What have you learned in the past ten twelve years from doing your show.
One of the things that surprised me, I just thought of this when you
asked the question that I was completely mistaken about YouTube. I thought I was
going to be building a basically a reference library, so that each video I
put out there would eventually get more and more and more views over time because
people would be coming back to a reference. But I found I found it.
There's about a three day window you have to get people's attention because they're
onto the next thing, the next thing. Yeah, recency is absolutely that
was a big surprise. You were listening to Carrie Let's Financial Survival Network,
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Network. I am here at Rick Rule's symposium in Beautiful booka raton Florida.
I'm sitting next to my good friend Dunnigan Kaiser. We go way back in
this journey we've kind of had parallel journeys but going along the same path.
And here we are. We're hanging out observing what's going on here. Your
YouTube channel, tell us your YouTube channel. Oh, Liberty and Finance,
Liberty and Finance must watch and hey, Donnigo, we kind of like I
started out in this twelve years ago now and you started out shortly thereafter.
You know what, what have you learned in the past ten twelve years from
doing your show. One of the things that surprised me, I just thought
of this when you asked the question that I was completely mistaken about you too.
I thought I was going to be building a basically a reference library,
so that each video I put out there would eventually get more and more and
more views over time because people would be coming back to it reference per I
found. But I found it there's about a three day window you have to
get people's attention because they're onto the next thing and the next thing. Yeah,
recency is absolutely that was a big surprise. One thing that I learned
what pushed us to go instead of from one to two to three interviews per
week to now typically six and now with the conference, shoot, we're doing
multiple per day as well, or when things kind of break open in the
in the geopolitical sphere or whatever, when we always have to do more multiple
per day. And moving forward. We started out audio only, I think
you were starting out that way as well. Then we went to video.
Now we're doing live stream, so those are changes that have come along the
way as well. I guess another thing that makes me think about is I
always knew, but I think I finally convinced my audience that I'm what I'm
bringing to this is I'm being there representative here. I'm asking the questions of
the guests because I'm frankly quite curious at what the guests has to say.
I want to pick the guest's brain on behalf of all of my viewers and
myself. So I'm learning as much, I promise you, I'm learning as
much as anyone from the guests we have on. So rather than being like
the source of information, that's where I was really had that wrong in my
head. The Originally I was thinking I would make a list of Okay,
well I know this, and I know that I know about engineering, and
I know about some things, but I didn't have to be That was one
of the things that came to me is I don't have to be the expert
about these things. I just have to be able to ask coherent questions that
a reasonable person might wonder. And then that's another thing that came out along
the way is it's been very frustrating and bewildering and angering over the last three
years that we're not being permitted to ask some very reasonable questions that the ordinary
person should want to know, does want to know, needs to know,
and we're being told, you know, thou shalt not ask that you know,
these are the names that may not be named. These are the questions
that may not be asked. Or else community strikes or deep platforming or whatever
you're going to get going to get canceled. That has been a I didn't
see that one coming at all. It's been been a big, big thorn,
and we're trying to find ways around it. I have some guests that
are amazingly adept at using metaphors or different words or hand gestures to a global
health issue. Yeah so or things like that, yes, things like that,
And so it helps to have a broader vocabulary. You can expand your
vocabulary the way you can escape the sensors filters, But that was something I
didn't see coming. Just think of it as like when you wanted to when
your kids were young and you want it understand something. My grandparents would speak
Yiddish, Yes, so unfortunately Yiddish is a dead language now but bees pig
Latin instead, so the algorithm can't pick it up well. And that becomes
one of the things that then you really start processing what that means. And
one of the things that that really is upsetting right down to the core of
my heart is wait a minute. The purpose of our channel is about awareness
and preparedness for the good of individual family, so they can take care of
their family and they can take care of their neighbors. And it's like,
that is a good thing. So why are we being treated In other words,
why is there a power structure that's set up to make sure that we
don't do that? And it's like, what does that tell you about the
power structure if it's against the better interests of the people. So that's where
some surprises that came along the way. Yeah, it was a shocker to
me too. You know, with a legal background, believing in the First
Amendment, I just assumed the two hundred and twenty five years. It was
universally accepted, adhered to, and defended. And what a shocker. It's
none of those things. In fact, it's under attack, and I don't
know what can really stop it. We had a lawsuit. I don't know
if you caught that lawsuit by Judge Dowdy where he barred government agencies other than
for intelligence purposes and criminal purposes from censoring talking to the social media platform.
