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review, season two, episode three. I think it's called like the Burning
Windmill or Treadmill or something like that. I am the clown prints of Deep
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No, four through minutes. That's a solid that's a good episode.
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we'll talk about that later. And yeah, to the field, what did
you feel about episode three, season two. Well, I was very curious
that things are gonna kind of pick up after last week's episode, and I
mean with here we yet we get some interesting stuff kind of continuing with one
of our characters, one of the Targarians. Uh he he has an interesting
experience that unfolds and people are saying, oh, it's a foreshadow. It's
like, uh just kind of yeah, which what are you talking about?
You can drop the name of an On split Damon Damon. Well, there's
no Damon in the show. There's Damon Damon. That's it. Yeah,
it's both of them. They had a kid together, the combined okay Damon.
Yeah, So there's there's gonna be some interesting things going on with his
storyline as we progress there, and obviously some other tribulations that are unfolding at
dragon Stone. But the way that things kind of wrap up in this episode,
again, it's just it's just has you on your the edge of your
seat, and I'm excited to see how things are going to keep going after
what this episode delivered. But all in all, I think that there there's
some interesting new alliances that have forged, and then there's some very intense opposite
of alliance what would you call that? Like tensions already high, but then
there's there's things like this isn't a spoiler. We know that there's obviously a
lot of conflict over which houses think should be sitting on the throne and who's
the pretender and yeah yeah yeada, And so you have a little bit of
that fallout now where some of these houses are getting very agitated and they're with
each other. Escalation that's the word. Yeah, Yeah, that's the word
I'm looking for. Yeah, So there's a lot of escalation going throughout these
seven kingdoms in this episode, which I like, and I was not expecting
it. I got it got pretty heavy pretty fast. That's it. That's
it for non spoilers. Yeah, no, I agree with you where I
feel even though the end of season one was the war's coming, you know,
because obviously what happens at the end of season one, and I was
like, oh, this is it. It's happening. But I think we
saw in the last three episodes as far as they were striking back and war
was coming, but at the same point, there's still kind of a holding
off, like, let's is there other paths this, even if they are
assassinations, a truce, whatever it may be. And I think this episode
it's amonished by I think we all kind of know where we're going. It's
like it's the plants that war is the only option now you know, there's
kind of no going back. It's I think it's a final episode too.
Everybody's putting their flag pulls down and they go okay, And I'm saying,
of course there's probably some how so go back and forth for our main characters
we followed that's happening. But yeah, you got I'd say Damon and both
Aimon going on hit quite a venture in this episode. They're they're having experience.
Yeah, there has some experiences that are going to be long lasting.
Rania and I can't remember the the lady that owns the Brothels name, I
can't remember. But I feel like there's, like you said, you were
seeing new relationships strengthened, but then we're also seeing other relationships kind of weakened,
which is never what you want in war, right some I think like
Rania is handling with a class. She's making a decision a lot or a
few people don't like, but it's kind of a has to be done.
Where Agon is still, He's still where the wind blows him. You know,
he has a complete plan and then one person says something and that plans
gone. He's not like Otto said, he's not a great ruler. But
yeah, we and we met some new characters this episode. Like it's not
bigswa like Allison's brothers. It's like, okay, how does that play into
it? So this was like a I think the premie we are still the
best episode. We're only three episodes in, but I think this episode felt
like because we got that lot. We got the episode one which had the
assassination, the episode two we ended with the twins. This episode we didn't
have like a big and you know again mynsports, we didn't have like a
big I don't think death or fight or everything. That's why this really felt
like they call before the Storm, because it did feel like the last five
met sets up for there is no more going back for majority of these people.
The only way it's gonna be is prison or death. And obviously,
I think as viewers were like, hell yeah, but sad for the Crown
and all our main characters because more bloodshed's about to go down. So h
but yeah, no, I'm excited. We'll talk about this in spoilers.
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for that. So let's start with you. You were tumbling. Let's start
with Damon. So he's hey, I can't remember where it's at. It's
like Halbourne or harrow Borne, something like Heron Hall. I think it is
right there. You go, there's a hole in there, so he's there
clearly. I feel like he's trying to take this over to try and gain
some favor with Raniera. I feel like this is a Damon trait that he'll
screw up and then he'll try and do something big to try and gain some
sort of allies. I know they haven't said that yet because he's not speaking
and they've been asking like, oh, what's the plan after them they cut
away. I still think it's to gain some trust back with Nier in a
show. Oh this is what I could do for you. Even though he
screwed up big time. We got to see you know, million I'll clock
back, which I was kind of surprised. That's all we got some visions
going on. I was surprised that was the amount we got her. That's
why I didn't want to say anything because then you knew because you already knew
it. I was like, I don't want say anying because it's very short.
Well I'm glad you said that. Because I had heard the rumors this
weekend. I was expecting like a bigger scene, like you know, good
Verd to have her back. But they bring her back and her set bringing
the couchman. It's kind of like that's all you do. Like so I
liked it, but it was just felt like you could have just had adult
Nier do the same thing, you know, Like, I don't think there's
any meaning to us. I guess it's kind of showing, like, hey,
because the idea is that shows young were near and she's sewing the head
of the child. What was there? Jaharis that we lost a couple of
weeks ago, and I think it's trying to show that, okay, since
he's since she's being a young person, she's always had to cover for him.
