WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:06.120
Paul Check check and check wall two. This is to two seventeen Recovery podcast

2
00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:09.960
with Corey Winfield. He knows as
soon as he gives it to her,

3
00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:14.320
he's gonna give her his heart to
her too, and we'll have kids and

4
00:00:14.359 --> 00:00:23.440
getting married. Dad's too far.
It is the twenty first of December twenty

5
00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:29.320
twenty three, just before Christmas.
Corey went filled two seventeen Recovery podcasts.

6
00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:35.320
Coming with some special guests today and
we're doing this episode actually on Discord,

7
00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:39.719
and I'll bring in my first guest, and he's been a guest many times

8
00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:42.960
on the podcast. I'm talking about
Mitchell O'Brien. Mitchell, how are you

9
00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:47.600
doing great? How are you?
I'm doing wonderful. Man. My next

10
00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:52.560
guest is sitting next to you in
the two seventeen Recovery Center. And this

11
00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:57.640
is her first podcast ever on the
earth of doing podcasts in the whole world.

12
00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:06.719
Kim Kim. He got talking to
the microphone saying, hey, okay,

13
00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:12.000
so Kim, so give her a
second. Kim, what's funny now?

14
00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:15.599
Wonder she thought TJ. Miller was
funny. He didn't have to say

15
00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:19.719
nothing. She starts laughing, Okay, well, thanks Kim. For joining

16
00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:25.079
us on the podcast. My next
guest is Caleb. Caleb, how you

17
00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:27.959
doing, man? Good? How
about yourself? I'm doing well and Mitch.

18
00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:30.400
I can see Mitch because we're doing
this on discording. We all have

19
00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:34.680
our cameras on, and Mitch is
like pausing it and not pausing it,

20
00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:37.599
but he's muting his board so that
he can tell Kim to stop laughing and

21
00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:42.760
to get some act right when a
podcast, Kim, this is what we

22
00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:46.879
do. Okay, So Caleb,
at least she didn't just bust out and

23
00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.120
laughter and like, you've got your
headphones on, you got your mic going,

24
00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:52.640
you're on discord. You put it
all together for the first time.

25
00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:55.560
Was it kind of challenging when I
was like, hey man, how about

26
00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:57.480
discord? Are you're like what I've
heard of it? I set up on

27
00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:00.959
account a long time ago. I
didn't mess around with it. It was

28
00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:06.319
pretty straightforward and easy. Honestly challenging, No, but still trying something new

29
00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:08.400
can be challenging. And when you're
trying something new and like a podcast on

30
00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:12.039
top of it, and then you
add that into the mix and you're like,

31
00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:15.319
wait what, because oh yeah,
I'm a little bit nervous for sure,

32
00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:17.840
but I'm just gonna go with the
flow and do my best. That's

33
00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:22.800
all you can do. Man,
Mitch, I busted your cherry, your

34
00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:29.199
podcasting cherry a while ago. Were
you a little nervous? Were you nervous

35
00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:34.280
when you did that? That was
awesome? So not so much nervous?

36
00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:38.560
Good? And now you have your
own podcast which I don't know, calebe.

37
00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:42.719
You can probably see the name of
this podcast. It's on the screen.

38
00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:46.680
It's redacted, Recover your Mind,
And yeah, I can see that.

39
00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:53.280
Mitch talks about all kinds of different
things, from the Lord to being

40
00:02:53.319 --> 00:03:00.479
spiritual to aliens a little bit good
it well the things. Yeah, and

41
00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:04.840
Mitch's in recovery. He's coming up
on three years, which is pretty sweet.

42
00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:07.879
Grats man, keep it, keep
it up. Oh yeah, man,

43
00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:13.439
thanks Jakes Kim. How much clean
time do you have you have to

44
00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:15.560
talking to the microphone? Mitch isn't
going to help you with it? Well,

45
00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:20.759
nine months? Nine months? Okay? Good? Hell? Yeah?

46
00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:23.639
Who would have thought? Right?
Who would have right? Exactly? And

47
00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:27.240
Caleb, you're you got some clean
time. You're coming up on what you

48
00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:30.840
said four months now you have for
yeah, four months and I believe two

49
00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:34.360
days I have to check my I
have a clock thing, but it's about

50
00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:37.800
since August twenty fourth, about four
months. Yeah, so how you feeling

51
00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:43.879
a lot better? That's for sure. I made a transition from jail.

52
00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:47.479
I read this book that completely changed
my perspective on drinking. So yeah,

53
00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:51.479
that helped. There was a book
that really helped me. It's Sober.

54
00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:57.080
You want to name the book.
Yeah, yeah, it's called it's called

55
00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:00.479
Sober Survival Guide. I don't know
if you guys heard of it one or

56
00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:03.840
not. It's really good. Basically
it just goes chapter by chapter on all

57
00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:08.719
the problems you might face. And
the big the big thing for me is,

58
00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:11.680
you know, there's reasons why.
Obviously there's reasons why people do it

59
00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:15.639
or they wouldn't do it right,
but talks about like anxiety and all because

60
00:04:15.720 --> 00:04:20.519
I thought it would help. It
helps my anxiety and socializing and all these

61
00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:25.079
different things, and it proves exactly
why it doesn't help anything. It just

62
00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:28.120
makes it worse. Nothing. It
might be temporary, you know, pannit,

63
00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:32.560
but that's it. Yeah. And
that's something that I started drinking when

64
00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:36.000
I was on the radio back when
I was like seventeen eighteen. You know,

65
00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:39.639
I'd run out to the building that
they kept beer. And when I

66
00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.560
was doing like a nightly show,
I thought it made me funnier. I

67
00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:45.480
thought it made me better, and
I was I was a shy person,

68
00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:48.720
so like getting on the microphone knowing
there's like thousands of people listening, it

69
00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:50.199
was hard, you know. But
if I had a beer or two,

70
00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:53.680
I'm like, yeah, man,
that was cool, and I thought it

71
00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:56.240
made me better. But then later
on in my career, I realized,

