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What is it about four day weeks? You know why? It's because they're

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abnormal. As weird as that sounds, even if they're one day less,

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they're kind of not normal. And
there's a lot of stuff that has to

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get done behind the scenes. And
I'm sure this goes for a lot of

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people's jobs. Even though you're off, there's still a bunch of stuff that

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has to happen. So you,
like you do. You basically do part

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of another day's work folded into your
other days so that you can accommodate that

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day. So reality from a workload
standpoint, and it is what it is.

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I'm not here to start a union, but I feel like the only

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way to make that not a thing
is to normalize four day weeks. So

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now five days was the abnormal or
three days, then I feel like things

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would level out just a little more. You ever noticed ross two, Like

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try telling the salesperson that you have
to move something who also has the day

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off, Like sometimes it's just not
clicking with them. And I'm like,

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yeah, you know how, that's
going to be a day off and you're

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not gonna be here. So here's
what we're gonna Guess what I'm not going

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to be here either, So yeah, it's really weird. It's weird how

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it's on the company calendar there.
So that's that's what I would advocate once

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again, uh here on the show, so start the movement, all right,

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coming up on the show, because
again I said we're going to do

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this thing. So it was around
what two fifteen, AT and T say,

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two fifteen they said they had full
restoration. So the the outage insanity

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from yesterday I saw, I saw
little. I saw people trying to say

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it was sun spots and stuff,
which is a thing that can happen.

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Now I'll give you ea to what
AT and T officially says it is.

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But you know, people are like, oh, well I saw people on

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Twitter explaining sun spots and what might
be going on. And I don't know

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if you know this. We in
the radio industry we deal with sunspots.

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That's an actual issue, and it
becomes an issue if you have programming that

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is satellite fed. So annually there
are there are literally windows, predictable windows

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during which we behind the scenes can
monitor and make sure, especially as a

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news talk station which runs a lot
of Premiere, which is the syndicator group

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that Limbaugh was on, and obviously
Glenn Beck Sean Hannity the there's a work

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around all of this stuff. So
I saw that, yes same people.

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I'm like, I don't know,
man, because that sounds a little swamp

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gassy off venus. But it is
actually a thing that conjack with satellites.

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But it sounded like there were bigger
issues now at and T, who was

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the service primarily affected, and looked
like a lot of the other effect was

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ancillary, basically piggybacking off AT and
T towers and or one side of the

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call being AT and T. So
I'm not just picking on them. And

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they said it was the thing that
I said it was yesterday. I said

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it was one of two things that
was firmly possible. One it could be

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a cyber attack. We've talked on
this show many times China doing with China,

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and that's just China. We got
tons of places or you know,

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North Korea has their own thing,
and they're not altogether completely muzzled as you

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saw surrounding all the Sony insanity.
But the other thing I said is somebody's

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dumb, all right, somebody's screwed
up, man, Because we're human,

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these things happen. So, according
to AT and T, the hours long

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outage that impacted most of North America, because this is actually extended into Canada

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was actually the result of, let
me read it, the application and execution

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of an incorrect process used as we
are expanding our network, not a cyber

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attack, and so I, you
know, fifty percent nailed it. It

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was. What's also interesting, though, is then I have to listen to

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bloviating politicians. And this is not
a defense of AT and T. I

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I happen to be a customer of
AT and T, but I am not.

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AT and T does not I'm not
an endorser. AT and T doesn't

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pay me. In fact, every
month I have to pay them a lot

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more than i'd like to. That
being said, watching government ass hats sit

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there and go, you know something, we need to more closely mind anything

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that brings them more attached to a
communications network. I don't want to hear

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about. And I also don't want
to hear a bunch of government folk talking

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about how, you know, the
the in this case, the private sector

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as much as you want to call
it, with some of the relationships.

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If only they had government more up
in their you know, more up their

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butt, they do better. I
would like to remind those politicians who are

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doing this because obviously they you know, for cloud and it fits the narrative

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of all businesses or evil, which
if you wanted to make it an at

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and T is evil argument, I
can understand why you do that, especially

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going back to some of the stuff
that the communication companies were doing with all

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that spine stuff you know, under
Bush and Obama and everybody. Right,

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So you can make that argument.
But also you're the a holes going to

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the government who told everyone in Hawaii
they're about to get a missile upside the

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head. Okay, right, so
you want to you want to put track

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records out there, you took,
you made, you made Hawaii consume porn

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at a rate previously unseen, which
is one of the fun facts from that

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whole whoops our missile incoming missile eas
system. We actually actually told everyone they

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were gonna die and and what is
a unplanned but fantastical study of society.

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Immediately a huge author the audience went, well, I'm not dying with pants

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on, so which I you know
what, man like somebody should do a

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doctoral dissertation on that. Come up
with a come up with an impact or

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effect, because admittedly that was kind
of eye opening, Like what did you

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do when you thought the missile was
about to blow you? Eh, call

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family? Do you uh, maybe
try to get to a more rural area,

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hoping that if that it was in
fact a missile attack, the targets

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would be, you know, population
centers, or did you go see if

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Mia Khalifa had a new video?
Oh you did the last one? Okay,

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all right, so I really I
don't need you and and I'm not

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even getting on the Maui fire stuff
right and that disaster, so you know,

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shut up? How's that? There? You go? All told?

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Let's see here? Do they have
a final number? Well, look,

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either you were affected or you weren't
affected. I'm assuming because my my phone

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was it ross. You had the
ass So did it just shut it off

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or did you have to restart it
or wait when it finally came back on.

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Yeah, I laid down for an
afternoon nap, which was glorious by

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the way. Oh good, after
the past two weeks. Oh you've been

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Look, you've been busy doing like
I'm gonna you're the you're doing like a

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homing garden. Reno the Whole House
show. So you've been a busy guys.

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It's been very stressful, like all
these renovations and stuff. So yesterday,

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actually it's all done. Yesterday I
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down for a little bit in the
afternoon, and woke up and it was

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fixed. So I didn't have to
do nothing, okay, all right.

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Yeah. I didn't know if that
people had to restart their phones or anything,

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because I was among the unimpacted royalty. I guess although you and I

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see some of it may have to
do with the iPhone model and you and

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you have a different iPhone than me. It was pretty sweet though, because

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when I did lay down for my
nap, I'm like, well, I

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guess I won't wake up to any
text from the boss. No. Yeah,

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that's the upside man, right there. You know how else you can

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do that turn your phone off,
you can recreate you can recreate the experiment

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every every week, or a little
house in the prairie stuff. Yeah,

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or not pay your phone bill and
yeah good point. Yeah and then boom,

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and then I won't be able to
send you prep stuff. So it's

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uh, it's a two fers.
So but yeah, that was it.

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Of course, also if it was
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I put my cynical conspiratorial hat on
if it was a cyber attack, one

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that was even marginally successful in this
level of disruption, I think A.

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I think at and T and the
government wouldn't tell us. Is that is

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that me being too cynical, because
that's like you're getting, you're getting your

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panicky level stuff. I don't.
I don't think they tell us now.

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I think they then if they could
avoid it. Yeah, Bob can't write

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code. He used to be a
coal miner and then they forced him to

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do this, and he was gonna
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And I'm not picking on Bob.
He's good at all those things.

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But I just wasn't nailing the code. And what we realized yesterday, like

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the last portion of the show,
of how it was affecting the two factor

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or whatever it is, verification,
yes, authentication. We ended up getting

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some emails like your corporate emails saying, hey, this is really affecting business.

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Yeah we called that at like eight
fifty. We're like, oh man,

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yeah, we nailed it, so
they should really Why don't all the

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bosses listen to the show. Actually
I don't know if I want that,

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but just hey, Ross has to
pull clips every week for some internal stuff

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for the show, like highlights.
Did you send that? Is that what

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you're sending? Our prediction? I
know I send this week. I sent

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Trevor the Don Junior interview to yesterday. I mean logically, which which,

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by the way, you opened the
interview talking about the outage. So yeah,

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we just assumed he called it on
like a prepaid phone card or something.

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Well, they probably have a satellite
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let's just let's just be honest.
I would really once you get into fu

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money, uh, your own communication
network. Oh you're gonna show you turn

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a phone off? Jokes on you. Yeah, your backyard looks like that

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giant satellite dish that's in all the
spy movies. Where is it down in

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Australia? You think? Yeah?
Absolutely? Oh, by the way,

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we got another space thing. Oh
let's see here all right, you ready,

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Ross, we have a we have
an asteroid. Since the satellite didn't

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fall on on all your new stuff
at your house. Maybe this how many

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animals white? Is it? Well? It's so funny you would ask.

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All right, let me read the
headline, m h an asteroid the size

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of six Indian adult peacocks? Yea? What anything to avoid the metric system?

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Why are you laughing me, Chris? Why? Why are you laughing

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at this? Doomsday? Well,
you know, probably wouldn't shut the whole

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world down. But I'm going to
tell you, if an asteroid the size

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of six adult Indian peacocks smashes into
your house, you're not going to be

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laughing today. That's going to go
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be on the lookout for that now. I will say this the the

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article, the article here, which
is from the Jerusalem Post. All right,

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even though that you know they they
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it's clear that the author is a
little tongue in cheek on this, and

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I guess I can appreciate that.
But still, if you and your colleagues

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are doing all of this. Also, how big is an indian peacock?

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Can we get ross? Will you
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I don't know how big it is
either? And is it like peacocking,

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you know, how like their feathers
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point, Yeah, is it we're
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feathers on the males. It doesn't
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It actually says, around the size
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fly within the Moon's orbit. Blah
blah blah whatever. So watch out for

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that, I guess at some point
today. But they it's they say it's

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not going to do anything. But
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you can see it. And actually
I think maybe already went by. Yeah,

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I don't even I don't know.
If we can't do bold eagles,

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how about African swallows? Can we
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African or European? What's the difference. Is there a difference between the two

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swallows? I mean, I put
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using Indian peacocks, I thought Africa
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it would that would be an easier
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You know, it doesn't gender the
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I don't know. And also,
are these real peacocks or are these peacocks

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rendered by Google Gemini image and if
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These are all things that are not
clearly not in the story, So I

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don't know. I'll attempt to do
a conversion. I'm you know what,

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I'm making fun of it, and
I think it's domb and we mock it

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on the show ever since the Giraffe
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fun segment but hurts the brain.
So yeah, to your question, it

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does matter which direction, height,
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Probably not Peaky's. I gotta think
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weigh more per square inch than a
Indian peacock. But I'm not a space

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person or a peacock expert. I
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That's what I know about peacocks,
and that if you go to Houston

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and there's some really nice neighborhoods off
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going to see somebody, there was
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and they were like, wouldn't let
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they're like, yeah, I wouldn't
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So if you have a satellite made
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right, we'll run the numbers.
We got lots more to get into coming

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up. Hang on, all right, So several organizations Southern Poverty Law Center,

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which you don't take anything you read
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It was crazy, is like,
even some marginally mainstream organizations were calling out

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all of the financial shenanigans there,
and then that story just went away.

