WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:07.879 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez Sound Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:14.599 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kat z 3 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:19.480 R two sad at iHeartRadio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome 4 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:22.960 to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. 5 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:26.239 He's Jacob's ass. He's Adam. I hope your name is Adam, 6 00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:28.399 because that's what I call you. That's what we call you. Right. 7 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:34.399 My voice is bad. It is Steve like it's something about ten o'clock. 8 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:38.119 But I think my houries started kicking. I have no idea why, but 9 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:41.560 it just feels weird. Sounds weird now that I hear it. Hey, 10 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.640 but welcome to Friday, our final day of the week. We did a 11 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:48.759 whole week for the first of like five weeks because we were in Vegas and 12 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:52.520 that was gone in a while. So we we well, we're not done 13 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:55.240 yet, right, so something can happen, but we have two hours here. 14 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:58.200 I hope you guys get involved by calling five two oh four, one, 15 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:02.079 six seventy four forty uh. I people have a nice, eclectic type 16 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:06.760 of show. We've been trying to get Damien Alameda and saw him yesterday at 17 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:08.640 the ribbon cutting, So I said, can you do it now? And 18 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:11.280 he gave me the nod. I'm thinking, okay, great, better not 19 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:15.200 change your mind. Yeah exactly, so him. And then we got another 20 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:18.079 guy, yep, Rickleer Rose, the former golf coach, really kind of 21 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:21.680 the guy who built the program to you know, to what it is today. 22 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:26.159 He coached both men's and women's teams to national championships. They gushed all 23 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:27.760 over him yesterday. Yeah. Well, you know, he's you know, 24 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:32.120 he's the guy that kind of built it and uh, you know a lot 25 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:34.719 and the hill he won't admit it, and he'll tell us all god, 26 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:37.040 you know, you know, don't you know, don't put that on me. 27 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:38.599 But you know, when you think about what they've got over there, 28 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:44.319 the facility they're at Tucson Country Club, it started because that's there, because 29 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:46.680 in the end, because of what he built up. Oh, he talked 30 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:48.879 about that, and that's that he put you know, he just gave the 31 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:52.439 timeline. So we'll get a shorter timeline from him today. Uh. The 32 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:55.159 one thing I was going to ask you, because uh, you know, 33 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:57.359 I've been here since eighty seven. You've been here along along all your life. 34 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:02.040 And they were talking about all the accomplishments, and I'm thinking, Okay, 35 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:07.879 we know some round Rushmore guys, right, Blue Kendrea, Ke Kendall, 36 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:15.759 Yep, he accomplished someone what those guys did in his sport. Yeah, 37 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:17.199 And I'm thinking, well, well, he's got to be thought of. 38 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:21.800 What about Frank Bush, Yeah, Frank Bush another guy. There's a 39 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:25.919 lot of dudes on the Yeah, Arizona's Mount Rushmore can't have only four heads 40 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:29.919 right when they were mentioned in him. Of all the things he's done with 41 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:34.360 the national championships men and women, the only guy to coach men and women 42 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:38.080 title ever in all of its double A, I'm thinking that's kind of that's 43 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:42.719 kind of big big deal, is a big deal, and he's not talked 44 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:46.919 about enough when it comes to that. You know why, you think because 45 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:52.240 it's golf, okay, right, it's not baseball, it's not basketball kind 46 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:57.039 of football like Frank Bush and and Kendrea. Even though it's softball. You 47 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:01.199 can't avoid what he's done exactly, you know, you know, I mean 48 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:07.879 you talk about Candrea because he won how many seven eight eight championship that's why 49 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:09.879 he's you know, he's up there. But on top of that, softball 50 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:14.199 has become a television sport, so you know, it's got more it's got 51 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:17.319 more of that visibility as well. But you know, you know, Rick 52 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:22.759 Lerosse while he was here, he was you know, well, let me 53 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:28.919 quiz you real quick. What else did he coach at Ubebe. There's not 54 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:32.080 a trick question. It is a trick question. I didn't know this either, 55 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:37.479 because he said he started as like as a water polo guy and some 56 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:39.319 other tennis maybe I think it was. And then they said, hey, 57 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:43.280 you want to coach golf and he said, okay, so three jobs. 58 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:45.800 I could be wrong in the sports, but he had three when he first 59 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:47.800 started back in the mid seventieses crazy. I had no idea. Yeah, 60 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:51.879 so we'll clarify with him. But he said that to begin, you know, 61 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:53.560 a bit you guys didn't know, blah blah blah. I think I 62 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:57.719 didn't know. Well, well, I'm looking at his at his bio from 63 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:00.639 the from the U of a. H Hall of Fame. You have a 64 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:05.439 Hall of Fame website, and he in college, he was a college swimmer. 65 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:12.800 He competed in swimming golf and cross country, so Rockport to date. 66 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:15.719 Yeah, I have a fun story from one of my friends who will talk 67 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:17.680 about him, and I'll mention to him because we all know that he was 68 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:20.639 a heck of a competitor too. So okay, we'll move on from that. 69 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:24.399 But we have some great guests today on a Friday, This should be 70 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:27.720 fine. Just stay out of the heat if you can. It is hot, 71 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:30.120 you know, see, I have to you know, I let John 72 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:34.439 Wilner, you know, uh convince you no, no, no, I 73 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:39.600 let him give you a crap about going to buffets and stuff yesterday. Well, 74 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:43.040 I gotta admit I've been to the I've been to a buffet twice twice 75 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:47.399 the last two days. I went to We beat the bullet and went to 76 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:51.959 Sweet Tomatoes yesterday or lunch, and then did it again today to both put 77 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:58.240 tomatoes again twice, mister Gonzales to welcome back. I'm gonna bar back. 78 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:00.879 I can barth right now. You're gonna be like norm at at Tamato Sweet 79 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:06.120 Tomatoes. Well, it's funny because you know there's a line, right, 80 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:10.160 so they let you in, you know, little by little, and the 81 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:13.040 late and the lady who was letting you leading us, and she goes, 82 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:17.079 weren't you here yesterday? I said, yeah, yeah, I was. 83 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:21.439 I was so but I you know, I went easy today. I didn't 84 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:26.199 have the chocolate chip cookie. This is this is not the Vegas buffet where 85 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:28.079 you have to eat up what you lose. No, no, no, 