72
00:04:56.279 --> 00:05:00.600
like, no, I'm drunk.
I'm horrible. You know a commercial I

73
00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:02.800
had done, but that's the one
thing that I put above drinking, which

74
00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:09.040
took me twenty thirty years to figure
that out. But I promised myself I

75
00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:11.680
would never drink on the air again, and from that time on, I

76
00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:15.319
did it, you know. But
there's relationships, you know, like with

77
00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:19.720
my mom, with you know,
my brother's sister, girlfriends. Whatever wasn't

78
00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:23.240
enough. I would tell them I'll
never drink again. But it wasn't enough

79
00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:25.600
until I could realize, like,
wait a minute, I got to start

80
00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:28.879
a podcast, you know, I
have to do this. And you reached

81
00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:30.759
out and you were like, hey, man, I want to start a

82
00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:32.439
podcast, And I figured I'd reach
out to you because you got some experience

83
00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:34.199
with it, and I was like, okay, man, what you need

84
00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:38.519
and so here we are. So
what kind of podcasts are you thinking about

85
00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:42.839
starting? So I did start it, I just haven't made my first episode

86
00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:46.000
yet. I named it Black Labs
of the Family because I have a website

87
00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:51.319
business called The Weedy Solutions and as
a kid, that dog really helped me

88
00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:56.839
through a lot. And yeah,
black Labs is the family. I want

89
00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:01.959
to do business topics. I want
to do business topics my journey and then

90
00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:10.040
sobriety. And it's pretty it's pretty
vague and limitless at this point, but

91
00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:13.920
that's like the narrowed version of what
I want to do right now. Oh

92
00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:18.079
yeah. And if you listen to
people who like I've seen them on YouTube,

93
00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:19.759
They're like, if you're going to
start a podcast, man, you

94
00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:24.439
got to hone in on one thing. And I'm like, you don't have

95
00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:27.160
to do shit. You can do
whatever you want, you know, like,

96
00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.360
if you're trying to make this into
a billion dollar business, well good

97
00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:32.560
luck. Not saying you can't do
that. But for me, I just

98
00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:35.439
use the podcast man as a way
to stay sober, as a way to

99
00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:39.040
just get some stuff off my chest, the way to have fun with friends.

100
00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:41.240
That's what I use it for.
You know, I'm not trying to

101
00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:43.519
make millions of dollars. I'm not
trying to make one dollar off it.

102
00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:48.160
You know, it's just something that
I look at as a hobby. Yeah,

103
00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:51.560
I thought that was really cool that
you started this nonprofit two and seven.

104
00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:58.240
I think it's I think you started
twenty nineteen. Yeah, what's it

105
00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:00.319
nineteen, Okay, I got that
right, Yeah, so it's been around

106
00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:02.680
for yeah, five years. Now, that's some you. I mean,

107
00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:04.920
you've made a huge impact on people, and that's awesome. I mean,

108
00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:08.480
I'm sure you hear that a lot, but that's that's really cool. I

109
00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:13.240
mean, to be that selfish to
spend your time to I mean if it's

110
00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:15.839
a nonprofit, I mean, it's
a nonprofit, you know, and that's

111
00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:19.199
really selfless of you. And that's
I really appreciate that. Yeah, it's

112
00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:23.079
it's been. It's been a journey, man, and it keeps me sober.

113
00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:26.480
And I can look at it now, like I employ you know,

114
00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:29.560
like four or five people something like
that, and they're all in recovery,

115
00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:33.279
and it's like it's cool, you
know, and these jobs need to keep

116
00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:35.839
growing, and I think, you
know, we have a system of what

117
00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:40.759
we're doing. We're actually we're putting
people who are recovery coaches to work.

118
00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:44.360
So I think that's that's really good. And yeah, it's about helping people,

119
00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:46.079
and it's about helping myself. You
know. They say being in recovery

120
00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:49.000
is a very selfish program, and
it is. You know, you have

121
00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:51.519
to look out for number one,
you know. And my my thing is

122
00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:54.920
like I have goals, I have
dreams, and I want to accomplish them,

123
00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:58.560
you know. And if you talk
with Justin, who's been with me

124
00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.480
for a while now, but not
really because we've only been in this building

125
00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.240
since I think we opened the doors
in March of last year, but we

126
00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:09.000
didn't really start everything going till April. But he's been kind of helping me.

127
00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:13.079
And like back in the day when
I was doing rides and I couldn't

128
00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:15.399
do him, I called Justin and
he would kind of do them for me.

129
00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.199
But Justin's been there and I've told
Justin, I'm gonna do this,

130
00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:20.079
I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna
do this, I'm gonna do this,

131
00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:24.199
and Justin's seeing it happen, you
know, and justin seeing the hard work

132
00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:26.839
that I put in and you know, the years I had to go without

133
00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:31.240
getting a paycheck, you know,
and helping other people still and just pushing

134
00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:33.559
on. So it's pretty cool that
it's kind of coming back around and that

135
00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:37.480
I have guys that, you know, work at the two seventeen Recovery Center

136
00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.840
that I are kind of following in
that as well, And it's pretty cool.

137
00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.679
In Mitch's podcast, I kind of
helped him start a little bit.

138
00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:48.759
I don't help him as much as
I want to. Hopefully in twenty twenty

139
00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.600
four it'll be easier for me to
kind of set some things aside and at

140
00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:56.320
least kind of kind of help him
out. But I mean, he's kind

141
00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:58.480
of going with it. And how
many episodes do you have now? Much

142
00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:03.799
like fifteen, twenty something like that. It's twenty yep number twenty, So

143
00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:07.879
I actually have to post it.
So I know that's what you wanted to

144
00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:09.559
do today, and I'm like,
hey, before you do that, how

145
00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:15.320
about you help me with my podcast? What would you what would you say

146
00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:22.639
to Caleb about advice starting a podcast? Enump in and learn from your mistakes.

