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We call it a podcast from a Mac of All Trade studio in Fairport and
driven by Victor Chrysler Dodge Je Bram. It's Bilified the Bill Moran Podcast.
Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks for
telling a friend. That's how we spread the word about the pirate ship.
Kevin. We got a good one. Tonight. We're gonna meet a couple
of young comedians, Freddy Dooless and a Mirror are Shod. They have a
show coming up they're calling their Birthday Suits. We'll get all the details on
that. We'll also meet and talk to Natosha Stringham, who, according to
the Times of Wayne County, was arrested for promote owning a juvenile fight.
That's the headline. So like cock fighting for teenagers. I don't know,
juvenile fight. And I'm going to take a very bold statement here, but
all the three one five shit that you hear on local media for those that
you don't don't know, this was started by me nineteen. We did that
a lot of time, I know, but and I will explain a little
more when we talked to Natosha, and we may talk to Jennifer Lukey about
some things that are happening in the city. She's a reporter for ten NBC.
But right now we're graced by the sharply dressed Wally Picone, who is
a fourth generation tailor and the owner of Omaris. Am I saying that right,
former owner, former owner? Right? So your son? Yes,
I was gonna say, Matt is now at the Helm and the CEO,
and I figured you you don't have a hand in it at all. I
do. How can you walk away? Oh you can't. That's your blood.
But I certainly have slowed down and um, but I still keep in
touch with my clients. They're comfortable working with me. Wevel up the relationship
over the years. Yeah, you know, they could call me on the
phone tell me, yeah, I need a tuxedo for next month, I'm
going to the whatever. Yeah, you know, we could do it over
the phone or almost they're going to shoot the cons Film Festival, or they're
going to the Oscars. I know you, I know you dressed some some
famous mofos. I know you have. I got some. I have some
really good clients. You do, So if you go to the website for
ame eras. It is one of the world's most renowned providers of fine men's
clothing and an experience you won't find anywhere else. Our team is years of
experience in tailoring suits, jackets and shirts to meet your expectations and now my
favorite part. Our goal is to help clients dress passionately. I love that.
Thank you. Where did that come from? That came from when I
first started in a business. It just kind of took off. I was
thinking about it and I said, I'm very passionate about what I do,
and us passionately became a part of that right from day one. Yeah,
and Matt has now registered that so that it's registered. O'mearroll's name is also
registered and o'marrow was your dad correct? Okay, and so, but he
didn't have the store. Your dad was a tailor for Hicky Freeman. He
correct. He was a tailor in Italy. In the nineteen fifty four,
with my five older brothers, Into and my mother, they came over from
Italy and settled here in Rochester, went to work for Hickey Freeman and spent
the combined total of my mom and dead of forty four years My dad was
there for twenty five years, and my mom was there for nineteen years until
they both retired in nineteen seventy nine. My mom was there only nineteen years
because I was born. You were born, so you were born here first
to be so you are a natural citizen. Then you could be president of
the United States if you chose. I could. I could gift I got
to compared to Biden. I think I might be able to do a pretty
good that we never had. I could, But your brothers couldn't be.
Isn't it funny? Correct? Yeah, because they weren't born on us soil.
That that's interesting down to your brothers still live in the area. Um,
two of my brothers passed away. One lives in Mexico and San Miguel
Dellenda. Really and when three of us live here, what does he do
in San Miguel de Llende. He's a retired architect and he was architect in
Westchester County. Yeah. I grew up down that one, and you know,
made a career out of it and it made a ton of money.
He's done well, he's done well. So we're passionately this this town or
or where he lives in Mexico on the on the water, on the ocean.
It's right in the middle of the country, in the middle of the
country, and the plateau. It's on a high plateau. And who goes
there. It's the most It's probably one of the most sought after cities for
a lot of US citizens that retire. Really to move to Mexico. Why
that? Why? Why do you think you've gotten? You've gotten a culture.
Yeah, there's weather. Yeah, there's inexpensive labor. My brother down
there built five homes that would easily run north of a million dollars in our
Rochester market. You think Mexican labor is cheap in the United States, you
should try seeing it in Mexico. It's yeah, I don't know. But
anyway, Um, there's a lot of reasons why people migrated to uh sam
after it amazing. I would have thought more, you know, on the
West coast somewhere stop something like that. But yeah, it's interesting. Yeah,
I've been there once. It is beautiful. Yeah, but I'm not
a Mexico guy. I'd like, you know, good old USA. I'd
like to be home. I there's plenty of places in the US to travel
to see. I mean and that's why you know. It's it's funny.
I have a neighbors of mine who are from Europe. You're you your family
from Italy, I assume you speak Italian. I do many people who if
you live in Europe, you're going to speak more than one language. And
I remember a neighbor saying to me, yeah, because if we want to
see a desert, we need to speak a different language to go there.
Everything is here contained within the United States, and no question about it,
no question. And I've had the good fortune in my career. When I
first started at Hicky Freeman in nineteen seventy six, I was in the sales
department, and we traveled all over the country to visit with retailers that sold
Hicky Freeman Gotcha and keep them supplied and sold them merchandise and all of the
things related to that. And I was able to see some spectacular things right
here in our own USA. Yeah, And probably one of the most beautiful
places I've ever seen in my life is the Columbia River Gorge. Traveling from
Yakima, Washington to Seattle, the most spectacular and out the spectacular I had.
My parents were teachers, so in the summer, we would we would
travel a lot. And my uncle was a pilot for Delta Airlines and he
was based in Seattle, spect So and when I was just fifteen, somewhere
in the mid eighties, the World's Fair was at Vancouver, So we drove
cross country and uh went all through there and then up into Vancouver, but
stayed with my uncle who lived at the time on Bainbridge Island. Yeah,
that's some stuff. That's some stuff cross country. Actually at times, you
know, because you know you're it is gorgeous. But there are parts of
the United States that are absolutely flat. You get to the eastern part of
Wyoming and you are nothing for a long time. And I even my brother
bicycled. But the tea times in Wyomings Mount Morans and the tea times man,
I stood at custers, I stood where customer made his last day.
Yeah, and that whole area of Montana, Wyoming, Idaho. It's gorgeous.
It's you can't you have to experience. It is something that, honestly,
God, I don't know that you're right, Uh that even pictures do
it justice and and and it's pictures are spectacular, and it doesn't no,
and I doesn't. My uncle, that same uncle moved to Park City,
and I spent a summer in Park City, skied out there. Yeah,
and I'll tell you, the Wasatch chain of the of the of the of
the Rockies is unbelievable. And you get into Lake Powell and then I went
up into Yellowstone, and I mean, you're right, it is some of
the most beautiful country. If some day, if I could have a house
on a finger lake here, a house in the mountains, I would be
the happiest guy on the planet. Yeah. Yeah, you sure would be
one of the luckiest too. I tell you that because the Rockies are breathtaking,
you know they are. But the country's got so many things, you
know, it's anyway, it's a there's a lot of places to visit.
I have many questions to ask, but let's start here. You come over
here. Your parents were how old at the time with your four brothers?
They in their twenties? You think, no, no, no, no,
they were they were. Let me think I was born here. My
mother was forty two. I was fifty nine, so she was probably they
were probably mid to late thirties when they immigrated. And that's quite a bold
thing that was family already here. Not to mention Bill and excuse me for
interrupting, No, imagine doing that night. Now it's like you, yeah,
you have children. I have three. Yeah, God blessed if you
picked up your family, your children. That's what I'm saying, you and
your wife speaking of, you know, having the child all your years here
in the United States and moving to China. This is what this is how
I'm learned, the language learned, the culture learned, not trying to change
anything, just learning to be a part of the what's what's assimilate because to
them, like most immigrants from at the time, the streets in the United
States were lined with gold, and they all wanted a piece of that.
And they didn't want to come change anything. They just wanted to work within
the confines of the way things were, to make a living because they knew
what they could do. And my mom and dad, God rest their souls,
they put six boys through college to some degree or another. Of my
brother won brothers an architect, my brothers a pH my one brother was a
PhD. I mean, they spent a lot of them. So this is
this is sort of my point for saying that, because I imagine that.
Imagine that and where when you're in your thirty stuff, right, it's a
little harder to learn language, and you're trying to get your kids and figure
out one of the teachers teaching them, and how can I help my I
mean, it's a this is a massive undertaking, and I just don't think
it's appreciated by people who have never had that at all. About this story,
can I tell you a quick story please? Now, my mother and
father were obviously very Italian speaking. My mom learned the English more quickly than
my dad did, but still was very broken English. Okay, And when
I was young going to school, I hated to take mom to school because
I'd have to translate from my mom what the teachers saying, and God forbid,
the teacher would say something like he did something in class or something at
the back of that in front of everybody out I had to translate translate.
Such a helpful boy in the cafeterialize it's a good YoY, I mean straight,
that's very funny. But so what made you follow in the in the
footsteps? Because as you said, clearly, your parents didn't expect anybody to
become a tailor, so to speak. And go in there footsteps. Right,
you have a brother's a PhD. And this. But but you,
I'm looking at you. You got a sense of fashion like I haven't seen
the time. Well, that's funny you should say that because in Italy the
culture is you pass on your family trade from generation to generation. So if
you were a butcher, then generally speaking, your kids become butchers, their
kids become butchers, or your tailor their kids become to that. But my
parents always taught us that the sewing needle is very heavy. Yeah, and
the last thing you want to do is so so get your ass in school,
Go get an education, Go get to college degree, go get a
series, be a doctor. They forced this into our brain since I could
comprehend and a little in a way, it's nice. It's independence for you
guys. Right. But the beautiful thing is this, here's the beautiful thing.
So all my brothers have become professionals, you know, one respect or
another, including myself, and I had this opportunity to go see, I
was working at a guest day, I was going to schools working at a
guest day. We're gonna boutique, you know, still loving clothing. In
fact, they called me Hollywood in high school because I was even beck in
high say addressed, I see it. And my brother was working at Hicky
Freeman at the time in the sales department and came to me one day and
said they were higher in and I left and I said, yeah, tell
your buss if he pays me one hundred grand a year, I'll start with
him tomorrow. And so in a couple of days later he came back.
He says, they want to interview you. I said, okay, I'm
twenty years old, iman, you know I'm green behind years. I'm still
don't know what I don't know, Okay. So I went in and a
long story short, I you know, they offered me the job seventy five
hundred dollars a year. I might end like some big, big wages at
that time. Break that down to an hour. And I said, I'll
give it six months. And I'm still giving it six months forty seven years
later. This year it will be forty seven years. I celebrate in this
business, and I don't regret one minute of it because I learned it.
I tried to learn it as best I can, from different sources, from
different media, from different people, from different organizations. I just observed this.
