WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:09.199 Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery Broadcast. If you don't make mistakes, you 2 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:12.919 won't learn. With your host Corey Winfield, you know there was a reason 3 00:00:12.919 --> 00:00:15.679 why that didn't work out, and you can look back at it and go, 4 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:18.280 yep, I'm glad that didn't work out how I wanted it, because 5 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:23.440 that would have been horrible. And co host Marline Winningfield fairly expensive membership to 6 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:27.160 Cold Gym when I was in college, but I used that all the time. 7 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:35.359 You don't make mistakes, you won't learn. It is Fridays, you 8 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:38.439 and twenty eight. My name is Corey Winfield, my name's Nie Winfield, 9 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:44.200 and this is the two seventeen Recovery Podcast for the eighth time tonight. Is 10 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:48.359 that about right, Corey Smoker? Yes, it is Jesse Smokers. That 11 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:51.079 seem about right. This is about right? Yeah, you know, I 12 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:54.560 was just letting you guys know, I don't just listen to the intro. 13 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:57.960 I live it. It's right, you know. We're just trying to hit 14 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:00.439 it again, and then I didn't. I'm on his microphone. She was 15 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:03.600 like trying to say her name, and I'm just like, for real, 16 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:04.879 that just happened. And we tried to do it the first time, but 17 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:07.560 then I had the MIC's in the right spot, so it wasn't really picking 18 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:12.760 everybody up. And Parker's joining us too, which is cute for a minute. 19 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:19.280 Maybe it's a little little boy. How old is he? Four weeks 20 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:23.239 and nine days? Today? It's five weeks? Okay, five weeks and 21 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:26.079 a couple of days. Yeah, yeah, that's it's funny because I like 22 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:30.120 the four weeks and nine days. Thank you. We went up to dinner 23 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:32.719 earlier and the waitress asked how old he was, and You're like, what 24 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:34.760 was he four weeks and four I was like, no, he's five weeks. 25 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:38.319 I think I'm just like now on track because you are wishing away his 26 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:42.400 newbornness every time. You're like, I can't wait till he's two. I 27 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:46.719 can't wait till he's three, can't wait till he can talk and walk? 28 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:49.280 And okay, in two years when we do the same podcast, when he's 29 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:53.640 here with us, tell me it's not gonna be cuter. I'm just saying. 30 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:56.959 So I'm just like, I'm doing the opposite. I'm like, no, 31 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:00.560 we're going to keep him young. For people, well who have children, 32 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:04.799 you know exactly, especially guys who have children. You know what I'm 33 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:08.639 going through. The baby loves the mama, like he sleeps on them. 34 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:12.560 Mean, she's everything to that little baby, you know. And yeah, 35 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:15.120 daddy's cool. Daddy can like put him down and let him give him some 36 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:20.120 me time. Momy can't do that. But I think when he gets bigger, 37 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:22.120 it'll be more fun for me. That's why I'm like, I'm not 38 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:30.599 wishing away his little cuteness. I'm just saying, here's what I see two 39 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:36.560 years from now, trying to do this podcast. I see a microphone swinging 40 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:39.159 this way. I see one of us ripping the headphones off, trying to 41 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:46.560 chase him. Yeah, or he could just be here trying to talk. 42 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:50.719 Yeah, true that, Like you see him hooked up his own little chair. 43 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:54.439 We'll have this serious conversation about whatever stupid president we have at that time, 44 00:02:54.759 --> 00:03:00.439 and then we'll just hear a pooped. It was like it was thrown 45 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:02.599 in words like he's got Tourett's or something. I'm like, damn it, 46 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:07.240 Parker, No, we're having a serious conversation about our stupid president whatever once 47 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.560 you want it is, at least we know we were winning that, Like 48 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:17.000 whoever wins, good job. You suck. I'm voting for future president Winfield. 49 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:20.560 Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yes, I would have 50 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:23.680 killed them in that debate. Oh yeah, I don't think I can say 51 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:28.479 that when I'm talking about the president you obviously, well you said it right. 52 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:30.680 Yeah. It didn't mean like I'm not really going to I meant like 53 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:38.080 I would have just lyrically dilaplicated. I would have dilapplicated them. Yes, 54 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:44.879 not that's too close to the other word. But I'm not going to say 55 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:50.560 because it's you can't say that stuff about presidents obviously anyway. So yes, 56 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:52.919 the debate, Jesse, we spoke on this, and Martie's like, I 57 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:55.719 don't want to talk about this. You and Corey Smoker. You guys took 58 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:59.840 a nap. You got it started and you see you and got time for 59 00:03:59.879 --> 00:04:02.560 this very smart women. Yes, yeah, Jesse and I are like, 60 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:05.879 we'll got to see what's coming, what's what, what is in our future 61 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:11.840 here and feel and see. Ian Parker was like, I just love to 62 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:16.920 do it, but I want to chime in. But it was the stuff 63 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:19.920 I heard from both sides. Man, it was it was tough. It 64 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:29.040 was very, very tough to to listen to and I I just couldn't even 65 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:30.600 wrap my brain around some of the stuff that was going on. Man. 66 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:39.639 Yeah, I think the only reason it didn't get more out of hand is 67 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:46.399 because they muted Trump's yeah. But and Biden he tried to go long a 68 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:48.000 couple times too. But when they asked the about addiction, that pissed me 69 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.439 off because they just were talking about some machines they got from the border test 70 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:58.920 whatever. Yeah, and then the legal aliens bring it to do And the 71 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:01.160 guy even gave him the even give another chances, He's like, Okay, 72 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:04.920 let me ask it again. What about people who suffer from addiction? How 73 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:09.439 are you going to help them? Well, if we can stop the legal 74 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:13.160 aliens from cross on the border, I'm like Jesus, Mother of Christ. 75 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:20.560 It just shows me how uneducated even the higher ups are and how bad it 76 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:27.040 is with addiction. Yeah, Like they just throw some money at it and 77 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:29.519 like, okay, now'll fix it. And then maybe they're and that's the 78 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:34.879 thing too, and you guys probably know this, but they try to chart 79 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:40.680 and track everything, and they do a survey, or they'll do this, 80 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:44.519 or they'll ask people this, But who are they asking the right questions? 