147
00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:28.639
Don't let the failure deter you because
especially like even though we had help,

148
00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.039
I still you can go back and
listen to them. And I've had

149
00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:39.519
to, you know, work with
a couple of different people. I didn't

150
00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:41.720
really know what I was doing quite
at first, and I learned as I

151
00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:45.360
went, and it was kind of
a trial by you know, trial and

152
00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:50.000
error situation. So just kind of
use anytime you think you fail at something,

153
00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:54.279
use that as just a reminder that, all right, you learned that

154
00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:56.919
that didn't work, Well, let's
try something else next time. That's what

155
00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:01.279
i'd say. Awesome, thanks for
that. Yeah, it sounds like resilience

156
00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:05.279
and just get back up fast and
fail fast and learn from the failures what

157
00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:09.159
I got from that. Yeah,
And there's gonna be people out there that

158
00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:13.080
tell you you can't do it,
that you suck, that you're not funny,

159
00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:15.679
that you're not good. That there's
gonna be tons of those people,

160
00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:18.159
and you just have to just go
yeah, okay, man, you know,

161
00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:20.759
like realize you're not doing it for
them, You're doing it for you.

162
00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:26.440
Yeah. I love Alex Heramosi.
I don't know if you guys have

163
00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:28.720
heard of him. He says the
same lots of people say it, but

164
00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:33.440
I'm obsessed with Alex Hermosi. He's
does a lot of different he's all about

165
00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:35.679
business, but there's a lot of
things you can apply from that, you

166
00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:41.120
know, to sobriety. And it's
really cool how I can take take the

167
00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:43.559
business part of it and the sobriety
apart from it. And but yeah,

168
00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.799
that's that's really cool too. Are
you going to have a co host or

169
00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:52.600
anything? I does? That?
Is that the same thing as? Uh?

170
00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:56.960
I don't know what that means exactly. That's just like that's like the

171
00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:00.519
difference between like someone that's an owner
and a vice president. The thing is

172
00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:03.360
that what thatens? No, a
co host? Is this somebody that would

173
00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:05.840
be on your show with you,
like all the time, like on your

174
00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:09.080
podcast with you, oh every time? Okay, yeah, all right.

175
00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:11.919
I shouldn't know this by now because
I listen to podcasts, but most of

176
00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:16.480
them are just one person. I
think all of them are actually one person.

177
00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:20.120
Not but yeah, no, probably
not, but maybe I'm open to

178
00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:22.320
it. That'd be maybe that would
make it better. Probably too much.

179
00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:26.639
You're probably better than that one,
Mitchell tell you. Mitchell tell you that

180
00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:33.519
when he was just like, well, co hosts are tough because especially because

181
00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:35.000
it's your podcast. You have your
vision of it, this is what you

182
00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:37.759
want. You bring a co host
in. You guys can have a couple

183
00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:41.960
of great episodes and everything is going
cool and you're having fun. And then

184
00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:45.759
I'll send your co hosts Oh oh, he's got spaghetti dinner he has to

185
00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:48.240
go to and you're like, but
dude, we record every Friday at six

186
00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:52.360
o'clock. You're supposed to be here. Oh, hold on, you know,

187
00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:54.159
my dog's sick or my mom.
And then you're like, fuck man,

188
00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:56.720
dude, and you're doing it all
by yourself. And then he shows

189
00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:01.600
up for the good time, and
then he he's not helping you edit,

190
00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:03.799
he's not you know, paying for
the website, he's not doing anything,

191
00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:07.399
and you're just like this, dude's
hold me up, and you'll start having

192
00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:11.600
resentments. So like for me,
I was quick to kick people off.

193
00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:16.120
I didn't really care because it was
my thing, and if people were relapsed,

194
00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:16.919
I'm like, when I started it, I was in a silver living

195
00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.159
home and I like the dudes that
were on it with me, you know,

196
00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.279
but you start relapsing, then you
got to go, you know,

197
00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:28.480
and it just kind of changes over
time, and then you just get married

198
00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.320
and make your wife do it with
you is what I do now, and

199
00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:33.879
she does it every like once a
week, but we don't do it as

200
00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:37.000
much as we used to. But
now it's like I have employees, so

201
00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:39.399
if I'm paying them, they are
like, okay, I'll do a podcast

202
00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:45.919
with you, you know, which
is convenient. But as far as like

203
00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:48.240
the co host part of it,
though, it can be tricky. Mitch

204
00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:52.720
has already went through one two co
hosts something like that, where it's just

205
00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:56.240
it's nothing against the person, it's
just things don't work out. And you

206
00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:00.759
want to talk about horses and they
want to talk about building barns, and

207
00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:03.679
you're like, well, can we
intersect them too? And then you try

208
00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:05.879
and then it doesn't even work and
you're just like what am I doing?

209
00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:11.399
Oh? Man? I always hit
a good point because like I have always

210
00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:15.840
been super hard headed, and I
don't think it could call us would be

211
00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:20.159
a good idea now that I'm thinking
about it. But what was the other

212
00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:24.279
point, Oh, compromise intersect thing. Yeah, compromise. I last month

213
00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:33.399
I've actually intentionally been practicing compromise with
people because yeah, I mean it's you

214
00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:39.679
can't do everything by yourself, and
yeah, that's I think that's why it's

215
00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:41.960
important for me. Anyways, you
can't you can't do everything by yourself and

216
00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:46.200
people. You need people, especially
if you're gonna build something big, you

217
00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:50.600
know you need people. Yeah,
just make sure they know the role and

218
00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:54.440
you kind of define it for them, you know, as part of like

219
00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:58.919
this is this is my podcast,
this is our topics. If you want

220
00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:01.279
to be a part of it,
this is what you do, because yeah,

221
00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:05.200
everybody does need help with it,
you know, absolutely, But just

222
00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:09.279
as long as you have that in
your mind of where you're going and what

223
00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:11.919
it is, and you're laying down
the law like this is my stuff.

