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This is I on the Ball with
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Welcome to you. I on the
Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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I'm Steve Rivera, You're Jay Gonzalez. All I have to say to you,

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ja is nil has really messed up
a lot of things. Well,

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first, the first thing it's messed
up is a lot of people's heads.

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Yes, fans and otherwise fans and
fans and media. It's just you know,

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uh I I don't ever dread coming
in here, Okay, no,

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because I have such a great time. We have fun, We get to

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say our piece, and then we
go home and do whatever we do.

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But there's a butt. There's a
butt because you know what we're talking about,

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this Cranton guard Ryan nem Hard,
who decide go to gonzag instead of

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coming to Arizona, and the fan
base and the media and Tucson has lost

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its mind, has lost or they
had already lost it. This is poured

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more onto you know. Well,
yeah, and and I know, we

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have to talk about it, and
we should talk about it, and we

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need to talk about it. But
I hate the harping that we have to

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do or that I do, that
I have to do on this freaking fan

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base and the freaking media who thinks
they know so much when they know right

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right, you never know. It
was a crazy few hours, maybe six

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seven hours. Oh sure, of
course I got into it with one guy

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and not bad, a little bit
back and forth. Um, and to

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me, it's it's crazy. Things
are going to work out however they work

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out. I said to somebody it's
gonna be fine, whatever that means.

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But everybody, everybody's kind of saying
Tommy Lloyd can't do it, and he

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just wons sixty some games, sixty
one game. It started this morning.

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You know. There was a certain
media member who I've had little things with

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on social media who before this came, before the announcement, Kun said,

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if this guy doesn't come to Arizona, you have to doubt Tommy's ability as

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a recruiter. And I'm like,
really, really, he's won sixty one

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freaking games. What are you doubting. You don't doubt until you know that

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he can't do it. I mean, that was stupid, and I hope

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he's listening and he might be that
was stupid. I didn't I didn't go

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out on there and call him out
because last time I did he almost cried.

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But it was stupid for him to
say that if Tommy misses one guy

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whose brother went to Gonzaga and got
into the NBA through Gonzaga, so he

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decided to go to Gonzaga, that
that means Tommy Lloyd is a bad recruiter.

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Shut the f up, Okay,
all right? Then there are a

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bunch of them that followed, and
up to about forty five minutes ago,

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somebody posts Tommy Lloyd maybe all on
X is an own guy x is and

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all this guy, but there are
serious concerns about his recruiting ability really and

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this selectiveness and offering recruiting and offering
recruits, his biding Arizona in the ass.

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Do you know how many guys Tommy
Lloyd has been recruiting? You know,

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you don't know, so guys who
again they say it so that we'll

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talk about it right right, Let
me ask you something, but you don't

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have to answer the question. But
in fact I said this to Ben Ben

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Davis says, what's going on?
And did you how many people are?

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How many women have you fallen in
love with? Oh? Wait, you

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could say ten, five, two? Whatever? Did you fall in love?

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Did you marry the first one?
Did you marry the second one?

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Right? The third one? There's
more, there's more busses that come around

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that you don't even know if they
missed on them hard, they missed on

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the next kid, the kid that
might be going to Louisville. There's not

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a third guy. There's not a
fourth guy. Right, they're not a

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fifth guy. They'll be fine,
right? Do these do these guys who

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say I've this isn't the first time
I heard that he's being very selective?

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And who he offers? Do you
really know? Have you been in his

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in his office to see his recruiting
board, see how many guys he's recruiting

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and he's making offers suits? You
haven't, So what the hell do you

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say? Like I said yesterday the
day before when we went, let's go,

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I you're on the air and I
on the ball. How's it going

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today? Oh? We're mad?
I'm mad right now? No, I

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couldn't tell what Brian, Well,
hey, you know I think people are

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starting to panic for no real reason
whatsoever. I mean, I'm not surprised

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this guy went to Gonzaga. It
was either US or Gonzaga, you know.

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And and he went to a place
where he had family who went there

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and they know the system, and
you know, and even though Tommy Lloyd

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helped recruit him in the first the
brother the first place U went there,

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you know, he went there.
So there's there's there's two thousand other kids

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out there. We're gonna find some
people. People have to relax. You

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know. One thing too, we
don't need a lot of people. And

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people think we got to get nine
new guys, right right, We only

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need about two three people, two
or three good players exactly. We're out

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there somewhere exactly. Let me.
Let me see that, and we're gonna

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find him, because you know,
we're gonna find the guys who will fit

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into Tommy Lloyd's system. One thing
to this guard that went from Crayton to

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Gonzaga, he was a point guard. We already have a point guard.

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Yeah, let me see. I
don't know if this guy wanted to be

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the number two, the two guard
or not, but obviously he wants to

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be a point guard. Let me
say this. I think in the next

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day or so, or maybe a
little longer, that we'll find out that

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he uh that the will will have
received a few dollars to go, right.

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I'm sure, I'm sure he did. And that's the name of the

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day. You know. That's all
these kids are doing now. You know,

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it's like the color yesterday we talked
about, you know, Jake,

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when Dolora came here, and when
Dolora came here, they didn't have the

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big nil money yet. You know
right now, what would have happened if

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Glora would have stayed at Washington State
one year then left after this year?

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Yeah, you know right, he's
going to the highest bidder. Yeah.

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I think that's exactly right. And
people better get used to the idea.

