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Get some facts and come back and
Seebee. Get some facts and come back

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and Seebee. Don't throw out salaries
or other things. Get some facts and

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come back and Seebee. You can't
handle the true I told our players you

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need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats

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in here. Looking in the mirror, I look good. I got my

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extra bands on, I got my
other shoes. Be a doll. We

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don't need no mouns. We don't
need no cats. We need more dogs.

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Why not at the turn? Why
you're not at the day? We

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weren't good. There's no sense of
asking me things about the game. I'm

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telling you we laid an egg.
So I'm not gonna break it down for

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you. He sucks. He sucked. He laid an egg. That's all

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I have to say. Guys,
I'm sorry. I'm not gonna break it

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down for you. Nothing went well
for us. It's on us. We

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have to figure it out, and
we went. It is showtime for the

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final hour of Extus and Bros.
Bottom of the hour, we will visit

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with John Paul morosei MLB dot Com
and Fox. He will join us to

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talk about the MLB All Star Game. From last night, Trek Schoubl's trade

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positibilities, the Tigers first half of
the season, and what we can expect

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the rest of the way for Major
League baseball. That has been a very

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entertaining first half. What's been what's
been the when we get to the poll

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question here in a minute, what's
been the most entertaining part in your mind

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or the most surprising part in Major
League baseball so far this season? There's

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a few storylines. Yeah, that's
a good question. I mean, I

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think we kind of saw one of
them last night with Paul Skeens. This

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this explosion of young talent's been pretty
fun to watch. It has been.

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Yeah, that's a good one for
me. The biggest surprise in a positive

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way has been Cleveland. The finished
ten games under five hundred, and they

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have a guy who has never managed
before in steven vote. They have fifty

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eight wins, tied for the most
in the American League and second most in

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all of baseball. It's not that
they're winning the division. It's the fifty

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eight wins, I think more than
anything else. And quite honestly, the

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other two teams that have fifty eight
wins Baltimore, New York Cleveland's got a

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better winning percentage because they have fewer
losses. Fifty eight and thirty seven is

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Cleveland, right? So and that
from a positive standpoint, it is just

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that from a negative standpoint, I
would say one of two things. Either

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the Toronto Blue Jays, who are
eight games underwater and have the worst run

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differential in the American League East,
or the Chicago Cubs, who I expected

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much more from. I'd probably side
with Toronto. And here's the reason why.

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When you see the talent that they
possess, whether be Guerrero junior,

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or Bishett, or Springer or Varshaw
whatever. Okay, they've got a lot

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of it. I know they lack
some pitching, but they've got a lot

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of it. It's not just the
fact that they are last in the division

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fourteen games out, eight games under
five hundred, and have fewer wins than

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teams like the Tigers and Rays and
I almost said Angels close to it.

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It's the fact that they're considering,
or there is speculation anyway, of selling

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off two of their young stars who
they have not signed to contract extensions yet,

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in Bashett and Guerrero. Those would
be the two for me. Cleveland's

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rise Toronto's fall. Now, that
may be easy, and that may be

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convenient for a lot of people.
I do like Trent's answer of Paul Schimes.

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How about locally, what's been the
positive for Detroit? What has been

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the negative for Detroit? Obvious positive
a schoobl I also think watching Cole Keith

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at least offensively come along a little
bit, that's been fun. The negative,

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obviously is Torklsen. But I mean
we talked a couple of weeks ago,

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Shepp. This is the first time
the Tigers have had two All Stars

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voted in. You know that's been
a positive. Yeah, the first time

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since they had Michael fulmer Go there
as one of two. Justin Upton,

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justin Upton. Right, Look,
I think Schooble's the obvious answer. I'm

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not going to say it's wrong because
he's a cy Young Award front runner.

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I don't think he's just a candidate. I think he's a front runner.

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I'm not going to try and convince
you that I expected him to be ten

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and three, leading the league with
an ERA of two point four to one.

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But remember this, in fifteen starts
last year he went seven and three.

