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Mmm, Okay, here we go. I'm gonna try this out, Okay,

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live from San Francisco. Okay,
all right, what do you think?

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Yeah? Sure, why not?
I've been working on it. I've

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been working on that one for weeks, shopping that Yeah, man, Friday

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to go. Yeah, here in
San Francisco, we are live. Thought

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about sticking an adjective in there,
sunny San Francis mother, all right,

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yeah, foggy today, poop covered
San Francisco. That's that's accurate. That's

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always accurate. That doesn't change with
the weather. That's true. As long

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as it's truthful. That's all.
All of these things A fact based podcasts.

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That's what this is, always has
been, always will be. It's

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uh, it's July twenty six,
twenty sixteen. It is a historic day

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here on the Giant bondcast. Yes, and and historic and historic okay also

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grammatically correct and historic factual and grammatically
correct historic. It depends on how you

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cross the age, right, if
it's a silent age, if you say

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historic, then it would be and
it's gonna be a vowel sound if you're

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doing and I don't think that works. Yeah, it's but but yeah,

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I think I think it sounds fancier
if it's if it's historic, yeah,

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historic, say herb herb. Okay, I thought that you'd like added an

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age to it, so herbs herbs
yeahs other words. Yeah, herb is

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your uncle. Herb is what you
put in your herb cells ads for the

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radio station. That's correct, that's
the AM radio station. Uh, we're

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live, Yeah, yes, I
can tell. I could tell by the

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feeling in the pit of my stomach. Live on the internet. Oh man,

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No, it's fun. Yeah,
it's getting better by the moment,

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exactly any other show. We're fine. You do that every week, and

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yeah, you're live all the time. Yeah, Jeff runs that thing.

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There are cameras, There are cameras
pointed at us so often at this point,

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I live most of my life as
if we are live on the end.

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You know, that's a good policy, which is actually like a bad,

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horrible road to have gone down.
Dance like everyone is watching pretty much

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basically pretty much. Yeah, yes, we are live now. So if

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you're listening to this, uh know
that we are now broadcasting this podcast live

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for Giant Bomb Premium members over at
giant bomb dot com. But the video

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version of it will also go up
for everyone after the fact on YouTube and

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and on the side itself, we'll
we'll have links to that stuff too,

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and the audio version will exist as
it always has been. Nothing, nothing

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will change their choice. Yeah,
it's all about the choice of a new

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generation, all about providing you the
new generation shows video and here we are.

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Yeah, okay, uh yeah,
I chose pepsi. Yeah, no,

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that's that's yeah. I did too. They had that fine arm motion.

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Have you guys seen crystal pepsi out
there yet? I heard it was

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coming back, bring it back for
the summer? Is it just an Amazon

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thing? But it sounded like it
was like a two three month engagement.

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Crystal Pepsi was always was disgusting.
Oh man, it was terrible. That's

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not how I remember. I remember
it as being like someone took like a

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third of a pepsi and two thirds
of a of like a sprite or a

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seven up and then poured them together. Here so it's like this but no,

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but like the cola flavor doesn't mix
with that citru that that that kind

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of clear flavor very well. It's
like McDonald's people would ask for half coke

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half sprite all the time. That's
something that people request. Sometimes those are

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bad people. It's fine. As
someone who has mixed together some sodas in

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his day, I will tell you
those are bad people. Okay. Suicide

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from suicide, we did. We
did suicid so did we. I don't

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know if it was a regional thing. That's that's that's everywhere. Yeah.

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Yeah, I gotta go find some
crystal PEPSI I need to I need to

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remember. I need to know.
I bought but like last year, I

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bought like they put out like Mountain
Dew do Shine and these fancy like moonshiny

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looking bottles and stuff, and that
was all real sugar and all the other

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stuff. I bought one of them, uh off Amazon or something that showed

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up and I'm like, oh,
this is fancy, and I set it

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aside and now I'm pretty sure is
it's expired? Uh And I haven't touched

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it. I don't know if it
tastes good. It probably never did.

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Yeah. So when they say now
we'll see like pictures of it exactly,

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yeah, I'll be selling that.
Yeah. When they say real sugar,

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so that comes like it's cane or
it's sugar cane is where real sugar comes

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from right, Okay, So that's
a big kind of bamboo things or whatever,

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and you get sugar out of you
grind it up and it turns into

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sugar. Yeah, so artificial sugar
is that just purely chemicals? But well,

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I mean sugar like normal sweeten.
Uh, soda is sweetened with corn

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syrup. Yeah right, and that's
supposed to be bad for you, right,

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Yeah, that's why is that bad
forse? Corn's good for you?

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I like corn corns great, yeah, like syrup pancakes like syrups do it

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for you. But it's tasty though, I guess that makes sense. A

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lot of things aren't good for you. It's corns here, literally, stuff

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that comes out of like a cob
of corn. Yeah, they squeeze the

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one I don't know how, and
then whatever drips out of it is poured

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directly into the bottle. And at
what point does it get unhealthy? Though?

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I believe me from vegetable it isn't
industrial industrially produced. You can,

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okay, Like, let's back up
here. Just because it's a vegetable doesn't

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mean it's automatically good for you.
If you eat like a zillion of them,

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you will die. If you drink
it off water, you will die.

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Like it's this is yeah, like
almonds or something. Yeah, some

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poison tastes like walnuts, right,
yeah, yeah, they were like apple

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seeds or something. There's some seeds
out there with trace amounts something. Yeah,

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I saw something lately recently. There
was a package of seeds too many

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of these, you know, in
quantities and certain concentrations. Like things change

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properties, so you cannot go back
to this whole like it's a vegetable.

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So let's this is what a lot
of people like who are like trying to

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get in shape, and then then
their path leads them to just like I'm

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gonna go vegan, Like no,
like just because you're like then you're eating

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three loaves of fucking bread a day, you dumb ass, Like that doesn't

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doesn't it doesn't, Yeah, exactly, So this is exactly the same as

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that. Okay, I believe that
I just don't understand the process of how.

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I mean, we could look at
charts and all that sort of stuff

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and eventually figure it out, but
okay, that's that's I don't know either.

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If you're trying to be a healthy
drink less soda, that's easy,

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Hey, I'm on that. Yeah
you yeah, good stuff. You're given

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your bladder workout today. I see, I have not had caffeine in a

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week. I've not had an alcohol
in like over three weeks. Hang on

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last week when you said you were
off caffeine, you were telling me this

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as you were sitting there drinking or
green tea. Yeah, well I did

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a slight taper process. Okay,
yeah, yeah, like very slight.

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Like I have one day where I
had like a green So you're even that's

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pretty much done now. Yeah,
I'm not having anything at all right here,

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just water. I'll have like like
carbonated water or whatever. How's it.

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How's it treating you? It's fine? Day. I always drowsy in

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the morning. What's going on?
I get headaches or I did. For

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a couple of days I had headaches. But outside of some yawning and stuff,

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it hasn't been that bad really,
part of like the withdrawal process,

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correct, Yeah, yeah, totally
and I expected that. And take a

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couple of Ebyprofen. You're fine.
Yeah, just take Ivyprofen every single day.

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I do anyway, So yeah,
I'm fine. Yeah, it really

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has not been bad at all.
I just missed drinking it because I like

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the taste of soda a lot.
Yeah, Like when I have dinner,

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like I want to have a coke, could get caffeine free. I mean,

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I have like diet marks is caffeine
free. But I also don't want

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to like have ten diet marks a
day, which is something I totally would

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do because then I'm not having so
much water. So I'm just drinking a

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ton of water. Good, it's
good for you. Yes, sure,

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you're committed to, but I can't
kill you, that's true. Yeah,

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yeah, still drink too much.
Like the weak contest, you're committed.

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You're committed to, uh making sure
your pre diabetes just not become actual.

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Yeah yeah, and I can do
that. I just need all that guy

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is a little kick in the ass
every once in a while, and then

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I'll just like lose thirty pounds and
run a half marathon and be fine,

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Like I'm well, I lost like
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I'm like, yeah, yeah,
I'm on the right past the record cycle.

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Yeah yeah. And the taco bell
and also a new menu item and

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it's all over and I get one
of them and I'm fine, Okay,

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yeah, okay, one and done. Jeff, Hello, how's it going

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good? What's new? Oh?
Gosh, the all of California's on fire,

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which actually I guess isn't actually that
new. It seems like every every

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year literal fire, it's been it's
been a slow burn literal fire. Yeah,

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yes, okay, yeah, is
that always just someone throwing a cigarette

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out there window like some smokey the
bear striking. There's you know, a

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bunch of things. I saw some
an arsonist was caught on camera nic recently,

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like last week sometimes, so at
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intentional. Okay, yeah, I
guess there are two separate fires. So

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yeah, so I'm like in the
middle of like planning vacation to where the

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fire is. So now we are
no longer going to where the fire,

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and so a lot of a lot
of plans just had to change super like,

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which I mean obviously, like you
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homes are intend Those are the people
that are in real trouble, whereas we're

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like, I guess we're not gonna
it's getting the state park that's now closed.

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It was there was a shot on
the news of like an entire hillside

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on fire this morning. It was
like a helicopter shot and all of a

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sudden there was just a giant explosion
on the side. Like yeah, Star

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hotels cheaper they're on fire. Yeah, that might be good for a vacation,

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that's true. That's a good point. Yeah, just bring like an

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air quality filter. Yeah, just
because everything's burning to the ground doesn't mean

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that the economy has to fall.
Beautiful sunsets there we go. Yeah,

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yeah, they found they found one
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there far. So it sounds like
cents California to me. It's getting rough.

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Yeah, uh yeah, yeah,
that's uh that is crazy. But

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uh yeah. So I've been kind
of monitoring the situation, monitoring the situation,

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making some changes to some like Okay, well if we're not gonna go

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there, where we're gonna go,
So we're going somewhere else. Just go

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to like moderate or something. There's
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it's Monterey County is where all this
stuff is. That actually, so yeah,

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I got all that water we were
going to, big sir. Somebody

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didn't open up the aquarium and let
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the fire out. Yeah, yesterday
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like yesterday in the morning, called
and they were like, it's only

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a couple of spots in the park
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come. And then like everything looked
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I looked at a map and like
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between the road we would have to
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be was less than like a third
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was like, okay, that's that
seems like a little too close to danger.

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It's a scientific way to that's I
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That's exactly all I play. This
is like real I'm like, fire is

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this fire? Watch this map?
No, I don't know what it was

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it was. I don't think it
was a real time map, but that

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would be kind of cool just watching
it burn up on that map real time.

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Yeah, I mean not cool.
Yeah, but that's you're going on

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dangerous road. Yeah. The drought
that makes these things so dangerous because all

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the trains are super dry. Yeah, definitely, it's still going on right,

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Like I know we had some rain
for a while. Yeah, it's

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still like the Congress created dust bowl
is effect. I've seen the signs.

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Yeah, you know, those signs
have been there for decades at this point,

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really yeah yeah yeah, since the
actual dust Bowl yeah probably yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah, So I've been
kind of doing that sort of on that

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stuff. Yeah, you are you
cramming in any video games? Yeah,

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I've been. I have been playing
there it is. I've been playing star

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Bound. Yeah, that's out.
Yes, I guess yeah, I guess

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that came right. Yeah, officially
that went to one point zero and left

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early access this week. No,
last week, the twenty first, twenty

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three years involved something like that.
Yeah, finally it's finally available and in

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need of a lot of work still. So I mean, like these games

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always are I mean Terraria, like
the number of updates that game saw a

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post, like, you know,
hitting their release day, like you know,

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obviously, I mean, does it
feel unfinished or is it just feel

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like, hey, it's a good
complete game, but there's still stuff to

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add. There's still there's still plenty
of stuff to add, and there's still

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like a lot of features that I
would view as kind of quality. But

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like some of the interface stuff just
seems clunky, and I think a lot

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of that game is built on the
notion that you have played other games like

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that before, and so there are
things about it, and things about like

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the crafting system and how you get
from planet to planet and and that sort

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of stuff is not explained particularly well. And you know, like I played

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it in early access and fumbled my
way around it when it kind of first

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rolled out, So there I had
an inkling of like how this stuff was

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going to go, and that stuff
hasn't changed that much, so I was

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able to figure out, like,
oh, okay, here's how I get

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fuel for this ship to fly it
somewhere. And you know, there's a

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whole there's like this whole onboarding.
There's like a long series of quests that

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you kind of take on before you
were able to kind of leave this the

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system that you're you're orbiting and go
somewhere else. Uh. And but in

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that process, like they don't necessarily
explain so that they're not actually teaching you.

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It's not no, no, not
that well. They don't spell it.

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Hey, you need to build a
coal furnace to reach the stars,

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Yeah you don't, So you don't
do that anymore. Now. Now that's

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that's something that's changed since since I
had played it last is now the fuel

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for your ships exist on moons,
and so Moon's orbit. You know most

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planets, uh, and that's moons
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element that you go there and get. But the minute you pick up any

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of it, uh, there is
a crazy sausage ghost that appears and has

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wiggly arms and this weird butt hole
looking mouth and it's slowly ghosts its way

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towards you. So you're kind of
like constantly running away from this thing that

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will murder you, like the ski
free yetti totally basically the skith thing going

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on, And so you are kind
of running away from this thing and mining

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as much of this fuel as you
can, and then you can beam out

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at any time. So as soon
as you get to a point where you're

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like I having a fuel or this
thing's uncomfortably closed, you can hit the

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button and escape. So are you
sure he's not trying to teach you how

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to play the game? You know? I have not let him catch me.

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It did just say like, maybe, hey, a spooky ghost will

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come and fight you as soon as
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as you as soon as you collect
it, the little robot friend says like,

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hey, it's it's all. It
doesn't happen. Maybe maybe the tutorial

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is in that hole. So it's
like picking up a key in Mario too

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exactly. Okay, this is like
it's like a Fanto situation, except a

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very slow Panto okay, which is
creepier in a way. Yeah, and

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the but it's a weird looking creature. I don't know. So yeah,

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so that's how you get fuel.
Now you can only put that element into

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your ship to to fuel the ship
as far as I know. Maybe there's

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something you can craft later that that
makes it different. But uh yeah,

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so you know, I don't know. I've been playing it a lot like

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Terraria, except occasionally I go to
different planets because I'm trying to find these

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artifacts. It's kind of like a
structure to it, of like you're trying

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to assemble these six keys to do
something to beat back the some evil world

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beat. Yeah. A couple of
people have compared it to Stardu Valley on

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Twitter to me, do you see
any comparisons there? It's something like,

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is it like space Stardo Valley?
I mean, is it side scroll it's

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Terraria. Okay. Have you played
Terraria a little bit? I couldn't really

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get into that. Have you played
Minecraft? Yeah? Yeah? What if

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Minecraft was side scrolling? Okay?
Now, what if Minecraft was side scrolling

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had spaceships? I think that's okay. What if No Man's Sky was a

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two D game and had a lot
more going on? That's soon, Yeah,

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we'll see. Uh so yeah,
Starbounds. I really like it.

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Uh It's it's a solid foundation,
But I think I like Terraria better.

