1 00:00:02,359 --> 00:00:07,360 Yes, off a weekend that is seen the silly Lomachenko reassert himself with a 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:12,080 dominant performance and win to recapture a portion of the lightweight title. It is 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:18,320 a weekend that has also seen a horrific ring announcer mistake in Australia. Rayfield 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,800 can't wait to launch on this a weekend that has also seen an Olympic gold 5 00:00:23,839 --> 00:00:27,039 medalist from Wales, a female, Lauren Price, look dominant. We've got 6 00:00:27,079 --> 00:00:29,600 lots of recap, we got news, we got nostalgia. It's the Fight 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,200 Freaks Unite recap podcast. Hello. I'm the somewhat competent host TJ. Reeves. 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,960 He is our insider Dan Rayfield from Big Fight Weekend dot com and also 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,000 his substack. 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We've 34 00:02:08,319 --> 00:02:13,319 been working hard for two plus years now to give you a preview going into 35 00:02:13,319 --> 00:02:16,120 the weekend Thursday night into Friday, recap on Sunday night into Monday. Here 36 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:22,479 we are rate us, review us, sign up, subscribe, follow, 37 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,639 Apple, Spreaker, Spotify. With that, I think the blinking headline is 38 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,520 Walmachenko appeared to be back. I have to confess I was not watching live 39 00:02:30,599 --> 00:02:34,719 in the middle of the night my anniversary and Mother's Day weekend, but I've 40 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:38,560 seen the recaps. I've seen the highlights. He looked pretty dominant, and 41 00:02:38,759 --> 00:02:42,319 from what I read, he was pretty dominant. You're the best one to 42 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:46,759 speak to it. How good did he look in Cambosa's, his home country, 43 00:02:46,199 --> 00:02:50,960 in this win at his advanced age to get back in the lightweight title 44 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,680 picture as he's now done. Well, you said that Womachenko is back and 45 00:02:54,879 --> 00:03:00,599 I never thought that he had left. So I mean, he lost a 46 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:02,159 couple of huge fights. But I know what you mean. Well, I 47 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:07,840 mean the huge fight that he lost against ti Fimo Lopez is now four years 48 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,240 ago. And I'm not taking anything away from tia Fimo's victory on that night 49 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:16,280 because he won the fight, no problem. But it's a fact that Lomachenko 50 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:22,479 had souldier surgery after that fight, so he was compromised in the fight and 51 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:25,639 it was still very close he'd you know, and that the same problem. 52 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,719 And they talked about this a little bit on the broadcast and they were dead 53 00:03:28,759 --> 00:03:31,719 on, you know, Timothy Bradley and Joe tessitur that when he lost to 54 00:03:31,759 --> 00:03:36,120 t Fmo Lopez fight, he just never got it out of first gear until 55 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:38,759 the second half of the fight, and he gave away so many the close 56 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,479 rounds. Even when he was coming on late, there just wasn't enough rounds 57 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:43,319 to catch up. And if you take a look at what happened in the 58 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,400 Devin Hainey fight, which is the other loss that could have easily gone the 59 00:03:46,439 --> 00:03:50,719 other way, that was another fight where he lost on the on the slimmest 60 00:03:50,719 --> 00:03:53,159 of margins. But in a fight where he probably gave away some of those 61 00:03:53,159 --> 00:03:58,680 early rounds. So it's Costo, I mean not Rather, it's cost Lomachenko 62 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:00,879 when he started a little bit late. He didn't wait to do that against 63 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:05,080 George Cambosa's He came out in the very first round and started pushing him back 64 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:10,639 and letting his combinations go and and uh. And he was there not to 65 00:04:10,719 --> 00:04:13,520 fight from round five on, or six on, or seven on. He 66 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,759 was there to fight from the opening belt. I don't think he wanted to 67 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,639 leave it to the judges in Australia, knowing what happened to him. In 68 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,800 his mind, he believes he was robbed against them and any I don't have 69 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:27,879 that personal viewpoint. I personally had that fight to draw. So yeah, 70 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,120 he had some tough losses, but the Haini loss, yeah, he got, 71 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,040 he got, he got the the other guy got the hand raised and 72 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,040 he didn't get the belts. But that was as close as a guest. 73 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:40,279 So his thing has really been injuries in the layoffs. Obviously, the the 74 00:04:40,319 --> 00:04:44,720 Tiafimo or not Timo. I keep saying that the George Cambosis fight between Lomachenko, 75 00:04:45,079 --> 00:04:49,360 that fight was supposed to happen back right before the war started between Russia 76 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:54,360 and Ukraine. If you remember, he was supposed to go to Australia to 77 00:04:54,480 --> 00:05:00,240 challenge for the belts that Cambos has had. When he bailed out for these 78 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,879 reasons to serve his country. It was then Haney that took the opportunity made 79 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:10,240 it for the four belt unification. So this is a fight that for Loma 80 00:05:10,319 --> 00:05:14,439 and for Camboss has sort of been a long time coming. I thought he 81 00:05:14,439 --> 00:05:18,079 looked spectacular. Look I've said from day one, I've covered Lomachenko's entire career, 82 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,040 been ringside for many of his fights. I know people are going to 83 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,360 look at it and say, well, you know, how is he that 84 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,600 he's only eighteen and three and he's lost a couple of fights. I'm like, 85 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,399 dude, you just don't know if you watch what this man has done 86 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,120 and you put it in the context of the incredible amateur career that he had 87 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:39,439 three hundred and ninety six and one lost avenge, two gold medals in the 88 00:05:39,439 --> 00:05:44,839 Olympics, multiple other big time amateur medals, gold medals. He's one of 89 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,759 the most skillful, you know, matrix like spighter that you'll see he is 90 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,360 Roy Jones ish in that sense, and I dare say that on his best 91 00:05:54,439 --> 00:05:56,480 night. And I've been ridiculed for this, and I don't really care. 92 00:05:56,759 --> 00:05:58,959 I will stand by this. I'm not saying he would win, but I 93 00:05:58,959 --> 00:06:02,439 have made the point before been punished about it that at one hundred and thirty 94 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,560 pounds, the best version of Lomachenko and the best version of Floyd Mayweather is 95 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,720 an even type of fight. And I say that that's fair, that's fair. 96 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,000 You hear it again. You're not saying he's better than him. You 97 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,240 said even fight. You'd love to see it one hundred percent. I think 98 00:06:18,319 --> 00:06:21,879 is a highly competitive, very fascinating, interesting fight, and that on a 99 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,480 given knight, that both guys would have a chance to win. Lomachenko is 100 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,160 a supremely special talent. He's a first ballot Hall of Famer, and if 101 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,519 there is any doubt about it, just he racks up another world title belt. 102 00:06:33,519 --> 00:06:36,680 I believe that's his sixth world title over three different weight classes, from 103 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:42,040 one twenty six, one, thirty one, thirty five. Uh And frankly 104 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,240 it it other than him getting the stoppage in the eleventh round, the fight 105 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:50,040 was kind of what I expected. I figured Cambosis is a game fighter. 106 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,639 He's got a heart and he tries, but he's not a big puncher. 107 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,120 He's pretty one dimensional. He doesn't have a huge amount of speed. His 108 00:06:58,199 --> 00:07:02,319 defense is just sort of like medio and he was played with by Devin Haney 109 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:05,560 over twenty four rounds in two fights, had no prayer. He did get 110 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,279 the win that he's been making a living off of against Lopez, a fight 111 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:14,399 in which Lopez, similar to the way that Lomachenko was compromised when he lost 112 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:17,480 to Ti Femo, Ti Femo was compromised when he lost to Cambos's in that 113 00:07:17,519 --> 00:07:24,959 fantastic fight. And the one fight that Cambosis had after he defeated, not 114 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,680 defeated, but after he had the Hainy fights, he got what many of 115 00:07:28,759 --> 00:07:30,560 you was a gift against Maxi Hughes. That was a fight that he easily 116 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,240 could have been on the losing side of that particular fight. So he's made 117 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:41,240 good for him huge amounts of money living off that one victory. He's like 118 00:07:41,319 --> 00:07:44,560 today's day, you know, back when I first started, the guy that 119 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:47,199 made a living off of one big win and made millions and millions and millions 120 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,879 of dollars off one great win, but never won another big fight. The 121 00:07:49,879 --> 00:07:54,439 rest of his career was Hassim Rockman. He knocked out Lennox Lewis and that 122 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:59,959 spectacular one punch knockout to win the heavyweight championship, got obliterated in the remat 123 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,399 but still continue to fight major fights and make major money against big names and 124 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:07,079 never won another big fight. I mean lost again to David two, lost 125 00:08:07,079 --> 00:08:11,560 to John Ruiz right on and right now. Cambos Is is kind of in 126 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,040 that position, you know, good guy, but is not got the level 127 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:20,480 of skill to get over the hump of somebody that's supremely talented and healthy. 128 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,639 It seems to me like a Maceili Lomachenko. So it was a brilliant performance. 129 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,680 I gave every single round of the fight to Cambosis, I mean to 130 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:33,039 Lomachenko rather two. A couple of the judges gave Cambos's, you know, 131 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:35,120 a couple of rounds here and there, but he basically was down going into 132 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:39,240 that last round. I think he had gotten like one round or two rounds 133 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,320 at most. And the body punching, let's talk about the body punching, 134 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:48,679 Yes, sensational body punching from Lomachenko, who just was It wasn't just like 135 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:52,320 shots like the knockout and the knockdown prior to the knockout. He was really 136 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:56,039 stepping in with those left hands. I mean, just as brutal as they 137 00:08:56,039 --> 00:09:01,519 get, just rough right, digging in and the perfect spot. And uh, 138 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,639 the reff was calling the fight just as George Singer, which is the 139 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,720 father of George and the assistant trainer. You know, he's thrown in the 140 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,200 towel enow his son was done. And uh, you know, I give 141 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:13,919 kem bo's' credit though he didn't complain, he made the point. Look, 142 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,159 you know, I may not have won the fight, but I always stepped 143 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,080 up to fight the best guys and you can't. Yeah, right, and 144 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:24,000 I you know, And it's a credit to negotiation because they had the automatic 145 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:28,080 rematch clause with Haney. He's done enough to hang around in the IBF rankings 146 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,480 to get this fight. But Lomachenko's a world class fighter, and you and 147 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,240 I analyzed it that way. We broke it down that way, all right. 148 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:35,960 So that leads us to the next part of this. If he's on 149 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,720 the ascension here in that division, what is next the names kicked around or 150 00:09:43,039 --> 00:09:48,360 the likes of Shakur. Stevenson, Gervonte Davis on social media has even alluded 151 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,360 to this, I'll believe that when I see it. But still that's an 152 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,360 intriguing name. So what, in your opinion, what do you think is 153 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:58,000 potentially next? Because let's be honest, as good as he looked with the 154 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,720 case you just laid out against Cambosa's who's you know again a questionable world you 155 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:09,000 know, world championship fighter? How many more years at thirty six with all 156 00:10:09,039 --> 00:10:11,639 this tread off the tires? Do we have Lomachenko? How long is he 157 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,159 gonna have to wait for significant fight? So go ahead, Well, I 158 00:10:13,159 --> 00:10:16,240 don't think he's gonna have to wait because it's gonna be his next fight. 