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Anti Defamation League there's another one.
Is it Jason's Project something project, I

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can't remember the name of it.
But they all they maintain lists of a

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variety of things, whether it's hate
groups, crimes, or mass shootings,

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and they may have different definitions and
on what qualifies and the motivations around it

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as it pertains to extremism. And
so the Anti Defamation League released the the

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report on twenty twenty three, okay, and in it they attempt to determine

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through their standards what may have been
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high profile horrible stories. Right,
and the document which lists I believe it's

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seventeen they identified as meeting the requirement
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extremist motivations behind them. They decided
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mass shooting was the result of right
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not just shootings. Every mass casualty
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which they claim that seventeen qualify,
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wing extremism. There were zero instances
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Does that sit right in your head
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you think of any examples that may
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we may have encountered in twenty twenty
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quote unquote right wing extremist listing.
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of one that's in the right wing
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you're necessarily thinking of, but just
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this works. Do you remember back
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year old who went to that mall
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was police ended up killing him.
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his name was Mauriceio Garcia. That
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right wing extremism because they say he
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people feel might be actually a prison
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one way or the other, but
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though, that is raising some questions
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some attacks are listed as not extremist
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some of those that they claim don't
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I'm surprised they didn't include the dude
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or that suv who was also it's
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right wing extremists. But no,
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excuse me, is the Nashville Covenant
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what you know about that, would
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at least in part by ideological extremism? Would you say that that is that

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is a fair statement with the Covenant
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a fair statement before we dice which
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probably had there was some motivation that
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and so that's where that's at.
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yes, it was extremism of from
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obviously right, obviously, Well,
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well, maybe maybe you could give
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to the A d L if you
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we did see right, remember was
it Crowder? Who? I guess somebody

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somebody in law enforcement gave it to
Stephen Crowder. He put it out,

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I said five three pages. I
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from what we saw there, because
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officially. They say that because in
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a social media post, the shooter
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cigarettes, right, the one that
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word that that is. It doesn't
that would not be so we're not looking

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at it. So We're not looking
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in the minute, just the one
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well there has to be something.
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say used it multiple times, Russ. I mean it's it's it's right there.

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That's an obvious Trump voter, unquestionably. Now, how do they classify

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it? Basically that the motivation was
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within the school who were quote doing
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and and then took that personal animus
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they wrote a manifesto for, which
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as the British word for cigarettes is
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plus people, which muddies the water
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extremism as a motivating factor. You
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use words I don't want to say
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I you know that black people will
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right or even I'm thinking about eminem
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yeah, not the N word,
the other word. Yeah, but I

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wouldn't I wouldn't say eminem is is
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mean a big lib No, no, that wouldn't wouldn't fit. But like,

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also, you ever see women who
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night out or whatever, you ever
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in the same way guy, dude, Yeah, they're all sluts, right

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yeah, or or the B word
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affectionate manner or or and I'm not
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but they don't. They don't necessarily
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of and then insert whatever the derogatory
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women get jealous of women, but
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I when I show up, like
if football, if there's you know,

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if I'm gonna go join the you
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sometimes go watch with, and like
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honestly think they're degenerates, but I
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a certain element of generousy to spending
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on it. But that's not my
true opinion. So how that plugs in

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here, I don't know, but
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where you want to look at the
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just doesn't fit the mold. Yeah, fifteen of the seventeen identified as we're

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quote unquote white supremacists, and then
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right extremists. So seventeen total and
zero left wing motivating stuff. So again,

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much like the Southern Poverty Law Center, anytime you hear a media outlet

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quote on the issue of hate crimes
from the ADL, knowing this should inform

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whether you trust that information. And
I think people are going to have a

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hard time if you can't even call
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sit this morning. Anyway, six
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I have some mildly not want to
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kind of stories. We'll get to
that. We'll check in on some of

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our State Department experts. There was
I think it as much fanfare, but

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there was some interesting hearings going on
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Israel and everything going on over there
with Hamas and Palestinians and the United Nations

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and you name it, and really
what the US government's position should be.

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That's what they were knocking out.
So lawmakers brought in experts, including folks

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from the US State Department, who
this is this is their whole world,

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understandably, so right, this is
their whole world, this little slice of

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the Middle East, which is rot
with tensions every day that I've been alive

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and most of you have been alive. And so they're going to have the

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deep understanding necessary to provide advisory opinions
to members of Congress, so hopefully they

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can make the best decision. And
it's a doozy, so do stick around

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for that again eight eight eight nine
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just a few And what I want
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make this easier to digest and not
smack your head against the wall at least

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at the beginning. Why don't you
pretend you're in like a really bad SNL

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skit, but at least one that's
tending to come from both sides. Maybe

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I don't know, because otherwise,
just figure out where your bunker is and

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head there now. Man. So
yesterday there was a hearing specific surrounding the

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US and what really State Department officials
and others would like to see should there

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be some sort of a resolution or
agreement? Okay, you know that stuff

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they should be talking about. Even
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have to understand that there still is
entanglement there. So yeah, they should

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probably have a plan. So they
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Bonnie Jenkins. Now Bonnie, Yeah, I'm gonna give you. Her actual

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job title is the US Undersecretary of
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So she is a State Department muckety
muck. And who is it Congressman mast

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I believe, Yeah, it's Brian
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of what are actually kind of boring
questions, but specifically, what are the

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government's thoughts within the State Department on
a two state solution, like what does

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that look like? Which I think
a lot of people have asked that question,

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right because if you do, and
then like there you should be concerned

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if they go to state and even
if an agreement is signed and hamas remains

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control in control there and is still
being Iranian influenced. That's not an ideal

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situation. So that's what the congressman's
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this. This muckety muck at the
State Department is Bonnie Jenkins, and let's

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go. We support a two state
solution. Okay, have you looked at

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that objectively? What do you mean? Have you looked at subjectively? Have

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you analyzed that objectively? This is
this is something that we do support.

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Yeah, that's not an answer.
Have you analyzed a second Pealstinian state objectively?

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Have you have you analyzed it objectively? I'm not sure exactly what you're

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asking. You don't know what it
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it means object Okay, so have
you done that? No? I have

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not you if if I understand your
questions, you might not be because I

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can't believe that you would answer it
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let me just start over. You're
here and just so rebundantly clear. The

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objectively, both how he means it
and how people understand it, Uh,

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simply means attempting to analyze the situation
free of bias. Okay, so you

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may want a two state solution,
right that. Maybe your stated and bias

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isn't necessarily bad. It may be
a decision you arrived at. What he's

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asking is, when arriving at that
decision, did you take a step back

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and go yes, you know,
even though that is the official position of

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the US government. Before I make
a recommendation, let me on all the

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scenarios, because and I just gave
you a shining example. What if it's

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a scenario where Hamas still controls and
I ran still controls. So yeah,

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you need to take a step back, and you may arrive at the same

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decision, but you evaluate things objectively. People need to. People do this

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in their life all the time,
or the very least they should when big

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decisions are being made. All right, So this is not off to a

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good start. Representing support for a
Palestinian state, correct, Yes? Have

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you analyzed that support objectively? Yes? But you just said no. So

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I'm trying to understand what you're saying. I thought I made it pretty simple,

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but you said no. But I'll
grant you that now you said,

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yes, you have looked at it
objectively. Okay, all right, all

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right, So that's uncomfortable, but
you know there's let's now that we're into

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it, we've moved past this small
misunderstanding. Well, some people if they're

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in public at cameras, whatever it's, it can be taxing or it could

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be distracting. It shouldn't be at
that level, but I understand. So

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I'm sorry. Would you assess would
lead that Palestinian state? Ah? This

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is my question? Very good?
All right, now we're down to specifics.

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Let's do this. You can name
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Palestinian authorities to Palestinian Islamic Jahad Fata, some other group who would lead it.

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I think that has to be something
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in a position to say, what
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In determining you have support for a
Palestinian state, I don't. I don't

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want to. I don't think that
I can answer that question. Phone number

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eight eight eight nine three four seven
eight seven four coming up one hour from

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now. One hour from now,
Pete Callander will join us, because that's

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how we do Fridays. And you
know, one of the stories I may

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have to ask about is all that
West Charlotte High School insanity. And if

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you don't know what happened, we'll
explain. And I'm gonna and I will

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try to you're ready for this ross, I'm gonna try to objectively analyze the

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story? How about that? Because
that is a service that we do around

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these parts. And I really do, I honestly mean that. I even

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when we're reactionary to stuff and you
have that immediate response because of how you

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feel about a topic, I try
to always like, all right, let

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me step back and think this thing
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same conclusion and in that very same
way when bigger, much bigger decisions than

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just some story I'm putting in my
stack are being made, Like if we

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do this utilizing the robust power that
is the United States, whether it is

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via reputation, long standing relationships,
or just due to the ungodly sum of

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money that will give an aid every
year, which is essentially a little bit

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of a bribe. In some cases, objective analysis is important, and those

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within the US State Department as it
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especially ones in turmoil, those are
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table and that's where we found ourselves. Testimony yesterday by Bonnie Jenkins, the

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US Undersecretary for State for Arms Control
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should have thoughts on what's up with
everything going on in Israel, And if

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we support a two state solution,
as is the current recommendation from the State

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Department and the official policy of the
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getting. And if what we're getting, and this is what the Congressman is

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trying to drill down on, is
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then we have to ask ourselves,
is that is that still currently the

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best recommendation? Because if you just
have Hamas and now Hamas is their own

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thing because they retain control and Iran
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think people have a hard time believing
that it's going to be kumbah Yaf from

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that moment forward. So that's the
line of questioning. That's where we last

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left our heroes. Let's get back
into this where she it's not real comfortable

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with the word objectively, who would
you assess would lead that Palestinian state?

407
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.039
Pick a group, you can name
a group, but I'm saying Hamas Palestinian

408
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:06.360
authority to Palestinian Islamic Jahad Fata,
some other group, who would lead it.

409
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.079
I think that has to be something
that's considered. I don't think I'm

410
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:13.639
in a position to say so.
Did you objectively assess would lead it?

