1 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:21,199 What is Kraka lacking Hardwood Knocks listeners. I am Dank Valley coming at you 2 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:26,519 with my certified fantabulous Thermo nuclear af since I didn't just say that at the 3 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,440 intro for some reason, co host Grant Hughes. Before we get started with 4 00:00:31,559 --> 00:00:35,759 a bunch of ground to cover on this one podcast or two podcasts wherever it 5 00:00:35,799 --> 00:00:39,640 winds up becoming, please remember to subscribe to us wherever you are consuming us. 6 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:42,520 Hit that sub button on YouTube like can comment help the algorithm love us 7 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,280 back? Please continue subscribing on your podcast players as well. We appreciate ratings 8 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,000 and reviews on Apple. Right now, there is like we've had Knicks fans 9 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:52,200 down voting us. I don't even know what we said about the Knicks lately. 10 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,600 I mentioned this on the last podcast, but they've been downloting us for 11 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,920 a little bit. So we can get some five star ratings and reviews that 12 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,320 would be great. Join our discords. The link to that is in the 13 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:03,599 podcast and YouTube descriptions. Follow our socials. We were at Hardwood Knocks on 14 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:10,680 Twitter and TikTok, and we were at Hardwood Underscore Knocks on Instagram. All 15 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,120 that out of the way, though, we asked the question, everyone's dying 16 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:17,159 and oh, Grant, how many full body pull ups did you do today? 17 00:01:17,879 --> 00:01:19,879 Well, Dan, they were ring muscle ups, soups all, how 18 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,319 dare you h? And I'd never done one before and I did three today, 19 00:01:23,599 --> 00:01:27,519 So you know, it just sounds like four too many. Everyone take 20 00:01:27,599 --> 00:01:32,400 the day off work tomorrow in the celebration, and it'll be like a national 21 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,799 holiday by like next year. Probably that is the that's not that's the necessary 22 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:40,079 amount of information. I did a TMI segment where I talked about my return 23 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,480 to eating the other day when you weren't on. Oh you did tell us 24 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:49,000 so the people know about your ridiculous binging. But yes, because we had 25 00:01:49,239 --> 00:01:52,120 I got dms from people like I guess actually watch us on YouTube or shout 26 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:55,079 out to them. But it wasn't a bunch. It was like a half 27 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,359 dozen or so people for the past couple months asking if I's sick because like 28 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,920 there's like you look like some of them said you look terrible then like they've 29 00:02:01,959 --> 00:02:04,879 lost a lot of weight, and so I was like, I felt obligated 30 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,239 to give an explanation, but I was also just I was hopped up on 31 00:02:07,319 --> 00:02:09,439 cheesecake when I recorded, so I was gonna, I was gonna overshare. 32 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:15,360 I'm disappointed. It wouldn't be fun funny if if the next set of those 33 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,199 were like, dann, are you okay? It looks like you ate fourteen 34 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:23,080 family sized cheesecakes, and you could then say, first, I mean it 35 00:02:23,199 --> 00:02:28,000 was twelve, So yeah, that's you. Don't look like you ate a 36 00:02:28,039 --> 00:02:30,560 whole bunch of cheesecakes. You look it look like a normal person. I 37 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,560 don't know. I don't know. We'll see what, we'll see what the 38 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:37,159 people say. It's possible I've seen because I saw myself every day. I 39 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,439 didn't notice it, and then when I looked at progress photos, I was 40 00:02:38,479 --> 00:02:40,240 like, that's what made me say something. I was like, oh, 41 00:02:40,319 --> 00:02:43,919 holy fuck. Because people came up to meet the gym asking if I's sick 42 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,680 too, and my family members were like, do you have cancer? Like 43 00:02:46,759 --> 00:02:47,599 and I'm not. I don't mean to make light of cancer, but I'm 44 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:52,360 like no, So that made me. But like you see me once a 45 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,439 week, like maybe you didn't notice it, but like when I've looked side 46 00:02:53,439 --> 00:02:58,719 to side, but I feel like I I three straight days of eating cheesecake 47 00:02:58,719 --> 00:03:01,400 and I'm like forty eight hours removed from it and back on the diet rind, 48 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,520 I still feel like I'm hopped up on cheesecake. Yeah. I mean, 49 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:07,960 if anyone asks you if you're sick, you can, you gotta turn 50 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,439 it around on him and say, like, the only thing sick about me 51 00:03:10,599 --> 00:03:13,800 is the pump I just got, or you know, you gotta. There's 52 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,879 gotta be better ways to say that in the in you know, the gym 53 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:21,280 community. But you gotta flip it around. I will pro tip the one 54 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,000 day binge pump and the two day cheesecake binge pump our next level. That 55 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:31,280 third day there's gonna be no pump this cheesecake pump. That's that's it. 56 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:36,919 Cracked it. This is a basketball podcast rumor, hasn't it? So, 57 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,000 but let's get some basketball. And so when loeu of a traditional mail bag, 58 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:43,159 I didn't throw out a solicitation because we had straggler questions. We didn't 59 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:47,360 get to end because there was a segment proposed by real Seerrup twenty two nineteen 60 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,919 in discord. They gave us twelve topics to start with. So if if 61 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:55,560 listeners like this and we make it sort of a semi regular occurrence, let 62 00:03:55,639 --> 00:04:00,319 us know what you think, but the segment is called that's something or that 63 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,639 stupid. Now, I purposely didn't look at any of these things in depth, 64 00:04:03,719 --> 00:04:06,080 like I saw them when they came in, but I wanted to react 65 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,039 to them in real time. I just figure it could be interesting. Is 66 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,159 that something or is that something stupid? So I guess this is the inaugural 67 00:04:13,319 --> 00:04:16,439 debut of that something or that stupid and hat tipped to Real Syrup twenty two 68 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:23,680 nineteen for it, and also again thank you to Real Syrup for the for 69 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:27,040 the idea. But like, sorry that we're going to say half your ideas 70 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,480 are stupid, and but that's one of the parameters you gave us no offense. 71 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:31,800 That's just how it's going to be. I don't know what percentage the 72 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,000 breakdown will be, but some of these are gonna be stupid, and we're 73 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,399 gonna have to say so, so you know, sorry for you, but 74 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,800 also thank you. Yes, we're very appreciative. And now we're about to 75 00:04:40,879 --> 00:04:44,319 probably dump all over a couple of these, so let's get started. I'll 76 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,800 go with the first one. That's something or That's stupid. The NBA should 77 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,720 look at rule changes to cut down on the reliance of the three balls, 78 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:56,000 so it's less of a make or miss league. So I'm gonna say that's 79 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,480 stupid because it feels a little bit like a criticism that was a rising, 80 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,720 you know what, four or five years ago. I feel like it was 81 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,759 very much tied to the Rockets and just all they do is shoot threes, 82 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,879 and then all everybody does is shoot threes now, and so I guess if 83 00:05:11,399 --> 00:05:15,759 and the lack of offensive diversity was a downside, but that was kind of 84 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:17,800 kind of put the lie to that. You know, there's enough diversity in 85 00:05:17,879 --> 00:05:21,040 offense and all that stuff. But the crazy thing about the maker miss league 86 00:05:21,079 --> 00:05:24,279 thing, which is real. I don't know if you saw this. Fred 87 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:29,319 Katz, the Knicks writer for the Athletic and seth part. Now, they 88 00:05:29,519 --> 00:05:33,079 dug through the numbers and twenty six percent of teams that have had double digit 89 00:05:33,199 --> 00:05:38,399 leads have lost that game this year. I don't know how that compares historically, 90 00:05:38,519 --> 00:05:42,240 but like, so it's only three out of four times you're up double 91 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,079 digits in the game, do you win? That feels crazy, That feels 92 00:05:45,079 --> 00:05:47,279 like high variants, And I also say that's kind of exciting. So so 93 00:05:47,399 --> 00:05:50,560 that's why I'm going stupid I think I think that the three is not going 94 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,439 anywhere because it makes the game a higher variance game, and I think the 95 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,920 NBA likes that. I would agree, and I was going to go with 96 00:05:56,959 --> 00:06:00,120 the higher variance thing. And I also think there's an overstated amount of people 97 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,040 who think, like every offense is homogeneous. It's the way that you're taking. 