81 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:46.720 First of all, and who are they asking those questions too? Are they 82 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:48.800 telling the truth? I mean, there's so many things to go into this, 83 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:51.319 Like we give people, we give them minds, we give them a 84 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:55.560 thing that's called the Bark ten, which is ten questions like how you feeling, 85 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.680 you think they your family, friends are helping, you know, blah 86 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:00.959 blah blah, And it's like just ten quiet. Are those the right questions 87 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:05.319 to be asking to base, like the whole funding thing or where you're going 88 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:12.839 or what you're doing to help people? I don't know. Yeah, there 89 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:21.360 seems that there would be a better way to be able to put actual numbers 90 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:30.120 behind how bad addiction is in the United States and not just want to blame 91 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:35.759 the drugs coming in to the United States. Yeah, like the ones from 92 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:42.000 the liquor store or the liquor factory where they're making liquor and beer. And 93 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:45.879 about that is that come up from Mexico too, right, Because there's still 94 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:49.759 more people who drink than do with the other drugs. So it's kind of 95 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:55.040 like, well, what we do about that? That's that's still people who 96 00:06:55.040 --> 00:07:00.360 are addicted. If you'd ask me two days, well probably I didn't know 97 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.360 because I started shaking road, but before my liver shut down and kidney shut 98 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:05.680 down, if you had asked me around that time, like maybe let's say 99 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:10.800 six months before that, are you an alcoholic? Are you an addict? 100 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:14.680 And I said no. And so if someone would have came by on a 101 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:16.399 survey and I said no, yeah, how much do you drink? I 102 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:18.720 would have lied. I don't know about a pine a night, but really 103 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:23.639 it was more than the fifth the night. But oh yeah, But like 104 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:26.000 I would have lied about it. You know, I wasn't going to tell 105 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:28.199 the truth. I would want it because I didn't want them to judge me. 106 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:31.000 So again, I think a lot of people are in that same boat. 107 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:36.759 Yeah, So like these questionneers and all these surveys and these stats that 108 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:40.000 they want, well, we need stats. We need these numbers, and 109 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.839 are you getting the right ones? And the end of the day, when 110 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:46.360 I'm president, We're gonna have fun in recovery, you know. That's that 111 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:50.800 was my motto going into it. It seems to attract some fun people and 112 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:55.480 that's what we do, and that's what it's all about. I mean, 113 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:59.279 recovery is serious. It's I mean, it's a life and death thing. 114 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:05.839 But if you're not having fun, you're gonna go why would you stay? 115 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:13.279 Yeah, I mean at least I mean when we're using right, we're numbing 116 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:18.279 it. Are we having fun? No? But we're not feeling that pain 117 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.800 in that moment, you know, And that's why we're trying to escape, 118 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:24.199 you know, because we don't like the way we feel. Right. And 119 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:31.639 if you're just trying to white knuckle it and go through life, just well, 120 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:33.840 I'm just not gonna use, not gonna drink. But you didn't change 121 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:41.279 anything. You're not having fun, life's miserable. Well, nothing's changed, 122 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:43.679 you know, You're still going to be feeling miserable. Correct, That's what 123 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:48.120 I was gonna say. I'm like, I definitely won't if I didn't start 124 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:54.799 redefining my definition of fun and living in recovery and start meeting and hanging out 125 00:08:54.840 --> 00:09:03.559 with more people with like mindedness to me, and stayed miserable in my recovery, 126 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:05.639 yeah, I would have. I would have done picked up by now 127 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:11.240 and not stuck around to see all the gifts and miracles that I've had along 128 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:16.399 the way. And in the beginning it was easy for me to stay miserable. 129 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:22.559 Gave me excuse to continue to act the way I was acting, but 130 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:30.720 without drugs and alcohol. See, nothing's getting better. Yeah, drank of 131 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:35.919 two weeks with this stupid This doesn't work because I just wanted. I just 132 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:41.120 needed to get bad enough so I could leave or justify the reason why I'm 133 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:45.759 going to go back out and destroy myself. But like when we had the 134 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:52.320 two one seven Recovery show here last week and it was about hope, I 135 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:58.360 heard a lot of people say, yeah, sobered up, but all my 136 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:05.759 problems were still there, and it's like, Yep, that's where the work 137 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:13.720 begins, and that's where that's where it really you know, that's where the 138 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:18.679 rubber meets the road, if you will. And I think for me when 139 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:22.679 all that kind of came to a reality, like boom, still got the 140 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:24.799 problem, still got this, still have this, Still got bills that haven't 141 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:31.639 paid, still have you know, a little crappy car, you know, 142 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:35.960 like it was all those little things. But when I went to treatment that 143 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:43.000 last time, it was like I took the approach of I'm reinventing myself, 144 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:48.200 Like I'm going to start a new life for myself, and why would I 145 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:52.320 go back to the old one. It clearly wasn't working and I'm gonna have 146 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:54.360 fun and recovery and I'm gonna learn about myself. I'm in this treatment center. 147 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:58.440 I can't leave after a week or two like I normally would. So 148 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:03.679 there's some options, you know, like I can just be miserable and hate 149 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:05.840 it, or I can be like, no, I'm going to change and 150 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:09.720 I'm going to reinvent myself. And I don't know what that that person is 151 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.639 or what it's going to be, but you know, change can be scary. 152 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:22.039 And I think what helped me the most was is finding that people were 153 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:28.960 thinking like I thought and they were relatable. I was like, oh, 154 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:33.559 I'm not the only one who thinks like that, thank god, you know, 155 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:39.360 because I'm selfish. I'm thinking like I'm the only one going through this. 156 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:45.600 I'm a piece of you know, I'm a piece of garbage. I'm 157 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:50.360 no good. I just can't get it, you know. I'm just I'm 158 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:56.559 going to die of this disease because I'm just hopeless and all the things I 159 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:01.000 think is just the disease trying to keep us right where he wants us sick, 160 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:07.279 doesn't want us to be out in the light. No. And we 161 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.200 were talking earlier and Corey I don't know what you said about it. I 162 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:16.799 think you probably agree. But when we first were introduced to a recovery coach, 163 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.919 and I was thinking maybe six years ago for me, seven years ago, 164 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:26.480 maybe I hated them. I didn't have much good to say about him, 165 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:31.440 and I'm like, what are you trying to prove? What are you 166 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:37.159 