159 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:18,279 It's gonna be something significant. He's not gonna come back and defend against just 160 00:10:18,279 --> 00:10:22,360 a regular old opponent. And are you encouraging me that I could get Lomachenko 161 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:26,919 Shakur like in the winter and like November December. No, let's back up 162 00:10:26,919 --> 00:10:30,399 for a second, because he has the IBF title and I'm not sure where 163 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,399 it stands in terms of their mandatory situation. But if he signs for a 164 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:39,159 unification fight, then the mandatory will take a back seat because within the IBF 165 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,919 rules, if as long as you're within the time frame before they order the 166 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:46,480 mandatory, it's automatic you get the pass to do the unification. So that's 167 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:48,679 a good thing in terms of him having the IBF title. Now, if 168 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,879 you take a look at the landscape, he's got the IBF title. Next 169 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:56,639 week on May eighteenth, we will see Emmanuel never at Tay against Baroncheck. 170 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,840 They will fight for the vacant WBO title. Lomachenko and never atte are both 171 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:05,080 with top break. Never ATI's the big favorite, so that's one possibility the 172 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,840 winner you have. In July sixth, you got Shakhor Stevenson making his first 173 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:16,639 offense of the WBC title against Harttunian in Newark, another ESPN card. Now 174 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,480 that is going to be the final fight of Shakor's top rank contract. But 175 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:22,399 that's not to say that he can't do a short term deal or you know, 176 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,320 come up with something and stay with them or you know, for that 177 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:28,960 type of opportunity, that would be a very significant fight. And you just 178 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,440 mentioned the other title holder in the weight class, which is WBA title holder. 179 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,759 See me. Look when Hani became undisputed, and now we moved up 180 00:11:35,759 --> 00:11:39,080 to one hundred and forty where he's got one of the belts, all the 181 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,360 belts splintered when they've all been filled in as we've gone. So, uh, 182 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:46,159 if Gervante Davis is staying on his social media that he's interested in that, 183 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,919 and he's never mentioned that before. It's always been, you know, 184 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,799 no interest in you. If you remember a few years ago, Floyd Mayweather 185 00:11:52,799 --> 00:11:54,440 when he was promoting Gervonte, which he doesn't anymore, was talking about how, 186 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,519 you know, we're not doing that fight. They're looking to age. 187 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:03,200 That's a lily Lomachenko out correct. So he's got the fight on June fifteenth 188 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,039 against Frank Martin. So I don't think there's gonna be any decisions made about 189 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,440 what the next fight is for Lomachenko until a few things play out. We're 190 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,679 gonna see what happens next week. We'll probably see what happens in June, 191 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,519 which is, you know, barely a month away, and maybe even wait 192 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:18,720 until July, and so we'll see what happens with all three of those fights. 193 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,919 And they all know, by the way that a significant fight for any 194 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,279 of those three guys is Lomachenko. There's no doubt about it. He does 195 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,600 have a popularity. He does bring a lot to the table. You know, 196 00:12:31,799 --> 00:12:35,200 Chakor and Tank against each other would probably be a pretty big fight. 197 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:39,200 But I'm not sure that any of those guys against Navarette is as big of 198 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,399 a deal as Lomachenko. Lomachenko. Really, other than Tank, who's the 199 00:12:41,399 --> 00:12:46,639 biggest name, the next best guy in terms of bringing the money and bringing 200 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:50,039 the eyeballs is Lomachenko. And he's willing to fight anybody, like he said 201 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,840 him and again he's never run from anybody. This guy was willing to fight 202 00:12:52,879 --> 00:12:56,960 whoever, no matter what I mean. You have to understand when he turned 203 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,399 pro, I've said this before. Yeah, he wanted to make money like 204 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:03,159 any profession, but he was never about the money. He knew the money 205 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,360 would come along with the titles and the victories and the accomplishment. He was 206 00:13:07,399 --> 00:13:11,519 all about I want titles as quickly as possible and as many weight classes as 207 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:15,799 I can handle physically. That was all he was about. I mean, 208 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,320 I wrote my story on the prefight story on this about how when he turned 209 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,480 professional and he met with top rank, he wasn't looking for some gigantic, 210 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,399 crazy bonus. I mean, he hain't got money. Obviously, he got 211 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:30,600 nice minimums, but his whole thing was opportunity. Forget about the bonus. 212 00:13:30,879 --> 00:13:33,200 Bob Aaron, can you get me a world championship fight in my pro debut? 213 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,879 Bob was like, listen, can't do it in your pro debut. 214 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,679 We can probably get something in your second fight. So in his first fight, 215 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,360 they fought a reputable contender, a ten round fight for a regional belt, 216 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,960 which he won, and then in his second fight he fought for a 217 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,440 world title. He lost in a fight against Orlando Solito where Solito did not 218 00:13:50,519 --> 00:13:54,840 make the weight, got stripped, and then proceeded to hit him low about 219 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,879 five thousand times without any warring from the referee, in a fight that I 220 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,000 was ring site for it. I remember this specifically. I was sitting next 221 00:14:01,039 --> 00:14:03,639 to Kevin Iol and Kevin Ili were keeping track of the low blows because it 222 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:07,120 was so blatant and so ridiculous. So he lost that fight on his split 223 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:13,080 decision. In his third professional fight, he toyed and easily defeated the undefeated 224 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,799 Olympian Gary Russell Junior to win the vacant title that he was allowed to fight 225 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,080 for again after what happened with Sledo. A guy and at that time, 226 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,919 Gary, who was a brilliant prospect and up and comer, was twenty I 227 00:14:22,919 --> 00:14:26,000 think he was twenty four to Oher had tremendous you know, advantages in terms 228 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:30,360 of the number of pro fights, and Lomachenko took him to school and then 229 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,399 he went on and that became. With that victory, he tied the record 230 00:14:33,399 --> 00:14:35,639 for the fewest fights needed to win a world title, and then he did 231 00:14:35,679 --> 00:14:39,639 it. That guy's got a Hall of Fame resume. We know absolutely we 232 00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:41,879 need the same thing in terms of fewest fights to win in two divisions to 233 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,720 unify, et cetera. Just a brilliant fighter. So you ask who should 234 00:14:46,759 --> 00:14:50,000 be next? Look, if Tank is serious, that's the biggest fight that 235 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:54,320 Loma could have financially. I kind of suspect that we'll maybe se him against 236 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,600 Navarette, which is a probably a much more a makable sign up, sign 237 00:14:58,639 --> 00:15:05,000 me up, fascinating style matchup with the length and the size difference, but 238 00:15:05,039 --> 00:15:09,320 the skills and the speed, and they both are you know, good punchers, 239 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,240 although I reserve my opinion about the punching power of Navarette until I see 240 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:16,639 him fight as a lightweight, and obviously you can't count out Baronchek was also 241 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:22,519 undefeated and an Olympian and a good fighter himself. But even with Hani leaving 242 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:26,360 the division, even with Tiafima, Lopez leaving the lightweight division you know in 243 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:28,960 recent past, and then other fighters who have gone up and wait, Ryan 244 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,799 Garcia leaving the weight class, those types of names that have left the division 245 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,480 in the last couple of years. The fact that you've got still Navarete who's 246 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,440 come up to the division, Chacor who's come up into the division. Lomachenko 247 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:46,320 was still there, and Gervante Davis. That's for the most interesting names and 248 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,799 guys in that division that all do different sort of things. Lomachenko the cure 249 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,600 you know, technician, but punch is also he got the defensive minded, 250 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,360 brilliant tactician in Shakur, you know, the big, big puncher in Davis 251 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,679 and Navarette, you know, with the crazy angles and the all action style. 252 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,080 I mean, there's a lot of fun fights that you can make in 253 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,480 that weight class. And Lomachenko, by virtue of this win, he puts 254 00:16:08,559 --> 00:16:11,360 some stuff right in the middle of all that, and as far as what 255 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,639 happens with cambosis, you know, I don't know what he's gonna do in 256 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:15,960 the future, but you've got a figure he's not retiring. He did make 257 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,000 another seven figure payday the other night. The one fight that's sitting there for 258 00:16:19,039 --> 00:16:22,159 him at some point in time, I don't know when that's gonna be. 259 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:26,519 They'll always have that rematch with Tifi Malopez in the back pocket. Someday could 260 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:30,759 happen for him. But there you go on what the prospects are, and 261 00:16:30,799 --> 00:16:33,399 there's a lot of good ones for Lomachenko. Can we have good things in 262 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,080 the lightweight division? Let's find out all right on the rest of the card. 263 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,519 You've been around for a lot of this, and this has happened before 264 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,960 where they announce the wrong winner or the wrong scorecard, not usually in a 265 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:52,039 high profile fight, but uh Ternika Johnson ends up winning the WBA Women's bantamweight 266 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,799 world title of Vernina Hughes and Tchernika is obviously the home country favorite, but 267 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:02,200 they the ring announcer and I know you're gonna go off here announced the wrong 268 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,720 winner. That's the most notable thing about her dominant performance. The thing that 269 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:10,279 we're probably only going to remember from this is that she stood there with a 270 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:15,519 stunned look on her face while Nina Hughes is celebrating, because again he read 271 00:17:15,559 --> 00:17:18,960 one of the cards is ninety eight ninety two for Hughes on what planet? 272 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:22,400 And from what limited I saw on the recaps on what planet? Would anybody 273 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,680 have thought that Nina Hughes won eight of the ten rounds? Well, here's 274 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,240 the thing previously, there's something wrong there. And then the dude puts it 275 00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:33,680 in reverse, like me on the five speed down into the right, put 276 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,079 it in reverse. Let me reread the cards, and God, Rayfield help 277 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,599 me. What are we doing here? You know what, Joe Tessitor said 278 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:45,759 that exact thing on this era. I thought he was listening to our podcast. 