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Welcome to by Nightcap, the limited
edition All Star Edition Garry Jeff Walker,

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sitting down with Gift Tuesday Night live
here on the Big one, seven hundred

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WLW, of course, bringing you
the All Star Game tonight. And you

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know this is really a special week. The biggest stars, the heaviest hitters,

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making the strongest pitches, all gathered
in one place. And that's just

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Milwaukee at the Republican National Convention in
Arlington, Texas. As you just heard

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the American League prevailing once again as
they've done so many times in the recent

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pass of five to three victory over
the National League. And yes, Cincinnati

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Reds prominently involved in the outcome.
Some good, some not so good.

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Here to talk about this with me
tonight. And by the way, I

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do have a guest this half hour, but you're welcome to be a guest

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as well if you'd like to join
in the conversation. At five one three

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seven for nine seven thousand, a
guy who was a member of the original

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rail Gang, remember the rail Gang
back at Riverfront Stadium. I don't know

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if he does, we'll ask him
here in a minute, but one of

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the people he was like the leader
of these guys is our first and perhaps

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only guest, unless you want to
chime in and add into anything that we

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are talking about. In the aftermath
of the Midsummer Classic, the one and

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only wild Man Walker joins us.
Hello wild Man, Hello Gary, Jeff.

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How you doing. I'm fine,
man, It's it's late. I'm

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up past my bedtime most of the
night. Oh, I'll be up to

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at least three o'clock because Leave It
the Beaver comes on it too, So

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make sure I get to watch that. So so you actually set your schedules

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so you can watch Leave It to
Beaver in the middle of the night.

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Well, I'm a night out anyway, but I know, you know.

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Well, the good thing is it
used to be on at three and they

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moved it to two, so hey, I save it. I had to

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picking up an extra hour of sleeps
to watch that when I was a kid

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at three o'clock in the afternoon.
Oh, it's still great. It's still

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a great show, it really is. Who's your favorite? You like Wally,

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you like Whitey, You like Eddie
Haskell. You seem like you'd be

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an Eddie Haskell guy. I'm an
Eddie Haskell guy all the way, all

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the way that's a nice dress.
Gilbert, Gilbert, Gilbert and Gilbert and

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Richard were two little pumps who always
got Beaver in trouble. The same thing

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with Larry, But Larry was written
out of the show because of his mother.

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His mother was real demanding and stuff. That's why they wrote him out

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of the show. You know,
I should ask our producer, the person

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who was actually controlling things. We're
just filling time, but our producer's controlling

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things in the booth. Kenzie,
if she even knows what Leave It to

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Beaver is okay? Thank you.
Leave It to Beaver was a sitcom back

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in the early sixties, probably before
your parents were born. When were your

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parents born? Did you hear that, wild Man, No, I didn't

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hear that. Oh she's telling me
in my ear. She doesn't know Lever

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to Beaver and her dad was born
in nineteen eighty her mom was born in

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nineteen eighty two. Tell her to
google it up. She can watch it

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on her she can watch episodes on
her phone. I think it'd be very

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edifying for anyone who was not exposed
to the Cleaver family in America that you

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and I remember. But Kenzie would
never know about and well, the writing

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in the show was tremendous. It
was tremendous writing. Well, yeah,

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I'm trying to think back to the
last time I saw a rerun. But

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the situations in the writing were a
certain place and time America, in a

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certain place in time in America,
I think the All Star Game had more.

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Maybe if someone out writing could be
used today to make this country better.

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Well, I mean they're writing new
scripts in Milwaukee right now as we

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speak at the publican national convention to
make America great again. But anyway,

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let's tale. Let's talk about the
game. That's what we're here for this

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half hour, and I invite anybody
to chime in with our opinions of what

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we got, a whole list of
list. I know you do, That's

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why I ask you to be a
guest. So let's talk first about the

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two Reds that made appearances tonight,
one in a positive way, one in

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not such a positive way. And
let's start with the bad news first.

