Billy Cunningham, the Great America will welcome this Tuesday afternoon. The Ohio couple
will be contested tonight and tomorrow Cleveland in Town, Reds off on Thursday back
in Milwaukee in Milwaukee Friday, Saturday and Sunday. But of course, the
Caitlin markeing case continues to cause a lot of angs to throughout the tri State.
It looks as if John Carter, the supposed fiancee if Caitlin Markham,
is getting off somewhat light, and many are concerned about why no reporter in
town is more connected to this case than the great Karen Johnson of News five.
And she's been with it for the last thirteen years or so. And
Caitlyn was a few days shorter of r twenty second birthday when she was murdered
by John Carter, who said guilty. But instead of a murder charge,
it was broken down to involuntary manslaughter, like the unintentional killing of another while
committing some other offense, which is kind of a light punishment when you consider
these such things. So Karen Johnson, once again, welcome to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And Karen, in your long repertorial history going back many years.
Where does the Caitlin Markham case score when it comes to your concern,
your involvement, your sense of injustice in this case? Yeah, you know,
really good afternoon. I have to tell you this is one that I
have been with since day one, since the day that John Carter first talked
to us, and it's up there. This one and the Ryan Windmer are
two. I would say that I have become completely attached to just because there
are two cases that I you know, thaught through to until the very end.
And in terms of this case, you know the outcome. I know
there's a lot of outras, there's a lot of anger, people are upset.
But I have also spoken to prosecutors, have spoken to Dave Markham,
and there's a whole other side that they have to understand that this was a
circumstantial case. There was zero direct evidence. So at the end of the
day, you know, I'm not I'm not you know, behind closed doors
with prosecutors, But at the end of the day, you kind of have
to the weigh your options there when it is a circumstance case, circumstantial case,
and I suppose the fear was if they want to trial in a murder
case. Maybe probably the Jerry and Butler County would have convicted him a murder,
but then you got a lengthy appeal process. And when you have only
circumstantial evidence, some of most of which points toward Gilp, but some of
which doesn't, you're rolling the dice whether either the Butler County jury or down
the road he's going to be walk off completely. And a defense council,
according to my mosure of the prosecutor, came to them with the deal.
They came to them and said, we'll take involuntary manslaughter. That's extremely unusual.
Explain that process, yeah, because you know, usually the prosecutors and
it was my understanding too, you know, I just assumed that, you
know, prosecutors came to them with the deal. But here you are,
two weeks out before trial and the sense team, according to my sources,
went to prosecutors and said, you know, hey, how about this deal?
And you know there were discussions. I could tell you. I was
in the courthouse Wednesday and there were some rumblings that this was taking place,
and then Friday it was a done deal. You know, But if you
look at the difference murder and involuntary manslaughter way different way, different penalties.
But you got to think about it. You're talking about jurors. You never
know, you just need that one duror to hang a jury, even if
if you're not talking about, you know, guilt or not guilty. If
this I feel like lately there's been so many hung juries. Could you imagine
Dave Markham if he had to sit through this even longer, if this went
a trial and there was a hung jury and they had to sit through it
longer. To me, that's kind of what I have been thinking about and
trying to explain to people because people thought it was a slam dunk, you
know who did it. People had people coining their finger at Don Carter immediately,
and you know that's not the key. The statute says no person shall
cause the death of another as approximate result of the offenders committing or attempting to
commit a felony. So what was the felony that John Carter was committing which
caused the death of another without the specific intent to kill the person? What
was the other felony? And I guess is that still up in the air.
That's still up in the air. And actually when the prosecutor Brad Buris
when he read in court they said he committed misdemeanor assault which caused the death
of Caitlin Markham. Those were his words. So I'm not a legal expert
and attorney, but it seems like it was a misdemeanor according to this plea
deal that ended Caitlyn's death. So it was a misdemeanor such as desecration of
a corpse, uh, something of that character. We don't know yet,
A misdemeanor assault, a misdemeanor assaultsalts, So I don't know that. Yeah,
a misdemeanor of assault. So I would love to hear from an attorney
exactly what that could be. In my mind, I was thinking, Okay,
maybe you get into it, you're in a fight with somebody, and
you know, maybe she accidentally fell or you know, I would love to
hear from an attorney what that could be. Well, allegedly, I guess
the allegation is you might have got into a physical a DV situation and one
one thing led to another and maybe hit her and she fell and hit her
head. Something like that would apply. He didn't specifically mean anything. Yeah,
And I guess according to the plea deal. The intent wasn't there.
Yeah, there was no intent specifically to murder, and maybe that's it.
But I think all all of us kind of know what happened, that he
killed her and somehow desecrated the corpse and did whatever and I don't know where.
Well, I guess it's completely unjust. But when I talked to other
prosecutors, they tell me, Look, this happens kind of all the time,
in which case we think, when what happened, well, we can't
prove what happened, and they can't risk going to trial and having been found
not guilty, then he's free for eternity. And John Carter, I would
have to think, had certainly, certainly apprehension of guilt, otherwise he wouldn't
have said guilty in court. Was that something Dave Markham, the father wanted
to hear, was guilty that you killed my girl? Yes, I think
that is something detective wanted to hear. I think that's something Dave Markham here,
front row seat, here, front row seat, he watched John Carter
say that word guilty. But I think this is what angers the family,
this is what angers the community. He had thirteen years to admit this and
we've interviewed him multiple times. I know many people have talked to him.
It was deny deny, deny, deny, deny having anything to do with
her death or knowing what happened to her. And he was indicted a year
ago, So this whole year what happened. It was until two weeks before
trial. Yile and talking to Dave Markham on Saturday, he feels like this
was planned out. No, waited to two weeks that way he could be
free for this entire time, the longest amount of time. And it's like,
Okay, at the last second, I'm going to take a leavial.
You know, your interview with Detective Joe Nerlinger and the sergeant Rob Whitlock was
great because they seemed to indicate others were involved in at least disposal desecration of
the body. Explain that to the American people. Yeah, So they had
those two detectives had the case for a little bit. First, it started
off with Spairfuieal police. The investigation really went nowhere. In twenty fifteen,
Dave Markham asked the Butler County Sheriff, can you please have investigators put a
set of eyes on this? So that is when Whitlock and Nerlinger picked up
the case. They investigated for four months straight, day in and day out.
They were speculating when I asked that question, because I think that is
something so many people asked over the years. Was it just John Carder?
Were there other people in They said, in their opinion, they do believe
John acted alone, but could have there been other people who helped move the
body from Fairfield the seed of Road, Indiana. They said, in their
opinion, they do believe that maybe he had help. And also maybe yet
two other three q or three other people knew what happened. Did they speculate
us who those two other one or two other people might be who have kept
silent for thirteen years? Did they speculate who that might be? No,
they did not speculate, and they did not want to go there at this
time. And as far as that aspect, maybe that investigation continues. If
it's a murder case, the statue doesn't run. But anything else the statute
would have run unless they secreted themselves out of the jurisdiction. And who knows,
but these detectives know. Whether I always use the term of the bodies
are buried in this case literally, and they believe others are involved other than
John Carter. Yeah, that's what they believe now, the prospect to forget
after they investigated, then the prosecutor picked it up in twenty twenty, they
had their own investigators also do a lot more legwork, a lot more digging,
And I'm hoping after sentencing, Mike Moser will give us access to his
detectives because I would love to know what they've found, because I know they
found stuff even after the Sheriff's investigators. So there's a lot of set of
investigating, lots of sets of investigators who had a hand in this, and
I would like to know they kind of like weaved all the pieces together at
the very end to get the indictment. So I would love to talk to
them to find out their thoughts on how everything unfolded, because we still don't
know exactly how she died. You know, there was never a cause of
death. We don't know, you know, there's so many unknowns, and
I think that is what Dave Markham Fairfield community family friends of Caitlin, they
kind of want to know exactly what happened and we don't know. During the
murder trial hoping that would come out. The risk of doing so is the
killer would get off free for life and move about because Butler County jury's,
as you may know, are very difficult. I mean, if criminal defense
lawyers, you don't want to go in front of a Butler County jury.
I'm not like a Hamlet County jury. You don't want to go in front
of a Boone County jury. Well, because they're tough. And if they
would have found him even guilty, you had ten years of appeals, he
would have been out. At some point. The case was thin, and
I've heard some law enforcement officials tell me it began with Fairfield police that went
on for two or three years. Then it went to Butler County and the
professionals Nerlinger and Whitlock got involved. They brought in BCI, they had FBI
elements. Was there a screw up in the beginning of the investigation in the
first year or two, you know, I don't know that for a fact,
but I can tell you from talking to sources, they feel like it
wasn't investigated properly, it wasn't done thorough. But I am not going to
speculate, cause I don't have those facts. Is something then I would love
to talk to the detective with the investigators with the prosecutor's office, who you
know, got to look at everything. But I can tell you it really
didn't go anywhere. Even after Caitlin's remains were found in Indiana, it didn't
go anywhere. Fairfield had the case. I remember, I was actually looking
back on my notes and on August eighteenth, which was four days after she
disappeared, we reported according to Fairfield Police they did not suspect foul play.
So that was what they thought, you know, from the get go,
they did not suspect foul play. Four days after the disappearance of Kaitlin Barkham,
we had reported the Fairfield Police told us they did not suspect foul play.
And by that point the body was somewhere in Indiana, taken there by
John Carter at all and the Fairfield police said, we don't suspect foul play.
What she disappeared? Did she go to Mexican? What did they say?
We don't have a body, you don't here, you have twenty one
And I remember, you know, back then, beyond the searches, there
are people who are saying, you know, she's a twenty one year old.
She might she just got newly engaged. Maybe she wasn't happy twenty one
year old. You know, just sometimes disappear from life. Because Carter had
no thing early on. And Carter had no previous record, right, he
wasn't a criminal mastermind, but he didn't have a criminal run. No,
not at all, not at all. And I'm actually sitting at my desk
right before you called, and I'm listening to the first interview I ever did
with John Carter. And you know, I'm just now in hindsight going back
and listening to in watching the recordings, it fits a little differently. Wow.