279 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:52,279 So the announcer is a guy named Lieutenant Dan Hennessy who has been the 280 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,880 voice of the major Australian boxing events for many years. I've never liked listening 281 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:02,319 to him. I think he's fucking over overblown. The gas bag he best 282 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,880 for it Forrest Gump. He's a literal Lieutenant Dan. He's a Lieutenant Dan. 283 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,440 Go ahead. I mean so, I've never been a fan of that 284 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,839 style. I mean, can we just have like you listen to, like 285 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,519 Jimmy Lennon, Michael Buffer, go back to the you know, back when 286 00:18:15,519 --> 00:18:19,599 I was watching boxing as a as a younger guy. Uh, Chuck Hull, 287 00:18:21,279 --> 00:18:23,400 you know people like that, Jimmy Lennon senior. I mean it's now 288 00:18:23,559 --> 00:18:26,759 Mark Chanook right for top rank, and Mark Schnook does a nice job. 289 00:18:26,759 --> 00:18:30,480 Also, David Diamantes a little over the top of times, but he's the 290 00:18:30,519 --> 00:18:34,640 Mattroum guy. And last Diamantes never announced the wrong winner right Phield. But 291 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,519 the point I'm making it at the ones I mentioned are they do it in 292 00:18:37,559 --> 00:18:41,599 an engaging and interesting fashion, but they don't scream at you. I don't 293 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,960 like screamers. You don't have to scream. I don't need screaming. Don't 294 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,880 give me a headache. He screams and he funks it up, so he's 295 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,440 bad on both counts. But the point is, even if you can put 296 00:18:51,519 --> 00:18:55,759 up with the nonsensical stick, you got one job as the ring announcer, 297 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,680 well you got two jobs. Announced the fights, who's in the ring to 298 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:03,039 fight, and then announced result that right when it's over. So if you 299 00:19:03,079 --> 00:19:04,160 go back and we'll get to this fight, in a minute. The earlier 300 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,039 fight, The first of the three fights on the top rank on the broadcast 301 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:12,519 was the junior bantamweight WBZ interim title fight between Pedro Givara and Andrew Maloney. 302 00:19:12,599 --> 00:19:17,359 Yes, yes, so when he read the scores for that fight, he 303 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,480 read the scores, but in his last score that he announced, he announced 304 00:19:19,519 --> 00:19:25,240 one thirteen, one fifteen, he fucked it up the way you normally reads, 305 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,839 so you kind of were confused. So he made that mistake. Now 306 00:19:26,839 --> 00:19:30,200 that's not I've seen worse. That's not an atrocity. It sucks, but 307 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,160 it's like, okay, but now in the title fight you do it again. 308 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,519 An he's even worse. And here's the problem. When he read the 309 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:41,640 original scores and they announced the wrong winner, he didn't like say, excuse 310 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,960 me, ladies and gentlemen, I have it, we have a correction. 311 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,759 He just grabbed the mic again or held the mic and started reading the scores 312 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:52,599 again. And in the studio in Bristol or Yeah, where Tim Bradley and 313 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,359 then Joe Testdor were, I felt like they they they had announced their result 314 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,440 and they were talking about the result and they didn't realize because not her fault, 315 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,880 because they're in Bristol in the studio, and obviously the fights are taking 316 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,039 place on the ground in Australia. Say, they were not even aware when 317 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:08,680 he finally grabbed the mic to start reading again. So you didn't hear the 318 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:11,440 very beginning of that, that's right. And then he just suddenly announced that 319 00:20:11,519 --> 00:20:15,400 the other corner, well what you see in the background, And again, 320 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,000 you're right when they're bizarre, when they're detached, they're on a remote location, 321 00:20:18,079 --> 00:20:23,039 they're not sitting ringside, they're they're right now, they're incredulous. Wait 322 00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:26,200 a minute, she got a she gotta and test towards even saying that she 323 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,119 got a ninety eight ninety two card in victory. And then you can see 324 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:36,240 somebody with Duke Tenant then in the background, which I assume is either an 325 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:41,519 Australian Commissioned person or who was it was the WBA's person that's standing there like 326 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,759 pointing to the card or whatever, and that's when he does the oh my 327 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,319 bad, but he just he didn't even do that. He just read them 328 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,640 again, like what the hell is going on? Well, he said something 329 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,880 like you can hear him in the background going ladies and gentlemen, ladies, 330 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,440 and gentlemen, because he's trying to say to the crowd, Oh, what 331 00:20:55,519 --> 00:20:59,200 a dobble. It was really really, really really bad. Yeah. And 332 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,839 so now you've got uh, cor Anina Hughes, who thinks she's retained the 333 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,960 title, who's already like in the arms of her team and her trainer and 334 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,680 celebrating, and and Johnson who's like, now suddenly the champion again, uh 335 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:12,200 or you know, win or not that again, but wins the title, 336 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,319 right, and and everybody is confused. And Tim Bradley, you know, 337 00:21:17,599 --> 00:21:19,279 was was his reaction was precious. You know, we got to get this 338 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,160 dude up on it out of here. And and Testatur, you know, 339 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,400 was basically Joe Testitaur was saying what every other person was thinking, like what 340 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,680 are we doing here? Which is what are we doing here when when it's 341 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,759 a one sided fight for the time. Now you asked me, have I 342 00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:37,559 have I seen something like that before? I can think of two examples, 343 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:41,200 and it's definitely happened years ago. I was covering an Oscar dale Hoy fight 344 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,359 at the MGM. I believe it was when he fought Javier Castilleo, which 345 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,720 is a pay per view fight, and a lot of the two thousand Olympians 346 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:52,079 that Lou de Bella had signed were on that undercard, and Lou was running 347 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:53,599 the show for Oscar. This is when he had broken away from Top Ring. 348 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,880 It was being promoted by Univision Sports, and one of the young prospects 349 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:02,200 that Lou had was the bantamweights medal winner from Washington, d C. Clarence 350 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,680 Vincent, who was the nephew of the Hall of Fame great Mark two sharp 351 00:22:04,759 --> 00:22:08,240 Johnson, and Clarence Vincent was a prospect at that time. I forget what 352 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,440 his record was, maybe he was three and oh four and oh something like 353 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,279 that. He had a four round fight or a six round fight on the 354 00:22:14,279 --> 00:22:17,839 pay per view on the undercard, and they announced the decision, and they 355 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,680 announced it to the other guy, and we're all sort of like, WHOA, 356 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,200 what's that all about? And then a few seconds later, the rein 357 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,279 announcer who I don't remember who was re announcing that particular fight, alerted the 358 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,480 crowd. Within a few seconds we out, you know, a mistake or 359 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,720 a correction, and they then announced the correct result of the fight. So 360 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,880 not a perfect situation, but Lisa was handled to my red collection in a 361 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:44,240 pretty reasonable Manner. Now, another fight that I remember that was similar was 362 00:22:44,279 --> 00:22:45,599 in and I looked this up because I just want to make sure I got 363 00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:51,200 this right. The first time I ever went to California to cover dal La 364 00:22:51,279 --> 00:22:53,799 Hoya Mosley one earlier in the day, that day you had the first fight 365 00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:59,359 that took place between Stevie Johnston, who was then the WBC lightweight champion and 366 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,160 Jose Leui Castillo, who would go on obviously to have big time notoriety and 367 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,160 fame, but at that time was known basically as the as a top sparring 368 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,920 partner for Julio Sazar Chavis. And on that day in two thousand, Julio 369 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:15,680 Jose Luis Castillo outpointed ste Johnson to win the title. Ring magazine picked it 370 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,960 as the two thousand upset of the year. So three months later they met 371 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,319 for a rematch. This time it was in Denver, Colorado, which was 372 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,880 Stevie Johnson's hometown. And in the in that fight, in the remap this 373 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,640 was actually was on ESPN, you had the original scorecard had been added up 374 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:37,440 incorrectly, and so uh they it was the official scorecard eventually was declared a 375 00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:42,240 draw and Castillo had won the title, but they had announced that Stevie Johnson 376 00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:45,240 in front of the hometown crowd, had won the title back, which was 377 00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:49,279 like a big deal by a majority decision. So he was right there the 378 00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:53,640 crowds, whatever crowds, there is roaring for the hometown guy, Stevie. 379 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,920 Stevie think wait a minute, but wait, so Stevie thinks he's won the 380 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,079 title back, and you know, that fight by a close decision, again 381 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,200 in front of the hometown, which makes it sometime the way that they handled 382 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,200 it even worse. It was not till several minutes later, when the boxers 383 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,400 were already back in their dressing room, that one of the scorecards had been 384 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,880 added up incorrectly. That was originally was one fifteen to one fourteen in favor 385 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,759 for stev was in fact one fourteen one fourteen, which allowed Castillo to keep 386 00:24:19,759 --> 00:24:25,240 the title on a majority draw. And Castillo and Johnson were already in their 387 00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:26,559 dressing rooms when they were notified, so they had to go in the dressing 388 00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:30,079 room and take the belt back from Castillo, who from Johnson, who wasn't 389 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,759 keeping the belt but he was there to use it for photographs and that sort 390 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:37,240 of stuff. And it was just sort of a big mess, okay, 391 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:38,519 And I have made reference to this before, and we'll just bring it back 392 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:42,559 up briefly because it relates in my area to the Wink, Ronald Winky Wright 393 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,440 Saint Petersburg, Florida by way of washing DC, but he's been in Saint 394 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,200 Pete, Florida for forty years of his life. Now. The Wink had 395 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:56,440 a famous WBO super welterweight title defense against Harry Simon that went in South Africa, 396 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,640 and we've talked about this before and it was the same thing. We're 397 00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:04,079 announced in the ring. The fight is a majority draw because I'm looking at 398 00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:08,319 it here on the box Wreck Rundown, which means Wink retains the title. 