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I'm Steve Rivera, You're Jay Gonzalez. All I have to say to you,
ja is nil has really messed up a lot of things. Well,
first, the first thing it's messed up is a lot of people's heads.
Yes, fans and otherwise fans and fans and media. It's just you know,
uh I I don't ever dread coming in here, Okay, no,
because I have such a great time. We have fun, We get to
say our piece, and then we go home and do whatever we do.
But there's a butt. There's a butt because you know what we're talking about,
this Cranton guard Ryan nem Hard, who decide go to gonzag instead of
coming to Arizona, and the fan base and the media and Tucson has lost
its mind, has lost or they had already lost it. This is poured
more onto you know. Well, yeah, and and I know, we
have to talk about it, and we should talk about it, and we
need to talk about it. But I hate the harping that we have to
do or that I do, that I have to do on this freaking fan
base and the freaking media who thinks they know so much when they know right
right, you never know. It was a crazy few hours, maybe six
seven hours. Oh sure, of course I got into it with one guy
and not bad, a little bit back and forth. Um, and to
me, it's it's crazy. Things are going to work out however they work
out. I said to somebody it's gonna be fine, whatever that means.
But everybody, everybody's kind of saying Tommy Lloyd can't do it, and he
just wons sixty some games, sixty one game. It started this morning.
You know. There was a certain media member who I've had little things with
on social media who before this came, before the announcement, Kun said,
if this guy doesn't come to Arizona, you have to doubt Tommy's ability as
a recruiter. And I'm like, really, really, he's won sixty one
freaking games. What are you doubting. You don't doubt until you know that
he can't do it. I mean, that was stupid, and I hope
he's listening and he might be that was stupid. I didn't I didn't go
out on there and call him out because last time I did he almost cried.
But it was stupid for him to say that if Tommy misses one guy
whose brother went to Gonzaga and got into the NBA through Gonzaga, so he
decided to go to Gonzaga, that that means Tommy Lloyd is a bad recruiter.
Shut the f up, Okay, all right? Then there are a
bunch of them that followed, and up to about forty five minutes ago,
somebody posts Tommy Lloyd maybe all on X is an own guy x is and
all this guy, but there are serious concerns about his recruiting ability really and
this selectiveness and offering recruiting and offering recruits, his biding Arizona in the ass.
Do you know how many guys Tommy Lloyd has been recruiting? You know,
you don't know, so guys who again they say it so that we'll
talk about it right right, Let me ask you something, but you don't
have to answer the question. But in fact I said this to Ben Ben
Davis says, what's going on? And did you how many people are?
How many women have you fallen in love with? Oh? Wait, you
could say ten, five, two? Whatever? Did you fall in love?
Did you marry the first one? Did you marry the second one?
Right? The third one? There's more, there's more busses that come around
that you don't even know if they missed on them hard, they missed on
the next kid, the kid that might be going to Louisville. There's not
a third guy. There's not a fourth guy. Right, they're not a
fifth guy. They'll be fine, right? Do these do these guys who
say I've this isn't the first time I heard that he's being very selective?
And who he offers? Do you really know? Have you been in his
in his office to see his recruiting board, see how many guys he's recruiting
and he's making offers suits? You haven't, So what the hell do you
say? Like I said yesterday the day before when we went, let's go,
I you're on the air and I on the ball. How's it going
today? Oh? We're mad? I'm mad right now? No, I
couldn't tell what Brian, Well, hey, you know I think people are
starting to panic for no real reason whatsoever. I mean, I'm not surprised
this guy went to Gonzaga. It was either US or Gonzaga, you know.
And and he went to a place where he had family who went there
and they know the system, and you know, and even though Tommy Lloyd
helped recruit him in the first the brother the first place U went there,
you know, he went there. So there's there's there's two thousand other kids
out there. We're gonna find some people. People have to relax. You
know. One thing too, we don't need a lot of people. And
people think we got to get nine new guys, right right, We only
need about two three people, two or three good players exactly. We're out
there somewhere exactly. Let me. Let me see that, and we're gonna
find him, because you know, we're gonna find the guys who will fit
into Tommy Lloyd's system. One thing to this guard that went from Crayton to
Gonzaga, he was a point guard. We already have a point guard.
Yeah, let me see. I don't know if this guy wanted to be
the number two, the two guard or not, but obviously he wants to
be a point guard. Let me say this. I think in the next
day or so, or maybe a little longer, that we'll find out that
he uh that the will will have received a few dollars to go, right.
