It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine
day. Now here's Nick Coffee. I believe we've known the dates, and
I mean we've known the Louisville I mean all college football schedules, I feel
like have been have been public, you know, for a little while now.
But we're slowly and surely starting to get time television, network and whatnot.
And Louisville will play Notre Dame on September the twenty eighth at Notre Dame,
big game once again. Notre Dame expected to be a pretty good team,
and it'll be on Peacock And I'm just thinking ahead here as far as
how many people are gonna wait till three third on Saturday, September twenty eighth,
then realize, wait a second, the game's not on TV. It
has gotten better. I mean I think even like three four years ago,
if you let someone know that, yes, you can watch the game on
your television, but like you need, it's going to be a stream thing.
It's going to be on ESPN. Plus, it's going to be on
I think I used to call it ESPN three. I mean you thought it
meant people had to go out and get a you know, a degree in
like technology of some sorts to figure that out. And now I think everybody
realizes it's really not that difficult, and honestly, I don't think it's that
inconvenient. But what do I know. I've had a Roku. I feel,
I don't want to say I was like ahead of the curve. But
when we moved, and I think it was two thousand and seventeen, maybe
that was when I had direct TV, and I love DirecTV, paid a
lot of money for it, and it was, you know, an expense
that you know, I felt like, hey, I could we can't not
have. I used to be scared to death of relying on the Internet to
watch TV because I guess I was an old fart thinking well, that'll never
work. And now that's how most people consume content on television. So I
thought to myself, Okay, look either way, I want to get out
of this direct TV thing, and I'll try YouTube TV with a Roku and
give it a shot, and if not, I'll just go back to direct
TV as a new customer and probably get a cheaper rate. So I gave
it a shot, and that's what I've done ever since. So started with
YouTube TV and they had a really good initial price. Now it's become more
expensive, but it's still worth it. And so for me, like I've
had basically my television as it's like my phone. There's apps there, right,
You've got YouTube TV, you've got ESPN, you've got Hulu, Netflix,
Hbo. So it's become the norm for me. So when I think
of a game being on Peacock, like I watched some Big Ten basketball this
year on Peacock, and I don't like, I'm not thinking, oh wow,
got to go out of my way to go find the game. Same
thing with Amazon Prime when they had Thursday Night Football last year. So I'm
sure there are still some people that use a direct TV, a dish or
maybe even a spectrum. But a lot of TVs are smart TVs now.
I mean, in fact, are all new TVs smart TVs? I don't
know. I mean, is that a dumb question? I'm not sure.
I mean, I know you can still have a TV that is not you
know, a smart TV that has Internet capability and Wi Fi and all that,
but I feel like if you're manufacturing TVs now in twenty twenty four,
I feel like it would you know, for example, the TV that is
in our living room, it is a smart TV. We don't use it
that way. We just connect the Roku because it's easier. But at some
point it will no longer be a thing to where people are like, well,
I gotta go wear it, de fond it because I mean Peacock,
I don't know what does it cost per month? Let's see here. I'm
sure question because I feel like, I know, you say a lot of
people mooch off of your alls stuff, but we mooch off of somebody else's
peacock. That sounds dirty, but it is what you mean, you mooching
off somebody's peacock. John, don't your parents listen to this show? Son?
They do? Shout out to my mother, so my father. So
you can get Peacock premium with ads at five to nine and out a month,
and you also get some good content on there too. Peacock's not one
of my favorite streaming services, but I don't know. I mean, everybody
is different as far as what they want to spend money on. But I
already have these serve I already have these streaming services, at least most of
them, just because I you know, in fact, I don't need all
of them. In fact, can't remember the last time I watched anything on
Peacock to be honest with you. But you know, Hulu's gonna have I
mean, Hulu's had live sports before Amazon Prime already has. I feel like
there's one I'm missing on that that had, Like Netflix is gonna have live
stuff. Netflix is gonna have live NBA Christmas games. I believe did Sling.
I don't know even know if people are still you. I think Sling
got bought by somebody. I think I think direct TV. Yeah, I
could be wrong here. I think direct TV or I'm sorry, Dish Network.
