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the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome. What a stressful
afternoon it's been. Now, if you're on beta blocker, and imagine that's
the thing is Danny says to me at one point, I'm on beta blockers,
and I said, are you really? And he goes, well,
I'm on some kind of medication. It's helping. He's like, why are
you so calm? I'm on beta blockers. Put on a lot of weight
for it, though I'd rather like be nervous and lose weight. Is that
what it takes? Because the six greg use and waters, Yeah, they're
good for the heart. They're good for the heart. We are live in
Greg Connor's man cave, and I don't know if we're are we streaming on
Facebook? We're probably not streaming on YouTube. I probably should have started the
lot. That's right, don't even worry about it. Well, if you
can, it'll be It would be good because that way we can at least
Facebook. That way I can just grab the video later. But man,
right at the end of the game, oh right, at one of the
most crucial moments, it pay the bill, No craigs. I've never seen
like every TV just pause, just pause. Everything pawed. It went one
by one by one. That was the best part. And it started like
how many TVs are down? One, two, three, four five,
five TVs Fine all five and then unfortunately Dan had his phone, so he
went he went live on his NFL Plus. You can get the game.
My god, in the midst of a jam, he went live and then,
uh so we don't have watched it on Twitter. Oh my god,
I I lost my mind. Are they on? I couldn't tell, buddy.
I apologize because it's right now. No, no, not sorry.
I was just looking at was just looking. I got to fix the shot.
See, I'm still I was so stressed out you that game. I
lost my mind. I couldn't believe what happened. And then I and then,
of course, who is the first person? I blamed? Yeah,
well what do you do? He left twenty five minutes before that even happened.
He was gone, I do the same thing. Yeah, like right
away? Your poson live here now, James? Wait all the time?
That was it all the time. But your mom is sitting with us,
Craig, and your mom was so wonderful because see you at one point was
very very patient as you were coming around, and then I saw her almost
WinCE as you were going to high five when something good happened. But he
gets very passionate passionate. Yes, going to take my hand. It's when
they kicked the field goal to go up twenty seventeen. Yes, and then
she said be gentle you were I wasn't at first, but then when I
heard it, I was okay. I don't want to it hurts. Well,
yeah, I mean I don't want her to not be able to drive.
I've never worried about that. I worried about her coming back with the
right cross. Yeah that too, all right. So now they win,
the playoff hopes are alive. Continue or continue? Yeah, we say games
of playoff. Next week is a big one. That's against Dallas, who
were playing tonight at home, baby at home. Is this a four o'clock
again next week? Yes it is, yes, yeh in Buffalo for twenty
five. This is America's team coming in. I don't know if they're America's
team anymore. I feel like the Lions have become America's team for some reasons.
America's team got pounded today. I know what is happening. Like the
Jets blew the Texans out. Nobody's scored until until the third quarter. I
mean that game the killer is I picked my pick of the week, like
was Detroit minus three and a half against the Bears. Yeah, you go
to Chicago. I mean you're the number three seed. You guys have been
playing strong, your defense is pretty solid, your offense should score at least
twenty points, and they freaking shit, the bed Lions are going to lie.
That's what they always do. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean
I can't remember. I think it's. Kyle Bryant on NFL Network talks about
he's the Lions are like the uncle who never really fulfills his potential. He's
like the drunk but comes back and then he himself up and Thanksgiving looking good
Christmas. He actually tells it, he told he gave this scenario back in
September about the Lions, how they're going good. They come into Thanksgiving dinner
because they've always played Thanksgiving, they committed Thanksgiving dinner. And then he gets
drunk at dinner and then he completely turns into exactly the way he's always been.
And what did the freaking lines doing things exactly? That was another one
was because you know for years there the perennial loser. They're like the who
the glow the globe. John's always washing, the Washington General, the Washington
Generals of the Thanksgiving Day. I'm a closet Lions fan because they have reminiscence
of the Bills fans. One is Ralph Wilson was from Detroit. Well.
He was part part owner of the Lions within family before he became the Bills
owner. He was part owner of the Lions, and they just they get
close and they never seem to win. And at least the Bills have been
in the Super Bowl. The Lions have never been in the Super Bowl modern
the modern day Super Bowl, the Lions have never been in it. Closest
they've come with the ninety one championship game where they lost to Washington in Washington.
That's the closest. They were the last team also to beat the Cowboys
before they went on that Super Bowl run. No kidding in the playoffs.
Yeah, all right, So talk to me a little bit here, Greg,
because we haven't talked to you since the Tyler Dunn article came out.
You know three part thing, I have not read the entire article. We're
gonna have Tyler Dunn on Wednesday's podcast. He'll be on with us Interesting Insight.
It made Saturday Night Live. We'll play that audio on a little bit
last night. They did make reference to it on Saturday. It's exactly what
he wanted, but I couldn't tell. I had so many feelings about it,
and now I only read excerpts of the article, not the entire thing
yet, so I don't know. But it felt almost like a bit like
a hit piece in a way at McDermott. But it seemed like this could
be a lot of distraction. And I said, if they win, this
goes away. If they don't, this is what the focus will be.
And they did win today. I think they have to continue to win.
But yeah, thoughts on that thing. Did you read it? I read
the article? You did, I got the heads up on it. I
read the article, and and you know, the reference to the nine to
eleven situation from my perspective and the perspective of others, is that Why if
his point was that Sean McDermott is like an al Qaeda supporter, yeah,
which is which he's not, then why reference it. Everybody knew he made
the comment. Everybody in the media knew he made the comment. Twenty nineteen,
he apologized to the team and people talked about it, and to bring
it up now, it's like, is it as are you trying to use
it as a reflection of his leadership because he was using it to try to
demonstrate leadership. Now, if you've never been someone who was accountable and responsible
for other human beings and their in their livelihood, this guy has no eff
and clue about what leadership is. Because when I looked at this is what
what when you criticize him in the reference that he made. Now, look
it was it a good reference? No, it probably isn't, no flat,
but I but what he was. I think we even said that,
Danny. I think when we talked about it was just like a I didn't
take it poor analogy? Yeah. Yeah. The thing is he set it
up. He worked so hard. He could tell you worked at this,
at this this illustration, and the players weren't buying it. But at the
same time, I mean to me it was like it was overblown. In
fact, it's the articles in three pieces and three parts. This was on
part two and it was deep into part two. So if Tyler doesn't really
wanted to use this to embarrass McDermott, he would have led off with it.
He didn't. I mean, this was in the middle, so I
leave it the Tyler Dunn took it that seriously as far as the one from
everybody else. It's because it was the most salacious. Yes, thank you,
and people love cancel culture and that's all this is gonna this is gonna
be huge. And and that's kind of you know, again, what's the
what's the purpose and the point of the reference, because for me, you
know, I talk about this all the time. Is that common enemy,
the common You can take people from different perspectives, different political objectives, if
you come up with one common enemy, you will rally together to overcome the
common enemy. Yes, that's essentially what mcderm was trying to say to these
guys. And and in the reference he was using is that US, the
United States was their common enemy to try it, and they overcame obstacles that
seemed impenetrable at the time to overcome that. That that the circumstances not is
it again, is it a poor reference? It's horrible, But you know
he was trying to garner a camaraderie or a focus within his team, and
as a leader, you try to you try to do those things. The
other thing that I found to me reflection of his inability to understand what leadership
really means when you're a business owner or you're a coach or something. He
said, everybody's he's always looking for an escape. Yeah he did say that.
