1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,200 And it hits me, Oh my gosh, this is that triangle. You 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,679 know, there's explanation for everything that occurred in the Randalchamparstent. It doesn't involve 3 00:00:07,839 --> 00:00:12,759 aliens at all. It was completely silent. It comes right over our heads. 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,519 It's so classic Gli Sorcier. Really standing in the cleary, he turned 5 00:00:17,519 --> 00:00:20,079 over to my father and held his hand, and he looked in his eyes 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:28,199 and said, we're not alone. Welcome to podcast UFO for our live show. 7 00:00:28,679 --> 00:00:33,119 We're live every Wednesday at eight pm Eastern Standard Time on the Dark Matter 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:40,000 Radio Network. Please remember to visit the website podcastufo dot com for past episodes, 9 00:00:40,119 --> 00:00:44,359 blogs and forums. 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If you watch 45 00:03:24,759 --> 00:03:28,800 the super Bowl, you saw the wonderful weather we're having here in Arizona. 46 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,639 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So I know we got a lot to 47 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,159 cover, so let's roll right into it, all right. Yeah. Not 48 00:03:36,199 --> 00:03:38,439 only is the conference keeping me super busy, but lots of UFO news, 49 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:42,520 a ton of it. So of course a lot of people probably saw that 50 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:46,280 John Greenwald had to take down those blue Book files that you and I have 51 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,479 been speaking about so often. Some people have claimed that John Greenwald stole these 52 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,360 files from Bold three. Not true whatsoever. Those people, many of them 53 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,599 know the truth, are just lying. I think some people have a personal 54 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,919 grudge against John for whatever reason. But regardless, what happened is most of 55 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:09,080 those files did come from a company called Fold three, and it was a 56 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,919 third party who downloaded all of those files and provided them to UFO researchers to 57 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,120 post, and John Greenwall was able to turn them into PDFs and post them, 58 00:04:17,319 --> 00:04:21,079 but he also posted his personal files that he had received a blue Book 59 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,720 as well. However, fold three came and said, due to the Digital 60 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:30,800 Copyright Millennium Act, we own those and take them down. And it's kind 61 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,079 of like a case of you know, John Greenwall doesn't have the money to 62 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:41,000 pay lawyers to fight them, so he, unfortunately for now, had to 63 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,120 take those down. Many many people are disappointed that fold three is claiming digital 64 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,639 copyright over documents that are open to the public, and so this is really 65 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:55,920 frustrating, and I know there are a lot of people fighting this and I 66 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,879 have a feeling that we have not heard the end of this, and I 67 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,680 don't think Full three is going to win a long run on this one. 68 00:05:00,959 --> 00:05:05,839 Yeah. Yes, I've been getting some you know, negative emails about this 69 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:12,639 and contact. So yeah, I'm just not even going to talk about it, 70 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,040 and just so we'll see what happens. Oh, you will see. 71 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,759 Yeah, but let's well, let me just tell you something. I've had 72 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:24,079 a couple of weeks of grief because we've been talking about this of Yeah, 73 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,360 but you know what, there's a lot of trollers out there, and you 74 00:05:28,399 --> 00:05:31,920 know, I've always felt I can't let these small minority of people stop me 75 00:05:31,959 --> 00:05:36,600 from bringing this information to the masses, and that thousands of people who are 76 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:41,480 dying for this information and love it, and no doubt, the positive feedback 77 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,160 has by far overwhelmed the negative feedback that is out there, even though those 78 00:05:46,199 --> 00:05:49,879 couple of negative people are very loud. Yes, you know, the one 79 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:55,000 thing I do say about this whole situation, and I may have said it 80 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,120 before, is that I think it's just going to cause more people to have 81 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:01,959 more awareness. And so I don't think it's you know, a good bad 82 00:06:02,079 --> 00:06:06,360 or in different I think it's good publicity. Yeah, there's been an abundance 83 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:13,240 of stories, local newspapers running stories about local UFO cases from those files. 84 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,519 So there's a lot of education that has gone on. Yeah, good stuff. 85 00:06:16,759 --> 00:06:20,319 So what else is happening a lot? So this is a cool story. 86 00:06:20,399 --> 00:06:25,120 This is about a conference, a small gathering that's going to go on 87 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,600 in Warminster in the UK, and it's the fiftieth anniversary of a UFO called 88 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,639 the Thing. And you know, that doesn't sound like such an exciting story 89 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:41,839 except for when you read the details of this story. So it's a really 90 00:06:41,959 --> 00:06:47,360 interesting case that started in Christmas Day of nineteen sixty four when this housewife was 91 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:53,160 walking to church and she heard these strange crackling sounds and stuff like that in 92 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,480 the town of Warminster. The news ran it and it turned out other people 93 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,240 had heard it. There were several witness is that heard this thing, and 94 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:05,040 there was a UFO siding, and over the next few months especially, there 95 00:07:05,079 --> 00:07:12,439 were like hundreds and hundreds of UFO sidings and people hearing this weird sound in 96 00:07:12,519 --> 00:07:18,480 Warminster. They even dubbed this UFO which they believe that the sounds were coming 97 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:24,439 from the thing, and Warminster for years, really up until this day has 98 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,480 been known as a UFO hotspot because of all of this activity. There's been 99 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,639 several documentaries that have been made on the whole thing, and it's a really 100 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:39,040 really interesting case. So the fiftieth anniversary actually started, you know, pretty 101 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,680 much in January, because the stories really came out in January of nineteen sixty 102 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,199 five. But it's a really cool case that I wanted to share with you 103 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,079 and your listeners because it's worth taking a look at. And there is an 104 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:55,319 interesting photograph that someone took of a UFO during this period of time. Yes, 105 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,439 way back when I had Kevin Goodman on to talk about this, he's 106 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:05,800 a great guy and boom, Unfortunately, now that I have the show in 107 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:11,439 the evening, it's just too late for me to have guests on from the 108 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,800 UK and Europe. But yeah, Kevin Goodman was a big researcher in that. 109 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:20,000 Yeah, I'll have to talk to him because that's right, and I 110 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:22,959 talk about him in this story. He's the one who's putting on this conference 111 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,639 actually, and I would love to talk to him, and because it is 112 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,240 a great case, I really like it. I will sell you his contact 113 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:41,039 information perfect good yeah, she p sister. Okay, another really cooling is 114 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:46,240 I love this one. We've talked about this before. The Buckingham Center for 115 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:52,960 Astrobiology. It's this group of astrobiologists at the Universities of Buckingham and Sheffield in 116 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,799 England. They also work with the University of Alabama and some other astrobiologists on 117 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,399 this side. But these are some scientists who believe they have several examples of 118 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:09,720 microbial life essentially found in meteorites, mostly from Mars. So these guys are 119 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:15,320 convinced they've already found extraterrestrial life. What's interesting is one of them, the 120 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:22,960 team lead, has been talked to Astrobiology magazine about this orb, this metallic 121 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:26,639 orb that they found. They sent a balloon up into the stratosphere and we 122 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,240 talked about this a couple months ago. And this balloon opened up and grabbed 123 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,639 some material from the stratosphere and closed up, and then they examined it and 124 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,480 they found something called the Dragon particle, which is they believe is a microbe 125 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,440 from space, probably even something that floats in space, kind of like bacteria 126 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,919 floating around in space. You know, there have been studies to show that 127 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:52,240 bacteria can survive in space, so it's possible, and this is just one 128 00:09:52,279 --> 00:09:58,039 of the extraterrestrial evidence that they feel they have. However, the balloon when 129 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:03,799 they examined it, had a little metallic orb the size of a hair that 130 00:10:03,879 --> 00:10:09,440 they that made an impact that they believe was from space as well. It 131 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:16,279 has biological filaments on the outside of it, and on the inside they say 132 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,960 it's it has a gooey biological material that is oozing out of it, and 133 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,120 you can see this microscope picture that I've put up there and you can see 134 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:31,240 this oozing material coming out of it. And they feel that not only is 135 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:37,399 this further evidence of life from space, but they also feel that this orb 136 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:43,159 could have been something called direct pan spermia. So panspermia is something this group 137 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,879 kind of one of the scientists of this group coined the phrase, which is 138 00:10:48,919 --> 00:10:52,720 the idea that life is abundant and it travels on meteorites and comets and kind 139 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,480 of rains down on the planet and that's how life came here from elsewhere. 