224
00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:15.519
And then you get a partner that'll
come in and be like, oh well,

225
00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.240
I'll buy all this cool stuff,
and so then you're feeling like,

226
00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:22.320
oh shit, he kind of owns
the podcast, you know, like it's

227
00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:24.879
my podcast, but he bought the
equipment, and then that kind of leaves

228
00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:28.759
you feeling funny too. But you
just gotta do what you gotta do,

229
00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:33.519
man. But doing it yourself can
be tough. Talking to yourself for half

230
00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:37.679
an hour is pretty much what it's
like. It's right, Yeah, I'm

231
00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:43.480
pretty good at that, so I
can do that. I'll tell you a

232
00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:45.919
piece of advice they gave to me
in radio when I first started. They

233
00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:48.000
were like, take a picture of
somebody and put it up Like back in

234
00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:50.679
the day, we had like this
broadcast board that we had, you know,

235
00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:54.799
and they said, put a picture
up on the board of somebody,

236
00:14:56.440 --> 00:14:58.039
not your mom, not your dad, you know, cause you're going to

237
00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.600
talk different to them. So I
would take different pictures of people and I

238
00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:03.759
would put it up there, and
like when I would talk, I would

239
00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:07.240
I would act like I was talking
to that person. And it really kind

240
00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:11.960
of helped you with the whole theater
of the mind and how you talk when

241
00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:15.399
you talk to people on a podcast
or on radio. You know, you

242
00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:18.720
don't want to say, hey,
everybody, what's going on? You know,

243
00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:20.000
you guys are awesome. I'm mad, you know, and you'll hear

244
00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:24.639
it sometimes, but that's just not
a way that you can connect with one

245
00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:28.000
person one on one. Like if
you were to say, hey, thank

246
00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.440
you for listening. I appreciate you. You know, without you listening today,

247
00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:35.480
I would be nothing. You're building
that connection with that person, with

248
00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:39.600
that one person, because that's how
we listen. We don't listen in groups

249
00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:43.000
all together. We watch TV sometimes
together. We go to concerts together.

250
00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.080
If you had a concert and a
guy comes out and he's like, hey,

251
00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:48.600
are you mfirst, you know,
you're like, yeah, that's different.

252
00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:50.639
When someone's listened to a podcast,
you listen through your ears and there's

253
00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.879
nobody in your ears with you.
Well, at least there shouldn't be,

254
00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:58.720
Caleb, if there is, and
we can talk about that, there's a

255
00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:04.000
place we can ma that. I
apologize. If you guys can hear a

256
00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:07.759
dog, I have to put him
in the kennel because I just have to.

257
00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:11.600
And now he's freaking out, So
I'm gonna mute when I'm not talking.

258
00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:17.240
Okay. That's one of the the
kind of mistakes that I was talking

259
00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:19.440
about though, was that's a that's
a thing that I had overcome. Was

260
00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.759
I used to get on and just
think that I was talking to my whole

261
00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.759
listener base. So I would be
like, hey, everybody, welcome back,

262
00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:30.600
or hey everybody, good afternoon,
and then I, you know,

263
00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:34.440
I had to realize that not everybody
is listening to it right when I posted,

264
00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:37.799
or they're in a different part of
the world so it might not be

265
00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:41.360
afternoon there. So I've you know, taken a couple of tips from Corey

266
00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:45.879
and then a couple other podcasts that
I've listened to, and people just go,

267
00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:51.440
welcome back to redacted, you know, and and then then move on

268
00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:53.480
from there. You know. That's
that's a that's a good one. I

269
00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:59.399
like that and doing it that way
more and and like what Corey just said

270
00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:03.799
to to really connect with the singular
person, because I know for a fact

271
00:17:03.880 --> 00:17:10.119
that there's not a whole rooms full
of people listening to my podcast out there

272
00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:18.599
right now. So yeah, yeah, maybe maybe one day, one day.

273
00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:23.440
Yeah, but it is fun.
Go ahead, Sorry, I was

274
00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:30.920
just gonna say, but it is
fun though, especially when you get that

275
00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:37.000
co host that you really have a
good synergy with or has a uh,

276
00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:42.839
you know, a good kind of
maybe an opposite view of the topics that

277
00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:47.480
you like to have. Like the
co host that I have now is really

278
00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:52.440
interested in the same things that I
do, but he's better at reading and

279
00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:59.119
retaining the information, and I'm better
at finding different topics, and so I

280
00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:02.279
find different topics and stuff and then
he looks into it and remembers it and

281
00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:03.960
then you know, crack a joke
with him, or you know, it's

282
00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:10.119
the synergy really matters too. It's
a big part of it. I forgot

283
00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:22.359
my thought. I don't remember add
okay, uh, well, we were

284
00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:29.960
talking about the basics, the going
in and by yourself. I don't know.

285
00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:33.000
I forget things too, Kim,
do you remember what we're talking about?

286
00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:44.720
Been a co a co host,
having a host host is yeah,

287
00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:52.680
host. When you be talking on
your podcast and you said that Hayl was

288
00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:56.799
saying that he didn't he didn't be
rather do a bet so he liked talking

289
00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:06.880
to his solf a lot, It's
okay, Caleb, Yeah, no,

290
00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:12.559
the whole Uh Like when you're like
both me and what was your name?

291
00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:18.759
The you started the redacted recover your
mind? What was your name? Mitch?

292
00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:21.960
Oh, Mitch? Okay, I'm
in the same boat as you.

293
00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:23.960
It's like it's like you're putting in
this work to make something, but you're

294
00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:27.240
not seeing any results. So it's
the hardest part is pushing through not same

295
00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:33.319
results or maybe little results and still
going. And but it's not necessarily even

296
00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:36.079
about the results. It's about also, you know, doing it for self

297
00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:40.640
yourself of course, because I'm sure
it's all takes time, right, Yeah,

298
00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:45.039
it takes time, and it takes
feeling it out, because sometimes you

299
00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.640
got to realize that maybe you're not
putting a catchy enough title on it.