And this point he's been free and then sentencings happening. When about two
three weeks July eighteenth, yep, July eighteenth, two thirty and gets anywhere
from probration to a maximum of three years in prison, I would have to
believe. I would have to believe one hundred percent he's going to be maxed
out, because if this guy's not maxed out on an involuntary manslaughter and the
obvious murder of Caitlin Markham, there's no justice. And Butler County judges are
tough. I often remember I had drug cases in Butler County and Hamlety County,
and I have the same set of facts with a different defendant. And
Butler County would frequently send people to prison. Hamilty County woull put them on
probation and get them treatment. And I would have to think the trial judge
in Butler County, knowing everything about this case, knows that Carter got off
light for what he did. And I would assume that Norlinger and Whitlock of
the Butler County Sheriff's Department all are going to continue investigating the case to see
if others might have been involved in desecrating the body and transporting it to Indiana.
I don't know. Did they indicate to you the investigation continues except relative
to John Carter? They did not. But again, right now it's in
the prosecutor's hands. I was speaking with some attorneys though about that. You
know, could anyone be charged with the abuse of a corpse or any other
other crimes? And a lot of those statute of limitations have run out well
in terms of other charges. It would be interesting to see. The only
way it wouldn't run out is if the defendant had voluntarily left the jurisdiction.
And if you're out of the jurisdiction for many years for the purpose of evading
discovery of your crime, then I can toll the statute. But other than
that, after thirteen years, it's done. And well, thank you for
coming on this afternoon, and you've done great work here and at Karen Johnson
of News FI And we'll see what happens down the road. But Ryan Widmer,
he's I assume he's still doing his time. Do you know what I
think that case. I think he might be up for pearl next year.
I think it's been about fifteen years, so he got fifteen a life and
fifteen years is coming. Was justice done? And and Ryan Whitmer's case?
Was justice done? I am not even going there. And I'm not even
going there. People ask my opinion all the time, and I'm not.
I don't discuss opinions. Well, in your opinion, did John Carter get
justice? Did Caitlin Markham get justice? I'm not going there, Willie.
All right, Karen, thank you very much. But no one's followed these
cases and been more involved in you and congratulations, But after all, it's
your job. You do it quite well and Karen Johnson, a News five,
thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show this Tuesday afternoon. Thank
you very much. All right, thank you, Karen. Let's continue with
more and as you know, Hunter Biden has been convicted of all charges,
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right now, Billy Cunningham. Many legal issues are percolating. I was surprised
that the quick conviction of Hunter Biden. The jurors followed the law, they
listened to the facts, and they convicted him of three offenses that carry up
to twenty five years in prison. They include he's, by the way,
Hunter Biden is fifty four years old. He was charged with three different federal
offenses, having committed one act. So making a false claim on the application
is one. So when you buy a weapon, there's a federal firearms form
you fill out in which you say that you're not addicted to drugs and you're
not on drugs. You can be on alcohol, by the way, but
you can't be on illegal drugs. Obviously he was. And secondly, he
was saying he was not a drug abuse and illegally, therefore he didn't have
criminal responsibility, which certainly was not the case. So it was three different
offenses but involved essentially one act committing three offenses. Now it faces up to
twenty five years in prison when sentenced in about three months by Judge Mary Ellen
Noraka, who indicates, by the way, she's a Trump appointee and by
every indication, she tried one heck of a case. The judge set no
date for sentencing, but added the timeline is usually about one hundred and twenty
days, which will put this thing about the middle of October. That'd be
a few a week or two a month before the November fifth presidential election,
I looked at the sentencing guidelines. You know, there's guidelines who add points
and subtract points based upon several factors. It appears the low end of the
federal guidelines is fifteen months and the high end is about twenty one months.
But you can deviate or aggravate based upon the circumstance answers of each person.
When I talk to a couple of criminal defense attorneys, they tell me that
in today's world that a shorter sentence is very likely and he could be not
serve a day in jail. There's no mandatory minimums on this, and he's
less likely to be incarcerated if he abides by the terms of free trial release,
which I think in the sense he has. And so it's just the
worst thing in the world. No, but you can't lie on federal forms
because if you lie in federal forms, literally there's thousands of Americans or serving
time in jail. As I speak. For lying on federal forms, it
depends what you did with the gun thereafter. And in this case, he
had it for eleven days, and I guess that one of his girlfriends at
the time thought that if he continued to have the gun, he was going
to kill himself or use it to do other bad acts with so she put
it in a dumpster near a school. So would I be shocked if he
got fifteen months in jail, Yes, more or less because of his age
and his drug addiction and supposedly his recovery that a federal judge here may cut
him a break. But if it was your son, would you pardon him
or commut a sentence to zero? I know I would. Every man I
speak with says it was your son, and you have the power to pardon
or commut a sentence, what would you do? Everyone has said I pardon
him, and I know President Joe Biden said a few days ago in France
that he's not going to pardoner commuti sentence well after the election. One way
or another, either Joe Biden's going to be a lame duck because he starts
another term in a sense, or secondly he's a lame duck because he lost.
Either way, Joe Biden is going to pardon Hunter Biden. It's just
a done deal. Now there's something else percolating with Hunter Biden. That is
the federal tax charges which I think are the more serious charges in California,
which is going to go to try in September failing to pay one point four
million in taxes and the income was north of four million dollars. So what
did Hunter Biden do as a crack cocaine addict that was worth literally millions and
millions of dollars from Chinese, Ukrainian and Russian interests including Romania. By the
way, he didn't pay taxes. Now, the Feds waited until the FAARA
violations were beyond the statute of limitations. Fare is a foreign Agent Registration Act.
So was Hunter Biden acting on behalf of a foreign government or foreign businesses
to influence an American election or American politics? Answer that question is absolutely yes.
That carries twenty years in jail, and of course it's federal. That
means his dad can pardon for that too. But the legal problems for Hunter
Biden are not over. And this information was gleaned by Congressional Republicans, whof
signaled they will keep going after him, and they're stole in peachment effort that
is the president. Because a president is the dawn of the family. He's
the Marlon Brando of the family. He's the one orchestrating the collection of millions
and millions of dollars from all over the world through his son Hunter another interest.
And as proof of that, two veteran f excuse me I r S
agents named Shapeley and Ziggler both testified under oath about a year ago that they
wanted to pursue a federal criminal fair of violations and tax violations of Hunter Biden
to the tune of tens of millions of dollars. They were blocked by the
I r S Chief Council. The matter got over to the Department of Justice
under Joe Biden, and they decided to give Hunter Biden and Joe Biden a
Texas El Paso. And that's interesting. And in this trial you talk about
a disgusting human being. Shouldn't be sentenced for this. He'll have to answer
God Almighty for these allegations. They allegations. He admitted to it that after
his beloved brother Bo Biden died, who was the Attorney General of Delaware,
spent time in Iraq, came back, ran for political office, was elected.
The attorney general developed brain cancer, and of course the Biden family you
can imagine bo Biden was perceived as the Michael Corleone of the family. He
was the ones going to take over and become senator, become governor, become
president whatever, and he was the age. By every reasonable indications, bo
Biden seemed to be a good man who volunteered when he didn't have to and
served faithfully in a rock as an army officer. When he came back several
years he ran for office and I of course in Delaware. And after he
was dead, of course, his wife Hallie was destroyed emotionally, and so
Hunter Biden prayed upon her emotions started having sex with the widow of his dead
brother. And that wasn't enough. Hunter Biden then hooked her on crack cocaine.
Are you kidding me? No, I'm not kidding you. And it's
obvious he bought and sold drugs for years and years, which, by the
way, how many people are in jail for buying and selling drugs like cocaine?
I think a lot. He also evaded taxes of millions and millions of
dollars to benefit himself, his uncle Jim, and his father Joe, and
other aspects of the Biden family. He also did not register of course,
as a foreign agent working on behalf of foreign corporate interest to influence American domestic
policy. Didn't do any of that, And so this is almost like al
Capone being convicted of a tax violation when he did all these other things anyway,
buying and selling crack cocaine and drugs and methamphetamine. It appears that the
prostitutes he was with were underage, but who knows. And he was so
stupid as to record himself doing this thing, wrote about it and admit it
to years and years of terrible, terrible drug problems, and of course the
money is to bribe his father, Joe. All fueled the drug habits of
Hunter Biden, and in his book Quote Beautiful Things, he talks about hitting
rock bottom after the death of his brother Bow in twenty fifteen and is to
send into serious hardcore drugs led him to do things that no man should ever
do. He said, I was in the throes of addiction, therefore I'm
not responsible. Well, you know, if you're in the throes of alcoholism,
it doesn't mean you can drive drunk. And if you're in the throes
of a cocaine problem, which obviously Hunter Biden is That doesn't mean you can
buy and sell prostitutes, involve yourself in human trafficking, and take millions of
dollars on behalf of your dad, the president, to affect American foreign policy
and including Parisma. He was paid something in the range of eighty five thousand
dollars a month from Resma and Energy company in Ukraine when he had no interest
nobility. It was simply meant to bribe his dad, Joe, who then
got a prosecutor in the Ukraine fired in exchange for a one billion dollar loan
from the Obama administration. I mean, this thing is truly You couldn't make
this up. This is al capone. He did all these other things,
but the FEDS came after him for a form that he checked when he got
a gun for god knows the reason. His attorney, Abbey Lowell, had
argued that Hunter Biden's state of mind was different when he wrote the book than
when he bought the gun. And fortunately the jurors, despite the best efforts
of doctor Joe Biden and the head of the NAACP, did not sway the
jury because this is an open and shutcase. If this guy's name was was
Hunter Smith or Hunter Jones, it never would have come to trial. He
was banking on jury nullification, which is, of course, he committed the
offense. He committed all these crimes. But after all, he's a Biden
and this is Delaware. God blessed that jury for seeing through it and finding
him guilty, and Hunter Biden hoped last year resolved this long standing investigation.
