WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:07.559 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jagon Salis on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:14.039 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services. Make sure your most prized possessions Katie 3 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:19.199 z R. Two Side and i Heeart Radio Station. Good afternoon, everybody, 4 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:21.920 welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm 5 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:26.239 Steve Rivera, He's Jagon's also got a guy Jason. And today, uh 6 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:32.280 for Friday, A long week. For some reason, it's tired today as 7 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:35.799 I normally am in a five day week. You know you need a vacation 8 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:41.640 from the vacation. Still right, we're not even done with today. We'll 9 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:44.359 have a good show today, I promise. UM. Good to have everybody 10 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:48.359 here listening to us. And on a Friday, we have a good show 11 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:53.359 slated, the Broncos, the Nuggets play tonight. A lot of news on 12 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:56.560 breaking news we have locally, so we have a lot of things brewing. 13 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:58.719 If you want to call. We had a great some great calls yesterday. 14 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:00.920 Yeah, we have some good stuff. Um, so give us a call. 15 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:04.319 Five two zero four one six seventy four forty so interesting conversation today. 16 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:07.480 Well today we are first hour. We're gonna have Jake Fisher, our usual 17 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:11.439 Friday or Friday guests, to come in and just weigh in on the stuff 18 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:14.480 we've been weighing in on all week. Jake's always got some great opinions. 19 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:19.799 Former linebacker at Arizona back in the early twenty tens. It seems so long 20 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:23.280 ago, I know what, ten years ago, ten years since he's been 21 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:26.319 out so um, but Jake's always got He's always got an opinion. He's 22 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:30.920 also one of our great sponsors, so we appreciate having Jake in yere H 23 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.120 every week. And then we're gonna bring in Andy Lopez. The super NC 24 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:38.959 DOUABAA Baseball Superregionals are under way. Uh Andy went to a lot of those 25 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.599 one two national championships when a Pepperdine went at Arizona. He was a coach 26 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:48.959 at Arizona from two thousand and two to twenty fifteen. He's been we've we've 27 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:52.400 engaged in some conversation about all the stuff it takes to be a head coach 28 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:57.840 these days, and he's said more than one occasion he would not would not 29 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:00.519 like to be coaching with all the stuff that they've got a yeah that they 30 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:02.680 got to take care of anybody. I'm gonna give him the right to be 31 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:07.680 the boss of the NC double A. How would he handle all this crap 32 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:10.199 that's going on, Yeah, crap editorial. Well, you know the thing, 33 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:13.199 the thing of it is, Steve. It's like you know that, 34 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:17.439 it's like that big old rolling ball in Indiana Jones, Right, it's rolling 35 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:21.639 and you get in right and if you get in the way, you're gonna 36 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:23.680 get run over by it. And then that's really what's happening. And you 37 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:28.840 know, everybody's trying to figure out ways to do stuff about it. You 38 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:30.879 know, there's even you know, this week there's been a bunch of college 39 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:36.360 people up up on Capitol Hill, you know, lobbying trying to get uh, 40 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:42.199 the federal government to step in and do something about this. But again, 41 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:46.840 I don't know how how, I don't know how they could change what's 42 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:50.159 already going on. I know, you can't put the toothpaste back in the 43 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:52.919 tube, right, Uh, He's gonna use a lot of the toothpastes that 44 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:54.960 you have about So we'll see, we'll talk more about that. A lot 45 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:59.560 of things going on again, with transfers and things like that. I saw 46 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:02.800 some more to day, right everybody's and Arizona basketball progress, so we're well 47 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:07.560 breaking. So I'll just leave it at that. You know, well, 48 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:09.800 you know we're still we're still have we still have guys because of the short 49 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:15.479 time frame. We still have guys who are um, uh you know, 50 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:22.360 he's getting six years you know, six seven years in in uh you know, 51 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:27.800 in in uh in college and uh um you know, I just don't 52 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:31.039 know how they do that. Well there it's a by U approach. Yeah, 53 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:32.560 I mean, I know, I get it. There was there was 54 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:39.360 that one year of um of uh, what do you call it? COVID? 55 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:43.199 Was that one year of COVID. But it's it's still hanging around, 56 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:45.960 and you know, we'll we'll talk about it later. There's a transfer guy 57 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:47.560 who's here at the UFA. However many years ago, when he's going for 58 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:51.479 a six year at his fourth school, it's like, how the hell can 59 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:53.520 they keep doing that? Right, Well, that's the money cost of a 60 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:57.919 cost of a scholarship things like that. Then you wonder why people or or 61 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.759 the universities are going after the money. They have to go after the money. 62 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:03.039 You got to pay some of their bills. Yeah, yeah, you 63 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:05.759 know, and I guess you saw it. You saw it today. Uh, 64 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:10.080 some of the stories out of the Washington State President. I think the 65 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:15.759 president talking about the money that's possible for the PAC twelve. Yeah. Yeah, 66 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:19.839 but now you're getting clarifications that he wasn't really quoting numbers. I just 67 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:24.759 saw one. What was you quoting? Well, he was kind of clarifying 68 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:30.519 that he doesn't really know what the deal is. What the hell did why 69 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:34.360 you say something? Yeah, I don't know. I just so he missed. 70 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:38.319 He didn't miss spoke, He just kind of just said something and had 71 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:41.240 to walk him back. That's not the stuff that we talked about yesterday. 72 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:45.040 They're saying stuff and then other sources are saying, well, that's not true 73 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:48.240 or kind of have to cover up, not cover up, but clarify what 74 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:55.399 they're saying, and they're not saying anything right. Yeah, it's it's just 75 00:04:55.600 --> 00:05:02.000 it's just the ongoing thing. Um of it changes every day, and you 76 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:05.240 don't know what to believe. Even the dates, you know, the lightning, 77 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:09.480 the sand or whatever, it moves constantly. Well, we'll we'll hear 78 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:12.000 something about the end of the month, end of the month. Eleven months 79 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:14.519 later, we're still waiting for the end of the month. I wish Bills 80 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:18.360 would be able to pay like that. Get back to you at the end. 81 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:23.759 Yeah, alright, alright, um, what else, Jason, you 82 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:27.279 have anything? How about the Lakers? Um? You know, off season 83 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:30.680 right now. So we're just what we're gonna We're gonna do as a team. 84 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:32.839 A lot of moves to make, so a final off season. But 85 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:38.399 you know, just watch the final thoughts on my thoughts on my might my 86 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:42.079 rented Nuggets looking really good, looking really good, look good. We'll see 87 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:46.079 what today. I said this when you were here last Game four was the 88 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.000 right. Absolutely think the Nuggets win Game four. They most likely cause it 89 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:53.560 out on five. Maybe the heat, can you know, take find a 90 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.839 way, find a way to extended a game. But the Nuggets won this 91 00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:00.199 series. I think they eat need to win today and yeahn't want you any 92 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:04.040 chance of winning the series. And I'm very capable. I think I think 93 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:08.480 they played better when their backs against the wall, So I do expect them 94 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:10.959 to step up to the play and you know, get this win. So 95 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:16.519 okay. And then the base softball team last night obviously Oklahoma one going away. 96 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.519 I didn't even watch it. It was they dominated very good, very 97 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:24.040 good team. Obviously uh Floria State game a game for a little bit, 98 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:28.040 but of course it's not always. It's not so easy to beat Oklahoma. 