Who would you say then I had the biggest influence on you when it
comes to like fashion, and I mean, you know it's I always appreciate.
And I know this sounds a little weird, but I like the fact
that the glasses and the jacket and you know what I'm saying. I'm always
a guy who I noticed when the shoe and the sock need a mask.
You know, you know yeah this yeah, yeah, what I'm saying like
it's an extension, like those were the things that I was subtly taught.
I mean, I come from an Irish family. Now I'm a couple of
generations down, but about ninety nine Irish. The other one percent is whoever
invaded Ireland. I still have family over there and stuff. But my grandfather
would put a suit on to go to the mailbox, you know, I
mean that was just how they were. It was different then, yes,
but I mean but I've always appreciated that. I really true. That's my
father used to wear a tight Sunday dinner. Yeah, and you know it
was slabber and maccaroni sauce all over the place. But they were you know,
they they would always dress, and I learned it and I became passion
That's where dressed passionately becomes because it's so congruent with who I was and who
I am in clothing. You know, I'm very passionate about club. I
love the every aspect of it. I've learned a lot of different things.
I've learned things that would bore people to tears, but I mean it's just
little bits and pieces. It's those details. Let me just say, you
know, I gotta I gotta give the Italians some love here because I'm a
big fan of imports cars. And when I look, I mean, and
I'll ask you this, when I look at Ferrari. You know, Ferrari,
Enzo was such an asshole. He's responsible for two other car makers,
Lamborghini and there's another one that I slipped my mind at the moment, but
you know, the one went and said I could build a better clutch,
and he kicked them out until Lamborghini went from tractor to cars. And there's
another great car. But that Ferrari is a piece of art. Do you
look at yourself as an artist when you're putting together clothes or fitting somebody for
club? I mean that that really is what it is. Well, no,
I actually don't you know. I'm a helper, I'm a I'm a
gopher. I'm I'm the guy. I just happened to know it. I
see an artist. I just I just happened to know it. So you
mentioned the Italians, you know, you you talk about Ferrari aesthetics. No,
there's cards that are faster than Yes, there are, there's cars that
are more expensive than I mean, I mean there's a lot of that,
but it doesn't look as good man. But it's that name, that Ferrari
name that Monica understands for excellent passion and go passion and glory. Everybody that's
done anything like that, watches you know, Rolex Raymond, Wheel, Philippity,
jewelry Ford, whatever they put in that whole movie about passion. Yes,
for the work. Okay, Ferrari told Lamborghini when they told them a
couple of great stories. But Ferrari told when they they asked Enzo, what
do you think of Lamborghini, He says it in his eric and tell you
thought he said he should have stuck them making tractors. Yeah, And then
they came out with the advertising that if you want to be somebody. You
buy a Lamborghini. If you are somebody, you own Ferrari. You know.
So he was a real eric, but it was because of his passion.
He would not was he would not take anything I have. Well,
Ford went over there to try to work with him, to try to develop
something to win the Lamans, and then he basically said, fuck you.
So there's the other car. That's the one I was taking as a Ford
And that's why we see Ford verse Ferrari. It's a weaker way of telling
that story. It's a great story. It's a great movie, but it's
not the full story. And Ford, as great as that GT is and
till the ferraris at Lamon's year after year in the late sixties. It ain't
Ferrari. No, it's not. And even now an open wheel. They
wanted to buy the plant, they wanted to buy Ferrari, but it ain't
Ferrari. It's not. It's a four gt. They would have ruined it.
Maybe they would have because they were He would have taken that whole assembly
line thing. These are these are handmade engines, man, these are I
mean you practically have the guy's signature on eat off. You can eat off
the mechanics table. Yes, in the in the engine room of the Ferrari.
There's one other. Now I've never been there, but I there's a
guy in town. Same thing. I say it all the time. Cleanest
garage you'll oversee. It's it's a little speech shop over on the west side.
Just beautiful. Absolutely, floors are great and they work on all those
cars exactly. And I don't I don't know own Ferrari, but I'm proud
to say that I've represented the Ferrari of men's clothing. I'll give you that
since nineteen ninety and it's called Zenia made in Italy as a matter of facts
on on your website, and that's like some of those shirts, so you
know you gotta look you absolutely and that's that that collection is uh passion personified.
I mean they talk about doing every little detail the right way. And
you're paying Ferrari prices, but you're in Ferrari. Well, I'm a big
fan of I would rather quality than maybe I buy one, but I got
you know, you understand, Like that to me is what's always been important.
Like I like certain brands. I don't have a lot of them,
but I love them. Because they're special. Yeah, and how do you
feel when you put them on? I feel like a million bucks? How
do you feel? How do you feel I could take on the world when
I put on a decent suit of clothes. Can I come here, dumbass
from west side Rochester, I'm coming in here talking to you. Side point
being is yes, you know, I'm only a man who's built a successful
business. You know, I'm the dumbass by the way, built about family
comes up. Here's a question for your kind of a left turn a little
bit. But Hicky Freeman is going to start moving their manufacturer down by your
brother in Mexico. But they're gonna be keeping someone of a footprint here.
I mean, are you familiar with the whole thing? And I'm there three
times a week and I've been there forever. And there's a lot of misinformation
thought about this whole thing. Okay, yeah, now you gotta look at
it. I'm going to oversimplify it initially by saying that you look at Prince
the musician Prince, and he went from Prince to that symbol whatever for that
symbol was formerly known as Prince. Okay, his music. It's this whole
thing Okay, that's what's happening here in Rochester. It's it's a business.
Okay. So there's a company called Authentic Brands that owns the Hickey Freeman intellectual
property and the name. Okay, they worked the agreement out with this Canadian
firm that had the rights to produce Hicky Freeman for the last I'm teen years.
I'm not sure exact like that, but they've been doing it for a
while now. That license came up for renewal whatever, and they awarded it
Authentic or whoever it was awarded the production and of Hicky Freeman the name the
Peerless, which is another Canadian manufacturer, Okay, Peerless. Because of the
fact that they can't produce, nor can any other American or Canadian firm for
the most part, produce a garment that they want to retail. Between five
ninety five seven ninety five, they went offshore to Mexico, got it.
They can find a factory that's gonna be able to produce it for that kind
of money, and they're only going to sell it to a department store for
the most part. There's going to be a department store in the Midwest called
Dillard's Biggs Department store. That's the only one is going to be selling Hicky
Freeman. Now that's just the name, right, Okay. Authentic brands owns
the name. They want their big they want their vegue. I don't care
who makes it, maybe, right, So they're looking for somebody to make
a suit that's gonna be under a grand correct, right somewhere between five.
They're not authentic brands. They're not. They just want this, okay.
They want to produce that product for whatever reason, for that price. And
it just killed the whole name of the company because it's not Hicky Freeman.
It's not Hicky Freeman. The Hicky Freeman DNA is in those facts in that
factory on North Clinton Avenue that's you know, now being converted partially into senior
living uh, senior living homes and the factory because the production is down obviously,
you know, around the world and men's clothing, the production is down
everywhere, but they're still the capacity and they're still working. They're working their
butts out. They can't have enough people to produce agram. But because that's
the DNA that was Hicky Freeman for one hundred and twenty five years, those
are the people that's toiled over there and their offspring, and those are the
people that have managed the production and the one of my best friends in the
world runs that factory. And I'm telling you that factory right now, it
is producing this quality of garment as it was back in the day, and
I mean back in the day, back in the day, turn of the
century up to you know, right, I'm sorry, I get a little
bit enthusiastic, but we're talking about this is the people think they took the
yeah, the factory, you can they moved to Mexico. No, they
just took the name and moved that to Mexico. So the factory still here
and producing the best garment. I'm telling you what name will be on those
Rochester Taylor Clothing Co. Rochester Taylor Clothing Company. Will your store carry that?
I know it does. But well we've yeah, we've carried Hicky Freeman
when it evolved. See what happened was Hicky Freeman was produced in Rochester under
the Hicky Freeman name. Then it went and moved to Canada and this was
produced in Montreal under the Hicky Freeman name, and so we carried it in
Rochester. Montreal is a fancy city man. Yeah, but the project.
But they ain't got clothes like us. Brother, I don't tell me about
Montrea Clinty some of the best looking people in the world and key back.
It's beautiful. Montreal is one of the coolest of cities and really by or
none. I loved it when I was there, and I wasn't there enough
because I loved it. Canadian clothing is not the same. It's not the
same. It's not the Italians by leaps and bounds and a Hicky Freeman company
that we now call the Rochester Tailing clump by leaps and bounds. Yeah,
I mean, there is no comparison. There are details, I could tell
you what, just fascinating details, things that come up from the years gone
by. There is there is a detail on the button hole that goes on
to La Pelm, my mother. So button holds for Hicky Freeman for nineteen
years, so I'm intimately aware of this procedure. It's called Ozzie La Ozzwi
is buttonhole. Guggieo is shiny. But this is a special button hole that
was primarily constructed for tuxedos because it has a very, very the finest gimp
and the finest thread that wraps a gimp, the thicker of the thread around
the buttonhole by hand. It's incredible, and people all over the world realize
that that particular detail developed here at Hickey Freeman in Rochester, New York.
Look at this. I'm telling you you can't Imrgine. You were telling me
that with the suits that I got my son with the one button, You're
like, that's that's not a normal thing. That's a that's a high end
thing. That's that's exactly right. And there's always details that separate the details
with the passion and glory that comes from the details. I mean, you
start talking about construction, you start talking about style. Yeah, I'm telling
you what. Look at these sportscasters on TV and just look at the shoulders
of their jackets and they're all dressed in suits and ties and they're looking and
they're power brokers. I mean, there's still power brokers out there wearing shirts
and ties and suits and I mean they're looking good. But look at their
shoulders and give you a first if it's if it's serious. Because the should
love and walls shit's on the sportscasters is my favorite part of the hassleback.
What's the guy does ESPN hassleback, but hassleback. Okay, he had his
shoulders on his jacket. They were doing like y And I posted on Facebook,
I said, think it Hasselback, call me our call buddy Randy Mosters
Taylor because his shoulders were packed that they were straight. He could see now
now although Hasselbeck has now found the Taylor, that's the shoulders that he should
be wearing. But the ones he was wearing like there were abortions. Terrible.
Talk to me about when you when you're talking Hicky Freeman, they used
to outfit all the Olympic stuff. Was that stuff that was done here in
Rochester and Rochester, New York? All that Olympic stuff, all that?
Yeah, all that was a rough floor. Yeah yeah, it's okay.
Yeah, I'm not supposed to, but yeah, let me tell you something.
Hicky Freeman's history is longer than that of Ferrari, Lamborghini, Zenia.