The Feds under Joe Biden agreed to a sweetheart deal to plead guilty to misdemeanor
tax offenses to avoid prosecution and put him on diversion and the grunt and the
gun case if you stayed out of trouble for two years. But the federal
judge say, wait a minute, really, how many tens of millions did
he collect for the Biden family? Is that why Joe Biden has houses on
the coastline of the Landing Ocean when he's never he says, never made more
than four hundred thousand dollars a year his entire life? Is that the reason?
And the judge said, this isn't fair, this isn't right. So
they waited till the more serious allegations of affair of violation had the statute ran.
Then they had hopes that the jury in Wilmington, Delaware would give him
a Biden immunity, and it didn't happen, And so this could be used
as an excuse by the President to get out of the race himself. He
might say, look, I have too many family difficulties and obviously I want
to spend more time with Hunter, and I'm not going to run for president.
I continue to say, write this down. Today's date is January,
as June the eleventh, Write this down. I still do not believe that
Joe Biden is going to be the Democratic nominee. He is so bad and
getting worse, and the media has covered for him for so long that the
House of Cards there's a good name for a TV show, House of Cards
will collapse, and that at some point, whoever the leaders of the Democrat
Party might be nationally is going to go to him and say, we can't
do it. And by the way, Kamala Harris, we can't do it
with you either, because you're worse than Joe Biden. Let's go get the
governor of California, maybe get the governor of Michigan, Whitmer, and and
see what happens. But the leaders of the Democrat Party nationally. I'm told
by one or two prominent United States Senators Republicans that there's lots of rumors in
the background that the last effort by Biden's day is the nominee of the party
is the June twenty seventh debate with Trump, which is why they scheduled it.
Joe Biden had nothing to do with it. The handler said, let's
put him out there June twenty seventh, and if he fails miserably, that
gives us about seven weeks to make the change, to prepare the people for
Gavin Newsom or Governor Whittmer or someone else, and they will run over the
top of Kamala Harris because Kamala Harris is a clown and she can't be the
president. She might do worse than Joe Biden's going to do, So we'll
see what happens with that. Also, Karen Johnson does great work with John
Carter and with Caitlin Markham, twenty two year old girl killed by John Carter,
and that law enforcement has told me that the first year or two of
the case, it was completely screwed up. I don't want to mention names.
I won't do that I have great respect for police officers. But nonetheless,
by the time that Butler County Sheriff's Office took over Detective Norlinger and Sergeant
Whitlock, the pros got involved, they brought in BCI and by that case,
by that time they couldn't they didn't think make a murder case. And
as to the credit of Prosecutor Mesure and Butler County said, look, it's
been thirteen years, let's file the indictment. Let's bring him to trial.
It's got to be concluded one way or another. Let's do it. Butler
County juries, as you may know, are very difficult. It's a criminal
defense attorney. You don't want to go to a trial on an if he
case in Butler County because you're going to be convicted. In Hamlet the county,
go to an if he case, you're going to be acquitted. But
in Butler County it's going to be difficult. So I'm told that John Carter's
attorneys went to Mike Moser, the county prosecutor, and said, we have
a deal for you, And they cogitated for a while and got with Dave
Markham, the father of Caitlin, and said what do you want, And
you may have heard him the other day with Scott Sloan talking about it,
he'd rather have murder for the rest of his life because everyone connected to the
case firmly believes that this was a murder, not some involuntary manslaughter, which
is something unintentional, purposeful killing of another. In Ohio, no person shall
cause the death of another as approximate result of the offenders committing or attempting to
commit a felony imagined the felon you might be aggravated assault, which is an
F five. And that was and he pled guilty, which means he admits.
Sometimes in a criminal case, you complete guilty when you don't admit you
did it, but you fear longer sentences if you're convicted. That's not the
case, Mose you're the prosecutor. And Dave Markham the day had wanted to
hear the word guilty coming out of John Carter's mouth, that he killed his
girl, and he got that. Now in July he's going to get the
max, which is about three years, and he could be out within a
year and a half for two years, so we'll see what happens there.
Let's continue with more coming up next is Tim Hale, a name not familiar
to you or to me until recently, but Tim Hale was one of the
individuals, one of the fourteen or fifteen hundred swept up in January the sixth.
More and more is coming out about it, including this information about Nancy
Pelosi, which is truly remarkable. And when this was made public by HBO
a few days ago, it met with a thud. The media largely did
not cover it. But as you'll remember, going back in January sixth,
the FBI and others had sent repeated emails to the powers that be in Washington
that there's maybe as many as one hundred thousand angry people coming to the Capitol
January the sixth, and the FBI sent that in when one hundred thousand people
move around the country simultaneously coming to one location, whether it's buses, planes,
trains, whatever it might be, law enforcement knows about that. And
they sent the missives to Nancy Pelosi's office, Speaker of the House. She
sent it on to the Capitol Police and on him to the mayor Bowser,
and it kind of died right there. But now in a tape that Nancy
Pelosi says, quote I take responsibility quote unquote for not calling out the National
Guard. If the National Guard been called out, none of January sixth would
have happened. And away we go. So these comments of Nancy Pelosi,
of course they're accurate. And by the way, the January sixth Committee did
not play any of this for you about Nancy Pelosi admitting that was her responsibility
to guard the Capitol and she failed to do so. So next up is
Tim Hale, a January sixth defendant who spent about three years in gutteral prison
and the over one year and solitary confinement inside of Washington, d c.
Jail, one of the worst places on earth to be and they kept them
locked up for many times over a year without trial, which is, by
the way, illegal. Tim Hale is next. Stay tuned for this twelve
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cutting him the great American. Of course, the Democratic Party is going to
run once again on January the sixth, and I watch MSNBC, so you
don't have to. That's what they deal with, and every afternoon and every
evening it won't go away because they see that as a winner politically. Along
with abortion, killing as many unborn healthy babies as possible are the two main
causes of the Democrat Party in this election. One of the persons swept up
in this was Tim Hale, who was a January sixth defendant. I understand
he was sentenced to about four years in federal prison. Did about three He
joins us now in Tim Hale, welcome, I think for the first time
to the Bill Cunningham Show. And I think many Americans would like to know
your involvement in January sixth. But first of all, the temper of the
times. Why did you go there? What was your expectation? And give
us the temper of the crowd before it entered the Capitol. Well, sure,
well, thank you for having me on, Bill. Absolutely what happened
that day. I was there after an overnight shift. I was working as
a naval security contractor, a weapons contractor. I'd worked for the government for
about twelve years actually. So I got off of my overnight shift and I
blasted down the road DC from Jersey, and you know, I went there
in a suit and a tie thinking it was just going to be a speech.
So for me and I think a lot of people, was just going
to be historic day. I thought either it would be the last, you
know, public speech of President Trump's you know, only term, or god
willing, it would be the beginning of his second term, you know,
and we would pull a rabbit out of that. It was historic, it
just wasn't historic in the way that a lot of us had expected. And
so the benefit of being out now is that I've released a lot of video
from my phone, and I think this is why they kept a lot of
us in solitary confinement for so long as they didn't want the public to see
this video. You know, the public has seen the same twenty second clips
of January sixth, of someone like breaking a window or something like that for
three years. But the truth is that if you look at the video I
have, people were just listening peacefully to Trump's speech at the Ellipse and you
know, by the Washington Monument, that area in DC and then they just
gradually and slowly meandered towards the Capitol building. What people don't realize is that
a half hour before we show up, a guy named Reyes who's a federal
informant, and a bunch of you know, proud boys who were likely infiltrated,
they breached a perimeter which was guarded by about five Capitol police, and
this perimeter, which consists basically of bike racks, gets knocked over, and
people don't know that. So this is this is before Trump's speech is finished.
And what ends up happening is because these perimeters were knocked down are basically
erased, and the fencing around it too, like little mesh fencing was all
cut down as well, thousands and thousands of people unsuspectingly pour into the area,
not knowing that there is any restricted restricted area at all, so they
think that they're just there for a protest, the First Amendment demonstration, which
they are. And the video approves this. I have video where we're just
we're singing God Bless America, We're singing the national anthem, you know,
we're chanting Christ King, you know, we're just having a good time.
We're peacefully demonstrating, people are waving their flags and all that chanting USA USA.
What ends up happening is, again a lot of most people don't know
they're not allowed to be there, and so the Capitol Police basically don't know
what they're doing. A lot of them are completely unprepared, and then eventually
the Metro Police. Actually, I want to put most of this on the
Metro PD. There were probably elements inside the Capitol PD who set this up,
but the Metro PD are the ones who escalated it into a full blown
riot. They started throwing flash bang grenades at old ladies in the middle of
the crowd who weren't even doing anything. And then you had agitators who were
planted inside of the crowd who were basically giving the cops an excuse to attack
the crowd, and this created a snowball effect. The average person has no
idea about this, but I have video and if you if you go to
my Twitter account Tim Hale criminally Funny Jay sixer, you can see some of
this video. Anybody wasn't there doesn't know the story. So Tim Hale,
you were not part of some grand conspiracy of the Proud Boys. You're a
naval contractor. You're about two hundred and fifty miles away. You thought,
you know, I love Donald Trump. Let's go to hear the speech which
he gave. He said, go to the Capitol and protest peacefully. And
you're there. You weren't part of some grand conspiracy. You were a person
that said this might be an historical event, have some free time, let's
get to Washington, d C. And then all of a sudden, like
a wave, you were swept up in this thing. And have you seen
the HBO document on what happened with Nancy Pelosi? It's now available that she
says, I take responsibility for not protecting the Capitol and this was Nancy Pelosi.
Of course this was not well shall we say, disseminated the last few
days because it doesn't fit the die tribe. But what happened on that day?
But have you seen the h footage about Nancy Pelosi yelling at her chief
of staff. Why wasn't the National Guard here? I take responsibility for that?
And that is not even today. It's not a big news item.
It came out to the last three or four days, but it's not a
big news item. Why is that? Well, because she was a part
of it, and you know, I hinted that this was sort of an
inside job. There's actually body camera footage from the Metro PD and they're yelling.
