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we'll talk about what's do in Bitch. But in this week's episode, in
for the Culture, we are talking about J Cole doing the most J Cole
thing possible. And let's talk TV. Some fire movie trailers have it dropped,
And in Bitch we give an update on our lives. I got an
update on Carpenter Bed, so by all means, let's get to it.
This is for the culture, for the culture, for the culture. This
is where we pick a headline and ask if they, she or he did
it for the culture. You guys, J Cole did the most J Cole
thing possible. He really did this. Man dissed Ketchrick Lamar on a Thursday
and apologized by Sunday he did, so let's I mean, I guess if
you've been living under a rock Metro in Future drop their album we Don't Trust
You, And on there they have a song called like that is Hard a
sample to Everlasting bass sample and Ketchach Lamar is on there, and I feel
like everyone gets really excited because Ken Drake drops every now and then, like
now he's hat the surprising Us, but he definitely took jabs at Drake and
J Cole and he's talking about first Person Shooter because you know, a lot
of people are trying to say he wasn't as direct, but I'm like it
clearly was a jab. He said first person Shooter when fuck the Big Three,
it's just big Me and yeah, people were in a tizzy about that.
J Cole surprise drops an album. What was it like a week later?
Maybe m M two weeks later, yeah, yeah, it was like
this past Sunday, maybe Sunday before, yes, yeah, last week whatever
called my delete later And on the last track is seven minute Drill where he
is coming for Kendrick Lamar and honestly gave him some bars a little bit.
I'm I don't hate j Cole You guys, right, But and I used
to love him when I was like in high school, but here you grow
up in your taste cal Like, I really don't hate him, but like
he is, I'm like a big rap fan. I'm a hard critic and
he is a little corny to me. That's some suspect bars that I just
cannot get past. And yeah, he just became a little bit of a
snooze fest to me. I'm not gonna lie lately, okay, but when
he when he first dropped it, I'm not gonna lie. And I'm not
saying Kendrick's Verse was overrated because I like like that, like and something that
does put it over similar to what Drake dig to Meek Mill is that like
it's a club record, Like people want to dance to it, Like that's
the best thing you could do in a dis if it's something people are dancing
to and just like bumping. Yeah, I saw someone tweet like, uh
they play like that the hair salonise girl started to working, Like if you
could do that and just someone at the same time, like that's he It's
really gonna be played everywhere. So I love like that. I played it
in the in the in the gym, like that's like one of my go
to songs, like it gets me going. I will say J Coles was
a lot more direct. Yeah, Like he was very much like Kendrick fucking
talking to you, like justographies trash all this shit that he was saying.
You know. But wo that being said and back to Kendrick, I feel
like Kendrick did just have that one bar which was still a little little ransom
das it was more of a warning shot. It was Kendricks wasn't like a
full disc. It was like a little warning shot like hey y'all, calm
down, I'm still the best. Yeah, fuck y'all. So what I
did respect about J Coles was that it was more direct. But did I
agree with anything he said, Like he tried to say tip a Butterfly wasn't
good? M Yeah, questionable question. I know a lot of people that
I like that album personally. I can see why some people don't. It's
not for everyone, but there is something about J Cole and iking it.
Like if you were to tell me was J Cole's favorite kend I thought it
would be butter Fly or you know, people do those like Twitter threads where
it's like rappers as shoespers as Kendrick Lamar albums makes sense. That makes sense.
That makes sense now that I'm thinking about it, thinking about Kendrick's whole
discard graphy. Yeah, right, jakele would be that, I'm like you
lying as like I just don't believe you, and then like I forgot what
the other bar was, like, oh, like if he ain't disoniss we
wouldn't be discussing him if he ain't dissini uced or something along those lines,
like we're only talking about you ever to come back and disc people. But
it's like, literally in first person shooter, did you not name him right
exactly? Top three rapper? Yes he did. I was gonna say that.
I was going to say that, so you were discussing him in your
latest single exactly, and now so the fact wasn't mathing. I don't.
I was still giving him points. I was like, wow, yeah,
how did you feel about disc in the first case, he definitely wouldn't have
done that if Kendrick did not fire those warning shots, because yes, I
was gonna mention he did say that he was top three, right, Like,
I wassah, that's kind of crazy. He's like, but I digress.
Yeah, I know for real, second thought up to him, Yeah,
giving it's kind of giving wishy washy. Yeah, but I was like,
are these bars? I don't know, but I will give Jake Cole
the proz for being direct. Shook shut up, and I'm not No.
I am kind of hated on this album, the Big Steppers album, because
on Twitter everyone was basically defending to Pimp a Butterfly, like whether it's trash
or not, because he has some other bars about like he tried to use
uh he basically sole like all of jay Z's from Takeover, Like that's a
lot of hot album every ten year average. Like he said something similar,
but it's like Jake y'all drop albums at the same time, like that time
frame. He said, y'all dropped the same amount of albums in that time
frame, Yeah, the same Like it just wasn't making sense. But like,
I'll give you an a for effort, because, like, like I
said, it's more direct all that. Ship of course had to he had
to respond, He had to say something, and he did it was he
did he drive it home this question at his own music festival, what is
the dream film? So it's called Yes, apologize for ninety seventy two hours,
you guys, seventy two hours he took to apologize. Let me pull
up the audio so you can hear what he had to say. I put
out this project on Friday called Mike Delete Later. I don't know how many
people don't checked it out or whatever. I put this project out, and
I swear to god, I'm so proud of that project because I know one
is just a leader. It's just an EP that leads me up to this
thing that I've been working on for a long time, and I know the
work it took to get to a certain type of skill level. And I
love this shit, so that shitn mean a lot to me writing. So
I'm so proud of that project, except for one part. It's one part
of that shit that make me feel like, man, that's the lamest shit
I ever did in my fucking life. And I know this is not what
a lot of people want to hear. I know I can hear my niggas
up there right now, like, nah, I don't do that, But
I got to keep it one hundred with y'all. Right. I damn near
had a relay as right, because I heard the ship that happened two two
three weeks ago, however long it was, y'all, y'all, y'all heard
that from Zuker that was dropped on the motherfucking game, right, So,
all of this time of me moving on my own accord, for the first
time, I was tested. Why am I tested? Because I got the
world and I got my niggas, like what you gonna do? Call exactly
my niggas, like bitch boy, I must have had a thousand in this
cause, oh my fucking guy, text flooded. I couldn't even answer my
ship nigga's war time boo. Right, niggas want to see blood. And
I was conflicted because one, I know my heart, you know what I
mean, and like, I remember you how I feel about my peers,
these two niggas that I've just been blessed to even stand beside in this game,
let alone chase chase their greatness. Right. So I felt conflicted because
I'm like, bro, I know, I don't really feel no way,
but the world want to see blood. I don't know if y'all can feel
that, but the world want to see blood. So I say all of
that to say in my spirit of trying to like get this music out.
I ain't gonna lie to y'all. I moved in a way that was that
I feel spiritually feel bad on me, Like like I try to like jab
my nigga back and I try to keep it friendly. But at the end
of the day, when I listen to it and when it comes out and
I see the talk, that shit don't sit right with my spirit. That
shit makes me feel that shit disrupts my fucking peace. So what I want
to say right here tonight is in the midst of me doing that and in
that shit trying to find a little angle and downplay this, this nigga's fucking
catalog in his greatness, I want to say, right now tonight, how
many people think Kendrick Lamar is one of the greatest motherfuckers to ever touch a
fucking microphone? Dreamville. Y'all love Kendrick Lamar? Correct as do I.
This is all it is, so Corney. Oh my god, Wait,
that's my first time hearing the full thing. I was conflicted. Yeah,
to my point, To my point, Jay said, Jay Cole said all
that stuff just to say something because he had to say something. He felt
pressure. Yeah, he felt pressured. So that's why nothing he was saying
really like nothing really hate like and there's so many people that like, I
know, they love j Cole and they're like, you've never been a situation
where you know you fucked up, like he's maturing and like, you know,
we can't be like rooting for violence. First of all, the whole
violence take. I need everyone to stop it, like this is rap.
It's fun. Like everyone was tweeting like this rap is a sport and part
of it is the beef. It really is. It really is A man
that said, you've been on my mind, like Kaepernick Nilan, I'm not
thinking, oh man, he's gonna shoot Kendrick, like it's gonna turn the
violence. The man that said, I let you feel like this shit,
but you can outfart me. No one who's believed that was like guns and
violence involved. I promise you they both like or like semi conscious wrappers or
like you know, talk about like deep shit like even Kendrick. I mean,
Kendrick, I don't know. I don't think they would have got there.
So everyone talking about like, oh, we can't promote violence, like
shut up, shut up, shut up. It really did give. I
felt pressured. I had to say something, so I said something. And
that's like straush am I thing if we're gonna call him mature, like the
mature thing would have been, I respect him if you just never said anything,
but you already said some shit, so stand on your ship. Yeah,
but to go back and apologize is so fucking corny, Like I've never
seen anything like this in my life. Agreed, Agreed. I hate rap
music right now. I didn't. I'm not gonna lie. This not my
big three, not my victory. But that's crazy. And anyone like trying
to cap for this, you're crazy. I don't want to hear. I
don't want here know it was mature. We need this, no bruh and
he dm your like needs rap probation, Like I feel like you should go
to like rap jail or something like this. He probably apologized because what he
was saying wasn't like, it wasn't good. But then we just apologize a
lot of people there. I don't know if I agreed, because okay,
my timeline was definitely divided. But even for me, like I liked J
Cole's diss I thought he was bugging about tipip A Butterfly and I was gonna
mention this earlier, like a little Joki joke. Ain't nobody defended the Big
Steppers album though, Yeah, And what I will say, there's there's like
three songs I do funk with on there? What is it rich Spirit?
I keep calling it rich PARI it's not. And I wasn't there for it.
I wasn't. I wasn't feeling it. I don't know it. I
do that that song, how does it go? I already forgot? See,
wasn't that great? No? Really, she doesn't know y'all? Are
you strap? Brother? Like? I love that song, but I'm trying
to think of the chorus because it's funny, but I can't think of it
right now. I'm just having a rain part. I'll think of it later.
But to me, it was an album that it's like when you see
a really good movie, but you're like, I'm never gonna watch that movie
again, Like it's replay value just wasn't there for me. It's not my
favorite Kendrick album. I'm not gonna lie. I mean, there was a
lot of hypho it because I get at the storytelling all that stuff, But
it wasn't it but it's funny because he does that one to annoy one,
like not a lot of people were defending it, like it's like, oh,
might have been true. I did like what he said, like I
actually was exciting becau this does shake shit up. Like I love Kendrick.
I'm a big fan, but there is stuff like when we talk about the
goats that I will argue with people, Like there's a lot of stuff that
I'm like, I don't know if Kendrick is there, you know. So
I was excited about this and then this motherfucker just like went all the way
back on it, Like I just I can't wrap my rinder around the fact
how corny this is. And I think the mature thing to do if if
you are going to talk about that is more like, well, don't blame
it on your boys were pressuring you, you know what I mean, Like
that's not really yeah, and you know what, the main question, the
main warning shot was like that you not like that, and you just proved
that period. So like that definitely wins now, Like I would have gave
Joe Colt if that was like a battle, maybe give him point, but
he just lost all points. And now you need to go to rab jail
and sit in his little corner. Lakolmar One, j Cole zero Yeah negative
bro on the map count boy card though has dropped. So good, so
good? What do you guys say? Okay, So for me, I
think my favorite is definitely I like Levigene so much. Really post Malone sounds
on that s it's so good. I don't just like post me on.
I saw him live. He's like a good performing I forget, like,
oh you got that song young, but I'm not in love with him.
