WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.720 --> 00:00:12.720 Well, whiskey coming same my pain. Harney's the Brain Whiskey from Powerline blog 2 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:19.399 dot com and produced by Ricochet dot Com. This is the three Whiskey Happy 3 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:27.160 Hour with your bartenders Steve Hayward, John You and Powerlines International Woman of Mystery 4 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:34.960 Lucresha's gotta give it and let that whiskey blow where you're fling low down and 5 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:43.880 low well. Welcome everybody to the three Whiskey Happy Hour. It is I 6 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:48.719 Lucresha, the International Woman of Mystery, as host tonight and very happy to 7 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:54.439 welcome my co host Steve Hayward and also a bit of a man of mystery, 8 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:58.439 John You, because every time we jar him is he's in some new, 9 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:03.200 undisclosed location, in a bunker deep beneath I don't know what. Although 10 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:06.239 today he says he's in a prison cell, so I'm going to leave that 11 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:11.079 one alone. He says he's in a prison cell smaller than the one Donald 12 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:15.000 Trump is going to be in, and he's going to give us. However, 13 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:19.040 are you drinking whiskey or is it they don't allow it in your prison 14 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:23.519 cell? John Oh? So I'm at the University Club of Chicago, which 15 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:29.560 is an amazing place has three restaurants, three bars, and so I had 16 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:38.120 wonderful Eagle Eagle rare. I think Bourbon really quite good. But the great 17 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:42.280 thing is on a terrace, outdoor terrace on the eleventh floor, overlooking Lake 18 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:49.000 Michigan in a Gothic style. I think early turn of the century skyscraper really 19 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:53.959 something. But the great thing about being in Chicago is I gave a talk 20 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:59.000 at the Federal Society today for lunch, and at my table were two devoted 21 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:04.280 listeners of the Three Whiskey Happy Hour, one and I promised to protect their 22 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:07.319 anonymity, but one was a judge. One. This judge said, so 23 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:09.840 I asked them both, when you think of the podcast. This judge was 24 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:15.280 very eager, very eager to give us a little advice. In fact, 25 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.879 so eager he wrote it on the back of his business card so that I 26 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:23.759 would not forget his advice. This is a judge. He said, you 27 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:30.319 must drink Jura j u r a Jura is a single malt whiskey from the 28 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:35.800 Isle of Jura in Scotland. And he says the reason why, he said, 29 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:38.159 I bet you don't know the reason why? Does anybody know why? 30 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:43.599 The reason? The reason why Jura would be of special interest to the hosts 31 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:46.520 and listeners of the Three Whiskey Happy Hour. No, is it the birthplace 32 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:53.879 of Adam Smith or something close. It is where George Orwell had a small 33 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:58.719 weekend house and apparently wrote in nineteen eighty eighty four, and or animal farm 34 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:00.840 there. Oh right, I think I didn't know that. Yeah, I've 35 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:04.680 had yours. It's very good. It's very good whiskey. Yes, okay, 36 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:10.080 So that's the first. Then the second listener, who, let's admit 37 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:16.159 it, like most of our listeners, is a fan boy of Lucretia and 38 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:22.560 is wonder it's been apparently from all I can tell swiping on match dot Com 39 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:28.280 to find Lucretia as yet the finder that will you guys tell Lucresia to lighten 40 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:34.879 up on Edmund Burke. You can't pay for that. You can't pay for 41 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:38.319 that kind of time. So those are my two listener comments from the people. 42 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:42.159 The friends I met today at lunch, we heard lighting up on Edmund 43 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:46.159 Burke. Can't do it? Lighten up on Steve, but I thought it 44 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:52.479 was too Yeah, but I think Edmund Burke is classic. Yeah, but 45 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:57.120 picking on Edmund Burke since you're such a fanboy of Edmund Burke is picking on 46 00:03:57.199 --> 00:04:00.479 you too, Steve. So there you go, yes, yeah, yes, 47 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:02.240 it's a bank shot. I get that. Yeah, right, So 48 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:08.280 I have to start the first major topic today with I do have to pick 49 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:12.000 on John a little bit here because this is now the like the fourth major 50 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:19.399 cultural phenomenon, cultural war phenomenon that we had to inform John about last week. 51 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:25.319 It was the target, the bud light and the Disney thing, right, 52 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:28.639 that's what happened last the last time we met. He didn't know about 53 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:31.279 those. We had to tell him this week. John knew nothing about the 54 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:38.560 debacle at the White House when Biden decided to have a Pride celebration. But 55 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:44.800 of course, and what I invited? These just vile people, and two 56 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:47.439 of them decided, so if I'm going to have to get this straight. 57 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:54.439 So there was a man who had had a radical mess sect to me standing 58 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:59.079 next to a woman, excuse me, a trans woman, a woman who 59 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:01.279 had had a radical asssect and made pretending to be a man, and a 60 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:08.199 man who had had breast implants pretending to be a woman, and both of 61 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:13.839 them bared their breasts for the camera right after the one. The woman spoke 62 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:19.040 to Biden and it got huge all over the place, everywhere. I mean 63 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:23.439 even the mainstream media covered this. That's why I don't understand how John didn't 64 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:26.040 see it well, and the White House then dis about it, you know, 65 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:29.319 the Koreean, Jehan, Pierre, Paul Sart, whatever you say is 66 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:36.439 appropriate behavior right only after it became so obviously just foul and people were just 67 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:41.439 I mean people were shocked. Yeah, something like that would happen. That 68 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:46.199 the total lack of decorum, of protocol, all those other things. I 69 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:48.160 mean, there's a lot of protocol that even goes along with being in the 70 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:50.639 White House. I mean usually you have to go to you know, Market 71 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:54.240 Street and Sandrancisco to see a display like that. But now, yeah, 72 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:57.519 but you go there expecting that to happen. You don't go to the White 73 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:01.759 House lawn expecting that to happen. Well, I'm surprised, or maybe this 74 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:05.040 on your dance card, Lucretia that the other thing was, you know how 75 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:10.800 the the south part of south or is it you know, the rounded portico 76 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:15.079 on the one side of the White House facing Okay, we'll go you want 77 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:17.000 to tell no, no, please go ahead. So what they did is 78 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:23.120 they draped two American flags on either side of the Pride flag in the middle. 79 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:28.759 Now, apparently flag protocol is the American flag is always center and where 80 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:32.160 and highest and maybe largest too, probably, and they didn't do that. 81 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:38.319 They made the Pride flag and someone asked Karan John Pierre Paul start about it 82 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:41.639 in the press office, and she just waved it off and said, we're 83 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:46.199 proud of what we did to have this Pride event. And that's well, 84 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:49.439 I don't know it. Maybe like the Presidential Records Act, it's purely civil. 85 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:53.519 There's no criminal penalties. But we'll come to that too, right anyway, 86 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.959 So anyway, John, this thing happened, and uh, you know, 87 00:06:57.079 --> 00:06:59.639 I don't know. I think part of it is, uh, you 88 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:02.079 know, they're is. I'm convinced where you now live in Marin County there 89 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:06.040 is some kind of like invisible shield over the county that that filters out any 90 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:09.759 of this kind of cultural news from getting to that county at all. And 91 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:13.120 that's why you never hear about these things. I do find it interesting, 92 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:16.720 John, because it's not like you're not a well informed person. Look, 93 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:24.560 why point of view is, I sometimes think we're overreacting to all this lbgt 94 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:29.000 Q plus. I think I got them all in. No, you didn't 95 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:34.399 even come Why do you see there's another proof of you don't know what the 96 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:39.480 plus is not good enough? Well, I don't even actually know what the 97 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:42.600 plus means, frankly, I just I see it there. I see like 98 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:50.160 polarization of an electron, because I remember that from high school science. Some 99 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:58.480 version of plus or minus pronouns can be which in Warlock they can be penguin. 100 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:03.079 And I mean there's so many genders now that have their own pronouns. 101 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.040 There's thousands of them. Job well, sometimes it will say plus plus, 102 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:11.000 which is that? Is that? What's the old negative or positive? Well, 103 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:13.480 that's the old thing, right is uh? Is that? You know, 104 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:16.920 there's the famous old story of the philosopher. You used to hear this 105 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:20.800 from what Cohen or one of the Cohens, who said, you know, 106 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:24.800 uh do a double negative makes a positive. But there's no such thing as 107 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:28.720 a double positive making a negative. And some heckler in the audience says, 108 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:37.960 yeah, yeah, which I think so. My My my serious point is 109 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:43.480 I think there's a difference between you know, these sort of symbolic things that 110 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:50.200 these companies and even governments too. I don't really think they hurt anybody. 111 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:54.360 Um, you know, if it's you know, if companies like Target or 112 00:08:54.519 --> 00:09:01.960 Disney or bud Lee want to try to appeal to this you know, demographic, 113 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:05.480 however small it is, or what they're really doing is appealing to write 114 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.720 the people who are sympathetic to the demographic, who want to pretend they're very 115 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:13.759 tolerant and liberal lives, you know, the let them try, right, 116 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.399 Let them try, and the marketplace will judge them. I don't see why 117 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:20.639 people are getting so upset about that, because we have a choice. You 118 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:22.320 know, we don't have to shop at Target. We can shop at Walmart. 119 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.559 The ones I think people should be worried about is, you know, 120 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:31.240 when the compulsion of the state is evolved, like high schools h you know, 121 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:35.200 teaching things, or high schools getting rid of uh, you know, 122 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:39.840 bathrooms based on sex or you know, the nub and you don't see the 123 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:48.679 relationship, you don't. I could always see companies and culture in institutions trying 124 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:54.720 to encourage people in the culture to have the positive view of these groups. 125 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:58.600 But I don't see the compulsion of the state in that. I think that's 126 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.960 I think it's people if you think they're misguided, they're but they're these corporate 127 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:07.399 executives, educators, journalists, and people movie stars. But we don't have 128 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:11.159 to listen to them. Maybe that's why I don't read the storice because I 129 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:13.399 just see it. Oh, here's another stupid thing that some celebrities said. 130 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.919 And so I just sort of or the Dodgers, right, the Dodgers can't 131 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.759 make me. I mean, I already hate the Dodgers anyway, so this 132 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:22.639 is just piling it on. But I don't have to go to Dodgers. 