But I don't know, I think she was there. You could have
done a little bit more. But then he wakes up and he's just at
this tree. He sees this woman with dark hair who says, you're gonna
die. Here, which at the beginning because when he walks into the council
and he sees her, they're like staring each other down. I'm like,
oh, damn's gonna fuck this girl. He's gonna be with her on That's
what I thought. But it seems like she's more like could be red witch
esque like Thrones. I'm not saying that exact thing and be the port,
but she seems like she's like can see visions, right, which doesn't mean
you have to be a witch, because it seems like Alison's daughter, like
she has visions, right, she sees things that happen. So yeah,
there's just some characters like a brand right where Brand like what he fell off
a tower and then he got super Yeah, like it just like happens,
right. So what did you feel about the whole dame and stuff. Well,
yeah, when when we saw young Raniera pop back in, that caught
me by surprise. I did not know the castings the paid out actors actress
list dropped, so that caught me off guard and I took it as Okay,
he's basically seeing two outcomes that are both were basically like clamors to his
throne. I guess when you look at it, Jaharis would have inherited the
thrown and then you have Raniera, who inherited the throne. It took his
claims basically, but also just these are these are both hurt people from his
hurt people related to him from his his actions, right, especially Raniera being
hurt because he killed Jeharis and Jaharris hurt because I was a complete accident,
and he's smiling about it at their round table. But now do you think
it is an accident or do you think he did say I thought that was
maybe a little confirmation that he did say if he can't get aim and get
somebody, maybe, but I won't believe it until they actually, like,
yeah, someone says that he says it out of his own mouth. But
I think you're right though, that there is there's obviously something going on with
that woman. The white tree the red leaves looks exactly like the one that
we saw in winter Fell, but it doesn't have the face on it.
I was looking for a face because it's just the treemate gave me that kind
of vibes. But yeah, it's it's it's interesting, and I think she
definitely has some kind of i'd say foreshadow, but it's it's not really a
foreshadow. It's just kind of like being told, like, yeah, you're
gonna die, So it's not really a foreshadow here die here. So that's
what's interesting. And I think that could be at any point in time.
I don't think he's gonna die. Well, yeah, I don't think he's
gonna He's not gonna bite at the bullet here when in the next episode.
I think that they could get this place repaired and they're gonna get the troops
in there, and then at some point war will come and then he'll he'll
die. He could be up on his his dragon, flying around up top
and then they gare just sit and bite him. Like I was gonna ask,
do you think he did, because like, oh see, all these
people die at some point, right, But like do you think he dies
by the enemy's hand or does he die by it were near his hand?
Because he's more trickery either, like he can't be trusted because I just don't
know with this vision. Is this a vision that gets him on the right
track to be like I gotta start sucking up, start, I gotta start
sucking up. I gotta saw it, mess it up like, I gotta
really like this is the person I'm with or is the power still gonna bug
him and he's gonna do more things like that, And I really don't know.
I don't have a read on it because I think we're in the middle
of it. He did look pretty emotion up set when she said you're gonna
die here, So I'm like I said, I would hope. My hope
is always for Damon and make like not a good guy turn, but just
to be loyal to Raniera. But he always shows moments where he's like willing
to stray out and maybe not. You know, he didn't say she should
be queen last week. All this stuff, Like, there's always moments where
he's like, I can't we trust him? So if I'm putting my money
down right now, I'm gonna say it's someone from Nier the good guy's camp
or I guess you know Team Black, depends if you are. But what
do you think right now? Yeah, I think that you could see Raniera.
I think you could see her being the one to do it. And
at the end of the day, I'd like to say that this will give
him the chance to change, but I just don't see it. I think
that that other episode, episode two, really cemented it where I think it's
UPISOD two many invest one Blurn together. Basically she was calling him out,
Yeah, it was episode two. She was calling him out basically for his
actions, and he just he didn't swear to her as being his queen right,
And then the whole time while he's here at heron Hall, he's like,
oh, it's not my prince, it's your grace. Like he's just
I don't know if he's really going to learn, and he's just he's stuck
on what was lost, even though he's trying to pretend like he's it's when
he gave up. Well, he wasn't Master of Tides, but he had
the crown because he went and fought those sea pirates and the crab king,
and then he gave the crown to Viseras at the time. And so he's
it's weird because on the inside he's got his own ulterior motive, but on
the outside he's he's doing what is the right thing. But you never really
get a proper read on him and what his his ankle is now obviously here
he knows heron Hall is huge. It's key to this war. He wants
to go to war. Raniera doesn't, and Riniera is turning to uh uh
nus or Rainus. We never know, never know how to say her name,
tar Irani Raina is targarium and she's I feel like I really am liking
her character because she doesn't want war, and she's just pointing out to Raniera
that you have all these other people that are around Allison for example, and
around you that are just saying we need to go to war. This is
that, this is that, But really it's it's it's escalated because of the
actions of others, is escalated because of your children, and it's just it's
it's unfortunate. I like how she calls things out too, like, oh
it are people one hundred years from now, are they gonna remember how it
started? Was it started with the eye taken out? Was it started with
you know, your son being killed? Does it start with the baby being
where? It doesn't matter? War is war and people are gonna people are
gonna pay the price for it. And so that's why I'm really liking her
character. I really really am. I was gonna say I agree with you,
but now don't you feel at this point, Ranier is all for war
because I feel like that's the thing where she was on that wavelength. But
now that Alison and I guess we can kind of transition to that. Allison
is fully realizing she might have been an idiot and like, why did you
listen to Visari's three am in the morning when he's like a fucking skeleton?
Like maybe that maybe you should just stayed the courts expect she goes as she
said, I said you would have been a great queen. So it's not
like and that makes this the character more interesting, right, But that's what
it's not like she hated Ranier and I was like, oh, this is
a like Vissarius is saying this, this is a chance to obsurper. Sure
I'm gonna do. It's like she at the end they kind of found some
common granite ground in season one and she said she'll be a great queen.
So now she's kind of realized that, eh. And she thought it was
a great scene because it was back and forth of one. I thought very
bold for Raniera to kneel down and pull a knife to start. It's not
a great conversational sir. Mean, Emily had to rewind it because I was
like, because I said, here, it's Vernier and she thought it was
Alison. I'm like, oh, that would make more sense to the fact
that Nya, she's just like fullst a knife. Oh no, don't worry.
What else is Alice supposed to do? Like she's seeing you you got
a knife press against her gut and you're telling, oh, don't worry,
it's fine. It's like no, Like I I'm with Allison on that one
that she should be freaking the fuck out. But I love the conversation where
went back and forth and she swore on her mom and Raniera was actually like,
that's what, Like it wasn't a fight. She was for about three
seconds believing her that Fyssaries did say to like did change his mind and wanted,
like you know, agone to be king and it to she cried.