Well, he made it look like other coaches had said I think former
coaches. Yeah, now we're saying things like, yeah, he never did
this, or he didn't do that. I don't. But then I'm taking
it as if you're a former coach, are you disgruntled in some way that
you're no longer there? You know, I've got about fifteen former attorneys.
Yeah, and they could say the same damn thing about me, right,
but the bottom line and they do. Boy, I saw one of Greg.
I couldn't believe that that went. That doesn't sound like Greg. I
gotta tell you, you know, when it comes down to it, if
you're if you're missing yourselves and you're the CEO of the company, is it
you're her fault? It is his fault. It's mcdermer's fault. And if
I'm missing our sales projection and targets, it's my fault as the managing partner.
But then I have to determine who's in charge of that because and if
you're not performing. Either I have to do something to give you a performance
plan, an individual performance plan, or I'm going to fire you. But
me, working with you and the team, I have to determine can we
get past that or not. If we can't, you're gone. Now somebody
say, oh, he's the scapegoat. No shit, because that's your role.
If you don't perform, if you don't hit the expectations of what I
want, in the in the team wants, you either have to demonstrate you
can get there, or you're fired. He's the most powerful man in the
history of the organization, even more powerful than Tom Donahoe. And I'll think
about that. McDermott is after after and of course Terry Pagula because it used
to be that used to be the pecking order will be the only and the
head coach. Nowadays you're in an arrow where the head coach actually could pick
his own hand picked manager, which he did. He brought in Brandon Bean.
Now it's Brandon Bean's draft and his personnel. But you know, McDermott
has a lot of saying that. But at the end of the day,
according to this article, McDermott is the guy in charge and they're winning in
spite of him. And there's several examples. And when like Greg you mentioned,
like, you know, attorneys leaving and stuff, these guys, these
assistant coaches, former assistant coaches were leaving for lateral moves, leaving Buffalo a
team that's this close to winning a Super Bowl to go now, I'm gonna
go somewhere else. I don't even want to be here. They left on
They left on their own, like Heath Farwell and the Heath Farwell, the
special teams coach, left on his own. He was the guy whoever they
tried to roll over on for the special team's call when the ball was kicked.
It was miscommunication. It was really nobody's fault, which ultimately means it's
McDermott's fault. But he left on his own because he didn't want to be
around McDermott. And then the same time, the wide receiver coach, Chad
Hall, he left on his own. And that story is hysterical because McDermot
didn't really want to pay him that much. The wide receivers loved him.
They bought him a truck, they blindfolded him, they taped it, They
brought him out to the parking lot. We got a surprise for you,
and they bought him a brand new truck. And this guy was moved,
and other guys said it was a dark day at one Bill's dry when McDermott
found out about that. That's your leader, that's your chief, that's that's
that's your commander in chief right there. That's not something I want to play.
But do we think that, well, I know, how do we
know that some of this stuff is? I always just wonder who's going on
the record and saying things you don't you know what I mean? I always
take these are the greatest. We'll talk to Tyler and find out for sure
too. But one of the things that a nooised the ship out of me
is I hate the secrecy. Tell me who it is. Yeah, I
know, because look again, there are people who've been in and out of
my office. There are people who probably are working there right now. They
could say horrible things about me and the decisions I've made in terms of how
I want to run my business. Connors, Can you believe anybody would say
anything horrible about your son, your baby over there? I don't don't.
I don't think she would actually crist but you know the point. You know,
for me, as I look at it, it's like, Okay,
who's saying these things? Yeah? I mean, look, that's always my
question no matter when I read these kind of articles, I always go,
who is it that's saying these things though? And what is their motive?
Why? Why do it? Because I will tell you I think everybody at
this table has some point in their life could talk ill about somebody. Yeah,
well I have no, but I mean we could not. I'm not
saying yeah, but I'm saying you could and probably have thought that what good
my thing is? What good comes of it? What good is going to
come of it? Unless you think this guy is really hurting the organization,
which over the past couple of games we have questioned a lot of the play
calling and the dime outs and the different things. There are certain things that
that are in the article that I don't disagree with. Yeah, right,
in terms of some of his decision making, I don't disagree with that.
But let's focus on those things. Don't focus on the sensationalism of these other
circumstances that to me discredits his article. Now everyone's like, oh, the
article is now verified, it's credible. Because if McDermott admits to saying these
things, that's got nothing to in my opinion, it's got nothing to do
with the credibility the article. For me, the article is about his perspective
about mcdermot's decision making, and again some of the things I don't disagree with.
But when you start bringing in these the relation something from four years ago.
But I don't know. You had said earlier that McDermott had already addressed
this speech in twenty nineteen and the press he did. I didn't, I
actually did. I don't remember that he did. No, he didn't trust
in the press. He addressed to the team. Team. Yeah, he
just to the team. The team it's old news. You know. Tim
Gramma's double checked that and said, with the team, it's old news.
I already knew it. When I say the the press is that the players
heard it. They were there. All the people that he allegedly heard this
from were there at the time. Not one of them went to the press
and said this is what we're said right. That to me means if you're
offended by it, yeah you say it then, Because to me, that's
called situational ethics. That situational character, of situational integrity. That to me
is the worst type of person. Yeah, I agree with that. If
I do something wrong today, tell me today, let's talk about it,
Let's get through it, let me acknowledge it, let me work through it.
But for you to like, well, that's what I'm saying. It's
four years ago, and I I mean, if he spoke to the team,
how is anybody outside of the organization affected by it? You understand what
I'm saying. My only point there is to try to make him look bad,
which another loss. And I think that article and it would have been
you would have that would have been it first to me on the whole thing.
It took me an hour and a half to read that whole thing.
And the reason is because while I'm slow and two, I had to go
back and reread some certain paragraphs. Wait minute, did this really happen?
Of all the things, of all the things, of all the things in
that article, the nine to eleven stuff as a bills fan bothered me the
least because what Greg said, I mean, look, they buried it.
It was over, it was finished and had nothing to do with his coaching.
It speaks more to just the fact that he is not relatable. It
has a hard time communicating to me, which speaks more as a leader that
more than the nine eleven robs. He lost people on nine to eleven.
Yes, okay, he wasn't trying to be He's not. He's not He's
not an al Qaeda type of person. And that's what the local media.
And I'll say this, those none of those bastards read that article. They
didn't read the article. And I'm not gonna name any names, but they
didn't read the article. And I know where they are. Hang on,
hang on, go up, hang on, hang on a second, hang
on us a d. I did not look at anything on Thursday night.
There was an emergency podcast to talk about I can't believe. I can't believe.
Show McDermott simpis. I'm like, of all the things in that article,
you picked out that part. And by the way, that wasn't in
the free section. You had to pay for that, so I know if
you found that you either heard through the grapevine or you didn't read the whole
damn thing. Well, I didn't realize he had Tyler Dunsite was paid.
You sent me the article, You said me you copy, didn't send it
because yeah, and there is a pay wall, which is how Tyler he's
an independent journalism, I feel like to pay him. Part of the article
to me is even more despicable. So he was using that in order to
get himself his payday as opposed Look journalism, journalism is so different today than
it was two and five years ago because he got to try to grab those
eyes, you know, right, And so what was within the paid part
sensationalism. So what is why why are people going to pay to get there?