trying to show? And my first dealing with them was in Ben Harbor at 167 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.360 this place called the Riverwood. And this dude, the first one I met, 168 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:48.639 He's making maybe twelve bucks an hour and he would come on just talk. 169 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:50.159 I'm like, okay, that's why I go in there. And he 170 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.360 just started telling about all these drugs that he did and I'm like, all 171 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:56.519 right, dude, like see you later, buddy, And nothing wrong with 172 00:12:56.519 --> 00:13:00.080 making twelve bucks an hour, but I'm just saying like he wasn't living that 173 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:03.799 life where I'd be like, wow, I want to do that, you 174 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:07.200 know. And I think that's what's cool about two to seventeen Recovery and where 175 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:11.360 we're at is like we can give people a good career with this and really 176 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:16.320 help people and have other people look up to us and go while you're a 177 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.519 recovery coach, while you're not trying to tell me what to do. You're 178 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:22.559 not bragging about all the drugs you did, and you're actually pointing me in 179 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:28.279 the right direction. Like that's a pretty cool gig man. And then sometimes 180 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.399 you just got to drive across the beautiful state of Michigan and pick some money 181 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.159 up or talk with them or do something cool like that, Like, dude, 182 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:37.440 I could do that, Like that's a real career for me. You 183 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:39.639 know, I've been to jail four times. You could say, well, 184 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:43.960 you know, that's actually a resume builder in our profession because you know exactly 185 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:46.240 what we're going to talk about. You know, you know exactly how it 186 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:50.440 feels getting out of jail, you know, or going to jail, and 187 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.679 a lot of times you've been to treatment. Cool how many times? That's 188 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:58.519 perfect because we take people to that place that you've been to eight times, 189 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.039 you know, and it works. But yeah, just that guy though, 190 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:05.159 was just like kind of had nothing offer. And I don't think they had 191 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:07.879 the training back then either. I think they're just like, hey, how 192 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:11.879 long you got cleaned when whatever their little amount was then, right, year, 193 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:15.759 two years, whatever, it was all right, Cool, you're hired. 194 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:20.639 But I think what's cool about some of the organizations maybe that now have 195 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:28.039 the recovery coaches, I think that there's a little bit more of some guidelines 196 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:35.279 for them to kind of stay in maybe. But also now what I see 197 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:37.679 from the recovery coaches I kind of seen when I was coming in or I 198 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:45.320 was starting six seven years ago. To now the recovery coaches that I kind 199 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:52.639 of am viewing in my vision, I'm seeing them actually like living in the 200 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:56.360 recovery as well. And that's kind of what I mean. If I was 201 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:00.919 looking for a recovery coach, I'd want to see someone that's also walk in 202 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:05.519 the walk, that's living the life and recovery as well. So when they're 203 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:11.399 coming at me with their different maybe resources or what help for them, I 204 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:15.679 can see I'm like, wow, Okay, you made some sacrifices, but 205 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.480 you also set some goals, and now look where you're going. I right, 206 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:22.559 I want to go somewhere positive too. I don't want to see I 207 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:26.080 don't want to hear the hero over here. But then I know what you're 208 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:31.360 skipping down the street over there doing, you know. So yeah, and 209 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:37.519 there's nothing better than a drug addict, an alcoholic, or just a drug 210 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:45.720 addict giving back to another attic nobody else understands. And I don't think a 211 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:48.120 lot of people understand that, Like all my story is not that good. 212 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:54.159 No, it's real good, you know. Like I always think, like, 213 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:58.600 thank God, my wife didn't have to go as far down the scale 214 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:03.679 I did, but we had the same bottom. She just got to hers 215 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:08.240 a little quicker than I did. But it's the same, you know. 216 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:15.279 And that's what I like to see. Like I like seeing that recovery coaches 217 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:21.639 aren't exempt from doing what the newcomer has to do to stay sober themselves. 218 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.519 And there is nothing better than seeing a recovery coach at a function, a 219 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:33.679 two one seven function, or ATS function, or even at a meeting. 220 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:40.480 It's like, oh, okay, you do this too. There's something to 221 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:45.279 say about that, Yeah, there really is. And it brings that, 222 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:48.120 like you said, Corey, that I want to see what you're doing and 223 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:51.240 I want to see you out there in the streets doing it. And the 224 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.919 guy that I was talking about, he like lived in South Bend. It's 225 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:56.879 like he really wasn't a part of that community, you know, like in 226 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:00.559 Ben Harbor, Like he lived in a different state, and it was just 227 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.759 like I'm never going to see this dude around. I don't even know this 228 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:08.039 dude, and I don't know. It was just it was not the ideal 229 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:11.799 situation. But I think things have changed and I think, you know, 230 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:17.240 the guidelines and everything are a little different. And just the fact that you 231 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:19.119 can take the state training now, you know, back then, I don't 232 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:22.880 think they had that even in the state training. I was so surprised by 233 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:29.039 it because it was actually good. I was going into it like it's gonna 234 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:30.880 be a state training that's probably gonna suck, But it was actually really really 235 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.480 good and I learned a lot of things, and it was nice to know 236 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:37.480 that I'm gonna send my guys there to take it, you know, because 237 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:42.279 Mitch took it and Justin already taken it. But it was nice to know, 238 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:47.319 like, Okay, they're not just going to some bs play around all 239 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:49.400 week. Thing. It was. It was real training, and it was 240 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:53.240 it was really good and everybody gets something out of it. So it was 241 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:57.480 nice. And there's people that are coming through that I'm like, hey, 242 00:17:57.599 --> 00:18:00.799 do you want to be a recovery coach? This is the stuff that you 243 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:03.079 need to do, and here's the stuff that you need to take and one 244 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:07.279 woman she's got a year, like over a year, but you got to 245 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:08.599 have two years to take the state training. But then you do that and 246 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:12.599 you can work for a place that can actually employ you if they build medicaid 247 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:18.119 and they go that route, which you're certified with the stay you can you're 248 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:22.359 