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Welcome to another episode of the Hardwood
Ox Podcasts. Everyone, I am Dana

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Valley, coming at you solo because
my co host Adam Bromwell is super selfish

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and decided to take a vacation that
infringed upon our schedule. He was supposed

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to be back, but he's running
into some transportation issues, so it's just

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me. Luckily we do these mail
bags have a ton of questions in store,

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so we're not going to want for
content. I will get right into

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this. As a note for anyone
listening to the podcast version of this,

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this was recorded before Game three of
Buck Suns. I'm not answering any specific

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game questions with that. However,
I'm going to begin with a question about

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Drew Holiday from Kim, who asked
what is wrong with Drew Holiday and also

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asked why the Bucks are playing so
poorly against Phoenix. Actually don't think they've

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been playing poorly at my age after
game three, so I'm not going to

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go deep into that. They probably
they need to figure out how to score

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more points. I'm generating more fish
an offense, I should say. And

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game two, you look at their
offensive rating, it was like a little

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bit better than the average that should
be fine, but this comes back to

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due holiday overall, and in the
playoffs they need more from him. He's

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clearly an upgrade over Eric bletso he
has been fantastic for them on defense during

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the playoffs, including I think for
the most part during this Phoenix series as

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well. But you got him because
he's supposed to be. And he is

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a better shot creator, better shot
maker, just more of a threat in

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the half court than Eric Bletso someone
who defenses need to respect, need to

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cover, and defense is aren't necessarily
abandoning him. But he's shooting for the

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playoffs, and this isn't you know, this isn't a final specific thing.

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I know he's had two rough games
in the finals. He's been up and

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down a lot these playoffs. He's
shooting fifty of ninety at the rim,

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which is fifty five point six percent. That's against the league average in the

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playoffs of sixty four point seven percent. And that's where you know, a

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pretty good amount of his shots are
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these aren't easy layups that he's taking, but when nearly thirty percent of your

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shots are coming at the rim,
when these are shots that you've made in

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the playoffs. That is absolutely an
issue. And it's not like he's hitting

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his outside looks either. He is
shooting under thirty two percent from three for

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the playoffs, and he is you
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he is only thirty of ninety four
and above the break threes during the postseason,

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which is thirty one point nine percent, and that's where another thirty percent

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of shots are coming from. He's
actually done kind of sort of okay in

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those in between spots. So he's
shooting thirty of sixty eight on twos outside

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the restricted area, but inside the
paint forty four point one percent, again

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not spectacular, but not terrible.
And then he's at thirty eight point six

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percent on long twos, which is
just fourteen percent of his shots coming from

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that area. Is a little weird. I think that's really a factor of

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him having the ball in his hands. When you do generate your own shots,

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you are going to get more of
those looks. You would like that

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number, I guess to be a
little bit higher, but it's, you

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know, thirty eight point six percent
on twos outside the paint. Not great.

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We've seen worse runs. I really
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to normalize, and he's never been
the most knockdown shooter, so I think

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he more looked at it as they
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the rim, and his attack mode
is super valuable in that regard. I

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would expect him to bounce back at
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I do think it's discouraging, to
say the least, that this has been

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a postseason long thing with him on
offense, where yes, he's had his

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moments, He's hit some big shots, and I can't do anything to take

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away from his defense. He is
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as a team defender, but really
as someone who's who's on the ball can

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handle all these different types of assignments. You just look at the breath of

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guys that he has covered before this
series. You need him to be better

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than he is on offense, and
I'd probably argue that just by virtue of

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the respect he commands on offense with
the ball in his hands, He's still

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an upgrade there over Eric Bletsoe.
But to come out of this final series,

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specifically, if you're listening to this
on Monday or Tuesday, just after

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Game three, at any point if
the Bucks won, I'm just going to

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assume that because Drew Holiday had a
good offensive game, and the final thing,

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I'll stay here. I don't think
it's been talked about enough is the

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Bucks feel like they haven't had any
of their three stars cooking at once in

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the playoffs. They've had games,
of course, where it's one of them,

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like Game two of the Finals where
Giannis goes off and no one else

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really you know, Middleton struggles and
Holiday struggles. They've been games where two

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guys go off. They've had games
where Chris Midleton is good for a half

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or good for a quarter and then
sort of fades. Never all three of

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them. It feels like have just
been going off at once. And that's

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clearly when the Bucks are at their
most dangerous, and so you need all

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three of your stars to be on
point. The biggest roadblock to that happening,

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aside from if you want to talk
about Chris Middleton, it's waxing and

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waning act. And you won't find
a bigger Chris Middleton propagandist than me in

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the NBA media. I don't think
bit up and down at points, and

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that might be what separates him from
the truly elite players. So the bigger

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roadblock is just Drew Holiday has not
been Drew Holiday on offense for most of

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the playoffs. We have two notes
in the chat Noah shout out to Noah

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for coming back is always. The
Bucks also have no depth, like it's

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surprising they're in the finals while only
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I'm pleasantly they have no depth.
I one hundred percent agree right there.

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Missing Dante deven Tenzo sucks. The
fact you have to rely on Jeff

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t get All in the NBA Finals, It is definitely problematic. Pat making

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Pat Conatton happen. It's a tricky
proposition. I think it's paid off more

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often than not in the postseason,
so that's good. I would argue that

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Bud shortening his rotation during the postseason
was actually impressive. But they do feel

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like if you want to ideally shorten
your postseason rotation, they still feel like

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one every day matchup proof player short
of being super elite or you know,

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the surprise could lie in. And
I don't disagree with Noah here is there

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have been nights where I don't know
that Pja Tucker has provided enough defense to

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justify how much offense he's not giving
you hasn't shot the corner three well for

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most of the playoffs, and if
he's just not a high volume got to

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begin with, so he's not making
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He has to be defending incredibly well
to value just and have alternatives. Brent

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Forbes such a defensive liability for them, And if he's not hitting shots,

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it's tough to play him. And
then, as I mentioned, Jeff t

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just shouldn't be in this this rotation
for them, but he kind of you

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know, now it's the jeff Te
dependence is a necessity, Brandon said,

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simply inconsistency. I'm assuming he's talking
about the Bucks at large or drew In

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Chris Middleton. I would I totally
agree with Chris Middleton. He I just

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feel like he would be among one
of the consistently, you know, the

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top fifteen to twenty five guys in
the league for season long spans if he

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was more aggressive. And then I
do think there's an element of a shot

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making where it bails out before the
rim, and I think that lends itself

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to hire variants. And if you're
not a Devin Booker. If you're not

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a Chris Paul, that's just not
going to fly. Steve says it seems

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tough to counter campaign Cam Johnson and
Tory Craig with Jeff T. Kim Brin

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Forbes. Yeah, I this is
Look, if the Bucks lose, the

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story is going to be that this
is because of the Suns. The lad

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be at least they are so deep, and the fact that you have campaign

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in game two, I think he
logged under ten minutes. I'm doing this

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stuff off the top of my head. Didn't really score. I think it

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was one of three or something.
Just stupid from the field. And he's

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still getting doubled coming around picking rolls
because he's been such a jitterbug for them

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on offense, hit off the dribble, three's scooted to the rim. He's

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really improved as a passer. To
me, Cam Johnson is an all around

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player, by the way, I
think we need to talk about that more.

