What is it about four day weeks? You know why? It's because they're
abnormal. As weird as that sounds, even if they're one day less,
they're kind of not normal. And there's a lot of stuff that has to
get done behind the scenes. And I'm sure this goes for a lot of
people's jobs. Even though you're off, there's still a bunch of stuff that
has to happen. So you, like you do. You basically do part
of another day's work folded into your other days so that you can accommodate that
day. So reality from a workload standpoint, and it is what it is.
I'm not here to start a union, but I feel like the only
way to make that not a thing is to normalize four day weeks. So
now five days was the abnormal or three days, then I feel like things
would level out just a little more. You ever noticed ross two, Like
try telling the salesperson that you have to move something who also has the day
off, Like sometimes it's just not clicking with them. And I'm like,
yeah, you know how, that's going to be a day off and you're
not gonna be here. So here's what we're gonna Guess what I'm not going
to be here either, So yeah, it's really weird. It's weird how
it's on the company calendar there. So that's that's what I would advocate once
again, uh here on the show, so start the movement, all right,
coming up on the show, because again I said we're going to do
this thing. So it was around what two fifteen, AT and T say,
two fifteen they said they had full restoration. So the the outage insanity
from yesterday I saw, I saw little. I saw people trying to say
it was sun spots and stuff, which is a thing that can happen.
Now I'll give you ea to what AT and T officially says it is.
But you know, people are like, oh, well I saw people on
Twitter explaining sun spots and what might be going on. And I don't know
if you know this. We in the radio industry we deal with sunspots.
That's an actual issue, and it becomes an issue if you have programming that
is satellite fed. So annually there are there are literally windows, predictable windows
during which we behind the scenes can monitor and make sure, especially as a
news talk station which runs a lot of Premiere, which is the syndicator group
that Limbaugh was on, and obviously Glenn Beck Sean Hannity the there's a work
around all of this stuff. So I saw that, yes same people.
I'm like, I don't know, man, because that sounds a little swamp
gassy off venus. But it is actually a thing that conjack with satellites.
But it sounded like there were bigger issues now at and T, who was
the service primarily affected, and looked like a lot of the other effect was
ancillary, basically piggybacking off AT and T towers and or one side of the
call being AT and T. So I'm not just picking on them. And
they said it was the thing that I said it was yesterday. I said
it was one of two things that was firmly possible. One it could be
a cyber attack. We've talked on this show many times China doing with China,
and that's just China. We got tons of places or you know,
North Korea has their own thing, and they're not altogether completely muzzled as you
saw surrounding all the Sony insanity. But the other thing I said is somebody's
dumb, all right, somebody's screwed up, man, Because we're human,
these things happen. So, according to AT and T, the hours long
outage that impacted most of North America, because this is actually extended into Canada
was actually the result of, let me read it, the application and execution
of an incorrect process used as we are expanding our network, not a cyber
attack, and so I, you know, fifty percent nailed it. It
was. What's also interesting, though, is then I have to listen to
bloviating politicians. And this is not a defense of AT and T. I
I happen to be a customer of AT and T, but I am not.
AT and T does not I'm not an endorser. AT and T doesn't
pay me. In fact, every month I have to pay them a lot
more than i'd like to. That being said, watching government ass hats sit
there and go, you know something, we need to more closely mind anything
that brings them more attached to a communications network. I don't want to hear
about. And I also don't want to hear a bunch of government folk talking
about how, you know, the the in this case, the private sector
as much as you want to call it, with some of the relationships.
If only they had government more up in their you know, more up their
butt, they do better. I would like to remind those politicians who are
doing this because obviously they you know, for cloud and it fits the narrative
of all businesses or evil, which if you wanted to make it an at
and T is evil argument, I can understand why you do that, especially
going back to some of the stuff that the communication companies were doing with all
that spine stuff you know, under Bush and Obama and everybody. Right,
So you can make that argument. But also you're the a holes going to
the government who told everyone in Hawaii they're about to get a missile upside the
head. Okay, right, so you want to you want to put track
records out there, you took, you made, you made Hawaii consume porn
at a rate previously unseen, which is one of the fun facts from that
whole whoops our missile incoming missile eas system. We actually actually told everyone they
were gonna die and and what is a unplanned but fantastical study of society.
Immediately a huge author the audience went, well, I'm not dying with pants
on, so which I you know what, man like somebody should do a
doctoral dissertation on that. Come up with a come up with an impact or
effect, because admittedly that was kind of eye opening, Like what did you
do when you thought the missile was about to blow you? Eh, call
family? Do you uh, maybe try to get to a more rural area,
hoping that if that it was in fact a missile attack, the targets
would be, you know, population centers, or did you go see if
Mia Khalifa had a new video? Oh you did the last one? Okay,
all right, so I really I don't need you and and I'm not
even getting on the Maui fire stuff right and that disaster, so you know,
shut up? How's that? There? You go? All told?
Let's see here? Do they have a final number? Well, look,
either you were affected or you weren't affected. I'm assuming because my my phone
was it ross. You had the ass So did it just shut it off
or did you have to restart it or wait when it finally came back on.
Yeah, I laid down for an afternoon nap, which was glorious by
the way. Oh good, after the past two weeks. Oh you've been
Look, you've been busy doing like I'm gonna you're the you're doing like a
homing garden. Reno the Whole House show. So you've been a busy guys.
It's been very stressful, like all these renovations and stuff. So yesterday,
actually it's all done. Yesterday I got to, you know, lay
down for a little bit in the afternoon, and woke up and it was
fixed. So I didn't have to do nothing, okay, all right.
Yeah. I didn't know if that people had to restart their phones or anything,
because I was among the unimpacted royalty. I guess although you and I
see some of it may have to do with the iPhone model and you and
you have a different iPhone than me. It was pretty sweet though, because
when I did lay down for my nap, I'm like, well, I
guess I won't wake up to any text from the boss. No. Yeah,
that's the upside man, right there. You know how else you can
do that turn your phone off, you can recreate you can recreate the experiment
every every week, or a little house in the prairie stuff. Yeah,
or not pay your phone bill and yeah good point. Yeah and then boom,
and then I won't be able to send you prep stuff. So it's
uh, it's a two fers. So but yeah, that was it.
Of course, also if it was a cyber attack. This is now can
I put my cynical conspiratorial hat on if it was a cyber attack, one
that was even marginally successful in this level of disruption, I think A.
I think at and T and the government wouldn't tell us. Is that is
that me being too cynical, because that's like you're getting, you're getting your
panicky level stuff. I don't. I don't think they tell us now.
I think they then if they could avoid it. Yeah, Bob can't write
code. He used to be a coal miner and then they forced him to
do this, and he was gonna do the Keystone pipeline and that fell through.
And I'm not picking on Bob. He's good at all those things.
But I just wasn't nailing the code. And what we realized yesterday, like
the last portion of the show, of how it was affecting the two factor
or whatever it is, verification, yes, authentication. We ended up getting
some emails like your corporate emails saying, hey, this is really affecting business.
Yeah we called that at like eight fifty. We're like, oh man,
yeah, we nailed it, so they should really Why don't all the
bosses listen to the show. Actually I don't know if I want that,
but just hey, Ross has to pull clips every week for some internal stuff
for the show, like highlights. Did you send that? Is that what
you're sending? Our prediction? I know I send this week. I sent
Trevor the Don Junior interview to yesterday. I mean logically, which which,
by the way, you opened the interview talking about the outage. So yeah,
we just assumed he called it on like a prepaid phone card or something.
Well, they probably have a satellite of their own. I mean,
let's just let's just be honest. I would really once you get into fu
money, uh, your own communication network. Oh you're gonna show you turn
a phone off? Jokes on you. Yeah, your backyard looks like that
giant satellite dish that's in all the spy movies. Where is it down in
Australia? You think? Yeah? Absolutely? Oh, by the way,
we got another space thing. Oh let's see here all right, you ready,
Ross, we have a we have an asteroid. Since the satellite didn't
fall on on all your new stuff at your house. Maybe this how many
animals white? Is it? Well? It's so funny you would ask.