I believe owned Sling TV. Okay, and instead and because now all
the other like for example, you can get Spectrum or Direct TV on your
Roku, meaning like you don't have to have a dish. They sell a
they sell a streaming service to where you get their their you know, their
service. But it's not with a box and it's not with a satellite.
It's with the stream like instead of watching their you know, watching their television
channels, they provide you know, the old school way, you're doing it
relying on your internet. So I think because that was where they were heading
instead. I mean, they probably just killed Sling and made it to where
you're now doing, you know, Dish network stream whatever it's called, which
I'm sure they came up with a better name than that. But I remember
back in like two thousand and eleven twenty twelve, it wasn't very often,
but you know, Louisville football would have a game against like Fi you and
Louisville basketball is at that point especially rarely did you have any game that wasn't
on television somewhere, but there'd be the occasional one. That's and I just
remember, you know, the fan base collectively losing their minds because they just
you know, it's not even just older people that are lagging a little bit
behind with technology. Is people that were just like, wait, wait,
I gotta do what And I'm like, you know, it's not that hard.
But then again, I used to say, it isn't that difficult.
But then again, at that time, I literally was getting out my laptop
and connecting an HDMI cable and you know, just having to drag the browser
over to the TV and expand to go full screen like that wasn't really convenient.
To be honest with you and to see the way. You know,
it's easy to do now. And look, I know some people who stream
on their phone, which is easier to do. It's just you're on your
phone. Like if you've got you know, if you've got Peacock on your
phone, that maybe you know, easier for you to to to manage than
you know, getting a Roku and figuring out a smart TV to where you
can act what do they call it? When you can scale? Like take
this, what's the screen mirror? Yes, you can mirror your phone to
your TV. And I know a lot of people that do that and that
makes it to you know, but again I feel like that actually would be
more work to figuring out how to mirror your phone to your TV than it
would be to just you know, sign up for Peacock on your computer or
your phone and then download the app. But yeah, that'll be a big
game and it will only be available for you to watch if you have Peacock.
So you've you know, you've got many months now to figure that out
if you want to make the investment. Uh, and and purchase the Peacock
up prescription subscription. All right, it is coffee and company. We are
fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with
us. We obviously have discussed the big news today. It's another day where
Louisville is nationally being discussed more so than usual, and it's because a good
thing happened. They decided to drop the charges against Scottie Scheffler. That was
what everybody expected whenever we found out they were going to have at one o'clock
today, which they did. Michael kann All, the Jefferson County Attorney,
was going to speak to the judge about the case, and he decided to,
you know, do exactly that and drop the charges. I now tender
to the court a motion at order to dismiss all these charges in this case
against mister Scheffler with prejudice. So this is what needed to happen. But
I'm telling you, any little update that we have received since this incident occurred
twelve days ago on that Friday morning, has made it more and more clear
that this should have been avoided and this didn't need to happen. And this,
in my opinion, is just a shoddy job by law enforcement, especially
when you hear Scotti Scheffler doesn't mean that like a mistake wasn't made, but
it was a misunderstanding. The Jefferson County attorney now agrees with that. So
in their defense, they they agree that's why they've done what they've done.
But initially it made it look as if they weren't even willing to you know,
like I just can't imagine what in their investigation has changed to where they
go from. You know, we're not dropping the charges and we're going to
actually fight that Steve Romans is trying to get his client, who's the number
one golf in the world, some preferential treatment here, which wasn't even the
case. I mean, that wasn't true. So it's just it's a bad
look all the way around. And let's be real, LMPD, I don't
think is you know, in position to be continuously having these bad looks,
these things that could be avoided where people can point the finger from across the
country and say, yeah, LMPD, Louisville Metropolite Department, Yeah, those
guys, they're not you know, And again, everybody has their there,
everybody has their thoughts on law enforcement, and I think we can all agree
maybe some of you don't. Like, we have really good cops in the
city of Louisville, a lot of them. I've met many of them.