140 00:10:56,759 --> 00:11:03,120 But directed panspermia is at civilizations directly seating life on other planets kind of like 141 00:11:03,159 --> 00:11:07,080 the movie Prometheus. So they're saying this ORB could have been sent here to 142 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,600 see life or viruses or something like that. They admit it would be difficult, 143 00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:15,799 if not impossible, to prove it, but it is a theory that 144 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,879 they're putting out there. But here again, this group's believe they've found even 145 00:11:20,919 --> 00:11:26,519 more evidence of extraterrestural life. Amazing. You know, just like Jason said, 146 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,879 this is going to be the year. I really think it is. 147 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,159 Yeah, it may be the year. And you know what's cool about this 148 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:41,559 too is that even though they're kind of considered they are legitimate scientists, but 149 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:46,279 they are considered a little fringe. However, NASA is repeating their study. 150 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,720 NASA is going to also send a balloon into the stratosphere to see if it 151 00:11:50,759 --> 00:11:58,559 can get microbes as well. Well, that's real exciting news. Now do 152 00:11:58,639 --> 00:12:01,440 we have another story? Who said, no, that's not it, buddy, 153 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:07,639 Speaking of exciting news, there's more. Now that these are both roswell 154 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,399 stories, this first one is not as exciting. This is really regarding a 155 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:18,360 video that a Australian New Zealand magazine called Uncensored has released that they say is 156 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,200 they're the first ones to have this, and they've been able to prove that 157 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,480 this video shows a Roswell alien being collected by the Air Force. Yeah, 158 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:30,960 well, it's not a new video. It's actually been around for many, 159 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:37,639 many years. It's part of the Roswell Dissection Autopsy alien video that was out 160 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:43,399 in the mid nineties that has since been debunked, where the guy Race Antilly 161 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,320 says, oh, yeah, well that isn't real, but I did see 162 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,960 a real video and I made this to look like the real video. It 163 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,240 also this clip in particular, which is, you know, the best produced 164 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,080 clip because there's more actors kind of running around, and it is a very 165 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:03,919 well produced little clip that looks legitimate. It was actually also part of a 166 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:11,960 movie called Alien Autopsy where these committee comedians kind of did a movie that kind 167 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,159 of mirrored what really happened there and what would you do if you had real 168 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,639 alien video kind of thing. But this so this is just a rehash of 169 00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:24,440 some old stuff. These guys for some reason, I guess, just for 170 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,159 marketing purposes, they're saying that it's the first time it's been out there. 171 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Maybe they don't know, maybe they were told that by whoever gave it to 172 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,679 him. But with a little bit of research, they could have found that 173 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:39,000 this video has been out for a while. However, new evidence of roswell 174 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,679 aliens and photographs of roswell aliens was promised to be released by a man named 175 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:50,399 Tom Carrey, who in November told American University in a panel you know, 176 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:56,840 with Leslie Kane and some other UFO researchers that he had the smoking gun. 177 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:03,120 He had photos of an alien, but he couldn't show him yet. Well, 178 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,559 he has coupled up with his research partners Don Schmidt, but he has 179 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:13,080 partnered up. They have partnered up with Jime Moussan and Hime Musson announced today 180 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:20,240 in an online press conference that May fifth at the National Auditorium in Mexico City, 181 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,720 they're going to release these pictures and show them to the world, and 182 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,320 they told us a lot. They showed a lot of pictures in some videos 183 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,480 that they posted on YouTube today as part of his press conference, and gave 184 00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:37,679 a lot more information about these photographs. Essentially, there was a woman who 185 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:45,480 was cleaning up a home of this deceased couple and she found a box of 186 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:50,120 photographs and they were preparing it for an estate sale. These were part of 187 00:14:50,159 --> 00:14:52,759 the things. They wanted her to throw away, but she decided to keep 188 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:56,960 them. This is the nineteen eighty nine. Ten years later, she picks 189 00:14:56,039 --> 00:15:00,480 up the box and she looks and she sees pictures at Dwight Ayey and how 190 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,120 are Clark Gables, some famous people, and she thinks, wow, these 191 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,120 are really cool. Well, the bottom of the box is, you know, 192 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,480 damaged by water. It starts to fall apart. She sees that there 193 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:15,320 are some slides that are wrapped up. Carefully opens them up and there's two 194 00:15:15,399 --> 00:15:20,039 slides there that look like an alien. A friend of the family said he 195 00:15:20,159 --> 00:15:22,919 saw them, and he said, yeah, that she You know, if 196 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,519 you look at him, most people say, hey, those are aliens because 197 00:15:26,519 --> 00:15:31,919 they look like what we think aliens look like. This things dissected, its 198 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,279 head is off of itself. But there's been some analysis to show these pictures 199 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:41,480 do come from nineteen forty seven or around there. The sleeve comes from the 200 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:48,759 time period, so they believe these pictures legitimately were from that period of time. 201 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,120 And that's about really as far as we get with analysis. So they 202 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:58,799 believe them to be legitimate real aliens. And they're saying they're thinking because it's 203 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:02,639 from nineteen forty seventies got to be the roswell aliens. I guess it looks 204 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:07,480 like this thing's laying on an army cot or an army blanket. But yeah, 205 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:11,200 So the pictures will be showing in May and in my story that I'm 206 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,720 still preparing, but we'll have posted hopefully. You know, by the time 207 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:22,200 people click on the link on you your page. There's even pictures of kind 208 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:30,080 of an animation of what the alien would have looked like. Wow. Yes, 209 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,759 please do make sure you send that link after you get the story done, 210 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,399 will do? So? Do you want to hear about another story I'm 211 00:16:37,399 --> 00:16:40,720 working on. By the time news is so quick that it's diamond next week 212 00:16:40,759 --> 00:16:42,759 comes around, it'll be old news, all right, sure, But yeah, 213 00:16:42,799 --> 00:16:48,480 I'm just working on this other video that Stephen Greer has released from c 214 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:52,840 SETI. He charges people twenty five hundred dollars to go out and he teaches 215 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:57,039 people how to communicate with aliens and to call in UFOs. They've got a 216 00:16:57,039 --> 00:17:02,480 photograph of what they say is an alien. Unfortunately, really the things look 217 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,480 like a blob to me. I don't see it whatsoever. But they feel 218 00:17:06,519 --> 00:17:08,720 that they were visited by an alien. You know, nobody saw it with 219 00:17:08,799 --> 00:17:12,359 their eyes, but it was captured on a camera. But this recent video 220 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,759 he just put posted like yesterday or the day before, shows these two bright 221 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:23,160 objects out over the ocean and they're at Vero Beach in Florida. Well just 222 00:17:23,279 --> 00:17:26,720 for people, I mean, I've heard from someone else who's a witness, 223 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,720 who said he saw some flying discs. But to me, they looked like 224 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:37,599 flares because they they appear and then they fall slowly, even to the right, 225 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,799 and then they fade out, which is exactly what a flair would do. 226 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:45,559 So far, the experts I have spoken with have agreed with that. 227 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,799 They've they've independently. I didn't tell them what I thought it was. I 228 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:52,400 was just like, what do you guys think? And Mark D'Antonio in particular 229 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,000 pointed out some good things to show that, you know, definitely flares. 