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Just someone who's a good cutter will
be opportunistic on the offensive glass We

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know about his shooting, and he's
held up more than I think anyone would

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have predicted defensively over the course of
his career, but especially this season.

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Tory Craig, who, by the
way, as we're recording this found out

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is indeed planning to play Game three, so hopefully there was no structural damage

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that knee injury he suffered, which
was good news but still sort of ambiguous.

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The fact that he's trying to play
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for them, the Bucks getting rid
of I know he wasn't playing there,

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but like they really could have used
him in this series. Then giving him

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away from three is a yeah,
not so great now, but he is

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Tory Craig one of the better rebounding
especially in the offense and class wings in

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the league. Also someone who with
Phoenix has been hitting his threes and gives

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you a lot defensively, and now
because of as Steve mentioned, the Dario

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Sharks injury, you need him more
to kind of unlock your smaller lineups where

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Jay Crowder is going to be your
five, where it's committee with Jay Crowder

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and Tory Craig. But I say
you have to go to those lineups.

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But when it's Frank Kimitzky that's gonna
be getting reps, there's you know,

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I don't know how long that really
flies for so he's important. Hopefully he's

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help you play, Hopefully they get
good minutes. If he's too injured to

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go or if he's just not great. I'm wondering if we see more of

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abdel Nader, because I do think
that you have to lean on those smaller

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combinations after the DeAndre Ayton minutes.
Just looking at your alternatives now, which

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is Frank Kimitzky, and just the
fact that Steve mentions this the Yannest the

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five lineups at the Bucks are surely
gonna counter with just given how much less

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they've gone with Bobby Porters throughout this
series. And I don't you know,

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Johannest at the five lineups, what's
interesting is I still will just a Game

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two. Yes, I think everyone
was in agreement that the Bucks defended well,

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even think at Game one they figured
stuff out without adjusting as much as

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they should have. They did adjust
a ton in Game two, so I

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think Budd deserves credit for that as
well. That might just be the bare

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minimum credit, but he has done
some tinkering with the way that they're defending,

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how aggressive they've been with their picking
row coverages, how high broke Lopez

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is is coming up, and so
changes like that matter. Jannis at the

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five is not about the defense.
The Suns haven't been scoring Milwaukee off the

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floor, and if they are,
it's because they're shot making absurd. It's

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about the offense and can you unlock
something there with you know, especially with

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Janni's doing so much of his damage
in a half court during Game two,

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because I do think that knee is
still an issue when it comes to him

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getting out in transition. Can you
do more for you as a screener or

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it's just you know, by virtue
of having Jannis at the five, you

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are more versatile because you're probably gonna
have you'll have Drew and Chris Middleton that

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lineup. I think the problem with
those combinations are they're a lot less attractive

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when Dante DiVincenzo doesn't exist, Pat
Connaughton and Brent Forbes. Is that due

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it for you? I guess it
should on offense, but there could be

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really issues on defense. So a
couple more No, it's from the chat

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Noah says, but but also doesn't
adjust, So there's that, but it's

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still stubborn. But as I mentioned, I do think he's at least done

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better job adjusting pretty much this year. That criticism is of course fair,

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though. Steve says, I actually
think they did adjust several different times with

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CP three, and Book just had
an answer for every adjustment. Also,

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but is really living advice personnel.
I agree with that too. And you

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know CP three and Devin Book are
you know, cooking like their shot making,

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and look, he's not even them
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You could very clearly see that the
game plan was like, Hey,

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we're gonna make some of the Sun's
others beat us. Michael Bridges is gonna

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beat you. This isn't just someone
who shoots threes. And it's the same

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story with Jake Crowder. They'll put
the ball on the floor. When it

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comes to Michael Bridges, he gets
like a little mid range game. Now,

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Noah says, I'm telling you Holiday
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I haven't looked to see how much
time this line up has gotten in

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this series. I'm probably not a
lot, just based off how much Portis

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and Forbes have played in general.
I would just be I'd be already defensively

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with Forbes and Portis in the floor. At the same time. I know

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portis played well on defense in the
Hawks series in the Eastern Conference Finals.

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Phoenix is just it's different. They're
different. They're built to really just fuck

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up everything, and that I think
at this point it's not even yet Phoenix

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is Steve notes they're built to hunt, but Phoenix is built to beat you

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in all sorts of different ways.
I feel like I'm painting this as the

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Bucks have no hope, and I
think they've shown that in Game two and

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even in Game one, like that
was a single digit game or fourth quarter.

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Their offense it needs to get going
and they will have a chance.

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Like that's been the bigger struggle is
even the guys who've been targeted on defense

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have not been compromising the game for
them. It's that you've either had one

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of your only one of your three
best players playing well on offense, where

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there's the Drew Holiday struggle Chris Middleton
playing well for like I feel like a

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half of this series so far,
So that's going to be the difference and

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if you're going to avoid a three
to zero hole. And again I'm dating

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this incredibly, but this was a
great conversation with you guys. It's because

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too at least two of your stars
had to go off if you're in Milwaukee,

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and I'm assuming one of them is
your honest because like he is,

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he's a Bellweather in his own way. If he's going to shoot eleven of

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eighteen from fallon, you probably feel
decently about your chances of winning. But

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he's also the guy Middleton is show
and he's capable of this. Drew holiday

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Lesto. He's the guy that will
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that absolute dominant game. Steve has
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question. Has Drew always been the
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wasn't on a big stage or see
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out of the playoffs so much with
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he was a contributing factor, but
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because the offense had to run through
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it did show his limitations. That
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we're not working with a huge sample
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more playoff games with the Sixers eighteen
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But during the nine game playoff run
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he really was a boss. He's
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campaign. Then get to the foul
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his game. But you have that
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provide with his defense, it becomes, you know, absolutely huge. So

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I would say, I don't even
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to what we've seen. There was
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Holiday. I would say he's underperforming
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where you have two other guys next
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generate offense. Where Anthony gave us
spectacular player. He grew as time went

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on, but he's more of a
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playmaker. Noah asked if the Bucks
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I'm going to say yes, because
you made the finals and you kept you

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honest on that five year contract and
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of your roster is intact. There
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better off at Kevin Durant split been
behind the line, they lose that series,

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Boonholzer gets fired, you change up
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I'll listen to that argument, But
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that this could technically be their best
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by virtue of them being in the
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look at the landscape of the league, is Brooklyn always going to be that

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unhealthy when it matters most Maybe,
but you can't guarantee that. I mean,

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they definitely have the personnel where it's
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because he's been an iron man for
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hamstring type issues. Kevin Durant has
the achilles issue. They were definitely cautious

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in the regular season when he was
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just always has stuff. It never
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Necessarily, it's just stuff. Is
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team where yeah, you could probably
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the course of the year, but
he still magnificently during the playoffs. What's

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the Ben Simmons situation. He can't
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offensively in the playoffs. There are
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Hawks. They're a team that I
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do you read too much into this
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At the same time, they're flexible
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They didn't really have Cam Reddish for
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flashes something in that Game six loss
with his shot making. DeAndre Hunter was

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really good this year when he actually
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And they do. They have the
means to make trades just because of

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their picks their prospects. But if
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on the rise. I think you
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not both of Boston and Miami are
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hopefully especially for Boston, though they
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injury. The East is going to
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They are a better team than their
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whether or not they bring back Kyle
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you could throw them into the phone. Do the Knicks get better or