I'm sure, I'm sure he did. And that's the name of the
day. You know. That's all these kids are doing now. You know,
it's like the color yesterday we talked about, you know, Jake,
when Dolora came here, and when Dolora came here, they didn't have the
big nil money yet. You know right now, what would have happened if
Glora would have stayed at Washington State one year then left after this year?
Yeah, you know right, he's going to the highest bidder. Yeah.
I think that's exactly right. And people better get used to the idea.
It's the highest bidder. Now, if these people who complain I want to
sit here and coffee up, come twenty up a bunch of money, then
maybe that'll help out. That's that's where that's where I wanted to go with
it. And we talked about this yesterday with with Jay I said, Okay,
anybody who comments, give twenty bucks every time you comment on Facebook to
bitch about it send twenty bucks to you. Of a they need the money
to pay for the nil. They've got to coming from somewhere. If all
the people who were considered about their bitching here, here's another twenty bucks,
it's like twenty dollars jar the twenty dollars are you know? And one thing
too, I think people have to realize in about four or five years,
NIF will change differently because what's going to happen. These boosters who are paying
all this money gonna find out they're not getting at a large return on their
money exactly exactly and there, and they're gonna quit paying because they said,
well, I paid you guys a million dollars. What am I getting out
of it? These in tickets? Yeah. So this is what I also
say to people over the last time. You've been a fan for a long
time. I know this, Uh, since you've watched the NCAA tournament throughout
the years, Uh, you haven't hasn't proven that talent doesn't always win the
game. Yeah, and Arizona has experienced that first time. They've had the
better plays on the floor pretty much most most of the times since nineteen eighties.
So you have to chase these five stars, we've already gone through that.
How did that go? Right? You know? And I'm always I'm
on wondering too in the last few years, how much of these transfer n
IL people are are becoming national champions. Not a lot of them, right,
but they're I mean, they're they're they're there for two reasons, when
to collect the money and two to move on to the next level, right
right. And let's say, I don't I don't blame them, but but
the fans need to relax and say, Okay, it's not about Arizona's now
about Tommy Lloyd. It's a about the situation and not to Stephen, not
not just the fan the media that you know, there's some trusted media members
out there who are seeing stupid stuff and it's like, you know, people
believe them for you know, people believe you and me. Sometimes as ridiculous
as that sounds, people believe you and me. Sometimes people believe it is
very scary because it's out there, you know. You know, some of
these guys know they have an audience, and so it's like, let let
me be as stupid as I can possibly be, and that that that's frustrating
for me. You know, you really wonder what would have happened if lud
Olsen was coaching in this era, would have quit immediately. We talked about
that. We talked about that they went to taking it much to get Okay,
Brian, Hey, thanks a munch man. Okay, Yeah, I
like Brian's points all the way around. Um, it's gonna be about it.
It's if it ain't know about the money. It's about the money.
It's about the money. It's about the money. He would have had a
better, not a better. He's gonna be fine there. He would have
been fine here, right, and over the last twenty years, sorry to
say this, Jay, Gonzaga has been a bitter program. They happened.
Of course, we've talked about that. I don't know if fans know that.
Yeah, realized well maybe not last year though right last year, you
know, Gonzaga slipped a little Arizona with you know when further in the tournament.
Absolutely, But but you know, the point being that, you know,
if you want to if you want to say he's a tailble recruiter,
maybe you ought to wait to see what he puts on the floor. Yeah,
right, And if they if they come out of the box, next
year and they're losing game. They've got new guys and they're not very good
and they're losing. Now you say, okay, you know, bad job,
bad job recruiting this last year. But today, with sixty one wins
under his belt in two seasons, you're gonna call him a bad recruiter.
You're full crap, Hi, you're on the air on on the balls,
Yeah about not getting that hard. I don't think he was that big of
a deal not coming here because he's an average ball player. I don't see
what the big attraction of him was anyway. I mean, I I just
saw him have some decent games, nothing spectacular to me. I don't care
if he hasn't come here. Wherever we have enough average players here is you
know, not enough. But I don't think he would help the program that
much by being here. And that's and that's what we don't know. That's
that's what we don't know. Because but one of the things that that uh,
you know, that we don't know is how how would he have fit
in here? And maybe that's why he went to Gonzaga because maybe he didn't
feel like you fitting here. Maybe Tommy doesn't think he fits in here,
but he went after him because he had a relationship with the guy. Yeah,
I mean he's a good he's an act. He's an average ball player,
I think, you know. And he's too tall, Yes, he's
pretty small. So yeah, and um, you know, we'll be fine.