411
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.599
In determining you have support for a
Palestinian state? And this is an important

412
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:22.800
nuance, not who do you want? That's one question. If everything played

413
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:27.559
out, who would it be?
You gotta game theory, this stuff,

414
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:32.719
you gotta know because maybe as part
of the process where you're like, all

415
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:37.679
right, we'll do it to state. However, Hamas can't be the ruling

416
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:44.639
party. That's a negotiation point,
and I think we can objectively agree that

417
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:49.920
for the most part, that you
don't want Hamas in charge, right right,

418
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:52.239
Okay, all right, continue.
I don't want to I don't think

419
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.599
that I can answer that question.
I think this has this is part of

420
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:59.880
a larger discussion. But you objectively
assess that you support a Palestinian state,

421
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:07.000
objectively assessing that who do you assess
would lead that state? What group that

422
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:12.320
does not receive military support from say
Iran, do you assess would lead that

423
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:17.000
that state? I understand your question, but I think I would have to

424
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.800
have a little I would. I
don't. I don't feel comfortable saying that

425
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:25.199
without you, what group would lead
it? Have you or have you not

426
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:29.280
assessed who would become the leader of
that policy? This is part of this

427
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:31.280
is part of a larger discussion.
But have you or have you not assessed

428
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:36.199
that it is? It is part
of It is part of a larger discussion,

429
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:42.400
which is why the decision makers for
a lot of this stuff are calling

430
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:49.079
you in the government employee, a
high high level government employee who this is

431
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:53.599
clearly in your wheelhouse. It is. This is the larger discussion, and

432
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:59.960
you're part of it. Right,
I'm not there testifying I'd solve it to

433
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:05.239
quickly and everyone looked bad. You're
there because you're the under secretary of State.

434
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:10.679
You're one of the vps at the
company, and specifically you're you're you're

435
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:16.000
in charge of you know, things
that go things that go exploding, and

436
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:21.599
uh and guns and violence and all
of the things that this this conflict is

437
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:27.559
wrought with. Right, this is
this is your bag, lady. What

438
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:31.960
are we doing here? All right? So as you can tell, this

439
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:37.639
is going nowhere. However, the
Congressman has five minutes, so we'll suffer

440
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:39.519
with I don't feel I'm sorry,
I don't feel come to you don't care,

441
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:45.079
you'll come saying if you have assessed
something. No, what I don't

442
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.559
feel comme is making a statement when
I think it's part of a larger discussion.

443
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:51.679
Don't even say who it is,
Just answer, have you assessed it?

444
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:54.000
This is great? By the way, don't even I don't you know,

445
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:58.039
and you never have to say it
out loud, but in your head

446
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.360
at any point, did you go
If we do, then maybe it'll be

447
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:05.480
be or maybe see. But you
don't even have to say which one.

448
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:10.679
Just just let me know that the
thought crossed your mind. Put his way

449
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:16.599
there. There will be an assessment
of this question within the US government.

450
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:22.960
We think you I have a position
right now to say what that is because

451
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.519
I think this is part of a
larger discussion. Honestly, it's amazing.

452
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:30.199
I think it goes back to your
original statement, which was probably the correct

453
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:34.079
one, that you have not objectively
looked at this and you got it right

454
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.679
from you. Another question part of
what the US government wants to do.

455
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:42.039
I can't you're supposed to be part
of the US in the US government but

456
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.280
I will not. I have more
time. Sorry, all right, And

457
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:51.599
then mister you know, pants up
to his chesticles as they're trying to shut

458
00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:55.800
this down because he realizes this is
awful. I think what you're not understanding

459
00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:00.880
here is what she's saying in all
fairness. Okay, all right? Oh

460
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.519
wait, are you objectively looking I
have, Yeah, I've looked at it

461
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:09.159
objectively and subjectively simultaneously. So let
me just say I think what you're missing

462
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:14.119
here is I think her point is
is that this is something the government should

463
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:16.599
handle and there needs to be a
broader conversation on the issue. So,

464
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:22.719
but this is but she she is
the government, She's the US Undersecretary of

465
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:27.559
State for Arms Control. Once again, I'm just trying to trying to throw

466
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.320
an olive branch here, like you
a hand across the aisle. Right,

467
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:34.079
So, one thing we can definitely
agree on, right, is that Palestine.

468
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.440
Uh if you see that as a
thing and Israel. Well, she's

469
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:42.360
definitely recommending the two state solution,
which would include that and Israel, which

470
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:45.320
is definitely a thing we can we
can both agree. Right, you can

471
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:49.559
concur that those are not states in
the United States of America. Are those

472
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:54.519
states? Are those are the are
the one of the no I have objectively.

473
00:40:54.559 --> 00:41:00.559
So what she's saying is somebody in
government in that department should have this

474
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:04.840
broader discussion and not her, which
they're not parts of the United States,

475
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:08.280
and she is secretary of State.
There's fifty states under secretary of State,

476
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:12.519
and she's looking at this and she's
like, this is none of my business.

477
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.039
I'll have the conversation with you.
But I I represent the fifty United

478
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:21.800
States because I work in the secretary
that you know what I mean. It's

479
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.519
under secretary of State. We can't
agree on this, correct, that would

480
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:29.440
be one state. That's not states
plural, You're just not which state is

481
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:32.280
she in charge of arms control and
international security? Right? That would be

482
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:36.679
the United States, the fifty of
them. But like what happens in gods

483
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:42.119
there, it's none of her business, but an international imply things that aren't

484
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.360
part of the United States. What
we need is to have this is part

485
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:50.119
of a deeper discussion. All right, Yes, that's the and that's what

486
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:52.440
this is. We need to do
the discussion. Right there, they're going,

487
00:41:52.440 --> 00:42:00.679
what I like if she honestly thinks
that her purview is is the United

488
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:07.239
States, because she works in the
state department in Nebraska or Utah, but

489
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:09.559
over there, I don't remember.
I'm the one who thinks. I'm the

490
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:13.920
only one who thinks. But I'm
probably right that Joe Biden did call the

491
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:19.199
Mexican President demanding the opening of the
uh of the gates. I think he

492
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:21.920
was telling the truth when he said
that, and not just confused. And

493
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:24.199
I think the Mexican President, just
to keep things on the level, was

494
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:28.480
like, oh, sure, absolutely, man, we'll get right on that.

495
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:36.559
So nothing is past that. That's
terrifying, that's not just Look,

496
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:43.440
I there's a whole lot of upper
echelon folks that we've encountered over the years,

497
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:47.280
you know, especially like with all
the FBI stuff, right what you

498
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:52.519
saw within the FBI and the smugness
of that agent, and also you know

499
00:42:52.599 --> 00:43:00.480
the the the wholesale clear leaking of
information by the number two at the and

500
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:04.599
he just gets to walk away and
get a fat TV contract like you see

501
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:09.679
it. But I I to them, I assign evil motives. I just

502
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:15.639
think this woman's dumb. And I
saw people who were mad at the congressman

503
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:23.960
because they said that after he realized
that she obviously didn't know objectively or assessment.

504
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:30.360
He then continued down that road,
and of course they assigned racism to

505
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:34.480
it because he's white and she's black. But he did it to humiliate her.

506
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:37.440
That's stupid if you're at that level
and you don't know what the these

507
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:42.480
aren't complicated, even sat words like
back in the day, this's the objectively

508
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.119
an assessment. Those are simple words
that you should know at this level.

509
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:50.599
At this point you live, I
feel, especially in your line of work.

510
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:54.639
But nope, nope, it continued
on. And then after all of

511
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:58.199
that run around, there was a
question, which I think is a very

512
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.880
valid question that's thrown that then is
just ignored. So let's get the last

513
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:05.280
one. Why do you think that
we should make a country out of a

514
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:08.679
people that just conducted a Jewish genocide
four months ago? Okay, all right,

515
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:15.159
no assessment, no objectivity in there. Why do you think that we

516
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:22.280
should we should make a country out
of the perpetrators of this this October seventh

517
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:29.079
attack? October sixth, and then
obviously the seventh is when they started the

518
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.760
pushback. Why do you think should
that be the reward? And keep in

519
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:37.320
mind, this is on the very
same day that there's a UN report out

520
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:42.199
which I can't even deep dive with
you on the radio, but the headline

521
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:46.360
reads sadistic humiliation, mutilation, and
gang rape were part of Hamasu's strategy,

522
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:55.679
So not just things that happened,
but things that were ordered or encouraged and

523
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:09.800
horrific narratives like using edged weapons to
stab hostages private areas before executing them to

524
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:20.400
inflict maximum humiliation, and then rape
as a weapon, which in a couple

525
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:27.679
anecdotal instances was so violent and so
prevalent that the victims were begging to be

526
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:37.679
executed. Right, So why should
somebody who feels that that is acceptable and

527
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:43.119
encouraged from a managerial standpoint, why
would you reward them with the country if

528
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:45.119
you haven't determined if those are going
to be the same cats in power?

529
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:52.280
That's the question. Fair, absolutely
fair question, and really I think what

530
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:58.239
he was trying to get at.
So what do you think, ma'am?

531
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:01.800
I'm not sure what you're what you're
asking. Can I have time to repeat

532
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:06.360
the question for her, mister Chips, since she doesn't understand I object,

533
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:12.679
Chairman for do you objectively object or
just object? So the question to repeat

534
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:15.599
it? Since you said you don't
understand Chairman, I continue to object,

535
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:22.280
why do you want to make a
country people that just conducted a Jewish genocide?

536
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.159
And I said it very clearly,
Please answer. I'm not going to

537
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:30.000
respond to a question about about that. I don't. I don't feel like

538
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:32.880
I would. I want to answer
your question, I really do, but

539
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:36.639
I still feel like I'm in the
position right now that I can answer those

540
00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:39.719
type of questions when I when I
this is a question that's going to be

541
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:45.079
just this is a question for the
US government, and you're the US government.

542
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:49.039
Yes, I undoubtedly we're still work. We're still thank you, mister

543
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.639
Chairman for indulging me to repeat the
question. And she's said, well,

544
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:54.400
we're still we're still working as part
of the larger discussion, which is one

545
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:59.760
thing they're having. But too again, she is in there to promote a

546
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:06.400
specific course of action, So they're
not in the maybe phase. They're in

547
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:12.119
the this is what they recommend it? What is your recommendation? And then

548
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:17.280
the follow up question, which is
it's not just a government thing, right

549
00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:22.119
I have I think you've probably run
into it. I've run into it.

550
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:29.519
Right, you are tasked with something, you're talking to whoever your supervisor is

551
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:32.880
and the supervisor may ask why you
did something or why you chose to do

552
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:38.159
it that way, and it can
be drilled down where you know there's a

553
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:40.559
problem and they're trying to get to
the bottom of it. It may be

554
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:45.400
because they just want to understand your
thinking as to how you got there.