They're going to pay for the sensationalism That to me is the erosion of
credibility. It's not an enhancement of credibility. I just I would have appreciated
the article more if I wasn't distracted by the attempt of the writer to sensationalize
an area that really is irrelevant because for me, you know, he talks
about McDermott's rigidity. Look, I've talked to you guys about you have and
also his awkwardness is something out from the little excerpts that I read, there
was an awkwardness, would you say with McDermott also using point but there was
some other analogy that just went nowhere. It was something about the weather or
a storm or something that had come in and how Buffalo and it almost was
like Buffalo was resilient. But it never came to that. He made He
made a couple like off the top of my head of cat. Remember he
made another analogy that was that just fell flat. But I mean that people
just didn't get behind. You've spent time with McDermott, You've been in probably
meetings with the guy. Is that a fair assessment to him being somewhat awkward
personally a little bit rigid like he seems to. I mean, obviously the
man is extremely disciplined. He is. I mean, if you look at
him and you look at Andy Reid, you could tell who's got more personal
know what I'm saying, by the way, who holds their body to a
higher standard. I'm just Tyler. And Tyler references that article and he compliments
him and said a lot of players to look. His intentions are pure,
his goals to win a Super Bowl, period. It's just that there's a
lot of this do as I say, not as I do stuff. Was
so from the free stuff I read, and I don't mean to beat this
up too much. But I also I'm glad you said that because I feel
like there was a piece in the article where he's saying, hey, McDermott,
we can't throw Basically, what's the saying, throw the baby out of
the bath water, And that's not what he says, but that's sort of
the analogy that comes to mind because he's saying that he brought that he got
us to the playoffs for the first time in so many years, and all
this has happened under him. But is he the guy to push us over?
And I think that's been a question for a lot of people. But
you're right, the sensationalism and the whole thing that got focused on was the
nine to eleven people. So the criticism I have of Sean and we've talked
about this and it's kind of evolved now subsequent to the Eagles game, because
I just thought his decision making there for me was maddening. Yeah, you
know, the use of the time out, taking the knee, you know,
and his for me. One of the other things with him is that
his inconsistency of being disciplined he holds James Cook and his issues of handling the
ball at a certain level. He doesn't do it with Gabe Davis, and
Gabe Davis as a captain. For me, I'm a servant leader, and
so servant leaders, and Sean mcdumber is a servant leader. But so you're
supposed to say when you're a servant leader, that means that you feel the
rules apply to you as it applies to everyone, whether you whether the rookie
or whether you're the highest paid veteran. The rules are the same and you're
held accountable to that, and his rules will hold everyone account with that.
I don't see him doing that, at least outwardly. And I'm not on
the team meetings. As you can see on the field, you know,
you take James Cook out, you keep gave Davis in in those games,
and it's weird, it's odd, and I think you lose the team in
those certain states. And if you're not losing the team because they understand why,
who you're losing is the external communications now because we don't understand why,
and then you're losing us, which is part of your constituency as the head
coach, as the CEO. It goes back and forth. It's like an
vicious cycle. And then all the sudden, you just lose everybody because one
feeds into another, which feeds it back and then boom and then the result.
The end result is if the famous the playoffs this year, they might
point to this and go, yeah, you know what, Seawan, that's
it, and not just missing the playoffs, but if they missed the playoffs,
was something another inexplicable moment like thirteen seconds where you're like, oh my
gosh, or zero blitz against the Eagles which resulted in a touchdown, or
calling a time out at anopportune time. If he continues, if they missed
the playoffs again, because it's something stupid by the head coach, you gotta
sit there and go, he's he's lost everybody. I mean, let's be
honest, dude. There's a couple of guys who defended him. Michael Hyde
defended him and Dion Dawkins defended him when shot. This has been documented today.
Josh Allen Ti Tim Graham reported this on Twitter. Was asked by Matt
Perino Syracuse dot Com to speak about coach mcderbott. You know what, His
response was, no comment. Now that may have changed. Right now we're
taping this. They're doing press conferences. Right now. That may have changed,
but that speaks a lot when your quarterback is going on. Let me
tell you. Let me tell you the PR department of the bills right now
telling Jos no comment. I'll tell you what that PR department needs a lot
of help. No, I think so well, because the thing is is
that at this point I shut it down. Maybe they was playing defense,
but I'm a lawyer and I'm going to tell you I was Josh Allen to
say no comment, whether regardless of what his personal feelings are. I don't
care if he thinks he's the greatest thing since sliced bread or if he thinks
he's the biggest piece of ship. Your response is no comment, you know,
And I think of it. It couldn't like something say something, but
hey, look we support our coach. He's our guy. Hey look we
just means no comment. Yeah. Yeah. As a mother, I was
coming over here and on the radio they were trying to go to him and
saying something against McDermott, and he said he's I think he's a fine man
and a coach. We're going on the field, We're going to win.
And that's the end of this subject. Okay. Oh so he did,
okay, all right, yeah, okay, because it's about two hours before
game time, he wouldn't talk. You know, No, for me,
when I when I think about this whole this whole circumstance as it as it's
evolved, is you know again, I try to think of it in terms
of my life and in terms of business, in terms of life. So
Bill Moran has said on more than one occasion, Burier entry, Now that
is one of the things that folks ship. Not No, I freaking completely
barrier to entry. And I what you did, well, why you think
of that? You are what your record says you are. When you come
back, I'll let you know. Buffalo Bills coach Sean with Dermott apologized after
giving a speech to his players where he used nine to eleven terrorists as a
good example of teamwork, which is kind of a full circle moment because when
Osama bin Laanen was giving a terrorist at teptalk, he told him not to
be like the Bills. All right, there you go. Saturday Night Live
even had a little fun with it. All right, we'll take them all.
We'll see if if we can jog Greg's memory. I'm sorry. Greg.
Apology of his mom timeline. There, I'll sit in time. Wasn't
it isn't a drinking game? When Bill says Barrier, Yes, yes it
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invested in it, but I mean, doesn't actually play the game. Get
like this. This is amazing. You know. I feel emotionally invested because
all these years, you know, it goes back to my dad and all
my dad financial investment. Yes, it just adds to that, and so
you know, and you know, and I love sharing the experience with my
friends and family, but I lose myself because you know, being competitive and
driven. I want to win and I feel like I'm part of the team,
and I kind of I don't use common sense or I don't I'm not
very good decision I wouldn't say that, but but hang on, this is
uh, I'm just trying to have I'm not sure which video it was or
what I said. No, it's only one. It's only one, and
it's over a call. We only bull again, which means I need to
keep their chance to be So it's so entertaining, it's great. The worst
part is that that's not even what like two weeks ago the Dane Eagles game,
it was like that times ten. He was on a kneeling in front
of the TV praying to God's So I didn't come to that one. Well,
we were going to do the podcast Little Children here, so it was
a little bit more. Actually it was just Kevin, my mom, and
Jennifer and I were here and that was it. It was a very quiet
crowd, but you were just just left. No, I was so one
of one of one of our friends was here and they have young kids.
And then it was prior to that is that halftime they said when their son
came in and I was here. I said, this is effing bullshit.
The kids were like yeah, no, and driving a car around the pool
table, and he said, this is f and bowls. I forgot what
it's like. Friend Christy was like, I looked at my son and I
said, that's mister Connors speak, not yours speaker. He did. So
it was after that, so I was trying to try. I tell you
did a job of editing yourself. You get on the fly. You know
your halftime adjustment. You were great. That was a halftime And so when
Kevin was here again with an Eagles game, there was no filter. Yeah,
I'm very glad you played that one because it was clean. Yeahs,
I have to get the soap out sometimes. Actually, at the Eagles game,
she said, if you don't stop, I'm gonna pull the soap out.