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there's they just as good? They're
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look at the East right now between
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Brooklyn, and just knowing what happened
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this might be Milwaukee's best chance at
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it makes it a failure if they
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moving forward because they are so limited
in what they can do. I don't

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know what the move is for them, and I spend time trying to figure

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it out. Talked about it on
a previous podcast. Do you do you

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know the framework of a deal that
well, Steves? Is there any chance

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the Bucks could go after Kyle Lowry? It would have to be via sign

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and trade, and they don't really
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even if they do, then they're
hardcapped, which that would just be if

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you have Drew on a max deal, Middleton on a max deal, Yannis

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on a max deal, and Kyle
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really tough. I think a move
that's more doable for them is can they

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do something where you're exchanging brook Lopez
some salary filler is a number thirty one

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or thirty two in the draft,
whatever they are, Evencenzo's in an extension

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year, like that's your package with
money and assets. Harrison Barnes was like

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the best player I came up with. And if you believe that you can

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get a couple of centers on the
cheap who are really good, I think

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Harry Harrison Barnes help you a bunch
come playoff time. Another guy who can

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generate his own shot, helps you
unlock some of the smaller ball combinations,

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and then it's gonna give you a
solid positional defender. And if you wind

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up replacing PJ. Tucker's minutes with
Harrison barnes minutes, it's a huge upgrade.

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But then you're in a situation where
you've traded Brook Lopez, you are

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a lot smaller. Is it worth
giving up both Brooke and Dante Devincenzo to

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get Harrison Barnes. I think it
might be a more iffy on Brook than

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I am Donte Devincenzo, because one
of how well Brook Lopez is defended during

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a good portion of these playoffs and
two and also scored inside the arc,

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just positioning himself to get those passes
from ju Holiday and scoring really easily.

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But don't think Devencenzo the injury he's
in a contract or your next year,

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how much you're gonna pay him.
I do think he's good, probably not

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someone that everyone really knows of to
my but a chaser on defense, he

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can handle the ball a little bit
and run point guard on offense. Three

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point shooting has always been like so
so, but that's you know, he's

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better than Jeff T. Is a
lot better than Jeff T. But when

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you're thinking about his next deal,
I think I would probably do the Harrison

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Barnes route. But I don't you
know, are they willing to pay that

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much to their top four guys at
that point They're gonna need to either mind

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some gems on the trade market or
really hit home runs in free agency with

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will they even use their tax players
mid level this year. I think you

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have to. You're obligated to Ifiannas
is there. But who can you get

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for that? Like who's going to
Milwaukee over at Brooklyn if they're offering the

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same money, or even in one
of the LA teams. So they're going

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to be fascinating to watch. I
do think what they probably need is another

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shot creator who's not as much of
a liability on defense. So and it

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doesn't so I know when we say
shot creator, we automatically assume they need

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to be high end. I would
say, like a Brin Forbes level offensive

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player who's just isn't as targetable on
defense. And they they need to still

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diversify their front court rotation, probably
another bigger wing who is higher volume on

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offense than than PJ. Tucker.
So like that, like that route,

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but those are those are hard things
to get when you have very few assets

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and no cap space. Steve says, shows how much the Sun's kind of

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struck old with campaign. They picked
him out of nowhere and he turned into

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a big rotation guy. Yeah,
and now they're going to risk losing him

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because they only have his early bird
rights. And I assume that he'll have

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opportunities to play more elsewhere, especially
if Chris Paul returns to Phoenix. But

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that those are if you're a really
good team, those are the kinds of

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moves that you need to make on
the margins to really expand your rotation.

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And the Suns did it with Torrey
Craig picking up Tory Craig. That's someone

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the Bucks had. Why weren't they
applying him more? That's certainly up for

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debate, but like that's the type
of stuff that you need, or even

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picking up an abduel Nador who gave
him a good regular season minutes in the

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trade for Chris Paul being a team
that wooed Jay Crowder. Those I would

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call them doubles. The Jay Crowder
move might be closer to triple at this

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point, giving on valuable he's becomes
to them. But that's what the Bucks

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need to do, is can they
really find the perfect fit with their mid

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level or is it going to be
spent on bringing back Bobby Portis, who

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they don't have his bird rights.
Everyone assume he's going to decline his player

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option, and now you've seen that
there are matchups where he's just not gonna

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play a ton as valuable as he
was to you against Atlanta. So it's

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the Bucks are going to have a
pretty tough offseason. But I think,

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look, yea, Tanasis is the
Honest's brother. If you honest wants him

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there, I get it, Like
I'm not gonna fight that, but yeah,

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it's Tory Greig is better than Tanasis. Attend to COOPO. He does

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bring you. Tanasis gives you a
ton of energy on defense, but I

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just don't know what he provides you
on offense. Let's try and move away

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from the finals. Although I guess
this is tan gently related from the finals.

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This question was not a mail bad
question. It was sent to me

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directly via my DMS. Raoul Clement
asked about a basically a twenty eighteen NBA

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redraft. He said, it's sort
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above. Where do you have eighton
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Luca Tray and SGA are the top
three. Where does eight and fall in

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comparison to MPJ, Jaren Jackson Junior
and Michael Bridges The name that I might

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be most interested in to see,
like what happens in a twenty eighteen redraft

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could be Michael Bridges. I am
not gonna lie about that, just because

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that dude's gonna get paid. And
a good barometer for how much someone was

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watching the NBA this year might be
whether they how well they react to that.

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But so yeah, so those names, I think it's Luca still goes

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one. In that scenario, I'm
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still it's very close. Shakil Just
Alexander is third for me, so rale

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will laid that out perfectly. Luca, Tray and SGA would round out the

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top three. It gets interesting here, I think, I think you.

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I think it's eight at four.
MPJ has a real case here, But

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the back issues really worry me.
But man, the efficiency on offense and

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this dude you can't like actually defend
him. He can shoot over the top

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of anybody. If he ever gets
to a point where he's putting the ball

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on the floor more and even setting
up his teammates, that's probably an next

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frontier for him. The thing that's
made it so difficult for me when I

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was thinking about this to not take
Michael Porter Junior is he really actually improved

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on defense this year and did more
stuff as a you know, a week

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side helper being around the rim.
I don't think he's ever gonna be a

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lockdown one on one defender, but
it's a it's a big deal if he's

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just not a complete zero on defense. I still think we need to see

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more of a facilitation role from him, and so since DeAndre and I think

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him be a good back line defender
and be the anchor of a really good

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defense. Yeah, he's still trying
to figure out how to vacillate between two

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different types of modes. I would
say, when you're in the half court,

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it's there's the you know, leaving
your spot, knowing when to do

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that, but also knowing when not
to leave your man. Those are things

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that he still needs to figure out. I think it's him though. After

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that, I'm going Michael Porter Junior
at five. I Jaren Jackson Junior's tough.

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As of right now, I'm taking
Michael Bridges over him. You give

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me a wing who is all defense
caliber. I absolutely think Michael Bridges should

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have made All MBA. I'm sorry, all defense this year. You give

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me the opportunity to put that on
a roster, it's more than a three

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D wing because he can't put the
ball on the floor. Like I said

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before, he has that little bit
of a mid range game after him.