86 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:30.480 no, no, this was I They lost money on me the last few 87 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:33.920 days. They really did. Uh. So I've been you know, I 88 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:38.439 got to stop. I can't eat the rest of the day. So does 89 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:41.560 your wife, the nutritionist or your boss know that you're doing that? Yeah? 90 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:44.000 Well she went with us yesterday, but we've been dying to go because 91 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.800 we've been taking our kids since they were little there. So she went yesterday, 92 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:49.560 but she she she's off out of town on a business trip. And 93 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:54.759 my daughters and I went back today, so we're we're all here. So 94 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.439 it's kind of fun. Hey. By the way, I can't find my 95 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.279 keys, the ones I gave you yesterday or two days ago to get into 96 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:02.519 how to get in here again? Back there? I know you did, 97 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:04.319 and I don't know what I did with them. I don't know. So 98 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:08.639 I was hoping they were here and they're not here. But are those are 99 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:12.160 those keys. That's something important. But you had a car key on larkey 100 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:14.959 house key blah blah blah. Y. I know what to tell you. 101 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:18.160 My interns are partly living. You know. I'm bad with that. You 102 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:20.319 know, I know it's not at him because he's here. Yeah, yeah, 103 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:24.560 you just got here. What's up at him? I'm good, You're 104 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:28.759 good. Another dude who only has a short timer. Man, you're ready 105 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:32.439 to get the heck out of here? Almost almost. You have senior itis? 106 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:35.279 Yet? Are you still going to class and stuff? I'm still gone. 107 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:41.680 I'm trying to finish strong. Sure your professions are listening so you can. 108 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:47.720 I'm gone, I'm going. How did you do that? Were you? 109 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:50.639 How long did it take you to graduate? Took five years and you 110 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:55.279 would have been able to take ten. I was at the Were you having 111 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:57.560 trouble at the end of No, no, no, it was I took 112 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:00.399 like three classes my final dismester. I was pretty much five years. I 113 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:03.040 was paid for, so I didn't care. You know, that was scared 114 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:06.040 of my dad that if I didn't get out in four years, because to 115 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:10.040 him, you got four years and that's it. You got four years and 116 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:12.800 I was living at home. Yeah, and uh, and he said you 117 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:16.360 got us said you got four years yesterday with and I scrambled and I took. 118 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:20.319 I took like forty units my last two semester. Wow, you know, 119 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:24.639 twenty each, Wow, to be able to graduate. And I didn't 120 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:29.800 know I had graduated until after I walked because I used to walk for graduating. 121 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:31.879 I had a class that I didn't know if I had passed well. 122 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:38.360 And then I got I nailed the final, and I graduated. And I 123 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:42.279 had already devised my plan of how I was going to take a summer school 124 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:47.199 class without my parents knowing, you know, to get out, Okay. 125 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:50.560 So that's why I was just like, you know, you like, you're 126 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:54.680 you're clear, You're good, You're gonna You're gonna graduate. I'm all good, 127 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:58.199 no doubt. A four years five? No five, I did five. 128 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.959 You went somewhere transferred, You came in from somewhere. Hell Like, 129 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:03.279 I'm like Luke Walton says, if I could live here the rest of my 130 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:07.480 life, I'd I'd still be going to school. Yeah, what a life? 131 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:09.720 What a life? Come on in the real world sucks. No. 132 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:13.639 I wanted to do work. I wanted to make dude, I was living 133 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:15.920 at home. I had to get the hell out of there. Okay, 134 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:20.959 said, how's he going? Now? You wish you were back in school? 135 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:22.959 Well now, yeah, I mean school was easy compared to what we've 136 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.120 been doing. Man, and it shows, it shows on us. But 137 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:30.879 you know, I wanted to get out of there. And today there's a 138 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:33.080 lot of stuff going on in the rules. Well let's the college stuff is 139 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:35.600 going to be a little different. Yeah, well let's talk let's talk about 140 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.960 a s u Okay, because I don't you know, there's plenty of breaking 141 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.200 news, but this is this was big to get up today. You know, 142 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:46.039 get on social media and the first thing you see that ASU football has 143 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:50.320 been put on four years probation. That's a lot. But what does that 144 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:54.080 mean because they've already self imposed that one year. Yeah, well it means 145 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:56.559 though that for four years they've got to toe the line. I mean, 146 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:00.960 if they get caught again, you know, somebody gets caught doing something again, 147 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:05.279 you know, penalties can get worse and worse. I mean, nobody's 148 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:07.200 going to get the death penalty ever. Again, that's not going to happen. 149 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.799 But you know, you start, you know, cutting into scholarships and 150 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:18.840 you start cutting into right right, but uh, you know, in terms 151 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:24.159 of you know, since since all the you know, all the perpetrators I 152 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:26.279 guess less lack of a better word, are gone, right, that penalty 153 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:30.039 is over with. You know, one's a head coach in the NFL, 154 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:35.080 one's a commentator for ESPN, and you know the other guys. But and 155 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.120 they've already got their bowl. You know, they they did their their you 156 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:41.240 know, very smartly did their bull band in a year where they weren't going 157 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.679 to a bowl game. But the probation piece of it, though, means 158 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:48.519 that for four years you got to toe the line because and who knows what 159 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:54.440 sanctions you can put on teams later. But more Steve, I think it's 160 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:58.639 a it's an image thing. And and here's where the image thing sticks out. 161 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:03.440 You know who's what program is the poster child for n C double A 162 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:07.399 violations when it comes to football. God, you tell me SMU, Well, 163 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:09.679 then the only school that got the death penalty, right right, But 164 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:13.600 let me tell you something. Adam probably doesn't even know that because that's our 165 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:16.320 time, right, Well, it's coming back because those of us who do 166 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:18.799 know that, you know, there's a there's a there's a stat out there 167 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:26.720 that a s U is now tied with SMU Football for for the most violations 168 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:31.840 ever. Well, so when you talk about SMU and being having gotten the 169 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:35.639 death penalty, they've killed their program. And you say, as us, 170 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:39.000 you know, the next door neighbor, that