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You're listening to KFI AM six forty
on demand. I know that sometimes if

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you are a believer and you think, oh gosh, you know this is

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going to be there's going to be
a simple answer to this, and I

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don't want to ask it because I
don't want to feel like a fool.

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Don't let that cross your mind.
The important thing is to seek answers,

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to seek the truth. And the
same goes with your life. In life

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situations, if there's things that are
are weighing on you, that are cluttering

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your your mind or your heart from
focusing on God, it's important to clear

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those by the wayside. And it's
when you ask for insight from friends,

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from family, even here on the
program. It's not a it's not showing

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weakness, showing strength. And you
know how it is that it's always easier

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to help someone else out with their
issues than it is to for you to

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really dissect the things you're going through. And that's why you know, lifeguards

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tend to be on the real tall
chair so they can look outside the situation

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a little bit, because that's better
than if they were just in the water.

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And the same goes for you that
in your life it's going to be

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much more difficult to navigate sometimes than
it is for somebody on the outside.

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And those things help to move along
and to grow and those types of things.

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So keep that in mind as you
as you ask, not only on

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this program but one another, find
those places of understanding and that it's not

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a place of weakness at all.
I want you to think about something today

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that happens all too often, and
that is coming to a place where where

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you feel that it's done, Like
you've crossed the point of no return.

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Now, if you're flying a plane
or what have you, there is the

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concept of point of no return,
that you are past the halfway point,

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which means you're not going to have
the gas, the fuel that it's going

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to take to get back. So
you have to push yourself continually forward,

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regardless of weather or circumstance. Well, in life, there's always a point

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of return. There's always a place
where you can rethink the decisions you've made

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in your life and try and make
better ones, to go down a path

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that is more productive or beneficial.
And I know that you've done things.

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I know that you've gone through life
and that there's been times where you've done

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things that you're not proud of or
that you regret. But there's always time

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for change, even in the last
minute. Now, you don't want to

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wait. You don't want to dilly
dally. You don't want to dangle and

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get to a point where you may
not get that opportunity. As the saying

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goes, that he who waits to
make a change in his life in the

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eleventh hour dies at ten thirty.
But what I want you to think about

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is to know that as long as
you are drawing breath on this earth,

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that you can call out to me. That even if you think in your

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heart of hearts that you can't,
that you've done so much that you think

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is wrong, that you've gotten so
far removed from the truth, from righteousness,

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from God, that there's no way
back. I want you to know

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that there is. There, absolutely
is. Luke twenty three forty three is

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me speaking to one of the thieves
on the cross, and I say,

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assuredly, I say to you today, you will be with me in paradise.

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This is a criminal who is being
nailed to a cross beside me,

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and I reassured him that even he
would be with me in paradise It's never

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too late to make a change.
It's never too late to rethink your life,

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your circumstance, the things that you
believe, what you use to be

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your guiding light or ruler in life. It's never too late to look around

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at that and make a decision for
Christ, change your life and know that

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there's a purpose. Sometimes I feel
like you get to a point where you

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treat me like you owe me money. You have gotten to a point where

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you feel that you're so bad that
you can't come and talk to me,

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that you can't see me, seek
me out, pray because of the fear

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that I'm going to reject you somehow. But even in those last moments,

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like a thief on the cross,
he turned his life around, and so

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can you. Julie. Welcome to
the Jesus Christia. H Hello Jesus,

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Julie. Hi, I just had
a question. I just want to state

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that I do wholly believe in God. But my question today is sometimes when

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I pray, I think of,
well, God, you do so many

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miracles, you do so many wonderful
things. Why can't you respond in your

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miraculous ways quicker to some of my
hopes and dreams and desires. I don't

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feel like I'm a greedy person,
that I don't feel like I want too

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much. But sometimes when I'm really
questioning, oh, I don't know the

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path of let's say career. Sure
as an example, you know, he

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just everything that he has created.
I get frustrated sometimes in the riddles of

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trying to figure out, well,
is this a sign or is this a

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way for him showing me or me
getting this job offer, or me having

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this interview. It's a sit you
know, I guess it can be frustrating

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to me that I can't see it
more clear. Sure, And it's and

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it's a very normal question and place
to be when you are in your life

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asking questions and asking for guidance.
The the balance there is that in those

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types of prayers there is a relational
response, meaning that you play a part

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in them, as does the father. So in that relationship, sometimes people

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ask really obvious things or things that
they already know and they want confirmation,

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and in that sense there's there.
Sometimes there's not a right or wrong answer.