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He struck out one hundred and two
guys in eighty innings. If you

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believe that there is a progression for
talented players like Derek Schouble, this is

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not that outlandish. I like what
you said about cold Keith. The fact

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it's not just his progress, the
fact that the Tigers took him north from

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Lakeland in spring training and gave him
him a chance to fight through the harsh,

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difficult times that everybody knew he was
going to experience. Him responding the

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way he did that to me is
the positive for me. That's the biggest

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positive of this pre all star stint
for the Tigers. I like what col

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Keith has done, no doubt.
Who wouldn't look at how well he has

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played offensively over the last month.
It's almost justifiable. He shouldn't be writing

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home for a two point fifty three
batting average and nine home runs. But

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remember it was a massive, massive
struggle for him to start. He didn't

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hang his head, he didn't pout, and they didn't need jerk reaction like

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many fans do and say send him
down and bring somebody back up. They

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stayed the course with him, they
helped him, and he is rewarding them

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for that. Trust. The negative
You're right, without a doubt, it's

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Spencer Torkelsen. Without a doubt,
him being as productive as he was a

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year ago in the middle of this
lineup would change things dramatically. I'm not

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going to blame him for the tigers
certain woes. Okay, I'm not going

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to tell you that the reason they're
three games under five hundred and the reason

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they're twelve games back of Cleveland is
because of Spencer torkels It goes deeper than

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that. You know that I've said
that, But him in the middle of

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the lineup after having thirty one bombs
in ninety four stakes a year ago,

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if he was on a close pace
to that, and I don't think it's

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too much to expect if he was
on that type of pace this year,

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this team would be in a much
different spot. I don't know if they

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would have caught Kansas City by now. I can't say that they would have

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been in second place of against replacing
Minnesota by now. I just know they

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would be much better than they are
right now. Because it's a desperate it's

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a really difficult thing for this team
to produce the type of power it needs

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without the true power hitter and he
was supposed to be that guy, right,

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And we don't want to overstate this. We don't like you said.

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It's not like the Tigers would be
in first place if Spencer Torkelsen was playing

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as well as he did last season, but maybe they'd be three games above

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five hundred instead of three under.
Yeah, I think that's fair six game

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swing. Yeah, I think there
are guys there. Look, there are

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other guys who've disappointed me just as
much, but I wasn't expecting a whole

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lot from them. I had high
expectations for Spencer Torkleson. Part of the

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reason in the off season I expected
right to win the division, and yes,

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I know I'm wrong. Part of
the reason was because I thought Spencer

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Torkelsen would be able to at least
have an encore performance of what he did

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a year ago. We'll talk to
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us and we will talk about the All

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Star Game from last night. We
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Baltimore in LA want to go all
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strong packages for him. So we'll
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his biggest first half surprises and disappointments, and see how it matches up with

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us. I found this very interesting. We'll get to it here in a

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moment about it. A player demanding
a trade and a possible destination. I

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don't see it happening, but somebody
did write about this. First and foremost,

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let's get to our poll question.
We asked you yesterday, what part

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of ESPN's quarterback rankings do you disagree
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more. Now, remember they rated
him rightfully, so Patrick Mahomes number one,

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Joe Burrow number two. Then you
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and Lamar Jackson four, Matthew Stafford
at five. Jared Goff came in at

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number nine. So we asked you, what do you disagree with more Stafford

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rank fifth, gofrank ninth or other
because a guy like Jalen Hurts was not

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in the top ten. So what
are the final results there? Trent pretty

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tight. Stafford at number five got
fifty percent of the vote, Goff at

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number nine got forty four percent of
the vote, and other with the remaining

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six percent, I would have fellen
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eight was my biggest issue. But
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Little surprising, I thought people,
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Jared Goff throughout the state. You
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it up all the time. I
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him at nine and probably should have
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Rodgers being at eight. Maybe leap
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at the bottom of the hour,
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friend John Paul Morosi. He will
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on a number of different things regarding
baseball in general. All right, very

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interesting yesterday, where as rookies report
to camp and some rookies already have,

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as rookies report to camp and veterans
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the report comes out that the outstanding
wide receiver for the San Francisco forty nine

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Ers, Brandon Ayuk, has demanded
a trade. Now, he's not the

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first San Francisco forty nine er to
do this. There have been others and

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they have settled things with their team. So, for example, a guy

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like Deebo Samuel, remember he wanted
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him. There are others. We
don't have to go through all of them.

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Auk wants, well, you know
what he's done. He's seen the

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extended deals. He and his agent
have seen the extended contract and expensive contract

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for guys like Justin Jefferson, AJ
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Jalen Waddle, Davonte Smith, Nico
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He wants some of that. And
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year seventy five rocks over thirteen hundred
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why he's a little antsy. He'll
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than fourteen million dollars this year.
The projected market value for him, according

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to sports Track is twenty six and
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frustrated. How he's gone about it. I don't necessarily like so. For

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example, there was a shared video
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so that leads to speculation. Right
not cool. Doesn't seem like they're

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handling it the right way. San
Francisco, remember in the draft, what

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did they do on their first round
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out from Florida. Just in case. John Lynch, the general manager,

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also extended the contract of Juwan Jennings
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There is an article out from Sporting
News that says the likely landing spots

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the five best fits if I gets
traded are as follows Pittsburgh. They've got

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around fifteen million in salary cap space, so the money could work out.