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The bad news first is that Hunter
Green, coming on in relief, gets

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the l because he gives up a
two run shot, the game winning home

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run after the National League gets stay
make themselves a three to nothing lead.

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American League Claws back as you knew
they would, especially playing in a home

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park for the American League. They're
in Texas, and Hunter Green comes in

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and he does what we've seen him
do so many times over the course of

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his career. Now he can be
a dominating pitcher. There's no doubt that

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he has amazing stuff. He has
an incredible heater, but he does give

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up the long ball quite a bit. And that's the trade off you make

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with a Hunter Green. You can't
say that they didn't give him run support,

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because he's had virtually none this year
with the Reds, even in great

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pitching performances. But he comes in
and he gives up the you know,

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the the neck breaker that winds up
being the backbreaker for the National League.

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Your thoughts well, Hunter Green two
hits two runs, one of mos At

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home runs, which wasn't the difference. The guy that hit the home run

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off of him won m v P
honors. He was lucky, Garry Cheff

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that he didn't give up two home
runs because Corey Seeger took him right to

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the base of the wall. Yeah, that could have been two home runs

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for s for Li de la Cruz, Hey first time up, he gets

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a single second time up, he
grounded out. They put him at third

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base tonight. That's right, they
played put him at third base. He

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had one ball hit to him,
he fielded it flawlessly, and uh,

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you know, there you go.
But you got you gotta admit, and

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I think anybody listening has got to
admit. When he got on base that

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first time up, Okay, he's
on base, man, let's see some

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de la Cruz magic. But I
guess in that situation, he didn't really

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have a chance to, uh swipe
another bag. But I was hoping every

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I was hoping he was gonna,
you know, swipe a second too.

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Yeah, stranded at second. That's
that's your first thought. When La de

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la Cruz gets on base in any
game, it's like, okay, let's

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watch the fireworks. And sadly,
we didn't see any tonight out of La.

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But again, in his first Major
League All Star Game, he's been

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in the league a little over a
year and he's already an All Star.

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He's batten two fifty six or two
fifty three on the season. He's got

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fifteen home runs forty six stolen bases. The last player to have those kind

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of breaks at the All Star Game
and home runs in stolen bases was Ricky

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Henderson. So we're talking about a
Hall of Famer there in Henderson and La

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de la Cruz a little early start
comparing to Ricky. I'm just silly.

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Ricky Henderson is the only other player
to do that by the All Star Game.

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And that's what I'm saying. No, I'm not saying La de la

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Cruz is a Hall of Famer.
I'm just saying there's all. There's all

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kind of wacky statue can pull out. You know, they've been pulling out

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left and right, especially with you
know, the the the Hindes guy that

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they brought up and you know somebody
that hasn't done that since nineteen hundred.

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Bottom line is it comes down to
wins and losses. You know, they

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can have all the home runs they
want and score all the runs they wanted,

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they don't win games. Those stats
to meet don't mean DULEE squad,

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They really don't. Other thoughts on
that, how about uh well, how

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about how about Otani? How about
show well, the the baseball fans got

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to see two of the best players
produce. Otani with that three run homer

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and then uh Soto with with the
Yankees coming up with that doubles, so

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two of the bigger stars produced.
Fans got their moneys, weren't there.

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The American League continues to be the
daddy of the National League. Now Kenneth

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won and their last eleven All Star
Games. Okay, but here it was,

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it was it was an okay game. Gear it wasn't it wasn't you

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know, it wasn't that great.
But the thing was those uniforms and the

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caps that the players had to wear. Those were hideous. Those were hideous.

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I can't believe that I remember.
And and again maybe I'm sounding like,

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you know, mister old school guy, which I guess I am to

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a certain extent. But I loved
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team, whether it's road or away. You you wore the if you're the

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if you're the visiting team in the
All Star Game, you wear your your

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road uniform of your team. And
uh then if you're the home team,

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you wear your home uniform of your
specific ball club. You couldn't give me

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it. You couldn't give me one
of those jerseys or a cap to wear

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for free. I wouldn't. Those
were just awful, a god awful,

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and exactly I want to see La
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Reds uniforms and drop Manfred already came
out this. I saw this about an

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hour ago, that they're going to
address that issue next year to go back

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to the uniforms, like duh,
duh. Well, you know the fans.