That's so funny. Well, the Eagles game, so I had been
around little kids. I'm normally not around my nieces and nephews and all my
sons, but my guys are older. But one of the kids had like
a little cold or whatever. I my eye got all red. I was
afraid I had pink eye. It turns out I went away the next day
but I'm like, I don't even want to be around anybody until I see
a doctor, just to make sure that everything's all right. So that's why
I didn't. I didn't want to come over. Well, you would have
been entertained. I know I would have been entertained, Yes, but I
don't want you to think like I feel the passion and I was so uptight
during this game tonight. I just can't outwardly express it. I will want
them alone. Yeah, but I mean, your mom's here. It was
a much different vibe this week. I mean last week it was like four
people. This week we had what about thirty five? Yeah, we do
need to know, though, who were the Connors and Ferris Blonds of the
week that we're here. Kevin has been waiting all day to ask that question.
Just that way. So Carly and Aaron and Aaron's boyfriend Chase, I've
been friends with them for actually I've been friends with Carly for gosh six seven
years now. One of her, an old friend of hers, was a
friend of mine business wise, and we were down in New York City the
Bills played the Giants back in back in New York. I think it was
twenty nineteen okay, And we saw him down there at the game and then
at the airport and we came back and we saw, you know, we
were hanging out with him and stuff and got to know him, and the
COVID happens. COVID happens, and we became we were friends. That was
awesome. Less is more paid by the word, you know what. The
first plce there. There is something about the wisdom of moms. Oh yes,
sometimes moms can say this like so much in so little, right,
it packed so much in so little. It's it's the it's the best speak.
The two of them are wonderful. Yeah, medical professionals helped the community.
Chase is a great guy. He's a hockey guy. I should have
talked to you introduce to Chase. Chase is a hockey guy. Played at
Brockport, played in the junior league Canadian stuff. Uh yeah, Kevin's uh
do nothing about hockey, the junior league Canadian stuff. I don't know junior
leagues in Canada. There's jor leagues everywhere. I think there's a junior league
team here now, junior animal lower level. But it is a junior team
and they're playing in Fairport. And I forget who's the owner? Who owns
the team? Is it Galasano? I don't know. Yeah, somebody who
was funding that. I don't know what is who's doing all that? Oh?
Actually one of Galasano's partners from paychecks who was part owner of the Amerks.
No, it was the other one, Turk, it was it.
Oh my god, I can't believe. I can't remember his name now,
super nice guy. He was in with Jane and Tom and he was like
their hr guy, part owner of the Amerks. I think he might be
involved in but okay, I don't know. I don't know think about hockey.
Tom would know two hours. We need to get Tom on the show.
We want to We want to find out the real behind the story of
Grege. What do you mean, the real behind the story of Greg?
I think you can't get me more real behind the story. I feel like
Tom can tell the story. I'm not. I would sit no, I
would say, what what you guys have seen? This is what it is?
Yeah, which isn't? I like Mom says, talk less, listen
more. Yeah. Last night Kevin and I went to see Doug Phelps Crush
It at the Comedy at the Carlson, and then I wound up on the
West side a bar. I've never been to the Long Pond Pub, and
I want to give a shout out to the Long Palmd Pub and the bartender
Heidi, because uh, I dropped my bank card, oh floor, because
I don't want to walk around with my wallet's too thick. Yeah, I
have that problem to No, it's like you know what I'm saying, like
the dad wall, it's the credit yeah, but it's the whatever like yeah,
So I so I just take out exactly what I need, right,
I took out that I need and then every time I do that, I
wind up dropping them. Yeah, and I and it's it's terrible. But
Heidi was great. Get the little pouch for the back of your phone,
Yes, you're right, and then uh, when you lose your phone,
then your phone. Right. Heidi was great. And then Kevin went over
and thank you. Kevin went back to the Long Pop Pub because I'm like,
but I uber Grady's getting a PS five for Christmas. But I wound
up back at Doug's house and I and Doug is now texting me, how
how weird is this? Doug finally woke up, so Doug. Doug wound
up calling me. At one point, Doug made I went back to his
place after you dropped this off. He makes dirty martinis. I don't drink
dirty martinis, but I'm sitting potent, potent, potent, But so I
drink maybe two of those. Get an uber, and I'm gonna have the
uber take me back to the truck, which is a comedy. At the
Carlson the guy pulls up, he has to wake me up. I go,
how about you just take me right to Fairport again? Oh my,
sounds like a good idea. It's a good decision. Bell And so I
had to re enter in all the uber stuff so he could do it,
and then he declined the right today, I had an uber back out and
get the truck. But it was it was fun hanging out with the darts
and talking shit. So this is what I can tell you. That sixty
five seventy five dollars you spent on that saved you about five grand. If
you made the wrong let me let me or your life or your life or
someone else's life. Oh five grand. Yeah, But believe me, I
have some firsthand knowledge and it's and it's not more than that. Yes,
yeah, but so good decision, Bell, Yes, it was a great
decision. Well, thank you, thank you. I was very proud of
myself too. Actually, when I woke up this morning, I was like,
less's more. Bill was entertaining. No, but I have you ever
had that where you've passed out inside an uber? No? No, No,
this is the second time for me this year. No, I mean
you might have a problem. Well I may maybe maybe, I don't know,
Like I I can't remember the other time that Uber's like, hey,
hey we're here, and I'm like, oh, okay. So one of
the things is, but I knodded off from Fairport to Fairport, will be
setting something up with you here for some life coaching. You're single. You're
single, so you don't have somebody to help you do your barometer or to
help you get you home. We don't have to be there, Uber,
because I've done that in my own car with somebody else driving me. Yes,
yeah, but I've never done No I did. I was out in
a number and then uh yes because even today I got a call from a
very famous fairportyan uh Damian Ulconnry, wondering where where the things have been,
And I said, I've been laying low. Then, I said, but
I was actually out. How you doing on the west side, said the
long pond pumping? He goes, where the hell is that? Heidi Kevin?
So I look at Heidi Doug. I said, Heidi, how do
I I know you from somewhere? And she goes, yeah, in eighty
six, I used to work at MOC. She did not, She said,
I used to work at Monconner's. I used to work at Montconnor's.
Yes, he is. He likes to. He likes to start all kinds
of total He loves the stir ship. He loves to stir the ship I
learned from the best. The ship, he says, is funny but always
so wrong. What did you say game a bunch of times? No,
but the nine to eleventh thing like, he says afterwards, what did you
say some derman mod thing? Alla act bar la la la victory information call?
He did? You had a couple of dirty ones too, I did
too. I did. Well, that's what That's what happened. Once in
a while, you're rubbing off on us. That's what it was. But
it was a it was a good time last night. And thank you for
taking me to the west side, and you didn't take lost Doug bugg Doug
did Doug by the way, I shouldn't say this, and he would get
upset. But I go, Doug. Somebody goes, what's Doug's place?
Like I go, it's like living in a fort, like a little kid's
fort. Like you go in there and it's all like crowded, and he's
got all this like forty nine ers stuff and all. But I mean it
is cramped in there. He's got a plant that out. I go,
your plant. You know those swings that they have. I have more those
sex wings, well for your plant. I kept calling it the sex wing
for your plant. But it's like one of those yard things. The plant
has exploded and it's sitting on the window sill, but the plant hangar is
still hanging there with nothing. And I go, that's a single guy.
That's this single guy who's never been like lived with a woman. I don't
think Doug ever lived with the plant. Holder might have been there when he
got there, he left over I don't know, no, because the plant
because I go, hey, you're a plant out through the sex wing?