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Indianapolis, the Colts have Michael Pittman
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of questions beyond that. The LA
Chargers, how about that trying to figure

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out how to replace a lot of
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the offseason. Now they may go
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Harbaugh and Greg Roman, but Justin
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to sling it a little bit and
he'll probably get his way. New England,

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according to The Sporting News, is
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the league's most cap space, more
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they've got a new first round rookie
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Commanders. So there's the fifteen.
The Washington Commanders, Terry McLoughlin, really

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good player. Jaden Daniels is the
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those social media posts. And the
Commanders do have thirty seven million dollars in

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cap space. It helps to have
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Patriots have itt Colets have it,
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The interesting thing is one more was
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Detroit Lions probably not going to happen. And they say, but one can

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dream a little bit. Would you
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that it would damage the salary cap
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You've already got one highly paid receiver, You've got the highest paid offensive tackle

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in football. You've got a guy
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center, and we all know that
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in the history of the sport.
Only Joe Burrow per season makes more money

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than Jared Goff. You also have
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to have to re up eventually,
Aiden Hutchinson. Primarily, it doesn't fit.

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I know it's a big name.
I know you feel like they need

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another receiver. The money needs to
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like a Jamison Williams question. Absolutely, And that might be the biggest question

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mark going into the Lions season.
I know people will look at the secondary.

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We can talk more about this later
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Jamison Williams is probably the biggest question
mark for the Lions. You don't make

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a move like Brandon Ayuk when you've
got a guy like Jamison Williams who you

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from brows Monday through Friday sixty till
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do not say this lightly, and
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other end of my line. I
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Morosi works for MLB Tonight, MLB
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x at John Morosi and the Michigan
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Exes and Bros. Glad to have
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time when I know you're busy,
and we appreciate it very much. Hell

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of an All Star game last night. Awful uniforms but in the state of

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Texas and the players really delivered.
It was a fun watch don't you think

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it was? Yeah, and thanks
for the very kind of introduction. All

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the respects right back to you,
my friend. Thanks for everything over the

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years and all the amazing guidance you've
given me and your friendship that means the

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world number one first and foremost so. But yeah, the All Star Game

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last night, I was pretty impressed
actually by the way the game unfolded.

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You're right, I would prefer to
see the old English d on the field

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as opposed to the Jerseys as we
saw them last night. But be that

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as it may. The big moments, Oh Tani Howard, we got to

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see judge versus Skenes Jared Duran.
What an amazing performance for him and someone

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who I think has really inspired a
lot of people by talking about his journey

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with mental health as well. For
him to be the MVP very fitting in

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a beautiful moment for him and his
family. So this is I think overall,

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Chef, a great midsommer classic and
a very beautiful way to begin the

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second half of the season. Yeah, Paul Skeens was amazing. I really

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was hoping, I think, like
a lot of Tigers fans, that Terrek

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Skubel was going to start the game. But look he comes in second.

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He really impresses. I don't want
to say it's he should have been,

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you know where he is right now
because he had a good, strong finish

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a year ago. But what's impressed
you most about Erk Skoobel and his maturation

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this year? Wow, Chef.
I mean, he basically has, in

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my estimation, as good of a
collection of pitches on the left side as

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we have seen in a very very
long time. It is it is like

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a peak David Price. You want
to say, Cec Sabathia, And again

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we got to see Cherik do it
for longer before we put him in the

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category of what David has done and
Cec has done, and certainly Kershaw's on

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a way next level, But just
in terms of the stuff that he's got,

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the ability to execute pitches and be
consistent. I mean that to me

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is what what has separated Trek from
basically everybody else in the game the season,

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Chef, is that you know,
we saw him mature and come along.

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You did a great job of describing
his starts for the early throughout his

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career, and you saw, I
think, the ability to make pitches.