Their history is incredible. They suited Presidents Woodrow Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt, Bill
Clinton. I mean, the list goes on and on. Cole and Powell.
We used to have in our stock room. We used to put invoices
on the wall save a famous people, you know, so you can see
the copies they make copies of It's incredible. Should write a book, yeah
right now, what about your own You have your own brand. Our own
brand is is O Marrows. Yeah, but it's made by Hickey Freeman,
Okay, or I should says by the Rochester Taylor clothe Okay, Okay,
that's a nice thing. I mean you want to talk about support local.
That's a big phrase these days now. Made in the USA. Yeah,
made in the USA. Even though the Italians have been a big part of
my business over the years, they've been a big part of it. My
my my blood runs in those halls, yes, on Clinton Avenue. I
bet you did. I bet some real blood fell on those floors. If
the walls could talk, I talk to my friend John all the time.
If the walls gets uh, who can you? Would you name drop for
us? I probably they wouldn't. You probably would like clients. I was
gonna say who the most famous client? Or maybe maybe somebody who maybe is
no longer here, somebody who's not on the planet. You outfit it generally
speaking. I like that you don't say anything but you know, it's like
it's like a it's like privileged information. Sure, okay, yeah you're my
client. Yeah, but I like you know that it's this Italian code.
Yes, you buy my clothes. You want to tell yes, Kevin that
you're wearing my clothes? Yes, yes, do pound you you can tell
them. I'm recourse I have is over the years as I developed my clientele,
I was taught because everything we do is we're taught, okay, And
I studied like a bear. I was taught, if you make a guy
happy, yeah, have him tell the world. Well, word of mouth
is the greatest thing. It's the greatest. So I started telling people.
I said, you're happy with what I do? You you're well, you're
the best. I love you list. Would you mind writing me a letter
of recommendation? Yeah? Yeah, sure, Wally Sure, I said,
listen, you're not going to write this letter because you got a billion other
things to run a company, and you're family. You ain't gonna let me
do it. Yes, I'll give it to you. You approve it or
alter it, sign it, and then I place it. Every one of
those testimonials on that website is the exact same. Uh DNA of how they
got there, I thought, and then they altered it and changed it and
put it on there. And there's some pretty strong names on that list,
okay, and so if you want to check them out, you're welcome to
look at my website. But generally speaking, that's IM. I don't really
speak a lot about like I didn't do it. I didn't do it.
I'm not one of those guys. Other people around the world have done major
athletes and they brag about it, and then they got this guy, they
got that guy, and that's all good and well and great. We were
never that guy. We were that guy take care of the businessman, the
guys coo busy, you know, the the guy that's and the guy closer
thank you. I looked at those jackets, his sons all over them.
Do you ever driver for every Yes, then you know what it's like,
the steel, the glory and passion. Okay. Do you know that I
actually enjoyed driving at Lamborghin even Moore, Oh yeah, yeah yeah. And
one of my best friends has has U two Ferraris with one of the twelve
cylinder. Yeah that's some power but loud. Yeah yeah, But but I
drove a Lamborghini years ago. And this is back in the days of the
Kutash in the eighties. Midday something, okay, early night whatever it was.
And I love that car. That guy was amazing. They are crazy,
but we twelve power. But that's the same thing in clothes. You
put on a jacket, Man, you're gonna go out, You're gonna go
whatever you're gonna do, you're gonna do better. Yeah, I swear to
God. Yeah, you put on it. The clothes can make the man,
and you feel like you can run. You walk into a bar of
dinner place, you look at it. Let me tell you something. People
are looking at you their admirings. Is you know somebody tonight and you're feeling
great? Yes? And why not take that little advantage to feel engraved?
Man, we feel shitty enough. Isn't experience? My good lord? So
talk to me about some of your fashion weak Yeah, fashion, your involvement,
because this is a real opportunity to give. And I know it's isn't
an Elane Spall who's put this together with the with the Center for Youth.
Yeah, she's done a fantastic shot, but it's really trying to help kids
stay off. She's a wonderful woman with a with a heart of goal,
driven and very driven and very focused. And she had she had originally started
it um years ago, and I was fortunate to be one to be in
on that. Think the second year they did it, I started with them,
and then of course now Met's taken over and they've expanded since then.
But it's a chance to bring together all the local talent in fashion and jewelry
and designs and showcase them in one spot and raise money for the Center for
Youth to help the kids that's so much, so badly needed. Yeah,
do you ever help some of these other clothiers that are starting. You seem
like a kind of guy who if I wanted to come pick your brain,
you'd be very open to that. Let me tell you a story. That's
one of my mottos. Okay, I tell these young guys. They stay,
well, what do you know? What do I gotta do? I
said, what you gotta do? You gotta find somebody that did it,
whoever you consider it to be at the top of the food chain in your
business. You find that guy and you go ask him what it took to
get there. I promise you, I promise you he's share every inch of
his experience with you. And as what I yes, as what I would
say, some kid, young kid twenty year will come up and what a
I gotta do? We gotta tell you what to get here? Here?
Write this down, write these down, read these books, do these tapes
to? I mean, I would be happy to share, but they don't
have the balls. I hope I can say that they don't have the balls
to do it, and then they wonder why they don't succeed. Well,
I laid out the plane for you. I've done it. This is what
I save you ten years on your successful curve. Sure if you just follow
these instructions in case some point, why do you teach? Why don't you
teach somewhere? Why why you have our ri I t a fashion? I
mean there's r I I think I never thought about it, never thought about
it, you know. But what my expertise would be in the world of
selling, okay, because I've learned how to sell okay, And selling is
abuse beautiful thing. And selling you take a product like I offer, and
you turn it into you turn it over to a person that can truly be
a professional salesman. People think salesman are con man or schlick or sleazy.
You know they're here for A professional is anything, but a professional is an
elegant, personal, considerate person that wants to help you get what you want,
and he pulls that out of you because sometimes you don't even know what
you want. Okay, so a salesman, pardon me, I got carried
away there, But I love when you get carried away. I could do
what I could do. You know what I want. I'm gonna be starting
another podcast and I haven't even talked about this yet that I may do called
Sunday Conversations and it would be released every week on a Sunday. I would
be honored if you would come and do a one on one like this with
me. That's not you know, to talk about this stuff. And we
don't have to tape it on a Sunday. We tape it any day.
You first of all, talked about a KA because you can. Kevin's great,
He's gonna have to increase my contract. That's okay, I mean right
now, we got to talk to numbers first before we get But yeah,
but I tell these kids, you know, get yourself a mentor get yourself
someone that's been there and has done it, and they'll help you get to
where you are. I saved it ten years. Yes, I tell you're
thirty, you listen to what I tell you. By the time you're thirty,
you'll be where I am. Now they don't do it, and it's
frustrating. So I don't teach. Actually I never thought about teaching. Yeah,
you got a lot of knowledge and a lot of that. That that
word, but it keeps coming up. It runs through your veins. It
is passions right there. It's what I've learned over my lifetime. I mean,
it's the little things I learned through my life. Then, so we
were talking about fashion Week, um brings about for a great cause, the
Center for Youth Elaine Spa. She's a wonderful labe and she does a lot
for our community that people don't even realize. And all these little fashion shows.
We got one coming up on June first. I think, yeah,
June first is the Public Market, and all that week there are shows on
all just the one on June first is the Public Market, Stars and Cars,
the Edgy Night they're calling it. I'm confused because Thursday, June first
and second. When I look at June first is an edgy night, including
everything from lingerie to crochet tattoo artists. Those are they do lingerie? Oh
my god, I got my grandson. I got you got your grandson?
Was Let me show you my grandson has been walking in the He doesn't,
but I gotta block his eyes. I gotta you don't block his eyes.
He's a young man. You want to live. Come on, while now
I understand what Tyler wants to go to. They so, yeah, and
and I thought it was I actually thought it was. This was called Cars
and Stars because they're gonna be a lot of excited cars reading spaces. I
did see that, You're right, they did. They talked about local designers,
batiques, and then it's the thirteenth year Fashion Week. Rochester continues.
Is that the one that's gotta be October? That's gonna be this is June
first at the public Mark. Well, then I'm confusing, and I forgive
me for it's gonna he's gonna sit up racing Randy for the Cars and Stars.
And then on June sixteen, right boathouse, right right? That one?
Cool? Well they what they do with that? Check it out?
It's fabulous. First of all, you got a boat, I got a
ball. I can't afford the ruptrom Nichols together. What are you talking about?
Wrote the pool. But what they do is at the canadiguab was at
the boathouse, and the boathouse it's right nearly erected runway right off of the
house that leads right out to the pier, to the pier where they have
all these boats parked. Then you, as an affluent rochesterrying who wants to
help the kids that need to help for the center. For you, you
run a slip for a thousand dollars and the models all parade back and forth
in front of you and your guests and the pier. Well music is playing.
Everybody great party, fireworks at the end of the night. Is it
really really cool party? Yeah? Fireworks eight thirty. Uh yeah, it's
Thursday night. Features are most elegant brides and grooms. Yea yacht where yep,
veterans and more yep. Yeah. I'm hoping to get on this year
to see this. They got the coolest things out there that I mean,
it's so much funny. You know, it's so much fun because you know,
I even it's embarrassing, but I like to go there because sometimes they
think I know what I'm doing, so they want to get it when well,
he was, well, what would you do it? You know,
what do you think of that? And I'm just there to enjoy the show
because Mats running it. Yeah, Matt gets the models, Math makes the
clothing, Mat makes the donation he does. You're saying this, and I'm
picking up on something. Does is it's hard for your son to stand in
your shadow a little bit? Absolutely? Not no, And I don't mean
like he's standing in your shadow, but you were. You were the name,
You're the guy that started that. Well, not that your son isn't
fully capable, but I mean, don't forget there's many people who associate that
with you. That is you, right, you give it, that's true.
But I've built what I've built, and he's taking it to the next
level. Okay, he's taking it much broader. We're doing We're doing that.
He has a nice website because you can put all your measurements in.
Yeah, yeah, you could do all stuff service almost almost. You could
have a custom sure. But let me tell you something, and you know
I'm old school still yet, measure on you. I gotta see how much
you wait. I gotta look you in the eye and know what you're gonna
feel when you put a pink lapel double breast. You gotta have those pleats
lane just personally, or you gotta have that pan the pockets lane clean.
It's gotta be about up in passion, That's right. How can you give
me some passion over here? You won't believe it because, first of all,
for you, unfortunately, it's hard for you to walk into a retail
or anywhere on the face of the earth and buy something that's gonna be appropriate.