You know, my son, he happens to be obsessed with firefighters and policemen
and if he sees one out like he's gonna walk up to it and just
jaw on the floor looking like he saw a superhero. And you know,
they're always really kind to him. And you know, we have good law
enforcement here, but it just you hate whenever's you know, one or maybe
two. Because I think the guy who talked to Scottie Scheffler that we heard
earlier today for the first time, that guy, I don't think he I
don't think that was a good look from him in anyway as far as how
he handled it the way he I mean, just not de escalating anything,
which I thought is sort of what you're supposed to do. I mean,
who at that point thought they were they were in danger? Like I mean,
the the reaction from everybody other than that one cop gillis that guy.
They didn't. They didn't, they didn't. It was completely calm from what
we could see. So it just should have been avoided. And I'm happy
that that there's not going to be any lawsuit, although I do think Scotti
Schefler might have had might have had some success if he wanted to pursue litigation,
but obviously that would be bad for Louisville, and it sounds like that's
something he's not interested in, which again, that's just that's something you probably
hear from a defense attorney that just wants to say the right things and continue
to defend their client and make them appear to be great, upstanding citizens.
But knowing what we'd already knew about Scotti Scheffler as far as his reputation and
what people thought of him, and then hearing him today from that video that
I guess it was just audio that became public for the first time as far
as how he talked to law enforcement after the fact, Like I kind of
believe it's true that he's like, yeah, I don't want to do it
because hey, if we end up winning a lawsuit, guess who pays for
that. The City of Louisville, the taxpayers. So here's Steve Romanz who
has become quite the star here locally just and I don't know if people realize
this, but he's defended some folks that were involved in some pretty serious charges,
and he's had I mean, he's a very I think there's some people
maybe just getting their first introduction to him, but he's got that great,
that good, great Kentucky accent, and he's good man. I know at
one point he was doing I guess, just some legal commentary, some analysis
stuff where I think it might have been it might have been might have been
CNN at some point, and I don't know what led to that, but
he, like, he's also been a part of I guess I can't think
of what the what the show is called, but at times, like the
true crime shows that feature different you know, Storre, like, I guess
at one point there was a the defendant that he represented that was their crime
or I guess their alleged crime was a part of some series that that covered
those kind of things, and Romans was on it and he was. I
mean, he's he's he's entertaining. He's got a future in radio if he
ever wants it, but I would imagine practicing law probably is a better gig
that pays a lot more. But here is him discussing the decision not to
have any litigation. Here, lawsuits are paid by the taxpayers. He prevails
in civil litigation against LMPD, who pays that taxpayers of Louisville. He doesn't
wish the taxpayers to Louisville of Louisville to pay him for whatever occurred. So
what made this a felony charge to where no matter what, Hey, he's
going to jail because this happened. Was the the you know, the assault
on a police officer where he was accused of dragging the cop ten to fifteen
yards. And I guess I can't see that. I'm surprised, but I
think what I you know, what stood out to me today more than anything
was that they have witnesses that both Romans and the county attorney have spoken to
that that confirmed they that did not happen like that I guess was just a
lie was made up. There are multiple eyewitnesses to the incident, the actual
initial contact that I've spoken with, I have statements from that the county spoke
the prosecutor's office have spoken with that confirm that he was not dragged. You
believe they would have dismissed this case if he was dragged, No, they
would not have that did not happen, So you gotta wonder if something comes
of this for that officer. I mean, he's already had issues before where
he's gotten in trouble for you know, where he had had some I guess
somebody he arrested for duy in his in his car and he was doing donuts
in the parking lot with this person in the vehicle. I mean, that's
like something you've seen in a movie. Conduct unbecoming of an officer. I
believe was another issue that he had. I don't know the details of that
being at fault for an accident. So this doesn't make him like the worst
person in the world. But you know, I'd say at this point there's
been enough evidence that, you know, maybe he shouldn't be given the an
authority that somebody that has a badge has because he's you know, doesn't seem
like he does a great job, and nobody's perfect. People are gonna make
mistakes. But you know, this isn't just one thing. All right,
let's get a quick break out of the way. We are going to be
joined coming up here at about four forty five with a guest that will be
making her debut. It is Susan Dunn, physical therapists from Pro Rehab Physical
Therapy. We talked to our folks over there at Pro Rehab each in every
week, and she'll be joining us and look forward to the conversation. So
we'll have one more segment here and then we'll get to Miss Susan Dunn and
then we will keep it rolling along. It's coffee and company. We are
fuel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. It was a couple
of weeks ago we were discussing the Bronnie James NBA draft. I guess buzz
and I'm not even really sure if you should call it that, but I
mean, he is one of the most talked about. In fact, he
is the most talked about player in this draft, isn't he. I mean,
this is a week draft. There's no I mean, there's really no
superstar. I mean, who knows, Maybe one of these guys does end
up turning into like a really really good all time NBA great, But I
mean, I think even legitimate college basketball fans would would have a tough time
telling you a lot about who's projected to go in the top ten. There's
a foreign guy number one, Zachary riasheer not familiar with him. The number
two pick apparently is going to be Alexander Sar who is an overtime elite guy
who is originally from Australia. Number three is Dalton Kinnect who played at Tennessee.