All right, let me read the headline, m h an asteroid the size
of six Indian adult peacocks? Yea? What anything to avoid the metric system?
Why are you laughing me, Chris? Why? Why are you laughing
at this? Doomsday? Well, you know, probably wouldn't shut the whole
world down. But I'm going to tell you, if an asteroid the size
of six adult Indian peacocks smashes into your house, you're not going to be
laughing today. That's going to go really horribly for you. So uh yeah,
be on the lookout for that now. I will say this the the
article, the article here, which is from the Jerusalem Post. All right,
even though that you know they they tend to do straight news there,
it's clear that the author is a little tongue in cheek on this, and
I guess I can appreciate that. But still, if you and your colleagues
are doing all of this. Also, how big is an indian peacock?
Can we get ross? Will you convert that to bald eagles or yeah?
I don't know how big it is either? And is it like peacocking,
you know, how like their feathers get bigger. Oh, that's a good
point, Yeah, is it we're talking with height, expansion of the tail
feathers on the males. It doesn't say, it just says, it says.
It actually says, around the size of six adult Indian peacocks, we'll
fly within the Moon's orbit. Blah blah blah whatever. So watch out for
that, I guess at some point today. But they it's they say it's
not going to do anything. But if you have a telescope, I guess
you can see it. And actually I think maybe already went by. Yeah,
I don't even I don't know. If we can't do bold eagles,
how about African swallows? Can we convert it to that? We talk an
African or European? What's the difference. Is there a difference between the two
swallows? I mean, I put it out there if we're using if we're
using Indian peacocks, I thought Africa is kind of closer to India, so
it would that would be an easier conversion. Rob wants no male or female.
You know, it doesn't gender the peacocks in the article here, so
I don't know. And also, are these real peacocks or are these peacocks
rendered by Google Gemini image and if so, are they recognizable as peca.
These are all things that are not clearly not in the story, So I
don't know. I'll attempt to do a conversion. I'm you know what,
I'm making fun of it, and I think it's domb and we mock it
on the show ever since the Giraffe a giraffe width thing, which was a
fun segment but hurts the brain. So yeah, to your question, it
does matter which direction, height, whatever. Is it a weight issue?
Probably not Peaky's. I gotta think a mass of compacted rock is going to
weigh more per square inch than a Indian peacock. But I'm not a space
person or a peacock expert. I know they're loud and they can be aggressive.
That's what I know about peacocks, and that if you go to Houston
and there's some really nice neighborhoods off downtown, driving through there one time,
going to see somebody, there was just random peacocks running around and then they
and they were like, wouldn't let me pull the car into a driveway And
they're like, yeah, I wouldn't get out and mess with that peacock.
So if you have a satellite made of those, I'm slightly terrified. All
right, we'll run the numbers. We got lots more to get into coming
up. Hang on, all right, So several organizations Southern Poverty Law Center,
which you don't take anything you read there with a grain of salt.
It was crazy, is like, even some marginally mainstream organizations were calling out
all of the financial shenanigans there, and then that story just went away.
Anti Defamation League there's another one. Is it Jason's Project something project, I
can't remember the name of it. But they all they maintain lists of a
variety of things, whether it's hate groups, crimes, or mass shootings,
and they may have different definitions and on what qualifies and the motivations around it
as it pertains to extremism. And so the Anti Defamation League released the the
report on twenty twenty three, okay, and in it they attempt to determine
through their standards what may have been the motivating factor in some of these very
high profile horrible stories. Right, and the document which lists I believe it's
seventeen they identified as meeting the requirement of a mass shooting or attack and having
extremist motivations behind them. They decided in twenty twenty three, every extremist related
mass shooting was the result of right wing extremism or mass casualty events. It's
not just shootings. Every mass casualty event here in the United States, of
which they claim that seventeen qualify, all of them were the result of right
wing extremism. There were zero instances of left wing extremism in twenty twenty three.
Does that sit right in your head when I tell you that? Can
you think of any examples that may have you questioning that number? Stories that
we may have encountered in twenty twenty three which arguably maybe don't fit into the
quote unquote right wing extremist listing. Let me just just give you an example
of one that's in the right wing extremist list, but probably not the one
you're necessarily thinking of, but just to give you a little sniff of how
this works. Do you remember back in May the the guy a thirty three
year old who went to that mall in Texas, allan tech I believe it
was police ended up killing him. He killed eight prior to that, and
his name was Mauriceio Garcia. That is one of the items that's listed in
right wing extremism because they say he had a neo Nazi tattoo, which some
people feel might be actually a prison tattoo. I never really saw a definitive
one way or the other, but they decided that that counts. The one
though, that is raising some questions with folks, is what happened in Nashville,
And that's probably the one that popped into your head. Now, remember
some attacks are listed as not extremist motivated, so you know there's gonna be
some of those that they claim don't fall into the right or left category.
But that's not one of them. That one they decided is right wing extremism.
I'm surprised they didn't include the dude who mowed down everybody with that van
or that suv who was also it's it's hard to get there that they're a
right wing extremists. But no, the one that people are arguing over,
excuse me, is the Nashville Covenant School shooter. Now, just looking at
what you know about that, would you say that that is that was motivated
at least in part by ideological extremism? Would you say that that is that
is a fair statement with the Covenant School shooting Ross. Would you say it's
a fair statement before we dice which side, but would you say that that
probably had there was some motivation that arguably could fit into the extremist definition.
Yeah, I think that's easy. Yes, okay, of right wing extremism,
and so that's where that's at. So you would yeah, so admittedly,
yes, it was extremism of from from from the right. I mean
obviously right, obviously, Well, I know what you're saying. You're like,
well, maybe maybe you could give us an example of why. According
to the A d L if you looked at the pages of the manifesto,
we did see right, remember was it Crowder? Who? I guess somebody
somebody in law enforcement gave it to Stephen Crowder. He put it out,
I said five three pages. I thought it was five, but three and
from what we saw there, because again we we don't have the whole thing
officially. They say that because in those three pages, as well as in
a social media post, the shooter in that case use the British word for
cigarettes, right, the one that starts with F. You know, the
word that that is. It doesn't that would not be so we're not looking
at it. So We're not looking at everything else that happened and everything else
in the minute, just the one word, and you're like, oh,
well there has to be something. You know, somebody in the right would
say used it multiple times, Russ. I mean it's it's it's right there.
That's an obvious Trump voter, unquestionably. Now, how do they classify
it? Basically that the motivation was was personal animus and beef basically with people
within the school who were quote doing better than the shooter, who resented that,
and and then took that personal animus and when did this horrible thing which
they wrote a manifesto for, which does have some other stuff in it.
Arguably, Yeah. The ad L says that the decision to condemn her targets
as the British word for cigarettes is an example of epitats directed at lgbt Q
plus people, which muddies the water in determining uh it to be left wing
extremism as a motivating factor. You know, sometimes people use words. People
use words I don't want to say ironically, but are able to use words.
I you know that black people will call other black people the N word,
right or even I'm thinking about eminem eminems is that word a lot,
yeah, not the N word, the other word. Yeah, but I
wouldn't I wouldn't say eminem is is a right winger in any way, I
mean a big lib No, no, that wouldn't wouldn't fit. But like,
also, you ever see women who are going out, like a girls'
night out or whatever, you ever hear how they'll talk to each other like
in the same way guy, dude, Yeah, they're all sluts, right
yeah, or or the B word like, but they mean it in an
affectionate manner or or and I'm not saying this is necessarily the same thing,
but they don't. They don't necessarily think that their friend group is a bunch
of and then insert whatever the derogatory word is, although secretly they might because
women get jealous of women, but whatever, But like that, or when
I when I show up, like if football, if there's you know,
if I'm gonna go join the you know, the group of guys that I
sometimes go watch with, and like when I've first seen them, I don't
honestly think they're degenerates, but I will call them degenerates. And there is
a certain element of generousy to spending all day watching football and possibly even gambling
on it. But that's not my true opinion. So how that plugs in
here, I don't know, but I feel like this is one of those
where you want to look at the totality of the evidence and I guess it
just doesn't fit the mold. Yeah, fifteen of the seventeen identified as we're
quote unquote white supremacists, and then the two other are non white supremacists far
right extremists. So seventeen total and zero left wing motivating stuff. So again,
much like the Southern Poverty Law Center, anytime you hear a media outlet
quote on the issue of hate crimes from the ADL, knowing this should inform
whether you trust that information. And I think people are going to have a
hard time if you can't even call that one one. But that's where we
sit this morning. Anyway, six forty five Cacoday Radio program. Don't worry.