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If you asked God, should you
have you know, milk today or

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lemonade? There's not a real answer. Sure, there isn't that's a flavor,

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that's a taste that's based on what
you what you want, not what

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God wants for you. Now,
if you get into you know, the

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minutia of the question, and then
you start going, well, it is

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milk better for me than lemonade,
and lemonade has sugar, and you start

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going into all that, then you
can make decisions based on what your particular

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needs are when it comes to jobs, and this is when the question comes

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up a lot our career paths.
You can't wait for God to design a

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path for you that you're not willing
to put the time into yourself. So

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if you've established gifts, what your
gifts and abilities are, then it's a

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free for all. Then it's whatever
is out there is a righteous path for

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you. Now applying it to your
life. That means that if you know

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that you're good it's speaking, then
whatever you're gonna do is going to involve

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speaking. So you start whittling it
down like that to say, God,

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if there's two jobs in front of
me, which one's better, which one's

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worse? To make a list,
because when people ask that, oftentimes it

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means one isn't better for them,
but it's sexier, there's something about it

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that looks more interesting or more fun, or it's a little more high profile,

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and those are the things that you
have to whittle through, and God

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will continually point you in the direction. People say that they get confused because

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they're rejecting what God is saying.
Usually I'm always just looking to do the

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right thing, and oftentimes I have
a family, I'm just like Gosh,

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I hope I made the right choice. Hope I'm doing the right thing.

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God, can you, you know, give me the strength to understand or

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show me somehow that this is it? And sometimes it's there and sometimes I

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wait, and sometimes maybe it's there
and I don't see it. Maybe,

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but there's oftentimes where they're just both
right. It's a flavor things. It's

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once you've done all your work,
once you've said, hey, is you

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know, is this going to bring
in enough money for my family? Is

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this going to keep me out of
the home too much? Once you've done

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all that homework, then it comes
down to flavor. It really does.

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And don't over text yourself. You
can make a decision and deal with the

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decision. And sometimes God's not gonna
be pounding on your door for those types

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of things both are right, choose
the one that you want. Prayer just

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to the time. I'm telling you, the time that we have together goes

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by very quickly, I realize.
But when it comes to prayer, I

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know that there are a lot of
questions, especially about the way they're answered,

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and sometimes going into prayer in the
proper attitude and understanding what its purpose

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is is best. It is communication, It is communing with God. It

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is making petition or requests of things
that are needed or wanted, but things

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that are needed are usually provided for
on their own. And as far as

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direction is concerned, if you think
of it like shopping with a parent and

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you see a child with a parent, and the kid asks for everything as

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they go through the store, Can
I have this? Can I have this?

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Can I have this? Can I
have this? And the parent oftentimes

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goes no, no, no,
or yes yes yes it's for It gives

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the child an opportunity not just to
know what the parent wants for them,

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but what they should want for themselves. The sugar, cereals or candy or

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these types of things are not the
staples in which you're to build your life

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upon, and your nutritional building blocks, so the parent will guide the child,

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help the child understand, not giving
the child what they want, but

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giving the child what they need and
establishing a place for the child like a

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measuring read for the child to know
what the will of the parent is,

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which is ultimately the best will for
the child. Similarly that when you ask

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for things from God, a lot
of times the answer is going to be

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no, because you're asking for sugar
cereal and God's saying no, that's not

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good for you. But if similarly, if the parent allows the child to

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get a non sugar cereal, that
what choice they make between those non sugar

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cereals is not going to matter the
criteria the specific criteria was not a sugar

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cereal. Then the rest becomes flavoring. So that confuses people sometimes when they're

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making requests of God, they're saying, well, how come you're not answering

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me specifically on this Well, because
that becomes a flavor or a taste issue.

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That's not a good, bad,
or wrong issue, And usually those

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are clarified quite quickly in many ways, and don't even need prayer for that

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specific type of thing because you already
know you don't have to pray whether you're

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going to hit yourself in the head
with a ballpeen hammer. You know that

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God already thinks that's not a good
idea. Couldn't imagine a scenario where that

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would be a good idea. So
I realized that it gets confusing sometimes.