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But Terrarea is also a way more
mature game in a weird way, which

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is weird to say. For your
almost so I'm like like a home server,

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like we're like, you're playing it
like a posse for Terraria. I

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did, yeah, and we've been
talking, like I played with one of

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them for a little while. Over
the weekend. We went and shot a

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big ufo that was beaming penguins with
assualt rifles down at us over and over

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again, which is a messed up, messed up thing to have happened.

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But I've mostly been playing alone.
You bring that character into online and so

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your ship kind of comes with you
onto the internet, so you can actually

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take all your crafting stations and just
plant them on your ship and just kind

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of kind of have a mobile base
for doing all the things you need to

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do, Like Okay, I need
to go h you know, smelt some

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or I need to go back to
my ship because that's where all all the

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stuff is. All my stuff is
down on a planet. I have a

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planet where I about a teleporter,
so I can easily get there without having

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to go like be back to the
ship then beamed down to the planet and

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all this other stuff. You can
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once you've built that teleporter. So
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if I was playing more multiplayer,
I would definitely at least duplicate all of

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my crafting stations on my ship to
make that a little more easy. But

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the ship's ships come with fixed designs
or can you like just straight up build

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new ruins on there, so manly
upgrade that. So this is something I

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have like nine or ten different upgrade
things that the tool tip for them kind

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of says it's for upgrading the ship, but I have not figured out a

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way to actually upgrade the ship yet. So the ships do get bigger as

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you go, but I don't know
how that actually happens yet. But yeah,

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you you do have some limited and
you can put platforms down to create

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level you know, you can you
can kind of build on your ship if

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you want, like restructure the interior. I take it. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, not to necessarily
the shape and design of the ship.

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That's that's that's the stuff that I
think you have to spend the upgrade

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cubes to get. Makes sense.
Yeah, so you know, I probably

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spent like fifteen twenty hours playing over
the weekend. It's kind of like,

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you know, it's a good game
to just have, like, Okay,

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I've got other stuff on, like
oh, there's a wrestling thing on,

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I'm gonna put that in this other
monitor and then play star and I need

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anything I can find to distract me
from wrestling. Yeah, yeah, it's

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it's good again, you know.
Fifth it's the past two wrestlings have been

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okay, which is an unprecedented street
That's that's true. So don't worry.

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They'll suck it up tonight. I'm
sure they'll find a way. They always

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do. Yeah. Yeah, so
a Starbound is a great game to have

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on. Like I turned the music
off immediately because it was super repetitive.

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But it's the sort of game where
you want to be kind of maybe listening

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to a pop It's a good podcast
game. It's a good podcast, like

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this podcast for example. Uh yeah, So I don't know that. That's

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mostly what I've been doing. I've
been looking at some of the other stuff

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that's coming out, like I really
want to play Quadraze Cowboys. Time to

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play that? Did you play some
of it? I hate that game?

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Whoa, I think I really fucking
hate Quadterlateral Quaterlateral Cowboy. Okay, I've

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never been so instantly turned off of
a game, And I fully understand that

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this might just be a mean thing. I suspect it is. Yeah,

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I think I'm gonna go ahead and
sue, and I know a lot of

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people really like it, and I
assume it's the type of people that probably

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spent a lot of time with command
prompts, because that was a little bit

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before my time, you know,
outside of using to run Wolf and Stign

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and Doom, I didn't really you
know, I wasn't hacking stuff or putting

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together in stuff. That's all you
need to know. Well, okay,

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if you can run Wolfenstein typing typing
wolf three D dot exc that's happened.

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You can get route to access to
any sequels, injections go. Just everything

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about that game seems like a giant
pain in the ass. Like to open

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a door, you got to plug
a thing in and select like open underscore

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door dot exe, and you have
to type in all this stuff like terminal

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door three underscore e X. That
sounds amazing. You spent a lot of

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time typing stuff and command prompts are
doing whatever. Like You're much more you

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know, computer focused than I've ever
been, And so I have no nostalgia

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for like this UI. Like the
UI is just clunky and bad to me,

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and everything is a pain in the
ass. I played like twenty minutes

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of it, and you can actually
just skip to any job you want to.

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So I was like, okay,
maybe just the opening I'm hating,

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let me just skip ahead to like
the real game. And everything about that

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game turned me off. It seems
like the thing in that game and this

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is I have not played it,
but I've kind of been following it loosely,

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not super closely, because he's been
streaming development of it for a good

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long time. But it seems like, Yeah, once you get beyond the

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thing of like I'm just gonna type
in open door, you are then typing

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in you're like loosely kind of coding
something that will turn off security and let

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you open a door get past security. So it is kind of like it's

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it's the hacking mini game large.
But how many people is that for?

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How limited is that audience people that
actually have spent time coding. I think

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it depends on how I mean,
it depends on how easy that language is

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to understand and how easy that stuff
is. It From looking at it,

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it seems way easier than something like
Man, what was that? There was

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a game there was like basically like
a program of programming. Game was no,

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no, no, not hacknet.
Hacknet has some unichs in it,

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but a man it was a games
of that one based on like assembly language.

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Yeah, I know what you're talking
about. That one. That one

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is too far. That's a game
that I look at and go like,

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man, I wish I was smart
enough to appreciate this. Even if it's

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simplified. It's a pain in the
ass to have to type in this stuff

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every time you want to open a
door or get into a terminal. I

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don't want to be typing underscores anytime
I want to do anything in a game.

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Yeah, if that's if that's like
every single time you ever open a

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door, then maybe that's what I
want to clarify. Like, I did

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not play that much. So like
there were doors where you'd plug in your

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thing and you just had to use
like WNS to like select the command prompt

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and then click you know, left
click to select it or whatever. But

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it's still like, let me just
go up and hit a to open a

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damn door or e or something.
Well, I was talking to somebody who

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was playing it over the weekend who
talked about the door things specifically, and

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they said, like you could pass
a number of seconds to that argument or

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that function or whatever to determine how
long the door stayed open. So I

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would immediately just type like, you
know, ten billion into that field.

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But then you're typing to open a
door. But then like that's using the

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tools there to get around that problem
by just making the door stay open for

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a billion seconds or whatever for every
door you want to open. Yeah,

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that sounds fun to me. Well, also, I mean one would hope

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that there would be a gameplay reason
to make sure those doors don't stay open,

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like if it is kind of hack
it, like a stealth situation,

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like the last thing you want is
that door to be open. Yeah,

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yeah, but I don't know.
I mean, you said you didn't get

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that far, but no, not
at all. So like I don't know

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that the grander person who made it
sound like like how long the door stays

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open is a puzzle solving element in
that. You know, I'm sure,

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and I'm sure there's great stuff there
if you're into that type of stuff.

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But I just thought everything was clunky
and ugly and bad and for me,

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I mean, I've people got are
into that the screenshots that I've seen,

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like yeah, the weird like boxy
people and stuff, but like I think

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that's been kind of that. That's
kind of the Blundow trademark. Yeah okay,

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yeah, yeah for some people,
they will love it. I've already

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seen people on Twitter. That's fine. It is not for me at all.

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I never want to play it again. I get it, though,

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Okay, I wonder I don't know
if anybody's I'm sure people finished it by

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now, but I wonder how long
it is because pretty sure some of a

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lot of their games being like fifteen
or in his I guess it's yeah,

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single dude, but uh yeah,
some of their games being like fifteen minutes

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long and stuff. I mean there
was a pretty big like chapter select when

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you pick a job. I don't
know how long each job is. This

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would definitely seemed like it would be
longer than some of the previous stuff.

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Yeah, I mean it's been in
the works for a pretty long Yes,

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I'm super excited to play that.
Yeah, and then I don't know,

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I downloaded Headlander but didn't start playing. That's out say, yeah, last

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name, you're shaking your head again. No, no, no, no,

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she could break my heart twice.
I just kind of shaking my head

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because I also didn't, you know, play that long. I played like

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that seems fine, I just didn't
play. Yeah, I'm I'm judging by

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the percentage completion thing. I'm like
fifteen percent of the way through it.

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So there are so there are neat
things that I've seen in Headland, kind

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of having looked at it once or
twice from like, oh, this conceptually

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seems kind of fascinating. It's almost
like an avenging spirit kind of thing,

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like possessing different bodies, odd world
in some ways. I could see that

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a little bit. I mean it's
a Metroid Vaneo like it is, yeah,

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that but stuff of like killing enemies
and then like bringing your head down

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to like in habit them, Like
everything seems like more deliberate than the Metroid

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kind of liked you know, So
it's it's it's like a geist, I

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guess, yeah, sure, like
this warm. I mean it was the

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director also directed Stacking, So yep, it's a lot of kind of similarities

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there in terms of like taking over
bodies that have different abilities. Okay,

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is it like? But like,
so look what I saw. I looked

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intriguing, but I also came away
from it going like there are neat ideas

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here, But I didn't have a
clear indicator if if the game was actually

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going to be any good or yeah. So I mean, like I said,

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I'm in an hour ninety minutes into
it or something. Uh, It's

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it's like a mix between a Metroid
vanea and an adventure game. Okay,

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Like it's not pure combat. You
can't jump, right, you do have

406
00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:17.960
kind of shadow complex style like right
analog like aiming control fil and like angling

407
00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:19.559
stuff to try to get and you
can bounce shots off walls and stuff like

408
00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:23.880
that, but it's not like a
top tier action game, like it doesn't

409
00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:29.279
have the shooting does not feel amazing, okay, and it's very much built

410
00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:32.279
around the idea of like, these
bodies are disposable and they're not gonna last

411
00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:34.880
you long, so you constantly need
to be hopping, right because maybe it

412
00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:37.759
changes and there are there are like
tiers of damage and stuff, so later

413
00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:40.720
on you can get better bodies,
you can take more hits and stuff,

414
00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:44.359
but early on it feels kind of
frustrating because you're taking a bunch of required

415
00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:47.519
hits because the action is not tight
enough for you to dodge stuff right necessarily.

416
00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:48.440
There is a role. If you
watch a trailer for that game,

417
00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:52.720
you'll see it's like a bullet hell
kind of situation. There's so many different

418
00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:56.880
shots and that looks exciting. Yeah, it's a little uh strange to hear

419
00:23:56.880 --> 00:23:59.359
that. There's like and you kind
of have shield when you're just the heads.

420
00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:02.039
Yeah, so the stuff that can
fop off like and you have a

421
00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:04.759
little shield like a little vacuum too, and flying the head around is like

422
00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:08.000
super fun and satisfying. It's really
maneuverable. It's got that cool looking shield

423
00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:11.240
which has like an amazing like graphical
effect on it, and it's fun like

424
00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:15.119
flying the head around and like deflecting
lasers as you go and that stuff.

425
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.160
But the did you land the head
on dog yet? Yes? Taking over

426
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:19.559
the dog? Yes? Their side
quests, like there's a side quest to

427
00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:22.400
go find a specific dog and run
it back to its owner or whatever.

428
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:25.960
So like that's what I mean when
I say that they're like adventure game elements

429
00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:29.680
in this, Like they're there are
long stretches of no combat where you're doing

430
00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:33.200
other other stuff, so you're never
able to jump, not that I've seen.

431
00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:34.440
There might be. There might be
bodies later that let you jump over.

432
00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:37.359
Sure, it does feel really restraining
and something that you know, looks

433
00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:41.240
like a Metroid style game not being
able to jump and that's such a huge

434
00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.759
Commando Yeah, yeah, yeah,
a hook. There's there's a cover system.

435
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:48.960
There's like pretty much any room you're
gonna fight stuff in, there will

436
00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.039
be cover points that you can hide
behind. But the enemies shoot super fast,

437
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:56.480
and the animation to get out of
cover and shoot back is so long

438
00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:00.160
that you will take hits just in
the course of popping out and shooting them.

439
00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:02.920
Yeah. So, like I started
getting upgrades for like more health and

440
00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:04.519
health regeneration and stuff like that,
and it's kind of becoming a non issue

441
00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:10.119
very quickly. But like first impression
of the combat is that it's not amazing

442
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.000
for that type of game. Yeah, but it's got other stuff going on,

443
00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:15.720
and the look of it is super
fantastic. Yeah, it's it's like

444
00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:21.000
this weird mix of well, it's
like a bunch of seventy sci fi,

445
00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:23.480
like the graphic design, the logo, and like the computers look straight out

446
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:26.720
of like the first Star Wars.
Uh, it's all you know, it's

447
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:30.960
mass EFFECTI in that way. But
then it's also like super sixties psychedelia,

448
00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:34.359
like the whole the whole thing takes
place on this like Robot Pleasure Palace,

449
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:40.480
and the robots all seem stoned all
the time, like and and and I

450
00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:44.440
gotta keep him and horny like a
double five. Yes, it's a weird

451
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:47.640
game. Uh, there's a lot
of there's a lot of fun stuff about

452
00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:49.279
it, and like I said,
it seems like the combat stuff is getting

453
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.200
better as I get into it,
So I'm excited to play more. I've

454
00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:55.839
nothing but good stuff about that.
So yeah, I totally wanted to man

455
00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:59.599
yep uh cool. Yeah, and
then I have not played it, but

456
00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:04.240
Marvel Ultimate Alliances out fucking like what
that Marvel Ultimate Alliances just like, well,

457
00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:07.160
I guess I have. I guess
I have played it. Actually,

458
00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:11.480
one and two is that just one
other activision like announced and dropping Master and

459
00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:15.319
last weekend during the Comic Convention,
the good one and the bad one.

460
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:22.480
I don't I don't know that.
I thought one one felt like the old

461
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:26.359
like X Men Legends games that were
really good, and then I too didn't.

462
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:27.279
I don't know that I would say
that two is like, yeah,

463
00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:32.480
it's maybe not It's not the sequel
you would want. But I remember playing

464
00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:36.240
too, and you're like, this
is still okay. We're being really repetitive.

465
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:37.519
And I think something that it's been
so long. I think that Great

466
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.480
Path was not great. Yeah,
I forget what it was that people didn't

467
00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:45.599
like about two. Yeah, it's
it's been a while. But I wonder

468
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.480
if Roster, Yeah, I wonder
if those games are gonna stand out at

469
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:52.559
all in a world where Diablo three
has come to consoles successfully, yeah,

470
00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:56.359
and where Marvel heroes exist on the
exists on the PC. Yeah, that's

471
00:26:56.359 --> 00:27:00.000
true. Yeah, Marvel Heroes is
like, you know, the really good

472
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.079
turn It. Yeah, you know
to that game. They're both people that

473
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:07.039
loved, Like, these are both
just steeper games than Ultimate Alliance, but

474
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.400
either of those games were totally so
I just wonder if those games are going

475
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.160
to feel like rudimentary coming back to
them now. Yeah, they had a

476
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:15.640
huge appeal as a console gamer back
then because we didn't really get outside of

477
00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:19.119
like Balder's Gate, Dark Alliance Legends
of an amazing game. Yeah, those

478
00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:22.680
games are awesome on console, but
like I never really got into Diablo until

479
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.000
three right. Uh so, yeah, if you played one on the PlayStation,

480
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.759
you would have seen the direct controls
it worked back then? Did it

481
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.119
work on Yeah? It was surprisingly
good? Really Yeah. I don't know

482
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:36.960
that you would go back to it
now, but but for something where you

483
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:38.720
looked at it when man, this
is gonna be terrible. Diablo one on

484
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:42.000
the PlayStation was actually pretty okay.
I learned command and cocker on the playsta

485
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:48.960
exactly. I played x Com on
the PlayStation one without a mouse, without

486
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:52.759
because who would have a PlayStation mouse? That's crazy. No, I'm a

487
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.400
big fan of those games, man, seriously, Yeah, Like I just

488
00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:57.920
you know, once I heard the
announcement, I'm like, shit, let

489
00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:02.359
me dig out my copy of you
know, the Gold Edition of Ultimate Alliance.