I have some mildly not want to make you drive into a concrete divider
kind of stories. We'll get to that. We'll check in on some of
our State Department experts. There was I think it as much fanfare, but
there was some interesting hearings going on up in Washington yesterday having to do with
Israel and everything going on over there with Hamas and Palestinians and the United Nations
and you name it, and really what the US government's position should be.
That's what they were knocking out. So lawmakers brought in experts, including folks
from the US State Department, who this is this is their whole world,
understandably, so right, this is their whole world, this little slice of
the Middle East, which is rot with tensions every day that I've been alive
and most of you have been alive. And so they're going to have the
deep understanding necessary to provide advisory opinions to members of Congress, so hopefully they
can make the best decision. And it's a doozy, so do stick around
for that again eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four back in
just a few And what I want you to do, which is going to
make this easier to digest and not smack your head against the wall at least
at the beginning. Why don't you pretend you're in like a really bad SNL
skit, but at least one that's tending to come from both sides. Maybe
I don't know, because otherwise, just figure out where your bunker is and
head there now. Man. So yesterday there was a hearing specific surrounding the
US and what really State Department officials and others would like to see should there
be some sort of a resolution or agreement? Okay, you know that stuff
they should be talking about. Even those who are the most isolationists, you
have to understand that there still is entanglement there. So yeah, they should
probably have a plan. So they bring in a woman by the name of
Bonnie Jenkins. Now Bonnie, Yeah, I'm gonna give you. Her actual
job title is the US Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security,
So she is a State Department muckety muck. And who is it Congressman mast
I believe, Yeah, it's Brian mast He. He's asking her a line
of what are actually kind of boring questions, but specifically, what are the
government's thoughts within the State Department on a two state solution, like what does
that look like? Which I think a lot of people have asked that question,
right because if you do, and then like there you should be concerned
if they go to state and even if an agreement is signed and hamas remains
control in control there and is still being Iranian influenced. That's not an ideal
situation. So that's what the congressman's trying to get to the bottom of with
this. This muckety muck at the State Department is Bonnie Jenkins, and let's
go. We support a two state solution. Okay, have you looked at
that objectively? What do you mean? Have you looked at subjectively? Have
you analyzed that objectively? This is this is something that we do support.
Yeah, that's not an answer. Have you analyzed a second Pealstinian state objectively?
Have you have you analyzed it objectively? I'm not sure exactly what you're
asking. You don't know what it means to objectively analyze. You know what
it means object Okay, so have you done that? No? I have
not you if if I understand your questions, you might not be because I
can't believe that you would answer it in that way. If you so,
let me just start over. You're here and just so rebundantly clear. The
objectively, both how he means it and how people understand it, Uh,
simply means attempting to analyze the situation free of bias. Okay, so you
may want a two state solution, right that. Maybe your stated and bias
isn't necessarily bad. It may be a decision you arrived at. What he's
asking is, when arriving at that decision, did you take a step back
and go yes, you know, even though that is the official position of
the US government. Before I make a recommendation, let me on all the
scenarios, because and I just gave you a shining example. What if it's
a scenario where Hamas still controls and I ran still controls. So yeah,
you need to take a step back, and you may arrive at the same
decision, but you evaluate things objectively. People need to. People do this
in their life all the time, or the very least they should when big
decisions are being made. All right, So this is not off to a
good start. Representing support for a Palestinian state, correct, Yes? Have
you analyzed that support objectively? Yes? But you just said no. So
I'm trying to understand what you're saying. I thought I made it pretty simple,
but you said no. But I'll grant you that now you said,
yes, you have looked at it objectively. Okay, all right, all
right, So that's uncomfortable, but you know there's let's now that we're into
it, we've moved past this small misunderstanding. Well, some people if they're
in public at cameras, whatever it's, it can be taxing or it could
be distracting. It shouldn't be at that level, but I understand. So
I'm sorry. Would you assess would lead that Palestinian state? Ah? This
is my question? Very good? All right, now we're down to specifics.
Let's do this. You can name a group, but I'm saying Hamas
Palestinian authorities to Palestinian Islamic Jahad Fata, some other group who would lead it.
I think that has to be something that's considered. I don't think I'm
in a position to say, what did you objectively assess would lead it?
In determining you have support for a Palestinian state, I don't. I don't
want to. I don't think that I can answer that question. Phone number
eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four coming up one hour from
now. One hour from now, Pete Callander will join us, because that's
how we do Fridays. And you know, one of the stories I may
have to ask about is all that West Charlotte High School insanity. And if
you don't know what happened, we'll explain. And I'm gonna and I will
try to you're ready for this ross, I'm gonna try to objectively analyze the
story? How about that? Because that is a service that we do around
these parts. And I really do, I honestly mean that. I even
when we're reactionary to stuff and you have that immediate response because of how you
feel about a topic, I try to always like, all right, let
me step back and think this thing out, and I may arrive at the
same conclusion and in that very same way when bigger, much bigger decisions than
just some story I'm putting in my stack are being made, Like if we
do this utilizing the robust power that is the United States, whether it is
via reputation, long standing relationships, or just due to the ungodly sum of
money that will give an aid every year, which is essentially a little bit
of a bribe. In some cases, objective analysis is important, and those
within the US State Department as it pertains to how we interact with other countries,
especially ones in turmoil, those are going to be important partners at the
table and that's where we found ourselves. Testimony yesterday by Bonnie Jenkins, the
US Undersecretary for State for Arms Control and International Security. Absolutely is somebody who
should have thoughts on what's up with everything going on in Israel, And if
we support a two state solution, as is the current recommendation from the State
Department and the official policy of the US government, we should know what we're
getting. And if what we're getting, and this is what the Congressman is
trying to drill down on, is in fact the same but with more formality,
then we have to ask ourselves, is that is that still currently the
best recommendation? Because if you just have Hamas and now Hamas is their own
thing because they retain control and Iran retains the control that it has, I
think people have a hard time believing that it's going to be kumbah Yaf from
that moment forward. So that's the line of questioning. That's where we last
left our heroes. Let's get back into this where she it's not real comfortable
with the word objectively, who would you assess would lead that Palestinian state?
Pick a group, you can name a group, but I'm saying Hamas Palestinian
authority to Palestinian Islamic Jahad Fata, some other group, who would lead it.
I think that has to be something that's considered. I don't think I'm
in a position to say so. Did you objectively assess would lead it?
In determining you have support for a Palestinian state? And this is an important
nuance, not who do you want? That's one question. If everything played
out, who would it be? You gotta game theory, this stuff,
you gotta know because maybe as part of the process where you're like, all
right, we'll do it to state. However, Hamas can't be the ruling
party. That's a negotiation point, and I think we can objectively agree that
for the most part, that you don't want Hamas in charge, right right,
Okay, all right, continue. I don't want to I don't think
that I can answer that question. I think this has this is part of
a larger discussion. But you objectively assess that you support a Palestinian state,
objectively assessing that who do you assess would lead that state? What group that
does not receive military support from say Iran, do you assess would lead that
that state? I understand your question, but I think I would have to
have a little I would. I don't. I don't feel comfortable saying that
without you, what group would lead it? Have you or have you not
assessed who would become the leader of that policy? This is part of this
is part of a larger discussion. But have you or have you not assessed
that it is? It is part of It is part of a larger discussion,
which is why the decision makers for a lot of this stuff are calling
you in the government employee, a high high level government employee who this is
clearly in your wheelhouse. It is. This is the larger discussion, and
you're part of it. Right, I'm not there testifying I'd solve it to
quickly and everyone looked bad. You're there because you're the under secretary of State.