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It's the highest bidder. Now,
if these people who complain I want to

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sit here and coffee up, come
twenty up a bunch of money, then

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maybe that'll help out. That's that's
where that's where I wanted to go with

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it. And we talked about this
yesterday with with Jay I said, Okay,

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anybody who comments, give twenty bucks
every time you comment on Facebook to

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bitch about it send twenty bucks to
you. Of a they need the money

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to pay for the nil. They've
got to coming from somewhere. If all

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the people who were considered about their
bitching here, here's another twenty bucks,

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it's like twenty dollars jar the twenty
dollars are you know? And one thing

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too, I think people have to
realize in about four or five years,

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NIF will change differently because what's going
to happen. These boosters who are paying

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all this money gonna find out they're
not getting at a large return on their

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money exactly exactly and there, and
they're gonna quit paying because they said,

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well, I paid you guys a
million dollars. What am I getting out

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of it? These in tickets?
Yeah. So this is what I also

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say to people over the last time. You've been a fan for a long

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time. I know this, Uh, since you've watched the NCAA tournament throughout

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the years, Uh, you haven't
hasn't proven that talent doesn't always win the

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game. Yeah, and Arizona has
experienced that first time. They've had the

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better plays on the floor pretty much
most most of the times since nineteen eighties.

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So you have to chase these five
stars, we've already gone through that.

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How did that go? Right?
You know? And I'm always I'm

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on wondering too in the last few
years, how much of these transfer n

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IL people are are becoming national champions. Not a lot of them, right,

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but they're I mean, they're they're
they're there for two reasons, when

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to collect the money and two to
move on to the next level, right

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right. And let's say, I
don't I don't blame them, but but

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the fans need to relax and say, Okay, it's not about Arizona's now

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about Tommy Lloyd. It's a about
the situation and not to Stephen, not

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not just the fan the media that
you know, there's some trusted media members

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out there who are seeing stupid stuff
and it's like, you know, people

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believe them for you know, people
believe you and me. Sometimes as ridiculous

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as that sounds, people believe you
and me. Sometimes people believe it is

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very scary because it's out there,
you know. You know, some of

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these guys know they have an audience, and so it's like, let let

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me be as stupid as I can
possibly be, and that that that's frustrating

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for me. You know, you
really wonder what would have happened if lud

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Olsen was coaching in this era,
would have quit immediately. We talked about

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that. We talked about that they
went to taking it much to get Okay,

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Brian, Hey, thanks a munch
man. Okay, Yeah, I

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like Brian's points all the way around. Um, it's gonna be about it.

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It's if it ain't know about the
money. It's about the money.

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It's about the money. It's about
the money. He would have had a

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better, not a better. He's
gonna be fine there. He would have

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been fine here, right, and
over the last twenty years, sorry to

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say this, Jay, Gonzaga has
been a bitter program. They happened.

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Of course, we've talked about that. I don't know if fans know that.

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Yeah, realized well maybe not last
year though right last year, you

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know, Gonzaga slipped a little Arizona
with you know when further in the tournament.

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Absolutely, But but you know,
the point being that, you know,

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if you want to if you want
to say he's a tailble recruiter,

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maybe you ought to wait to see
what he puts on the floor. Yeah,

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right, And if they if they
come out of the box, next

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year and they're losing game. They've
got new guys and they're not very good

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and they're losing. Now you say, okay, you know, bad job,

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bad job recruiting this last year.
But today, with sixty one wins

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under his belt in two seasons,
you're gonna call him a bad recruiter.

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You're full crap, Hi, you're
on the air on on the balls,

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Yeah about not getting that hard.
I don't think he was that big of

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a deal not coming here because he's
an average ball player. I don't see

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what the big attraction of him was
anyway. I mean, I I just

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saw him have some decent games,
nothing spectacular to me. I don't care

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if he hasn't come here. Wherever
we have enough average players here is you

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know, not enough. But I
don't think he would help the program that

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much by being here. And that's
and that's what we don't know. That's

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that's what we don't know. Because
but one of the things that that uh,

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you know, that we don't know
is how how would he have fit

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in here? And maybe that's why
he went to Gonzaga because maybe he didn't

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feel like you fitting here. Maybe
Tommy doesn't think he fits in here,

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but he went after him because he
had a relationship with the guy. Yeah,

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I mean he's a good he's an
act. He's an average ball player,

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I think, you know. And
he's too tall, Yes, he's

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pretty small. So yeah, and
um, you know, we'll be fine.

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The basketball team will be fine and
appreciate you guys shows always. And

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I think what we don't know is
what what everyone or what people perceived knowing

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well, they know because their plumbers
or their doctors or whomever, they know

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what's going on in somebody else's life. The basketball world, they really don't

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know. Ye, they really don't
know, but they can easily talk about

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it on Facebook or Twitter or whatever. Yeah. And I guess I need

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to realize left them and I do. I do. Um, Like I

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said, I got into it one
I just commented, uh, talking about

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fans, and I talked about it's
because they won the title twenty six years

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ago and here they are. Here, they are, many of them in

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their tens teens at the time,
are talking about this and he can't do

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the job, and that one victory, that one victory has them like they

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are the poop. Yeah, you
know. The thing for me, Steve

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is that, you know, because
you know a lot of what we talk

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about. You know, we see
what's up, we see what people are

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talking about it there on social media
or whatever, and we see what they're

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talking about it, and that's what
that's what we do with our show.