98 00:06:04,079 --> 00:06:08,319 Maybe your shot profile looks a little bit similar, but the method by 99 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:12,600 which you get to those shots, I do feel like is not uniform, 100 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,240 and like not even close to uniform, where there's not a bunch of the 101 00:06:15,319 --> 00:06:18,040 twenty eighteen nineteen Houston Rockets run around out there, like the closest you come 102 00:06:18,079 --> 00:06:23,240 is probably whatever the Mavericks are doing right now. Yeah, right, So 103 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,920 I'll take the second one. We which, by which is meant to say 104 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,360 fans, media, basically everyone who doesn't work in a front office should talk 105 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:33,839 more about how fun and unique teams and players are and less about how good, 106 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:41,040 how dominant and championship contendery they are. Something are stupid, that's something, 107 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,000 because there's more to an NBA season than is this team a contender or 108 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,240 not, especially when they're not built to be one. And so like, 109 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:53,879 why are we evaluating the like why why is Oklahoma City? We shouldn't have 110 00:06:53,879 --> 00:06:56,160 been a punchline to start season? Why are they a punchline? Because they're 111 00:06:56,199 --> 00:07:00,319 going through a thorough rebuild with the angle of trying to contend for something bigger 112 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,399 than whatever the hell the you know, the Knicks and the Hornets aspire to 113 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,399 be. But I will say I'm I don't want to tell people how to 114 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,040 fan either, and so like, if you're okay with I'm gonna use the 115 00:07:11,079 --> 00:07:13,360 Knicks as an example, because I'm a Knicks fan. I'm not okay with 116 00:07:13,439 --> 00:07:15,720 what they're doing. I think they've been very entertaining this year. Julius Randall 117 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,120 and John Brunson both might be All Stars, but like, I don't see 118 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,000 the path for them to get to that next level. I just I don't 119 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,240 see it, and I would rather see them strip it down and start over. 120 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,839 Don't tell me I'm wrong. That's how I want. I'm not saying 121 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:30,920 that that's what they need to do. That's what I would do as I 122 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,439 was in charge. And if you're someone who enjoys that, I'm not going 123 00:07:32,519 --> 00:07:35,360 to tell you that you're wrong. But if you want to look at this 124 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:40,399 through the lens of well, is this team building towards contender status? You 125 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,720 don't have to we don't have to fucking masturbate over everything good that happens just 126 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:47,360 because a team won thirty seven games instead of twenty nine. And so if 127 00:07:47,399 --> 00:07:49,639 you're not, if you're an analyst or you're a fan, and you want 128 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,279 to criticize a team that feels like it really is headed towards the middle, 129 00:07:54,319 --> 00:07:57,120 and you're gonna come up with valid points, I think we need to be 130 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,079 more accepting of that too. Yeah, I think that's definitely something I agree 131 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,000 with you. I think also i'd add that, like it's it's just easier 132 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,560 to talk in terms of like who's great, who's contending, who's not, 133 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:13,759 if you're talking about the entire league than it is to know, well, 134 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,240 when this guy gets downhill going right and he has this one move that he 135 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:20,000 does, like, that's cool and fun. You know that if you watch 136 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,319 eighty two games of a team and you can appreciate that, and you can 137 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,720 anticipate it and be exct like just little niche things, that's where the fun 138 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:30,639 tends to be, unless you're just talking about broad strokes, like this team 139 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,000 plays a fun style they run a lot like that's that's a way to do 140 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:37,600 it, and you just can't do that if you're trying to talk about the 141 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,919 team or the league as a whole, or like how teams are organized. 142 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,840 And it's just a question of like I'm speaking from more of the media perspective 143 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,399 because as a fan, I kind of I'm half with you and half not, 144 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,120 Like I like appreciating the esthetics and the fun, but I also like 145 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,679 want my team to be acting intelligently in pursuit of a championship. But it's 146 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,720 just like the media is the media side of it. It really just depends 147 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:05,840 on who your audience is. Like if you're say employed by the team and 148 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:09,840 you're doing the postgame show for the Knicks, for example, like you have 149 00:09:11,399 --> 00:09:13,320 a specific slant and you might say someone's that want to be all start just 150 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:18,399 to get resly dated, month old information. Like your audience is real different 151 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:22,440 and they want different things, Like they want their team pumped up, they 152 00:09:22,519 --> 00:09:26,639 want the positivity I think most people. Some people want people just honesty, 153 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,120 I think in analysis of their team. But I do agree that it's more 154 00:09:31,279 --> 00:09:33,519 It can be a lot more interesting if you're just approaching it from like, 155 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,840 hey, you know what's cool about this x y Z because that's just that's 156 00:09:37,879 --> 00:09:41,480 more, that's more fun, that's more positive. It's different than what's this 157 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,559 team's net rating versus this team's you know, that's so that can be really 158 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:50,240 dry sometimes. As an aggrieved national blog person, I would like to say, 159 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,000 I wish we were more accepting of the national slants now where it's hey, 160 00:09:54,039 --> 00:09:58,440 congratulations that if you're a Pistons fan that you've watched more Killy and Haze 161 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,519 than us, Like that's kind of your job. And it's very hard to 162 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:05,440 cover these thirty teams, and as long as we're not coming from what is 163 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:11,639 clearly disingenuous territory. I just like the conversation we had about the Nuggets defense. 164 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,559 I went off and I won't do it any more on YouTube, But 165 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,639 people claiming that our takes were surface level, and I was like, Grant 166 00:10:16,799 --> 00:10:22,639 was on here talking about fucking pick and roll coverages. If that surface level 167 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,120 to you, then that's great, then go find your content elsewhere, like 168 00:10:26,159 --> 00:10:28,360 you don't have to consume it. And I know negative reactions are gonna always 169 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,440 engender more of a response than the positive ones, and I enjoy the compliments. 170 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,039 That's what discord is formed when people are nice, Like I really appreciate 171 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,240 it. It keeps us going and I don't expect that to be all the 172 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,799 interactions, but like it's okay to not watch every game of every team twice 173 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,200 and still be able to form an opinion on what's happening. Recognize that we're 174 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:50,679 giving you the zoomed out view of teams for the most part. When we 175 00:10:50,759 --> 00:10:54,360 do our deep dives into certain things, like yeah, that's when we're trying 176 00:10:54,399 --> 00:10:56,840 to be more thorough than like we're not trying to cover every single team in 177 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,879 the league during this podcast like we do for certain segments. So like that's 178 00:11:00,919 --> 00:11:03,679 the stuff that I still just get. I know, localized coverage is so 179 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:05,440 good. I appreciate it, and I try to make it. If you 180 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,279 want to know about your team, follow the beat writers, follow you know, 181 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,919 and sprinklings. You can't stuff too and you mentioned if you want positive 182 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,000 coverage, honest coverage, or even like sort of the massochist coverage, it's 183 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,399 all out there and separating these podcasts and so you can get all those different 184 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:24,840 slens. That's what makes it does drive me to be better, more and 185 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,639 more thorough in my opinion, but like you're still just it's not going to 186 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,000 be at the level of