You're one of the vps at the company, and specifically you're you're you're
in charge of you know, things that go things that go exploding, and
uh and guns and violence and all of the things that this this conflict is
wrought with. Right, this is this is your bag, lady. What
are we doing here? All right? So as you can tell, this
is going nowhere. However, the Congressman has five minutes, so we'll suffer
with I don't feel I'm sorry, I don't feel come to you don't care,
you'll come saying if you have assessed something. No, what I don't
feel comme is making a statement when I think it's part of a larger discussion.
Don't even say who it is, Just answer, have you assessed it?
This is great? By the way, don't even I don't you know,
and you never have to say it out loud, but in your head
at any point, did you go If we do, then maybe it'll be
be or maybe see. But you don't even have to say which one.
Just just let me know that the thought crossed your mind. Put his way
there. There will be an assessment of this question within the US government.
We think you I have a position right now to say what that is because
I think this is part of a larger discussion. Honestly, it's amazing.
I think it goes back to your original statement, which was probably the correct
one, that you have not objectively looked at this and you got it right
from you. Another question part of what the US government wants to do.
I can't you're supposed to be part of the US in the US government but
I will not. I have more time. Sorry, all right, And
then mister you know, pants up to his chesticles as they're trying to shut
this down because he realizes this is awful. I think what you're not understanding
here is what she's saying in all fairness. Okay, all right? Oh
wait, are you objectively looking I have, Yeah, I've looked at it
objectively and subjectively simultaneously. So let me just say I think what you're missing
here is I think her point is is that this is something the government should
handle and there needs to be a broader conversation on the issue. So,
but this is but she she is the government, She's the US Undersecretary of
State for Arms Control. Once again, I'm just trying to trying to throw
an olive branch here, like you a hand across the aisle. Right,
So, one thing we can definitely agree on, right, is that Palestine.
Uh if you see that as a thing and Israel. Well, she's
definitely recommending the two state solution, which would include that and Israel, which
is definitely a thing we can we can both agree. Right, you can
concur that those are not states in the United States of America. Are those
states? Are those are the are the one of the no I have objectively.
So what she's saying is somebody in government in that department should have this
broader discussion and not her, which they're not parts of the United States,
and she is secretary of State. There's fifty states under secretary of State,
and she's looking at this and she's like, this is none of my business.
I'll have the conversation with you. But I I represent the fifty United
States because I work in the secretary that you know what I mean. It's
under secretary of State. We can't agree on this, correct, that would
be one state. That's not states plural, You're just not which state is
she in charge of arms control and international security? Right? That would be
the United States, the fifty of them. But like what happens in gods
there, it's none of her business, but an international imply things that aren't
part of the United States. What we need is to have this is part
of a deeper discussion. All right, Yes, that's the and that's what
this is. We need to do the discussion. Right there, they're going,
what I like if she honestly thinks that her purview is is the United
States, because she works in the state department in Nebraska or Utah, but
over there, I don't remember. I'm the one who thinks. I'm the
only one who thinks. But I'm probably right that Joe Biden did call the
Mexican President demanding the opening of the uh of the gates. I think he
was telling the truth when he said that, and not just confused. And
I think the Mexican President, just to keep things on the level, was
like, oh, sure, absolutely, man, we'll get right on that.
So nothing is past that. That's terrifying, that's not just Look,
I there's a whole lot of upper echelon folks that we've encountered over the years,
you know, especially like with all the FBI stuff, right what you
saw within the FBI and the smugness of that agent, and also you know
the the the wholesale clear leaking of information by the number two at the and
he just gets to walk away and get a fat TV contract like you see
it. But I I to them, I assign evil motives. I just
think this woman's dumb. And I saw people who were mad at the congressman
because they said that after he realized that she obviously didn't know objectively or assessment.
He then continued down that road, and of course they assigned racism to
it because he's white and she's black. But he did it to humiliate her.
That's stupid if you're at that level and you don't know what the these
aren't complicated, even sat words like back in the day, this's the objectively
an assessment. Those are simple words that you should know at this level.
At this point you live, I feel, especially in your line of work.
But nope, nope, it continued on. And then after all of
that run around, there was a question, which I think is a very
valid question that's thrown that then is just ignored. So let's get the last
one. Why do you think that we should make a country out of a
people that just conducted a Jewish genocide four months ago? Okay, all right,
no assessment, no objectivity in there. Why do you think that we
should we should make a country out of the perpetrators of this this October seventh
attack? October sixth, and then obviously the seventh is when they started the
pushback. Why do you think should that be the reward? And keep in
mind, this is on the very same day that there's a UN report out
which I can't even deep dive with you on the radio, but the headline
reads sadistic humiliation, mutilation, and gang rape were part of Hamasu's strategy,
So not just things that happened, but things that were ordered or encouraged and
horrific narratives like using edged weapons to stab hostages private areas before executing them to
inflict maximum humiliation, and then rape as a weapon, which in a couple
anecdotal instances was so violent and so prevalent that the victims were begging to be
executed. Right, So why should somebody who feels that that is acceptable and
encouraged from a managerial standpoint, why would you reward them with the country if
you haven't determined if those are going to be the same cats in power?
That's the question. Fair, absolutely fair question, and really I think what
he was trying to get at. So what do you think, ma'am?
I'm not sure what you're what you're asking. Can I have time to repeat
the question for her, mister Chips, since she doesn't understand I object,
Chairman for do you objectively object or just object? So the question to repeat
it? Since you said you don't understand Chairman, I continue to object,
why do you want to make a country people that just conducted a Jewish genocide?
And I said it very clearly, Please answer. I'm not going to
respond to a question about about that. I don't. I don't feel like
I would. I want to answer your question, I really do, but
I still feel like I'm in the position right now that I can answer those
type of questions when I when I this is a question that's going to be
just this is a question for the US government, and you're the US government.
Yes, I undoubtedly we're still work. We're still thank you, mister
Chairman for indulging me to repeat the question. And she's said, well,
we're still we're still working as part of the larger discussion, which is one
thing they're having. But too again, she is in there to promote a
specific course of action, So they're not in the maybe phase. They're in
the this is what they recommend it? What is your recommendation? And then
the follow up question, which is it's not just a government thing, right
I have I think you've probably run into it. I've run into it.
Right, you are tasked with something, you're talking to whoever your supervisor is
and the supervisor may ask why you did something or why you chose to do
it that way, and it can be drilled down where you know there's a
problem and they're trying to get to the bottom of it. It may be
because they just want to understand your thinking as to how you got there.
A lot of times people are decent communicators know that when speaking with somebody who
may have oversight over them, what level of detail in the decision making process
to brain like, we have some bosses who don't They don't care how we
got the answer, just sentiment. They're busy, and you got others who
they want a little more detail. That's fine. That's this woman's gig and
it is painful. And again, she's not an analyst. She's not just
somebody crunching numbers where they're not asking her to use her experience and you know,
things that she've seen and people she's talked to and upper level meeting she's
been in. She's one of those, Hey, the buck stops here,
which is why she's sitting there. And I don't know that I've come across
somebody in that level that is so remarkably unqualified for their job. It's a
high bar. So congrats on that. All right, we'll be back hang
on. It's the Cacoday Radio program, Friday edition. About thirty minutes out
from chatting with Pete Calender as we do, and lots to get in to,
including what in the world this is West Charlotte High School. So apparently
teachers at West Charlotte High School decided to they decorated their doors, which is
not unusual, right, decorated doors in a high school setting, as somebody
who was a football and the football team anytime we had a big home game,
the cheerleaders would go and they would decorate doors and stuff locker room and
teachers doors and all of that. So that's not unusual, and you know,
so the teachers did it, but they decided to make it a teachable
moment. And when photos emerged, there were some questions and there were a
variety of different iteration, but the theme of it was Black History Month.
So here's some of the other examples. One teacher decided to decorate their door
as the entrance to Motown, so it looks like you're coming to Motown and
then it says under it from chains to change. Okay, But the one
that really draw drew attention. Was a teacher who actually has a large enough
classroom that they have two doors so you can get in and out. And
so the idea that they went with was one was a colored entrance and one
was a white entrance. Yep, that's a thing, and that was the
language used. You get the paper, the construction paper over the door.