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And we talk about that stuff.
And I couldn't turn away. I knew

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I should turn away, but I
couldn't turn away. It's like about car

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crash. Yeah, I couldn't turn
away from it. So I can say,

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Okay, that guy's an idiot,
that guy's an idiot. That guy's

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an idiot, and that guy's an
idiot. Yeah. Let me also because

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again because the proof is right now, the proof is right, let me

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also see that we're not in the
alibi. At least I'm not in the

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alibi business. Tommy lawyer doesn't need
an alibi. Uh, let's see how

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this all plays out exactly. This
is day one in a long marriage and

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exactly, and these these people don't
want it to play out. They want

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to say, this is what we
know today, so he must suck.

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Yeah, it's a crazy time.
It's a crazy time. So many factors.

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Um, we'll see, we'll see
eventually. But today, when when

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that happened, and I posted something, and then some other people in the

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wildcat stuff, and I'm thinking,
really, really, it's that that important.

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Yes, I completely say I didn't
post anything because I was gonna do

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what I'm doing now. I was
gonna rant on somebody, and as I

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said, I'm just gonna leave it. We'll talk about it on the show,

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you know, because that's you know, that's our form, that's our

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platform. We'll talk about it on
the show. And if somebody that somebody

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that I've spoken about without mentioning their
names, is offended by that, fine,

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I have to go back and check. Yeah, to go back and

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check. I kind of know who
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Yeah, but it's stupid. It's
stupid. And the thing is, Steve,

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there's not one of these guys,
not a one of them who who

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who knows, you know, has
a pinki's worth of knowledge that Tommy Lloyd

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has you you're bringing out? Yeah, right, seriously, right, yeah,

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just Tommy Lloyd for gets more basketball
in his sleep than these guys have

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ever known. And that drives me
crazy because what it does, you know,

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That's one of the things that I
saw posted some some national guy post.

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If you want to see an absolutely
bad stuff crazy fan base, go

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look at the reaction to Tommy Lloyd
not getting who was it? Who's whose

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goodman? Uh? Kevin Sweeney from
College Basketball Central, Yeah, I don't

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know who that is. If you
want an illustration of how in Saint fan

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bases can be, go read whatever's
on the fans are saying about Tommy Lloyd

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this morning after one number one seed
and one number two seed is in two

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years as a head coach. And
that's what I'm saying. You've actually all

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this BS, you might have to
be careful with because because you were not,

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I've been close like four times that
the BS is gonna say, you

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know what, I don't need this
crap right right? Why would I go

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there is? Isn't that one of
the reasons. Hey, we gotta let's

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go get We're gonna talk more about
this with Jake Spish is going to come

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on. He's been out on social
media rat ratting on some of these people,

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which he should be and I appreciate, yeah, Jake doing that,

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and then in the second hour,
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He's Jakensas Now on the phone,
we have our usual Friday gifts. Jake

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Fisher and great sposor. Jake,
how are you? I'm doing well today.

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How are you feeling given what you've
seen on the internet today regarding basketball?

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Well, like we were talking about
before. Of course, that was

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one of the folks that was a
little pissed. I didn't go on there

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and say, oh my god,
everything is going to hell in a handbasket.

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If this guy's falling, the world's
gonna end, and that we're gonna,

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you know, end up eleven or
twelve see, like everybody else I

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saw. I just at first,
I was up set because I had heard

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for the last couple of weeks rumblings
that he was going there, and apparently

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at the very last second is when
he decided not to go. However,

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it's one of those things to where
if we would have landed him, it

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would have been a perfect start.
And I think everyone's getting frustrated because you

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have teams like you know, I
don't know Arkansas, who have already got

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my five or six transfer commits,
and they're just kind of taking anybody that

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they want. So Tommy looks a
little bit more laid back. He's gonna

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go ahead and focus on the guys
he knows could fit right in and basically,

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you know, do what they want
right away. I still think that

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there's gonna be some folks that go
into Portal a little bit late. I

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think that Tommy knows what he's doing. The only thing that I can see

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from you know, their standpoint is
maybe if we get you know, a

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more dynamic recruiter or something on,
you know, as an assistant coach,

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or maybe if we up to nil, which you know, the people that

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are complaining a lot of them probably
don't give, you know, to the

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NIOL stuff. But the other thing
is, you know, I think at

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the end of the day, I
think we somehow find out how to get

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a better roster than what we had
last year. You know, I mean,

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I think our starting point guard is
going to be better. We have

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a three that's going to be better
than he was last year. We have

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a five that's going to be better
than they were last year. We have

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probably two guys that are going to
come off the bench that are going to

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be a heck of a lot better, and who knows, they might be

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forced into maturing a little bit early. Not having them hard there is going

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to force Kylan to become who we
know, he's probably going to be a

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little bit earlier. And I just
think from an athletic standpoint, if we

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get more athletic with the type of
offensive system that we run, and we

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can get another maybe combo guard with
another wing, you know, maybe an

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athletic you know, I don't know, a power forward that can shoots.