billable. So if she can become an asset to different places. And she 249 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:26.440 took one training and it's a cee car training, which is is okay, 250 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:27.720 it's good. You know, it's a foot in the door, and you 251 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:32.480 can take that when you're six months clean, even though they tell you you're 252 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:36.359 sober when you say you are. And then they'll say at least one point 253 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:41.799 in your life if you've had a year clean, well, okay, I 254 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:44.359 had like twelve years clean at one point, I don't knows. You're a 255 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:48.359 kid, but they say that, and it's just like you're in recovery and 256 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:52.000 say you are, but you got to have like six months, you gotta 257 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:55.400 have two years, you know, like none of it makes sense. But 258 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:02.559 I think most people who want to do that play it straight anyway. You 259 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:04.160 know, they're they're not going to go in there and black I got three 260 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:08.400 years and they got like six months or two weeks, you know, so 261 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:12.960 I and the state went too. They'll like interview you before you take it, 262 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:18.079 and yeah, so they're trying to weed out the byesirs because I'm sure 263 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:22.839 there are some you know, we could be as a lot of people back 264 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:27.000 in our day. Oh yeah, well, and I just think and they 265 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:30.359 probably see that, and they're interviewing, like, what is your motive and 266 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:37.200 motivation behind becoming a peer recovery coach? Well, I want to go swimming 267 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:44.400 and what was it drowned? I want to drowned in Oh, this is 268 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:49.759 this saying just kidding. We're not going there, no, obviously, but 269 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:57.880 yeah, So that's that's recovery coaching nowadays. And I think it's a good 270 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:06.279 career path for some people. And they were saying that we need more of 271 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:08.559 them and stuff, and I agree to an extent, but I just think 272 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:12.440 we need stuff for them to do. Yeah, you know, like I 273 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:15.839 think that they you know, they've come along ways and like they kind of 274 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:21.640 got this bobbling guideline a little bit of like what they are, where their 275 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:25.440 limitations are, where they should stay in ethically. Now, it's like, 276 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:32.000 what how do we like have that set up for them in motion on a 277 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:37.279 daily job. Basiss to make it like a productive right role, right, 278 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:41.279 because some guys will just come to the office and send a desk all day 279 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:47.920 and not do anything, you know, and that would be that would be 280 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:51.279 boring, man, Like that's not having fun. It's a long day. 281 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:53.119 Yeah, And I'm just like, well, how about we grab some guys 282 00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:56.000 who don't have vehicles and go to a meeting out of town, right, 283 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:00.200 you know, like we used to have fun man, backgrounds were living going 284 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:03.839 to meetings. Oh yeah, and we'd go to meetings thirty minutes away and 285 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:07.319 it was a meeting on the way to the meeting and a meeting on the 286 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:10.920 way back and we play some stupid game and laugh and yep. It was 287 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:12.200 fun, man, it really was. And I kind of miss those days 288 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:17.759 a little bit. But you gotta do something, and that's something that people 289 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:19.240 can do easily, you know, like, hey, pick up the phone 290 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:22.839 to start calling some recoveries. We got like seven hundred phone numbers on our 291 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:26.440 blazer, maybe even more, probably more. Yeah, and it's like, 292 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:29.839 see, these people want to go to a meeting, Let's go pick them 293 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:33.720 up. Yeah. Our big thing here, which I miss a lot is 294 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:40.640 uh was Saturday Night Live at Munson the Open Talk. I missed that a 295 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:45.799 lot, which yeah, I mean they try to do it, but it's 296 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:48.599 not the same as it was, no, because you could you know, 297 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:55.720 you going to the hospital and you're bringing people down from the hospital who are 298 00:21:55.759 --> 00:22:03.240 suffering from this disease whichever it is. You got people from rehabs and Taikowski 299 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:11.519 and Phoenix, and I mean there's over hundred and fifty people and one one 300 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:15.400 night listen to the message and that, you know, and then everybody starts 301 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:19.160 showing up every Saturday, and you start to get recognized. You know, 302 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:23.160 people start saying noticing you and like, hey, good to see you again, 303 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:30.200 or how you been or was John right? Or there's nothing better than 304 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:34.400 somebody remembering you, you know, just to make you feel that much better 305 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:41.519 about yourself. But that was a good time that I missed those days. 306 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:44.559 I've heard of it, but I've never actually been there in person. And 307 00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:52.440 that COVID kill that, No, they had some well so then there was 308 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:56.319 some mishaps, you know, some abuse of the property. So then we 309 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:03.160 got moved to the cancer Center. But then yeah, COVID, that was 310 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:07.559 it because I was supposed to do an open talk at the cancer Center when 311 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.519 they moved over there for my five years. But March seventeenth was when they 312 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:18.440 twenty twenty was when they X made they shut down the meetings, and I 313 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:23.880 remember that being just like they shut down AA, that being a big thing. 314 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:27.599 Yes, and so then we ended up having it. But we always 315 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:30.720 broke the COVID rule at our house. We always had a bunch of people 316 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:33.640 over. Oh yeah, I mean if we were going to get ticketed, 317 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:40.000 we were getting ticketed big because we had at least thirty forty people outside beach 318 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:42.960 chairs. You know, we're doing it, UFC fights, you name it. 319 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:47.720 Come on over the smokers. So you know, I'm in an alcoholic 320 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:51.200 and an addict dude that cannot be alone for very long. You know what 321 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:53.319 I'm saying, like, Oh, you can't make it to a meeting, 322 00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:56.839 Let's have a meeting here. I got a coffee pot. You know, 323 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:02.839 I like that stuff. I mean it's that simple. Yeah, it's that 324 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:10.559 simple, you know, to get COVID three times. Yeah, but you 325 00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:15.720 know what it was worth it. It was worth every single every single case 326 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:21.160 of COVID that I got, because you know what I guarantee going back out, 327 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:23.480 you know, I guarantee there were simple I mean people who got sober 328 00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:29.480 during COVID. My hat goes off to you guys, because I would have 329 00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:34.000 used that. I would have ran with that. I mean, so people 330 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:40.559 who made it through COVID sober, you're the real MVP. But we didn't 331 00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:45.799 get COVID until twenty We got it three times in twenty twenty three. I 332 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:49.440 think it was Wow. Yeah, we don't even talk about all that. 333 00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:53.599 Well, I'm just saying that's when we got COVID. We made it healthy, 334 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:57.799 or we made it through all of that and then nope, there's only 335 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:02.240 the first time we had it together and we were dead in the bed. 336 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:07.200 And then then I had it separate, and then Jesse had it separate. 