Cody Williams number four. I bet a lot of people don't know who
that is. He was a freshman last year at Colorado. Everybody around here
knows. The number five is Read Shepherd. Number six, Matas buzzellis.
That's a guy who also went the over. It went to the G League.
I night was, you know, should have been a freshman this past
year but went to Glee were out instead. Stefan Castle. I mean,
I think you know of him because he played at Yukon, but he's I
mean, I don't think he's like a marketed star coming from the college game.
Rob Dillingham number eight, Donovan Klingon number nine to the Yukon big Man,
and then Ron Holland number ten. That is the NBA Draft dot Net's
top ten mock draft as of right now. Ron Holland, by the way,
another guy who ended up going to the G League rather than playing in
college. So it's a really weak draft, and it makes me feel even
more confident in saying that. For obvious reasons that have nothing to do with
his game or his potential, Bronnie James is the most talked about guy in
this draft, and as we discussed a couple weeks ago, this reminds me
of the rare TMZ type situation in sports where just talking about Lebron James's son
and about where he may end up going in the NBA draft, and like
what Lebron would end up doing, Like would he end up trying to opt
out of his contract to go play with his son wherever that may end up
being. You know, I mean, it's an interesting conversation just because regardless
if you think that he's worthy of being drafted, I think we all know
he's going to be drafted, and that there may be teams who would never
say it, but they, I mean, we know what they'd be they'd
be doing. They're drafting Bronni to potentially get Lebron, And even if they
know Lebron's on the back end of his career and Bronnie James is probably not
worth a draft pick, you would have ticket sales merchandise sales, notre I
mean, hell, Lebron, no matter who Lebron plays for, that's all
they're going to talk about on those round table ESPN shows. And some franchises
may say, look, what are we going to be without doing this ninth
in the West. Why not see if something, you know, see if
we have some success and maybe we make the playoffs and oh, by the
way, there'll be more attention on this franchise than maybe ever because Lebron and
his son are playing for us. So this may sound crazy, but what
if whoever has the number one pick kind of does what they did back when
they drafted Anthony Bennett number one and does the unthinkable And maybe it's not that
unthinkable, but drafts Brownie James number one. I'm not saying that will happen,
but you draw that kind of reaction similar to when Anthony Bennett went,
Yeah, it is wild to think about. Like, how like if there's
one draft, I mean some are saying that, well, don't be so
hard on Brownie. It's a week draft. You know. That's why he's
getting so much buzz, Like, don't insult me. That has nothing to
do with it. It is a week draft, but like you know,
like because there's no viewed, can't miss prospect, like crazy things have happened,
maybe the Hawks say, look the help. Well, you know with
the Hawks, like what are we gonna do? We're getting rid of Trey
Young. He wants out and this is you know, this will give the
Hawks more notoriety than they've ever had. But it's just you know, the
latest on his NBA situation is that he has now declined workouts with eight NBA
teams and he's only now going to visit and work out with two the Lakers
and UH and the Suns. And this is a man who averaged four points
and two rebounds a game last year for a bad USC team that is turning
down workouts for NBA teams. I mean, just think about that. It
confirms that it's a TMZ type sports story, which I hate. Look,
at the end of the day, sports is entertainment, So I understand,
like, you know, that's what really does drive viewership. I mean,
you want to see a competitive game that you you know will be entertaining,
but a lot of the off the court, off the field stuff like that,
the entertainment that you get from you know, all the other shenanigans within
sports, it matters. But like Deon Sanders is the other example I can
think of. Deon Sanders can continue to be Deon Sanders and do Deon Sanders
things and speak and he's great at that, by the way, He's really
good at it. And he can keep talking a big game about you know,
we'll come and get your players. You know, we're going to be