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I know I'm asking a lot here, but I think that we're going to

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get it done with our bench that's
gonna be a little bit better than they

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will last year. It's getting,
you know, a little freshman that just

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came over from Europe. I think
we're gonna be fine. Well, And

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that's the thing again, you know. The bothersome thing to me, Jake,

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is that you know, Tommy's put
together two incredible seasons, sixty one

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wins, a number one seed and
number two seed. Granted it didn't go

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well in the ncable A Tournament,
but it's like he's not a good coach

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now because he didn't get this one
guy. And you can't recruit because you

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didn't get this one guy. They're
used to Sean Miller bringing in the top

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three class every year, and then
you'd have guys leave after one year transfer,

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you know what I mean. So
if you have when you get into

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the NC double A tournament, not
only is guard play very important, which

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I think we're still going to have
improved guard play, but another thing that's

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very important is having seasoned guys.
So if you have guys coming back for

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their second and third years, or
you're bringing in a couple of transfers that

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are a little bit older. That's
a good thing. Like that just what

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the transfer portal should be used for. Plugging it immediate play guys that are

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a little bit older that can make
an impact and that they're dynamic. And

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I think there's still going to be
guys out there. And you gotta remember,

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I think we got Cedric and Ramy
like in June or something last year,

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so we still have time. There's
still going to be good players leading

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in the portal. And who knows, maybe there's someone on you know,

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a lesser team right now that's looking
at Themhart, you know, not going

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to Arizona and saying, hey,
I think I'm pretty good. I would

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like to play in that system for
you know, the winning his head coach

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throughout his first two years. You
just never know. And I think these

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guys they're they're very calculated. They
leave options open and then you know,

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the future is still bright. kJ
Lewis is coming in next year. I

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think he's going to be a very
dynamic three or four year player, Televot

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defender. He's a little bit bigger
and stronger athletic. I think he can

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guard better than anyone we've had,
you know, alongside Kyl and Bob as

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well. And the other thing is
you're bringing in Jamari Phillips, who's a

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legit two or three year player who
is probably going to be able to light

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it up his second here when he
gets more comfortable in the system. And

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we still are supposed to land Carter
Bryant. And now that Themhart is leaving,

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if we bring in a senior for
that two guard position, who knows,

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don might reclassify, So there's still
a lot of options on the table.

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I just think, you know,
I was a little stunned at first

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as well, because we've been told
for three weeks this is the person that's

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coming, and then he left at
the last second. But then after you

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know, cooling my head off and
getting off Twitter, I'm like, well,

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you know what, his brother went
to Gonzaga's brother one's probably telling him

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to go to gonzag He probably wanted
who cares onto the next week, right

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and his brother who got to the
NBA through Gonzaga. I mean, yeah,

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and even though Tommy was a big
part of that, you never know,

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like, you know, my little
brother wanted to go to the U

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of A like I did, you
know, It's like you have brothers want

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to go where you know they're comfortable, and because he had probably been to

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quite a few games up at Gonzaga
and hung out with all of the coaching

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staff there, which I think the
only you know, new coach they have

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is the one that replaced Tommy and
the kids, you know, the guy

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from Florida State. But I mean
the entire support system there is probably very

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similar to what it was when his
brother went there. So so Jake where

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I know, you read all the
stuff and then shame on you, but

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but it is what it is.
Where do you think the fan base at

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Arizona went wrong? And I say
that reluctantly, But you know what I'm

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saying, why why have they become
so crazed? Well? I just think

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that a few years ago Sean Miller
had to bring in a bunch of guys

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you know, from overseas and from
uh, you know, Canada and whatnot

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to fill a roster because of the
FBI hanging over our head. And then

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that first year that coach Wood was
here, he had so much success that

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everyone has already you know, completely
tried to put us up in the blue

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Bloods like we're still a step down. We're not going to get there.

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For it's one of those things to
who knows, we may never get there.

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We might be a villanova that has
two or three championships while all the

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other blue bloods end up having seven, eight, nine, ten. Who

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knows. But the fact of the
matter is he's a hell of a coach.

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And you know, I think it's
just because it's been such a long

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drought since we've been to a Final
four. As soon as they saw that

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first year where you know, we
got to the sweet sixth team, and

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edges, with better guard play,
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opinion. But I mean, the
fact is he just took a roster that

406
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had no business being a two seed. And who knows, maybe we would

407
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not have been a two seed if
we would have been in a harder league,

408
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:41.599
even though we had all those big
time games where we beat good teams.

409
00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.000
But the fact of the matter is
he masked a lot of the deficiencies.

410
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.720
Wasn't a great defensive squad, wasn't
a very guard driven squad, wasn't

411
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:52.599
a very athletic squad, you know, and that's what happened to us against

412
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:56.960
Princeton. So you know, hey, bring us some more athletic guys.

413
00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:00.240
You're going to have some guys two
or three years in the system, better

414
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.400
guard play, and I want to
see how the system goes because he's kind

415
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.240
of doing the you know, the
mix and match thing like what lud Olson

416
00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:11.240
did, where you have guys here
two or three years and then remember when

417
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:14.000
Sean Miller first got here, and
he's sprinkling a bunch of you know,

418
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two three year players with a five
star that can jump in the starting lineup

419
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:21.039
right away. If we get a
Carter Bryant. We have some of these

420
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:22.519
guys that have been around for a
couple of years. I think we're going

421
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.240
to start getting back to that.
But you can't just recruit one and done's

422
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:27.759
like Sean Miller had to do for
the three or four year period and try

423
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:32.240
to mix them together. You need
good guard play, you need some athletes,

424
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:33.240
and then if you have a hold
of fill, you go out and

425
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:37.279
get one of those five stars,
or you go out and get an instant,

426
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.759
you know, performer in the transfer
portal. Yeah, so let me

427
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:44.279
ask you Oh, let me say
this, what if you don't get the

428
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:48.519
Brian kid been one, well,
everyone's gonna melt down again. And then,

429
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.480
you know, the only the only
reason he wouldn't come here is for

430
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.680
some reason he got some crazy backdoor
deal by Louisville. But from everything that

431
00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.279
I've heard, I mean the kid
cried, sorry, not the kid,

