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So, what's your favorite track on
an album? Side two? I don't

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have a favorite track. I love. I still think that it was one

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of the best engineered albums out there. You are about to be trampled underfoot,

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just the way Side two just seamlessly
flows from beginning to end, I

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mean, and all of these tunes
were recorded at different times in maybe in

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the same studio, maybe not,
but just different people, different times,

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and then they just blended it together
seamlessly, and I really dig it well,

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they always have. They They were
very resentful, especially John Lennon of

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Side two of Abbey Road, because
it was Paul McCartney's idea to stitch together

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this whole epic sort of you know, song after soong and whatnot, like

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a rock opera as it were,
and John just wanted to do straight up

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rock and roll. But um,
you know, they went with Paul's thing

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because Paul always had the ideas.
A lot of people don't consider that,

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yeah, but historically these guys,
yeah, John Lennon said he became psychedelic

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before Paul. But Paul was experimenting
with sound loops and stuff way before John

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was doing that. So you know, not to discredit John Lennon was badass,

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of course, but Paul McCartney was
like, on it, man,

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you know so yeah, and just
that it all blended together so well.

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Different tempos, different rhythms, different
instruments, it all just blended together so

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well that I think it would have
been wrong to release it any other way.

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It just would not have had the
same impact that, you know,

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because I mean, you have the
definite track, per track, per track

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per track. On side one,
you know, you can put you can

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put the needle down anywhere on side
one and listen to a song and then

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pick up the needle. But side
two you have to start at the beginning

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and listen from beginning to end.
I mean, I just can't imagine listening

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to it any other way. Funny
fact about the cover, they couldn't decide

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on how the cover would be,
and one day they just said, you

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know, it was time to shoot
something and said, well, we'll just

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walk across the street and take a
picture like that and that'll be the cover.

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Because at that point they were feeling
the pressures of, you know,

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the logistics side of things being in
a big, famous, powerful rock and

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roll band, and it was coming
to an end, as you know as

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we know. So they went out, took a few walks across the Abbey

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Road and I don't know whether they
called it Abbey Road prior or afterwards,

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but I do know that, Um, they did that. They snapped the

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picture, the classic one we all
know, and it became the cover,

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which I think. You know,
sometimes forcing the creativity is not is necessary

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a lot of times, but forcing
creativity sometimes you should go with the flow

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of what you're doing and not double
think yourself. They went walked across.

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It's an iconic image and it is, yeah, I think so. And

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another thing, the way the way
they did that, they were walking with

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a certain people read into it.
They said it wasn't true, but they

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people read into it. So in
that picture of them walking across the abbey

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Road, and it was from the
street across going back to Abbey Road if

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you remember right, um, you
have George Harrison dressed in jeans, you

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know, and all that, and
they said that he resembled or he was

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iconic to or iconic too. It
was sort of like, uh, the

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what would you call it? Um? Well, the story the story that

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I heard at the time, they
said it was the grave Digger, the

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grave digger. Are you are you
going? Is that where you were going?

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That's exactly where I was going.
Okay. Yeah, John Lennon is

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dressed like a preacher. M Um, God, I'm trying to remember what

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they said. Ringo was dressed as
he was, the driver, the them,

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the mortuary guy, the what what's
his name? The undertaker, the

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undertaker okay, and then Paul being
barefoot, being the dead guy, being

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the dead guy. Yeah, I
remember that, Paul said in a subsequent

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interview, when he was pressed on
the issue, he said, you know,

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people say this, people say that, and I think people Paul did

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that a lot and still does it
a lot, and and frankly he says,

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sometimes, you know, I run
into people they know our story better

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than I do because it's been said
so many times. But he said,

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people, you know, think too
much of it. I just it was.

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He says, it was a hot
day, so I walked across barefoot

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because it was kind of hot.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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So it's like, you can't really
he tries to create more controversy than right.

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Well, but that wasn't the only
time that that had happened, you

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know, Um, if you remember
the cover of the the album Help,

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where they're all standing there in semaphore
flags and you ask people, well,

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what is that. The people who
know that there is semaphore will tell you,

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oh, well, they're spelling out
help, and that's not what it

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spells out. That. They had
them take a photo spelling out the word

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help in semaphore, but when it
came time to do the shot, they

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said it just didn't look good,
it didn't look right. So they decided

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to go ahead and just, you
know, have them hold their arms in

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something that looked decent. Yeah,
but if you it just happened as it

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happened. They spelled out nvuj and
immediately people said, well that means John

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is dead, and what that means
is new vocalist unknown John. Oh,

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that's another one of them, was
another one, Yeah, and that was

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when that came out sixty five.
But I don't remember which one of them

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it was, but one of them
said in an interview that they've all been

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dead one time or another. Yeah, So that's I didn't know that one

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actually. Yeah. The one with
Rubber Soul is interesting because Rubber Soul was,

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by the way, a big shift
in the way they recorded songs and

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wrote them and stuff. But what
happened was that they took a picture and

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they all looked at it, and
I was like, yeah, you know,

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but wouldn't it be cool if it
had some sort of distortion to it?