like I'm never gonna understand the Suns like the Timeline 187 00:11:31,039 --> 00:11:35,840 podcast or the Thunder like the Uncontested podcast, or the Timberwolves like the Day 188 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,000 More NBA show, Like I'm just never I'm not watching them enough, and 189 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,919 like I find those shows enjoyable too, like because you get a lot of 190 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,600 insight into those teams there. So it's, yes, it's our responsibility to 191 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:48,159 at least do our best to like get a pulse on the league and what's 192 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,679 happening with each team. Like also kind of recognize, like this isn't the 193 00:11:52,799 --> 00:11:56,840 easiest thing to do. I'm I marvel at how some of our many so 194 00:11:56,919 --> 00:11:58,559 many of our Discord members know so much about each team and they're just like, 195 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:03,159 oh, this isn't your full time job, right, So like there's 196 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,480 a there's a little bit of the woe is me, Like I need to 197 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,600 shut the fuck up people, because I get paid to do this is like 198 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,840 full time for a living, and I still feel overwhelmed. And there are 199 00:12:09,879 --> 00:12:13,960 people do it just a sort of a hobby, So like that impresses me, 200 00:12:13,039 --> 00:12:16,120 but like it's also not easy to have what I would say is an 201 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:22,360 accurate pulse, not like a hundred percent unequivocally correct take on every single aspect 202 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:26,519 of every single team. But it's tough to get like a pulse worthwhile pulse 203 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,360 on thirty different fucking organizations. That's my that's my mini rant. Woe is 204 00:12:31,399 --> 00:12:33,840 Me is all I heard from that, So we can move on to the 205 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:39,639 next one. The next one is the NBA should abolish the coaches Challenge. 206 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:45,639 That's something or that's stupid. I think it's something only because I don't want 207 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:50,240 it totally just thrown out, but I would like a tweak and I think 208 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:54,320 I think probably what's going to happen eventually is we'll get some equivalent to VR 209 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,720 and soccer where it's just like there's someone up there in the booth that's reviewing. 210 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,200 It's trickier because in soccer there can be stoppages and you're adding extra time 211 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,759 for all this, you know, in between the ball going out of bounds 212 00:13:05,759 --> 00:13:07,799 and all this other stuff. But I would like there to just be like 213 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,799 a neutral not neutral but employed by the league, third party, sort of 214 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,320 have that with the replay center, but someone that's maybe in the arena that 215 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,080 is just right there looking at you know, a block charge call that looked 216 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,440 bang bang. I don't know how you determine what's getting looked at and what's 217 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,919 not, but you know, just making just so we don't have to deal 218 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,080 with, you know, every questionable call in the first quarter, whoever committed 219 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,080 the fouls going like this over, I'm spinning my hand in the air to 220 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,480 the coach and the coaches are all looking at him like, are you fucking 221 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:39,639 serious? We're not going to review this first, you know, team foul 222 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:43,759 four minutes into the game. I just want it sort of smoother, more 223 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,799 impartial less sort of let's confer with you know, the video review teams on 224 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:52,519 each bench and figure it out. I like it. I like the idea, 225 00:13:52,159 --> 00:13:56,159 but the goal has just always been to get it right. So however 226 00:13:56,279 --> 00:13:58,200 you can do that is great. I think the current system is okay, 227 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,320 but it's like definitely could be better. So I'd say it's something I was 228 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,559 about to lean towards that stupid because I think coaches need to keep their challenge 229 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,639 if they get it right. But what you just outlined where and I have 230 00:14:07,759 --> 00:14:13,120 thought this too, there's a way to accelerate this while prioritizing accuracy in more 231 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,320 situations. I know there's not as many stoppages in the NBA, but like 232 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,440 we don't need to have the reviews last long. So I'm gonna say that's 233 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,919 something there's an alternative way to do it to where maybe you don't even need 234 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,799 the coaches challenge, Like, if your priority is accuracy, you could just 235 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:28,000 do this from the NBA's home base ins the Caucus in New Jersey, and 236 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:31,320 I'm sure they have all these angles that even if it has a stoppage, 237 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,679 it's gonna be a shorter stoppage than what we're dealing now with so many of 238 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,200 these coaches challenges. Yeah, it's just the trick is really deciding when to 239 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:43,120 like put the machine in motion as far as we're reviewing a call, because 240 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,720 that's the best part about the league is the up and down action and there's 241 00:14:46,759 --> 00:14:50,759 not a lot of rest. You know, things happen quickly, there's fluidity. 242 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,159 If you're not careful, you can disrupt that. And I think like 243 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:58,000 that would have a zero percent approval rating if we had more stoppages than longer 244 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,919 stoppages, because everyone agrees that those suck. We hate those. The next 245 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,799 one is players should not be allowed to talk to the refs during the game. 246 00:15:05,919 --> 00:15:09,559 Coaches can lobby on behalf of their team. We have advocates now instead 247 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:16,480 of player Ooh, that's stupid. They're like, there's and this is I'm 248 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:20,840 I'm going to remove the drama that is incited from some of these interactions, 249 00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:26,080 which makes their great content and talking points. You just can't like we're gonna 250 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,679 deal with so many more technicals and injections if they're actively not allowed to talk 251 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,120 to refs. Nobody's listening to that, and so like even trying to enforce 252 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,559 that uniformity I think would be bad for basketball. I do think there's something 253 00:15:37,639 --> 00:15:43,639 to like you came up with the rule change of where the ref can challenge 254 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,559 you and if you're wrong, I'm like that argument, like you get a 255 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,600 technical or whatever, a flake grant ye two fouls and so like let's do 256 00:15:50,799 --> 00:15:54,960 that, Like, let's do that. So I don't think you can prevent 257 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,200 players from talking refs. I do think there's probably rush will tell you that 258 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:03,399 they've had productive conversations with player and there's like real rational discourse happening. It's 259 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,120 the heated moments that go viral. I'm like, look, that's also kind 260 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:08,600 of part of the game, is like I enjoy like the ref's animatedly throwing 261 00:16:08,679 --> 00:16:11,480 someone out sometimes And no, I don't ever want it to impact the outcome 262 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,720 of a game, but sometimes where the outcome is already done, like we 263 00:16:15,799 --> 00:16:18,679 see like you know, Draymond might be most likely to get tossed when the 264 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,200 Warriors are down like twelve or thirty seconds left, like he might be the 265 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,279 player most likely to do that. If there's a way, though, to 266 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:29,720 just get guys to stop complaining so frequently, to where sometimes I actively wonder 267 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,279 for someone like a Luca don chich or even at points in his career Lebron 268 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:34,720 James, where it's like, are you just trying to figure out a way 269 00:16:34,759 --> 00:16:37,480 to not get back on defense and hide the fact that you're not trying to 270 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:41,480 run up and down the floor right now? That shit bothers me. But 271 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,120 I don't think we can get to one of the ref should be allowed to 272 00:16:44,799 --> 00:16:48,240 talk to players. Yeah, there's I think it's stupid. There is just 273 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:53,399 something kind of icky about, like weirdly paternalistic about you're not allowed to speak 274 00:16:53,399 --> 00:16:56,240 to the authority figure at all, right, Like that's that's kind of I 275 00:16:56,279 --> 00:17:00,240 don't know how if I like the look of that, but I just I 276 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:08,799 don't know. I feel like the amount of like aggrieved outbursts is at an 277 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:14,200 all time high, and it's almost like everyone is taking the Chris Paul thing 278 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:18,480 to the furthest extreme, where if you just complain or talk to the ref 279 00:17:18,519 --> 00:17:22,640 about every single call, you sort of and Draymond does this too, where 280 00:17:22,759 --> 00:17:27,880 like you just automatically get more rope and you and like your high points of 281 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,200 being aggrieved, like you just get away with more. It's almost like you 282 00:17:33,279 --> 00:17:36,480 know there's holding on every play in the NFL, or like how the Pistons 283 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,440 years ago would just foul on every play because they can't call them all. 284 00:17:38,519 --> 00:17:41,720 There's like a volume approach to it, and I hate that. I don't 285 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:47,039 like the especially when it's just so obvious that you know the player is wrong. 