Paul Check check and check wall two. This is to two seventeen Recovery podcast
with Corey Winfield. He knows as soon as he gives it to her,
he's gonna give her his heart to her too, and we'll have kids and
getting married. Dad's too far. It is the twenty first of December twenty
twenty three, just before Christmas. Corey went filled two seventeen Recovery podcasts.
Coming with some special guests today and we're doing this episode actually on Discord,
and I'll bring in my first guest, and he's been a guest many times
on the podcast. I'm talking about Mitchell O'Brien. Mitchell, how are you
doing great? How are you? I'm doing wonderful. Man. My next
guest is sitting next to you in the two seventeen Recovery Center. And this
is her first podcast ever on the earth of doing podcasts in the whole world.
Kim Kim. He got talking to the microphone saying, hey, okay,
so Kim, so give her a second. Kim, what's funny now?
Wonder she thought TJ. Miller was funny. He didn't have to say
nothing. She starts laughing, Okay, well, thanks Kim. For joining
us on the podcast. My next guest is Caleb. Caleb, how you
doing, man? Good? How about yourself? I'm doing well and Mitch.
I can see Mitch because we're doing this on discording. We all have
our cameras on, and Mitch is like pausing it and not pausing it,
but he's muting his board so that he can tell Kim to stop laughing and
to get some act right when a podcast, Kim, this is what we
do. Okay, So Caleb, at least she didn't just bust out and
laughter and like, you've got your headphones on, you got your mic going,
you're on discord. You put it all together for the first time.
Was it kind of challenging when I was like, hey man, how about
discord? Are you're like what I've heard of it? I set up on
account a long time ago. I didn't mess around with it. It was
pretty straightforward and easy. Honestly challenging, No, but still trying something new
can be challenging. And when you're trying something new and like a podcast on
top of it, and then you add that into the mix and you're like,
wait what, because oh yeah, I'm a little bit nervous for sure,
but I'm just gonna go with the flow and do my best. That's
all you can do. Man, Mitch, I busted your cherry, your
podcasting cherry a while ago. Were you a little nervous? Were you nervous
when you did that? That was awesome? So not so much nervous?
Good? And now you have your own podcast which I don't know, calebe.
You can probably see the name of this podcast. It's on the screen.
It's redacted, Recover your Mind, And yeah, I can see that.
Mitch talks about all kinds of different things, from the Lord to being
spiritual to aliens a little bit good it well the things. Yeah, and
Mitch's in recovery. He's coming up on three years, which is pretty sweet.
Grats man, keep it, keep it up. Oh yeah, man,
thanks Jakes Kim. How much clean time do you have you have to
talking to the microphone? Mitch isn't going to help you with it? Well,
nine months? Nine months? Okay? Good? Hell? Yeah?
Who would have thought? Right? Who would have right? Exactly? And
Caleb, you're you got some clean time. You're coming up on what you
said four months now you have for yeah, four months and I believe two
days I have to check my I have a clock thing, but it's about
since August twenty fourth, about four months. Yeah, so how you feeling
a lot better? That's for sure. I made a transition from jail.
I read this book that completely changed my perspective on drinking. So yeah,
that helped. There was a book that really helped me. It's Sober.