399 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,200 However, they have a scoring error and it's the same thing. They came 400 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,599 later to the locker room out of the ring, came to the locker room 401 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,440 and said the cards are wrong, that one card is wrong or was red 402 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:29,000 wrong, and it's actually a draw on the draw on the second judge's card, 403 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,440 which I think was Julie Letterman's card I'm looking at it here on box 404 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:37,480 Wreck, was actually Harry Simon winning one fifteen one thirteen, and because of 405 00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:41,799 that, one judge it scored for Simon. The ring announcer read, two 406 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,000 judges have it a draw. Winky retains the title. Because I remember Dan 407 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:48,440 Birmingham and telling me this in specific, it was one of the most heartbreaking 408 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,960 things. He said you could ever go through. We've celebrated to an people 409 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:59,799 who is Dan Birmingham is his longtime trainer who basically discovered Winky came into his 410 00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:03,720 gym in Saint Pete as a teenager and molded him into an amateur fighter and 411 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,319 then a professional fighter. So Dan said, we're in the win the dressing 412 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,359 room and we believe we've retained the title. And they come in the dressing 413 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,759 room and say there is a scoring mistake and we have to take the belt. 414 00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:18,519 Harry Simon has won the belt because the error means that Simon's won two 415 00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:22,119 of the cards, the second card being one fifteen, one thirteen. I 416 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,559 will just say this you, as you said just a few minutes ago, 417 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,519 you have one job to keep this straight, add it up correctly, and 418 00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:33,559 announce the correct winner. Well, just hold on the ring. Announce is 419 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:38,119 not adding it. I understand that. But the commission, the commission people 420 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,720 have one job to add it up correctly. And the ring announcer has one 421 00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:45,880 job, which is get the right winner's name. Okay, but here's the 422 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,720 thing. In the example of the Stevie Johnson and Jose Castillo rematch, and 423 00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:56,200 the example that you gave of the Winkie Right Harry Simon fight, that was 424 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,000 the ring announcer reading the correct scorecard has given to them because it was the 425 00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:03,240 commission that screwed off the addition of the cards. In the case of what 426 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:08,160 happened with our boy Lieutenant Dan, he read the sport cards, he read 427 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,279 the right scores, he just read the wrong winner. That's the fucked up 428 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:15,279 part. So that was on him, not the commission. You can't blame 429 00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:18,920 it, but still just overall the job. But can we get this right 430 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,880 because the fighters again are in a serious dangerous sport laying it on the line. 431 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,359 We get to the end, we're waiting for scorecards. Can we get 432 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,599 that part right? Just in general? And on on Saturday night, Trinika 433 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:36,480 Johnson did not deserve that, even though it was quickly corrected. It's so 434 00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:41,480 boxing, is the point. I know. So there's the women's title, 435 00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:45,039 all right. And then the other fight saw Pedro Guivara of Mexico really come 436 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:48,799 on in the second half of the fight, and we've learned more about why 437 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,160 he rallies. He wins a decision in comeback fashion. All Right, so 438 00:27:53,279 --> 00:28:00,720 a split decision win cards presumably added up correctly, right winner announced Guivera Givar 439 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,440 victorious. All Right. Some thoughts on that, including Andrew Maloney after the 440 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,079 fact saying that's it. I'm done. First of all, it was a 441 00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:11,279 good fight. That's the first thing. I mean, we always talk about, 442 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:12,599 you know, the male some important thing is do we get our time's 443 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,720 worth or if in the case of a paper view, our money's worth. 444 00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:17,839 They put on a good show. I knew it was gonna be probably a 445 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,359 pretty good fight based on having watched these two guys before. The Maloney's are 446 00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:25,359 you know, him and his brother Jason, sometimes they just cannot get over 447 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,440 the hump. You know, It's a rough week for the Maloney family because 448 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,440 not only did Andrew lose that very close fight to Guevara on Saturday night, 449 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,240 but we go back to Monday of last week and you had his brother Jason 450 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,359 in Japan losing the w BO bantamway title on the in a way Luisnary undercard. 451 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,519 So that's a rough week where the brother loses the world title and then 452 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,640 the other brother loses a chance to win an interim title. So it's probably 453 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,279 not two happy dimes in the in the old Maloney household gat But it was 454 00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:55,880 a good fight, and like you said, it was really Guivar coming on 455 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,279 very strong in the second half of the fight. The body punching was supreme. 456 00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:02,480 I'm looking at the coffee box stats. He was landy land almost like 457 00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:04,400 over eighty body punches in the fight, and that's definitely gonna take its call. 458 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:11,000 Sometimes professional judges don't give enough credit for body punching. In this particular 459 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:14,759 case, I feel like they did, so I had no real particular quarrel 460 00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:18,599 with the result. Maloney did say after the fact that he felt like he 461 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,720 was in total control, which he was in the first half the fight. 462 00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:22,799 At felt A, he said he had a biceps injury that he came into 463 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:26,480 the fight with that he couldn't throw his left hook the way he wanted to, 464 00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:27,279 but he felt like he didn't need to throw the left hook, So 465 00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:30,200 I'm not sure he can blame the loss on not throwing the left hook because 466 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,640 he felt like he was winning without it. He just said I used it 467 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,839 once in a while when I needed to, but I didn't really feel like 468 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,559 I needed to. So I think he sort of maybe misjudged, you know, 469 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,200 whatever perceived dominance that he had. And it was, like I said, 470 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,960 it's a close fight. I can't even call it like controversial. It's 471 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,920 like one guy was was blasting away to the body. It was one fifteen 472 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,359 to one thirteen on the two score cards that gave it in favor of Guavara. 473 00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:57,160 One judge had at one sixteen to one thirteen in favor of Maloney. 474 00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:00,799 Not out of the Roman possibility. You know, we all discussed the route, 475 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:06,279 the range of acceptable scores that seemed reasonable to me, and Guevara gets 476 00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:07,920 the title. Now. He said he was going to retire when he was 477 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,359 in the ring, and he dropped a couple of you know after that title. 478 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:14,799 Well, the first the first thing is they talked to Gavara through the 479 00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:17,519 interpreter and he said, I'd give him a rematch. It's a it's a 480 00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:19,200 split decision, close fight, let's do it again. Then we go over 481 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:26,880 to Andrew Maloney and his des I'm retired now. Later in the program, 482 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:32,119 Bernardo Osuna, So while they had from ESPN, he had a test tour 483 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,880 and Timmy Bradley up in Bristol calling from the studio. They did send Bernardo 484 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,200 Osuna to be on the ground in Perth to provide, you know, what 485 00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:42,920 was happening on the ground, to do interviews before and after and just basically 486 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,000 be the reporter to make sure that they could have access to whatever they needed 487 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:51,359 to do. And he then went and interviewed Maloney in the dressing room after 488 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,880 his entring retirement, and he he didn't totally like say I'll come back, 489 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,240 but he did say maybe for a rematch, I would do it again. 490 00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:03,799 My perspective is very simple, very very very rarely do I really truly believe 491 00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:07,119 a boxer when he says in the ring I'm retired. Not because I think 492 00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:08,079 in their mind at that moment they think it's true, but when they have 493 00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:11,960 a few days or a few weeks, has sort of really assessed the scenario, 494 00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:14,440 Hey, hey come back into or they get the call on being paid 495 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,440 how much? Okay? Exactly another part of it, right, Yeah, 496 00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:21,440 I think it's if I were a betting man, I would say Andrew Molney 497 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,160 will be back in the ring, perhaps in a rematch, perhaps something else. 498 00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:29,640 And if he is hopefully this time he's clearly both Maloney's are older, 499 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,359 they're twin brothers, they're both older. They've suffered some losses. We'll see, 500 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,960 but I mean it was it was a fight. They're popular in Australia. 501 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,559 It's a fight that makes sense to do a rematch in Australia. Probably 502 00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:41,960 is listen to me playing amateur promoter matchmaker. Probably is an undercard fight. 503 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,680 I don't know that it's a main event fight. Maybe it is, so 504 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,519 who knows. The thing about the thing about Guivara though, is like he's 505 00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:51,160 having like a late career resurgence, because if you go back, he had 506 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:56,480 this WBC title in one hundred and eight pound weight class twenty fourteen, twenty 507 00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:00,720 fifteen, and now he's a couple of weight classes north of that, and 508 00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:04,440 he's got a piece of a belt again. And even in a loss a 509 00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:07,920 couple of fights ago against Carlos Padres where it was also for this inter belt, 510 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,680 he performed extremely well. He lost a split decision, but it could 511 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:15,000 have gone either way. He got the opportunity because Quadras had a achilles injury 512 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,119 had bounced him out of the fight with Maloney. In the meantime, gar 513 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,039 had come back with a Mexico victory back in February, and now he's back 514 00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:25,839 in the ring before not you know, I maybe close to a career victory 515 00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:31,839 against Maloney the stage certainly at this stage it opens up options for him, 516 00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:37,440 all right, And then one more note again on the Boxer Show Sky Sports 517 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,960 and Peacock, Lauren Price did win I noticed you left me alone on my 518 00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,759 on my anniversary weekend and didn't text me. Told you? On Lauren Price 519 00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:51,559 off the bet Us Show getting the stoppage as it turns out of Jessica McCaskill 520 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,880 for the WBA Walter Wait, it wasn't really a stoppage. It was a 521 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,599 technical decision, okay, because of the cut from the class it was. 522 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,440 It was the clash of heads had and they went to the cards had They 523 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,000 had had a head butt in the fifth round. And now Lauren Price, 524 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,039 who was the Olympic gold medalist for a Whale or for Great Team Great Britain. 