432
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:03.240
I'm getting old enough. The young
man cried when he got an offer from

433
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:07.039
coach Tommy Willard. I guess it
was a dream school. So yes,

434
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.559
I would be very surprised if he
didn't come here. But at the same

435
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:12.400
time, because of what just happened
with the them hard kid, I'm gonna

436
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:17.359
be a little bit numb. And
then hey, next next person up,

437
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:21.400
go find somebody else. Yeah,
And you just don't know, You just

438
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:23.519
don't know. You never do.
And recruiting because of the NIL is going

439
00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:26.960
to be a lot different. You
know. It's like, hey, you

440
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.000
know Louisville who only won four games
last year versus Tommy wod winning sixty one

441
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.960
games in his first two years.
Normally that would be a pretty good uh,

442
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:38.160
you know, you would know exactly
where he's going right now because Louisville

443
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:42.079
can drop him quite you know,
a lot of money. Then you know,

444
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.559
you just never know. Like I'm
still like all the sites, you

445
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:49.440
know, with them hard they were
saying Arizona one percent leak. Well guess

446
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:52.880
what all the sites are saying right
now for Carter the same damn thing.

447
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:59.319
So gear up exactly exactly. It
just I just I don't know, just

448
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.440
pissing me off, don't it din't
help people? And to tell you that

449
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:06.200
we talked about this yesterday too.
You have the Arizona fan base that are

450
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:10.200
okay, what Timmy, Timmy,
and then giving a little slack to Adia

451
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:11.880
who's going through the same stuff.
Right. You gotta get the players,

452
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.279
Gotta get the players, gotta coach
the players. I mean, it's two

453
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.880
kind of different dynamics. Well and
Adia's you know, Adia, the last

454
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.359
couple of classes have been kind of
like you know, the last couple of

455
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.079
Sean Miller class. Right, It's
like you have to completely reconstruct the entire

456
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:32.039
roster every year. And I like
if some of the players she's taking,

457
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:33.440
I think she's starting to take some
of these gals that are going to take

458
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:37.440
you know, roles better. They're
not just going to be, you know,

459
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:40.359
thinking that they're going to be a
starter and a star in two songs.

460
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:42.599
So, um, I think she's
going to figure it out. I

461
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:47.559
mean at that level, if you
get one person that can perform in march,

462
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.200
they can almost take you all the
way. You guys saw that with

463
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:56.839
Area, So you know, good
Guard played both ways. You have some

464
00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:00.279
folks that have been there, done
it, play defense and you have a

465
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.559
chance. Yeah. I hear you, man, I hear you. And

466
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.680
it's just but it's it's Look,
I'm the fan in the room here,

467
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.319
right, and it's just frustrating to
watch this the other fans, right,

468
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:15.400
Yeah, you watch what the other
fans do and like like like Steve,

469
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.640
you know, I mean, how
much of why look whether or not you

470
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:21.720
think Kirk Crissa should have stayed,
was a good player or whatever, how

471
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:25.680
much of why he left was because
of the fan base here? And just

472
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:30.359
you know, I don't know.
It just bothers me that that fan bases,

473
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.880
you know, are liked and can
be like that and with this,

474
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.359
with these platforms that they have,
and they make the rest of us look

475
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.240
bad. You know. Well,
Tommy Lloyd is trending on on on Twitter

476
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:45.000
right now literally because because this is
what I'll this is what I'll tell you.

477
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.440
I know that Tommy probably doesn't have
a Twitter. He does, I

478
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:52.640
don't think you can because you know, as players when you're young, sometimes

479
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.960
you read into your press clipping.
I can't tell you how many stupid crap

480
00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.519
I saw, you know, on
Twitter and Facebook and message as I got

481
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.039
from idiots that have never picked up
a basketball or football in their lifetime.

482
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:06.920
When I didn't have a great game
on when we lost as a team,

483
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:10.039
so um, you know, I
a fan telling me, I hope you

484
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.519
know they helped I broke my ankle. When I busted up my ankle gets

485
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.759
Washington my senior year, Like,
there are gonna be idiots like that.

486
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:19.640
You can't read into it. You
learn that after you're freshman year. So

487
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:22.839
if that's the reason he left,
and I, you know, I don't

488
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.039
know what to tell you. I
think it's just more of Kyland Boswell looking

489
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.160
to take the next step, and
we're looking to get another dynamic guard that

490
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:33.359
can do more than shoot, you
know, threes and run up the floor

491
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:37.279
and throw a pass over everyone else
is running. That's honestly what I think.

492
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:38.680
I think he's going to be a
good player, you know, I

493
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:44.960
just think that they want something more
and that's not a bad thing. Yeah.

494
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.160
Agree. And the other thing is, you know there's been rumblings about

495
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.359
some guys overseas a and I know
people don't like to hear that. I

496
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.279
think they start is going to be
I mean Tommy got Umar, you know,

497
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:59.160
and it took him a couple of
years to figure it out. Pellas

498
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.200
a guy from overseas, even though
he went to Utah first, we brought

499
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:05.160
him over here. Kurls was from
overseas, been math and was from a

500
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.480
different country. He went to rout
U, you know, playing the NBA

501
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:12.759
Mexico League. I think coming up
here, Christian Coloco saying, you can

502
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.920
find those guys. They're not going
to come in here and dominate from you

503
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.480
know, the first game. You're
not going to get you know, DeAndre

504
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:23.559
and r Marvin Bagley from up the
street in Phoenix or whatever. I could

505
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:28.279
do the same thing. So I've
heard that there are some guys overseas that