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Oh? No, they it took. They took. So the guy

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took the picture, the photographer did, and they put it on the at

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you know, viewer that they had
back then, so they could see the

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you know, the slides on a
bigger screen. But the slide kind of

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sort of folded the sheet of you
know, the image folded a little bit

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and it elongated their face and the
Beatles said, yeah, that's what we

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want, and everybody that was there
was like, yeah, but that ain't

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Yeah, yeah, we want it
like that and things like that. Yeah,

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little things like that contributed to psychedelia
because it came out. People see

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it and they're like, oh,
I want to do that, and then

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you start seeing all these groovy So
a lot of things that the Beatles contributed

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to music that folks aren't necessarily aware
of. But that Abbey Road cover was

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probably I mean, I remember,
heck I had one. Just about everybody

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had a poster of that cover up
on the Wall. It was just just

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super super iconic, so much so
that in the it was either the late

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nineties or the early to mid two
thousands. Over in the UK, there's

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a huge anti smoking campaign going on
over there still to this day. They

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went so far as to airbrush the
cigarette out of Paul McCartney's hand on which

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album on Abbey Road. Look at
the old cover, he's he has a

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cigarette in his hand pointing down.
They are brushed it out on the new

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cover. You don't see that.
That sucks just for the content, you

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know, continuity of you know what
it was. It's like having Clint Eastwood

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in one of his spaghetti westerns and
like he's sitting there with a cigar and

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you know, the pistola and they
and they it's gone and it's gone.

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I mean soon the pistola will be
gone and he'll be holding a cone,

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you know what I'm saying, He'll
be back, a little snow cone.

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Well, we talk about the Beatles
a lot, and I know we do,

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but we'll kind of let me kind
of pull it out of there just

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a little bit here, because what
I want to try to do from now

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on, and folks, I don't
know This is an experiment, so we're

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going to see. What I want
to do once a week is try to

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come up with something that just kind
of kind of blow Elloy's mind, and

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we'll see if it does it or
not. This all started a few episodes

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back when we were talking about people
making covers of music, and we were

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talking about that song by Harry Nilson
without You, I Can't Live Yes,

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that one, and Mariah Carey did
a cover of it, and I just

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absolutely blew you away when I said
Harry Nielsen's version was a cover as well,

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that it was originally done by Bad
Finger, and you just went no,

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no, no, in no way, and you had to look it

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up here live and I thought,
well, let me. I wonder if

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I could do that again. So
I'm gonna kind of flash back to another

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episode where you and I had the
discussion about Jimmy Hendrix and Stevie Ray and

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I found a little Jimmy Hendricks tidbit. Maybe you know it, maybe you

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don't, but it's basically a quote
from Jimmy in an interview that was done

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in nineteen sixty eight and he was
asked, who do you look up to

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as a guitarist? Who do you
think is a real good guitarist? And

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he said, well, oh,
go ahead, no you know why because

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you want to know if I know
it? But but go ahead, can

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you phrase it so that and then
I try to answer, Okay, Well,

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he said that this guitarist quote is
the best guitarist around. Do you

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know who he was talking about?
So he had, Uh, he liked

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Eric Clapton a lot. Um,
it's not Eric Clapton though, No,

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Um, I know that. I'm
gonna know it when you say it,

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which is I'm gonna throw a few
hints out. This guy had a band

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back then. He was seventeen years
old, and he toured on with Jimmy

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Hendrix um Rory first his first American
tour. Was it something Gallagher Gallagher or

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no? Um, This guitarist left
that band. The band was called the

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Moving Sidewalks was it something? Uh? That band broke up not long afterwards,

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like nineteen sixty nine, early nineteen
sixty nine, and he he got

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together and formed another band that he's
still in fifty years later, that he's

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still into this day, fifty to
this day, fifty years later. You've

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not heard of the first band,
Moving Sidewalks everybody has heard of this other

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band, everybody. And the guy
was from England. No, he was

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not from England. Where was he
from the US? Okay, I'm thinking,

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I'm thinking Randy California. I think
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I may I may get that name
wrong. Remember that guy? No,

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I don't. As a matter of
fact. Yeah, I think it was

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Randy. We'll check later. Or
it was something to do with a state

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and the name. But um,
and he's super famous. Yeah, oh

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yeah, he's like very famous.
Like I will know him. You will

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know him, do I Like I
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didn't. I mean I would be
absolutely floored. I think you like him?

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Yeah, mum. Like as I
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sixty eight, and in fact,
he tells a story about Um. Let's

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see, I was seventeen years old
and on tour with Jimmy. Every night

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we would get into a motel and
we would stay at the end of the

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hall. He would stay with his
bedroom door open. He'd be in there

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listening to the first Jeff back album
and he asked me how the heck does

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Jeff do all of this, to
which I replied replied believe even Jeff is

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sitting in a room right now listening
to your album, asking asking himself,

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how the heck you do what you
do? Okay, so let's do something.

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I'm just gonna I'm gonna shoot off
what the crowd is talking, uh,

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you know, answering. And we've
got Dave Billy Gret What that's Patrick?

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Geez? Patrick's stay on topic?
Man, come on even on the

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show. Um, that's actually my
fault, but I'm including him in the

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air. Their um. Peter Ham
says Dave gotten. Snow Crusher throws out

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Buddy Guy and snow Crusher has a
he's very infused. So he's got Bill

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Billy GiB Gibbons, Um, and
he's got Texas. I don't know how.