99 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:33.680 Fifty three street games, fifty four street games they won, still fun well, 100 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:40.120 it was it was such a fore gone conclusion, you know, even 101 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:44.480 you know again, when they were still in the bracket and Stanford had him 102 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:46.800 in that game, it was too nothing. That game goes for extra ayes. 103 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:50.480 I watched that. I picked it up kind of late in the game 104 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:55.519 on the hopes to watch watching Oklahoma lose. But I'm sitting there thinking, 105 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:58.120 okay, even if they lose, Stafford would have to do this again. 106 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.279 And it's kind of like I lost interest. So I was. I had 107 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:03.319 very little interest in the College World Series this year, and that's a it's 108 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:09.439 sort of a routine for us when we're down in Rocky Point to watch that. 109 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:14.519 A lot of times Arizona is in it, and even when they haven't 110 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:16.759 been, you know, we we we watch it and we we we paid 111 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:20.800 zero attention to it down there. I'm again more interested in baseball, even 112 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:24.639 though Arizona is not in the baseball one either. But you see, you 113 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:28.480 feel like there's no one team that's you know, killing it and it should 114 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:30.920 run away with it. It should be interesting. So yeah, we'll see 115 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.560 what happens. Um with a lot of things. You can if you want 116 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:36.439 to call, get us called five two four one, six, seventy four 117 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:40.800 forty. As we kind of get through the first segment here before we talked 118 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:45.279 to Jack Fisher. Um anything else that's clear this? No, you know, 119 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:47.839 I think uh, I think, uh, you know, we're you 120 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:53.920 know, ongoing with with the realignment stuff, and I feel like you feel 121 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:57.120 like there's something different every day, but it's kind of the same every day. 122 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:00.160 Yeah. Right, it's somebody says something and it sounds different, but 123 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:03.600 then you break it down and it's really not. You know, this thing 124 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:07.800 with the with the the Washington State Uh, was that the president of the 125 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:13.040 athletic director who reported to the to their board of regents, uh, basically 126 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:20.319 saying that he thought that that the the deal, the TV deal would be 127 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:24.839 flat you know, basically whatever what the schools have been getting, which you 128 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:28.199 put them in line with about what the Big twelve is getting. But then 129 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.879 kind of clarified that, well, we've really not seen the numbers, so 130 00:08:31.919 --> 00:08:35.240 we don't know. It's like, then, why did you say that. 131 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:37.759 Yeah, well, get right, And why did you say so when you 132 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:41.879 were talking about just to go back the sixth year? Who are you talking 133 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:48.080 about just anybody? Jordan, He's gonna beginning six Remember him back in the 134 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:52.320 day years ago? Well remember we transferred? What what remember he transferred when 135 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:56.279 Tommy Lloyd got hired after a meeting with Tommy Lloyd. What Tommy Lloyd said, 136 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:00.039 you're the guy. Remember that we had that meeting. Yeah, we 137 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:01.679 we we had that lunch with with Tommy and he tells us, you know, 138 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:05.519 I had a meeting with Jordan and told him everything was great. Uh 139 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:07.080 you know, we told him, you know, he's the guy. We're 140 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:09.679 counting on you. And he transferred the next day. He drunk in the 141 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:13.000 portal the next day and went off and played Louisiana. What was going on? 142 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:16.000 There wasn't any nil going on back then, so what the hell was 143 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:18.200 going on? So he stayed there for a year that I was leaving somewhere 144 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.759 else. Yeah, two years. Actually that was that was very funny because 145 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:24.279 he is gonna be one hundred years old though. Yeah, well you know, 146 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:26.120 yeah, this is gonna be his sixth year of called basketball and his 147 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:31.039 fourth school if he if he goes to another school, if you want to 148 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:33.919 stay in that world, that's fine, that's cool. You guess eventually you 149 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:37.120 have to come into the real world. You have to, you know, 150 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:39.120 if you're a coach, so you have to wonder, you know, how 151 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:48.279 committed is this guy to you, right to your program to win for him? 152 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:50.039 Yeah? But but you know what I'm saying, though, You know, 153 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.360 a guy who's bounced around, bounce around, bounce around, does he 154 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:56.279 care what school he's playing at? And is he gonna give you a little 155 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:58.519 extra by playing for that school? And you just don't. And that's been 156 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:01.759 my beef with a lot of these guys, you know, especially the one 157 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:03.720 and duns. You don't feel like they ever were committed. Well, it's 158 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:07.519 like Aaron Gordon, everybody's all he's gone when I'm okay, he's one. 159 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:09.639 He stayed here for six months. And yeah, Aaron Gordon, DeAndre and 160 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:13.360 all those guys. Stanley Johnson. Stanley Johnson's one that sticks out to me. 161 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:18.320 He was he was never here. Neither was DeAndre Ayton, you know, 162 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:22.919 but at least DeAndre Ayton for up until that last game, he felt 163 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:24.159 like he got a lot from him. Now that you know, we talked 164 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:28.360 about how he took games off and stuff, but he had a he had 165 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:31.639 a run in that PAC twelfth tournament like almost nobody ever had, right, 166 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.120 and so you thought, okay, you know, he's given you everything. 167 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:39.240 And then they go laid down completely in that in that uh NC double A 168 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:43.000 tournament game. And that's the kind of stuff that, whether whether it's true 169 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:48.559 or not, whether it's actually the case or not, you feel like you 170 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:54.480 have to think that they didn't have the They weren't. They weren't all in 171 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.480 on that right, even though it's the NC Double A tournament, And I'm 172 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.320 like, how can you not be all in on an NCAA tournament game? 173 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:05.799 You know? So I don't know, it's uh, it's it's just where 174 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.240 we are, Steve. Yeah, sometimes it's disappointing when you when we get 175 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:13.039 to talking about it like this, you kind of hate what everything has become. 