The white entrance obviously went with white paper with black lettering the top it,
and they went with a dark brown on the other one. And photos emerged
because you now have two separate, yet arguably equal I guess entrances, as
they're right next to each other. How do you think? And here's the
thing, because again I tried to objectively analyze this, I could and hear
me out. I could understand if you are doing a lesson on black history
that on maybe like the first day, right, the kids go home,
it's end of January, and then I don't know which school day was first
in February, whatever, the date is right, And then when the students
show up that Monday, rather than it looking just normal doors, they see
those two things, and at that point the teacher seizes the opportunity to say,
hey, let's talk about why that says that and goes over it.
I don't think I would have. I don't think most parents have a problem
with that. Some would, but I you know that is that is an
accurately teachable moment. There's more complexity, but to whatever level you want to
teach it. I just when I say complexity, I mean in the ways
that that manifested depending on where you grew up. But fine, go ahead
and do that. I think it's the part where it's just been chilling like
that all month, and then eventually somebody, some parents got to be like,
what the hell's going on, here's the pictures my kid, and they
posted them on social media. Yeah, the district said one school leadership was
made aware of the display, it was taken down. The teacher's daughter I
actually gave an interview to w CNC in Charlotte and said she understood her mother's
vision was to represent segregation, and the display is being taken down. Her
only thing was making sure the kids knew or could see a visual of how
things were back in the day, which again is why I think if it
was a one off, because you want that emotional reaction, right, that's
that's an effective teaching tool, and I liked I liked teachers who got out
of just here's the book, here's the end of chapter, assessment, rinse
and repeat. Right, give me some visuals to you know, give me
some give me some non traditional traditional teaching methods. And as somebody who nerds
out on history anyway, I don't know that I'd have a problem but leaving
it up all month, that's where that's where they drew the line. The
specific the specific explanation, by the way, is the decoration recreated a Sears
store from the nineteen thirties and was based on a photo. Okay, all
right, we a lot of those exist. The purpose of the door was
to show that Sears, a department store, was one of the first stores
that allowed blacks to shop with white people, albeit through a separate entrance.
Which again, this is why I pointed out, Yes, there's going to
be different variations based on different narratives, and that's when you get into the
whole separate but equal thing. Another great teachable moment on that that I think
is readily utilized is one that here in North Carolina we're famous for and obviously
in the triad, right woolworst Man these are all things. These are all
actual historical things that, if this is the subject matter you're teaching, are
wholly appropriate. But the visual aid was a bridge too far. Now,
I don't think it rises to the level of mock slave auctions, which it
seems like we hear that story every year. I don't know I've heard one
yet this year, but I'm sure there's been one where somebody thinks that's a
good idea. But holy crap, man, let's see, they got a
bunch of people defending the teacher here, saying I think the teacher did a
great job of recreating and illustrating what the times were. No, I'll put
that. Look, I'll put that in the maybe column. You can,
you can weigh in. I think I'd have to know a little more track
record on the teacher. But that comes down to parents being actively involved in
understanding the people who are literally shaping their kids' minds, and sometimes, until
there's a problem, those conversations aren't being had. But in this case they
were. Uh, And the school says, whoops, go ahead and take
that down. Uh. Whereas this police in Bedford are investigating a break in.
Uh, it's quite the this the robber got here we go, all
right, So here's what the burglar, according to the police report, stole
engagement rings value of fifteen hundred dollars, gold necklace, a couple rings with
inset like ruby see jade necklace, diamond hart necklace, some silver dollars which
are I guess there's a certain rarity they're valued at like twenty dollars apiece,
and I think they got fifty of them, some loose change and one hundred
trillion or excuse me, two hundred trillion in currency that is actually listed on
the report here. Yes, In addition to the contents of the jewelry box,
the robbers also made off with two No, it would be more than
two hundred trillion. What comes after trillion? What is the word for,
you know, you know, million, billion, trillion? I fail to
remember. It would be twenty of whatever that is, no, two of
whatever? That is. The currency in question were twenty one hundred trillion dollars
Zimbabwe and bills, which you know, our collector's items obviously are not worth
one hundred trillion each. But they didn't get twenty and it broke the input
system, as the police report couldn't even handle that valuation. But you know
how government will you know how they'll charge you, see, like drug crimes
charges this way, they're like, oh, he had he had ten million
dollars worth of weed, and it's like did he though? I don't know
about that? So like if they catch this dude, right, do you
charge him with whatever felony escalator that goes to? I don't know. But
if somebody does, like try to pay off a debt in Zimbabwe in one
hundred tillion dollars bills, you should let the police know because there is a
certain rarity to them. All right, seven forty five. We've got ken
Boon today helping us round out the rest of the week. Yep, can
boone today? How you doing, sir? Made it to Friday? Made
it to Friday. We do have some wet weather out there today as we
finish out the week. Cloudy skies, breezy, scattered showers, even a
rumble of thunder possible today. Temperatures into the low part of the sixties,
low forties tonight. Is we headed too tomorrow morning sunshine Saturday, but look
for a few showers through the late afternoon hours. It'll be a little cooler
tomorrow. With middle new upper fifties. Sunday looks nice though, lots of
sunshine, a little cool, temperatures in the mid fifties, and then warming
back up for early next week. Sunshine Monday, Tuesday, mid sixties Monday,
but low seventies Tuesday and mid seventies expected Wednesday. All right, Ken,
thank you, we'll talking an hour. Appreciate it Allriday, coming up
there was it's quadrillion. Okay, that's what I thought. I just didn't
want to sound stupid, so does quadrillion? All right, So somebody's rolling
around with several quadrillion dollars in their pocket. They may have burglarized a home
maybe, or you know, maybe they want a lottery or something. I
don't know, but that would be the term. So thank you for that.
All right? Coming up on the show yesterday, I was amused but
also slightly concerned. A reporter used to be a reporter for News and Observer.
I think he is. He works for the public radio now was it
Colin Colin Campbell? Right? Anyway? I just happen to notice he posted
something that was slightly tongue in cheek on Twitter. Raised a question and what
I found a little depressing is I didn't know the answer to it. Admittedly
I guess I didn't, but also there were like elected officials who didn't know
the answer, and I feel like maybe they should. I'll tell you what
the question was, and I'll let you know what our research turned up.
Coming up next here on the KCO Day radio program. How is this not
a Bond film? Holy cow? This should be bigger news? And yes
it did, idiot, and it involved let's see, cooperation by the DEA
US Drug Enforcement Administration. So federal prosecutors unveiled yesterday. I guess wednesday that
a gentleman by the name of Taikeshi Ebisawa, who is a Japanese national,
was apprehended. Mister Abisawa is the head of one of the Yakuza families or
groups I guess, I don't know technically what they're called, but one of
the Yakuza groups, and of which there are multiple, I guess if you
didn't know that, I don't kind of like the mob a little, but
there's some nuances. I've watched a couple of really fascinating documentaries on this,
so anyway, but he's one of the bosses, and as such, when
there's a big, big transaction. Hey, Buck stops with you. He
was involved, and according to prosecutors, he was conspiring to sell at the
time of his apprehension, which happened in Thailand. By the way, he
was attempting to complete a sale of weapons grade plutonium to Iran, or that's
what he thought. Turned out it was Iran in this case was undercover agents
from the DEEA. But you know, that's that's the stuff you see in
an action flick where you know, Stallone's got to go stop him, or
Schwarzenegger or somebody. Man. This is that is you think of the yakuza
and organized crime and and all of it, and really the fantastical representations within
Hollywood. But this dude straight up had the materials and was gonna sell them
to Iran. Which that's always a plot point that troubles me in movies where
you got some guy who's like selling He's basically said it, he knows that
a nuke's gonna go off, his transactions good, And it's like, well,
you don't, do you know the details arend to do it? Do
you have like a handshake agreement? You're like, I'm vacationing in Germany in
August. Could you not nuke if you have a target there? I don't
know how that works, But in this case it was a a DEA agent,
And actually there was a lot of stuff all told. The Aakuza head
had showed up to transfer ownership of five thousand in AK forty seven's crap ton
of ammunition, five sixteen's twenty sixties, the gun of Rambo tracer regge just
again, lots of lot. Here we go. Mortars. Wow, there's
what there's about ten thousand mortar units ranging from sixty mil to one hundred and
twenty sniper all sorts of sniper rifles, RPGs, portable SAM units including one
hundred rockets each, and the weapons grade plutonium. Yeah, that's straight up
action. Flick right there. He's now charged with all the stuff in all
the countries. Yeah, you're probably gonna get the book thrown at you there,
buddy. So I mean, I'm glad, But also how many of
these transactions happen and don't happen? You know, and don't it's not the
DEA, it's just bad guy on bad guy. I don't know if I
want to, I don't know if I want to know the answer to that.