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And then Harju says Paco, Paco, Lucio Lucia. Nope, Um,

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they're all off. Well, I
can tell you one of them is

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right, one of them is absolutely
correct. So I'm gonna go with um

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snow Crushers, Billy Gibbons. Billy
Gibbons is the right answer. From zz

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Top. He was lead guitarist for
a group called The Moving Sidewalks. He

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was seventeen and they hung out.
They toured moving sidewalks opened up for for

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Jamie Hennock's experience on their first US
tour. Well, I didn't know that,

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Daniel Harju says, low just throwing
out name snow crusher. You know

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the problem with snow crusher is that
he was He was grabbing a bunch of

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rocks and throwing it at the window. He knows that one of those pebbles

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is gonna smash that window. But
no, but he got it. But

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he got it right. You said, where's he from? And I'm watching

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it pop up and I'm trying not
to comment or make anything like that.

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But yes, it was Billy Gibbons. He is from Texas. They've gotten

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wanted to make sure that he wasn't
included in the in this the bocle,

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so he said. Peter ham was
for the without You song, he said,

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But he's absolutely right. Peter ham
was. I can't remember if he

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wrote all of the lyrics or most
of the lyrics, but he wrote he

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wrote the music, yeah, and
at least some of the lyrics to that

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song. Peter Hamm was an excellent
performer too, and doesn't get enough credit

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for some of the work he did. They're best known for some of their

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tunes bad Finger we're talking about they're
best known for some of their tunes that

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happened during that stage where everybody was
kind of trying to copy and sound like

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the Beatles. But Peter Ham was
an excellent, excellent guitarist, an excellent

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performer. I mean that that was
a kicking group. Okay, so it

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didn't blow your mind, um,
but it's you know, I really dig

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on little things like that. Who
who would have ever thought that Jimmy Hendricks

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and Billy Gibbons not only shared a
stage but toured together. Yeah, I

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didn't know that that before they created
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Well, I mean, heck,
it's a good story. He can

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always tell because Jimmy Hendricks, if
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And by the way, one time, Jimmy Hendricks and I that's that's

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a And by the way, Jimmy
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away, so he's talking about basically
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if you can go on Google and
you can look it up, you

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know, Billy Gibbons and Jimmy Hendrix
and there's a photo they're on this one

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particular page of everybody in the moving
sidewalks standing there with Jimmy Hendricks and Billy

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Gibbons and stay the right next to
him. And he had the little little

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peach fuzzy beard on. He was
seventeen years old, a little peach fuzzy

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beard. That's kind of fun.
I've got one for you. That's not

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like a shock necessarily, but it's
a little story, h within what we're

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talking about. So John Lennon was
with Yoko Ono. We all know that,

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but at this point in the story
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guys, and they were in New
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show. Frank Zappa was also in
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individual, you know. And if
you ever look into Frank Zappa for your

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folks out there, which you probably
have, but he his story is pretty

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into. His books are pretty cool. Um the biography. He's got one

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and it's like you wouldn't expect the
area and the thing. It's a great

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book. I forget the name of
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out in the desert because that's where
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like desert landscape nineteen fifties desert landscape. Usually when you watch like movies or

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stuff of fifties, it's usually hometown
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I'm saying. Environment. Well,
his book opens up in the strangest of

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circumstances, in the middle of the
desert, where he grew up with um,

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that other famous somewhat famous musician from
boy what was the name they did,

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trout Mask Replica. Um, he
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He's still around, by the way. Look up the the album trout Mask

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Replica and the singer of that where
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and so anyhow, back to I
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hotel room and Um, John Lennon
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and Zappa had no idea. The
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Zappa. So Zappa comes up and
oh, Daniel har Captain beat Yep,

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so it was Captain Beefheart and he
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for that, harju um. So, so the manager set it up and

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they say, okay, we're gonna
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and he's gonna flip when he sees
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they John Lennon knocks at his door. Frank Zappa gets up. He says,

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I don't know what I was just
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He gets up, walks over,
opens the door and it's John Lennon

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and and I don't remember the quote
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it was meant to like sort of
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hey, how are you doing?
You want to you want to stay

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standing there? You can come in
if you like. He was very nonchalant

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about it, like he could give
a hoot about And so the managers like,

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wait a second, it's John Lennon's
yeah, come in, and they

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sat down. Well, they got
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um, it was either one of
the two. Forgive me, because I'm

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paraphrasing of what I remember. It
was either going to be a Frank Zappa

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short. No, it was a
John Lennon show. So he said,

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would you like to join us on
stage? So they worked out a bit

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from one of Zappa's things, and
they agreed that any songs that they worked

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together would be titled accordingly. Right, So they went and did the show

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they recorded, Zappa was up there
and everything, and Zappa had named that

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song and it was a Zappa song
that they had worked out. And later

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the album comes out. Zappa tells
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the eighties later eighties, and he
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album comes out. I think it
was on some time in New York or

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something, and he says, not
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he took credit for writing a song
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I wasn't very happy about that.
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little situations amongst musicians, you know, and that kind of happened. So

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it's an interesting little insight into the
into their world. Zappa was definitely his