in the college football Playoff. It's not it's not an expectation, it's the
stand and whatever. His you know, big talk was about Colorado in year
two making the playoff. Like he can keep saying all that stuff and come
new where close to making it happen, and he is still going to be
one of the most talked about figures within college basketball. Bronnie James. I
feel like he'll stay in the NBA as long as he wants because, you
know, and maybe the NBA eventually will realize like there's just no there's no
you know, there's no benefit. And in fact, like if he's still
around in the NBA in five years and Lebron is not playing anymore because he's
retired, what's the benefit of having Lebron or what's the Lebron's son, Like
there's no benefit. In fact, you look foolish, like people are probably
clowning you, and they're probably already doing it now just because it's a crazy
thing to do. But again, like it's business and that type of situation,
that arrangement where you decide, hey, we don't know how good we're
going to be, but I know what kind of attention we would get.
And by the way, Lebron is Lebron, Like, no matter what team
he's on, there are millions upon millions of fans of his that will be
a fan of that team, and that helps you as a franchise from a
business standpoint financially. So like it seems silly, but like it's a it'll
make your money and that matters. But I want to criticize Lebron because I'm
like, you know, you're not really helping your son. But I don't
really I don't really know what I could criticize him for. I mean,
maybe he should have advised him to go back to college and not really have
to, you know, be talked to, because when he's being talked about
now, people are like, wow, it's crazy Lebron's son, who you
know, isn't good is likely going to be a first round pick because of
his dad. But also if I'm Lebron, like, he probably knows that
the longer that his son plays in college, the more obvious it'll be that
he's probably not good enough to be an NBA player. He's not a bum,
but I mean he's I mean he's not. He couldn't get legitimate playing
time at USC who wasn't very good. So I don't really know if I
was Lebron, which I can't imagine that wouldn't want to imagine that. I
mean, obviously you could be a lot. I mean, Lebron's a very
successful human. I'm just saying, like, I don't I wouldn't be able
to relate to someone of that status. But being super famous and having a
kid who wanted to follow in your footsteps, for whatever it may be,
Like, if that ends up happening, it's got to be the ultimate dream
come true for you as a parent and as a father. I mean,
you're not proud, you'd be, But Lebron, who I'm sure is proud,
does he have the self awareness? He doesn't. He doesn't have any
of that to know that, Like, dude, your your son's not really
earning anything in the NBA. He's literally getting it strictly because of you.
But like not because you did anything wrong, It's because you're Lebron James.
And I do remember one of my favorite quotes from Lebron. This was when
Broni was like a freshman in high school. You know that he he made
he wish people would just leave him alone. He's a kid. We don't
want to talk about any recruitment. I'm trying to I'm trying everything I can
to let him have a normal life. And you know, I'm thinking,
well, you know, naming your son Lebron James Junior's probably not a great
decision if that's what you wanted him to live, you know, a life
outside of the spotlight, which that was never going to happen, especially if
he plays basketball. But you know quite clear, I mean they call him
Bronni because you know he's the he's the I guess that's the the younger way
to say it. But I'm fascinated by it. I don't think you know,
we're going to see Bronnie James turn into some NBA star. Here's what's
likely going to happen. He'll probably end up getting drafted by the Lakers,
right because I don't know, I mean, I don't get the sense Lebron
wants to, you know, Lebron wants to, you know, leave LA.
I think he likes it there. But yeah, I mean, I'm
trying to see where they pick, because that would actually be the best case
scenario for Bronny is if like the Lakers use their last pick in the second
round on him. Because it's not as if you know, I mean that,
I mean again, it's still quite clear they're doing it because of his
dad. And maybe some would say, hey, this guy shouldn't be able
to make a draft pick for us, but like he's Lebron, he can't.