133 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:26.919 I don't have to agree with them. Okay, So I don't know what 134 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:31.159 I'm asking is why did people on the right get so use People on the 135 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:37.840 left have been boycotting and complaining and shutting down the speech of anybody. I 136 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:41.600 mean, remember Chick fil A is my best example. Chick fil A, 137 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:48.919 you know, Christian company closed on Sundays. That was enough for the LGBTQ 138 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:56.559 nyp x x q Q plus plus people to boycott them. Okay, so 139 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:01.039 they had a lot of support from people on the right, and that seemed 140 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:05.720 like a really good thing, and then all of a sudden they decided to 141 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:11.279 go the other direction, and they no longer support any sort of Christian values, 142 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:20.480 and they're courting, courting the left in many many ways. And oh 143 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:22.320 you know, I won't. I won't go there anymore. I won't. 144 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:26.600 The left was really good at those boycotts, and they worked, and they 145 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:33.000 forced people throughout the culture to do things their way. And let me one 146 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.320 last thing, Stephen, and I'll let you go. But Richard Samuelson sent 147 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:43.559 us an email he got this past week from AT and T celebrating Father's Day 148 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:50.919 for your father and their happy day. I forget exactly what it said, 149 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:56.679 your father singular and their happy day? How is a father not a his? 150 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:01.559 How is a father not a his? Why do they have to shove 151 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:05.039 it down our throats? Are you sure that wasn't just a gradical Well maybe 152 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.720 maybe it was. Oh it was very obvious. It was done several times. 153 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:13.919 You didn't you see it? He sent it to YouTube. But anyway, 154 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:16.120 So if I want to not shop at AT and T, which I've 155 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.759 been for with whom I've been a customer for years, it's it's a pretty 156 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.720 major thing. I just don't want AT and T to shove that down my 157 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:28.600 throat. I don't want I don't want to turn on my own podcast and 158 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:35.399 here for breeze. Tell me how their month is so important and isn't that 159 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:39.440 let's be our owners. We're here. We're here from a lot of a 160 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:43.320 lot of listeners saying, hey, you guys, can't believe the ads I'm 161 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.799 getting. Of course, the listeners you should understand to say a public service 162 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.759 announcement. Uh, the ads are not in our control. They're localized. 163 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.559 John seems to get McDonald's ads because that shows their spot. I know, 164 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.480 I get McDonald's Dutch, I get like these great American company ads. I 165 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:03.559 don't know why you're listening to the creature that causes the the AI to give 166 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:09.600 you for precess. But here's the thing, John is, Yeah, you 167 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:11.519 don't have a culture war bone on your body. Okay, that's fine. 168 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.519 Oh I'm Mike. I mean, like, what's the big deal? That's 169 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:16.600 what I think. Michael, You're like, it's a big deal. We 170 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:24.919 shouldn't be fighting about a lot of so five years normal for teachers to force 171 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:31.919 little children to put their pronouns down or to choose different pronouns, or to 172 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:37.600 groom them into becoming a different sex, and to have a school district officials 173 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.919 past rules that say they have mandatory they have to hide it from the parents. 174 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:48.679 That only becomes acceptable when all of those corporations and so on. Yeah, 175 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:52.720 well push this agenda. So that's my belief. This week, the 176 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:58.919 Secretary of Health and Human Services but Sarah here from California, has said that 177 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:03.279 the my dedministration is preparing to cut off grants to hospitals in any states that 178 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:09.759 ban or restrict, you know, hormone treatment for children, for people under 179 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.360 eighteen. So the point is this, the Left is the aggressor on all 180 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:16.879 this. If this was simply a matter of saying live and let live, 181 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:20.559 leave people alone, give them, you know, support them to the extent 182 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:24.559 that I feel they need to support something. But instead they are the aggressors 183 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:28.919 and all this. And there was an interesting moment into hearing this week, 184 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.159 and I posted a little clip on Powerline on this and it was some very 185 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:37.480 powerful testimony from a Oh, by the way, that's the other thing is 186 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:41.320 if you raise a criticism about what's going on, well you're a bigot and 187 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:46.000 a hater. And there's this great moment in a house hearing this week where 188 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:50.600 a very I forget the moment's name, but very qualified doctor going through that 189 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:56.039 there is very a little serious scientific evidence on behalf of treating children with hormone 190 00:14:56.039 --> 00:15:00.279 blockers and all the you know, really radical things that have to take placed 191 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.039 to do this. It's one thing to say, you know, you're gay 192 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:05.840 or lesbian or something. It's another thing to say, we're now going to 193 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:11.000 give you chemical castration, essentially in life waltering surgery to change at the age 194 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:15.879 of fourteen. And so she was going through, how all the European nations 195 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:20.639 that have now stopped this, Cold England, all the Scandinavian countries, and 196 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:24.120 I got to thinking that nobody had the wit to ask the question that I 197 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:26.120 would have asked, which is, you know, we always hear from the 198 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:33.000 left how enlightened and tolerant and open minded those Scandinavian socialists are, and see 199 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:37.279 yet they have all slammed the door very hard on all this. My question 200 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:39.600 would have been to one of the defenders of this, So are all those 201 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:43.360 Scandinavian socialists so they now suddenly bigots and haters. So there's part of it 202 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:46.559 is the recoil against being told that, you know, if you have reservations 203 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:48.600 about this, I think you're well founded. That you're a biggot and the 204 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:54.519 hater and by the way, you know, and then you get hyperbole about 205 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:58.799 supposedly banning books in Florida, which isn't true. And so here's the thing 206 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:02.039 about I'm kind of with. I mean, the marketplace is speaking about Target 207 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:06.639 and bud Light and all the rest of that, but only only because of 208 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:11.639 the outcry. Yeah, there's lots of people not I was standing behind somebody 209 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:14.480 in line at a different store the other day and they're saying, you, 210 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:15.879 after this, we'll have to go to Target and see what they have. 211 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:19.120 And I wanted to tell them what kind of people go to Target? What's 212 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:22.519 wrong with you? Are you just? Are you groomers too? Are you 213 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:26.840 pedophiles? I mean, that's how angry it makes me, because you know 214 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:30.759 what they sell at Target. Well, oh, well that relates to another 215 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:33.879 part of this, which was, you know, the female athletes. There's 216 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.279 another one now from University of Pennsylvania's come forward and said, you know, 217 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:41.279 we were told that we would lose our scholarships, we risked being it maybe 218 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:48.000 even expelled from the college if we criticize Leah Thomas swimming in the women's swim 219 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:51.399 team. So that kind of thing is going on. So then along comes 220 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:53.519 Target and okay, it's one thing that they want to have Pride Month and 221 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:57.799 a rainbow banner, but they were advertising and selling. They withdrew these, 222 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.759 by the way, but they were at the beginning of this selling you know, 223 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:06.960 Tuck Friendly quote unquote women swimwear for and that just sort of inflamed that 224 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:10.920 whole controversy, and I think Target thought better of this. They still have 225 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:14.640 those displays up, but they've withdrawn some of the merchandise. So the marketplace 226 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:17.720 is speaking. And by the way, there's evidence in the last couple of 227 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:22.240 weeks that corporations are starting very fast to back off on all of this because 228 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:25.119 they realize that there's a market punishment for it. So there maybe I'm with 229 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:26.480 you, John, and that's where I agree with you about that part. 230 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:30.599 John. What I don't agree with is that it's harmless. I don't agree 231 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:36.160 with you that it's harmless, and I don't I guess what I see is 232 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:41.839 the left's cultural war, as Steve says, though the aggressor has been so 233 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:49.079 radically successful in such a short amount of time, where on television they can 234 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:52.359 put I know I've talked about this before. But they can put a professor 235 00:17:52.480 --> 00:18:00.599 from a university who says, why shouldn't adults Why shouldn't it be lawful for 236 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:03.640 adults to force children to have sex with them against their will? Because we 237 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:07.039 force children to do things all the time like go to their sister's recital. 238 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:15.599 That guy's mainstream now because all of these corporations celebrate it. We see it 239 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.480 on TV or I don't know, I don't watch TV anymore, but you 240 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:22.960 see ads everywhere, and that has an effect on people, making them think 241 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.680 this is normal. I guess if I'm going to be normal, if I'm 242 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:30.160 going to be hip, if I'm going to be up with the times, 243 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.240 I have to go along with this too. I have to take my kid 244 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:37.079 to drag Queen's Story Hour because if I don't, my suburban mom friends are 245 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:41.119 going to think I'm a bigot or something. You know, that's the problem 246 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:45.519 with it. They win if we don't fight back hard. That's what I 247 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:47.680 believe. Can I add one, we're early beating up on you now, 248 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:51.400 John, there's been beating up on him. I'm really not trying to. 249 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:56.079 I didn't notice. Well there is a philosophical angle to this too, and 250 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:00.000 and partly I'm thinking about Pat Pat de Neane's new book about the post liberal 251 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:06.480 order. Part of what's going on here is we supposedly have this epidemic of 252 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:11.839 gender dysphoria, and I'm dubious that it's really a truly an epidemic among young 253 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:15.000 people, that it's a sword in the last decade. It does remind me 254 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:18.759 a bit of anorexia thirty years ago and other things of this kind well, 255 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:22.200 and social media. There's a contagging effect of all this. But at the 256 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:26.319 back of all this is something much more serious that we don't talk about, 257 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:30.000 which is the premise of this from the left is unlimited individual autonomy to define 258 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:33.640 yourself, including that you know, the really crazy people say, well, 259 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:36.920 I really I'm a furry. I really want to be an animal, and 260 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:40.440 you know, people will dress up. Really do they see how they do 261 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:44.759 that? People want to be animals? And are they at some point? 