300
00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:56.039
Maybe you're not maybe you're not putting
enough energy in the words that you say,

301
00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:59.799
and uh, you know, come
on and be happy and sound like

302
00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:03.880
you're happy to be there, like
welcome back, and and don't just get

303
00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:07.680
down and be like, well,
welcome back, we're gonna we're gonna talk

304
00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:12.599
about this today. And you know, sometimes maybe you don't feel like you're

305
00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:17.160
in the mood to podcasts, but
that's your podcast time. Like you gotta

306
00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:22.200
amp yourself up a little bit or
throw some keywords on there. Like you're

307
00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:25.359
working with algorithms and stuff on the
internet, So if you want to get

308
00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:30.119
yourself noticed, you got to think
about what you're naming the what your title

309
00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:33.400
is, what your name is,
what's your what your keywords are that you

310
00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:37.400
put in it or the excerpt that
you put on it, and stuff like

311
00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:41.880
that. So it's it's more searchable
and stuff like that. So there's stuff,

312
00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:45.799
and you're not gonna do it right
every time. You're just you're just

313
00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:51.680
not. And then you can notice
that I did a podcast about something I

314
00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:55.160
thought was really really interesting and I
got almost no views on it, And

315
00:20:55.200 --> 00:21:00.480
then I did a podcast and I
made a funny thing because we just mentioned

316
00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:04.599
Calmutilations for a moment when it came
to aliens and that one, and all

317
00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:07.759
of a sudden just grabbed a whole
bunch of views, Like people were like,

318
00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:11.759
that's what they were looking at that
week. So, you know,

319
00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:18.039
kind of just feeling it out and
going through stuff like that. It reminds

320
00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:21.279
me of that did you did you
hear about that Calm Mutilations? Was it

321
00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:25.000
at Skinwalker Ranch? That show?
Yep, I've heard that one. Yeah,

322
00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:27.160
that was pretty wild. I've seen
easing amount of that. Pretty cool

323
00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:33.640
show. I don't know, random
thought of that. Yeah, that's the

324
00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:36.000
kind of stuff that we talk about
though, you know, that's the kind

325
00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:37.400
of the alien side of it and
stuff like that. But we go into

326
00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:42.480
angels and God and the creation of
the world and stuff like that, and

327
00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:49.079
it's actually kind of easy to it
could be easy to make that kind of

328
00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:55.119
boring. You know. We do
it from the perspective of two guys that

329
00:21:55.240 --> 00:22:00.799
kind of have biblical outlooks but aren't
churchgoers, and in we'rec how so we

330
00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:07.240
try to add flavors of that and
then keep that in mind when we're doing

331
00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:15.400
the the titles and the excerpts and
the you know, the blurbs for it

332
00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:21.599
and stuff like that. And then
title art is another one to think about.

333
00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:26.839
You know. I was trying to
find like clip art for it at

334
00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:33.400
first, or making my own art
through like Canada or photo shop, but

335
00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:37.960
then we just realized that there are
AI generated images out there that can just

336
00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:42.000
do some amazing things. It's just
it's just awesome. Another thing too,

337
00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:49.000
is people start emailing you all this
stuff like, oh, by us,

338
00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:53.000
and let us do all your editing
and let us do all your stuff for

339
00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:56.839
you, And it can get very
expensive if you want to do all that

340
00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:00.200
kind of stuff and you can learn
it all pretty much. I had Mitch

341
00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:06.599
go the expensive route and get Adobe
Audition. But if you get Adobe and

342
00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:10.279
you get like the Creative Cloud,
it's like, what it's like fifty bucks

343
00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:12.240
a month for you, Yeah,
they're right round there. Yeah, for

344
00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:15.720
like a college student. They will
discount it for like a year if it's

345
00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:19.640
like twenty five bucks a month,
or for nonprofits. So that's how I

346
00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:23.759
have mine discounted. And then every
year they try to end it and I

347
00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:27.480
reach out to them and go I'm
still a nonprofit and they go, okay.

348
00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:32.359
So, but there's different things you
can do. There's garage band,

349
00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:38.240
there's Odyssey is another one that you
can get for free and then just kind

350
00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:41.599
of learning how to edit it a
little bit. It takes time, but

351
00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:47.759
there's YouTube is genius, and there's
tutorials on all the sites out there as

352
00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:52.400
well. Do you either of you
know, if or any three of you

353
00:23:52.440 --> 00:24:00.200
know if there's Windows eleven, is
the Spotify the Spotify podcasters on available on

354
00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:06.200
Windows eleven app store or is that
so? I might? I can just

355
00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:07.920
look it up, but I was
just curious if you knew off the top,

356
00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:14.799
I'm assuming it would be. Is
that the platform you're going to use

357
00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:19.519
to publish your podcast? Yeah?
Yeah, I started the account on my

358
00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:22.440
phone, but I want to use
this microphone. It's probably way I know,

359
00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:26.359
it's got to be way better.
It's definitely way more expensive than whatever

360
00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:30.319
they paid to put in this,
for sure, I'm sure, and sometimes

361
00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:37.599
I might. The expensive microphones aren't
always the better ones. Yeah, I'll

362
00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:40.839
be careful of that too. If
you use the USB mic, you know

363
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:45.039
you can. You can spend a
lot of money and you kind of don't

364
00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:48.839
feel like it, but you're spending
like sixty bucks here, seventy bucks there,

365
00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:49.480
and it's like at the end of
it, you're like, damn,

366
00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.160
I just wish I would about the
three hundred dollars microphone, you know,

367
00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:56.480
or to like get a board.
You know Mitch when out he got a

368
00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:00.920
board. The Roadcaster you can get
it and you can find an eBay two

369
00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:07.680
fifty three hundred bucks if you're lucky, and it'll be used. But they're

370
00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:11.279
pretty good, brand new ones.
They're about five hundred. And then you

371
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:15.480
can get the brand new road Caster
Pro two. It's about seven hundred,

372
00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:22.200
and it can get it. It
can get expensive. Okay, I don't

373
00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:26.279
know how good this microphone sounds on
your end, but it's a Scarlets studio

374
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.400
microphone. It came with a kit. It's like a I can't remember what

375
00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:34.200
the word is for it, but
there's a thing where you can control the

376
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:40.200
output, the volume, the volume
of the headphones, a couple other buttons,

377
00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:44.599
and then it's got like a this
is how it connects to the thing

378
00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:48.440
that it's like a midway between the
computer thing. I don't know what they're

379
00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.160
called. Yeah, it was like
two fifty for the whole kit for the

380
00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:56.640
microphone, the headphones, and then
that thing whatever it's called. I don't

381
00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:03.039
know what it's called. So it
looks like that's an excel R mic and

382
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:12.160
that would probably be going to some
kind of power source or an AMP.