Where I could take because I got a big mouth. See, I
could take, I could take and make the I could take and make a
c rated suit fit you, and you think you got the best suit in
the world on. But it would never happen because you know I'd make you
right. You know I'd make it a quality Yeah, because I want you
to shine. See when you I'm the same way and not that. When
us big guys have to look good man, it takes precision in areas don't
always get looked at. Okay, those shoulders, you know that's what you're
getting with You get a little big in here and your shoulders aren't big enough
to cover. You gotta make a balance so you can have everything slims down.
You look thirty pounds line and you look like you can't do it.
You can't just put it. This is the Men's Warehouse, right, Oh,
you're just store in front of me of world. Say truth be told.
It's a pyramid. Yeah, okay. The business Siemen is a pyramid
down here where the Men's Warehouse and all those inexpensive which are viable, big
time business. Yes they are. That's how big that business is because a
lot of people go there until you get to mine at the top of the
pyramid, which is a very narrow market and very narrow supplier supply chain.
Okay, I'm a pare I don't do what the Men's warehouse. They do
ten million dollars, they'll lose the money, you know, I do.
You know, we do a ton of that and we're fine, We're great.
You know, Well where was where was Red Barn before he closed?
And that he was at the top of the food chain. He was the
top of the food chain. Rod No Don Roder had created it had created
one of the greatest stores in the country, and it was it was voted
so in Esquire magazine. Really, yes, it was. Roods is one
of the top I think one of the top ten men's independent retailers in the
country. Wow, spectacular. He did some credible things. He didn't in
fact, when I worked that, excuse me for interrupted. When I first
started a Hicky Freeman, he was in business, and I admired him.
I said, this guy's you know, he's putting doing pride. You know,
he's doing shit and I'm not seeing you know. That's it was at
the beginning of the discounters and everything. Buddy started the discount and everything.
And that's this guy staying true to his colors. You know, he's staying
true to his quality, his passion. I admired that. And the guy
had a great store for totally closed. He closed just before the pandemic.
We'll talk about getting out at the right time he would have you know.
Yeah, but it was a top shelf, a lot of suit there.
And then it was six months later he closed. I go, I could
have waited. Yeah, yeah, yeah, top shelf, top shelf.
All right, we will will take a moment. Uh man, It's been
fun. While I had no idea Kevin, I had no idea. I
feel bad. I told you I was getting stories. Yes, great stories,
great, but but the past. For once, I'm hearing the stories
somewhat sober. Usually i'm hearing his stories. I'm a little in the back
Yeah, we're in the backyard. Anyway, we're having our time. Man.
You know that's that's good. That's good. I'm gonna see uh.
You know, the asylum seekers has become a problem here in the United in
New York, right, and so now I understand I'd love to here's some
of your thoughts on that, But I'm going to get a reporter who maybe
can explain for people who don't know. So we don't really have misinformation.
Sure, but i'd love to get your thoughts as a you know, you
came over here, You're the product of people who came You're the bus.
Whatever you'd like, I'd be happy to help you with. All. Right,
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high to nothing. Amrecks had four shots. Wow, the Amrecks. Could
this be it? I say, get on that bandwagon and piss off Dan
Brillo, who is not here tonight in the studio, Wally Picone, the
I want to say, the owner, and I I feel like he's gonna
correct me. But o'maras and then the brains, the brains, the creator
and now his son runs it. And uh, while he is a he
is a walking fashionista. Is that? Am I saying that? Right?
Fashion? I mean, you got this guy. I just I would like
to just hang out with him. You're welcome, Yeah, I would like
to. I'd like just to hang out him over. You got to come
over for one of our happy hours. No glass Guinness bottles by the pool.
Though I don't like glass. I likes I said like, and this
is gonna sound bad like I like it, and I like it in the
canno. You know, sounds stupid, but I prefer if I'm gonna buy
it, not out of the tap. Also here is Freddie do Less.
Freddie is a comedian. He's got a big show coming up on the twenty
seventh at Boulder Coffee nine o'clock. Get to tickets in advance. It's called
Birthday Suits. He's doing it with his buddy Amir are Shod and a miror.
Decided that he had to be funny tonight and do some comedy. I
think. So he's warming up. So let me I have questions for you,
Freddie, because I you have a YouTube channel. I do have a
YouTube channel. Yeah, I looked at some of the stuff. It's idle
right now. I'm in the process of getting some content ready, okay,
So yeah, there's a lot of work with all that stuff. It is.
I had a little show it's called Slap Freddie. Slap Freddie I saw,
But what was the premise behind Slap Freddie? So the premises I invite
a lot of people um into my studio apartment and I like, what's supposed
to be the one bedroom that I turned into like a green screen studio room.
It's really cramped. I get people in there and have them watch Slap
fights on my laptop and they don't know what the hell is going on,
and we're just catching their reactions and we get into a lot of nonsense.
It's very it's very unique. It's an interesting concept. We're slap fights.
Are these are people where they're slapping each other across the face. I've seen
these where one guy stands on one side of the table, Yeah, and
another guy stands and you take slapping each other. Yeah. It's actually think
one guy got knocked out into fighting. You got to show on TBS and
everything. He put a lot of money into what is going on in America
that we go this is high entertainment for me. This honestly it's it's the
opioid crisis hit, but it is. You're doing it to poke fun at
it. Well, I'm actually a huge slap fight fan. I like I
was in it before Dan and White. So I've been doing this for like
two years now, but I haven't required any of the episodes. Why are
you a fan? Well, because it's I don't I don't work during the
summer, okay, so I just spend times because I work at RT so
we got ten months schedules, so I got two months free during the summer,
and I just get into YouTube holes and I just find the weirdest sports,
and this sport had potential. I wanted to get in at the ground
level and just grow with it. Do you want it? Would you ever
participate as a commentator as as you ever seen the little people slap fights?
No? I have hilarious. I haven't seen that. It almost feels degrading
in some way. I feel like I need a shower after that. Wally
what do I know? What is that? Yeah? I need a Wally
suit to make myself feel better. I would have a slap fight to get
a super to have to be a dark suitca my suits come with a with
a uh, you don't go slap fighting. And while you're wearing now Freddie
is also fluent in sign language. That's correct and you and that's over at
rit do you interpret? Yeah? Now, how did you become fluent in
sign language? Because you're I don't know what the proper thing is. I
think that we say sometimes typical or I don't know every everything. Well,
I have a son who was on the autis and spectrum, so you would
say a typical child versus a child who's on the spectrum. Those were the
politically correct terms. I don't know if there's one of people who are who
are hearing impaired versus Oh, I see what you're saying. I see what
you're saying. Um, but you any money in your family hearing impaired?
Uh, that you learned sign Yeah, that they don't know sign language.
But there are some hearing impaired people. But I just grew up outside of
DC where they have the huge deaf college, like thirty minutes away. It's
like Galadette. Yeah, Galadett used to play Saint John Fisher when I was
there in football really yes, and they used a bass drum to do their
count Yes, the vibration you could feel the vibration for the players who are
hard of hearing. Right. Yeah, So I grew up around deaf people
and then um, I just learned sign language and then luckily they offered him
my high school after I did Spanish, and it's been every just picking it
up, fantastic. It's not bad. Yeah, just get to talk to
people all day, that's all I do. Bilingual another speaking another language,
that's just well, yeah, spectacular. I was trilingual, but then they
removed the bondis from one of the things. So back down to two back
uh that more at Boulder Coffee. Right, So tell me about the birthday
shoot. Why is it called birthday shoots? This show that you're doing a
Boulder Caffe So my birthdays May thirtieth. The Mirror's birthday is May twenty nine.
So we're like, okay, birthday is close enough, let's just do
a show together. This is the best weekend, Memorial Day weekend. We
got Keith, the owner of Boulder Coffee, to open up extra late for
us so we could do a late show. Yeah. Um and yeah,
just celebrating our birthdays. He's turning twenty one. He's a young he's a
young guy. I'm turned twenty seven. And we built an amazing lineup of
comics. We're not even gonna do too much time ourselves. Oh we're gonna
do like ten minutes maybe to open it up. But then we have some
of the best comedians in New York coming coming on New York in New York,
and you drop the names. I can drop some names. So do
you guys know Joel James? I don't know Joell. Okay, this is
not going well, Like that was supposed to be the one of the big
name drops. I was like, Joe, well, Jay, I want
to know about these guys. I want to follow him. I love comedy.
Well, we also have another one. Um, he's a Rochester guy,
Chris Allen. I know Chris Allen. You know Chris Allen. Us,
Chris very funny, very very funny. Opens up for a lot of
very famous comedians. Um. Yeah, I think he just came back from
the Bahamas doing comedy. So he's gonna be in town. Got him on
the show Rochester's Funniest in twenty nineteen Sean Day. Yeah, he's gonna be
there. Um, and we have two more people. We got one of
my great friends. Her name is Hrelle Gator. And then you guys,
Gator. I should have started with Gator, That's what I should I should
have started that way, that one. And yeah, and then we have
a new comic that we like, Eric Johnson. We're gonna give him like
a five minute spot and see how he does very good. Yeah, that's
awesome. And you know what I like about it is really it is a
birthday gift. You're giving yourself the gift of laughter, right, and you
get to laugh at other people and have a good time. And nobody's doing
it naked, right, not not that I know of. There's one he's
come out like fleeing the Oh. We actually know one comedian who's a nudist,
but he's not funny at drops his pants and it's hilarious. He's Irish.
Uh so, Freddie, do you have you been? Do you go
on the road as well? Yeah? Sometimes. I was actually supposed to
be in Syracuse this weekend, but uh, I have a show to do,
so I can't go. But I was supposed to perform at the Funny
Bone. Yeah, it's a nice room in there. It's nice. It's
upstairs in the mall. Yeah, it's one of the nicer rooms it is.
Well, yeah, yeah, it's it's actually it's not a bad room.
The way to have it set up and the Funny Bone get some good
comics coming through you. Yeah, who who have you? Now? This
is a question or a statement a lot of people make. I have shared
the stage with doesn't mean you were up there at the same time, Okay,
but who have you shared the stage? Stage? Within comedy? Bill
Moran, that's the one person I have shared the stage. We did do
that. But but I mean, I would assume, like Funny Bone and
stuff, what are you doing their middling? Well uh not yet. So
I won a competition at the Funny Bone. Okay, so now they booked
me to come hosts for different comedients and stuff. Right now they're up and
coming comedians because I just won maybe like last month, do you want the
funniest person? Basically the same thing they do here in Rochester for Syracuse.
Not really, So they had these competitions every three months they do where they
get comedians and then it's like ten comedians, we battle it out best five
minutes. Whoever wins wins. You know, they do the top funniest at
them all on Tuesday. That basically, Yeah, but I mean, and
so this is by audience react. Yeah, so audience. They got the
talent manager and the bookers and the clubs they'll they'll raid it and judge it.