230 00:17:56,519 --> 00:18:03,799 So that's what it appears to be. So when you're readers listeners see those 231 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:08,559 videos, they can determine for themselves, but at least thus far from the 232 00:18:08,599 --> 00:18:12,559 experts, that's what I'm hearing. Wow, I wonder if it I wonder 233 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:18,599 if Stephen put the little Atacoma baby, you know, on a little parachute 234 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,559 in one of the flares. Yeah, he was so good and blew it 235 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,519 up. Yeah he might have done that. Yeah, oh my gosh, 236 00:18:25,559 --> 00:18:29,160 I didn't even think of that. Hey, well, that's it, finally, 237 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,400 right, that is finally it, my friend. A lot of news 238 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,720 and likely for you. I'm busy with the conference, so you're getting a 239 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,519 lot of the news even before we have it posted. Well. Great, 240 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:44,000 so make sure you send those links and the listeners out there. You can 241 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,160 check out podcastufo dot com and the show notes and links to all those stories 242 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,559 and videos and all that. So thank you very much, Alejandro, and 243 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:56,480 we'll be talking to you next week. My pleasure, thank you to talk 244 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,359 to you in all right, So stay tuned. We have a little music 245 00:18:59,400 --> 00:20:06,680 break and they were coming back with Jesse Marcel the Third. Welcome to the 246 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,079 show. Jesse, Hello, how are you doing today? I'm doing good. 247 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,400 Thanks so much for offering me a guest. We have a couple of 248 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,759 things to talk about here tonight. First of all, I want to say 249 00:20:18,799 --> 00:20:22,319 to the live listener, if you're listening live, please jump over to the 250 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,240 chat room and join in. That's at podcastufo dot com and it's just two 251 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,920 clicks to get in. Jesse, we're going to be talking about your new 252 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,640 venture, which is I think really exciting. I don't know a lot about 253 00:20:36,039 --> 00:20:40,640 flying cars, but I've always been intrigued by them, and I remember watching 254 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,920 videos back in the I don't want to say the seventies or sixties, but 255 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,000 anyway, the second hour we're going to be talking about Roswell, your family 256 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,799 connection, stuff like that. So for someone who has not heard you before, 257 00:20:55,319 --> 00:20:57,599 can you just give a real, you know, short in the nutshell 258 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,279 type of explanation of who you are, your family connection, and then we'll 259 00:21:03,279 --> 00:21:06,880 get into your car. Okay, I'd be happy to well. Like you 260 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,960 said, my name is Jesse Marcel, actually Jesse Marcel third. I am 261 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:15,960 the grandson of Major Marcel, who was one of the lead investigators into the 262 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:21,799 Roswell incident. Grew up in Montana where with my father, doctor Marcel, 263 00:21:21,839 --> 00:21:26,519 who also was part of the story of course, and spent summers in Louisiana 264 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:32,400 some earlier days down at Grandpa's house at a Homa, Louisiana. And it 265 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:40,519 was through this adventure and the communications I learned about Roswell and was kind of 266 00:21:41,279 --> 00:21:45,880 one of the people that the story was handed down to right in a nutshell. 267 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:51,200 That was really good greet. Yeah. Yeah, and we had you 268 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,359 on the show a while back, Yes, and it was really nice talking. 269 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,880 And you know, we lost your father last year, I should say 270 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,440 a couple hours ago. Father. Yeah, so we really miss him. 271 00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:06,880 Yeah, I bet you do. He's seemed like such an awesome man really. 272 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,680 Yeah. You know, he was one of those people that I you 273 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:17,079 know, he added a lot of credibility to the ufology and the study and 274 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,079 the stories behind Roswell. He was a medical doctor, a colonel in the 275 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,839 military, and you know, he know, his story of his experiences never 276 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,759 varied from what he saw as a child, excuse me, as a child, 277 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:33,559 and you culminate that into a like I said, a medical doctor, 278 00:22:33,599 --> 00:22:40,799 a physician who is an avid astronomer and physicist also and anyway, yes, 279 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,400 that was that kind of his background. Yeah. Yeah, Now let's talk 280 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:51,640 about your brain child. Here is it your idea? This airborne motors? 281 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:57,480 Yeah, it's it's uh draws too long. As a child, my dad 282 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,240 would bring me and my brother they're over to summer called the Holter Laboratories. 283 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,039 They were located in Helena, Montana, where we grew up. This gentleman 284 00:23:06,079 --> 00:23:08,480 Norman Holter. He invented the Holter monitor, that kind of thing, and 285 00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:11,759 happened to be her Jeff Holters because me was a good friend of the families, 286 00:23:11,839 --> 00:23:15,440 and he had in this laboratory he had it was like four floors. 287 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,279 One was nothing but physics, one was chemistry, one was biology, and 288 00:23:19,319 --> 00:23:23,960 one was just kind of crazy everything put together. So I grew up in 289 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:30,680 this atmosphere of you know, basically studying, testing, physics, all that 290 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:36,240 kind of thing, and my dad really ingrained with us as kids that it 291 00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:41,319 was important for us to grasp the ideas out there or you know, to 292 00:23:41,559 --> 00:23:44,359 come to our conclusions, to do our own testing, et cetera, for 293 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,640 different ideas that we might have. And we had the luxury of that laboratory. 294 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,200 As a small example, I think on the top floor he had jars 295 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,799 and jars of different chemicals and one of those was basically powdered zinc and sulfur 296 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,960 and you mix them together in the right combination to mix great rocket fuels. 297 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,000 So that is what we me and I and my brothers started doing, was 298 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:08,039 making the rocket fuels when we were kids, and you know, causing trouble 299 00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:11,440 with it a little few fires in the garage. That kind of thing anyway, 300 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:18,119 going going to upwell now in the last few years, I just you 301 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:23,079 know, there's some ideas out there for flying cars. The real name or 302 00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:26,319 the true name or more proper name would be a personal air vehicle. It 303 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,079 was actually created by NASA that that terminology anyway in the last twenty years. 304 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,359 And what's out there is, uh, you know, more like airplanes with 305 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,920 folding wings gonna be driven on the highway, helicopters on wheels. There there 306 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,319 are a couple of other attempts out there that been going on for decades really 307 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,119 to try to create some kind of a stable vehicle, and they just haven't 308 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,400 had that much luck with it. But I came up with this new concept, 309 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,599 and that's where it's based on a gyroscope. It's a flying car that 310 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:04,880 has a hybrid rotor that it creates stability, creates thrust the body the vehicle 311 00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:11,480 actually creates a magnetic field around the rotor that creates the cause of the rotor 312 00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:15,480 to spin. Basically, other than that, if you take that component out 313 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,559 of it, it's like a giant quad copter. So you put those two 314 00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:25,960 almost together, and that's what it is by all the you know, I've 315 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,759 been working on it for a while now. We have three D printed modal 316 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:33,960 models, got into prototype in the computer systems to keep it stable, that 317 00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:36,759 kind of thing. So that's that's kind of where it's at right now now, 318 00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:40,440 wasn't there? It seems to me I watched a documentary I don't know, 319 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,880 maybe a year or two ago, but a guy that has something with 320 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,680 the rotary engines separate four separate rotary engine. Are you with that? Yeah, 321 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:55,240 very familiar. It's been around for like thirty something years and they've you 322 00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:57,799 know, I don't want to talk out of a character. I'm not familiar 323 00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:00,160 with the project other than what I've read on internet and I've looked at the 324 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,920 patents for it and that kind of thing to see how it operated. It's 325 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,119 it's actually fairly simple. It's based on technology that's been around for decades, 326 00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:12,799 and I think they're trying to evolve it and make it more of a computer 327 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:18,480 some some kind of computer system to control the thrust vectoring of those of the 328 00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:22,920 turbines to try to make it stable. And the difference with yours is you 329 00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:30,319 have the centrifugal wheel basically, I mean the gyroscope, right, it's it's 330 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:37,559 it's a hybridization of technologies that create a stable aircraft or personal air vehicle. 