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own man. He was not impressed
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celebrity at all. Man. And
a lot of people don't realize he wasn't

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a druggie. Let's say, he
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well, he was definitely a smoker, and um, I don't know

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about alcohol. I don't think he
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uh and yet he was super psychedelic. And the last thing I'll say about

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Zappa is if you want to see
his earliest video recording, he went on

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a show back in the fifties maybe
sixties, probably early, and he's a

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young kid. He looked awkward and
he shows up on this variety show and

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he brings a bicycle with instead of
you've seen that one, yeah, with

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the drumsticks, yes, And he
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a live sort of like hitting the
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and you know, and so even
at that age, you know, he

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had to keep himself entertained living in
the lonely desert, right, so he

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had his particulars. So that would
be an interesting look. If you ever

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want to check out that that video, I think that you'll find it interesting.

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And he he one up did a
few years later when he appeared on

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the TV show The Monkeys, and
he with a sledgehammer and he played the

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car. He just basically beat the
heck out of this old car. Is

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him and Mike Nesmith. You know, Zappa did all the swinging, but

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Nesmith was there with him just kind
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and just having a good old time. It's just just a little brief,

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two minute thing. Yeah, if
you if you search Zappa on YouTube particularly,

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there's a lot of interesting content that
in retrospect back in the in the

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day, I don't think that I
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I might have watched a little thing
here and there, but looking at it

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historically, the things he was saying
and stuff, he had a particular way

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about him so very interesting. Yeah. He was definitely his own man,

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always experimenting, always recording. I
mean the guy would just jump up out

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of bed at two thirty in the
morning, go down to the studio,

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grab a guitar and put something down
on tape that was driving him up a

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tree. And it may get used
in something, it may never get used

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in anything, but he had to
get it out of his head. And

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as far as I know, his
family is still going through his recordings years

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after he passed because he just had
so many, yeah, and I mean

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recordings of gigs, concerts, studio
stuff that never saw the lighted day.

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I mean they could create album upon
album of tracks that he has just buried

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in in his archive that never came
out for one reason or another. Maybe

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he didn't think it was finished,
or it wasn't polished enough, or he

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just didn't like it. He was
the final judge on what got What of

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his has got released? Yeah,
just like Prince, he's got volumes of

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unreleased they say unreleased recordings. I
mean, yeah, he does. And

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I don't know a lot of that
stuff. I think sometimes that their wishes

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should be respected in that if they
didn't want it released, it shouldn't be.

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But other things I think maybe should
be. You know, some of

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these old sessions, especially concerts or
gigs or what have you, I'd love

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to hear them. In the early
nineties, there was this big opening up

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of the Jimi Hendrix volts throughout the
eighties and into the nineties. Incidentally,

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but in the nineties the estate was
granted, you know. I think the

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story was that they were fighting it
and it was in legal issues, and

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eventually so they proceeded to put out
a bunch of different new material that Jimi

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Hendrix had recorded but not finished,
and in many cases they brought in musicians

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to actually finished these songs. So
fans are treated to songs that are not

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that are finished after the fact,
and you know, it's not necessarily his

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best stuff, but it isn't an
insight and it's good that it's there.

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They came out with a Jimmie Hendrix
Blues album, which I thought was fantastic.

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A lot of Jimmy Hendrix spent a
lot of time or at least a

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session with his band on the BBC
Radio recording live his tracks. Their subpar.

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The quality is high as far as
the crispiness of the recording, but

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it's unpolished, and you know,
it is what it is. It was

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a live recording, so you have
a lot of that stuff out there available

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now that you didn't have access to
all throughout the seventies sixties, which is

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exciting stuff. So as far as
I think, I think it's good that

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they release it. But most people, you know, I like the fact

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that we can dig deeper into these, you know, these characters from you

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know, years gone by and explore, you know, out of out of

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a curiosity and respect, you know, yeah, yeah, and you know

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there comes a little bit there's a
little bit of a judgment call involved there

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as well, and that what did
they want to keep private? I mean,

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because these are just people, we
put them up on a pedestal,

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and yeah, they have a lot
of celebrity, but there's got to be

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something they're personal and private. They
didn't want it out. I think that

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wish should should be respected. But
then again, there are other things that

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as you say, you know that
Jimmy didn't finish that. They brought in

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other musicians to kind of finish up
and polish up or something like that.

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But you also if you look at
something like the Beatles song Free as a

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Bird, that's a good example.
Actually, that was a cassette that was

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found in Yoko found this cassette in
their recorder of John on the Piano,

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and she got a hold of George
Paul and Ringo and got them all together

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and they cleaned it up and cleaned
it and cleaned it and cleaned it because

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it was a very crappy recording,
and they released it. Oh my gosh,

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I'm trying to remember when they released
it. That wasn't the early That

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wasn't either. That was like the
early two thousands, I want to say,

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or early nineties or nineties. Oh
man, I gotta look it up

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here. The interesting thing about what
you're saying there that's a great example of

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Okay. So I bought that,
to be honest with you, because they

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came out and it's expensive because they
had double these were two set CDs or

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more and you had part one,
part two and whatever. Um, and

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I started buying them, and man, I was glued to them so bad

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because they had tracks of the Beatles
without the accompanying extra sounds. So you

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had you had John Lennon playing fricking
Uh what what what is it? Uh?