The basketball team will be fine and appreciate you guys shows always. And
I think what we don't know is what what everyone or what people perceived knowing
well, they know because their plumbers or their doctors or whomever, they know
what's going on in somebody else's life. The basketball world, they really don't
know. Ye, they really don't know, but they can easily talk about
it on Facebook or Twitter or whatever. Yeah. And I guess I need
to realize left them and I do. I do. Um, Like I
said, I got into it one I just commented, uh, talking about
fans, and I talked about it's because they won the title twenty six years
ago and here they are. Here, they are, many of them in
their tens teens at the time, are talking about this and he can't do
the job, and that one victory, that one victory has them like they
are the poop. Yeah, you know. The thing for me, Steve
is that, you know, because you know a lot of what we talk
about. You know, we see what's up, we see what people are
talking about it there on social media or whatever, and we see what they're
talking about it, and that's what that's what we do with our show.
And we talk about that stuff. And I couldn't turn away. I knew
I should turn away, but I couldn't turn away. It's like about car
crash. Yeah, I couldn't turn away from it. So I can say,
Okay, that guy's an idiot, that guy's an idiot. That guy's
an idiot, and that guy's an idiot. Yeah. Let me also because
again because the proof is right now, the proof is right, let me
also see that we're not in the alibi. At least I'm not in the
alibi business. Tommy lawyer doesn't need an alibi. Uh, let's see how
this all plays out exactly. This is day one in a long marriage and
exactly, and these these people don't want it to play out. They want
to say, this is what we know today, so he must suck.
Yeah, it's a crazy time. It's a crazy time. So many factors.
Um, we'll see, we'll see eventually. But today, when when
that happened, and I posted something, and then some other people in the
wildcat stuff, and I'm thinking, really, really, it's that that important.
Yes, I completely say I didn't post anything because I was gonna do
what I'm doing now. I was gonna rant on somebody, and as I
said, I'm just gonna leave it. We'll talk about it on the show,
you know, because that's you know, that's our form, that's our
platform. We'll talk about it on the show. And if somebody that somebody
that I've spoken about without mentioning their names, is offended by that, fine,
I have to go back and check. Yeah, to go back and
check. I kind of know who talk you know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, but it's stupid. It's stupid. And the thing is, Steve,
there's not one of these guys, not a one of them who who
who knows, you know, has a pinki's worth of knowledge that Tommy Lloyd
has you you're bringing out? Yeah, right, seriously, right, yeah,
just Tommy Lloyd for gets more basketball in his sleep than these guys have
ever known. And that drives me crazy because what it does, you know,
That's one of the things that I saw posted some some national guy post.
If you want to see an absolutely bad stuff crazy fan base, go
look at the reaction to Tommy Lloyd not getting who was it? Who's whose
goodman? Uh? Kevin Sweeney from College Basketball Central, Yeah, I don't
know who that is. If you want an illustration of how in Saint fan
bases can be, go read whatever's on the fans are saying about Tommy Lloyd
this morning after one number one seed and one number two seed is in two
years as a head coach. And that's what I'm saying. You've actually all
this BS, you might have to be careful with because because you were not,
I've been close like four times that the BS is gonna say, you
know what, I don't need this crap right right? Why would I go
there is? Isn't that one of the reasons. Hey, we gotta let's
go get We're gonna talk more about this with Jake Spish is going to come
on. He's been out on social media rat ratting on some of these people,
which he should be and I appreciate, yeah, Jake doing that,
and then in the second hour, Dave Hickey will be on. Yes,
we hope, we hope. He retweeted our our social media, so he
knows. Thank you, Thanks Dave. We'll talk to you a little bit.
So stick around. It's Ben, It's gonna be a fun day.
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He's Jakensas Now on the phone, we have our usual Friday gifts. Jake
Fisher and great sposor. Jake, how are you? I'm doing well today.
How are you feeling given what you've seen on the internet today regarding basketball?
Well, like we were talking about before. Of course, that was
one of the folks that was a little pissed. I didn't go on there
and say, oh my god, everything is going to hell in a handbasket.