And also they do yeah. So yeah, it's a little bit of
both. Yeah, because I know a lot of times, you know open
mic stuff. I always thought open mike was a little bit unfair at times
because if I packed the room with my friends, no matter what, I
get up there and stick the microphone with my ass and fart. They're gonna
laugh, and somebody who's really trying to hone something or work on it that
doesn't get the same reaction. And sometimes I just think that's not fair.
Now, if you can walk into a room full of strangers or at a
competition like that where some people pack the room and you make them laugh,
you're on your way. Yeah, I've seen you do that. That's yeah.
I appreciate that. Because I didn't know anybody last year in Rochester.
I just started doing comedy and I made to the second round, which is
good. I didn't bring anybody out. So what do you think? I
think I got robbed in that second round? Were you there for the second
round? I was, and it was close. It was close there.
I don't remember if it was Bill. I didn't see. I didn't see
the scoring. Well that's why I think I really will say I will see
this comedy of the Carlson does a nice job with this job and the red
and what they do is they you have to vote for three. Now you
get to put down a one for your favorite and then but you have to
vote for three. So that way there isn't we'll call it nepotism, right,
my friend or whomever, and that way the other people and usually evens
out. It's a smart way to do it. That is, he does
a really nice job with that kind of shout out to the comedy at the
Carlson they're awesome. Yeah, I don't know who's behind. Uh, they're
awesome. And like you said, that is a good thing about the thing,
because the competition is that if you're not bringing the people out, you're
trying to get these second place votes from people that come out, and that
will balance out the score. I was only doing comedy for a couple of
weeks at the time, so just to make it a couple of weeks,
yeah, just a couple of weeks, so just to make it a second
round. I was just happy enough. I didn't think I was gonna make
a past for Yeah. Now your passion it is, right, I like
it. I like it. And now you got to know some people,
right, yeah, now now I do, Uh, yes, kind of.
I'm one of these people. I put my foot in my mouth too
many times and I ruined a lot of things. But I'm learning, you
know, I'm getting my back. I was. I had my one encounter
with comedy personal was back in the last Ryder Cup the head at Old Kill.
I think it was nineteen ninety three. They hit. One of my
clients had a great, big party with five hundred guests that is rank whatever.
It was at his home and I happen to have met George Carlin there.
At the time, I thought it was pretty damn so George, yeah,
now, no, I'm not going to try to be rude here,
but it was nineteen ninety five. I only know that because it was the
plane. But his manager is from Rochester. Oh yeah, that's probably connection.
Yes, it was a connection. And then I had spoke to George
a few times on the phone for interviews and things. But the principle of
my high school grew up with the guy. Yeah, so he talked about
it. But George was one of a guy. Now, he could have
used a little fashion tip there. Oh Wally, wow, you see him.
The guy looks like he sometimes he rolled out from under as he had
a black sued on. It just still happened to have a black suit on
that he must have thought was pretty chic or something. But I've seen I've
seen Persian rugs. Then he didn't either he was. He was on top
of his game. Yeah, he was on top of his game. Who's
who would be? You know, we mentioned George Carlin, But who's somebody
that was an influence on you in comedy? Uh? Comedy influences. I
like Dave Chappelle. Yeah, Dave Chappelle, Cat will I was gonna say
Dave Chappelle was he he washing? He was a DC guy? Yeah,
hez guy. Um, Dave Chappelle, Cat Williams. I like a lot
of newer comics to Mark Norman, Yeah, Mark, you got you know
Mark so funny, so funny, good guy. Um. Yeah. I
didn't really watch too much comedy growing up. I just seen like some of
the big people. I snuck in one time to see Kevin Hart at when
I was in college. He was amazing. I was all the way at
the like the top of the like auditorium, and he's so short. The
only thing I could see was like his chain. It was just like sparkling.
It was crazy. He was so funny. I would have you ever
watched any Richard Pryor? Oh yeah, I was just watching Richard Pryor to
honestly, yeah, live live in the sunset strip to me is one of
the greatest ever. And I meant to pull some of the audio from that
because James Jim Brown died. Yeah Jim Brown. Yeah, Jim Brown,
who was a running back at Syracuse big lacrosse player, played with Cleveland,
but he was a good friend of Richard Pryor's. And Richter does a whole
thing where he talks about where he burned himself up free basing cocaine and he
said the emergency and Jim Brown shows up. He goes, what are you
doing? Man? You know I was just a It's a great bit.
Maybe I'll dig that up and we'll play that tomorrow. It's a good guy.
This should be a good show for you guys, I think. So
a great way to celebrate your birthday. It's gonna be awesome. It's a
late show, um, so you know you could do all your Memorial Day
stuff in the in the daytime, get your cookout hot dogs, hamburgers,
and then uh, come and then come by Boulder. Thinking that come by
Boulder. That's got fourth wedding anniversary is Friday on a Memorial Day weekend.
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a practicing da Damn damn. The price MoMA should knock you out. According
to the Times of Wayne County, and that's what a newer mom was arrestler
for promoting a juvenile fight. That's what the headline says. Now, I
have a theory that the Times of Wayne County just gets the police report and
does no further investigation into what goes on. And I they're nice people,
that's fine, But being the guy and I will say that all the stuff
that you hear about three and five in the local media, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna whip my dick out here and tell you that that
was it's because of me. In nineteen ninety nine, when Walter Casper sent
his wife over a cliff and another guy fell off the roof and landed on
an ADT sign and impaled himself, and I go, what is going on?
In three one five? And people started calling people, Yeah, listen,
Natasha. People started calling up my radio show, going we call him
somebody goes, we call him nine ers three plus one plus five equals nine.
And then so we started this thing. Somebody said, you gotta look
at the Times of Wayne County. This this is over twenty three years ago,
right. So I look at it and there's a picture and it's these
two police. They're very proud of a drug bust. And they're in the
bedroom of this house where they did the bust, and right behind them as
a giant dealt on the dresser, very visible in the picture. So we
started this whole thing three one five. We had shirts made up and I
know that you know, the credit may go to other people. But I'm
just telling you that's where the ship started. And so there you go.
But yeah, I've heard of everybody in Wayne County referred to the three one
five verse my whole life, your whole life. Yes, well, I
would think that's the case. Now according may I read the blurb that is
under your photo in the Times Wayne County and if anybody has an issue of
the Times Wayne County is the May twenty first issue, page C three.
Yeah, go ahead, says Newark Village. Police reported the arrest on Wednesday
at ten twenty five in ten twenty five in the morning. Who gets arrested
at ten twenty five in the morning, Natasha, Well, that's when they
That's when I had went down there, because they actually stopped at my house
the like a couple of nights before, just stopped by and said, hey,
um, the DA wants to charge you with that. So sat down
to the station. When you got some time, okay, So when you
got some time, so you got to turn yourself in And did you have
to pay like one hundred dollars or something at the moment, No, no,
okay, I've been Natasha, age thirty four, of Newark. It
is alleged that, while present at a fight between her son and another juvenile
at Perkins Park, Stringham promoted the two to fight. She became king Don
king Uh. Stringham was charged with endangering the welfare of a child and released
on an appearance ticket for the Newark Village Court in June twenty Who blew you
in? Um? Well, so there was a couple of kids there that
recorded it. Of course, all these wonderful camera phones that everybody has now,
um so they all recorded that, and the kid had went home and
he had told his mom. But so the mom had called the cobs.
Of course, the taps come to my house that night and the phaps say,
while there's nothing. We watched the video, there's nothing criminally that we
can do it at both miners, you wouldn't put your hands on nobody.
So there's really no criminal charges that they want something done. So we got
to hand it over to CCS. So next that's Child Protective Services. Yeah
yeah, So see if he has just involved and I'm going I'm dealing with
them, They're trying to find me on inadequate guardianship. In inadequate what guardianship?
Oh I thought you said gardening. Oh no, no, flowers are
awful. Man, you got too many weeds. Okay, So that's gardening
guardian. So you're in terms of guardianship, I got you, okay,
inadequate guardianship. In other words, you're a bad mama. I guess that's
what they're trying to say. Yeah, that's and and and in the eyes
of this this new gentrified world that we wore in a panky that was bad
there. Okay, so why don't so let me just see if I get
this straight. You were at the park. Were you there to pick your
kids up? No? So this is how it happened. So we live
like a half a block from the park, so it literally takes my kids
probably a minute if that to get to the park. Okay, So they
leave here, My ten year old and his friend Louis that here here daily
they go to the park. They come back with him not even five minutes.
So they're like, oh, Colton and his friend case us out of
the park. They decide that we couldn't come back, that we can't play
there. If we come back there, they're going to jump out. Now
there's there's Qulton kid. We've had problems with him. Some once. Now.
It was even to the point where my friend that um Louie's mom,
the one that was with him the day that they went to the park,
they all went to his house trying to jump him with a bunch of friends.
He was at work. How old are they? How old are these
kids? So Michael and Louie are ten, they're ten years old and they're
jump at each other. Ten years old. I don't even listen. My
boys, don't Michael. And this is the first time theyme. But this
is the only time they've ever had any problems with any any kids. And
these kids are in sixth grade. Thought, my kids are are in sports.
So the kids that have been bowling them go. The Colton kid and
his friends they have a gang apparently is called DFL Brothers for Life anyways,
and you're carried out in the body. Yeah, So Coltland and his BFL
gang are the ones that are bowling, and the little kids they're they're sixth
graders. So and they get off on this. The cop said that night,
he told me that these kids go around and they they they mess with
people, adults too, he said, And to the point where when they
when somebody retaliates. They play the victim, and but they're they're the ones
in trouble because they're the adult in the situation. He said, this has
happened a couple of times with the same kids they've seen. They seeing will
Gang are kids that call themselves DFL would it's ridiculous. So anyways, so
they they going on to the park. They chased them out of the parks.
That kids come back here and they tell me, Hey, Coltland and
is getting a friend told us that he can't play in the park, And
like, oh, well, I was on the other subject. Sorry,
I I got sidetracked. My friend had contacted the school where I'm going to
her house and she's like, hey, this kid keeps messing with our kids.
We want to know their parents' names so that we can contact them and
we can discuss this matter. The school tells them that they can't tell her,
that they can't give out any information that they would handle that they knew
exactly who we were talking about, and they would handle it. The school
would handle it. Yeah, that's what the school side. Okay, I
can understand where nowadays you can't give out information. I mean somebody right,
there's some crazy people in the world. Yeah, okay, so they say
they would handle it. Well, we don't hear anything back on her.