490
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:03.720
Then I'm like this, Yeah,
this game totally What was that like

491
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:08.759
three sixty launched somewhere around there after
it was pretty much closed. It was

492
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.839
like seventy, should say, and
the second one was like late oh nine,

493
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.000
early twenty ten something like that.
Yeah, that's roughly. Yeah.

494
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:19.359
Yeah, they've been kind of yeah, quiet about you know what characters,

495
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:22.640
you know, what you could like
I mentioned the Gold Edition that it has

496
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.079
like you know, all the characters
in the Lock and DALC and shit like

497
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:27.160
that, and I don't know exactly
what it's going to be included in these

498
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.119
and they've well they're at now so
someone knows the answer to that question.

499
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:34.599
It's just not us. Uh,
how much is it? It's sixty for

500
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:38.680
the bundle of both and then individually
each one's forty. It seems like a

501
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:42.200
lot. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, have they added much in terms of

502
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:47.599
we know, no, I believe
these are those games and there were some

503
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:51.200
platform specific characters for some of those
games, like the DLC went off sale

504
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.400
at one point contracts expired, Like
that was one of those games that,

505
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:57.359
like MVC three, like at some
point just things stopped being available for it,

506
00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:00.680
and you're like, what chipping here, some weird stuffy activisions been in

507
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.240
this habit right, Like they dumped
that prototype prototy Master kind of out of

508
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:10.480
the blue a while back. I
think they did something else like that them

509
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:14.279
specifically. Anyway, that probably gives
you some ideas, right what those ports

510
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.279
are, Like, Yeah, that
price taggs a little daunting. Yeah.

511
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:21.400
Do they have online? I guess
they would. One would, one would

512
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:26.279
hope, one would hope especially man
I might wait for sale. I don't

513
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.319
know. Yeah, see how that
stuff shakes out. Yeah, yeah,

514
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.240
yeah definitely, Jeff, Hi,
would you like to speak on gal Gun

515
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.279
before we move on? Oh?
Sure that's a video game? Sure is?

516
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.640
Yeah? Yeah, gal Gun Double
Pieces out next week. I've been

517
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.839
playing that. It's been nice to
see it in English because you give it

518
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.880
play the Japanese version for so long
exactly, and I just don't really know

519
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.160
the story, yeah, super well. But being able to you know,

520
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.160
read it and understand it, it's
like, Okay, now I guess now

521
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:59.839
I understand the whole new appreciation.
Really, what's really going on in gal

522
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:02.839
on, what's really going on a
gal gun is that you are shooting women

523
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.119
to give them orgasms. Okay,
just like real life, Just like real

524
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:07.839
life. What are you shooting them
with? Uh? You Ford? No,

525
00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:12.920
what's you? The name of the
oh what are you shooting? Maybe?

526
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:18.519
And there is a specific term that
they use. They don't actually say

527
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.000
orgasm either, You say you're giving
them euphoria. Right, It's like that

528
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.640
mini game An Incredible Crisis when you're
on the ferris wheel and you have to

529
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.039
move the analog stick until they become
euphoric. Exactly, yeah, it is

530
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:33.880
exactly that. Uh yeah, So
you get shot by an angel by a

531
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.599
cupid, but her guns are set
to full instead of one, so it's

532
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:42.599
like you are getting thirty two times
the power of one normal cupid arrow.

533
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.880
So instead of her just trying to
help you, you know, become less

534
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.319
of a like a you know,
a loser, and help you find somebody

535
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:55.599
instead, it becomes this very critical
situation where your only chance, you're only

536
00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.720
appeal to anyone anyone is happening in
this one day. So you have one

537
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:04.440
day to find your true love.
And also everyone loves you. Uh,

538
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:08.000
so you have to shoot these women
to get them to these school girls.

539
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:11.559
I guess I should say to get
them to back off because they are all

540
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.559
running up and trying to hand you
things, which causes damage when they hand

541
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.319
you something. Wait. I thought
that shooting them made them love you.

542
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.519
No, No, they already love
you because you got shot with the arrow.

543
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:25.319
Yeah, so you are you are? You are intractive. The legend

544
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:27.839
of the super Popular it's, yeah, this whole thing. At one point

545
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:32.680
the game called me creeper Sama.
So that's you know, the localization is

546
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:37.839
kind of taking some liberties and and
you know in a way that they know

547
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:40.960
what game they're putting, what they
have, Uh, they know exactly what

548
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.960
they have. Uh, it's it's
so it's kind of a bad shooter without

549
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.559
like a light gun on rails.
Yeah, definitely, it's on rails.

550
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.640
You have some spots where you can
kind of rotate and and turn to face.

551
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.920
There's also, uh the dokey dokey
mode where when you shoot them with

552
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.720
the charged up shot, you have
a meter the builds as you play.

553
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:04.119
That's what brings into the camera mode, where you give them an extra personal

554
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.880
dose of euphoria by rubbing and touching
on certain parts of their body and that

555
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:12.160
can affect your player's stats, which, yeah, it's gonna I was gonna

556
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:15.359
ask if you found any benefits to
maxing the lewdness meter. So I guess

557
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:19.680
the none of that is coming to
play yet. There are four character stats.

558
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.960
You choose what type of character you
want to play. I chose pervert,

559
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.039
which was one of the four starters. There's another one that is what

560
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.720
I need to know what all the
classes are called. I don't know the

561
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:35.680
they're unlockables. There's like there's like
jock bookworm. Uh. And so there

562
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.440
are four different stats, and you
there are four different characters you can or

563
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:43.319
you know, classes you can play, and each one has a predominant stat.

564
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.160
So it's like, you know,
and this determines kind of which I

565
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:49.960
think, which girls might be more
appealing or less appealing. Uh. But

566
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.799
those numbers change depending on what you
do in the dokey dokey mode, So

567
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:59.400
depending on where you're rubbing to give
them the special euphoria. What does dokey

568
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.319
doke mean? It's like a heart
heart heartbeat, yeah, okay, sodoki

569
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:07.000
doki panic is Yeah, it's like
a heartbeat panic. Yeah yeah, and

570
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:13.160
so yeah, so depending on where
you rub them, you might get more

571
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:20.759
lewdness or you might get less.
It's accurate, Okay, Im, how

572
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:22.519
how creepy is it? Like,
I mean, aside from it's as creepy

573
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.119
as you want it to be.
I mean, you know, it's it's

574
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:29.960
it's about choice. Can it be
not creepy? No? No? Yeah,

575
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:34.880
I mean that's not whatever it's it
is what. It's not bad.

576
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.319
It's not so bad. I've seen
yeah, much worse, even on consoles

577
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.519
like exactly Center Kangura, like one
of the most recent ones. It's like

578
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:44.839
in the first five minutes, like
there's talk of like incest and it's like

579
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.559
this girl's like following another one just
to have multiple orgasms per day, and

580
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:51.920
she gets turned on by dead people, and it's like, what the fuck

581
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.440
is going on? And in this
game real life, that's what's going on.

582
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:58.640
That's what's going on. Okay,
all right, uh yeah, so

583
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:00.599
it's uh, I don't I just
don't think it's a great game. We'll

584
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.799
do a quick look of that and
show it off, you know, like

585
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:08.199
it's it's fascinating, but I just
I don't, you know, there it

586
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.599
really isn't much else out there like
it, at least in this territory.

587
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.280
Sure, but I don't know that
I would say that it's like some amazing

588
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:17.920
game. This was the first one
to get localized. Yeah. Yeah,

589
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.400
the first outgun was not like you, you imported the I did original.

590
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.719
I imported it for achievements basically Virtual
Cop with orgasms. Yeah, pretty much.

591
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:29.400
There are certain yeah, you you
by looking at the girls, you

592
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.599
get certain areas where their weak spots
are, whether it's like breasts or legs

593
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.679
or head or whatever, and shooting
them there much like a Justice shot Virtual

594
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.320
Cop, you get an ecstasy shot, okay, by shooting them in the

595
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:45.679
weak spot. So, yes,
exactly that good stuff. Did you get

596
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:49.639
the screen cleaner with it? No, No, they send they send codes.

597
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:53.480
Oh that's a that's way. I
guess it's out on the Vita also,

598
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:57.719
so they have some custom package where
a screen cleaner, that's it's a

599
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:02.039
pair of panties. Mmmm. Just
in case. Look, they that's the

600
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.800
that's their audience, that's the game
they're making, that's the game they're localizing

601
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.360
and putting out. They should lean
into it. I guess. Yeah,

602
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.519
Like, don't fucking half ask this
yeah, if you want to bring your

603
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:17.840
creepy orgasm game over to the US. Fucking doing panties and pillows in there,

604
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.679
and they they're they're doing it for
better or worse. It certainly are

605
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:29.119
Yeah sure, so yeah that's cool, Dan. Yeah, you can playing

606
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.960
anything else since I play a lot
Overwatch. Oh what's that about. It's

607
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.880
the first person shooter from Blizzard Entertainment. Yeah, I've heard things about it.

608
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.159
Yeah. How's uh, how's on
a treating on a school? I

609
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:45.440
am not great as her, as
video evidence would suggest as well, but

610
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.760
she's great to have on your team. She's a real helpful So good have

611
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.920
I announced the blizz Con virtual items
yet that you'll get for buying the ticket.

612
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:57.079
I want to see what they'll do
with with seeing the virtual items.

613
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:00.920
I saw like the goodie bag,
the physical stuff, and there's no dates

614
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:06.840
out there for yeah starting sting,
they're selling virtual tickets notes. Okay,

615
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.039
yeah, so I wonder if I
mean, but I had to. Traditionally

616
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:13.280
there are in game items for all
the Blizzards games, so this will be

617
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.360
the first time for Overwatch, maybe
many of which become like insanely valuable,

618
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:20.719
like go for like hundreds if not
thousands of dollars on vas ridiculous. But

619
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:22.360
yeah, like with that that game
being built around hats, I have to

620
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:25.960
wonder that. Yeah, you will
assume they would have to do skins.

621
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.079
Yeah, for for something, Deeva
is very good. Now. Oh yeah,

622
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:34.039
I saw I saw a bunch people
saying she got buffed. I'm starting

623
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.400
to play with her, and she's
she's definitely better. I loved her.

624
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:38.760
What did they? What do they
do? So? Like her explosion when

625
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.880
she gets out, it's instead of
four seconds to explosion, which gives people

626
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.360
too much time to run away,
it's three seconds. And also now it

627
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.760
doesn't damage you when you pop out
as divas, and like the cool down

628
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:52.840
time is like drastically or the old
time is drastically reduced. The defense matrix

629
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:57.239
thing that the shield she can do
is now a meter that governs that so

630
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.440
kind of goes up and down and
tuned it on and off, just like

631
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:01.800
flipping it on, letting it,
you know, run the four seconds or

632
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:04.639
whatever. Yeah, so it's like
an ault fire. So I can just

633
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:07.480
hold the right mauch button or you
can turn on an option, so it's

634
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.840
actually a toggle switch. So yeah, there's just a lot more options with

635
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:13.039
her, she just seems way stronger. She can get in and out of

636
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:15.639
situations with all her old's better and
comes comes along quicker. So yeah,

637
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:19.239
she's she's much better now. She's
super fun. She's still still playing every

638
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:21.679
day. Oh yeah, get a
blue box every day. Yeah yeah,

639
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:22.559
I am too, man, I
can't break away from it. Like I

640
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.679
bought Headlander last night, so I
really wanted to talk about something on the

641
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.320
fucking podcast. It's supposed to Overwatch, and you know, I've got limited

642
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:31.519
time now. So it's like,
you know, I've got a couple hours,

643
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:35.199
you know, per night where I
can really sink my teeth into a

644
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:37.559
game. And I just find myself
going back to Overwatch and I can't stop.

645
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.440
I just have fun every time I
play it. Yeah, well,

646
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:44.000
I I just see I'm getting a
little higher level now, so you know,

647
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:46.320
the I'm not doing ranks matches,
I'm still doing casual stuff. I

648
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:51.480
don't like ranked, yeah, oh
yeah, Ranked is terrible, but it

649
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:54.239
seems like there's more like steamroller kind
of matches where it's like it's so lopsided

650
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:58.360
and I don't like being a part
of, you know, the team that

651
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:02.239
just got steamrolled that's no. Sure, that happens way more incompetitive Yeah,

652
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:06.440
and it's longer too, so yeah, because it's like three rounds. Yeah

653
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:08.960
yeah. Have you heard about the
Honor thing about how they can boot people.

654
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:13.599
I saw something about this today.
So one of her abilities is she

655
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.639
shoots a tranquilize your dart, right, it puts you asleep for a certain

656
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:20.360
amount of seconds or until you take
damage. But if you have three Honors

657
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.400
on your team and you just kind
of like sequester one of the enemies around,

658
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.840
you can just keep shooting darts into
them until the game recognizes you as

659
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:29.280
away from keyboard and boots you from
the game. That's kind of funny.

660
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.719
So they'll it's pretty great. You
just keep them asleep until they get booted.

661
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.679
You can only have like one character. Well that's just in general.

662
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll
probably fix that at something that would be

663
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:45.639
infuriating if that happened you. But
we were we were talking a little bit

664
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:49.039
earlier, Brad, how do you
think that like the general consensus of that

665
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:51.599
game is that like it's kind of
for casuals. Oh no, I mean

666
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:53.320
I'm not saying everybody thinks, but
like, who was it, Dan or

667
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:57.800
somebody seemed surprised that anybody out there
thought that goal. But like I've totally

668
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.920
seen there is definitely a contingent of
people that are like, the headshots are

669
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.159
too easy. Counterstrike Go guys,
I've definitely seen people saying like, oh,

670
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.920
this is the baby team shooter for
babies. I'll take it. You

671
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.320
know, I'm not a first person
shooter guy. I have a great time

672
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:14.159
playing, and it's got me back
into you know, that kind of competitive

673
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:15.840
like first person stuff. It got
me into team based, class based stuff

674
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:20.000
in a way that I did not
expect that set. I haven't played in

675
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:22.519
weeks. Yeah, I don't have
any fun playing stuff like Counterstrike Go because

676
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.599
you know, everyone takes it's so
seriously, talks the hardcore Quake live.

677
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.199
Oh yeah, talk about videos,
talk about that, yeah, here and

678
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:34.079
there, here and there. I'm
not I'm I'm not saying that I'm doing

679
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:36.559
well. In fact, I would
actually say that in some of these rail

680
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.639
fights, I am doing downright poorly, but you're still having a good time.