If this guy's falling, the world's gonna end, and that we're gonna,
you know, end up eleven or twelve see, like everybody else I
saw. I just at first, I was up set because I had heard
for the last couple of weeks rumblings that he was going there, and apparently
at the very last second is when he decided not to go. However,
it's one of those things to where if we would have landed him, it
would have been a perfect start. And I think everyone's getting frustrated because you
have teams like you know, I don't know Arkansas, who have already got
my five or six transfer commits, and they're just kind of taking anybody that
they want. So Tommy looks a little bit more laid back. He's gonna
go ahead and focus on the guys he knows could fit right in and basically,
you know, do what they want right away. I still think that
there's gonna be some folks that go into Portal a little bit late. I
think that Tommy knows what he's doing. The only thing that I can see
from you know, their standpoint is maybe if we get you know, a
more dynamic recruiter or something on, you know, as an assistant coach,
or maybe if we up to nil, which you know, the people that
are complaining a lot of them probably don't give, you know, to the
NIOL stuff. But the other thing is, you know, I think at
the end of the day, I think we somehow find out how to get
a better roster than what we had last year. You know, I mean,
I think our starting point guard is going to be better. We have
a three that's going to be better than he was last year. We have
a five that's going to be better than they were last year. We have
probably two guys that are going to come off the bench that are going to
be a heck of a lot better, and who knows, they might be
forced into maturing a little bit early. Not having them hard there is going
to force Kylan to become who we know, he's probably going to be a
little bit earlier. And I just think from an athletic standpoint, if we
get more athletic with the type of offensive system that we run, and we
can get another maybe combo guard with another wing, you know, maybe an
athletic you know, I don't know, a power forward that can shoots.
I know I'm asking a lot here, but I think that we're going to
get it done with our bench that's gonna be a little bit better than they
will last year. It's getting, you know, a little freshman that just
came over from Europe. I think we're gonna be fine. Well, And
that's the thing again, you know. The bothersome thing to me, Jake,
is that you know, Tommy's put together two incredible seasons, sixty one
wins, a number one seed and number two seed. Granted it didn't go
well in the ncable A Tournament, but it's like he's not a good coach
now because he didn't get this one guy. And you can't recruit because you
didn't get this one guy. They're used to Sean Miller bringing in the top
three class every year, and then you'd have guys leave after one year transfer,
you know what I mean. So if you have when you get into
the NC double A tournament, not only is guard play very important, which
I think we're still going to have improved guard play, but another thing that's
very important is having seasoned guys. So if you have guys coming back for
their second and third years, or you're bringing in a couple of transfers that
are a little bit older. That's a good thing. Like that just what
the transfer portal should be used for. Plugging it immediate play guys that are
a little bit older that can make an impact and that they're dynamic. And
I think there's still going to be guys out there. And you gotta remember,
I think we got Cedric and Ramy like in June or something last year,
so we still have time. There's still going to be good players leading
in the portal. And who knows, maybe there's someone on you know,
a lesser team right now that's looking at Themhart, you know, not going
to Arizona and saying, hey, I think I'm pretty good. I would
like to play in that system for you know, the winning his head coach
throughout his first two years. You just never know. And I think these
guys they're they're very calculated. They leave options open and then you know,
the future is still bright. kJ Lewis is coming in next year. I
think he's going to be a very dynamic three or four year player, Televot
defender. He's a little bit bigger and stronger athletic. I think he can
guard better than anyone we've had, you know, alongside Kyl and Bob as
well. And the other thing is you're bringing in Jamari Phillips, who's a
legit two or three year player who is probably going to be able to light
it up his second here when he gets more comfortable in the system. And
we still are supposed to land Carter Bryant. And now that Themhart is leaving,
if we bring in a senior for that two guard position, who knows,
don might reclassify, So there's still a lot of options on the table.
I just think, you know, I was a little stunned at first
as well, because we've been told for three weeks this is the person that's
coming, and then he left at the last second. But then after you
know, cooling my head off and getting off Twitter, I'm like, well,
you know what, his brother went to Gonzaga's brother one's probably telling him
to go to gonzag He probably wanted who cares onto the next week, right
and his brother who got to the NBA through Gonzaga. I mean, yeah,
and even though Tommy was a big part of that, you never know,
like, you know, my little brother wanted to go to the U
of A like I did, you know, It's like you have brothers want
to go where you know they're comfortable, and because he had probably been to
quite a few games up at Gonzaga and hung out with all of the coaching
staff there, which I think the only you know, new coach they have
is the one that replaced Tommy and the kids, you know, the guy
from Florida State. But I mean the entire support system there is probably very
similar to what it was when his brother went there. So so Jake where
I know, you read all the stuff and then shame on you, but
but it is what it is. Where do you think the fan base at
Arizona went wrong? And I say that reluctantly, But you know what I'm
saying, why why have they become so crazed? Well? I just think
that a few years ago Sean Miller had to bring in a bunch of guys
you know, from overseas and from uh, you know, Canada and whatnot
to fill a roster because of the FBI hanging over our head. And then
that first year that coach Wood was here, he had so much success that
everyone has already you know, completely tried to put us up in the blue
Bloods like we're still a step down. We're not going to get there.