You want to name the book. Yeah, yeah, it's called it's called
Sober Survival Guide. I don't know if you guys heard of it one or
not. It's really good. Basically it just goes chapter by chapter on all
the problems you might face. And the big the big thing for me is,
you know, there's reasons why. Obviously there's reasons why people do it
or they wouldn't do it right, but talks about like anxiety and all because
I thought it would help. It helps my anxiety and socializing and all these
different things, and it proves exactly why it doesn't help anything. It just
makes it worse. Nothing. It might be temporary, you know, pannit,
but that's it. Yeah. And that's something that I started drinking when
I was on the radio back when I was like seventeen eighteen. You know,
I'd run out to the building that they kept beer. And when I
was doing like a nightly show, I thought it made me funnier. I
thought it made me better, and I was I was a shy person,
so like getting on the microphone knowing there's like thousands of people listening, it
was hard, you know. But if I had a beer or two,
I'm like, yeah, man, that was cool, and I thought it
made me better. But then later on in my career, I realized,
like, no, I'm drunk. I'm horrible. You know a commercial I
had done, but that's the one thing that I put above drinking, which
took me twenty thirty years to figure that out. But I promised myself I
would never drink on the air again, and from that time on, I
did it, you know. But there's relationships, you know, like with
my mom, with you know, my brother's sister, girlfriends. Whatever wasn't
enough. I would tell them I'll never drink again. But it wasn't enough
until I could realize, like, wait a minute, I got to start
a podcast, you know, I have to do this. And you reached
out and you were like, hey, man, I want to start a
podcast, And I figured I'd reach out to you because you got some experience
with it, and I was like, okay, man, what you need
and so here we are. So what kind of podcasts are you thinking about
starting? So I did start it, I just haven't made my first episode
yet. I named it Black Labs of the Family because I have a website
business called The Weedy Solutions and as a kid, that dog really helped me
through a lot. And yeah, black Labs is the family. I want
to do business topics. I want to do business topics my journey and then
sobriety. And it's pretty it's pretty vague and limitless at this point, but
that's like the narrowed version of what I want to do right now. Oh
yeah. And if you listen to people who like I've seen them on YouTube,
They're like, if you're going to start a podcast, man, you
got to hone in on one thing. And I'm like, you don't have
to do shit. You can do whatever you want, you know, like,
if you're trying to make this into a billion dollar business, well good
luck. Not saying you can't do that. But for me, I just
use the podcast man as a way to stay sober, as a way to
just get some stuff off my chest, the way to have fun with friends.
That's what I use it for. You know, I'm not trying to
make millions of dollars. I'm not trying to make one dollar off it.
You know, it's just something that I look at as a hobby. Yeah,
I thought that was really cool that you started this nonprofit two and seven.
I think it's I think you started twenty nineteen. Yeah, what's it
nineteen, Okay, I got that right, Yeah, so it's been around
for yeah, five years. Now, that's some you. I mean,
you've made a huge impact on people, and that's awesome. I mean,
I'm sure you hear that a lot, but that's that's really cool. I
mean, to be that selfish to spend your time to I mean if it's
a nonprofit, I mean, it's a nonprofit, you know, and that's
really selfless of you. And that's I really appreciate that. Yeah, it's
it's been. It's been a journey, man, and it keeps me sober.
And I can look at it now, like I employ you know,
like four or five people something like that, and they're all in recovery,
and it's like it's cool, you know, and these jobs need to keep
growing, and I think, you know, we have a system of what
we're doing. We're actually we're putting people who are recovery coaches to work.
So I think that's that's really good. And yeah, it's about helping people,
and it's about helping myself. You know. They say being in recovery
is a very selfish program, and it is. You know, you have
to look out for number one, you know. And my my thing is
like I have goals, I have dreams, and I want to accomplish them,
you know. And if you talk with Justin, who's been with me
for a while now, but not really because we've only been in this building
since I think we opened the doors in March of last year, but we
didn't really start everything going till April. But he's been kind of helping me.
And like back in the day when I was doing rides and I couldn't
do him, I called Justin and he would kind of do them for me.
But Justin's been there and I've told Justin, I'm gonna do this,
I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this,
and Justin's seeing it happen, you know, and justin seeing the hard work
that I put in and you know, the years I had to go without
getting a paycheck, you know, and helping other people still and just pushing
on. So it's pretty cool that it's kind of coming back around and that
I have guys that, you know, work at the two seventeen Recovery Center
that I are kind of following in that as well, And it's pretty cool.
In Mitch's podcast, I kind of helped him start a little bit.
I don't help him as much as I want to. Hopefully in twenty twenty
four it'll be easier for me to kind of set some things aside and at
least kind of kind of help him out. But I mean, he's kind
of going with it. And how many episodes do you have now? Much
like fifteen, twenty something like that. It's twenty yep number twenty, So
I actually have to post it. So I know that's what you wanted to
do today, and I'm like, hey, before you do that, how
about you help me with my podcast? What would you what would you say
to Caleb about advice starting a podcast? Enump in and learn from your mistakes.