But I was like, oh, like, you're talented. I'm in love
with him. Bro that he went off on that so good. Okay,
So Levi's Jean's top tyrant crazy. Yeah, what about you guys, it's
almost wanted. It's good to Oh my god, Bro. Her and Miley
Cyrus' vocals like blended, so perfect. Miley is on the whole track,
She's singing the whole time. Yes that is, that's not that's we're both
on a chair together. They're like going back and sport like together. I
haven't heard a true duet like that in a long time. On they don't
make him like that anymore, especially from her, you know, like don't
do that exactly, And I mean I always love Miley Cyrus' vocals, like
even I'm not the big Bangers fan like that era either. Yeah, respectfully
here that's like his favorite. Yeah her when she was like in her crazy
face, I remember like kind of being over her. You just feel like
she's annoying and I'll never forget. She came out with her MTV Unplugged and
she did a cover of Arctic Monkeys. Why do you want to call me
when you're high? And when I tell you this bitch snatched all her respect
back like it's honestly one of my favorite covers, like ever, like it's
in my top ten favorite covers. She flipped it. And even if you
like, go on the YouTube comments because you know, like people who are
like into alternative and like rock, they can't wait to shit on the pop
bitch, you know, like they hate it. Everyone of the comments is
like, damn, I love art and Monkeys. I gotta give it to
her, Like I don't even fuck with but this is Hella good Like she
like flipped it, made her own song. She fucking killed it. I
need to watch it. I'm gonna play for you right after this fucking episode
from this, but wow, absolutely kills it. So I always like had
respect for Miley's vocals at least even when she like annoyed me as an entertainer.
I love her now Honestly, I love Miley as an artist all around.
But no, she did that. I have Bodyguard on repeat. You
do take the top off off my fucking jo. Yeah, I al really
have like turls in my head that I want to make to it, like
I just pretude a wrong com like, like yes, honestly, that's how
I feel about Leva Junes. Yeah, I just I haven't played I've listened
every time I've listened to the album. I've listened to it from start to
finish. I haven't chosen the song yet that's my favorite because I take it
Beyonce really seriously and it's really hard for me right now. I need you
got asked me like a month from now? No, because yeah, I
don't know. I don't know for sure, and I feel like it's gonna
change every week to like I'm always every day. That's how it was a
renaissance too, like this is my favorite and then like my favorite now was
not my favorite when it first came out like it was probably my favorite for
the first time and now like probably Alien Superstar, you know what I mean.
Like transitions on this album, Yes, Solowless so good. I do,
I will say, because yeah, I'm like you two baby, but
I will say I do. I don't know if I have a favorite,
but I do love the second half of the album more than like I was
gonna say that, I was gonna I think it's a good transition into renaissance
too perfect like all she made this way before, like it goes right into
it, and well, yeah, that second half is very renaissance e.
And I saw that, you know me with like theories and all this stuff,
I well, no, this is actually this was actually kind of cool.
So I saw one a little bit after the album dropped, and it
said something about like like how cool would it be if Act three is like
really the beginning, so like say, like you have to plan the backwards
for them to make sense, and because of the whole second have been very
like renaissancey, they're kind of thinking like okay, like it kind of transitions
into it perfectly. So imagine like a trilogy art piece that's like you could
hear it from the chronological order that she released it, but then also reverse
like that's pretty sick, that'd fire. But I have a theory that Act
three is going to be a straight bounce album like the Way River Dance.
A lot of the records have like very bouncy feelter and I can hear it
just being like straight up like New Orleans, I'm here for that. A
lot of people are saying rock. I know, I heard that rock and
gospel, which I thought was interesting, but I don't know if she'll do
that. I thought rock would make more sense just because she's very in her
like we're taking back what's ours, you know, like this is a big
fuck you to like those white and like this album literally was made off her
being petty because some white people pissed off and said you can't be here.
So she was like, bet, I'm about to make it. Liked fucking
album period, So it would make more sense for her. That's rock because
like literally Elvis, everyone, every famous rockstar you could think of, hes
still from black rock stars, like it started with black music. Sidebar,
did you guys have seen that clip of like Dave Girls, how they still
from the Gap band? No? Oh god? That might be the end
clip for this, but it just goes to show like people are Everything starts
with black musicians. But he's talking to Pharrell and he basically says that smells
like teen Spirit. They stole all that ship from the Gap band and when
he met them, he was like, dude, I've been stealing from you
for years, and the guy was like, I now I think I've seen
it. Yeah, fire, but that'd be cool. She did a rock
one, but I am kind of reading for a Bounce album. But you
know, Beonce is gonna make it fun either way. Yeah, I'm rooting
for it all. I'm excited either way. But this album is really perfect
and it's exactly like like you said AV two, Like it's really sensitive about
Beyonce and we really got to sit with it. But I'm already feeling like
this is like one of her best albums that she's done, like the production,
the vocals, helf she said this is she tells that keep coming out
like she was at a iHeartRadio Music Award, she got the Innovator Award presented
to her by Stevie Wonder Iconic Iconic and then just casually, as you know,
he's like announces her. He's like about to leave, and she's like,
oh, thanks for playing the harmonica on Jolene, like what and it
just like random to like, oh yeah, they willly Nelson to do like
the background guitar likes like random legendary ship, Like she's really all about the
details and it shows. Oh I love the one that for all produced the
sweet Honey. Yeah that would go crazy too. But yeah, river Dance
right now is like on repeat for my uh playlist. That's a good one.
Okay, Okay, that's my damn a little squat Okay, guy.
You know what, A lot of people are like criticizing the whole like writer's
credit thing and how there's like a bunch of people on it. But I
kind of like that she did that because a lot of people are finally getting
like recognition that never did before, you know what I mean, So like
now that all these songs are charting, Like Linda Martell, for example,
just like is finally on the top one hundred on Billboard, which she deserves
to be years ago, but I never had the chance, and had it
not been for like giving her credit, you know, those kinds of things
probably wouldn't have happened, So I applaud her for that. Yeah, and
I guess, but it's like a lot of those artists that you think did
all on their own, like they just exactly, they just haven't credited the
people that they need to, yeah, books, whether it's in the songwriting,
whether or like there's people like you see cases come up all the time,
like hey, you actually stole that whole ship from me, you know,
like like bands come out of nowhere, like actually, yeah, that
sounds really familiar. I'm finally gonna get my piece for it. So exactly,
I agree with you ab on that one, but I love it still
running it exactly. I don't know if I have a favorite honestly my favorite,
I I my favorite or might just like infatuated with it at the time,
you know, like the Sun is coming out, that's a song like
right when I get in my card as a song per song, I play
and then I like play the album and then I feel like there's categories for
me too, because I think about, like what's my favorite song, like
vocally, what's my favorite song? Lyric wise? Dead lot? Yeah,
fully becoming to me like an all time Beyonce record, Like it's the top
five greatest song She's ever met. And I love Daughter. I really like
Daughter. It's very like dark and very like Yeah, it's about Beyonce,
like like a surface on the surface, it's like her getting rid of over
some girl for doing god knows what. We think it's like cheating or something,
you know. But then when you like peel back the layers and look
deeper, like there's so many ways you can apply it. And I don't
know, like lyrically, I really like that one too. Uh yeah,
I love shit Talking Beyonce. Hot Take the Joline is not my favorite.
Uh it's might be my least favorite from the album the least I'm going to
the least for me. Okay, this is my thing. I love Beyonce
like it's fun. I will listen to the cover there is I and I
love Shittalking Beyonce. It's my favorite Beyonce of all the Beyonces there is.
But there's nothing about Joeline that's like very vulnerable and like that's like the whole
theme of the song, and like Beyonce is a vulnerable at all in it.
It's more like fuck you you know what I mean, which I like,
I said, I love shittalking Beyonce. But like for Joline, that's
what makes the song so great is that Dolly is so vulnerable and so like
defeated like in the record. So yeah, that's all I'll say about that
one. Maybe you can interpret it both ways too, though, you know,
like maybe if it wasn't Beyonce, but like like if if you're talking
all this shit, like sometimes there are people, probably not Beyonce, but
there are people that like talk hot shit because they're vulnerable, because there's insecurities
there, you know what I mean. So if you look at it from
that angle, maybe, but coming from Beyonce, she's not known to you
know, she's known to be a bad bitch. Like yeah, yeah,
well in that same message, I mean, no, I don't think that's
being vulnerable, but I will say we already have anthem of that, Like
sure it's being mad about the situation for sure, but I feel like we
already got that with Ring the Alarm, Like that's that kind of anthem right
there, So like that was kind of already fulfilled with me with Ring the
Alarm, and I just wasn't getting Angeline, like Joelne's a record to be
vulnerable and sad like, that's totally not what she's being at all in that
record. If I have to choose between ring their Alarm and Joline ring the
Alarm, yeah period, right right right. So as far as like the
theme and the message, that was already fulfilled for me. But I'm not
I'm not hating on now. I'm just saying like it's probably my least favorite
for out of all the okay, all the songs, but I love that
one. I think it's perfect. I'm gonna need her to hold off though.
On and I was a tour tour. I'm gonna say I got the
batch trip coming up, man. I got my off here ready. I'm
wearing my Halloween Yeah, my Halloween costume. I was a cowgirl. It
was so cute. I learned that to be next tour. So I got
my offit covered. I don't have it like because that I don't have it
owned, but I have a outfit already in my head. Okay, okay,
yeah, yeah, yeah, I read I have a few literally Beyonce
doing the culture always. J Cole absolutely not. Let's talk some TV real
quick. I haven't really been on my TV game, but what I did
do is for the very first time. Before I say this, you guys,
I just want to let you know. When I was younger, my
mom was so strict. I couldn't watch anything. Like I was not allowed
to watch American Pie, which I'm gonna bet right now I still haven't seen
ever crazy, but I was not allowed to watch anything. I was allowed.
I watched wrestling. That's it. As a kid channel, you got
wrestling. Yeah. I was able to watch wrestling Disney Channel, which oh
quite on set. We're not even get to that, but I guess she
watched some of those shows either, uh Nickelodeon. With that being said,
these past couple years, I've been doing some catching up on some TV shows
and I finally watched Sex in the City for the very first time. I
actually just finished it last night. The series, Yeah, I get the
hype. I did love it. It is. It's a great background show.
Yeah, to have on I don't know. I don't know if it's
because they finally put it on Netflix. I watched it on HBO though,
but it's crazy, Like on my timeline, there's been so much Sex in
the City like trends and talks and about how like Carrie because she's the main
character. Now she's just like insufferable and like, what is like there's one
right now where it's like, where's her worst moment and people are like stitching
it it is, And yeah, I agree, But honestly, in the
beginning because my friend, one of my good friends, Christina, she like
already watched. She's the one that was like, you need to watch Sex
in the City. So I was like, Okay, I watch it.
I think we watched episode together. We had like a little wine night,
and I was like, it's okay. But then I like got hooked on
it, like I do. And the first couple of seasons, I was
like, I don't get why people hate Carrie, Like I've sucked with her.
I thought she had a personality, bitch. I don't know if it
was season five, but when they cut this bitch's hair off, short hair
was nice and they got rid of her personality when they got rid of her
hair, because like, that's when she becomes insufferable. Samantha best character.