555
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:52.639
A lot of times people are decent
communicators know that when speaking with somebody who

556
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:59.559
may have oversight over them, what
level of detail in the decision making process

557
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:01.840
to brain like, we have some
bosses who don't They don't care how we

558
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:06.400
got the answer, just sentiment.
They're busy, and you got others who

559
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:14.599
they want a little more detail.
That's fine. That's this woman's gig and

560
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:20.880
it is painful. And again,
she's not an analyst. She's not just

561
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:28.159
somebody crunching numbers where they're not asking
her to use her experience and you know,

562
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:31.679
things that she've seen and people she's
talked to and upper level meeting she's

563
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:35.599
been in. She's one of those, Hey, the buck stops here,

564
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:40.119
which is why she's sitting there.
And I don't know that I've come across

565
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:45.079
somebody in that level that is so
remarkably unqualified for their job. It's a

566
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:49.599
high bar. So congrats on that. All right, we'll be back hang

567
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:53.599
on. It's the Cacoday Radio program, Friday edition. About thirty minutes out

568
00:48:53.679 --> 00:49:00.159
from chatting with Pete Calender as we
do, and lots to get in to,

569
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:14.280
including what in the world this is
West Charlotte High School. So apparently

570
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:22.360
teachers at West Charlotte High School decided
to they decorated their doors, which is

571
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:29.599
not unusual, right, decorated doors
in a high school setting, as somebody

572
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:35.679
who was a football and the football
team anytime we had a big home game,

573
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:40.239
the cheerleaders would go and they would
decorate doors and stuff locker room and

574
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:45.480
teachers doors and all of that.
So that's not unusual, and you know,

575
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:49.119
so the teachers did it, but
they decided to make it a teachable

576
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:58.719
moment. And when photos emerged,
there were some questions and there were a

577
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:04.480
variety of different iteration, but the
theme of it was Black History Month.

578
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:12.760
So here's some of the other examples. One teacher decided to decorate their door

579
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:17.960
as the entrance to Motown, so
it looks like you're coming to Motown and

580
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:23.079
then it says under it from chains
to change. Okay, But the one

581
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:30.000
that really draw drew attention. Was
a teacher who actually has a large enough

582
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:35.480
classroom that they have two doors so
you can get in and out. And

583
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:42.239
so the idea that they went with
was one was a colored entrance and one

584
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:47.760
was a white entrance. Yep,
that's a thing, and that was the

585
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:52.920
language used. You get the paper, the construction paper over the door.

586
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:58.239
The white entrance obviously went with white
paper with black lettering the top it,

587
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:05.239
and they went with a dark brown
on the other one. And photos emerged

588
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:10.400
because you now have two separate,
yet arguably equal I guess entrances, as

589
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:16.880
they're right next to each other.
How do you think? And here's the

590
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:22.400
thing, because again I tried to
objectively analyze this, I could and hear

591
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:28.199
me out. I could understand if
you are doing a lesson on black history

592
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:31.840
that on maybe like the first day, right, the kids go home,

593
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:37.840
it's end of January, and then
I don't know which school day was first

594
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:40.079
in February, whatever, the date
is right, And then when the students

595
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:46.320
show up that Monday, rather than
it looking just normal doors, they see

596
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:52.159
those two things, and at that
point the teacher seizes the opportunity to say,

597
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:57.280
hey, let's talk about why that
says that and goes over it.

598
00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:00.800
I don't think I would have.
I don't think most parents have a problem

599
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:05.440
with that. Some would, but
I you know that is that is an

600
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:09.639
accurately teachable moment. There's more complexity, but to whatever level you want to

601
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:14.280
teach it. I just when I
say complexity, I mean in the ways

602
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:19.079
that that manifested depending on where you
grew up. But fine, go ahead

603
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:21.920
and do that. I think it's
the part where it's just been chilling like

604
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:24.519
that all month, and then eventually
somebody, some parents got to be like,

605
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:28.599
what the hell's going on, here's
the pictures my kid, and they

606
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:37.280
posted them on social media. Yeah, the district said one school leadership was

607
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:45.519
made aware of the display, it
was taken down. The teacher's daughter I

608
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:51.760
actually gave an interview to w CNC
in Charlotte and said she understood her mother's

609
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:57.519
vision was to represent segregation, and
the display is being taken down. Her

610
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:01.119
only thing was making sure the kids
knew or could see a visual of how

611
00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:06.559
things were back in the day,
which again is why I think if it

612
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:12.559
was a one off, because you
want that emotional reaction, right, that's

613
00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:16.280
that's an effective teaching tool, and
I liked I liked teachers who got out

614
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:21.400
of just here's the book, here's
the end of chapter, assessment, rinse

615
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:24.159
and repeat. Right, give me
some visuals to you know, give me

616
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:29.840
some give me some non traditional traditional
teaching methods. And as somebody who nerds

617
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:34.559
out on history anyway, I don't
know that I'd have a problem but leaving

618
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:39.559
it up all month, that's where
that's where they drew the line. The

619
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:46.480
specific the specific explanation, by the
way, is the decoration recreated a Sears

620
00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:52.079
store from the nineteen thirties and was
based on a photo. Okay, all

621
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:55.239
right, we a lot of those
exist. The purpose of the door was

622
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:59.960
to show that Sears, a department
store, was one of the first stores

623
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:06.239
that allowed blacks to shop with white
people, albeit through a separate entrance.

624
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:08.679
Which again, this is why I
pointed out, Yes, there's going to

625
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:15.880
be different variations based on different narratives, and that's when you get into the

626
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:22.199
whole separate but equal thing. Another
great teachable moment on that that I think

627
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:28.719
is readily utilized is one that here
in North Carolina we're famous for and obviously

628
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:36.519
in the triad, right woolworst Man
these are all things. These are all

629
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:42.960
actual historical things that, if this
is the subject matter you're teaching, are

630
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:47.960
wholly appropriate. But the visual aid
was a bridge too far. Now,

631
00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:57.719
I don't think it rises to the
level of mock slave auctions, which it

632
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:00.559
seems like we hear that story every
year. I don't know I've heard one

633
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:02.840
yet this year, but I'm sure
there's been one where somebody thinks that's a

634
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:10.599
good idea. But holy crap,
man, let's see, they got a

635
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:16.119
bunch of people defending the teacher here, saying I think the teacher did a

636
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:22.440
great job of recreating and illustrating what
the times were. No, I'll put

637
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:23.400
that. Look, I'll put that
in the maybe column. You can,

638
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:27.559
you can weigh in. I think
I'd have to know a little more track

639
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:34.239
record on the teacher. But that
comes down to parents being actively involved in

640
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:38.519
understanding the people who are literally shaping
their kids' minds, and sometimes, until

641
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:45.039
there's a problem, those conversations aren't
being had. But in this case they

642
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:50.400
were. Uh, And the school
says, whoops, go ahead and take

643
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:55.360
that down. Uh. Whereas this
police in Bedford are investigating a break in.

644
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:01.039
Uh, it's quite the this the
robber got here we go, all

645
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:05.679
right, So here's what the burglar, according to the police report, stole

646
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:14.360
engagement rings value of fifteen hundred dollars, gold necklace, a couple rings with

647
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:23.480
inset like ruby see jade necklace,
diamond hart necklace, some silver dollars which

648
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:28.440
are I guess there's a certain rarity
they're valued at like twenty dollars apiece,

649
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:35.559
and I think they got fifty of
them, some loose change and one hundred

650
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:40.920
trillion or excuse me, two hundred
trillion in currency that is actually listed on

651
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:46.519
the report here. Yes, In
addition to the contents of the jewelry box,

652
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:51.519
the robbers also made off with two
No, it would be more than

653
00:56:51.559 --> 00:57:00.280
two hundred trillion. What comes after
trillion? What is the word for,

654
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:02.480
you know, you know, million, billion, trillion? I fail to

655
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:09.559
remember. It would be twenty of
whatever that is, no, two of

656
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:15.159
whatever? That is. The currency
in question were twenty one hundred trillion dollars

657
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:22.440
Zimbabwe and bills, which you know, our collector's items obviously are not worth

658
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:29.639
one hundred trillion each. But they
didn't get twenty and it broke the input

659
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:35.119
system, as the police report couldn't
even handle that valuation. But you know

660
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:38.920
how government will you know how they'll
charge you, see, like drug crimes

661
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:44.159
charges this way, they're like,
oh, he had he had ten million

662
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:47.320
dollars worth of weed, and it's
like did he though? I don't know

663
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:52.159
about that? So like if they
catch this dude, right, do you

664
00:57:52.360 --> 00:58:00.800
charge him with whatever felony escalator that
goes to? I don't know. But

665
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:04.639
if somebody does, like try to
pay off a debt in Zimbabwe in one

666
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:08.079
hundred tillion dollars bills, you should
let the police know because there is a

667
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:13.159
certain rarity to them. All right, seven forty five. We've got ken

668
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:16.159
Boon today helping us round out the
rest of the week. Yep, can

669
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:20.800
boone today? How you doing,
sir? Made it to Friday? Made

670
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:22.639
it to Friday. We do have
some wet weather out there today as we

671
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:27.440
finish out the week. Cloudy skies, breezy, scattered showers, even a

672
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:30.719
rumble of thunder possible today. Temperatures
into the low part of the sixties,

673
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:35.360
low forties tonight. Is we headed
too tomorrow morning sunshine Saturday, but look

674
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:37.719
for a few showers through the late
afternoon hours. It'll be a little cooler

675
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:40.760
tomorrow. With middle new upper fifties. Sunday looks nice though, lots of

676
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:45.079
sunshine, a little cool, temperatures
in the mid fifties, and then warming

677
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:47.920
back up for early next week.
Sunshine Monday, Tuesday, mid sixties Monday,

678
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:53.320
but low seventies Tuesday and mid seventies
expected Wednesday. All right, Ken,

679
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:57.760
thank you, we'll talking an hour. Appreciate it Allriday, coming up

680
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:00.719
there was it's quadrillion. Okay,
that's what I thought. I just didn't

681
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:05.360
want to sound stupid, so does
quadrillion? All right, So somebody's rolling

682
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:08.639
around with several quadrillion dollars in their
pocket. They may have burglarized a home

683
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:15.320
maybe, or you know, maybe
they want a lottery or something. I

684
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:19.119
don't know, but that would be
the term. So thank you for that.

685
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:23.960
All right? Coming up on the
show yesterday, I was amused but

686
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:30.559
also slightly concerned. A reporter used
to be a reporter for News and Observer.