It's right going to be not paying attention to anything here in a very
short order. But before then, you know, we got a head in
the game. So to help us do some of the things we do around
here, we're inviting Pete Calender as we do to the conversation. And Pete,
I've asked that you be because you know, folks hear us but they
don't see us. I've asked Google Gemini to render you and you're now a
one hundred pound Asian woman. So if you yeah, mm hmm night.
Yeah, yeah, I mean I could have gone in it really in a
really you know, awful direction for me, so I'll take it. Yeah,
No, it looked same. You look kind of like the uh the
representation of a Super Bowl winning quarterback. That was right, Pilgrim. Yeah,
what were some of your favorites from all that stupidity? Because the Vikings,
I think the Vikings. I think the Vikings was my favorite. Because
what about Nazis? Nazis was interesting. I did not see the Nazis.
I saw the Russian soldier, but it did return one kind of white guy
looking image and so that was like, okay, you know, it got
closed. I mean it did yield also, and you know a black soldier
image, which is weird, like it's a it's a Russian soldier from like
the thirties. And I would know, you know some of the uh the
images that were generated for the musical of some royal Canadian mounties or something,
and that did result or produce some results that included a white person. Uh
so that was you know, baby steps here people. Although I did see
one that returned it was like one of the only successful tests for Gemini to
actually return a white person, and it was, you know, please show
me an image of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, and that did. Actually
that's spot on right there, yeah, right, that did return a white
guy image. So well, hold on, let's not sell it short.
They also were successful with show me an image of somebody in a giant bucket
of fried chicken, happily eating or something, and so it rendered four images
of white dudes with big grins on their faces in oversized KFC buckets sitting,
So that worked. But with the Nazi one, this is why it's important.
Somebody said, show me Nazi officers from the nineteen thirties, and it
was there were no white dudes, there were Asian there was an Asian woman,
there was a black dude. There was a guy who looks like he's
like poon job, there's and so so that that apparently irritated the New York
Times, who is now reporting on this because that thing happened, and that's
that's where they're ire. Uh lays right, so had it, so had
had Gemini. And for folks who don't know, Gemini is the Google AI
product. And so you can go to these AI products and you can type
in things, you know, give me an image of and you just like
fill in whatever you want an image of it, and it will generate uh,
these sort of what would you call him? Like it's almost like a
cross between a painting and a photograph kind of an image. Well, yeah,
you can really you can. You can detail these things. You can
be hyper specific. You can say, give me an image of Pete on
a unicycle eating a banana while throwing a water balloon at something. It like,
they'll drill down on this. The difference here was it was the lack
of specificity that was blowing people's minds. And did you see where somebody actually
asked the AI like, how does that keep happening? And it essentially it
told on itself if you believe it, and it said when you go and
you ask it for something, it literally is in the coding to insert another
word in your search term. So if you said, show me a picture
of Leprecauns, it would search as though you would type show me a picture
of diverse leprecauns. And for leprecauns, that's fine because Leprechauns are a mythical
creature. The problem arose with things like super Bowl winning quarterback Popes, English
kings of the fourteenth century, where we have data points, so or even
just a white male it would not even like some of the most egregious ones
to me are when people said, you know, give me an image of
a white guy, and it would not even return that. But you can
answer black guys you get for Hispanic eyes, You could have for every other
race and ethnicity, but not white people, which like, and I suspect
what what got the New York Times still upset was that, you know,
the Nazis, like the ultimate villains of all world history, right, they
were white, So why can't you show the white guys as the ultimate villains.
I suspect that's what really got under their skin. It is it is
all the rest of it stuff, right, they ignore all of the other
stuff. And here, so here's the here's the problem for Google AI,
but also this larger ideological project. And it is right, this is this
stuff is embedded in the code for a reason. Right. So here here's
the problem. Is that you can talk about search term results stuff getting ranked
higher on the pages that Google returns and whatever, and most people don't care.
Right, They're going to go to the Google machine. They're going to
ask for something, it's going to give them a response, and they're going
to say, okay, that's the response. I'm gonna look at the first
search result and that's it. Even if they're told Google is putting its thumb
on the scale. This this does more like a picture's worth a thousand words.
This does way more. This now brings it home and exposes in a
very real sense what the problem actually is with the code. And so it
does what the other stories about the algorithms could never do is that it breaks
through. Yes, honey, and we have harped on this show over and
over that there is in modern times possibly one of the most important things,
especially when you get into the keeping of historical records and things like that,
is he who programs the algorithm, because AI will be utilized in a thousand
different ways every day by businesses you come into content, even ones you don't
are influential upon your life will be utilized, and those tools will be utilized
for a name, things like AI providing better ordering systems for stores, right
better to analyze and know what to have on hand. And so when you
think of the death by a thousand cuts, whatever is the popular one that's
adapted into it, and that control of market share, which famously Google's done
to the ninetieth percentile. In many elements of what they do, it will
shape. It will shape things and decisions and choices that you have. And
going back to the stocking of a store, you know, I'm sure that
that algorithm will come up with things that it feels are representative, are things
that white people want and not just because the store sells that the most.
Where it will make a decision, albeit an AI conscious decision that we need
to we need to expand what people are using so they they may stock products
or order things that aren't in the best interest of the store, but are
in the best interest of diversity. Now, you could say that that's a
store problem, but incorporate that into all sorts of other stuff. Trying to
book a flight, trying to figure out using AI to scan resumes. Right,
all of these things will be done and utilized and people won't see it
in the background. So you're right, this is what they will see.
But they'll also get the same frustration that you and I get when we go
Google a story that we know, we talked about two years ago, which
somehow has just disappeared from the Google search results and they go to another one
and boom, there's everything you need. Well, and what makes it even
more insidious is that people will believe that they have done the research. They
will believe that they had all the options available, that they knew what they
were deciding at the time. Right, Because you see this born out with
the search results. You know, first off, ninety nine percent of people
never go past the first page of Google search results. They will click on
stuff off usually the first second, and then maybe the third link, and
that's it. They will never go to any of the other pages. Right,
So you actually have companies will that market their services to boost search results
and move them higher into that list. That's why people sponsor links to be
higher in the list. And you have AI that decides this stuff. Okay,
if you're buying something, you know you're buying a broom or a mop,
that doesn't matter so much. But let's say you're doing research on particular
candidates or public policy and you have certain candidates that negative stories get pushed to
the top, positive ones get down, get pushed down in that list or
onto you know, page four or five. People will never see it,
but they will believe that they have done their research into those candidates before they
go and vote. And if you don't think that this can happen, it
already has it happened a decade ago there were researchers that actually did this and
they showed they can manipulate the outcome of elections in India with search engine results.
So if you consume that that can't happen, it already has. And
uh, Google's position thus far as what whoopsie, but nothing insidious, right,
I mean, that's that's basically the read I got off of what they
said. Meanwhile, there you know, of course the they this guy who
is literally in charge of this for Google. He got five minutes into his
tweets yesterday. And it's exactly who you think's pulling the strings there, exactly
who you think, right, It always is right. Yeah, they are
who we thought they were right to coute Rick Patina. Yeah, I couldn't
caricature it anymore. Hey, I got a question because I'm actually on the
fence with this. That thing that happened over it was at West Charlotte High
School with the doors or do I have that story here we go? Yeah,
West Charlotte High School where one of the teachers there decorated their class Their
classroom has two doors to get in it, and so they put one as
a colored entrance and one as a white entrance. And it wasn't a one
off, it was. It was up until some parents complained in the schools,
like we had no idea, and so they took it down on the
fence. I'm on the fence because this isn't holding mock slave auctions, which
is the other doozy we generally hear. But I like history, good,
bad or otherwise. I don't know how you said about it, but and
I think that if students were to return and let's say it's the first day
of February. They're back and they walk up on their classroom and they see
that it would there's gonna be an emotional response, and also it provides a
teachable moment. So in that essence, I don't know that I have a
problem with it. But then if it's up all month and it's it's turned
into this, you know, these these jokes on social media and everything else,
and then finally they address it, how do you feel about that?