Don't let the failure deter you because especially like even though we had help,
I still you can go back and listen to them. And I've had
to, you know, work with a couple of different people. I didn't
really know what I was doing quite at first, and I learned as I
went, and it was kind of a trial by you know, trial and
error situation. So just kind of use anytime you think you fail at something,
use that as just a reminder that, all right, you learned that
that didn't work, Well, let's try something else next time. That's what
i'd say. Awesome, thanks for that. Yeah, it sounds like resilience
and just get back up fast and fail fast and learn from the failures what
I got from that. Yeah, And there's gonna be people out there that
tell you you can't do it, that you suck, that you're not funny,
that you're not good. That there's gonna be tons of those people,
and you just have to just go yeah, okay, man, you know,
like realize you're not doing it for them, You're doing it for you.
Yeah. I love Alex Heramosi. I don't know if you guys have
heard of him. He says the same lots of people say it, but
I'm obsessed with Alex Hermosi. He's does a lot of different he's all about
business, but there's a lot of things you can apply from that, you
know, to sobriety. And it's really cool how I can take take the
business part of it and the sobriety apart from it. And but yeah,
that's that's really cool too. Are you going to have a co host or
anything? I does? That? Is that the same thing as? Uh?
I don't know what that means exactly. That's just like that's like the
difference between like someone that's an owner and a vice president. The thing is
that what thatens? No, a co host? Is this somebody that would
be on your show with you, like all the time, like on your
podcast with you, oh every time? Okay, yeah, all right.
I shouldn't know this by now because I listen to podcasts, but most of
them are just one person. I think all of them are actually one person.
Not but yeah, no, probably not, but maybe I'm open to
it. That'd be maybe that would make it better. Probably too much.
You're probably better than that one, Mitchell tell you. Mitchell tell you that
when he was just like, well, co hosts are tough because especially because
it's your podcast. You have your vision of it, this is what you
want. You bring a co host in. You guys can have a couple
of great episodes and everything is going cool and you're having fun. And then
I'll send your co hosts Oh oh, he's got spaghetti dinner he has to
go to and you're like, but dude, we record every Friday at six
o'clock. You're supposed to be here. Oh, hold on, you know,
my dog's sick or my mom. And then you're like, fuck man,
dude, and you're doing it all by yourself. And then he shows
up for the good time, and then he he's not helping you edit,
he's not you know, paying for the website, he's not doing anything,
and you're just like this, dude's hold me up, and you'll start having
resentments. So like for me, I was quick to kick people off.
I didn't really care because it was my thing, and if people were relapsed,
I'm like, when I started it, I was in a silver living
home and I like the dudes that were on it with me, you know,
but you start relapsing, then you got to go, you know,
and it just kind of changes over time, and then you just get married
and make your wife do it with you is what I do now, and
she does it every like once a week, but we don't do it as
much as we used to. But now it's like I have employees, so
if I'm paying them, they are like, okay, I'll do a podcast
with you, you know, which is convenient. But as far as like
the co host part of it, though, it can be tricky. Mitch
has already went through one two co hosts something like that, where it's just
it's nothing against the person, it's just things don't work out. And you
want to talk about horses and they want to talk about building barns, and
you're like, well, can we intersect them too? And then you try
and then it doesn't even work and you're just like what am I doing?
Oh? Man? I always hit a good point because like I have always
been super hard headed, and I don't think it could call us would be
a good idea now that I'm thinking about it. But what was the other
point, Oh, compromise intersect thing. Yeah, compromise. I last month
I've actually intentionally been practicing compromise with people because yeah, I mean it's you
can't do everything by yourself, and yeah, that's I think that's why it's
important for me. Anyways, you can't you can't do everything by yourself and
people. You need people, especially if you're gonna build something big, you
know you need people. Yeah, just make sure they know the role and
you kind of define it for them, you know, as part of like
this is this is my podcast, this is our topics. If you want
to be a part of it, this is what you do, because yeah,
everybody does need help with it, you know, absolutely, But just
as long as you have that in your mind of where you're going and what
it is, and you're laying down the law like this is my stuff.