that says something about who you 171 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:41.279 are the think about it? Well, with all that, okay they have 172 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:45.639 and what do they have to show for it? Absolutely right? Right, 173 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:48.480 I was in I was in Dallas, a king from Dallas to here at 174 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:50.360 the time, right after the time all that the you know, pay for 175 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:54.000 play, the Pony Express, blah blah blah, when it all happened in 176 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:56.200 the mid eighties, and it was just coming out with the penalties. So 177 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:00.759 I'm thinking, yeah, that's a big deal. Yeah, obviously, I 178 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:05.440 mean, at least when SMU cheated, they were really good and Roger Craig 179 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:09.120 guys, uh you know. But but when you know a SU cheats and 180 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:11.639 they are off, they got worse as they were cheating. True. True. 181 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:15.120 Anyway, let me ask you something. And I know we're talking about 182 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.960 issue, we have no really good ties to it. Uh So I'm two 183 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:22.159 questions. So when they hired HERM when they hired her and I'm gonna ask 184 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:26.200 this some maybe the next time we have some Phoenix guys in there. What 185 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:28.919 did you think? Can I have another question to go along with? Well, 186 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.919 my first reaction was what are they doing? Because here's a guy you 187 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.600 tell me that who hadn't coached in forem? No, no, is it? 188 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:37.120 Give me the what are they doing? Yeah? Yeah? Like what 189 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:39.919 the hell is all this? Okay? That kind of what are they doing? 190 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:43.600 You know? Like whose idea was that? Right then? And then 191 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.519 it came out there he was buddies with Ray Anderson in the whole bed and 192 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.840 you know, and then Herm comes in. He says, we're gonna run 193 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:52.480 it like a like an NFL franchise and stuff like that. What they what 194 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:56.639 they didn't realize was that there were some college rules that they had to follow, 195 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:58.840 uh, that you don't have to follow in the NFL. That was 196 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:01.919 my thinking. Remember his first year they played, they were really good, 197 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:05.919 not really good, but they were way better than anybody expected. And they 198 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:11.159 were better than Arizona because Kevin someone was here crapping all over the all over 199 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:15.159 the lawn, so you know, and it was kind of like, god, 200 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.200 you know, maybe they know something that we didn't. So Okay, 201 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.919 so that question because he he and someone were hired at the same time, 202 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.799 right same year. Okay, so now that you and I thought we got 203 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.159 he had gotten the good, don't jump ahead of me. I'm sorry, 204 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:31.720 I was so when someone was hired, what are you thinking, I'm thinking 205 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:35.399 Arizona hit the jack. So totally different things, right, totally different things, 206 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.360 but with the same not same results, but kind of kind of the 207 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:43.360 same result. Some of them was nothing, didn't do anything, didn't care 208 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:46.759 to do anything, right, and hear and put these guys in the ditch, 209 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:48.080 a big ditch. Well yeah, I mean, you know, Kevin 210 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:52.399 was just a big steaming pile of you know what. Yeah, he just 211 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.120 didn't he just didn't care to care. He didn't care, you know. 212 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.399 And and uh, it was kind of funny because we were talking about and 213 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:01.320 this is something we can talk about down the road. But you know, 214 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:03.440 there's some changes going on in the athletic department at the OVA, and one 215 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:09.200 of those changes that you're hearing is that free tickets that you get from your 216 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:13.320 contacts aren't going to be as readily available as maybe they were in the past. 217 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:15.679 But we were talking about the fact that well, in the past. 218 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:18.919 You know, they were giving out tickets because nobody's coming to games, right, 219 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.840 and you know, you got people coming to games and so now you 220 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:24.960 know there's some more value to it. But you know, we were talking 221 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:28.639 about the fact that how terrible it got here under Kevin Sumlin and how strong 222 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.600 it took to get out of that and what they awesome. You can say 223 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:33.200 they didn't get out of until last year. I know that five and seven 224 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:37.519 year was good and stuff, but attendance wasn't great. Year before last football 225 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:41.320 they were still you know, thirty crowds and low thirties, mid thirties and 226 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:45.320 stuff like that. Realistically, Yeah, and and you know it was it 227 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:48.399 wasn't until last year that that they had some uh you know there was a 228 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.759 semblance of recovery football. Well, we'll see, we'll see if that momentum, 229 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:56.440 if you called that momentum, continues under under Brennan. But you'll have 230 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:00.960 to build that up. 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You got 312 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:03.319 to take what you can get, right, So the One Man Band is 313 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:07.240 alive and well here. Believe me when I say I'm not the only one 314 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:08.799 who does this. By the way, No, we know you guys. 315 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:11.440 Man, you guys there, you guys have to be everywhere. It's it's 316 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.400 fun. So I was saying off air, man, a lot has happened 317 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:18.759 since the last time you were on our show. Well, the last time 318 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:25.119 he ducked us and du well yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, since 319 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:27.400 the last time you didn't duck us and you didn't have a ready answer for 320 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:33.039 why you couldn't come on the show. But you know all these big stories 321 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:36.839 that that have come along. Let's just ask you. You talked about being 322 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:38.920 a one man show. How hard has that been you know, to talk 323 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.799 about you know, the conference stuff, the football program, you know, 324 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:48.240 the basketball all these things. You know, have you been managing your time 325 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:52.039 and been able to do all that? You just figure out a way, 326 00:20:52.480 --> 00:21:00.000 you know, because like people in my position are are in the position to 327 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:04.640 have to just find a balance and kind of take the shot as they come. 328 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:12.640 And so thankfully the storylines have been totally overlapped at all times. It's 329 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:15.480 when they do that it gets a little hairy. But you know, like 330 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:22.240 the Jetfish news broke and that thankfully, like you know, we were kind 331 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:25.440 of in the heart of basketball season at that point, so it wasn't too 332 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:30.279 big of a deal to shift focus and dive a little bit and so forth 333 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:33.359 and so on. It's you just kind of like pick your poisons. I 334 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:37.599 guess she was one, and go on there does the