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But really it's about this. The
specificity of prayer is to fine tune yourself

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and your will to the will of
God. That's what it is, so

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that your prayers become asking what He
wants to give you. Anyways, that's

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the purpose. So when it comes
to our relationship, it's the exact same

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thing. You pray for things that
you want and fine tune your will to

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My will. Ben, Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show. Hello, Hi,

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Ben. I've been going to say
in church for years though, and

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one of the things they've been preaching
over slope it is that if you leave

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the church and go to a different
church, you go to you go to

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hell because you leave the place that
God put you. And oh boy,

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I disagree with a lot of the
theology going on as the church, and

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I don't know what to do is
going to a different church? What do

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you say, go to hell for
going to a different church. Well,

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okay, wow, that's rough from
the pulpit they're preaching that. Huh,

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yes, okay, that's a little
scary. There are essentials to the things

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that are imperative. It's it's like
asking, you know, how many how

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many corners does a circle have?
None? That's what makes it a circle.

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If as corners, it becomes a
square or another shape. But there

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are things that define Christianity, and
I know that that it seems that when

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it comes to spiritual things or things
dealing with religion, that it's a free

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for all. Whatever you believe,
fine, and that that that is fine

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for an individual in the United States. You have every right to believe whatever

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you believe. However, Christianity does
have a definition to it. And as

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long as you are in a church
that is defined by the essentials of the

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faith, the triune nature of God, the virgin birth, these types of

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things. Who does it say that
I am? Does it say that I'm

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just a good guy, a teacher, or does it say that I Am

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the Messiah, the the God incarnate? These types of things are going to

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be imperative if they If the church
has that, then and you just like

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this particular church or that particular church, It doesn't matter to me. What

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matters to me is what the church
teaches. If they are teaching that they

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are the only true church and that
churches with that, with those essential criterias

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are not a good church you're going
to help, then to me, that

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becomes cult like and it becomes a
huge problem because now they're trying it's not

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about your Christianity, it's about your
church entity. It's about being a part

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of their church rather than being a
follower of Christ. So that is a

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concern to me. So the church
itself, if that's what they're preaching from

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the pulpit, that's a little disconcerting. That's about keeping membership and not about

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somebody following their heart and what you
believe is your path. So if you

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feel led to go to another church, as long as it's a Bible believing,

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Bible teaching, essentials based church,
and you can find out for most

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churches have websites or you can ask
them for a mission statement states what they

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believe and why they believe in these
types of things, then it doesn't matter

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what church you're in. Right,
So you know the problem lies now with

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your wife. If you know you
guys should be a unit in the home,

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and you have to come to some
conclusion that works out for the family,

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because if the family's going to different
places, I would be a little

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concerned as well, right because she's
talking about how she wants to go to

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church together still and sure that's the
way it should be. That would be

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the best. Wait, now you
say, theologically, what's standing out theologically

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in this church, and without giving
the name of the church, what theologically

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is standing out in this church that
makes you feel a little uncomfortable there or

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want to change. I was in
a why I was in abandon. That

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was before I really knew a lot
of their ministry requirements, so I m

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I can understand them. Adunl't not
owning a TV, which that I'm fine

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with that, but they don't want
you to own a TV. Yeah,

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you're not allowed to own a TV. There's Saturday morning outreach, Saturday night

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concert, flash outreach, Friday night
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church, Sunday night church, and
then throughout I'd say at least half the

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time, there's prayer on Thursday nights. They want you to go to prayer

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Saturday mornings and then every day before
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this to me sounds and listen.
All those things are good. There's nothing

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wrong with them as far as suggestions
or offerings. It's great for a church

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to be active and have a lot
of offering for those that are participating,

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meaning that if you have time before
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or to have Bible studies throughout the
week, or these things all great if

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they become mandates and things like TV, which yes, I realized that that

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TV is a portal to a lot
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it's all garbage. That's you know, like saying, don't own a bookshelf

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in books because there's bad books out
there. I think it's better to temper

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what you do watch and once you
there's nothing wrong with not having a TV,

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by the way, at all.
My problem would be if a church

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was mandating it. So these types
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shepherding movement and things like that where
people decide who you can marry, what

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house you can move into, how
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individual, case by case decision based
on the leader of the home. And

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that's the family members, So it
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I would definitely, at bare minimum
put a question mark over the church.

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And if you have other similar things
that kind of make you feel like,

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wow, there's something off, then
I'd say, yeah, it's time

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to run, not walk to the
nearest exit. But you know, if

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it's just hey, they're very active
and participatory and they make us accountable,

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that's normal. That's good. If
they're dictating what you can do and what

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you can't do. If you're a
member of the church, it's a little

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different in the sense that if you
are working there in some capacity during ministry,

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then they have every right to say
that anybody that is in ministry at

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our church is going to abide by
these things. That's fine. But if

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you're sitting just in the pews and
the seats and you're a part of the

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church that way and they're trying to
dictate things, it raises some more eyebrows.