He's you know. And where it's really gonna get interesting is once Lebron
retires. He's been very very vocal about this. He wants to own an
NBA franchise in Las Vegas. I would imagine the next city that gets an
NBA team will be Las Vegas, and it'll probably be when expansion happens,
and Lebron wants to be the owner. I don't think he can play while
being the owner. But if he's the owner, you know, Bronni James
is going to play in the NBA as long as he wants for that team.
So I know, I don't really know who to blame for this,
because it's an I guess I just blame the way you know, the news
cycle works now, right, because it gets a lot of numbers. That's
why they talk about it. That's why it was a humongous discussion on Cowhard
earlier today. But I mean, I just one of those things where I
have a hard time thinking, like at this point, like who cares?
But then again, I just spent the last ten minutes talking about it on
my show, so you know. But I'm watching like highlights from USC Draft
Express put together, like some highlights from a workout he did, and like,
you know, he looks like a mid major college basketball player, which
is nothing wrong with that. That's that's something you should be If that's you,
that's something you should be really proud of. But to know that he's
probably gonna end up going to the NBA and be a draft pick, I
mean, I'll put it this way. If you are a borderline draftable guy
with no eligibility left and you're like it, you know, you're if you're
gonna get drafted. It's going to be in spot like between fifty and sixty
the end of the draft, and like Lebron's son gets one of those spots,
that's got to piss you off. Right, here's an earn you up
becus thought, at least from me as an Indiana fans perspective. I mean,
Trace Jackson Davis got drafted very late last year. He had a wonderful
rookie season. Imagine if that gets switched around with this season and Browning takes
one of those last spots, maybe Trace Jackson Davis isn't even in the league
right now. Yeah, and you know, I'm sure they'll have a calculated
answer for it. But like when the GMS and the coaches make like they
make comments and have a press conference following a draft to discuss like, I
mean, what are they going to say, we've been really eyeballing this young
man at USC a lot of talent who knew turned out is dad works for
us? What a small world? Like, don't sell us on what you
mean they're going to But like he's being drafted because of whose dad is,
Like, that's just what it is, all right, Let's get to a
quick time. We'll come back here on the other side again. We've got
someone making their debut here on Coffee and Company. That's Susan Dunn from pro
Reap Physical Therapy. We'll chat with her on the other side, So stick
around right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. That's right, Coffee and Company
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ninety Louisville dot com. And we now have a guest making her debut today.
It is Miss Susan Dunn who joins us from pro Reap Physical Therapy.
How we doing, Susan, I'm doing fantastic. How are you doing?
I'm doing great. I know you were very busy doing things much more important
than this, so I do appreciate you you making time for us. But
I've learned a lot about physical therapy over the years talking to doctor Benn's and
doctor McElroy, and I understand you specialize in pelvic health. And Eric let
me know that the month of May is pelvic health Month, and I guess
I'll just start with what's that when it comes to tree patients first. I
know you can you can discuss sort of what types of patients you typically see.
But is this one of those things where if someone does in fact need
they you know, they need physical therapy for this, it's something they're kind
of learning about at that time, meaning they weren't even aware that this was,
that this existed. Oh, we hear it all the time. People
have no idea that pelvic physical therapy is even a thing, but it is
extremely common, so common that we actually have two of the pro reup locations
dedicated one hundred percent to just treating public patients. And then we also have
some satellite locations as well. So it affects men, it affects women,
it affects kids. We have a pediatric program anybody that has a pelvis the
LBGTQ plus community. So when I first started as a physical therapist, to
be honest, I didn't even know that this exists really, And yeah,
I got introduced to it because I had a passion for sports medicine and at
that particular time, my interest was strong for or the female athlete, and
you can't work with a bunch of female athletes and not run across pelvic issues,
and I don't know how to treat them. So found out about this
training did it. This is many many, many years ago and totally changed
the trajectory of my career. And so for the last quarter century, that's
pretty much all I see all day long is public patients of all sorts and
kinds. So anything that can go wrong anywhere else in the athletic body or
even just the pedestrian body that you don't even have to be an athlete,
can go wrong in the public area. You can tear muscles, you can
strain them, you can have nerve pain, you can break the pelvic bones,
you name it, we treat it in the pelvic area. You mentioned,
there's you know, various you know you mentioned men, children, women.