262 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:47.640 I mean, at first I'm thinking, what is this like Civil War reenactment? 263 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:49.240 They're having fun being animals? Fine, but it does appear that some 264 00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:55.119 people are deeply committed to this idea and they're actually serious about this in a 265 00:19:55.119 --> 00:20:00.759 way that's incomprehensible. They get surgeries. They well, I don't, well, 266 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:03.079 go to mean surgery. Just send them to the Serengetti with no clothes 267 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:06.880 and implements and see how long they last. Ah. Now, see you're 268 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:08.440 bringing up the core point, John, and then I'll stop, which is 269 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:12.319 nature right there? Yeah, the core of so much of the left is 270 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:17.960 the denial of nature, human nature, and the bounds of nature. And 271 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:21.359 by the way, I mean, you know, I've started tracking this more 272 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:25.079 than ten years ago. Bringing up the subject of human nature on a college 273 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:30.480 campus can be a risky thing to do because it does introduce a challenge to 274 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:34.319 the premise of unlimited liberal autonomy. And that's what some of the national conservatives 275 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:37.960 like Pat nine are on about, saying we need to rethink all this. 276 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:40.880 This is a long running story. But I'll try to sort of stop there 277 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:45.319 and say this has got a lot of implications beyond just brag Queen's story hour 278 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:48.319 or you know, targets, bathing suits and things of that kind. It's 279 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.799 a serious thing going on here. So yeah, I don't blame you for 280 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:55.160 ignoring it, though, John, I try not to. I mean, 281 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:57.720 I really don't. It's not like it's clickbait for me. I don't want 282 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:02.880 to know, but I guess I just it's everywhere, you know, it's 283 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:06.680 just everywhere. So okay, change the subject onto something John wants to talk 284 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:08.680 about. You're gonna have to convince me on this one, John, because 285 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:17.119 I don't get it. So John has an answer for Trump's legal difficulties. 286 00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:22.839 Yeah, outside the box answer about the indictment. So we probably we've talked 287 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:27.599 about on the show about the indictment already, and everybody else has problems. 288 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:32.200 It has, everybody else has here. But I haven't heard anybody says my 289 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:36.680 idea for a solution, which would be and it would be I think it 290 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:41.440 would be earth shattering for the political firmament. Would be what if Biden took 291 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:49.480 the high road, did the statesmanlike thing and pardon Trump. He would pardon 292 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:55.720 Trump and say, okay, your condition of you accepting the pardon is that 293 00:21:55.759 --> 00:22:00.400 you admitted you did these things, but you're completely flee free and year no 294 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:04.640 prosecution. You can never be prosecuted, and now let's have a free and 295 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:11.119 fair fight. Monoamano. For the twenty twenty four presidential election, what did 296 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:15.960 that be the statesmanlike thing to do? It? Would you know? It 297 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:22.359 would aboard this idea of prosecuting former predent aboard the idea of prosecuting former presidents. 298 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:29.200 It would stop us from crossing that line into prosecuting the candidate of the 299 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:33.960 major opposition party for president. And I think it would restore the annoyman and 300 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:41.359 I think Biden would get big points from the electorate for being the statesman rather 301 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:47.680 than being the one who launched a biased, biased prosecution. I mean, 302 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:49.519 I mean, I think actually, in many ways that was one of the 303 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:56.039 greatest things for it ever did, was to pardon Nixon, and Biden could 304 00:22:56.079 --> 00:23:00.279 have that sort of similar judgment of history. But anyway, yes, I 305 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:06.160 know the odds are very low, but wouldn't it be an unbelievably statesmanlike thing 306 00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:08.920 for Biden to do. I also thought, I recommended in twenty sixteen that 307 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:14.480 Trump should have pardoned Hillary in the same way, but yeah, he never 308 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:18.799 did either. You know, I am going to be very interested to see 309 00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:22.759 what comments we get from listeners on this idea, So all right, I'll 310 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:27.119 give you a couple of my observations. First of all, Biden has neither 311 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:32.640 the magnanimity nor the cynicism to think of the possibilities of that maneuver, because, 312 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:34.119 by the way I think it would be could be a genius political move 313 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:38.200 for some of the reasons you suggest, but he has neither the magnanimity to 314 00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:42.960 present it the way you did, nor the cynicism to think through how it 315 00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:48.240 might divide the Republican electorate or the risks to the look. Remember, there's 316 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:52.880 a lot of Democrats whose fondest things to see Trump go to prison, and 317 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:56.759 they would be very discipline. The MSNBC people will be out of their minds. 318 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:00.839 I can't imagine the partner would be offered without the condition Trump not run. 319 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:04.599 Trump would never take that condition. I doubt Trump would take the condition 320 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:08.519 that he admit to wrong doing because he doesn't think he did anything wrong and 321 00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:11.640 he has to stick to that position and maybe he should. So I don't 322 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.839 think he would ever agree to that condition. Um So, I think it's 323 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:18.200 a mood point. But you know, I do think it would be a 324 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:22.119 genius moved to make a clear and unconditional pardon and then say what you said, 325 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:25.440 John, let's now go to the electorate on the issues and not on 326 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:30.279 this crazy business. And in what universe does Biden want to go to the 327 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:32.440 electorate on the issue. Oh no, I don't think. I think you're 328 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:37.519 right. He doesn't have any of the This would be a good plot for 329 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:41.079 a novel, I think, John, But it doesn't. It doesn't exist 330 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:45.079 in this world. Yeah, I mean the Nixon pardon, remember, hurt 331 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:47.880 Ford quite a lot. I mean, it arguably cost him reelection. I 332 00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:49.720 mean, you know, liberating Poland and the debates was a blunder too. 333 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:56.680 But I didn't have time to check this today. But my recollection, which 334 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:00.799 I'm sure is incomplete and maybe wrong, is that the four people wanted to 335 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:06.200 get some kind of concession from Nixon, either that he admit guilt or not 336 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:08.599 contests. I forget what it was, and Nixon's people refused, and Ford 337 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:11.279 went ahead with the pardon anyway because he wanted to put it all behind us. 338 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:15.519 And it was only in later years that people like you know, he 339 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:19.079 got the John F. Kennedy profile and Courage Award, what twenty years after 340 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:22.400 he was out of office. Right at the time, everybody was after him 341 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:26.200 for it was corrupt and you might remember, John, Actually you won't, 342 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:30.880 you were too young. Ford took the rare step of a sitting president appearing 343 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:33.960 before either a house or Senator, maybe joint committee to answer questions about the 344 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.119 pardon, to clear the air that there was no corrupt bargain here. I 345 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:40.319 just thought it was the right thing to do, and the president does not 346 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:45.279 have to do that, but he did yes anyway, and you can't see 347 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.799 Biden ever thinking doing that either. So I love the idea. I love 348 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:53.839 listeners think it's because it's crackpot as usual. John Well, I no, 349 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:59.640 I get. I totally understand what John's saying. It's just like I said, 350 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:03.240 it's doesn't work in this universe. I do want to mention something Steve 351 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:10.400 said about dividing the Republicans. I have been never in my life, and 352 00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:15.880 you know how much I despise Republicans most of the time. Anyway, the 353 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:21.720 bill bar thing the Republicans who are coming out and piling on. Here's what's 354 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:26.880 happening. The Biden administration, the powers in Washington. They need Trump to 355 00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:33.119 go down something awful. And this whole scam of an indictment against Trump is 356 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:37.559 so ridiculous. But unless they can get the Bill barrs and the Mitch McConnell's 357 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.799 and the Paul Ryan's of the world to come out and say, oh, 358 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:45.920 Trump. What Trump did was treason. What Trump did it's not even in 359 00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:51.359 the same plane as what Hillary did or what you know, and they go 360 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:56.559 on and on and on. Stupid asked Jonah Goldberg had a piece in the 361 00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.799 LA Times the other day, and it made me just one to go shoot 362 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.680 him because, oh, you know, nobody's trying to defend what it is 363 00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:08.279 that Trump really did. They're just talking about, well, Hilary did it 364 00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:12.880 too. He is so full of you know what that is. I at 365 00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:18.519 least maybe he doesn't count me as important enough. I there's absolutely perfectly good 366 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:22.759 reasons to defend what Trump did. And we talked about him last week. 367 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:27.319 I'm not going to do it again. But the idea that these Republicans are 368 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:32.319 coming out in their smarmy sort of way, oh yeah, well you know 369 00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:37.319 Trump's really going to go down this time. I hate them all. I 370 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.440 hate them. I just want you to know that I feel better now, 371 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:49.960 thank you better. How do we get off on all this because you said 372 00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:55.680 something about it, if if if John's proposed scheme actually worked, it would 373 00:27:55.680 --> 00:28:00.079 actually tear apart the Republican Party because they wanted him to go down, I 374 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.200 mean, work the ounther side of the street, which is I think there 375 00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:07.559 are a lot of Republicans who are in this sort of symmetrical cage match with 376 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:10.160 the Trump hating left, which is, they want Trump to fight this. 377 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:11.960 They kind of would like to have a trial. They want him to defy 378 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:18.319 the man. And I think there are some Trumpsters who would be disappointed if 379 00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:22.880 Biden gave him a pardon. That's why. That's why. Also the pardon 380 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.480 thing is a good I mean, it's a useful thing to think about because 381 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:32.960 there's a story out this week that went right after the Mari mar Laga search, 382 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.640 Trump's new lawyers said, let's go have a lead deal with the Justice 383 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.079 Department. We could get you no jail time, a misdemeanor, maybe a 384 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:45.920 fine, and the whole thing will go away. It'll be quiet. And 385 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:49.880 Trump would have none of it. He's not interested in any compromise. They 386 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:53.400 said. She saw this as an opportunity to, you know, to fight 387 