And I think it's like she in that moment and good job on Emma Darcy,
she was realizing, like, man, this whole relationship having my father,
either he did change his mind or maybe he was just lying me the
whole time about wanting me to be queen. Right, So she has this
realization, but then Allison says one thing about the song of Fire of ice,
and then that's what's so great is we're Niera's reaction tips off Alison of
oh fuck, I read this wrong because it doesn't go like oh I like
that. Allison right away was like, oh you're lying. It was like
a oh why, like why does this mean so much to you? So
it was this realization of she tried to say face and be like no,
no, no, like this is what he wanted. But you could tell
Alison realize like, man, I completely fucked up here, So like before
you talk about that, that's what I was gonna say. I feel like
we're near now is gonna be all for war because there's no there's no other
way to go now. Because Allison won't even she's realized she's screwed up,
but she won't pull back. And even she says it's too late, like
she's talking about Cole and Sir Kiss, Sir Christ and all this stuff,
just saying like all he said in the Noswars, all the flags are planted.
So she's kind of just saying like even if I went and told egg
On, hey, I was wrong, he didn't want you to be King
egg Gone, Son's dead now, right, and it's too late. So
I think We'renier is going to go to war now. Well, yeah,
I mean the whole the theme of the show that they're alluding to a building
up. They're gonna go to war for sure. They're not gonna came in
in her now because Daman wants to go to war and now they'll be on
the same wavelength, right, I think he does. But and I think
that's where you're right. He needs to do he needs to do this to
win favor with Rinier. He needs to get Haron holl and that he can
come back and things will be guccy. But it depends you. You said
the other day when you're fucking bugs in here. You said the other day
when you were you were watching Game of Thrones and how you mentioned so many
characters like this is just the last time you'll ever see each other, and
then you have seven seasons later and yeah, they'll die and that's that,
And so I think we will. I haven't read the books. I don't
know the backstory, and like most heavy fans out there, for me,
this would be the last time Damon oversees ran Nera, I don't know.
So I'm hoping we see them again because it's it's it just seems a very
much more close, uh down to size than Game of Thrones does. Game
of Thrones had so many storylines and was really going everywhere. In this,
you just have your Rania and your Amen, your Damon, and well Auto
wasn't in this. He got replaced. Yeah, yeah, but it really
really depends. I think we're gonna get warm. Absolutely. I'm hoping Damon
comes back and presents Haron Hall as being properly like a part of the Granera's
claim and then they can fix it up because that place is an absolute ship
hole right now. And they gave it up really easy. Yeah it yours.
Yeah, they had one guard on duty. Yeah, David took out
with two punches. That was it. And then I guess, yes,
maybe that's the reason why it is because, like you said, it is
kind of Downtroden. But they did reveal that the person of their house that
has, you know, bend the knee to egg on, they don't associate
that person. So that's what's interesting. It's like, so you have I
can't remember what house it was, right because is this a was he a
Birafian? This guy no, And I kind of felt that because the guy
that the lord of this is a Tully right, because the guy he was
talking about though in this episode, the guy that was like the hand of
the King, I don't know if you remember, and then the guy that
was actual were near his first like baby Daddy. They were Barrafian, so
I guess they have like some sort of like Valerian uh Targarian thing where their
houses are connected in certain ways, like through marriages and everything. But so
he was talking about Birathians that were killed, So I find that interesting,
and that's why I like where you have somebody that might be a monarch of
a household or a port name and they bend the need to egg on,
but then the rest of fans like, well, they don't really support us.
But then in the Kingdom, almost on paper, it's it's like if
Taylor went somewhere and he like bend the knee and they're like, oh,
geek First, like we have geek first with us, but then Taylor,
Travis and Dylan we're like, well, no, we don't Agreeaya might say
geek First is supporting you, but us as like this community. No,
So that's that's what I liked about that, It's like, yeah, he's
doing that, but we don't really associate with him, like he's like lows
of the low. So yeah, I think they'll fix it up like the
top about the coin, like you said, I think will be a good
place for soldiers. I think he will go back to Verniera. I think
like pin ultimate episode, because I think Matt Smith said something about like he
didn't have many scenes with Emma Darcy, so I feel that maybe pin ultimate
episode, you'll come back, and I think he'll win over Raniera one more
time, and this will be the last chance, and this will be either
I don't think we'll know to the end of season the tipping point. We
might not even know till after the end of the season, be honest,
but I think this will be last time to show. Okay, is he
fully with her, which could happen because if she's all for war, then
they're aligned, right or is this her saying you got one more chance and
then in the next season or two he screws up again and then they go
back to this conversation of like I gave you the last chance and you fucked
it up again, Because I said, I know in the show, they're
not. I don't think he's ever gonna try to take the crown or something
from her. I don't think it's that far. But I think he'll do
things that are you know, but who knows. So I never know.
David's killed one was wise before. So maybe if we jumped five years and
David's just and Rnier are so a part that he like finds something that accidentally
gets rid of, you never know what dand it's it's just he's He's done
this consistently. Remember in season one when he was the Lord Commander the Gold
Cloaks and he went on to the city. I was just killing innocent people,
and what did the Sarah's do. Visara's just covered up for him,
And now what has he done here? He's doing the same thing. And
yeah, because then he went out and got him that crown because everyone I
don't know if you remember, but he had that and people thought that he
was trying to obsert Visarias because he was called himself the King of the Sea
or whatever, the king whatever that place was with the crab people. And
then, like you said earlier, he came back and gave his crown.
So I think it's the same thing happening again. But again, I wouldn't
say that. There's not one season where he does fully go that route where
we think, oh, he's doing this again, and that's oh no,
he's actually doing something bad, you know, because you never you never know
what Damon. That's what I like him. He's a wild card character.