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That's when I'd throw Jaren Jackson Junior
in there. There was no one else

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that I thought of that would really
compete for that. Once you get out,

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I mean maybe a Colin Sexton might
be And we have a question about

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con Sexton, so that might be
a good segue. I think he would

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come next for me. By the
way, Colin Sexton is after at this

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point, what number are we tackling
up to? Let me double check heres.

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We have Luca, we have Trey, we have Shay, we have

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eighton A's four MPGA five, Bridges
six, Jaren Jackson Junior seven, Colin

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Sexton eight. I might take Colin
Sexton over Janeen Jackson Junior at this point

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too. The dude is just he's
a bucket, and I think he's become

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underrated as a scorer somehow. People
are probably gonna be concerned about what he

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gets in an extension. And I
get it if you view him as a

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point guard, but he's not a
point guard. He's a I think his

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passing has improved, at least when
he's on the move. It doesn't feel

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like he is tunnel vision as much. But if you can get someone who

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can score at the level that he
can, that's a big freaking deal.

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I'm trying. I just look at
Jaron Jackson Junior's potential floor spacing at his

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position, still moves really well on
defense, it's just complete anarchy where he's

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still gonna foulton and there's sometimes not
a rhyme or reason to it. I'll

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go Sexton at seven, Jaren Jackson
Junior at eight. Hopefully I'm not reading

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too much into this season where he
missed pretty much all of it. We

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have another draft question, though,
and this is a fascinating one. I

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mean I spend a lot of time
thinking about this from Nick Orman. What

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point in the draft teams start to
draft for fit versus best player available?

405
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Or should best player available always be
a choice? This is just like,

406
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this is a debate that happens every
single year, talked about ad nauseum.

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I think it gets there's there's a
lot to this. But one of my

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favorite writers, Yasmin Duale from Basketball
News, wrote a big piece on this

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exact question this past month, within
the past month, I think, and

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it is a Steve notes is a
philosophy question, but she boiled it down

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to and I think this was an
important way to close it. Talent can

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determine fit, and fit doesn't exclude
talent is a lot to really consider there.

413
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Where I sort of lean is I
don't when we think about fit.

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I do think it matters if you
want to take an older rookie because he's

415
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a wing and you need a wing
and you think he could contribute right away,

416
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and Michael Bridges might be a perfect
example here. I think where fit

417
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,039
becomes a problem or where you're drafting
for need, is you go into the

418
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draft and you say, all right, we need we need a big and

419
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,839
we're going to draft a big at
number eleven, or we need a point

420
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guard. We're drafting a point guard
at number seven. When you get tunnel

421
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vision like that, I would say
it's more problematic than any one guiding philosophy.

422
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And I also think it your timeline
matters. There's context involved here.

423
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If you're a team that's trying to
win, now, do you have time

424
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to gamble on a high upside player
just because he's the best talent versus someone

425
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who might be a better fit,
fills a need and can contribute right away.

426
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,039
I do think that sort of needs
to factor in here too. I

427
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think callous lee I could zoom out
and say you always just go for the

428
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best player or who's them the most
talented player available, because that's the biggest

429
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:40,359
swing. You want to go after
the best chance of having the highest impact

430
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player for the longest time. That
being said, like some of those guys

431
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just don't pan out, and so
you need to have really big confidence in

432
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:51,240
your developmental project and as a front
office the job security to make that type

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of the swing where you have a
speaker request. I believe I'll get to

434
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:57,000
that in a second. But Joseph
Briggs said, yeah, that's a philosophy

435
00:26:57,079 --> 00:27:00,880
question. Steve said, it seems
that it's somewhat comes down to how good

436
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,759
your team is. If you don't
have to it, you don't have top

437
00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:06,359
and talent, you need as many
shots as possible. Yeah, I would

438
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:11,079
definitely agree with that. I think
the team that could really one of the

439
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,880
teams I could define this is and
maybe it's not. And the other thing

440
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,799
that goes into this here is what
is considered the best player available. Let's

441
00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:21,720
look at this draft class where it's
Evan Mobile, Kig Cunningham, Jalen Suggs,

442
00:27:21,759 --> 00:27:25,279
and Jalen Green. So if you're
drafting one through four, and maybe

443
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:27,640
you're the Raptors at four, you're
taking who's ever left over in that situation,

444
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,119
regardless of fit, because it's just
deemed that they are the topest then

445
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,279
talent, unless again, you're thinking
about trading that pick. It gets a

446
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:37,839
little bit difficult when you're moving on
to subsequent picks and it's oh, does

447
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:44,559
Scotty Barnes belong at number six?
So I think the note from Joseph is

448
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:47,119
the best one is that it is
a philosophy question. I don't know that

449
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,720
there's one size fits all. When
it comes through a team, it matters

450
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,680
about their situation, matters about their
timeline, the jobs during the front office

451
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,920
where they are I think more importantly
in their competitive timeline those I just mentioned

452
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,279
is more important than anything. But
I just you know, even if you

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draft who is ever deemed the best
player at that time, and maybe it's

454
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:08,720
the best player by a landslide,
you could you could screw that player up.

455
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:11,000
They could be a terrible fit for
your roster. If they need to

456
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,200
have the ball in their hands and
you don't have spacing around them and there's

457
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,839
a ton of other ball handlers on
your roster, that's not the best situation

458
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,799
for them to be in. So
you know, it might be like,

459
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,839
imagine if the Sixers of last year
just drafted Ben Simmons onto their team.

460
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,680
Is like he would or like he
would very clearly be the best player in

461
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:36,000
that available in theory in that twenty
twenty draft, But how good is he

462
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,119
to that team because his fit is
so wonky there. So that's a fact.

463
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:45,599
It's a fascinating question. I absolutely
love it, and I just think

464
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:48,839
that it's always going to athlete.
I don't know that you can just subscribe

465
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,079
to one of those theories. We
do have a speaker request from bus boy

466
00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:56,400
KP, so I'm going to throw
you the mic. Let us know what's

467
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:03,279
on your mind, bus boy KP, bus boy KP, are you there

468
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,920
all right? If you come back, feel free to request speaking again.

469
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,880
Steve notes in the chat, development
is never guaranteed. Yeah, I think

470
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that's you know, it's perfect,
And I think you could also look like

471
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,240
a Devin Booker doesn't fall in the
lottery because people didn't think he was like

472
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:26,759
they passed on the best player available. Like there's where Tyler heroes and falling

473
00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:29,240
the lottery, Like there are just
teams that might not think they're the best

474
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,279
player available. We do have another
speaker request. This one is from Joseph.