176 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:16.240 But then the games start and you're everybody's playing in You're fine, sure, 177 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:20.440 Yeah, when you get over it, you have no choice. Okay, 178 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:24.399 um again he wants called five two, four, six, seventy four 179 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.320 forty here we are. I thought the Daily started a good story. I 180 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:33.080 think it was maybe Justin who did a story on all the transfer portal guys 181 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:37.240 who've left, kind of where are they now kind of story? Not where 182 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.320 you know, the three guys that you would see uh vegas, Um, 183 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:43.919 all these places are all over the place, all over the place, you 184 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:48.120 know. I mean sometimes you wonder, you know, when a good player 185 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:50.840 leaves, the guy who's playing a lot leaves, you know, like like 186 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:56.320 happening in football, you know, and why you know, if you're if 187 00:11:56.320 --> 00:12:01.080 you're if you're going to a place to play from a place that you're already 188 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:05.120 playing, why why why are you doing that? Well, we talked about 189 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:09.840 this yesterday. I don't blame him now because you know everybody school's an Oregon 190 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:13.759 donor. You talked about the quarterback, the you know, the former quarterback 191 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:22.159 super Bowl quarterback that um he's another coach at Alabama. Tell me Alabama where 192 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:24.279 he's well aware. Yeah, these guys are, if they're any good, 193 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:28.159 they're gonna stay there and then go somewhere, gonna go somewhere else, go 194 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:33.000 somewhere else for money or for visibility or whatever. Right, and and that 195 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:37.080 I get that I get with some of these other guys that like Jordan Jordan 196 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.639 Brown going from Arizona. He's a starter at Arizona. He's getting all the 197 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:45.159 pub he's getting all the attention, he's getting all the playing time. And 198 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:50.879 then he goes to LSU Louisiana, Lousia basically Louisiana Lafayetta was what it used 199 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:52.600 to be called. He goes to Louisiana. That that's one of those. 200 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:58.120 It was a real head scratcher for me, especially after being told by the 201 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:03.559 new coach, Yeah, you're my guy. You wonder what goes into a 202 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:05.960 guy. It's so long ago, man, three years ago. That's when 203 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:09.440 Tommy Lloyd kind of said, you know, hey, yeah I'm here. 204 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:13.639 He's gonna play yeada YadA. Okay, Yeah, so I I know, 205 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:16.039 you just you just kind of wonder what And again, you know, they're 206 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:20.480 seven, they're eighteen, nineteen twenty year old kids were doing this stuff and 207 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:24.440 you who knows who's in their ear? Yeah, and all those things too, 208 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:26.799 who's in there and who's in the pocket. There's something that you just 209 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:28.440 scratch your head in that. 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Different 262 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:27.759 and welcome back to the back Fox Sports fourteen fifteen times Steve Rivera, He's 263 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:32.079 Jakin Saus down the phone. We have former U of a football player and 264 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:36.000 one of our spos, Jacob Fisher. Jake. How are you going? 265 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:38.039 Wonderful? Happy Friday? Ye? Same to you. Hey? How old 266 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:44.680 are you? Thirty two thirty two? If you were twenty six twenty seven, 267 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.680 would you still be wanted to play football? No. Halfway through my 268 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:52.279 senior year, I kind of knew what was going to happen. If I 269 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:55.400 did try to go on to play, so Nie started giving out and started 270 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:57.079 getting old. They always used to call me old Man my samior year, 271 00:17:57.079 --> 00:18:00.160 because I was probably one of the top two or three oldest people on the 272 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:03.200 team, just because I have that wretch your here. So no, I 273 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:06.680 don't think I would have lasted at age twenty six. We'll just put it 274 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:08.480 that way. What do you think about all the guys are staying five or 275 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:14.680 six seven years playing NC double as football, basketball, whatever. Hey, 276 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:15.559 if they can play, they're not gonna be able to do it for the 277 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:18.319 rest of their life by playing prone, you know, making some money. 278 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:21.839 I would do it, you know, if they love the game that much, 279 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:25.160 go for it. And we're gonna help some team somehow. And you 280 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:27.359 know, like this guy that we're going to talk about obviously that was at 281 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:30.319 Nevada and Arizona, then you know, letting me out of the schools. 282 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:33.359 If he can help a good team being a backup center, I mean, 283 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:38.240 as a coach, you take him, right, Yeah, I get it. 284 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:41.599 I get it, especially if you can help him. And every coach 285 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.279 needs a good player or at least a veteran player. Oh yeah, well, 286 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.200 I mean right now, thankfully. Our situation is good. But for 287 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:51.400 a couple of other teams, they might just need a guy to throw him 288 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:53.880 for ten minutes of the bank. Oh you talk about hour, but yours 289 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:56.480 you have a basketball team, right, So at the end of the day, 290 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:00.480 when everybody was complaining about stuff in April, you know, me, 291 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:03.519 this tim me that I think he's let it on a feet pretty good. 292 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:07.200 I think he did extremely well. He got a big four that was athletic, 293 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:11.039 that can play defense, a little bit older, played in the National 294 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:15.440 championship game last year. Obviously got Caleb Love, who played in a championship 295 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.640 game you know a couple of years ago with North Carolina. Last year didn't 296 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:19.640 go the way that he wanted. But you know, even though he was 297 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:25.079 a little inefficient, still average between sixteen seventeen points. Then you get Jaden 298 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:26.680 Bradley, and it's like, I don't know how it's all going to shake 299 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:30.759 up, you know, when it comes to who's gonna start and what's going 300 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:33.680 to happen there. But obviously all these guys signed off on bringing in Caleb 301 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:36.960 Love, you know, so now they're just gonna have to go and see 302 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:38.880 who's gonna start, who's gonna play. I have a feeling those top six 303 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:42.279 guys are all gonna play starters minutes, So I don't think it's gonna necessarily 304 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:45.880 matter if one of those guys comes off the bench. But at the same 305 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:49.079 time, I'm excited for those guys because you have some guys that are battle 306 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:53.799 tested, Like I said, two guys that came from national championship contenders that 307 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:57.279 have actually played in the game. Now it's just about finding out who's some 308 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:00.319 of these young guys, you know, which one can step up and then 309 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:03.559 the development of you know, the big man in the back they sar. 310 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:07.079 If he can step up in a big way, I think we'll be good. 311 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:11.319 Jake, you know when you were playing UM and I'll see you know, 312 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:14.480 while you were there, you know, five years and new recruits are 313 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:17.359 coming in and you know, way different from now right because there's no transferport 314 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:19.599 and stuff. But as guys came in and you knew those guys were coming 315 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:23.960 in to play your position, what was you know, what were your thoughts, 316 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:26.400 what was your approach? How