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So anything else that stands out maybe
theologically there, uh, the way

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that they use tongues during services,
gotcha, And it's not a loosey goosey

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all over the place, and right
there's no interpretation of it whatsoever. There's

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not that would be a big one
too. That would be a big one.

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So it sounds to me that you're
kind of making good checks and balances

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of your concerns. And I'd say, from what you've told me, they're

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not here to defend themselves. But
from what you've told me, those are

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very legitimate reasons to go look for
another church. Great, I'm the only

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concern I am having is with the
wife too. Of well, you need

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to sit her down and make your
case and explain and not be divisive and

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say, I'm really concerned, and
you're trusting in me to be a spiritual

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leader in this home, and these
are my concerns and I'm trying to make

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the best decision possible. And this
church, I don't feel suits are our

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specific needs. And and I know
that you love this church. I asked

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that we go try I've been here
with you, I've sat here with you.

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I'm asking you to try some other
options with me, right And you

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know you've got to There's a lot
of things you got to work together,

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uh in life and have compromise and
decisions. But this sounds to me spiritually

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like it's a bad place to be
so so you've just got to take the

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time to to make your case to
your wife so that she can hear your

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concerns, but make them real and
legitimate, paint them out, say I

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think this, this is a really
scary situation. And and you know what

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I'm gonna I'm gonna put you on
hold, but Ben, don't hang up.

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I want I want our screener to
to talk to you and get the

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name of the church, because I'd
like to know the name of the church

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as well, and we'll get more
specifics from him. There. A church

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is a very personal need. Not
only are there not only are there general

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generalities that are important, Like I
said, the essentials of the faith that

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make Christianity Christianity. You can't just
and you find this all over the place.

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You can't just say, oh,
well, we read the Bible or

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we do this, and therefore we're
a Christian church. There are things that

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make a Christian church a Christian church. You can't just take the name and

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co op for any any belief that's
out there. And I know a lot

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of people do that. Even the
New Age movement tries to do that,

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where they have their very metaphysical and
other Christian. They're not tied into Christian

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in any way, shape or form. Yet they use scripture and try and

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make it look like they're sempatico and
they're not. And you have to know

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that there is a line. And
if it feels uncomfortable, sometimes it's going

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to be that taste or flavor thing
again. Sometimes it's going to be,

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well, I want to eat more
youthful church, or I want a church

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that focuses on these types of ministries
or whatever. That's fine, and there's

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gonna be other times where you look
and you say, you know what,

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the theology here is starting to rub
my spirit wrong. It's starting to make

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me feel like I'm a part of
something that I shouldn't be a part of.

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And I know the battle that goes
on there as Wow, am I

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just being wimpy? Am I being
undedicated? Do I not want to be

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accountable? And if those are the
questions, then you know, you stick

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to it and you let the church
grow with you as you grow with the

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church. But if you really feel
that they're going counter to what you believe

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scripture teaches, Scripture does not teach
that there's any one specific building or teacher

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that is the truth. It teaches
that scripture is the focus that I,

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Jesus Christ, am the focused.
That is what is taught. So this

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whole, if you went anywhere else, that's a really a really big red

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flag. That always makes me concerned
when somebody proclaims they are the they have

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or the arbitrary is a truth and
you can't find it anywhere else, and

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if you go anywhere else, then
you're doomed to hell. Those types of

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things make me concerned. When it's
within Christianity, then you start poking around

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at the theology and seeing if they're
adhering to the essentials or not. That

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would be that what breaks down the
truth versus that which is false. Gary,

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Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Criminal. I'm sorry you are my

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favorite criminal? Is that right?
Yes? You were. That's a strange

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way, yeah, a strange way
of putting it. But I appreciate you.

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She's convicted for blasphemy and you suffered
and died, and I very much

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appreciate what you told me. My
question is is it wrong to give money

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to street people that will probably use
it for drugs and alcohol? When you

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said it rains on the just and
the unjust. Oh, there's a lot

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of controversy that goes into this because
the things that were said in scripture.

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If you remember, there were those
that wanted to spend time with me and

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then would talk about the poor,
and I remarked that the poor you will

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always have with you, meaning that
you're not going to dig the poor out

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of being poor. There will always
be poor people on the earth. Sad

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notion. Well, let me finish. In addition to that, Gary,

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the assumption is that people that when
you're doing something, even you said give

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money, but some people say is
it wrong to help the people on the

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street by giving them money? Well? Are you helping? Is the concern?

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If you're just giving money to make
yourself feel good or to go,

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look, hey, I'm handing money
to somebody who's less fortunate than I am.