337 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:11.200 Oh, and then I just had it this past Christmas. But that was 338 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:15.640 like I felt like a sore throat and a running nose for two days. 339 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:18.119 I mean, we're a professional. Now you've had it three times, so 340 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:22.640 it's like you get COVID. It's kind of like just the simples and a 341 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.960 cough. You know. I just never went away, right, Yeah, 342 00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:30.160 Yeah, I kept getting from my wife and got it from her job. 343 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:36.079 Yeah, they were masks. Nazis. There is what they the term, 344 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:37.839 this is what they call them. Because I got to wear your mask, 345 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:41.200 got to wear your mask? How the hell am I getting COVID? Then? 346 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.319 Right in the same way I brought it home from work. Yeah all 347 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.880 the time. I don't know. They're trying to kill us. Mm hmm. 348 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:53.440 Yeah, sober Life insurance is up to date. They don't need us 349 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:56.480 anymore. She's hanging out the house of who has COVID? You okay, 350 00:25:56.519 --> 00:26:04.119 come here, give me a kiss, Honny, cough on me. Yeah, 351 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:07.880 if it feinish and like people cough on me, just do it. 352 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:12.920 How do you keep coughing on me when I'm kissing? Damn it? You 353 00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:18.759 wake up and she's just like hovering over you, Just yeah, what are 354 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:29.119 you doing on me? Just like, no, we're not very good people 355 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:33.119 when we're sick. So no, I'm the worst. I'm the worst. 356 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:37.000 I think I got the worst sickness. Something from Africa, Like to get 357 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:41.319 away from me. He was so sick. And then my wife's like stop 358 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:45.680 being a little baby. She's all working and doing her damn just like get 359 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.200 away from me. I just do him with will. That's what I was 360 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.519 doing tomor. He was like, you can't be drinking all that, you 361 00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:53.000 know, blah blah blah. And I'm like, I drink it just to 362 00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:56.839 go to sleep because I didn't want to be alive, you know, like, 363 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.359 oh that's what my wife does to me. And she's like, god 364 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:03.000 that you want the alcohol one of the one. I'm like, I don't 365 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:04.480 care. It was like that's not enough alcohol in there to get me drunk. 366 00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:07.960 Like, trust me, I'm trying to go sleep, have COVID and 367 00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:11.640 I don't care what what what everyone's on sale. Whatever I have on the 368 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.759 shelf sounds good to me as long as it says nighttime. Let's run with 369 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.400 it. Yeah, you know, like I don't really That green one was 370 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.559 horrible. Oh my work good though, I don't care. It worked good 371 00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:26.440 though, if you can get it down. I got it down no problem. 372 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:32.480 Then mine kept coming out. But the backside yeah yeah, like you 373 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:37.480 be sitting there Google, Oh we need be like blow it up. Thanks 374 00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:41.599 Green night, Quill. That was horrible. Imagine getting COVID in a camper. 375 00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:51.039 I got COVID in a camper and the toilet was broke. Who nope, 376 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:57.039 so bad? Wow? Yeah, so you and Mitch got something common 377 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:06.960 obviously. Yeah. Yeah, Jimmy here his story. I think he told 378 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.839 us once. Yeah, yeah, because the bear went back to the scene. 379 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.519 Yeah yeah, Mitch has a bear video and you can watch it at 380 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:21.960 two seventeen recovery dot com. That explains it all, same scene and everything 381 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:27.599 time. The bear mascot. Mitch is a bear talker. He's a bear 382 00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:36.960 whisper. Sorry. Yeah, that's a pretty good video. Whoa everyone those 383 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:45.680 places haunted. My just got pushed. I just fell into my desk. 384 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.680 So you guys like the studio though, Oh yeah, our first guess in 385 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:53.079 the North studio. Yeah, you feel like you're straight up vip in here. 386 00:28:55.279 --> 00:29:02.920 I'm not sure of sun change subjects. I know where Parker gets his 387 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.440 his wobbles from. I'll tell you that right now. You just rolled off 388 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.920 the mat. I was pushed off the mat. Pushed. Yeah, the 389 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.039 cat did it on the that was the bear ghost. Yeah, this is 390 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:19.279 a burial ground anyways. The lights here down here that you have going on, 391 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:25.160 I like the blue I like on the desk lights. You get a 392 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:27.680 nice little fireplace here. Yeah. Martie gives me help for it. She's 393 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:32.000 just like and yesterday, She's like I don't know. I mean it was 394 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:34.400 Today's I don't think you're some kind of bachelor or something like, why would 395 00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:38.000 I have to be a bachelor have cool things? Oh, I think it's 396 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:42.480 very well organized. Up. Okay, I like it. It looks good. 397 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:45.480 Well, thanks guys, clean, I appreciate it. You know, 398 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:51.880 I got the I think your whole house looks amazing. Panels and it's pretty 399 00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:56.039 cool. And you guys, I really like your art. Yeah, thank 400 00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:57.160 you. The new piece of art on the wall. Oh do you talking 401 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:02.480 about the fur of fire? Yeah? Oh that is nice and I think 402 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.240 it works great. Yes, it's not right now you can't hear it. 403 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:07.079 No, No, it's very nice. And even if it did smell like 404 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.599 box, it doesn't now because we're used to it. So no, I 405 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:17.359 didn't smell that at all, so it's ticketed. Nope, still can't smell 406 00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:19.039 it, so we're used to it now. It's good. I didn't smell 407 00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:25.720 it once coming into your house. Now, came through the front door and 408 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.079 nothing, and you know you had cats. Serious, I don't smell it 409 00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:37.640 at all. It's working. I don't know, hopefully it is because it's 410 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:42.799 working. It was kind of like pretty expensive one I think it was working 411 00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:48.599 great. Yeah, it smells good. We got air air purifier. Ours 412 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.759 is low. It's like a white noise thing you have outside your office to 413 00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:55.559 drawn people so they can't hear what you're saying behind the door. Yeah, 414 00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:59.000 well we have one like that. It's a shark or something. I think. 