687
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:35.039
I think he is. He works
for the public radio now was it

688
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:39.360
Colin Colin Campbell? Right? Anyway? I just happen to notice he posted

689
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:45.320
something that was slightly tongue in cheek
on Twitter. Raised a question and what

690
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:49.920
I found a little depressing is I
didn't know the answer to it. Admittedly

691
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:53.599
I guess I didn't, but also
there were like elected officials who didn't know

692
00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:58.480
the answer, and I feel like
maybe they should. I'll tell you what

693
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:01.719
the question was, and I'll let
you know what our research turned up.

694
01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:07.239
Coming up next here on the KCO
Day radio program. How is this not

695
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:17.360
a Bond film? Holy cow?
This should be bigger news? And yes

696
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:22.039
it did, idiot, and it
involved let's see, cooperation by the DEA

697
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:34.320
US Drug Enforcement Administration. So federal
prosecutors unveiled yesterday. I guess wednesday that

698
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:40.480
a gentleman by the name of Taikeshi
Ebisawa, who is a Japanese national,

699
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:51.440
was apprehended. Mister Abisawa is the
head of one of the Yakuza families or

700
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:54.159
groups I guess, I don't know
technically what they're called, but one of

701
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:58.679
the Yakuza groups, and of which
there are multiple, I guess if you

702
01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:00.840
didn't know that, I don't kind
of like the mob a little, but

703
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:06.719
there's some nuances. I've watched a
couple of really fascinating documentaries on this,

704
01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:13.960
so anyway, but he's one of
the bosses, and as such, when

705
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:19.559
there's a big, big transaction.
Hey, Buck stops with you. He

706
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:28.119
was involved, and according to prosecutors, he was conspiring to sell at the

707
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:31.760
time of his apprehension, which happened
in Thailand. By the way, he

708
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:39.519
was attempting to complete a sale of
weapons grade plutonium to Iran, or that's

709
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:47.679
what he thought. Turned out it
was Iran in this case was undercover agents

710
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:52.960
from the DEEA. But you know, that's that's the stuff you see in

711
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:55.840
an action flick where you know,
Stallone's got to go stop him, or

712
01:01:55.880 --> 01:02:07.039
Schwarzenegger or somebody. Man. This
is that is you think of the yakuza

713
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:12.119
and organized crime and and all of
it, and really the fantastical representations within

714
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:16.480
Hollywood. But this dude straight up
had the materials and was gonna sell them

715
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:22.320
to Iran. Which that's always a
plot point that troubles me in movies where

716
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:25.599
you got some guy who's like selling
He's basically said it, he knows that

717
01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:30.519
a nuke's gonna go off, his
transactions good, And it's like, well,

718
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:35.000
you don't, do you know the
details arend to do it? Do

719
01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:38.280
you have like a handshake agreement?
You're like, I'm vacationing in Germany in

720
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:43.000
August. Could you not nuke if
you have a target there? I don't

721
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:47.239
know how that works, But in
this case it was a a DEA agent,

722
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:54.880
And actually there was a lot of
stuff all told. The Aakuza head

723
01:02:54.920 --> 01:03:01.719
had showed up to transfer ownership of
five thousand in AK forty seven's crap ton

724
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:12.159
of ammunition, five sixteen's twenty sixties, the gun of Rambo tracer regge just

725
01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:19.000
again, lots of lot. Here
we go. Mortars. Wow, there's

726
01:03:19.159 --> 01:03:23.920
what there's about ten thousand mortar units
ranging from sixty mil to one hundred and

727
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:36.239
twenty sniper all sorts of sniper rifles, RPGs, portable SAM units including one

728
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:42.599
hundred rockets each, and the weapons
grade plutonium. Yeah, that's straight up

729
01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:49.440
action. Flick right there. He's
now charged with all the stuff in all

730
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:52.639
the countries. Yeah, you're probably
gonna get the book thrown at you there,

731
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:55.519
buddy. So I mean, I'm
glad, But also how many of

732
01:03:55.519 --> 01:04:00.519
these transactions happen and don't happen?
You know, and don't it's not the

733
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:03.840
DEA, it's just bad guy on
bad guy. I don't know if I

734
01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:06.039
want to, I don't know if
I want to know the answer to that.

735
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:10.800
It's right going to be not paying
attention to anything here in a very

736
01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:13.400
short order. But before then,
you know, we got a head in

737
01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:18.679
the game. So to help us
do some of the things we do around

738
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:25.199
here, we're inviting Pete Calender as
we do to the conversation. And Pete,

739
01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:28.760
I've asked that you be because you
know, folks hear us but they

740
01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:31.920
don't see us. I've asked Google
Gemini to render you and you're now a

741
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:36.920
one hundred pound Asian woman. So
if you yeah, mm hmm night.

742
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:42.000
Yeah, yeah, I mean I
could have gone in it really in a

743
01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:45.719
really you know, awful direction for
me, so I'll take it. Yeah,

744
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.280
No, it looked same. You
look kind of like the uh the

745
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:57.159
representation of a Super Bowl winning quarterback. That was right, Pilgrim. Yeah,

746
01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:01.719
what were some of your favorites from
all that stupidity? Because the Vikings,

747
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:08.039
I think the Vikings. I think
the Vikings was my favorite. Because

748
01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:12.760
what about Nazis? Nazis was interesting. I did not see the Nazis.

749
01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:17.360
I saw the Russian soldier, but
it did return one kind of white guy

750
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:21.960
looking image and so that was like, okay, you know, it got

751
01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:27.400
closed. I mean it did yield
also, and you know a black soldier

752
01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:31.119
image, which is weird, like
it's a it's a Russian soldier from like

753
01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:36.519
the thirties. And I would know, you know some of the uh the

754
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:44.320
images that were generated for the musical
of some royal Canadian mounties or something,

755
01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:51.119
and that did result or produce some
results that included a white person. Uh

756
01:05:51.320 --> 01:05:55.840
so that was you know, baby
steps here people. Although I did see

757
01:05:55.840 --> 01:06:01.679
one that returned it was like one
of the only successful tests for Gemini to

758
01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:06.679
actually return a white person, and
it was, you know, please show

759
01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:12.840
me an image of Supreme Court Justice
Clarence Thomas, and that did. Actually

760
01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:16.360
that's spot on right there, yeah, right, that did return a white

761
01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:20.599
guy image. So well, hold
on, let's not sell it short.

762
01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:29.920
They also were successful with show me
an image of somebody in a giant bucket

763
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:34.840
of fried chicken, happily eating or
something, and so it rendered four images

764
01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:41.079
of white dudes with big grins on
their faces in oversized KFC buckets sitting,

765
01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:44.840
So that worked. But with the
Nazi one, this is why it's important.

766
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:51.599
Somebody said, show me Nazi officers
from the nineteen thirties, and it

767
01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:57.480
was there were no white dudes,
there were Asian there was an Asian woman,

768
01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:00.400
there was a black dude. There
was a guy who looks like he's

769
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:06.440
like poon job, there's and so
so that that apparently irritated the New York

770
01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:13.920
Times, who is now reporting on
this because that thing happened, and that's

771
01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:17.079
that's where they're ire. Uh lays
right, so had it, so had

772
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:21.320
had Gemini. And for folks who
don't know, Gemini is the Google AI

773
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:26.880
product. And so you can go
to these AI products and you can type

774
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:29.719
in things, you know, give
me an image of and you just like

775
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:32.199
fill in whatever you want an image
of it, and it will generate uh,

776
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:35.719
these sort of what would you call
him? Like it's almost like a

777
01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:40.840
cross between a painting and a photograph
kind of an image. Well, yeah,

778
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:43.679
you can really you can. You
can detail these things. You can

779
01:07:43.719 --> 01:07:46.039
be hyper specific. You can say, give me an image of Pete on

780
01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:51.599
a unicycle eating a banana while throwing
a water balloon at something. It like,

781
01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:57.480
they'll drill down on this. The
difference here was it was the lack

782
01:07:57.519 --> 01:08:03.679
of specificity that was blowing people's minds. And did you see where somebody actually

783
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:10.079
asked the AI like, how does
that keep happening? And it essentially it

784
01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:14.719
told on itself if you believe it, and it said when you go and

785
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:19.000
you ask it for something, it
literally is in the coding to insert another

786
01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:23.680
word in your search term. So
if you said, show me a picture

787
01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:28.479
of Leprecauns, it would search as
though you would type show me a picture

788
01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:33.479
of diverse leprecauns. And for leprecauns, that's fine because Leprechauns are a mythical

789
01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:41.399
creature. The problem arose with things
like super Bowl winning quarterback Popes, English

790
01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:46.720
kings of the fourteenth century, where
we have data points, so or even

791
01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:51.239
just a white male it would not
even like some of the most egregious ones

792
01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:54.960
to me are when people said,
you know, give me an image of

793
01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:58.840
a white guy, and it would
not even return that. But you can

794
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:01.199
answer black guys you get for Hispanic
eyes, You could have for every other

795
01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:05.880
race and ethnicity, but not white
people, which like, and I suspect

796
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:10.279
what what got the New York Times
still upset was that, you know,

797
01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:15.079
the Nazis, like the ultimate villains
of all world history, right, they

798
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:19.159
were white, So why can't you
show the white guys as the ultimate villains.

799
01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:23.479
I suspect that's what really got under
their skin. It is it is

800
01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:26.880
all the rest of it stuff,
right, they ignore all of the other

801
01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:29.920
stuff. And here, so here's
the here's the problem for Google AI,

802
01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:33.239
but also this larger ideological project.
And it is right, this is this

803
01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:36.880
stuff is embedded in the code for
a reason. Right. So here here's

804
01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:44.520
the problem. Is that you can
talk about search term results stuff getting ranked

805
01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:48.159
higher on the pages that Google returns
and whatever, and most people don't care.

806
01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:50.359
Right, They're going to go to
the Google machine. They're going to

807
01:09:50.399 --> 01:09:53.479
ask for something, it's going to
give them a response, and they're going

808
01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:55.640
to say, okay, that's the
response. I'm gonna look at the first

809
01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:59.760
search result and that's it. Even
if they're told Google is putting its thumb

810
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:04.000
on the scale. This this does
more like a picture's worth a thousand words.