Did you guys watch Sex and City? I was gonna say, I've never
seen it either. I have seen like one of the movies they made it,
unto a movie. I've never seen it. I saw one movie,
No, not all of them, and I've never seen the show. Yeah
there's like about it, right, like or like yeah yeah there's yeah,
yeah yeah yea that the situation still remove. I don't know who's Sarah Jessica
Parker's character Carrie Brett. Okay, I know the character Samantha, that's the
one who doesn't come back, which now I totally understand why people were mad,
because she literally is the best character. She's like I don't want to
call her a home but she's very you know, she's open with her sexuality,
like she obviously around with anyone she doesn't care. But she's also the
reallest one and like the most truest to herself and very like I don't give
a fuck. She tells me how it is. But she's also like low
key the greatest friend on there. We love that. We love a good
friend. She's such a good friend. And then there's this other girl,
Charlotte. It's four friends. So Charlotte is very she's like kind of a
prune, but I love her. She's actually my second favorite character. She's
starting to teet to herself too, and she's a good friend. We love
good friends we love? Are they all good friends or no? Carrie,
it carries a little trash. I'm not gonna lie. She has some she
has some moment. I literally just said she was a good friend. Carrie,
Charlotte is a good friend. Oh sorry, sorry, I don't know.
Is she like Phoebe? From Friends? You have to say people friends.
She's one of my favorite characters, but I think out of all of
them, she's like the most shittiest friend if you really look at it.
What if you really look at them? Disagree? No, you can rewatch
it? No, tell me, please give an example, Like I love
Phoebe. I'm trying to think going off the in my head, but like
she's always the one that's like looky, like not like she's the funniest one
and everything, but like she's lokey, the one that like will put you
down or will like say your ship out, like you know, Like I'm
trying to think of an example, but you gotta watch it like low key.
When you look at it, you're like, dang, like Phoebe,
like that was that was harsh? You know. No, I'm gonna have
to look back and you have no. I love her. She's one of
my favorite characters. But when you look at it, she's so sweet to
Joey. She's also really real, but sometimes it's like she like, out
of all of them, she might be. I feel like she talks shit,
but like it's a ship that they need to hear sometimes. Yeah,
I've never heard her say an thing where I'm like, oh, that was
so and Phoebe shouldn't sure I could find a TikTok on now send it to
you, Okay, okay, Well, because I have my theory is that
Ross is the most trash one out of all that. Oh he's yeah,
he's a little He literally hooked up with one of his students. It was
barely legal. Crazy uh like debated and almost dated one of Rachel's friends.
Like if my boyfriend ex boyfriend ever dated my sister to even think about it
is crazy. Like he respected her when she finally said no, but like
the fact that he even thought about doing it. Yeah, trash. He
uh shit it on Phoebe when like she thought that the cat was her dead
mom. He's such an asshole, like damn bru let her think who's acount
her dead mom? I would agree. I have to say Ross and Okay,
maybe they weren't on her break but you didn't even wait twenty four hours?
Yeah, like yeah, let me count the ways this man is crazy,
great character, like he has this funny moment, but as a friend
and as our person, I think he's the most trash one. I would
say so too, Yeah, wouldn't sa Phoebe is what I would say.
That's kind of I'd have to think about it, I think about I would
have to, but I don't. I would like to hear one. Yeah,
I disagree. I'll be back on Sex and City. Samantha best one,
Charlotte Prune but second best. And there's Miranda, who I guess is
cool, but like she's only kind of interesting when her boyfriend's around, like
her small storyline. I'm like, oh, at the beginning, I liked
her, but then I was like, huh, I just want her to
get with Steve. So And the reason why I'm refusing to watch the movies
is because, like I already rest of spoilers, like they have Samantha and
her boothing breakup and they're like so cute together. I'm not ready to see
that. Just stupid, and the writers have my girl fucked up? Will
mad spoilers, but they give her cancer at the end. Samantha, there's
actually a famous there's a famous gift of like a girl taking her wig off
and like pointing, have you seen that? Gu No, I always see
it on Twitter, like it's actually from Sex and the City. I was
like the Leonardo TV, not her wing, like if it's gonna be like
the first one that pops up, let me see, I'm gonna write,
No, it's literally the second one. It's the slow motion point. Wait,
Chris, I want to say, I want to see. I don't
know if I could turn this around? Could that's all funny? So yeah,
the iconic show. Maybe I'll continue. I don't know. I feel
like avoid now that it's over. You know what I have watched though,
not The City, but I watched Carrie Bradshaw's like her origin story. It
was like this girl what is it called? It was Austin Butler was in
it. It's like a documentary or something. No, it was like a
I guess you would say a spin off, but it was Carrie Bradshaw as
like a teen trying to make it in New York. Like it's like it's
her beginning. It was an old show. It was only on for like
a couple of seasons and then they canceled it. Let me look it up
and see what it's called. Yeah, I guess that shit is iconic though,
like it was called The Carry Diaries The Carried, starring Sophia Robb and
Austin Butler. I literally love that show. I haven't seen Sake in the
City, but origin, yes, it was so good. I love the
c W, of course, I love like the c W. Shit,
I love the CW. Maybe it's one of those things where you have to
watch that first so that if you've already seen Sex in the City, it
doesn't like yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like I don't know,
I don't know real sex and the City fans signed off in the comments,
but have you seen this? Have you seen The Carry Diaries on? The
looks crazy? But yeah, so it was. The Carry's love interest was
Sebastian, who was Austin Butler. I loved that's so funny. It was
on from twenty thirteen twenty fourteen. So another thing about Samantha, she always
kept her a bad one, like she sucks the cutest guys. Really,
she's that bitch. She's she is that, and she's rich, like she's
the richest friend. We love thought she's like a publicist or like a pr
agent or some shit. Good friend always gets with with hot guys rich let
me count the ways. Yeah, like okay, that unapologetic about it.
That's what's up period all around. She's so great respect. But we did
just watch the Joker trailer. Yes, and I'm not gonna lie that little
and shot was hard. The d shot the cinematography on it, who was
directed, I don't know, put some lipstick as a smiley face and bro
like smiles right into the lipstick. So no, that was hard. I'm
not gonna lie. I am weird because it's supposed to musical, right,
I didn't know that. I know they've been We were talking earlier like how
off the off the record, how a lot of these like movies are hiding
that there musicals because people probably hate musicals and they think no one's gonna go
like exactly the color purple. I like, I found out like way later
that that was so. I didn't know that that was one. I remember
we had like how to do promo for mean Girls, and they were like
saying, don't call it a musical. But I'm like, isn't the title
literally like mean Girls the musical? Yeah, but it wasn't. It's not.
I think it's just mean Girls. And then remember when they first dropped
the trailer, everyone's mad because they're like, there's the music. Yeah,
because I feel like that one was more known that it was going to be
musical, so they like super tricked everyone. Yeah, but it's like half
the their targeted audience knows it's a musical, right, and like now people
will almost shit on it more because it's like ill, so it is just
a remake. Like I feel like that's what almost made it more popular,
Like that was done for them to hide it either, because why would you?
And then the Wonka No Wonka is the one that I did. I
was shook it. Yeah, I'm like, yeah they are, like I
did. I feel like I saw a tweet but for I'm gonna have to
double check. Don't quote me, but I did. I remember I saw
like someone reported. I think it was like deadline or something that they're like,
not only not only is it a musical, but they're like covering like
known songs. Oh yeah, I wonder if that ruins it a little bit
I feel like maybe yeah, because I'd rather see like original songs. I
don't want Joker being like and after all, especially because like if you've seen
the first one, like that movie is very like it's intense. Yeah you
either loved it, Yeah, yeah, I love it, and lady I
go on this one, Like if it was that same type of vibe,
I think it would be a really great movie. She'd be a perfect Harley
Quinn. Yeah, she's a great actress. Chemistry there and just the trailer
alone is like there yeah. Yeah, So I'll probably still see it because
I love and the first one was so good to me, so I down
to go watch it. Definitely gonna be watching and being seated for Beatle Juice,
Beatle Jeese. Yeah, same, same, I'm excited. I loved
Beetle Juice as a kid. Loved Jenna Ortiga and what was the show she
was Wednesday Wednesday? Loved her in that I'm not strange things you Yeah,
and she's so cool and then all like most of the original cast is going
to be in it again. I'm gonna writer so hard. Yeah, I'm
excited watching the trailer and I watched it like a hundred times even my mom,
Like it's like she's like, oh, we're seeing that. Yeah,
can I come restie? Yeah a lot, her best friend I can coming
along days. It's kind of kind of a topic. But there's a Beatle
Juice restaurant in La I've been there twice. It's pretty sick everything. Yeah,
it's pretty sick. I've been there twice. Definitely check it out.
It's like a whole like like performance dining experience. So that's pretty cool.
That's hard. Yeah, no, I will be seated. Yeah, general
take. I feel like she's slowly becoming like the princess. She's so good,
Like she's the only one that could do remakes, and like I'll be
interested, especially it's like classic scary ones, like she killed it with Wednesday.
She is a killer with this. Yeah, just her whole persona is
so like, yeah, she just radiates dark spirits, you know, and
she says she loves doing that, so you could tell she loves it because
she's really good. She was in a movie that came out called Miller's Girl.
It's not like a dark like scary vibe or goth or anything, but
she also had like a dark aura to her character and she also played that
well it's so good. Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited for Beetle Juice.
I don't know if I'm excited for Joker, but I will be seated.
I'll give it a chance. I'm gonna give a chance. I'll givebout the
beast attentions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no expectations.
Yeah, but what you guys should be excited for is anyone but you
streaming in like late April. Yeah, I think watch it. I feel
like I read the twelfth. We should really be like stuff. We're just
like for sure, No, it's it is definitely coming, uh in April.
Yeah. I don't know why I have the twelve, but I think
it's late April. In the twenties, let's see, that was the movie
you said it was like one of your favorite movies of all time, but
one of my favorite wrongs of all time. I don't know if I say
top three or top five. You said like April twenty third, April twenty
third, Okay, yeah, yo, everyone want making his debut and we
will confirm if it's one of the best wrong coms. You don't, I
love me a wrong com. So I'm excited for that, and I think
I'm gonna go see Challengers. I asked for someone from our sales team that
she could get me like tickets to the premiere. Okay, Yeah, and
I heard the reviews and everyone says, it's like it's a really hot movie.
I want to see it. A lot of three somes going on with
you. She did say she wants to stray away from like that those young
characters and stuff like that. Recently. I'm excited for what because she wants
to grow up or something like that, and I like that. And sidebar,
you know she's been doing like the press tour and stuff. The block
mon is it. She's so smart. She's like, I dyed my hair
because I wanted I didn't want to distract it from what was the movie before.
She was just fromuddy Dune to Yeah. That's like that's some genius right
there. And her looks the Tennis let's, but the blonde hair really doesn't
her. I'm here for blonde and day. I feel like she should keep
it. It's such a look. Yeah, that's what we're looking forward to.
Let us know what you're watching on TV on Instagram. We are at
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to tailors. Just tell her brother you want to go to Taylor. You
said that? Oh hell yeah, man, I laid it out right,
I said, I said, I said, I said, bite bait.
Wow. So much has happened, yo. I feel like it's been a
hiatus, like a good month. Huh, consider that's a new season.
I always wanted to release this like in season. But the only reason why
I don't is because, like when I uploaded, it tells you, like,
what episode? Yeah, like I want to celebrate when we get to
episode one hundred, I feel like it's a new season. It's right.
You got to start for episode and one yeah you know, yeah yeah,
yeah it's weird, right, and then a little graphic that we put out,
So, I mean, I guess the episodes. Dude, keep going,
but this is kind of a new season, you know. That's that's
why we took the little break. It's okay, but we just keep going.
We had to let stuff we come back, you know, I mean
technically shows don't. I don't know. The real reason was because March shows
my birthday month. So we had to take a he off. That kicked
it off. I had to take a there's a lot going on, y'all.
My boss got a promotion, yes already, he's going to New York,
which honestly, like if you know our boss, like everyone in the
company always calls him like the smartest, the best, and that's what companies
should do, Like your best should be at the best, like you should
be at the number one market. It's totally you know, deserved. I'm
so proud and happy for him. But yeah, I got the news.