So fast forward, it's fine, like a month or so. You know,
every every every time this kid sees our boys, they take them around,
you know where, pretending like they're going to fight them. They've never
really actually done anything. Okay, but that's what they pretend they're going to
do, you know. Yeah. So, um, that day they had
come back and told me I just had Enoughingly, all right, We're gonna
going on to the park. I'm gonna foss the school and I'm going to
see what the how this kid's problement? Like, why do you keep messing
with downy? Did they do something? Can we can we figure out?
Can we can we have a peace treaty here or something? So you were
trying to do what an adult would do. This is almost like I can
you know, I'm thinking of any family sitcom where you're gonna go down calmly
and try to talk to the bully as the parent, Yeah, and it
all blows up in your face. Parents ask only that the bully goat whooped
out this time? Oh okay, but the whole that was the whole whole
you know, idea was to go down there and try to be like,
why can't we all get along? But the way that these kids, these
two adults, now, it's just so what do the what did the kids
say to you? So we get down there and I'm like, you know,
they're they're all playing in the field. I think they're playing kick while
or something. And then get out of the car and the kids, you
know, come up behind me and I like, you, guys, what
is the problem here? And I've seen one of the boys when my kids
wrestling, and I've seen one of the boys they actually teaches like he's like,
you know, like a little assistant culture or whatever, and teaches the
boys and wrestling. And I'm like, you know, dude, what what
are you doing out here? Boling? He said, you keep him wrestling
everything? You know, every week And he's like, no, I just
got here. It wasn't me. And I was like, okay, my
bad. And then the other kids, the other kids, Uh, the
one starts laughing and he said, that's why Michael's pussy for telling his mom.
Oh yeah, see someone went home and yeah, you know what happened
now? No wait, wait, wait, wait, let's play. Let's
play mad lives for a minute here, Natasha, you fill in the blank.
You ready, bitches get I mean snitches, get sitches. Yeah,
I know, I'm not I'm not sure. Sometimes I day, yeah,
that's true. I'm sorry, but there I mean, yeah, but he's
he's a katie was trying to do thing, you know. And and then
in the police's eyes, that's the way that it is a band. He
wasn't yeh kid? If he would have stuck up from soup there without me
too, they all would have jumped in. So so what so what happens
when they call your kid a pussy? Okay? So then I said,
I said pussy? I said, pussy is being a group of jag sixth
traders chasing around sixteenth semis traders, chasing around fourth traders, trying to jump
on for no reason. What did your guys reason? And nobody had not
in and Calton's laughing, and which tours fad and I said, and furthermore
more, Calton, I said, if you were to fight Michael one on
what he whoop your ass? And that's where I fucked up. He come
off, come off the field with his hands up and his happy little smirk
and he's like, all right, then let's go. And Michael put his
bike down and they started to tax them. Okay, okay, so the
kid fought. I won't say. That doesn't sound that bad to me.
I mean it almost sounds like, you know, let's put an end to
this. And I don't know you. All you said was if you were
too And so the kid comes out and challenges and now, well, now
he's kind of calling your bluff. Right now, you got to let your
kid go. Say, I look at Michael, and Michael, you look
at your kid, and you go, don't be a pushy Michael. Get
out there to me, Michael. But no, he was ready. He
was like, yeah, I want I wouldn't get at this kid. You
know, so hypothetically, what happens if your son gets his ass whooped?
If he's got it, if he was getting his butt whoop, that's he
would have had. He would have had to go home and work out a
little bit more. He would have had to take that out. I wasn't
going to jump in have to take the el, so you would have out.
Did he lose? He did not, And I think that's why they're
so mad. That's what I said. That's why I pulled the cop.
I said, if their kid would have got the best of mine, I
bet they wouldn't even be mad at me right now. They would have told
me that I got what I deserved, or he would have got what he
deserved, whatever the case, maybe they wouldn't even best. That's the way
they are so were How much is all this potentially costing you? I have
I don't even know. Apparently a low sphere of cards. I don't know.
I gotta go to court for on the twenty first or something like that.
Huh. But the cop that even books that had to do my little
picture and fingerprints, He's like, I'm not going to say that. If
that was my kid, I wouldn't tell him to do the thing. But
a crimes a crime, and if that's the decision to chuse the mains,
I'm like, well, you guys ain't sit and don't do nothing about anything
anyways, and my kid's not going to be another rip sticker and you will
hang another stop the bullying and poster like somebody needs to do something about this
stuff. Nobody does anything about it. Yeah, another r I p rest
In piece, not R T there's so many in the studio who works at
R he goes, oh R no, no, arrested peace? Yeah,
pie, yes, because you know it's so bad a little you know,
kids, they're literally taking my light over the bullying shit. And I'm not
going to tell my kid to keep keep keep your mouth at just stay away
from them. No. He has just as much great to play at the
damn park as you do. Yeah. So this see where the headline is
a bit misleading. It's not like she was promoting a fight where we have
seen videos. We have seen videos where there's a mom on the side of
the lawn screaming at her daughter to go and beat the shit out of this
you kick her at poll and then the mother can't take it anymore and the
mom jumps in, And that's what this headline starts. No, of course
she would, but I'm just saying that that's what this headline conjures up.
And that's why I always think like there are certain times where you want to
kind of go beyond the headline and find out what the real story is.
And this is a mom trying to protect your kid, and also at the
same time, maybe it's old school nowadays, but the whole thing was don't
start the fight, but finish the fight and stand up to the bully,
and the bullying ends, and uh maybe that maybe that'll happen. Now it
did happened, and we haven't heard of he's from the kid. And that's
what I told the cap. I said, we asked the school to handle
it, and it never stopped. It said, now that we handle it,
I mean, and I did. I did take it a little too
far. I'm not gonna lie. So during their fight, you know,
my son wrestles, so he was just pretty much wrestling him. He was
getting the best of them. I could see the kid was getting tired out,
you know, and the kids trying their skip punching stuff, and he
got you know, a little punch in the ribs or something, but Michael
was holding him with his weight. So I was about to stop because I
did stop it. It's not like I let the kid walk away bloody,
and I learned anybody get their ass whoop. You know. His eagle might
have been a little hurt, but that was about it. Nobody was really
hurt. But he was wrestling him, and I said, all right,
Michael, now hid him, and oh, Natasha and Natasha and the nasty
Natasha. So when does your second addition into the gang the gang's ass.
Well, so these kids come come after the fight, about twenty minutes after
the fight, and now that were in the game, and they said,
well not in Colton gang no more. I do beat them up and they
all went out to pizzas. We need your heat. How gangs were.
Calton's got a new gag. It's called the cry Babies. Culton's cry Babies.
That's funny. Now do you want to tell her your theory? Kevin?
Oh, they've got you featured. Yeah, you're You're definitely you got
the big close up picture your next time is this your mug shots? Okay,
well you're not not compared to bad decisions and day and I don't know
what the other yea ones in there. That's what my friends had. You
said, Well, at least you're the best book and one in the well.
See that, And that's what we think we I think that's what stood
out. Somebody last night saw your picture and goes, I can't look at
this person in the mug shot and go she's not promoting a fight with her
fucking kids. There's no way I'm trying to show on camera the picture for
people to see her face. Um, yeah, I mean, you're right,
it's one of the best looking mot shots you'll ever see. I am
also intrigued you find the fact that there's so many people smiling, and there're
three one five mug shots in this paper. There's at least smiling smile on
that munthshot too. I was supposed to smile on that munthshot, but I
forgot because kind of gave him sassy instead of happy. I was, all
right, Well, I just can't believe the top is that they're telling me
like he agrees with the way that it was handled, and he probably would
have did the same thing, but then telling me that regardless on the circumstances
leading up to what happened, a crime is a crime. And I'm like,
I don't know, I just don't see the fairness or the justice in
any of that. Yeah, well, no, there is no fairness or
justice, And there actually should be a way where I mean, like,
I have three sons, uh two or older now and there are only twenties,
and when they were little and things would happen, the parents would talk
and try to settle it out between the guys, and that would be you
know, hey, you know, hey, we got a little issue,
all right, Yeah, we'd work it out. There was none, none
of this bullshit. Now. I also did tell you that I had a
kid that recently got in a fight in school and uh, suspended for five
days. But that was He lives with his mom, and I think there's
been some issues similar to what your kids were experiencing there too, And I
think, you know, Jamison wants to show his boxing skills. I don't
know one of it, but yeah, I mean, and did you ask
him now? Does the bulling match with him? I bet he solved the
problem? Uh? Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I hadn't
really asked. I think because where he lives, school is pretty much done,
so he was suspended like the last week of classroom instruction, So I
don't know. I think he goes back next week and I'll find out.
I love the story and I love the passion, but I think my entire
takeaway from this is the fact that she just admitted that the newer police and
the three one five police want their mug shots to have smiles. That makes
me chuckle. Do they do they tell you to smile, Natasha, No,
I wanted to smile on that mug shot because I was actually proud for
for the way that I mean. No, I wasn't proud for the way
that I handled it. I could have handled it way better. Yeah,
but people don't heap anybody to stand up for themselves. Like it's always just
I don't know, just a shut up and walk away. I shot up
and walk away. But then that's why all these all this bullying is happening,
and they want to hang all these posters bully free zones. That works
about as good as their damn drug free zones. Okay, like, yeah,
it gets it gets nowhere as I'm hanging these posters. Wait wait,
wait, wait wait wait wait a second, you're telling me that those drug
free zones aren't really drug free zones. Imagine I had no I'm still waiting
for the drugs and toboy I was going to be offered as an adult.
I haven't seen any of those. You're done. No, No, you're
not hanging out with the right people. You haven't spending three one five long
enough the pan Well, I don't know what coming. What kind of drugs
are in three one five. I'm I think what kind of drugs are in
three one five? I was gonna say math that I'm not sure. I'm
not sure that I'm not. I don't think I know so many mess at
it about Molly that I've heard being around next to pills that's around. You
might not want to mess with dolls over killing people. Yeah, one about
coke. Coke can be bad for the with Thewhere got coke? In three
one five? That's everywhere they got baking powder the cold Smarty said, somebody
crushed up. Well, Natasha, you're a good sport. You have a
nice a nice sense of humor, and I think your kids are gonna be
better off. Yes, I do too, I just I don't know.
I told Michael, you have the cops hit on you with the after the
mug shot, any of the cops hit on you? Um, the cops,
I always got funny stuff to say say, but they still arrest me
in the air until how about your husband or baby daddy? Whatever we got
situation going on here? What did he say about all this? Um?
He was actually with us, he told Michael good Joy gave him a pat
on the back and then CPR the fuck does he not getting any trouble.
Me and Michael's Dadad were not together, but he was. But you said
he was at the park when this happened. Yeah, he was with us.