approach change to an 335 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:41.160 I asked, because Channel line's doing something different, they're not really doing the 336 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:45.200 daily, daily stuff, but they're looking for stories. Now that you're by 337 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:49.160 yourself, how are you handling it? I mean, I'm a story teller 338 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:56.160 at heart, so I put present on story. That being said, we're 339 00:21:56.200 --> 00:22:02.759 also a news organization, so personally, again, one of the reasons why 340 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:06.640 I love this job is because every day is different, Like there is no 341 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:14.680 similarity between Monday day and Wednesday because the things happened, and I enjoy kind 342 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:18.480 of like rolling with that slow because I would get very bored if it wasn't 343 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:23.599 that case, you know. So in terms of how I do want job, 344 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:27.480 it's just a matter of whatever is coming at me to day of and 345 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:32.400 that's how I'll rolled. So for example, for like yesterday, you know, 346 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:37.079 the golf the opening of the golf center was huge, and I wanted 347 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:40.599 to make thee because I haven't given a lot of coverage to two men's and 348 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:44.839 women's be able to tell that story as much as I possibly could. I 349 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:48.519 spent the entire afternoon and evening out there talking to Laura, talking to Jim 350 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.519 and mister rickla road. So I understand coming out on your show with you 351 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:57.880 to be able to tell that story right and you know, at the risk 352 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:03.599 of maybe not the Roadrunners the Coyotes, right, I see. Yeah, 353 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:07.240 Well, Steve and I have talked a lot too about you know, being 354 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:11.279 being newspaper guys right us telling the story. Man, we need a time 355 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:15.519 with an athlete or a coach or you know, you know, be able 356 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:19.799 to get with people for extended amounts of time beyond the fifteen minute press conferences 357 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:23.079 where you get maybe get one question in. You know, how how have 358 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:26.480 you gone about, you know, telling those stories with the amount of time 359 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:29.640 that you get. You know, you talk about how you want to spend 360 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:30.839 that whole time, but let say you want to do a story on a 361 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:34.200 player, how tough is it for you or how much time do you need 362 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:37.160 with them? Because I know, you know, I used to need an 363 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:41.960 half hour an hour with somebody to be able to really tell any kind of 364 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:44.079 a story, and then I'd have to go talk to a bunch of other 365 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:48.279 people. You know, how's the storytelling worked for you over the last few 366 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:52.400 years. So you're watching news cast in at least the early shows, like 367 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:56.880 you know, a five thirty box eleven show or our six o'clock thirteen news 368 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:00.599 show, and I'm not in that show. The reason I'm not in that 369 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:06.200 show is because I'm spending time with a camera and a microphone talking to somebody 370 00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:11.000 for a prolong period of time. Right, So, like it's all about 371 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:14.759 choosing what I'm willing to sacrifice, and more often than not, I'm willing 372 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:21.039 to sacrifice the airtime to go get a really good story. So so part 373 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:22.920 of that was yesterday you missed the whole thing. How did they replace you? 374 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:30.000 They just figure it away, No figure it away. So, I 375 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:34.039 mean, you know, yesterday with Alex Morello, the Coyotes's owner, going 376 00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:38.440 on the Gambo Show up North and about his decision to look the prone runners 377 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:44.759 up to up to Tempe, I'm not here to talk about that. So 378 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:48.160 they're going to give that to the news anchors to talk about and then when 379 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:51.920 I come back eventually we'll expand a little bit more on that, you know. 380 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:55.519 But I guess the thing is that when news like that break, it's 381 00:24:55.559 --> 00:25:02.079 not isolated to like everybody has news right, So in that regard, it 382 00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:07.640 doesn't really matter who tells it right right when it comes to the storytelling though, 383 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:11.279 and like the in depth stuff and digging deeper into you know, a 384 00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:15.240 wildcat sport, a wildcat athlete, a high school or the high school athlete, 385 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:19.359 then then I get a chance to do my thing and put my own 386 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:23.440 little spin. But it was like, if it's straight breaking sports news, 387 00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:27.039 it's hard sports news things like that, it doesn't necessarily like do people really 388 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:32.400 care if I'm the one telling that or if or Brooke tell it. I 389 00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:37.119 don't know. I don't know. I was gonna ask you, oh about 390 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:40.519 about the basketball. So you're out like asture, out and about and people 391 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:44.039 know who you are, and then talk what's the sense you got from or 392 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:52.440 you're getting from from people about Tommy in the basketball program? Okay, I'll 393 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:59.079 say this, Like, I know people were very disheartened to be like Umar 394 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:04.039 Chance are out. Maybe you weren't as its harden to see like Kyland were 395 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:10.599 out, but there is I find it interesting because like they they didn't have 396 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.200 the same questions and reservations for Tommy and the men as they did for say, 397 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:21.079 like Idea and the women and all the behind the scenes pseudo drama that 398 00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:26.240 was going on with the women's most of course of the season. You take 399 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.079 a look at at what Tommy is able to bring back next season, and 400 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:37.000 let's say perfect scenario, Caleb Love discovers that his draft stock isn't as high 401 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.839 as he wants and he comes back Holy cow, Like that's that's a good 402 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.519 rock going in the Big twelve plays and that gives fans the reason to be 403 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:52.240 excited. There's a lot of sentimental with regards to this past season and past 404 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:56.480 roster because of the expectations that were placed on them, and because of guys 405 00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:00.839 like Umar Balo, who is just i mean one of the one of the 406 00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:07.559 personal level, one of the most gentle giants I've ever come a from, 407 00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:15.119 just an absolute gem of being. Yeah, next season it'll be a different 408 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:21.240 look but funnier reason to be optimistic as far as I'm concerned. All right, 409 00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:22.480 So as we meant, you know, there have been so many stories 410 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:26.400 that have come along over the that, you know, just the even just 411 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.920 the last year maybe a little more that's just been nuts with you know, 412 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:34.640 realignment and all those other things which story or stories give you Maybe I don't 413 00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:37.359 know the right way to put this was hardest to cover, gave you the 414 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:42.400 biggest headache, was just most difficult to follow or whatever that just occupied so 415 00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:47.960 much of your time and your your thought process over the last years. You 416 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:51.160 know, Arizona football being good, but then the coach leaving, you know, 417 00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:55.960 the realignment stuff, whatever kind of which one was the hardest on you? 418 00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.480 I mean, hands down, it was the move to Big twelve. 