286 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,039 But I don't know how you, especially in the heated competition, how 287 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,160 you make it so guys just don't talk. It's like it just seems almost 288 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,079 impossible. Yeah, i'd be to onely with you there. Let's get to 289 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,359 this next one. This is interesting. Player. Sorry, if you fall 290 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,039 down, you aren't eligible to draw a foul unless it's unless it's a flagrant 291 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,319 that's something, or that's stupid, that's stupid because I don't understand, like 292 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,799 what so a charge like can you not can it not be a drawn foul 293 00:18:12,599 --> 00:18:15,440 if you get unless you fall over on a charge, And then what if 294 00:18:15,519 --> 00:18:18,799 like you're off balance and you get knocked down by a common foul, that's 295 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:25,079 not a foul unless someone is excessively and unnecessarily to use the rulebook, like 296 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:29,640 hitting you in the face or that's that's I'm not sure what we're going for. 297 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,799 So so I'll let you know if that's stupid. I think we're going 298 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,680 forward trying to figure out a way to like enforced monitor just completely abolished flopping. 299 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,880 Yeah, it would be my guest here, And so I'm gonna say 300 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,480 that's stupid, and I think that there should just be harsher penalties and more 301 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,240 consistency with which it's enforced for flopping. And like I like the no call 302 00:18:51,319 --> 00:18:53,359 when there's a flop rather than like stopping action and calling a foul for flop. 303 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,359 Let the play unfold and then give free throws to the team or maybe 304 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:02,400 give them double possession or just something wild. Because flopping is so like it 305 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:06,000 sometimes yeah it's funny, Like I still I won't go back and watch, 306 00:19:06,079 --> 00:19:08,119 but like that mark is smart Dolphin Mash. Have you ever seen it? 307 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,839 It's just great, one of just the best treasures on the internet. So 308 00:19:12,039 --> 00:19:15,799 I think that's stupid. If you want to figure out a way to stop 309 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,640 flopping, like, let's just make the penalties for it harsher and actively enforced 310 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:26,319 on a more consistent basis. So again to invoke soccer, because I just 311 00:19:26,519 --> 00:19:30,759 I'm convinced that because soccer is so much older and has worked through all these 312 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:33,160 problems, like a hundred years before basketball has, that a lot of the 313 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,279 solutions are there. If there's a like a foul in soccer, a lot 314 00:19:37,279 --> 00:19:40,799 of times the referees will just let the team that possesses the ball play on 315 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,720 and just if they have an advantage, they get to exploit that advantage somehow, 316 00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:47,759 and then you know, you'll have a stoppage later where there'll be a 317 00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:49,599 free kick or whatever. I don't know how you do that in basketball, 318 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,079 but it's the same thing you're talking about. It's the no call, like 319 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:57,160 if if the team, you know, if the offensive players fouled and or 320 00:19:57,519 --> 00:20:00,960 just it's hard to incorporate it with ops, but basically, if you have 321 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,000 an advantage, you should be allowed to sort of exploit that until the sort 322 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,839 of chance is over and then you can just call the foul or whatever. 323 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:14,880 This is another foul based one. All intentional fouls should be considered take fouls 324 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,960 stupid or something that's stupid, I think, because like I know people don't 325 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,279 like to watch it, but there is something to extending the game and maybe 326 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,799 trying to spur a comeback and strategy when you're getting into crunch time and especially 327 00:20:29,839 --> 00:20:33,319 when you're trailing. Would you want to see something like this if it's the 328 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,960 team that's in the lead and they're still just trying to like mess with the 329 00:20:37,079 --> 00:20:41,759 possession battle or knowing that the player X is just such a bad for like 330 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:42,839 Ben Simmons for example, Like if there's a way to put him at the 331 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:48,079 fouling, you just know that that offensive possession is going to be submarine for 332 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,119 the team. Like maybe you could look at it that way, but I 333 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:56,079 do think there's a place for deliberate fouling, especially later in games. Yeah, 334 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,079 I don't know, I think it's stupid for that exact reason. You 335 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,240 got to give the team that's behind like something it can do. You know, 336 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,920 It's just it's the only tool you have at your disposal. If there's 337 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,480 not enough time on the clock and you're down to possessions, you just have 338 00:21:07,559 --> 00:21:11,359 to create more possessions by fouling. The other thing is like the league has 339 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:17,839 sort of done some of this with into like hacka players type stuff, because 340 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,640 now you know you can only get away with that up to a certain point 341 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,599 in the clock. Now I can't remember what that what the cutoff is, 342 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,720 And that seems fine, but like you're just taking away a tool for the 343 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:30,279 team. You take the drama out of the game. If the team that's 344 00:21:30,319 --> 00:21:36,039 behind is doubly penalized for fouling intentionally, so I can't get with that one. 345 00:21:36,319 --> 00:21:40,559 Would you be in favor of them allowing away from the ball fouls later 346 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,400 in games because would it have to increase the amount of thought that goes behind 347 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,160 who you're putting on the court in crunch time or is that just is that 348 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:53,359 stupid? Well No, I kind of like the idea of if you're Dwight 349 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,920 Howard or whatever, and you're valuable to your team, but there's this one 350 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,519 thing you can't do, you know, It's not like the guy like the 351 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:06,640 five to eleven point guard gets some special rule that you know negates his height 352 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,960 disadvantage, like Howard you know, and whoever, whoever Steven Adams can't shoot 353 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,720 free throws, like that's part of your makeup. If a team is not 354 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,759 trying to strategically exploit that, like, that's on them. I think I 355 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,319 think there is. It's almost like sporting. It's like the right way to 356 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:26,079 operate. If a player can't do a thing that you should be allowed to 357 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,920 capitalize on that. This one, this one is, Oh would you say? 358 00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:33,599 I said go ahead? I couldn't remember who was up. Oh yeah, 359 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,039 I think it's me, So let's go. This one is, this 360 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,440 is I'm glad that you have to take this one's first free throw should not 361 00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:42,839 be shot in the moment. They should be tallied up and then shot all 362 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,359 at once at the end of each quarter to add pressure. I did not 363 00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:55,200 wear shout out Real Seer of twenty two nineteen. So what's let's so, 364 00:22:55,359 --> 00:23:00,559 what do you accomplish with this? You? You won? You speed the 365 00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:04,599 game up in the actual like non free throw bananza portion of each quarter. 