For it's one of those things to who knows, we may never get there.
We might be a villanova that has two or three championships while all the
other blue bloods end up having seven, eight, nine, ten. Who
knows. But the fact of the matter is he's a hell of a coach.
And you know, I think it's just because it's been such a long
drought since we've been to a Final four. As soon as they saw that
first year where you know, we got to the sweet sixth team, and
if we would have been you know, a little bit more rough around the
edges, with better guard play, we would have been used in in my
opinion. But I mean, the fact is he just took a roster that
had no business being a two seed. And who knows, maybe we would
not have been a two seed if we would have been in a harder league,
even though we had all those big time games where we beat good teams.
But the fact of the matter is he masked a lot of the deficiencies.
Wasn't a great defensive squad, wasn't a very guard driven squad, wasn't
a very athletic squad, you know, and that's what happened to us against
Princeton. So you know, hey, bring us some more athletic guys.
You're going to have some guys two or three years in the system, better
guard play, and I want to see how the system goes because he's kind
of doing the you know, the mix and match thing like what lud Olson
did, where you have guys here two or three years and then remember when
Sean Miller first got here, and he's sprinkling a bunch of you know,
two three year players with a five star that can jump in the starting lineup
right away. If we get a Carter Bryant. We have some of these
guys that have been around for a couple of years. I think we're going
to start getting back to that. But you can't just recruit one and done's
like Sean Miller had to do for the three or four year period and try
to mix them together. You need good guard play, you need some athletes,
and then if you have a hold of fill, you go out and
get one of those five stars, or you go out and get an instant,
you know, performer in the transfer portal. Yeah, so let me
ask you Oh, let me say this, what if you don't get the
Brian kid been one, well, everyone's gonna melt down again. And then,
you know, the only the only reason he wouldn't come here is for
some reason he got some crazy backdoor deal by Louisville. But from everything that
I've heard, I mean the kid cried, sorry, not the kid,
I'm getting old enough. The young man cried when he got an offer from
coach Tommy Willard. I guess it was a dream school. So yes,
I would be very surprised if he didn't come here. But at the same
time, because of what just happened with the them hard kid, I'm gonna
be a little bit numb. And then hey, next next person up,
go find somebody else. Yeah, And you just don't know, You just
don't know. You never do. And recruiting because of the NIL is going
to be a lot different. You know. It's like, hey, you
know Louisville who only won four games last year versus Tommy wod winning sixty one
games in his first two years. Normally that would be a pretty good uh,
you know, you would know exactly where he's going right now because Louisville
can drop him quite you know, a lot of money. Then you know,
you just never know. Like I'm still like all the sites, you
know, with them hard they were saying Arizona one percent leak. Well guess
what all the sites are saying right now for Carter the same damn thing.
So gear up exactly exactly. It just I just I don't know, just
pissing me off, don't it din't help people? And to tell you that
we talked about this yesterday too. You have the Arizona fan base that are
okay, what Timmy, Timmy, and then giving a little slack to Adia
who's going through the same stuff. Right. You gotta get the players,
Gotta get the players, gotta coach the players. I mean, it's two
kind of different dynamics. Well and Adia's you know, Adia, the last
couple of classes have been kind of like you know, the last couple of
Sean Miller class. Right, It's like you have to completely reconstruct the entire
roster every year. And I like if some of the players she's taking,
I think she's starting to take some of these gals that are going to take
you know, roles better. They're not just going to be, you know,
thinking that they're going to be a starter and a star in two songs.
So, um, I think she's going to figure it out. I
mean at that level, if you get one person that can perform in march,
they can almost take you all the way. You guys saw that with
Area, So you know, good Guard played both ways. You have some
folks that have been there, done it, play defense and you have a
chance. Yeah. I hear you, man, I hear you. And
it's just but it's it's Look, I'm the fan in the room here,
right, and it's just frustrating to watch this the other fans, right,
Yeah, you watch what the other fans do and like like like Steve,
you know, I mean, how much of why look whether or not you
think Kirk Crissa should have stayed, was a good player or whatever, how
much of why he left was because of the fan base here? And just
you know, I don't know. It just bothers me that that fan bases,
you know, are liked and can be like that and with this,
with these platforms that they have, and they make the rest of us look
bad. You know. Well, Tommy Lloyd is trending on on on Twitter
right now literally because because this is what I'll this is what I'll tell you.