Huh yeah? Over here it's the thing and he has the gloryhole right by
the front door there. I have no idea. I was like, and
you're walking up, there's cases of beer on the stairs up to his apartment.
I go, what's going on here? Because it's the delivery guy stopped
keeping a nice and cool outside. Yeah, but I thought he had a
great Uh did you mention that he had a great like rehearsal studio area.
No, he has a microphone with a stand and it's wireless and he just
sits in there. You know what, it reminds me of all the stuffed
animals as his audience. Do you know what he does stand up for them?
Do you know what? It reminds me of the wedding crashers when Owen
Wilson is getting all depressed and he starts practicing in his in his living room,
when he was like before he met Don't Kill Me books. That was
the That was what it was like with Doug last night. All right,
well, uh, we'll take them all. We'll keep it a little short
tonight. I want to call my mom if you don't mind. My mother
is having hip surgery tomorrow now. She was supposed to have hip replacement surgery
on Tuesday. The doctor called and moved it up a day. She gets
herself all wigged out all over all this stuff, so it'll be fun to
UH to listen to her. We'll see how calm she is. My sister's
spending the week with her, and then I will spend Christmas week less your
sister. And by the way, I remembered what do you mean I remembered?
Oh yeah, I remembered your point. Okay, the Bill Moran point
which I listening to the podcast. I've learned so much in a year.
This was one of the things I learned. I just got distracted. Well
all right, well sorry, wait, wait, wait, what was the
thing that you learned, because then I want to say something to you.
What I learned was that Bill always says it's the boss's role and job to
understand what motivates his personal and the people that works for him, because that's
what your job is. Your job is to listen to understanding and to appreciate
what they want to motivate them. And for me, with McDermott in that
situation, it's McDermott has to learn from his this situation, which he has
he hasn't in the past. McDermott is stubborn and he is rigid. I
hope what he learned from the situation and the Eagles game was that he needs
to learn to outside people is in part to influence his decision making, such
as the timeout situation. He's been highly criticized for that national media, other
coaches rip them him taking the knee, ripped on it, and hopefully he
can he can begin to get perspective of others within his group or outside that
to give him better perspective in terms of how we should just go through decision
making with the perspective was to win as opposed to not to lose. Let
me ask you, going back to the article that Tyler Dunrode can something like
an article like that? Just out of curiosity? I always wonder could it
help McDermott if you can you read something like that? It stings if you're
McDermott. And I don't know that McDermot will read it. I have no
idea, but let's say he did. He read it? You think so?
You do know that I don't know it, but you would think so,
just knowing the man from what I from what I note, what I've
heard within it's been read, Okay, does he would he? Then?
I mean at first that that first sting, and Danny and I were talking
about this, like when you do something that's so personally who you, it
becomes a big extension of who you are. Yes, you're a dad and
a husband and a family man, but really you're Sean McDermot of the Buffalo
Bills, and that's a lot of your identity. So it stings when these
comments come. Obviously you have to have thick skin and all that, but
this one's a little more biting, and even to the point where they prayed
the out in front of the press and you have to apologize for a speech
he gave four years ago for whatever reason. But could you would you think
he's the kind of guy that can almost take that ten thousand the macro look,
not the micro look, and look at it and go all right,
you know what, there are some things here. Maybe I need to be
a little less rigid, Maybe I am coming off this way, maybe people
are saying this, or does that not something that will penetrate him? I
think that that question is the question for him, you know, because do
I think he could do that? Prior to this he hasn't in my opinion
right now, will this be the catalyst? Because this stung because this was
personal. Yeah, I mean, this was something that he tried to do
the right way. He tried to I mean he he is, I mean,
Sean's a good person. I mean he's he is a tried and true
American he I mean all the things he was trying to motivate his team and
try to garner his team in a manner it was bad decision making in terms
of using the analogy, but he took it personally because it was a personal
He felt this was a personal attack. And so the thing is is that
there are certain things in your life, you know, for me in business,
or you and your business. You know, we've all been through those
things. How do you respond? Right, life is ten percent of what
happens to you and then ninety percent of how you handle it. So how
does he handle it from here? Does he use this as a catalyst to
become more open and inclusive in terms of his decision making, or does he
then become more confined because he can't trust the people who were here or are
here. If you do that, it's not going to be productive. I
always think, like you know, in radio was such a who you know,
who you were, and especially in the beginning of your career, you'd
have to sit in a room by yourself with the boss and listen to a
tape of you on the radio, and it was always very uncomfortable, and
so you would try to not take those things personally. And I actually think
that was as much as I hated it, in a way it was a
good exercise because as I went and more humbling humbling, but also maturity comes
in when you get older and you see things. Because my thing is I
always have people go, well, I don't know anything about what you do,
but uh, and I would say, hang on a second. You
have ears, and you know what you like, and if we're not doing
something, what is it? Maybe I'll agree, Maybe I can, because
a lot of times if you can step back sometimes you don't know, a
good idea can come from anywhere, or or something that's gonna maybe smooth the
edges a little bit. I have a good idea we should have Sean mcdermoy
give your mother a pep talk before I gotta tell you, you know,
in terms of our office, in terms of our nine to eleven is the
best inter Vienna. Oh my god. You know, operationally from my office,
the best ideas have come from not me but from others. Yeah.
Right, And it's do you listen to him? Well, I don't know.
I know you don't have good well, Ray Dalio. We brought this
up last week Ray Dalio, when he wrote the Brook Principles. Ray Dally
has big claiming the fingals he was a huge hedge fund guy. He predicted
a huge crash in the eighties and it didn't happen. So he had to
reevaluate because he bet against the American economy and he lost. And everybody's like,
ah, you got an egg in your face. So he went back
and he realized, I got to listen to more people. I got to
surround myself with people don't necessarily agree with me, yes, people, and
to help him get better. And you know, and I think in Bill's
Bill's point again about you know, a boss needs to know what helps motivate,
what's going to motivate you, and and then work towards that is that
you want you want your team, the people that work with you, to
feel comfortable and confident and trust you that they can say things that you don't
like. And you're you're not gonna take it personally, You're not going to
take a vendetta against them. Well, that is the most important thing in
terms of a healthy, enriching environment. It feels like you would want to
do that more now when you're seeing some people take jobs, move away from
jobs, want to work from home, switch out that if you can build
that, Hey, I know you want to be at your kid's soccer game
every Tuesday and Thursday at three o'clock. That's fine as long as you get
your work done, you know, I mean know what makes them tick.
I feel like that's an important thing. And people buy in, He'll run
through walls for you. That was in the article two. That was the
article that Sean was not good about that. And at one point he found
out that a guy had like they knew this guy was going out to lead
to watch his kids play soccer, and he's like, I'm gonna add more
hours to your worktime. So if you're not gonna work harder, I'm gonna
get that extra hour out of you. And that turned a lot of people
off too. So those and and that's kind of my point is is that
when you're at the level that he's at those decisions to get the productivity that
you need, but also you provide productivity. You've got to look in and
you've got to be humble. And my criticism of Sean through the years has
been hit and this is my perspective his rigidity in terms of flexibility and adapting.
I mean, you succeed in high level professional operations in business on being
adapted to the circumstances. You have to be adaptive, which means you have
to have a perspective other than your own so you can then respond to something
that you didn't anticipate. That to me is the critical part of business.