I think I think we had you on shortly after that came out because you
said, and then they were trying to apply it to school board meetings and
that sort of thing. It was just crazy, the misapplication right away.
Yeah, so well this law, this judge threatened to roll it all back
right now. His decisions stayed by the Fifth Circuit, but it's going to
go to the Supreme Court. The one thing I don't know about you that
I found disappointing with all the turmoil we've had over the past several years,
is the inability or the lack of desire of the courts no to do anything.
Yeah, we've had a constitutional attorney, doctor Edmund Vera on and he
goes through he goes through branch by branch or the government, showing how there's
been absolute dereliction of duty, not just by the executive branch to not enforce
the law of the land, which is the First Amendment, Second Amendment,
et cetera, et cetera, but also the court's just chicking the ball,
just punt, just past, just hot potato. And he says, in
his viewpoint, after he's studied these cases that they've rejected, said we're not
even gonna examine the evidence. We're not even gonna look at them. Is
anything that's too impactful, anything that's too hot of a potato, Oh well,
if the president really isn't the president because he wasn't eligible, or oh
well, if if these appointees never could have gotten or if that election had
Oh boy, how would we unwind that? Well, that's too big of
a mess. We're not gonna open that cannonbem. So the criteria appears to
be that which would cause too much turmoil is too hot to touch. And
he says that's a that has no basis in lots to say that. That's
that you can't examine things that may be true. In fact, you don't
even look at the evidence which you're required to look at if they were true
then and it would be impactful, then it would be within your scope.
So that the Supreme Court in particular has has punted on numerous things that they
should have at least examined the evidence. Yeah, and they come up with
grounds not to do it. The only constitutional right that they've advanced over the
past ten twenty years is the Second Amendment. All the other amendments seemed to
be on the back shelf. Well, it's kind of interesting how people.
This is interesting because when we had the Obama presidency, people were all buying
weapons, thinking that they're going to need to protect themselves against a government overreach,
that sort of thing. And then when Trump came in, they called
it the Trump slump in the firearms industry because AMMA became readily available. Weapons
makers went out of business. Yeah, it went bankrupt, long standing ones,
right, and then and then now again we're back back off to the
races again and people feeling, oh, yikes, I better, I better
be able to protect my hearth at home, and the right people, we
should be able to protect our hearth at home. Frankly, that's it gets
back to. And we've had again doctor Vera is also an expert on the
Second Amendment, and we've had him on talking about people completely misunderstand and it's
a shame that it's not just about hunting rights, and it's not just about
self defense. It's about being able to stand up to tyranny. And so
therefore anyone says, oh, well, you we shouldn't have anyone having military
style weapons, he said, that's exactly the style of weapon you were required
to have in all of the state's constitutions at the time. The Secondment was
written so that you could repel threats for an in domestic All right, well,
I'm going to go out and buy a rocket, rocket propelled grenade launch
and the tank while you're editing. Yeah, in the armored personnel carrier or
all. Just get the new Tesla cyber truck that should cover all the bases.
But so freedom's under it salt and so effectively they said, you know,
when it gets bad enough, you still got your Second Amendment rights,
go use them. They've just punted on everything. You ever lose hope for
the future. I mean, you've got a lot of kids, grandchildren,
we do, and I wouldn't say completely loose hope no, I would say,
I confess that I am guilty of what I think a lot of us
are, and that is just trying not to dwell too much on the gravity
of the situation we face, because it can be overwhelming and when you if
you do get overwhelmed, then you become kind of paralyzed and it's not helpful.
So there's a couple ways around that. One is to believe that this
is not the end of the story. There's a bigger picture, and frankly,
there's a bigger authority here than these these earthly princes that like to push
people around. They are not the ultimate authority. And so having faith in
a higher authority and believing that this is not the end of the story.
There will be there will be justice, it will come is one thing.
But the other thing is just taking small practical steps. I remember when we
had three children under three at one point, and my whole world of trying
to be mister Joe professional in my trench coat and briefcase going off to the
office. I was completely stressed out until I kind of turned my life around
and realize I'm going to make building our home and our family my number one
focus. In other words bloom, where your plan to do what you can
do in a local thing. That's why you know, we're given the opportunity
where we are in time and in space and with the resources and the and
the innatabilities and the friends and the connections. And I was just talking to
you before the before we get started about how your influence affected a trajectory of
my son's ability to get into podcasting, and that got me into it and
so on. That's opened up other doors for our family. So you never
you never know what opportunities, what possibilities lie just beyond that next starting that
next new thing, or trying that trying and branching out in a new way,
reaching out to a new person. So I'm a firm believer that it's
not hopeless. And frankly, I have a favorite saint of mine, Saint
Padre Pio, and one of his favorite sayings famous sayings is pray, hope,
and don't worry, because when we fail followed the pit of worry,
it's it's very nonproductive. It disables our abilities. We've had Navy seals on
our show talking about when you're in an attack situation, defending hearth and home
or whatever, your adrenaline goes up, so how you cannot think clearly.