506
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.799
look like they're going to be an
even quicker contributor than you know, a

507
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:36.039
Vassar or whatever it might be.
And I mean tu Bellas remember his freshman

508
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:38.720
year, he had all the tools, but there were some games where the

509
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.640
defenses showed him stuff and he didn't
know how the heck to get to a

510
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.119
spot. And you know, he
got most of his points on fast breaks

511
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.039
and he just averaged twenty and ten
as a junior. So if you get

512
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.440
a few of these guys, you
sprinkling, you know, with some older

513
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:57.720
American guys whatever. But the fact
that you know, people all of a

514
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.119
sudden are like, you know,
you look it over Gonzago, the people

515
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.880
that he took there, and now
people all of a sudden are saying,

516
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:06.599
whoa, We just don't know if
he's got the eyes you know, for

517
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.039
prospects, and you know, blah
blah blah. It's like just stop.

518
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:13.160
You know, it's he's going to
fill out the roster, you know,

519
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.000
because of the loss in Netmart,
who knows we might be second sidle to

520
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:19.720
SC next year. I just still
know we have a better coaching staff.

521
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.720
But you're gonna have a couple of
young guys that are gonna be able to

522
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:24.720
come back. We're gonna have a
more athletic team than next year after that.

523
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:28.680
I hate to get ahead of myself, but when some of these really

524
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.720
young guys that are still here,
you know, that are all of Tony's

525
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:35.160
guys start getting here. I just
have a feeling it's going to be a

526
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.359
lot better. But I mean,
remember this last year, we lost two

527
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:42.920
guys to the NBA that we thought
were barely fringe, and then all of

528
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.359
a sudden, the NBA execs washed
him to go those guys are pretty good.

529
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.960
Let's give him some high grades.
And then they left, so we

530
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:51.920
had to fill into spots that he
thought he would be able to get back.

531
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:53.640
Yeah, and he's still got a
two seed. We got. Just

532
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:57.240
listening. I'll say on the record
now that you'll see a good a very

533
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.640
good player in Philippe, the kid
who set out this. You're very good

534
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to a three four guy. So
I think they'll be fine. They'll be

535
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with Steve Ribera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox

609
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Sports fourteen fift days. Hey,
welcome back to it on the bar here

610
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Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jagon's office. If you'd like

611
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to call us in complain or tell
us we'd complain too much, so let

612
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us know five two four seventy four
forty. The good thing is we have

613
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about thirteen minutes. We're gonna talk
to Dave hekey on the west side.

614
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:39.159
Uh, maybe talk to him a
little about this, especially with the nil

615
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:44.559
Having talked to Adam Lazaris this week
just to see, you know, the

616
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time and the place in the field
of the cot you know. And Dave

617
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:51.079
and I had a brief conversation.
He was he was the NCAA rep at

618
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:52.840
the West region that I was working
up in Vegas, and we just had

619
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:55.639
a brief conversation because it was the
day that it was right after a Dia

620
00:39:55.679 --> 00:40:00.519
Barnes lost like five players in two
days, right and and the conversation basically

621
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:06.039
was this is this is what it
is. It is not just here and

622
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:07.519
that you know, you may lose
a guy and you think, you like,

623
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:10.719
it's not because you did a bad
job recruiting it. You lost the

624
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:14.760
guy because maybe somebody handed this guy
sure a whole bunch of money or something,

625
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:16.440
you know. Uh b. John
Robinson was on Dan Patrick. I

626
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:20.840
saw that had a conversation about all
his Ni l stuff, you know,

627
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.639
talking about his Lamborghini and the Mustard, you know, all these things that

628
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:27.480
he got. You know, he's
getting a suit for the you know,

629
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for the for the draft and stuff. It's like it's a whole new world

630
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:34.760
for these guys too. No,
you just like they're they're making decisions like

631
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:37.440
it's a financial decision on top of
being where do I want to play this

632
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:40.639
question? The one thing I got
out of that interview with him was he's

633
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:45.199
only visited two teams. Yeah,
you two teams and the rest are on

634
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:47.280
zoom, which was that's how we
looked at it. But still I saw

635
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:52.000
did you see the ESPN story on
him? Generational type of running back?

636
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.360
Who? Who? Who's living in
the wrong generation? Right? Because they

637
00:40:54.400 --> 00:41:00.320
don't because there's no value in those
running backs. They're saying, you know,

638
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:02.719
back in the day, he's the
top five pick and he's probably gonna

639
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:06.440
go late first round. Yeah,
you know the thing somebody like that.

640
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.800
The Eagles who were in the Super
Bowl are gonna be able to get him.

641
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:12.599
Be thirty gonna beat thirty, right
right? I wish I had his

642
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.719
problems. We guys name yeah,
yeah, yeah, So no, that's

643
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:20.159
if you want to call in again. Five two, four, seventy four,

644
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:22.639
forty we're still talking to Maybe we're
complaining a little bit too much about

645
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.400
the people, but it's I've come
out there, you've come down. You

646
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:34.199
must. I did go to the
bathroom. My head was exploding. I

647
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:38.360
had I did relieve some pressure.
I didn't relieve some pressure talking about stupid

648
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:42.639
stuff. Hey it's Friday, man. Yeah, I'll I'm a little about

649
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.039
my wife's gone out of town.
What to do, I'm about myself.

650
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:49.159
Welcome to my world. I'm han't
been tonight for sure. You make it.

651
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.320
Buy something, Okay, I'll leave
to go to a restaurant because there's

652
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:57.039
a nice when it was meat markets
over by the best the best one.