I don't care if you're Terry Pagoula, if you're Sean McDermott, if you're
you know, Joe Biden, Donald Trump. That you have to be able
to adapt to the circumstances. But you can only do that if you hear
something that you didn't think of yourself, because I look at it and I've
got my perspective. If I don't know your perspective on the other side,
I can't adapt to it. So you've got to open and hear it so
then you can prepare a reply and be prepared to respond to it. I
feel my opinion is is that Shawn's rigidity in the way that he looks at
is so structured, is so strong, one sided. He hasn't taken that
full three sixty and appreciated it. I'm hoping this article that was he has
taken, that is very personal, was very personal, gives him more of
a perspective of you know what, I need to think about and look at
all these perspectives so I could be a better decision maker in the last thirteen
seconds, the last two minutes and make these decisions. Now. We talked
about and at that last possession, fourth down with the Chiefs and we watched
a replay. I love what they did on defense. I saw that as
adapt to the circumstances to what happened before they jammed Kelsey right Floyd Leonard Floyd
made Kelsey go inside him. He gave him a jab. You had Douglas
riding the other receiver on the inside Jandom at the line, which they did
not do at thirteen seconds, and Van ran underneath them, So you got
to throw the ball over top of you. Then they had safety coverage on
the top. It's got to be a perfect pass Mahomes didn't make the throw,
they win the freaking game. That to me is progress like that,
Like that, that's why it's so exciting. Look, we want, we
want you and I. We want Sean McDermott to succeed everything we want.
We want to win a super Bowl. At him for winning a super Bowl.
But that's what I'm saying. Winning. Winning is like the sav for
everything, right, if you win, it makes everything go away, it
does. I believe he's always been like this. I was going to ask
that he's always been this competitive. Yeah, yeah, that's driven backyard man.
I'd go after my older brother and I we'd freaking go at it,
and if you lost. He ate mud Pie. And he was down at
the neighbors one time and they were playing ball and the ball went through the
window and broke the windows. So the mother came out and I said to
him, I hope you ran, because if you don't run, you're gonna
be blame for it also, and you're gonna have to pay for it.
And I can't remember what happened. I went and got the ball. I
was freaking the game. Got the ball. Well, you know, we
have her keep it. We can't finish the game or has the ball,
and we didn't have enough money. We didn't have enough money, We didn't
have two balls, we didn't have two football what among the three families we
had one football? They were out of timeouts? You got it. So
did you pay for the window? I think we cleaned it up. I
don't remember. I'm sure my parents paid for it. I think I cleaned
it up and my dad probably gave her the twenty five bucks to fix the
window. There you go. Yeah, that sounds about right the way it
should have happened in the eighties. Right, Yes, all right, we'll
take a moment, uh, and we'll check it with my mom who goes
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Please come home. So he is one of my favorites. No,
I'm not a fan of you too. I like it this and Mariah Carey.
Yeah, I spared you the Mariah Carey. I thought I would spare
everbody the Mariah Carey. I like this. Had I already put us out,
Danny, Danny and I we played it, Yeah, we're out.
Last year we used to have Danny call up places like in the South,
like an I hoop or a waffle house, and all he could do was
sing the first line of a Christmas carol and we would guess would they sing
it back or hang up? And he can't say anything else but sing the
first line the hall with bowser and then he pauses like that and so yeah.
And sometimes you'll get somebody with a good personality, and sometimes he just
who is this? Who's this? Why? Remember? What do that?
For? The Bills Miami game January for January seventh, that week leading into
it, what was it? The one time to go? Is this?
Ray? Is that you? So it's funny. Randy called me, uh
twice the other day, called me and I couldn't answer. And then I
get a text, call me as soon as you can. So I start
to think that every every once in a while because I always I know his
family, I know his parents, and all they think this day and escar
history was I'm hoping that it's nothing bad. So uh and then I get
another their call and I didn't answer, and so now I call right back.
And he wanted to just tell me that Tony Stewart he's going to be
driving his wife's dirt track car this season because they're trying to have a family
and she's not going to be in the car, so he's going to drive
the car. Big news, big news, Get out of here. But
that's but that took a call, a text, and another call, and
I'm thinking, like I go. And it was two weeks ago. He
did the same same process to tell us that Brad Keselowski bought the Ricky Bobby
House. The Ricky Bobby He love that the pool tilt to work. What
was on Lake Norman in uh, just north of Charlotte. I don't know.
Yeah, I think it is actually because my buddy Mike Zimmer. He
used to live next door to me here in Pittsford. He lives down in
Lake Norman and we went we were out on the boat and he was going
through and he's like, hey, there's some some guy owned this house and
he's NASCAR and he goes I think that house was in like one of the
movies, and I was like, holy ship, that looks familiar. I
can't because it was. It was Telligate Knights. Yeah, Talentigan Knights.
That is it beautiful? So what's happening here? I just you'll get your
Christmas gills closer. I don't know if I'm going to see greg again before
we're going to bring brought Gregor president. I don't if I'm going to see
him before Christmas. Oh here we go, yeah, wow, wow,
shot bills Kevin. That's great. He brings that. He walks into the
stadium with that. The censors go up, Wait, you know what this
is? This is Greg Connor, come on in. Actually we should have
used these shot glasses. So when Kevin came into the man Cave earlier,
he had to be cleansed of all the bad k all the bad mojo of
the prior bosses, the Bills and the Patriots. So we did fireball shots.
Why fireball shots to do the deep cleanse because that is the shot that
Josh Allen's family does before every game because are from Fireball bell for California,
so that's what they do. So that was our mojo Bill shot that Kevin
did with Dan and I. Now Dan had to participate because of all the
bad mojo that Kevin projected on it. Again he did kept Kevin is not
going to go down taking that place. He was going on a second dance
there for every loss. It's like kind of like a yam Kapora where the
high transfer the sins onto the goat escape coat solid, though there's a couple
of spots out in the petty of that sod smell like sentiment because they went
over my shoulder instead of like gell. It very solid. And Kevin was
he was he was stand up man. He was legit. He said he
came in he was feeling with the weather. But he did it, and
he did it first, and I was like, wait, wait, wait,
we gotta do it together. We had to do a toast with the
shoulder two over his shoulder. We had to do it together because we had
to do the toast to get rid of the bad karma, we had to
pour another one. We did it then, so did a whole speech.
Was yeah, I hold in sense I was running a little late, and
I'm listening to the game, and I, oh, this is great.
Greg's going to be in a great wood. I'm basically so happy They're up
fourteen and nothing. Oh it was good. It was yeas very good.
It went sideways, but damn we came out. Look, every game is
a playoff kick out totally, so you got to just keep winning. And
Dallas looks pretty ferocious right now, by the way, O right hang on
side. You were me that that was me due these are fantastic. Man.
My mother said she was going for a shower, but let me see
if I can get it before she gets to the shower. Oh, I
was trying to get you before you got in the shower. I apologize.
We were running the are you had what? What what did you say?
You're going in the shower with your special towel, I said, him going
in the shower and then I have to use special pwels to dry off with.
Oh yeah yeah your body, Yeah yeah, your son had that special
towel he was seventeen to So we were just very happy because the Bills won
today. Mom, yes, Dorreen wrote and she said, the stars are
aligned and you'll be signed with the Bills. One yes, yes, yes.
And so we're at Greg Connor's house and his mom is here, and
his mom had had both hips replaced, and she said, yep, and
no she's bionic now. But she said, like it was the best.