525 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,759 She's from Wales in the twenty twenty Olympics, really outstanding technical boxer. 526 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:21,160 They had a head butt in round five and mccaskell's eye. Her left eye 527 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,480 was swelling and swelling and swelling, and she looked like, you know, 528 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:28,240 Quasimoto. Eventually it was really a rough swelling. She you know Tomcastal's credit, 529 00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:30,640 she's tough and she was fighting through it, but you could tell she 530 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,160 just could not really see much out of that eye. And it got so 531 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,119 bad that they rang the bell to start the ninth round, and immediately they 532 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,279 called the fight. So now the ninth round is over. And this is 533 00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:43,640 kind of a stupid rule because literally two seconds into the round they hadn't even 534 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,480 gone to centering to throw a punch yet. But the judges are instructed to 535 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:52,359 score the round, so presumly it goes to ten ten. Did score a 536 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,799 ten ten round, which doesn't impact the ultimate scoring, but Price had won 537 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,359 every other round of the fight. So she ends up winning UH ninety to 538 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:07,800 eighty two technical decision and wins the WBA and the Ring Magazine Women's welterweight title. 539 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:14,760 Uh. And she deserved it because she totally dominated by thirty nine years 540 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,639 old. You know, she's been a good fighter, and she's been an 541 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:22,199 action fighter, but she did not have the skills to deal with her because 542 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:28,400 even before she was sort of compromised by the headbutt, even when when she 543 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,360 was clean, she was getting toyed with right and just was getting unfortunately looked 544 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,719 like a thirty nine year old fighter against a young, younger, sharper fighter. 545 00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:40,159 You know it was. I'm not even willing to say it's a matter 546 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:44,559 of age. I just think it's a matter of talent. The Mecasto has 547 00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:47,840 always been the kind of fighter who has been an overachiever. Ent her credit. 548 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,159 She won, you know, the undisputed title, and she's been in 549 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:55,280 some big time fights, and she's made pretty decent money, but she always 550 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,519 got more out of what she had, you know, because like I say 551 00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:04,000 this all the time, if I was like the boxing scout, I would 552 00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:08,480 rather sign the boxer who was the B talent but with the AHRT and work 553 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,199 ethic than the A talent, but the person that's not necessarily as committed. 554 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:15,920 Mcaskell was that kind of fighter in the sense that she wasn't the A talent, 555 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,599 but she was committed and she worked a rear end off in the same 556 00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:22,400 thing be said for any number of fighters, and there's plenty of fighters we 557 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,559 can come up with that supreme talent who pissed it away. Adrian Broner, 558 00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:29,320 for example, a plus talent but a ten cent head and no work ethic. 559 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,280 So give me the give me the fighter with the work and the B 560 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,000 talent. And so mccaskell had that. But Lauren Price, relative to her, 561 00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:39,920 is probably the A talent, and she's obviously much younger, and it 562 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:42,719 was the home crowd, and you know, she did a heck of a 563 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,039 job. It wasn't a particularly good fight. There was a lot of mauling, 564 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,960 a lot of holding, a lot of nonsense, but in the end 565 00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:51,960 she was winning all the rounds. And again from a Caskell, she has 566 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,280 a career defining upset of Cecilia Break. Who's when break? Who's hadn't lost 567 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,840 a fight in a quarter of a century, I'd no ten years, but 568 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,639 twenty five world title fights. Incredible, the Castle beater and Mecastal is actually 569 00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:07,159 really good on the commentary on his zone too. Listen to me playing network 570 00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:09,440 executive. I like hearing her. So she's got a future with that. 571 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:13,119 But there we go, all right, so something off of that card. 572 00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:15,440 So there we are in the recap mode. We've got some good news, 573 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,360 We've got some nostalgia let's get into the news here off the weekend. The 574 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:25,480 Top Rank officials made it official this weekend, Rafael Spinoza, WBO Featherweight champ 575 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,400 is back, and let's go over the opponent and the card because it's coming 576 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,360 here in June. Go over everything there. So Rafael Spinoza, I refer 577 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,280 to him as like the current boxing Cinderella Man because he comes out of absolutely 578 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,000 nowhere, unheard of, unknown, and you look at me, like the 579 00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:47,000 six foot something dude at featherweight, skinny as a rail, supposed to be 580 00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:53,000 like cannon fodder for Robas Ramirez in a WBO title defense, and what do 581 00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:55,400 you know, We've got a fight of the year near the end of last 582 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,119 year. Absolute drama. Both guys get knocked down, he pulls out a 583 00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:04,119 majority decision and he wins in a huge upset to get the belt. And 584 00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:06,760 it was a tremendous fight, and you're like, everybody's now in love with 585 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,559 Rafael Spinoza because of the way he fought, the way he showed heart, 586 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,199 the way he pulled off the upset. Just a terrific fight. And originally 587 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,719 Top Rank was going to do and I reported about this. The plan was 588 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,039 okay, you know, immediate rematch, and which top rank does not off 589 00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:22,760 to do immediate rematches, but in this particular case, for whatever reason, 590 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,079 they felt like that was the best plan for everybody, and they were going 591 00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:28,960 to do that in the next fight. But apparently it was Team Espinosa was 592 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,360 like, look, we're happy to give robes Si Ramirez a rematch, but 593 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,880 we want a title defense first, not an unreasonable request. So they are 594 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,800 giving him that defense and that will take place June twenty first. It will 595 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,679 take place that the new casino in Las Vegas called the Fountain Blue, and 596 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,400 he will take on a countryman named Sergio Chirino, who has got an excellent 597 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,719 record. He's twenty two to one with thirteen knockouts. His only loss, 598 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,519 you got to go all the way back to twenty eighteen, he did get 599 00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:58,199 stopped by Mauricio Laura, who went on to become the WBA Featherwave title holder. 600 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,559 So that's the fight that they're going to do. The Mexico versus Mexico. 601 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,840 Like I said, June twenty first, and it hasn't a yet beneficially 602 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,320 now I have written about this as well, but Robasi Ramirez is gonna fight 603 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,239 in June. On June twenty ninth, he's supposed to be on the co 604 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:15,039 feature when Tifimo Lopez has his next title defense. The plan though, is 605 00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:21,360 if Ramirez h is the winner of the fight against Trino, and if Robas 606 00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:23,719 wins his tune up fight or you know, his interim fight, then we 607 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,360 will see the rematch between these two guys come the end of the year. 608 00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:34,599 All right, good stuff on the Top Rank card there by the way, 609 00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:37,440 a couple of decent They also announced a couple undercard fights for I want to 610 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,400 know. Uh, he got the two sort of up and coming junior lightweights 611 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,159 who are both with Top Rank Andres Cortez who was unefeated, Abraham Nova, 612 00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:50,119 who's coming off of a very spirited loss in a world title fight against Oshaki 613 00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:52,239 Foster. They're fighting each other in the co feature. They've been kind of 614 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,039 calling each other out. That's that's a pretty interesting matchup if you ask me. 615 00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:58,400 And then the other fight, which this one kind of took me a 616 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,519 little bit by surprise, two of the young prospects that Top Rank's been bringing 617 00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:04,800 along or you got Troy Isisley, the middleweight who was the twenty twenty United 618 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,519 States Olympian who comes from Alexandria, Virginia, which is the next town over 619 00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:09,960 from where I live. So I kind of pay attention to what he's up 620 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,519 to because he's kind of my hometown guy. And they're gonna match him up 621 00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:19,599 with Haavier Martinez, the Middleway prospect from Milwaukee, and I had not realized 622 00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:22,679 that, but they fought four high level amateur fights in the various national championships 623 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:25,360 and that sort of stuff, and they're two and two, and so they're 624 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:30,079 gonna fight in a row. To me, it's like the pink slip fight. 625 00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:32,079 And what that means is the guy that wins this fight's going on and 626 00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:35,480 the guy that loses his fight probably gets cut from top ranks, cut, 627 00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:37,199 you know, top rank, you know, unless unless they put on a 628 00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:39,639 great, you know, some kind of spectacular type of fight. But this 629 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,559 is just a high stake, sort of big time fight for the careers of 630 00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:46,119 both these young men at this early stage of their careers to fight each other. 631 00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:49,800 So it's very interesting in that particular matchup. All right, So that's 632 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,320 coming June twenty first in Las Vegas. A. Right. We did talk 633 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,320 on the Friday podcast about Middleway possibilities. You brought up. You brought up 634 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,639 Jannaback, who has two of the belts, the WBO and IBF middleweight titles, 635 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,880 so we've now learned what his next defense is. And oh, by 636 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,840 the way, we were talking about newly elevated WBC champ Carlos Adamas. So 637 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,199 at the same time, something I suggested is actually gonna happen. So let's 638 00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:17,840 go over what we know. You've got your reporting on who Janebec's fighting next, 639 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,800 and then we have what the WBC middleweight title fight has now come together 640 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,320 fairly quickly like I thought it might. So let's go over both of those 641 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,519 in the middleweight division first. So go ahead, Yes, So July third, 642 00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:34,960 and I had written about the date and the site previously that the date 643 00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:39,079 penciled in for Janebec, who is the unified WBO and IBF middleway title holder. 