I'm not gonna lie. I was crying my little eyes out. And you
know a lot of people in radio, like times have changed with everything,
like just people being in office and like people like even talent, like they
have to track a million shows like that used to be like unheard of,
like everyone's live, doesn't matter what market you're in. So like, so
much has changed. But one thing that like was big when I got here
was like a lot of people have jumped a lot of stations, you know,
like I kind of got a lot of shit because this was my first
station and like it's number four in the market. Like usually don't get to
be in your home market, so like I really had to prove myself that
I deserve to be here. Because people don't know what you did before.
You know, everyone has their own story. Right while people are moving markets,
you know, they're having a lot of different bosses. So why this
was so hard on me? It's like marketing, guys, is my my
first and only boss that I've ever had, Like i owe this guy my
whole career, Like he's the one that took a chance on me, Like
I've only learned from him. Like he got the most fucking trash air check
for me when I talked even faster that I'm talking now and wasn't making any
sense and heard fucking heard something in me and let me be on this fucking
crazy station that I grew up listening to. And this has always been there
when I ever hit a wall, and just like always been there for good
advice. So like, I took it so hard, you guys, I
was so sad, But now I got all my tears out and I'm just
happy for him, and I'm excited for the future. And you know,
now I got me a good a little connection to New York and I'm sorry
he's just one call away. So that's one big thing that happened to me.
Also, today is my fifth week or like the middle of my fifth
week in the gym, one month mark's gone of meal prepping. We love
that you can see your progress. Yeah, well you so like I heard
like to like second or third month, you'll see you feel I'm sure and
I feel it in my energy too, like I just feel nicer good for
you? Oh you guys, how's life? Life good? As I said,
last month was my birthday month at the d Land, the Land of
I went to d Land. Okay, wait, wait what does that mean?
Okay, mickey mouth, I was like, wait a minute, that
was sober, fun and being me. I celebrate the whole month period every
weekend doing X, Y and Z. So I was busy, busy,
busy, be having fun with all my friends, all my loved ones.
I had a great month. Happy my last year in my twenties. Y'all
exit, I know, I'm excited. I'm happy another year of life period.
Let's go. How about you? Ab March has been busy. My
parents are in Mexico right now, so I'm the only child. I don't
know if you guys knew that, but I didn't. Yeah, wow,
holy children, you're like twenty Like a lot of people, a lot of
people actually don't believe me when I say that because I don't have that like
people. Yeah I didn't know about you either. Wow, Yeah, which
is good. I kind of like that, but you can't tell because like
I feel like they get a bad rep, you know, totally get like
younger brother es. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, a lot of people
didn't, like they can't tell that I am and I'm kind of brother.
I'm kind of glad child. Yeah, I'm kind of glad though, because
they get a bad rep, you know. But anyway, Yeah, that's
why I don't. Yeah, they really do have and I have Hella cousins,
so like that. You know. Yeah, you just seem like you
do really loved which is still very true, could be true, but I
guess you just get that from like people have siblings, you know. Yeah,
I give Angelina. You said you said you didn't. You said I
gave only child vibes. Do I really I didn't do that. I didn't
know that, Okay, yeah, no, Well what do think you have
a brother or sister? Though? I don't know why I thought you did,
or maybe I just didn't think about it, but I thought you did.
Like, yeah, I've gotten a lot. Like when I tell people
I'm an only child, they're like, you're an only child. I think
that as a compliment though, Yeah, okay, because I'm glad that I
don't all spoiled to you or selfish or whatever else they say about them to
that, because yeah, you would be spoiled. Yeah, But what I
was going to say was because of that, and I'm sure you can relate
then that unfortunately, like you have to do everything, you know what I
mean, Like like right now that my parents aren't here, I'm like making
sure taking care of their stuff on top of my own things too because they're
not here, you know, just things like that you're not love that,
you don't love that. I am glad I'm able to help, but it
can be a lot. Unless you're the oldest, you're still doing everything right,
Okay, Yeah, well that makes sense. My family was gone for
a month in January, and I loved being alone. I loved handling our
pet. I loved like, yeah whatever, like paying their bills that they
had. Yeah. Month, I was like, you know what, this
is so fine. I think it's you're happy to help, and I like
help, and I'm glad that I'm able to like, it'd be nice if
I have some assistance. Sometimes I'm like, dang, I have to go
home a lot. It was not a culture shop, but like a shock
and I did live. I lived alone when I was in LA for like
what six seven years, so I only had to worry about myself for those
that times. So but again I'm glad I'm helping. But it was really
busy in that way. Yeah, yeah, no, I feel it.
I do have a small update on Carpenter by you guys. Wait, where
did we last leave off? I don't even know. I don't know.
I don't even think I put that episode out. But it's okay because completely
date now. Okay, Oh, it's been a roller coaster. It's been
a little bit of roller coaster, not as dramatic, but I will say
things were going good. There was a little something in the road where I
felt like he would just being like a little too nonchalant, Like some things
came up and it was just like our communication wasn't good and we probably like
went the longest of out seeing each other too. I mean, nothing crazy.
I think it was just like a week or something. But usually like
he has lands like in the middle of the week, which is totally fine,
like we're just dating, so like don't even be seeing each other every
day and every weekend. But it was just the way he was going about
other things that was like rubbing me the wrong way. But we ended up
seeing each other like that following weekend, and I kind of confronted him about
it. I was just like, you maybe better. I just kind of
like nudged him to be a better communicator, like in a playful way,
and he was like, like, I think there was an instance where he
kind of made plans. I don't even remember what happened, but I remember
I changed my plants because off his word, you know. I was like,
oh, I'm not going to go to the gym because he's plan of
thing out and then it just like never fell through and it and but like
he does it in a he's just not direct, and I'm such a direct
person. Like he's very like, well, text me stuff that like kind
of says that's not going to happen, but like just won't say it.
And I'm like, at first, that's okay, but not when I'm like
actually canceling plans because I think you're doing this and you're like beating around the
bush like this just like annoys me a little bit, even more so I
kind of told him. I was like, it's not a big deal.
Like and honestly, that was like a night that I'm kind of glad we
didn't hang out because I had a lot of stuff to had to wake up
early in the morning. But at the same time, like you know,
I kind of changed my plans, like it's like, you just gotta communicate
with me. And he was like, oh my god, I'm so sorry,
and like agreed, and like that weekend, honestly, guys, I
was like and I thought I was getting serious, but we spent the entire
weekend together. The entire Yeah, that was a little different, like all
day a like went out that night, turned out at the bar. I
posted his first of all his hand. It was like a boo was like,
harl you hays like a figunail and the man's hand. I can't I
can't knowing about you dating this person. I'm like, is this him?
Like who is it? Is? So so turned up. Spent the night.
The next day we literally got brunched together, like went out to a
restaurant, went on a date, and the night yes, and gut food.
You're just gonna brush over that. Yeah, I am bout And then
he he do he wants to take one car because he actually lives like closer
to that restaurant we we're going to. So I was like, oh,
do you want to take two cars because you want to drive all the way
back. He's like, no, let's take one car. Drops me off
and is like he made an excuse like, oh, I have to use
the restroom, but like didn't go to the restroom. We end up hanging
out. So he had invited his friends over to watch the soccer game,
which was like gonna start around eight or something, right, I think it
was Mexico gets USA, and so plied him leavesuit and like he literally cancels
his plans. We watched the game at my house. We order pizza,
he orders beer and pizza, and we like how the whole night just watching
soccer And then my ass I made him watch it last week because he never
watched. But not him cutting on his friends to hang out with you right
now, this is a really good weekend. Good spend the night again.
We had like coffee in the morning and then went on with our lives.
So when I tell you the entire week, the entire I was kind of
like, oh not because it was getting serious. But I was like,
well that was different, Yeah, like you enjoyed it. It was nice.
Yeah, you guys. I got the biggest egg from him. What.
I don't want to lead up to what led to this conversation because I
don't want to like out anyone or anything, but he just gave me the
egg. I don't know how we got to this point. He and we
both were drinking, so I will say that don't blame anything on the alcohol.
That's bullshit. And I okay before I like make all the excuses.
Basically I was trying to hook up. He kind of said that. You
know, he did tell one of his friends that he hung out with the
girl the past weekend. That's why, because they were like, what the
fuck? What happened to? Soccer and I were over and they made a
joke like, oh, hook me up with like some of her friends or
something, and I had mentioned someone that we both know and he was like,
no, no, that's not his type. So I will say I
was pressing in pretty car. I was like, what's wrong with this person?
Like tell me, like what what what? He kept saying that it
was like N's type that I kept pressing them, and he said, she
does it. She's not that pretty and she doesn't have a nice body.
She's not pretty and doesn't have a nice body to the floor. And I
was just like in the moment, like obviously we're drinking. I still sucking
up with him later, but the next day I was like, I just
had the egg so bad because one, okay, you could fucking lie,
I get I was pressing him that what I will say, you know,
like whatever came out of him. I would never talk about his friends like
that if they were the ugliest, fattest people ever. I don't never feel
like your friends are ugly. Also, you would have had a no chanting
tato period. No, yeah, crazy crazy you to like talk about friends
and it just makes me not want to bring any of my friends around.
No for real, Like it's it's cool to be honest, right, but
you could easily be like, oh, my friend's on attracted to your friend.
Exactly, that's not his friend. And I swear, yeah, that's
kind of type of girls. Yeah, exactly. He could have said it,
because did he say it on his friend's behalf or like on his behalf,
on his friend's behalf. But he wasn't like he literally verbat of you
guys. He was like that pretty shoesn't have a nice body. So I
kind of like, like on both this is why I don't think he would
like her. No, somebody said that, someone said that about my friends.
It's over what the heck, Rockberry is so much to me. If
you're gonna speak like that on my friends, I can't be with you like
I have in the moment because I was even vetting to Angela about it,
who might have been the wrong person because angelaue was just hyping me up because
I was like, I'm about to ghost him, like I was so turned
off by it, for real. It's just more like a sign of character,
Like it's just like that. It's just like not a nice thing to
say at all. It doesn't matter. And I also feel like when you're
dating someone like everyone knows. I was like the golden rules, like to
get to a girl like you get to her friends, vice versa. Like
everyone, you usually want to win the friends and the family over. So
for you to say that, it was almost like disrespect to me, Like
yeah, you should be sucking all my friend's asset seriously, like she could
be the ugliest person in the world like that really, so it was kind
of like you need to calm the fuck down, and like, also,
who the fuck are you guys like me? And there's ways to say it
and my friends are hot, like and it just couldn't be less true,
Like I'm not just saying like some I'm this, you know, because it's
my friend, Like she is hulla pretty yeah, and like yeah, okay,
she's not like super skinny, but she's not like a big girl either,
you know. Like I just I was so turned off. It doesn't
matter though I shouldn't even defending her in that way, Like it just was
not cool to say so, like honestly, that whole that whole first week.
It's been like two weeks now, but like I really was, like
I'm fucking coasting him. I don't want to talk to him, Like I
just really needed a moment to think. And I talked to Angela after,
who, like I said, she was like, yeah, never talked to
him again, and I'll text him back, I will say. And I
talked to him another friend about this. It's not even that, but like
I just personally am not the ghosting type. Like I think it good and
I want to be that bad bitch, but like the other the day,
I'm an a doll, like me and this person have literally has sex with
each other, like they have hung out with each other. It's not like
this guy just men. We've been kind of talking, like me and him
have spent time together. So I think it does need to be a conversation,
maybe in person, where I say I don't like the way you spoke
with my friends and to never do that again. It's definitely I nearly said
that out of like first fit of rage, Like if I heard that,
I'm like, I'm talking to this motherfucker ever fucking again, do not talk
to him. That's fucking rude, like swinging up on my friends like that.