366 00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:11,279 I guess because you're not stopping. But what happens when like you'd like to 367 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,599 play it stopped because of the you know what I mean, Like you're just 368 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,359 a ye, fould you just inbounded? I guess right away. But then 369 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,279 the other thing is there's levelops. The possession still dies, is what you're 370 00:23:21,279 --> 00:23:23,200 saying, and then you just you move on to the next like do you 371 00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:27,960 so the other team still gets possession after committing the foul? That maybe I'm 372 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:33,119 just like getting too old and can't envision that dramatic of a change. Well, 373 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,079 that's not even the main reason for me that this is stupid. That 374 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,400 there's a couple other ones. One is like guys need to rest during free 375 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,039 throws, Like that's that's a huge factor. Is like you know, all 376 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,400 these stoppages are what allow the best players in the league to play thirty five 377 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:51,720 forty minutes, And if you don't have these stoppages for free throws, you're 378 00:23:51,759 --> 00:23:55,200 just gonna have the best players probably off the floor a lot more. So 379 00:23:55,319 --> 00:23:57,759 that's bad for the product. The other thing is like if it's if it's 380 00:23:57,799 --> 00:24:02,039 televised, so then do you tune in at the end of each quarter to 381 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,400 watch like twenty five free throws being shot. That's not interesting. And then 382 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,559 it's not the same player who's shooting them either, and so like you have 383 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,160 to cycle through like, oh, that's so boring. If you're in the 384 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,640 arena, you have to watch this. And the main thing is like you 385 00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:21,200 turn the end of the fourth the end of the game into a free throw 386 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:25,200 contest. That's like what it becomes, you know, and you you lose 387 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:29,359 the drama of oh my god, this guy got fouled with his team down 388 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,200 one and there's three tenths of the second left. He can tie or win 389 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:36,599 the game at the line. You lose that. Yeah, I don't know 390 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:41,359 that. I love I love the ambition of this suggestion, but it is 391 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,680 stupid. I'll put by the way, is it like the anti elim ending 392 00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:51,319 whatever it is, Well, if the elimending is designed to always end on 393 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,920 a game winner, this is the opposite. Yeah, free throws, because 394 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,640 then you'd have a team get mathematically eliminated, like if they were down by 395 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,359 seven points but they only had five free throws left to shoot, we just 396 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,000 stopped. How do you you couldn't, well, you couldn't implement both obviously, 397 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,880 like that. I couldn't. No, no, no, you could 398 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:14,359 if they're like antithetical, you couldn't have both, all right, Moving on 399 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:19,079 to non free throw based questions, the NBA should adopt the international rules allowing 400 00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:22,880 players to touch the ball as soon as it hits the rim, so offensive 401 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,440 boltending is allowed. That is absolutely positively fucking something. Inject this into my 402 00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:30,839 veins. I don't even have it. Just that would make the game more 403 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,519 entertaining and make blocks more fun and just like you know what, DeAndre, 404 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,680 and like maybe you don't take the little jump hook in transition, like maybe 405 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,480 you go up and try and finish with force around the rim. The other 406 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:45,880 thing that's good is like it does put like bigs are devalued, right like 407 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:51,240 conventional like big strong centers or devalued. Like suddenly if you're just the tallest 408 00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:53,920 guy out there and you can carve out space and you're allowed to just tip 409 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,640 in everything in the cylinder, like that guy is more valuable so you have 410 00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:02,720 just a more diverse then suddenly everybody, every team's not looking for the same 411 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:06,119 type of player, Like there's value in a different kind of player that is 412 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,240 currently like centers. Just it's this the oldest song in the world right now, 413 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,519 just there's no there's no value unless you're an elite s facer or a 414 00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:17,759 switch defender. Now I don't know, Hassan Whiteside's back in the league all 415 00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:19,640 of a sudden because he's just tall and huge and has long arms and can 416 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:27,880 offensively goaltend. I mean that's something. This next one is in arena music 417 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,599 and sound effects should not be allowed during play. That's something or that's stupid. 418 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,880 Is this like like the town in foot Loose where there's no dancing alostic's 419 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,799 illegal? Uh, this feels this feels Puritans. This isn't hill that I 420 00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:45,640 think the athletics Dave before has noted on where I believe I don't want to 421 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,599 miss speak on his behalf that he does not like he doesn't like having an 422 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,519 in arena music. He likes hearing just the that they tried that, like 423 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,319 they've tried it before, Like you rather hear the sounds of the game. 424 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:02,119 So this is kind of something. And I think, like, if you're 425 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,920 watching the game on TV, it's fine because you have commentary, you have 426 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,480 ad reads happening, you have all this other stuff that's ancillary to the game. 427 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:15,319 That's like a value add So I don't need I don't need you know, 428 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:22,920 seventeen different like five ten seconds songs being played or you know, artificial 429 00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:25,960 pumped in noise chance like that type of thing. I could do without that. 430 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:29,279 But if you're in the arena, I don't know, man, like 431 00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:33,559 it's supposed to be like this big loud experience all these teams like sell the 432 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,720 you know, it's a great time to come down here. And there's also 433 00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:40,240 basketball being played if you want to watch that cool Like otherwise, here's the 434 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,799 halftime show and all the T shirt cannon and all that stuff. It's halfway 435 00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:48,400 to something because I get it, like it is obnoxious, you know, 436 00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:52,519 like tight game down the stretch of like this stupid like you know, charge 437 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,839 chant or whatever starts to happen. I don't need that. I would also 438 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,839 say that I know it might be cool and you could probably pick it up 439 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,839 on television of course, or you're sitting closer to hear players and coaches talking, 440 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,960 but you're not gonna get that same experience if you're up in the upper 441 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,480 decks or even just like further away. And so the thing that you could 442 00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:15,960 look at is like there's gotta be the like we we know there's the tech. 443 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,279 I'm not saying mic up every player, but use directional mics or something, 444 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,720 and then you can cut up sounds of the game to play them in 445 00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:25,839 the arena and maybe go back like during sort of those game breaks instead of 446 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,079 watching like the T Shirt toss. If you're looking for sort of a different 447 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,000 feel or more of a technical like experience, I would rather that than just 448 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:37,799 get rid of like the ambiance altogether. It's not because I love the music, 449 00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:41,119 but like it's cool hearing fans chant and like you're not or is there 450 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,119 just gonna be a defense chant without like that music playing, or the directive 451 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,799 on the or is it gonna be a silent directive on like the jump Botron. 