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z R two SAD and iHeartRadio Station. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to

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Eye on the Ball Hero Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's

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jagin Zaalaz. Got a guy Kevin
in today fifteen minutes to we'd like to

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give us a quick call before we
take our first break and interview. Welcome

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to Tuesday's show, Another day closer
to a lot of things. Yeah,

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it think its gonna be fun though. We got a couple of couple of

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guys that we have We have fun
with. Bud Withers, one of the

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old guard sports writers, you know
he was he had been around a while

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when we came around. Yeah.
Yeah, so I reached out to this

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morning after, you know, trying
to get others. Don't tell him that

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to ask him, you know who
who's turning around in their graves now that

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he covered right about today's situation,
because as you know, well, how

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do you think Tomy would take this? I'm talking about I'm talking about players

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getting players getting paid, transfer portal
all that stuff. I actually think he

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would be happy that players are finally
getting their share. I do. I

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don't know how he would like dealing
with all of it, right, dealing

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with uh you go egos, transfer
portals, making decisions as to who gets

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paid and who gets how much and
that kind of stuff. But I think

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in the end he would be happy
that that that players are getting this because

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he knows how he knew. He
always recognized how hard they work. And

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he had guys that, like like
Tommy Lakeson were dogs, right, guys

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who just came here, blue collar
guys worked their butts off. Guys like

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Teddy Bruski and the and Chuck Season, those guys who well, well he

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called she'son for a year, but
you know, who just worked their butts

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off, and maybe he's like,
Okay, they need to get their share.

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I think in that regard he'd be
happy about it. All the mechanics

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of it. I don't know,
it's hard to say, right. I

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know Louke probably would have hated it. Yeah, probably, I would lead

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him that way. Yeah, you
know he's probably okay, yeah, but

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you know, don't give him too
much exactly. You know, we still

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need them to work hard. Yeah. Yeah, and not that they wouldn't,

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but we don't know, partly because
you know, Luke was working with

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you know, had a different kind
of athlete, right, they had these

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elite basketball athletes. Yeah that and
he didn't have one hundred and five of

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them, you know, or eighty
five of them or whatever the number one.

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Sure, So yeah, it'll be
interesting to talk to Aboud, talk

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to him about basketball. He knows
Tommy Lloyd, so we'll go there too.

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Uh. And then and then we
got Tim Kish the same question.

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Yeah, same question with with with
Keish And you know, I think he's

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he has said he wouldn't like any
of this. But now it's kind of

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like, okay, the pain these
players, it looks like it's going to

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be in the hands of the athletic
departments as opposed to a kid going to

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an nil for an opportunity, not
but to a collective and saying, Okay,

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you know, sell some shirts for
me so I can make this money.

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Now you're talking about deciding who gets
money who doesn't. A coach doesn't

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want after you. Yeah, it's
so complicated. Now I'm older, now

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I get it. Pay him.
What do I care? But he can

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effect how good a team can be
because you're not paying this guy this,

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and he knows he can get paid
that there. He's gonna go there like

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you're doing now. Well, look
at you. You look at you.

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You came in into the office about
half hour ago, right and you asked,

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quo would you ask me if we
had talked? We talked about their

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house state quarterback and what was the
reason. Why would a guy like that

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and the and the Oklahoma guy leave
a place like Oklahoma or Ohio State for

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another girl, for another place unless
it's you hated the coach, didn't like

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playing there, or you're gonna get
a better opportunity. You're at Oklahoma and

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Ohio State. What kind of better
opportunity is there? Exactly? I mean,

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it's if it's not a bag.
It's inconceivable to me that you fulfill

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a lifelong dream probably be the starting
quarterback at Ohio State as a sophomore as

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a sophomore, and you say,
not good enough, I gotta go find

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something else. I mean, what
the hell is going on, Steve?

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I don't know. I think now
there's more opportunity to I think maybe I

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think we're seeing the true intentions of
these players now. I think if you,

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like Steve said, are going for
a bag versus going for on the

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field success. But I think we're
also seeing more and more players just trying

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to find the right fit with a
coaching staff. Right. So maybe if

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you don't think you have the highest
ceiling with with Ryan Day and the coaches

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at Ohio State, maybe you think
you could do better at Oregon with Dan

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Landing or whatever. I think you're
I think you see a lot of players

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looking for fit and the bag,
like you should should, but also you

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take the risk, take the risk
of trying to find a better fit.

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It turns out to be not a
better fit. The grass is not always

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right, well, not always well. Jet Fish, you know, talked

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about that yesterday saying, you know, guys, he said, if you're

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making the decision, are based on
money, money, right, You're you're

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probably making a bad decision or that's
not the way to make the decision.

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I'm curious, and I don't know
if this is public. It's probably not

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public, but how much did Singer
actually get I don't think anybody ever knew

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them, but they just assumed it
was Okay, let's assume for seconds a

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quarter of a million dollars. Was
that good enough? That will tell you

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what? Let me just say this, okay, let me let me just

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say you put two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars in the hands of a nineteen

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or twenty year old you put in
front of me, it's it's not life

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changing money, right, Yes,
it changes your life for now. But

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how fast are you going to go
through that? Because you're the big man

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on campus making six figures. How
you know you're gonna go buy a car,

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You're gonna go live in a fancy
apartment in LA You're gonna you know,

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you're gonna buy yourself you know,
some bling, and that stuff's gonna

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be gone, right, and then
you got what? Now I'm in a

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place. I'm not playing, I'm
not catching balls, I'm not getting the

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attention I need to get to the
NFL, and and I don't know that.