They're yelling because they're they're completely outnumbered, and they say, they set
us up, they set us up. And the question is who's they?
The Metro PED answer to Mayor Bowser, and the Capital PD answered to Nancy
Pelosi. So they were obviously set up by the Democrats in DC because we
know Trump offered them National Guard support. We also know that Nancy Pelosi's daughter
was filming the documentary, and I actually happen to know from being inside the
DC Gulag that there were two federal informants named Nathan mcgrave and Ronald Sandlin,
and they were cored and they were trying to work footage. They were trying
to work with Nancy Pelosi's daughter. They were there with a film basically with
camera camera crews. So there were a lot of informants there to stage events
so that it could be sold or recycled as insurrection propaganda. And that's also
we're going to talk about the fifteen twelve charge. Eighteen USC. Fifteen twelve
was first upheld in federal court for those very two informants. So federal informants
are the first defendants who had the fifteen twelve upheld. And that same charge
wasn't just used against Jay sixth defendants, it's also now being used against President
Trump. So this was coordinated years in advance. So you think who was
coordinating. Alexandra, who's the daughter of Nancy Pelosi, has the video which
wasn't given to the January sixth committee, and what she says to her chief
of staff. Quote this Nancy Pelosi yelling in the back of a limousine,
we have responsibility, Terry. Terry being her chief of staff, we did
not have any accountability for what was going on there. We should have.
This is ridiculous. And she's screaming this quote. You're gonna ask me in
the middle of this thing when they already preached the Capitol and that stuff.
I'm responsible for this. Why didn't we do more? That's Nancy Pelosi saying
that. But tell me from your perspective, Tim Hale, how was this
who conducted the conspiracy? Why did this happen? How come there were bicycle
racks and no one in the Capitol or Bowser. Listen to Donald Trump who
said get the National Guard there. They were quickly overwhelmed, and all of
a sudden you were in a wave. Did you commit any criminal acts in
the Capitol like destruction of property, breaking down doors, destroying windows? What
did Tim Hale do on that day? Yeah? No, I mean,
look, I'm very open about the fact that I, like, I've been
in internet troll for like fourteen years. I'm an amateur comedian. You know,
I'm kind of a smart guy. But I was there in a suit
and tie. I went to Men's warehouse the night before to get brand new
dress shoes. I did try to be as respectful as possible. Well when
I went there that day, you know, I did want to be as
as much of a representative or as much of a good citizen as I possibly
could. So when I went into the Capitol building, I just wandered around.
So I didn't assault anybody. I didn't break anything, I didn't steal
anything, and most people didn't. And so if you look at the CCTV
footage, I'm in the an area called the crypt I'm looking at the statues,
you know. I actually there's a dorky cliff of me dancing inside the
Capital Visitor Center. You know, I'm just having a good time. I
don't there's no riot from my perspective. And so I actually I actually talked
to the Capitol Police they like for about ten minutes and like, oh,
you guys got to go, And so they actually directed us out. You
know, we followed them out of the building. It was a totally different
story than what you see on CNN. And so yeah, absolutely, most
people who were inside the building. You can even see the footage of them
walking through velvet ropes like it's a museum. It's like it's a poor So
absolutely not Nancy Pelosi yelling and her chief of staff that afternoon quote they thought
they had some resources. That's Nancy Pelosi's chief of staff of Terry McCullough,
referring to the Capitol Police. And then she says, it's not a question
of how they had. They don't know. They clearly didn't know the problems,
and I take responsibility for not having them to be prepared more. That's
Nancy Pelosi out of her mouth. So why didn't the January sixth committee put
that out there? I'm gonna say probably because it was a fake committee and
it was a partisan witch hunt more than likely. I remember watching those when
I was actually in the in the gulag still and they were just absolutely fake.
Most of the testimony you got from say Capitol police officers completely fake.
They lied about what the oathkeepers did, they lied about the initial breech,
they lied about everything, and the video corroborates this. This isn't even in
my opinion. The unfortunate thing is that it's just taken so many years for
the truce to finally come out, and they mean, that's really that's really
it is, and you know nobody's going to be held responsible for it.
That's a real crime. No, no, nothing U. So you're in
the Capitol. It appears you're being let in by the Capitol police. You
walk into the Capitol, walk around looking at stuff, and you leave.
How did the FBI finally find Tim Hale and put you in the handcuffs?
This is a convoluted story. But I was living on the Navy base that
I actually worked on, and my roommate was turned into an informant by NCIS,
so they had him wear a wire to get me say incriminating stuff.
I was partially set up by the management at the job I was the contractor
because that was also the union rep. So I didn't have a very good
relationship with management, as you can imagine how labor disputes go. So they
ended up they knew they knew that I was there, they just didn't know
the details. So they ended up giving a tip to NCIS. And so
basically they were stalking me for about a week until they finally grabbed me.
And it's basically it. And they threw the book at you. How many
weeks or months passed from January sixth until the handcuffs got on you? One
week and then I spent I spent a year in solitary confinement in Washington,
d C. After that, I was in the DC Gulag for about two
years, and then I was in a federal prison at FCI for Dix and
Jersey for about another year after that. So thank god, uh, thank
god President Trump's signed the first step factor I might have had to do a
longer sentence only I only had to do three years out of four. But
you know, thank God for criminal justice reform, or I would have done
more time. How many are still locked up in the solitary confinement of the
Washington d C jails. How many of other J six co defendants are still
locked up? I think there's probably less than thirty now, but there are
still there. I'm gonna say there are hundreds of people who are who are
in jails and prisons throughout the country. So it's not just Washington d C.
It's kind of like the Gulag Archipelago. You know, it's not you
know, there's there are, It's just like there there are many many facilities
that the Feds have scattered throughout the country, and J six defendants are being
held there totally out of sight and out of mind. And this is on
top of the fact that there are over fourteen hundred people who've been charged so
far, and now they're bragging they're going to probably get up to two thousand
before the election. What were the conditions in the in the Washington d C
jail when you talk about the goolag and solitary confinement described to the American people
the conditions without embellishing, I'll say this, the conditions probably did improve after
the first year, but in the first year you were in solitary confinement for
twenty three hours a day, You were only allowed out for a shower and
maybe a fifteen minute phone call. That wasn't always guaranteed because there were so
many people in there and only four phones. You kind of had to you
know, it was kind of a gamble. You were not allowed to have
visitation with family. You were rarely allowed to see your own lawyer. They
refute for some time. They refused to give you your own discovery so you
could actually work on your case, your evidence. You were not allowed to
have religious services. You were not allowed to groom, so I went sixteen
months before I could get a haircut. My hair was down to my back.
They would not give us speedy trials, so again sixteen months. It
took me a year and a half for me to get trial or to go
to trial. And you're supposed to be able to do that thanks to the
Speedy Trial Act, within seventy days. I had to wait sixteen months.
And so keep in mind again we're in solitary confinement for most of this,
and even after they end a solitary portion of it, you're still you're barely
able to go outside. You can't see sunlight, there's no nutritional food.
You know, it's jail, so I don't expect people to care too much
about jail food. But there was no meat. There was no fruit.
It was just you know, broccoli stems or it was soy paddies. People
were developing health issues because of it. On that subject. It was no
healthcare. There were no doctors there. Anytime I tried to get a furlough
for an ear infection, I was denied. And so, you know,
it basically was like a third world country. And most of the staff,
I'm not saying this to be mean, most of the staff are foreigners,
so they barely spoke English and they didn't care. And that's you know,
the unfortunate thing is like, again, it's not a part of aan issue.
This could happen to us, It can happen to anybody, and so
that whole system needs to be changed. It's just a disaster. Tim Hale,
Did you have television? Did you have books? Did you have exercise
equipment? What did you have in solitary confinement? Just a bet and that's
it. In solitary you had a one inch thick mattress with no pillow.
It was like a foam mattress on a metal frame. You were in basically
a seven foot cube for lack of a better term. You had a two
inch window slit that was kind of corroded, but you could sort of see
out of the window. You couldn't see much though, because it was just
a graveyard behind you. So the dcjail has a parking lot for the officers
to park in and a graveyard, so you could see graves, which is
very encouraging. And that was pretty much it. In terms of workout equipment,
there was a gym we were never really allowed to go in, and
the like two or three times they actually ended up bringing us over there for
like an hour. All the equipment's broken, the floor tiles are broken,
everything's falling apart, and then there's a TV, but it's always put on
unsurprisingly liberal liberal news at MSNBC and CNN. I imagine, yep, yep.
Absolutely, you got to represent right and then uh and then occasionally you
could order you could have books sent in, but because the mail room takes
like two months to give you anything that comes in, they like I was
getting I was getting letters from Thanksgiving in April, you know, like they
so, I mean, you're lucky, good good luck if that happens Tim
Hale will have to run. How did the American people access you? What
is your what is your ex account? Or Facebook? How can people contact
you? You can find me on x if you type in Tim Hale criminally
funny Jay sixer and you know, if you're interested in finding out more information
about all the other families too, you can go to Patriot Freedom Project dot
com. It's a charity that my family set up. It's endorsed by President
Trump and basically it's just a fun to help with a lot of the you
know, financial burdens of the defendants and their families because a lot of these
guys were the bread winners, and so you're I got I got lucky in
that regard. I'm not married, I don't have kids. A lot of
these guys aren't so lucky, and so it's really hard for these families to
get by. We have to run. But you went there a suit and
a tie and a brand pair of shoes, ended up in stripes and served
three or four years. It's not what people and it's not what we think
is United States of America. I think you should have hung a Hummas flag
around the shoulders of George Washington in which case you would have been wined,
dined, and pocket lined. But Tim Hale, once again, thank you
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and thank you for telling us your
story. Thank you for having me on. I reallyppreciate it. God bless
you, God Bless America. Bill Cunningham, seven hundred LW you sailed beyond
the horizon in search of an island scrubbed from The only pitch I knew I
throw was a fasketball I know, a curveball, slider change. I don't
know anything about that. My dad says, rare vack and let her flies.