644 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,760 He was going to fight July thirteenth at the Poms Casino in Vegas as 645 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,639 a main event on one of the top ranked ESPN cars, but he didn't 646 00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:50,599 have an opponent yet. So in my reporting is that Top rank approached the 647 00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:53,960 team of Carlos Adamas to try to make a unification fight, which seemed like 648 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,320 a pretty interesting matchup, especially when you talk about sort of the dearth of 649 00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:01,239 names and top fight's in the weight class. So that would seem like that 650 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:07,480 would be something pretty interesting. But the conversations did not go very far because 651 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,679 they were just separated by as I referred to it, the difference there was 652 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,239 they were not in the same galaxy on the money, of course, and 653 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,039 so there was no reason to even continue the conversations. You know, if 654 00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:20,239 you offer X and you know you're you're separated by one hundred thousand dollars or 655 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,480 something like that, you know, there's usually ways to get over the ump. 656 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,000 But in this particular case, I don't know the exact numbers, but 657 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,119 it was a substantial amount that they were not even in the ballpark on. 658 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,920 So they go their separate ways, and so unfortunately we're going to see janebec 659 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,679 in with I'm not saying this is the guy's no good. I just he's 660 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,119 unknown completely. He's high up in the rankings of the IVF. You know, 661 00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:42,199 they leave their number one and number two spots empty in case of an 662 00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:45,119 eliminator. So this is the guy that's number three in the IVA franking. 663 00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:47,760 His name is Andre the Kalovich. He is a twenty one to zero from 664 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,199 New Zealand, and so this is the opponent now for janebec in that in 665 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,960 that card. So all right, now the interesting card, the interesting fight 666 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,800 on that card. The more interesting fight anyway, at least on paper, 667 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,559 is the young lightweight contender that Top Rank promotes named Raymond Maretaya. They have 668 00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:08,119 signed to fight him. I think they're still trying to work out the details 669 00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:12,159 on the Murratai side, but they got the opponent signed, and that's the 670 00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:15,039 former junior lightweight title or Tevin Farmer, So that that would mark a pretty 671 00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:19,320 good step up at least in terms of the name of the opponent for Murtai 672 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,559 to face on that particular night. So if they get that, I'll wrapped 673 00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:24,880 up on the Murrati side, that's the co feature Murti versus Tevin Farmer and 674 00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:29,280 in the middleweight title fight in the main event. You mentioned about Carlos Damas, 675 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,400 I told you, yes, did I not say Thursday night into Friday? 676 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,880 Wouldn't it make a lot of sense to get him on the June fifteenth 677 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,280 pay per view that PBC is already doing with Amazon Prime, PPV, dot 678 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,800 Com and others and Lo and behold Rayfield, what do we got? Yeah? 679 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,000 I mean he's one of the guys when you look at the PBC roster 680 00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:51,119 of champions and top level guys that has been ridiculously out of the rank for 681 00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:53,440 no reason. They had to get him a fight. So they they have 682 00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:58,400 not analyzi yet. My understanding is they're still the PBC TGB. They're still 683 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,199 trying to wrap up the particulars on the contract. But so the WBC may 684 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,039 have jumped the gun a little bit. But Dayan now it's in their daily 685 00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:08,360 newsletter that that a Damas who had just been elevated to the full title holder 686 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,840 last week when Jemal Charlotte was stripped for his recent arrest and all the issues 687 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,719 that he's had, So adamas As sends to the full title holder. He 688 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,960 will defend that belt for the first time no longer inter on the June fifteenth 689 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,039 pay per view that's headlined by Tank Davis against Frank Martin. He will fight 690 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,719 the Olympian Terrell Gachet, who has primarily fought his career as a dream middleweight, 691 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,840 probably best known for scoring a knockdown of Tim Zoo before losing that fight. 692 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,760 I don't think that's particularly like a earth shattering kind of fight. But 693 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,159 it's good to see Adamas back in action, and at least he's fighting, 694 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,280 you know, a good quality, reputable profession. It's a fight that would 695 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,360 have worked well last winter when Adamas should have been elevated as the midway champ, 696 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,840 so that he would have a more significant fight now by the summer of 697 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,440 this year. But here we are with that, so that he I mean 698 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,760 again, it makes sense put him on that card. You got a month 699 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:00,840 to let him make a title defense. There you go. And you know, 700 00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:04,239 when I talk about like that, I don't love the fact that it's 701 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,679 guchet I. Actually I can't really criticize it too heavily because okay, they 702 00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:10,800 were far apart of making a Janovic fight, but the middleweight division is so 703 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,119 stinky right now. Like I'm not even sure who else they could have fought 704 00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:19,239 that I could tell you was much better than get At least he's a competent, 705 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,000 capable fighter, and he's a PBC fighter, and it's easy to make 706 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:24,039 and it's not the main event. It's part of a card they're already doing 707 00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:28,519 so correct, it makes too much sense to not do that. So they 708 00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:30,079 did do that? All right? You have more reporting about an August title 709 00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:35,039 defense for Luis Alberto Lopez, the IBF champ. What else you got on 710 00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:37,199 that? So, like as we're talking about most of these fights, it's 711 00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:38,719 like top ranks just lining up these events they just we talked about. They're 712 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,880 lining up Best Bonosa in the featherweight division. They're obviously lining up you know, 713 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,480 the young guy Morotaia. They're lining up Jane beec So the other featherweight 714 00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:50,519 that they promote, and they just announced this of course Stevenson fight and some 715 00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:54,239 other events. But Luis Alberta Lopez, who's the id F featherweight title older. 716 00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:58,239 But I think all these featherweights are sort of biding their time and trying 717 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,159 to keep their belts in waiting for the big money fights that presumably will come 718 00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:06,519 around next year for some of them when in a way goes up to featherweight. 719 00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:08,760 In any event, you got Louis Alberta Lopez, he is gonna make 720 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,239 his fourth defense, and this is a very interesting fight. To me, 721 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,760 this is like out of the blue, but I love this matchup. He's 722 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:21,480 going to fight the former WBO title holder Angelo Leo, who is gonna and 723 00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:24,320 he's lives in Vegas, but he's originally from Albertquerque, New Mexico. So 724 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,079 they're gonna take this fight. The champion once again is gonna fight on the 725 00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:30,920 other guy's home turf. Remember when when Lopez won the title, he did 726 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:36,360 it in uh in Josh Warrington's hometown in England. When he made his first 727 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,760 defense, he went to the hometown in Belfast, Northern Ireland to defend against 728 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:45,599 Michael Conlin. Yet again, he's had a neutral territory kind of fight. 729 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,440 But now he's going to be in Angelo Leo's hometown to fight him in this 730 00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:53,000 defense on August the tenth at the Tingley Coliseum. That's a really good matchup, 731 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,719 you know, Angelo Leo. You know, he did lose the belt 732 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,679 to Stephen Fulton, but he's won some fights since he was he's been fighting 733 00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:02,039 on the pro box carts and he stayed a little busy. I think he's 734 00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:06,639 won like three fights in a row, and so this is like an interesting 735 00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:09,039 massup to me. So that's gonna be a nice man of that August tenth. 736 00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:13,239 All right, one more news item than some nostalgian and we're gonna be 737 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,599 done. Wait a minute, Rayphael, the WBC is telling David Devin Haney, 738 00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:24,840 you gotta fight mandatory challengers Sandor Martin and begin negotiations. I realize with 739 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:30,519 all of the controversy it's been in the news about Hani getting beat and Ryan 740 00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:36,360 Garcia testing positive for a PD afterwards, But the WBC is treating this like 741 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:42,119 the McDonald's drive through line on ordering him to fight the mandatory challenger here three 742 00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:45,719 weeks after his other fight. I say again, where was the WBC for 743 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:51,599 almost three years ordering Jamal Charlow fight someone or we're going to strip you. 744 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,960 I further say, David Benavidez has been the number one and the interim guy 745 00:46:57,159 --> 00:47:00,320 for a year to fight Canelo Alvarez. Where's the McDonald's drive through on ordering 746 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:05,000 him to do that? What what I mean? That's what are we doing 747 00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:07,719 here with the WBC. I can't disagree with that. I will just say 748 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,719 this though, Sander Martin's position as that mandatory this is not a surprise. 749 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,119 Everybody knew before the Ryan Garcia fight between him and Haney that this was going 750 00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:17,159 to be the next was going to be ordered. It was just a matter 751 00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:22,079 of time, and that was happening. So I don't disagree with you on 752 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:27,360 some of my issues with the WBC come down to this is the inconsistent not 753 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,360 that they're ordering this guy to fight that guy or they're not ordering this other 754 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,599 guy to fight that another guy, is the inconsistency of the time frame of 755 00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:36,519 when they do it. That's right. In other words, like you said, 756 00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:40,519 if they're gonna order Hany a month after his fire, mean, let's 757 00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:44,360 just have a little more consistency, that's all. I'm not saying that they're 758 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,320 you know, the mandatory seemed to be okay in terms of the matchups. 