Hell nah bye. But you know, I also am not the ghosting
type, so like, yes, you sat on it, I've sat on
it. I agree. I guess it is my question like, is this
worth like cutting someone completely off for for me? Yes, yeah, I
would say yes, because first of all, you're disrespecting my friends you've never
met, like we're dating. I would hope that we will get to a
point where I will bring you abound my friends and family. But you are
speaking person. Oh yeah friend right, Well, I don't know. I
don't know how if they're friends. Uh. Oh, I didn't know that
I know of her kind of thing. Yeah, I might edit this outh
the podcast. I don't know, because I don't. I don't want this
person know it's about her. But I will say, did I take you
us when he got like points? Oh, I did not tell you this?
Okay, fuck I really had this or not you guys, but in
that moment when I said, we had a little stand where I thought he
was being a little not too nonchalant, something that like got him points back
and producer Chris, I don't know if you even heard this, but last
time we talked to producer Chris, he's buying the camera. We were just
talking about how he's been nonchally and the guys agreed that like he was like
being kind of whack. So what gave him some points back is basically I
uninvited him somewhere because he was being whacked. I didn't like his response to
it. But the ball of my court, he was hell hitting me up
that week to hang out and I kind of was like, oh, like,
me and my friend are gonna be here tonight if you want to pull
up. But me and my friend end up blacking out. You guys,
she's she was going through a breakup. We like drank a lot. We
went to five he spots. I remember seeing him at the bar when he
told me he was there, and I don't remember the rest of the night.
But this man drove from Redwick City to Oakland to meet up with us,
dropped me and my drunk gast friend off to my apartment. I woke
up to text saying like where you at come help me? Your friends in
my back seat. Like he literally was like over an hour and like literally
laid her down on my couch and went back to his house. So like
took care of my drunk gust friend. So he got some points for that
and drove and like literally took care of us. And I text him next
morning like, oh my god, I'm so sorry I drank too much.
Thank you for taking care of my friend and for your taking us home.
And then that's when things started progressing, getting better from what I told you
at the beginning. So this friend he's talking about is that friend that got
blocked out, Oh yeah, first of all, but still on it like
he saw her also blacked out via the drunk bitch. I don't know,
but I think that's so Rude's rude. I don't okay, I'm gonna go
back all wi And I said, I don't know if it's like I'll cut
him off completely forever, like he's a piece of shit like you like scum
of the earth, Like it's the bottom of my shoe. But it's just
like I'll think about that all the time. Yeah, like is he thinking
about that? I will per se like every day, but like is he
thinking about that about my other friends or like my family or like what have
you? Like that's just not a nice thing to say, even though that's
what you think, Like you don't need it right, you could have said
it differently. Yeah, it's how you say it. Yeah, that was
just like like it didn't happen to me, and every time, like if
I think about it or like if you ever bring it up again, I've
been dodging it. I don't know if I'm overthinking it, but like it
really did. It's one of those like are you not the person I thought
you were? Like are you actually secretly a douchebag? And like I know
that he was like in a frat before, Like I just got like major
like your frat boy. Yeah, And I've been dodging him and like even
like this past week he like trying to out with me like five times,
not five times, but he did to me. I was like, are
you free for dinner tonight? And I didn't text him back till like ten
hours later. I was like, oh, sorry, I thought I responded
to this like I'm not. I have plans. I literally just had plans.
And then he was like, oh, it's all good, like how
about this Saturday? And then I and I was like, oh, I
might go to satur Rose and I visit my family and he's like, well,
if you don't let me know, like I'll treat you to brunch.
And then I I think he texted me again and I said, I said,
you know what, I'm actually I think I'm coming down with like a
cold, so I'm just going to stay home. And he's like, oh
man, it's going around. Well, you know, if we're still filling
down tomorrow, like I'm down to bring you some soup, let me know.
I know, I literally just loved it, like never hit him about
the soup, Like I just loved it and was like uh huh yeah,
like I really because I know I need to talk about it when I see
him. Yeah, I think I'm kind of avoiding that, like I'm just
like, oh, I'm I already for her to get serious or like no,
but that's it. Yeah, And you guys, like if you think
it's like progress seeing and like you see it going other places, it's just
I mean, it's conversation something to bring up, to be honest, because
even even if it wasn't seriousself, like, I don't want to be fucking
dating anyone that's like exactly, Hey, I don't like the comments you made,
and it's it's like kind of a red flag to me that you're this
kind of person. So I see to know if you are, you know,
but I need to forget how to say that because I can't be that
direct probably and it's literally leaving a bad taste in your mouth for weeks.
It's been a lot, it's been a while, and you still are like
ill, like bad vibes, like gross duck ki. Yeah, so definitely
say, yeah, you got to figure that part out. But yeah,
because one of my friends have asked me. She's like, well, do
you not like him anymore? I'm like, I don't know, I just
know I don't like him right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
definitely a flag raised, right. I'm like, oh, yeah, something
to know for sure, because ew, that's gross. Like I'm thinking about
it again, and I'm like, I said that about my girls, about
whoever, my family, my cousins, whoever. Thinking about it too,
because you don't well you don't say that to the they're friends, you know,
like, and I get and I am trying to remind myself of the
context. Sorry to catch your friend, but I think I do keep going
back to that too, like oh that's all I could get, is that,
like you call my friend fat and ugley? Basically yeah, that's what
he basically said. Yeah, but I do not that it makes it better.
But I'm like, I am trying to pend in context, like we're
talking about taking off with his friend, and I was pressing him about like
literally saying like why isn't she his time? Why did she his tight?
You know? But the pressure but the pressure shouldn't like yeah, exactly that
I give her like something and like if you if you're pushing me that much,
even to the point where I'm getting annoyed of you asking, I still
don't have to respond like that exactly. Yeah, no, I know.
And it makes my stomach turn just thinking about it, and like me,
this isren even that close, but it does make me like fuck that,
Like like every time she posts, I like because I'm like she's so pretty,
like fuck that guy for talk and I'm like what yeah, And even
given like the past context of how they first met, like still like that
was a bad first me for them too, but still like and I never
had a deal with someone like not getting along with my friends or not saying
they don't get along, but like that's crazy. Yeah. I feel like
I see this like in TV shows or something in it where like the husband
is saying or the boyfriend or the guy dating is like saying something bad about
your friends. I would hate that. I couldn't. I would live with
something inside me sitcoms and it's funny, but like being in it, it's
like that's not funny. Yeah, it's yeah, things Martin said about I
don't like, I'm like, wow, fall was gena. Actually when I
break up with Martin the way he was gonna but they had a relationship like
they would clown each other, you know, exactly. But yeah, that
was I don't know, I don't know if it's like a deal breaker,
I'm I'm obviously it wasn't even it was what he wasn't joking about it is
what you're saying. Yeah, like it was at no and like and I
get like that's definitely rather like you said, like you're talking about like a
hookup and things like that. But there's just ways to say it, like
especially because it's your friend, and especially because if I like you, why
would I say it like that? You know, yeah, and exactly,
it's just like more to like is this the person you are? You know?
Because like yeah, but like in the beginning, it's all good,
everyone's nice and like this a gentleman, and it's like, yeah, actually,
what if he is just like this diuchback frat boy. You know,
That's kind of what I'm like, Well, it was a race flag.
There's a race flag. You're starting to see his colors maybe, like you're
starting to get to well, that's what dating is anyways, Like you you
know someone and then like things go along and then you see you start seeing
who they are, like right, so this is you're seeing him unfold me
be like you just you don't know if you ever not want to like a
guy, get to know him. Yeah, no, no, that's so
true. Yeah, so I honestly, guys don't know where I stand still.
Like I've been joking him, we didn't hang out all this week,
I like reade every excuse of the book. I've really was coming down with
a little cold. I don't know, but but I don't know. See,
it's still leaving a bad taste in your mouth. It is weeks from
when it happened, So it's something worth talking about with him, I think,
because I'm just trying to think what is the best thing he could say
to me of me saying that, like obviously an apology, yeah, but
it would have to be like I was druking. I can't believe I said
that, And I just don't think he's going to say that because you don't
know, like, yeah, I mean maybe if there's an explanation or some
type of like there's not been an explanation an apology, but I'm just thinking
I don't think he's gonna respond in the best way. They don't, like,
there's only one way you could perfectly respond to this, and that's apologizing
out the ass and being like you're right, but it is it genuine then,
like like can you apologize for saying what you feel? Like? I
don't know, no, I would take a genuine apology, like even if
whatever, like that's how he talks to his boys, like you know what,
I'm sorry, like I was drinking like that that would it just gets
to me like that was foult. That wasn't cool to say about your friends,
like like, oh, my friends talkshi about people, you know,
like guys that we don't like, Like I've talked about this person literally to
you guys like you know, Like but what I dare say that to like
your friend or someone so like it just it's it's the context and who you're
talking to, and like he should just be like, you know what,
that wasn't cool, but I said period, like it shouldn't have been said.
It shouldn't have the way he could go about it, and I wouldn't
depressed him if he's genuine, Like that's all I want is just like apology,
like is in the locker room or not? One of my boys and
like exactly, so you think that he will not respond in that way,
is what you're saying. I'm just a little scared he's not going to or
it's too scared too, Like I just I like, guys are just so
dumb. I can't walk you through this. You know, Well you'll just
have to. Uh maybe I'll just never see him again, you guys,
maybe he's taking the hit. Like we has a text me. He's probably
like this bitch just man, Well, if you like him that much,
I feel like you should say something. We'll see next episode. Let me
know what you guys think, though you cant hit me up on the talk
back Mike too. If you ever had someone talk bad about your friend that
you were hooking up with or dating, how did you deal with that?
Or the time someone just gave you the dick and you're like, what should
I immediately regret ever spending time with that person? Not that I'm like fully
regrett again, but I'm just like, oh, I mean soon better sooner
than later? Right? Oh? Yeah, for sure, I think you
could cherish it the past time. It was at that point, yeah,
because you didn't know, like you didn't know any better. Like you didn't
know he was like this or regretful at all. Right, you know this
has been fun. I just don't want to end. Like I'm like,
damn, well, you know, like if you are this person, don't
I don't know. I'm just I guess I'm still figuring out how much this
is bothering me and how I want to go about it. I'm kind of
in the middle of it, all of it, you know, start really
dating this guy, Angelina, I'm not gonna be around him. He's gonna
talk to you about He's gonna be like, you know, your friend edually
she's so fat and ugly no whatever, we like. I guess that's how
my sem my scene it too like and I still feel that way, like,
but I'm not bringing about any of my friends. But it wasn't in
the context of like I'm looking at your friends this way, and this is
what I think about that, you know, you are, like I want
your friend he's like my friends saying what was up? And I'm like,
oh about this person. He's like no, no, but still it's you
know, I'm not defending it, but I will say in context of like,
oh, look at all you know, like I don't know because like,
okay, you're only gonna bring me around your hot friends. I'm not
like but all my friend And I'm not just saying that, like literally they
are right. So I'm just like annoyed, and it's like, who are
you? Like what I'm gonna need you guys look in a mirror. Yeah,
like if anything, I am out of your leak. So, like
Angelie said, I don't know this, but he said you he's balding,
So yes, crazy, he literally is what is he like need something?