419 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.920 Yeah, hand step, because I mean there's with the big twelve and the 420 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:07.880 relignment and all that was like breaking last summer, and I think I talked 421 00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.799 about this the last time I was on the show. It was also personal 422 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:18.079 for me because I'm a Pacific coupe kid and I hated every minute of it, 423 00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:26.359 like every minute of it. And so when Arizona finally announced the move 424 00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.960 to kind of put a bow on everything after there have been but at that 425 00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.960 point, like a half months worth of speculation and he said versus he said, 426 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:40.519 and playoff coff sane one thing, and you know, then we can 427 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:44.720 just finally focus on football. Even then, I was my head still hurt 428 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:49.279 because I didn't want it to be a reality that was more personal than anything. 429 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.079 And now that we're getting in that, I'm sorry. Like I'm still 430 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.839 at that point now where I still do not care about the Big twelve. 431 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:02.119 I'm sure just because of the nature of my job, eventually I will be 432 00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:07.319 forced to probably skinner rather than later. But it paid me from like my 433 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.279 heart, my heart, that the little piece of my heart died today, 434 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.880 that that all kindreds that was that was the heart. If that was one 435 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.119 of the many, I mean, I'm sure the the ad change, the 436 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:25.440 new ad coming in the president now leaving at some point all this stuff. 437 00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:30.000 It's it's been a crazy one year of news. Speaking to the President Robbins, 438 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:34.680 I mean, see if you were there yesterday, like you could hear 439 00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:41.599 like the genuine I mean Jenny Clements gets up there on the podium microphone and 440 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:48.039 makes it very plainly clear to everybody when she says and for those listening, 441 00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:52.160 Jenny Clements is one of the big big Arizona Athletics. Great husband is now 442 00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:56.359 the names for Arizona's call center. Her name is on the Arizona Wildcat Student 443 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:03.119 Learning Center. And she said away President Robin, and all of her time 444 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.680 working with the different presidents at the University of Arizona, President Robbins was the 445 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:12.720 best president is the best president she has ever worked under. And it's like 446 00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:22.160 they were making my very conscious effort to underline the fact that doctor Robin was 447 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:25.720 was that president? Uh, what's that sound interesting? I don't know what 448 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:27.960 you thought about that, seest. No, it was a very clear message, 449 00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.319 no question. And you know the funny thing about it, he was 450 00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.839 lighthearted about it because you know, some people thought maybe he wouldn't show up 451 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:38.640 because yesterday was a border Regents meeting in the morning and the afternoon, and 452 00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.880 he was there, you know, he was there, and he kind of 453 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.640 joked with me, uh the time or two about you know, above my 454 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.000 book because he hasn't written it read at all, and he says all half 455 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.279 time now you know, because he said it, he joked about it, 456 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.160 and because he knows his days are numbered and maybe sooner than the are the 457 00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:02.119 border readers going to fire him for right, So so you know you could 458 00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.559 tell even his speech was kind of that way, right, Yeah, it 459 00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:08.319 was. It was to a point self, right, what else could you 460 00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:12.640 do? Right? You have? Uh, but to kind of go down 461 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:18.519 that about so I know, David yah, good, what are you gonna 462 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:23.599 say? I was rambling, Well, when when did you When did you 463 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.319 get to Tucson? When did you start covering this this this time? So 464 00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:34.160 I want to say, July, what's been the biggest change in terms of 465 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.079 not just covering you know, like an Arizona or something like that, but 466 00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:42.759 what what's the biggest change in terms of what you're covering here? And you 467 00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:47.759 know what's important? Uh, you know those kinds of things like I guess 468 00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:49.680 I'm trying to get at you know, when you think about what the types 469 00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:52.400 of things you were covering in two thousand and six and what you're covering now. 470 00:31:53.440 --> 00:32:00.640 What what what's different? Oh, that's an interesting question because again Arizona 471 00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:07.160 at this point it's still wild Cats men's basketball. That's that's the life are 472 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.640 won A football was there too, But I will say this, Uh, 473 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:16.880 once a DA took over the basketball program, I found myself most definitely covering 474 00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:23.039 women's bast a whole heck of a lot more. I had covered it Aya 475 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:31.400 a really great religionship with but not the extent. Uh Yeah. Part of 476 00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:37.160 that is obviously the success. Part of that is Yeah, and it's been 477 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:45.599 the last watching that rock to the other women's sports, like like Laura and 478 00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:52.480 I have a great relationship covering with golf in their spreading the love. I 479 00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.200 think it's been the biggest change. For the first few years it was just 480 00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:59.640 men's basketball, wildcatch football and then everything else beneath it. And that's not 481 00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:05.759 the case anymore. Yeah, because that's I mean to be like it should 482 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.160 have been that way Day won it just right, It just wasn't. That's 483 00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:12.920 a good point. That's a really good point. So we talk about this 484 00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.160 all the time. Kind of based uh, going on the radar or whatever. 