And that's all I did. The first pitch was high, if I
remember Kresley was high and outside. As I was going to thought right to
the back of Crosley Fields. Oh hello, Biet, I'm Skulls. I'm
broadcasting, you know, saying we've had all the best. Now we got
the number one team in Ohio here Division one Baseball champions, which is the
Mason Commets. I talked to coach, you should change your name to the
transmitter. Well, let's face it, Coach Bly is here and Coach I
understand off the air that originally the team is going to be the Towers.
Is that correct? Legend has a guest. We were without any years when
our school started, and there was a student vote because of the WLW Tower
that they wanted to be the Towers, and that was discussed and the name
comments came out of that conversation. That's that's the lore. But you're our
number one team because without you, we couldn't broadcast the Mason without the Mason
Comments. And I'm the designated survivor if America is destroyed. I've been asked
by the federal government to go underground, under the transmitter and broadcast. And
that's just the information, last the truth. I don't know who he's going
to talk to will be dead. But introduce your players one by one and
talk about these kids. They did something that's never been done before. In
eighty eight years, they've never Mason's won state titles and everything except baseball.
I think you were there three times and loss. This year, you went
undefeated, untied, unscored on. Now identify the players and what they did.
If anything, well, most of that's true. If I'm half true.
At the time, I feel good. No, the guys we brought
with us, obviously we have a lot of guys that aren't with us today,
they're truly outstanding. But the four players that came with us. We
have Mark Rutherford, He's our starting catcher this year. That's the catcher I
can take the title game, right. He did two hits. Anthony Sulik
are starting shortstop. He's with us as well. Had all three RBIs in
the regional championship game. That was a big game, by the way it
was. It was. And Brad Hard our starting center fielder. Is he
quick? Is he fast? He is? He is quicker than you expect.
We'll just say that. Does he run faster than Dela Cruz or Jamar
Chase, which is fast? I don't think can drive faster than Dayla Cruz
can run, but he can he can get a ball down. He can.
Before we go to your star pitcher, let me ask you this.
I've had the idea that Dela Cruz needs to play for the Bengals. He
could play wide receiver and catch balls that Jamar Chase couldn't. Is it true
that a baseball player is so good athletically they could play any sport, including
football, basketball, lacrosse, which is cultural misappropriation those that's an Indians or
you can't say that. Couldn't they play any sport Hall of Famers. There
are plenty of people that say baseball players can play other sports much better than
other other athletes can play baseball because of the hand, eye coordination and the
other things that's required. I mean, there's plenty of videos out there of
NBA players trying to hit a baseball in it they can't look good. But
you talk about your star pitcher and what he did, he was like the
Jose Rio of your team. Yeah, Michael Blow, you know, one
of one of our top arms. Michael's then truly an outstanding in the tournament.
Threw a no hitter against Mohler in the regional final and then was our
winning pitcher in the state championship. How good is he? He's outstanding,
outstanding And what makes him great? I mean he's high spin fastball in the
nineties, great slider. But his mentality is competitiveness. He's a bulldog,
he's a dirty, nasty he says three words. I don't know why we
brought him on. Your words, you're not gonna You're not gonna get much
out of him, but he's he's get that'll change Marty Brennan and the Hall
of Famers or Marty, this is baseball row right saying about me. I
just came out to congratulate him and once again pre what a great baseball era
this is at the high school level. Coach, congratulations, unbelievable and Marty
eighty eight years they've been around, and they it's the first time they've ever
won. To stay title and think about that, it's a sensation. I
think it's wonderful. A full leg hell for him. Absolutely. Now how
many times let's talk about Joe Knuxhall just briefly. We just had to cut
a Joe on. I did some research and I found this Indian named Chapman.
They called him why Whoo Chapman in eighteen eighty seven that pitched an inning
for the Philadelphia Blies. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I
was around there, You were there. Yeah. Is Joe still the youngest
guy ever to play in the major leagues? Hiss fight wahoo? Yeah you
think so, Chapman, I'll give you the art. I don't count.
That's a pre nineteen hundred treat to nineteen hundred that didn't even count. It
doesn't count. No, knucksall is fifteen, no question, fifteen gets it
done? Well? What if they can that picture right there and put him
on the mound right now against Cleveland. What do you think, As good
as he's pitched, as confident as he is, I take him a chance,
Take him a chance, no question. Say give him some quick sports
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due to ped use prior to the season, he has returned. Bengals opened
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Spike speaking to the masses. What did he say? Rehabs going?
Well, the risk is great. He's learning to play the piano, eh,
much like Mozart, Beethoven and Rock Moninoff coach. Was there a game
and there was a time. I have a lot of good friends at Mauler
High School, including Walt Sweeney, his boy plays for More And they went
into the game thinking the head in the bag is that Mason's never won it.
We've won the state title many times and Mason doesn't know what it takes
to beat Maler High School. Was that the biggest game that you had this
year to beat Maller? Well, at that point it was, and I
mean we we've actually had some success against him over the last several years.
It beat the crap out him on a regular basis. We've won some regional
championships against them. Do you go harder against them? Do you pitch harder
against Maller than you might pitch against Deer Park, for example, did you
play Deer Park this year? No, there's a little when we're playing moreers,
a little behind every pitch. Why you want to win? That's Montgomery
Road. You want to win. You want to win, and you did.
He's got a perfect game, right, No hitter. Sorry, no
hitter. It's pretty good too. But you know, hit Mauler High School
when it mattered. Will you ever forget that? Now you're going to be
a grandfather and you'll remember that game. And where's the ball? Where's the
ball of the championship game? Where's the ball? Right there? Segment?
Don't lose that, but you're going to show it. Everybody, put up
everybody? What about the ball that beat Molor High School? Where's that going?
It's in the ball bag, It's in the bag, It's in the
bag. How does that look next year? Coach for the team, you're
our team, you're the transmitter. How does it look? Well, obviously
we're graduating seventeen seniors, so that's that's a lot of a lot of problem.
Uh. You know, we feel real confident that the younger guys are
going to be filling those spots, and we've been fortunate to have a lot
of talented guys come through. Many of these guys were sophomores on our twenty
two regional championship team. Got close, and it got and they went to
the state and we didn't get it done that year, but you know,
they they were the guys that filled in for that class that graduated. So
we're you know, it's gonna take some work to replace seventeen. That's a
big number. You don't rebuild your reload. Well, we hope to.
We hope too. Segment, Please continue with sports and b brief. Willy
the US opened Thursday. T times are out, Jim Herman. It's going
to go at eight forty six am. How about this threesome at one fourteen
pm. Write this down, McElroy, Schaffley, Scheffler. Pretty good?
How about that? Not bad? Tiger Woods will tee off at seven thirty
tomorrow morning or went on Thursday morning. Wyndham Clark, the defending champ at
won twenty five and USA Basketball says experience was the major reason Caitlin Clark was
not on the US women's Olympic roster. That's a bunch of bs, right,
thank you very much. Just put her on there. I bet you
NBC's going nuts well because she would bring ratings to it, like look,
look she's done to the WNBA, and all they do is complain about her.
They got free jets right now, they got more money, got arenas
filled up, and they don't want her exactly. Unbelievable. It's all her
fault. Tell me that it was there a critical moment this year when your
backs are up against the wall, all the errors are being made, RBIs
were not being hit up against the Why you that, my God, is
not going to happen. This is the team that's built up for eighty eight
years. Generations onborn will look back upon twenty twenty four and say, you
may go on to win fifty more state titles, but twenty twenty four was
the first. Was there a game that you thought, okay, at all
is going to collapse and no ball is self pity. No, I don't
say that. No. There was a game though, that you know we
played up at Defiance High School against Grove City where gro CEA is a great
team, a great program. Actually we lost to them in the state semi
in twenty two, and we kind of let that one slip away. And
we kind of had a team meeting and I know the boys talked without the
coaches and about you know, we needed to kind of clear some things up
if we were going to be able to do what we think we were capable
of. And from that point forward, they they got it done. How's
the amazing community embraced you, if at all? Because Scott Sloan here has
said he will buy rings for all forty times, I mean it's forty or
fift we got it on tape. Are the rings coming through Scott Sloan or
through the Board of Education? Well, we've we've heard the rumor of what
you said on the radio, so when you say it on the radio,
we believe it. So but in terms of the rings, that that's in
the early stages. Early stages, early stage. You want to have the
negotiations go yeah, go for the high number. Things like that, I'm
gonna talk to the let me talk to the catcher. And the championship game,
I think he won that like eight to one? Is that correct?
Eight to one? He your star pitcher wasn't on the mound, right,
And the championship game you did that and you also did the Moller game right,
uh. One. And when you give him the one? What was
that? Was that the express? Or was that Uncle Charlie? Yeah?
The express? Mean don't as far as you can? Right? That puts
it in more more more, luckily is what I want it over ninety?
How about the about? How about Lord Charles? Was it Uncle Charlie or
was it Lord Charles? What was his spin rate? I want to know
right now? What was his spin rate? I have no idea in my
brain. It put down the two, put down the two? What's three?
What about three? You having three? It's a one, two and
four basketball slider change with? What about the slip pitch? Have you thought
about the screwball? Have you thought about the split singer? Pitch? Went
out when you were playing? No slip pitch? I don't think you have
one. How about knuckles? No, No, you don't need it.
Where are you going to college? If anywhere? What do you What do
you want to be when you grow up? If anything? Hopeful be a
ballplayer? Hopefully a baseball player. And the Reds have been in touch with
you, Karen Kraft and the people down there with the Reds. Is that
right correct? Let's talk to the center field or he ran like Eric Eric
Davis in his prime. What was the best catch you made a Mason High
School in your career? Get up to the mike here, I've made a
couple of good catches. Give me one up against the wall. You're juggling
the ball and you bite it. What happened? There was a memorable one
we played Mola at Prasco. I think Carter Christian sid hit won. It
was pretty well hit, still still still rising, still going. It was
a very memorable cash for me. Over my head. I had to turn
around and I caught like Willie Mays in nineteen fifty four, remember that in
the polo grounds. Not quite as good, but it was close. Let's
talk to the shortstop, the Barry Lark end of the team. Was there
a play this year? The double play, triple play, quadruple play.