Yeah, but I guess because he didn't. I don't know because I
was. I was the one that was seen in the video. He was
there, Babe. A smart you know that he knew it was. That's
a smart man. That's a smart mane he suck cameras a gap behind that
tree. Well, Natasha, good luck with everything. We may have to
follow up on June twenty first to see what the uh what the punishment is
hopefully gets he's been touching. You know, I'm hopeing that's well. My
my my dad and my step mom there their little researchers, so they're they're
researching and all these anti bowling acts. And there was actually a boy there
as we took his life in Ginea about a year ago. The boy's name
was gl And And you know, the it's just the bullying is out of
control. Something has to be done. And me latting my kids just hustle
with a kid out on the ground and this is so uncalled for. Yeah,
well what I'm called for for what you did. I'm called for for
what I'm being charged with it two different kinds, you know, I'm getting
two endangerments and then another another kind of charge from CPS. I mean,
it's not really a charge, but it's like a couple of different punishments,
isn't it yet that stuff at the beginning, right, I don't either,
And I'm CPS contact with his father and they're like, you know, and
his father tells them, well, you're lucky I wasn't there because I probably
would have put the kid over my knee and put my hands on and myself.
You know, my kids. My kid did what he had to do.
You guys are wrong for you know, not not not dealing with the
actual problem here is that this kid is bullying and and being a problem to
not only my kid, but other kids in the community as well. So
maybe maybe you need to start an advocacy group stand up to bullies. That's
what. Yeah, Like, do people really care enough about that? You
know? I had a people, a bunch of people message me privately knock
as me, and they're like, hey, you know, good job.
We don't want to message on the post because we don't want to be in
the drama, and I'm like, thanks for the support, but I wish
you guys would say yeah, because look, here here's the yeah. Well,
here's the problem. For a lot of people. They don't want to
get involved in the drama. They don't want to push back. But when
you get a bunch of people, when you get a bunch of people,
they can't tell you to shut up. They can't tell you you're crazy.
You can't necessarily say you're wrong when you've got a bunch of people advocating and
saying somewhat publicly that you are correct in how you treated this situation with your
kids. And I think that's unfortunate because a lot of times it's like,
you know, when all of a sudden, they're gonna come and tell you
you can't be on the beach after ten o'clock and five hundred people show up.
Not a lot they're gonna do to get you out here, right,
as long as no one's being a complete asshole in harming anybody who cares.
But I mean, just maybe it's a bad example, but I think you're
you're onto something, and I wish you a lot of luck. You seem
like a good you seem like a good person. So thank for giving me.
Thanks for you guys. It suppore you're awesome. You got it,
Natasha, And be sure to download the podcast now now you owe us one.
I will donoad it out anywhere. You can go to Spotify, Amazon,
iHeart anywhere, Apple, you can get it anywhere. Oh okay,
so the podcast it's called Billified. I'll send you a link later when when
it's posted her tomorrow and uh, you can download it from there. Okay,
awesome, thanks to night you tune Natasha Comedy at the Carlson I'll get
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you're getting one side of the story. You're there, they're they're maybe.
I mean she's slipped up and even said yes, I may have told the
punch her and kicked there. Well, but come on, what competitive parrot
doesn't I mean it's like a kid at you you at a hockey game.
Come on, check him into the wall. I like watching my kids.
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There's a lot of things happening in our world that I think we need to
pay attention to. Monroe County Executive Adam Bellow today issued an executive order most
people who could be listening to this on when I say so. Yesterday,
in anticipation of the possible arrival of hundreds of asylum seekers and migrants from New
York City, and Mayor Eric Adams said that he is going to start putting
as many as three hundred people on a bus and sending them to any of
New York sixty two counties at any time. I don't know if that's without
warning, and I can't tell. He said that New York City was anticipating
the arrival of approximately three thousand migrants during the first week after Title forty two
expired. Back on May twelfth. Rachel Barnhart, who I many people know
for a long time, was in media here. I didn't know you started
at what used to be our News. I did, yeah, our News
was actually my first internship my sophomore year in college. That's how far back.
And once I did that, I was bit by the news bug and
said this is what I'm doing with my life. Of course he didn't last
my whole life, but they got me started, okay, because then and
then I saw you when you were on Channel eight. Then you are thirteen
and eight, and I don't remember which way when I think, yeah,
it was like it was our news eight thirteen eight, Yeah, that's right.
And now big politician, not a big politician. I'm a part time
Monroe County legislator, but I'm loud. So you know, well it's pretty
big. You are loud, and I think that that that you have to
have some guts to be loud because you get a lot of pushback from a
lot of people. Well, you know, I feel very privileged to be
extremely visible and being able to shine a light on what Monroe County legislators do
and to be able to explain government to them, and every single day,
someone from across this county Democrat Republican, it doesn't matter contact me for help
with a problem because I'm the one that they know in government and they trust
me from all my years on the news, and so I'm really grateful and
privileged to be in this position where I can try to help people and also
continue to sort of tell people what's going on and utilize those skills that I
had as a reporter to do that. Okay, So if you were reporting
on this, did Adam Bellow the county executive, did he declare a state
of emergency? He didn't, So okay, I think, you know,
I think this is a case of needing to do something because people are asking
him to do something, and what people here is going to be dependent on
where they are on the political spectrum. So it's one of those cases too
where I'm not sure he's going to make anyone happy, because no, he
did not declare a state of emergency and say no, we're never going to
house asylum seekers. He did not say that. What he said was,
if you are going to enter into a contract with New York City or the
State of New York or a nonprofit and you want to bring more than ten
migrants here, you need to go through RUST first, you need to go
through the county first, you need to send it a plan to us,
and we need to give you the okay. That with his executive order said,
I think that doesn't sound too unreasonable. So that was kind of my
first take as well. Okay, but I did have some concern. So
my first take was, Okay, it's a reelection here, anam Mellow has
to appeal to various groups of people to get reelected. He knows this is
controversial and people are asking him to take a position, and so I felt
like, Okay, maybe he's spreading a needle here. He knows he's going
to really anger Democrats if he takes a hard line against silent seekers, and
he also knows he's really going to anger Republicans if he perhaps says, Okay,
we're throwing our doors open and we welcome your tired, your poor,
your yearning messes, you know, the bree street whatever. I think that's
what he was trying to do here, but I don't know. I haven't
spoken to him about it. But that's how it came off to me.
Okay, now, or I thought about it. But the more I thought
about it, I thought, Okay, I do. I am a lefty
liberal, so I do have a problem with it. And my problem with
it is some of the things that he's saying here, he's sort of putting
a chilling effect on He's basically issuing a warning to new York City and New
York face saying you might want to think twice before you send people here.
Yeah, and there are also pending lawsuits apparently in other person's estate, where
hotel operators are saying, listen, this is against the law. You can't
do this to us. You can't tell us who we can have in our
place, in our buildings. And the other The other thing that bothered me
was kind of tone, the tone of the statement. Tone. I know,
well, let's I'm a woman, I'm very used to being poppily,
but let me do it as someone else. Okay. The Erie County executive
he has been issuing very consistent statements putting framing this in moral terms, saying,
no, we welcome refugees in our community, we welcome immigrants, we
need immigrants here. We know how to handle this. And these are people
suffering some of the worst times of their lives. They literally fly for their
lives and we need to take care of them. Meanwhile, in Monroe County,
we're like, we're gonna take of our own first, and we need
to put up all these barriers ahead of you. And then it's the very
bottom of the statement, it says, oh, by the way we welcome
everyone. Yeah, very different tone. I got you. But when we
look at this now, I don't know how accurate this is. I always
kind of I have not spent enough time to fully digest it all say that,
but I thought I saw on a polling card statement somebody put up what
looked like a tent city. And I don't know if that if that's a
tent city with asylums, or if that's just do you understand what I'm saying.
So when you're well, but it was on Twitter or something. But
my point, of my point is with issues like this, we sometimes fly
by on social media and there's a takeaway. That's why I called you right.
One of the things I loved about Mark polan Car is a statement is
and why I know that whatever? For anybody who doesn't know, let me
jump in here just to say he's the Erie County executive just for people.
I don't know if that was and for and you know this is how I
know what you saw is not happening in Erie County. He was very clear
in his statement. He says, I don't know if they're coming, and
if they're coming, I don't know where they're staying. But what I can
tell you is that New York City and State of New York are going to
pay for their housing, and we have many agencies here who know how to
handle this situation. So that was sort of the other thing that bothered me
about Monroe County statement is Adam Bellow is sort of completing the services provided to
the people in our county who are struggling with housing with the services provided to
asylum seekers. It's not the same stream of funding. It's not the same
type of services. It just isn't. It's two different issues and two different
problems, and two different mechanisms to solve it, so one doesn't take away
from the other. Well, there's a humane part side of me that that
looks at this and says, boy, you know how good we got it?
When people are literally dying to get in here, right, literally dying
to get into this country, now we have we need an overhaul. I
think of our immigration system badly because it's a very difficult process. Uh,
and then we wind up having situations like this where people are sneaking across the
border. We have people here, and so you know, yeah, I
agree with all that. Now, on the other side of that I mean,
I when you know you first said below statement and I would go back
to that doesn't sound so bad to me because if you're getting more than ten.
Look, we have a I mean there are parts of our city that
you wouldn't nobody wants to be in, you know, uh, just for
fear and things, so I don't know where you put them. And also,
look, we're coming out of a pandemic. You think some people will
be very worried about what about vaccinations that people have and could there's somebody be
bringing something in? And not to sound mean or horrible, but I do
think this is something to consider right after we after we've come out of that.
No, no, they've already been at all by the time they get
here. I mean, I don't think that's really an issue, and I
think we needn't. I don't know, we have to. We really need
to put our fear aside on this and need to understand that we can.
We can accommodate people. You know, it might not look like it might
look different in each place, but we can accommodate people, and we meet
people. Do you know, let me tell you something, if we if
Monroe County had shut its doors to immigrants, not that we could ever do
that, but if we'd shut its doors to immigrants, we would have been
in a population free fall. If it wasn't for immigrants, Okay, we
would we would have something like thirty to forty thousand fewer people in this county.
You'd like wipe out the entire town of Child. I I was calculated
ester in there too. Well, you know. I mean. What I'm
trying to say is immigrants are vital, vital to our local economy. They're
vital, and we would be in a free fall if it wasn't for um,
immigrants coming here to Rochester and building their lives. And I think that
we need to welcome people and they want to work, we need to let
them work. And UM, sure, it's a complex problem when you're dealing
with it with a huge volume of people coming over the border and wanting to
make their lives here. Yes, it's a complex problem. But we're up
to the challenge, especially I think in Monroe County and in our upstate cities,
we are up to the challenge. We know how to welcome people,
we know how to do this. We can do this. And I think
that I would have preferred that kind of can do attitude rather than playing into
some of the tropes about um, you know, migrants coming up here.