485 00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:21.799 You're one of those guys that's not out there purposely, not out there 486 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:24.519 on Facebook or Twitter or you know what I'm saying, you're you know, 487 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:28.680 showing pictures or you know, we know what you look like. You don't 488 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:32.240 have to have a selfie every other day. You know who you're talking about 489 00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:38.480 exactly what I'm saying. There must be a purpose for that. The purpose 490 00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:45.559 is I just don't. Really Maybe that's the wrong way to look at it. 491 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.039 I mean, I get it. I was actually having a conversation about 492 00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:52.400 social media to day. I have started doing a little bit more of the 493 00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:57.319 like Facebook reels, but only because I find them interesting and find they're short 494 00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:00.279 to put together. But as far as when it comes to like me, 495 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:07.559 I just don't. I don't. One for privacy purposes and two because that's 496 00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:12.159 like a vacuum might choose not to enter. No, that's good for you, 497 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.199 and that's kind of where I was going with that. You knew where 498 00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:16.280 it's going with it. Good for you. I mean, I'm just just 499 00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:21.119 not that guy. Like uh, I just I don't. Again, I 500 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.559 follow it because I have to, it's my job and a lot of the 501 00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:27.280 news. The breaks on social media is something that I can pick up on 502 00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.599 it and you know, follow up on and delve into. But as far 503 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:35.239 as me contributing to it, especially when it comes to like my opinions, 504 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:40.360 it's like, dude, I pop air what I I don't care? Oh 505 00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:44.079 no, no, Like I totally get it. And I'm with you right 506 00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.000 there, because okay, you're you're one man's opinion. There's tens of men's 507 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:51.719 opinions. Who cares. Yeah, you're right, exactly right. That's why 508 00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:53.360 I don't know if that's like the old school way of looking at it. 509 00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:59.519 Uh. If that's the case, it'll be it. If I'm in the 510 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:01.880 room. Because of that, I will accept that. I know what pride. 511 00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:06.039 I just not to get involve because I've seen how these things and you 512 00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.039 guys know, you know, you follow enough people to realize that, you 513 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:13.519 know, one thing is taken out of contact here, that's great, the 514 00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:17.119 whole of the domino effect that truthfully, I don't want to have anything exactly 515 00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.239 See, you are an old soul. You're fifty five. I am going 516 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:27.679 sixty. That would make you as old as Steven. You know what, 517 00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.199 you don't want to come back you know, you don't want to be cranky. 518 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.719 Yeah, yeah, Damien, thanks for coming on and we'll tell you 519 00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:39.719 another six months when you heady talk about it now, I'm kidding. Appreciated, 520 00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:44.119 Damien. Have a great weekend, Really good guys. I went there 521 00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:45.039 for a reason because he is one of the good guys, like just you 522 00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.760 know Deep Silver is one of those guys too, just got to go about 523 00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:51.599 the business. Yeah, yeah, they do. And he's been here a 524 00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:53.440 long time, knows the community, knows all the stuff, and he's it's 525 00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:55.519 fun to talk to you about that. All right. Hey, thanks to 526 00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:59.000 Damian for being with us. All right, let's take our break. When 527 00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:00.960 we come back, we do have Rick Lorose, who was at the golf 528 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:05.480 event yesterday, when you know, legendary golf coach at Arizona, the Centerpieces. 529 00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:07.440 He'll join us in the in the in the next hour. But we'll 530 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:09.960 come back and we'll take your calls. Five two zero four, one, 531 00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:14.079 six seventy four, forty. Lots to talk about this Friday. If you're 532 00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:16.800 an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty years. 533 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:20.880 Now, take a look back at the Ludolsen era in my new book, 534 00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:22.360 Lessons from Loot. It was a labor of love through the eyes of 535 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:27.360 twenty five former players, coaches and friends to give insight to the coach and 536 00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.760 the man who led them, competed against them, and inspired them. Twenty 537 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.320 five chapters for his twenty five years as Arizona's beloved coach. Lessons from Lout 538 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.239 is an insight to how he built the program into a national powerhouse. What 539 00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:45.119 one email me at Steve dot RIVERA ninety five at gmail dot com. 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Get your tickets and sponsorships online at the Centurions dot com. 565 00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:46.400 That's du Centurions dot com. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera 566 00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:52.920 and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Subscribe now to the podcast on 567 00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.760 the iHeartRadio wapp just Surgery I on the Ball. Hey, welcome back to 568 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:00.199 One on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's 569 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.320 Jay. We have Adam with us today. We got thirteen minutes if you 570 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:07.639 guys want to call five two zero four one six seventy four forty love to 571 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.679 hear from you. Somebody sent me a note yesterday. We haven't really gone 572 00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:16.880 through the all time moments of Big Peck Pac twelve Pac twelve in our memories. 573 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:20.559 Yeah, we could just make a day of that. Yeah at the 574 00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:22.519 end, you know, maybe no, we could maybe get a couple of 575 00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:23.920 guests who could speak to that as well. But you know, look, 576 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:27.920 we still got some baseball and softball to play. Yeah, right, but 577 00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:34.920 now you know there's as we've as we've poppy before, most of mine are 578 00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:38.920 probably bad losses. Well those are your memories. And like I asked you 579 00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:42.800 a day or two ago, say what keeps you up at night? Probably 580 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:47.000 that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, well it's it's uh yeah, I 581 00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:52.519 mean that, that's just the nature of a lifelong Yeah, Arizona Arizona fan. 582 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.239 I mean, yes, there's been there's a national championship, you know, 583 00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:59.320 but let's talk about like eighty eight, right, great season ever, 584 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.599 but it didn't loss? Yeah right, Uh, you know the greatest football 585 00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:08.159 seasons in in Arizona history. There's a loss in there that broke your heart. 586 00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:12.360 Yeah, you know that. That's just the way it is. Oh 587 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.440 yeah right, no, I guess you know you know how you avoid that? 588 00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:20.400 Don't be a fann't be a fan. But that's no fun, Steve, 589 00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.960 It's perfectly fun, Adam. Yeah, you like being a fan of 590 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:27.880 a team and stuff like that. Right of course you get a passionate about 591 00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:30.119 it, right, And how does that make you feel when they didn't work 592 00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:35.800 out for you? Well, it makes it better when they win. He's 593 00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:37.920 a glass half full guy right there. That says it all, he's a 594 00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:43.760 little kid who hasn't been through enough. In fact, in fact, at 595 00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:45.800 least was sitting right there and we had to say the same question to her, 596 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:51.480 Right, she hasn't gone through enough pain to be Jay. And you 597 00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:53.880 know I've got sixty five years of pain, like I said to build out 598 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:58.000 man, I said, and you have a teather, right, I've been 599 00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:02.119 through some tough stuf. Nothing like give me the violin version of it. 600 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:06.119 Okay, the worst, Yeah, worst thing that's ever happened to you as 601 00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:12.559 a fan, A loss of season or whatever, one of the Laker losses 602 00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:19.800 in the finals, maybe the Boston that was you were too I bet he 603 00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:23.559 cried. Did you cry? I may have cried tears in your