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I don't know how many nineteen twenty
twenty one year old are gonna think

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it through that far, like like
you and I are. Yeah, I'm

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taking the two fifty Well, you
know what I'm saying, no, because

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my thought is if I'm if I'm
Dorian Singer, Okay, and I don't

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think I've got a future in the
NFL. But I can go make the

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two fifty us. I'm gonna take
that because that's the most I'm gonna make

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playing football. Yeah, so you're
doing you're not thinking that? But does

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not he went there to get himself
into the NFL, right right? And

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who's who's the thing that he's not
gonna make it? Still? I mean

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and I say that, I say
that he'll be fine because he's good.

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Uh, and I saw opportunities,
but he might not. But but the

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funny thing about it yesterday and because
Jed did kind of throw a back door

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into this, well, we have
examples now. Either you want to touch

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to the guys who have transferred in
and see how they like it, and

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the guys have gone somewhere before you
start looking somewhere else. You know this

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girl, she's a good cook too. Why would you want to leave?

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Yeah? And I think today's point
when he was saying about nineteen and twenty

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year olds getting the bag and then
kind of blowing the bag away, we

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saw that in the NBA. In
the early days of the NBA, the

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too much, too soon era.
Yeah, where the guy the money blew

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up increased and all of a sudden
everybody was broke when they were retired.

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Yeah, kind of evens out after
after a little bit of time, Like

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the older guys kind of appreciate the
younger guys like, Hey, I made

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the same mistakes. I went to
UCLA and blow my money, right,

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don't do that. I think,
I think these these things will get ironed

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out with time. But right now
we're in the beginning, and it's a

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lot of mistakes being made right there. There are as it was in the

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NBA during that time, there are
guys in college getting money that they've never

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seen before. I could never imagine
that, and probably a lot of maturity

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to not screw that up. And
we've seen we've seen guys through, you

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know, in the in the NBA
get you know, NFL baseball, whatever,

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you know, made fifteen twenty million
dollars and they come out of there

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and they have none of it left. Yeah, people take it from them,

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they spend it. Any wide variety
of reasons as to why it's gone.

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It usually ends up gone. So
you just gotta be careful. You

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should not be careful, but you
know, let's see. I I but

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again I can. I'm just fascinated
by what's going on. Not fascinating,

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I'm like, I mean, it
bothers me. But on the other hand,

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it's kind of like, man,
this is what a time we're in.

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No, it's it's crazy, and
now it's all above board at a

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time before where it was wink wink, right under the table, under the

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table. Yeah yeah, and what's
to say it's not going on under the

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table still there's always something going on
to the table rights, And really it's

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probably a lot harder before you just
say, Okay, he's driving a harmer,

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he's getting something. Well, everybody's
got a hammer now. Yeah.

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Did you know we went to the
press covers last week? Did you go

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to the press comvers last week?
And did you walk? Were you parked

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this week? And I parked the
same area, so we were walking and

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did you see a big truck,
like a big truck on stilts or whatever.

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DJ Williams truck. It had to
be because it had Williams in the

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back and it was like a big
truck from somewhere else. Holy crap,

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this truck you could run over you
and you never know when you've got run

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over. You know, you're just
walking to hit you in the head.

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I mean, just these things are
do you see them? And before you

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say, oh, the guy's driving
that, you know, before you see

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this guy's driving that, you know, I go all the way back.

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I remember when Chris Mills got it
was a Too eighty Z which was just

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testing about a really fancy sports car
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he gets he gets here after that
whole Kentucky Kentucky incident with money falling out

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of a FedEx envelope, and he
gets here and he's driving the nice you

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know, one of the nicest cars
on campus. Yeah, you know,

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and then again remember h Lewis Holmes, you know, had ad when he

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got here, which was of course
money not gone to for the right reason

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exactly because somebody over paid for that
r look for the light because I just

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sent a phone number. But you
know, it's uh, it's it's just

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stunning to to see what we're in
the middle of now, and and god,

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you know, and it it it
keeps escalating as we go along.

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Well, you're talking about this before, and we'll get the call. Let's

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get this call. How you're on
the air and I on the ball.

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We're good, We're good. What's
up the Chris Mills? You know that

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fed X convelope that kind of somehow
got opened. But I think it's kind

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of like you guys are all saying, you know, we're in this this

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trial period where the biggest dogs are
going to win in n I L right,

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you think you would think that,
Yes, well you know, but

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I I kind of believe, and
I was talking with you guys as well

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as friends, like on the crease
of deal. You know, I I

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believe that Tommy had to come to
Jesus with him and said, you're you're

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really not going to be starting.
But but I can't. I can't.

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I don't so as a wildcat.
He's not a wildcat. He's not a

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wildcat for life. No way for
the kid and his family, go get

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it. No, you're you're you're
I mean, you're a hundred percent correct.

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It just changes everything. Guys are
guys are a while as long as

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they're making the money that they want
to make, right Yeah, I mean

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I add everybody but a bunch of
them, certainly, you know. Sure.