you know? Because so often, for 317 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:30.799 instance, we see, oh he got recruited over and that's why he left, 318 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:33.559 you know, and it's more you see that more in basketball than football 319 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:36.599 because sometimes the football it takes longer to get to a place where you can 320 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:40.799 play. But once you knew a specific guy, maybe even it might have 321 00:20:40.799 --> 00:20:44.000 been a great recruit, was coming to take your job, how did you 322 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:48.680 approach that and how did you treat the guy? Well, the coach, 323 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:49.400 it's on the coach to tell him, Hey, listen, we're going to 324 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:52.400 recruit the best players, and the best player is going to play. So 325 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:56.160 I mean, I think I took two or three different linebackers on recruits, 326 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:59.920 you know, when they came into town. And to be honest with you, 327 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:03.000 you have to have the mindset of I know he's coming to take my 328 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:06.319 job, but it's not going to happen. And so you know, if 329 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:08.480 the coach makes that known from day one, hey, we're going to recruit 330 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:12.279 guys as good. We're better than you, and it's all about who's gonna, 331 00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:15.160 you know, perform, who's gonna play. Then, honestly, if 332 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:18.960 you have the right mindset, you're not really gonna mind because what are you 333 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:21.759 gonna do recruit a bunch of bad guys and then when I leave, you 334 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:23.680 know, you guys aren't great. It makes no sense you know what I 335 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:26.519 mean. So as long as the coach is very upfront, honestly, he's 336 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.400 saying, hey, listen, you know, we're recruiting this guy, as 337 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.839 you know, at the same position as you. He's very highly you know, 338 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.039 talented. Best man's gonna win. And if you're a competitor, you're 339 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:38.680 okay with that. You know where I think of that more than anything, 340 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:44.200 at least as it released your football his quarterback, right, remember rich right, 341 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:47.160 he collected, as he would say, I'm collecting quarterbacks. You know, 342 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:49.799 you go out in if you're north Ffida, all right, you're coming 343 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:52.440 in. You're expecting to be able to get to get get the job after 344 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:56.720 Jayden Delora. But then they've got this kid from Colorado who was a you 345 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:00.920 know, a four star recruit. I think, who's sitting there? And 346 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:03.279 then you know there's more quarterbacks that are you know, in the next class 347 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:07.000 and the next class, and they are recruiting quarterbacks for the twenty twenty five 348 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:10.119 class, you know, and you're going, wait, you know, I 349 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:12.519 haven't even gotten my shot yet. I mean, you know, how do 350 00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:17.880 you how do you handle that? Well? I think that if you bring 351 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:19.200 in a bunch of good quarterbacks, you kind of know that there's going to 352 00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:22.039 be a little attrition and a couple of people might leave. But you know, 353 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:26.000 if you do have a good player leave and you promised him a position 354 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:29.440 and uh, you know he's going to be the starter and then he decides 355 00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:32.400 to leave, well you just made that kid a promise. So it's like, 356 00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:34.039 you know, it's a it's a double edged sword here. You got 357 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:38.240 to recruit good players to back up other good players because you might get burned 358 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:41.640 if you don't do it that way. So from the coach's standpoint, obviously, 359 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:45.799 I understand. From the player's standpoint, I understand, but it's got 360 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:47.440 to be, you know, a mutual thing. Hey, we're going to 361 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:49.160 be burning in really good players. You know, the best man is going 362 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:52.200 to play and then if you know, if things don't work out, obviously, 363 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:56.519 because a coach can leave whenever he wants. That's why the transfer portals 364 00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:59.240 there. If you know, somebody, because they're not going to play their 365 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:02.279 last year, wants to move closer to home and they can start, you 366 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:04.160 know, so that their parents can watch them and stuff like that there last 367 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:07.640 year. I love the fact that they can do that, So I apologize 368 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:12.440 now Jake for this question. But but no, no, because you you 369 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:15.200 were a long time ago. You're a smart dude. That's why we would 370 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:18.759 like you a lot. I think I think the world smart dude, very 371 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:22.519 nice. I think the world of you. But you know, this, 372 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:26.559 this NL stuff, and it was back in the day when you were kind 373 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:30.319 of on the front front line talking about this. It's not what you thought 374 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:33.680 or what you had hoped or or or is it. I think it's perfect 375 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.599 at first. It's kind of a wild, wild last and they they'll they'll 376 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:40.880 put you know, they'll get the reins on it here eventually. But you 377 00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:42.839 know, I'm just always one that says, hey, listen, A coach 378 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:45.759 can go down to you know, Jim Click and do a car commercial and 379 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:49.319 make extra money. They can do a commercial for a federal credit union down 380 00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:52.240 the street. They can do all this extra stuff to bring an extra money. 381 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:56.000 But a player who literally works the same amount of hours does more physical 382 00:23:56.039 --> 00:24:00.279 activity. They're hitting each other in the head, in the face every single 383 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:03.039 day. They're doing extra conditioning, extra workouts. They also had twelve credits 384 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:07.400 of class, some of them fifteen to eighteen. Because they're smart people. 385 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:10.400 Why the hell can I get a check for just you know, talking to 386 00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:14.440 Jim click and getting on the screen for fifteen seconds makes no damn sense. 387 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:17.799 Like you have a guy like a DeAndre Aiden who if he would have been 388 00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:21.359 able to capitalize on nil, he may have been able to send money back 389 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:23.359 to his family and they would have been you know, okay. So it's 390 00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:27.000 like one of those things to where coaches can do it, Why in the 391 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:30.920 world can't players do it. Then he had some of these coaches, like 392 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.319 I think it was you know, Dabo Sweeney at first, who is pissed 393 00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:36.920 off about it. You have a couple of his other coaches that come out 394 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:40.200 against it, and then I forget the you know the idiot's name, but 395 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:44.039 the president of the NCAA Emmer, he comes out and he basically says, 396 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:45.920 hey, you guys are getting an education, and I'm sitting here like ninety 397 00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:49.480 percent of the team, you know, whatever the heck they're studying, they're 398 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.319 not going to do that after football, so let him make some money while 399 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.480 they're hearing. No, it makes it makes all the sense in the world. 400 00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:00.880 But the structure, But what's happening, how's happening? I think you 401 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.759 said it will be events that you figured out. Yeah, I think it 402 00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:08.000 will. You know, it's everything when it first starts is not perfect. 