And then you get a partner that'll come in and be like, oh well,
I'll buy all this cool stuff, and so then you're feeling like,
oh shit, he kind of owns the podcast, you know, like it's
my podcast, but he bought the equipment, and then that kind of leaves
you feeling funny too. But you just gotta do what you gotta do,
man. But doing it yourself can be tough. Talking to yourself for half
an hour is pretty much what it's like. It's right, Yeah, I'm
pretty good at that, so I can do that. I'll tell you a
piece of advice they gave to me in radio when I first started. They
were like, take a picture of somebody and put it up Like back in
the day, we had like this broadcast board that we had, you know,
and they said, put a picture up on the board of somebody,
not your mom, not your dad, you know, cause you're going to
talk different to them. So I would take different pictures of people and I
would put it up there, and like when I would talk, I would
I would act like I was talking to that person. And it really kind
of helped you with the whole theater of the mind and how you talk when
you talk to people on a podcast or on radio. You know, you
don't want to say, hey, everybody, what's going on? You know,
you guys are awesome. I'm mad, you know, and you'll hear
it sometimes, but that's just not a way that you can connect with one
person one on one. Like if you were to say, hey, thank
you for listening. I appreciate you. You know, without you listening today,
I would be nothing. You're building that connection with that person, with
that one person, because that's how we listen. We don't listen in groups
all together. We watch TV sometimes together. We go to concerts together.
If you had a concert and a guy comes out and he's like, hey,
are you mfirst, you know, you're like, yeah, that's different.
When someone's listened to a podcast, you listen through your ears and there's
nobody in your ears with you. Well, at least there shouldn't be,
Caleb, if there is, and we can talk about that, there's a
place we can ma that. I apologize. If you guys can hear a
dog, I have to put him in the kennel because I just have to.
And now he's freaking out, So I'm gonna mute when I'm not talking.
Okay. That's one of the the kind of mistakes that I was talking
about though, was that's a that's a thing that I had overcome. Was
I used to get on and just think that I was talking to my whole
listener base. So I would be like, hey, everybody, welcome back,
or hey everybody, good afternoon, and then I, you know,
I had to realize that not everybody is listening to it right when I posted,
or they're in a different part of the world so it might not be
afternoon there. So I've you know, taken a couple of tips from Corey
and then a couple other podcasts that I've listened to, and people just go,
welcome back to redacted, you know, and and then then move on
from there. You know. That's that's a that's a good one. I
like that and doing it that way more and and like what Corey just said
to to really connect with the singular person, because I know for a fact
that there's not a whole rooms full of people listening to my podcast out there
right now. So yeah, yeah, maybe maybe one day, one day.
Yeah, but it is fun. Go ahead, Sorry, I was
just gonna say, but it is fun though, especially when you get that
co host that you really have a good synergy with or has a uh,
you know, a good kind of maybe an opposite view of the topics that
you like to have. Like the co host that I have now is really
interested in the same things that I do, but he's better at reading and
retaining the information, and I'm better at finding different topics, and so I
find different topics and stuff and then he looks into it and remembers it and
then you know, crack a joke with him, or you know, it's
the synergy really matters too. It's a big part of it. I forgot
my thought. I don't remember add okay, uh, well, we were
talking about the basics, the going in and by yourself. I don't know.
I forget things too, Kim, do you remember what we're talking about?
Been a co a co host, having a host host is yeah,
host. When you be talking on your podcast and you said that Hayl was
saying that he didn't he didn't be rather do a bet so he liked talking
to his solf a lot, It's okay, Caleb, Yeah, no,
the whole Uh Like when you're like both me and what was your name?
The you started the redacted recover your mind? What was your name? Mitch?
Oh, Mitch? Okay, I'm in the same boat as you.
It's like it's like you're putting in this work to make something, but you're
not seeing any results. So it's the hardest part is pushing through not same
results or maybe little results and still going. And but it's not necessarily even
about the results. It's about also, you know, doing it for self
yourself of course, because I'm sure it's all takes time, right, Yeah,
it takes time, and it takes feeling it out, because sometimes you
got to realize that maybe you're not putting a catchy enough title on it.