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My big my biggest concern would be
can we hang on to Tommy and

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just this right, that's that's what
I think, and I think that's what

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people want to see, right,
you know, because yeah, if if

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you trust the coaches, then if
they lose a player, because he's going

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to go make more money somewhere else, like these three guys who went to

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USC sure it didn't hurt him,
right, Well, you remember in the

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story of DIFFERENTCT if you remember,
and tell me you said this publicly,

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he's not you know, Okay,
they're here to get paid in I l

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but that's not the reason they're going
to come. He's not. He doesn't

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want those guys coming here just to
be paid. It's the basketball, right,

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the basketball. Well, yeah,
and look at Caleb Love. Look

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at Caleb Love. Tommy was very
succinct when he said, I told him,

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you know, you're not going to
score twenty five a game, but

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he's gonna make him a better player, you know. You know, he's

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been pretty much a dog on defense, don't you think doing. And he's

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giving the ball away too with the
cysts, which I can't jack up those

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three so so often. But I
always appreciate you that, well, thank

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you, thank you actually call you
know you're right, and you know,

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coaches are going to kind of hang
on to that, and you know,

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some coaches are going to make their
decisions based on this is want to be

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here. He's coming here for true
money. And if he's coming here for

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the money, then I'm not sure
that it wanted him to be here.

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No, exactly, exactly. You
don't want those guys anyway. Yeah,

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But the problem with that is some
of the very good ones or these guys,

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well no, no, but back
in the day they were either problem

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kids, the problem kids, and
then the coaches took him thinking I'll make

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were not good, right, players
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Sure? Okay, uh no,
good good first quarter here. We're going

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to talk to to mister Withers here
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to Iying the Ball here on Fox
Sports forteen fifty. I'm Steve, Roberta

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Pee jacins Awas. Now on the
phone, we have Bud Withers, longtime

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sports columnists in Seattle, author all
that good stuff you've been around, Bud,

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I hate to tell you that you've
been around. But better to be

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around than not around you, you
know. But we were talking about the

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fact that we were both pretty young
when we met you, and now we're

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both really old. So what does
that say. I'm old now and I

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was alda. They're trying to say, but you look great. I didn't

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say it that way, but yes, but you look great when you were

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younger. Older guy back then.
Hey, hey, so so you were

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around for a long time in the
pack eight PAC ten now PAC twelve.

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Who who would be going crazy in
the coaches you covered back in the day

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or remember from those days to say, here's the PAC twelve is gone,

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a PAC ten is gone and now
the kids are getting paid. Who would

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have freaked out? Oh my god? Well, you know, one of

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the one of the first guys I
could think of as Marv Harshman, you

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know, the old the old Washington
State going way back and then Washington coach

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into the eighties. Uh, you
know, Marv was definitely an old school

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guy. You know, a guy
like George Rampling, whom you guys know,

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well, you know George, George
at least thought of himself I think

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as as somebody with a lot of
old school values and and you know just

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I mean I remember, God,
I remember in I think nineteen eighty six

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when they implemented the three point shot, you know, the NCAA rules committee.

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I remember getting all the George and
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I mean, are they going to
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three points for degree of difficulty shots? And you know why do that?

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And you know, George is very
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course then you know a guy that
I covered for years at Oregon State,

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Ralph Miller. I mean, my
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things like the bounce pass. So, oh my god, I can only

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I can what you would think of
that? I l and that is nuts.

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you know, newer guys. You
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know, ten years. You can
you know that they that they would be

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hating this. And you know,
we're gonna talk to guys afternoon. Tim

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Kisher was an assistant here at Arizona, also at Oklahoma. I think we've

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had the conversation. He wouldn't hated
doing this. Andy Lopez has said he

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would have hated doing this. And
it's crazy that that you know what these

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coaches are dealing with right now?
Yeah, exactly, you know, And

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I think, Jay, what uh
What's always struck me about this, this

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kind of new new regime, this
new way of doing things, is that

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you know, the pro to me, the programs that are entrenched and well

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established have it that much easy year
now. I mean, I'm sure it's

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not a lot of fun to try
to not monitor all this stuff. But

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I mean, if you were trying
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the grassroots, uh, it would
be really difficult. Now, I would

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think, because you know, the
the programs that are that are winning and

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winning league titles and going to the
NCAA tournament, making deep deeper runs and

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so forth, they're naturally going to
be the the programs that you know,

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the enjoy the the fruits of of
what's going on. I mean, you

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look at a program like, you
know, the one that I'm really familiar

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with up here in Gonzaga, and
I mean, if if there's no way

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Gonzaga would have would have made you
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they did, you know, or
come up by the build themselves up by

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the bootstraps like like they did under
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it wouldn't have happened because they wouldn't
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through the transfer portal. True.
True, So you covered two schools up

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there to Oregon State and Washington State. Uh, and and now look they

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have no place to go except the
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were talking about the also rans.
They kind of are the also rans now

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by default bault no fault of their
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I mean they as you guys know, they just hooked up with with a

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deal with the Mountain West and both
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I believe, and and uh so
so now they're going to be playing a

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lot of Colorado State and Boise State
and and whatnot, and and uh you

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know it, it's really hard to
tell how it's going to work out.

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But you could make the case that
if you can stay afloat and and remain

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competitive, and you know, even
even beyond obviously you want to be more

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than competitive. You want to you
want to win, but you know you

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can. You can make the case
that if you could do well in that

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league and dominate it as much as
Boise State did there for for a good

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long stretch, a lot of good
things could come to you. But it's

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not necessarily going to be easy to
do that. I mean, you know,

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a school like San Diego States has
obviously a lot of population and geography

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and a lot of things going for
it that the Washington State doesn't have.

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Even though Washington State has been in
the in the PAC twelve, so you

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know, it could work out a
couple different ways. But I don't know

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that it's necessarily desperate. But it's
just just the associations that they had with

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the PAC twelve for all those years
and before that the PAC ten and eight.