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The fans want that they look like
softball or uniforms. Man, I

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didn't know what they were when I
I first saw them. I'm going,

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oh, okay, they've got their
home they've got their home logo on their

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caps. At least that kind of
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If you didn't know, as you
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in right with a casual fan,
exactly do you? And major League Baseball

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can't you get out of its own
way? They really can't. I mean,

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especially after what happened yesterday, which
I want to talk about. Why

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don't you want to talk You do
want to talk about her? You don't?

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Oh yeah, well yeah, major
League Baseball? Yeah, what for

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what happened yesterday at the home run
derby? Okay, well tell me about

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it. I did not want to
call. That's so called country singer that

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sang the national anthem. I mean, she had every dog in Arlington,

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Texas howling. And then she came
out and said, well, I was

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drunk. Yeah, you were drunk, all right. She had BedHead on

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top of that. And then now
she comes out and says, I'm drunk

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and I'm going to go into rehab. I hear rehab is is, uh

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is good? But she's making a
joke about it. I'm so I'm not

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I'm not accepting her apology. It
was a disgrace. Whoever let her on

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the field should they should be fired. Whoever hired her should be fired.

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I mean, if she's got people
around her, supposedly because she's a two

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time Grammy nominee or whatnot. I
mean, didn't her people see her that

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she was liquored up and they let
her go out there and so called sing

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the national anthem. It was a
freaking disgrace, man, It really was

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the freaking disgrace. And I'm not
buying her apology. I'm sorry, I'm

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not buying it. I'd never even
heard of Ingrid Andress exactly before exactly uh

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and see, I don't know,
would would you rather had Roseanne bar Well,

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I was at San Diego with Roseanne
bar anthem. You were there.

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I was there when she and grabbed
her crotch and that. Yeah. Oh,

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I was out in the concession area. I was just waiting for the

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national anthem to be over, and
I went up to my press box seeks

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because I was on the road trip
of the Reds that year and I went

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out there for the road trip.
I thought I was booing that. I

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was yelling at the TV and these
old ladies are walking by, you know.

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I was yelling of sentitings at the
TV because it was just it was

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a freaking joke. And the spin
Gary, the spin that Padres pr department

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tried to put on that after she
did that was hilarious. It was the

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lamest excuse that they could come up
with. They had nothing to say,

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Well, this is just so bad
this woman. Now, it was so

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embarrassing that the first story I see
pop up says she is entering rehab.

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Right, one bad performance and you
got to go sober up Somewhere that year,

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I was I was drunk, I'm
just sorry whatever, whatever, And

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like I said, if you look
at the if you go online, look

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at her singing she's got BedHead to
top it off and go out to wash

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her hair. I want what she
went out onto the field. I want

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to ask you an honest question,
wild man, and whoever gave her the

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damn microphone should be fired because they
should have seen something coming. I went,

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I put a stop to it.
I want to ask you an honest

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question. What's that? And I
expect an honest answer. Okay, have

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you ever been somewhere to perform and
been too drunk to be there, but

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you went out and did it anyway? God, I don't know. No,

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I don't have to think about it. I can tell you right now,

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this second. It's happened to me. I have been too messed up

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to be in public and still got
up and spoke. It's been a long

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time. It was very embarrassing,
but I didn't instantly go into rehab,

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So that's really tumultuous. That must
have been more terrible than you're even describing.

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I did not see it. I
don't really Usually I pay attention to

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the national anthem at the end of
this show. Tonight we'll have the national

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anthem play. We always end with
the Star Spangled ban Around now the guy,

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Yeah, the guy that's sank the
national anthem tonight. I didn't catch

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his name. He did a perfect
job, perfect job. And that's the

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way it should be. They shouldn't. We shouldn't really be talking at it.