681
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:42.880
But I'm still having a good time. I like use the zoom,

682
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:45.719
Yes, I was like I would
like zooming in and popping off for a

683
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:47.480
quick rail and Yeah, like that
feels extra satisfying. Yeah, not all

684
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:51.119
the time, you know, it
kind of depends on on where you're at

685
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:52.599
what you're doing, but yes,
yes, sometimes you need zoom. For

686
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.039
the third week running, I'm gonna
say I should download Quick Life. You

687
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:59.440
should haven't done yet, You should
probably do that. It takes a good

688
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:02.280
game. Besides Overwatching. I had
booted up a God Eater again a little

689
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:06.320
more Monster Hunter, but really just
barely touched those guys. Yeah, man,

690
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:07.760
uh when I know we talked about
it already, but I'm just,

691
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:10.519
oh, I can't believe you didn't
fall into the Monster Hunter hole again.

692
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:14.440
Yeah. That was hard to avoid
actually, because this game is really good.

693
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.400
It's just man, with God Eater
out and Overwatch and there's just a

694
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:21.239
lot of other stuff that you know, I've heard people describe Monster Hunter is

695
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:23.719
kind of like the greatest hits of
previous Monster Hunter? Is that why you're

696
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:27.599
not getting into it? Because it
feels like kind of done that? But

697
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.039
you know, with the addition of
the new like super moves, and that's

698
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:34.599
really exciting to me, and that's
that that change is enough of the game.

699
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.159
The core game play I think too
indice me. But just haven't gotten

700
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.800
around to all the stuff. The
different styles seemed like that was like a

701
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:43.559
huge amount of new mechanics to that's
that's a big, big change. But

702
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:45.519
at the same time, you know, we're kind of treading through, you

703
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:52.000
know, familiar environments and monsters and
I've done it, man, I've done

704
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.480
that for hundreds of hours, and
yeah, I just don't have a huge

705
00:40:54.480 --> 00:41:00.079
straw. Oh King of Fighters demo, Oh yeah, yeah, it's super

706
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:06.079
good. So I've mentioned it before, like, you know, my initial

707
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:08.000
impression of that game, you know, moving to three D and you know,

708
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:13.000
just some of the character models didn't
leave a yeah, good impression on

709
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.679
me. But once I get hands
on in that game, like it to

710
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.480
me it plays a lot like old
KOA. You guys seem pretty happy with

711
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:21.800
it on I would, Yeah,
it took me a little while. Like

712
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:23.960
when I when I first when we
first played that demo on the show last

713
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:27.719
week, it was like something about
this doesn't feel right, the timing,

714
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.599
the spacing, just something about the
the jump speed, like just all of

715
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:34.400
it felt off to me. But
I think that I went back because it's

716
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:37.000
like overly animated and it's in three
D. It just it looks different and

717
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.480
there's I don't know, it's doing
something weird in your head. Yeah,

718
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:43.360
but I but playing a little bit
more like Okay, actually this timing does

719
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:46.159
feel right. This is starting to
line up. I think there's some stuff

720
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:51.639
with the art style, Like it
just doesn't look great. Guy's dinosaur ko

721
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.199
doesn't look like Yeah. Yeah,
yeah, I mean there are elements of

722
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.840
the art that I actually really do
like, but some of it just feels

723
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.679
like this knockoff. It feels like, you know, some of the games

724
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:06.119
like like a fighter's impact or a
critical blow, like some of these like

725
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:09.360
kind of like there, they're far
better looking. Yeah. Three D fighters,

726
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:13.239
Yeah for sure. This is this
feels like a throwback to like the

727
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:15.239
PS one era when everyone was making
a three D fighter and they all looked

728
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:21.400
super generic that uh non design perhaps. Yeah, as far as the design,

729
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:23.239
the mechanics, you know, totally
separate from that. I just mean

730
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:25.760
when you look at it, you
go like, this just seems like some

731
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:30.280
also ran fighting game from the Fighting
game Boom of the late nineties. SK

732
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.280
has been out of the game for
a little while. Yeah, maybe they're

733
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:35.519
a little rusty. Yeah, and
like some of the new like s and

734
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:39.320
case characters like I don't know,
they're just I don't know what it is.

735
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:44.360
Is it too much too much anime
for you? Maybe maybe like that

736
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:50.280
Sylvie character she's got, like you
like anime? Uh I do? I

737
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:53.440
do, But they're they're a sub
genre maybe not anime that maybe he doesn't

738
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:57.400
want anime King of Fighters, you
know, no, I wouldn't mind it.

739
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:00.360
So yeah, they added like a
super movie I want to kid fighters

740
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.039
and a lot you know, street
Fighter for you know where you got a

741
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:07.159
big like cinematic attacks and shit like
that. So, I mean they're adding

742
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.400
stuff to it feels good. I'm
really excited for it. There's so many

743
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:14.519
characters. I think that's that's where
the argument about the art kind of starts

744
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:16.599
to be a little more acceptable when
you're like, oh, you know,

745
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:21.159
some of these characters faces don't look
great up close. But there's like fucking

746
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:24.880
a thousand characters for this game or
it was like fifty a big number,

747
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:30.280
bigger than most three D fighter,
most polygonal fighters have been as of late.

748
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:35.920
So still got that Geese, Yeah, I believe they still got that

749
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.400
Storm was pretty awesome that there was
a bad guy named Geese. Yeah,

750
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:44.360
Raging Storm. Yes, he's my
dude. He's my dude. I got

751
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:46.320
a lot of dudes in that game. Yes, Brad, life is so

752
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:51.760
much better without Clash Royal. Yeah, you were right. Fuck that trash

753
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.840
ye terrible was right? Like how
long ago Jason was on the band guard

754
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:57.719
of that. I think you were
the first one that I think you were

755
00:43:57.719 --> 00:43:59.679
telling me I shouldn't delete it.
You kept talking about how great it was,

756
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:01.199
Brad. But he wishes, he
wishes you ill, so he you

757
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:06.960
know, I want to just say, way ahead of the curve. Yeah,

758
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:09.639
never download. This might be the
funeral for Clash Royal. Discussion on

759
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:13.840
here if we've also deleted it and
not playing never cool with that. I

760
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:15.679
never even played a match in that
tournament you made me join. Yeah,

761
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:21.199
I watch. I joined the tournament
at your behest, and then I played

762
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:22.519
it like a public match just to
get warmed back up. And I hated

763
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.480
that match so much that I immediately
deleted The game. Was great, Yep,

764
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.840
it's it's good to be here.
Yeah. I think I might.

765
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:30.519
Actually I might have played one match
in that tournament. I don't think you

766
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:34.519
did. I can't remember, but
no, you played public matches and hated

767
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:37.639
that. Yeah, it's terrible.
Now we all get to get on that

768
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:39.559
Adventure Time puzzle quest. Yeah,
I need to check that out. That's

769
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:43.719
the thing, Like, I feel
way better with Clash Royal out of my

770
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:45.880
life, but I haven't found anything
to replace it. I don't. You

771
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:47.440
don't have to. You don't have
to fill that point. You can just

772
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:51.079
sit and be a person like on
on the bus. I have been reading

773
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:53.880
a lot now you're being crazy.
You can read, you have. I've

774
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:58.119
been reading a lot more since Clash
Royal went away too. What if you

775
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:02.880
got it a tap tycoon? Mmmm? Tap my Katamari? No legs on

776
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:07.199
it? Oh yeah, I know, I've pretty much I should uninstall it

777
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:13.239
because it's like nag notifications are the
worst. It's like where are you prints?

778
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.480
Where art thou? Like? Fuck
off? That's where I'm at.

779
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:17.800
And even if you have the option
to turn that stuff off, if they're

780
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:22.440
like too like aggressive with it,
I'm like fuck you get exactly yeah,

781
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.840
yeah, over aggressive. The minute
they have a notification that says like that

782
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:29.519
basically acknowledges that you haven't launched the
app in a while. Yeah, that's

783
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:31.079
where I'm like, Okay, I'm
done. With this. I handloaded a

784
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:35.039
game that started sending the notifications before
I ever played it. I didn't think

785
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.119
that was even loud. No,
that shouldn't be. Maybe you must have

786
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.400
you had must the app. Maybe
I like accidentally launched it at one point

787
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:44.440
and killed it. Obviously you can
turn notifications off. Yeah, I like

788
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:46.119
to. With a lot of these
games that I'm installing and checking out.

789
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:50.679
I'm actually curious to see how awful
they get with them, so I usually

790
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:53.079
turn them all on. Are you
still collecting cards? I mean I still

791
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:57.199
have that thing installed and get a
daily bonus. That thing is the worst.

792
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.760
It's real with notification. I did
leted that pretty quick. I'm gonna

793
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:05.400
I'm gonna say wrestling app talk counts
as wrestling talk. It's a game save

794
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:07.400
that. I've got a pretty limited
addition today with a Tommy. Also,

795
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:10.320
that's not a game. It's it's
it is one hundred percent out of game.

796
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:14.000
Yep, it is okay, it
is the realist game. It is.

797
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:16.639
No, it's famous dot app a
game. No, okay, what

798
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:20.639
are these things? What do you
call probably not just apps? Fucking distractions?

799
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:22.039
I mean, you call it like
some fucking thing you can do.

800
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:24.639
You call them bad social networks.
I don't know, you know, it's

801
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:29.039
like, yeah, it's a social
network network. Yeah. Have you guys

802
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.000
touched that since that? Yeah,
I've been logging into it and just like

803
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:36.679
I keep favoriting my wife. Okay, now she's like worth more than I

804
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:38.920
a famous Yeah, I just buy
Danny O'Dwyer from time to time. Okay,

805
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:43.480
uh, Eric Tay was getting too
rich for my blood. I was.

806
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:45.840
I was camping the John Romero page
for a while. Yeah, yeah,

807
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:50.280
I don't understand what the fuck.
I was an early investor in Adam

808
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:53.360
Boy's futures. Oh yeah, and
get yes, so that that is like

809
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:59.280
an amazing actual use of that thing, just you know, yeah Twitter speculation,

810
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:01.599
right, Yeah, there is a
game there if they if they turned

811
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:06.000
that, if they were famous,
into a game they could Sellan was the

812
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:07.519
one that when mentioned that one,
it's like you knew you're going into evil

813
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:09.800
sep Killian was going to blow up, so you got in on the ground

814
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:13.559
floor. Like that's actually kind of
amazing. So I wish it was more

815
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:15.599
like that, But that stuff is
so weirdly unpredictable and like you know,

816
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:20.719
like that doesn't make any sense.
So it's it's that's dumb, but there's

817
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:22.679
a cool core ride. Like basically
came out of like I think I said

818
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.519
this last week, but I came
out of messing around with that and messing

819
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:30.320
around with this digital trading card thing, thinking like, man, I could

820
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:35.639
I could make a I should make
apps because there's a game in there that's

821
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:37.320
not do better, that's not being
pulled out. It could do better than

822
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:43.480
that that I I think you could
do. Let's do it. No,

823
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:45.639
no premium feature. Giant Bond makes
an app? Okay, yeah, how

824
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:49.559
hard could it be? Yeah?
We all have phones. Yes, well

825
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.920
that's true. That's all all all
phone apps are made on phones. No,

826
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:54.599
not a lot of people use your
Friendly. It's all touch based.

827
00:47:54.960 --> 00:48:00.199
Just swipe things around totally and you
have an app. Uh Drew Scanlon Yes,

828
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:04.440
and all the hubbub Yes, we
had not really checked in down there

829
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:07.480
at the command center. Yeah,
how things going turn account? How many

830
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:13.119
screens? I had one more screen? Boxes and dials and sliders and a

831
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:15.880
lot of stuff over the stuff going
on? How's it going good? I'm

832
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:20.039
still making a way my way through
uncharted four very slowly. Yes, it's

833
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:23.079
chipping away. Where did you land
on? Like the difficulty level and aim

834
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:27.199
assists stuff because it seems like a
hot topic for a while. Yeah,

835
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.519
I turned it away down. I
turned it like it's almost off. The

836
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:32.960
more I have to shoot guys,
the more I think about it, I

837
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:35.960
feel like I would have had a
better time with that game if I had

838
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.519
turned our stuff down. I've also
been looking real hard at rim World,

839
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:47.440
which people say in hushed tones it's
like to our Fortress, scary, but

840
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:52.239
it also looks a little like Factorio
and run Oh yeah, it's like double

841
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:57.480
Runaway. It sounds cool if,
yeah, you don't have anything else to

842
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.320
do with your life. Rim World
seems like one of those games is that

843
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:05.000
the people that are talking about things
that happened while they're playing rim World make

844
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.159
it sound amazing, But then I
look at it and look at what you're

845
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.880
actually doing, or like, I
don't know if I will play enough of

846
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:14.639
this to have amazing stories of my
own. Yeah, I mean it's that,

847
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:15.599
you know, that's that's Eve,
that's the war Fortress, like you

848
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.400
can you can. I mean that
that's like Starbound and to a certain extent,

849
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:21.920
you know, you're kind of making
your own fun. But uh,

850
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.639
yeah, you can read tales of
those games, tales of the world all

851
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:29.519
day long. But like teasing those
tales out for yourself. It's rim world

852
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:35.679
dot xxx. This is where my
tails live. Let's go buy that buy

853
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:38.519
let's go buy some domains. We
can't people hear this now that it's a

854
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:44.239
live show. We cannot do the
thing where we go register the domain before

855
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:47.360
the show goes up. You never
discussed joke. Domains again are down?

856
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:51.000
Okay, all right, well it's
time for us to take our first break.

857
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:52.480
Let's go think about what we've done. Okay, we'll be right back,

858
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.960
and we're back. We are.
I think, I think we're still

859
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:30.679
alive. Welcome back. Think this
thing is still going. Yeah, this

860
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:35.880
rattle traps still chugging along down there, evidently. Yeah, fingers crossed.

861
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:37.920
Not swearing up a storm, but
it normally does. Your cross You don't

862
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:40.599
run out of cold down there before
this thing's over. Shovel as fast as

863
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:44.239
I can. Yes, indeed,
I'll get ready to shovel a little faster.

864
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:46.599
Signed for some news. Chuck Chuck, Chuck, chuck. Headlines of

865
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:50.719
the world, news happened, news
all around the world. I mean we've

866
00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.320
been we've been retorking this thing on
tuesdays for a while as we prep for

867
00:50:53.320 --> 00:51:00.440
this thing. Yes, sometimes recording
on Tuesday pays dividends. Occasionally on days

868
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:02.199
like today we get an extra day
and news some stuff happened. Yeah,

869
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:06.880
like stuff happens on Tuesday mornings a
lot. Yeah, and we have some

870
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:10.639
stuff this morning. Uh. Euro
Gamer has published a giant info dump on

871
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:15.559
what they believe the Nintendo NX to
be. Right, I'm not sure how

872
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:19.440
much of this had ever been out
there and confirmed by outlets before, but

873
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:22.280
like, you know, the top
level, Hey, it's a handheld that

874
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:24.840
right connect to your TV. Check
it will be like their one platform.