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But now he's just making so many
fewer mistake now during the course of an

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outing, where every pitch, it
seems, is perfectly executed. It's not

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just the stuff, but the commander
where it's located. That, to me

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is what stands out with him and
just I think the ability for him to

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withstand a high workload is really unique, and that is something I think is

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very special in the game right now. We don't see a lot of guys

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that do that. But he's got
that Andy Pettitt persona on the mound right

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now, and it's a lot of
fun to watch TV radio print. He

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does it all. He is John
Paul Morosi, not just in baseball,

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by the way, hockey as well. You can follow him on x at

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John Morosi. You know the big
question. Your good friend Tom Verducci,

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who is very good at what he
does as well, talked about how the

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Dodgers and the Orioles are trying to
put together a big package to go after

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pitching, and one would think Derek
Scoubel would be directly in their cross hairs.

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It's easy to ask, would you
trade them? The harder question to

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answer is what do you need to
get in return? Because I remind people

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that when Verlander went to Houston,
Houston gave them three of their top eleven

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prospects. Personally, I don't want
prospects. I think they need major league

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baseball ready. Guys, what's your
overall take on if and what Detroit should

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get should Trek Scooble be on the
market, Well, sheepy, you're exactly

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right, and that's where the conversation
is picking up if you're going to move

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Schooble. And where the Tigers are
in a good position is they don't have

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to. I think the industry knows
they don't have to. It's not as

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though he's making a ton of money
and that they're under duress to move the

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contract. You can basically make the
deal that you want or just walk away

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and say hey, we'll catch up
with you in the offseason, or'll catch

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up with you next year's trade deadline, or maybe never, depending on how

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things play outs. But you can
be too here and and if I'm the

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Tigers, and if I'm talking with
with the Dodgers, I would say,

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Hey, Gavin Stone, who's already
in the major leagues and is one of

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the Dodgers starting pitchers right now,
he's got to be in the deal.

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And if they say no, say
okay, well, we'll catch up later.

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I mean, this, this is
where they're at. I mean,

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if you're if you are, if
you're trading Schooble Jef, I fundamentally agree

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with you. If you're talking with
the Orioles, say hey, I got

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it. The name of Colden Kowser
or Jackson Holiday or maybe even Jordan Westberg,

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who by the way, was an
All Star last night. One of

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them has to be in the deal. And if they say that that's crazy

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and that's asking too much, say
okay, fine, we'll catch up with

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you later on. I mean,
I do think that Scott Harris and the

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Tigers they probably owe it to themselves
and the organization to explore this. I

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know that that fans won't want to
hear that, but I think they have

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to at least go down that path. I mean, at the moment,

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Tigers do not have a winning record. They're below five hundred. They're looking

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up at three teams in the Central. If they were ten games over five

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hundred right now, it'd be a
different conversation. But they're not. You

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have to deal with the reality that
you got. But part of that reality

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also is that Schooble has two years
of control beyond this year, and you

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don't have to act like you need
to rush into a deal to make it

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now. That being said, a
little different conversation, but still something that

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history that you and I know well
the Tigers missed their window to trade Michael

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Foehmer when they did years ago.
I know it was different front office,

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different everything, but Foemer was still
pretty young in the way that school is

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still pretty young, and the Tigers
probably could have gotten a franchise changing return

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for Fomer if they had really done
it the right way, and then he

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started getting hurt and he was never
the same after that in a Tiger uniform.

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That is the downside of this to
where you also don't want to overplay

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your head. You don't want to
under play it, but you don't want

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to overplay it either, And I
think that's where I think Scott Harris needs

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to do a lot of due diligence
with this team in the next couple of

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weeks. I missed opportunity last year
with Eduardo Rodriguez as well. Yes,

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exactly the same with one of the
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So it's you're exactly right. There
should have been more value brought back

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to the organization last year than was
at the deadline. Now, how you

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lead, there are people that really
like what he's been able to do in

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the minor leagues, and I think
that he's got a chance to be an

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everyday batan the Tigers going forward.
So well done by the front office on

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the acquisition of Lee last year in
the Lorenzen deal. But you're right,

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this organization should have probably two more
quality players either in the high miners or

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the major leagues already, who are
not there right now because the Rodriguez deal

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did not happen as it should have
two other names from the Baltimore organization in

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case people are wondering. Kobe Mayo, who's a third baseman, first basement

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twenty two year old Triple A doing
very well, hitting with power. And

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Connor Norby, a second basement slash
outfield also at Triple A, a little

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older at twenty four, but blocked
to a certain extent in Baltimore and is

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having big power and hitting over three
hundred at Triple A as well. John

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Paul Morosi joining us here on X's
and bros So Schooble's in that conversation.