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But when you have something like this, this two time Grammy Award winner

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go out there and you know,
she had to rehearse the song because they

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always rehearsed the song before they opened
the gates. Now, maybe she went

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I got dreamed after that. Maybe
she started drinking after she did that.

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But you know, we'll tell people
there that should have stopped her. What

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I'm gleaning from this conversation is you
didn't really pay too much attention to the

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home run derby afterwards. Let's let's
talk about the event. No, don't

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I know, I got rid of
cable, so I don't you know,

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I don't really care about the home
run derby. I could care less.

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I could care less. Yeah,
it was exciting. It's lost its luster

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to me. To me, it's
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you had when you had the guys
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it was kind of exciting, then, wasn't it. It was Okay,

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I guess. I mean I never
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I went to All Star games Gary
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to two thousand and eight, but
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I just didn't have no interest in
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you know, I whatever, what
what I watched it? What are

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the thoughts watched it? But what
other thoughts do you have about the game

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tonight? I don't have anything about
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I said it was an okay game. You know, we got to see

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our guys get in, which is
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and you say it wasn't it the
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mean, people got the CEO Tani
hit a home run, They got to

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see Juan Soto hit a double of
a lot of the players got in that

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Cleveland reliever when he came in in
the United Then he's talk about a guy

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with gas. Unbelievable. That guy, his slow stuff, his slow stuff

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is hitting the one oh two.
I tell you who impressed me and who

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has impressed me every time a few
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player for Pittsburgh the Air Force Academy
guy Paul Skeins. You know what if

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if he'd been allowed to pitch,
because you don't do that in All Star

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Games, But if he'd been allowed
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have I would have been on the
air with you about nine o'clock because that

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guy is lights out against the best
hitters in the game. He made Aaron

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Judge look like a piker. Gary
Jeff Back in the day, the starter

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of the All Star Game would go
three innings. I don't know what happened

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to that they were allowed to go
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that guy who's like the face of
maybe of Major League Baseball. Now we

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get to see him for one inning. I mean, come on, man,

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leash and Ranny back out there for
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know, that's the way the All
Star Game and baseball's becoming. It's just

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they just can't get out of the
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I don't know if you're aware of
this, but next Wednesday, HBO

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is doing a four part series on
the life and tribulations and trials and whatnot

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of one Pete Rose. Are you
aware of that? You know I knew

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that at some point in our conversation
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But I don't blame you for that, and I'm I'm he totally deserves

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the retrospective that they're going to give
him because of his great accomplishments on the

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field and all the controversy, and
it makes for great drama. But I

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knew that Peter Edward Rose would come
up somewhere in our conversation. It always

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does. Now what they will have
to say in this four part series,

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I have no idea, but I
have a feeling I've heard it all.

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I mean, what more can they, you know, talk about p Rose,

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you know, as the player and
as off the field activities. What

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am I going to learn? What's
it going to matter? All I know

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is p Rose got a nice check
for doing this. Okay, Well here's

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here's what Here's what bugs me,
Gary Jeff long as as long as he

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doesn't spend it all fifteen minutes after
he gets paid. No, he's fine.

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No one, No one from HBO
contacted me for a comment. No

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one, but they did contact Get
this now. See Trent Rosecranz, a

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former beat writer the Reds who never
saw Pete play here? Who never saw

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Pete manage here? No, how
dumb is that you're talking to a guy

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who never saw Pete play in Cincinnati
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We're talking nineteen eighty nine, see
Trent rosecram is wall Be at nine

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years old. They didn't call me, so, you know whatever. I

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don't know how this is going to
turn out, but I'm glad. You

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know, more people will get to
learn about Pete Rose and we'll just see

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if it's a hack job or watts. Did they talk to Jim Gray?

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That's the question. I want to
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I don't know they talked to Jim
Dray. All Right, wild man,

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let's turn attention to talk to Jim
Gray with my knuckles right in his

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head. Let's let's talk for a
minute about the second half and your Cincinnati

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Reds, my Cincinnati Rids, our
Cincinnati Reds. What goes the rest of

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the season? Are they sellers or
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And how do you think the rest
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Forty seven and fifty three games back
of the last wild card, they

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begin a ninth game road trip starting
Friday, three in Washington, who are

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not pushovers. Then three against the
Tampa Bay Rays in Florida, and three

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games against the Atlanta Braves, so
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and uh and then of course against
the Nationals starting on Friday. They're not.