Because people get very touchy about whether kids are being taught. I don't know
if in all situations that's one hundred percent inappropriate, right, I would say,
I think I come down on this as you do, which is day
one. Make the point because this is I mean that lesson will stay with
those kids forever, right Right. You come home or you come back to
the classroom after you know, Christmas break or something or a Monday morning,
and you come in and what is this? And that is shocking, And
then the teacher says, here is the here's the reason I did it.
This was the norm, just so you understand, like this is where it
was, you know, sixty seventy years ago, this was the norm.
And then then you go through and you talk about the people who work to
tear down that system of oppression. And then you tear down the paper on
the doors, right, you take down the signs, And I think that's
a powerful lesson. When you leave it up for a long period of time,
it's like, Okay, now you're you're you're cheapening the impact. Whereas
I think there is a valuable lesson to be had there, but you you
now cheapen the impact because it's become you know, like you said, it's
a it's a joke, and it's up there for all this time and now
making me wonder what are the actual motivations you know, of the of the
teacher to do all of this. So yeah, I think one day is
good leaving it up. Though not so much because yeah, I think if
you don't know your history, you are doing to repeat it. And I
think that it's important for people to know that this was the norm, and
and and also if you want to take it a step further, it's it's
the concept of it that needs to be taught, right because the teacher the
example that I think the teacher used is Sears in the nineteen thirties, and
it was based on the fact that Sears did lean into the separate but equal
earlier than a lot of businesses, because a lot of business is just like
now, you don't do business here, whereas Sars decided we'll do this,
and it created the separate equal which is a very important series of legal decisions
and how we got from me right, So there's a reason for it.
But also I think it would be intellectually honest if you would apply that to
ways that modern day applications may be kind of deviating there, Like give you
an example racially segregated graduation ceremonies, right right, that would be that's a
good thing to incorporate in that discussion. Is it appropriate now in an effort
what critics say is to fix a problem, to repeat this very same thing
and discuss there's a critical thinking lesson for these kids who may one day grow
up to be the Undersecretary of State for Weapons and international concerns and have to
testify in front of Congress but not know what objectively or assessment means. We
had the audio just a little while ago. I'm sure you saw that.
Dudes I did, I mean, did they they are not? How many
undersecretaries are there? Not enough? Apparently we need a couple of extra to
I don't know what to fix whatever was wrong with that one that we thought,
you go, look, maybe maybe blinking sitting in there, he's got
his twenty undersecretaries, Like who wants to go to the congressional hearing? And
Bonnie raises her hand. You got to make an excuse, like, you
know what, Bonnie, you're way too busy. We're gonna say this other
person, but I think I think your skill set is best allocated to this
other thing. Yeah, yeah, this's not public facing. What an absolute
train wreck. And then listening to who is it Nadler's screaming through his highly
his pants, uh the WestLine of his pants. It's just it's just everything
that's so wrong, man, just so wrong. Yeah, it's uh yeah.
When I was watching that, I thought, Okay, I mean,
I I think I kind of understand what she was sort of getting at,
which is like, these are decisions that have to be made above my pay
grade, and I'm not going to advocate for something like maybe if I'm trying
to down to advocate for her personal position, I agree with her there,
it doesn't I don't care why money once, but if you guys sat around
or your team enough to come in and represent that the official position should be
a two state solution, right then why? Right? Then? Then?
Why? Like, let's go over the inputs for that outcome and what were
the inputs? And she's like, oh, that's above my pay grade or
that's up to the government or whatever. And he keeps saying, you're the
government. But yeah, and like I understand that wasn't the best response that
you are the government. No, but to your point, if you did
the analysis, what's your analysis? And I almost wonder while I was watching
it, I don't think she knew, Like, I don't think she was
in on that assessment. Yeah, which is insane again, Right, they
sent her around here to talk about this and she doesn't have any idea what
she's talking about. But hey, you know, probably can't be fired.
So there's that. All right, Pete, I got the role. Man.
We'll leave on that depressive note. But what's your next week? Sir?
All right, buddy, sounds good, Thanks sir. We'll be back.
This is which National Guard? Is it all of them? Or no?
Okay? So it was specifically the Montana Army, National Guard and recruitment
poster. And like if if you're just glancing at it, it looks pretty
normal, right. It's member of the US who is a command sergeant major
appears to be his rank. Here, yeah, and in the in the
picture you see command sergeant major. Look at me, Keith Debout and he
is holding a photo. And in the photo you see his veteran grandfather,
Lewis. And obviously the recruitment poster is playing on a sense of duty that
is born out of a sense of tradition, which totally understandable. I got
it. And so he's standing there holding the pictures like here I am,
here's my grandfather. That's fine, and above it it says it's more than
college money, it's the spirit of tradition. And then behind him in the
photos, in fact, I got to send this to Ross so he can
tweet it out so you can see it. Behind him, you have these
black and white images of soldiers. Some are famous known shots like you know,
here's you Ajima right here is you know, Battle of the Bulge or
wherever the pictures emanate from. But the problem is to the right of him.
You see the back of some soldiers marching, and the thing is that's
a known photograph. What it depicts is it depicts soldiers marching into Paris to
seize it. Ross. Can you look up and see who sees Paris during
World War two? We's gonna look that up, so gonna check out.
Oh good lord, what what was it? Not? The Army Nation?
Was it? The Air National Guard? It was not? It was not
us. It was not. Is it who you would call? Quote the
Allies? Oh? They do. They have a name that also starts with
a so oh okay, all right, that's like how it's such an apparent
thing though, like, well it's it's from the back. But decidedly you're
right because their uniforms are darker. But you have you know, you've never
watched any documentary or any movie in World War two ever, Like you can
tell you that and know there are there are few you can look at the
uniform remulate that's not it's the uniform. Why just send it to you?
You you give her a glance, and I mean you do have to,
I guess a little know what to look for. But arguably there were people
with military experience probably who were involved in the designing of the poster, right,
they you can't see the swastikas or anything like that. But again,
one, it's a known photo. But two, even if it's if it's
not something you knew was a known photo, you would notice that it's different
than the other uniforms in the other pictures of the same era. So yeah,
they're very sorry. They're gonna they'll they'll figure it out. So I
don't I don't know stuff like that happens, But then I kind of do.
I don't know. People are human. But still, you know,
I got to. I just want this to my cousin because he holds he
holds a similar rank to this guy or held And now all the military guys
are riding me make an army joke. Come on, that's not nice.
No, I refuse it, because I think my cousin is one of the
smartest people I know, and he held the same time. You know,
he held the top enlisted rank when he retired this year from the military,
and his especially his it was recruiting. So he'll get a kick out of
this. He might even know this dude. Actually, all right, I
don't know that this the guy in the picture is one who put it together,
but he is the face of the screw up here apparently, So damn
all right, you check it out. We'll tweet it out at Casey on
the radio. All right. So yesterday I'm strolling on the twitters and they
come across a post from public radio report used to work for the News and
Observer, I believe I remember correctly, and he this is what he wrote.
He says, looks like both the governor and lieutenant governor in d C
today Cooper for the Governor's Association meeting. Robinson was speaking up at Seapeck.
So while they're out of the state, who's technically considered the acting governor?