403 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:11.319 So I think they're going to get together kind of figure it out, you 404 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:15.720 know, whether it's you know, whether it's kind of making it a little 405 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.799 bit more equal for the players or what. But I'm one of the you 406 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:22.240 know, people that think, hey, listen, in a capitalistic society, 407 00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:26.000 I think the people that do the most work are the people that you know, 408 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:27.559 mean the most of the university or you know, if you have like 409 00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.880 an Andrew Luck or a cold Demon carry, I think they should get paid 410 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:32.960 more than that. Like me, you know what I mean. So, 411 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:36.039 hey, I go out and make some money. You know, you're gonna 412 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:38.519 have some people they get an NIL deal and it might be smaller, but 413 00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:41.480 they're still getting paid. Yeah. So let me go with that example. 414 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:47.359 We had geist, right or maybe a couple of weeks ago. Obviously he's 415 00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:49.960 done a lot, maybe a few, a few national titles. You just 416 00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:53.599 had another one, and we type duston, how's the nil stuff going? 417 00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:56.640 He says, Oh, that's not for me. It's for football and basketball. 418 00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:00.720 And I'm thinking, here's this celebrated dude with all these titles who doesn't 419 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:04.240 have much maybe one thing. He said, yeah, well possibly you know 420 00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:07.640 the face right now, the face of you know, Arizona Athletics, right 421 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.240 because he's winning national championships and stuff, him and Delaney Schnell, the swimmer, 422 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:14.319 you know. And he said, and he said, yeah, I 423 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:15.720 got a couple of things. You've got some equipment, got some gear. 424 00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:21.640 But you know, he's not making any money off off nil, even though 425 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:26.839 he's probably the best athlete or the most accomplished athlete on campus. Yeah. 426 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.920 Absolutely, And that's that's something that kind of drives me up a wall too, 427 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.039 because I mean, the exposure of this guy guy, especially with you 428 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:37.079 know, how his season ended and how his career ended and all these other 429 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:40.279 different things, and he's probably going to be an Olympi and all these other 430 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:42.960 different deals. He's gonna get some of that, thankfully when he graduates. 431 00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:47.160 I wish there was a way, and I still haven't figured it out one 432 00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:49.799 hundred percent that you know, whether it's the athletics department instead of going and 433 00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:53.599 building you know, a brand new fifties million dollar facility, or whether it's 434 00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:57.200 you know, a basketball games he takes some of admissions or whatever it might 435 00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:00.559 be like some of these big timers. You know, you want to have 436 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:04.440 all of the athletes being able to support this or whether you know, you 437 00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:08.599 have a couple of guys that are captains on you know, the basketball and 438 00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:11.119 the football team coming together and say, hey, listen, like, let's 439 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:15.680 put together our own collective because a lot of these athletes in only football and 440 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.559 basketball are getting paid. So let's go ahead and like, you know, 441 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:22.200 see what we can do for the rest of those athletes. But it's going 442 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:25.839 to be up to the athletes. It's going to be up to the athlete 443 00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:29.960 department. Because you know, you sell a great book and you're not You're 444 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:30.960 well known. You know, you're going to sell a hell of a lot 445 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:36.000 more copies than someone that you know might not be. Um let me say, 446 00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:38.079 uh, you know, I can Andrew Tate where it doesn't matter what 447 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.720 he says, people are going to gravitate towards him. It's going to be 448 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.599 somebody that isn't on television every single Saturday. So they're going to find a 449 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:49.079 way to be able to put money back into those athletes hands as well. 450 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:52.319 I just don't you know, I haven't quite figured it out yet. I've 451 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:53.960 been thinking about that a lot lately though, you know, with with the 452 00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:59.400 you know as much as you've been you zeroed in on this, you know 453 00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:03.240 all the way back your days and playing college. Is the federal government? 454 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:10.240 Is that the right entity to make this work? To the federal government? 455 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:15.079 Yeah, you know, because they get them. They pass up on every 456 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.720 single thing that they try to do well. So, uh No, it's 457 00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:21.000 definitely not going to be It's going to be the athletes because the athletes know 458 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:22.480 what it's like to go through and not make a lot of money. And 459 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.559 it's going to be the folks in the athletic department. Um, if you 460 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.599 have a very engaged president like the U of A does, he's obviously going 461 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.400 to be in talks with it because he's a big sports guy. But no, 462 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.039 absolutely no, it's a federal government. Yeah, I think youventually. 463 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:40.160 It's gonna take a while. Like you said, it's gonna take a while, 464 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:44.000 and I don't know if you can do it, but do it properly 465 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:47.119 because the women. If you're paying the guys a lot of money, the 466 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:51.319 women are gonna want some of that. Yeah, And I'm not it's the 467 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:53.640 way the athletic department is built too. So does that mean everyone's gonna have 468 00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.319 to come together and kind of figure it out? But that's just kind of 469 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.000 the model of sports right now. And unfortunately, some people who are going 470 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:04.880 to eventually be Olympians, like are not getting paid very much, and there's 471 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:07.759 only enough money to go around, unfortunately. But you know, if you 472 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:11.799 have let's say you have a superstar, you know, like a Marcus Mariota 473 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:17.599 or someone like that at a prominent school like an Oregon who's back by Nike, 474 00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:22.880 there should be some way that a lot of those folks can get paid 475 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:25.759 as well as Mariota, you know what I mean. So, I mean 476 00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:30.240 you can find creative ways. Who knows. Since it is the you know, 477 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.839 kind of the wild West in nil, I'm sure that some of these 478 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:34.960 guys that are a little bit more smart than I am are going to be 479 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:38.960 able to figure out a solution, but you know, it starts with them. 480 00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:42.440 So I've heard a couple of different takes on this, and I don't 481 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:47.279 know if we've talked about it with you before. Probably have, but I 482 00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:49.519 don't remember what we said. But put yourself on Arizona football team right now. 483 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:55.039 You're a linebacker, you know, on the football team, you're getting 484 00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.039 whatever the basic that everybody else is getting, you know, wherever you getting 485 00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:04.160 from this stipend and then maybe another five thousand dollars in nil money. And 486 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.880 then you find out Jayden Delora is getting you know, one hundred and fifty 487 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:12.079 thousand dollars. Is that going to upset you or not? And you know, 488 00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.359 no, okay, no, I know the rules of the game, 489 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.839 the quarterbacks, the face of the entire team, or if you have a 490 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.920 hometown hero like Akadeem Kerry who you know, the you