331 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,880 So it is different that by by using the technology that that I have applied 332 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,400 to this I'm not, by no means the inventor of this technology. I'm 333 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,000 just applying it to this car. It creates something that's very compact, that 334 00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:52,519 can fly. They can fit in your garage. Uh, very easy to 335 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:56,759 fly. I always going through the numbers. You know it it could uh 336 00:26:56,519 --> 00:27:00,480 basically could be autonomously controlled, you know from no different than a quad copper 337 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,000 you control from iPhone. If if it was you know, a drone so 338 00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:07,119 to speak, but extremely stable. If you were to fly yourself and it 339 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,200 was to get out of control, you just let go of all the controls 340 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,440 and it would immediately write itself into a into a solid hover. Hm. 341 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:18,279 So the whole idea behind it is creating the most stable, you know, 342 00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:22,640 a stable vehicle possible, that's easy to fly, easy to drive. It 343 00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:26,119 uses a steering wheel and pedals. It drives just like a rare car. 344 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,119 Yeah, except do you have your private let's license? So you do you 345 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,759 fly? No? I do not, uh huh so this is just something 346 00:27:34,839 --> 00:27:41,440 you have an interest in somehow, or your father flew right, he was 347 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:47,200 a helicopter pilot. He didn't fly fixed wings, but he was part of 348 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,680 an attack battalion. Although some of the some of the processes that are using 349 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,240 a helicopters is using this. But Mike, I used to be a wildline 350 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,960 firefighter and I was part of a hell attack team where actually the closest I've 351 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:06,839 ever been is riding and huey helicopters to go to the fronts of different fires, 352 00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:08,960 forest fires, that kind of thing. But I was an average RC 353 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,599 modeler m hm. And it really became interested in it when the when we 354 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,160 had electric motors and batteries capable of you know, lightweight lithium ion kind of 355 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,319 things capable of powering these things. And the same thing about this the typhoon 356 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,839 I've called it is it's completely electric. It's just we just had a question 357 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,759 up in the in the chat room asking that if yeah, so it's electric, 358 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,839 complete electric. There's there's some very large advantages to being electric. One 359 00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:41,839 is that you're you create one hundred percent of the torque available to the instant 360 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:48,480 the motor stars turning, so you can have a design of a rotor to 361 00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:51,559 make it is obviously we want to make it so you can actually fly in 362 00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:53,160 and out of your garage. You know you're pulling a dryingway. Take off 363 00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:57,039 need to be it needs to be as quiet as possible. You can't have 364 00:28:57,119 --> 00:29:00,559 something it's going to be sound like a jet taking off in your neighborhood. 365 00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:07,359 You can create an immense amount of torque instantly through electric motor the way it 366 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,480 is right now. You can by by having basically a rotor that has steep 367 00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:17,319 enough that the actual fins inside of it create the thrust. It doesn't have 368 00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:21,079 to spin as fast as like propeller would to create the same thrust. So 369 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,680 you can you can power. You can you can turn something that's going to 370 00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:26,279 take a lot of force because it's because of a sheer SiZ it's about ten 371 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:30,160 feet diameter. But the way that but with a torque electricity does it well. 372 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,440 And another opponent component of being electric is that it's fully manageable. You 373 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,519 can you can raise and lower the revolutions permit at the RPMs of the rotor 374 00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:42,519 very easily and very incrementally. You know, you can you know by in 375 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:45,599 a series of you know, ten RPMs, twenty thirty, one thousand, 376 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,680 thousand and ten twenty that kind of thing. And when you're talking about elect 377 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,960 a gas powered turbine, it's not going to be as nearly controllable. You 378 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,440 know, when you raise and lower the RPMs, and a gas motor you 379 00:29:57,519 --> 00:30:02,480 don't have the kind of flexibilit you don't have the kind of control you would 380 00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:06,759 with an electric motor. Right, I know of an investor, you got 381 00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:11,400 to get the word too. How about Elon Musk? Yeah, it's yeah, 382 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,480 with a Tesla and X and Space X and that kind of thing. 383 00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:19,440 You're you're not the first person to say that, I have a business partner 384 00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:23,240 who we do movies with and he just bought the latest Tesla D and that 385 00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:26,119 kind of thing, and he's a huge Elon Musk fan, and that is 386 00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:30,039 that that's a possibility. Right, We're we're in the middle of When we 387 00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:33,000 talked a couple of weeks ago, I was in the middle of doing an 388 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,759 Indiegogo campaign, you know, putting together and massaging and ready to go out 389 00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:42,119 there and sing about doing a little bit of crowdfunding and just basically to get 390 00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:48,079 it from the the prototype stage into something can be tested, a man pilot 391 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,799 kind of thing, and uh, in the thrust of that, I have 392 00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:57,559 some friends who are they do some extreme television for I don't want to mess 393 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,240 their name, but one of the large uh you know, power drink companies, 394 00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:07,880 and in this meeting they were talking about the latest there they're you know, 395 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:12,119 a series of shows that they'd like to produce with them. They involved 396 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:18,279 everything from airplanes to race car that kind of thing. And somewhere in there 397 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,079 I'd sent them over a little one sheet one page dat or sheet with a 398 00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:26,519 couple of photos on it, and the VP grabbed it, looked at it, 399 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,720 ended the meeting and now wants to present to the president of the company 400 00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:34,920 because they've been looking at this and this just what what I've created is exactly 401 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,480 what they're looking for. So it's kind of put a kind of an interesting 402 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,680 and interesting position. They'd be great if they wanted to come along and back 403 00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:45,839 it. So we're kind of waiting to see how that goes. I think 404 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,920 I know the company in the r They have a bunch of helicopters themselves. 405 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,400 Yes, they have all the high technology they're they're they they're very much into 406 00:31:52,960 --> 00:32:00,400 anyway all the all the extreme stuff, but it's exciting boarding and yeah, 407 00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:05,519 they went literally from you know, it's it's a prey large company. You 408 00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:07,519 have all these layers you need to go through, and he's willing to bypass 409 00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:13,359 everything and jump right to the president and so so and then yeah, so 410 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,920 it's good. I'm I am actually I've pulled back. I'm not quite sure 411 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,640 if I'm going to do then indigogo campaign, but I think I'm going to 412 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,799 go out. I'm you know, in the middle of a sum in the 413 00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:27,680 paper paperwork to do uh basically a small private offering. So I think I'm 414 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,400 going to start there and if this other company comes along, then great, 415 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:36,279 that'll that'll that'll knock that. You know. Obviously getting funds for this kind 416 00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:37,920 of thing is one of the difficult early stage you know, early stages you 417 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,720 go through. So I would resolve that, but uh, at this point, 418 00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:45,279 it's full steam ahead. So wow, exciting. Now. The one 419 00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:49,160 thing that I thought of when you were talking about electric it seems to me 420 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,759 that the weight of the batteries would be uh detrimental to this, is that 421 00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:59,759 am I not thinking correctly? You are thinking correctly now if you look at 422 00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:02,640 the I think if you have that photo has sent you, it's based I 423 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,599 call the typhoon F one and it's not too tricky as tip. The F 424 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,680 stands for freedom. One stands for one passenger. The rotor itself is a 425 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,720 it's fear. It's the large electric motor, very large, ten feet in 426 00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:20,799 diameter. It's possible to put it for that rotor to actually with the with 427 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:27,079 the magnetic fields are created within the actual craft itself and within the magnetic roador 428 00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:30,880 itself, you can create between three and four thousand horsepower, and with that 429 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,519 you could create an immense you know, the thrust would be the thrust would 430 00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:38,000 be no problem even if the batteries weighed thirty five to forty percent of the 431 00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:43,240 entire vehicle with an occupant. Now, you don't want to create a vehicle 432 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:46,519 it has to create that much thrust for liftoff. So it's you're you're kind 433 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:50,799 of in a quandary. It's like, Okay, the longer the flight time, 434 00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:53,880 the more batteries you have. So is it better for your test vehicles 435 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,599 to maybe have a shorter flight span flight time and have less weight in batteries. 