Right, because this is a conversation that just came up obviously when Cooper was
out I think it was out of the country actually, and Mark Robinson did
a proclamation and everyone lost their minds like he was staging a coup. But
that is it. You know, that is an interesting question. How does
that work? Because that is how in North Carolina if the governor's not in
the state, the lieutenant governors basically acting governor. But traditionally it's not like
they're really doing anything unless something really crazy happened. But if they're both gone,
who's gone? And so I collected it because I'm just curious. I
didn't know. I And what I found a little disconcerting is people who were
and most people were having kind of fun with this, but people who literally
would be in the line of secession who also didn't seem to know offhand,
Like if you got a number in that lottery, you're gonna know what it
is, right, And I know, I understand to get a little complex
once you get out, once you get away from the obvious positions. A
lot of times the line of secession, at both at the federal level and
at state level, it drops into cabinet zone kind of or Council of State
as we have here. And it's surprising, I think to some people that
the Secretary of Agriculture could be the president if the right sequence of events happened.
But like then, they they just had a whole show on this right
where some low level cabinet guys the president, and then of course they had
to take it in de had to ruin it like they do everything else.
So I'm like, one, I think you'all should know, especially if you're
in there. So I looked it up. So yesterday afternoon I decided to
scour the archives to get an answer. And just so you don't think that
we did this flippantly and then only did one resource while I scoured the archives,
Ross, you consulted the scrolls, right, I do. I took
archives, you know, so I went extra step. I did the scrolls
and the tablets and the tap. You did that, both of them.
Okay, well I'm sorry I didn't really I thought you just did the scrolls
and then coupled with me scouring the ancient archives, and it's it goes Roy
Cooper, Mark Robinson and then this is crazy me and then you Ross.
So that's your It was that order right there. And like I said,
scrolls, tablets and archives all consultant, no need to look at up.
I wasn't expecting this, right, but you know, I'm a particular for
the rules. Rules are my passionate. I mean, yeah, this is
what it says. I mean, I mean the archives are ancient for a
reason, right, Yeah, as are the scrolls and the tablets, all
of which have been scoured in or consulted. So so anyway, now you
were saying after the show, you wanted to go meet on the top floor
by the new windows is up. Yeah, we got some new winders.
Yeah, no, you have winds there. You want to media, you
said you want me to get a good look out of the You gotta see
the view, Okay, all right, especially on a rainy day leg today,
Yeah, very very slippery gray and yeah, oh you love it.
It's beautiful. I don't know if I like slippery on the on the on
the eleventh floor, but okay, all right, Well I'm sure that that's
a wholesome request, so uh but yeah, do clarify. That's how that
goes. So next time those two are out, and I'm sure, I'm
sure there's be an election season and all those at some point they will be
and so you know, I just practice your bowing, probably do that.
That'd be good. And you know, get ready because we got some we
got some thoughts, all right, eight forty five, let's get some weather
thoughts with Ken Boone. And he's thinking wet weather because why not. It's
the weekend. That's where well it's not a total wash out. The second
half of the weekend is going to be really nice. As we look towards
Sunday, we do have some showers out and about today, even a few
rumbles of thunder. It'll be breezy, cool, high temperatures in a low
part of the sixties. Clouds we'll begin to break up late this afternoon and
into tonight, temperatures that iight into low forties. We'll start out with sunshine
Saturday, but scattered afternoon showers expected Tomorrow. It'll be a little colder,
middle to upper fifties. Sunshine Sunday. To finish the weekend chilly, mid
fifties, and then warming up quite a bit for next week. Mid sixties
Monday with sunshine. We're into the seventies Tuesday, Wednesday. All right,
thank you, sir, and we'll talk. Well. I guess he's back
next week. Huh he is scheduled to be back. Yes, that's always
got change. Yeah, absolutely, all right, what a life man?
All right? Having good week? Ken, are you too? Yeah?
All right? And Joan Doneger Bloomberg News joins us. Next, hang on,
Joan donnegher, what's happening? Well, it was not a cyber hack.
The AT and T nationwide wireless outage yesterday, the company says, while
working on a network expansion, there was what it termed an incorrect process,
and that of course, disrupted wireless service for hundreds of thousands of subscribers,
and the FBI and Department of Homeland Security started investigations because of it. GM
has always planned to put its Cruise robotaxi unit on the road in Raleigh.
It was collecting data on that possibility last fall when a Cruise self driving taxi
dragged a pedestrian in San Francisco and a company lost its driving privileges in California.
But Cruise could hit the road again, this time in Dallas and Houston.
The company's focusing on its comeback plan in Dallas or in Texas, where
regulations are a little looser. This could be a tough act to follow.
How does the concert industry top a year in which Ticketmasters saw a forty four
percent jump in sales and concerts in its concert business last year thanks Taylor Swift.
Ticketmaster's parent Live Nation says well, concert ticket sales have increased so far
this year, it's only been by six percent. Now, during the spring
and summer, it expects big sales growth. The company says if fans want
the in person experience, the Hollywood writers and actors strike may have hit home.
Warner Brothers Discovery saw a bigger than expected loss last quarter because of delays
in the release of new shows and movies, even though the strike said it
months ago. Post production takes a long time and time to queue. Homer
Simpson go, Yeah, who doesn't love them? And thieves certainly do.
They stole a van delivering ten thousand Crispy kremes last year in Australia. But
donuts aren't the only prizes. Years of rising prices for food case have made
every everyday items, including donuts, a big target for criminals. The British
Standards Institution says thefts of foods and beverages make up more than a fifth of
all theft incidents around the world last year. What do you do with ten
thousand Crispy creams? Like, because it's not you gotta flip there's a time
frame in which you got to flip them, even if you ate to as
many as you could stomach, Like very wasteful, very sad and very well
yeah, well they probably found that out. Yeah, all right, Well,
thank you so much, have a good weekend. Thanks for hanging out
this week. Jeff will be back next week. Well we'll hear about his
world travels, no doubt, so we'll talk to them. Thanks, Joan,
appreciate it. Joe Donnager there from Bloomberg News. Ross. Do you
ever do any fishing? I can't remember if I've ever we've ever talked about
fishing. Yeah, it once, wow with my grandfather, remember it his
nick? Oh that's never mind, We did talk about that. Well,
you know what that's you know, there's a learning curve in your kid learning
how to fish. And I talked because I hooked my dad. Yeah,
like how come the hook is it going into the pond? What was this
stuck on? Oh my god, it's stuck in my grandfather's neck and it's
bleeding like a spicket. Well and he's like, oh fine, you might
be able to identify authorities in Georgia, say a fisherman was, you know,
fishing as you do when he hooked something. And for any of you
who fish, like a media, almost immediately you know, if you hook
something that's not a fish, it's not a fish, and so you know,
maybe give it a pool, maybe a log comes up, or you
know the old classic tire in the cartoons. It was none of those things.
According to authorities, the fisherman able to bring up out of the water
what it had hooked, and it was a dude, specifically a dude's body,
which was not apparently what he was after. And it was on a
fly rod too, which there's a little extra skill set there. So I
wondered if he was sinking like a wooly bugger or something. No, no,
but anyway, Uh yeah, one doesn't look like you get to keep
him two probably not in the slot limit anyway. So but you know,
obviously police are investigating what's up with that? And where was this ross?
She used to live in Georgia? Right where was oh, this is in
this on the chattahoo is on the Chattahoochie River in Columbus, Georgia. Has
anyone asked Alan Jackson about this? I mean, I know he says he
was just hanging out by the river and it was pale moonlight that night,
but also limited moonlight. Seems like that's when I would want to hide a
body or sink one in the Chattahoochie River. Probably Muscogee cant I don't I'm
from a geographic standpoint, I don't really know anything about the area. But
they do believe this is the speculation that the the trophy may have been the
remains of somebody who jumped in the river off of a bridge obviously committed suicide
there, or they say it could be an accidental drowning. I feel like
you should have more leads than that. But AnyWho, that's horrible right there,
But I guess also useful if it's for the family of whomever this is
when they were able to identify them. All right. On that note,
I did see we tweeted out the recruiting poster, or go take a gander
at that on the Twitter. See if you would immediately know those are Nazi
soldiers, I guess if you didn't know the backstory in the background. But
I guess I'm real curious if you want to comment on it. It's at
Casey on the radio. I did. I think if you're a military individual,
that almost should be instantaneously recognizable, But again, I don't know.