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Mother superior rorge ump the gunyah,
um, happiness is a warm gun.

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This is the warm gun. Yeah, but just on acoustic, it

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doesn't sound It sounds like the song
eventually, but it doesn't because it's just

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him on acoustic figuring out the song. That's priceless for a guitarist to listen

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to, right, it's priceless.
It's priceless to listen to him. I

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was blue, I mean I was
blown Oh that was I was blown away

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when I heard that, dude.
It was amazing. So, um boy,

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why why were we saying that there
was a reason? Oh because of

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Free as a bird. Because of
Free as a bird, We're basically what

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it was was um okay, it
was originally recorded in nineteen seventy seven seventy

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seven by John Lennon, No what, Oh, Free, Free as a

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Bird. It was just him sitting
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cassette deck and um, let's see. In nineteen ninety five, Paul McCartney

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George Harrison Ringo star asked Yoko for
any unreleased stuff that she had hanging around

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there that she thought John might like
rereleased. That they were gonna get together

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and collaborate one more time for an
anthology album. Thank goodness, they did,

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and they got Free as a Bird
and another one called Real Love,

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which they they had used in one
of John Lennon's documentaries from the eighties before.

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I don't know if you remember that
VHS cassette of Imagine. I watched

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that, dude so much that Imagine
cassette I would or VHS so much,

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dude, it was just from beginning
to end. Well, they they actually

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took that song Free as a Bird, and they made an album of it

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itself. It was a short,
a small album, wasn't a full thirty

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three, but they used the original
recording. The original nineteen seventy seven recording

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is one track and then cleaned one
cleaned up version, and then another cleaned

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up version with some guitar and bass, and then another cleaned up version,

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and finally the last version of the
whole thing is the one that was released

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to the public and put on the
anthology album. So it's actually kind of

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cool to be able to listen to
the processing they did to it, and

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if you listened, all of the
vocals done on it kind of have a

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kind of a quality to it.
Yeah, because it was an old recording.

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It was just an old, nasty
recording, but they did that with

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all of the instruments when they mixed
it and then kind of evened it out

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and smoothed it out, so you
have John's vocals with that kind of a

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waiver. That was because it was
on a cassette, yeah, which actually

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matched Beatles like and it did,
and the instruments are nice and clear,

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but all of the vocals kind of
have that wavering quality to it. Yes,

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which kind of you know it was
It was nobody. It was totally

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freaking awesome. But nobody would do
that, um other than them, I

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can't say nobody, but for the
sake of what we're talking about, honestly

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to decide to put up front messed
up, screwed up vocals like that,

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which, by the way, are
awesome, But anybody listening would say,

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we can't do anything with this,
and they created such a awesome track,

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it's like, yeah, that's that's
some heavy duty stuff. A lot of

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people were offended with it. I
loved it. Yeah, Oh I loved

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it too. Man. You got
to figure though, these people are professionals,

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and that's why professionals have jobs.
Can take something like that and make

407
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:07.519
it excellent. Yeah, you know, guys like you and me who are

408
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.719
sitting here hacking around at home on
a computer, we might be able to

409
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.320
do something a little bit with it, but not really going to be able

410
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:16.480
to run it through the specialized equipment
and software that they have, you know,

411
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:21.199
I mean, unless you're sitting on
a sixty four track theatrical mixer and

412
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:23.719
I don't know about it, you
know well to I mean, it's more

413
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.760
to do, not that it can't
be done if you if you, you

414
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:32.840
know, do mixing and recording.
It's the fact of even deciding to accept

415
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:39.360
it as possible or even worthy of
release preemptively before you even do any of

416
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:43.960
the work on it, saying we're
going to turn this mess of a cassette

417
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.000
into a beautiful and they did it, man, they did it right.

418
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:53.480
Yeah, yeah, on the same
on the flip side. Just since we're

419
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:59.159
talking kind of roundabout beetle stuff.
Another thing you should check out on the

420
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:07.599
internet if you've not done so,
on YouTube is John Lennon and Yoko Oko

421
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:16.480
Yoko ogo I did one of your
and yokoh no, Yoko Yoko um.

422
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:24.599
They joined Chuck Berry back sometime in
the in the early seventies, mid seventies

423
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:30.119
for a jam, and you have
these videos on YouTube, and you gotta

424
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:34.039
check it out because when they join
them, and you know, you have

425
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.559
Chuck Berry, that lanky tall guy
and John there they're singing you know,

426
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:44.519
long distance information, you know,
and they're singing his songs. Well,

427
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:50.000
Chuck Berry had no idea. And
it's captured on film and you gotta see

428
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:52.400
this if you can look it up. But Chuck Berry is singing to the

429
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:57.280
microphone. Lennon is also close to
the microphone. They're singing. It sounds

430
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:00.920
beautiful, it sounds rock and roll, it's awesome. And Yoko goes back

431
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:05.119
there and she's hitting on a drum. So Chuck Berry's okay with that,

432
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:12.840
because okay, it's she's she's on
the drum. And then she goes in

433
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:20.519
the middle of long distance information.
Dude, in the middle of long distance

434
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:25.159
information. Dude in the middle it's
And it's like when I say, and

435
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:29.400
you have to see this video because
Chuck Berry would have to look for it.