know, back to 491 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.720 back seasons is an All American? You know, why why should I get 492 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.160 paid as much as him? That makes no sense? You know? So 493 00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.640 Um, and then you got to also remember like back when they were selling 494 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.279 folks jerseys, like they were selling Nick Foles jerseys. I think at one 495 00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.720 time they were selling Griggsby jerseys, they were selling they sold my jersey, 496 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.079 they were selling Codeem jerseys. Um, you know after I left, if 497 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.599 they were selling Scooby jerseys. You know, the athletic department got pretty much 498 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:51.119 all of that, and obviously Nike got from that. But it's like, 499 00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:55.400 why should the athletes who's wearing that number out there on saturdays not get a 500 00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:57.240 piece of that. Yeah, so you have a lot of different ways that 501 00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:00.720 you can create income over a lot of these players. But once again, 502 00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:06.119 you know the corner guys not including me obviously need to get together and figure 503 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.359 it out. Okay, So think back to when all this started. It 504 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:14.240 was it was largely, wasn't it because of like video games, right, 505 00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:19.160 the college football video game and in college basketball video game. So now Ea 506 00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:22.599 Sports is coming out with their game again and they're going to give guys five 507 00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:27.240 hundred bucks apiece. Everybody gets five hundred bucks. Would you just laugh at 508 00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:32.000 that? Or would you go what the hell? To be honest with you, 509 00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:34.599 I would you know, get a team meeting together and um, you 510 00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.759 know, kind of figure out what the best course of action is. If 511 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.079 if you've got a bunch of guys that are going to be on there that 512 00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:41.640 aren't making an eye on mine, you know, the five hundred dollars to 513 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.599 them will make sense. You know, if you have the star quarterback of 514 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.839 the team, you know that thinks he can happenis on a little bit more, 515 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.240 obviously it makes sense for him to say no. So m everybody has 516 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.319 to kind of come together and say Hey, listen, if you're going to 517 00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:57.440 take the bigger money, like, let's try to figure out a way to 518 00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.799 help some of these other folks. Because I mean, half of my teammates 519 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:06.079 that I was with it at Arizona, they didn't come from like huge backgrounds 520 00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:08.039 of money. So it's like you, you know, as a team, 521 00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:12.319 and this is not for like, like I said, for other people to 522 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.279 dictate, but as a team, sometimes you might want to come together and 523 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:16.839 say, hey, listen, like we can go ahead and we can distribute 524 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.839 a little bit more of the money up at the top to help those that 525 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.799 are working their tails off. You know, if you have a brat in 526 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.160 the room, obviously you know forget them. But I mean there are some 527 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.160 guys that work just way too damn hard to not get paid. No, 528 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.960 I agree, I agree with you. It's okay, Jake, thanks a 529 00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:37.480 bunch. Anything else do you want to talk about? Talk about your your 530 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.839 stuff? Real quick health insurance, life insurance. We can go ahead and 531 00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:44.680 shop for your we're brokers. We're the best in the state of Arizona. 532 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:46.160 Felo. While okay, I give me a call. I've already got three 533 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:50.799 guys from listen to your show over this last week guy, So I appreciate 534 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.519 on the radio again and they're down. Have a happy Friday. It is 535 00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:59.440 actually my mind and my wife's anniversary today, so we're going to go and 536 00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:01.440 enjoy some her here after we get done working. But uh, you know, 537 00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:05.200 thank you guys for having me on. Could tell her she's going to 538 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:12.279 heaven by putting up at you. She knew that Tessidation, have a good 539 00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:15.680 week in happy anniverse. That's really good, guy, see one of the 540 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.160 smart dude. Yeah here really is. 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I know he doesn't 592 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.679 have a fix for this, but what he would do if he could fix 593 00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:07.639 this because it needs fixing is not true? Yeah, well yeah, I 594 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.679 mean, but I don't know. Yeah, I mean the one the thing 595 00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:15.239 you keep hearing from everybody is what's going on right now is not sustainable. 596 00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:20.639 Right, whether it's transfer portal, whether it's it's nil, whether it's all 597 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.960 the realignment talk and stuff going on. At some point, all these things 598 00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:30.880 got to settle to some sort of normal normalcy that everybody can just deal with 599 00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:35.519 and move along and have some certainty to what you're looking at. First, 600 00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:38.480 as I'm sitting here during the break, I was looking at John Wilner, 601 00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:43.239 is the latest PAC twelve hot line? Uh column that it ran in the 602 00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:46.719 Star? Um, just it got posted in the Star literally fifteen minutes ago, 603 00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:53.159 talking about the revenue that the PAC twelve is getting and the things that 604 00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:59.000 come along. Right. The Comcast thing with with PAC twelve when they initially 605 00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:01.800 announced and say we screwed up. They overpaid US fifty million dollars and we 606 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:07.000 kept it. Well, he's reporting now that it's more like seventy Well who 607 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:12.119 was the original twenty fifty fifty? Yeah, so he's your twenty see with 608 00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:16.960 it's more like seventy because of you know, just the costs associated with it, 609 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:23.400 plus a in the in figuring out how they overpaid. There's less there 610 00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:28.840 there now there there's there's less coming in from Comcast. So the overall impact 611 00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.119 of that whole thing was seventy million dollars. So what he what he's saying 612 00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.400 is that, uh, and this won't you know, the actual numbers won't 613 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:38.480 come out. But for the fiscal year twenty twenty two, each school got 614 00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:45.159 thirty seven million dollars from from the PAC twelve that it comes from three, 615 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:46.920 that comes from media rights, it comes from the College Football Playoff, comes 616 00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:51.119 from the NC Double A Tournament. Okay, they got thirty seven million dollars. 617 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.519 Based on his as he called it, back of the envelope calculation, 618 00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:00.519 um that for fiscal year twenty twenty three they're probably gonna get three and a 619 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:06.440 half million dollars less. And then if you extend that to twenty twenty four, 620 00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:08.960 another two point two million dollars less. So over the next two years, 621 00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:14.039 that thirty seven million dollars becomes thirty one and a half. You know, 622 00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.599 and and you know, because these things keep coming along that they are 623 00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.639 different, you know, you know, pack twelve hasn't been able to get 624 00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.719 a team in the in the in the college football playoff. You know, 625 00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:29.079 they haven't had a team in the final four, while UCLA went you know, 626 00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:34.559 a couple of years ago. But you know, it's just the numbers 627 00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.840 on all these things are you know, they're just they're all over the board. 