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The Reds have nothing to trade.
I mean they've been going back and

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forth to Louisville and Chattanooga just to
bring outfielders up here. Uh, they're

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gonna stay in pat I'd be very
surprised if they. But I don't know

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how they can pick up anybody because
they have nothing. They're trade. I

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mean, the guys they maybe have
trade bade or hurt, so they're not

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They're not going to be buyers or
sellers here. They're just gonna go with

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what they've got and hopefully, you
know, hopefully things work out. Matt

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McLean's not gonna play this year.
Only the white people can get all worked

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up about him. He's not.
He's not gonna be game ready. I

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mean it's not of like, no
Noble Marte. He's not game ready.

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You can see that. Should have
stayed down and trip away until maybe September

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even though, he and if he
can't play and he's not available for the

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postseason, just remember that if they're
that somehow get into the postseason, he's

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ineligible. He's ineligible. Are you
at least juiced about La de la Cruz

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this year? And I know you
see de la Cruz. I love the

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guy And you got to admit that
Jonathan India has been one of the few

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bright sparks in this team. Yeah, and he is a leader, and

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I think that La de la Cruz
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rook It's these these players are young
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I'd like to see the Reds hold
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contract until twenty thirty, so the
Reds don't have to worry about negotiating contract.

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What about India? His name is
always brought up as trade bait.

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It was last year. You know, you know, there's always one player

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in a Red's history that you hear
that might be up up for trade.

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Here's what's going to happen next year, Mark my work. Li de la

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Cruz is going to center field and
Matt McClain is going to be a shortstop.

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Oh okay, I mean, Jonathan
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What about putting la daily Cruise in
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Now now you're reaching, Now you're
reaching. Hey. By the way,

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Gary, the Reds only have as
I speak, twenty seven home games left.

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So remember that they've only got twenty
seven home games left. They still

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have to play the Braves six times. They've got to play the Minnesota Twins

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three times. They've got to play
the Oakland A's three times. They've got

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to play the Cleveland Indians twice up
there. So they've got some you know,

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tough teams they got to play.
I know the A's think, but

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the A's are no pushover. The
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But the least they have them here
and in Cincinnati. But only twenty

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seven games. Here's here's the here's
the question. And here's they'll have six

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with the Pirates. Here's the question. Do the Reds make the playoffs?

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No? No, they don't.
No, they don't, And if they

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did, they'd be one and done. It'd be one and done. They're

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not. They're not making the playoffs
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think that may be the worst thing
that can happen if they made the playoffs.

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Well, wild man, you got
plenty of time to make your popcorn

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and maybe take a little cat nap. Leave it to Beaver's not on until

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two. I appreciate you being part
of this tonight, and thanks you,

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thank you, And you're not gonna
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love Caitlin Clark. You know that. Well, if that, if that,

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if that woman is not Rookie of
the Year, there ought to be

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a Senate investigation. And if that
woman isn't on the Olympic team, I

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mean what you know, you gotta
be you gotta be kidding me, all

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right, that woman is deserves to
be on the Olympic team. I think

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she's happy to get the break.
Wild Man, thank you so much.

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Have a wonderful evening. And uh, you know my name and look up

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my number. So that's the flip
side of uh let it be on the

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Beatles forty five, one of the
great Beatle compositions that nobody knows. You

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know my name, look up my
number. You you know my name?

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And you were complaint song. You
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national anthemate the heme all right,
see you too. We'll take a break

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and come back. This is the
Nightcap All Star edition on seven hundred WLW.

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Listening to a man choose a lobster
from a tank in a restaurant.