That was the key and it all began with you. Oh for me,
it was in the district championship. Our pitcher j Hanley, he had a
no hitter going in the seventh and their ball hit sharply in the hole,
I mean popped up first, just like Dela Cruz would have done. Oh
yeah, is that correct? Let me ask some questions what's the square root
of thirty six? Who is the governor of Ohio? The line? What's
the capital of the state of Michigan Lansing? Damn? How about how about
the capital of Kentucky Frankfurt. He's going to be a What are you going
to be when you grow up? Hopefully a doctor or something like that in
sports, Well kind of doctor like a Tim kremcheck on the side. And
right now, what bonus connected to humorous? Humorous? Your owner? And
how about the femur you have your tivio, your fortella? Damn? Excuse
me, thank you? Yeah, excuse how about that? All right?
That's not bad? All right? What's the capital at the center. You're
going to be a finance man? Right, he's he's going to go down
He's going to be downstairs working at ubs. Well, please buy media,
make us a better company. We use up up the number a little bit.
You may do lots of things in your lives. Hopefully you'll become husbands
and fathers, then you become grandfathers. Then you move on with the life.
But you had an opportunity a couple week or so ago to do something
that's never been done. Think of the thousands and thousands of boys that have
come through Mason High schools in nineteen eighty eight, and they're all most of
them are good kids and good team. But you had the chance to grab
the ring and do something that never been done before. You did it.
Let that accomplishment be a springboard and a platform to other greatness in your life.
Become a doctor, become a finance major, go teach high school and
become an athletic director, go to the major leagues. But you'll do all
those things in your life, but you will never again have the first chance
to win the state title. And you Ford did it. Congratulations on life
so far well led coach bly did you give him a great speech before the
last game? What was it? Win one for the will he come out
and talk? We we just talked about being ourselves and you know when you
when you get on a big stage like that, sometimes it's rarefied air and
it can be hard to breathe. And we talked about understanding that the stage
is big, but what what's required to win isn't elevated. It's the same
as it always is. And they went out there and played a clean game.
We didn't make an air in the entire postseason. Say that no error,
not an era in the entire postseason. And the guys that was that
was the strength of our team. And now pitching in our defense let us
to the end. And they were themselves in that last game and they got
it done. The catcher, what is the distance from home plate directly to
second base in a straight line? One hundred and twenty seven feet three and
three inches. Everyone knows that to so you don't know how far it was.
But you threw people out all the time. Uh, no time about
try bess all the time. Congratulate. You'll never have the opportunity to do
what you did rarely in life. You get this opportunity and you force succeeded
magnificently. You're the hometown team of seven hundred WLW segment coach, congratulations,
Thank you, segment, get me out of the student's report, Willie,
and honor of the Mason Comets, the state champions and Division one Baseball for
twenty twenty four. We leave you with the immortal words of the Stood report.
We're out of Detroit. Thank you, thank you for Mason. Congratulations.
Coming up next as analysis of the Hunter Biden convictions by the way,
don't buy guns illegally, don't use drugs, and don't cheating your taxes.
You promise God bless America. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham seven hundred wlb A
thousand oughts. I make you, I'll break a thousand all Baby, be
by too. I want to be aby. I'm in a half that I'm
bad at the bone, bad of the bone, bad of the bowl by
cunning In. The Great American Reds Baseball kicks off about six ten to night
with Lance McAllister and more Cleveland in town for two off on Thursday in Milwaukee,
Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Next five games should say a lot about
the direction of the club. They went one to nine, then they go
fourteen and three. So which club is it? I'm not sure we'll find
out. But there's so many legal cases percolating right now, including Caitlyn Markham
and John Carter, and I have great empathy for Dave Markham, the father
of Caitlin, having gone through a living hell the past thirteen years, I'm
not sure justice was done. Plus we have the convictions of Hunter Biden many
break that it would not happen in the home of Joe Biden, Wilmington,
Delaware. But it did. Joining you and I out to break it all
down is the great criminal offense. Attorney James Bogan and James welcome again to
the Bill Cunningham Show. First of all, neither one of us have met
any behind the scenes reporting on State of Ohio versus John Carter. He's the
fiance who now is convicted of killing Caitlyn Markham. Seemingly they could not prove
murder and so since obviously he murdered her, but the state took an involuntary
manslaughter. What's behind the scenes you think behind that case? Well, I'll
say this, John Carter has excellent lawyers, Chris Pagan, Lawrence Hawkins and
Jacob Long. Those three guys are excellent lawyers and they definitely do their jobs,
and in this case they did. And I saw what the Butler County
prosecutors said about it, where he thought there would be difficulties with proof,
And obviously I haven't looked at any of the discovery in the case, but
I have no reason not to take him at his word. So according to
mose Or the prosecutor, they do not have fingerprints, do not have DNA.
Of course, they had no eyewitnesses, strictly a circumstantial case with him
making nine to one one calls that did not appear to be appropriate. And
when the officers involved in this who got involved later in the case, Detective
Joe Kneelinger and Sergeant Rob at Whitlock, working with Richard K. Jones,
who I think is going to be with us tomorrow, they kind of determined,
although it wasn't completely fair because they think it was a murder and they
think the case is still open, but this is the best thing could get
based upon what they had. And I would imagine that Carter is thinking,
and the lawyers, there's three lawyers are great barristers, were thinking, well,
we're going to go to try a case before a Butler County jury,
and that's a that's a tough road to hoe right there, because they find
almost everybody guilty. And if he was found guilty of murder and it was
sustained on appeal, he'd be looking at maybe the rest of his life in
jail. So they took the three years. If you were in their shoes
and you're in an ify murder case and you went to the prosecution, maybe
Melissa Powerson said we'll take an involuntary Is that normally done or normally not done?
That's not very common. I'm sure the prosecutors had a good reason.
I mean, the one thing I will say, you know Chris Peeg and
the one thing I think think with him is laser precision. And then Laurence
Hawkins actually went to law school with them. Among other things. That guy's
a black belt, so you could probably guess what kind of constitution that guy
has. He's nicest guy in the world too, very good trial lawyer.
And Jacob Long he does a very good job too. You got those three
guys working together, hitting all the details. I mean, I'll be honest,
this result doesn't surprise That kind of work from them doesn't surprise me.
Well, he's going to be sentenced, I would think to the max.
Would you agree in about three weeks. I can't imagine the judge giving him
a break. He's going to get all three years. I would be surprised.
Yet, usually on a homicide, on a murder case, when it's
reduced to a manslaughter typically I've seen judges give them the maximum in the manslaughter
charge. That's been my experience. So when will he be out of jail
in Ohio if he keeps his nose clean in prison, maybe two two and
a half years. I think three, you know, just depends. You
get up to five days a month good time credit, but those are not
guaranteed. Five days and months would be sixty days a year after two years
be one hundred and twenty, which is what three months. Well, I'm
not sure justice was done, and according to the police working with Sheriff Fricherick
K. Jones, the case is still open in a sense, but as
far as desecration of a corpse or assisting and the only statute of limitations that
would remain would be murder assisting in the commission of a murder. That's still
out there. But both of them believe that Caitlin's body was assisted with someone
to get her remains out to Indiana. But I will see what happened.
Let's move on to Hunter Biden. He faced three counts, convicted and all
just politically. Were you a little surprised that at Wilmington, Delaware jury convicted
him. Yeah, I mean, on one hand, I'm not surprised because
the evidence. On the other hand, though, I was definitely concerned like
you about the possibilities from home cooking, and it didn't happen. The jurors
are going to speak tonight or later on, they're going to speak. But
wasn't this the most open and shut case you've heard in a long time on
a fee, on a federal criminal case. It was on. You had
to defend that Hunter Biden his own words, talking about what he was doing
at the same time he was lying on the form. This wasn't some witness.
Hunter Biden himself convicted. Hunter Biden. That's tough to get around.
That was his version of OJ Simpson, if I did it. And you
know the thing that stick out to me about the evidence Hallie Biden, who
is his late brother's widow who he had relationship with. She's the one who
found the gun in his truck in twenty eighteen, along with drug residue and
drug paraphernalia. That doesn't exactly help him. And then there was an infamous
laptop, the one that his dad, Joe Biden said in twenty twenty was
a Russian hopes that you had messages on his iCloud account that were on the
laptop. You had one message that said Hunter Biden said he was meeting a
dealer named Mooki near the minor League ballpark in Wilmington, Delaware, and that
he was smoking crab in a car at a street corner in downtown Wilmington the
day after the gun purchase and on October eleven, twenty eighteen. The purchase
was on October twelfth, twenty eighteen, he was spending quite a bit of
time text messaging this guy named Q to meet up at seven eleven, and
Q was later identified as a dealer named Eladio Otero Junior, who last June
pled guilty to using a communication device to facilitate a drug deal and got fifteen
months. And there was regular communication on by Hunter Biden and his messages to
meet at at seven to eleven. And when you're texting to meet at seven
to eleven regularly, you're not texting to get slurpies. Well you got Q,
you got Mookie. Seemingly he's trying to get drugs the day before,
he's trying to get drugs today. After Hallie Biden, I can't imagine a
more screwed up family than the Biden family. I mean bo Biden, of
course, was the Attorney General of the state of the state of Delaware,
and when he died, Hunter Biden took up with Hallie Biden, his brother's
widow, which is unbelievable. And then secondly he hooked her on crack cocaine.
Would you say that's not a sympathetic defendant. That is, you don't
get much more messed up like that. And then one other thing too.
One of the defenses I got a kick out of was one of the defenses
was that Hunter Biden did not identify as a drug addict at the time.