383
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:18.039
That's probably what you get that plugged
into. There's different companies that make really

384
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:22.680
good ones. Yeah, that amplifies
it so that you can actually send it

385
00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:27.359
back to the computer. And that's
you know, for starting out. Man,

386
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:33.440
you spent a lot more than I
did. I spent thirty bucks on

387
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:37.000
a microphone. Well you thirty.
I mean, it doesn't matter. You

388
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:41.559
can record, right, That's the
thing, you know, It's the message

389
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:44.720
more than anything. And like Mitch
said, the more you get dialed in,

390
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:48.480
the more you start to know things, and the more you get familiar

391
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.759
with it, you'll realize that's not
how I want to sound. And then

392
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:55.599
you listen to a different podcast and
you'll kind of wonder what kind of mics

393
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:56.799
are they using, you know,
and then reach out to them, you

394
00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.880
know, send them an email like, hey, man, love the show,

395
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.640
but you know, I have a
podcast on my own, but I

396
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:04.640
love this the sound that you have, you know, what kind of equipment

397
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:08.000
do you use? And then most
of them, I would assume, will

398
00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:10.880
write you back. You know,
if you reached out to Joe Rogan,

399
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:12.960
I doubt he's going to write you
back. But you know there's other people

400
00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:17.000
that if you listen to them and
you're like I like that sound, you

401
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:21.519
know, like the Fantasy Footballers as
a podcast that I really like, and

402
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:23.279
they'll write you back. You know, if you're like, hey, what

403
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.039
kind of equipment you guys use?
I think they might even post it on

404
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:32.799
their on their site because people ask
them so many times, they just figured

405
00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:33.920
hey, we'll just put it out
there and let everybody know what we're using.

406
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:38.400
Or they're getting paid to use it. So I don't know, but

407
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:45.079
organ's pretty awesome. I love you. Yeah. You know a Twitch streamer

408
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:49.480
that would he had a set up
section in his bio because people ask him

409
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:55.960
so much and maybe he'd just be
like pick down there, and that company

410
00:27:55.960 --> 00:28:00.599
probably paid him to do it too, So that's pretty sweet. I wouldn't

411
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:08.880
do it enough somebody was paying me. Fabulous just saying but I'm not really

412
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:12.680
interested in, like I said,
making money off this. But if somebody

413
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:15.839
was like, hey, we're gonna
give you like eight free microphones and all

414
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:23.279
this cool setup. I would do
that for that. Yeah, all like

415
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:27.079
one of those things for them to
gain reputation, but give you free product

416
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.960
to either test and get their word
out type of thing, like oh I

417
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:38.160
use their microphones and it's really good
and yeah. Like endorsements, that's yeah,

418
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:41.000
And a lot of times, like
I said, they will give you

419
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:42.640
products and stuff to do that.
Like one time I was on the radio

420
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:48.039
and they gave me Sinus Busters and
in order to endorse it, you have

421
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:51.200
to use it. Like there's some
law that they made, the FCC made

422
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:52.960
because too many people are just getting
on the air just going yeah, I

423
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.480
use this and they don't really use
it. So like, nope, you

424
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:59.920
have to use whatever you're you're getting
paid to say. You know. Otherwise

425
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.799
is you can do a live read
where you talk about how great so and

426
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:04.880
so says it is. But for
you to say, oh, man,

427
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.279
I use this product and it's great, you have to use it. And

428
00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:11.720
so I was like whatever. Man, it was like one hundred bucks a

429
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.000
week. They're paying me too,
So I was like, shit, I'll

430
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:17.440
use it. Man. That stuff
burned like hell, I don't think you

431
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:21.720
can find it anymore on the shelves. I mean, but it it snus

432
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:23.839
is up some fears. Man.
That's not like I was on there just

433
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:27.720
straight doing cocaine all night. I
was like, good lord, and I

434
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.079
tried to do it one time on
my commercial read. I was like,

435
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.599
here, I'll do it right now. I was like, I did it

436
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.680
and I just started coughing and it
just burned so bad. I was like,

437
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:38.440
what the hell? And they were
like and their copy points is like,

438
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:41.799
if it's burning, it means it's
working. And I'm like, it's

439
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:47.880
working, it's working. It was
it was hell man. So yeah,

440
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:53.599
no sypl flusters on this podcast.
It just sounded like all those everybody's got

441
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:57.119
Man Escaped and Blue Shoe right now. Yeah, it's just like, oh,

442
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:00.599
okay, well that's TM. I
need to know you guys. We

443
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:07.319
should start making fake ones kind of
like we're gonna make We're gonna make commercials

444
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:10.559
for our coloones. We're gonna come
out with fake colones. We're gonna have

445
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:15.480
like professional looking commercials with them.
I still need a name for mine.

446
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:25.079
Mitch's is gonna be Bear Bear,
Justin's gonna be fabulous Mitch or not Mitch.

447
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:30.640
But Adams is going to be woods
and he's gonna smell like Mildew I

448
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:37.359
wear I wear two one seven,
and I smell like Keavin seven. It's

449
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:47.359
floating ACD on a cloud. Oh
it's my spirit angel. I don't think

450
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:52.920
about catchphrase bear, does it?
You gotta think about that one a little

451
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:59.240
bit. Wow. I think Corey
got it though. I wear bear because

452
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:03.519
the girl's claw. Yeah, I
don't know. There's a deeper story behind

453
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:08.960
the bear thing. Oh yeah,
what's the story? Can I hear it?

454
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:15.559
What's we share it on? Of
course? What what does a bear?

455
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:19.160
What do they say? What does
a bear do? What does the

456
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:30.880
bear do in the woods? Uhh
yeah, no, he got it.