628 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:43.519 And what what I think more than anything, and like we we just 629 00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:46.880 want to know what's ahead of us and not be you know, have all 630 00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:52.559 these grenades being lobbed in from all these different directions, and that's kind of 631 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:58.760 what happens, right well, so we'll see eventually. My thing is, 632 00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:00.840 are you talking about the money? Um, if you're a fan of UVA 633 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:06.199 or any other school, uh, any other school like Uvea's status, you 634 00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:10.079 have money. You have donors given to the university, and then you have 635 00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:14.920 donors. You have donors given to university. Now you have to have those 636 00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:19.719 same donors, if not more, given to n I led you need more 637 00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.559 donors. At some point those pockets go dry. They go your dad and 638 00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:25.440 you have your wife who makes money as well. If it's not more, 639 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:30.599 and like me, you sorry, son, I can't get you that Christmas 640 00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:32.880 gift because we run out of money, right, at some point you do. 641 00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:36.719 At sometimes at some point you do. Yeah, no, you do. 642 00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.880 And and yet you have to figure you have to figure out either where 643 00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:44.039 you're gonna get more money or where are you gonna cut costs? Right, 644 00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:45.000 And that's what a lot of these you know, a lot of these programs 645 00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.599 are doing. Although you know, I heard a thing today. Um, 646 00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:53.440 you know, Texas has read put seven and a half million dollars into their 647 00:40:53.440 --> 00:41:00.599 football locker room that they put ten million dollars in two six years ago to 648 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:04.239 compete, I guess, to compete or to you know, to keep guys 649 00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.719 happy. You know. So we're talking in in in six years, they 650 00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:13.400 put twenty million dollars into the football locker room. I bet you, I 651 00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:16.800 bet you my two dollars a year, one dollar. The Bejean Robinson did 652 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:21.519 not go to Texas because they had nice locker rooms. So what the hell 653 00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:23.039 does it matter? I mean, you know what I'm saying, it's Texas. 654 00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:25.159 Yeah. Well, in that and that was one of things they were 655 00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:30.400 saying. Okay, so it was they said that the current the current um 656 00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:38.519 upgrade each locker, each locker cost seventy five hundred dollars he said, if 657 00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:43.920 you ask a player, are you one seventy five hundred dollars? So you 658 00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:47.920 ask every player, would you rather keep the locker you had and thus give 659 00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:52.159 you the seventy five hundred dollars or do you want the seventy five hundred dollars 660 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.079 into going into your locker? And why are they spending that money? You 661 00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:59.239 know, and they're spending And the thing is they're spending that money then saying 662 00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:04.880 we don't have any money. Yeah, right, we need more, right, 663 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:08.000 and we need more. That's crazy to me that that, you know, 664 00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:13.119 you know, it's six years ago that they they upgraded their locker and 665 00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.719 that much by ten million bucks, and then they already then you know, 666 00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:25.480 each locker has a thirty four inch TV in it. For what, don't 667 00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:29.239 you just put one big screen TV in the middle of the damn locker room 668 00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:32.400 and everybody watches that? Why does it each Why does each player have to 669 00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:36.320 have their own television in there? You don't have time to you don't have 670 00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:38.760 time to watch it anyway, you're trying to get ready to go practice or 671 00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:44.679 whatever. I never heard of that before. Yeah, you know music too, 672 00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:46.639 you know whatever, video games in there, and you know the whole 673 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.320 bit. You're sitting in your locker playing video games. Are certainly not studying, 674 00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:52.079 are you? Let me say that too, because if you're not a 675 00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:57.159 good point, because I wanted to go there. So studying when do people? 676 00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.840 When do the kids have time to study? And is and I'm gonna 677 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.679 be just stupid extremist here. Isn't that what it's all about? At the 678 00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.159 end of the day, You're supposed to go to school to study. And 679 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:08.360 I'm being an old man. Well, listen to what Jake said though. 680 00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:12.280 How many of those guys that whatever they were studying in college while they were 681 00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:15.039 playing football, How many of those guys went on to do what they were 682 00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:19.039 studying in college? No, no, I tell I tell our guy here. 683 00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:21.599 I mean there's a few, right, like David Renchards, the aerospace 684 00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:24.239 engineer, some of those guys back in But this all the time. And 685 00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:28.079 you you have kids who went to UVA, and I have kids went to 686 00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.159 school too. You you have to make your own breaks. You have to 687 00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:34.320 do and do it as early as you can. Because guys, we've had 688 00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:37.599 interns here who've left here who are very good, but they have no jobs, 689 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:42.360 so they're doing something else. Because they have no jobs or or they 690 00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:44.400 didn't do it. Well, you know what I'm saying, They're going to 691 00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:46.320 school and do this, but there's no this there. Yeah, no, 692 00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:52.159 I hear you. It's I don't have an answer, Steve. I mean 693 00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:58.519 it's like somewhere along the line, though, something's got to get Yeah. 694 00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:02.159 Again, there has to be there has to be a normal. Right. 695 00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:06.239 Let me ask you something too, because everyone talk Okay, you know, 696 00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.519 was there a time and in your my age or a work stage, what 697 00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:16.679 it was? What it wasn't normal? Um? Because every generation or every 698 00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:20.800 time frame has a Oh back in my day it was this and that and 699 00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.400 did your dad talk about stiff like this? Do you want to say? 700 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:30.280 Because what was it normal? Ever? Uh? What? It depends on 701 00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:37.239 what aspect of it. Like, you know, was my was my financial 702 00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:42.000 life, my financial picture, you know, my livelihood kind of normal? 