00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:57.119 that. He wanted to have a fight with the just Department. And so 388 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:03.160 I think one thing the pardons part an offer, which shows that it actually 389 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.319 it actually helps Trump to be prosecuted. He doesn't want to have a pardon, 390 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:10.039 he might he wants to, he wants to win. He thinks it 391 00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:14.680 increases his support in the Republican Party. Yeah, and I think it's institutionally 392 00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:18.519 a terrible thing for the republic Yeah. Well, John, can a person 393 00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.920 decline a pardon? I've never Yeah, sure, you have to accept it. 394 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.559 So that's why usually you can say, to take the pardon, you 395 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:30.720 have to admit that you did it. Well, what if he didn't have 396 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.400 that stipulation, what if he just said, your pardon, that's it. 397 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:38.240 Period, You can reject, you can you can decline a parton And so 398 00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.559 the second problem then, also John, is that you know, we have 399 00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.839 these two other prosecutions uh in process. Right, you have Latitia James in 400 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:49.640 New York wants to bring I don't know, some securities fraud or something about 401 00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:52.799 the New York business. And then there's the Georgia stuff, the Georgia Grand 402 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.720 jury. And and by the way, these things seem to be time to 403 00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.880 drop every two or three months, so that there's a new thing, come 404 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.160 at Trump. It will generate in other weeks with the headlines from now till 405 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.240 the end of the year. And so even a pardon for this case I 406 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.640 would not get Trump. You know what, happens in the next two cases 407 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.920 were back in the same place we are right now. It doesn't have part 408 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.720 of federal pardon, does not relieve you of state crimes. So though I 409 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.160 don't find the state charges to be so, it wouldn't put an end of 410 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.200 this whole circus, is that? Yeah? So what about Trump's This is 411 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:30.559 why I think he wouldn't accept the pardon, because Trump's been very fond of 412 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:34.359 saying lately, and this is one of his more powerful arguments. This isn't 413 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:37.920 They're not coming after me, They're coming after you. And you know that 414 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:44.680 that that has resonance with people because because we've seen that they'll go after the 415 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.640 Daniel Perry's of the world, and they'll go after you know, they won't 416 00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:56.279 prosecute just scum of the earth, and they'll prosecute good, decent citizens. 417 00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:02.319 They'll put January six protesters in jail and solitary confinement. So people are beginning. 418 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:06.319 They'll you know, show up with a swat team at a preacher's house 419 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:08.880 and wait with his eleven kids or whatever it was. You know that on 420 00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:14.559 and on and on, the stories get worse and worse, and when Trump 421 00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:18.960 says it's it's this isn't me fighting. This isn't just about me fighting this, 422 00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:22.160 because they're going to come after you if I don't fight this. And 423 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.319 I think that's powerful because I think it's true. I think that anybody who 424 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:32.880 supports Trump is in danger of being taken off after by the police state, 425 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:37.759 that is, the Biden administration and their their Adam cronies in state governments. 426 00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:44.160 I believe that now it's it's pretty obvious the idea that they would do this 427 00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.319 indictment or allow those state indictments and not just you know, somebody should have 428 00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:53.839 come down hard on Letitia idiot she is and Alvin braggs is even. I 429 00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:59.480 mean, the two of them together probably can't reach room temperature for an IQ. 430 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:02.799 Why doesn't the Democratic Party put us stop to this, because of course 431 00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:08.720 they won't anyway. I'm I'm with John on the fundamental issue that this is 432 00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:13.359 terrible for the Republic, but we may not have a choice but to fight 433 00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.440 it out at this point. I agree with you, John, for once, 434 00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.039 I don't think you are although you said you are. Now I agree 435 00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:28.359 with the party. Where do you say this whole thing is a terrible development. 436 00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.359 It's an absolutely I mean, we may never recover from it, is 437 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:35.359 what it comes down to. If you're if the Republicans were to get into 438 00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.000 power, the only thing that's probably going to save us is the Republicans are 439 00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:44.039 never going to do tit for tat because you know, they refuse to they 440 00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:47.599 refuse to fight, and so they probably wouldn't go after Biden the same way 441 00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:52.079 these people have gone after Trump. But somebody will someday. I mean, 442 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:59.160 the president's been set and it's just let's use the police state of the federal 443 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:05.559 government to take out our political opponents. Isn't that handy? Yeah, that's 444 00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:07.400 really I don't care what you think about Trump. You can hate Trump and 445 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:13.839 still look at this and say this is this is just not acceptable. That's 446 00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:16.519 my opinion. You guys know that I don't have to tell you, so 447 00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:21.400 let me ask you, Steve Um. Well, it will be interesting to 448 00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.240 see if we have any commenters who who agree with John that this would be 449 00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:31.839 the great statesmanlike thing for for the pedophile, senile president to do. It'd 450 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:35.920 be great, um. And then then the mop head could tell us all 451 00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.880 why why he did it? Um, And so yeah, they'd be wonderful, 452 00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:46.039 wouldn't it Steve, you have a tribal adoption case you want to talk 453 00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.559 about, Well, I don't know that. I mean, the only we're 454 00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.039 you know, we're waiting on the big case of course, the Harvard and 455 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.000 unc an affirmative action. Then what else, John, do we still haven't 456 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:58.680 in our big cases? Yeah, we have the bigger not bigger, but 457 00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:01.559 really big one is that canceling of the student loans. Oh right, the 458 00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:05.240 student loan case. Right, so you know we were hoping here, and 459 00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:07.519 then the wedding the religious wedding planners the third oh right, yeah, so 460 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:10.559 those three those three years still and you know, here we are middle of 461 00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:14.760 June and we're hoping for another. You know, the Voting Rights Act case 462 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:16.760 last week was big case. Though we get maybe one this week and we 463 00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:21.239 didn't. What we got was I don't think we should spend a lot of 464 00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:25.559 time on this, but we got this case, uh involving an statute I 465 00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:30.119 forget the name of it from the nineteen seventies and am being Child Welfare Act. 466 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.039 Was that the Indian Child Weelf reacted and what the court upheld by the 467 00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:39.400 seven two vote was that the act was constitutional in particular it's stipulations that Native 468 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:45.800 American children who are up for adoption, the adoption agencies could be restricted to 469 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:52.239 placing the children with a family in the tribe or with another Indian tribe elsewhere 470 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:57.079 before you went to the more general population something like that, and it had 471 00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:01.239 been changes. It's it's even worse than that. It how any in any 472 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:07.079 Indian tribe, not even the one the kid is from, to invoke their 473 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:14.920 right to force adoption of a child to go to an Indian Indian parents and 474 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:21.920 override all state law about adoptions. And states generally have full power over family 475 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:23.639 law. So that I didn't read. I didn't have time to read the 476 00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:27.639 case, but from the news accounts I read in a couple of you know, 477 00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:32.079 short analyzes here and there online, it seemed like the equal protection challenge 478 00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:38.480 failed. What they said was this is not Indians have always been recognized as 479 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:43.239 a certain amount of sovereignty, and so that makes it not. I mean, 480 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:46.119 I've always made a lot about that, those little sentences people pass over, 481 00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:52.400 those little clauses people pass over in the Constitution to talk about Indians not 482 00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.440 taxed, and that's always an interesting phase that no one thinks about. It's 483 00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:59.320 not much relevant anymore, but what it was was defining who was part of 484 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:02.440 the political unity. If an Indian, a Native American, you know, 485 00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:07.559 participated in the New American society, you know, they had a job, 486 00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:12.800 or you know, they moved into Philadelphia or so forth and became a citizen 487 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.320 and their citizen. But if they want to stay on with their indigenous tribes, 488 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.360 then we leave them alone. I mean that's the notion, right, 489 00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:24.119 And so there seems to be a legacy that Indians were always considered a separate 490 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.800 people if they wanted to be, and that's kind of the way things have 491 00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.719 fallen out in our history. So I don't know. I did notice that 492 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:34.719 the dissenters or Thomas and Scalia, who said, wait a minute, it 493 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:39.400 ought to be they ought to have strict scrutiny from equal protection grounds, And 494 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:44.559 I mean that it seems a good argument. But I think the majority opinion 495 00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:50.760 John was written by Barrett Right, who who had died a Haitian child, 496 00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.920 let us remember, and that attracted a lot of attacks from the race spaders 497 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:58.480 like Abrahm Kendy when she was nominated in really awful ways. Right anyway, 498 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:04.719 Well, I think this is one level more interesting and one level less interesting. 499 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.000 So the less interesting thing is that the you're right, the equal protection 500 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:13.760 clause argument failed, and an equal protection clause our argument could be how can 501 00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:19.599 the federal government take race into account at all in adoptions? But it wasn't 502 00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.719 that at loss. It's that the courts said, we can't reach the question 503 00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:28.360 because this lawsuit was brought against the federal government by Texas, not by any 504 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:30.960 individual parent. It was brought by Texas, and the courts said, how 505 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:37.519 does Texas have a right to claim the federal government is violating equality amongst the 506 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.880 races because this Texas doesn't have a race, so they so Actually, the 507 00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:49.159 equal protection clause claim just needs to be brought by say, non Indian parents 508 00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.960 who adopt an Indian kid and then Indian kids taken away or they are not 509 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:57.280 allowed to get an Indian kid in the first place. But it's more interesting 510 00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:04.199 because what the majority already did, and this is why Thomas and Alito dissented, 511 00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:09.800 is a majority said Indians are different and so Indian. The power the 512 00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:16.679 federal government over Indians is so vast that it can override all state family law. 513 00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:20.920 And states are the power, you know, states are the ones that 514 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:25.039 regulate all FA divorces, marriages, adoptions, and so on for several reasons. 