It was so like it was a life changing surgery in a way, like
you can move again and you'll get through it. It's easy now. I
don't want to say surgery is easy, but from what my aunt did twenty
years ago to what it is now, such a different process, such an
easier process. They use lasers, the posi, Tony, did you have
an anterior or a posterior? Well, I have forty eight stitches down my
leg? Oh forty eight stitches down your leg? Yeah? My doctor did
side oh side, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, so I don't
know what that is. Mom, from it poster this and Terry to start
going to do a lot and then you can bend forward right away. Otherwise
you can't stand forward. But I'm having a poster. But that's because yes,
okay, so I won't be able to you know, it'll take a
little longer recovery, but it'll be fun. Yeah. Well I'm good.
You sound fantastic. Well, I feel really good since your sister, okay,
or a bad thing that she left, right gregecting, I was projecting
on my own sister. No, but yes, I had a really nice
evening. We were to ty food, a little wine. We watched a
Christmas movie, so it was nice. All you didn't watch the Bills game.
I'm disappointed in it, but that's okay. I didn't want I forgot
what's up? I know it's so disappointing. Well, I I wanted to
make make sure I talked to you. What what time are you leaving for
the hospital? We're going to leave here at eight o'clock because it's so far
okay, yeah, right, it's literally at the corner. Yeah, you'll
walk and when the hip's better, your surgery is at eight fifteen. You're
leaving at eight, yeah, because the hospital is like I mean, that's
right, Yeah, it's literally like two houses away. That's how close she
lives. Now that's great. Yeah, so it's right there. Oh,
you'll love it. It's a miracle operation. Oh I'm so glad to hear
that. I really am. So hopefully I will have to result you heads,
yes you will. Well, that's great. The exercises three times a
day when you're home three times a day. Yeah, you were doing all
that before, so that's not something. Get nowhere, yes, and getting
nowhere right with all this all that? Yes, I know, all right,
Well, best of luck with everything. And uh, I hope Kate
treat you well and I will find out. I'll give you a call early
in the morning. Okay, good, all right, good luck, It'll
be great. Praying for you. We'll think you all right. I love
you, mom, Thank you very much. Your mom is the most sultry
voice. She really does. She gets really wigged out and then she does
not have a good, uh experience with anesthesia, like she gets very sick
from it. Change. Well, see that's the thing, is like,
I don't know why does she tell them that. I think she did tell
him, And then I was there with her with the uh the next surgery,
and all of a sudden she's like, how was she feeling from that?
By the way that she I mean, some stuff is better. But
it's the hip. So she's walking. She's actually using the cane right now
and is very bothered by it and very embarrassed by it. So did your
father offer to help her out? She say no, no, But my
brother always says this thing. He goes like that so much now because we're
all together for Thanksgiving. So they everybody was wonderful and it was and they
looked like Griswold Thanksgiving. They ought to do that Griswold Thanksgiving. They should
do that movie. It was nice, you know. They and they are
fine. I mean they're not together, but they certainly get along fine.
And uh, my brother always says to me, he goes, if you
talk to dad, dad will go, oh, your mother, God,
she's a she can hardly walk because they're pushing each other into the graves to
see who get there first. To say, my dad's got neurological issues going
on. My mom's like he can hardly move anything, and your mother can't
even been over entire shoe. I worry about you know. So there's like
my brother goes, they're having enough race to see who can put you into
the great first. But I think my mom, my mom's mom lived in
ninety six, you know, and yeah, agg was like, we've been
drinking and doing everything, and so I think that everybody will be fine.
Mom is is a beautiful eighty plus year old vibe person? Yes? Really?
Yeah, I didn't get that. No, I mean not the vibrant
part, but not the eighty part. Say that, oh that business.
And my dad was fifty nine when he passed it away. I know,
so Greg is six years six years buddy, I know, well, you're
gonna be fine. Who was it from the Tennessee Titans? Uh? Like
white fifty two years fifty two. They think a lot of He took a
fall in his house and they found him. They think I might have been
ct he had had he'd had some problem. He had to retire from his
radio show because Craig he threw the home assme throw forward. Yeah, that
was him. He's city miracle. Yeah. I remember watching that in an
airport. I was coming back God somewhere. That was only twenty two years
ago. Can you believe that? Yeah? I mean, see, I
always see when I now, I always say to these guys three years ago,
this is terrible. But when I see someone in my age range that
dies, I'm always hoping it's an overdose. He's right, it's something that
they're doing that they shouldn't be. Yeh, you know, because I go
I don't want you know. Yeah, Like, there was a woman from
extreme weight loss who just died. She was forty and I didn't know who
she was. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm forty three.
What happened? And they found her in a car. She went to chip
It's gonna all day. She went to Chipotle and she never got home and
she died in the car. And somebody called the cops and said, hey,
there's a woman just sleeping in her car outside the Chipotle with a full
bag of food. She was in her forties. Yeah, but they said
that she died of complications to obesity. Well it could be did she lose
a tremendous amount of weight. I don't know she put it back on.
They didn't say like that. The reports that she had they had time to
check the she had a full bag of food. He was trapped in chips
She's not going to be you know, we're you know, being single,
Yeah, and being you know, Luke is going to be he's graduating in
gym. Why is he gonna. Has he decided where he's going. You
know, he's looking at Alfred. He he got accepted as a mechanical engineering
program at Offer, which I'm extremely proud of and his mom is very proud
of. And he has he's did really well in football this year, and
he's done very well in track his junior year and started off had his first
indoor meet and doing well. So the track coach, football coach would love
him to come down and see if he could fit into the program. So
it looks like Alfred, which I got to love. Man. I mean,
that's that's my freight, my soft spot. Am I allowed to ask
questions? Sure? All right? Ask him. I believe there's a dorm
on the campus. Is there not a dorm named after you? There's a
dorm named after my family? After your family, Okay, Connors's not called
Anne Ferris. She should have a dorm right after her. How cool would
that be if you got to be in the dorm that Like I don't know
if I don't know if that would be something you'd want to share with people
or not, So that's something you'd want people to I don't think your son,
he's very no Luke is very low key. Ye, Luke would if
they were like very bright, he would be like, yeah, my name
is Luke, and what's your last name? Like, yeah, Luke.
If they found out it would be Connors, they'd be like, is that
your family? Be like yeah, maybe not really. I think it would
be kind of cool to let that slowly dribble out. So the interesting thing
is that the dorm that's got our family name on it is an upper class
residence. Okay, And so Luke as a freshman would be in the freshman
dorm. Yeah, so he would not be in that years could potentially.
I would never do that. I don't I would never do that, But
there could become a point in time later in his career down there where he
could be in there, and that would be an interesting Yeah, it would
be that would be funny. So there's a chance that hell yeah, right,
there's a chance that he'll be going there and playing football. Yeah.
I mean, you know, as a fresh college do you think we see
we see passion Bills game? Whoa, yeah, it'll be Fisher. A
Fisher be the defensive backs coach. And you know, we talked about me
being the owner of the Buffalo Y future owner of the Buffalo Bills. So
the head coach at Alfred, the ed coach at Alfred, I've been friends
with for twenty five years. And he's a great guy. And uh,
he and I talked football at the time he comes to the Bills camp.
We talked during the season, even before all this. And I mean,
Luke is a very talented, very athletic kid. And he's and where he
fits in to their defense. You know, he's got to figure that out.