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00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,359
Joseph, I'm handing you the mic. How's it going, Joseph,

476
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:41,720
It's going great. I may have
come in a little late for you talking

477
00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:45,319
about Bucks and Sons, but I
wanted to incorporate what you're talking about with

478
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:52,599
the finance a little bit, just
talking about bledsoe versus Holiday. You know

479
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,519
the Holiday contract is I mean,
you can see it as obscene. I

480
00:29:57,599 --> 00:30:03,039
live in Wisconsin. I've been a
Bucks fan for thirty years, had to

481
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:11,200
endure the nineties Bulls. But you
know, Holiday is exponentially better than Plezzo

482
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,240
and so kind of weathering the storm
here. The Bucks don't have a ball

483
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:22,400
handler, so they need a true
ball handler. I mean, Jannis is

484
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,519
handling the ball. I guess my
question is do you kind of, you

485
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:30,599
know, going into the draft,
do the Bucks look to get a pure

486
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,319
ball handler, even if kind of
off the radar. That's kind of where

487
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:40,440
I'm at right now with the Bucks
Winn or Lewis. Yeah, and I

488
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,279
don't know if you're here for that, But I said, Drew Holiday,

489
00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:44,960
still, even as poorly as he's
been playing, he is you picked through

490
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,599
Holliday over at Bletso right now one
hundred times out of one hundred, just

491
00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:52,559
what he brings defensively and then defenses
at least still care about through Holidays where

492
00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:56,079
they just they didn't care at all
all about Eric Bletso. I agree with

493
00:30:56,119 --> 00:31:00,240
your point that they do need I
guess you could argue it's a primary ball

494
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,759
handler. I don't know that you
would necessarily go after someone in that mold

495
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,720
just because you are going to have
the ball so much in a holiday Middleton

496
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:08,720
or Yannis's hands. I don't know
that I would take a shot. I

497
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,799
mean, yeah, go ahead and
take a shot in the draft, but

498
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,440
realistically, what is your second round
pick, even though it's you call it

499
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,720
a fringe first rounder at that point, given where they're given, where they're

500
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,880
seated, how likely is he to
contribute in year one? How likely see

501
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,640
to get a chance in year one? It would be something for them to

502
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,559
consider. I think what they're going
to need to do is figure out a

503
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:34,519
way to hit it via free agency? Is there someone that falls through the

504
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:38,039
cracks there? And when you look
at the names of like there are free

505
00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:42,119
agent point guards, but all of
them virtually just fall out of the Buck's

506
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:45,920
range. And like, let's not
even forget about the stars like Kyle Lowry,

507
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,880
Chris Paul and Mike Conley. Spencer
Dinwoody would be great for this team

508
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,599
out of their price range. I
don't really know what Dennis Strueter would be

509
00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:53,240
for this team. He's gonna be
out of their price ranginge anyway, I

510
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,680
wouldn't want to be the team that
pays him. Personally, DeVante Graham out

511
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,839
of your price range, probably because
he's gonna get at least the full non

512
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,240
text players mid level, which you're
probably not working with. You know,

513
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,680
if Gore and drogets his team option
is declined, he's probably gonna get at

514
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:12,039
least ten million a year. Can
you get yourself. I mean, I'm

515
00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:14,759
just trying to look at names that
you could get involved with for the mini

516
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:19,559
mid level, and the options are
just not like great, I don't know,

517
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,200
you know, minimid levels not even
gonna entice Reggie Jackson. At this

518
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,680
point, the Clippers would one hundred
percent. They can and will pay him

519
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,759
more than that based on the early
bird rights that they have. Is a

520
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:31,920
Patty Mills doing it for you?
A campaign would be great, but they're

521
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,319
not going to be able to afford
him either. They might have to look

522
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:38,160
at trades and it might be a
scenario where you know, and you have

523
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,720
to be mindful of actually what type
of players are available because you're not working

524
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,720
with Yeah, in theory and I'm
not saying they should do this even if

525
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:50,000
they could, maybe you can go
out and get Kemba Walker for free from

526
00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:52,519
ok see, just because you're willing
to send out the money. They just

527
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:54,640
don't have the money at this point
in contracts to do something like that.

528
00:32:54,680 --> 00:33:00,440
So you have to go after like
a player who's mediumly priced and might even

529
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,039
be just lower priced or or below
market. And those players can be they're

530
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:07,279
tough to find, and it's you
know, you start getting into names like

531
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:10,759
Okay, well like a Thomas said
Ransky if he's a free agent or if

532
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:15,720
the Bulls make him available, should
they guarantee a salary? Is that someone

533
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:19,720
that you're considering. I do think
if you're Milwaukee, you might have some

534
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,720
tools to pull off a sign and
trade. But as I mentioned at the

535
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,599
top of this, I don't they're
not a team that I can envision working

536
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,440
with within the hardcap. A team
like them in Philadelphia, like, that's

537
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,799
really tough for them. You can
maybe pick up like a Trey Burke from

538
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:35,720
Dallas, but that doesn't come back
to Joseph's primary point, which I think

539
00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:38,119
is a fair one. You probably
need someone who's closer to a primary setup

540
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,160
man at this point. If there
was, I don't know how much he's

541
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,519
gonna cost. I guess it's more
the TJ McConnell could end up working for

542
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,240
this roster, Like that's someone who
could really help them. I don't know

543
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:52,599
where they necessarily find that guy,
though, because they aren't a tough situation,

544
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:58,079
I would definitely be in support of
them taking a swing in the draft.

545
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:01,359
And as someone who has not begun
his you know, neck deep draft

546
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:06,160
pre prep work yet, I just
don't know who's going to be available to

547
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,079
you in the second round to make
an impact. And so you know,

548
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:13,400
does Derek Rose called through the cracks
on free agency, He probably helps you

549
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,039
a little bit. But the you
know, they're not a ton of options

550
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:22,000
out there for Milwaukee, and I
think they're more likely probably to address it

551
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:24,159
effectively on the trade market. Just
when you look at the free agents available,

552
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:28,039
but most of them are going to
command unless someone agrees to, you

553
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:30,360
know, I think a go on
Drags would be an example of, oh,

554
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,920
I just want to the Heat.
They decided to opt for cap space,

555
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,119
got rid of decline his team option, and he just decides, you

556
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:37,360
know what, I want to be
on a team that's that will play me,

557
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,159
and that's really close to and on
the verge of a title. There

558
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,280
just aren't a lot of guys out
there like that. Even if it was

559
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,239
Patty Mills, I don't think Patty
Mills is a primary ball handler. He's

560
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,719
like a you know, he's an
upgrade over Brent Forbes, certainly, but

561
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,280
he's not gonna he's gonna be targeted
on defense himself. So that was a

562
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:58,400
great question, Joseph, Did you
have anything you wanted to add to that

563
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:05,239
before I remove your you're speaking privileges. That was a terrific answer. Thank

564
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,960
you for that. I just I
just want to add, you know,

565
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:15,000
a sweep versus the Bucks going six
or seven, maybe that sways someone.

566
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:17,840
You know, it's a players league. If they go six or seven,

567
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,800
maybe they can convince someone to come. That's all I have. Thank you,

568
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:27,800
thanks, thanks so much for stopping
by. Joseph. Uh yeah,

569
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,320
and look a name that I'd be
interested for them to try for or two

570
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,360
of them really, and I don't
these players might be more expensive than the

571
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,199
bus can afford. I would love
lou Will in Milwaukee. Someone's gonna get

572
00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:42,239
targeted on defense, but he's he's
not a true point guard, but he

573
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,559
can run, pick and roll to
death and you can envision him. He

574
00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:49,800
helped in Lanta out for stretches orn
Alec Burks, where it's someone who's comfortable,

575
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,679
you know, being a secondary guy
if you're orn Austin Rivers, even

576
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,840
if you're not. And I guess
my point here is if you're not going

577
00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:00,400
to get the primary guy, hit
a homer on the secondary guy that you're

578
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,559
that you're really going to go after. So yeah, I'm going to be

579
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:07,199
fascinated. And a lot will depend
on You're right, Joseph. How they

580
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,119
end this series. I'm assuming it's
not going to be a sweep based off

581
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:13,920
of making his age is extremely poorly, but my guests would be it is

582
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,960
not a sweep just based off what
I've seen in Games one and two.