515 00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:29.920 Is what's interesting is like, for one, there's an Indian Commerce clause 516 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:35.400 which is separate than the interstate commerce clause, and that seems this Indian Commerce 517 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.519 clause seems to be way broader than right the domestico because I don't think people 518 00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:44.159 would say, oh, the federal government under the commerce clause can take over 519 00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:47.320 all adoptions in the country, right, I think that would lose at the 520 00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:52.000 court. But if it's the Indian Commerce clause, suddenly you can take over 521 00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:55.320 adoptions in the country. Then the second point that the Court makes, which 522 00:38:55.320 --> 00:39:00.800 I think is quite weak, is the treaty power allows the federal government to 523 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:05.920 do things it's not otherwise allowed to do. Than Justice Thomas says, Oh, 524 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:12.880 by the way, there's no treaty here. Okay, that's a great 525 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:16.280 point. Can I add that the fact that they're the centers in this one 526 00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:21.199 more the only interesting case of the week. You may have missed this, 527 00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:23.320 John, I don't know since you've been traveling, but Governor to Santis had 528 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:27.159 an interesting comment earlier in the week. He said, no, no, 529 00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:29.760 I'm elected. Yeah, what'd he say? Well, we're gonna love it. 530 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.119 He said, if I'm elected president, I'm going to appoint justices like 531 00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:37.679 Thomas and Alito. I'm not those squishes like Trump appointed. Did he really 532 00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:42.280 yes, I didn't say squishes like TRUMPA. I forget what language you use. 533 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.000 But oh see, he had said that that would have been incredible. 534 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:46.280 Well, well, you know, it does take it back to uh. 535 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:51.400 I remember it was in I think two thousand and eight, and actually George 536 00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:52.679 W. Bush had said the same thing in two thousand and two thousand and 537 00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.360 eight. Rudy Giuliani, who I met early in this campaign, by the 538 00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.440 way, to talk about energy. He said, if I'm elected president, 539 00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:04.199 I'm going to point justice is like Thomas and Scalia. And I almost want 540 00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:07.679 to post an article for the Washington Post because I knew the op ed editor 541 00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:09.639 of Time it was now with the New York Times anyway, and it was 542 00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:14.480 going to be really a marriage which one. You know, they're not the 543 00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.760 same, you know, um right, And it goes back to that old 544 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:20.920 argument you had about the two of them. But so I think the Sandis 545 00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:23.599 is actually onto something here. He's out ahead of you know. He went 546 00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:27.239 on to pray. You know, he said he have Gorst and Barrett they're 547 00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:29.719 you know, they're fine people. They've done some good things, but they're 548 00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.119 not as good as Thomas and Alito. And I'm gonna make Mike sure mine 549 00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:37.360 or as good as Thomas. I thought that was a lot of fun for 550 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.840 him. Yeah, yeah, good for him. So that leads me to 551 00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:46.159 me, do you think though, that the Republican primary voters get that Oh? 552 00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:50.199 Sorry, do you think that Republican primary voters will get that distinction? 553 00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.920 Because you know, if you think about it, um, So, if 554 00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.239 this is Barrett's decision, that's not you know, this is her Yeah, 555 00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:59.119 I know one, you know, I I think like each justice gets one 556 00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:01.960 bad decision. To me, if this is Barrett's course, such as is 557 00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:09.760 Bostock the one that said right title seven sexual orient and his Indian case in 558 00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:16.519 Oklahoma Havanah right just voted with Chief just as Roberts in the racial redistricting case. 559 00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:21.119 So each of those have you know, each of them have actually have 560 00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:24.280 at least one, uh, I would say bad vote in an important case. 561 00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:30.760 So far. Yeah, I don't know if it'll be yeah, yeah, 562 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.599 I don't know. So this is my So here's something you guys aren't 563 00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:38.360 very good at, which is how to think like a moderate. So if 564 00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:44.679 you're a moderate about that one. So here's so for you guys, you 565 00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.719 two, here's my how to think like a moderate one on one, which 566 00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:52.320 is my hope. Is the reason they're doing that is they're giving these small 567 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:59.199 victories to the left before they strike the big victory for conservatives on the horror 568 00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.559 Affirmative Act case. So my sense is the way Roberts or Kavanaugh thinks is 569 00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:06.320 if I'm gonna, you know, give the Republic, you know, not 570 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.639 from the conservatives, a big victory, and I got to give some things 571 00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:15.599 to the liberals so that it so that I look moderate and everybody doesn't hate 572 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:19.519 me too much. Yeah, So how often was that done, say by 573 00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.599 the Warren Court. No, No, that's not a court of modest This 574 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:28.280 is how I kind of try to understand Justice O'Connor or Justice Kennedy. Who 575 00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:32.280 wants to understand that? What I mean, it's you want to understand it 576 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:37.000 so you can stamp it out. Maybe we're just asking to get smacked around, 577 00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:39.400 John. No, I mean, like this is how a lot of 578 00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:43.320 people think, right, Like a lot of people in the country are moderates, 579 00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.199 and they I think like, this is why I used to understand them. 580 00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.159 Justice Kennedy or O'Connor would be like, well, the more they would 581 00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:52.960 do something for conservatives, I'd be really worried, because I meant, there's 582 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:54.719 gonna be a big decision that they're going to give to the liberals because they 583 00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:59.920 just feel the need to balance. Well, it is true that the Voting 584 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:04.079 Rights Act case did confuse the left. Last week. It was, you 585 00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:07.199 know, the agree in the Guardian and the Republic that oh my god, 586 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:10.559 the court, what my goodness, they actually saved the Voting Rights Act and 587 00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:15.599 we can't we can't explain this, but they're still terrible. So my point, 588 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:17.639 mac John is if that view is true, and I'm with Lucretia, 589 00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:21.719 that's a terrible way to think about things and calculate things if you're justice. 590 00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:27.039 But if that's true, then the Harvard UNC decision better be quirking strong. 591 00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:30.800 In other words, we don't want another sequel tobacky. In the Michigan case, 592 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:32.360 it says, well, well, you can't have quotas, but in 593 00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:37.719 a bunch of weazel words, it better be unequivocal like Brownbert actually brown sport 594 00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:42.480 one that on a never mind. The point is to be unequivocal and lay 595 00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.880 the ground so that every district court you walk into with a case challenging a 596 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:51.480 practice, the federal judge says, this decision is really clear, and you 597 00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:54.079 can't do what you're doing otherwise it's not going to change very much, is 598 00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:59.000 what I think. Okay, So here's here's my point. I wanted to 599 00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:02.519 bring up John and that is uh, Steve. Actually, I guess had 600 00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:05.840 a blog post and I read it. I forgot it was Steve's. It 601 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:10.280 was in my mind. Um, sorry it was not. But I had 602 00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:15.840 a friend called me and say, you know, Kennedy versus Bremerton overturned lemon 603 00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:20.199 Lemon. The lemon test was abandoned in that case. But you haven't seen 604 00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:25.639 even the slightest difference. Will you tell people what you what you're talking about. 605 00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:31.599 The lemon test was basically the one that says you can't pray anywhere where 606 00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:37.920 you might Yeah, I hear it right where someone might hear it, because 607 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.719 somehow that's a and and so it was a three pronged test. I don't 608 00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:44.960 remember the prongs off the top of my head right now, but um, 609 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:52.440 basically it destroyed the possibility in many cases of being able to say, for 610 00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:54.519 instance, a prayer at the beginning of a high school or at the end 611 00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:59.480 of a high school graduation. If there's ever a time when, even if 612 00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:01.599 you don't leave a god, you ought to at least you know, that's 613 00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:05.480 on that one, and pray when you're sending out a bunch of dumb high 614 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.039 school kids into the world. Anyway, That's always been my belief. But 615 00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:14.280 so Lemon was a terrible decision, and the Chords abided by it after what 616 00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:17.880 almost fifty years In Kennedy versus Bremerton, they said, we're abandoning it. 617 00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:23.079 And they know there's some historical circumstances this and that, but nothing. Nothing 618 00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:29.079 has changed anywhere. Nothing people. You know, I had to explain it, 619 00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:34.960 Steve. It ought to have been a major decision. Think about the 620 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.119 New York case, the gun control case. Are you guys any freer Not 621 00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:42.760 that you'd do it, but are you any freer to buy the fifty cow 622 00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:46.480 I just bought? Are you are you able to buy suppressors for your guns? 623 00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:49.840 Are you able to you know? On and on and on and on 624 00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:52.320 and on. All of these things, not just state by state, but 625 00:45:52.719 --> 00:46:00.079 the ATF is constantly looking for new ways to impose ridiculous rules on gun owners 626 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:05.880 And you know, so what happened with the Second Amendment cases, Every single 627 00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:10.920 one of them has gotten progressively more in favor of fewer restrictions by states, 628 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.920 fewer restrictions on gun ownership, etc. And then we talk about the Harvard 629 00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:21.960 case. How many of us really think that even if the Supreme Court comes 630 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:27.199 out with a very strong opinion, the kind Steve said that he wants that 631 00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:30.239 it's going to make any difference. How many of us think it's going to 632 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:36.280 make any difference. Well, I mean, I understand the good reasons for 633 00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:38.719 skepticism. Uh, and you know my post was about how they're already getting 634 00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:40.639 ready to cheat. On the other hand, I think this is true, 635 00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:45.400 John, And you can say more about it. You know, prop was 636 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:51.559 a propine what's the proper probably the one band affirmative action in California. It 637 00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:55.360 has had some effect on it admissions in California. Oh yeah, what was 638 00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:58.519 it, Prop one ninety eight? I can't remember the right name of it, 639 00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:01.079 something like that. Yeah, any way, it had Now they have 640 00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:06.800 it's a little hard to tell, uh, they have, but but it 641 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.639 