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That's pride, that's about you.
If you really want to help somebody,

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then you need to know whether you're
helping them or not. Okay,

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how about this rather than calling it
charity because I see this all the time

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on the convenience store at six o'clock
in the morning, before one's desperate for

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a drink. They're either afraid or
unwilling to accept help. If I say

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this, I'll buy you an alcoholic
beverage or I'll give you the money to

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buy one. But in exchange for
that, I want you, while you're

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drinking it to ask God or Jesus
for help or to show you the way

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to get help with your life.
Then it's an exchange of values. It's

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no longer charity. No, But
you're helping someone sin in the process.

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I am helping him sin in the
process. How do you know you drink?

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No, it's about somebody who's an
alcoholic or somebody that needs a drink.

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But that's different. There's a difference
in sin, and this is people

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that confused in this. There are
general sins that are wrong for everyone,

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and then there are specific sins that
are wrong for you. An alcoholic,

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it is a sin for them to
drink. That doesn't mean that it's a

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sin to have wine with dinner.
It means that it's a sin for alcoholic

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to have alcohol at all. That's
the concern. So you're participating in that

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sin to try and barter for God. And quite frankly, I don't need

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anybody to barter for me. There's
no need for any sort of exchange.

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I will touch the hearts of man
across the board. People will either either

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accept or reject. And if they
took the drink and started to accept,

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it doesn't mean anything. Scripture says
that when someone's under the influence, they're

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under the influence chemically. They're under
the influence of the enemy, not of

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God, and so they're in a
state where they couldn't receive if they wanted

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to. But Jesus, let me
ask you this, aren't I passing judgment

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on somebody yet clearly obviously they have
a problem, or they wouldn't be there

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begging for money at six o'clock in
the morning. Yes, you are passing

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judgment on them. What's wrong with
that? Didn't you say judge, not

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less you be judged. Yeah,
I said, be prepared for you to

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be judged if you judge others,
So that doesn't say don't judge. People

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get this tied up in their own
mindset. If you were to say somebody

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looked good, or somebody was smart, or somebody was good at something,

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you're judging them as well, right, yes, yeah, okay. But

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the concern is that people get lost
in the concept of judging. What I

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don't want and why it says this
over and over in scripture, don't judge

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the speck in someone else's eye when
you have a plank in yours is that

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In Corinthians it says if you judge
yourself, you will not have to be

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judged by others. However, it
never says that there isn't going to be

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judgment. There has to be judgment
for anybody to grow. Even you saying

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that they need God is a judgment. There's no way to interact with somebody

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in a beneficial manner without judging them. Judging can be a wonderful thing.

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What I don't want is people to
judge others instead of judging themselves, meaning

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that they're constantly so focused on other
people that you never look at what's going

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on with you Gary, or what
Gary needs or how Gary can grow.

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So that's what concerns me. The
concept of judging is so taking out of

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context. People use that as a
way to kind of shut down people that

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are trying to correct them. You
could have no correction, no toutelage,

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no understanding, no teaching if unless
you were judged, you can't look at

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yourself as better than that person.
But you can look at that person and

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say I have a better way of
you doing this, or I have something

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that's helpful. There's absolutely nothing wrong
with that. People don't like judgment because

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they don't want to be found out. They don't want to be called out

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on the carpet or accountable. Judgment
has a purpose. Unrighteous judgment is when

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you just think you're better than someone
else. It doesn't matter who you are,

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and you just keep pushing other people
around and tell them what they need

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to do. That would be a
problem when it comes to giving money on

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the streets. The thing is you
have to understand if it's going to be

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helpful or not. You don't have
the time or the resources to vet every

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individual, so the best way to
do it is to vet a or look

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into an organization a charity that does
this. You can carry cards from the

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local mission on you so that they
will help people go and get food.

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But to give to that individual,
more likely than not, you're giving to

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their ailment, their sickness, their
sin, or a problem more than you're

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giving to them to help themselves out. And if you talk to or hear

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interviews from people who have been on
the street, who lived on the street

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but really works to get off them. They'll tell you that that didn't help.

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They'll tell you what helped them was
someone put pushing them towards getting back

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on their feet, or some people
are mentally ill and need help there.

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Whatever it might be, your money
isn't necessarily going to help them, and

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it comes from a place of pride
more than it comes from a place of

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actually wanting to help someone, and
finding that balance is a difficult one to

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come to. So keep that in
mind as you, you know, engage

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people on the streets and try and
find out whether you know it's good or

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not to be giving money. KFI
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