Crazy? Yeah? My age younger by a couple of months. Well shallow,
but like if you want to take it there, bro right, because
he did take it there, Like I know you ain't talking and I saw
a picture his friend's friend was cute, but his friend was no chanting Tatum
either, So both of them need to relax. We'll see how I handle
this. Don't come for the friend. We don't know what the hell friends,
I don't care what you even talking for him? Maybe under alcohol she
might, but now we're out here coming for the friend's neck. We don't
know what he has to say. Maybe he thinks that, but he would
have said it in a better way than what carpenter basis or maybe that's his
future wife, and you ever hear exactly like who knows dommy idiot? He
ruined it because he said he basically said she was fat and ugly. So
okay, you thought you're gonna kick up with the friends, you don't.
It was just like some dumb boy shit to say. You know what I
mean, like no filter, I forgot where I'm at, ship about anybody,
to be honest. Tumbleweeds rolling up there is the moment he had pee
brain? But are they? Is there always tumbleweeds rolling in there? That's
what That's what you're gonna come to find out. Yeah, like do you
have a brain? If you so desire, and I'm just scared to find
out that he doesn't have one. It's all a brain, yes, and
if he doesn't have one, you know what? On to the next.
Yeah, So that's what I'm dealing with. But I'm next. On Today
in the Bay we got my girl Carriina April Latina creating her own recording studio,
creating this incredible safe space for creatives in the Bay Area and be on.
So that is next. This is for the record with Angelina. This
is today in the Bay. What's your host engine? Now? Two day
in the Bay. We have the incredible Carina with us today. I was
like, go ahead, good, how are you doing good? I mean,
you got so many titles. I know you're engineer artists? Are you
a producer? No songwriter? I'm not gonna do yeah, yeah, sorry,
You're like, that's not what I'm not gonna get into. But let's
kick it off. Because you are a founder of a Studio X. You've
created this like amazing space for artists in the Bay Area and beyond. So
tell me everything Studio X is about. So Studio X started off as a
recording studio and just over time we've kind of pivoted into like a creative hub
and an artist development center. So we don't just press three and let you
go with the master. We're gonna we're gonna help and shape and mold artists.
So we have an artist development program we go over to and things from
the basics like vocal performance to music business, to branding, marketing, et
cetera. So these like stuff that you guys offer outside like or because someone
just coming and book, like a studio as well, so they can just
come in and book as a studio, but we offer like, yeah,
we offer programs and workshops like throughout the year. And how long have you
guys been open for We are about to celebrate our third anniversary, open since
May twenty twenty one. That's crazy, and you just okay, tell us
where the studio was at first the studios in East Oakland's in Jingletown. Okay,
Yeah, we're in the same building as a Green Day it used to
be Wow, that's huge. And then you just opened another location we did.
We opened a location in downtown LA. That's crazy. And what made
you like want to start this? I mean, I was an engineer.
I started out. I started out as an artist, and then I started
recording and the first studio that I worked at shutdown during COVID, and then
I worked at another studio like kind of like in the middle of COVID,
and then it got to a point where I was just like I had too
many ideas and I was just like, I think I've done this long enough
to be able to facilitate, you know, my own my own company,
Like I know I could do this, and I wasn't that was the goal,
but I wasn't necessarily trying to and I just kind of stumbled that stumbled
on that space by accident. I was just looking on Craigslist, being nosy
like we all do. Yeah, I got mentioned saved in my Zilla like
oh these cabinets three million dollar home. I would never jump exactly, but
no. I was just scrolling Craigslist one day, which is not a place
where you would think to get a like you know, we'll sketchy, but
no, I ended up Yeah, and I walked through and I was just
like I felt it, like I was like, this is my space,
like I feel it, you know, and it's a lot of space.
It's like two story. And I didn't have any investors. I was by
myself. You know, I didn't have a team. It wasn't even called
Studio X yet. It was just I just needed a studio to work out
of. And it's like I'm gonna figure it out. I figured it out.
I took a leap, and you know, sometimes that's dangerous, but
sometimes it's necessary. And it was very uncomfortable, and I didn't have any
real business experience on how to run a business. So you know, these
past three years, I've been learning in real time. My team has witnessing
me learn these lessons in real time. But it's worked out and we're expanding
and we just opened another location, so it's been cool. Do you think
being an artist first like helps you more with your vision on what you want
in a studio and like what you want for other artists on one hundred percent?
Because I think sometimes you know, you can get in the mindset of
I'm going to open a studio and I'm just gonna make passive income. It's
gonna run itself, which is ideal, Right, that's cool, but like
what else can you offer? Right? Like, there's all your competition does
the same thing, and you know, you might be a studio that doesn't
have the as much equipment as another studio, or like our studio, for
example, doesn't have a live room, so that's like, ah, we're
competing with people do have a live room. There's all these like audio components
that you know puts you in different lanes and leads than everybody else. But
it's like what else can you offer? And that's kind of when the artist
side of me is like, well, I wish, you know, when
I went to a recording studio, I wish that we did this or I
wish I had this, or I wish my studio taught me how to do
this, you know, instead of without having to go to school, because
I went to school to learn most of the music business y stuff, okay,
but to be able to offer it and get your song mixed the master
and shoot a music video, like have kind of a hub and a one
stop shop and a place to collaborate. That was kind of my goal,
right, because anybody could have a recording studio, but it's like who can
have like a center. It's like for artists by artists exactly. And it's
like, I'm not just trying to make some money off you or like my
lowest time, I just little side business, like it's actually failling for you.
Yeah, And it's like, you know, there's a lot of dialogue
about the state of Bay Area music and the music business and how we do
business and whatever, and a lot of times it's super negative and a lot
of times nobody is doing anything about it. We're just sitting here complaining.
And I got tired of that. I said, all right, I'm gonna
let y'all talk. While y'all talk, We're gonna build this thing. And
you know, we're slowly we're educating artists. We're showing them like, here's
how you do business after you make a song, you know, here's how
you work with a producer. Here's the agreements you need to have, here's
contracts, and break it down simply. It's not a big daunting thing.
I think a lot of people paperwork. It's not that it doesn't have to
be this big scary thing. You know. I need someone to tell them
that and show them that it's not exactly or just a proper like being a
part of a show that's ran properly. Like, you know, here's what
a running show is, right, what's the running show? It's literally just
a list of what time and schedule that everything, just simple things to kind
of just enhance our professionalism. And I think with doing that it kind of
raises the bars. So then everybody who works with us is like, oh,
that's the standard, right, because the standard that we're used to is
is low, right, low organization skills low. Well, we're raising it,
you know what I'm saying. And we're and they go somewhere else I'm
and be like, uh, they're ye. Like when you book at Studio
X, you get a notification, you get an email, you get a
text, you're part of a tech like you know, we just we've developed
this smooth process just to make it more professional and just feel feel real and
like a business. We're running a business, but it's also still a place
that people could come and feel free and create and it's a safe space.
I love that you're just like, let's just do this because like you said
about the narrative of like being our music being in some kind of place and
whoop to woop, Like I've had conversations with friends too, cause we're like,
it's not really like that, like when people keep saying like it's hello,
artists working with each other like the whole you know, Oh we're not.
We're not here for each other. It just like it's literally just you
guys talking. So I like how you're just like, well, I'm gonna
just be so in the community to the point where it's not even a conversation,
Like why are we debating this, Like clearly we're here and we're doing
it because it's not accurate, And I think that we get so fixated on
maybe like the top three big outlets that we don't it blinds us to what's
actually really going on, Like have you been outside of the lanes that you're
talking about a lot of people know they haven't. So it's like once you
start kind of really getting outside and in the community and going to different showcases
and seeing different types of artists, like we're really dope and a lot of
people do have our stuff together, you know, and so it's just kind
of merging communities. I think too, I have you know, when I
first started, I worked at a studio car tuned off Hagenberger, and I
had a lot of like more clients that made street music, right, Like
my clients weren't really in the streets, right, And then a lot of
clients that I have at Studio X are a little bit more artsy and young
and like, you know, cool, like Diby. You know. So
we've been doing is like we merged. I merged the people that I've known
forever plus these new clients, and like we're merging those worlds. So it's
not we're not that different. We all want to make news, really good
music said. The foundation is the same, Like even I mean just even
look at rap music, like people like to be like, oh, it's
conscious rap, where it's gangst rappers backpack. It's like exactly what's the foundation
is all the same, you know, So why can't we like collaborate and
work together? You know, why can't I have this alternative artist be in
the same room with my artists that you know, makes like you know what,
like you know, just like why we can't merge them? And they
we do merge them and in our camps like we have, we have artists
from all different genres, you know, and we'll have them collaborate, which
is cool because they probably wouldn't have collaborate or cross paths. And even if
it's not just like, oh, let's merge our two sounds, you're rock
and alternative, Like it's like, oh you nice on the drums, like
I'm a rapper, but can you do this? You know? Like it
could be anything. So I love that you're creating that community. And I
know you also have like a bunch of events throughout studio acts. Let's talk
about running back, Running Back, Yes, I hosted our sisensation. Big
Vaughan shout out to the homie because he discovered the artists. I forgot her
name three leaves, Yes, is that what the songs called fire like he
played for me. I was like, this is so dope. You have
to say, I gonna to sign that my music director because it's fire.
But absolutely, yeah, so tell us about running back. So running back
is something that we started. So when we first started it was on Twitch
and a shout out and so you've been doing it, Yeah, we've been
doing it like probably within our like first year, within our second year,
I think we started it. And I have a lot of DJ friends,
and when I was an artist, I learned the importance of relationships with DJs
right like I when I was making music, it was I was like in
the transition era from like flyers and like gorilla marketing to like social media.
So I had like a hybrid of experience. But I remember being in faces
of DJs was like one of the most important things that you could do because
they outside, like there are some masses do like your song because I played
it outside and for all these people. Yeah, and more times than not,
DJs do want to play your record, like you know, they do
want to break local talent as some capacity. But there's like I feel like
there's a gap and it really just could be filled by communicating. That's it,
so you know, I was no stranger to going outside finding what DJs
are going to be where, having a USB with my DJ pack like and
building these relationships over the years. So I was like, how can we
how can we link artists that we work with and DJs that I know?
So we started doing this thing where it was on a Twitch and we would
have a DJ come in spend for an hour, and then the second hour
we would just do music reviews, like what does a DJ think about this
record? Because I could say what I think about it as an artist as
a but the person that's gonna play it is the most important person, right,
So we started doing these running backstreams. We did one move on back
in the day We've done with all types of DJs, shell Heart, Tussy,
and they were fun and people were tuned in and it was on Twitch
and it was cool, and I was just like, how can we How
can we make this more interactive? And I was like, let's make it
like a music review showcase and so it's kind of the same format, but
now it's in person, so you know, the DJ will come spend for
like an hour so they can you know, get their shine on and their
craft, and then we have Round one where the artists will play their song,
and then Round two where the top like five people from Round one get
to perform their song, and so they'll get critiqued on different things. And
it's a cool way to build commune. It's a cool way to support your
friends. It's a cool way to see what the DJ thinks about your record
in a safe space that you know. Sometimes it's not ideal to give your
record to a DJ in the middle of their set. They're not going to
play it and give you their feedback, right, It's a horrible way to
do it. It's cool to hand them a USB and say, hey,
later when you get a chance, let me know what you think of your
record. But this is a place where that's all they're here to do,
right, So that'll feel like you're bugging them. It's not left in their
spam fold or somewhere on exactly you know, like this is this is live
in person. So that's how it's my vie for both sides. It's like
you get to hear live music, little club slash American idol situation and build
community, right and and build these relationships with these DJs that you might have
been too scary to approach. You know, you never know, So it's
now a safe space. You can go up to Big Vaughan you might not
go up to in real life and be like, yeah, this is all
it's constructive and if you know, if you take the feed back seriously,
you can really start crafting some really dope records if you keep their feedback in
mind, and you don't who you're gonna beet there. Also, the DJ's
are bringing their DJ friends, their radio friends, you know, other artists
that are there. Like last when when Vaughn was there, Adrian Marcel pulled
up and you know, he was playing his record and he he guest judged
for us, you know, and that's somebody who has sold quite a few
records, so you know, you're getting his feedback as an artist, you're
getting Von's feedback as a legend in radio, you know. And then we
had I had my homegirl, Et Beney. She's like a marketing whiz genius,
and so she was kind of giving her marketing feedback. So you had
these three really cool perspectives to really gauge where you're at. And I think
that's what we do. I love that he's like not just in radio like
DJ for like and then you also have jam sessions. Yeah, that's another
event outside of running back, but connected to Studio X as well. Talk
about the jam sessions. So the jam session started at the studio too,
and it's just like they got those got so big that we couldn't fit all
those people in downstairs. So y'all were going to the studio. Yeah.
