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This is later with Lee Matthews the
Lee Matthews Podcast more what you hear weekday

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Afternoons on the Drive. You know
Kim Coats from his work and Sons of

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Anarchy Lily Simmons as well from PowerBook
four Force. They are now co stars

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of a new film, Double Down
South, which is in theaters this week,

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and it is about the underground or
seeney girld of world of high stakes

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Keino gambling. Kim coachs, let's
start with you. What is Keino pool

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gambling? Oh my gosh, I
have no no, I'm kidding, key

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Keino. I think we all know
Keino in today's world from you know,

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Vegas, from the Bingo game,
that kind of stuff. Keino was a

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massive pools billiards gambling game played on
a pool table from the late sixties to

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the early seventies. It started in
Chicago, they moved down south to Nashville,

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the Atlanta region all all down South. It was a super big high

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stakes gambling game. And Tom Shulman, our writer director and I'm sure really

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looking curR, He's had this story
that he's wanted to write about for some

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fifty years and he finally did it. Over the COVID break and Lily and

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I were fortunate enough to be cast
in this incredible little film that we're very

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proud of, Academy Award winning Tom
Chulman. I might add that the movie

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is doubled down South and Lily,
did, do you concur? I didn't

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mean to interrupt you there, Oh, I absolutely concur. I feel so

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lucky to have worked with Kim,
Tom whole pass. We're such a family

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now. I think it's a really
special little movie we got and it is

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available now in theaters, which is
out now. Kim, did you have

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to brush up on your pool skills
to get into this role? Absolutely not.

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I've been a professional pool player of
my whole life. But I have

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to I have to say this right
off the bat lead that Lily's work in

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this movie is not only like phenomenal, She's brilliant, but for her to

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get serious about playing pool, and
to get serious about how good she became

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to do this movie, we really
don't have a movie without Lily's professional pool

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style and the way she held the
queue and the way she chocked it.

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And I know she'll know she should
talk about it, actually, but yeah,

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no, I was I've been playing
Pool my whole life, but to

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see Lily train and train and train
to become like probably the best Pool player.

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When we were filming this movie was
literally something to watch. Yeah,

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thanks Matt Craven, friends of Kim's
and Tom's. We spent I want to

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say, like eight hours a day
before we had it off. Yeah,

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you did all yeah, before we
end off to Georgia because I had no

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idea what I was doing. I
mean, I don't even know how to

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do a proper bridge. And everyone's
patience, Tim Coates and Lily Simmons.

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The name of the movie is Double
Down South. It's out now. It

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takes place in the Deep South.
It's about high stakes keino gambling. And

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as we get deeper into this,
into this role, Kim, your character

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finds her basically in one of these
CD houses and decides, hey, this

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girl's got something. Not really basically, it's almost likely this this, this

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movie is the and you mentioned Tom
Shulman, the Oscar winner from Dead Poets

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Society. Tommy knows how to write, and Tommy knows how to tell his

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story. And this story is so
it's so deep, and it's so filled

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with so many things about the South
in the early nineties that when Tom he

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sent me the script, I said
yes right away. After we changed a

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few things in the actual story.
But it's an incredible drama and it's almost

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like a play. There's eight characters
really in this film. There's hundreds of

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extras, but there's really eight characters. And the house itself is a mansion.

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I've torn down to crepit mansion that
it's almost a character in the movie

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itself. So to film it during
COVID eight people staying safe being tested every

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day, it's a testament to actually
all of us, I think, and

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to be able to rehearse it for
one week so to get all the questions

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out of the way. Lily and
I had so many questions that we just

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got out of the way with Tom
and Rick Wallace the producer, And it's

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just been an Alan Cadillo the DP
right, DP, Lily how cut great?

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Was Alan right? And it's just
that we're just so proud of this

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little movie, and it's so it's
so dramatic. The ending's going to blow

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you away. That's all I have
to say. Kim Coates and Lily Simmons

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of Double Down South and Lily,
did you have to immerse yourself in anything

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else other than learning how to play
pool? I would say we'd all immersed

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ourselves in some sort of Southern accent. That's what I was getting at.

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Yeah, I mean I was lucky, My character was lucky enough. Kim,

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I don't remember if you had a
specific accent, but Tom told me

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straight up, you know, Diana
has lived a transient life. Accent is

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a little bit of a mix of
everything. And yeah, I mean we

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all had to start doing our accents
between takes because you know, you just

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got to keep it up. You
don't want to lose it. And it

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was I felt like I stayed in
Diana most of the time. And Kim's

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right, I mean filming it was
such a joy and it really felt like

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summer camp, and we all worked
our butts off. Yeah. Yeah,

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And none of this brought phones to
set or anything. I mean, there

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was no cell phones in the early
nineties that we just didn't bring our phonks

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to set. We didn't have big
trailers to stay company, and we stayed

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in that house. We had rooms
that we shared in that house. That

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is basically you know, three quarters
of the story. So in a way.

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Not only was it a smart movie. I know I'm biased because I'm

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starting in it with Lily, but
I got to tell you, Tom knew

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exactly how to write a movie,
to get shot and filmed during COVID,

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to keep everyone safe, and to
come out at the end with this movie

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that we just keep winning all these
awards at these beautiful little film festivals,

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and how to open it on the
nineteenth of January for Lily and me and

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the rest of the castes. It's
just a really special pot for pre independent

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movies like this. Coats Lily Simmons, you mentioned the tests for COVID all

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the time. This was back when
they really had to dig around in your

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nose at the end of the at
the end of the shoot. Were you

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tired of having something up your nose? My nose, My nose is never

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tired of having anything up my I
You know, that's a very complicated question

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there, Lee, But no,
we were all we were all tired of

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it. But it didn't it didn't
matter. We were doing. We were

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supposed to do what science was telling
us to do, and and we were

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all proud to stay negative. Everyone
was right, all negative the whole time.

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The whole time, Darling, the
whole time. Being negative is positive

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in that case, and I bet
you won't even be able to tell it

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a shot during the pandemic. Kim
Coates, Lily Simmons and the name of

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the movie is Double Down South.
That is out now everywhere you get your

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movies. Thank you for joining us
today, Thank you very much. Thanks

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for listening to Later with Lee Matthews, the Lee Matthews Podcast, and remember

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