436 00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:02,440 Now we're looking at fuel cell technology also and it's it's already out there, 437 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,200 so we'll probably be moving to fuel cells, you know, as far 438 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,000 as you know in the next twenty four months when we're actually in production, 439 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:14,440 will probably be more fuel cell powered and that will relieve some of that weight 440 00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:20,320 issue. M Now, I guess one of the questions that one would think 441 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:28,239 of is safety. How would you address safety on something like this? Well, 442 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,559 it's interesting, I'm working at two folks are both astronauts, and one 443 00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:35,559 of them worked on the mars Lander in those projects and what they did in 444 00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:37,760 their in their kind, they're they're basically that was one of the things we 445 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,320 were talking about as a safety how do we do this? And there is 446 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,119 apparently something similar to an air bag that's on the bottom of these crafts when 447 00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:51,239 they when they're working on and they we're going to a plant that same technology, 448 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,360 So you almost have a giant air bag under the bottom of it and 449 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:59,480 a rocket propelled shoot. So you have two methods. And the another thing 450 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:04,119 is you it's this, This wouldn't have any you know, you could fly 451 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,480 twenty five thousand feet, there's not that's not an issue, but ideally you're 452 00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:12,239 going to fly at about twenty five thirty five feet off the ground. It's 453 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,800 you're not going to want to fly up into the clouds like I think it's 454 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,159 it's to make it useful, Like I said, you could do that, 455 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,000 but part of the idea is to make it so that you're not you know, 456 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,679 you're basically just flying over the power lines. Interesting, boy, there's 457 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,679 been many times, I'm sure a lot of listeners as well as myself, 458 00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:32,679 wish we had one when we're stuck in traffic, just pop right over a 459 00:35:32,679 --> 00:35:39,639 bunch of cars. Now, what has stopped other people from succeeding trying to 460 00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:44,800 do a similar thing to what you're doing. Well, you know, nobody 461 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,239 has done it the way I've done it. This the idea of you of 462 00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:52,039 actually the craft being a gyroscope. It's the first one out there at least, 463 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,119 and we have you know, provisional patents, and we have a design 464 00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:59,360 patent now and a bunch of other things, and you go through and uh, 465 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,239 and the reason it just it really just hasn't been done this way before. 466 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,719 For one thing, but even bigger than that, we need current technology 467 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,159 to make this work. Ten years ago, fifteen years ago, the density 468 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,400 or the energy density in a battery wasn't great enough that this would even been 469 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,320 possible. It would have weighed far too much. I mean you're talking back 470 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,280 in you know, lead acid batteries, and I think just really you couldn't. 471 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,639 You couldn't get enough energy out of a battery and put it into this 472 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,960 into your system, your medic system and make it work. So it's really 473 00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:34,719 just technology has come far enough now that it's possible. Now. Do you 474 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,400 have an engineering background or is this just something you just are pursuing in other 475 00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:44,480 ways. I was when I was in college, I went through aerospace, 476 00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:47,880 engineering and finance and economics, kind of a strange thing, and I ended 477 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,840 up by my day job has always been I was. I was in banking 478 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,199 for quite a number of years, and when everything kind of went went south 479 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,000 in banking, you know, back in six and seven, I decided to 480 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,519 go out and kind of fall up on the family history. Wrote a book 481 00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:07,880 about Roswell documentary and I go around doing you know, a few speeches here 482 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:13,039 and there, and it's kind of that was done. That That was that 483 00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,639 was interesting. I have I've had a lot of fun. It was it 484 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,920 was, you know, I've I've really had a good experience the whole thing. 485 00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:22,559 But in the background has been this fight to get back into the arena 486 00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:28,760 of aerospace engineering. So it's this has given me the ability to really go 487 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,920 back into that I've always been UH. I don't know what you call it. 488 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,960 A designer. I I the the if I could spin off a little 489 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,639 bit here from the car. I actually the car was supposed to be a 490 00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:45,079 test bed for another technology I'm working on. M H. It's like on 491 00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:47,639 this it's a quad copter on the has four corner fans that operate qua quad 492 00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:51,679 coppter. Other than they don't provide lip, they provide directional control and that 493 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:57,519 kind of thing. I've been working with UH. And this is my old 494 00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:02,159 it's it's it's based on theorical physics I a theoretical idea anyway, it's being 495 00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:08,519 able to observe energy in a fluid, being able to divide gravity metric forces. 496 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:14,639 So you create a bias driver, singular vectored. It's kind of funny 497 00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:16,760 you call it inertia nursing me static. But if you could picture a ball 498 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,800 that wants to be that wants to be pulled out of your hands, and 499 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,320 it's not it's not pushing around the air around it. It's actually internal and 500 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,679 I have done some tests using fluids and it works. The next thing is 501 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:35,880 to step up and create a mechanized vectored motor that could be used to propel 502 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,639 direction. So the idea is actually to apply a non existent yet as if 503 00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:44,519 yet technologyally, I mean people could be sure talking about it working out to 504 00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:46,159 some laboratory somewhere in the world that I know about, of course. But 505 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,440 the idea is to create a form of a motor electric again that creates this 506 00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:58,960 vectored force and uh like, for instance, could be used in an airplane 507 00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,960 instead of using a jet engine or propellers or you're not you're not pushing air. 508 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,800 It creates a vectored momentum withinside the airplane, so it would be perfectly 509 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:15,400 silent, all electric. The force to create is really uh there. It 510 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,519 is asymptotic to infinity. It's it's just kind of it's just some ideas. 511 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,440 Those ideas have been with me since I've been in the tent in my early 512 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,440 twenties. So, like I said, making a long story of this whole 513 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,639 thing is I wanted to create a stable aircraft that I could create these motors 514 00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:36,079 that are these these sources of energy, put them on board and actually use 515 00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:39,679 those to push it around. And so the typhoon is nothing was nothing more 516 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,199 than a test bed, but it became more than that when I put it 517 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,159 together. I, like I said, I had a couple of I put 518 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,199 a think tank and a couple of marastronauts, really intelligent people that kind of 519 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,239 added their two cents in about some of the mechanisms. And then I started 520 00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:00,199 raising eyebrows and decided, well, let us go about this thing in a 521 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,400 in a big way. Mm hmmm, all right, well let's let's talk 522 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,480 about the car. Okay, the typhoon. Yes, yeah, yeah, 523 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:15,320 So I have a typhoon in my garage and I have it plugged in most 524 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,960 likely, so and I'm going to go to work and I'm going to go 525 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,400 through a couple of cities or whatever. So why don't you just walk me 526 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:30,199 through what you envision on how this thing would work. Well, the easiest 527 00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:32,199 way to put it is it's I mean, it's it's fully computer controlled, 528 00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:37,480 server, servo mechanisms, fly by ware, those kind of things. So 529 00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:39,760 you would step into the vehicle, actually you don't plug it, of course, 530 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:45,480 step into the vehicle and then nothing just like the current car. If 531 00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:50,960 you have a proximity key, they would initiate the systems in the car and 532 00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:54,719 there'd be you would you would propel it or drive it into your driveway out 533 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,679 of the garage and the driveway. It does have a very simple system of 534 00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:00,039 wheels you could drive out in the drive way. It's not meant to be 535 00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:02,840 driven like down the highway on it, but it can be maniuvered with them, 536 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,639 and