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For sure, I agree one hundred
percent with everything you've said. What about

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Jack Flaherty, Is it a must
trade for the Tigers with him? And

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if so, what could you get
in return for a guy who's had kind

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of a renaissance to a certain extent
he has, Yes, Yeah, But

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it's an interesting conversation because last year
at this time Flarity also has moved to

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the deadline. I think you know, this year he's now had a little

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bit of a back issue that that
knocked him out of one start. Hopefully

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that's not a long term thing.
I do think he's clearly somebody that you

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would trade, and because he's on
an expiring contract, because you're not in

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a strong intending position at the moment, you probably have to temper your expectations

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a bit, broadly speaking in terms
of what they could get back for him.

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Maybe it ends up being something similar
to what they got with lorenz in

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last year. The Lorenzen was an
All star, So that's that's probably you

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know, how you lead is probably
the high end of what you could get

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for Flarity right now, just based
on his performance, the health risk,

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but I certainly think he's a quality
guy that will have a market. There's

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enough teams out there that really need
pitching help right now, sheep looking at

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the Los Angeles Dodgers for one example. I mean, they basically came into

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co America last weekend and had two
openers back to back days. That's not

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what you want to have if you're
a team like the Dodgers, who believe

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that you can win the World Series
this season. So whether Flarity could be

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a fit there, I know certainly
Schooble is somewhat of interest to them.

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And then you look around the rest
of the industry the various teams that could

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use some help. I think the
Guardians could you use some pitching help.

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You could even argue the Twins could
do some pitching help as well. The

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Milwaukee Brewers need an arm. I
mean basically, most teams that are right

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now in the conversation for the playoffs
need a little bit more reliability, and

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I think Jack Flairty has pitched more
than well enough to earn that level of

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status right now at the trade deadline, I think there are some really good

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surprises in this first half. I've
enjoyed the first half of baseball. What

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Kansas City has done fifty six wins
a year ago already with fifty two,

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Cleveland ten games under the break even
last year, and leading the division the

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way they are really impressive. What
has surprised you most good and bad in

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the first half in all of baseball? I think the fact that I would

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add on what you said, I
agree with fully about those teams in the

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Central I'm surprised the Cubs are last. That to me is really mystifying.

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I expected more of them this season. I think, on the positive side,

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and mill Milwaukee has been better than
expected, Boston has been a lot

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better than expected in Duran winning the
MVP last night was pretty cool, a

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great way to cap the first half
of them. Rafael Devers, of course,

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is doing what he normally does.
Ken or Howke was an All Star,

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of course, and that was a
great surve for Boston as well.

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But the way in which Boston has
closed the gap on New York and Baltimore,

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for me, is really surprising.
And I think on the flip side,

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the way that the Toronto Blue Jays
have really struggled this year is I

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think a very standout bit of information
that probably is going to get discussed a

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lot here at the trade deadline.
What the Jays can do in terms of

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selling some players. Is Boba set
available, as lad Guerrero Junior truly available?

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A lot of different conversations there.
I think out West, I would

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have expected the Mariners to have a
larger lead on the Astros than what they

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have right now based on the way
the year started. But Houston has closed

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the gap to where now, Sheff, you might say, Hey, with

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all those years of experience the Houston
Astros, now the just be one game

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back of Seattle. Here comes the
Astros yet again, they simply will not

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go away. I think those are
all the notes there. I think the

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Mets being more competitive, they're in
a playoff spot, probably not going to

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trade Pete Alonzo as a result.
In the Philadelphia Phillies, of all the

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teams I've seen this season, Ship
they've been the best. Chemistry is outstanding,

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They've got multiple All Star starters,
multiple All Star relievers. They are

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the best team in baseball right now, and I think they're going to be

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the favorite to win the World Series
until proven otherwise. JP. I picked

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the Tigers in the offseason. I
picked the Tigers to win the division.

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Now, some of that has to
do with the fact that I didn't think

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Cleveland could bounce back, especially under
a guy who has never managed before,

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in Steven Vote, and you've got
to give him a massive amount of credit.

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And because I didn't think Kansas City
would be as far along in their

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rebuild as they have proven to be. What has Detroit lacked most, what

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has kept them from reaching what some
people feel like is their potential. Why

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have they underperformed In many people's eyes, They've been a couple of bats short.

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And I think shep at the end
of the day. If you would

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have said to me, if we
were talking about this team and before opening

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day, and we would have said, hey, Porkalsen is going to be

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in the minor leagues in the middle
of the season, and Bias's numbers are

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going to be among the worst in
the league, I would say that they're

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in trouble. And that's they've been
in trouble Offensively, that's where they're at.