811
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:09.800
This does way more. This now
brings it home and exposes in a

812
01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:15.199
very real sense what the problem actually
is with the code. And so it

813
01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:18.640
does what the other stories about the
algorithms could never do is that it breaks

814
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:24.720
through. Yes, honey, and
we have harped on this show over and

815
01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:32.119
over that there is in modern times
possibly one of the most important things,

816
01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:36.159
especially when you get into the keeping
of historical records and things like that,

817
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:45.159
is he who programs the algorithm,
because AI will be utilized in a thousand

818
01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:49.119
different ways every day by businesses you
come into content, even ones you don't

819
01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:55.920
are influential upon your life will be
utilized, and those tools will be utilized

820
01:10:55.960 --> 01:11:02.000
for a name, things like AI
providing better ordering systems for stores, right

821
01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:09.039
better to analyze and know what to
have on hand. And so when you

822
01:11:09.079 --> 01:11:14.560
think of the death by a thousand
cuts, whatever is the popular one that's

823
01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:17.680
adapted into it, and that control
of market share, which famously Google's done

824
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:23.680
to the ninetieth percentile. In many
elements of what they do, it will

825
01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:28.520
shape. It will shape things and
decisions and choices that you have. And

826
01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:32.199
going back to the stocking of a
store, you know, I'm sure that

827
01:11:32.199 --> 01:11:38.680
that algorithm will come up with things
that it feels are representative, are things

828
01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:43.319
that white people want and not just
because the store sells that the most.

829
01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:47.880
Where it will make a decision,
albeit an AI conscious decision that we need

830
01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:54.760
to we need to expand what people
are using so they they may stock products

831
01:11:55.199 --> 01:11:58.399
or order things that aren't in the
best interest of the store, but are

832
01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:01.039
in the best interest of diversity.
Now, you could say that that's a

833
01:12:01.079 --> 01:12:06.680
store problem, but incorporate that into
all sorts of other stuff. Trying to

834
01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:14.199
book a flight, trying to figure
out using AI to scan resumes. Right,

835
01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:19.560
all of these things will be done
and utilized and people won't see it

836
01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:23.279
in the background. So you're right, this is what they will see.

837
01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:26.920
But they'll also get the same frustration
that you and I get when we go

838
01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:30.520
Google a story that we know,
we talked about two years ago, which

839
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:34.720
somehow has just disappeared from the Google
search results and they go to another one

840
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:39.399
and boom, there's everything you need. Well, and what makes it even

841
01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:45.640
more insidious is that people will believe
that they have done the research. They

842
01:12:45.640 --> 01:12:48.800
will believe that they had all the
options available, that they knew what they

843
01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:53.439
were deciding at the time. Right, Because you see this born out with

844
01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:57.039
the search results. You know,
first off, ninety nine percent of people

845
01:12:57.199 --> 01:13:00.880
never go past the first page of
Google search results. They will click on

846
01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:05.319
stuff off usually the first second,
and then maybe the third link, and

847
01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:09.520
that's it. They will never go
to any of the other pages. Right,

848
01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:15.239
So you actually have companies will that
market their services to boost search results

849
01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:17.800
and move them higher into that list. That's why people sponsor links to be

850
01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:21.439
higher in the list. And you
have AI that decides this stuff. Okay,

851
01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:25.880
if you're buying something, you know
you're buying a broom or a mop,

852
01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:29.760
that doesn't matter so much. But
let's say you're doing research on particular

853
01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:35.439
candidates or public policy and you have
certain candidates that negative stories get pushed to

854
01:13:35.479 --> 01:13:40.399
the top, positive ones get down, get pushed down in that list or

855
01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:43.960
onto you know, page four or
five. People will never see it,

856
01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:47.520
but they will believe that they have
done their research into those candidates before they

857
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:50.359
go and vote. And if you
don't think that this can happen, it

858
01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:57.079
already has it happened a decade ago
there were researchers that actually did this and

859
01:13:57.159 --> 01:14:02.359
they showed they can manipulate the outcome
of elections in India with search engine results.

860
01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:06.000
So if you consume that that can't
happen, it already has. And

861
01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:12.800
uh, Google's position thus far as
what whoopsie, but nothing insidious, right,

862
01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:15.399
I mean, that's that's basically the
read I got off of what they

863
01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:18.800
said. Meanwhile, there you know, of course the they this guy who

864
01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:24.920
is literally in charge of this for
Google. He got five minutes into his

865
01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:30.359
tweets yesterday. And it's exactly who
you think's pulling the strings there, exactly

866
01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:36.239
who you think, right, It
always is right. Yeah, they are

867
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:41.000
who we thought they were right to
coute Rick Patina. Yeah, I couldn't

868
01:14:41.039 --> 01:14:44.279
caricature it anymore. Hey, I
got a question because I'm actually on the

869
01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:48.000
fence with this. That thing that
happened over it was at West Charlotte High

870
01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:55.000
School with the doors or do I
have that story here we go? Yeah,

871
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:59.920
West Charlotte High School where one of
the teachers there decorated their class Their

872
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:04.439
classroom has two doors to get in
it, and so they put one as

873
01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:11.720
a colored entrance and one as a
white entrance. And it wasn't a one

874
01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:15.239
off, it was. It was
up until some parents complained in the schools,

875
01:15:15.279 --> 01:15:19.239
like we had no idea, and
so they took it down on the

876
01:15:19.319 --> 01:15:24.039
fence. I'm on the fence because
this isn't holding mock slave auctions, which

877
01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:28.640
is the other doozy we generally hear. But I like history, good,

878
01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:30.960
bad or otherwise. I don't know
how you said about it, but and

879
01:15:31.039 --> 01:15:34.840
I think that if students were to
return and let's say it's the first day

880
01:15:34.840 --> 01:15:39.239
of February. They're back and they
walk up on their classroom and they see

881
01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:45.920
that it would there's gonna be an
emotional response, and also it provides a

882
01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:48.000
teachable moment. So in that essence, I don't know that I have a

883
01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:51.960
problem with it. But then if
it's up all month and it's it's turned

884
01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:57.920
into this, you know, these
these jokes on social media and everything else,

885
01:15:57.960 --> 01:16:01.279
and then finally they address it,
how do you feel about that?

886
01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:05.479
Because people get very touchy about whether
kids are being taught. I don't know

887
01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:11.439
if in all situations that's one hundred
percent inappropriate, right, I would say,

888
01:16:11.960 --> 01:16:15.279
I think I come down on this
as you do, which is day

889
01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:19.159
one. Make the point because this
is I mean that lesson will stay with

890
01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:23.359
those kids forever, right Right.
You come home or you come back to

891
01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:26.680
the classroom after you know, Christmas
break or something or a Monday morning,

892
01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:30.199
and you come in and what is
this? And that is shocking, And

893
01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:32.880
then the teacher says, here is
the here's the reason I did it.

894
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:36.920
This was the norm, just so
you understand, like this is where it

895
01:16:38.239 --> 01:16:42.039
was, you know, sixty seventy
years ago, this was the norm.

896
01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:45.319
And then then you go through and
you talk about the people who work to

897
01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:51.000
tear down that system of oppression.
And then you tear down the paper on

898
01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:55.199
the doors, right, you take
down the signs, And I think that's

899
01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:58.640
a powerful lesson. When you leave
it up for a long period of time,

900
01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:02.960
it's like, Okay, now you're
you're you're cheapening the impact. Whereas

901
01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:06.840
I think there is a valuable lesson
to be had there, but you you

902
01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:11.439
now cheapen the impact because it's become
you know, like you said, it's

903
01:17:11.479 --> 01:17:13.960
a it's a joke, and it's
up there for all this time and now

904
01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:18.439
making me wonder what are the actual
motivations you know, of the of the

905
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:23.319
teacher to do all of this.
So yeah, I think one day is

906
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:27.640
good leaving it up. Though not
so much because yeah, I think if

907
01:17:27.640 --> 01:17:30.079
you don't know your history, you
are doing to repeat it. And I

908
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:33.319
think that it's important for people to
know that this was the norm, and

909
01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:38.399
and and also if you want to
take it a step further, it's it's

910
01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:42.119
the concept of it that needs to
be taught, right because the teacher the

911
01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:45.239
example that I think the teacher used
is Sears in the nineteen thirties, and

912
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:50.239
it was based on the fact that
Sears did lean into the separate but equal

913
01:17:50.359 --> 01:17:53.880
earlier than a lot of businesses,
because a lot of business is just like

914
01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:57.920
now, you don't do business here, whereas Sars decided we'll do this,

915
01:17:58.399 --> 01:18:03.680
and it created the separate equal which
is a very important series of legal decisions

916
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:08.399
and how we got from me right, So there's a reason for it.

917
01:18:08.439 --> 01:18:13.079
But also I think it would be
intellectually honest if you would apply that to

918
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:18.520
ways that modern day applications may be
kind of deviating there, Like give you

919
01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:26.680
an example racially segregated graduation ceremonies,
right right, that would be that's a

920
01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:30.560
good thing to incorporate in that discussion. Is it appropriate now in an effort

921
01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:34.079
what critics say is to fix a
problem, to repeat this very same thing

922
01:18:34.279 --> 01:18:40.720
and discuss there's a critical thinking lesson
for these kids who may one day grow

923
01:18:40.800 --> 01:18:47.039
up to be the Undersecretary of State
for Weapons and international concerns and have to

924
01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:54.239
testify in front of Congress but not
know what objectively or assessment means. We

925
01:18:54.359 --> 01:18:58.279
had the audio just a little while
ago. I'm sure you saw that.

926
01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:03.720
Dudes I did, I mean,
did they they are not? How many

927
01:19:03.880 --> 01:19:09.640
undersecretaries are there? Not enough?
Apparently we need a couple of extra to

928
01:19:09.920 --> 01:19:12.840
I don't know what to fix whatever
was wrong with that one that we thought,

929
01:19:13.079 --> 01:19:15.720
you go, look, maybe maybe
blinking sitting in there, he's got

930
01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:19.079
his twenty undersecretaries, Like who wants
to go to the congressional hearing? And

931
01:19:19.159 --> 01:19:23.800
Bonnie raises her hand. You got
to make an excuse, like, you

932
01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:27.319
know what, Bonnie, you're way
too busy. We're gonna say this other

933
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:32.520
person, but I think I think
your skill set is best allocated to this

934
01:19:32.600 --> 01:19:36.880
other thing. Yeah, yeah,
this's not public facing. What an absolute

935
01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:43.560
train wreck. And then listening to
who is it Nadler's screaming through his highly

936
01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:49.479
his pants, uh the WestLine of
his pants. It's just it's just everything

937
01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:54.600
that's so wrong, man, just
so wrong. Yeah, it's uh yeah.

938
01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:56.840
When I was watching that, I
thought, Okay, I mean,

939
01:19:56.880 --> 01:20:00.640
I I think I kind of understand
what she was sort of getting at,

940
01:20:00.720 --> 01:20:03.520
which is like, these are decisions
that have to be made above my pay

941
01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:08.880
grade, and I'm not going to
advocate for something like maybe if I'm trying

942
01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:15.399
to down to advocate for her personal
position, I agree with her there,

943
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:18.359
it doesn't I don't care why money
once, but if you guys sat around

944
01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:23.640
or your team enough to come in
and represent that the official position should be

945
01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:28.520
a two state solution, right then
why? Right? Then? Then?