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We continue this late night Tuesday night
nightcap with a nightcap flashback, Gary Jeff

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with you here on seven hundred WLW. I had the great honor of getting

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to know and having as a guest
on my show multiple times, the late

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great loel Ponte, and I like
to occasionally bring some of those conversations back

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because he was brilliant. He knew
more about more things than anybody I have

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ever met. He was wise beyond
what wisdom suggests, and I'd like to

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feature one of those conversations now with
your indulgence as we close out until midnight

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tonight. So, without any further
ado, a conversation from April of twenty

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twenty two with the aforementioned loll Ponte, and here's how it went. We're

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back for another segment with loll Ponte
on a Monday evening here on seven outter

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WLW is the Nightcap Gary the Jeff, as Lowell has dubbed me with Lowell

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on the phone. We were talking
about the new legislation in Maryland that is

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allowing all kinds of different people to
perform abortions now legally. And I wanted

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to get back Lowell real quickly to
the point of discussion when we were talking

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about the new Florida law which prohibits
the teaching of sexual sexual perversion. And

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I'll just call it what I want, sexual perversion in kindergarten, first,

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second, and third grade classrooms.
Well no, but if you were objective,

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I would just add as a quick
footnote, Yeah, the law protects

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children kindergarten through third grade from being
taught any sexuality, right, exactly,

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hoterosexual, homosexual, whatever, sir, Does it single out what type of

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sexuality cannot be taught. It just
said a kindergarten teacher is not even qualified

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to teach sex. There are kindergarten
teachers right now, God love them,

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who aren't qualified to teach one through
ten. But anyway, I just wanted

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to make a point about alternative lifestyles
and about sex in general. Sex is

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a choice in any form, and
it should be a choice of adult people.

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And you know, once you were
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yes, there are only two options
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If you choose to have sex with
another man and you're a man, that

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is a choice. We've been told
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I was a baby. I've been
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And so I didn't have a choice. You always have a choice whether to

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have sex or not. You always
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or not. You have a choice. No, no, no, I

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do want to qualify, Okay,
I know you love to be accurate.

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You will still have restraints on Gary
Jeff kind of sexuality from your years in

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the South, and that is,
anything you do to an animal would constitute

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cruelty to the animal. Yes,
and that is restricted by law, even

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though your sexual preferences may not be. And that is also a choice to

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break the law. You know how
many how many countries in the world list

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homosexuality as a crime, and it's
very severely in some of those countries.

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Those are supported by Disney and Hollywood. I don't know how many, quite

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a few, yes, at least
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Louell, sex is a choice if
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I'm not talking about rape or incest
victims who who don't who find themselves

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in a position where they're not choosing
to have sex, but the actual act

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of am I going to have sex
with a man? Am I going to

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have sex with a woman? Am
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Even though I'm in in? All
of this is a choice? Do you

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agree? Though? They are all
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whether it's heterosexual sex or homosexual sex, it is a choice. It's not

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like someone's putting a gun to your
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this way or have to have sex
this way. The law that were written

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in Florida and are coming down the
legislative pike in these other states to fend

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off this nonsense, this craziness,
this perversion, and this indoctrination of young

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children. The states that are writing
these laws are not trying to outlaw homosexuality

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or transgender They're just trying to be
common sense about this and say, you

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know, this is really a parent's
job, and we should we should keep

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our noses out of out of their
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or the other. And I was
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you are very young and one day
doesn't even need to go to kindergarten to

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third grade, if you're twelve,
Let's say you cannot walk into a tattoo

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parlor and get a tattoo. In
most states, the law says you cannot

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modify your body that way. But
Joe Biden and Democratic Party are now pushing

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for a law that would let a
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consent to have a sex change operation, or to take more maturity limiting hormones

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or other things. Now, children
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for all sorts of things, but
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this. And it's gotten to the
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ago at American Thinker, she took
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pediatrician's office, and the nurse at
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and said, you fill these out. They didn't give them to the mother.