Maybe you're not maybe you're not putting enough energy in the words that you say,
and uh, you know, come on and be happy and sound like
you're happy to be there, like welcome back, and and don't just get
down and be like, well, welcome back, we're gonna we're gonna talk
about this today. And you know, sometimes maybe you don't feel like you're
in the mood to podcasts, but that's your podcast time. Like you gotta
amp yourself up a little bit or throw some keywords on there. Like you're
working with algorithms and stuff on the internet, So if you want to get
yourself noticed, you got to think about what you're naming the what your title
is, what your name is, what's your what your keywords are that you
put in it or the excerpt that you put on it, and stuff like
that. So it's it's more searchable and stuff like that. So there's stuff,
and you're not gonna do it right every time. You're just you're just
not. And then you can notice that I did a podcast about something I
thought was really really interesting and I got almost no views on it, And
then I did a podcast and I made a funny thing because we just mentioned
Calmutilations for a moment when it came to aliens and that one, and all
of a sudden just grabbed a whole bunch of views, Like people were like,
that's what they were looking at that week. So, you know,
kind of just feeling it out and going through stuff like that. It reminds
me of that did you did you hear about that Calm Mutilations? Was it
at Skinwalker Ranch? That show? Yep, I've heard that one. Yeah,
that was pretty wild. I've seen easing amount of that. Pretty cool
show. I don't know, random thought of that. Yeah, that's the
kind of stuff that we talk about though, you know, that's the kind
of the alien side of it and stuff like that. But we go into
angels and God and the creation of the world and stuff like that, and
it's actually kind of easy to it could be easy to make that kind of
boring. You know. We do it from the perspective of two guys that
kind of have biblical outlooks but aren't churchgoers, and in we'rec how so we
try to add flavors of that and then keep that in mind when we're doing
the the titles and the excerpts and the you know, the blurbs for it
and stuff like that. And then title art is another one to think about.
You know. I was trying to find like clip art for it at
first, or making my own art through like Canada or photo shop, but
then we just realized that there are AI generated images out there that can just
do some amazing things. It's just it's just awesome. Another thing too,
is people start emailing you all this stuff like, oh, by us,
and let us do all your editing and let us do all your stuff for
you, And it can get very expensive if you want to do all that
kind of stuff and you can learn it all pretty much. I had Mitch
go the expensive route and get Adobe Audition. But if you get Adobe and
you get like the Creative Cloud, it's like, what it's like fifty bucks
a month for you, Yeah, they're right round there. Yeah, for
like a college student. They will discount it for like a year if it's
like twenty five bucks a month, or for nonprofits. So that's how I
have mine discounted. And then every year they try to end it and I
reach out to them and go I'm still a nonprofit and they go, okay.
So, but there's different things you can do. There's garage band,
there's Odyssey is another one that you can get for free and then just kind
of learning how to edit it a little bit. It takes time, but
there's YouTube is genius, and there's tutorials on all the sites out there as
well. Do you either of you know, if or any three of you
know if there's Windows eleven, is the Spotify the Spotify podcasters on available on
Windows eleven app store or is that so? I might? I can just
look it up, but I was just curious if you knew off the top,
I'm assuming it would be. Is that the platform you're going to use
to publish your podcast? Yeah? Yeah, I started the account on my
phone, but I want to use this microphone. It's probably way I know,
it's got to be way better. It's definitely way more expensive than whatever
they paid to put in this, for sure, I'm sure, and sometimes
I might. The expensive microphones aren't always the better ones. Yeah, I'll
be careful of that too. If you use the USB mic, you know
you can. You can spend a lot of money and you kind of don't
feel like it, but you're spending like sixty bucks here, seventy bucks there,
and it's like at the end of it, you're like, damn,
I just wish I would about the three hundred dollars microphone, you know,
or to like get a board. You know Mitch when out he got a
board. The Roadcaster you can get it and you can find an eBay two
fifty three hundred bucks if you're lucky, and it'll be used. But they're
pretty good, brand new ones. They're about five hundred. And then you
can get the brand new road Caster Pro two. It's about seven hundred,
and it can get it. It can get expensive. Okay, I don't
know how good this microphone sounds on your end, but it's a Scarlets studio
microphone. It came with a kit. It's like a I can't remember what
the word is for it, but there's a thing where you can control the
output, the volume, the volume of the headphones, a couple other buttons,
and then it's got like a this is how it connects to the thing
that it's like a midway between the computer thing. I don't know what they're
called. Yeah, it was like two fifty for the whole kit for the
microphone, the headphones, and then that thing whatever it's called. I don't
know what it's called. So it looks like that's an excel R mic and
that would probably be going to some kind of power source or an AMP.