I know that Tommy probably doesn't have a Twitter. He does, I
don't think you can because you know, as players when you're young, sometimes
you read into your press clipping. I can't tell you how many stupid crap
I saw, you know, on Twitter and Facebook and message as I got
from idiots that have never picked up a basketball or football in their lifetime.
When I didn't have a great game on when we lost as a team,
so um, you know, I a fan telling me, I hope you
know they helped I broke my ankle. When I busted up my ankle gets
Washington my senior year, Like, there are gonna be idiots like that.
You can't read into it. You learn that after you're freshman year. So
if that's the reason he left, and I, you know, I don't
know what to tell you. I think it's just more of Kyland Boswell looking
to take the next step, and we're looking to get another dynamic guard that
can do more than shoot, you know, threes and run up the floor
and throw a pass over everyone else is running. That's honestly what I think.
I think he's going to be a good player, you know, I
just think that they want something more and that's not a bad thing. Yeah.
Agree. And the other thing is, you know there's been rumblings about
some guys overseas a and I know people don't like to hear that. I
think they start is going to be I mean Tommy got Umar, you know,
and it took him a couple of years to figure it out. Pellas
a guy from overseas, even though he went to Utah first, we brought
him over here. Kurls was from overseas, been math and was from a
different country. He went to rout U, you know, playing the NBA
Mexico League. I think coming up here, Christian Coloco saying, you can
find those guys. They're not going to come in here and dominate from you
know, the first game. You're not going to get you know, DeAndre
and r Marvin Bagley from up the street in Phoenix or whatever. I could
do the same thing. So I've heard that there are some guys overseas that
look like they're going to be an even quicker contributor than you know, a
Vassar or whatever it might be. And I mean tu Bellas remember his freshman
year, he had all the tools, but there were some games where the
defenses showed him stuff and he didn't know how the heck to get to a
spot. And you know, he got most of his points on fast breaks
and he just averaged twenty and ten as a junior. So if you get
a few of these guys, you sprinkling, you know, with some older
American guys whatever. But the fact that you know, people all of a
sudden are like, you know, you look it over Gonzago, the people
that he took there, and now people all of a sudden are saying,
whoa, We just don't know if he's got the eyes you know, for
prospects, and you know, blah blah blah. It's like just stop.
You know, it's he's going to fill out the roster, you know,
because of the loss in Netmart, who knows we might be second sidle to
SC next year. I just still know we have a better coaching staff.
But you're gonna have a couple of young guys that are gonna be able to
come back. We're gonna have a more athletic team than next year after that.
I hate to get ahead of myself, but when some of these really
young guys that are still here, you know, that are all of Tony's
guys start getting here. I just have a feeling it's going to be a
lot better. But I mean, remember this last year, we lost two
guys to the NBA that we thought were barely fringe, and then all of
a sudden, the NBA execs washed him to go those guys are pretty good.
Let's give him some high grades. And then they left, so we
had to fill into spots that he thought he would be able to get back.
Yeah, and he's still got a two seed. We got. Just
listening. I'll say on the record now that you'll see a good a very
good player in Philippe, the kid who set out this. You're very good
to a three four guy. So I think they'll be fine. They'll be
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W This is I on the Ball with Steve Ribera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox
Sports fourteen fift days. Hey, welcome back to it on the bar here
Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jagon's office. If you'd like
to call us in complain or tell us we'd complain too much, so let
us know five two four seventy four forty. The good thing is we have
about thirteen minutes. We're gonna talk to Dave hekey on the west side.
Uh, maybe talk to him a little about this, especially with the nil
Having talked to Adam Lazaris this week just to see, you know, the
time and the place in the field of the cot you know. And Dave
and I had a brief conversation. He was he was the NCAA rep at
the West region that I was working up in Vegas, and we just had
a brief conversation because it was the day that it was right after a Dia
Barnes lost like five players in two days, right and and the conversation basically
was this is this is what it is. It is not just here and
that you know, you may lose a guy and you think, you like,
it's not because you did a bad job recruiting it. You lost the
guy because maybe somebody handed this guy sure a whole bunch of money or something,
you know. Uh b. John Robinson was on Dan Patrick. I
saw that had a conversation about all his Ni l stuff, you know,
talking about his Lamborghini and the Mustard, you know, all these things that
he got. You know, he's getting a suit for the you know,
for the for the draft and stuff. It's like it's a whole new world
for these guys too. No, you just like they're they're making decisions like
it's a financial decision on top of being where do I want to play this
question? The one thing I got out of that interview with him was he's
only visited two teams. Yeah, you two teams and the rest are on
zoom, which was that's how we looked at it. But still I saw
did you see the ESPN story on him? Generational type of running back?