So our studio is like a lot of space, right and you're more than
welcome to pull up whenever you want. But downstairs is like kind of an
open floor plan and we have like couches and it's more you know, where
we do our camps and writing sessions and stuff like that. Upstairs is our
studio. It's a smaller studio, so it might comfortably fit like ten people
absolute max. That's even pushing it eight. But yeah, so we would
do our jam sessions like downstairs in the open area and we would just we
just called our musician homies. And Tyler from the studio. She's an amazing
sing I think I think you interviewed her back in the day. Oh I
don't know, maybe Tyler Reese Okay, but she's an amazed she's an amazing
vocalist songwriter. She's also an engineer and a vocal producer. But she it
was like a big network of musicians and stuff. So I said, let's,
uh, let's set up like some type of jam situation. It's a
build community. And that's how it started. And we would do the like
bi monthly and they got bigger and bigger and more people wanted to go,
like, hey, can I go to that jam? And I was like
okay. So last year we did our first one with an audience, and
so we kind of make it interactive. So Tyler will host and ask people
like, you know, how are you feeling? Give us a word or
you know whatever, and you know, people in the audience will give a
word and then the band will just jam off that and just feel like,
let's say you want to say like magical. Yeah, Tyler would just start
humming something about magical and then you know, drums of kicking and the basso
kicking and the and it'll just be and it's like two or three hours of
just like live improv music. We have. We have a really really good
time doing those and that we just did Wet with Kept Choice last week and
so that's another one of our events that we do and it has nothing to
do with the running backs. So the running backs are more like DJ artist
relationships. This is now musician artist community. That's so dope healing. It's
like it gets real sometimes it gets churchy, and then it gets real ratchet
sometimes you know. Yeah, it's all about balance, it is. And
so yeah, that's what we do. And that one is more for like
our musician and vocalist community, and I'm sure like people make a bunch of
connections there as well. Absolutely absolutely, like you might if you're an artist
and you're looking to put together a band, like, definitely come to a
jam session because you might find your next drummer there, or you might find
a background singer. This I want to go. I don't want to contribute,
I'll have no musical abilities, No, I just want to be there.
Yeah, we're absolutely going to invite you to the next one. Let's
fire. So far, are you guys at the point where you're like going
to different locations for the jam sessions? Yeah? Okay, So last summer
we were doing them on a rooftop in Oakland. We just didn't want at
ground floor in Oakland which is like a shared like workspace community club thing,
but is really really pretty in there. And I feel like, yeah,
with like so many new restaurants and stuff opening up, it's like a good
networking for you too, like let's host this. Yeah, I think a
lot of I think as we grow it and you know, get our marketing
together, I think a lot of like I want to do one in like
a nursery or with something with really plan and you know, like I think
we can just keep changing a coffee shops. Coffee shop, Yeah, just
anywhere anywhere that's a vibe, right, because it's it's definitely like a vibe
experience that's crazy. Yeah, you got to come to one. It's so
fun. No, I really let me know the next one. I'll definitely
be there. Man. It's just like so much from the studio that you
got going on with that, and then you're an artist yourself, I am,
Are you still making music? I haven't made music in a really long
time, so I'm not going to say I'm not making music. Like there's
a hundred at least one hundred songs in my in my card yards. And
I was stocking your Instagram and I saw one pust You're like came out of
retirement. I was like, words too. Yeah, I just dropped the
I dropped the project last like the end of last summer. It was called
Single for the Summer and that has some cool songs on it. But yeah,
I think I like making music. It's just like it's so taxing sometimes
too, just because I'm facilitating so many, so many other things. But
I do know, just for myself, for my mental health, for my
sanity, I do need to balance it a little better and make records because
I know I still have more things to say. But I think just pivoting
too, like I'm like a business lady now, Like I don't know what
to say in the songs because I'm like, this ain't even accurate. I'm
not even living like that right now, Like I don't it's gonnas. This
is not responsible of me for to say. Like, so it's kind of
difficult to find that balance and that duality because it's like I've grown so much
New Years, it's all Karina with the X that was in Karina, and
I just changed my name too, and then I got all business sees.
So I don't know, I don't know, but I do still make music
to answer your question, and I do a lot of like songwriting, gigs
and stuff. I just wrote a song, wrote a couple of songs for
this artist named Dred Dominique based in San Diego. So yeah, we're still
writing. And you were nominated for Grammy. Yeah some light talk about that.
Oh yeah, I'm talking about My So that happened too long. I
mixed the project for Apprentice Palell and Sean William and it was a spoken word
album, so it's pretty cool, and they got nominated and it's a new
it's a new category, so I think it was second year of the category.
And yeah, we got nominated. And I was like, they told
me that too. They were like when I mixed it, they're like,
yeah, we're gonna try to get nominated, and I was like, I
didn't think they couldn't. But I was just like, that's a it just
sounds like, yeah, can I just mix it first, like we don't
right, you know, no pressure, trying to get some grammar and they
were like no, we're simitting instagramma and I'm like okay, like all right,
and it ended up getting nominated and I was like, yo, okay,
what I'm feeling like like just being part being a part of that.
It was crazy because like the Grammys, the Grammys seems like this big mystical
organization and they're really not like a huge mystery. Like you can be a
part of the academy. It's not that hard if you're a music professional.
And they want more people to be a part of it, any more people.
Yeah, they need more people. And I think I think this coming
year is going to be a really good year just for how they're expanding.
And uh, I started. I started working with the Grammys when I was
in college. You ever heard of Grammy You. So Grammy You is a
college extension of the Grammys, right, So it's their program that they they
do for college kids and you pay like a really small fee, it's like
one hundred bucks, I don't remember, and you're a part of Grammy You
for your entire entire college career and then two years or something after you graduate.
So with that, any college, not any college, but any college
that they're in, they'll send a rep. Usually if you're in like a
music class. So I was in I was taking a music I was having
doing a music degree, So they had a Grammy rep Grammy U rep come
in and that's how I learned about it and I signed up instantly. Because
you got I would invited to all of the events that they were throwing.
This was pre COVID, so they had a lot of stuff going on,
so you get to do all that for free, and then they would let
you do sound checks. You get to go to certain people's sound checks.
So I went to Janelle Montet sound check, I went to how You Saying
the Khalid I went to his sound check. They did a songwriting thing.
Melissa Edthridge. I played a song for her, like for some songwriting.
She was like, I got goosebumps. I said, I know that's right.
Yeah, I just got crazy. And then they'll give you if you're
really saucy, they offer a mentorship and you apply to a mentorship. So
I got paired up with the guy who remember Foster and the Pizzy was really
say Sacy, but he worked on the The Foster and the People Out,
So he had like this, I don't remember if it's diamond or platinum,
but it was one of them platus like Crazy and Hicks Pumped Up Kicks.
Yeah, he produced on that album. So he had his accolades, and
they paired me up with him on some like production stuff and I'm like,
I am not a producer, like I don't like making beats. I don't
like producing. I don't. I was so against it. I was like
my engineer like I don't, or I'm I'm an artist, like I don't
make the beats. He insisted, right, and uh. He had me
like on an old school lendrum from the eighties and it was like a drum
machine thing, and I ended up producing a really dope song that I actually
that's the one I played for Melissa Ethers. She's like, oh, they
give me a use once. So I was just like yo, full stuck
a moment. But I say all that to say, like he's my mentor.
Is the reason like I've had sync placements and stuff like Grownish and et
cetera, et cetera, because I worked with him and he showed me kind
of how to do it and who to talk to. So anyways, I
say all that to say the Recording Academy is like a lot more accessible than
people think, and they offer a lot of resources for professionals. I'm glad
you tried producing, though I know you're like I hate it because you're trying
everything, might as well try it. Yeah, no, not for me.
Have you ever tried to make it be before? No, it is
not. I feel like I wouldn't be able to do it like I do,
like I'll like set up like little Jingles on my podcast, but like
it'll be like a two second one. I was like that took forever,
ages ages and then I don't know music theory, Like I took music theory
in school, but I had like a really mean teacher, and I just
I was into it. I was I've passed by the grace. I don't
know, Yeah, I passed, though. I think my teacher actually got
fired, like he got like escorted by the police, like mid mid by
the police, yeah, like mid semesters. Then they switched. It was
too much. So all that to say, I don't know music theory,
so when I even the teacher just messed it up for you because obvious,
Yeah, he screwed it up for me big time because he just like turned
me off. I was just like I don't like this class, like let
me get to my pro tools class. And he got arrests. It wasn't
just you like, yeah, problems yeah, I think he got fired and
then they automatically like make somebody walk you out because like the school sheriffs or
whatever like walked in up. Oh okay, okay, I don't know none
of my business. I do want to know what he did, right.
He used to smell like he'll do real bad, So I don't know the
google him after this. Yeah, see where he's at now. He was
so mean. But anyways, I don't like making beasts because I feel like
I can't play what I hear and it takes too long for me to figure
it out. I don't have patience. I'm just like, this isn't for
me. And then by the time I finished making a beat, I was
like I would never wrap on this trash. I wish somebody would send this
to me. So I just let you make it better. That's your job.
Yeah, I can get on it. I don't want to do it.
I leave it to the big dogs. These both these people group people
here next to me, both produced so they can have that. So how
did you get into engineering? Like what made you like really fall in love
with that? So I was an artist first and then I lived with my
auntie and I just moved in with her, and she was like, I
was graduated from high school, and she said, you could live here for
free, but you need to go to school. And I was like school
and nobody. I didn't really like grow up with thinking I was ever gonna
go to college or anything. Like. I already knew what I wanted to
do from a really young age. I was like, I'm gonna be a
rap star, like and that's it. I was good at it, and
so I didn't think there was a point for me to go to school.
But she was like, you need to go do something, and I was
like, all right, So I went to community college. Then I found
out you get financial aid. I said, well sign now, you know,
stay all four years. It's how much a lot. I not only
used mine once, and I like, for some reason, couldn't use it
again. I was like, damn, when you're young and never touched a
thousand dollars before that financial you feel like you feel like a billionaire. I
was like, waste some life and then you could get a little two books
and then like the rest was on me and get the used books and get
the e books and then get the you did the ball favorite. Actually I
was a Ta and my Ta let me use like half her books. She
was like, don't buy that, Like he's mine. You had to joke,
you feel my five kent to who knows what shoes? Shoes? I
was. I was just I was blowing it, but like it was it
was good to just be able to a little money. No, I had
like every victorious secret, perfree passion. I was doing something. Yes,
every type of blossom. That's all funny. Made you go to school?