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That's that's what's really kind of got
everybody, uh really with a sour

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taste in their mouth, you know. But you know, Steve and I

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are both a couple of you know, get off my lawn kind of guys

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in a lot of in a lot
of areas, you know, in particular,

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and stuff like this. You know, and there's probably, however,

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many million different opinions on this,
but you know, in your mind,

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is what's happening gonna end up?
You know, maybe at some point it's

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got to settle right where Okay,
now payers, players are getting paid,

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and this is how it works,
you know in I l whether it goes

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away or not, you know,
players are gonna get you know, coaches

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salaries or what they are. You
know, you're gonna have to you might

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have to, you know, cut
some cut some programs and cut some sports

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to pay for all this. When
the dust all settles, if it ever

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settles, Are we gonna end up
in a better place, a pretty good

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place, or worse place. What's
your opinion on that, Well, I

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think I think the way a lot
of people the way it's going is that

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we're going to be at some point
you're going to be just flat out paying

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paying athletes, and they're going to
be employees of the of the school,

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or maybe they'll be sort of like
an auxiliary wing of the school, so

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to speak. Uh. I mean, you could you could even have a

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situation where where guys aren't going to
class and stuff, but that they sort

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of represent the University of Arizona or
or Utah or whatever you know. Uh,

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but it's it's uh, I mean
to be able to say whether it's

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a good bead or whatever. You
know. The on one hand, the

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nil thing is is positive in the
we we've we've pretty much known for years

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and decades that that athletes somehow needed
to be needed to have some sort of

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it was you know, a small stipend

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for a month or whatever, or
or thousands of dollars out they're getting.

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Now. I mean, we we
knew there was there was some some basis

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for that. But uh, now
we now the stuff has come at us

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with with just such a rush that
it's uh, it's uh, it blows

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your mind and and and what what
what it really tells me is that Mark

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Emmert, when he was president,
was in the NCAA you know structure that

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the administration they were so held bent
on fighting the fighting athletes in court and

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stand firm, you know, when they

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could have been when they could have
been trying to come up with a reasonable

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structure for all this stuff and then
maybe implementing some guardrails for for ni L.

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But instead we you know, we
got none of that. And uh,

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it's it's just the classic Wild West. You were talking earlier about Oregon

410
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State and Washington State going into the
Mountain West. Let's throw this at you

411
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because we talk about this coint often
now with Arizona, Arizona State and you

412
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know the other schools going to the
Big Twelve. At least where we sit,

413
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that Arizona has a chance now to
possibly or a better chance now to

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win a conference title in football.
Before with USC and Oregon and Washington and

415
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some of these these tougher schools in
the way that almost made it impossible.

416
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Now in the Big Twelve, there's
a chance because even next year with Arizona

417
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coming, you know, playing fairly
well and doing well, there's a chance.

418
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Do you what do you see with
that? You know, basketball's basketball,

419
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because Arizona's basketball is not comparable to
Kansas but pretty close. Yeah,

420
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yeah, well, uh yeah,
I mean I think if you can obviously

421
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Jed Fish has done an unbelievable job
down there, and it's it's the old

422
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story at a school that's traditionally not
a power. If you can if you

423
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can keep that that coach around and
and uh and and and make him happy

424
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and and uh invest in in his
staff and so forth, I mean,

425
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you're going to have a chance,
definitely, And in that league I think,

426
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you know, especially with with Texas
and Oklahoma going off to the SEC

427
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and so yeah. I mean now, now the other thing you've always got

428
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:29.039
to deal with, at least until
Kyle Whittingham is there as Utah. I

429
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:34.079
mean, the the job, the
job he's done is is uh beyond belief

430
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:40.160
really from from where they were when
when they entered the Pac twelve back in

431
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twenty eleven, so uh yeah,
but I mean and and and in that

432
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:52.000
regard, you know, if if
if Arizona can can can keep fish and

433
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:56.079
keep building and growing and whatnot,
I mean, yeah, you could,

434
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:02.039
you could, you could win that
league. And and and with a new

435
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:06.599
twelve team playoffs, I mean that
Arizona fans could get pretty excited about all

436
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:10.359
this stuff. So so let me
let's go to the Oregon, well to

437
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specifically to Oregon and going to the
Big Ten, because you know, there's

438
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a you know, the Big Ten
has this reputation like it's a great conference,

439
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:21.359
but really what it is it's Michigan
and Iowa State, a little throw

440
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:23.039
a little Penn State in there maybe
once a while in Wisconsin. Where do

441
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.920
you think Oregon falls, particularly to
Oregon, and then maybe even USC and

442
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:32.880
Washington are going to fall in the
hierarchy of of football over there? You

443
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:37.279
know, do do Ohio State and
Michigan get exposed a little bit for the

444
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.000
fact that they're con they haven't had
to do you know, they both get

445
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.720
to the end of season undefeated because
the rest of the league sucks, or

446
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:48.160
you know, do Oregon, Washington
and the USC get exposed a little bit

447
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.599
because when they go to the Big
Ten and now maybe they're not as physical

448
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:53.880
or whatever, you know, because
the whole reputation of being you know,

449
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:59.119
finesse teams and stuff like that.
Which where do you where's your mind on

450
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:04.279
that? It's gonna be really interesting, Jay. I think I think the

451
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:08.839
travel is gonna is going to be
a big deal both both ways. I

452
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:12.160
mean, I think what you're going
to see is I agree with you that

453
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:18.480
that. I think I think the
Big Ten is largely a bunch of fluff.