Who? Who? Who's living in the wrong generation? Right? Because they
don't because there's no value in those running backs. They're saying, you know,
back in the day, he's the top five pick and he's probably gonna
go late first round. Yeah, you know the thing somebody like that.
The Eagles who were in the Super Bowl are gonna be able to get him.
Be thirty gonna beat thirty, right right? I wish I had his
problems. We guys name yeah, yeah, yeah, So no, that's
if you want to call in again. Five two, four, seventy four,
forty we're still talking to Maybe we're complaining a little bit too much about
the people, but it's I've come out there, you've come down. You
must. I did go to the bathroom. My head was exploding. I
had I did relieve some pressure. I didn't relieve some pressure talking about stupid
stuff. Hey it's Friday, man. Yeah, I'll I'm a little about
my wife's gone out of town. What to do, I'm about myself.
Welcome to my world. I'm han't been tonight for sure. You make it.
Buy something, Okay, I'll leave to go to a restaurant because there's
a nice when it was meat markets over by the best the best one.
Okay. Uh so another. We'll keep talking about this until we don't.
Recruiting has gone crazy. You know, the guy that I really loved,
I don't know if he's in the transfer fort. The the center for Princeton
would be perfect, you know, like the guy that kind of ran they
ran everything right, who a nondescript player who just can remind me of Luke
Walton, but more athletic. Why are you leaving Princeton to go to He's
done because you can only play four years? Oh so he was ga G
And I don't know a situation. But I love those type of players who
kind of fit in and just make things they do again, they do what
they do, and that fits with every and when you piece it together with
everything else. Right. And we talked about this the other day about that
being the ninety seventeen correct that not a bunch of stars. Yeah, Mike
Baby was a star, Sure, Moss Simon was a semi star. Dickerson
was was really good until but all those pieces, you know, Jason Terry
coming off the bed, you know AJ Bramlett, uh Gen Edgerson and and
uh, you know they're jumping out of the gym, Bennett, Bennett,
Davidson, you know, guys who probably might not start at a lot of
other schools. But yet all those pieces melt together into a national chat at
the right time, right place. Yeah, you no questions, and then
you know they got better the year later. And and to me, that's
the kind that's the kind of coach Tommy Lloyd isn't. I wish people would
realize again, these are the people that were complaining Sean Miller was getting nothing
but five stars, couldn't hold them together, couldn't win with them. And
now they're you know, wanted them to change his strategy, and now they
got Tommy Lloyd who's going out and getting guys that fit what he does.
They're not all five stars, and they're losing their minds when he doesn't get
them. Jay maybe they're just complainers. Maybe those guys are just complainers.
They can't they can't figure it out. So what are you gonna say,
Well, let's complain. I think I'll hate their own lives the therapist,
you know, it's it's like, what do you want? Well, you
can't make everybody happy. I realized a long time ago you just can't.
And I'm gonna probably take names and whatever, and when the when he's twenty
twenty and one, next year, eighteen and two or whatever, calling everybody
out, What the hell? What did a few months ago? You were
like pooping all over the place, were calling everybody out Hi on the air
and on the ball, Hey Jay, um Steve, this is John.
I think that's uh one of the big problems with Arizona fans, especially those
of us that grew up here, and you know this, Jay, They're
always gonna lose. They're always gonna break our hearts. We never we never
win the big one. And it's like I said the other day about you're
not a head coach until you are a head coach. You're you're gonna you
know, until they stopped breaking our hearts. That's what it's gonna be.
And the people are gonna act pessimistic. But see if John, I think
this is I think this is the opposite is that they have won a championship.
The basketball team has won a championship, So we have we want ninety
seven, ninety seven, twenty five years that five years I know no more.
But that's no, that's Arizona done. Stopped on this. Arizona is
not that Arizona I know, but that that's the point I'm about to make,
is that they win this championship twenty five years ago, and this fan
base, because of that, twenty five years later, twenty six years still
feels entitled. They feel entitled that you know that they think it should it
should be easy at Arizona, and it's not. And that's that's the problem.
It's not. It's not easy anywhere. Like the point you guys have
been making about teams with chemistry are getting over all these talented teams done.
Let me ask you a quick question. I don't I've never asked your age.
Can you say your age or near? Give me a ballpark? Okay?