eyes at 604 00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:27.679 least? Yeah, probably, of course you were right because you were ried. 605 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.320 In fact, this is a good topic to have. What's been as 606 00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:32.840 a sports fan? You crazy people out there? What has been your worst 607 00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:37.360 year, worst moment as opposed to have been your best? Yeah, we 608 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.920 will go through the best, lad what's been the worst? Because what hasn't 609 00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.840 been my worst? I got I can. I've got this. And it 610 00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:50.320 wasn't even an Arizona game. It was U C. L A losening to 611 00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:53.920 Miami in ninety eight. That cost Arizona the Rose Bowl. That was it, 612 00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:58.440 That was the one Arizona was going to. Oh I can't. Can 613 00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:02.079 you remember seeing the game because they had to move some sticks. The game 614 00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:06.639 was originally scheduled earlier in the year and they canceled it because there was a 615 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:10.639 hurricane coming in They didn't materialize. Yeah, I mean the hurricane happened, 616 00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:15.320 but it wouldn't have caused a game to be be postponed. So Ucla doesn't 617 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.440 play that game. They added to the end of the schedule and they go 618 00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.719 in and they lose. They blow a big lead and lose, and you 619 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:27.079 know, they would have gone they would have been undefeated, would have been 620 00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.519 in the National Championship game. That was gonna be the first BCS Championship game, 621 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.320 and Arizona as the second place team in the league, and a team 622 00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:36.960 that was dying to go to the Rose Bowl, would have gotten that Rose 623 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:42.199 bull bid that year. So that loss that day, even that the moment 624 00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:46.079 was when Ucla fumbled the ball or the fumble late in the game, Miami 625 00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:51.920 went in and got a winning score. So your worst what was your reaction? 626 00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.400 Did you cry? I didn't cry. But I think that was the 627 00:42:54.519 --> 00:43:01.039 only time in my life I really actually wanted to kill someone. I actually 628 00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:05.559 wanted to commit a murder. And it didn't matter who it was. So 629 00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:08.159 no, no, if something does happen, well, he did admit to 630 00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.800 a few years there, there would have been a dateline, because there would 631 00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.639 have been about the guy who just lost his mind after a football game and 632 00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:23.519 win he killed someone was inspect a little pudgy with a big head out there. 633 00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.079 I just couldn't. I just couldn't believe that had happened to Arizona. 634 00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:32.119 I just couldn't. But then upon for the review, you probably could because 635 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:37.280 yeah, that's part of that. But that's that's that's since Arizona the identity, 636 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:42.679 that's the identity. But that's yeah, that that's not too far from 637 00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:44.840 the truth. In terms of how I felt after that game, I just 638 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:50.760 couldn't believe that that had happened. And even even how good everybody felt after 639 00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:52.880 they went and beat Nebraska in the Holiday Ball. It was a freaking Holiday 640 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:57.760 ball and it was and it was it was It was a so so Nebraska 641 00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:00.280 team. It was a good game. I remember the great game. Yeah, 642 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:05.440 you know, but but you know, we were heartbroken, and you 643 00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:07.639 just wondered we and we really thought, I mean, I know, I 644 00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:12.639 really thought Arizona may not ever have another team as good as that, and 645 00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:15.599 they haven't since then. So far, this last year was pretty good. 646 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:22.000 Twenty five years now, twenty six years ago. How long does that feel? 647 00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.760 Twenty six years? Well longer, and yeah, it's it's mean, 648 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:29.079 it's less than half my life. But that only means because I'm old. 649 00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:31.719 You know, the last time Arizona want a national tem I know. So 650 00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:35.480 now you're now you're thinking it's long. Yeah, it's it's been a long 651 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:37.000 time. It's been a long time, you know. And you keep picking 652 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.880 that scab, you know, you pick the scab, it scabs up, 653 00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:44.639 and then you pick it again, like once a week, you know, 654 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:49.719 you know things it'll leave a scar a scarred. I'm scarred by you bringing 655 00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.199 that up. I would have no I have two things to bring it up. 656 00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:57.159 If you guys want to call it, please do. What's your worst 657 00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.320 moment as a fan? You know? Did you cry? I know I 658 00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.639 do. I can't tell you one that I did cry, And it goes 659 00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:07.480 to, yeah, I would have been I would have been nine. Actually, 660 00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:08.599 not quite nine. Nice, I would have been eight. I cried 661 00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:13.119 when the when the Colts lost to the Jets in the Super Bowl nineteen sixty 662 00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:17.199 eight, I cried, I'm a huge Johnny United fan and Colts fan. 663 00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.280 Yep, yep, he pulled that. Well, that's that's something, you 664 00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.559 know, I guarantee. Come on, No, we've had some I mean 665 00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:29.360 we you know, we had an intern who had no idea who Tina Turner? 666 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:31.199 No, I get it. No, that was a good pool. 667 00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:34.840 It wasn't good pool. But you know you can well he's hitting on Colbert. 668 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:39.239 You know you can't know Susan Colbert. You remember that dude, who's 669 00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:43.559 that guy? It's names whatever name sixty nine he was the sixty nine wolf. 670 00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:45.280 I'm impressed by super Bowl. Yeah, it was the sixty nine. 671 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:51.320 But after the sixty eight seen Si Adam, I love you man, that 672 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:57.400 was that was a nice you know you're right because the victory Tina Turner and 673 00:45:57.639 --> 00:45:59.880 Donna Summer. That was Jason. You know you didn't know either one. 674 00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:02.840 Late ladyes Well, we gave Justin and I give Justin a grief all time 675 00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:07.400 because did you know who Christy Brinkley was? Yeah, yeah, that's right, 676 00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:13.840 that's right, you kids, Okay, all right? So yeah, 677 00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.079 yeah, give us a call with your with your your worst moment as a 678 00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:20.079 fan, maybe down the road when we're in a better mood and that it's 679 00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.320 grouchy under fresh. Yeah, we'll talk about you. We'll talk about your 680 00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:27.840 best moment. We'll talk about that's what the PAC twelve coming down with the 681 00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:31.159 pipe here personal? Yeah, yeah, I'll but uh yeah, a lot 682 00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:35.159 of well you and I've got a lot of history. Yeah, Oh you're 683 00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:38.000 okay, I spilled mine you You're worst. It was younger, obviously. 