875
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:28.559
They will not be making a separate
handheld and a console next time. It's

876
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.360
just going to be the thing.
The fact that it's connecting to a TV.

877
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:32.119
Has that been kind of so that's
what I'm saying, like it,

878
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:35.639
I mean, obviously that's what everybody
has assumed this thing would be for,

879
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:37.199
Like, I'm super into that a
year or two now. But I don't

880
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.119
know, I don't know if any
outlet ever came out and said, hey,

881
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:45.599
we have confirmed there's been a lot
of third hand stuff they're knocking around

882
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:50.199
for a long time. Kind of
basically saying most of this stuff. Yeah,

883
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:52.400
but they go a lot but no
one Yeah, I feel like no

884
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.800
one has ran like felt comfortable enough
and run down enough like sources to put

885
00:51:55.800 --> 00:52:00.360
it together into a new story until
now. But yeah, like the notion

886
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:02.960
that this is a hybrid handheld that
hooks up to a TV, like that's

887
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:07.440
been that's been chicking around for a
while, unified Nintendo platform. But yeah,

888
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.920
they they go a lot deeper with
details. The big thing to me

889
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:15.159
here is that they suggest there is
a modular control scheme on this thing.

890
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:17.800
Yeah, you're like kind of controller
components that will snap onto the side when

891
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.079
it's in handheld mode that you could
theoretically then like pull off and use as

892
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:25.280
controllers at home, kind of kind
of napped together as you were playing on

893
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:29.639
the table, so you're like getting
rid of like an iPad thing in the

894
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:31.119
middle. Not as well. So, I mean they posted they had an

895
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:35.519
illustration attached to this, which I
think was just there and interpretation of what

896
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.599
this would be, and like the
things they had almost looked like two little

897
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:40.000
we remotes or it would almost feel
like, you know, almost like if

898
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:45.000
you had a tablet that had a
Bluetooth controller hooked up to it that you

899
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:46.239
wanted to play on the go,
Like you just set that thing down and

900
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:50.159
you're playing like this. Yeah right. They just kind of in front of

901
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:52.400
it. They didn't necessarily say that
the two controller things would like snap together

902
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:57.639
or anything like that, but you
know, because or two separate, you

903
00:52:57.679 --> 00:52:59.400
know, you have to kind of
look at, you know, the types

904
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:01.119
of games that might be made for
a platform like this, Like we still

905
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:05.119
don't know anything about whether it will
have a touch screen on it, so

906
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:09.039
there could be elements of like,
well, you might dock this but still

907
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:14.360
have that whole unit in your hand
while it is quote unquote docked, because

908
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:16.639
you might need the touch screen as
a controller like a we you like solution.

909
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:21.960
But also if you look at Zelda
and you played Zelda, how much

910
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.400
touch screen was in Zelda? Like, man, that was there any I

911
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:27.599
don't think there was any. In
fact, was it even turned? I

912
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:30.079
think maybe they had a map down
there. Many think you're like, we

913
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:34.559
came out of that demo going like
this is the most like controller and button

914
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.280
driven game that has made in a
very long I feel like that was kind

915
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:39.920
of the general consensus around that stuff. So I look at that and say,

916
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:44.320
well, if they're making this game
for both platforms, then maybe they

917
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:46.079
don't have a touch screen on that
thing, because if you think about it

918
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:50.280
in terms of this is a handheld
that you need to be able to also

919
00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:53.639
hook up to a TV and play
a game there, you kind of can't

920
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:57.920
have a touch screen unless that handheld
is always going to be in your hand,

921
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:00.880
and then you've got a like a
DS like solution, which then you

922
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:04.280
wouldn't be able to take advantage of
when it's in handheld, right, So

923
00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:08.760
I think that starts to maybe make
the case the touchscreen is out, but

924
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:13.400
maybe there are the features that are
exclusive to one mode, whether you're docked

925
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:15.440
or on the go. I think
that would be well, so that the

926
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:19.360
powers in the device, right,
So it's not like the DOC is some

927
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:24.920
base station full of guts. So
you know, theoretically you wouldn't want to

928
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:28.280
do that. And if you look
at where their business has been, where

929
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:31.960
the handheld has kind of been leading
the charge and the console is not making

930
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:35.599
things that would be exclusive when it's
docked to a TV, seems like a

931
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:39.320
risky endeavor. Yeah, for kind
of the space that this I look at

932
00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:43.119
this as like a successor to the
three DS more than a successor to the

933
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.559
WU, but also both you know, well yeah, I mean it's kind

934
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:49.960
of it's kind of bed of union
of the two. Yeah. But but

935
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:52.519
in the grand scheme of things,
like where it'll like where it'll kind of

936
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:54.599
probably fit power wise, where it'll
kind of finably fit, Like, this

937
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:57.639
isn't gonna be some huge you know, some people are like, oh,

938
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:00.119
they're finally gonna make a powerful Like
no, that's not Endo, that's been

939
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:02.760
Nintendo. And on top of that, if it's portable, like you kind

940
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:06.159
of can't do that, yeah,
if you want it to have any kind

941
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:08.320
of bettery life. So the euro
Gamer says, report talks about cartridge.

942
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:14.039
Yeah, they're saying it's cartridge based, which makes sense. Yeah, I

943
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:16.480
heard. Uh it's it's a little
less powerful than PS four is the one,

944
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:21.239
Like they're so this this says it
runs on some version of Nvidio,

945
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:25.800
tigray, that stuff. That stuff
seems like the least certain aspect of this

946
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:29.880
whole thing. Yeah, yeah,
like they so Digital Foundry, which is

947
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:31.440
part of your Gamer, posted a
separate article just about that chip, and

948
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:35.119
even they said, like, might
that might not actually be the chip?

949
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:37.960
Like maybe it's the next generation Tiger
that's not out yet that they're basing this

950
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:43.760
on. But but they seem to
be firm on the just like that chip

951
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:47.599
set in general, that company that
that style. Yeah, but like there's

952
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:52.800
a lot of detail in that article
about managing your expectations for how powerful this

953
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:54.400
thing's going to be. Like if
they make it sound like it super powerful,

954
00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:58.719
yeah, that's not that's not what
Nintendo does. It doesn't make sense

955
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:00.719
for them to and also it would
be very hard for them to do that.

956
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:04.960
In a hand out factor they mentioned
some examples, like they basically make

957
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:07.559
it sound like that that thing could
run games at ten ADP between thirty and

958
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.480
sixty depending on the games, like
for some recent games, not games that

959
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:14.239
are not yet out. Sure like
it is it is fairly modest from a

960
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:16.719
power perspective, No problem with that. It sounds fine, But Nintendo like

961
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:21.920
better than a three D S Nintendo
squeezes blood from stones, but that stuff,

962
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:23.559
like, it's incredible what they do
with hardware that they have. So

963
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:28.400
I mean, I look at this
as you know, unifying down to one

964
00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:31.679
platform is great because I'm tired of
having to get two platforms to get all

965
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:36.199
of Nintendo's output. So having that
stuff like Okay, buy one platform,

966
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:38.159
you'll get all of Nintendo's games.
Yep. Yeah. The idea that like

967
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:42.559
every game that they make could be
something that they put folk exact effort.

968
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:45.920
Every one of their teams is going
to make games for this device, I

969
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:50.440
think is you know that's powerful,
yes, as opposed to like this kind

970
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:52.280
of split catalog where you're like,
Okay, well you know, I want

971
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.599
some of these WEU games. I
want some of these three DS games,

972
00:56:54.599 --> 00:57:00.559
Like you know, those are weird
choices. There's expensive choices. I'm I'm

973
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:02.239
gonna get a prettier Monster Hunter and
I'm gonna be able to play it on

974
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:05.960
a TV and I'm happy. I
mean, yeah, Monster Hunter is a

975
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:07.599
weird one because it goes where the
installed base is. Right, So like

976
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:10.280
three DS is huge, but it
who's to say whether this thing is going

977
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:14.639
to be equally huge, But well, yeah, I guess it was.

978
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:17.280
It was PSP then three DS,
Yeah, we one, Yeah, they

979
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:21.159
did tree. Yeah, they always
those games go where the Yeah there was

980
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:23.239
a three one that they had played
as well. I mean a lot of

981
00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:25.519
that comes down to Japan, you
know, like a lot of it is

982
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:29.519
just how much this thing is and
how much they build it, as this

983
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:30.800
is a new three DS versus the
society. I think, you know,

984
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:35.280
the Monster Hunter makes sense on the
handheld because of the way people play games

985
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:40.199
in Japan, whereas like the console
market is not that much of a factor.

986
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:44.960
Yeah. There these days it is
kind of becoming like less mainstream more

987
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:49.840
of a of a niche. There's
a couple more points about the rollout of

988
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:52.239
this thing in the story. I'm
just gonna read these quotes. Finally,

989
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:55.800
we've heard from one source that NX
Planning has recently moved up a gear within

990
00:57:55.920 --> 00:58:00.320
Nintendo ahead of the consoles and veiling, which is currently slated for September.

991
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:04.119
TGS is also in such I don't
I don't know if those two things would

992
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:07.360
coincide or not. Is not the
Yeah, they normally don't treig on TGS.

993
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:10.000
They could have an event like they
could the week after, or direct

994
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:14.840
could be timed around that stuff.
Maybe. Yeah. And then they also

995
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:19.880
say after the confused pr fiasco of
the WU launched, the company is already

996
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.679
settling on a simple marketing message for
n X of being able to take your

997
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:27.199
games with you on the go.
Yeah. So the idea that being seamless

998
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:30.559
is awesome because I love that idea
with the Vita and cross play, and

999
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:32.800
sometimes it worked all right. I
remember Rogue Legacy was pretty good that way,

1000
00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:36.639
but always having to make sure like
you know, you got to really

1001
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:37.840
read over that thing, like okay, I'm not overwriting my current thing,

1002
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:40.880
like I could literally just pick it
up and take it on the bus perfect

1003
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:44.920
even even something like like I've played
a lot of crypt of the Necrod Answer

1004
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:46.800
between PS four and Vita. But
yeah, they're like like, oh crap,

1005
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:50.639
I left the house without remembering to
go sync my saved from the PS

1006
00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:52.400
four Oh well, yeah, it's
never been seamless like this sounds like it

1007
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:55.039
could potentially be seen. I mean
like literally all the stuff will live on

1008
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:59.320
the handheld. So yeah, and
I'm in a position where I'm not on

1009
00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:02.239
a bus, like I don't have
that many opportunities to play a handheld system

1010
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:06.440
that isn't me you know, I've
been playing Rhythm Heaven sitting in front of

1011
00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:09.159
my PC, so like here's this
big, great monitor and I'm fucking hunched

1012
00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:13.679
over this three DS. Uh.
So the idea of being able to play

1013
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:15.400
all these games and you know,
play them on the TV, Like that's

1014
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:20.880
super appealing to me, because yeah, I don't want to. I don't

1015
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:22.119
want to, hunch, I don't
want to play games in bed, not

1016
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:29.119
video games anyway. So yeah,
I think this, this is a this

1017
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:32.119
has always sounded like a smart move
from them, with with the direction that

1018
00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:36.920
this stuff has been been heading.
So yeah, a good way to play

1019
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:39.320
to their strengths. And yeah,
definitely simplify their offering. Yeah, definitely,

1020
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:44.159
that's that's all exciting. And then
their second platform becomes phones. Yeah,

1021
00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:46.920
you know in a way where they're
kind of well, I mean I

1022
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:54.199
should have been talking specifically about their
games crossing, see what that animal crossing

1023
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:58.719
is going to be? Yeah,
right, But yeah, speaking of that

1024
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:02.880
stuff, I had to I really
felt like I should hold my tongue back

1025
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:06.760
when the Pokemon Go stuff was first
blowing up because there was so much snark

1026
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:07.960
out there, like when it became
the biggest thing in the world. Yeah.

1027
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:10.159
Yeah, from people going like,
oh, good job Nintendo, like

1028
01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:13.840
you know, shunning phones for so
long, Look what happens when you actually

1029
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:15.079
make a game, and like the
whole time, I'm going like, no,

1030
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:17.159
no, I didn't make that game. Yeah, talking about. But

1031
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:21.480
I felt like, I whatever,
that's like needlessly pantic. I don't I'm

1032
01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:25.880
gonna get into stupid Twitter arguments with
people. But apparently the investment world affused

1033
01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:30.920
a tip. Yeah we're two there
you go. You should go be an

1034
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:32.159
analyst, right, because someone needs
to be able to like, hey,

1035
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:36.480
idiots, Michael Packard, we're coming
for you. Well, I felt insane

1036
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:38.760
because my mom texted me, you
know, like, go was that phenomenon

1037
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:42.199
that people that don't even follow games
text you about. My mom was like,

1038
01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:44.880
yeah, I've been hearing about this
thing. I heard Nintendo's stock is

1039
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:46.320
flying up? Should I invest in
them? And I was like, well,

1040
01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:50.480
they don't make that game. And
she sent me links yea from these

1041
01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:53.400
websites saying like oh Nintendo socks.
I know it did bloated, but I

1042
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:57.000
didn't know how to explain her like, no, they don't make that game.

1043
01:00:57.039 --> 01:00:59.519
They own like thirty two percent of
that company or something like, I

1044
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:01.880
don't know why their stock. Also, just as a general investment tip,

1045
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:07.039
like if she's hearing about how the
stock price is soaring, that's not the

1046
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:10.000
time to invest time. Yeah,
that you should buy that stock. But

1047
01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:14.000
yeah, I felt that's like that
shouldn't be happening, Like their stock shouldn't

1048
01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:16.119
be going out there. Their stock
price more than doubled after that thing.

1049
01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:22.199
They were bigger than Sony Google that
their market capital ttician Yes, was bigger

1050
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:24.239
than than the entirety of Sony for
a while. But then yeah, they

1051
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:30.239
they messaged investors on Friday, I
believe it was. Yeah, they basically

1052
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:31.400
came out and then set the record
straight and they were like, hey,

1053
01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:36.159
we don't make this game. We
only get a portion of the proceeds.

1054
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:38.039
Yeah. They were just like,
our forecast is not going to change this.

1055
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:42.880
The expected revenue from this game was
already factored into our forecasts, so

1056
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.159
you kind of know what we have
going on. And then yeah, so

1057
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:49.000
the stock has fallen dramatically, but
it's still quite a bit higher than it

1058
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:52.119
was before all this stuff happened.
In terms of brand, it's still you

1059
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:54.960
know, it's they've got Pokemon games
coming out this year, and I'm sure

1060
01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:59.039
they'll sell way more now. It's
yeah, it's that they totally don't You

1061
01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:01.519
don't think I don't. It moves
the needle pretty yeah, I bet,

1062
01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:06.440
I bet there's like some kind of
extra renewed interest people are talking about Pokemon

1063
01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:08.239
more than they maybe ever have.
Yeah, Like that's got to help when

1064
01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:10.800
they've got two new Pokemon games coming
out. I feel like the people,

1065
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:15.079
like the widespread phenomenon of Pokemon Go
seems like so tapped into the nostalgia of

1066
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:19.199
original Pokemon that this would be a
great time for them to put out an

1067
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:23.239
easy way to play red and Blue, like this new one with you know,

1068
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:25.519
like, hey, I love Pablo, don't get me wrong. Yeah,

1069
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:30.840
Populo is amazing, but it's not
fucking Squirtle and charming. It's not

1070
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:34.400
the fucking original ones that you know
that those people were. I bet.