454
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:25.039
The majority of those current whatever whatever
it is fourteen teams now you know,

455
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:30.480
I mean the Purdues in Indiana's Rutgers
and Marylands and whatnot. I but

456
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:36.359
I think I think those teams kind
of a bunch of those that I named,

457
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:42.759
I think they'll give schools like an
Oregon or Washington problems when when the

458
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:48.279
when Oregon or Washington has to to
travel twenty five hundred miles to go play

459
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.119
them. And by the same token, I think, you know, I

460
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:57.160
think that the schools out here,
the four that are the four that are

461
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:02.400
going uh. I'm mean, I
think if you're playing one of those real

462
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:07.119
heavyweights, the you know, the
Michigan or Ohio State or Penn State,

463
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:08.319
and you've got to go back there, I think, I mean, it's

464
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:13.599
gonna be a pretty decisive edge,
I think, both in style of play

465
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:16.799
and and travel and whatnot. But
but on the other end, you know,

466
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:21.880
those those schools got to come out
here, and uh, you know,

467
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:28.200
Washington is a pretty good track record
of of bothering uh big ten schools

468
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:31.000
like like a Michigan that come out
here to play. So it's gonna be

469
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:35.359
interesting to see how it works out. And of course, the the real

470
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.200
thing that nobody has done a very
good job of explaining it is how all

471
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:45.440
the non revenue sports are going to
deal with with with all that travel and

472
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:49.160
stuff. You know, how does
the how does the women's volleyball team uh

473
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:53.279
manage? And you know, how
does uh how does the basketball teams do?

474
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:58.160
I mean, just logistically, do
you you go back there for a

475
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:02.599
for like a three school road trip. You know, maybe you're gone a

476
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:07.720
week and you play you know,
Minnesota, Purdue and Wisconsin in in a

477
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:12.359
week. I don't know that that's
that's to be determined, but that's going

478
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.000
to take a real toll. So
let's talk real quick about a couple of

479
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:19.440
minutes. We have about basketball.
Men's basketball, Arizona finds himself at number

480
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.400
one. Uh, your thoughts on
Tommy. I know we talked a little

481
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.759
about Tommy last time you were on. But probably no surprise to you that

482
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:30.279
he has this team doing well.
Yeah, absolutely not, Steve. You

483
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:35.960
know, he he's a guy that, as you guys have probably seen,

484
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:40.359
he's got enough connections that he can
he can recruit and he can be an

485
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:46.599
effective recruiter. And at the same
time, I think he he he's a

486
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:52.720
he's a darn good coach. So
I mean, that's that's that's the two

487
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.279
things you got to have. Now, I'm sure there were rough edges and

488
00:33:55.359 --> 00:34:00.440
whatnot when he when he in the
first couple of years when he took over.

489
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:04.720
I guess not the least of it
is losing losing to Princeton and last

490
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:09.519
spring in the NCAA tournament. But
you know, that stuff that happens to

491
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:13.440
the best of them. I mean
it happened. It happened to coach k

492
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:16.280
a couple of times, and in
the NCAA tournament over the years, you

493
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:22.079
know, losing to like a fourteen
or fifteen seed. So yeah, I

494
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:27.960
guess I am surprised that they that
they've risen to number one so quickly.

495
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.760
But god, you go back to
Duke and uh and get a win back

496
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:35.079
there and then you know, take
care of business with with the rest of

497
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.559
them, like against Michigan State,
and you've you've certainly earned it. So

498
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:44.760
they're they're gonna, they're gonna bear
watching, no doubt as a as A

499
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:50.159
as A championship contender this year.
Yeah, okay, but thanks a bunch

500
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:53.880
for joining us. Appreciate you absolutely, guys anytime have a good one down

501
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.639
here. Try not to wear yourself
out in retirement over there. But I

502
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.199
know it's I know it's kind of
tough. Maybe just one last ten second,

503
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:04.840
twelve second. We won't even get
into the suction committee situation. But

504
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:09.639
who's gonna win the title? The
and the football you're talking about? Yes,

505
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:15.559
uh, god, I suppose,
I suppose I cast my lot with

506
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:20.920
Alabama just just because of the coach. But who knows. I mean,

507
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:24.480
Washington keeps surprising people, so until
they get beat, they got a shot.

508
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:28.639
Nobody seems to be able to beat
them, right right right? Okay,

509
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:31.360
thanks bad thanks bud. Okay,
guys, Yeah, yeah, you

510
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:35.239
know he makes a point. Is
the same your point. You like Washington.

511
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:39.239
I like Alabama because Alabama with time
is pretty down good. And yeah

512
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:43.440
and they I mean they're You can
argue that they've got the best players.

513
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:46.079
Yeah, yeah, physical can do
a lot of things. All right,

514
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:47.960
man, let's take our break.
When to come back, we'll take your

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Steve Rivera and Jacin Salvis this Eye
on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteenth.

558
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Hey, welcome back to Winning the
Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty on

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Steve. He's Jay got Kevin with
us today fifteen minutes. If you want

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to give us a call five two
o four one six seventy four forty.

561
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We'd love to hear from you.
What's going on football, basketball? In

562
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:21.159
interesting stuff from Bud, you know, just talking about those coaches that would

563
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:23.599
have just lost them and he's right, I mean those are really old school

564
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:25.840
dudes. Those are really older school. But that's what I'm saying. There's

565
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:30.239
some newer school guys who also,
would you know, losing their minds.

566
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.880
Well, well, you're right.
You mentioned we've talked about a thousand times

567
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:38.079
with Kendrea and and you know that
uh uh Rubio left for one of these

568
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:42.440
reasons, Andy Lopez. Yeah,
they just you know, I'll hate that.