415 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.519 I know they make vacuums, but I think that's a shark. And 416 00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.319 if I were to vape in the same room with it, two seconds later, 417 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:12.440 it goes from blue to like red and it it just sucks everything right 418 00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:15.039 out of the room. Well that's kind of nice. Yeah, but this 419 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:22.960 is kind of loud. Yeah yeah, ours is okay, something's getting purified. 420 00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.759 But some of them you can buy are just junk. Like we had 421 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:29.880 this one that we bought. We put it in the cat room and all 422 00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:33.480 it did was just it took the air in and it just blew it all 423 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:37.720 over the room. So yeah, yeah, yeah, that one is. 424 00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.759 We haven't even thrown it away. We're just we're so disgusted by it. 425 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:48.359 It's in the storage room, just regifted. Yeah yeah, yeah, but 426 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:51.839 that's a that's a good white elephant. There. You go, mom, 427 00:31:52.960 --> 00:32:00.400 use purifier, plug it in and it'll really freshen up your place. That's 428 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:09.680 cat litter, that's understand. Yeah, it's by Riffer Breeze by Justin Burke. 429 00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:21.400 Frabas by Justin Burke would be his new cologne, Got Fabulous and Frabas 430 00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:31.519 Frebez Frebaz. Yeah. I could see the commercials too, just looking at 431 00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:37.839 the camera. Have you seen his video then? No? No, his 432 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:43.160 fabulous video. You saw Minch's bear video, but you didn't see Justin's fabulous 433 00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:46.160 video. Oh I have no, I have not. We're breaking. We're 434 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:52.119 getting Essee Moore into this and listening and yes, I'm slow, and the 435 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:55.440 more that he's listed the words, laughing, and then he's like putting together 436 00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:00.359 all this stuff right, so yeah, yeah, it's good, it's good. 437 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:05.000 We got to let Jesse just arrive on his own time and then once 438 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:08.440 he's there, then he's all in. So yeah, I'm a slow burn. 439 00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:12.720 And then it's off to the races kind of thing, like he's all 440 00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:16.240 in now, especially because he did not know what you had in the back 441 00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:21.440 of your car today and then boom he was like, oh yeah that's my 442 00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:25.519 man right there. Oh yeah, stalking Milingo Birst real confused. He's like 443 00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:32.799 I need your help, all right, man, my car, your car 444 00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:36.680 kind of thing, you know, it's on the car. I'm like, 445 00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:37.680 all right, cool, walk out of the car. I'm like, what 446 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:42.559 could possibly be in here that he needs my help with? And then of 447 00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:46.319 course, you know, it's just like opens all nice. It's like a 448 00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:52.240 movie, you know, bam boom boom, boom bump, sixty five inches 449 00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:57.720 a love brand new TV. I'm like, that's right, Oh yeah, 450 00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:00.839 right up, my alley, help you with that. What did you think 451 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:06.480 following us to your house from dinner? Is there any thoughts really giggling or 452 00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:13.199 anything? I don't think so. Were you just praying that a couch didn't 453 00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:17.079 come out at you? Was like, hope, Like they were cool with 454 00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:20.960 that couch getting wet, and I was like, well, I'm pretty sure 455 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.199 they are. I think they talked about it at dinner, like they're getting 456 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:29.719 rid of it. So tomorrow. Yeah, I told to my wife I 457 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:34.800 was getting ready for the Fall Color tour. Three people at a time. 458 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.679 Boy, it's gonna be a good ride. Yeah. They have a pickup 459 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:38.519 truck. In the back of their truck, they have this couch. But 460 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:45.480 you guys have said that you've got new sitting recliners. Yeah, new sitting 461 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:50.480 options, and you got some nice recliners. So you getting rid of this 462 00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:53.000 couch and you know, you just happened to have it back of the truck. 463 00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:58.079 It's raining out here in Michigan's lay and Favorise City, so we just 464 00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:02.760 tried to fit in a little bit. Huh. You never know when the 465 00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:07.480 smoker stole up, Okay, I was like, the gas casts open to 466 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.400 should tell matter. Maybe that's just something they're doing. Now, that's a 467 00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:14.760 that's a gas gas saving mold. It kind of comes out a little bit 468 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.320 to get some wings, to get some wings. Yeah, that's good, 469 00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:22.119 that's good. Yeah. And then my wife almost had a tree in the 470 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:27.039 parking lot today. That was scary. It's just there, it's just turning 471 00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:30.920 the road a tree. Yeah. Yeah, And I can only imagine at 472 00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:35.159 night time because there ain't no street lights up here. You just like, 473 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:39.360 what was that? That's a tree on the road. Yep. It has 474 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.880 a tiny little reflector on it. It's gonna be too late by the time 475 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:47.159 you notice that reflector. Well, especially because you know, I don't think 476 00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:50.840 I think out of all of us, we might have some twenty twenty vision 477 00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:54.519 here no, I'm real close. I mean I probably take us down a 478 00:35:54.559 --> 00:36:01.519 lot, so, yeah, but you're blind. I can see I can 479 00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:07.639 see perfect close about seven eight feet away, and I'm like, who are 480 00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.599 you? And my wife? Can any one of us see far away? 481 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:17.559 No? No, don't ask me. I'm negative point negative three point five. 482 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:22.000 But you knows. The TVs keep getting bigger, bigger, and we 483 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.960 keep I'm like, we did a bigg one over here, you scoot that 484 00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.639 closer, and she's like, you don't need a bigger one. I was 485 00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.360 today when I was looking about the tea and I'm like, but she would 486 00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:36.719 kill me if I replaced that one, because that one was like, nope, 487 00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:38.159 that's the one for a couple of years. And so I'm like, 488 00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:42.880 okay, cool, fair game on that one. The one upstairs our bedroom. 489 00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.920 Fair game, right, because that one's still on that wall, so 490 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:49.760 that one's not getting replaced for an other year. Yeah. I respect that 491 00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:54.159 my wife allows me to get new TVs. She knows it's important to me. 492 00:36:54.599 --> 00:37:00.440 So we always just keep rotating. But we can't. We don't really, 493 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:04.800 we can't get any bigger than the one we have. Now, Oh 494 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.639 sure we could, that's that's yeah. We can always go bigger. Just 495 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:12.119 move stuff out of the way. Yeah, we just got to make sure 496 00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:16.039 we have a wall long enough. Is the is the Yeah, that wall 497 00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:20.880 right there. I get one hundred and twenty easy all day, And that's 498 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:22.719 what would be perfect that. I mean, eighty five is going to look 499 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:27.800 great there because he's eighty five big enough. I mean, is it ever 500 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.199 going to get big enough? I mean, once you go eighty five, 501 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:34.119 you're not going to go back down to a fifty five ever again except for 502 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.159 in the office, Well that's forty eight, I think. I mean that's 503 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.480 different though. Yeah, you know, but but over there in the Winfield 504 00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:44.360 Plex, which is right right next to the office, right, because I 505 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.119 mean like from here, it just looks like a normal TV, right. 