452 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,160 It would just be too too awkward for me, And so I it's 453 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,599 kind of something I get, like trying to change up the experience, but 454 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,119 it's also I think it's like stupid. I'm sure I'm stealing this idea, 455 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,440 but I can't remember who it comes from, so sorry, but I think 456 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:11,200 and the NBA would just like fold before it ever agreed to do this. 457 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,559 But there should be an option, just say like on leak paths where it's 458 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,039 like there's this tier of subscription level where you can pay ten thousand dollars, 459 00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:23,680 are like some insane number one hundred thousand dollars and you get what you're talking 460 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,039 about, like full micd up everything. I don't know how you do it 461 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,640 with like giving away strategic secrets, but I would love to know, like 462 00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:38,319 what I don't know. John Morant is saying to just to like to Alex 463 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,039 Caruso as he's dribbling the ball up, just like I'm gonna fucking wreck you, 464 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,240 Just like just to hear the real trash talk, like the conversations, 465 00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:49,640 like all that stuff. I think they're like, I don't know what the 466 00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:53,079 cost of that would be, like if if it were even semi realistic, 467 00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:56,079 which is not, but can you imagine how entertaining it would be if you 468 00:29:56,119 --> 00:30:02,799 could just hear the strategy talk, the shit talking, the like just all 469 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,640 of the all of the on court stuff would be just the best. But 470 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,319 the league would someone would say a horrible thing in like the first quarter of 471 00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:12,480 the first game, and the league would just not ever be allowed to do. 472 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:19,480 That's a good point too. Let's see, uh, bank shots are 473 00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:29,359 cooler than swishes? Discuss h I think that's like something it's like deliberate bang 474 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,200 shots. It feels like there's more of a a scrap and skill to like 475 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,920 with Tim Duncan could do for sure, So I'm gonna say that's something. 476 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,200 But the fact that I guess they can both be accidental, but like accidental 477 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,799 swishes are cooler than like the the you know straight away above the break three 478 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,480 point bang shot, and so I just I don't know, there's more like 479 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,599 who calls how how often does someone call swish like the middle like someone might 480 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,599 call bank is more like gonna called bank in the middle of the game. 481 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000 So I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with that. I think there's more of a 482 00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:04,680 there's there's more of a craft to it, and like, look if you 483 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,839 could bank in a shot from the corner, even if it's actually that's obviously 484 00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:11,400 accidental, but that that's like that's cooler receive than just like, oh, 485 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,839 another switch from the corner. Yeah, I think it's something with qualifiers. 486 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,160 Tim Duncan for sure, Scottie Pippen used to bank them in from really far, 487 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,039 And I do also really like when they slow it down and they'll show 488 00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:27,720 you like on a like a I don't know, a small guard making a 489 00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:32,240 layup where the he banks it in, but it's like all the way up 490 00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:34,000 at the top of the board, you'd had to like hook it over somebody, 491 00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:37,960 and it's a really like difficult intentional close range bank. I like those 492 00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:44,079 those are good. Who's the best bank shot shooter in the league right now? 493 00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:48,000 You know the answer to every Who's the best x x x x shooter 494 00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:52,319 in the league right now is Steph, So it's probably stuff fair enough. 495 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:56,839 Uh, the NBA should reinstitute the hand check. That's something or that's stupid, 496 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:05,440 that's stupid offensive edom and like talented scorers running around unobstructed is like the 497 00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:08,920 reason that the product right now is a thousand times more entertaining and skill based 498 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,359 than it was. And like even three zero four when just teams were scoring 499 00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:20,200 eighty five points a game in playoff games. Yeah, I think this, 500 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,000 Like I get it. You want like defense to matter more, I guess 501 00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:27,599 or something. But like the NBA is still a product that needs to be 502 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,480 sold. Like it's so easy to forget that, and this is a more 503 00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:34,759 marketable product when guys can run around and drive to the basket and shoot, 504 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,799 and like that's just that's just better to look at. So I'm going stupid 505 00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:40,519 on that one. I'm going stupid as well, basically for all the reasons 506 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:45,759 that you just said. Yeah, nobody's ever like romanticized. God do you 507 00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:50,880 remember when you know, Tracy McGrady and the Magic outdueled somebody and he had 508 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,119 thirty two points in the Orlandos scored seventy nine in the game and one by 509 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,640 four, Like, that's just that sucks, nobody likes. And I do 510 00:32:55,759 --> 00:32:59,839 wonder if, just like the way that offenses are run now, with the 511 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,839 reliance or the embrace, all of three point shooting would even just I think 512 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,480 hand checking would still matter. But like, what is the consequence of reinstituting 513 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,359 hand checking right now? Is it? You know, more players just pulling 514 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,559 up from just inside the timeline? Yeah? Do we want that? Well? 515 00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:20,519 I kind of want that. But who's the best defender in which defensive 516 00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:22,799 player benefits most off hand checking is legal? And why is it? PJA 517 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,480 Tucker? Oh you think it's PJ Tucker? Really? I don't know if 518 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,559 he can just hold you and you can't go around him. I mean, 519 00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:32,240 he sort of does that already, but I guess that'd be a good pick, 520 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,160 but like, I don't know, I don't I don't have an answer 521 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,519 to that one. I don't know who think who just I mean Drew Holiday 522 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:40,839 would probably be even would basically make the really good defenders even better because they 523 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,119 already sort of part of being a great perimeter defender is like getting away with 524 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,759 some of it still. So if you just could do it today and we 525 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,680 had a hand checking and flopping from Marcus Smart, like, I don't know 526 00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:52,759 that I'd ever be able to watch the Celtics again. He'd foulow every team 527 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,720 out in like the second quarter. You touch him, you touch him, 528 00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,839 he just like like he's, you know, been catapulted. This is our 529 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,480 last one. Every team having new jerseys every year will have negative effects on 530 00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:10,920 the league in the long run. Yeah, I think, because I think 531 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:17,039 we're already sort of seeing the negative effects because they're so uninventive for the most 532 00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:24,000 part that we literally slobber when they bring these retro jerseys back, like go 533 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:29,159 to the throwbacks and like they are. There's an appreciation for that nostalgia. 534 00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:31,400 But like, if you're gonna have so many new new jerseys, it dilutes 535 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,440 just what the jerseys actually mean. How many you could remember, how many 536 00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:39,320 become staples? And then also when the designs, I think when all these 537 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,800 jerseys are released, there's like more than half of them are just overwhelmingly blah 538 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,000 and I'm talking to you, Nick, but just so just like I'd like 539 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:55,039 to see fewer alternates themed jerseys and like let's focus more on being like creative 540 00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:00,280 with them or something that's different in something that you're actually going to remember maybe 541 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,239 want to make a staple. And then they also kind of just like disappear. 