didn't make some changes for the good. And uh, you know, Gail 642 00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:13.920 Harriet has all the numbers on all this. By the way, John did 643 00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:16.119 I got interviewed by that Michael Powell, reporter of the New York Times about 644 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:19.920 all of this. Did he talk to you? Also? I think no 645 00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.159 he didn't. Okay, Uh, Well they were they were looking for the 646 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:28.000 moderates on campus. Well, he called me up. And anyway, he 647 00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.639 had a big story about all this this last week. I was not quoted 648 00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:32.000 in it, which is fine with me. I'm never unhappy if I'm not 649 00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:36.920 quoted in a New York Times story. Uh. And uh, anyway he 650 00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:39.679 was talking about active was a great story. He was talking about how liberals 651 00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:44.519 were shocked when the attempt to restore affirmative action of the ballot box two years 652 00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:47.880 ago failed and failed big and failed big among minorities. I mean, that's 653 00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:52.199 totally smashed their whole worldview, right. Uh. And now we're waiting for 654 00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:54.199 this decision. And I think he's gonna be more stories on this. I 655 00:47:54.199 --> 00:48:00.679 think Pale's actually pretty good on the on these issues. Anyway, He's a 656 00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:04.480 reporter of the New York Times who writes about cares well. He actually is 657 00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.159 a dissident at the New York Times. You should actually read his work with 658 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.880 care of well, you should worth my time. Well, that may be 659 00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:15.280 true, but it usually he's actually one of the renegades at the at the 660 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:24.559 Times and in the mainstream media, he's probably a moderate. Well about Smith 661 00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:29.360 College, and I forget what the story was, but it was. The 662 00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:31.440 story came out very harsh on Smith College is a year and a half ago. 663 00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:36.599 Now, I agree with Luke. I agree with lucretious point though, 664 00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:40.039 that the Supreme Court decision of the Harvard case standing alone isn't going to change 665 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:43.800 a lot. Yeah, it's gonna need a lot of follow up. There's 666 00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.679 gonna just be like Brown. You know, people say there was not serious 667 00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:52.039 desegregation in the South until nineteen sixty four, that it had to take dozens 668 00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:55.639 of cases. You have to keep suing because all the schools are gonna do 669 00:48:55.840 --> 00:49:00.320 what some are already trying in this k through twelve s them is just get 670 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:05.079 rid of all objective measures. Yeah, well, you know, get rid 671 00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:08.039 of the SAT a lot of them. Mark Well, actually John and GPAs 672 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:15.079 have you know, like like what's a geographic geographic diversity EQUI and so you're 673 00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:20.039 gonna have to you know, it's not it's not the end of the beginning. 674 00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:21.960 It's not the beginning of the end. It's the end of the beginning. 675 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:25.119 So there's going to take a lot more effort decade, maybe try to 676 00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:30.599 route this all out, actually go. I think I think that I challenged 677 00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.199 a little bit. I don't think it was really sixty four. I mean 678 00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:37.639 the Johnson illustration a little bit. But you know when school the segregation really 679 00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:42.920 took off was under Nixon, and Nixon's Justice Department really said to time's up, 680 00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:44.760 South, You're gonna have to do this now, and we're gonna be 681 00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:47.599 after you. And I think you're gonna need something like the Trump Justice Department. 682 00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:52.199 Remember they opened a case against Yale, which the Biden Justice Department dropped 683 00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.440 immediately on taking office. And I think you're going to need the the a 684 00:49:55.599 --> 00:50:01.239 next Republican administration if it's a strong decision to be all over all the colleges 685 00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:07.119 and universities and just making so yeah, I know, the good the good 686 00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:08.840 thing about it, tell me if you guys think I'm wrong about this. 687 00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:15.400 The good thing about and why I'm ultimately optimistic that this campaign will succeed is 688 00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:19.960 it has the support of a supermajority of Americans, right, Like most Americans 689 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:24.400 don't want race use. It's this small managerial elite and our colleges and universities 690 00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:28.719 and schools, you know, K through twelve and all those people, all 691 00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.559 Lucretia was saying, are in favor of LGBT. Whatever. Corporate executives, 692 00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:37.400 the media, they're the ones who want to force it down Americans throats. 693 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:40.039 But if the American people and the courts want to do it, I think 694 00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:45.599 the courts give cover, you know, to what the American people already want 695 00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:50.440 to do because they have their right instincts. I agree that the American people 696 00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:52.559 have the right instacts. I'm gonna bring up the one that's going to make 697 00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.960 you think I'm crazy. But another Supreme Court case, which I think is 698 00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:00.760 a great Supreme Court case. I think it was Justice Elito. Do you 699 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:06.559 know the case I think you say, Mattel versus Metal versus tam about the 700 00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:13.239 slants. Do you remember the case about and remember the Patent Office said you 701 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:19.559 can't register that name because it's I don't know, disparages or brings into contempt 702 00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:24.199 or disrepute persons living or dead, something like that, and the Supreme Court 703 00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:36.599 Justice Alito said, there's no there's no constitutional restriction allowed on hate speech. 704 00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:40.760 Hate speech is probably one of the more protected kinds of speech. We like 705 00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:47.679 hate speech because you need to say that. But but my point is so, 706 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:53.719 I actually, when when I teach a couple of couple of lower division 707 00:51:53.800 --> 00:52:01.079 classes, I sometimes do multiple choice tests to keep students doing the reading so 708 00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:05.199 they actually do better a better job on their essays. I don't believe in 709 00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.880 multiple choice tests, but that's the reason for it. And I inevitably in 710 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:14.519 my comm law classes put a question on there which of the following can be 711 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:20.440 under Supreme Court opinions, Which of the following can be restricted by the government, 712 00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:29.199 And inevitably they will pick hate speech that it can be restricted. And 713 00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:36.960 nobody believes that we actually can engage in hate speech, and certainly our social 714 00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:42.159 media and all those other people like to say hate speeches and protected under the 715 00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:46.800 constitution. You know. So it's just another example of it's a little harder. 716 00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:52.639 You know, Hamilton was right. The weakest branch of government, the 717 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:57.159 least dangerous branch of government, and it needs the executive even to enforce its 718 00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.760 decisions. Right, That's where I guess where we are, and I'm anticipating 719 00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:01.960 that John and I are going to be right about this one, Steve, 720 00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:08.239 even though they'll be massive because I think the elites have more power than they 721 00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:12.280 should. Maybe that's the best way to put it. Yeah, well, 722 00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:15.960 I mean the college administrations are rotten. My post about this this week was 723 00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:20.760 a couple of college presidents who were already saying, you know, we anticipate 724 00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:22.920 the court's going to hand down an adverse ruling, but we're committed to diversity, 725 00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:25.760 which translates to we're going to figure out every way to cheat we possibly 726 00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:30.719 can. And all these statements are written sort of the same, changed the 727 00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:37.679 yeah no exactly, which is out of time of this di statement, which 728 00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:42.079 explains to me too just briefly mentioned. It's not directly related, but close 729 00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:46.039 enough. We had another episode this week of a university getting caught being completely 730 00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:51.159 idiotic. So we remember back at Christmas, we were joking about Stanford's list 731 00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:54.159 of troublesome words that you couldn't use, like America, right, oh, 732 00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:58.280 don't don't forget. We had a contest to see who could use the most 733 00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:04.280 words. Of course, Creasia Cresia one going away. She even won before 734 00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.039 he even started the contest. I know, the first five minutes. It 735 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:13.400 was the week before. I wasn't even trying well. Johns Hopkins University had 736 00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:19.480 a glossary of terms for Pride Month Bright LGBTQ plus and they defined lesbian as 737 00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.480 a non man who likes other non men, and then it went on to 738 00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:27.599 say gay as a man who was attracted to other men. So women were 739 00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:30.400 raised completely. Well, they got caught, and they took the whole thing 740 00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:35.559 down, just as Stanford did. Uh. And they have this thing posted 741 00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:38.840 saying, well, that language was not reviewed and the whole process is under 742 00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:42.760 review right now and realized this language is. So the point is they got 743 00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:47.000 caught the way Stanford got caught. Oh that. My third example was the 744 00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:52.760 the woman who gave the the viciously anti Semitic commencement address at City University of 745 00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.679 New York Law School. Yeah, and the and the and then it got 746 00:54:55.679 --> 00:55:00.400 a lot of press, whereupon the administration said, oh, we totally the 747 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:05.039 ploor the hate speech of that graduate. That's totally inappropriate. Well, you 748 00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:07.880 can see on the video the dean of the law school applauding the woman after 749 00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:12.960 she finished the talk, and I've seen reports again you don't know if they're 750 00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.599 true, but that she had shared her speech ahead of time with the administration, 751 00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:17.760 which seems odd to me. I don't know why you would do that. 752 00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:22.159 But the broader point is they shouldn't be surprised at this language. They 753 00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:28.800 know that there's a huge outside lobbying force and inside in the faculty promoting you 754 00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:31.719 know, anti violently anti Israel sentiments, So why should they be surprised if 755 00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:36.719 this happens. But they got caught. So the point is that I think 756 00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:40.000 they like the self flagellation Steve, because if you'll recall, her speech also 757 00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:47.480 included how oppressive the college administration had been and how amazing it was, but 758 00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:53.079 they made it through considering how you know, those they were worse than the 759 00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:58.159 worst of slave owners, because you know, they were so oppressive and they 760 00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:05.199 had these these these amazing graduates practically had to clawl through broken glass their entire 761 00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.480 time. You know, it's just and so I'm sure that when the College 762 00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:15.440 administration, the Cooney administrations, so the Sunny administration, you get them confused, 763 00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:16.519 saw it, they said, oh, yeah, that's us, we 764 00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:22.239 made it so miserable for those those poor girls standard refuge Jesus. And you 765 00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:25.679 know that's why they couldn't tell her she couldn't give her speech. So yeah, 766 00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:30.280 that's my thought on the matter. Sorry. And then then then somebody 767 00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:39.079 from some some tiny some community college in California decided to speech. Right, 768 00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:44.480 yeah, yeah, good times, good times. It is good times. 