I'm rooting for him to be with for near because I don't want to be
bad. But like again, when I watched season one, I'm like,
man, this guy like almost every third episode does something We're like, oh
fuck, Damon, Like I can't support you here. So yeah, what
did you think about Alison and Ranier's conversation here? Raniera very very bold move
to sneak in there. I was not for this, Like obviously it's the
show. I didn't think she's gonna die, But in real life I'd be
like, this ain't gonna happen. But she got there, Like I said,
she had that knife. What did you think about Ranier? Maybe explain
Allison that she might have she might have misunderstood a thing or two. I'm
just gonna pop in. This is the Telly if you if you remember him,
just put a face to the house Telly from Game of Thrones, No,
I don't. He's the guy below, the younger guy, the young
guy. Yeah, so that's his father. And he's also the uncle of
auh ned Stark's wife, right right, that's kind of her house. Yes,
yeah, and I say her name then right when she's should be.
And then his daughter was I think though of the veil. So that's why
they kind of got those leaders anyways. Yeah, No, that's good to
know. Look out for him and rewatch there these little bugs. Eh got
some fruit there or something. I don't know, maybe, so we got
Yeah, we got this conversation, and it's a it's I totally agree.
It's absolutely bold to be sneaking into the castle when you're I mean, you're
already sending people to go and assassinate there to Yeah. I had a very
much like a shame shame look to her. Yeah, you know, it's
it's interesting and I feel like it's it is humorous too, because the whole
thing is is it does come down to just miscommunication, and I am I
am confused because even when she was prior to this conversation with Alison, when
she was saying goodbye to her children, there's like four kids. Here's like,
I don't know who all the fathers are anymore. I know Damon is
the father of some of them, and I saw all the ones with brown
hair. That's why. So in this episode when that Tully guy was talking
about I think he said his nephew, he was a Birathian and he was
the hand at one point for Sarah's kicked out Auto because Auto claimed there's some
stuff going on with Damn. Yeah, so kicked him out. A Barrathian
was Vissara's hand for a while. That Brathian son was like her or Nia's
protector. But remember that he's the father of all the brown haired kids because
they were sleeping when when Rainier was supposed to be married to uh yeah,
the Valerian. Yeah, but he was having a good time with all gentlemen,
so he wasn't you know, they were really getting on. So because
Emily said the same thing, She's like, isn't colder? Following no,
so, and then what happened was someone claim made a bastard claim. So
the hand and his son, I can't remember. I think his name was
Strong because sometimes they throw Strong at the kid's name is like an insult.
They the brathy was like, we gotta get deaf at here, like you're
not you're probably dead, and then that's what happened. The foot guy had
them all like killed and burned. So that's what it was. So her
husband whatever, the lover was dead and that's who's the father. So the
guy was like her protector. He's killed. And then the blonde hair kids
are Damon, hers kids, and then all the girls with the dread that
are Laren. That's Damon and his former wife that she killed stepdaughters. Yeah,
she was gonna die in birth, so she just had her dragon burn
her, right, and then Amon took her dragon. I don't if you
remember. That was a big thing I remember took. So that's the lineage
of the people there. Oh my goodness. So I'm glad you're on top
of all that. I rewatched though. I'm glad I rewatched it because if
not, there's just so much stuff. But yeah, what do you think
Alison goes from here now? Realizing that man, she she made some bad
calls. Perhaps, what do you think's next for her? Oh? Well,
she doesn't have many people she can lean on right now, and that's
that's the thing because well, and that's just it. Like I feel like
when she when when these sorts of revelations happened, like even when the previous
episode, she's like, you know, father, like I I sinned whatnot?
And I was like, I don't want to hear of your sins and
such and he's gone. So I think Auto was the biggest pillar that was
there for her, you know, weird, really fucked up way. So
I don't know what's next for her. Guy foot guy, that's all yeah,
master of whispers. Although no he foot Guy's busy with with amen now
because am is like my egang, yeah right feet soon. You know.
That's exactly That's what confused me because I thought we had multiple Eggons because we're
near and named one of her children agon did she does? And that's what
was odd. I thought that was going to be the tip point. When
Alison was talking about, like you said, egg On, I thought she
was gonna be like, I have a son named Eggon. He could have
been talking about my son, right, she could have made that claim,
would I would have been fitting? Yeah, But she obviously went back to
Okay, he was telling her the story of egg On the conquer with fire
and ice, so that's how that came out. But yeah, they both
she they both have an egg on to name it out for the conquer They
both tried to like gain favor from Visarias and her two children are the egg
on the one with Damon our egg on and Visaris. That's like Vissarius the
second or something, so, which I didn't know Danari's brother. He's Vissaria's
the third when I'm rewatching Game of Thrones right now. He's the one that
was like, still let me release the dragon like and would rape her.
Yeah, and he gets the crown and everything like that, right, So
he's Vasaria's the third. And also the eggs in this episode the crayers come
from those. There's four eggs, but some of those eggs are the eggs
that Danarius get, so oh that's pretty cool. Yeah, there you go,
which means they cook for a long time there. But yeah, they
said, I can't I can't remember what her name was, the youngest of
Damon's girls. It was a Rainar, right, I think it's Rainar.
So she's now been told that she like it's for their own good, but
they think or could potentially start out so she's been sent with all the kids
to like some place it's like the Valerian kind of owned area. So she's
been sent with Damon's kids. When we're near his kids some dragons and then
off sly some guards and stuff like that, and she was not really for
it. It's interesting though, because I know she's pissed, but at the
same time, ver near and them doing a good point that I guess she
hasn't taken on a dragon yet, So it is kind of a thing like
other than being here with the main people and obviously the people that you love,
your sister, your father, it's like she's not really much help to
them, right, other than what right she's doing now is go watch the
kids. And she even says, which is a kind of heartbreaking line,
like go be the mother to them that I can't be, which, like
we've trough about you just probably gave the thrones. It's like this would the
last timmer near sees his kids. We don't know. She could die and
they're gonna go up with Rainar as her mom, right, So that's what
it's like. It's a very interesting and kind of sad route. And even
her sister, which was the older sister was like completely like on her near
a side, like oh sorry, like I'm gonna miss you, but you
gotta go, you know. So I'm wondering, do you think we get
more development with them and the babes or you think that's just a way to
write them off for a while and we'll check back later on. I think
they're red and off. I mean we barely got we did. We only
got like back of the headshots of these kids. We have no story like
progression with them at all as far as I'm concerned. They're They're just there.