I mean, it's very common. But is there one type of patient
that is maybe the reason they're there seeing you guys to get help is because
of one specific thing that is maybe more common than others. Well, I
mean probably the most common thing that we'll be seen as in the female population
because of childbirth and trauma that happens to that and so that's probably what people
know more about. But I'll tell you what I get really passionate talking about
is male pelvic because it gets overlooked a lot because women, you know,
have the babies and deal with all that. We set a lot of attention
and medical care in that direction when I first started treating pelvic patients, the
male pelvic patients, you know, And let me be clear because this is
really important for the listeners to hear this because sometimes they're too embarrassed to seek
help because the pain that they're describing may not be like growin pain or something
like that. It's very specific, so they may and the male patients have
a testicular pain or anal pain or tip of the penis type of pain.
And these are all very common referred pain patterns that we see that I have
nothing to do with the viscera, with the genitalia, but is actually related
to the nerve and the muscle, and it's very treatable. So male patients
a lot of times would be screened by you know, the urologists and their
primary care. But you know, there's nothing wrong with the bladder, there's
nothing wrong with any of the genitalia, and so it wasn't an automatic thing
to have those patients referred athlete or not referred to physical therapy. So I
think women will get the referral more often than the male patients will. But
it's so so important for patients to know that if they clear all of the
the bladder, the women, the uterus, the ovaries for men, the
testicles, and you've had the ultrasounds and you've had everything, and you go
out to play that round of golf, and after golf you can't urinate,
or you're having pain with sexual function or this sharp stabbing pain that's going up
into your growing and no one knows what it is. Well, you might
want to see a public therapist. I mean that sounds very, very scary,
and yes, I can imagine most men would. It wouldn't be something
they'd be super comfortable dealing with unless they got to a point where they felt
like they had to. I could be wrong here, but I and this
kind of goes back to my first question. I imagine there's probably a lot
of men who you know, obviously don't want to be going through what they're
going through, but there's a sense of relief knowing that, hey, this
is exactly the type of help I need to kind of get this figured out.
And again they're probably learning that it even exists at that point, right
right, And I will say when you have a physician or PA or a
nurse practitioner and they are trying to get the patient to go to public physical
therapy a lot of times and please feel free to call any of our career
reac clinics, especially our pelvic ones, that people have questions, but a
lot of times they're like, what the heck are they going to do?
I can imagine people have questions. Yeah, and if people have questions like
that, feel free to call because we can we can explain it and put
you at ease over the over the phone. But yeah, it's physical therapy.
We're treating muscle, bone, or nerve, joint, you know,
disorder. The way we do the exams, of course, they're going to
be different than the way that we would do a shoulder or a knee exam,
but all of it is we make the patient comfortable and modest. Our
public clinics are set up with private treatment rooms, and so we do everything
to make sure that the patient is comfortable. But in the athletic world,
pelvic dysfunction is extremely common. And certain sports, the obvious ones like cyclists,
you'll hear about that and what they have to deal with with sitting in
the saddle and sometimes nerve damage or things like that. But there's other sports
that you wouldn't even expect that would you know, bring up pelvic pain and
symptoms. So yeah, and I mean it's also and it's you don't have
to be an athlete. Sure plenty of people that aren't athletes as well.