Was he playing defensive back? He was playing He played some defensive back,
he played some safety, and he played some defensive outside linebacker. He
met he had some really good successes outside linebacker because of his speed and strength
and his tenacity. And so they're like, you know, you could fit
into our game at outside linebacker. And when I go to their games,
I actually am very very laid back. I'm more nervous for his games than
I ever was and when I played ever Yeah, yeah, And I can
see now where my parents were like that, did you get very nervous watching
him play? Yeah? At the at Alfred H. High School as well.
Was it a big deal in Hornell? Like the Friday Night was the
game like the Pine Plains. It was like the event. Yeah. I
mean in Hornell Friday nights, you you went to the Hornell football games and
then you got pizza King Pizza. And that's what two thirds of the population
the city Hornell did when we would go to sectional champ we go to Sectional
games, literally half to two thirds of the city be gone. You know,
we'd be an Avan, we'd be up to Rochester. And uh,
I mean when you go to sectional football games now Section five, the smaller
schools have bigger crowds in the largest schools because we are so right. It
is so in best and that's what Hornell was. Uh and uh but yeah,
so Luke O and Alford. I mean for me, I just want
him to succeed and academically be successful and have a great experience like Jordan's doing
that Roberts was in right. And I mean, like I have said repeatedly
to Jordan all the time, I wanted him to go to Saint Joe's.
That was his first school he got in or like I think I think he
did early admission and then turned it down. Wow, And I was going
on, why Jill, it's a beautiful and it's it actually goes in the
city. And now we looked at that, and we looked at the pea
and I said to him, you know this what a great school. It
looked like just a great place. And uh. And then he's like,
I really want to be on a track team and they're doing this. I
really want to And I thought Roberts is so small, and I thought,
I can't imagine what this is. And my brother goes, not your life,
man, Yeah, And I think I might have been the best advice.
So I backed off. And now the kid is close to breaking the
school record for weight throw. And we actually watched a woman set the division
two she set it and broke the division two pole volt record just this past
Friday at Nazareth And and were you there, Well, that was we were
there. Luke had an indoor track meet, but it wasn't the same track
meet. We were at Nazareth, but not for that meet. Yeah,
this was this, This was Friday night. Yeah. And then Jen Sure,
who is the Olympic pall vulter who went to Roberts Wesleyan is now the
coach there. Kidding yeah, And they and this girl left Duke and transferred
to Roberts Wesleyan. I don't. I guess it must be because she left
Duke and she has she right now and they even announced it she had broken
the record and and then she rebroke it and set it higher. I think
it was like fifteen feet or something. And I have to tell you as
a parent, you know, and as a friend there, we asked you
to go out someplace. I can't remember what it was. I say,
hey, look, we got this going on out comedy thing, comedy comedy
Charleston. And I say, hey, you know, we got a friend
who's going to be there. Let's come. And You're like, ah,
I'm gonna go watch Jordan. I was like, you know what, that's
what life is about. Well, I asked what you did? I mean,
as a parent live, Yeah, I needed to. That's awesome.
Jordan gets in love all jacked out, but he gets like really like quiet
and intense. And I'll say, and then where does he get that from?
But then when the shot put, he's doing shotput as well, and
he I guess he didn't do as well as he wanted. And all of
a sudden I see him like, go, why did you step over there?
I know what I'm doing. He fouled on purpose. He felt like
it was not a good enough throw, so he stepped out the front.
The thing that embarrasses me is one of the guys who's officiating comes over and
goes, hey, I really like the podcast and talk about for a good
five minutes, and he goes, I've always wondered if this is your son,
I've heard you talk about it. And then all of a sudden,
he's like getting himself all because he steps out of the ring. I go,
what, Jordan, what are you doing? That was not good enough?
I'm like, okay, okay, but yeah, And you know,
one of things that is one of things I worry about Jordan is I think
Jordan's i mean professional career path. You know, he's interested going to law
school and being a lawyer, and I think that's perfect. And you know,
going to a school like Roberts and having an athletic competition and training and
discipline, that to me, truly is what helps you prepare yourself professionally.
And you know, you go to Duke, you go, you know,
you do that. You go to Saint Joees, which is a great school.
But it's like, what's going to prepare you best for your professional life.
I think his experience is for that well, because I even said to
him, look, coming out of high school, I didn't which sounds terrible,
but I didn't think you were a good enough athlete to compete with that.
And then I said, so here's the advice I have for you.
Don't listen to anything I say. You know what I mean. But you
pushed yourself and you transformed your body. You were a skinny guy and now
you're you know, you're jacked and you lift wight. You love doing that
and it's great. And that's what you know. With Luke, it's like,
you know, you know, he's a high school senior. And I
look at the men that play college football Division three. This year, Alfred
Brockport, I mean, Courtland is playing in the freaking NC Double, a
Division three national champions always in the one Double at New York. Now,
first of all, there's never ever been to upstate norsketball teams ever, cross
lacrosse, they've had cross, they had all three actually, but I mean,
it's like, you know, so it's you know, And I said
to him, I said, Luke, you can do whatever you want in
your life. It's based on what you want to do, whatever your goal
is, whatever your objective is, if you set your mind to it,
you understand the path they get there, you will achieve it. You just
determined. Fo. Yeah, I agree with that because otherwise it's a job
and you have to put in as many hours. Right, So if you're
following your passion, and there's things, there will be things you may not
like about doing certain but but overall it's a love for it and that drives
you even further. I think. And the passion comes from the Italian and
the Jamison side comes from the Iris. I have both. I did want
to say this because you did bring up like we had the uh the one
year of the podcast, but the first sponsor we had was Greg. You
were the first one because I I was I wanted to do it for a
month, see how what's this gonna work? What's I gonna get listens?
What's I gonna get this? And all of a sudden my phone rings dingy
and Greg goes, all right, here's what I'm gonna do. And I
was like, all right, caught me completely off guard, dummy. And
then and then I waited about another month and then I started hustling some others,
but that was the Uh. Yeah, you were the first sponsor.
So I appreciate that very much. Thank you. I mean, you know,
for me knowing you who you are as a person and knowing your passion
and your professionalism, I knew that whatever path you're going to take. For
me getting that push and that encouragement to do what I wanted to do my
way, yeah, I really that that that gave me the momentum to go
forward. And for me knowing you who you are, giving you that little
push, it was all I could do. And I was like, if
I could do that for you, God Bush you that was that was that
was awesome to kill that. We've been pushing and pushing and uh, I
think that even bigger things for this year. Yeah. Meanwhile, Tom Ferris
officially has no comment. All right, well there's the other side. We
will close it out. What a win today. Finally, finally, what
is uh Andy Reid saying? Andy Reid has said that he was upset that
before a lot of times he has told his receivers are told by the referee,
you're okay, You're okay. When you come up to the line,
you're okay. And they didn't tell Kadavius Tony that he was okay when he
crossed the line and they threw the flag. That's what he was upset about.
He says, the NFL, the National Football League, this is an
embarrassment. That's what those are his words. Bull crap because it's already happened
to him once. It happened to him in the AS champions game against Patriot
in twenty nineteen. Right, shut your mouth and coach of players. Wow,
looking from the high ropes Kevin, that's won high five on that one,
by the way, And that's what again, But he's gonna hit me
again, That's what Mahomes is going off about. At the end of the
game, he was yelling at the refs, A yeah, I agree,
play the game, dude. Join the club of guys who gets strewed by
the refs. Okay, well this time, it's nice to be on the
other side of this. Who Greg, do you feel like the pressure off
now? No? He doesn't until Tuesday? Yeah, right, all right,
can't wait to enjoy the wind. For Greg Connors, for Missus Connors,
for Dan Kevin. I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow and stop
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