769 00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:52.800 It is good times. John, I have to ask you, do you 770 00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:58.960 have a favorite satirical novel? So my we were doing satirical books, so 771 00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:02.360 Mike, there's so my first nominees, why not sure if they're satirical, 772 00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:08.800 would have been um, Animal Farm by George orwell maybe I'm not sure if 773 00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:13.559 nineteen eighty four a satirical But then I you know, just for fun, 774 00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:17.119 I mean there's satirical society. I don't think they really have any deep political 775 00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:22.639 message that they're not as interesting as Animal Farm would be. The Jeeves and 776 00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:27.280 Wooster books. Wood House, Yeah, yeah, PG Woodhouse. Those are 777 00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:32.480 really funny and they are a satire of the English class system, you know 778 00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:37.880 because the lord you know, uh Worcester, I mean obvious. You know 779 00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:40.239 you're just looking at the names. You don't need to know you can tell 780 00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:45.039 like like Seinfeld goes, who is naming their kids Jeeves? Would you ever 781 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:49.159 name your kids Jeeves? Like you guys making sure that the guy's going to 782 00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:52.320 grow up to be a butler. So Wooster um right, it's just like 783 00:57:52.360 --> 00:58:00.760 a foppish, shallow English lord of some kind who just goes about from day 784 00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:04.679 to day trying to figure out how to borrow money from friends or as relatives, 785 00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:08.920 and wasted on drinking and buying clothes and driving around a nice car. 786 00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:14.719 And Jeeves the butler is, you know, the soul of the working class, 787 00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:19.519 sensible, reliable, always thinking of the right thing to do, even 788 00:58:19.559 --> 00:58:22.400 before Wooster gets in trouble, always finding that, you know, the clever 789 00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:27.599 solution at the end of book that resolves all the you know, the many 790 00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:31.800 scandals that could befall Wooster. And so they're really funny, but you know 791 00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:35.880 they're kind of shallow too, and that they don't have any really I don't 792 00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:39.079 think I don't find maybe I'm missing any sort of deeper meaning than just making 793 00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:44.360 fun of the British class system. Now, they sure are funny. Well, 794 00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:45.760 So, first of all, John, you may have seen this new 795 00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:50.760 story a month or so ago. There's a big push to bold the Rise 796 00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:55.000 the Wooster or the Woodhouse novels in print because they're politically incorrect. And that's 797 00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:59.880 really they are more political than you think. They're not like the troll up 798 00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:01.800 novels about you know, Parliament and all the rest of that. But I 799 00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:06.639 do think, especially on nowadays called gender questions, there's a lot of political 800 00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:09.519 content to it. And by the way, like what you know, like 801 00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:14.239 what like what I because I this was, I this all over my head? 802 00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:16.880 Well, I mean I don't know. I mean, you know how 803 00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:22.199 Lucretia likes to say women shouldn't vote in any woman who can't get her husband 804 00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:23.679 vote the way she wants is not worth womanhood. How do you put that, 805 00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:28.599 Lucretia something like that? Right? Are you still there? I'm still 806 00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:31.360 here that I say that. Why don't you see her mocking suspicious face, 807 00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:37.000 Well, looking at you, funny, she's looking at this is what I 808 00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:39.400 think the youngsters called. She's giving you the side eye. Well, you 809 00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:45.920 see, when I when I read through Woodhouse, I stumbled across lots and 810 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:52.480 lots of passages of Bertie Wooster's descriptions of Woodhouse, deceptions of of well, 811 00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:59.000 I'm not soufragists, but of women who remind me of Lucretia. Ohoh oh, 812 00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:02.880 let me that is low, not as low? What's here? How 813 01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:08.320 about let's see ye here, I'm gonna give you a couple. It's been 814 01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:10.519 I had to dust off of you of these and I couldn't find the one 815 01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:15.960 particularly thinking of. But here too that see. If this doesn't listeners remind 816 01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:22.159 you of a certain co host here. Uh wait a minute, where is 817 01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:24.800 it? Uh? Shoot, here it is? You know how it is 818 01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:28.760 with some girls. They seem to take the stuffing right out of you. 819 01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:31.920 I mean to say, there is something about their personality that paralyzes the vocal 820 01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:38.519 cords and reduces the contents of the brain to cauliflower. Well, Steve, 821 01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:42.920 I think just saying a lot more about you than Lucretia. Well, let 822 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.800 me give you one more here. This one's kind of fine, except for 823 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:49.400 the last person the last day. It's about Anria Glossop, who shows up 824 01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:52.960 as one of the Boh yeah, you know, I love interest that the 825 01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.480 ants always want to fix up Birdie with. Honoria, you see, is 826 01:00:55.519 --> 01:01:00.360 one of those robust, dynamic girls with the muscles of a Welterway and a 827 01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:05.239 laugh like a squadron of cavalry charging over a tin bridge. A beastly thing 828 01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:08.280 to have to face over the breakfast table. Brainy. Moreover, the sort 829 01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:13.639 of girl who reduces you to a pulpe with sixteen sets of tennis and a 830 01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:16.079 few rounds of golf and then comes down to dinner as fresh as a daisy, 831 01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:23.800 expecting you to take an intelligent interest in freuds against Steve. Against Steve. 832 01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:30.159 This says a lot more about you than Lucretia. You fear, you 833 01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:36.840 fear, you fear, smart athletic women's Steve. You have a lot in 834 01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:39.840 common with Worcester. Well, I think, yes, that's probably true. 835 01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:45.039 Yeah, yeah, that's right. Okay, Actually, can I just make 836 01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:50.719 a comment about the What'ster's treatment of women in his books is so one class 837 01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:54.280 of women are his aunts, you know, these older women who control all 838 01:01:54.320 --> 01:02:00.400 the money in the family and strike fear into Worcester's heart because they're always scolding 839 01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:07.079 him. But actually I love to actually have a very clear eyed view of 840 01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:09.960 reality, and they're constantly telling him to get a job, stop you know, 841 01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:14.920 lazing about, you know, borrowing money, and at least you know, 842 01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:17.719 lead a responsible life, right, I actually think the answer the you 843 01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:21.840 know, sort of the voice of reasonable society. Yeah, and then you 844 01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:25.880 know, they're the Greek course of the books. And then they're various women 845 01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:30.119 who are who want to marry Worcester who does Most of the books are about 846 01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:36.119 Worster trying to avoid getting married, right and then um, and then they're 847 01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:40.559 the women who Worster really likes but he can never get together with because they 848 01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:45.400 have a better taste than men. Yeah. Yeah, so I actually think 849 01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:47.800 women has treated pretty well. And though I mean, like, you know, 850 01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:51.440 you don't want to be Worcester, right, you don't want to be 851 01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:53.519 Jeeves because he's the butler, even though he's the smartest guy in the books. 852 01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:57.800 Actually, women are the ones who are treated best in the books. 853 01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:00.239 That's why. That's how I read it, as if she yeah, what 854 01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:05.280 is it? What is it? Hoosti attributes geez brilliance to reading Spinoza in 855 01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:12.440 the morning and eating lots of fish. I think, great stuff. All 856 01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:22.039 right, do you have any others or you want to wrestles? Okay, 857 01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:27.320 well I have I have three nominees, um, two modern and one uh 858 01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:31.320 more back in the Woodhouse Sarah. So if you want a contemporary comic novel 859 01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:34.679 that I think it's very good. It's not deep, but it doesn't need 860 01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:38.719 to be. And it's Christopher Buckley's Thank You for Smoking, which is what's 861 01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:43.039 that. The movie's not bad, The book's better. The movie, of 862 01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:45.840 course has to shorten it down. The movie wasn't bad, but the book, 863 01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:47.280 I mean, I think what is good about it is it does really 864 01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:52.119 prick the pretentiousness and the soup of the superficiality of the political culture of Washington. 865 01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:55.960 Uh. And the movie gets a little of that, but it really 866 01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:00.000 is fun. In the book, him dealing with the Hollywood people about how 867 01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:06.880 to make the movie about killer of cigarettes, and then especially him discussing him 868 01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:12.039 standing up to the Senator Finnis Stare of Vermont, who was complaining about the 869 01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:15.920 health hazards of cigarettes, and he says, what about Vermont cheese? Think 870 01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:18.599 of the cholesterol? I think of all the heart attacks that you go. 871 01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:24.559 It's brilliantly done. Chris Buckle was really good at that genre. Some of 872 01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.000 his other books I think are pretty good too, but that's his best one. 873 01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:30.320 The other modern one that I think really deserves to be a serious classic 874 01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:34.880 is John Kennedy O'Toole's Confederacy of Dunce's from nineteen eighty one. I think it 875 01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:42.039 was that was the book about the character in New Orleans, this big fat 876 01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:45.400 guy named Ignatious Riley who was right out of the fourteenth century and thought Thomas 877 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:49.079 Aquinas and media Locatholicism was the best regime that we should bring back. And 878 01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:53.880 it's a very funny book, kind of a tragic book. He committed, 879 01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:56.920 the author committed suicide, but he couldn't get it published, and it wasn't 880 01:04:56.960 --> 01:05:00.239 until twenty years later that Walker Percy read the manuscript and said, this is 881 01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:02.119 genius and must be published. And you've never read it, You guys have 882 01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:05.559 never heard of it. Or it's a book you could not make a movie 883 01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:09.280 of. It would not unlike Thank You for Smoking, It would not succeed 884 01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:13.840 as a movie. But it's it's really funny. But I think the one 885 01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:17.440 I'll settle on finally is how many books are you going to get? I'm 886 01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:23.519 just three options. John gave two. My third one is kind of not 887 01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:26.760 quite Urweld Territory, but it's G. K. Chesterton's The Man Who Was 888 01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:30.880 Thursday, and his original title was The Man who Was Thursday, I'm a 889 01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:35.480 nightmare. And you know how we've talked a bit about the controlled opposition of 890 01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:40.880 modern times. The plot of The Man Who Was Thursday, which is now 891 01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:44.280 more than a hundred years old, was about an anarchist group but turned out 892 01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:46.519 to have been penetrated and run by the government. And boy, doesn't that 893 