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They didn't ask the mother's permission or
approval to do that. They wanted

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the son to fill out and sign
the forms. How does a twelve year

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old have either knowledged the worldliness or
the training to know how to handle such

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a thing, I dare say not, or maybe at twelve, maybe even

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with the failure for public schools in
this country, maybe at twelve the reading

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level to actually read what the forum
says and fully understand it well, if

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they go to public schools especially,
that's probably very limited. But what we

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are seeing increasingly is that children are
encouraged to think of themselves as sexually different

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from the way they were born.
Now now there really is theoretically such a

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thing as sexual dimorphism or sexual you
know, you were born in the form

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of one body, but you really
feel like you belong in another body.

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That does happen. But even in
the cases of those who have been carefully

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and honestly diagnosed with that condition,
not just by companies who want to make

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money or doctors who want to make
money because of it, they are in

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a very well eighty percent of them
in general decide to shed the dimorphism after

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a few years or months, and
they just return to perfect contentment with the

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body in which they were born.
They no longer want to be turned into

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the opposite sex or another sex,
or what have you. And lo and

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behold. Nevertheless, we have Biden
and the Democrats pushing hard to say that

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your child age eight, nine,
ten in public schools should have the right

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to make a secret agreement with the
teachers and the doctors to undergo a sex

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change, or to undergo a gay
club, which is now becoming very popular

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at schools in many parts of the
country. This part to the because the

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club, Oh yes, because it's
it's somehow chic and interesting to be in

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the gay club. But the parent
will not necessarily be told that their child

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is in this club, or that
their child is now taking hormones to alter

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their maturation, or that their child
is going to undergo surgery in two weeks,

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so the parents are completely out of
the loop on this. The parents

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are in the odd position of being
in the loop when it comes to pain

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for things and when it comes to
taking legal responsibility for the child. But

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schools now consider it almost normal,
indeed de rigueur, if you have enough

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gay teachers and administrators to basically force
or nudge strongly your child to agree to

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these things, and have no legal
obligation to inform the parent to get the

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parents approval in any way in fact, they encourage the children don't tell your

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parents. This was one of the
major issues when students began being taught by

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zoom calls home at the early height
of the epidemic. Remember with the pandemic

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of aid of COVID, and schools
were actually trying to issue orders home parents,

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you are prohibited from watching what your
child. Oh, I remember,

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I remember that, very very vividly. Yes, I mean, isn't it

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time that we did away with government
schools, absolute government propaganda and ideology to

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your children, the Department of Education. All schools were privatized and left alone

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by the government. The Department of
Education should have never been and it should

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be eliminated at the federal level,
absolutely, versus a Jimmy Carter created department

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in the government. I graduated high
school in nineteen seventy nine, the first

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year of the federal Department of Education, and I always feel, even though

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I was a subpar student, I
got a much better at education than the

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students that followed me afterwards. I
have a whole different set of agenda items

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in government schools, not least of
which is total servility to teachers' unions,

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which are major political instruments that give
millions and millions and millions of dollars to

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politicians in California. In fact,
I used to work in the legislature in

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Sacramento. There was a ritual where
the head of the state teachers union would

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occasionally appear in Sacramento and the politicians
were expected literally to kneel before them.

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What are you serious. Yes,
I'm very serious. Yes, that is

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if they were Democrats. But I
mean, anytime you vote for a Democrat,

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this is the kind of future you
are risking for your children and grandchildren.

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In fact, you're virtually guaranteeing if
you keep voting Democrat. What is

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the thing on the left with everybody
kneeling for things that aren't holy or righteous?

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I mean they kneel before the national
anthem to you know, to protest

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police. They give you a pray. They don't give you a bar of

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soap first, no doubt. Oh, by the way, Joe Biden is

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something we should talk of over.
Joe Biden is now setting things up so

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he will attempt to cancel student loan
debt in the country. There is one

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point seventy five trillion dollars of student
loan debt in the country. People,

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poor, humble people like Alexandria O
Cassio Cortez still oh student loan debt,

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even though she's now wealthy, and
so many of them are just waiting to

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have it erased from the books.
Biden will have to attempt to do it

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by executive order. I don't think
they can get it through Congress, but

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the mere fact that he and Bernie
Sanders would contemplate that is astonishing. And