946
01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:33.239
Why? Like, let's go over
the inputs for that outcome and what were

947
01:20:33.239 --> 01:20:35.920
the inputs? And she's like,
oh, that's above my pay grade or

948
01:20:35.960 --> 01:20:39.600
that's up to the government or whatever. And he keeps saying, you're the

949
01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:44.119
government. But yeah, and like
I understand that wasn't the best response that

950
01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:46.239
you are the government. No,
but to your point, if you did

951
01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:53.079
the analysis, what's your analysis?
And I almost wonder while I was watching

952
01:20:53.119 --> 01:20:56.079
it, I don't think she knew, Like, I don't think she was

953
01:20:56.159 --> 01:21:00.960
in on that assessment. Yeah,
which is insane again, Right, they

954
01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:04.319
sent her around here to talk about
this and she doesn't have any idea what

955
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:10.640
she's talking about. But hey,
you know, probably can't be fired.

956
01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:13.039
So there's that. All right,
Pete, I got the role. Man.

957
01:21:13.079 --> 01:21:15.159
We'll leave on that depressive note.
But what's your next week? Sir?

958
01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:18.399
All right, buddy, sounds good, Thanks sir. We'll be back.

959
01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:24.680
This is which National Guard? Is
it all of them? Or no?

960
01:21:24.880 --> 01:21:30.720
Okay? So it was specifically the
Montana Army, National Guard and recruitment

961
01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:35.520
poster. And like if if you're
just glancing at it, it looks pretty

962
01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:43.039
normal, right. It's member of
the US who is a command sergeant major

963
01:21:43.399 --> 01:21:48.119
appears to be his rank. Here, yeah, and in the in the

964
01:21:48.119 --> 01:21:54.199
picture you see command sergeant major.
Look at me, Keith Debout and he

965
01:21:54.439 --> 01:21:59.119
is holding a photo. And in
the photo you see his veteran grandfather,

966
01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:04.319
Lewis. And obviously the recruitment poster
is playing on a sense of duty that

967
01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:11.279
is born out of a sense of
tradition, which totally understandable. I got

968
01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:15.880
it. And so he's standing there
holding the pictures like here I am,

969
01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:18.920
here's my grandfather. That's fine,
and above it it says it's more than

970
01:22:18.920 --> 01:22:25.199
college money, it's the spirit of
tradition. And then behind him in the

971
01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:27.880
photos, in fact, I got
to send this to Ross so he can

972
01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:30.880
tweet it out so you can see
it. Behind him, you have these

973
01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:38.560
black and white images of soldiers.
Some are famous known shots like you know,

974
01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:44.399
here's you Ajima right here is you
know, Battle of the Bulge or

975
01:22:44.439 --> 01:22:49.199
wherever the pictures emanate from. But
the problem is to the right of him.

976
01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:57.159
You see the back of some soldiers
marching, and the thing is that's

977
01:22:57.199 --> 01:23:11.199
a known photograph. What it depicts
is it depicts soldiers marching into Paris to

978
01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:15.359
seize it. Ross. Can you
look up and see who sees Paris during

979
01:23:15.399 --> 01:23:17.680
World War two? We's gonna look
that up, so gonna check out.

980
01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:23.560
Oh good lord, what what was
it? Not? The Army Nation?

981
01:23:23.720 --> 01:23:26.319
Was it? The Air National Guard? It was not? It was not

982
01:23:26.479 --> 01:23:29.600
us. It was not. Is
it who you would call? Quote the

983
01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:34.720
Allies? Oh? They do.
They have a name that also starts with

984
01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:44.279
a so oh okay, all right, that's like how it's such an apparent

985
01:23:44.359 --> 01:23:49.560
thing though, like, well it's
it's from the back. But decidedly you're

986
01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:53.520
right because their uniforms are darker.
But you have you know, you've never

987
01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:56.600
watched any documentary or any movie in
World War two ever, Like you can

988
01:23:56.640 --> 01:24:00.000
tell you that and know there are
there are few you can look at the

989
01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:02.680
uniform remulate that's not it's the uniform. Why just send it to you?

990
01:24:02.680 --> 01:24:09.399
You you give her a glance,
and I mean you do have to,

991
01:24:09.520 --> 01:24:18.399
I guess a little know what to
look for. But arguably there were people

992
01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:25.720
with military experience probably who were involved
in the designing of the poster, right,

993
01:24:29.359 --> 01:24:33.439
they you can't see the swastikas or
anything like that. But again,

994
01:24:33.640 --> 01:24:36.560
one, it's a known photo.
But two, even if it's if it's

995
01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:43.159
not something you knew was a known
photo, you would notice that it's different

996
01:24:43.279 --> 01:24:49.359
than the other uniforms in the other
pictures of the same era. So yeah,

997
01:24:49.439 --> 01:24:55.199
they're very sorry. They're gonna they'll
they'll figure it out. So I

998
01:24:55.239 --> 01:24:58.159
don't I don't know stuff like that
happens, But then I kind of do.

999
01:24:58.319 --> 01:25:01.720
I don't know. People are human. But still, you know,

1000
01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:08.079
I got to. I just want
this to my cousin because he holds he

1001
01:25:08.159 --> 01:25:15.600
holds a similar rank to this guy
or held And now all the military guys

1002
01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:18.520
are riding me make an army joke. Come on, that's not nice.

1003
01:25:19.800 --> 01:25:23.439
No, I refuse it, because
I think my cousin is one of the

1004
01:25:23.479 --> 01:25:26.640
smartest people I know, and he
held the same time. You know,

1005
01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:30.960
he held the top enlisted rank when
he retired this year from the military,

1006
01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:35.960
and his especially his it was recruiting. So he'll get a kick out of

1007
01:25:35.960 --> 01:25:40.479
this. He might even know this
dude. Actually, all right, I

1008
01:25:40.479 --> 01:25:42.960
don't know that this the guy in
the picture is one who put it together,

1009
01:25:43.039 --> 01:25:47.359
but he is the face of the
screw up here apparently, So damn

1010
01:25:47.479 --> 01:25:49.840
all right, you check it out. We'll tweet it out at Casey on

1011
01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:56.880
the radio. All right. So
yesterday I'm strolling on the twitters and they

1012
01:25:56.960 --> 01:26:02.560
come across a post from public radio
report used to work for the News and

1013
01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:09.199
Observer, I believe I remember correctly, and he this is what he wrote.

1014
01:26:09.239 --> 01:26:12.560
He says, looks like both the
governor and lieutenant governor in d C

1015
01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:15.840
today Cooper for the Governor's Association meeting. Robinson was speaking up at Seapeck.

1016
01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:20.720
So while they're out of the state, who's technically considered the acting governor?

1017
01:26:20.840 --> 01:26:26.439
Right, because this is a conversation
that just came up obviously when Cooper was

1018
01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:30.680
out I think it was out of
the country actually, and Mark Robinson did

1019
01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:34.800
a proclamation and everyone lost their minds
like he was staging a coup. But

1020
01:26:36.359 --> 01:26:40.239
that is it. You know,
that is an interesting question. How does

1021
01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:44.159
that work? Because that is how
in North Carolina if the governor's not in

1022
01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:48.479
the state, the lieutenant governors basically
acting governor. But traditionally it's not like

1023
01:26:48.520 --> 01:26:56.720
they're really doing anything unless something really
crazy happened. But if they're both gone,

1024
01:26:56.760 --> 01:26:59.680
who's gone? And so I collected
it because I'm just curious. I

1025
01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:05.560
didn't know. I And what I
found a little disconcerting is people who were

1026
01:27:05.920 --> 01:27:11.600
and most people were having kind of
fun with this, but people who literally

1027
01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:16.319
would be in the line of secession
who also didn't seem to know offhand,

1028
01:27:17.479 --> 01:27:23.680
Like if you got a number in
that lottery, you're gonna know what it

1029
01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:27.199
is, right, And I know, I understand to get a little complex

1030
01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:30.520
once you get out, once you
get away from the obvious positions. A

1031
01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:34.520
lot of times the line of secession, at both at the federal level and

1032
01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:40.319
at state level, it drops into
cabinet zone kind of or Council of State

1033
01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:45.319
as we have here. And it's
surprising, I think to some people that

1034
01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:49.720
the Secretary of Agriculture could be the
president if the right sequence of events happened.

1035
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:53.720
But like then, they they just
had a whole show on this right

1036
01:27:53.800 --> 01:27:58.399
where some low level cabinet guys the
president, and then of course they had

1037
01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:00.800
to take it in de had to
ruin it like they do everything else.

1038
01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:05.079
So I'm like, one, I
think you'all should know, especially if you're

1039
01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:10.640
in there. So I looked it
up. So yesterday afternoon I decided to

1040
01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:15.600
scour the archives to get an answer. And just so you don't think that

1041
01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:20.000
we did this flippantly and then only
did one resource while I scoured the archives,

1042
01:28:20.960 --> 01:28:26.119
Ross, you consulted the scrolls,
right, I do. I took

1043
01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:28.880
archives, you know, so I
went extra step. I did the scrolls

1044
01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:30.520
and the tablets and the tap.
You did that, both of them.

1045
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:33.319
Okay, well I'm sorry I didn't
really I thought you just did the scrolls

1046
01:28:33.640 --> 01:28:41.279
and then coupled with me scouring the
ancient archives, and it's it goes Roy

1047
01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:49.359
Cooper, Mark Robinson and then this
is crazy me and then you Ross.

1048
01:28:49.720 --> 01:28:56.279
So that's your It was that order
right there. And like I said,

1049
01:28:56.319 --> 01:29:00.239
scrolls, tablets and archives all consultant, no need to look at up.

1050
01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:03.119
I wasn't expecting this, right,
but you know, I'm a particular for

1051
01:29:03.159 --> 01:29:05.600
the rules. Rules are my passionate. I mean, yeah, this is

1052
01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:10.359
what it says. I mean,
I mean the archives are ancient for a

1053
01:29:10.439 --> 01:29:14.880
reason, right, Yeah, as
are the scrolls and the tablets, all

1054
01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:18.680
of which have been scoured in or
consulted. So so anyway, now you

1055
01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:21.359
were saying after the show, you
wanted to go meet on the top floor

1056
01:29:21.399 --> 01:29:25.600
by the new windows is up.
Yeah, we got some new winders.

1057
01:29:25.840 --> 01:29:27.840
Yeah, no, you have winds
there. You want to media, you

1058
01:29:27.840 --> 01:29:30.520
said you want me to get a
good look out of the You gotta see

1059
01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:34.840
the view, Okay, all right, especially on a rainy day leg today,

1060
01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:39.560
Yeah, very very slippery gray and
yeah, oh you love it.