1071
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.440
I feel like if someone were to
pick up a modern Pokemon game having only

1072
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:42.159
played that first game and and not
and not really stuck with it, but

1073
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:47.239
then playing Pokemon, go get it
and go like Pokemon it's mechanically too dense

1074
01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:51.519
in some ways, it hasn't changed
that much. Gameplay wise, it's changed

1075
01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:52.440
that much. It hasn't changed,
I think. But I also think like

1076
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:57.639
people don't remember that those games,
Like we're fucking like there was a lot

1077
01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:00.320
going on, and that's true,
that's true, and I just don't know

1078
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:04.000
that. Well, maybe it'll sell
more, but I don't know that those

1079
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:07.119
people will will walk away from its
satisfied customers. Yeah. Also, I

1080
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:10.320
still think a lot of the the
momentum behind Go is down to people's first

1081
01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:15.119
like major experience with AAR and GEO
cashing and stuff and like's like incredibly novel.

1082
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:17.559
Pokemon is obviously like the X factor
there that makes people drawn to it.

1083
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:21.360
It's a social in a way that
like this three DS game will definitely

1084
01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:22.920
not be. But yeah, it's
those elements that are unique to Go that

1085
01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:28.079
are yeah, that are what are
drawn people that. Why are people obsessed

1086
01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:31.119
with this? The mimic you the
have you seen those? People are obsessed

1087
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:36.480
with the the new Pokemon that dresses
up like Pikachu. It's like some internet

1088
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:38.679
phenomenon. But no one's talking about
Poplio. Everyone hates Poplio. Populo is

1089
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:44.440
great. Everyone loves Poplo and I
love loves this stupids Poplio Pikachu rip off.

1090
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:50.480
Show me people that no one hates
pop Google maybe pab I was about

1091
01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:52.840
to google. I can't do that, Yeah, because people whom can't see

1092
01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:57.719
that suff Yeah. Hey, but
that owl with the leaf bow ties I

1093
01:03:57.800 --> 01:03:59.559
was cool too, Yes, No, nothing, all three of them are

1094
01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:05.360
nothing. Wrong with that strong uh
strong showing from the new Pokemon. God

1095
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:10.920
help us. We have to talk
about Sonic. Do we the the Hedgehog

1096
01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:15.480
that it looks all right? That
stream? Did you watch it? Tell

1097
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:19.760
me about I ended up turning it
on while I was driving home, uh,

1098
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:24.320
and just listening to it as I
guess it was a crush forty is

1099
01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:27.519
the name of the band that's it's
a guy guitar player. You know,

1100
01:04:27.559 --> 01:04:29.400
you worked on a lot of the
music. They do a lot of the

1101
01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:36.119
vocal music for the Sonic games.
Uh, it's rough. Yeah, there

1102
01:04:36.519 --> 01:04:40.320
was a stage show. There was
a stage show. That whole thing was

1103
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:43.119
like some multi hour thing. I
think it happened at comic cons like around

1104
01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:46.360
comic Yeah, and they charged people
to get into this thing. Uh so

1105
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:54.760
it's tied to like an anniversary.
Yeah it was, and so they ran

1106
01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:57.719
through. They had a lot of
stage events. Didn't involved them announcing two

1107
01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:01.840
games, uh, and like announcing
like hello, kiddie mash ups a bunch

1108
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:06.119
of other stuff Sonic Sonic and Lego
Dimensions. Yeah right, they're already announced

1109
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:14.199
that. This was them showing the
gameplay, which yeah, there was a

1110
01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:17.480
full long infomercial break where they were
just spending time talking about pizza roles,

1111
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:24.719
and it was just like Sonic that
there's some overlap there, Yes, marketing

1112
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:30.000
synergy, I like both yeah,
uhnzz yeah that whole thing. The audio

1113
01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:31.480
was real, I mean whatever like
that at some point, like you know,

1114
01:05:31.559 --> 01:05:34.880
harping on the production whatever. Fucking
putting on big live shows is hard.

1115
01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:38.880
Uh, Shit's gonna go wrong.
Uh. And a lot of it

1116
01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:42.519
did with the audio of that stream
for a lot of it. But it

1117
01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:47.360
was just like watching this crowd of
people sitting there, watching these two dudes

1118
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:51.880
on stage play these songs. I
was like, this is all so terrible.

1119
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:57.559
Songs are so off Sonic. How
to be led to the stage by

1120
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:01.199
someone else Sonic is not in a
position to dance. The person in the

1121
01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:04.960
Hello Kiddie outfit was able to fucking
get right out on stage. Didn't quite

1122
01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:09.239
line up the eyehole. Yeah,
must have gone wrong the Sonic outfit.

1123
01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:14.039
Uh that Yeah. Anyway, the
stream, there are people that have cut

1124
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:17.400
together like some of the shit show
moments of that thing. It's not worth

1125
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:23.159
getting into because whatever reminded me of
the Twitch con rave at times. How

1126
01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:26.320
about that, except there were more
people there. I guess I've said,

1127
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:28.639
all right, well let's talk about
the games. There are games that came

1128
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:30.519
out of this. Yeah, yeah, one of them. I guess this

1129
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:33.679
is officially what they're calling it,
Project Sonic twenty seventeen. It was just

1130
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:39.719
Project twenty seventeen. It appears to
be a follow up to Sonic Generations,

1131
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:47.760
where they're taking same team Modern Sonic
and Classic Sonic and putting them in the

1132
01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:53.519
same game, which Classic Sonic is
the chubby one and he's got black eyes.

1133
01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:57.440
I think Modern Sonic, I want
to say, has the long legs

1134
01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:00.559
and he's got green around the black. I feel like in order to pull

1135
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:04.960
that sort of stuff, like you
know, maybe there's Sonic lore I missed

1136
01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:09.679
at some point, but I feel
like if they wanted to make that distinction

1137
01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:11.800
at some point and put them in
the same game, and I know they

1138
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:15.079
probably justify it with their universe fucking
weird shit, but like they should have

1139
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:18.760
just taken a mega man X like
approach to that stuff and had like a

1140
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:25.360
more solid break where like more than
just the character design change. Yeah yeah,

1141
01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:28.239
yeah, because instead it's just like
here's Sonic and Sonic and you're like,

1142
01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:30.880
okay, one looks different one like
the one they call Classic Sonic looks

1143
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:36.320
like shit and it's just like they
made it polygonal, but it's not.

1144
01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:41.400
It's not capturing the fucking art of
original fucking Sonic on the Genesis that well,

1145
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:44.000
you're like, oh, check it
out, we made Sonic and garbage

1146
01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:47.599
Sonic. Those are names I can
get down with. Yeah, it's just

1147
01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:54.400
fucking whatever. Who like, I
don't actually care so much about any of

1148
01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:58.280
that stuff because it's a Sonic the
Hedgehog game. Yeah, I mean,

1149
01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:00.280
it's it's the team that made Colors
in Generation, which seem like the leader

1150
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:05.719
were element Sonic games were We're better
than most, but better than most is

1151
01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:09.880
a fairly low bar in the world
of Sonic the Hedgehog, and I feel

1152
01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:13.400
like it's just at some at times, it seems like they just keep redoubling

1153
01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:18.560
their efforts to make you forget why
you liked those original Sonic games in the

1154
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:21.800
first place. Yeah, well that
games out at the end of next year.

1155
01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:25.119
When you've got a guy on stage
talking about like, I'm the guy

1156
01:08:25.159 --> 01:08:27.800
that runs the Twitter account, Do
you like what I'm like, like,

1157
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:31.479
No, wow, No, I
do, not, sir interesting anyway,

1158
01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:34.560
Yeah, the other game, Yeah, if you want to remember you're nostalgia

1159
01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:40.359
for Sonic Sonic Mania is for you. I guess that looks all right.

1160
01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:46.319
That looks like an old fucking looked
all right? Did Yes? It was

1161
01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:54.039
you know way no, No,
it was weird, yeah playing it,

1162
01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:56.399
Yeah, let's play an old flow
weird. But when they've announced it,

1163
01:08:56.479 --> 01:08:59.000
just like the announce Sonic Mania,
you had people going like, that's a

1164
01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:02.880
Tonic bring back, Yeah, Sonic
four. Amazing. It didn't look as

1165
01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:09.079
true to the classic Sonic Sonic Mania
does. Sonic Maia looks like Sonic Media,

1166
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:12.359
looks like a rambo. It looks
way beyond that, like fidelity,

1167
01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:15.039
wise, sharpness, there's a like
still pretty pict quality and stuff like.

1168
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:17.680
They are obviously trying to evoke that
stuff, but I'm not making it.

1169
01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:21.199
It is not just a modern Genesis
game. They've got the three characters the

1170
01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:25.239
Matter or the three playable characters the
Matter, and then it seems like they're

1171
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:28.840
ignoring all the stupid little you know, Pink Rabbit Friends or whatever, you

1172
01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:31.439
know, all those extended Sonic characters
that came with Adventure and beyond. I

1173
01:09:31.439 --> 01:09:33.920
mean, there's a bunch like a
classic Assonic game. There's a bunch of

1174
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:38.319
actual levels from the original games in
here. Yeah, from from one,

1175
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:41.600
two, three and Sonic CD.
So Christian White has working on this and

1176
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:44.920
he did some of the port work. Yeah, or like Sonic CD,

1177
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:46.880
like when those versions came out relatively
recent. Okay, it was because that

1178
01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:54.039
guy and Simon Tomley are the two
names dropped in this article. And it's

1179
01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:58.840
like people that have been, you
know, well well known in that specific

1180
01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:01.199
scene for caring about the classic Sonic
I suppose Okay, I think that's how

1181
01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:05.439
that goes. Ok Yeah, they're
playing to the bass here is what you're

1182
01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:10.399
saying. What bass? It's like
what Because watching that stream they announced the

1183
01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:14.760
Sonic Mania stuff and then then they
kept dropping those and if you like modern

1184
01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:17.199
Sonic, we might have something for
you. It was like this mind blowing

1185
01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:21.199
thing, like there's a split in
the thing like modern Sonic classics, Like

1186
01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:25.199
what the fuck is wrong with you
people? I'm sure there are some active

1187
01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:28.359
message words that debate the stuff,
surely, Yeah, I bet, uh,

1188
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:30.159
yeah, I bet. It's It
was just it was crazy to see

1189
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:35.000
Sonic on display and being celebrated in
a way that seemed completely out of step

1190
01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:41.239
with like the actual quality of the
games over the years. It was like

1191
01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:45.319
the celebration of this thing that's been
like mostly shit. It was like,

1192
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:49.039
yeah, fucking twenty five years of
Sonic. Three of those first three years

1193
01:10:49.079 --> 01:10:51.920
were all right, and then there
was like one in the middle that maybe

1194
01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:55.600
some of you could justify liking,
kind of like the first level of that

1195
01:10:55.680 --> 01:10:59.680
Dreamcast game. Yes, the first
was all. That was first level.

1196
01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:01.319
You were like, man, he
is going fast. At least most of

1197
01:11:01.399 --> 01:11:03.359
that first level, I don't know, but by the end of it is

1198
01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:06.159
like when you're running into the camera
and the whales behind, you're like,

1199
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:09.479
that whale looks good, but this
is not even a video game anymore.

1200
01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:14.319
Yeah, uh yeah. Anyway,
Sonic Medea has got they're like remixed versions

1201
01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:17.119
of stages from those old games.
They've also got some like totally new zones

1202
01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:23.159
and stuff that's not like a new
attack like a dash or whatever the hell

1203
01:11:23.239 --> 01:11:26.119
this this seems like a like a
Mega Man nine kind of situation. Yeah,

1204
01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:29.960
they're really like leaning into there's maybe
a little more elaborate than that.

1205
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:32.520
Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. The drop dash looks almost like a

1206
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:35.680
butt stomp into into a roll kind
of. Yeah, it's just like preloading

1207
01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:39.800
the spend Ash. Yeah, I
don't know, I don't know he was

1208
01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:43.159
there and playable. Oh wow,
yeah, yeah, that's out Believe next

1209
01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:45.479
screen, yeah, Spring, and
then the next the other game is out

1210
01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:49.880
Holiday next year. That's an next
game. Really Yeah, the Project Sonic

1211
01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:53.640
like the end of that trailer,
So I joined the Resistance, which is

1212
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:58.439
like the fucking most amazing fucking words
you get attached to the end of a

1213
01:11:58.560 --> 01:12:03.159
fucking Sonic trailer. And so the
TV show is about yeah, yeah,

1214
01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:06.760
right, yep, yeah, uh
so maybe that fits right in. But

1215
01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:10.760
then yeah, it was Xbox one, p S four PC and n X

1216
01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:14.760
Oh it's on okay, yeah,
right, what are we resisting? Then?

1217
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:19.800
If it's on doctor doctor, gotcha
Eggman if you will, Eggy Wait,

1218
01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:24.920
which is it? If it had
been they clarified it recently. Nick

1219
01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:29.000
is like his government name, and
then Eggman is his nickname. Egg Man

1220
01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:30.640
is what they called him in Japan. Yeah. I don't know about the

1221
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:34.439
split, just on point around the
Dreamcast they win with egg Man worldwide.

1222
01:12:34.520 --> 01:12:36.920
Right, so Robotnick is his Christian
name? Is what you're saying, Yes,

1223
01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:43.479
yes, he was born that is
his name. Okay. Eggman is

1224
01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:46.239
just something people saying just good to
know. Now, do you do you

1225
01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:49.000
think that they should have gone a
similar route with street Fighter at some point,

1226
01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:53.560
like having these characters have different names
in different territories. Do you think

1227
01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:56.800
they should have squared it up and
just made that's what I mean around the

1228
01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:58.960
world. They happened a final fantasy, you know, where they had to

1229
01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:02.439
like finally set the record straight on
which is which. Yeah, I'm glad

1230
01:13:02.479 --> 01:13:05.199
that we've Yeah, it's across the
board like pretty much the same now,

1231
01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:10.239
so like it was way confusing,
did they actually? I think so?

1232
01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:13.359
Okay, so if you buy a
Japanese street Fighter five, it's not Vega

1233
01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:16.000
anymore. I'm pretty sure. I'm
not positive. I don't know. Everybody

1234
01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:19.720
just calls them Dictator or you know, yeah, any of the character stuff.

1235
01:13:20.319 --> 01:13:23.399
Yeah, I guess it's God,
you know, I don't fucking know

1236
01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:27.199
now, Yeah, that would be
news to me. If they had unified

1237
01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:30.439
it. I don't. I don't
know that they did, but shit I

1238
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:31.399
didn't. Yeah, I don't know
for sure. Yeah, oh my god.