You can't, you can't, your memory shuts down. All these things happen
because your body and your mind is totally just focused on the threat at hand.
And in some ways, if you assume that your your preparedness is dependent
on all these plans you had kind of thought you had made, or tools
you have to get at or unlock or whatever to be able to repel this
threat, that's not going to be. Therefore, you can't count on thinking
well at a time of great stress. So you can either train under stress
situations until you get to where you can still function in that situation, which
is one option. That's what that's what the Navy Seals do. Or you
could, as an alternative to that, make things so simple and get them
so close so they're not undoable for you, even though you these things seem
too big, too big for us to affect. And I also trust in
getting the word out. We were talking about freedom of speech just a moment
ago. By by getting the word out, so I have one voice.
But when we have ninety thousand subscribers on YouTube and then people retweet and repost
our stuff, you're reaching untold numbers of people in igniting sparks in their mind.
And that's how that's how humans have always shared ideas, and an idea
is a very powerful thing, very true. Yeah, that's why they're trying
to get us. Do not to say these things. Well, so like
when you're talking about you know, Navy seals, airline pilot, they don't
practice flying at cruising altitude and everything is perfect. What happens when you lose
an engine? What happens when you lose both? What if something goes wrong?
What if we lose electric by train? Emergency situations? And when you
listen to the FAA black box, the recording of the pilot communicating with the
tower, they're never panicking. They're always seemingly in control, trying to solve
the problem at hand. You know, may may not work out, but
that's exactly it. And the thing is so manipulation and media. They're always
trying to knock you out of your rational state into your irrational emotional state of
fear and worry and doubt and all of that. So you know, when
the pandemic hit, I just said, you know, I'm gonna do what
I'm going to do. I'm going to live my best life and I'm not
gonna I'm just not gonna pay any attention to them. And I'll tell you
I had the best year that all of best years I ever had. I
happen to get COVID. I was in the hospital. It was bad for
a couple of days, six days in the hospital, but with the exception
of that three week illness, and then after COVID, I lost all this
weight, in better shape than I ever was before for the past thirty years.
So you know, it's hard though to filter it out though, isn't
it? Well? It is. It depends, and my wife reminds me
of that because given the preparedness focus of our channel, I tend to be
exposed to and seeking out feeds of information to tell me where there's a problem
so that we can talk about it, because it may be something people need
to be aware of so they can be prepared. That habit of seeking out
information about where there needs to be a problem can be a pit because if
you stay in that mindset all the time, you're not appreciating. You're not
smelling the roses, you're not appreciating the sunsets, and that sort of thing.
So we're challenging each other. It's our new thing, and we're doing
pretty well at it. I think of really stopping and watching the rainbows and
noticing when the osprey is going on it to go catch that fish out of
them out of the pond, and things like that. Just the wonders of
our grandkids and the treasure of a family on a marriage and that sort of
thing is something that we're trying to take the time to stop and appreciate,
and it really makes it If an exercise being active, yeah, you can
say, oh, there's no purpose, it's not productive. It's like you
swat a ball around the rack of the pick a ball court for well,
I don't know. We feel a lot better after we do that. So
one thing, you know, scientists have a lot of the wrong stuff,
a lot of stuff with food nutrition. But the one thing that every doctor
and every scientist out there agrees on is you should be exercising and doing whatever
you are physically able to do on a regular basis, because not only will
you be healthier at the present, but when you get to my advanced stage,
you'll be healthier then as well. Right, and keeping your blown mass
up and keep your muscle mass up and stuff like that so important. Yeah.
Yeah, My wife always reminds me when we have the opportunity to take
the elevator, she says, well, should we take the stairs instead?
So she's a really great one about that. Should we walk longer than we
did yesterday because we didn't get our walks in yesterday, that kind of thing.
So it's a good reminder, accountability partner. That's a key to a
successful marriage. So I'm going to ask you something a little off key here,
a little oddball. But we've had a lot of talk about UFOs or
whatever they call them now AFPs or something like that, and you know,
and you wonder, is it a siop? Si up? If you're not
aware, is a si up is an operation that is geared to control people
psychologically. CIA is a master of it is an extraterrestrial thing, the UFOs.