So we'll meet them in five years when they're like aim and they get
fucking super tall and yah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, I agree.
I think you might get a couple of check ins with a Rayner because she
is like she was a character that was in season one and she's I think
they've given her a bit of screen time in the storyline of her being a
little sad and upset. Like if you want to write them off, why
wouldn't she just like take it as like, Oh, this is my job,
my honor, I'll go do it. So I'm not sure we'll check
on her. Maybe she'll do something controversial like maybe she'll leave the babes like
all the kids, and that'll be like a w like your job was to
stay there. So we'll see. I'm not saying they're all gonna die,
but we'll see there. And well you have too, like she was supposed
to be betrothed to Lasarus, right, Valerian theseras, No, yeah,
wasn't she betrothed to him? And then the older sibling was betrothed, the
one that got aided by the dragon, right yeah yeah trove Less Yeah,
yeah, so I get another reason to kind of you know, she has
no importance here anymore, so send her away until they find like another husband
or suitor for something like that. But yeah, so we'll see what happens
there. And I agree with you with Allison. I think she's gonna get
desperate. I don't think they're gonna go the route of her becoming a drunk,
but whatever the non alcoholic equivalent to that is is. I don't know,
Like, I feel like she's gone through all this stuff now she's realized
that it might have been for nothing, or at least mistaken her daughter,
which I think was a big thing for gay for which kind of meant that
in indirect way of the daughter saying that she blamed Allison for this happening,
and yeah, absolutely, yeah the daughter's saying, she's saying forgiveness and oh,
being sad is not worth anything. I have to move on, you
know, Babe's diye all the time, which it was that was the thing
she was saying, like, well, out there all those towns, people
like they're losing kids way more than me. So again, out of all
the people in this show, she's like she's semi weird, but she like
gets it the most when she's like, well we still have it pretty good.
But that I think for Allison was a big moment for her daughter to
kind of reveal that, yeah, she put that the death of her son
on her. So I said, I only Allison's gonna become a drunk,
but and she's gonna go to a dark place. Down before, I think
she was like kind of hiding behind Sir Christen Cole there, like getting on
with him just a way to kind of like, ah, like that'll pass
the time and like takes her mind off things. But now when it's not,
it's like what does she do? I really I really don't know,
And that's where I think that, And she's not gonna be a person that
tells them to stop the war. So I'm really interested to see her character
responds and continues forward. In that same vein, we had Agon who decided
they made this plan where they're gonna gon reunite some houses or just get some
houses. They were gonna take a dragon. But now, Sir Kristen Cole,
who looks stressed as fuck at the end this episode, now is the
hand he has? What do you think about the hand? He doesn't have
the pin. He has like a like a hand necklace on his armor,
which that's pretty cool. Yeah, he's got he's got nice, nice digs.
I like his his armor and his get up. No, that was
cool as damon. So that the dragon helmet with those big shoulders, Yeah
that's cool stuff. But so Cole, he's a little stressed, but he
says, hey, don't send the dragons because we need to protect that.
They need to stay here, and if we bring in the dragon, they'll
bring the dragon. Cole wouldn't know, you know, a couple of days
later to Strake, he'd be being chased by a dragon. But nonetheless,
I actually did think Okay, Cole's actually making a good point here. And
then they were gonna say Aimond was gonna go, but he didn't end up
going. He wasn't with Cole and all of them, right, And I
thought they talked about him going because cold. I think he was like Cole
was like, oh, we set up camp back there, like that's where
we're staying. But the High Tower. Brother, He's like, no,
we're going to the end where they got the ladies and the food and stuff.
And Cole's like, get back there, like and so I think that's
it. Yeah, And that's interesting where Allison's brother, I don't know.
I don't know if it's just him and Cole don't like each other. I
don't know if Allison sent him there to kind of steer things in a way
Allison would want. But already, uh not not good vibes coming from Cole
and Allison's brother. But so they went Agon was gonna go. He told
everyone, no, I'm gonna go. I wanna be a king at Da
Da Da Da. They even give him the Conqueror's armory. He's all said
he's gonna take his dragon. And then you know foot guy, which one
time I'll remember his actual name, but I'll call him Master Whispers. Foot
guy kind of sounds you know the meaning. But so the Master Whispers comes
there, which I like. The Guard's like, oh, why would you
like to speak the king? Oh, I don't know. Maybe none of
us want him to get fucking torn into pieces. And the guards are idiots
though, right, because like they are all the new new chaps that here.
Yeah, and they dis agree, they go which every way. Agon
says, and then he makes a point of just saying which was not true,
but he that's where it's like Vissari's was like he had his faults,
but that's where he was right where Agon says, my father said there was
no value in a Master of Whispers, but I'm finding myself that I need
one. But this guy lied to him. He said, Oh, well,
people think that when you're gone. Allison's just she wants to happen so
she could take control and be a leader. Yeah. At no point in
this episode has Alison said that. I would say Alison and Amon are the
furthest they've apart they've ever been as far as being on the same pathway,
Like, she blames him for the star of this war. There's still really
haven't talked, which I'm kind of waiting for in the season. Still,
I want them to have a conversation because I feel like there's a lot of
good stuff there to be thrown. And yeah, he convinces him not to
go because he doesn't want to be your sirt. But well he's got like
Amon's got mommy issues because he's he's out there, haven't He's telling everything he
should be like Allison too, this this other prostitute lady of the night,
and Agon has dad issues because he keeps going back to Sara's. So he's
talked to Vasarius. But yeah, so again he doesn't go. I'm still
surprised the Master Whispers was not the Hand, So I'm very curious what his
new endgame is now, right because because it didn't seem like he was bothered,
he didn't bring that up of like, oh, I would have been
a better to know. He's still just doing his things. And maybe that's
the thing with this guy. Maybe he wouldn't want to be the Hand because
he couldn't be the Master Whispers anymore, right, Maybe he couldn't like move
slyly around the territory. So that's true. Yeah, So I'm curious now
what he's gonna be up to coming up, because we don't really know.