If done? Okay, So in the fifty seven years, maybe forty
or whatever, you've been at UFAN, how many times have they not broken
your heart once? It's it's half and half because you're gonna be happause,
you know what, on Saturdays in the fall when we go to play Ucla,
we are outmanned every single time. But what's our record against Ucla?
Those guys fight like wildcats and we're you know, we're always competitive with those
guys, even though they always have better football players than we do. So
your point is, your point is not all the time has your heart been
broken? Well, not all the time. In basketball, when once we
started getting all these five these rent rent of five star guys that we've been
getting, I've just completely ignored recruiting and everything else. The part that one
thing that I don't like is people whining about us not getting a guy from
Cranton. Really, that's a mid major. I don't care how good they
were this year. That is a career mid major school, and we shouldn't
be we shouldn't be going, oh man, we got that guy from East
Tennessee State, So what well they're talking about good is he? How good
is he? If that's where he started out? Yeah, no, I
hear you. My point was I would have said, I would have thought
you to say every year until ninety seven and every year since because you know,
hell no, Because I'll tell you what Steve, in my opinion,
eighty eight is still the best team Arizona has ever had. Now we get
fighting words. No, I don't disagree. I'm gonna tell you because you
know what ninety seven looks like. It is better, but eighty eight to
one that started it. And those guys were like those five glad guys played
like one guy. They were. It was one mind between the five of
them. No U, no question, no question again. I'll tell you
that I was at the airport after the Great Alaska Shootout. I was at
I was in Chale Center when they came back after being North Carolina. I
was. I mean, so it's I'm but you know what the thing is
what general fans need to think about, and I don't usually do. It's
the final four. Getting to the Final four is a pretty big deal.
Yeah right, And it's hard. Out of three hundred and some teams,
you're the you're one of the last four standing. That is humnkus and it's
hard. Look at there's a voice of reason who appreciate reason. I'm thankful
that we don't break your heart, and and and and the thing is is
up until ninety seven, I think my heart would get broken before that and
not since then. I think I got relaxed with you got one right,
Yeah, because I honestly I'm to get a little bit of get off my
lawn. I don't want to see my city burn. I don't want anue
district to be burned down and then there's no place to go. Right,
it's so nice now too, there's that. Let's set the sun link on
fire. Hey, don thanks a bunch man, have a great weekend,
the may the mayor thanks you. The chief of police station, so does
the chief of the fire department. I mean that's realistic. I mean,
come and do my friends did with a Lobo land. They've always had their
hearts broken? How many times my heart has been broken? Never? Because
I don't if you don't, I get their their love for their team.
I get, But come on, there's a point of going too far.
Yes, yeah, And you know the funny thing is with me, basketball
doesn't break my heart. Football does. Football does, but basketball does not.
And I don't know if it's because I'm you know, so close to
it with what I you, but it doesn't and it never has. Um
do I get you know, do I get like frustrated or mad or whatever
to a certain level football or basketball? Not near as how I get mad
at you know, Africa. You know when when there's a last any of
you yeah, you know Jets. First year, I wanted to set a
car on fire. You know, I was so mad. It's just not
your car, not my car, somebody else's car. You know, I
was really upset. Let's take this real quick, because we got about till
minute and half. You got about twenty second. Hi, you're on the
air. You got thirty Hey, I heard you talking to the caller that
was talking. Uh, Colorado won a national championship in the nineties, and
football, where are they at? Right? So, in other words,
when you guys said we won a championship in nineteen ninety seven, that's just
ancient history. I totally agree, totally agree. I've been saying that for
years. But do you agree? But do you agree that that that that
has made the fans entitled like they should win one every year because they've won
one. No, but look at you card. You can start winning championships
in nineteen ninety nine and they got five, but don't tell you. We
gotta get off that. We won a championship in nineteen in history. Agree,
agree with you. Hey, thanks for the car. We appreciate it.
We gotta go listen as always. Yeah, alright, No, he's
right. We've been saying this forever. Yeah, I know enough enough,
all right. You know I dated a supermodel once. I'm not entitled.
I'm breathing better, although that never really happened. I'm breathing better. Yes,
it's Friday, man, I don't want my Friday to be all messed
up. Yeah, because you're gonna be solo eating Manuna, Go get big,
Jim Man. How good is that? I loved? I love that?
Okay, I love that. Cool. All right, let's take our
last break of the hour. We're gonna come back all kinds of breaking news
involving some you have a guys and those kinds of things. Um and Dave
Hicky joining us at about uh at about four twenties, So stick around for
all that. Lots more to come on the show. We'll be right back. He