569
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:44.960
Hey, tag, you're it man. You go to a guy like

570
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.719
Mike Stoops, right, who didn't
like a lot of the head coaching stuff.

571
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.199
Anyway, then you pott this stuff
on top of all that, right,

572
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:54.239
well, you fish, I think
I think you you were there,

573
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:58.159
so I think I'm correct. So
he is, I got to do all

574
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.400
these things, right, recruit,
blah blah blah, hic. He didn't

575
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.760
say say shake hands, key spaces. But he's chasing down money for his

576
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:06.559
place, right, you know he's
he's not just the coach, right,

577
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:07.320
And then he says, and by
the way, I have to come up

578
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:12.280
with plays. Yeah, at the
same time to beat Oklahoma, I have

579
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.119
a game plan. I think he
does get paid pretty well though to do

580
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:21.239
yeah, I mean things, making
enough money to handle it, to do

581
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:23.679
a lot. The truth is that
the market is such things. Oh yeah,

582
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:27.079
he's one of the lower paid coaches
around, right. Well, that's

583
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.000
the whole thing, Jay, It's
it's we've we we talked during COVID.

584
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:34.639
Okay, they're gonna be in defenitives, right and maybe not too except they're

585
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.599
in. But they were forty five
million dollars in debt right at the time

586
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:39.119
when they got out of it or
whatever. Uh, and you're thinking,

587
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:43.440
are they gonna make this up or
whatever? And then then you got to

588
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:45.320
pay the coaches, where's that gonna
come from? Now? The players,

589
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:49.360
where is that going to come from? Where's this money coming from? Well,

590
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:51.320
and that that's the thing, you
know. Uh, you know one

591
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:52.440
of the one of the podcasts I
was listening, they're saying, Okay,

592
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:55.480
they're talking about how they they're gonna
have to come up with all this money

593
00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:00.559
to pay players and do all these
things. But you know, coaches salaries

594
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:04.960
aren't going to drive exactly right.
They're not going to stop building facilities,

595
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.920
right, you know, they're going
to keep doing all these spending all this

596
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:12.280
money that they've been spending. So
where what are they gonna go get new

597
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.519
money? Where's the new money?
Right? Well, you were talking this

598
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.480
before we started, Kevin with the
facilities. Yeah, we were talking about

599
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:21.760
how every new facility, it seems
like almost any school, no matter what

600
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.719
they're standing is within their sport,
is getting a brand new facility that's two

601
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:29.400
hundred and fifty plus million dollars with
all the new all the new technology and

602
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:30.719
all this new stuff. Because you're
trying to keep up with the Joneses,

603
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:34.719
right, yeah, because these guys
that then you got to pay them a

604
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:37.840
whole bunch of money too, well
mention that once you talked about yeah,

605
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.559
it was it was it was USF
that had like three hundred and forty million

606
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:45.559
dollar facility coming in northwesterns is like
up, you were talking to the Clipper.

607
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:50.280
Yeah, the Clippers has uh what
was it in the billions of dollars

608
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:53.440
you were talking in Northwestern? Yeah
about Northwestern USF for college football. But

609
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:57.519
yeah, there's just a lot of
money being flushed into these new facilities for

610
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.719
teams that may not be able to
fill up these these Uh do people not

611
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:04.519
nowhere in almost the recess whatever we
are. We're not in a recession,

612
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:08.519
but we're in something actively. I
don't think they know. And it seems

613
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:13.800
like it seemed like hob athlete Athletics
doesn't really care. No, they don't

614
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:16.199
care. They don't care. And
it's no, it's tough, it's it's

615
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:21.119
it's it's it's keeping up with the
Joneses because you have to have people coming

616
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:24.360
in to attend your school and be
part of it. Yeah, no,

617
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:30.559
yeah, I mean it's uh,
could you could you imagine and you're I'm

618
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.239
talking you could talk to me about
when it was like in the seventies and

619
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.039
he went to school at you a, Okay, I showed up here in

620
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.199
eighty five. I was, you
know this this small town dude covering from

621
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:45.440
New Mexico just to visit Arizona Ducson, and I thought the campus was fantastic.

622
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:47.920
They had just done revenging the nerds. You're kind of just saying,

623
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:52.000
wow, this is pretty cool.
Uh, but you know the attractions on

624
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:54.599
the campus blah blah blah. And
then this is not the campus I remember

625
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:59.000
from then. How about the campus
that you saw back then? Oh?

626
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:01.480
Well, you know it's funny say
that because we were on it on Sunday

627
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:06.679
taking going to my daughter's graduation pictures
and we're walking, we're walking around the

628
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:07.119
campus. I'm like, yeah,
I went, you know, I had

629
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:12.840
classes in this bien lamplight wa waiting. That building wasn't there, but I

630
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.400
don't know what was there, right, And it's one right on the mall.

631
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:21.119
It's between it's over by kind of
uh west of bear Down, And

632
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:22.880
I'm like, I know that building
wasn't here, but I couldn't tell you

633
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:28.719
what was there. And then it
was with the photographer Arise, you know

634
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:30.599
Fred, he said that was a
parking lot, and you know they then

635
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:34.719
now they're just building that that's there, you know the campus. Yeah,

636
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.119
it's it's totally incredibly different, right, well, look at just the housing.