He's just he's still getting egg on his favor and I don't know. I
don't know if it's gonna be like he wants to be fucking betrothed Allisons.
Yeah, and he'll pitch it of like oh, I can watch your mother
makes you get strong. I don't know. Like he definitely has an endgame,
we just don't know what it is yet. Do you think if it's
not the hand, like, do you have any theories of what the Master
Whispers would want? Because he keeps helping it on a good pair of feet,
he wants a room full of make me pair of your best wooden feet.
Yeah, so, I mean that's a question. I'm not exactly sure.
He seemed like caught off guard and really genuinely not sentimental but sincere when
Agon asked him be the Master Whispers, because he looked like he was caught
off guard for sure, and he was super on board with it and honored.
So I don't even know if that was part of his plan. I
think his plan was well I don't know his plan, but at this time,
what we know about his plan is that he did not want the king
to go and to die, and I think that comes to the level of
degree. I think that he has control over Agon where others maybe don't.
He would he wouldn't have control over Aim and I don't think so. It's
definitely not like I legitimately think his him being there was valid, Like I
think he was being there to talk him out of going because I think he
did think he would die, and if he dies, Amy would be up
there, and I think he sees h even agg on with his issues.
I don't think he would be able to. I think Agon would be,
uh a pretty strong king. He's gonna do that shit in the brothel still,
like he sometimes haves some Mopi moments, But I don't think the Master
whispers would turn him into a certain way. You know. Yeah, No,
he wouldn't be able to. I mean, he's definitely he's up there
in his own weird way with Damon, and I think that definitely scares people.
I mean, no one's really confronting him. He's off, he's doing
his own things and whatnot. Well, he definitely has that degree of respect.
He's much more online with Kristin Cole, and he doesn't want Agon to
go out and to combat either. I think everyone just wants Agon just to
go to the bars and get drunk. I think Amen did want him to
go out. I think he was trying to be some I think he was
trying to do some reverse psychology because I think he knows now what, there
being no male suitor or male king right as far as Jaharris is dead,
his son, So if Agon were to die, it would go to Aimond.
So that's right the way Aimon, he just looks like, yes,
brother, I think you should go to battle. Like I can't trust him,
I can't try as that fucker at all. Like there's no way he
thinks his brother is gonna win him battle, Like that's what I was thinking
en of that. No, he's out to something he want. I think
that's where because other than him killing, we're near his son. He's not
made a mistake, and he's always a yes man. He'll always go with
the flow. He'll put his opinion out there, but he won't fight for
it. That's why I think he's kind of working in the shadows a little
bit here, and he wants I think he wants something bad to happen to
Egg and I think he's especially after this if there was not a case before.
Man, what a terrible brother. So we get this scene where some
of the Night's Guard or the night whatever the yeah, the Night's Guard.
Right, there's a new recruit joining, like, oh, taken on the
brothel has been with a woman, which was odd because like A's like you've
you've been sworn to celibacy or whatever, and they all laugh and then they
stare at him and then like yes, you're sorry. But then they still
go to the brothel to do it anyway, So it was odd. I
thought it was like, oh, he's again showing you know, oh he's
he does want to be an honorable king. But he's still like nah,
let's go fuck some women together. So it was like all right again like
wherever the wind blows. But I did appreciate again he gets to this bar
and brothel. He buys around for everybody, so again like he's always supporting
the people. He's not the greatest, but good. I'd like that kid,
you know, that's nice. And then so he has this group of
men, like I said, they have this new one he so I'm like,
oh, yeah, I got some places you go and get wet there.
I don't even think in Game of Thrones we've seen some sex. There's
just a full unsimulated blowjob going on. I don't recall that happening. No,
never, never, And I mean that was definitely a fake cock if
I've ever seen it. Oh yeah, well, or that guy's just hard,
like that's the hardest cock scene. It was not moving, but still
it was like that was fucking like, what was the right rabbit stuff?
There's a movie back in the day that did that. But yeah, so
that was happening. And then they get to the room and it's just like,
oh man, you got amin who's fucking croll up as a ball again
in his you know, baby Baltimore stance. And then they're like, oh,
you know, you tell your sourels this woman, and you know,
usually you would think that, you know, he's laying there, he's had
time with this lady, and it just seems like, yeah, he goes
to brawl for this one lady that he trusts tells his soros was first and
he's never been with another, right, Yeah, which is interesting because it's
like it's an older woman and not anything's wrong, but it's just like it
is almost someone that's like in a weird motherly figure. And we talked about
al ray Amon has some mommy issues, so that's that's what's odd. It's
like a Homelander thing going on, where it's like, why are you trying
to fund someone that's like your mom? But I digress. So you think
that the brother and his crew and maybe, ah, my brother's busy,
I'm gonna go on, but no, he takes Eggon, makes a point
to say, well, you know she's gonna be busy now, and just
insinuating this woman is gonna have to have sex with maybe Eggon and all these
men, and it he did in such a sliwitch, which this is why
I love all the guards. They're not laughing at all. They're fucking stoic.
They're like, oh man, Eggon's screwing up so bad. And then
Amon just stands up All's glory tall Mark and this guy fucking he's fucking tall
man. He's a large individual. Yeah, cock out, and just like
he says something like, oh that's un great. I'm sure your kings men
deserved that, and then he just walks off. He walks to the baffle
brothel, just didn't get his close. He's just butt ass naked with his
eye out. I walked back, but he's out there, and yeah,
he just pips off. So again, he didn't he looked at it.