1239
01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:35.560
Okay, street Fighter street Fighter is
definitely esports. If they're like weird

1240
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:40.239
pet names for all the characters,
like that's that's that's that's only it's only

1241
01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:45.520
those ones because there's international confusion around
which one. When you say Vega,

1242
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:48.159
who are you talking about? Right? Uh, everybody knows what pottam means.

1243
01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:53.159
I feel like they should have fixed
that problem right around Street Fighter four.

1244
01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:57.119
They should have just gone with the
Japanese names totally. That would have

1245
01:13:57.159 --> 01:14:00.359
been the time. Not calling him
Bison would be weird though. Yeah,

1246
01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:05.399
just that's why you make our names
the real names, and then you're good.

1247
01:14:06.199 --> 01:14:10.039
Sure it wasn't. It wasn't the
problem originally that you couldn't call the

1248
01:14:10.159 --> 01:14:14.159
boxer they were. They were a
little afraid of the idea of a Mike

1249
01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:18.319
because of a Mike Tyson thing,
which I think of why they rotated a

1250
01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:25.960
marine in the first place. Uh. Speaking of kind of unexpected retro game

1251
01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:29.800
announcements, there's a pac Man Championship
Edition two. Yeah. Yeah, that

1252
01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:31.680
officially got announced. I think got
it got rated at one point, or

1253
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:34.399
the trademark got out or something like
the name, but the name had been

1254
01:14:34.399 --> 01:14:36.920
floating around a few weeks ago,
but they officially came out. And so

1255
01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:41.359
here's trailer. It looks good,
looks pretty good. Games are great,

1256
01:14:41.399 --> 01:14:45.359
Giant Ghosts, it's good Giant ghosts
ghosts. Ye, so yeah, I

1257
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:46.720
couldn't tell from the trailer if that's
like a straight up boss fight or if

1258
01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:49.680
that was more of a cut scene
kind of thing. But there are there

1259
01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:53.720
is a fucking there's a ghost almost
the size of the board in the in

1260
01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:57.800
that thing. And there were shots
where pac Man like leaves the board and

1261
01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:00.159
like like slams unto the ghost in
space some stuff. It also seems like,

1262
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:02.600
you know, you know how the
mazes would change when you would eat

1263
01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:05.159
the fruits and stuff like that.
It seems like like now like you'll see

1264
01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:09.399
the amazing like coming out of the
background of slamming the new one out of

1265
01:15:09.439 --> 01:15:11.600
the way and you're kind of into
this new spot and stuff like this just

1266
01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:16.680
sounds it looks really man. Also, I really appreciate that they didn't just

1267
01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:20.079
call the ceed X two. Yeah, they went back to Championship edition,

1268
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:25.720
added to two, and then that
leaves the door open for more d X

1269
01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:28.600
version of this. Yeah, they're
gonna double the clock speed. I am.

1270
01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:31.520
I am constantly like stunned at how
well they have handled the pac Man

1271
01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:36.159
franchise and revitalized it periodically, keeping
it true to the concept of like way

1272
01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:40.359
back then like CE and the cd
X were amazing games, Like two fifty

1273
01:15:40.359 --> 01:15:45.479
six is really good to the New
Adventures. Yeah, yeah, Drew,

1274
01:15:45.560 --> 01:15:47.399
you can't say that without doing the
pac Man voice. What you're talking about,

1275
01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:53.439
do the Second Genesis Pacman voice.
They just they've just been so smart

1276
01:15:53.479 --> 01:15:55.880
with it, you know, like
like those those two downloadable games came in

1277
01:15:55.960 --> 01:15:58.359
at just the right time in the
right format, and then like two fifty

1278
01:15:58.359 --> 01:16:02.079
six capitalized on they found a really
great way to take the Pacman mechanics and

1279
01:16:02.079 --> 01:16:05.239
put them into non pac Man games, because those games kind of aren't pac

1280
01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:11.199
Man anymore, but the concepts are
still. Yeah, the concepts are there

1281
01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:13.560
where you're like, you know,
yeah, those base things are there,

1282
01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:15.960
but it's not about like, hey, I'm gonna try to play for as

1283
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:17.640
long as i can perfect game.
You know what. Whatever your goals were

1284
01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:20.760
in original pac Man, they can't
all be pac Land. You know.

1285
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:25.800
It's true. There have been some
real fucking bad pac Man games over the

1286
01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:29.840
years. Which one did you have
the hang glider in that that was pack

1287
01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:34.960
Land? Probably? Probably, oh, yeah, that might have been.

1288
01:16:35.079 --> 01:16:41.760
Yeah, they did that puzzle game
Higher Higher, that's what they say during

1289
01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:49.840
the I believe you I want maybe
we should build that ratio of like good

1290
01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:55.560
to bad pac Man games. Sonic
the Hedgehog suggests there like super classics like

1291
01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:58.600
pac Man at his best is better
than Sonic the Hedgehog at his Best?

1292
01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:03.880
Are you no doubt? Are you
suggest a ranking of pac Man professor pac

1293
01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:08.319
Man number one? It's a game? What more do you need? Hanley

1294
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:12.840
Man? Do we count the ramhacks
and bootlegs and stuff in the arcades pac

1295
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:17.159
Man in the title pucke? No? All right, well, I still

1296
01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:23.520
want Namco to expand their Champion Edition
stuff too. More of their franchises they

1297
01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:28.119
did like Legions and X were not
good game, and they tried that with

1298
01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:31.159
like Centipede, they did some XBLA
that's not new version that that thing was

1299
01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:36.199
the Yeah, the stainless steel games
like Warlords and Centipede, those were fucking

1300
01:17:36.359 --> 01:17:41.640
terrible. Yeah, Dick Doug Championship
Edition. Yeah, I think there's something

1301
01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:45.199
to be said for, like,
let's pump up a thousand fucking poo because

1302
01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:48.960
it wants like like some of the
ideas of pac Man Championship editions set into

1303
01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:53.640
dig dug or like rally X.
You probably do Bosconian, you know,

1304
01:17:53.880 --> 01:17:58.640
like there's just they've always handled their
classic franchises really well, because like,

1305
01:17:58.680 --> 01:18:00.760
way before they were doing all the
mid Way Arcade collections and all the XBLA

1306
01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:04.960
stuff Namco Museum yea for PlayStation one, they were putting out those collections.

1307
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:08.119
That was awesome back then, they
were doing that way before. Yeah.

1308
01:18:08.119 --> 01:18:11.600
The thing I would say though,
is that those games that were rereleased in

1309
01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:15.279
Namco Museum are the games they just
keep rereleasing over and over again. Yeah,

1310
01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:18.520
I feel like there are games in
the Namcoke catalog that don't get rereleased

1311
01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:20.800
as all. Like they just put
those four games out on PS four,

1312
01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:23.840
right, and yeah, there's like
here you go, here's another way to

1313
01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:28.159
buy dig Dug all right, Yeah, Okay, they made a there's a

1314
01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:30.920
Galagha ticket redemption machine that looks like
a big I think it's I think it

1315
01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:34.560
may have come out on iOS also
or something, but it was it's like,

1316
01:18:35.479 --> 01:18:39.800
you're it's like Galaga challenging stages boiled
down onto this big you know,

1317
01:18:39.960 --> 01:18:44.119
have you seen like the Flappy Bird
Kaid cabinets that are just like like jump,

1318
01:18:44.279 --> 01:18:46.319
Yeah, it's it's one of those. Wow. But for Galaga with

1319
01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:49.640
this giant Joystick. I saw it. It's super weird, but there's a

1320
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:51.880
mother ship you fight at the end
of it. It just looked crazy.

1321
01:18:53.159 --> 01:18:56.079
Does it use like the art styles
Gaga does? And if you get the

1322
01:18:56.119 --> 01:18:59.560
mother's ship you get like double tickets, So like that almost looks like a

1323
01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:02.199
base for if you were to make
a new like a Galaga champions Yeah,

1324
01:19:02.239 --> 01:19:06.479
because, like I know, Legions
wasn't amazing, but like I would give

1325
01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:10.359
one of my toes for a really
good Gallagher remaker. Yeah, some kind

1326
01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:12.840
of Galaga Legiance had like its own
art style and as other stuff going on,

1327
01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:15.960
it was kind of a different and
they did the like classic art style

1328
01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:18.079
stuff and it's still just played weirdly. Yeah, it wasn't terrible. No,

1329
01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:21.319
it wasn't terrible. The second one
was better than the first, thank

1330
01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:25.039
Yeah, but it was nowhere near
as good as like the way they did

1331
01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:28.199
Pac Man the Championship stuff. Yeah. The game's coming out in September.

1332
01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:31.560
Also cool. That's that's alarmingly soon. Yeah, that's September. Sounds like

1333
01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:34.680
the far flung future. But shit, man close like a little over a

1334
01:19:34.720 --> 01:19:38.920
month, you know what, You
know what, Madden will be out sooner

1335
01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:41.680
than you think Yeah, you're right, Madden is coming. That's why I'm

1336
01:19:41.680 --> 01:19:46.680
fitting in a vacation while I can, because Madden returns for good month or

1337
01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:49.039
so. Oh yeah, totally.
Yeah. No, when Madden comes back,

1338
01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:51.840
it's I mean, you're going on
the competitive circuit. Yeah, I'm

1339
01:19:53.159 --> 01:19:58.800
e Madden all the way. Indeed, all right, for our next story,

1340
01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:02.239
I am going to throw to our
chief Chicago correspondent, Jeff Gersman,

1341
01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:04.640
all right, live from the Windy
City. Yeah, that's right. I'm

1342
01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:08.199
out here in Chicago. It's going
on. No one can see me because

1343
01:20:08.239 --> 01:20:10.640
they can't see this is all rigged, a fake, But here I am

1344
01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:15.199
in Chicago. Jeff. What's it
like where? Well, it's crazy out

1345
01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:19.119
here. Video games are going to
be developed in Chicago. Again. Well

1346
01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:26.079
that's another great question. So this
Adam Boys, formerly of PlayStation their third

1347
01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:30.920
party production. They're the vice president
of publisher relations. It's the crash bandicoot.

1348
01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:36.399
Sure guy, right, Nope,
nope, he left. Sony relatively

1349
01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:42.279
recently said he was looking to focus
on getting back into game development, and

1350
01:20:42.359 --> 01:20:45.920
then he went and sign up with
Iron Galaxy out in Chicago. Yeah,

1351
01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:48.720
so I guess maybe they're gonna make
games. No there, Yeah, he's

1352
01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:54.880
going to be the CEO of Iron
Galaxy, which we had Dave Lang of

1353
01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:59.520
Iron Galaxy on this podcast a couple
of weeks ago, former CEO now founder

1354
01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:02.359
and see three po see three pos. Isn't say that on the business cards,

1355
01:21:02.399 --> 01:21:04.840
I imagine, I don't. That
doesn't sound like a real title to

1356
01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:09.720
me, but he tweeted it.
He didn't. The CEO a CPO,

1357
01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:13.239
yes, a CPO yes. Yeah. Chelsea Blasco has been with the company

1358
01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:15.560
for a long time is now the
chief product officer. Uh yeah. So

1359
01:21:17.159 --> 01:21:20.399
that's all business ramblings and sit shifts
and all that sort of stuff. But

1360
01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:24.920
I think the upshot of it is
is a lot like what what Lank said

1361
01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:28.000
when he was here talking about,
you know, kind of other opportunities for

1362
01:21:28.079 --> 01:21:30.640
the company. Is it sounds like
that they've got, you know, this

1363
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:32.640
kind of work that they do all
the time for kind of porting games to

1364
01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:38.119
either platforms or you know, kind
of coming in on games and working on

1365
01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:41.239
them for a while. The other
people's games that need you know, they're

1366
01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:44.319
yeah, the mercenaries of the y, they need commandos. They need someone

1367
01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:46.439
to just air drop onto a game
and six it or whatever it is.

1368
01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:49.880
Uh yeah, and that's that's been
a big part of their business for the

1369
01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:55.640
eight years or so that they've been
around. And yeah, they've done a

1370
01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:58.399
few of their own games over the
years, and it sounds like they want

1371
01:21:58.439 --> 01:22:01.039
to grow that part of their business, and so Adam is coming in to

1372
01:22:01.119 --> 01:22:05.119
kind of lead or help lead the
charge on on that front. Uh.

1373
01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:10.000
And so there was announcement and you
know, the interview ran Adventure Beat today.

1374
01:22:10.319 --> 01:22:13.960
Uh. And it sounds like that
they've got games in the works that

1375
01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:17.119
are not announced, So they're they're
working on some stuff. I suspect this

1376
01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:20.199
means that you will see them try
to push into bigger things than they've been

1377
01:22:20.239 --> 01:22:24.479
doing in the past. If you
look at the games that had like the

1378
01:22:24.520 --> 01:22:28.239
Iron like Iron Galaxy published, it's
been you know, like stuff like Video

1379
01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:30.720
Ball just came out, smaller kind
of stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's

1380
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:34.119
been you know, like Recketeer,
Dive Kick, you know, caps Force,

1381
01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:36.880
this sort of stuff, some of
which they developed themselves, some of

1382
01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:41.239
which they partnered with people that were
developing it or you know, co developed

1383
01:22:41.560 --> 01:22:44.880
that sort of stuff. I think
what this will end up meaning is you

1384
01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:51.399
will probably see some bigger sized games
from them down the line, and you

1385
01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:56.880
know, like Adam's a guy that
in his position at Sony probably did a

1386
01:22:56.920 --> 01:23:00.319
lot of business deals and saw a
lot of numbers and knows a lot about

1387
01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:03.119
how that stuff works. Uh,
in a way that would probably be super

1388
01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:08.039
advantageous if you were suddenly on the
publisher side tried to do those deals from

1389
01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:12.640
the other end. So that's I
suspect that that's uh. You know,

1390
01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:15.960
they talk about leveraging their strengths and
stuff like that, like they I don't

1391
01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:18.960
know they've I su Yeah, like
I said, I think we'll see some

1392
01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:24.159
bigger things from them down the line. Well if the press photos they released

1393
01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:27.199
starting to go, those are bigger
things, right, they are poised to

1394
01:23:27.359 --> 01:23:30.800
take over the world. The wedding
photographers they hired for that thing to not

1395
01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:33.119
get enough money. I don't know
what they paid them. I don't know

1396
01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:38.119
what. It was amazing photos,
very top they found to get the skyline

1397
01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:41.359
shot that way. But man,
I've got a new wallpaper from my phone.

1398
01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:43.880
It's just a blown up image of
Dave Lank's face. Yeah, it's

1399
01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:45.840
a big doofy one with no hat. The best of the three, all

1400
01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:48.920
the three of them, is amazing. That is a really some mixtape cover

1401
01:23:49.079 --> 01:23:53.680
right there, they're the new Fujis. You can tell how proud of it

1402
01:23:54.279 --> 01:23:57.319
Lang is in that picture. He
knows if it's going to come out,

1403
01:23:57.399 --> 01:24:00.720
is exactly so happy he's done.
You can want to present see that.