That's probably what you get that plugged into. There's different companies that make really
good ones. Yeah, that amplifies it so that you can actually send it
back to the computer. And that's you know, for starting out. Man,
you spent a lot more than I did. I spent thirty bucks on
a microphone. Well you thirty. I mean, it doesn't matter. You
can record, right, That's the thing, you know, It's the message
more than anything. And like Mitch said, the more you get dialed in,
the more you start to know things, and the more you get familiar
with it, you'll realize that's not how I want to sound. And then
you listen to a different podcast and you'll kind of wonder what kind of mics
are they using, you know, and then reach out to them, you
know, send them an email like, hey, man, love the show,
but you know, I have a podcast on my own, but I
love this the sound that you have, you know, what kind of equipment
do you use? And then most of them, I would assume, will
write you back. You know, if you reached out to Joe Rogan,
I doubt he's going to write you back. But you know there's other people
that if you listen to them and you're like I like that sound, you
know, like the Fantasy Footballers as a podcast that I really like, and
they'll write you back. You know, if you're like, hey, what
kind of equipment you guys use? I think they might even post it on
their on their site because people ask them so many times, they just figured
hey, we'll just put it out there and let everybody know what we're using.
Or they're getting paid to use it. So I don't know, but
organ's pretty awesome. I love you. Yeah. You know a Twitch streamer
that would he had a set up section in his bio because people ask him
so much and maybe he'd just be like pick down there, and that company
probably paid him to do it too, So that's pretty sweet. I wouldn't
do it enough somebody was paying me. Fabulous just saying but I'm not really
interested in, like I said, making money off this. But if somebody
was like, hey, we're gonna give you like eight free microphones and all
this cool setup. I would do that for that. Yeah, all like
one of those things for them to gain reputation, but give you free product
to either test and get their word out type of thing, like oh I
use their microphones and it's really good and yeah. Like endorsements, that's yeah,
And a lot of times, like I said, they will give you
products and stuff to do that. Like one time I was on the radio
and they gave me Sinus Busters and in order to endorse it, you have
to use it. Like there's some law that they made, the FCC made
because too many people are just getting on the air just going yeah, I
use this and they don't really use it. So like, nope, you
have to use whatever you're you're getting paid to say. You know. Otherwise
is you can do a live read where you talk about how great so and
so says it is. But for you to say, oh, man,
I use this product and it's great, you have to use it. And
so I was like whatever. Man, it was like one hundred bucks a
week. They're paying me too, So I was like, shit, I'll
use it. Man. That stuff burned like hell, I don't think you
can find it anymore on the shelves. I mean, but it it snus
is up some fears. Man. That's not like I was on there just
straight doing cocaine all night. I was like, good lord, and I
tried to do it one time on my commercial read. I was like,
here, I'll do it right now. I was like, I did it
and I just started coughing and it just burned so bad. I was like,
what the hell? And they were like and their copy points is like,
if it's burning, it means it's working. And I'm like, it's
working, it's working. It was it was hell man. So yeah,
no sypl flusters on this podcast. It just sounded like all those everybody's got
Man Escaped and Blue Shoe right now. Yeah, it's just like, oh,
okay, well that's TM. I need to know you guys. We
should start making fake ones kind of like we're gonna make We're gonna make commercials
for our coloones. We're gonna come out with fake colones. We're gonna have
like professional looking commercials with them. I still need a name for mine.
Mitch's is gonna be Bear Bear, Justin's gonna be fabulous Mitch or not Mitch.
But Adams is going to be woods and he's gonna smell like Mildew I
wear I wear two one seven, and I smell like Keavin seven. It's
floating ACD on a cloud. Oh it's my spirit angel. I don't think
about catchphrase bear, does it? You gotta think about that one a little
bit. Wow. I think Corey got it though. I wear bear because
the girl's claw. Yeah, I don't know. There's a deeper story behind
the bear thing. Oh yeah, what's the story? Can I hear it?
What's we share it on? Of course? What what does a bear?
What do they say? What does a bear do? What does the
bear do in the woods? Uhh yeah, no, he got it.