637
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.599
The housing. Yeah it was oh
that whole corner parking, parking,

638
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:45.920
speedway was crazy. But but it's
it is so diff you know, there's

639
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:49.480
so many it's filled in so much, and it doesn't even look like our

640
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:52.119
campus. I mean in every couple
of years. I mean even as someone

641
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.079
who's actively going to the school.
I was walking out of the library with

642
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:57.880
my friends the other day and he
was like, where are we on campus

643
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.880
right now? Because he was standing
in the new Students Success District, which

644
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:04.039
is attached to the library. It
has a big over arching thing. Maybe

645
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.199
it just confused because no one ever
goes to the library. I saw that

646
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:12.239
sign. I said that this used
to be the student place to hide district.

647
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.559
But you know, that's literally what
I told him. He was like,

648
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:16.440
this is a new area, and
I was like, yeah. The

649
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:22.440
money that's being you know, invested
into the campus is year after year just

650
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.840
crazier. And again because like athletics, the you know, the university as

651
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:30.000
a whole is out there having to
compete sure, you know, to get

652
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:35.559
students and what's and what's the front
porch of the university. Sorry to say,

653
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:37.519
but it's athletics. There's going to
be number one. I'm sure helps

654
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.159
a lot. There was on this
football program that I was fourteen, but

655
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:44.199
you would have I mean, I
don't know if you actually did those stories,

656
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:46.079
but there were a bunch of stories
that came out after the ninety seven

657
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:52.480
National championship about how enrollment, yeah
or changed and how more people were you

658
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:54.679
know, we're applying to come to
the u of A because of that.

659
00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:59.199
That's that's why I'm here and not
some other place where with less of a

660
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:01.679
history of of success in sports,
because I like, obviously I want to

661
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:04.880
do sports journalism the whole thing.
But you don't want to go to a

662
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:07.039
school that has no history of sports. You want to go to sport that

663
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:09.880
has a rich history and you have
a chance to be a part of history

664
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:13.320
in the making the success. Yeah, so of the time, because you've

665
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.559
been here four years, five years, whatever years of the basketball games of

666
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:21.760
football games, and I'm assuming those
are the primary sports, primary and baseball

667
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:24.440
year, ninety percent of the games
you've attended or how many what's some percentage?

668
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:28.719
Basketball is really high I don't miss
a lot of home basketball games football.

669
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.039
We talked about this throughout the season. They didn't. They weren't really

670
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:35.440
giving fans a reason to show up
for a long time. So I would

671
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.360
say like once the Jetfish era started, there was a little bit of uncertainty

672
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.199
of like, Okay, who is
this guy? What's going on? But

673
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:45.679
in my opinion, once he started
showing us reasons that indicators of improvement,

674
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.360
I was I was more willing to
go to these games. But you're you

675
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:55.000
are exactly exactly the UA fan,
not today, many years ago and today

676
00:45:55.719 --> 00:46:00.079
because that's it. Well let's see, well, let's see Jay, Yeah,

677
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:04.400
that's there's so many people waiting to
see. It's gonna be interesting to

678
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:07.119
see, you know when you see
what you know. Bobby Robbins said that,

679
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:09.079
you know, ticket prices are gonna
go up twenty five percent, Well,

680
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:13.079
how many people are gonna say,
well, I'm not throwing another twenty

681
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.519
five percent? Correctly, No,
I am, no matter how good,

682
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:17.000
no matter how good they are,
right I am. Yeah, But I

683
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:21.000
know that that there's gonna be a
you know, where's the you know,

684
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:23.360
where's the balance that you have there? How many people are you gonna lose

685
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:25.880
versus how many people are gonna stay
with Well, let me ask you.

686
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:29.199
And I don't know if this well, I know, I go to the

687
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:32.280
detailgates. I don't think that's an
indication of the people in the building though,

688
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.360
how many how many normal people are
in that building, in the in

689
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.480
the stadium football? Yeah, does
that make sense? Normal people are kind

690
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:44.239
of like me and you and and
you know what I'm saying, not the

691
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:46.480
corporate people, not the people that
oh, I mean that the average thing,

692
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:51.440
Joe, the Joe's Yeah, yeah, well sitting where we said,

693
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:52.639
it's most of them. But you
know, but you know what I'm saying,

694
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:58.280
Yeah, it's not a cheap ticket. No, it's not a cheap

695
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:01.239
ticket, but it's it's it hasn't
price itself out yet. But I think

696
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:07.000
that uh, you know, nobody
likes to see prices go up, all

697
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:08.320
right, for for anything. And
you're gonna say, well, you know,

698
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:12.880
we need this to you know,
in particularly in the u of a

699
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:15.000
situation, people are saying, you
guys, screwed this up, and why

700
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:19.519
are we paying? I was gonna
go there, right, but there's no

701
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.440
other way. I don't think.
I don't know there isn't. I mean,

702
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:24.960
they're gonna have to be that.
And and so you know, somebody

703
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:28.119
like me is gonna say, Okay, you know, I'll do my part

704
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:30.400
of this, but you'll put but
part of it too is you know put

705
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.199
I went to school there, put
my kids through school there. I'm supporting

706
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:35.920
this. Snow, you have some
skin in the game. I do have

707
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:37.480
a lot of skin in the game, more skin than you would ever know.

708
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:45.360
But yes, I don't want to
know. Uh, but you know,

709
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:47.960
well, and you're gonna be a
grad eventually. And will you come

710
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:51.800
back, will you spend money giving
back? Well, I mean you could

711
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:55.039
easily say yes now, but yeah, I think so. I mean in

712
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:59.599
terms of like what Jay's talking about
with the football program, I'm not the

713
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:01.760
biggest football dude. I like,
I enjoy football. Basketball is my thing,

714
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:05.159
right, So if if we're going
to say that, I think for

715
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:07.840
me, the basketball program, like
I I will be there for one and

716
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.960
whatever you'll pay, you pay,
you'll pay for basketball doesn't matter to me.