759 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,880 And Sander Marty. You know he's got the win. Uh you know, 760 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,960 he's he's got the big win over Mikey Garcia a couple of years ago. 761 00:47:53,199 --> 00:47:58,199 He did have a very close decision loss where he's scored a knockedout against uh 762 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,920 tia Fimo Lopez. But he is the number one challenger now and so this 763 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,840 is a fight that's been ordered. And because Hani retained the title because Ryan 764 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,920 Garcia was putting the putting the drug test stuff aside, the mere fact that 765 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,400 that Garcia didn't make the weight meant that he was not eligible to win the 766 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,280 title. And because the WC rules meant that that whatever happened, that Haney 767 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,880 couldn't lose the title. So it was just sort of like a not a 768 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,400 really a title fight, but I guess a non title fight ended up correct. 769 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,159 But he's still with WBC champion and Santa Martin is still supposed to get 770 00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:31,519 his opportunities. So they ordered that negotiation. They've got until June eighteenth. 771 00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:34,920 If they don't make a deal, they'll have the pers bid on June eighteenth. 772 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,000 And you know, one of things I do like about the way the 773 00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:40,079 WBC handles their purse bids. It's a seventy to thirty split between the champion 774 00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:44,960 and the challenger. But what they do is they take ten percent of whatever 775 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,679 the winning bid is and the WC keeps that in like escrow, and that 776 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,599 ten percent of the winning bid goes to the winner as a bonus. The 777 00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:55,440 remaining ninety percent of the bid, that's what gets cut seventy thirty between the 778 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,320 champion and the challenger, so whoever is the winner gets you know, we 779 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,039 don't know what the number as yet because the bids not have not yet taken 780 00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:04,800 place, and of course they could still make a deal, and in that 781 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,719 case it wouldn't be a purse bid, but there is that sort of tarrot 782 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,599 of the bonus, which I kind of like. And we'll see what Haines's 783 00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:14,159 appetite is. I mean, I'm sure he's not going to vacate the title. 784 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,320 You know, that's that's his calling card. He still has the belt 785 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:22,199 after that loss to Garcia. And just because they ordered the purse bid doesn't 786 00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:24,480 mean that suddenly the fight's gonna happen like you know, a couple of weeks 787 00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:28,440 later. They'll take a few months to have it all come together. But 788 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,719 you gotta figure if that's what he wants to do in terms of keeping the 789 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,559 belt. That Devin Hiney's next fight later this year will be against and or 790 00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:37,880 Mark. But then we go down the road to step aside money if there's 791 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,320 something else, and that could happen too, so who knows, who knows 792 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,280 if that gets worked out? Also, all right, some nostalgia and then 793 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:49,599 we are ready to be done on Sunday, as we do this on Mother's 794 00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:52,320 Day, May twelfth, two thousand and one. You have talked a couple 795 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,000 of times, including recently, about the atmosphere in and around Felix, Trinidad. 796 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,760 William JOPPI this is the twenty third anniversary of the fight. As we 797 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,039 really the podcast Sunday night, May twelve, two thousand and one, you 798 00:50:04,119 --> 00:50:09,360 were ringside, and you continue to rave about that atmosphere that night. You 799 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,440 know, I went back when I knew we were going to talk about this 800 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,320 a little bit, and I went back and I just looked at a few 801 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:19,519 minutes of it on YouTube, and it just brought back so many memories because 802 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,360 I wish, you know, everybody could experience all the fans could find a 803 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,199 fight that had this type of atmosphere that they would remember for the rest of 804 00:50:27,199 --> 00:50:31,440 their lives. This fight is twenty three years ago. Yes, I know, 805 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,440 I know this was such a spectacular atmosphere now, maybe partly because I 806 00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:40,280 was still sort of newish in terms of covering boxing and hadn't yet experienced that 807 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,440 the level of mega fights that I have currently, you know that I have 808 00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:45,639 in you know, in ensuing years, you know, been privileged to be 809 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,400 ringside for. But this was as good as a guest. This was a 810 00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:54,880 massively popular Felix Trinidad. He was the unified title holder at junior middleweight. 811 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,639 He had knocked out Fernando Vargas in a spectacular fight, one of the greatest 812 00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:02,840 fights I've ever been that ringside for sensational fight of the year type fight. 813 00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:07,760 At the end of two thousand and so, he's gonna move up to the 814 00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:10,800 to the to the middleweight division, and Don King and HBO worked out a 815 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,800 deal. Was very hard to do and very complicated. Everything with Don King 816 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,440 is complicated, but they had the four top middleweights, or I take the 817 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,639 back day, the three top middlewaights. To remember, this is at a 818 00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:24,199 time where he needed the three belts to be undisputed. William Joppi had the 819 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:29,840 WBA title, Keith Holmes had the WBC title, and Bernard Hopkins had the 820 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,480 IBF title. And Felix Trinidad was the guy moving up and he was really 821 00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:37,760 the star that this was constructed around. The idea was he's the lynch pin, 822 00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:39,960 and we'll see if we can get Tito Trinidad the undisputed middlewaight championship, 823 00:51:40,599 --> 00:51:43,880 and we'll see if these other three guys have something to say about that. 824 00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:45,880 And so the first semi final of this tournament, it was like a really 825 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:51,000 big deal. It was Bernard Hopkins against Keith Holmes, which I also was 826 00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:53,719 ring signed for that was in the Madison Square Garden Theater. Bernard Hopkins, 827 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,800 you know, won very easily, not a particularly great fight, so he 828 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,840 moves into the finals, and a couple of weeks later you have Tito Trinidad 829 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,679 against Joppy in the main arena at Madison Square guard on pay per view as 830 00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:09,159 opposed at Hopkins and and Keith Holmes, which is a regular HBO fight, 831 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,639 And the hype on this was enormous. You know, Joppy was a good 832 00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:15,199 fighter, a good champion, you know, had been in with some solid 833 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:20,280 guys, was rough, was tough, strong, and so a lot of 834 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,599 people gave him a chance to win. I definitely gave him a chance to 835 00:52:22,639 --> 00:52:24,440 win. And Trinidad and him met, and let me tell you something, 836 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:29,920 TJ. The atmosphere was absolutely electrifying. It's because all like every Puerto Rican 837 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,679 in New York turned out for the fight. There was like, you know, 838 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:37,440 nine William Joppy fans and you know, sixteen thousand Puerto Rican or Trinidad 839 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,119 fans. And I've said the story before, it's it's in my top two 840 00:52:40,199 --> 00:52:45,199 or three or four all time atmospheres I've ever been in. I can still 841 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,199 as we talk about here, the air horns and the rafters going off. 842 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:52,079 I've told this story about all the flags. I've told the story about going 843 00:52:52,119 --> 00:52:58,159 to the arena early because I wanted to buy my programs and posters and bring 844 00:52:58,199 --> 00:53:00,679 them back. I was standing in a hotel across the tree from the garden 845 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,119 and put them in my room so I didn't have to have them at ringside 846 00:53:02,119 --> 00:53:06,320 getting off screwed up. So I went over and taken. You don't want 847 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,840 that to happen either, or stomped on or messed up whatever. So I 848 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,800 went and I got all my merch and I went back to my room, 849 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,039 dropped it off, and then walked back across the street to go to the 850 00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:17,159 arena for the under card. This is like late afternoon because Don King would 851 00:53:17,159 --> 00:53:22,119 have these crazy long shows and I's got as my witness. There were cars 852 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,880 parked on Seventh Avenue right in front of Madison Square Garden, right where the 853 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,039 you know, the train station is also Penn Station, and they were tailgating. 854 00:53:30,039 --> 00:53:34,920 They had the Felix TRINETD flags like on the on the on the cars. 855 00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:37,199 They were drinking their fuck their drinks out of like the you know in 856 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,880 the in the in the paper bags, and the cops were looking the other 857 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,440 way, and they were tell like sitting on like chairs in the like right 858 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,599 off the street, in the off the curb. And you know, it's 859 00:53:47,639 --> 00:53:51,199 one thing to tailgate, and you're in a stadium, you know, in 860 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,679 a parking lot in a football game or wherever you're at. They're tailgating on 861 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:58,559 Seventh Avenue, mid down. It was the craziest shit I've ever seen. 862 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,239 And then they're afternoon in the parking lots of Bryant Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa, 863 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:07,400 Alabama for Alabama against Tennessee. Not the same setting, No, and Tito 864 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:13,920 Trinidad went in there and absolutely destroyed William Joppy. Dropped him in the first 865 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,480 round, dropped him in the fourth round, dropped him in the fifth round, 866 00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:20,119 and ended the fight. And the crowd, like I said, it 867 00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:23,840 was all Puerto Rican And the only thing I've talked to many peeny people who've 868 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:29,119 had experiences at Madison Square Garden and big fights, and they compare Trinidad and 869 00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:31,719 Joppy. The only other fight they say matched that sort of electricity was the 870 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:37,079 night in the early eighties when Roberto Durant headlined at the Garden and he defeated 871 00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:39,960 Davy Boy Moore to win the Jerior Middleway title in a fight that he was 872 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,360 not really so much expected to be the winner at and just people would absolutely 873 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,760 lunatic and the joppy in Trinidad was like that. And now you'd say like 874 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,400 because Trinidad was not a big star, but it was just the love for 875 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,039 Trinidad, the passionate. He was moving up in wait, he was winning 876 00:54:55,039 --> 00:55:00,920 a title in his third class. It was huge and it is as memorable 877 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,639 as an experience as I have ever had at a boxing match. Ever. 878 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,480 It is and I've been at numerous fights at Madison Squaground. I've covered virtually 879 00:55:08,519 --> 00:55:13,880 