I got it. Does the saying is do does does a bear ship in
the woods or something like that? Oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah
yeah. The original one I heard was the tree one where if a tree
falls in the woods, doesn't make a sound or something like that. Yeah.
Yeah, we do something with that for for Adams. But mine ship
related so and that's why you want to have your cologne. Didn't you listen
to that podcast, Kim? Nope, she didn't. She didn't listen to
the episode. No, we can't go back into it, can't we Now,
we'll leave it. We'll leave it alone. We'll leave it for the
imagination. It was in like I don't remember a couple of couple episodes ago
of the podcast. I don't even remember the title of it, but it
was towards the end of it. It might have been the one with Sue.
Was that the one with Susan on I was that was the last one
I was in. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I
don't know, like a week or two ago, like fun Friday or something
or Fabulous Friday or something. I don't remember what it was called. But
yeah, listen, we go into detail because I saw this this Colone commercial
with this dude that was in you ever see the movie Dune. He's in
Willie Walker to this actor, and my wife's like, like, was he
supposed to be something special? You know? She's like, I'll clown on
them. And he's like just got the serious look on his face when his
little jean jacket and again jean jacket it was a leathern jacket and he just
looks at the camera and he's just like bloo or whatever. And I'm just
like what the like, really, that's supposed to get me to buy this,
which then I did because I really do like the smell of it because
it's kind of funny. So I do own that cal now. But I
just thought that would be so funny, and I started like running it through
my head, like if we started making fake ones, you know, and
just how fun that would be. And that's the thing that we do in
recovery is we have fun. We like to laugh, and it's just something
that we do, you know. And it's like, if we have time
to put together a silly video, we will. I've been down for that
a lot. That's a good thing. Yeah, that'd be cool down for
sure. Yeah. I don't have to get you on board with that.
Well, Caleb, is there any more questions? I kind of popped your
cherry here. You're podcasting now officially, so relations thank you appreciate it.
I'm excited for it, and I'm impressed with myself. I mean, I
interrupted a few times. I try not to, honestly, but other than
that, I think I'm doing pretty decent on my first one. But yeah,
questions questions. I honestly thought me and you, Corey were gonna sit
down before and talk a little bit before. I'm not really prepared for this
at all, but if i can, let me see if I can think
of anything off the top of my head. I love face. When you
said that, he's like, oh no, Corey just throws you in the
seat and you just run with it. I wanted to say. I was
like, if you think that he treated you differently than anybody else, No,
that's how he teaches people. He just you writing right here, learn
how to swim. Here's the deep end of the let's go exactly. I
have to get all up in it, and I'm always falling. I always
always fall for it. Always. That's what you got you. No,
oh no, what's going on? I got you two times because you can't
drive. But I just I just thought it would be cool if you got
online for my first one. I don't know what we would talk about,
really, we'd have to plan it or just jump on and talk. I
don't really care. I just want to get it started, you know,
just do the first move. Come. Yeah, let me know, man,
And I know you're just getting over COVID. There was a COVID scared
around here, and then one of our guys I had to drive somebody today
and turns out they might have COVID. So we're just trying to get through
the holidays man without aimbody catching COVID. So we'll have to get you up
to the office. Man. You can check it out and check out the
studio I have up here, and yeah, and talk to me. See
his setup, and you know, I'm willing to help people out, man,
And if it's something that'll keep you sober, then hell yeah, man,
like do it and don't care about what people say. You're gonna get
better. That's how we learn, is by doing things. So you're not
gonna come out the gate just on fire. Being Joe Rogan. It's not
how it works, you know. But every day you'll get better. And
you said something earlier about you know how it's just it's a slow process,
you know, But that's how it goes. You know. It's kind of
like your recovery, you know, like you want to have ten years clean
right now, that's not going to happen. You know. It's day by
day and that little stuff that you do every day, even though it doesn't
feel like you're doing a whole lot. You look back on it in two
weeks three weeks, two months. You look back on it and go,
damn, I've come a long way, you know, And you look back,
like four months ago, I didn't even have a microphone, and look,
look now I got a website. I got this, I got so
just keep going with it and you'll see the success of it. It's just
like recovery, man, you know, it's you're not going to have ten
years today. Yeah, lost my thought again. I had a good one,
but well, no, man, I was gonna leave you with one
more step of advice was go listen to some podcasts. Listen to some different
ones, Listen to some that have been around for a little bit, and
you'll start to watch some video podcasts. YouTube's kind of good for that.