583
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,400
So we'll have to We'll have to
wait and see. There. Let's get

584
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:28,280
to a another question here that we
have ruminating. Namboo asked what should we

585
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:35,000
expect from Celtics's new head coach m
Udoka. Udoka has been involved in a

586
00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:37,199
lot of head coaching hires. Well, excuse me, he's been a head

587
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:42,239
coaching candidate many times before. I
think the thing that people are immediately gonna

588
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,519
gratate too is you spent a lot
of time in the Spurst system. You

589
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:46,880
know, he's defensive focus and that's
similar to Brad Stevens. And I think

590
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,800
that's good because Boston did fall off
defensively this year, and you want a

591
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,079
coach who can maximize your defensive talent
without necessarily getting a huge talent infusion.

592
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,239
And Boston is not really in a
position to get a huge talent infusion.

593
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,760
They do have Al Horford, and
you know, maybe they should bring back

594
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,679
up Infya, but he's not going
to help you defensively. He might be

595
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,559
in someone who can install principles that
allows them to overachieve on defense. Also,

596
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:14,000
based off what I've read, Rudy
Guey said this as well. So

597
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:20,920
and he obviously spent time with Udoka
in San Antonio. He holds players more

598
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,760
accountable than Brad Stevens. Is how
people would frame it, because Brad Stevens

599
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:29,679
was sort of the silent type and
that maybe was more of like a public

600
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,400
persona. But I think with the
number of times we heard stuff emanating from

601
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,079
the locker room in Boston or the
year before they kind of blew it up,

602
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,400
was that it seems like forever ago
was that twenty nineteen eighteen two nineteen

603
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,639
season, how tough it was for
them to navigate the season with so many

604
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:49,920
contract to your guys on on their
roster. It might be fair to say

605
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,840
that he's not much of a disciplinarian. And I'm not saying you need this

606
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:55,440
rigid force in charge. It is
a players league and you need to be

607
00:37:55,679 --> 00:38:01,000
fungible, adaptable, malluable. But
Ruge said, and this is per Stadium's

608
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:05,239
Jeff Goodman. He won't tell a
player what he wants to hear him,

609
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,599
won't back down from anyone. He's
got the perfect balance. He'll laugh and

610
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,159
joke, but knows how to be
serious. And so if he's able to

611
00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:16,679
strike that hedge like a like Greg
Popovich has done a lot in San Antonio.

612
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,880
You've given him at least the top
end talent when fully healthy. Anyway,

613
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:23,440
in Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown,
if you keep Marcus smart, and

614
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,760
you know, maybe even Al Horford, that might be the quintessential guy where

615
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,039
it's wow, Al Horford? Do
we consider him for all defense next season?

616
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:31,719
Just because of what he did in
Boston? I'm exaggerating, but maybe

617
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,880
this is just a like, it's
that type of coaching hi IT teams.

618
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:42,519
He's also for anyone who cares the
first Nigerian NBA head coach, So that

619
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,559
is pretty cool. Let's find some
other questions here, and if anyone has

620
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:49,599
ones, you can still feel free
to throw them in the chat. I

621
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:55,159
will get to them. We have
another question from Gilliard mirandum. He essentially

622
00:38:55,199 --> 00:39:00,679
asked him rewording this because which teams
beat upon who shot fifty percent on threes

623
00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:06,960
while making at least fifteen threes in
that game's only in the playoffs? Interesting

624
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:10,239
question obviously, it is, you
know, somewhat topical, but it has

625
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:16,719
happened now four five times on record
in the playoffs. The teams to make

626
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:22,559
at least fifteen threes while shooting fifty
percent on them and losing. Were the

627
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:28,679
Dallas Mavericks this season May twenty eighth
against the Clippers. Last year in the

628
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,920
playoffs, Utah did it against Denver
and lost. They lost by quite a

629
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:37,679
bit too. Then in twenty eighteen, Denver did it against the Spurs and

630
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,199
lost by ten eighteen to one oh
eight. Then in twenty sixteen, Detroit

631
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:46,519
did it against Cleveland. They lost
by five, so it was close.

632
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:50,440
It feels like I don't know,
can't believe Detroit was in the playoffs in

633
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,599
twenty and sixteen. It feels like
it's been longer than that. And then

634
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:59,639
it hasn't happened since then. Prior
to two thousand and two, Boston hit

635
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,280
fifteen three shot fifteen of thirty and
then lost against Philadelphia in the That looks

636
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,880
like it was a first round series
of the playoffs. So it's only happened

637
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,800
five times. You're gonna shoot fifty
percent from three while making fifteen three pointers,

638
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,960
chances are you're you have a pretty
good chance of not losing. So

639
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:24,239
interesting question. Thank you for it, Billiard. Kyle asked, let's go

640
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,599
to this one first, because it's
fairly quick. Lewis Angel Santana asked,

641
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,239
who are the top ten leaders in
finals? Pear, I'd rather look at

642
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:38,599
playoff PR and I'm also not the
biggest PR fan, So I did PR

643
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:45,159
and VORP and I set it at
a minimum of five hundred minutes playing throughout

644
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:50,960
you know their postseason resume history and
in PR. Let's I'll read off the

645
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:53,320
top five, the top five in
PR right now in NBA history in the

646
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,639
playoffs, but number five hundred total
minutes postseason played. Michael Jordan is one

647
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,320
twenty eight point six, George mike
In eight point five is two, Lebron

648
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,039
is three at twenty eight point two. Anthony Davis checking in at four.

649
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,920
Low volume of playoff appearances helps him
there twenty seven point seven, and then

650
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:13,719
Yo Kich twenty seven five, Shaq
is six, Hakim is seven, eight

651
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:19,440
is Jannis, nine is Durant,
and ten is good old reliable Tim Duncan.

652
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,360
The top ten leaders in postseason VORP
again minimum five hundred post seasons played.

653
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,880
Lebron leads that by a quite a
large margin. He's at number one.

654
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,880
Michael Jordan's number two, again by
quite a large margin over everybody else.

655
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,280
It starts to get closer where you
look at Tim Duncan is three,

656
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,840
Magic is four, Kobe is five, Lowry Bird is six, Shack is

657
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,280
seven, Scottie Pippen is eight,
Kadi is nine, ten is Kareem.