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of course, the people who use
their student loan debt to get a college

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degree, some of them come out
out with a starting salary of two hundred

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thousand dollars a year. Now,
some of them, they're expecting their student

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loan depth, the one point seventy
five trillion dollars which added to our inflation,

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among other things. They're expecting the
working poor and lower middle class workers

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who have none of those special privileges
and advantages, to pay off the debt

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of the rich. This is how
the Democratic Party operates. Oh, and

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it's unabated. You're right up to
this point. Congress is the only stop

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gap. Executive order will be the
only way, and that, of course

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will be challenged, like many other
of Biden's executive orders, since he's been

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in office. We got about four
minutes. Low got a four minute topic,

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a four minute top four minute topic. Oh wow, well we've already

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used up about thirty seconds just talking
about it. So it was it was

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very very It was very revealing last
week when we saw Barack Obama visit the

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White House as a special guest and
to see the president, the actual president

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of the United States, Joe Biden
shunned by everyone in attendance, including,

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of course, his his former boss, former President Obama. He was holding

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court there and Joe Biden was just
wandering around aimlessly, staring at walls.

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Oh. At one point, Biden
actually put his hand on Obama's shoulder,

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and Obama would not even turn and
look at him. No, he totally

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blew him. And Nancy Pelosi walked
by him as if he were a servant

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who was in charge of divvying out
the drinks. Bring bring another tray of

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orders, Joe, I know what
I know one thing in California. Yes,

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and I could go and do I
could spend hours talking about the horrors

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of He got three minutes, so
go ahead, Okay, Well, one

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of them is the city of Palm
Springs has nowminarily voted that if you are

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gay or transsexual, you are to
be given nine hundred dollars a month as

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universal basic income, just for being
a gay or transsexual. By the way,

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the mayor of Palm Springs is transsexual. But this is a fairly significant

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city. It's where Frank Sinoftra used
to have a home and so on.

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Yes, and well, it's also
the district where Sonny Bono was elected as

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a as a representative in the House
of Mayor and was in the US House

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of Representatives representing that district. And
he was notably very conservative. How things

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have changed, how things have changed. And of course back then, not

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to say the area was bad,
but they had a law about endangered species.

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And so one day they were building
a new housing development complex in Palm

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Springs when in the middle of the
night, the authorities apprehended someone who was

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sneaking around in the complex and they
discovered what that person was doing. He

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was taking endangered tortoises and setting them
down in the complex so they could be

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found the next day, which would
of course raise a human cry that the

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complex building had to be stopped and
torn down because this was somehow important breeding

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ground for these endangered tortoises when they
were actually being transported from somewhere else.

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Oh, that's been done many times
in California, with one SPECIs or another.

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There was one case in northern California
where they wanted to stop the forest

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from being cut down for its wood, a small forest, and they went

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in. One environmentalist went in and
was actually snagging endangered fur from a creature

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on some of the branches of the
trees there, which would have been used

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had the hebot not been caught,
to justify stopping all the tree cutting there.

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I mean, this is a standard
left wing practice in California. There's

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a lot of them. Listen,
Low, our time sadly has gone for

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the evening, But I really appreciate
your cooperation and your brilliance and bringing these

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topics to light and bringing them to
greater focus than I could do on my

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own. Certainly, Well, thank
you. You're much too modest, and

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you are our exemplar for proper sexual
behavior. Let's not go into it.

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Let's not go into it at all. But bye, by God, it's

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my choice, Low, and it
should be yours and everyone else's. And

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you know things with books, you
wouldn't believe. You do not. You

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do not. You do not have
a choice at five, six or seven

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because you don't know, you don't
know anything about it, and nor should

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you. It should be the parents
can be programmed and brainwall you can.

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In fact, it's being done right
now, and that's why the Florida law

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was so important and instrumental. It
stops it is the last business isn't really

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happening. Well then why did they
object to the law? Exactly? Lowell,

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Thank you, God bless, take
God bless all right, we will

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close out the Nightcap in just minutes
and seven out of WLW. It's a

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couple of months old than