They have some video ones on there that you can watch. You can kind
of see they're set up a little bit. Other ones you can listen,
listen to how they do intros, outros, transitions, if you want to
do stuff like that, and then just it kind of gives you an idea
of how you want to edit or add stuff. And you know, I
don't think that you're gonna be the same because my whole thing was I listened
to a podcast I loved it. I listened to episode one hundred and eighty
and then went, ah, man, mind doesn't sound like that on episode
three, and it discouraged me. So they've been doing it for one hundred
and eighty episodes. And then I find out later that these guys both had
podcasts before this one, so they came into it knowing what they were doing
and then did one hundred and eighty episodes. So it's like, that's why.
But it does give you a good idea on things. You can try
things, you know, listen to how they open the podcast, how they
talk to people, how they close it, and try to get a good
variety so you can see what other people are doing and stuff like that.
That's I think that would do good. They'll do you good. Thank you
for that. I yeah, I definitely want to throw my personal twist on
it. For sure. I want to be real, you know, I
want to be I want to be raw, but I want to be myself
and this and that. But yeah, I haven't even really started on ideas
other than I came up with the name, and I know I want to
put my my goal is to I will put Actually I'll just say this,
I will put out my first podcast within a month. Even if it sucks,
that's fine. It will suck. Actually I already know. Well if
you're saying it, if you're saying it, but yeah, just make it
as good as you can and just be you and be real. But start
by making a Facebook page for it. You know, post on your Facebook
page, get your friends to like it, and post on there episode one
is coming, and then put a date on there. That'd be my advice
because that way, whatever date, if you put January fifth, four pm,
you got a deadline. Otherwise you're going to keep pushing it back,
pushing it back. Well, I didn't have this, and didn't have at
least for me. It's how it was like. I didn't have a website,
I didn't have this, I didn't have. All these excuses came.
And then a dude I picked up from treatment looked at me and told me
he was disappointed at me or with me because I didn't start the podcast yet.
And I was like, dude, I just got out like a week
or two ago. And he's like, yeah, but you were talking about
you were going to start a podcast, and I just thought i'd hear it.
And he was like I'm disappointed. When he said that to me,
I was like, all right, then, f itt I'll put that on
Facebook and I'll put a date in the time and we're going to do it
by then, you know, and couldn't turn back then. So yeah,
and just try not to suck. That's all you can do. That's how
you can do. That's perfect good. You would do good. Thanks you
already you do it. Thank you. Yeah, and you got some fans
up here to seventeen Recovery that you know will help you out. And we'd
like to see people do good. And like I said, anything that,
I'll keep you sober, dude, we're all about it. So oh,
that's what my thought was. Distraction. That's always been my biggest coping mechanism
is distraction. So if I keep myself busy, I feel like I have
a way better chance. That's my main one. That in music, really
and your mind's moving forward. You know, you're not sitting there thinking about,
oh, I used to do this and to do that. You're thinking
about, well, I'm going to do this, I'm gonna build this,
I'm gonna make this, and you're you're just moving your mind forward. So
it's just naturally you move forward, and yeah, there's gonna be some stumbles
along the way, but like I said, pick yourself up in mitchad you
know, like listen to his podcast of him begetting and they're way different than
they are now. And in a year from now, miss going to look
back at the one he's doing now and going, oh, man, I
should have done this, done that, But he would have learned by then
and he's gonna probably say, I don't do that anymore. I don't structure
it like this, I don't talk like that, I don't say this,
And it's just a learning process. But it's fun too, man, And
you got to remember to have fun. You're in recovery. That's awesome,
you know, keep that going and you just tie the two together, man,
and it can be blissful for sure. So we wish you the best.
Yeah, enjoy the adversity. Thank you. I wish you guys the
best too, thanks man. He up the good work. I'll keep up
the good work. And yeah, yeah, we'll meet up soon for sure.
You have to come up here, like I said, check out our
stuff and hang out and have some coffee and hit the meeting up here.
Help. Yeah, sounds good. Thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery
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