So I'm sure there's a lot of effort being put in from your industry to
to let physicians know, Hey, you know you should consider when it comes
to the men's side, you know, we should get more referrals because this
could be something that I mean, with it growing the way that it is,
I'm sure there's things you guys are doing to try to make it clear,
Hey, don't be afraid to refer them. We may be able to
help them and you know, change their life, right right, Oh exactly,
Yes, skilled public physical therapist is going to be able to tell on
the initial evaluation if this is due to a muscular scletol, just like we
would with any other body part. We'll be able to do that differential diagnosis,
and and and for a lot of patients they don't. They can directly
refer themselves to physical therapy. They don't always need a doctor's referral. And
so I don't think people off and thing to even put that on their radar
that if they're not getting answers maybe to see a public therapist. You hear
that, folks, if you're somebody that maybe has had an issue that you're
you're you've not got clarity on what it could be, KEP pro rehab in
mind, because they could they could help you and joining us is Susan done
from Prairie have physical therapy. One more question I had for you when it
comes to treating younger patients is in I know every and every everybody that needs
physical therapy for different reasons. You know, you never know what could have
led to them getting there to need it. But with younger younger folks,
is there something a little more common that you see more often that has led
to you treating a younger patient? Well younger, I mean we see patients
in the pediatric program that go all the way down into ages you know,
five to ten. And then we also have teenagers, and then you know,
of every age and the diagnos is really different. Now when we get
into the little younger, little younger people, it tends not to be sports.
When we get a little bit older with the is into middle school and
high school. Then I'll be honest, we've actually seen pretty much any sport
that has any cutting, so soccer or basketball or anything like that. Yet
you certainly are it's an invitation to having some public dysfunction, not to make
anybody nervous about playing any of the sports at all, But if any of
those problems arise, and then some of it is just poor training, you
know, maybe they don't have the best whatever school system they're in, they
don't have the best of trainers or people working with them, and so how
they do their core work crunches, sit ups or some of that. If
it's if it's overdone, overtrained, or maybe not with the best direction,
then you can get the younger athlete that can. Then it'll manifests further down
from the abdomen as pubvic symptoms. So and I mean literally we see patients
of all ages, all ages with this. I lied one more question because
I thought to myself, if it was me and someone you know, finally
figured out that I needed to seek help from program physical therapy with pelvic health
and physical therapy that in that lane, I would be scared too, because
I would think, oh goodness, what does that mean? Is it going
to be uncomfortable? Is it going to be awkward. I'm sure you guys
look forward to hearing from those folks because you can put them at ease and
let them know, Hey, we're here to help. We're going to make
this as smooth as as we possibly can. So what I guess is that
message to folks that may be scared, right, I mean, you don't
have to get into the specifics, but I can certainly relate to that.
I would be very worried too if I knew nothing about it, and you
know, I would just be uncomfortable. Oh yeah, I mean, I
don't blame me. I'll be honest. When I went from my training,
I remember thinking, I don't even know what I'm getting myself into here,
and I was worried that me as a clinician, was going to be uncomfortable
with the whole pros And so I totally get that. You're human, You're
right, Gods, Yeah, So here's what I can tell you is that
we don't do anything that the patients don't want us to do. Yes,
is pelvic exam part of our training, Yes, it is. Do we
always have to do that? No, we don't. There's a lot that
we can discern without that. We'll explain if we think it's a good idea.
But if a patient, especially now our younger patients, we definitely aren't
doing any of that type of thing. But we have other tools in the
clinic that we can use that well, to be honest, that will allow
people to keep clothes on. So we want the patient to feel comfortable.
And in all the years, the thousands of patients that I've seen in my
career, I is a number one mission that the patient feels comfortable at ease,
that we answer all their questions, that they understand, you know whatever
exams, and then no one is talked in anything that they don't want to
do. So we've had a lot of tools in our toolbox, and then
we try to treat each patient as an individual. So and if anybody truly
has questions, I can't tell you how many those phone calls that I've taken
over the years where I'm sure. I'm just getting on the phone with them
and answer the questions and put them in these before they even come in for
the first appointment. So and all the clinicians are like that. It's just
an amazing team that I work with. I'm very blessed. Well, we
appreciate you making time for us. I know you're very busy. I really
enjoyed the conversation, very informative stuff, and hopefully we can catch up with
you again. Susan. Thanks Nick, I appreciate it all right, you
have a great day. Take care. That's Susan done again from Proria Physical
Therapy. Some good stuff there. I like learning on this show, right,
I like learning. I learned a lot there, and we certainly appreciate
her and our friends over at Proria Physical Therapy. We got another hour to
go and a lot more to get into, so stick with us right here
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