He didn't look anger acted. He looked embarrassed. He looked like humiliated in
this moment. But he owned it. He owned it, and then he
walks. That's why I said, with him wanting hang On to go to
battle, he could have got mad, he could have argued with him,
but he didn't. He just sucked up. And when I think that Aimin
is scheming, even if the scheme fails, I think he even more so
now is like fucked Eggon, Like I hate this fucking little ship it because
it's a bigger ship. He's his older brother. But uh yeah, we'll
get Tao's thoughts after this next ad break and we're back. So yeah,
what do you think about that scene? And then when you think about the
future of a Aimin and his trajectory, because like we're all waiting to fight
Damon, but until then he has to do something. And yeah, it
I was not expecting this, this whole sequence here, and yeah, the
brothel the fake cock and the blow jumbs and all this stuff, and he's
just opening up every curtain and every curtain you got more crazy stuff going on.
And sure enough, I thought, oh, we are going to get
aimed here. It totally fits, And sure enough, there he was.
Yeah, he just cock and all. He was just owning that, and
even though he had you said it, he wasn embarrassed. But he definitely
he definitely has something up his sleeves that he was not wearing at the time,
but he's got metaphorical sleeves. So I'm curious to see what he's gonna
pull and what he's gonna do. The thing here that intrigues me, though,
is the sequence at the bar before this, because we get introduced to
a new character who says that I am actually like Vicerrus and Damon's bastard brother.
Yeah, and he's he announces what did he say? Like he says
like my nephew like Laserus being murdered or whatever, and then he spouts off
or his friends like oh your other nephew, hey, goon, and he
turns there and walking and it's like, oh shit, so like very bold
just to be saying that's like what is his goal? Sing it to these
two other people at this bar. But uh, yeah, Like I'm very
curious about this character. Again, I don't I don't know the story with
the books and whatnot, so I don't know how this character actually fits.
But does that Like he's a bastard, so he doesn't technically have claim to
the throw and he would need someone of the house to actually like decree him
or declare him to be a Targarian descent again kind of like what we've seen
that with Danaris did that to the Barrathian boy, the smithy I can't er
his first name, but basically gave him his his birthright, his name right
to be Brathian. Yeah, so yeah, I'm just I don't know's gonna
happen here with this guy. Like I don't know, I don't see any
of the Targarians being like, yeah, we should give him that birthright name.
I was curious how this was gonna go because I wasn't sure it was
just a slice of life of this guy actually making up and we never like
go back to it, right, It's just something like oh, yeah,
I'm I'm a brother, but like what, I don't know what say it
would have because even then it's like because like Vesara's named his successor and it
was Ranier, right, And even if he were to Dine didn't name it,
it would have went to Damon because Damon has like the full bloodline,
right. So so I really don't know. I thought was gonna happen.
He was just gonna go up to Eggon say some shit and then that'd be
that'd be it. Maybe he get killed or beat up for it. So
I don't know the fact that the character isn't that brothel we keep returning to.
Maybe we'll see him again, but I really don't know what the meaning
of it is. Like I said, I don't think it will be,
but I could see it even being just a slice of life and just somebody.
But like, I don't know what he would do. Maybe it'd be
something like he over. Maybe the only thing is that, and I still
think he's gonna die. Maybe he overhears Aimon talking with this lady about the
potential of overthrowing Eggon or killing it like something like that, and he goes
to Eggon with the story of hey, I'm related to your fault, like
I'm your uncle one and two I got information what Amon's gonna do there so
could be something like that. Again, then I think Agon would just kill
him right after. I don't think he's gonna be like Raniera, where she's
gonna keep that lady who ran the brothels like. I don't think Aggon's that
time for the most part, Like he does have some loyalty, like you
said, the master whispers if you do enough, so maybe he would keep
him around. But again, wherever that wind's blown, that's where Agon goes.
Yeah. I was gonna say, do you have any simple damon coming
back? Do you have any romantic vibes with Rania and the lady that runs
a brothel house. I didn't get any. It seemed pretty Oh what's the
term? Uh not placebo? Uh platonic platonic, Thank you placebo. I
have a polacebo relationship with them, don't you dare say any? Yeah,
I think there's just they I think they respect each other. And I think
the leader of the the whorehouse, she definitely puts the whorehouse, yet they
brought the whorehouse she she puts for nearer a strong light simply because of the
differences. And I think if this woman could have been at King's Ending,
and actually maybe she she does know, but could have seen how Eggon had
all the ratcatcher situation. That immediately like it's night and day difference between Raniera
and egg On at this point in terms of leaders, and she's all for
the small folk, and so I think that that that's that's it's explains itself.
Those rat catchers still hanging up there too, They're still hanging up there.
Yeah, stink to around there. There's a bunch of dead bodies and
crows. But yeah, we'll see. I saw a couple of people saying
that, and I thought last week and I can't remember, there's some line
I should wrote down that one of them said, and it was just there's
just some like stuff going on there. So I liked. At one point
I thought, both Rinier and Damon, we're gonna be hooking up with other
people, which is always a possibility. But we'll see. I don't have
much add on the Sea Urpen or the Sea Shirt whatever they call it.
Sea Sneak always give him ten different names, but yeah, I don't know.
It's just like rain As comes home says new Master tides make this person
that, Yeah, like we gotta side this and he's like, well,
we got time. She's like, wellver war and he's like whatever, and
he takes I'm a good sailor and he leaves and he takes some food.
Lease. It's like, oh, like it's it's strange, Like they did
this in season one too, where he was completely obsessed with trying to get
his someone from his bloodline on the throne, and that's where event she was
going to happen, right, And it's like an episode the penultimate or the
finale last year where she finally talked about she was like, your whole search
for hower, like in her mind right, her son's dead, even though
he like like faked his death. But it's like, it's cost as our
children. It's gonna cost us our grand children. You've done this. And
then he finally was like even though they're in the position, he said,
Okay, you're right. I was wrong. We should have never gone to
the crown. We should have just been happy with what we have, right.
And then now I just feel like he's being kind of bullheaded again.