658
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:45,639
The reason I would just prefer vourp
Pier, by the way, for anyone

659
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:52,320
that cares is prs just gonna reward
volume a lot more. And just given

660
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,519
the pace of play in the NBA
today, that's why you saw so many

661
00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:01,639
modern day guys in the top ten
of that first one. So just a

662
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:07,000
little fun fact there. Let's get
back to the question from Kyle. Is

663
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:15,119
there any statistical way to justify paying
Colin Sexton one hundred plus million dollars for

664
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:20,239
anyone who's curious. The initiation here
is probably one because there's been rumors that

665
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,199
maybe the Cavaliers would consider trading Colin
Sexton. And the impetus behind that is

666
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:29,519
two, he is extension eligible.
And you get into this situation where you

667
00:42:29,639 --> 00:42:31,840
have these guys and rookie scale deals. From a team perspective, it's easier

668
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:37,639
to build around them, enjoy them. You don't need as definitive results because

669
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,719
they're so cheap. They're on those
scale deals for a minimum of four years,

670
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,599
or you have team control over them. I should say for a minimum

671
00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:50,400
of four years. Colin Sexton,
now you're in Cleveland, they're still not

672
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:52,679
good. You also up Darius Garland
on the roster. He profiles more as

673
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:55,480
your lead ball handler. You have
the number three pick in this year's draft,

674
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:59,559
or you're gonna wind up with a
joln Green or a jail In Suggs

675
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:05,119
in that situation complicating you're pecking letter
a little bit more there and how much

676
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:08,920
is con Sexton going to command?
Fair question? So looking at and look,

677
00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:14,039
this is whatever you think of Colin
Sexton, the numbers are just they

678
00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:16,400
jump off the page. He average
over twenty points for games a sophomore this

679
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:20,599
past season, though his third year
twenty four point three points, four point

680
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:23,400
four assists, thirty seven point one
percent on threes, fifty point eight percent

681
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:27,800
on twos, and he's not just
hitting all these easy looks. So that

682
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:31,480
you know that level of efficiency matters. And this is quite company to keep.

683
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,639
And this is here's the stat that's
going to I guess justify you if

684
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:40,679
you wanted to paying Colin Sexton one
hundred million dollars over I'm assuming you're saying

685
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:45,559
a five year deal you can make
one hundred over four because that's below is

686
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:52,400
max. Still, but only eleven
other players last season averaged over twenty points

687
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,360
while downing more than fifty percent of
their twos, and excuse me, average

688
00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:00,599
twenty four points while downing over fifty
percent of their twos and thirty seven percent

689
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,480
of their threes. The company is
eleven players. Sounds like a lot,

690
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:07,639
but then you read the players Joel
Embiid, Kevin Durant, Dame Karl,

691
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:13,039
Anthony Town's contexts and of course Kawai, Nicoleoki, Steph Gurry, Zach Lvie

692
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:15,760
and Jayson Tatum, Jalen Brown,
Kyriering. That's an absurd company to keep.

693
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,079
And also when you look at the
frequency with which these guys get to

694
00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:23,039
the line, con Sexton was fifth
in free throw attempt rade, behind only

695
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:30,039
Kat Dame Kadi and Joel Embiid,
So that's something to consider. And I

696
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:36,760
don't know what his actual extension number
will be this summer. It would not

697
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,280
surprise me. I will one,
if they don't reach an extension, they

698
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,119
prefer to kick the can down to
restrict the free agency. But two,

699
00:44:42,519 --> 00:44:45,039
I would think this is someone who
I don't maybe twenty four points and four

700
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:50,079
assists on this efficiency isn't what it
used to be. If he's getting less

701
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:52,000
than eighteen million dollars a year,
and I actually think that might be on

702
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:55,719
the lower end, I would just
be really surprised. And there are if

703
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,519
that's the offer the Cows present to
him, Let's say it's something like four

704
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:04,559
eighty five one hundred. Maybe he
signs it, but you might, if

705
00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:07,599
you're him, want to roll the
dice. On cap space teams in twenty

706
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:14,519
twenty two, there's always this implicit
should agreement, implicit mandate that you're going

707
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:21,320
to overpay or come out with these
huge bids for restricted free agents because that's

708
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,840
the single best way to poach them. These teams aren't just gonna let free

709
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,559
agents worth of damn leave it just
it doesn't. It doesn't work like that.

710
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:35,480
So I think that's the justification.
I think the right team can pay

711
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:37,199
him that much money and be okay, And I think coll Sex is a

712
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,880
really good player. I also do
not think that the Cavaliers are that team

713
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,440
full stop. I just don't think
they're there yet. Let's get to these

714
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:47,719
last two quick questions. Yet this
one. I'm assuming Santria thought maybe I

715
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,159
wouldn't answer it, but he said
sexiest NBA player. I mean, it's

716
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:55,079
got to be like Devin Booker or
Kelly Bray Jr. I don't know,

717
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,920
like who else is the I don't
know what the other candidates would be,

718
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,480
but the one of those would be
my pick and former teammates at this point.

719
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,119
Final question, though, is I
think it's a question that's on a

720
00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:12,199
lot of people's minds. The Box
End one fantastic website run by a friend

721
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,280
of the podcast, actually Adam Spinella. Where is Reggie Jackson going? Or

722
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,679
more importantly, who's going to back
up the brigstruck for him? Now?

723
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,719
Reggie Jackson's case in free agency and
I'm sorry, cap geekery really gets me

724
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:30,320
going. But Reggie Jackson's situation with
the Clippers is a fragile I would say,

725
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:36,719
just because they do have early bird
rights on him. But early birdwrights

726
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,559
have their limitations. So what they
can do in essence is forget about the

727
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:44,559
raise. I think it's one hundred
and ninety percent or whatever. The can't

728
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:47,559
remember this at this point, but
they can give him a raise off last

729
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:52,760
year's salary or up to the league
average salary before dipping into cap space.

730
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,159
The league average salary right now is
projected to fall somewhere between ten and ten

731
00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:00,159
point four million. There's a chance
someone gives Reggie Jackson more than that,

732
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,480
and the Clippers don't have capspit like
that's it's a little bit more than the

733
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:06,800
mid level exception, which is cocking
it at nine point eight I believe to

734
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:12,119
start. So maybe he doesn't get
that, and maybe he did say at

735
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:14,960
the end of the postseason, this
team saved me, is what he told

736
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,119
them, and so maybe he wants
to just come back. He did.

737
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,280
He had the bigger deal, five
years, eighty million with Detroit and they

738
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,199
can You know, this is how
I thought what Phoenix did, which was

739
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,719
a stroke of genius with Jay Crowder, and I can't believe another team wasn't

740
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,159
willing to do this and wasn't willing
to go to four years. They have

741
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,760
him three guaranteed years at the middle
level exception. So if you're a team

742
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:37,159
that wants Reggie Jackson might only want
to invest in him for a year or

743
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,800
two. You can separate yourself as
the Clippers by saying we'll give you three

744
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,639
years at the full mid level we'll
give or rather the raise we can give

745
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:46,400
you because they're gonna have the minimid
level, or we'll give you four years.

746
00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:50,519
Maybe it's three years plus one,
like there's a team option on there,

747
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:54,639
so that would be how they can
distinguish themselves. I will be fascinated

748
00:47:54,719 --> 00:48:00,199
though, to see which teams might
consider actually going after him, and if

749
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:04,639
you're we're looking at if there are
teams that we're going to say have the

750
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,400
the mid level full let's say the
full mid level. If that's the range

751
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,800
he falls into, the Clippers keep
him because I would assume that they're gonna

752
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,360
have no coallems about paying him the
ten million dollars league average salary. So

753
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,800
you're almost looking for teams that can
bid higher or would give him more guarantee

754
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,840
years. So I do think that
if you have the non tax players mid

755
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:28,920
level exception, you're in Reggie Jackson
range teams to consider there. Maybe Boston

756
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:32,320
needs like a secondary point. I
mean they got rid of Kemba Walker too,

757
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,920
so there's that to consider. I'm
not sure which first of the mid

758
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,159
level they're gonna be working with just
yet, or how long they are to

759
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:39,880
pay a tax, even if they
can stay below the apron. That's a

760
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,559
team where would be really interesting.
Chicago because use a point guard and it

761
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:46,079
seems like they want to win.
Now, a clarity on that when we

762
00:48:46,159 --> 00:48:51,400
find out, like what's going on
with the zach Lavine renegotiate and extend talks.