703 00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.840 Yeah, you know you had. I'm talking you're talking personally, right, 704 00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:49.480 Okay, I'm talking about just in general for all of us as No, 705 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:54.880 No, I'm talking athletically for you, not you specifically. Um. You 706 00:44:54.920 --> 00:45:00.280 know, I thought things were pretty stable through really through the nineties into the 707 00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:05.000 into the early two thousand because because you had Luke, you had Dick Tomy, 708 00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:08.039 right, they were just cruising along. Was doing really well, Dick 709 00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:12.679 was doing pretty good, not great, but you know it was you were 710 00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:16.159 happy with what with with what was going on? Um and and it wasn't 711 00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:21.400 It didn't seem chaotic like it is now. No, No, you're we 712 00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:24.639 live in a chaotic time. Well, yeah, there's, well there's chaos 713 00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:29.000 for a lot of different things, and there's and the thing of it is 714 00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:30.239 is that without you know, getting on a soapbox. Here, there's so 715 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:34.920 much chaots going on and so many aspects of our lives that it's just hard. 716 00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.599 It's hard to catch your breath at any point. I mean I feel, 717 00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:38.760 you know, walking in from the parking lot to him, I'm like, 718 00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:43.920 I'm tired, and I shouldn't be tired. Right, No, I 719 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:46.119 guess what are the guys who I'll ask again with Lopez. Was there a 720 00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:50.440 time anywhere, maybe when he was at Florida or whatever, when things were 721 00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:52.320 just kind of You're happy to go to work, You went to work, 722 00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.559 you taught kids, you talked about a play baseball, and you put you 723 00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:58.880 know what I'm saying now, it's like, well he got out of it 724 00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:00.719 because it wasn't normal. Yeah, because yeah, because it's not being normal, 725 00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:04.679 or he knew it wasn't going to be normal anymore. Mike Andrea got 726 00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:07.079 out of it because it wasn't gonna be normal anymore. And it's not. 727 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.000 David Rubio got out of it because it's not normal anymore. And it's not. 728 00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:14.400 And you know, it's it's it's it's taken an it's taking a new 729 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:19.880 mentality to make it in some of those fields, like like you know you, 730 00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:22.760 I mean, would you want to be would you want to be a 731 00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:25.440 newspaper sports writer right now? No? Absolutely no. Deadlines would kill. 732 00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:30.800 Deadlines would kill. Uh, the accommodations in terms of access to the players. 733 00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:36.280 I was with a guy twenty four hour aspect of doing social media as 734 00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:38.960 a as a reporter. Plus you can't tell the kids stories. You're almost 735 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:43.239 not allowed to. Yeah, but but but but even beyond that, you 736 00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:47.039 know whatever, the access is just all the things that come with being a 737 00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:52.000 sports writer, you know, because you know, you're constantly getting an ask 738 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.119 to go on dumb ass radio shows like right, you know, we're we're 739 00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:58.679 always getting the radio guys to come on who got perfect timing? For a 740 00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:04.880 game. You're on the arena in the ball Jay, don't be so depressed 741 00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:10.599 today, you know, I know you are, because and it's about the 742 00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:15.079 wildcast world. The dominant team of softball for a long time is this Richard. 743 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:20.360 Who's this Richard? Yeah? But Steve and Jay? You know Patty 744 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:25.039 Gasso, a California girl who's now coached OU for twenty nine years. She's 745 00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:31.599 the new Mike Andrea and she has taken the great players from UCLA and you 746 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:37.119 of A and to Oklahoma. I mean there's ten or eleven of California and 747 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:42.679 Arizona girls on the Sooner roster out in the middle of America. I'd be 748 00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:45.119 bummed too. Well, she figured out, Yeah, she figured it out. 749 00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:51.199 But I'll tell you I'm bummed as a Sooner fan because of our football 750 00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:57.679 situation. Right. Imagine we're leaving our one hundred year old conference to go 751 00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:01.760 play down in the SEC into the Southern States. We have no interest in 752 00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:07.000 it whatsoever. I could care less about any of the teams in the SEC, 753 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:10.360 just like the same way you feel about the Big Twelve. So it's 754 00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:15.079 a disaster. I think I don't know what's going to happen. I hear 755 00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:19.000 you, because you know that's the thing that about that bothers me about what's 756 00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.360 going on here is that. Look, I keep saying, if farz Wind's 757 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:24.559 up in the Big twelve, it's not the end of the world. But 758 00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:29.880 that's not where I would rather be. You know that. You know I 759 00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.119 don't. I'm not interested in going to Ames, Iowa for a for a 760 00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:36.440 football game, right, I'm not interested in going on to West Virginia. 761 00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.679 Well, you know, I grew up in Oklahoma. I'm a fourth generation 762 00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:42.920 Okie, but I'm in Arizona now. I've been here a long time, 763 00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:47.159 and uh, you know, the PAC twelve is a superior conference in so 764 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:53.199 many ways. I mean academically number one, but geographically and physically is there's 765 00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:57.880 not even any comparison. It just doesn't act like Actor Richard to me. 766 00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.679 That's how I know it's Steve Well. We've got some bad leadership out here. 767 00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:07.360 Larry Scott hurt. Yeah, this guy, he hurt the conference and 768 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:10.639 he absconded with all this money. And that leads me to the point that 769 00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:15.400 I think these decisions are in the hands of too few people. It's not 770 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:21.800 very democratic for universities to pick up and move to other conferences and break down 771 00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:25.039 a one hundred year old traditions and when the decisions in just a handful of 772 00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:29.800 people's hands. Yeah. So, Richard, how long have you been here 773 00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:35.920 and followed the PAC twelve thirty seven years? Perfect? Good found you. 774 00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:37.000 I'm getting pretty old. So I'm asked. We got about a minute from 775 00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.960 you for your answer. So I asked Jay this, I've asked people who've 776 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:43.760 called in, who would have some background, who's had it better? That's 777 00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:46.039 a super second Arizona leaves to the Big twelve, and as who stays in 778 00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:52.039 the Pack twelve? Just assumption who had it better athletically throughout the PAC ten 779 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.559 and PAC twelve years. I think to you, have they did because basketball, 780 00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:01.880 softball, baseball, swimming, golf, and track and field. You 781 00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:05.960 looked at the overall balance of the USA over the years. I think they 782 00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:07.679 they they topped out a issue. I think it's pretty close, but I 783 00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:12.280 think you they definitely have had it best. You know, I think the 784 00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.199 last greatest football team in college football in the state of Arizona, though, 785 00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:21.119 was the nineteen seventy four Arizona State Sun Devils. Yeah. He went undefeated, 786 00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:23.199 beat Nebraska and if he has the bowl they got. They didn't get 787 00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:28.079 to play for the national championship. Oklahoma slipped into the national championship because somebody 788 00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:32.760 else lost because they would have been a great game. Well good, that's 789 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:36.920 good, some insight. That's it's pretty much leading to Arizona where we are. 790 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:38.239 Yeah, all right, Richard, Hey, thanks much. We got 791 00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:40.599 to go to our break. Join it. You guys appreciate it, Thank 792 00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:45.199 you, thank you. Good call Richard. Yeah no, look, Patty 793 00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:51.239 Gas has become you know, over at Oklahoma, they become Arizona UCLA. 794 00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:54.159 They lost one game this year that it's gonna it's a strange. She's gonna 795 00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:57.039 have a strangle hold on this, Yeah, for a while, for a 796 00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:00.280 while, like like Yukon in a women's Best m similar kind of thing, 797 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:04.599 and it's gonna take a while for everybody to do catch up, but ultimately 798 00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:07.639 they might. All right, let's go ahead and take our Top of the 799 00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.159 break. Jason has a lot of Top of the hour break, a lot 800 00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:13.559 of break news, and we'll be back right after this