457
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:37.200
I got it. Does the saying
is do does does a bear ship in

458
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:44.759
the woods or something like that?
Oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah

459
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.720
yeah. The original one I heard
was the tree one where if a tree

460
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:49.559
falls in the woods, doesn't make
a sound or something like that. Yeah.

461
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:53.359
Yeah, we do something with that
for for Adams. But mine ship

462
00:31:53.440 --> 00:32:01.359
related so and that's why you want
to have your cologne. Didn't you listen

463
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:07.119
to that podcast, Kim? Nope, she didn't. She didn't listen to

464
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:15.440
the episode. No, we can't
go back into it, can't we Now,

465
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:17.319
we'll leave it. We'll leave it
alone. We'll leave it for the

466
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.039
imagination. It was in like I
don't remember a couple of couple episodes ago

467
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.440
of the podcast. I don't even
remember the title of it, but it

468
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.359
was towards the end of it.
It might have been the one with Sue.

469
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:32.519
Was that the one with Susan on
I was that was the last one

470
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:37.400
I was in. I think,
yeah, yeah, yeah, So I

471
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.079
don't know, like a week or
two ago, like fun Friday or something

472
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:43.799
or Fabulous Friday or something. I
don't remember what it was called. But

473
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.079
yeah, listen, we go into
detail because I saw this this Colone commercial

474
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:52.519
with this dude that was in you
ever see the movie Dune. He's in

475
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:59.000
Willie Walker to this actor, and
my wife's like, like, was he

476
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:00.160
supposed to be something special? You
know? She's like, I'll clown on

477
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:04.079
them. And he's like just got
the serious look on his face when his

478
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:08.920
little jean jacket and again jean jacket
it was a leathern jacket and he just

479
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:14.119
looks at the camera and he's just
like bloo or whatever. And I'm just

480
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:15.680
like what the like, really,
that's supposed to get me to buy this,

481
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.920
which then I did because I really
do like the smell of it because

482
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:24.119
it's kind of funny. So I
do own that cal now. But I

483
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:27.440
just thought that would be so funny, and I started like running it through

484
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.279
my head, like if we started
making fake ones, you know, and

485
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:31.559
just how fun that would be.
And that's the thing that we do in

486
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:36.680
recovery is we have fun. We
like to laugh, and it's just something

487
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:37.480
that we do, you know.
And it's like, if we have time

488
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:43.799
to put together a silly video,
we will. I've been down for that

489
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:50.079
a lot. That's a good thing. Yeah, that'd be cool down for

490
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.720
sure. Yeah. I don't have
to get you on board with that.

491
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:57.599
Well, Caleb, is there any
more questions? I kind of popped your

492
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:05.359
cherry here. You're podcasting now officially, so relations thank you appreciate it.

493
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:09.119
I'm excited for it, and I'm
impressed with myself. I mean, I

494
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:13.480
interrupted a few times. I try
not to, honestly, but other than

495
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:19.320
that, I think I'm doing pretty
decent on my first one. But yeah,

496
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:24.480
questions questions. I honestly thought me
and you, Corey were gonna sit

497
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:29.280
down before and talk a little bit
before. I'm not really prepared for this

498
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:30.519
at all, but if i can, let me see if I can think

499
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:34.079
of anything off the top of my
head. I love face. When you

500
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:36.639
said that, he's like, oh
no, Corey just throws you in the

501
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:39.239
seat and you just run with it. I wanted to say. I was

502
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:45.519
like, if you think that he
treated you differently than anybody else, No,

503
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:58.440
that's how he teaches people. He
just you writing right here, learn

504
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:02.360
how to swim. Here's the deep
end of the let's go exactly. I

505
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:07.639
have to get all up in it, and I'm always falling. I always

506
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:15.039
always fall for it. Always.
That's what you got you. No,

507
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:21.599
oh no, what's going on?
I got you two times because you can't

508
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:27.559
drive. But I just I just
thought it would be cool if you got

509
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:29.760
online for my first one. I
don't know what we would talk about,

510
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:31.519
really, we'd have to plan it
or just jump on and talk. I

511
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:34.760
don't really care. I just want
to get it started, you know,

512
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:38.079
just do the first move. Come. Yeah, let me know, man,

513
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:43.039
And I know you're just getting over
COVID. There was a COVID scared

514
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:46.400
around here, and then one of
our guys I had to drive somebody today

515
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.840
and turns out they might have COVID. So we're just trying to get through

516
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:52.679
the holidays man without aimbody catching COVID. So we'll have to get you up

517
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.559
to the office. Man. You
can check it out and check out the

518
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.400
studio I have up here, and
yeah, and talk to me. See

519
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.440
his setup, and you know,
I'm willing to help people out, man,

520
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:06.119
And if it's something that'll keep you
sober, then hell yeah, man,

521
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:09.360
like do it and don't care about
what people say. You're gonna get

522
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:14.159
better. That's how we learn,
is by doing things. So you're not

523
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.320
gonna come out the gate just on
fire. Being Joe Rogan. It's not

524
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:19.880
how it works, you know.
But every day you'll get better. And

525
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:24.920
you said something earlier about you know
how it's just it's a slow process,

526
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:28.760
you know, But that's how it
goes. You know. It's kind of

527
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:30.280
like your recovery, you know,
like you want to have ten years clean

528
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:34.599
right now, that's not going to
happen. You know. It's day by

529
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.559
day and that little stuff that you
do every day, even though it doesn't

530
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:39.360
feel like you're doing a whole lot. You look back on it in two

531
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:43.360
weeks three weeks, two months.
You look back on it and go,

532
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.119
damn, I've come a long way, you know, And you look back,

533
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:47.280
like four months ago, I didn't
even have a microphone, and look,

534
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:50.960
look now I got a website.
I got this, I got so

535
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:53.360
just keep going with it and you'll
see the success of it. It's just

536
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:57.239
like recovery, man, you know, it's you're not going to have ten

537
00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:04.639
years today. Yeah, lost my
thought again. I had a good one,

538
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:07.639
but well, no, man,
I was gonna leave you with one

539
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:12.119
more step of advice was go listen
to some podcasts. Listen to some different

540
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:15.280
ones, Listen to some that have
been around for a little bit, and

541
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:21.320
you'll start to watch some video podcasts. YouTube's kind of good for that.