763
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:57,119
Dallas would be interesting. They'll have
cap space, or if they choose

764
00:48:57,119 --> 00:48:59,679
to operate as an over the cap
team, which is possible because they do

765
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,280
have Hardway Junior's cap holed to work
with if they want to keep him,

766
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:06,760
they'll have the mid level probably not. Reggie Jackson isn't the traditional shot creator

767
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,159
that you want alongside Lucadante, but
he can run, pick and roll.

768
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:13,920
I mean, Detroit built a pretty
good offense around a healthy Reggie Jackson pick

769
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,159
and roll with with Andre Drummond and
whatever you think about Chris stops now,

770
00:49:17,199 --> 00:49:21,679
he's a little bit more dynamic on
offense than Andre Drummond. So having someone

771
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:23,480
to run picking pops with and just
so look, just so we're clear,

772
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:28,840
Reggie Jackson this postseason average seventeen point
eight points, three point four assists,

773
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,480
jeff forty point eight percent from three, and fifty eight point two percent from

774
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:35,519
two. I don't think you expect
that to be as new normal, but

775
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:37,039
when they needed him, he really
stepped up, and that's going to be

776
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:40,519
embedded into people's minds and the reluctance
for the Clippers to pay it might just

777
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:45,519
be we still kind of need Patrick
Beverley. Can we move Rondo seven point

778
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:49,199
five million into cap space and he
only played twenty three minutes a game for

779
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,639
US last season? How much are
we realistically going to increase that when Kawhi

780
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,280
Leonard is healthy. I would argue
there's still plenty of him to increase.

781
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,119
Increase that if you want to play
him closer to thirty minutes a game.

782
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:00,880
He was only at ten point seven
points in the regular season, but he

783
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,440
showed now that he's a bet,
like he's a good three point shooter.

784
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:06,239
That was the question for him.
I don't know if anyone remembers like when

785
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,599
he was younger, first traded to
Detroit while he was with OKAC, and

786
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,480
yeah, he's had some up and
down seasons. He shot thirty five point

787
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:15,800
three thirty five point nine in his
first two full seasons with Detroit. In

788
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,639
his final full season, he was
at thirty point eight percent, but you

789
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:24,079
know, including two eighteen, twenty
nineteen up till now. He shot thirty

790
00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:28,320
nine point three percent from three and
so we're looking at three seasons worth of

791
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,360
samples there, like, this is
someone you could count to be catch and

792
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,760
shoot guy, maybe give you some
pick and roll and off the drive responsibility.

793
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,039
So that's why I do think he's
gonna have a wide market. Also,

794
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:37,960
if you're a team that really can't
afford a star like a Lowry,

795
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:40,679
or if you don't think Lowry or
Conley or CP three is gonna leave,

796
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:44,840
he's just he or campaign at this
point, even though he's not, you

797
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,480
know, cooking necessarily in the finals, they've become interesting options. A team

798
00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:52,119
that would be fascinating is Denver because
of the Jamal Murray injury. They do

799
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:57,280
have Kundo Compazo and Monte Morris.
Reggie Jackson offensively would be an upgrade over

800
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,559
either one of those guys. To
me, I don't know if they were

801
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:04,119
going to have full taxa non taxpayermid
level to work with, though that depends

802
00:51:04,119 --> 00:51:07,760
on whether Robart knops out. Jamichael
Green is a player option. What they

803
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,599
do with Paul millsaps free agent hold
that would just be be fascinating there.

804
00:51:10,639 --> 00:51:15,639
The Golden State Warriors could really use
him, they can't afford him. Yeah,

805
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the Lakers could actually use Reggie Jackson. They'll be hard pressed though,

806
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to use the non taxpayers mid level. And if you're gonna stay in LA

807
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,280
for the non taxpayers mid level like
that type of money, I would guess

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00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,920
you just go back to the Clippers. We already mentioned the Bucks. They

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could certainly use them. I just
don't project them to have the full MLI

810
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to work with. The Pelicans could
probably use him, but they're like weirdly

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guard dense, but none of them
are proven playmakers or floor spacers. Really,

812
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if you get rid of Eric Bletsoe, you're not bringing a guard back

813
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and that deal. Maybe that's a
team that works its way into the discussion.

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The Knicks would be a team I
would legitimately worry about. They do

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seem like a squad where I'm not
saying they won't give out multi year contracts

816
00:51:57,679 --> 00:52:00,400
this year, but it's not the
year to have this space, and I

817
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think they're gonna wind up prioritizing flexibility
over the next you know, for twenty

818
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,400
twenty two free a or twenty twenty
three free agency yet they have all this

819
00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:12,239
cap space. Can you offer Reggie
Jackson a one plus one that's inflated for

820
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,360
him to come their beer starting point
guard, because that's the spot you could

821
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give him like those, that's the
Alpha Payton spot readily available. You know,

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would they give him fifteen million just
for the one season like they did

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with Marcus Morris last year? It's
possible. Would they even guarantee him two

824
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,159
years just that you know? Is
this a three year, thirty nine million

825
00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:31,800
dollars situation with two of those years
guaranteed. That's something that I could see

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them doing. Philly could really use
him, They just don't have a pathway

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to get to him. Phoenix would
be interesting, but I don't know why

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you want to move on from him
for campaign. I do think paying provides

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00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:47,199
a little bit more off the dribble
juice for Phoenix. Portland doesn't invest in

830
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:51,800
backup point guards, probably can't afford
him anyway. That really might be it?

831
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Maybe San Antonio if they are depending
on how much they want to win

832
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:59,400
next year, they'll have cap space
and Dejante Murray Derek White even if they

833
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,119
premut them. Rosen is proven it
can be an engine they need like a

834
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playmaker, a primary playman crew can
also shoot threes, and they just don't

835
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:08,440
have that right now. Reggie Jackson
can be that. I don't think Toronto

836
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:13,679
would get involved, maybe if Kyle
Lowry leaves, but a Van Fleet Reggie

837
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,039
Jackson starting back court is I mean, it's tiny even so with Lowry Evan

838
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:21,079
Fleet, but the defense you're getting
from Jackson is nowhere near what you're getting

839
00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:24,039
from nowhere near what you're getting from
Kyle Lowry. Of course, I would

840
00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:28,199
also make a case for Washington if
they do need sort of a you know,

841
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,559
someone to upgrade over like you know
how how Will Netto gave him great

842
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:35,199
minutes, but not as offense first
player is Smith? Is not? It?

843
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,360
So, Reggie Jackson, if you're
gonna use your mid level on someone

844
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,480
and you're you're you're not trading Bradley
Beale. I guess there's something to be

845
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:45,760
said though about using your best spending
tool on another guard when you're already burning

846
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,360
like eighty million dollars or whatever it
is on your backcourt. And Bradley Beal

847
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,199
and Russell Westbrook, if there are
no other questions in the chat, I

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will wrap us up. This was
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