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I think col Keith's emergence has been
a really important development that's been great

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in Riley Green being healthy for the
most part of the season has been great

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as well, and that's really encouraging. But I think the struggles of Porkalsen

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meadows bias. I mean, those
are spots where shortstop first in center,

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you're expecting to get more out of
than what you've had, and I think

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that's that's why they're I think a
level below the other teams in the central

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right now. They pitched wise,
I think more than adequate, especially when

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when School's on the mound and when
Flarerty's on the mound. Miya has been

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a disappointment, but you're not going
to hit on everybody. I mean that

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they signed Clarity and Miaa and free
agency, one of them has been good,

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one of them hasn't. That's that
tends to be the way things typically

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go in free agency. With starting
pitching, I think in the bullpen,

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you know, it's been an interesting
year. I mean, Lang struggled,

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injured, Miller, Shelby. Miller's
had one of the more unique season just

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from a standpoint of decisions. I
think, off the top of my head,

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Shet, I think he's like he's
either like six and six or five

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00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.800
and say he's like that number of
decisions for a reliever at this stage that

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it's just it's pretty unique. Like
you don't see a guy who's part of

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that many decisions typically at this time
of the year as a reliever, and

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Shelby has been I think he's had
an interesting year. He might be a

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trade candidate too. I think Folly
for me, is a very solid closer.

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It is certainly much more good than
bad friend this season. He might

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be sobody as well. That ends
up being part of the trade conversations too.

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So it's been an interesting year,
I think in a lot of different

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ways. But I go back to
just the offensive inconsistency. They they've been

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for meet one base hit, two
base hits short of winning a whole lot

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more games, and I think if
they had been more consistent at those key

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spots. And again this is not
all Totals is fault, not all Meadows

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is fault, It's not all Hobby's
fault. He just collectively haven't been as

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good of an offensive team as I
thought they were going to be. I

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really like Spencer Torkleson. I still
think he's going to hit. I did

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expect him to have similar numbers this
year than he had last year. Do

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you think he makes it back to
the Tigers at some point? This season

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or do you think a full year
at Triple A might do him best.

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No, it's a great question,
and I think that it's going to be

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a really interesting conversation for the Tigers. Honestly, out of the deadline,

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there might be some team out there
that say that listen with our swing guy,

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with our with our team, we
believe that that you're a makes league

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first baseman. So there are some
teams I'd mentioned Seattle right now. If

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you're the Maritors and if you've had
issues getting productivity at that position this season,

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he's got to be somewhere on your
list. Maybe not top of your

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list, but somewhere on it.
And for all the teams out there,

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the thought that Alonso might be available, or that thought that Christian Walker might

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be available, and now those teams
are playing better and maybe not going to

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sell, the next folk call might
be the Tigers and say, hey,

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listen, what Troubles is doing right
now? How's how are things looking?

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I think that to me, don't
be surprised that the Maritors, if they

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can't get who they want as a
bat, don't be surprised that if they

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turn around and try to get Turtles
with the Tigers. I think that's a

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very logical move. I mean,
he's he's the kind of talent who,

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let's not forget last year, hit
thirty home runs, and the number of

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guys who are young and relatively inexpensive
and hit thirty home runs is not terribly

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high. And so I think that
trying to get trying to maybe get focused

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right now and a bit of a
change of scenery that might help. I

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mean, I cannot imagine that he's
having a good time as a as a

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triple A player right now. He's
a proud he's a proud major league first

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basem who's a number and overall pick
in the draft. He does not want

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to be in the minor leagues right
now, and I think that that part

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of his story. If you can't
find a way, in a clear path

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for him to be in the major
leagues right now, then moving on,

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00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:35.079
honestly might be the best thing for
all parties. Well, you tell a

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hell of the stories, and proud
to call you a friend, JP.

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Thanks for all that you do and
keeping us up to date and spending some

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time with us this morning. Great
insight, great knowledge is always say hello

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00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.400
to your beautiful daughters and your beautiful
wife. Have a great rest of the

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00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:52.440
baseball season, my friend Sheppell,
all the same wishes Junior family as well.

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00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.239
My friend, congratulations on the new
show. You do amazing work as

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always, no matter what the medium
is, You're a superstar. Chep,

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so always enjoy our conversation. Thank
you so much, very kind of you,

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buddy. Okay, have a great
weekend. You can follo him on

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Twitter at John Morosi. Great stuff
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for your text. We appreciate it as

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