653
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:01.599
Okay. Uh so another. We'll
keep talking about this until we don't.

654
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:06.559
Recruiting has gone crazy. You know, the guy that I really loved,

655
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.519
I don't know if he's in the
transfer fort. The the center for Princeton

656
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:14.280
would be perfect, you know,
like the guy that kind of ran they

657
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:19.079
ran everything right, who a nondescript
player who just can remind me of Luke

658
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.840
Walton, but more athletic. Why
are you leaving Princeton to go to He's

659
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.440
done because you can only play four
years? Oh so he was ga G

660
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:29.280
And I don't know a situation.
But I love those type of players who

661
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:32.480
kind of fit in and just make
things they do again, they do what

662
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:37.000
they do, and that fits with
every and when you piece it together with

663
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:38.639
everything else. Right. And we
talked about this the other day about that

664
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:43.239
being the ninety seventeen correct that not
a bunch of stars. Yeah, Mike

665
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:45.480
Baby was a star, Sure,
Moss Simon was a semi star. Dickerson

666
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:51.119
was was really good until but all
those pieces, you know, Jason Terry

667
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:55.039
coming off the bed, you know
AJ Bramlett, uh Gen Edgerson and and

668
00:42:55.159 --> 00:43:01.000
uh, you know they're jumping out
of the gym, Bennett, Bennett,

669
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:05.519
Davidson, you know, guys who
probably might not start at a lot of

670
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:08.159
other schools. But yet all those
pieces melt together into a national chat at

671
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.559
the right time, right place.
Yeah, you no questions, and then

672
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:14.280
you know they got better the year
later. And and to me, that's

673
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:16.000
the kind that's the kind of coach
Tommy Lloyd isn't. I wish people would

674
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:22.360
realize again, these are the people
that were complaining Sean Miller was getting nothing

675
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.079
but five stars, couldn't hold them
together, couldn't win with them. And

676
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:30.000
now they're you know, wanted them
to change his strategy, and now they

677
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.119
got Tommy Lloyd who's going out and
getting guys that fit what he does.

678
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:35.920
They're not all five stars, and
they're losing their minds when he doesn't get

679
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:39.519
them. Jay maybe they're just complainers. Maybe those guys are just complainers.

680
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:43.199
They can't they can't figure it out. So what are you gonna say,

681
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:46.920
Well, let's complain. I think
I'll hate their own lives the therapist,

682
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.079
you know, it's it's like,
what do you want? Well, you

683
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.960
can't make everybody happy. I realized
a long time ago you just can't.

684
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.760
And I'm gonna probably take names and
whatever, and when the when he's twenty

685
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:05.440
twenty and one, next year,
eighteen and two or whatever, calling everybody

686
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:07.239
out, What the hell? What
did a few months ago? You were

687
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:14.800
like pooping all over the place,
were calling everybody out Hi on the air

688
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:19.679
and on the ball, Hey Jay, um Steve, this is John.

689
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:23.880
I think that's uh one of the
big problems with Arizona fans, especially those

690
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:28.679
of us that grew up here,
and you know this, Jay, They're

691
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:34.719
always gonna lose. They're always gonna
break our hearts. We never we never

692
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.239
win the big one. And it's
like I said the other day about you're

693
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:44.800
not a head coach until you are
a head coach. You're you're gonna you

694
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:47.440
know, until they stopped breaking our
hearts. That's what it's gonna be.

695
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:52.320
And the people are gonna act pessimistic. But see if John, I think

696
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.519
this is I think this is the
opposite is that they have won a championship.

697
00:44:55.599 --> 00:45:00.719
The basketball team has won a championship, So we have we want ninety

698
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:07.880
seven, ninety seven, twenty five
years that five years I know no more.

699
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:13.280
But that's no, that's Arizona done. Stopped on this. Arizona is

700
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.119
not that Arizona I know, but
that that's the point I'm about to make,

701
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:20.519
is that they win this championship twenty
five years ago, and this fan

702
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:25.280
base, because of that, twenty
five years later, twenty six years still

703
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:31.519
feels entitled. They feel entitled that
you know that they think it should it

704
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:37.119
should be easy at Arizona, and
it's not. And that's that's the problem.

705
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:39.760
It's not. It's not easy anywhere. Like the point you guys have

706
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:50.159
been making about teams with chemistry are
getting over all these talented teams done.

707
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:52.559
Let me ask you a quick question. I don't I've never asked your age.

708
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:55.960
Can you say your age or near? Give me a ballpark? Okay?

709
00:45:55.679 --> 00:46:00.360
If done? Okay, So in
the fifty seven years, maybe forty

710
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.960
or whatever, you've been at UFAN, how many times have they not broken

711
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:12.480
your heart once? It's it's half
and half because you're gonna be happause,

712
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:19.559
you know what, on Saturdays in
the fall when we go to play Ucla,

713
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:25.039
we are outmanned every single time.
But what's our record against Ucla?