542 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,199 Like we've seen different iterations of the Miami Vice jerseys, Like there's like, 543 00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:09,519 is anything ever gonna beat? Like what was the best they've They've had 544 00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:12,880 a few good ones, so like that's probably a bad example, but it's 545 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,880 like, let's bring back the was that the baby blue Miami Vice jersey was 546 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,239 like what was the one? I was just oh yeah, like the pink 547 00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:22,639 there's a pink black and like powder blue? Those are sweet? And have 548 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,559 they worn those in the last like year or two? I don't I can't 549 00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:30,559 remember. I don't think so, but like a letter this year. First 550 00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:34,119 of all, I actually I like that just because I thought that was it 551 00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:37,960 looked like a Ransom note, like we literally just underscored and maybe we're idiots. 552 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,159 We just underscored the entire one. We're like, well, have they 553 00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:43,239 worn that one in the last two years? What season was that? And 554 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,280 so I get having alternates, like do you have to change them up every 555 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,159 year? Can you have like can we get it to where it's okay, 556 00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:53,000 you have your home, your away, there's the staple alternate and then you 557 00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:57,559 can either have like you try out a different alternate or there's a throwback and 558 00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,960 then that's just it. Yeah, it's like a it's a it's a constant. 559 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,639 It's a symptom of like the more is more thing where it used to 560 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,760 be. Remember how big a deal it used to be when a team changed 561 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,719 its jerseys or like I can I know where I was and the first person 562 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,800 I talked to when the Warriors went to the god awful like burnt orange and 563 00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:21,440 you know, Thunder themed jerseys and everybody was like, these are terrible, 564 00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:24,639 and then like eight years later they changed them finally. But it used to 565 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,559 be a big deal, and it feels like they're just try and stuff now 566 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,079 and some of them are cool, Like I saw the Blazers last night, 567 00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:37,280 they had the black and green jerseys and it doesn't look anything like the Blazers, 568 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,440 and it was kind of like jarring, but like, will we see 569 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,239 those? I'm like, I don't remember seeing those before. I'm sure they 570 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,280 wore them a couple of times. It's just like it'd be cool if when 571 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,360 a team did bust out an alternate it was it was like a big deal 572 00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:54,880 and instead of just every team is just you know, has seventeen different iterations 573 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,239 to wear this year, and like they can sometimes look like, uh, 574 00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:02,320 like from different franchises where it's like okay, Celtics, like great, you 575 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,760 look like the SuperSonics right, or the colors are totally backwards, and it's 576 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:12,679 it's like when did the Grizzlies become like the Pittsburgh Steelers or like what it 577 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,159 just like it doesn't make any sense sometimes. And it's also where it feels 578 00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:19,079 like other teams they actually won't change them up that much. They like try 579 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:22,679 to find different excuses to roll out the same iteration of their their alternates. 580 00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:28,679 Where it's like, so to use the Knicks as an example, like we're 581 00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:30,920 always just know like, oh, these city edition jerseys, they're gonna say 582 00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:34,599 like, oh, here's what the meaning is behind this. But they're always 583 00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:36,960 just gonna be all black, and like, doctor, what we're gonna do 584 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:39,679 for that? So you so you get creative in ways to like sort of 585 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,800 spin it, but like the actual design is not all that creative. I 586 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,159 was just gonna say, I do kind of like the Warriors new ones that 587 00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:51,639 they've been wearing. They wore them last night, but it's like those are 588 00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:53,800 just all black too. It's just like that's always the movement. It's not 589 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,320 that cool. Oh, I have one more I would like to add this, 590 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,519 since this is gonna end up being its own episode. This was fun. 591 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:06,039 I enjoyed it. That's something or that's stupid. The NBA should move 592 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,639 free agency ahead of the draft, Okay, so what happens then, because 593 00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:15,719 then so then I have to talk it out. So then you're drafting more 594 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,679 you have a better idea of what you need type of thing, or you 595 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:29,840 have a better idea. I think I think that's something just because then you 596 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,280 know what your team is going into the draft, and you might be more 597 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,599 apt to make draft night trades and that would be more exciting. So I 598 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:42,360 could see the value add there. I don't know what else do you get 599 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,559 out of that. I guess I'm going something, what do you think? 600 00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:51,280 I think it's stupid because I kind of like the idea of you're making. 601 00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:54,559 I don't want to see teams sort of inform their draft picks based on what 602 00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:58,400 they've done in free agency, and I think we'd see more of that from 603 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,079 teams that don't know how to run their francisse. I don't think it would 604 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:04,159 be at the scale of Oh, the fucking Magic wouldn't have taken Pablo ban 605 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,639 Caro because they were able to resign Bull Bull this summer, Like, they 606 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:13,199 wouldn't be on that that type of the scale. But I like the idea 607 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,239 of having that, Like, Oh, teams are sort of maneuvering inside the 608 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:22,599 old league calendar in anticipation of free agency, and there's that unknowness to what 609 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:28,000 should make free agency more eventful. But given the way that free agency is 610 00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:32,280 gone, it's sort of just like that might even make free agency less entertaining 611 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,039 if it's happening before the draft now so, and there could just be changes 612 00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:39,960 the free agency in general and the new collective bargaining agreement. But I get 613 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,199 it from a team building perspective of Oh, you have a better idea if 614 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,159 you're looking at taking flyers, and if you guarantee me that draft night trades 615 00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:55,000 then would be more just I guess, like more frequent. I suppose that 616 00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:59,519 supports that, But then we get all the dumb ass, like awkward pictures 617 00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:01,320 of more of those, like the players wearing like the hat of the team 618 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,000 that drafted them, and it's so I guess you reset then though the league 619 00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:10,320 calendar at that point, and so it's like, would would they actually trade 620 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,480 be official immediately? Then it's like, how would that work? It seems 621 00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:16,400 like right now the way it's set up seems to sort of make sense. 622 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,960 And then what you're also kind of doing is how does that work with because 623 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,920 trades are happening after the draft, I guess that stays the same where it's 624 00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:28,039 they're trading that. No, you're still gonna have the players being in the 625 00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:30,639 wrong team's hats because you're gonna want to trade that player as an actual salary 626 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,559 still so that you can maybe also trade the upcoming first round pick. I 627 00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:39,639 kind of like the mysterity of oh, we're going through the draft first. 