717
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:13.519
But you're not going to do it
for football. Yea, as long

718
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.920
as we have someone on the on
at the end of the bench that I

719
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:17.679
believe can lead us to success.
And I'm not going to watch a clown

720
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:21.719
show. Let's go to that game, right, And that's that's where I'm

721
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:23.760
at with Jed. Jed is a
good coach, and I believe in Jed,

722
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:28.199
so I will support the team.
But I you know, you know

723
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:30.000
how we don't have a lot of
time to waste these days, you know

724
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.119
you don't. And that's the other
thing you don't. And then that that's

725
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:36.000
why you you know, you hire
and fire, you know, Kevin someone

726
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:38.440
him in three years and send him
off with seven million dollars in his his

727
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:44.000
pocket or Jimbo Fisher with seventy seven
million dollars in his pocket. And right,

728
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:46.599
you know, well, I think
that that he said the best.

729
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:51.920
We can't we can't afford not to
fire him, right because it would continue

730
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:57.360
the same rule would be today if
they don't fire him on that day exactly

731
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:06.199
exactly fifty six to zero. Yeah, that still hurts. It hurts.

732
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:09.719
Well, here we are you guess
doing? Okay? Are we talk about

733
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:14.039
this this era being a lot like
the mid nineties when it was very very

734
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:17.360
good. They're number one in the
country and they're number fourteen in football.

735
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:22.000
All you needed for a kind of
tra effect. That would be the the

736
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.480
women's basketball team to kind of pick
it up a little bit, maybe the

737
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:28.960
baseball team to reach the church.
Yeah, and the stopball to come back.

738
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:30.840
Yeah yeah, and then you're back
to be all those things are good.

739
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:35.079
That everybody's happy in this town.
Yeah. And I guess what the

740
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:39.960
wallet or the purse exactly just yeah, well whatever whatever it can be.

741
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:45.639
You know mine has dusted it.
So that's a fatogly wald. I don't

742
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:52.000
know where you keep that problems?
Do you guys? Do you guys think

743
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:59.000
that the fans football fans specifically,
uh next year with the ticket price increase,

744
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:00.639
do you think we'll see like some
their attendance or do you think the

745
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:05.880
intendants will increase despite the ticket increase
take a price football or basketball football.

746
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:09.559
I don't know. I think more
people will come, I do. I.

747
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:13.760
Part of it's gonna be, you
know, you know, can you

748
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:16.000
still get It's it's gonna be about
getting the ticket in your price. Do

749
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:19.840
we know the schedule for next year
with the with the back we know who

750
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.920
they play, okay, but we
don't know where. We know well,

751
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:23.960
well, you know we know who
they're playing where, we just don't know

752
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:29.239
what days okay, but what does
the schedule look like at home? Were

753
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:32.000
in the Big Twelve? We got
to cut one. Yeah, so we'll

754
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:35.320
say right now, would you go
to the game? I gotta be the

755
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:37.880
game. Yeah yeah, and we'll
kind of just kind of see maybe some

756
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:42.320
college will call in at the other
hour. Would you go to this game?

757
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.960
Yeah? Okay, let me see
if I if we have it here,

758
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:52.639
uh okay. Arizona's Big Twelve schedule
home games next year are as U

759
00:50:52.880 --> 00:51:00.000
Colorado, Texas Tech, Houston,
West Virginia. Mm hmm. People will

760
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:02.679
comes to that Colorado game because if
you're gonna you're gonna say that. But

761
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:08.320
you gotta understand Washington, Washington,
Oregon and USC and U s l A

762
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:12.079
aren't in the conference. No,
no, don't tell me. I know,

763
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:14.079
I get it, all right,
get it or not? We take

764
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:17.000
no, no, we can't take
that. Call us on the other side.

765
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:20.840
So that's it. That's it.
That's it. That that fashion show

766
00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:24.880
is not very good. It'll be
different. And and I think to me,

767
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:29.599
the attraction of this is the difference. I mean, the Arizona can

768
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.639
win all those games and maybe win
a championship and and and get into the

769
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:37.239
playoffs. Go down the line of
we don't know when the time, give

770
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:42.039
me the schedule, talk to about
first game, second game is no,

771
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.880
no, it's they're just listed.
Who we play? Give me Arizona play

772
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:51.000
go slowly again? West Virginia Okay, West Virginia, Houston Okay, Texas

773
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:55.599
Tech Okay, Colorado Okay, come
on, don't Colorado? And in the

774
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:59.679
issue the other games, what are
you doing? But you know on the

775
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.639
on the road, you've got b
y u Utah TCU in Central Florida.

776
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:07.760
When you flip that over in b
y u Utah and TCU come here,

777
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:10.559
that's a little more attractive skit.
It is, but it's it will depend

778
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:14.199
on you're going. You going,
well, I go next next year.

779
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:16.079
We'll just give the the what you
switch? You know now, I know

780
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:19.199
you won't be here, but no, yeah, I did want to see

781
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:22.360
this. It'll be news, Steve, It'll be new that's I think that's

782
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.880
now, that's what the newness where
you're true? Right, Okay, let's

783
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:29.599
take our break. We got top
of the hour. Uh, Kevin,

784
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:32.039
wake back here with some breaking news
and we'll we'll cover all that. Lots

785
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:35.880
of stuff again, big stuff in
the n C double a let's stick around