you would put it would it would you would push a button that 537 00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:12,119 it would create an automatic lift off sequence, so it would measure the way 538 00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:15,679 to the car. It would proximity, their proximity detections would make sure there's 539 00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:20,440 nothing around it that would be they could possibly be obstructed or impacted when this 540 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,760 thing took off, And so you push this button. Once it's figured out 541 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,960 the surroundings, it would raise you to a given altitude about thirty feet. 542 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,039 At that point you would take over and fly it to wherever you're going to 543 00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:37,199 go. Either either you could have preset the your your your guide path, 544 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,679 your flight path, excuse me, or you would input it through again something 545 00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:45,880 as simple as steering wheel. Once you're thirty feet, turn right to go 546 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,000 right, left, to go left, there's a gas pedal to make you 547 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,000 go forward or break pedal will stop you. Now in addition to those, 548 00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:57,079 there are paddles, same thing you used to switch transmissions gears on like in 549 00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:00,480 a modern car. And on the paddles, you pull the right paddle, 550 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,599 you'll go up, put the left paddle down. So obviously, because you're 551 00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:09,199 moving in three dimensions, but the whole idea is that the car without your 552 00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:14,000 inputs is the most stable. So whenever you add an input, whenever you 553 00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:16,599 make a change in the direction, you're actually making it a little less stable. 554 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,719 And then when you and when you then when you let the car take 555 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,239 it back, the control of getting it comes back to more stable. So 556 00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:28,199 really, once you're at thirty fourth altitude, you're you're basically pointing going m 557 00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:34,800 and there. Now, obviously we're you know, cutting edge on the edge. 558 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,960 There isn't an infrastructure built, There are no rules that kind of thing 559 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,880 yet for these things. So I was going to ask about that there is 560 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,000 they'll come around. I mean we're at the at the at the front of 561 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,639 it along with some other people. So you know, the way I envision 562 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:52,519 it is eventually they'll become more and more autonomous pre set corridors that you can 563 00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:57,519 fly with them. But like if you can think about this way, Okay, 564 00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:00,280 I'm I'm going to go to work in this thing. I plot on 565 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,440 my garage, I push a button thirty feet Okay, I know where I'm 566 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:07,159 going to And you know, you could do you know, you could have 567 00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:08,960 a map show up as you know, like on a tablet type screen in 568 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,559 front of you. It's going to show you where to go, and it'll 569 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,320 as long as you're staying with the little green lines on the on the on 570 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,559 the glass in front of you'll know you're okay to get to where you're going 571 00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:20,679 in in the right direction of the right hallet height and that kind of thing. 572 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:27,239 And then a parking garage, I wouldn't think in the new distant future 573 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,400 when these become more than norm when you become you know, with a certain 574 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,400 proximity of that parking structure, you know, and be a you know, 575 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,639 a quarter mile of one thousands whatever, a predetermined set figure. It's gonna 576 00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:42,079 now can take control of the car. You're gonna let go of it and 577 00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:45,599 it'll guide your car in. It'll it'll set you down into space so you 578 00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:49,039 won't really be the one to control bringing in or taking off when there's other 579 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,519 you know, cars or whatever around. It'll all be fairly automatic or autonomous. 580 00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:59,239 Now, would there have to be some type of special licensing right now 581 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,039 as long as it's under a certain weight. No, and that was part 582 00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:05,679 that we were doing. Now everything we're going to be. Everything we're doing 583 00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:08,920 and working with the FAA on so so you know, the idea is once 584 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,119 to surpass I think it's like fifteen hundred pounds, then it'll move us into 585 00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:15,599 a different category for that's for the base weave of the vehicle. But there 586 00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:19,840 will be so we'll be working hand in hand with them. You know. 587 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,760 Obviously at some point there's going to be some restrictions placed on these sort of 588 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,920 vehicles and you'll have to go through some kind of training school and it'll be 589 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,079 in a dnim to your driver's license to be able to use it. Like 590 00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:34,039 I said, right now, it doesn't exist, but I can't imagine in 591 00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:37,079 the not too distant future, will be a you know, some kind of 592 00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:40,960 mandatory event like right now, the fa will require testing of the vehicle under 593 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,639 tether. They'll make you go out and prove that the vehicle can do what 594 00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:47,519 it wants to do. Once you've proven that, then you're allowed to untether 595 00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:51,639 it. That nobody's gotten that point of being untethered. With the exception, 596 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,960 there's a there is a thanks made. There is one out there that's basically 597 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,760 an airplane with folding wings, and they have made it past that. One 598 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,639 of the one of the issues is when you deal with an airplane that I 599 00:45:04,679 --> 00:45:07,719 mean, they can fold down to drive on the on the on a road, 600 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,920 but that means you're still taking off and landing in an airport. And 601 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,719 just because of all the craziness in the world, it's probably going to be 602 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:20,000 more or more difficult to fly to an airport and drive off or drive on 603 00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:22,840 to an airport and fly out without a lot of checking or a lot of 604 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,719 inspections that kind of thing. And you know, who knows where that will 605 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,360 go. But yeah, that is almost like to have they'd almost have to 606 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,280 create separate airports just for those exactly just for safety's sake, like you know, 607 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,039 just theorizing. But it'll be interesting to see, I mean, it's 608 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,679 the the world will look completely different the next thirty years when it comes to 609 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:49,639 this kind of technology. It's there's some forecasts that came about saying by twenty 610 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,239 fifty this technology will be the norm and it's and it'll be necessary to navigate 611 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,079 large cities and that kind of thing. And it kind of makes sense. 612 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,559 You know, I'm doing it for fun. I'm excited by it. It's 613 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:01,800 it's kind of you. You've seen the picture of the car. It looks 614 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:07,159 more like a sports car than anything else. So it's beautiful and the listener 615 00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:10,800 can check out right now. Actually, if you're listening live on podcast UFO 616 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,880 dot com in the show notes right on the front page, we have a 617 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,239 picture of it. It's a great looking uh. And that's all your design? 618 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,039 Yes? Nice? Yeah, yeah. We started with you know, 619 00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:27,320 start with sketches, then then went to solid works and made a three D 620 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,239 model of it. That's kind of how we started. So technology is so 621 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,920 wonderful now you can you can go from a scratching on a piece of paper 622 00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:37,360 holding a model within weeks. I know, it's amazing. Then three D 623 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:43,719 printer you mentioned that whole thing is amazing. Now you mentioned earlier you know 624 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:50,920 that finances. Are there any other blockers or major hurdles that you're aware of 625 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,199 at this point? You know, this is the way I look at it 626 00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:00,039 is, I can you know, if it's not being a finance or I'll 627 00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:05,039 bootstrap it. I'll find it out of my pocket until it's done, you 628 00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:07,519 know. So in my mind, there's nothing that's going to stop it from 629 00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:13,599 being done. Now past that, I am going to be looking for some 630 00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:16,840 partners, uh to join the company that think, wow, that things pretty 631 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,199 cool. Let's see what we can do with it, and and just just 632 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,320 to elevate to the point where it's not gonna I won't it won't. You 633 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,840 know, it won't take me a couple of years to get to the point 634 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,320 of happing this thing ready to go. And of course, you know in 635 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,360 there's there, there's I said that the other company is interested in coming along 636 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,719 and endorsing, and so we'll see where it goes. But you know, 637 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,320 it's like any new adventure, an adventure, it's it's you know, it's 638 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:44,239 a monetary uh constraint. Technology is done though, I mean there are We're 639 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,719 using three D printing to create the mold, to lay up carbon fiber to 640 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,920 create the panels, and that's what it's. So the whole thing is almost 641 00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:52,519 entirely made a carbon fiber. We already have people ready to lay up the 642 00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:57,519 everything from the rotor to the body panels to everything's you know, all that's 643 00:47:57,519 --> 00:48:00,800 pretty much ready to go. And it's and technologies and that a lot easier. 