They didn't buy that, did that? Oh hey, I loved to identify
as a millionaire. I like to identify as a left handed golfer, but
I'm not sure that's ever gonna happen. Some clubs have exclusions for men or
women to play, and if if at a club you can't play if you're
a man, I could identify as a woman to start playing golfer. I
don't think that works. So let's talk about sentencing. According to media accounts,
he's facing up to twenty five years in prison on the three violations,
but it involved only one fact pattern and according to the guidelines. According to
this article, I'm reading that the guidelines appear to be between fifteen and twenty
one months, but it could deviate up or down. So if this judge
was a no nonsense judge who wouldn't accept the plea in the beginning, I
mean, the Department of Justice under Joe Biden wanted him to plead guilty to
misdemeanors and then dismiss the tax cases completely. But she said, nah,
bab and nah, you're not going to do that. What would it take
for a federal judge to significantly deviate from the guidelines, which which are fifteen
to twenty one months, Well, she's gonna One of the things that doesn't
help Hunter Biden is the fact that he doesn't get that downward departure for acceptance
of responsibility. And you know she I mean, I hear. I really
tend to think in my bit of a stretch to try to go beyond the
range that you talked about. Everything I've read has been in that similar range
too. One of the odds at getting probation completely after a lengthy jury trial,
I don't think so. I think he could have had a shot of
probation if he had pled I mean, I'm not actually don't understand why he
didn't plead give him the facts here, but you know that's between him and
his lawyers. They wanted jury nullification. They wanted a jury in Wilmington,
Delaware to say it's a Biden, don't hold him to account for his crimes,
and that didn't play. Now, lastly, yesterday President, former President
Donald Trump had a pre sentenced investigation meeting with the probation officer. Can you
explain to the American people what that normally entails and what it entailed with Trump?
Basically, it's just a whole bunch of interview questions. They ask you
everything under his son, like are using drugs or in addictions. They ask
a lot of background type questions. They will ask about your account of the
offense. And but you know, the thing that gets me about that stands
out to me about this, that I tend to think will be true,
is he's a first time offender convict. Even though it's thirty four counts,
it's all thirty four counts for one single act, So I believe those counts
would have to merge, and it's for the lowest level sell only possible that
would carry a presumption of probation. So I think it would be a stretch
for him to get prison, and I could. I mean, the thing
I'd be afraid of is some kind of house arrest which would be considered part
of probation, with restrictions on travel and so on. But I really don't
it would be a stretch for the judge to try to send him to prison.
I think, I mean, I with that as far from a legal
perspective, Yeah, he turned seventy eight July the first, So you're going
to have a seventy eight year old person in front of you, seventy eight
years, no previous criminal record. He's basically built the skyline of New York
City. He's given away hundreds of millions of dollars in charity. And of
the thirty four convictions, they all stem from one Act, so they all
merge into one and the guidelines call for probation. Now the key might be
home incarceration. Can she legally required Donald Trump for the next day six months
to be home incarcerated in Trump Tower? He could do that, and Trump
could also file with the Court of Appeals for a stay on that pending the
appeal. And I mean, you know, the thing is, if you're
the Democrats, in light of everything that's going on right now, you want
to be careful about possibly rallying the other side, which they've already on courked
that with Look how much Trump has raised for his campaign since that guilty verdict.
What happens if Judge Marshawn puts him in prison? What if he says,
serve six months in jail at Rikers or maybe a US military base based
upon Secret Service guidelines? Can he legally put him in prison for six months?
He could find nothing can stop the judge from interpreting the law on some
way to send some of the prison. But that would give Trump a better
argument for a stay. And at that point that being locked up creates federal
habeas corpus options, which would be the route to get eventually get to the
Supreme Court. Explain that because let's say, normally I have to exhaust all
your state remedies. But let's say where Shawn imposes six months in jail,
he can then jump to federal court district court. I would think to begin
with on a habeas petition and work its way up quickly the US Supreme Court.
Is that what you're saying, theoretically that could happen. I mean,
this is obviously such an unprecedented case where that's just one of the possibilities I've
seen thrown out there by a lawyer I trust. But at the same time,
I yeah, I just don't see. I mean, I'm just hesitant
to think that Judge Murshawn would deviate that much from New York's own sentencing guidelining.
This is you know, New York's guidelines geared it non incarceration of low
level offenders. That's where you know, what's good for the goose is good
for the gander. If his name was Donald Smith or Donald Duck, he
wouldn't have been tried, and secondly, it wouldn't have been sentenced if his
name is Donald Trump. Politics plays a big part. We'll see what occurs.
But James Boken, good luck to you, and good luck and you're
continued great practice. Thank you, James, Thank you Bill. Always a
privilege. God bless America. Let's continue with more and if line becomes available
five one three, seven, four nine seven pounds seven hundreds of new at
and t. There you got it, and we'll find out July eleventh,
and then find out about sometime in October takes about one hundred and twenty days
about four months to prepare the pre sentenced investigation report, and once it is
done, then they set a sentencing. I would not be surprised if this
federal judge set sentencing after November the fifth. And I would not be surprised
if Judge Mershawn in New York City puts Trump in jail or house arrest to
keep him from campaigning because this conviction was so political. To twenty six home
your Reds News Radio seven hundred ww she knows so long as he was nine,
our freedom could never be secured. Hello, quiet, and I'm I'm
broadcasting a rock. After I had in the Great Men of Mason, they
went undefeated, untied, unscored on won the state tied away. I heard
faithful member coach the elder got a hold of me. But after they won
twenty state baseball titles, Muller's won nine, tell us how good they are?
Well, that's a point, but they won the first and they are
hometown team because that's the transmitter, that's Mason without them. Didn't the coach
say they were going to be called the Transmitters in honor of us the Towers
the Towers tours, but the school board said no. And they said no,
they should have went to the They should have been the Mason transmitters.
It could have gotten some adorsement money out of us. Right, we would
have paid him big money, Michael Below was we would have paid right this
company lets sparspense SA. You know that's sentenced down a little bit for pronouns
and adjectives. Used the proper pronouns too. For Michael Below winning pitcher,
he could pitch for the Reds right now, I think. And the bigger
than you and the catcher Mark Rutherfert could take Stevenson's place, and Anthony Suleik
and Brad Hart pretty good stuff. They worked their whole life for the first
seventeen eighteen years to win and they did it. It's awesome. I think
that's great now. The coach is wonderful in the team, and what Scott
Sloan's doing is really a great thing. For Mason, no expense, that's
exactly right. And I asked a coach how many what are we talking about
here? He said about forty to forty five rings, And I said,
look, each one's about one thousand dollars and Sloaney makes out he can he
can afford to do it. So we want to thank Sloaney for stepping up,
along with coach Bly and the school board, but they want to step
aside. Let Sloaney do what he has to do. I mean, you
buy sand x rings all the time for the championship about the park, I
did well. I had two other partners with me. Oh yeah, that's
good to step up like that. Not bad, right for the Saint Xavier
football team they win this year and the lacrosse team next year. Really yeah,
got that on part of it, part of it. Part of it
we had that I don't like lacrosse. That's cultural misappropriation of an Indian sport.
And you do that because you're a privileged white guy. Isaac, Me
and the segment are like middle class, lower mass working guys. We're working.
Get out there and play a little lacrosse and see what it's like.
Is they running around with a stick in a basket or something? Well,
what a ball? You know? It's like ice hockey without the soccer with
with sticks and not as ever ever played shoot. It kind of came around
after my youth career, right, I've told the story before. But I
remember when I was in high school. This is you know, ninety six,
ninety seven, there's about eight ten guys at st X walked around with
across sticks and they loved it. They lived it. They thought it was
the greatest thing ever. And they tell us how great it's going to be.
And right now, if you told me back then that these teams would
have you know, there's one hundred and twenty one hundred and fifty kids you
know at st X that play lacrosse. No, it's huge soccer. Well,
the kids are playing lacrosscause they don't want to play baseball anymore because baseball
is boring. And they've been you know, they've been weathered to have you
know, with with how instant gratification society is, how quick things are social
media, that they don't have attention span, so they got to go,
go, go. They can't sit out in right field for three hours and
watch them watch a dadlines. Have you watched I used to coach them seven
eight year old boys try to play baseball without a tea, just sit there
and nothing happens, but lacrosse are running around all the time, right sack
shocker, No, I don't I don't know, but give us some sports
and make it fast. But we honor Mason despite the efforts of an elder
faithful to tell me they've won twenty. They've won twenty. Come on on,
come on on, man, Mason coach LI congratulations. So Elder actually
got a hold of us and said, hey, not Elder itself one of
the former players who won a state title. I can't say, you know
what. Then Elder opens up with Mason. Next year it was the last
time the Elder won the state title in baseball. It's been fairly recently happy
for twenty years. Yeah, come on, but DearS native deer Park in
nineteen seventy seven with Hank Estes, deer Park won the state title in baseball.
Remember that not wasn't born. Uh the student reporters of Proud Service over
your local teme Star. He didn't get their conditioning dealers Temestar quality. Who
could feel in Cincinnati call the experts are preferred home comfort five, one,
three, eight, nine to two h v A c Rock guy, Joe
Biden, it's time to ban assault weapons. They're already banned. Assault weapons
are illegal. Automatic weapons already illegal. Since what right he's had a gun
safety deal today and his son just got indicted. He's guilty. You can't
make it for Shenanigans with a gun. That's I wrong. By the way,
I have I have something. I got an idea. This is if
the if the Biden people are listening, this is some advice to them to
help Joe Biden because he's not doing well right. He throws up today,
he froze up at some event. They said, here's what he should do.
Okay, his team's listening. He should come out and pardon Trump.
Pardon Trump, because then all the college educated white women will like, oh
my god, the benevolent leader we've all been waiting for. Blah blah blah.
His poll numbers go through the roof, and then the next day he
can be justified in pardoning Hunter Biden. What do you think of that?
What do you do with the state Joe move that's what he should do.
What do you do with Governor Hokeel in New York State? The state charges
he doesn't control that. What do you do with that? We'll be able
to get that done in New York. We think call her up and say,
hey, hok yes, don't be a joke. Pardon him. What
if the governor of New York and Kemp and Georgia the governor, of course
they would do pardon Trump and he pardons Trump along with Hunter. Yeah,
let's have a debate on the real issue. Pardon them. I'm telling you
he would come off as the benevolent leader and look to look at him.