436
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:32.119
You have to look at it at
Chuck's face, because Chuck does this

437
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:37.239
like like contortion with his face.
Like as a musician, he was like

438
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:47.840
press stop on the record button.
Bob Chuck Barry, excellent guitarist, fabulous

439
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:51.960
performer, mister rock and roll,
one of the inventors, all right,

440
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:58.199
was not a nice man. He
was not a nice man. Um.

441
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:01.639
There used to be a video on
YouTube. I think it got pulled down

442
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:05.960
because I haven't been able to find
it and I've been looking for it for

443
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:10.280
over a year. Of it was
a behind the scenes thing. Somebody had

444
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:15.960
a camera rolling. It was Chuck
Berry and Keith Richards and they were gonna

445
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:20.360
play I want to say it was
Johnny be Good. It was either Johnny

446
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:27.360
be Good or it was maybe Lane, one of the two, and they

447
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.679
would Chuck Berry would just get going
in it, and Keith Richard would join

448
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:37.280
in, and Chuck Berry would stop
everything and just start cussing him up one

449
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:40.079
side and down the other. No, you stupid, so ob you come

450
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:44.800
in here and it sounds like this, and you do this, try it

451
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:49.760
again, and I mean he did
everything but punch him, but I mean

452
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.320
just and it got to the point
to where Keith Richard was just laughing about

453
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:55.519
it because it's like, look at
let's see how much we can get this

454
00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:00.519
guy to go off it. It
was pretty funny. Now I have not

455
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.360
been able to find it, and
like I said, a little over a

456
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:06.960
year so I don't know if he
got pulled down or what. But it

457
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:14.480
was hilarious to watch, kind of
cringe e but hilarious by its own right.

458
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:16.760
But he was not a nice man. He was not a nice man

459
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:22.000
at all. I do want to
say that, along with Chuck Barriott,

460
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:28.480
kind of an unsung hero was his
bass player. I believe he'd used the

461
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:34.000
upright bass Yeah. Does anybody out
there know the name of that bass player?

462
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:38.119
I believe the last name was Cox. Sure. And he wrote,

463
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:45.079
also co wrote and all that good
stuff with Barry at times. So he's

464
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.960
another guy that was you know of
the of of that time, and um,

465
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:53.079
I don't know that he has the
recognition nowadays. Let's say, now

466
00:40:53.639 --> 00:41:00.320
we kind of got on to the
subject kind of Piper peripheral lye about collaborates,

467
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:04.639
you know, talking about Chuck Berry
and John Lennon and then John Lennon

468
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:07.400
and Frank Zapp and what have you. I don't think I've ever asked you

469
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:15.480
what about your attitude on supergroups where
you take you know you have Like,

470
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:20.159
for instance, in the late eighties
early nineties, there was a supergroup that

471
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.840
formed for just a little while called
Damn Yankees. I remember them, you

472
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:28.760
know, Ted Nugent. I believe
it was Tommy Shaw. Was it Dynis

473
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:31.719
d Young. I'm gonna show my
ignorance here. It was either Dennis d

474
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:35.400
Young or Tommy Shaw from Stakes.
Anyway, a whole bunch of them got

475
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:44.840
together and you had that supergroup.
Then you also had the Traveling Traveling Woolberries.

476
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:52.039
Now, the Traveling Woolberries to me
were just absolutely kicking. I absolutely

477
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:58.079
loved it everything that they did.
I mean, when you've got George Harrison,

478
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:04.440
Jeff Lynn, Tom Petty, Bob, Dylan Roy Orbison, I don't

479
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:08.360
think you can go wrong, yeah, myself, but I don't think we've

480
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:14.719
ever talked about that. There's a
couple of things with that. So the

481
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:21.840
problem with super groups is that there's
a lot of It's kind of like too

482
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:28.039
many chefs in the kitchen. That
doesn't necessarily it's not necessarily a rule of

483
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:34.800
thumb that that would cause problems,
but it and I'm not talking about personality

484
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:40.079
problems. I'm talking about musically,
because you have the situation where so typically

485
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:45.159
a band like the Beatles, although
we think of them as all super powerfully

486
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:52.559
creative, and they were, you
had roles that people set themselves into and

487
00:42:52.760 --> 00:43:00.400
others agreed to silently, you know, subconsciously throughout their history, and they

488
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:07.039
functioned as a unit with everybody in
their sort of seat. You get people

489
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:13.400
from supergroups gathering together. You know, everybody's got a lot to contribute,

490
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:21.119
and all of a sudden, it
could happen that you'll have a killer song

491
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:24.679
or two or three because you know
they're focused. But a lot of the

492
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:29.440
members of that supergroup could have a
situation where like, well, I don't

493
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:32.079
want to be imposing, so they
don't give all that they got because they

494
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:36.920
don't want to overtake, and then
some others go for the ego well you

495
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:38.079
know, no, yeah, I
gotta we gotta do this, and so

496
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:45.599
between that it could create a less
than you know, lustful you know,

497
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:51.920
um you know production or or you
know, actual song in itself. The

498
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:55.800
production can be awesome. But so
I think that that's one of the problems

499
00:43:55.840 --> 00:44:01.840
with supergroups. I mean, yeah, yeah, and that may be why

500
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:06.480
they're so short lived. And I
just had to look it up. It

501
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:10.199
was Tommy Shaw from Sticks. It
was Tommy Shaw, Jack Blades from Night

502
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:21.760
Ranger, Ted Nugent, and Michael
Cardoloni. And that may be why some

503
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.480
of these groups are so short lived, as you have that fight of egos.