684 00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:43.719 Uh, when I cared about the Cowboys are nineteen seventy five, I think 685 00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:46.320 so. I thought they lost to Pittsburgh. That's one the cat the catcher 686 00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:51.400 Jackie Smith dropped the ball and all that stuff. That time. I might 687 00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:53.800 have to be maybe twelve eleven. Yeah, you know you're thinking, what 688 00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:58.320 the hell am I doing here? Cheering on this? Dude? That's what 689 00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:00.760 I realized, what the heck am I doing? Okay, Adam, in 690 00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:05.079 your young life, did you you said there was a what the two thousand 691 00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:07.440 and eight NBA Finals or something like that. Yeah, with the Big Three 692 00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:12.880 in Boston. They just came together and that was a bad loss. They 693 00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:16.760 beat the Lakers by forty in Game six to win the championship, So it 694 00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:22.480 was not a good feeling at all, but it's beenner sweet. In twenty 695 00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:28.760 sixteen, when the Cubs we're playing Cleveland and they blew the lead but they 696 00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:30.760 got it back. That was a great memory. It was that you had. 697 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:36.000 That had to be like the coolest thing. Yeah, So what was 698 00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.639 the what was the the ball though? What's his name? With the interference 699 00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:45.320 ball with Miami was at Miami, Florida with yeah that guy. Oh that 700 00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:47.639 was the Cubs against against Marlin. So what year was was that? I 701 00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:51.639 was three? Oh so you were you were like two? I was three. 702 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.599 Yeah, it wasn't Yeah he remember it's been I was like yesterday over 703 00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:58.880 here, man, Yeah, it was like yesterday over here. Wow, 704 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:04.719 wow, Steve, I never Yes. I mean all these things are kind 705 00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:06.760 of like that was just the other day. My kids hate when I say 706 00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:08.400 that the other day. The dad the other day can't be more than like 707 00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.599 a month back, and I'm like, I talked the other day was like 708 00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:15.400 two years ago. That's true. They hate that's true. Yeah, yeah, 709 00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:20.599 used to do Yeah, Yeah, they hate that they hate that funny. 710 00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:23.679 So now all right, right, but the comes winning the World Series, 711 00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:27.360 I mean yeah, now, even though you didn't have the one hundred 712 00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.679 year you know, it was a it was a sweet for you. Yeah, 713 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:34.360 it was a sweet moment. My dad's big Chicago guys. Yeah, 714 00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.920 for him that was probably a lot sweeter. But yeah, like all those 715 00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:40.519 people came out of the woodwork when the Red Sox won it, right, 716 00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:43.920 I mean that that was a big deal to them too, you know, 717 00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.559 the the Tom Holiba's you know, Tom was an old friend of ours, 718 00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:52.920 who Anthony, those guys who just uh, you know, bled the stuff 719 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:55.199 and then just all the you know, the eighty six game and all that 720 00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:58.480 stuff. Right. Well, for me, it was some Reds and they 721 00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.119 have a once since nineteen ninety and you know I grew up with them in 722 00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:05.519 the seventies, so you know, that was the ideal team. Yeah, 723 00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:07.760 back then your Dodgers, you know when they had oh yeah, that was 724 00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.639 such a great rivalry. Got I hated the red Yeah, I mean I 725 00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:15.119 really hated the Reds so bad. And that's when I probably didn't like the 726 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:19.239 Dodgers. And the Dodgers their farm team was an Albuquque. Yeah, yep, 727 00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:22.079 they used to come through here. So all those guys that seventies the 728 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.599 infield of lobes and all those guys all play in Hi Corbett Field. Yeah, 729 00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:29.679 were the Albuquerque Dukes, which is very cool. Fine, the good 730 00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:31.639 days, and now we're not gonna have another triple A team or whatever it 731 00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:35.039 is. You know, it was hockey. They're taking a hockey team. 732 00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.840 Man, Holy cow, that's a god, you know, I mean, 733 00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:42.920 I get it. We talked, we kicked that. We didn't need to 734 00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:45.519 kick it around her. So right. You know what the story is with 735 00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.199 that, though, is how much it'll affect the economy, not economy, 736 00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:53.159 but you know, the the it had to make some money. Yeah yeah, 737 00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:57.360 and the the you know, the arena loses a tenant, you know, 738 00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:05.920 with something like sixty some uh well probably what thirty some games, you 739 00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:08.880 know home games or thirty forty home games? Two hundred thousand people or two 740 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:12.159 hundred thousand people. I mean, that's that's the deal, you know, 741 00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.760 you know, people going downtown for you to get a dinner and do stuff. 742 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:19.039 Yeah, no, it's a big deal. We've got one call and 743 00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.440 we can squeeze. Right, Let's take this call real quick. Hi, 744 00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:27.079 you're on the air, and id the all. Hi. I know that 745 00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:30.760 you guys are lamenting the teams that we've lost, but what about bringing in 746 00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:37.320 something that's really a little different. Have you guys heard about the Savannah Bananas? 747 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:40.679 Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah. Wouldn't it be cool to have a 748 00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:46.960 Tucson Toros or you can name them whatever, the Tucson Tortoises, I don't 749 00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:55.119 care, but but they packed them in. Every stadium is sold out. 750 00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:59.719 I wanted to go to the one in Phoenix one hundred and fifty bucks in 751 00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:06.000 the outfield grass. WHOA, what was this? They were sold out? 752 00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:09.639 And their game is and then until June. I think it is well and 753 00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:14.800 you could have them tour and then come back here. I mean June, 754 00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:22.039 May, April are fabulous times, even September for baseball. That's idea outside. 755 00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:30.000 That's a good idea of Mike Favors. If they mean these are all 756 00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:36.840 professional baseball players that have gone past their prime of you know, major leagues, 757 00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.239 but are still in good shape. If you've never seen their videos, 758 00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:44.880 they are hilarious. They're just fun, and they packed them in. You've 759 00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:47.559 ever been to Savannah in the summer. It's hot as hell, humid, 760 00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:53.239 they pack them into that stadium. What's your name real quick? Kathy, 761 00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:58.480 Kathy, thanks for a great idea, because I'm with the band's alumni. 762 00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:01.559 Yes, yes, okay you Hey, great idea, Kathy, Thanks so 763 00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:07.000 much. We'll pass that on. We need something exactly we do we do? 764 00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:09.440 Thank you? Hey, that was positive. How do we slipped to 765 00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:13.320 I don't know she did? I don't know. You know, somebody, 766 00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:19.639 somebody was something nice and to take care of these nice and an original and 767 00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:25.159 thoughtful and smart. She doesn't belong. All right, let's take our break 768 00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:28.280 top of the hour. We're going to come back. It's breaking news. 769 00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:31.440 Uh, and then we'll have a Rickleros on after the break, So stick around.