628 00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:44,239 Does this impact free agency at all? Does not impact free agency at all, 629 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,239 so I guess like it could make it easier for you to pick for 630 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:52,199 other teams and facilitate trades that way if you went through free agency first. 631 00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:57,199 But I also think like for certain teams that are on the fringes, like 632 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,320 seeing who falls to you might actually they be and who you pick up, 633 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,039 like that might actually be more valuable to how you go about your off season, 634 00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,039 including the free agency process. Yeah, I'm changing my answer. I 635 00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,599 was trying to be positive and call it something. I feel like you tricked 636 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,599 me. It's stupid. And the other reason is so you're doing because the 637 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,119 draft, like the finals end and then the draft is like bang, it's 638 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,280 right there, So then you're doing free agent negotiations while like, however, 639 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,719 many teams are still in the conference you know semis and the conference finals in 640 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,239 the finals, like you got to end it and then have there's there's really 641 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,960 no realistic way to have free agent negotiations when some large percentage of the league 642 00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:39,440 is like still actually playing. And then and then also, what are we 643 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,719 going to do in July if there's a free agencies over before the draft, 644 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,800 like we got nothing to do? This is a job security question. I 645 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,320 think you would probably push back the draft would be my guess. No, 646 00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:52,239 this in my hypothetical, it stays exactly where it is, and that's why 647 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,639 it's a bad Well, the other thing, it's just like, well, 648 00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:57,199 how far would you even push it back? Because like free agency can have 649 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,639 like this, we all know like ninety percent of the move seems like they're 650 00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:05,079 reported before freeingcy even starts. So I guess free agency has been truncated a 651 00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:07,239 little bit. But it's like there is a trickle effective things, and like 652 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,559 if teams are like so, I like, would that make it so free 653 00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:15,239 ency also has to be done now by let's say July bye bye July first, 654 00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:17,840 like it's like like it's just over. And then you're right, like 655 00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:21,480 even if you're pushing back the draft, it's like, oh, we lost 656 00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:25,639 like two weeks of interesting shit, right, And then also, how does 657 00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:30,079 that impact summer league because like you need those teams to be like are you 658 00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:31,880 pushing back summer league? Are we just rushing the process for these guys who 659 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:37,159 are already probably being like shell shocked by like the you know, the freneticness 660 00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:39,119 of of an NBA schedule. So it's all of a sudden, like you're 661 00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:45,159 shuttling them off to summer league even even more quickly or we yo, so 662 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,920 that that would be another thing to consider it. Yeah, and if I'm 663 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,519 a rookie too, like this matters less than me for free agents, but 664 00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:52,639 if I'm a rookie, I want as much time to like get to where 665 00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,599 I'm gonna be and get acclimated as I can. So I want the draft 666 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,519 first, just so I can. I mean, like that's such a crazy, 667 00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:04,760 like you know, chaotic time I imagine for especially the top handful of 668 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,960 picks, like just pushing that back farther. So the lag time between you 669 00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:13,679 got picked by a team and you're playing Opening Night like shrinks. I feel 670 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,039 like that's probably a negative too. And also you if people are worried about 671 00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:22,039 how broadcasts missed the plot of games, you think if teams go through free 672 00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:23,719 agency first, like ESPN's not only gonna be talking about like, oh, 673 00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:29,320 you know, the Charlotte Hornet's just overpaid for Gordon Hayward again, and like 674 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,880 that's gonna be the talking more for them instead of focusing on the draft pick 675 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,840 and the impact that that they're gonna have. Like you talk about missing the 676 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,719 plot, it's gonna be like, oh, is lebron just signed with this 677 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,639 team to play with Bronnie? Is he gonna want them to keep who they 678 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,239 just selected at number twelve or whatever it is? So you want to, 679 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,880 like, you want the broadcast, the league, the partners, the analysts 680 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,760 to focus on what's actually happening. Yeah, we're not talking as much now 681 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,800 about oh, like this team. Yeah they might mention the cap space they 682 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,320 have going this summer, but it's not you know, this year, we're 683 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,079 not going to talk about like who's gonna be signing? Uh yeah, Gary 684 00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:05,800 Trent Junior. If like that's not gonna be like that because he opted for 685 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,920 Fred van Fleet because he opted out of his contract. Or is this team 686 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,840 a suitor for Kyrie Irving even though they just drafted X. It would be 687 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,599 more along the lines of, like, well, how does he fit with 688 00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:16,039 Kyrie Irving? Let's have a five minute discussion on Kyrie Irving? So I 689 00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:21,239 think it's stupid. Yeah, we agree. I came around. Are you 690 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,599 ready to That's it? Unless you have anything else you want to get off 691 00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:25,440 your chest here. This was a very This isn't gonna all be put out 692 00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:29,519 in the sub hour thirty minute like we did like eighty five minutes. It 693 00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:34,760 felt like very frenetic or hectic in a refreshing way. I agree. I 694 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,119 think that worked. Well. We'll have to do it again. Less preparation 695 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,079 is better. It turns out all right, Well, I'm gonna take us 696 00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:43,079 out. You're ready for me to take us out? I think we've done 697 00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:45,320 all the damage we can do. Yeah, we're I'm ready to. I'm 698 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:50,360 ready to buy you taking us out. I wouldn't sell you. I'm ready 699 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,360 to. I'm ready to sell me. Remembering all the things I usually say. 700 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:58,079 But anyway, thank you everybody for listening. Uh please, as Dan 701 00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:00,719 said at the top, remember to rate, review, subscribe, get all 702 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,719 those knicks down votes out of there. I don't know how you do that, 703 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,840 but give like six star reviews on Apple. That'd be great. Tell 704 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,599 your friends. Word of mouth still helps. Make sure if you are not 705 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,239 following us or the pod on socials to rectify that, we if you're watching 706 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,199 us on YouTube, they are down there in your bottom right corner. Otherwise, 707 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,519 we are at Hardwood Knox on Twitter, at Hardwood Underscore Knox on Instagram, 708 00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:28,119 Hardwood Knox on TikTok, and just you know, search Hardwood knocks wherever, 709 00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:30,679 and subscribe wherever it allows you to do that, as we do every 710 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,800 time. I would like to give a shout out on Dan's behalf and also 711 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,679 sort of mind to the one and only Frank Millikina, and also apologize to 712 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,440 Jared Allen, who got no mentions at all in this whole pot