506 00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:51.480 You can't afford season tickets anymore, you might as well buy the TV so 507 00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:54.960 you feel like you're a season ticket holder. That's how I look at it. 508 00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:58.920 Yeah, And it's just it just doesn't work. Like I had to 509 00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:01.280 put my glasses on. I don't like watching movies in my glasses. I 510 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:06.280 man, And this was months ago, and it was like a Julia Roberts 511 00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:09.159 movie and I was like, WHOA. I guess all the wrinkles because I 512 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:13.400 had just got a new prescription, which I now have a new new prescription. 513 00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.239 Zone that's how my eyes are going. So I'm just like, we 514 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:19.599 gotta get closer, or we gotta get bigger. Yeah, But the problem 515 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.280 is, like some of them bigger ones are like one hundred inches or whatever. 516 00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:27.000 They're not the O LEDs, right, So why are they going to 517 00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.360 start making those bigger? Right? So maybe they do. They're like thirty 518 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.559 grand or something. Yeah, stupid, don't make one that big. As 519 00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:37.960 soon as you buy one that big, well, I'm just going to spend 520 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.760 thirty grand out of it, you know. No. I always wait, 521 00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.880 then you can get you a high sense one hundred and twenty inch or for 522 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:45.920 like three ninety nine, right, And I'm like, whoa, No, 523 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:51.320 I'm not going to fall for that one again. Like my next one will 524 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:54.000 be an eight k TV. I'm just waiting a little bit because there's no 525 00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:59.000 reason for me to jump to the eight k right now. Four K is 526 00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.880 doing just fine, and they're cheaper. Remember back in the day when we 527 00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:08.199 had the boob tube, like those things break yourself trying to move those things. 528 00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:14.519 I don't know how we used to do that. Got thirty two. 529 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:19.000 I ain't helping you move dogs. Sorry. And then you got those people 530 00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:22.480 that had the the ones that were just like that big ass unit and they 531 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.760 were just flat. They weren't you couldn't see nothing. I'm like, but 532 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:30.239 people thought that was the shoot. And those people are so excited looking them 533 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:35.119 off flat screen. Oh yeah, yeah, dude, that's like an entertainment 534 00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.719 center in itself, like, oh yeah, you help me move it. 535 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:42.960 We had a guy speaking at entertainment centers, what about just moving to entertainment 536 00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:49.159 center? Not Yeah, I feel like we got hoaxed in that, you 537 00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:55.440 know me, entertainment centers we bought in our times, ben and now hanging 538 00:39:55.440 --> 00:40:01.000 on the wall, yeah, on the wall, or what is that thing 539 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:05.519 over there I have that's holding up the sound bar, a little shell or 540 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.159 something, but it's perfect. Yeah yeah, but it's not entertainment's center. 541 00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:14.639 A big old wooden thing made of real solid oak that has the hole in 542 00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:17.920 it to put the big old built by the Amish stood no knock on I 543 00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:21.800 real hard. I'm like, fun, that's heavy looking. Yeah yeah it 544 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:25.360 is. Ship Yeah three ninety nine, I have a delivered body amiss show 545 00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:28.760 and over here in about two weeks. They're like, damn, come on 546 00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:34.000 all the way from Indiana. No, Pennsylvania. But it's real solid, 547 00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.440 like damn it man. Yeah, and I get it there and then you 548 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:42.239 get kicked out and you gotta move. Yo, Can you come help me 549 00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.000 move? Yeah? Most of the time, I just love myself. There. 550 00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:53.079 I forgot to tell you aboupstairs. Yeah, Oh, we don't do 551 00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:58.159 stairs. No, come on, Jimsiah, let's get out of here. 552 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:09.159 Got they really peeled out of here. They were gone. I'm like, 553 00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:14.239 get them and you call animal control and you report them for abuse and animals 554 00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.960 or whatever you call them police. These people around here just being the ship 555 00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:21.199 out of this horse man. Oh, there these funny hats on the ship. 556 00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.320 They talked weird a little bit. Ask I bet if you pull them 557 00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:29.639 over, they won't give you no ID. They old enough to drive, 558 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.599 they said, cops can't. Cops can't mess with me. So they said, 559 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:43.280 because they don't pay taxes. Just kidding. I homage people. Yeah, 560 00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:45.320 I don't really know them, but I do. They work hard. 561 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:52.920 They Parker's dresser. They're made by homage people. Nice. Yeah, because 562 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:57.800 we're looking at it and it's like, look like we're gonna get something like 563 00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:05.920 one hundred bucks off Amazon, right we could or are we going to get 564 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.000 some for a couple of hundred more dollars or however much it was, I 565 00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:12.480 can't remember. But this is something he's going to take with them, you 566 00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:14.719 know, Like that's what's the money we bought him. Like, this is 567 00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:19.000 something he's gonna move out with. Like this stuff is really quality and it 568 00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.440 might have some stickers on it or some dumb shit, but I'd be like, 569 00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.800 that's what you did when you were four, it's yours. Take it 570 00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:30.039 with you, and I think that's worth the investment, then, you know 571 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:34.360 what I mean, that's what we do for the little man. Yeah, 572 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:39.000 he wasn't even here yet. Yeah, having kids is weird. Having eight 573 00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:43.480 kids weird. I'm all, like kids, still, it's just one, 574 00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:46.400 but still, it's it's a life change. It's a life changing event that 575 00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:51.280 is evolving. Right. And I don't remember if I already said it in 576 00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:55.079 this podcast, or if there was one before but the one that would do 577 00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:59.079 it in there or anything, But when she was talking about how I want 578 00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:01.800 to Parker to grow up, but I do, and it's for a selfish 579 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:04.800 reason, just for the fact that I want him to be too. I 580 00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:07.599 want him to love Daddy like right now. Sure, Mommy is his source, 581 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:12.440 man. Yeah, she loves him to death man, and I do 582 00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:14.880 too, But she has that