every single fight that's taken place in the MSG Maine Arena since two thousand and 880 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,559 that's the best atmosphere of all. And that includes having covered fights with you 881 00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:21,760 know, Anthony Joshua against Andy Ruiz, and having covered other Felix Trenad fights, 882 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,360 having covered virtually every one of Miguel Coto's fights that taking placed there, 883 00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:28,679 including the remaster of Antonio Margarito, and those are all great atmospherres, but 884 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,440 this stands alone. Love it one more piece of nostalgia, and that's on 885 00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:37,599 Monday, May thirteenth, two thousand and six, which is now getting on 886 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:43,960 eighteen years ago. Ricky Hatton, there's only one you're singing now, you're 887 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:51,519 singing Boston is where he fought Luis Colazzo eighteen years ago Monday, you were 888 00:55:51,519 --> 00:55:53,679 there. Besides the singing of the British fans, which you've often talked about 889 00:55:53,679 --> 00:56:00,599 around Ricky Hatton fights, what else stands out? So Ricky had made his 890 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:05,159 name in this big victory over Costazoo with stoppage in June of two thousand and 891 00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:09,280 five, live on Showtime, but it was super late at night in Manchester, 892 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,400 England, which was Ricky's home down because they were showing a live on 893 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,360 Showtime, so they made up for the time difference by bringing it to us 894 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,159 in prime time, so it was much later. Anyway, He gets that 895 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:22,400 career defining victory over Costa Zoo, becomes the Junior Wildway World Champion. His 896 00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:27,840 next fight that took place later that year, he fought a fighter named Carlos 897 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,960 Mausa. He knocked him out. He unified the IBF and the WBA titles. 898 00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:35,039 He ended up either giving up or being stripped to the IBF because of 899 00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:37,800 their nonsensical mandatory situation. But at that point he had made a deal. 900 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:44,119 He signed with Art Polulo from Banner Promotions. They had done a very significant 901 00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:47,039 contract with HBO. He was going to be leaving Showtime going to HBO and 902 00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:51,599 for his first fight, he was going to step up to the welterweight division 903 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,760 and challenge the WBO WBA champion, Lewis Colaso. They were going to bring 904 00:56:54,800 --> 00:57:00,440 it to Boston, figuring, you know, the combination of the ritz who 905 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,679 are there. Irish just seemed like a place that had not been serviced by 906 00:57:02,679 --> 00:57:06,519 a big Maxie match for a long time. They added the TD Garden, 907 00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:09,480 which is where the Celtics play right arena in that city. I of course 908 00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:13,159 went to that fight, and uh, you know, Ricky did not look 909 00:57:13,159 --> 00:57:15,519 good that night, as good as he as dominating as he was against Zoo 910 00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:20,679 and stopping him, as as good as he looked in terms of getting the 911 00:57:20,719 --> 00:57:23,119 knockout against Malsa. Here you have Colaso. You know, no one's going 912 00:57:23,199 --> 00:57:25,760 to confuse Colasa with a Hall of Famer, but he was tough as nails 913 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,719 and was willing to fight anybody. He was making his second title defense and 914 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,519 it was a really close fight, and when it was all said and done, 915 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,840 I and many others had Closa winning this fight. As it turned out, 916 00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:39,039 they gave it to Ricky had in one fourteen, one thirteen, one 917 00:57:39,159 --> 00:57:44,360 fifteen, one twelve to the scorecards. He had knocked Colaso down in the 918 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,360 first round. But other than that, I thought that Colaso was the was 919 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:52,199 the dominating fighter relatively speaking, But nonetheless it goes down as a victory for 920 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,400 uh for Ricky. Now, he went back to the junior walterweight division after 921 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,320 that and and you know, had a string of fights in that way class. 922 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,159 But this was one of those deals where you kind of feel like he 923 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,079 was the house fighter, even though he was from another country. You know, 924 00:58:07,199 --> 00:58:10,199 it was a big HBO fight. It's his first fight of a new 925 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,079 contract. It was sort of like, if it's close, he's going to 926 00:58:14,239 --> 00:58:15,760 get the call. And Ricky's going into the Hall of Fame in June. 927 00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:20,079 And it's not because of this victory. That's obviously because of other things he 928 00:58:20,119 --> 00:58:22,440 did, but this was the one where there's a little bit of a dicey 929 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,039 situation. I remember a lot of people were, you know, the fans 930 00:58:25,039 --> 00:58:29,280 had turned out for him and singing his songs in the you know Blue Moon 931 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,199 when he comes to the ring. But like I said, many of us 932 00:58:31,239 --> 00:58:35,599 at ringside really felt that that closet got a raw deal that night, and 933 00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:38,400 presumably the scores were added up right and the right winner was announced on that 934 00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:45,800 because Lieutenant Lieutenant Dan was dinant. Then h with that, we have come 935 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:52,320 to the end of the recap. We've started. We've started Tyson Fury Alexander 936 00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:58,519 Usik fight week now for this week, God willing, we still have a 937 00:58:58,519 --> 00:59:01,400 few days and it is Tyson Fury undisputed heavyweight title fight for LA this week. 938 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,920 I know we're anxious about getting involved with that. You're gonna be writing 939 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,079 about it on your substack, lots of previews and here we go from Saudi 940 00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:14,519 Arabia allegedly this Saturday for four B so negative about it. I'll say this 941 00:59:14,519 --> 00:59:16,320 whatever, because I thought, Okay, you've teed it up and I'm gonna 942 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:21,039 do it later in a week. Because Tyson Fury screwed around and cost us 943 00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:23,559 this fight a year ago. At this time, he further screwed around and 944 00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:30,599 fought Francis Enganu and looked shaky and maybe lost, and then they scheduled this 945 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,159 fight, and then he has a cut over his eye. So why would 946 00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:37,119 I or any other reasonable person be a little skittish about fight week. I 947 00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:39,960 just can't hear some reasons why. Once you get to the fight week, 948 00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:44,079 it's highly unlikely that anything would go wrong. It's happened, we know that. 949 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,119 But if you look at any of the video or photos that have been 950 00:59:46,159 --> 00:59:50,840 of Tyson since he's been in preparation for this, I gotta tell you, 951 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,920 man, dude, his looks in the best condition he's ever been in period. 952 00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:55,880 End of story. Well let's see, let's see. Let's see what 953 00:59:57,159 --> 00:59:59,039 looks like. All right, all right, let's see what it looks like. 954 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,840 Let me take this. Several of the top ranked people and others associated 955 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:07,480 with this fight are on flights from Perth, Australia on their way to re 956 01:00:07,719 --> 01:00:10,719 Ed. So check this out way no no wait wait wait by way of 957 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,679 Tokyo earlier in the week. Check out this itinerary this week. Okay, 958 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:22,159 So Bob Aram from top rank, Brad Jacobs from top rank, and I 959 01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:24,679 think others also. They went from the United States to Tokyo for the in 960 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:30,159 away fight. Then they went from Tokyo to Perth, Australia, which is 961 01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:31,400 as long as a trip that you'd think like it's you know, you just 962 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,599 look at Japan to Australia. It's not that far. But dude, trust 963 01:00:35,639 --> 01:00:39,320 me, the trip from Tokyo to Perth is like, and I think you 964 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,239 got to stop somewhere. Is the same sort of distance if you're going from 965 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,000 like the East Coast United States to Tokyo. It's a long freaking trip. 966 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:50,199 So they went to to Tokyo, then they went to Perth. Then they 967 01:00:50,199 --> 01:00:52,000 said three days later, three days later, keep going right, So the 968 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,320 fight in Perth happened. It was like twelve o'clock, one o'clock in the 969 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:02,000 afternoon on Sunday in Perth. Many of them got on flights Sunday night, 970 01:01:02,119 --> 01:01:07,679 Perth time, at ten ten thirty at night Perth time to fly the roughly 971 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:14,239 twelve hours from Perth to Doha, three and a half hour layover in Doha, 972 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,960 then Doha to Saudi Arabia for Read for the fight week for Tyson Fury. 973 01:01:17,239 --> 01:01:21,760 Now, when the Tyson Fury fight week is over, some of those 974 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,800 same people are going from Read to Leeds, England because Top Break also has 975 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:31,239 Josh Taylor against Catterall in the rematch. So aarm is going to go from 976 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,599 Saudi Arabia. Aram's ninety two years old, by the way, unbelievable. 977 01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:37,800 He's going from there to England. For that that one's a little more reasonable. 978 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:42,280 Saudi Arabia to England is not like a twelve hour flight. Now, 979 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,920 the original plan was after the Caterall fight, they were going to get back 980 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,760 on the planes in the UK and go back to Read for June first for 981 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,559 better via than Bivil. That fight has been in post post so they're not 982 01:01:51,559 --> 01:01:53,960 making that second Saudi trip. They'll go back to the United States and then 983 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:59,559 they've got the card on in early June at the Madison Square Garden Theater on 984 01:01:59,559 --> 01:02:04,280 the Port of Parade weekend where xanders Aias headlines at the Madison Square Guard Theater. 985 01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:08,800 So they're basically going from United States, Japan, Perth, the Doha 986 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:15,239 Read England back to America and and skipped another REACT trip in the middle there 987 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,360 because of the fact that the fight was postponed. Rack up the frequent flyer 988 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:23,760 miles want to save travelow was like Vegas to you know, DC to Vegas, 989 01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:28,360 Vegas back to d C with an extra day in Vegas because my fight 990 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,960 was all messed up last week after the Canelo fight. But you got it 991 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:34,760 done. You got it done, You're back. We're all good. I 992 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,599 celebrated my anniversary, we had Mother's Day. We're all good. And now 993 01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:40,880 we march on to Fury and Usik and the undisputed heavyweight title fight week in 994 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:45,000 Saudi Arabia. Much more on that Red Dance substack, Big Fight Weekend dot 995 01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:50,760 Com, and we will have the preview podcast out in the US show handicapping 996 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,719 all of this later in the week. With that feel better, my friend, 997 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,639 I know you a little under weather. Feel better and let's have a 998 01:02:55,639 --> 01:02:58,840 good weekend. Get ready for Fury and USA. What do you say? 999 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:00,840 I say, that's it was good. We love it. We thank you 1000 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:05,639 for finding us here as we recap off the weekend. And again, congrats 1001 01:03:05,679 --> 01:03:08,159 to vasili Wimachenko. Let's see what happens in the future for him and all 1002 01:03:08,159 --> 01:03:12,079 the other actions we recap this weekend. For now, for Dan Rayphiel, 1003 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,280 I'm TJ Reeve. Thank you for being with us on the Fight Preach Unite 1004 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:15,320 Recap podcast.