01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:50.320 start to sound familiar? Right? And Chesterton was, you know, one 894 01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:54.920 of my favorites, right fact, if we do theology books, I may 895 01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:58.000 name his little book Orthodoxy is the best one we should read. But I'll 896 01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:00.599 say that another time. Those are mine. Yeah, come on, no 897 01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:03.760 more pretentious intellectual stuff here tonight, Steve. This is you got your time 898 01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:08.119 last week. Next week you could know whatever, so mine. I'm only 899 01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:12.280 going to pick one because people are going to actually go out and read the 900 01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:15.239 one. Actually, they'll probably read a. P. G. Wood House 901 01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:21.039 too. But my favorite satirical novel in ever is Joseph Heller's Good as Gold, 902 01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:25.559 and most people don't know it. They know Catch twenty two. To 903 01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:34.679 give you some context, Good as Gold is the academia slash Washington DC equivalent 904 01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:41.599 of Catch twenty two. It's so so if imagine that your context in Catch 905 01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:47.320 twenty two is the Army. This is so Gold is a Bruce Gold is 906 01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:56.360 a professor, Jewish professor at Columbia, Okay, who is vying for a 907 01:06:56.599 --> 01:07:00.880 position in the White House. And an old friend of his that he helped 908 01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:08.039 write his papers back in undergraduate days. I think Columbia knows wherever they went 909 01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:10.960 to, Yeah, it was. Columbia is now a big deal at the 910 01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:13.800 White House. So he's going to get a job at the White House, 911 01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:18.079 and it is. He's also just a little bit from the back. He's 912 01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:23.840 a professor who hates teaching. His favorite students are the ones who dropped the 913 01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:30.440 class before the semester starts. That whole thing about his teaching is hilarious. 914 01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:34.480 He never shows up to any department meetings, he doesn't read any of his 915 01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:39.599 mail, he doesn't talk to any of his colleagues, and they all think 916 01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:44.360 he's incredibly important because of that. You know, it's just those kinds of 917 01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:48.679 catchtween two things. But this is so he's about to get his job, 918 01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:51.920 which he actually never gets, but he's always at the verge of it, 919 01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:56.920 and they're making announcements about it all the time. So he shows up for 920 01:07:56.960 --> 01:08:00.480 a press briefing. I have an announcement to make. As you know, 921 01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:03.199 the president conducts and this is the press secretary, this is the moob head 922 01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:06.760 equivalent. I have an announcement to make. As you know, this president 923 01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:12.199 conducts an open administration and is committed to total truth. In keeping with that 924 01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:16.000 policy, I have to announce that I have no announcement to make. Nothing 925 01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:21.159 happened since yesterday. There was a dumbfounded pause in the room before a veteran 926 01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:26.479 newsman up for a nast nothing that is correct. There is no news today, 927 01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:31.079 no news, no news, not a thing, not a thing worth 928 01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:35.560 talking about. Is that just for Washington or is that for the rest of 929 01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:40.000 the country as well? Just for Washington, we don't care about the rest 930 01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:43.600 of the country. You don't care about the rest of the country, that 931 01:08:43.720 --> 01:08:46.159 is correct? Does that mean there'll be nothing in the newspapers about the president? 932 01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:48.359 That's right, unless you want to make a story out of that. 933 01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:53.800 Can we move along? And it goes along those those very same lines for 934 01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:58.800 forever And then finally he says, is there anyone in the administration who does 935 01:08:58.920 --> 01:09:03.079 know what? Anything? Would you repeat the question anything? Is that a 936 01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:08.560 question? Is that an answer? I don't know. I forgot my question. 937 01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:12.840 I'll will throw my answer, and then somebody at the ends jumping ahead. 938 01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:15.159 Thank you. You're to be congratulated. This has been the frankest and 939 01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:20.960 most informous informative press briefing I've ever attended. Oh I don't know. It's 940 01:09:21.039 --> 01:09:26.239 hilarious. You have to go buy it and read it tonight, and you 941 01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:29.600 will never go to bed. You will spend the night up laughing. See. 942 01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:30.840 No, this is a surprise, because I never think of you a 943 01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:35.439 similar reads contemporary novels, because usually I've read that probably forty years ago. 944 01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:41.359 Oh but but you'll see what you guys. The listeners can't see. But 945 01:09:41.399 --> 01:09:45.000 you guys can see how how awful this poor little paperback looks now, because 946 01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:49.319 there have been more more than one time, especially when things are just haredness 947 01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:53.439 at the University, that I pick it up and read it just to make 948 01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:56.560 myself happy. Yeah, so I can see that. Yeah. Well, 949 01:09:56.600 --> 01:10:00.159 a couple of loose ends before we close. One is John Philadelphias. Can 950 01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:04.520 I just say I usually do that with we usually do that? What's that? 951 01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:12.000 I'm sorry? I think I was mute about Youphiladelphia. Oh oh yeah, 952 01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:15.319 when I ninety five blew up. Ye right, oh yeah. So 953 01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:17.920 I was there and I was heading back to Washington. So I woke up 954 01:10:17.960 --> 01:10:21.520 early in the morning, turned on the TV, saw that I ninety five 955 01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:25.239 blew up. So I was like, Mom, get me to the train 956 01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:30.159 station. I'm out of here. I left immediately because I knew it would 957 01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:35.319 be traffic armageddon. So I have two Philly jokes here, because so one 958 01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:40.760 is I didn't know Wilson Good was living under the I ninety five overpass. 959 01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:45.199 So the reason that's funny for people might remember is that Wilson Good was the 960 01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:54.600 mayor who in the nineteen eighties decided to try to arrest this black nationalist group 961 01:10:55.560 --> 01:11:00.119 called move that had barricaded itself in a townhouse. Was heavily armed. It's 962 01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:03.000 a strange little cult, like they changed everyone and it changed our last names 963 01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:09.640 to Africa, so like John Africa, Jeff Africa, Baby Africa. Anyway, 964 01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:12.880 so they had kids in there, and they were armed. They they 965 01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:16.039 barracue themselves. So Mayor Wilson Good, the city's first black mayor by the 966 01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:20.840 way, authorized a dropping up a bomb on their house, which burned down 967 01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:26.960 about eight or nine city blocks. And so that's why I say, whatever 968 01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:32.640 happened to Wilson Good? Oh he was living there under the then. And 969 01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:38.399 then my other slightly serious joke is because apparently what happened is a you know, 970 01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:43.640 some Philly truck driver with fuel oil fuel oil, like just blew the 971 01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:47.520 truck up but smashed into that you know, crashed into that underpass and exploded. 972 01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:54.199 So it's like only the Philadelphia classic Philadelphia truck driver could do what the 973 01:11:54.279 --> 01:12:00.399 Confederacy could not, which is to cut DC off from the north. Oh 974 01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:05.279 those are my two Philly jokes. When that happened, Yeah, so nobody 975 01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:15.199 third no, no, but I think maybe one person died maybe actually anyway, 976 01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:18.319 so my third Philly joke of the week was, um, why Donald 977 01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:23.880 Trump is a Philly guy? So after he goes to Miami Federal Courthouse, 978 01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:28.960 leads not guilty, and then leaves heads to the airport, but he makes 979 01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:33.920 a pit stop at Versailles, the famous Verse side cafe in downtown Miami, 980 01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:39.520 to pick up some Cuban sandwiches. So I think he's a Philly guy because 981 01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:45.199 only Philly guy would be on the way after getting arraigned in criminal court on 982 01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:49.760 his way and then stops to get a Hogie. That's a Philly guy on 983 01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:55.279 his way to the airport. That's why I did so well Pennsylvania in twenty 984 01:12:55.319 --> 01:13:00.319 sixteen. Yeah, okay, well that note, I don't think we need 985 01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:02.960 a camel Is m tonight, Steve doing. She still on her a witness 986 01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:06.399 protection program. I'll just mention that there was a new story the other day 987 01:13:06.520 --> 01:13:10.920 Nashville with a nice writeup of it of leftist groups who are upset with the 988 01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:15.399 White House for not showcasing or more and they're demanding They've sent they've sent demands 989 01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:18.640 to the White House that they showcase Camela Moore. And I'm thinking, showcase 990 01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:21.960 Camela or what what are they going to do? Vote for RFK JR. 991 01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:25.640 I mean, it's ludicrous, But she does seem to be in the witness 992 01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:30.359 protection program. So there's that. Are you sure that wasn't the Republican National 993 01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:34.840 Committee was complaining that they weren't showcasing Kamela More because I think that's one where 994 01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:40.000 the Republican Party is in full agreement with the Democratic leadership. Well, and 995 01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:43.880 I was going to make a really off colored joke about the fact that Planned 996 01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:48.880 Parenthood is plant is planning to spend ten million dollars to try to improve her 997 01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:55.319 image and make her appear more electable. And I told Steve that I thought 998 01:13:55.359 --> 01:14:00.039 that the all one would really draw from that whole thing is that she's like 999 01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:11.800 the best argument there is for their number one service. They provide the mood 1000 01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:15.079 a little. You heard that there was a major cyber attack today right on 1001 01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:19.359 the Yeah, some major cyber you didn't hear about. That's interesting where it's 1002 01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:24.359 shut me up? No, no, no, it's it's because several people 1003 01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:28.720 I know who are cyber experts didn't hear about it either. So quickly it 1004 01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:32.479 was a across many federal agencies. They're blaming it on the Chinese, but 1005 01:14:32.479 --> 01:14:35.000 that's ridiculous. I have no way of knowing yet who did it. But 1006 01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:42.479 as Move it is a secure collaboration app that moves sensitive data that a bunch 1007 01:14:42.479 --> 01:14:45.920 of the federal agencies were using. There was a huge vulnerability. Hackers got 1008 01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:48.159 into it and that was that. But anyway, so that leads me to 1009 01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:55.920 my Babylon be for the day. Just it's lighthearted. Hero Trumps saves government 1010 01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:02.560 secrets from cyber attack by hiding them at Maralago. On that happy note, 1011 01:15:02.680 --> 01:15:11.840 always DRD your whiskey neat John Uh, let's go, Brandon Steve, I'm 1012 01:15:11.840 --> 01:15:15.239 gonna pick on you guys. Don't forget to milk the soft Power dividend, 1013 01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:23.399 and don't forget to milk the soft Power dive. And Linda Lucretia. Okay, 1014 01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:47.199 it's been a long night, everybody, by everybody. Bye. Well 1015 01:15:47.239 --> 01:15:51.399 that was all very enjoyable. Geez, most philosophic I say, like that 1016 01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:56.520 whole thing wasn't switched all day. Very fortunate to say. Now, all 1017 01:15:56.560 --> 01:15:59.880 those chaps with violin students, you know, I really couldn't see you. 1018 01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:02.279 I'm looking lot still. I think I'd better go and have a bit of 1019 01:16:02.279 --> 01:16:04.399 a lie down. Now, do you use before I slog over to the 1020 01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:09.039 groves for gussiping Mottles burst it out? You may have been over doing it. 1021 01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:12.520 Well, Christ use the daily grind, you know, and good work 1022 01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:33.960 tomorrow. Ricochet join the conversation.