714
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:30.320
Those guys fight like wildcats and we're
you know, we're always competitive with those

715
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:35.719
guys, even though they always have
better football players than we do. So

716
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:38.039
your point is, your point is
not all the time has your heart been

717
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:45.039
broken? Well, not all the
time. In basketball, when once we

718
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:49.559
started getting all these five these rent
rent of five star guys that we've been

719
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:57.320
getting, I've just completely ignored recruiting
and everything else. The part that one

720
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:01.719
thing that I don't like is people
whining about us not getting a guy from

721
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:07.280
Cranton. Really, that's a mid
major. I don't care how good they

722
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:13.639
were this year. That is a
career mid major school, and we shouldn't

723
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:15.320
be we shouldn't be going, oh
man, we got that guy from East

724
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:20.559
Tennessee State, So what well they're
talking about good is he? How good

725
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.519
is he? If that's where he
started out? Yeah, no, I

726
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:27.599
hear you. My point was I
would have said, I would have thought

727
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:31.519
you to say every year until ninety
seven and every year since because you know,

728
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:35.880
hell no, Because I'll tell you
what Steve, in my opinion,

729
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.519
eighty eight is still the best team
Arizona has ever had. Now we get

730
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:43.320
fighting words. No, I don't
disagree. I'm gonna tell you because you

731
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:47.360
know what ninety seven looks like.
It is better, but eighty eight to

732
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:52.679
one that started it. And those
guys were like those five glad guys played

733
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:57.039
like one guy. They were.
It was one mind between the five of

734
00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:01.119
them. No U, no question, no question again. I'll tell you

735
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:06.719
that I was at the airport after
the Great Alaska Shootout. I was at

736
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:10.960
I was in Chale Center when they
came back after being North Carolina. I

737
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:17.159
was. I mean, so it's
I'm but you know what the thing is

738
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:22.320
what general fans need to think about, and I don't usually do. It's

739
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:27.840
the final four. Getting to the
Final four is a pretty big deal.

740
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:31.880
Yeah right, And it's hard.
Out of three hundred and some teams,

741
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:37.679
you're the you're one of the last
four standing. That is humnkus and it's

742
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:43.199
hard. Look at there's a voice
of reason who appreciate reason. I'm thankful

743
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.599
that we don't break your heart,
and and and and the thing is is

744
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:52.280
up until ninety seven, I think
my heart would get broken before that and

745
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:57.800
not since then. I think I
got relaxed with you got one right,

746
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:02.719
Yeah, because I honestly I'm to
get a little bit of get off my

747
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:10.840
lawn. I don't want to see
my city burn. I don't want anue

748
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:14.880
district to be burned down and then
there's no place to go. Right,

749
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:19.440
it's so nice now too, there's
that. Let's set the sun link on

750
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:22.280
fire. Hey, don thanks a
bunch man, have a great weekend,

751
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.880
the may the mayor thanks you.
The chief of police station, so does

752
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:31.119
the chief of the fire department.
I mean that's realistic. I mean,

753
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:36.559
come and do my friends did with
a Lobo land. They've always had their

754
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:39.599
hearts broken? How many times my
heart has been broken? Never? Because

755
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:43.679
I don't if you don't, I
get their their love for their team.

756
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:46.039
I get, But come on,
there's a point of going too far.

757
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:51.920
Yes, yeah, And you know
the funny thing is with me, basketball

758
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:55.880
doesn't break my heart. Football does. Football does, but basketball does not.

759
00:49:57.280 --> 00:49:59.360
And I don't know if it's because
I'm you know, so close to

760
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:04.039
it with what I you, but
it doesn't and it never has. Um

761
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:07.679
do I get you know, do
I get like frustrated or mad or whatever

762
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:12.679
to a certain level football or basketball? Not near as how I get mad

763
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.320
at you know, Africa. You
know when when there's a last any of

764
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:19.800
you yeah, you know Jets.
First year, I wanted to set a

765
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:22.400
car on fire. You know,
I was so mad. It's just not

766
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:23.960
your car, not my car,
somebody else's car. You know, I

767
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:27.840
was really upset. Let's take this
real quick, because we got about till

768
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:30.719
minute and half. You got about
twenty second. Hi, you're on the

769
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:35.039
air. You got thirty Hey,
I heard you talking to the caller that

770
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:39.599
was talking. Uh, Colorado won
a national championship in the nineties, and

771
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:44.280
football, where are they at?
Right? So, in other words,

772
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:47.000
when you guys said we won a
championship in nineteen ninety seven, that's just

773
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:51.679
ancient history. I totally agree,
totally agree. I've been saying that for

774
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:54.360
years. But do you agree?
But do you agree that that that that

775
00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:59.639
has made the fans entitled like they
should win one every year because they've won

776
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:04.280
one. No, but look at
you card. You can start winning championships

777
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.400
in nineteen ninety nine and they got
five, but don't tell you. We

778
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:13.880
gotta get off that. We won
a championship in nineteen in history. Agree,

779
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:15.079
agree with you. Hey, thanks
for the car. We appreciate it.

780
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:17.880
We gotta go listen as always.
Yeah, alright, No, he's

781
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:22.199
right. We've been saying this forever. Yeah, I know enough enough,

782
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:25.440
all right. You know I dated
a supermodel once. I'm not entitled.

783
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:30.960
I'm breathing better, although that never
really happened. I'm breathing better. Yes,

784
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:32.239
it's Friday, man, I don't
want my Friday to be all messed

785
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:36.400
up. Yeah, because you're gonna
be solo eating Manuna, Go get big,

786
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:43.480
Jim Man. How good is that? I loved? I love that?

787
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:45.239
Okay, I love that. Cool. All right, let's take our

788
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.880
last break of the hour. We're
gonna come back all kinds of breaking news

789
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:52.559
involving some you have a guys and
those kinds of things. Um and Dave

790
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:55.480
Hicky joining us at about uh at
about four twenties, So stick around for

791
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:59.159
all that. Lots more to come
on the show. We'll be right back. He