644 00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:04,159 You know, my like three D model I have that can fit your 645 00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:09,719 hands. We can take those same called STL files and create the actual real 646 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:15,039 panels from that. So it's pretty amazing. The one thing I you know, 647 00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:19,079 I could envision, and there may be something you've already thought of about 648 00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:22,480 this, is you know, collisions with other Let's just say that these become 649 00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:27,880 popular. A lot of people have them. You mentioned corridors, which sounds 650 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,679 like a good idea, but you know the cross you know, t boning 651 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,679 someone or something like that, all that that it would be kind of hard 652 00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:40,599 to regulate. Well, you know, there's you know, on the level 653 00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:45,880 we're talking aboutright now, it's easy. There are sensors, proximity detectors that 654 00:48:45,039 --> 00:48:50,760 will the computer will not let you get within a certain number of feet a 655 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,760 certain fixed variable you'll create of another object, say it's five ft, ten 656 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,320 feet, one hundred feet, whatever that is, So it would actually you 657 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,400 could steer yourself right into the side of a bit and that would never let 658 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,000 you do that or into another car and that kind of thing. So it's 659 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,639 going to be aware, you know, through avionics something similar to an airplane 660 00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:12,079 obviously is not a control center, but the same I think, you know, 661 00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:15,320 some of the larger luxury car manufacturers already have you know, put together 662 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,760 these crash avoidance and and a lot of those is the same kind of proximity 663 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,760 detection that you could run up on a park car in front of you, 664 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,000 and when it detects you're moving faster, then you know, than the breaks 665 00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:29,360 in a in a meaningful sense to be able to stop you, it'll slam 666 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,880 on the bricks for you. So it's that same kind of technology I see 667 00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:37,119 in three dimensions, you know, rather than two. And what do you 668 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,920 envision a speed of something like this could could travel? You know, I 669 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,840 was never designed for speed. I mean, of course, since you're you're 670 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,519 talking about being airborne, you you have you have a little more flexibility that 671 00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:52,320 way, but you know, really not the design I have right now not 672 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:57,239 much different than a car sixty or eighty if you're going to express it in 673 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,840 miles per hour, you know, not not tripically fast, not that you 674 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,000 couldn't push it to do that. As an example, the way the car 675 00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:09,039 is controlled the corner rotors, and it might be hard to envision this unless 676 00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:14,800 you're seeing a picture of it, are rotatable in three dimensions, so you 677 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,920 can you can stay the car, can stay level and still go rigged and 678 00:50:19,039 --> 00:50:22,559 make make turns, go forward, go backwards, because the rotors are actually 679 00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:25,400 changing the direction. But in another setting with the car, you'd be able 680 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,199 to fix the roadors and then you'd be banking through turns and instead of going 681 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,559 on a level flight, the nose would tip down and all of a sudden, 682 00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,159 your main rotor that's spreading all a thrust would also would also give you 683 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:42,400 forward thrust. And it's those kind of things. What if you you know, 684 00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:45,440 if you want to get into more of a sporting mode, then really 685 00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:49,079 you know, if something probably more similar to a small sets and that kind 686 00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:52,400 of thing. Mm hmmmm. But it's it's limitless depending on what you I 687 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,039 mean, you could design it to go much faster if that's what you wanted 688 00:50:55,079 --> 00:51:00,800 to. But uh, someone on the someone on the message was wondering if 689 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,360 you if you think that you could do stunts with the salop to loops and 690 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,280 stuff like that. Yes, you could do anything it you figure you have 691 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,280 complete control in three dimensions, and you can do it statically. You can 692 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,159 do it from a single point, so it's not like an airplane or you 693 00:51:15,159 --> 00:51:17,280 know where you got to get momentum. You gotta go forward and get enough 694 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,480 energy. You can do a loop or a strong enough motor to hang out 695 00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:23,119 the prop that kind of thing. This could, yes, you know you 696 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,639 could. Any of those could be possible in a very small space. Actually, 697 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,039 wow, Now I would imagine if you had four rotors, no matter, 698 00:51:34,199 --> 00:51:37,320 even if you're running off electricity, which is basically very quiet, it 699 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:43,920 would still cause quite a bit of noise, you know, because there the 700 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,280 rotors are big enough and they don't have to turn so fast, so it 701 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,840 actually wouldn't be that noisy, nothing at all compared like a rare airplane. 702 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,599 In fact, if it went overhead, say thirty feet off the ground, 703 00:51:55,599 --> 00:52:00,599 you probably couldn't hear it really, so it be nothing like a hellic anything. 704 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,800 No, nothing like that at all. And a lot of the noise 705 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,079 made in the helicopter the roator is the leading The leading edge of one rotor 706 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,639 will catch an air pocket behind the trailing edge, and it caused that clapping 707 00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:13,519 sound kind of going through there, those kind of things to hear and when 708 00:52:13,519 --> 00:52:15,480 they when they slow down, just because of the way this is, it's 709 00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:20,159 there's like I said, the rod doesn't need to turn nearly as fast as 710 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,599 a as a helicopter does, for instance, and it it relegates it. 711 00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:27,800 It makes it a lot more quiet. And in fact, like I said 712 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,079 it would be, it would be. I mean, you'd definitely be able 713 00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:32,400 to hear it if it was by you or or immediately in your vicinity, 714 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,519 but a flying overhead you really wouldn't notice it. Now, I know, 715 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:43,039 I read somewhere where you know, the helicopter wouldn't work until they made the 716 00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:45,679 rotor tilt or whatever because it would catch that air pocket. Yeah, and 717 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,559 it would crash. And you know, they had a lot of a lot 718 00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:52,559 of you know, hit and miss to get that thing going in the beginning. 719 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,559 Yep, there was, like I said, this there is I mean 720 00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:01,320 some of the technology and a helicopter which interesting is you figure like a Huey 721 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:07,400 helicopter. They're powered by a couple of turbines. They put out like about 722 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:14,119 seven hundred and eighty five horsepower each and they're you know, they're quite like 723 00:53:14,159 --> 00:53:16,719 a Huey helicopter. Wich I'm probably familiar with way you know quite a bit 724 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:23,079 many times what this car does. But yet because of electricity you can create 725 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,280 you can create almost as much more actually create more horsepower if you put it 726 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,360 that way, and we're not you know, you can convert horsepower watts. 