bond, you know, she feeds him, 583 00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:17.519 she keeps him alive. He knows that. And like this morning, I 584 00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:21.480 woke up and I rolled over and I looked and she was sleeping and he 585 00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:23.039 was on her chest and he was just sleeping. He just looked so comfortable, 586 00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:25.199 both of them did. And I was just like oh, and I 587 00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:29.559 stared at Hi for about ten minutes. I started like going, hey, 588 00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.599 girl, just put a little baby over there. There needs some love. 589 00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:37.079 Not just kidding sort of but not really. But but I did take that 590 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.079 ten minutes in though, to just be like wow, like this is this 591 00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:45.239 is my family, Like this is amazing and God is so good. And 592 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:49.000 even though we had to go through the dark, yeah, and we had 593 00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:52.039 hit them bottoms and we had to feel all that pain, it was worth 594 00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:55.079 every minute of it. And I wouldn't change it for the world. It 595 00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:59.800 makes me appreciate what I have today. And I'm not just talking about diabetes 596 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:04.239 up either. I'm just talking about like just in life in general, relationships, 597 00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.599 friends, having people over to the house, you know, doing a 598 00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:10.480 podcast in the Ghoals studio. You know, like it's just just little stuff, 599 00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:17.599 you know, going to have pizza and that's your hard work and that 600 00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:24.920 your goals that you you wanted one day are it worked hard and they're coming 601 00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:30.559 true for you. Marnie too, about to show you something. So this 602 00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:35.559 was something that my therapist and ment Harmer was like, you're in there. 603 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.400 I want you to write some goals now, right, five things that you 604 00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:42.920 want to achieve with in a year. And of course you won't be able 605 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:47.360 to read it. Oh you might be able to, but like five things 606 00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:53.079 you want and you know how you're going to get there and the ways that 607 00:44:53.159 --> 00:45:00.960 I remained sober in the past. And so I wrote on a piece of 608 00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:06.079 paper and I have it framed now and it's just just sitting in the the 609 00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:12.199 desk here. But man, I don't have my phone to get any more 610 00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:16.079 light. Sorry, I just hand or so she can't read because there's there's 611 00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:20.119 like blue lights and stuff in the studio, so you can't really read anything 612 00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:23.559 on that. Cool. That's that's a good look back, right there is 613 00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:28.719 a good healthy reminder and I'm you know, I deframed it and there's like 614 00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:31.400 five things I want to accomplish in a year, you know, and I 615 00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:36.719 put on there, I wanted to find a woman worth my love and I 616 00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:38.599 wasn't going to settle and I want someone to look going to love me like 617 00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:43.440 I love them, and you know, I have kids. And the therapist 618 00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:45.519 that was in the room with me because my therapists had me at Harbor, 619 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:47.079 I made her call there, which I'm sure she didn't like. Probably I 620 00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:52.559 sheldn't like me. She's like, oh, you might be rushing it there, 621 00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:52.719 you know, And I'm like, no, no, no, I'm 622 00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.519 just saying, like I know what I want in the future. I'm not 623 00:45:55.519 --> 00:46:00.280 going to settle for someone. Like if the woman is not someone I want 624 00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.880 to settle down with or think about having children with, I'm not going to 625 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:07.360 waste my time. Yeah. I like it. I mean I like it, 626 00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:09.639 you know. I mean you knew what you wanted. I mean, 627 00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:15.679 that's that's great. And you know, Marnie was I mean, Parker's are 628 00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:21.239 a little miracle baby, really and it got to the point where it's like, 629 00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:22.119 all right, we might not have children. I was like, all 630 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:24.159 right, that's cool. We got three cats. You know, like I 631 00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:28.639 still found the woman of my dreams. Yes, you know, my soulmate. 632 00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:31.519 Yes, so you know, like I was cool either way, but 633 00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:36.519 you know the fact that we were blessed with little Parker was just you know, 634 00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.639 cherry on top. You know. It's like God's good. Yeah, 635 00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:44.079 you know, it just keeps getting better, it really does, you know. 636 00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:50.199 And again it's kind of like that whole don't leave before the miracle happens, 637 00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:52.679 yeah, because they just keep happening. We don't know when, but 638 00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:58.679 it happens. It does, it does happen. The promises are true, 639 00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:02.079 and that's one thing about a love the promises. Yea. And if there's 640 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:06.440 someone struggling right now, I mean they're probably not listening to this podcast, 641 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.400 and that's cool. I get it. I wouldn't have either. But if 642 00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:14.800 a loved one of yours or whoever, you know, don't give up on 643 00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:19.920 them. It's a process. It takes time. It's it's not like a 644 00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:25.280 debate. No, it's it's not gonna it's a marathon. It's not a 645 00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:31.239 race, yeah it's but it's it can be done. And we're proof of 646 00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:35.800 that, all four of us, and Marnie's not on the podcast anymore. 647 00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:39.639 She took Parker upstairs because he was getting fussy. But she'll tell you too. 648 00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:45.360 You know, it's just don't give up, keep doing it and when 649 00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:50.079 it all clicks, it is the best feeling ever when you can like put 650 00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.639 it all together and you can realize, like this is going pretty well. 651 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:58.079 But anyway, I think you guys, I have to go. I think 652 00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.000 I have a kid to pick up. Yeah, and blowing on my phone. 653 00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:05.400 But I mean, you know, we wait for her to go to 654 00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:09.119 work. We stop, our plans go away for us. Well, we'll 655 00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:14.199 probably have to do the TV SM other time though, Okay, let us 656 00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.840 go. Jesse spends the night where I can come back and get him. 657 00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.960 Oh yeah, we do that too. So if you want to get it 658 00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:31.199 up, that's gonna be a drop the TV hung up on the wall before 659 00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:36.320 you're left to do it by yourself because your wife said no, because my 660 00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:40.119 wife said no. Dilaplicated. All right, we'll land on that. But 661 00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:45.039 thanks, thanks guys for come bout the studio. Yeah tonight, it's a 662 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:46.360 lot of fun and we'll talk. We'll do this again sometime. It was 663 00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:52.119 fun. Thank you. Thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery podcast. 664 00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.920 Listen to over nine hundred episodes on the two seventeen Recovery app that's free in 665 00:48:55.960 --> 00:49:04.480 your app store or online at two seventeen recovery dot com m