542
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:23.800
They have some video ones on there
that you can watch. You can kind

543
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:28.079
of see they're set up a little
bit. Other ones you can listen,

544
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:31.480
listen to how they do intros,
outros, transitions, if you want to

545
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:37.639
do stuff like that, and then
just it kind of gives you an idea

546
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:42.159
of how you want to edit or
add stuff. And you know, I

547
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:45.519
don't think that you're gonna be the
same because my whole thing was I listened

548
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:50.360
to a podcast I loved it.
I listened to episode one hundred and eighty

549
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:54.320
and then went, ah, man, mind doesn't sound like that on episode

550
00:37:54.320 --> 00:38:00.440
three, and it discouraged me.
So they've been doing it for one hundred

551
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:02.039
and eighty episodes. And then I
find out later that these guys both had

552
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:06.719
podcasts before this one, so they
came into it knowing what they were doing

553
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:09.760
and then did one hundred and eighty
episodes. So it's like, that's why.

554
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:13.320
But it does give you a good
idea on things. You can try

555
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:16.360
things, you know, listen to
how they open the podcast, how they

556
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:21.559
talk to people, how they close
it, and try to get a good

557
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:23.719
variety so you can see what other
people are doing and stuff like that.

558
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:30.199
That's I think that would do good. They'll do you good. Thank you

559
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.440
for that. I yeah, I
definitely want to throw my personal twist on

560
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:35.480
it. For sure. I want
to be real, you know, I

561
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:37.079
want to be I want to be
raw, but I want to be myself

562
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:44.119
and this and that. But yeah, I haven't even really started on ideas

563
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:45.360
other than I came up with the
name, and I know I want to

564
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:50.440
put my my goal is to I
will put Actually I'll just say this,

565
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.800
I will put out my first podcast
within a month. Even if it sucks,

566
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:59.400
that's fine. It will suck.
Actually I already know. Well if

567
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:04.480
you're saying it, if you're saying
it, but yeah, just make it

568
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.840
as good as you can and just
be you and be real. But start

569
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.400
by making a Facebook page for it. You know, post on your Facebook

570
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:14.920
page, get your friends to like
it, and post on there episode one

571
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.239
is coming, and then put a
date on there. That'd be my advice

572
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:22.280
because that way, whatever date,
if you put January fifth, four pm,

573
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:25.599
you got a deadline. Otherwise you're
going to keep pushing it back,

574
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:29.079
pushing it back. Well, I
didn't have this, and didn't have at

575
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:30.639
least for me. It's how it
was like. I didn't have a website,

576
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.360
I didn't have this, I didn't
have. All these excuses came.

577
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.039
And then a dude I picked up
from treatment looked at me and told me

578
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:39.360
he was disappointed at me or with
me because I didn't start the podcast yet.

579
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:42.119
And I was like, dude,
I just got out like a week

580
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:44.480
or two ago. And he's like, yeah, but you were talking about

581
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:45.880
you were going to start a podcast, and I just thought i'd hear it.

582
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.199
And he was like I'm disappointed.
When he said that to me,

583
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.159
I was like, all right,
then, f itt I'll put that on

584
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:52.960
Facebook and I'll put a date in
the time and we're going to do it

585
00:39:53.000 --> 00:40:01.119
by then, you know, and
couldn't turn back then. So yeah,

586
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:07.719
and just try not to suck.
That's all you can do. That's how

587
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:15.159
you can do. That's perfect good. You would do good. Thanks you

588
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:20.360
already you do it. Thank you. Yeah, and you got some fans

589
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.320
up here to seventeen Recovery that you
know will help you out. And we'd

590
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:24.239
like to see people do good.
And like I said, anything that,

591
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:28.840
I'll keep you sober, dude,
we're all about it. So oh,

592
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:31.760
that's what my thought was. Distraction. That's always been my biggest coping mechanism

593
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:35.559
is distraction. So if I keep
myself busy, I feel like I have

594
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:37.840
a way better chance. That's my
main one. That in music, really

595
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:43.559
and your mind's moving forward. You
know, you're not sitting there thinking about,

596
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:45.280
oh, I used to do this
and to do that. You're thinking

597
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:46.159
about, well, I'm going to
do this, I'm gonna build this,

598
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.639
I'm gonna make this, and you're
you're just moving your mind forward. So

599
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.920
it's just naturally you move forward,
and yeah, there's gonna be some stumbles

600
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:57.400
along the way, but like I
said, pick yourself up in mitchad you

601
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.960
know, like listen to his podcast
of him begetting and they're way different than

602
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:02.760
they are now. And in a
year from now, miss going to look

603
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:05.920
back at the one he's doing now
and going, oh, man, I

604
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:07.960
should have done this, done that, But he would have learned by then

605
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:12.360
and he's gonna probably say, I
don't do that anymore. I don't structure

606
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:14.400
it like this, I don't talk
like that, I don't say this,

607
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:16.199
And it's just a learning process.
But it's fun too, man, And

608
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:20.760
you got to remember to have fun. You're in recovery. That's awesome,

609
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:22.719
you know, keep that going and
you just tie the two together, man,

610
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:27.440
and it can be blissful for sure. So we wish you the best.

611
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.320
Yeah, enjoy the adversity. Thank
you. I wish you guys the

612
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:32.719
best too, thanks man. He
up the good work. I'll keep up

613
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:37.280
the good work. And yeah,
yeah, we'll meet up soon for sure.

614
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:37.960
You have to come up here,
like I said, check out our

615
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:42.320
stuff and hang out and have some
coffee and hit the meeting up here.

616
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:47.000
Help. Yeah, sounds good.
Thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery

617
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:53.199
podcasts. Win a bunch of fresh
from two seventeen Recovery go to the all

618
00:41:53.400 --> 00:42:00.360
the website to seventeen recovery dot com