Is this a siop or is it real? Because when you talked about
before of being something else above us? Certainly, if you can travel interstellarly
between whatever planet they're at, you know, potentially billions of light years away,
they can get here instantaneously. They're obviously way way ahead of us.
What's your take on this whole discussion. I don't know that I'll be able
to speak intelligently to that subject. I would just say that I have a
science scientific training background, and that that predisposes me to. I mean,
I like what Galileo said. He said the Book of Nature is open to
all who would read it, and the language is written in as mathematics.
So I studied a lot of math, and I studied a lot of science.
And that's why I've been really ticked off the last three years is what's
being mislabeled as science. It's really just indoctrination or or you know, just
trying to corrupt it, well corruption sure, trying to push a narrative,
propaganda, and then just slapping the label science on it, as though that's
going to shut down conversation about it as a conversation stopper. So I don't
know the answer. When I was speaking of a higher authority, I was
being of a higher power being got But that's fine. But so I don't
actually know the answer. But I guess any legitimate scientists would say, let's
find out what we know and let's be open to that rather than rather than
predisposing. You know, I know the answer before I even examine the evidence.
So yeah, well it's just interesting because certainly were the world's orson wills
that whole radio thing. You know, he said five times that it was
fake, but people people were jumping off bridges and yeah, they were like,
hey, we're getting invaded by extraterrestrial because they trusted whatever came across the
wires. And that's something that's Um. You mentioned how we've been in an
dated with fear and worry as a as a means of controlling people did remark
in the governments of the world, and the people of the world did an
astonishing job of lockstep other than a few oddballs like you that decided to go
on with their life, you know, over the past three years. And
you've got to ask yourself you have a healthy, as you said, a
healthy skepticism, not just towards government, but towards what you hear on the
main media as well. Um, so it can be, it can be
bewildering as an ordinary person. How are you supposed to separate the lives from
the truth and you always do a gut check. You can check from different
angles. I would say definitely, don't just take one source as your only
source. Try trying to weigh questions like that. Couldn't agree more. I
just find the whole thing fascinating. You know, when I was like eleven
years old, as in the backyard, and there had been a whole bunch
of UFO sightings in the Worth East, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut,
And I'm in the backyard and I look up and I see this thing.
It's a spherical object, but it looked like it was a rock.
But it's got like red lights flashing and blue lights and green lights, and
it leaves a trail of steam behind it. I mean, it almost sounded
like a hissing sound, and it just went on its path. And the
media said that it was a meteor and it crashed. Well, I don't
know where that got all those lights from. And I'm not saying it was
an ET or a UFO. I'm just saying that their explanation didn't never satisfied.
That's not sufficient to what you had observed. Yeah, we had our
children observed something that I couldn't explain or understand over when they were when they
were young, and all three of them had the same rendition of that not
very different from what you described. So yeah, that's it's it's worthy of
curiosity, it's worthy of you know, inspection. So I don't have the
answer for you. All right, Well, hey, but we're always thinking
and open to possibilities. I think maybe that's what we both kind of specialize
in. Is like you think you know one thing. How many times do
you find out you think you knew something and you were wrong? Well?
Yeah, so even in my engineering career, I was I was responsible for
like designing and specifying very complex expensive equipment and when it would finally and designing
and doing the drawings and sending it off for fabrication. If when it would
arrive, rather than just going, oh, look it showed up, I'll
check it off on the box, I would crawl all over the equipment,
measuring all the dimensions and everything like that. So that old thing about trust
and verify it absolutely applies. Yes, it's it's a good idea to look
at where are the weaknesses in my plan? Where where haven't I checked?
My wife reminds me of this all the time. It's like, well why
didn't you check that? It's like, ah, because I get tired of
checking everything and you finally get bit at the time, you don't. So
anyway, it's a good idea to verify information and from multiple sources. That's
another thing that really stinks about the oppressive environment we're finding ourselves in where there's
only one acceptable narrative and you can't deviate from it. It's like says,
who, I mean that that doesn't make any sense. I mean, that's
the that's anti size, that's unscientific, it's anti science. Is you know,
challenge science is all about replication, replicating results, and you know,
blowing through theories that no longer serve. Right, if you have new new
evidence that shows that that wasn't developed there, then you get smarter and you
move on. Yeah, but now settled science to be science is anything but
settled, right Einstein, there's still saying yeah, he was mostly right,
but there's a few areas he wasn't right and they're working on them. So
all right, Well, hey, tell us where we find you, how
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