Okay, when's the mixture? They should have a get together, just no
podcast. We don't need more competition. But we don't know. I mean,
at this point, we have absolutely no idea if people are coming,
when they're coming. We just don't know. And I don't have a problem
with the county wanting to keep tabs on that and be involved. I really
don't. But I do think that words and messaging matter, and that's sort
of where I'm That was sort of where my concern is. I don't And
I mean, you started off this conversation thing, oh is there emergency order
because you've seen what other county executives are doing. Yes, And I think
that that's sort of the impression that might have been deliberate, that was trying
to be created. But I don't know. Again, I didn't speak to
him, but certainly when I saw the press with the press release come across
my email, I thought, oh my gosh, please know. And then
when I read, I said, Okay, this isn't as bad as I
thought, but it's not great. Yeah, Okay, all right, well,
I mean I think that that kind of puts some light on it and
explain to the very very direct and easy way to digest what's going on.
H No, I think that's agree with me. No, No, people
don't have to agree with me. But I think it's important to be transparent
about what what's going on. Yeah. And I also think you so it's
okay to acknowledge that something's complicated as well. I think people get I think
the immigration issue has become one that is a little polarizing, But I would
say that as a country, we need to overhaul that system and that may
solve a lot of them. Yeah. But I think there's a lot of
Yeah. And I think there's actually a lot of consensus on the fact that
people who are here and have been here they need a pathway to citizenship.
I mean, there's actually a lot of consensus on things we could do.
But there are people in Washington who are just paralyzed and can't get it done.
Yeah, when are you going there? I'm just trying to get reelected
to my county legislature set right, Yeah, But I mean, I could
you see yourself going down and become a member of Commerce. I don't you
know, I'm I Why don't you listen? You never say never, you
never for a close and opportunity. But right now, I'm totally honest when
I say I really like my life. I have a wonderful job at a
national nonprofit that's that's focused on poverty. I love my perst time legislator position
where I get to still serve the community and have a voice and feel like
I'm making a big difference. Um, a lot of stuff, like I
said, you don't see because people are calling you every day at super health.
Um, right now, I'm super super content with my life. But
UM, if I feel I can make a difference elsewhere and there's actually a
path to getting there, um, then then I would certainly consider it.
But that right now, I'm just trying to win an election in which a
lot of very powerful people don't want me to win it. But I don't
think they're going to get their way. Do you? Uh? Yeah,
you ever feel like you got to I'll just ask this, with no hidden
agenda or anything. You feel like you got to target on your back at
time? And why do you think that you can't be you can't be me
without that happening. Why do you think that is? It's not possible because
I say all the things. I yeah, I will take a stand even
if it cost me politically. Um and I did this past year and it
did cost me big time. That's why I'm fighting for my life right now.
Although it was it's I should really knock on lots of wood right now.
So I'm in a pinary because of redistricting the mat would you know,
we draw a new mass every ten years, and it kind of was a
huge shuffle, and um, I actually moved. I actually moved less than
a mile to run in a district that was more appropriate for me because they
deliberately drew me into a minority district thinking well, she's she's They thought they
thought they'd put me in a box. So I fought for these minority districts
and so they drew me into one, and I'm like, well, I'm
not going to take that opportunity away from a minority voter. I'm gonna move
to this other part of my current district, right so people I currently represent,
I'm gonna move over here and run this district because no other incumbent is
running in that district. Makes a lot of sense. Right, Well,
the problem is they drew it for this other guy and so kind of a
problem. Um, and so that they're they're like, they're so mad,
Bill, They're so mad that I'm sad I actually moved and destroyed all their
plans to get me. Um. I mean it's not I haven't totally destroyed
the mean I have to win this election. Um, But I think I'm
on track to winning. I'm working very hard. I'm meeting lots of people.
The district. My new district contains part of Aroundicuoit and Arondicuoit. Voters
have been simply amazing to me. I love that town. Everyone has been
wonderful. Uh. And it includes North Winston Village and Browncroft and um,
it's the campaign is going. That's a great neighborhood. But the the thing
I was thinking as you're talking is that, you know, we tell everybody,
we tell young people, we tell our children and things, have a
voice, stand up for yourself, do all that. But when you do,
yeah, when you do really scary, we don't. We don't tell
you the other side that there are a lot of people who are going to
disagree with you, gonna call you names, they're gonna say ship behind your
back if they don't agree with you. And I don't know, Rachel,
if if you have feel this way or not, But it seems to me
that, uh, politics have been politics since Jesus walked the planet. But
well, yeah, because what's it about politics is about government, right and
anything? Power, yes, but in power. But but on the other
side, it feels like now things have gotten more divisive and and you know,
you may say you're a far a little further to the left. I
always think that to properly govern we have to come from the middle somewhat.
But it feels like there's a role for everyone to play. I mean the
Yeah, I've had bipartisan legislation. Okay, you can sign common grounds of
course that that That's what I'm trying to say. And I feel like sometimes
though in you know, in the worlds of or in other places it you
know, these voices come sharp and quick and are judgmental, and I think
it's become hurtful to our political system. Um, yes, but I wouldn't.
I think that the problems with our political system and corruption run ways deeper.
I mean I think corruption, sure, I mean you but but it's
all corruption can be legal, right, So the issues that you're describing could
be solved if we you know, ended partisan jurymandering, if we had perhaps
ring choice voting, non partisan munist collections. I mean, I could go
on and on about the reforms we use democracy to make sure that your voice
actually matters more than it does now and you go and vote. Um,
and and the thinking there is that if we did some of these things,
then you'd have people in office who are more beholden to you than they are
to donors, than they are to special interests, than they are to party
bosses. They would actually do the things that you want them to do,
and that we'd break the law gems that currently exists. So um, well,
good luck with all that. Well, listen, it was so wonderful
to hear from you. I saw your It was really great to hear you
from you, Bill, and I hope your podcast is a success and I
got to tune it more. It's going well. And U one last question
more on a personal uh nature for you? What does Rachel Barnhart do for
fun? Like we see you, we read you, we see you on
social media? What do you do with Yes, I still I'm still a
swimmer and oh wait, the birthday swims coming up. Well, you know
I stopped. I didn't haven't done that since the pandemic started. I kind
of lost touch with the people. But I really want to do it again.
Um. But yeah, I used to swim a press debate every year
on my birthday. Um. So I still swim a lot. And I
walk my dogs a lot. I actually love. I had Penny and Prudy.
I had a little puppy sheep of doodle and sent a little anymore and
my begal rescue who's sick now. And so we walk around a lot.
People see me a lot. And frankly, you know what else I like
to do, really to eat out and drink some wine. And um,
watch sci fi. So you're not jumping on the bandway, we won't see
it down the Blue Flash Arena Friday night watching the Amors. What is going
on? I just missed that. What you're not jumping on the Ambers bandwagon.
You're on team Danny. Oh no, but you know what I mean.
Um, And right now I'm in campaign mode. So I have absolutely
no life, you know, at all? Yeah? At all? Yeah?
Well, walking the dogs, drinking wine eating that into the sci fi?
I mean, do you have any time for sci fi? Or a
lot of voters at the Amor's game this what By the way, I've never
been a big sci fi fan. What do you watch that sci fi?
Oh my gosh, so I love like for all Mankind. Severance is really
good. I just started Silo. I'm sure I'm missing something. It's great.
Really, I've just started it. It's really good. Um yeah that
Severances was one of my favorites as well. Um, Yellow Jackets. I
don't know if that would be like considered sci fi, but there's definitely an
element of cokayness in there. You're thinking Star Trek, Star Wars. I
am not. I'm not into that. I I don't know why, I'm
just not, but um, but yeah I like that and um yeah,
and I've consumed copious amounts of news. I like to write, obviously,
you know, I like to tweet. But um, one thing, one
thing I'd really like to do is just make more time for travel. And
um, that's definitely something I would really like to do. So I'm kind
of need to make but you needs to make a point to do that because
then all of a sudden you're like, oh, I've never done this,
I've never done that some time. Yeah, and then life's over, so
you better get on. That's right, Well, I appreciate it. What
kind of winter are you drinking right now? I just heard to take a
back. I'm drinking. I'm drinking because I heard you into a glass,
because I know them in a glass, I'm I'm an alcoholic. I got
it. You smelled the tan and a Yeah. No, listen, we
had a lace and these meeting tonight. I came home, I poured myself
a glass and now you know, now the secrets out. But whatever,
I'm allowed to do that. Yes, you are allowed to do that,
all right, Rachel. I appreciate your time, and thanks for explaining that.
All right, thanks everybody. There, She goes, Rachel barfarn You
wanted to hear Star treking the worst, right? I wasn't sure because I
don't know if I like sci fi? You can go you like sci fi?
My instant answers, You're like, no, you know I like documentaries.
I love documentaries. I you liked ELF back in the day. Uh,
there's an ALF channel on Sling. There's a whole channel that just shows
ALF. Come on I'm not kidding. On Sling. Go to Sling.
You go to Sling right now in the studio, and there's an ALF channel.
It's just all it's all ALF. It's called ALF. That's the name
of the channel. How many episodes of this show have no idea? I
actually sat down one day and watch I was sad and I watched two episodes
and I felt better. Will yelled. No one of them was that Willie.
They thought Willie was cheating and I don't know they were. Guy,
I didn't know. Idea. They do all kinds of weird stuff. But
yeah, that's uh, there's an ALF channel, but I don't see that's
the things like, I don't like that. The last documentary I watched was
on and One. Netflix has been doing their own series of stuff, and
I find that stuff fascinating. I love that story. I love the story
of people. You know, great things. If you like that kind of
stuff. There's two things, ones on Instagram and ones on TikTok on Instagram.
It's Humans of New York. I believe that's what it's called. If
you look that up, it's people's stories and it's it's fascinating. And the
other is brief but fantastic. I might be saying it wrong, and forgive
me, but if you look up a brief or fantastic, something's gonna pop
up. And they're these short stories that people tell about their lives or what
they're doing or where they came from or whatever. And I love that shit.
I just do. And so sci fi isn't really my thing. I'm
more of a realist and I love comedy. We might have to start watching
stuff and they'll give the TV records to the list nurse. Yeah, I
have no problem with that. I have no problem with that. All Right,
we will get out of here. Omar was fantastic or not Omar,
excuse me. Omar's Wally Wally was fantastic. I was a huge fan of
that. So thank you for that. And for mister Dowless, Freddy Doles
Naked Comedy, for Rachel Barnhart. Oh, and for Natasha the the Uh
the fight promoter in Newark. I worked Natasha fight promotion Allen for Kevin Muir,
brought all these in. For the fly that's flying around the studio,
I'm Bill Moran. Will see you tomorrow.