1061
01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:42.800
It's beautiful. I don't know if
I like slippery on the on the on

1062
01:29:42.840 --> 01:29:45.560
the eleventh floor, but okay,
all right, Well I'm sure that that's

1063
01:29:46.279 --> 01:29:50.680
a wholesome request, so uh but
yeah, do clarify. That's how that

1064
01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:55.079
goes. So next time those two
are out, and I'm sure, I'm

1065
01:29:55.079 --> 01:29:59.439
sure there's be an election season and
all those at some point they will be

1066
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:04.479
and so you know, I just
practice your bowing, probably do that.

1067
01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:11.760
That'd be good. And you know, get ready because we got some we

1068
01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:14.880
got some thoughts, all right,
eight forty five, let's get some weather

1069
01:30:14.960 --> 01:30:17.880
thoughts with Ken Boone. And he's
thinking wet weather because why not. It's

1070
01:30:17.880 --> 01:30:21.560
the weekend. That's where well it's
not a total wash out. The second

1071
01:30:21.560 --> 01:30:24.920
half of the weekend is going to
be really nice. As we look towards

1072
01:30:24.920 --> 01:30:27.840
Sunday, we do have some showers
out and about today, even a few

1073
01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:30.840
rumbles of thunder. It'll be breezy, cool, high temperatures in a low

1074
01:30:30.840 --> 01:30:33.039
part of the sixties. Clouds we'll
begin to break up late this afternoon and

1075
01:30:33.079 --> 01:30:36.680
into tonight, temperatures that iight into
low forties. We'll start out with sunshine

1076
01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:41.600
Saturday, but scattered afternoon showers expected
Tomorrow. It'll be a little colder,

1077
01:30:41.640 --> 01:30:45.520
middle to upper fifties. Sunshine Sunday. To finish the weekend chilly, mid

1078
01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:48.119
fifties, and then warming up quite
a bit for next week. Mid sixties

1079
01:30:48.119 --> 01:30:51.840
Monday with sunshine. We're into the
seventies Tuesday, Wednesday. All right,

1080
01:30:51.920 --> 01:30:57.199
thank you, sir, and we'll
talk. Well. I guess he's back

1081
01:30:57.279 --> 01:31:00.239
next week. Huh he is scheduled
to be back. Yes, that's always

1082
01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:03.279
got change. Yeah, absolutely,
all right, what a life man?

1083
01:31:03.319 --> 01:31:05.880
All right? Having good week?
Ken, are you too? Yeah?

1084
01:31:05.920 --> 01:31:10.319
All right? And Joan Doneger Bloomberg
News joins us. Next, hang on,

1085
01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:14.960
Joan donnegher, what's happening? Well, it was not a cyber hack.

1086
01:31:15.079 --> 01:31:18.039
The AT and T nationwide wireless outage
yesterday, the company says, while

1087
01:31:18.079 --> 01:31:23.640
working on a network expansion, there
was what it termed an incorrect process,

1088
01:31:23.680 --> 01:31:28.560
and that of course, disrupted wireless
service for hundreds of thousands of subscribers,

1089
01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:33.520
and the FBI and Department of Homeland
Security started investigations because of it. GM

1090
01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:39.239
has always planned to put its Cruise
robotaxi unit on the road in Raleigh.

1091
01:31:39.319 --> 01:31:44.000
It was collecting data on that possibility
last fall when a Cruise self driving taxi

1092
01:31:44.359 --> 01:31:48.479
dragged a pedestrian in San Francisco and
a company lost its driving privileges in California.

1093
01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:53.399
But Cruise could hit the road again, this time in Dallas and Houston.

1094
01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:57.600
The company's focusing on its comeback plan
in Dallas or in Texas, where

1095
01:31:57.640 --> 01:32:00.239
regulations are a little looser. This
could be a tough act to follow.

1096
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:04.920
How does the concert industry top a
year in which Ticketmasters saw a forty four

1097
01:32:04.960 --> 01:32:11.000
percent jump in sales and concerts in
its concert business last year thanks Taylor Swift.

1098
01:32:11.640 --> 01:32:15.640
Ticketmaster's parent Live Nation says well,
concert ticket sales have increased so far

1099
01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:18.680
this year, it's only been by
six percent. Now, during the spring

1100
01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:24.000
and summer, it expects big sales
growth. The company says if fans want

1101
01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:28.680
the in person experience, the Hollywood
writers and actors strike may have hit home.

1102
01:32:28.760 --> 01:32:32.039
Warner Brothers Discovery saw a bigger than
expected loss last quarter because of delays

1103
01:32:32.039 --> 01:32:35.119
in the release of new shows and
movies, even though the strike said it

1104
01:32:35.199 --> 01:32:42.239
months ago. Post production takes a
long time and time to queue. Homer

1105
01:32:42.359 --> 01:32:48.000
Simpson go, Yeah, who doesn't
love them? And thieves certainly do.

1106
01:32:48.079 --> 01:32:54.079
They stole a van delivering ten thousand
Crispy kremes last year in Australia. But

1107
01:32:54.199 --> 01:32:59.640
donuts aren't the only prizes. Years
of rising prices for food case have made

1108
01:32:59.720 --> 01:33:03.600
every everyday items, including donuts,
a big target for criminals. The British

1109
01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:09.119
Standards Institution says thefts of foods and
beverages make up more than a fifth of

1110
01:33:09.119 --> 01:33:13.199
all theft incidents around the world last
year. What do you do with ten

1111
01:33:13.239 --> 01:33:17.640
thousand Crispy creams? Like, because
it's not you gotta flip there's a time

1112
01:33:17.720 --> 01:33:21.159
frame in which you got to flip
them, even if you ate to as

1113
01:33:21.239 --> 01:33:26.920
many as you could stomach, Like
very wasteful, very sad and very well

1114
01:33:27.079 --> 01:33:30.479
yeah, well they probably found that
out. Yeah, all right, Well,

1115
01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:33.520
thank you so much, have a
good weekend. Thanks for hanging out

1116
01:33:33.520 --> 01:33:38.720
this week. Jeff will be back
next week. Well we'll hear about his

1117
01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:41.960
world travels, no doubt, so
we'll talk to them. Thanks, Joan,

1118
01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:45.720
appreciate it. Joe Donnager there from
Bloomberg News. Ross. Do you

1119
01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:49.199
ever do any fishing? I can't
remember if I've ever we've ever talked about

1120
01:33:49.199 --> 01:33:55.159
fishing. Yeah, it once,
wow with my grandfather, remember it his

1121
01:33:55.279 --> 01:33:59.359
nick? Oh that's never mind,
We did talk about that. Well,

1122
01:33:59.359 --> 01:34:02.840
you know what that's you know,
there's a learning curve in your kid learning

1123
01:34:02.880 --> 01:34:05.359
how to fish. And I talked
because I hooked my dad. Yeah,

1124
01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:08.520
like how come the hook is it
going into the pond? What was this

1125
01:34:08.560 --> 01:34:11.079
stuck on? Oh my god,
it's stuck in my grandfather's neck and it's

1126
01:34:11.079 --> 01:34:15.239
bleeding like a spicket. Well and
he's like, oh fine, you might

1127
01:34:15.279 --> 01:34:24.239
be able to identify authorities in Georgia, say a fisherman was, you know,

1128
01:34:24.399 --> 01:34:30.319
fishing as you do when he hooked
something. And for any of you

1129
01:34:30.359 --> 01:34:34.439
who fish, like a media,
almost immediately you know, if you hook

1130
01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:39.199
something that's not a fish, it's
not a fish, and so you know,

1131
01:34:39.399 --> 01:34:41.800
maybe give it a pool, maybe
a log comes up, or you

1132
01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:46.760
know the old classic tire in the
cartoons. It was none of those things.

1133
01:34:46.840 --> 01:34:53.000
According to authorities, the fisherman able
to bring up out of the water

1134
01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:58.279
what it had hooked, and it
was a dude, specifically a dude's body,

1135
01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:02.600
which was not apparently what he was
after. And it was on a

1136
01:35:02.640 --> 01:35:06.720
fly rod too, which there's a
little extra skill set there. So I

1137
01:35:06.720 --> 01:35:10.039
wondered if he was sinking like a
wooly bugger or something. No, no,

1138
01:35:10.159 --> 01:35:15.960
but anyway, Uh yeah, one
doesn't look like you get to keep

1139
01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:21.720
him two probably not in the slot
limit anyway. So but you know,

1140
01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:30.319
obviously police are investigating what's up with
that? And where was this ross?

1141
01:35:30.319 --> 01:35:33.199
She used to live in Georgia?
Right where was oh, this is in

1142
01:35:33.720 --> 01:35:40.720
this on the chattahoo is on the
Chattahoochie River in Columbus, Georgia. Has

1143
01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:45.439
anyone asked Alan Jackson about this?
I mean, I know he says he

1144
01:35:45.560 --> 01:35:48.439
was just hanging out by the river
and it was pale moonlight that night,

1145
01:35:48.520 --> 01:35:55.680
but also limited moonlight. Seems like
that's when I would want to hide a

1146
01:35:55.680 --> 01:36:02.479
body or sink one in the Chattahoochie
River. Probably Muscogee cant I don't I'm

1147
01:36:03.359 --> 01:36:06.399
from a geographic standpoint, I don't
really know anything about the area. But

1148
01:36:08.359 --> 01:36:15.199
they do believe this is the speculation
that the the trophy may have been the

1149
01:36:15.239 --> 01:36:21.279
remains of somebody who jumped in the
river off of a bridge obviously committed suicide

1150
01:36:21.319 --> 01:36:27.279
there, or they say it could
be an accidental drowning. I feel like

1151
01:36:27.319 --> 01:36:32.840
you should have more leads than that. But AnyWho, that's horrible right there,

1152
01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:39.319
But I guess also useful if it's
for the family of whomever this is

1153
01:36:39.359 --> 01:36:43.600
when they were able to identify them. All right. On that note,

1154
01:36:43.640 --> 01:36:46.600
I did see we tweeted out the
recruiting poster, or go take a gander

1155
01:36:46.600 --> 01:36:53.319
at that on the Twitter. See
if you would immediately know those are Nazi

1156
01:36:53.439 --> 01:36:56.840
soldiers, I guess if you didn't
know the backstory in the background. But

1157
01:36:58.279 --> 01:37:01.119
I guess I'm real curious if you
want to comment on it. It's at

1158
01:37:01.199 --> 01:37:06.520
Casey on the radio. I did. I think if you're a military individual,

1159
01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:13.720
that almost should be instantaneously recognizable,
But again, I don't know.