504
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:32.920
Yeah, but I think the I
think the whole thing with the Traveling

505
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:40.760
Wilbury's, they may have been the
exception to the rule because all of them

506
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:45.360
were I mean, the big mover
and shaker behind that was behind them was

507
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:52.320
Tom Petty. He wanted to put
it together. Tom Petty and Jeff Lynn

508
00:44:53.000 --> 00:45:04.360
were fairly decent friends and U and
got a hold of George Harrison kind of.

509
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:08.280
Jeff Lynne got a hold of George
Harrison and they just kind of put

510
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:15.519
it all together. And getting Roy
Orbison to join along, and they recorded

511
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:22.559
the They recorded two albums, and
I don't remember if roy Orbison was on

512
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:24.519
the second album or not. He
may have been on one or two cuts,

513
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:30.559
but I know Roy Orbison was in
one of the music videos from the

514
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:39.280
first album, and then he passed
away before they recorded the second video from

515
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:45.239
the first album. Yeah, so
in his place, they all traded back

516
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:52.480
and forth lines of the various verses, and in the yes, Handle with

517
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:57.760
Care, Doc Hildebrand jumped in in
Handle with Care. When it came to

518
00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:04.039
the section where roy orbis and was
singing, they had a empty rocking chair

519
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:07.239
with a guitar sitting in it,
and it was kind of rocking back and

520
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:12.480
forth and on his lines, they
kind of panned over to a photo of

521
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:16.320
Roy Orbison in a frame sitting on
a table, you know, so it's

522
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:21.400
kind of acknowledging him, keeping him
alive in the band and what have you.

523
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.760
But he passed away before they could
shoot that video. But I don't

524
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:29.360
remember if he was on the second
album or not. But you talk about

525
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.119
a conflict of egos, there wasn't
one. Each of them took on a

526
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:37.719
role. They started playing the persona
of the Woolberries. They all had nicknames,

527
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:43.639
you know, Bob Dylan was Boo
Woolberry, you know, and you

528
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.039
had they all took on a persona
and they played within that persona and they

529
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:53.159
passed around the vocals, they passed
around the guitars, leads, and did

530
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:59.559
harmonies together and everything to me they
were was an excellent group. Yeah,

531
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:05.920
and it was a successful and it
was a successful venture. And just me

532
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:10.320
talking here, I'd like to see
more collaborations like that. I mean,

533
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.880
you see people get together and they
jam with other people, and you know

534
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:17.119
that. You see that a lot
in blues. You know, Bonnie Ray

535
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:22.519
will get up with Buddy Guy or
something like that. But I'd like to

536
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:28.039
see a lot more of that,
you know it just I mean, pick

537
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:30.480
five artists that you'd like to see
performed together. I'd love to see some

538
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:36.760
collaborations. That's a tough one,
yeah, And I wasn't asking you to

539
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:38.840
pick five, but you know,
just in your brain, I mean,

540
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:43.679
geez, who would you like to
see performed together? Obviously living and still

541
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:50.719
performing, but yeah, well you
know I know who. I can tell

542
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:57.880
you who I wouldn't want to see
performing together. But Jagger and David Bowie

543
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:06.480
because I wouldn't want to see Mick
Jagger and David Boye performing dancing in the

544
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:08.119
streets. That's well, actually you
want you want to know the truth,

545
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:14.599
I would like to see that because
that was damn funny. Dude. You're

546
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:19.119
talking about that one video where somebody
pulled the music out. They took the

547
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.679
music video, pulled the music out
and then just kind of put their own

548
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:27.559
sound effects in there. Yeah,
and you want to talk about a cringey

549
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:32.239
video. Oh my gosh, I
mean, yeah, that was cringey.

550
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:37.119
If you guys have not seen that, see there's a lot of that on

551
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:44.039
this episode here, but if you've
not seen Mick Jagger David Boye performing dancing

552
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:49.679
in the streets without with all the
music, you know, brought down to

553
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:54.119
zero and just them doing the sort
of articulations that they would have done when

554
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:57.519
they were filming it. Because you
know how it goes, right, they

555
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:01.760
film music videos and you're miming to
what you're listening. They'll have like a

556
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:06.480
cassette recorder out there or some nice
you know, and then they'll just mime

557
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:08.840
what they're listening to. But they're
not actually obviously, you know, this

558
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:14.119
they're lip syncing. Um. And
the funny thing about it is is that

559
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:17.519
this guy was a brilliant guy.
Um, he should win an award because

560
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:22.920
that he took out all the music
and then he overdubbed all the little sort

561
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:30.760
of like Mick Jagger going and all
that kind of stuff. And that's good.