727 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,039 But if we stay at the idea of horsepower, you can create more horsepower 728 00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:37,800 with what I've done here than in a Huey helicopter, just because of the 729 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,400 sheer, the way the leverage in the motor works, the way that the 730 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,719 way it's created within the within the body of this So if you create a 731 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:52,920 very strong motor with with very steeply angled fins withinside of a rotor like so 732 00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:54,679 they don't have to they don't have to go that fast and create an incredible 733 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:59,199 thrust. Well, I might have some listeners. I was just thinking I 734 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:04,039 might have some listener complain that this show has nothing to do about UFOs. 735 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,679 Yes, but I could understand that, So I'm ready for that. But 736 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:13,000 for the listener, we will be talking about that in the second hour some 737 00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:15,360 more. Now, have you figured out what a range would be from plug 738 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:21,920 in to replug in. You know, it's it's more like, you know, 739 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,400 you should be able to run for about an hour, so roughly that's 740 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,760 why I put it into an hour. So you figure, Okay, well, 741 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,960 if you're going thirty miles an hour, you should be able to about 742 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,280 thirty miles. If you go to sixty miles an hour, about you know, 743 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,519 about sixty miles, you know, I would say to be safe when 744 00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:38,679 we're actually testing and we get in the getting things going, you know, 745 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:44,480 about a twenty mile distance I see, and then you know, and then 746 00:54:44,519 --> 00:54:46,199 go from there. Like I said, we're also at the very beginning this 747 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:52,320 thing. It could be designed like the you create enough thrust to actually have 748 00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:55,159 far more you know, a far bigger power supply I'm than I'm going to 749 00:54:55,199 --> 00:54:59,599 be putting into it. So it's possible greatly increase that. But again, 750 00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:01,519 you know, for for simplicity, for safety, for testing, it's just 751 00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:06,199 not going to be as far. Now I would think that you'd want to 752 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,840 create a miniature prototype of this. Have you thought of that? You know, 753 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,920 my I was gonna get a thirty create a thirty percent scale, thirty 754 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,960 percent scale model of the whole thing. But by the time you get that 755 00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:21,840 far because of again three D printing that kind of thing. I mean to 756 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,880 figure, I'm going to be using the same computer, the same the same 757 00:55:24,199 --> 00:55:30,599 the same mechanical ideas in the in the prototype as the small scale version that 758 00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:34,800 as a cost, it's they're so close to the same to build a thirty 759 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,840 percent model is to build a full scale model that it almost makes sense just 760 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:42,519 to build the full scale model. Yeah, I could see that, and 761 00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:45,000 it's just like it would have been the case, like I said, ten 762 00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:47,840 years ago, completely would have made sense to make a smaller proof of concept 763 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,719 kind of thing. But now it's just like I said, the differential is 764 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,880 so small that it's just you know, so it's about thirty percent more to 765 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,119 get the full the full version that something could sit in and fly. So 766 00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:01,599 we're just going to go for it all. I think I've early car manufacturers 767 00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:06,920 for some reason when I'm thinking about you know, how you're you're plugging along 768 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,239 with this idea. You know, it's kind of in the same realm, 769 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:15,920 only it's a different you know, a whole different animal. But still would 770 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:21,960 you fear any type of say competition, you know, like for instance, 771 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:27,239 Tucker when he was building his car. He built the prototype type of thing, 772 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,079 same thing, and you know, but he was basically pushed out of 773 00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:35,320 business. Do you fear any Do you think there's anything out there that would 774 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,679 like come at you is to stop you from from moving ahead? I mean, 775 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:44,239 as far as that goes, I mean, it's almost better because things 776 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,840 move so fast today, it's almost to get your it's almost better to get 777 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:52,239 your idea out there and take ownership of it in a big sense, sometimes 778 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,880 trying to keep it obscure with only a few people knowing about it. It 779 00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:00,159 opens I think it almost opens up the competition more in that it's if I 780 00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:01,360 get this thing out there so it's everywhere. I mean, of course I've 781 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,280 covered, you know, with the patents and that kind of thing for the 782 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,079 for how the technic technology is being applied. But if somebody else I go 783 00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:08,840 out there and they say, oh, that's pretty cool, I'm gonna make 784 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,239 one too, it comes down to the point where, you know, and 785 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,840 maybe I'm a little optimistic that they'd have it. It'd be better for them 786 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,000 to contact me and work together on something than it would be to try to 787 00:57:20,039 --> 00:57:22,599 take it and do something themselves. M hm. Just from the legal liability 788 00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:24,679 sense and the rest of it. It's like, you know, I'm not 789 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,800 It's like, I'm not a big greedy person. I'm thinking, hey, 790 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,679 if you, if you, if you have something to say, well I 791 00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:34,000 can get that done in you know, in two months rather than two years. 792 00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:36,880 You know, let's look, let's let's put something together to get you 793 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,920 know, it doesn't have to be a US versus them kind of thing. 794 00:57:39,239 --> 00:57:45,159 Conversely, are you thinking about anyone that's out there right now that you're thinking 795 00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:49,840 about approaching? You know, I have a couple of names and people. 796 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,239 You know. Part of it, you know, is leveraging my name. 797 00:57:52,679 --> 00:57:55,719 Let's be honest with it. I I get out there because of because of 798 00:57:55,719 --> 00:58:00,519 my name with Roswell, you know, I get the chance to meet and 799 00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:02,039 talk to a lot of very interesting people, and some of them are fairly 800 00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:06,599 powerful and wealthy and that kind of thing. So there is a window of 801 00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:09,679 opportunity to talk to some of those folks, so that that is definitely a 802 00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:15,719 possibility. What what I've decided to do is, like I said, in 803 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,039 a financial sense, I'm going to try to find some partners that'll come along 804 00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:22,880 that might and then and then look for them to come into the very beginning 805 00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:25,119 and give me a little bit of time and then, you know, and 806 00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:29,559 then and then walk into because I have a couple of of of larger people 807 00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:31,039 that I could I could definitely sit down and talk to, but uh, 808 00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:35,599 I want to be completely put together when I do that. Yeah, yeah, 809 00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:37,920 all right, can you give out We're just about at the end of 810 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:43,320 the first hour here, Can you give out your website and Facebook page, 811 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,199 Twitter, all that stuff. Yeah, it's uh Airborne Motors dot com, 812 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:52,880 Airborne with an E, A I R B O r Any Motors dot com. 813 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,360 There's also a Twitter feed which is Airborne uh Facebook. If you just 814 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,559 go to Jesse Marcel, you'll find on Facebook you'll see my father's, you'll 815 00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:05,360 see mine, and I have just a couple other ones. I think I'm 816 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,599 actually the third one on there or something like that. But if you just 817 00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:13,159 look Jesse Marcel, you'll see my smiling face. That's the easy way to 818 00:59:13,159 --> 00:59:15,880 get to it. Yeah, okay, well all right, so why don't 819 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:21,440 you say goodbye to the first hour listeners? Thanks everybody for listening. I 820 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,360 hope I didn't bore you. No, I think it's been fascinating. And 821 00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:30,559 the second hour We're going to be talking about your family, Roswell and something 822 00:59:30,639 --> 00:59:36,679 I sent you a clip of to see what you thought about that. Well, 823 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,159 that's it for the show. If you're listening live, hang in there. 824 00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:42,360 For the second part of the show, we're going to be talking with 825 00:59:42,519 --> 00:59:47,519 Jesse Marcel the Third about Roswell and more. And so if you're listening as 826 00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:52,920 a podcast, remember to subscribe for just a dollar a month to hear the 827 00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:59,760 entire show. You can go on get joyride dot com, slash podcast UFO 828 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,480 and all the information is right there. I want to thank some people for 829 01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:07,840 helping out with the show today, our guests, of course, Jesse Marcel 830 01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:13,280 Third. I also want to thank Alejando Rojas for the UFO news, Carrie 831 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,079 Lloyd Whitehouse for the music, Peggy Shunning for managing our Facebook page. Remember 832 01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:22,239 to like us on Facebook for all the latest UFO news. Robert Davis, 833 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:27,920 PhD will be talking to us next week about his new book entitled The UFO 834 01:00:28,039 --> 01:00:31,280 Phenomena. Should I Believe? That's with a question mark. You can check 835 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,920 us out next week on the Dark Matter Radio Network and every Wednesday at eight 836 01:00:35,960 --> 01:01:07,360 pm Eastern Standard Time. This is Martin Willis saying keep your eyes to the sky,