Oh yeah, go to school? Uh. And then I took General ed
and I was like I just didn't know what I wanted to do, Like
I didn't have a profession other than what I was already doing. And then
they had a music program that it was called Music Industry Studies. Yeah,
music Industry Studies and it was at Diablo Valley College DVC, and uh,
I just enrolled and I was like I could do this, and you know,
so I would love to learn pro tools to be able to like communicate
with my engineers that I was working with. So I'm like this probably be
like useful or something. Definitely flunked my first year of pro Tools percent big
ad. I never went to class, like I was just like but then
I was like, Okay, Craney, you gotta get serious because somebody told
me if you fail, you got to pay the financial aid back. I
think that was a lie. That's a lie. Well somebody said that scared
me straight. I said, oh, I, you probably can't get it
again, regardless, regardless, I was about to mess up that check for
me. So I said no, no, no, no, no,
all right, we're gonna take it seriously time. So then I ended up
taking it again and I got serious and I actually really liked it. And
then Jeff that owned Tom Studios, the first studio that I used to record
at, he was like, I mean you want to like make some extra
money and start taking on clients. And I was like, hm hmm maybe,
and so I just wanted yeah. I was like, I mean I
should probably get like another start gig or something, right. I think I
was working at Home Goods at the time. I was so yeah, I
started taking I think one of my first clients was like his stars, like
yeah, like and I started just taking on and I was so slow.
I worked with fantastic Agrito, like the album that he got a Grammy on.
I did like a little more sol of recording on that album. So
the project I didn't do enough to qualify, but I was like yeah,
so, but I was really slow and just young. But I liked it
though, like I felt like I can do this. And then I was
recording myself and that made me better because I was just like, I know
how I want to be recorded. And then I remember there's a guy named
Ku Carell and he's like a vocal producer for like Rihanna and Justin Bieber,
like all the big people. I think he just worked on Beyonce's album that
she just did. He's worked with all the stars, right, and he
was doing I don't remember if this was a demonstration with the recording Academy or
with my school, but whatever it was, he was doing a demonstration at
the old school what's the school in Emeryville that shut down expressions expressions and he
was doing like a demo, recording demo, and I've never seen anybody work
so fast, and I was like, oh, I want to work like
that, and I was like okay, Like and he just does a bunch
of shortcuts and like when he comps vocals, Like comping vocals is when you
just do several takes of you know, a phrase or something and you put
it together like and make like you know, some people call the Frankensteining,
Like you're just taking a bunch of pieces and putting it together. And uh,
I was just like I love I love this, Like I just felt
something. I was like, I want to do that, Like recording is
cool, but I want to do that. And he was vocal producing at
the same time. So hit it again, do it like this? No,
no, get this rand. You know he wasn't a great singer,
but well no, I think he can't sing actually, but like he wasn't
like out of this, out of the but he was still getting his point
of cross yeah, to where the artists understood and you know, made their
sound better. So I started incorporating that in my sessions and when I will
work with singers especially, I was like, like I cannot sing for real,
like like she is not blessed with that. He knew, he knew
if I could sing, it would be so I can though I have a
good ear. So like I was kind of getting that reputation. And I
started kind of just building a reputation and building my clientele and you know,
getting when you're an engineer. You have to compete, you know, with
people who have been going to their engineer for the last five ten years,
and so you just have to offer incentives and different experiences. So I was
going out my way to just make sure that these people I was working with
were getting like super speed and like I might make a free promo video for
them or just like finding different ways to keep them around. And I did,
and I just loved it. And then it got to the point where
engineering my regular jobs, like my day jobs, I think it worked out,
like a printing company or something like that, was getting in the way
of my clients, and I was making more engineering than I was at that
twelve fifteen dollars an hour, so I was like, I'm out this whole
time. Yeah, and so yeah, so that's kind of how I pivoted,
And then I was able to fund my music with engineering, and then
I was able to meet more people as an engineer than I was as an
artist, because when you're an artist, it's all about me, right,
everything's me, me, me, me me. When you're an engineer,
it's like people want to talk to you because you do something for me.
Yeah, yeah, and it's like oh and then like that's how I met
Vaughn initially, Like he hit me asking about he wanted to put like a
song together, like a like a song with female rappers, and he was
like he didn't know I made music. He was like, well, what
can who can I put on this? And you know, I was giving
him ideas and stuff, and then I just shot my shot on the phone.
I said, Hey, while you're here, can I send you a
song that I'm working on. He's like, oh, you make music?
And I was like yeah, He's like yeah, send it. Literally like
within the hour, he played it on the radio like during primetime like traffic
time, and then it was on for a couple months, like on the
radio like no, and I'm like, no, but it That's how you
know, those relationships kind of it's got to happen organically first, but then
you can't be afraid to like put yourself out there too. Yeah, once
it's there, and it helps when you do other things. Like I tell
artists, like, you know, if you only make music, sometimes that's
tough to get to where you need to go. Because for somebody who like
a DJ or a label rep or whatever, like you gotta think hundreds of
people are getting at them every year, you know, sometimes every week or
month. What can you do for them to even make them like drop their
shoulders and really have a conversation with you and really like level And a lot
of times it's you being able to be multifaceted, faceted and offer something else.
So I tell people go pick up a camera, go learn how to
engineer, or go everything, do something, Just figure out something else to
do. That way, you'll never know who you meet like that, right,
and you never know what you're like actually like in love with right,
Like you know, you were like, I'm all about my music, and
I was like, wait, I love engineering. I never thought I was
ever going to be an engineer. It sounded like nerd stuff to me,
Like I don't want to do I'm an entrepreneur. I never thought I was
going to open a student That wasn't part of the plan. Yeah it wasn't.
But you know, you never know, just doing everything. So many
people understand though, like this studio is not just yeah exactly one, I'm
just making money off you guys, or you know it's dope. You got
all these events going on and you're creating the space for artists, but like
you have the resume, like you went to school, you worked with the
academy, you were an artist yourself. So I just want people to understand
when you go to the studio, like you're working with the best listen,
they are getting they are getting experienced. He does this, Yeah, they're
getting love. And the engineers that we have at the studio, like these
are my people. Like I'm training them, you know what I'm saying,
And I'm trying to put them in positions and situations so similar things could happen
to them as well. So when you come to the studio, even if
you don't work with me, you're gonna work with somebody else who got it,
you know what I'm saying. Like everybody is super talented and in their
own lane and got something special. So from the whole staff, pole staff
to the equipment fire, so what it's about everything Studio X. And then
you open the location in La too, So yeah, from people in the
bank, could they use that one too, Like yeah, we actually I
don't know when this is gonna air, but we got a mean special going
on right now. Bey to LA. If you're from the Bay and you
want to go work in LA fifty percent off only because we want to encourage
people to get outside their comfort zones and go make that LA trip. La
trips are very important, I will say, that's the different type of work
and a different type of network and market. So fifty percent off. They
only paying half of what they pay us up here if they go to LA.
But yeah, they can book in LA. And Rossie's down there running
the LA location, killing it, doing great. Yeah, and it's woman
owned like crazy in Oakland. Like that's so far, You're amazing. Let's
talk about this lab with FAB that you got coming up? Got another event,
So what's going on the lab with Fab. One of my longest clients
I've had is Missed the Fab. We've been working together seven years maybe something
like that, and our work we have developed this insane workflow that, like
you, I have to experience to understand what I'm saying because nobody believes it.
And then when they come in, they're like, I've never seen anything
like that, Like the amount of people that I think everybody that comes into
one of our sessions for the first time, like they'll be quiet, they're
just quiet, they're watching, and then during a break they're like, I
have never seen anything like that in my life. Like we work speed like
quick like and I could keep up with each other. Yeah, he could
keep up with me. Because when we first started working together, I was
I was subbing in for his regular engineer and uh jeff him. He was
like, oh, can you do a session with Fab? And I was
like, this was I don't know, I don't remember. I was probably
like twenty two, twenty three, maybe like I was young, like I
was, I was still fresh, I was still knew. I don't even
know if I had gone to that Ku Correlle thing yet, but maybe I
don't know. I was like it was before New Oakland, after No Heavens.
No, I'm not that. I'm not that No Shade Fab No,
no, No, this was probably this was probably After a Son of a
Pimp too. I think this was a little bit after that, yeah,
because I didn't have anything to do with that album. I wasn't recording him
yet. Yeah, so this is after that and we just started working together
and he was really He's fast and his attention span is like, you know,
he has to do something, he has to keep going, And I
was like, you're not about to outwork me so that Yeah, it made
me keep up. And then I got to a point where what's up,
I'm faster, you know, and then you all like and it was like,
a we just created this chemistry like to wear down. I don't have
to I don't he doesn't have to say a word, and I know what
he's thinking, just because we've worked together for so long so often, like
we work weekly. So basically people can learn that, right, And and
fab is his own like mind and brain and yes, like, but as
an artist and an engineer, you can still create that kind of synergy in
that that chemistry with your artists. You just have to have the right tools
and you have to like have change your mindset a little bit into how can
I make this faster. I used to work on a ranch when I was
a kid, my grandpa or nancehetto and I'm like my uncle was too,
And I remember like when I would go work there in the summer, a
lot of the task I had to do are mad, tedious, dude like,
and I was like, how can I figure out like a faster way
to do this but still get like the same result, right, And so
I kind of developed that mindset, so I applied that to engineering, right,
how can I do what I need to do? But like quicker to
keep up with him, Like there are certain things while he's recording or figuring
out a line, I could be editing or cleaning up my workspace and start
mixing and suffcapacity. So it's kind of just we're doing that. So that's
what we're doing. He's going over kind of his songwriting techniques and how he
writes super fast, and I'm going over engineering techniques and how I track vocals
really fast. Knowing it's like a class. Yeah, it's good to be
a session, but it's like a interactive Yeah, it's gonna be an interactive
workshop session. So that's what Lab with Fab is. Bro that's so tight.
So when is this this is going down? So that's on the thirteenth,
very limited like under ten. I'm talking like under ten people, just
because we want everybody to have like a fairly hands on experience and be able
to answer everybody's questions and stuff. So I don't know when we're gonna do
it again. But if you're an engineer or an artist than want to learn
how to track faster, definitely definitely make that make that move well. I
think you're amazing. Love key a genius. I love what you're doing for
the community. Studio X fire. I need to go to a jam session.
So yeah, you'd invite me to that, and you need to send
me a wall. Oh absolutely, I'll send that right now. Oh yeah,
you don't know creedom. I get your song played on the radio station.
Okay, Hey, you're gonna help you with everything. Whatever you want
to learn, you can go to Studio X and learn it. Yeah.
And if we can't teach you, we know somebody who can there you go,
so how could they follow you? Guys, get more in touch.
So Studio X Recording. If you want to book time with us, our
socials are all Studio X five one zero on Instagram. Studio X two one
three is our Los Angeles location. My personal instagram is Karina Music Karina with
an x X a r in a music and yeah, book some time,
come work with us, come to a jam, follow us on all our
socials, keep up with our events and programs, and we're gonna take it
up. We're gonna take it up one up a not excuse me this summer
so it's spring still, but we're resting right now because it's about to get.
It's about to get. I mean, yeah exactly, I have hell
events, but I have to ask what's next, like big Picture events all
both oh events. We have our next running back with DJ Chloe Money on
the seventeenth at Dahlia, so that'll be super dope. Our next GAM is
probably going to be in May, and then another one in June, and
our artist development program is gonna kick off in June. And big Picture,
Yeah, where do you see Studio X in like five years or where do
you want it to like really be? You know, I want one more
location and a very big city not on this coast, a Grammy downstairs and
a and a Grammy case. You know what I'm saying. I want that
might happen before five years, and just a bigger location that we're able to
really build out from, you know, the ground up. You know this
location was it fitting the budget and it could make sense, you know where
I was. But I think in five years we're definitely going to be like
a space that's like our space, like that we really built out. Well,
I can't wait to see you take over Karina. Everyone, Studio Eggs
pull up. Thanks so much for coming by thank you, appreciate you,
Angelina. Just Ago wacke it, just Ago wack it, just Ago wack
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