562
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:34.360
And you hear footsteps and they'll go
into one room when you hear the

563
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.639
door creak open, you know,
stuff like that. It's it's actually some

564
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:43.400
funny stuff. But but to be
to be honest, uh, even so,

565
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.960
even with the music, it's still
cringey. Yeah it is. It's

566
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:51.440
very cringey. But it is funny, you know. It's it's good for

567
00:49:51.559 --> 00:50:00.880
comic relief. Oh man. Oh, Jim, no, I don't think

568
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:10.119
we can do that, Jim dockerel. I don't know, man, Um,

569
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.639
that's kind of it for me.
Those were the only things that I

570
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:19.760
had on my plate. Well,
very we did good man. I mean,

571
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.920
well, we've only been up for
you know, we haven't been up

572
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:24.920
for an hour yet, so it
would be a short episode if we cut

573
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.559
it now. But what have you
got? I'm sure you got something else?

574
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:32.000
Oh well, um, not really, to be honest, with you.

575
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.239
No, okay, well, I
mean short, we can know what

576
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:45.199
I've got. Um would take us
into a different world altogether. And what's

577
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:47.079
the use of that? You know
what I mean, because it has to

578
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:53.599
do with other Oh you're thinking,
No, I'm looking over here at the

579
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:59.079
chat. I'm following the inside chat
over here for those of you who listening

580
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:02.880
on the podcast, and I don't
know. We recorded these in a YouTube

581
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:07.519
livestream, so we have a live
chat going on and some of our friends

582
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:12.760
come along and they cheer us on, you know, from the bleachers as

583
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:16.719
it were. And Doc Jared Hildebrand
just through in Big Animals. Every time

584
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:22.679
we have had Doc as a guest
on the podcast, doesn't matter what we

585
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.159
start out talking about, we end
up talking about big animals. We end

586
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:30.679
up it's like a trip to the
zoo. You know, somebody's going to

587
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:35.559
talk about a wolf, somebody's going
to talk about big cats or something like

588
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:42.079
that. So Doc has to throw
that in. That's that's fun. Well

589
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.079
I'll tell you. UM, let
me see if I can find this here.

590
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:51.719
So we have a website and it's
called Trampled Underfoot podcast dot com.

591
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:57.480
We have all of our past episodes
right where that button that says way back

592
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:01.519
machine is at and you click that
and you can catch older episodes. And

593
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:07.280
we have the new episodes coming out
each week on Tuesdays, so you can

594
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:14.039
listen to our podcasts. A little
bit about us, So we have a

595
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:15.639
Yeah, I don't know if you've
if you guys have gone and seen it,

596
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:22.039
but we haven't. About us on
the the website Trampled Underfoot podcast dot

597
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:28.960
com website and Mark, he says. Mark Lindsay is the old man of

598
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:34.039
the pair. He's traveled Western Europe, lived in fourteen states, and has

599
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:37.519
visited twenty five others. Born in
nineteen sixty one, he has a lot

600
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:45.559
to get off of my lawn about. He's a major fan of classic comedy,

601
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:51.599
blues, guitar, and just playing
being nice to one another. Okay,

602
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:55.039
so you check that out and any
comments. Yeah, I also like

603
00:52:55.159 --> 00:53:01.280
puppies and long walks on the beach
on mine. I say ELOI escahdo grew

604
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:06.960
a beard so folks would leave him
alone. Lives with his dog and his

605
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:12.079
the younger half of this most excellent
podcast. He's of the eighties, plays

606
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:15.639
and writes music, and enjoys a
good bowl of clamp chowder under the hot

607
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:20.760
Florida sun. I quote I'm quoted
saying I can always go back and rewrite

608
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:23.800
this, but this is the truth
of the matter. So you should check

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out our website and the things that
we post there. We also have a

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Facebook page called Trampled Underfoot Podcast on
Facebook and you can catch our podcast where

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exactly mark oh all over the place. Our flagship, however, is Sprinker.

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But we're on your Apple podcast,
We're on your Google podcast, We're

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on Stitcher, We're on iHeartRadio where
where is so many places? Even if

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you're not listening to us, our
voices are traveling through you like a convenience

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store burrito. All right, and
well I think that pat. We will

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leave it at that. We'll say
hello to Tracy because she just popped in

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and Tracy, good night, and
good night to all of you guys.

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Thanks for hanging out with us.
This was a fun episode. Actually it's

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a very fun episode. I would
like to mention one thing that we didn't

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mention when we were talking about our
excellent, excellent website, and that isn't

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sponsored by Steve neelin over at Harneil
Media, Webmaster to the stars. If

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you're thinking about getting a hold of
a website. Kind of thinking about it.

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Talk to Steve. He will hook
you up. Yeah, that's right,

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Steve Neelin. Thank you again.
We should have him on the pot.

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We should have everyone on the podcast. You know what, We're gonna

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start taking down your names because we
need to do some some chit chat.

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So yeah, we'll catch you guys
next time. Are we good to go,

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Mark, Yeah, we're good to
go. Did I do that?

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Says yeah, he did that.
He didn't know it, but he did

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it. Push. Thank you,
Thank you much, everybody, thanks very

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much for hanging with us. Have
a good evening. Push the button,

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rank yep, push the button.
Frank trampled underfoot