He's going above the fray and not this nastiness. He just wants to do
the right thing and talk about suburban knights. Would look, it's the It's
the only thing he has right now. He needs a hell Mary, He
needs to do something like that, hocal, because him getting out in front
and on a talking at a podium isn't doing it. Not linguistically great,
shall we? So they should steal that idea? All right? We got
the record two thousand and five, It's been what nineteen years the last Elder
title, and Mason was last week. Mueller's won it five times since then,
So what this time Mason won? Mason? That's don't confuse me with
the facts. Sank go Yes, for sure. The battle for the Ohio
Cup begins tonight Downtown Rock those Guardians in Town and the Reds to start a
two game set and six' ten with Sports Talking Lance and the Artell Carriers
Inside Pitch, the Kelsey Chevrolet Extra Ding Show after the game, where about
Detroit? And in baseball, an inferior team can always beat a better team
with good pitching. You're gonna have one pitcher. Mason's got the hammer.
And if he shuts you down, he gave Mueller zero hits. Michael blow
Below got it done. And if you you could run into a hosive fact,
especially sports baseball, you know, good luck. And he's healthy and
he can throw the stud no hits. Mooler going to George Mason and yes,
uh the state champion Mason team while he was just here an hour ago.
They moved up four spots now in the Max Preps and nationally they are
ranked twelve in the nation. Not bad, not bad. Uh. Let's
see. Bengals opened up their three day mandatory mini camp. What's going on
down there? To a few of those camps the final phase of the offseason
program. Joe Burrows spoke to the people today and guess what he's taking up
piano. He's learning to play the piano. Mike risk Area issue. Yeah,
he's gonna He's gonna do it. You're traveling sit by the pool and
he's learning to play the piano via the YouTube videos. He's playing Mozart,
Beethoven and rock Monoof Right now, Rocknof one of the great composers of the
world. What do you know about rock Mononoff. He's a great composer.
Let me ask you that Sheriff gets a rock Monanoff, I'll show you you
shut the hell up. So right now, the media and everybody's like,
oh my god, that's so great. He's playing the piano. That's so
awesome. And then maybe it is you think Zach Taylor deep down is like
great or does he want boy? Maybe my quarterbacks should be like, you
know, working on football. How about the pant Mike Reed, Remember Mike
Reid before you were born, Bengals driver, seventy four penn State. What
did he play the piano? And he quit playing football? Football coaches and
he went on to be a great a great singer in that right, composer.
Football coaches want you to eat, sleep, and breathe and do nothing
but football because that's what they do. And that's you know, they're saying
a long you're getting pay a lot of money. Look, it's not a
big deal, but I'm just saying, whatever, what about a supple wrist?
He needs a supple rist. USA basketball set experience was the name main
reason Caitlin Clark will not be on the US Women's Olympic roster. It's ridiculous.
I bet you NBC is going berserk. She'll be on You want to
bet me he'll be on it? Are you gonna? Are you gonna watch
the w NBA or that mean the Olympics if Keylon Clark is not on the
team. No? Can you have watched if she was on it? Yes?
Can you name player on the USA women's team? No? Other than
Britney Grinder. But she can't play. She's you know, she played two
games and it's not in shape. Say could you name other than Britney Grinder
a player in the US women's team. I don't think it's been picked yet,
has it? Yes? It is? Oh? Well, I don't
know, of course, I have no idea. It took fifteen I don't
know. I have no idea, you know. And golf US Open Thursday,
t times our man Jim Herman is at eight forty five am. Tiger
Woods at seven thirty. How about this group one fifteen on Thursday? McElroy
Schoffley Scheffler like a law firm. Did you hear the matchup between Xander Schoffley
and Michael Jordan. Stories are out. Michael Jordan beat Xander Schoffley. Now
he got eight strokes, okay, and on his own without the strokes.
Michael Jordan birdied fifteen and sixteen at the memorial. They played on Tuesday before
the tournament, and Michael Jordan finishes one up on Xander Shoffley. How many
strokes do you want against the the guy from UC You want a ten,
didn't you. I'm a six handicapp now my handicaps, and you wanted the
guy who play left handed and with a pass strings tied together? Yeah,
Ty Gingrich, you want to play him, I'll play him. Give me
ten strokes on kenot he's gonna play blindfolded. What is a PGA pro am?
I yes, I am, Yes, you are right, you say
so. I don't know, seg. But Xander Schoffley taken down by Michael
Jordan, and by the way, is like sixty one years old and he's
in a fishing tournament this weekend. I think off the Atlanta coast or something
with his fifty foot yacht fishing boat and yacht what's what's it called? I
hop pancakes which I don't know? Twenty three eleven racing, twenty three eleven
racing? What's on the big? George Jordy used to play like thirty six
holes of golf for like an NBA playoff game. Wouldn't he as insane?
One time two cigars have a have a couple of beers play six golf and
then another triple double. He'll be in the playoffs. I knew someone I
gotta do tomorrow. I'm I'm in Las Vegas. I knew somebody. We
played a place called Cascata, which is like winds Favor. It was beautiful.
So the pro says, look, we got two foursome, and he
said, look, Michael Jordan may be out here, and would you let
him go through? And I said, he's got a twosome. He said,
well sure, sure, sure, what So we're playing Cascotta and you
know, and I'm in the second looking behind me, I see two large
black guys teeing off on the par four behind us, and I'm looking I
said, that's him. So we as soon as we hit the seconds,
come on through. Michael Jordan and Chuck Barkley are playing golf. What is
swing? Barkley? And it was terrible and Michael both had cigars. And
how you guys doing? I said, great? Went through, We played
about seven eight more holes, and then he came through again. In other
words, he played eighteen and the twosome then went through and played another eighteen
in about four or four and a half hours, I said Michael Jordan when
he won the title in Utah, he got done and there was still daylight,
he said, I got time for a round of golf. Havy won
the unbelievable look at golf that much. Yes, Geez and his race team
won a couple of weeks ago on the NASCAR circuit, and you would have
thought he won another NBA championship. He was so s when the Little Rock
won the Super Bowl, what were you like? Amazing? As good as
one? I went and won the one myself. Well, when when your
wife is saying, where's the baby, the baby? Baby's over there to
worry about it? Come on now, we got not on the line.
The Sheriff Joey Chestnut has been banned from the Nathan's hot Dog eating contest.
So the issue is he has a deal with a vegan substitute hot dog company
pays in like a million bucks, and they would not allow him to compete
in this come and the Nathan's because they hot dogs for God's sake. I
guess you know that I competed in a saying almost shrimp eating contest against Joey
Chestnut shrimp eating. Yeah, so I want it for the Colts having back
for a football game. This is four years ago, and they said,
hey, a halftime Joey Chestnuts here, do you want to compete in a
shrimp eating contest? Star? So we're it's amazing. But if you ever
had a Saint almost shrimp, the cocktail sauce is legendary and it is it
will clear your sinuses and a millisecond it is hot. So they say,
go, it's me Joey Chesnutt and his other older Colts player. And so
I'm reaching there. I got my fork and I'm cutting one eating. I
looked to my left and he has two hands in these cocktail dishes, just
slamming shrimp, like just just cocktail sauce and spit and sweat and bile and
everything flying all over the place. And I was like, this is the
grossest yet most unbelievable thing I've ever seen in my life. So I lost
and I had no shot. I'm sitting here, coach shot cutting the shrimp
up and blow blown ala the like. Just it was incredible what that guy
did. He came in about three four years ago, sitting right there.
He ate two large pepperoni pizzas and the roses loaded two large fifteen inches.
They went down within about seven or eight minutes. I never saw that.
Put the meat in your mouth. He's taking this piece. I think he
eats a cardboard box. Dude down dig he rolls him up and just stuffs
him into his mouth each piece of you know you eat a piece of pizza.
Yeah, no, he just rolled it up and say he started eating
it. I'm going I mean watching the hot dog getting contests. Kobe is
Kobe Hashi back or did he retire? He's something that he retired, didn't
he or did he left he retired? Wonder he's going to be the new
champ then, but he set the bar back before he I forget what year
it was, but the hot dog record was like, you know, twenty
three, twenty four, and all of a sudden he hits fifty. We
were like what. But what he did is he studied not how to eat
more hot dogs. He studied how to eat one hot dog as efficiently as
possible. And he came up with the method of dunking the bread to condense
the dough and get the air out of it and stuff. And that's how
I wanted. It was very scientific record, like sixties. Oh he had
like snow. I think the chestn is like seventy, doesn't he? I
think so pretty much. What's on the big show today? If anything,
we have a Patricia Newberry from the Inquirer out of the gate. You might
have seeing the story what is the future of Lunkin Airport. They need to
remodel, they need to upgrade some things, but I don't know how to
do that. That's a big, big number. They have number one million.
That's gonna be interesting. That's a very iconic part of Cincinnati, Lunking
Airport, one hundred million on a P and G. A lot of private
businesses fly out of there, a lot of You're gonna do me and Sega
at the Greyhound bus station. Your buddies are at Lunking sure, formerly Lunkenheimer.
Yes. And then we have your former girlfriend Tanyo O'Rourke at three thirty
five. I always liked her. Yeah, and many other things. To
see what happens, Thank you, Rock segment Biden has to pardon Trump and
then he can pardon his son, and wouldn't that be popular? The most
part, I'm telling you that that's that's his only shot. That's a stop
and Frey, get me out of the students. You know he's in space,
Willy and Honor of the Reds and Guardians going at it tonight and gave
one of the Ohio cup. Get beeloo on the mound. We leave you
with the immortal words of the Stoodport. Give me the Jeff Brantley final meal
before you meet your maker. Fried chicken, green bean casserole, pashed brown
potatoes with cheese and bacon, and I finished it off with cement ice cream
with Oreo cookies. That would be the last thing I want going into my
mouth. You know what, maybe he had to go to Atlantic City for
the big event, and I don't see that the cowboy Joey Chestnut banned and
il money what's going on with a great American event on seven hundred WLW