Like it proved last season of Rainus is the most like headstrong person there next
to maybe the daughter of Alice. And like maybe you should trust her and
the fact that they are going to war. He's like, yeah, we'll
figure out. We should get there, like, no, we should name
our granddaughter that's for sure related by blood. That's the one that is like
Damon and the other one. It's like, let's name her the rightful error,
right because that husband died, So give her the clay the queens,
and then if she has children of her own, they can be that right,
because I think right now they're just saying that one of the little kids
that they sent off with there is gonna be the the dragon stone person,
one of the what do you call them, the strong strong strong? Yeah,
I guess, right, yeah, I guess because technically it is supposed
to be that that's their son's son, but it's not right. And that's
where Verniers is like our rain is like yeah, like let's give it to
our for sure granddaughter and go from there. So yeah, I don't know.
I still me and Emily said that we talked about a couple weeks.
While you mean I talk about Kirkland. I'm still it's like the Boys,
where if I rank storylines, there's one that I'm it's not I'm not interested
in it, but it's definite at the bottom and this is it right here
where it's just I feel like it's the character doing the same things again,
being very naive and they're just not giving us any clearance, like they're just
working on boats. It's like, all right, cool, because she says
like, Overnaro need you soon, like please get him to dragon Stone.
But you have some of his subordinates too that are talking about like, oh,
we need to make a deal, so the see snake needs your help.
We can get rich from this, Like there's a weird in the background
storyline going here, but we're not getting enough time. Yes, I agree,
be with it. Yeah, so maybe there'll be an episode where we
get a bunch more, but this was not this episode. And I don't
know. He's an idiot. He like she shouldn't let this man a long
time ago. He's always just like for a guy that wanted power man,
he would not have been good with it. So the other thing we made
to talk about is that battle of the beginning that was fun, you know,
like the two sides, which again I really liked. In the middle
episode, they're like, oh, why are they fighting to raise the point
like we don't know anymore, because it sound like Dane was gonna try and
throw like a truce between the two, like whether they are house. Yeah,
houses, And it's like the war between these houses have gone on for
so long. One the claim of the throne, which just usually excuse for
them to fight more. And two no one can tell you why the fights
start anymore. Why do these houses hate each other? They just do.
And that's where it's like literally what they're tumbel the Mill's episode, like that
would happen with the High Towers and the Targarians, right, I just it's
gonna start. But then in five years from now, is anyone gonna really
know? Why is it worth the bloodshed? But h I think that was
good to see the escalation from being five guys to just that kind of the
guy with the sword and store and then they pan out. It's like hundreds
dead. It's like cock Man not to and Agon's like, oh, well,
we've went to war and we won that battle, and that lasser guy's
like there's many casualties on all sides, and it was like it doesn't matter.
Like again, it's like these guys do not think he's a rightful king,
But I like that it was a good showing again of the escalation.
Yeah, no, I I agree, I think pardon me, the action.
I mean, we didn't even need the action. It was just the
the the level of intensity from this. And yeah, it just goes to
show that fallout of just how things escalate. And you have a couple of
guys and they're not even nights, they're just talking shit to each other,
and then it just blows up into tons and tons, hundreds of men dead
and this wind fill windmill on fire. Yeah. I think that's what it
was called Battle the Windmill or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, And
so this is obviously the area of the riverlands. That's the huge pinpoint of
interest between between the two houses here, the two Tigerian families. So yeah,
it's it's rough. It's so funny, like it's because I'm watching him
of Thrones, but it's just like back to the flaring guy. It's just
so weird that what's his name, like one of the brath It's like how
much the war has changed, like when the Brathians and with dragon Stone.
So this thing that they think is gonna be you boy, So it's your
fucking don't get me. I forgot about that. I'm mad at you for
I'll give you clarity. So I'm gonna one star with you. For inside
jokes, we many years ago used to do Facebook polls like a fun community,
and we'd be like, hey, here's you know, thirty Marvel characters,
vote on which one's your favorite. And we did that Game of Thrones
and a Stannis fan group found it and they just spam to make Stannis win
and everyone's like, what the fuck? Like, but it was just like,
and I'm sharing to other groups, like Stantus has to win this because
like, oh it's his rightful claims. Oh my god. So yeah,
it's just crazy that Stantus like ends up with dagon Stone. It's like,
that makes no sense to me. So it shows how bad the Valerians and
the Targarians just get fucked in the next one hundred years of like whatever this
happens with this war. It really doesn't vote well for any of them.
So is there any other character any person we have talked so well? I
just want to highlight once more on the High Tower Brother Alison. Having him
out there is interesting, but he he seemed at first with his introduction pretty
confident, and I like that he was very much just focused on Coal and
not trusting of him and just trying to call out his bullshit. But then
it just it just went sideways for how I felt about him, because he
just seemed like, Oh, this adolescent idiot because they're out in the open
and the dragon comes and dragon almost kills them. Man, And when they're
in the tree line, he's like hyperventilating, like like freaking the fuck out,
and Coles super chill axe about it. But I don't think he's gonna
last long at all. Oh, I don't know, because it's just like
they introduced some men. Obviously, Game of Thrones is known for that interesting
people and killing them right away. But oh, I don't know where you
could be right, I'm fifty. I need to see what happens with him
next week, because he could just be like a common annoyance for Coal for
a while. But you think Cole will kill him, because I honestly thought
the dragon was gonna kill him in this. I don't think. I don't
think he'll kill him knowing it's Allison's brother, unless it's like a fucking Shane
Otis situation from walking dead where no one's around, and Cole's like, oh,
he couldn't make it. He lost his legs, Like he just cuts
his legs. So I don't think so yet, but give it an episode
two. Maybe I could be with you and we'll see what happens. So
m hmm, anything else I don't think there is is okay, So next
week. I think next week will be our first episode with all three of
us together right now, So yeah, finally after three episodes, Kirklan should
be back. He returns tomorrow, so he should be on that so we'll
get his thoughts about last or this week, and we'll see what's going on
in the West Rosst world. So thank you very much for tuning in.
Like I said, next week should be back to regular time on the release
dates, so check out that and all the other stuff. Thank you very
much for listening. Happy candidate for all his Canadians out there, and happy
in Bensie for your Americans coming up, and when you hear from us next
week, it will not be boring. Goodbye,