1404
01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:03.359
Yeah. Uh yeah, so I
you know, I think I think that

1405
01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:06.199
this is a this is a smart
move for them, uh you know,

1406
01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:10.359
kind of having having known them for
a while and kind of knowing kind of

1407
01:24:10.359 --> 01:24:13.239
where their heads are at and kind
of what they're lining up to do,

1408
01:24:14.439 --> 01:24:17.279
what they're how they're they're kind of
thinking about it. It seems really smart.

1409
01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:20.560
Uh. I think. Yeah.
You saw some people, you know,

1410
01:24:20.880 --> 01:24:24.439
they were like, oh man,
going from PlayStation to some publisher,

1411
01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:28.399
Like that's a step down, Like, yeah, CEO not not when you're

1412
01:24:28.439 --> 01:24:30.960
running a coach. This is kind
of how it works is you get up

1413
01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:32.800
to a certain level of the big
company, then go run another company and

1414
01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:38.319
then you know, either you stay
there and do your thing or but that's

1415
01:24:38.359 --> 01:24:40.800
a huge resume builder of like hey, I've been a CEO of a company

1416
01:24:40.840 --> 01:24:44.359
of over one hundred employees, but
now let's come back in Yeah not a

1417
01:24:44.439 --> 01:24:46.520
C three po I mean yeah,
Either either to go run a small company

1418
01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:49.880
and make it huge, or then
you have CEO on your resume, Yeah,

1419
01:24:49.960 --> 01:24:53.319
and you go run a bigger coupital. You know, there's all kinds

1420
01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:56.039
of options from that. That's just
a you know, like from a career

1421
01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:59.039
angle, I think that that's that's
probably smart too. But but I think

1422
01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:02.680
from the business angle and the types
of products that it will that they'll kind

1423
01:25:02.720 --> 01:25:05.560
of grow to make, I think
that makes a lot of sense with where

1424
01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:09.319
they're at right now. I look
forward to seeing what those goofballs get up

1425
01:25:09.319 --> 01:25:12.239
to. Yeah, Yes, that'll
be fun to watch, for sure.

1426
01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:15.720
They that much is I think they'll
make they'll make it fun to watch one

1427
01:25:15.720 --> 01:25:19.520
way or the other. Indeed,
definitely. All right, last story I've

1428
01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:21.600
got it's there's not a lot else
to say here, but it's just a

1429
01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:26.880
little to follow up on the steam
item gambling stuff from last week. Cease

1430
01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:32.199
and desist letters went out to twenty
three mostly counterstrike gambling sites. Yeah,

1431
01:25:32.239 --> 01:25:36.199
and like one Dodo one, the
one that I used actually the ones man.

1432
01:25:36.359 --> 01:25:41.920
Yeah, I know, Okay,
so I've got I've got the letter

1433
01:25:41.960 --> 01:25:43.880
in front of me. But you
know, it's it's pretty standard stuff,

1434
01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:46.359
like it's they're they're they're following up
or they're following through on what they said

1435
01:25:46.359 --> 01:25:49.560
they could do. They're telling them
to cease and yes, also desist.

1436
01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:55.399
Yes, they asked those sites to
stop operating immediately. But three yeah,

1437
01:25:55.800 --> 01:25:58.800
jeez, that dude, the amount
of money that I have heard is tied

1438
01:25:58.880 --> 01:26:02.279
up in the world of cso item
gambling is unthinkable, is a legal cease

1439
01:26:02.319 --> 01:26:04.520
and assists kind of just like a
nice way of being like, hey,

1440
01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:09.479
why don't you be cool and take
this down? Or basically that it's like

1441
01:26:09.560 --> 01:26:11.640
going to court. It's that shot
across the valve of like, hey,

1442
01:26:12.239 --> 01:26:14.760
you can't do this, and we're
telling you to, not giving you a

1443
01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:16.279
chance, and before we go to
court, and if you stop, then

1444
01:26:16.319 --> 01:26:19.279
we're cool. Yeah okay, yeah, we are not going to sue you

1445
01:26:19.439 --> 01:26:23.399
yet, but if you don't stop
doing what we say you should stop doing

1446
01:26:23.439 --> 01:26:26.560
the warning shot. Yeah okay,
yeah yeah. Twitch has gotten on board

1447
01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:30.079
with the stuff too, like they
have also clamped down dramatically on this stuff,

1448
01:26:31.239 --> 01:26:33.720
like well after Valve did yeah they
yeah, they a way that like

1449
01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:38.760
they moved after like ceremonial or kind
of. Yeah, but they have banned

1450
01:26:38.840 --> 01:26:44.199
some streamers. Okay that we're involved
with the stuff. But they haven't really

1451
01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:46.119
said much about you know, why
or for how long or whatever. But

1452
01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:49.479
yeah, they just want people to
gamble in cheer points. Yes, yeah,

1453
01:26:53.159 --> 01:26:56.880
uh so yeah that that stuff seems
to be going away for real.

1454
01:26:57.159 --> 01:27:00.880
Well see I will. I saw
the list of sites that got this notification

1455
01:27:00.039 --> 01:27:03.399
and went and looked at a few
of them, and or maybe this was

1456
01:27:03.479 --> 01:27:06.159
before the season assist went out,
but I went and looked at a couple

1457
01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:11.359
of these sites last week, and
every single one of the sites I looked

1458
01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:14.479
at said like, we are not
shutting down. There's features that are probably

1459
01:27:14.520 --> 01:27:18.399
offline interesting, but we're bringing those
features back. Everything's fine, Do not

1460
01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:23.199
panic like it. It seemed like
very much thislike everything's gonna be cool.

1461
01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:25.800
We will keep doing what we're doing. Just we didn't need to make some

1462
01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:28.520
adjustments to be in line with what
Valve saying. But we're still going to

1463
01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:30.119
be here doing stuff, which I
don't know how much of that is like

1464
01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:33.039
legit, and how much of that
is like please don't withdraw then you have

1465
01:27:33.479 --> 01:27:39.520
from us because we can't actually cover
it, or because I meant they pay

1466
01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:43.560
out money right, or they pay
out other items. The DODA gambling stuff

1467
01:27:43.560 --> 01:27:45.079
I did just paid out other items. Yeah, but at that point,

1468
01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:47.680
like, I don't see what's so
wrong about it, But are they pay

1469
01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:53.199
out diamonds then you convert into you
walk to the store next door exactly.

1470
01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:56.880
Yeah, chinko thing still holds up. Yeah. I don't know what the

1471
01:27:57.359 --> 01:28:00.479
nature of that stuff is, but
it did seem like that of the sites

1472
01:28:00.479 --> 01:28:03.279
had postings saying like everything's fine.
Yeah, I wonder if they'll find a

1473
01:28:03.319 --> 01:28:05.479
way to circument that stuff. I
am. We have to keep an eye

1474
01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:10.000
on it. Uh, that twenty
three news sites will pop up, that's

1475
01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:14.520
true, right, exactly. That's
there's probably too much money involved in this

1476
01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:18.680
for to all go away completely.
Will set up in some weird territory and

1477
01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:21.880
try to try to keep it going
on the kind of Strike and Go island

1478
01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:27.359
set up on the Caymans or something. Counterstrike finds a way it always has.

1479
01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:32.159
Uh, that's it for news.
Let's do bladder check. I'm good?

1480
01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:35.319
Are wow? Really? Yeah?
And you drink most of that three

1481
01:28:35.359 --> 01:28:38.520
of these today? I'm good?
Jeez. Wow. You guys want to

1482
01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:41.640
just keep going, then sure,
let's keep going. Then let's three to

1483
01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:46.840
emails. Yeah, podcast at giant
bomb dot com is the email address.

1484
01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:50.279
Okay, where you send them?
All? Right? What's an email?

1485
01:28:50.279 --> 01:28:53.159
I gotta say it? Everything?
Is that like a snapchat? Just in

1486
01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:56.439
case people don't know, do I
snap it with words and permanent? I

1487
01:28:56.520 --> 01:28:59.199
send you pictures of my nude crotch
and then you read it on the air.

1488
01:28:59.439 --> 01:29:02.119
If you make wrong people mad and
Russia will take them from you.

1489
01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:08.279
And I need those emails. Give
them to the world topical. Very nice.

1490
01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:14.039
Yes, Jonathan from Sugarland's Texas writes
in sugar Land, Yeah, I'm

1491
01:29:14.119 --> 01:29:17.039
like, wow cool. Jeff has
mentioned Go Go thirteen a few times and

1492
01:29:17.119 --> 01:29:20.600
videos and podcasts. From what I
could tell, he really loved the NS

1493
01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:25.199
games. But have any of y'all
actually watched or read the series. I

1494
01:29:25.279 --> 01:29:29.880
started watching the series from the movie
to the anime TV series, and holy

1495
01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:32.800
shit, take James Bond, make
him a professional hit man and watch him

1496
01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:36.920
become a living three sixty no scope, Yeah, it's yeah. Every stuff

1497
01:29:38.039 --> 01:29:41.199
is fucking bananas, is like in
a good way. Like every single time

1498
01:29:41.239 --> 01:29:45.239
you see Duke Togo out doing dirt, it is always fucking the impossible shot

1499
01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:49.880
and he's got to go fucking spend
four hours getting a new gun made,

1500
01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:55.079
and while the guy's making the gun. Duke Togo's making love to a woman,

1501
01:29:55.479 --> 01:29:58.439
and then he gets the gun and
then goes and shoots the guy and

1502
01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:02.000
then it's over. It's just like
you thought the game was. Like the

1503
01:30:02.119 --> 01:30:06.079
game had. The game had some
some allusions to sex in it. At

1504
01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:09.840
the time, you were like,
fucking yeah, man, I'm like early

1505
01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:12.279
kind of rudimentary cuts scene type stuff, right, yeah, yeah, kind

1506
01:30:12.279 --> 01:30:14.800
of see. So that's moving together, yeah, and then gets dark.

1507
01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:17.680
He gets all his fucking health back. That's a really good name, Like

1508
01:30:17.960 --> 01:30:21.560
it's better than James Bond. There's
a live action goal Go movie that I

1509
01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:26.520
really want that I that I bought. It's it's unfortunate because the movie came

1510
01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:29.840
out on Blu Ray in Japan,
but that doesn't have the English dub on

1511
01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:31.680
it or subtitles or anything like that. From what I've seen, it's like

1512
01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:35.319
Charles Brown the last time it came
out in the US. It's this fucked

1513
01:30:35.399 --> 01:30:40.840
up transfer that just looks like dog
shit and just but I think I'm I'm

1514
01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:44.800
watching that one too. Yeah,
I bought it. I bought it off

1515
01:30:44.880 --> 01:30:47.439
eBay for bringing bring a lot of
money. So yeah, once I'm once,

1516
01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:49.359
I finally watch it. I'll bring
it in for you. Uh.

1517
01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:56.359
Yeah, there's been was it like
the Queen Bee? There's another like movie

1518
01:30:56.439 --> 01:31:00.279
length there, Like I think there's
like two movie length animated features, uh

1519
01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:01.640
and I watched both of those.
One was better than the other. I

1520
01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:05.640
forget which was which though, and
then the Yeah, there's a series also

1521
01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:11.800
which uh seems like it might be
pretty good too. To Duke Togo,

1522
01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:15.119
it's a raw motherfucker he looks at
too. Yeah. Yeah. One of

1523
01:31:15.159 --> 01:31:18.399
the one of the ones, the
one of the animated features is like at

1524
01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:21.720
one point he's fucking run around the
jungle and fucking's fighting. It's fucked up,

1525
01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:26.840
man, It's yeah, it's it's
there's kind of kind of nothing happens.

1526
01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:30.319
Also, like that's maybe the other
secret of some of this stuff is

1527
01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:32.720
like all of it seems very just
kind of like he's just gonna be silent

1528
01:31:32.920 --> 01:31:36.800
and he's gonna fucking get his gun
and he's gonna make his love and he's

1529
01:31:36.840 --> 01:31:42.479
gonna murder and and that's what he
took exactly. That's what he does.

1530
01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:45.800
It's just that over and over again
from what I can tell. And that's

1531
01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:47.000
all right, So you know what
you're signing up for Yeah, and they

1532
01:31:47.039 --> 01:31:53.760
are linked to deliver h Elliott from
Scotland. While looking at the history of

1533
01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:58.760
the awesome yet doomed Dreamcast, a
game came to my attention called Sega Gaga.

1534
01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:01.520
Yeah, a game so insane and
indicative of the state of Sega at

1535
01:32:01.560 --> 01:32:04.920
the time that it defies belief.
I wondered if any of you guys had

1536
01:32:04.960 --> 01:32:08.199
ever had the chance to play it
or have any memories of it, is

1537
01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:11.079
of its release and reception? Did
it come out here? It did not,

1538
01:32:11.359 --> 01:32:14.720
Okay. I bought a copy of
it, and it looks I looked

1539
01:32:14.720 --> 01:32:16.560
it up. It looks Yeah.
Second, guy, guys, is insane.

1540
01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:20.039
It's like exactly a fan RPG,
you know, kind of just just

1541
01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:26.600
like pulling together all of these references
to Sega past and present from your Segata

1542
01:32:26.680 --> 01:32:29.600
san Shiro's and I assume he's in
there. Uh. And what happened to

1543
01:32:29.640 --> 01:32:31.960
Alex Kid? Yeah? Yeah,
Kid in there? I believe. Yeah.

1544
01:32:32.319 --> 01:32:34.920
Like it just looked like the screenshots
just like just look like a mashup

1545
01:32:34.960 --> 01:32:38.560
of like, see what it is. It's a master up of all this

1546
01:32:38.600 --> 01:32:41.880
Sega stuff put into an RPG.
Uh. I think I talked about it

1547
01:32:41.920 --> 01:32:45.479
on the on the podcast before.
Yeah, somebody from Sega like translated that

1548
01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:48.920
stuff and sent it over to Game
Informer, and I put together a video

1549
01:32:49.079 --> 01:32:53.000
of like, you know, some
subtitled section of like Alex kidd oh wow

1550
01:32:53.960 --> 01:32:56.920
from that game. It's out there
on YouTube somewhere. But yeah, that

1551
01:32:57.000 --> 01:33:00.479
was my first experience with Sega guy. Yeah, I'll never heard of it,

1552
01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:02.119
and yeah, yeah, no,
when that game came out, it

1553
01:33:02.199 --> 01:33:04.439
was it was you know, when
we were in the height of going to

1554
01:33:04.720 --> 01:33:08.520
Tokyo a lot of times per year, So of course I ended up with

1555
01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:13.880
a copy of it, uh,
and it just looked awesome, but also

1556
01:33:14.159 --> 01:33:16.800
was all the way in Japanese.
Uh. That was actually one of the

1557
01:33:16.880 --> 01:33:19.039
games when I was kind of at
my height of like, man, I

1558
01:33:19.079 --> 01:33:24.199
should finally just learn Japanese, finally
learned to read this shit. That was

1559
01:33:24.359 --> 01:33:26.960
actually the game. You'd be amazed, like how it started me on that

1560
01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:29.279
path of like man, I should
do this, and I fell away from

1561
01:33:29.319 --> 01:33:30.880
it and whatever. But like you
you'd be amazed how little you need to

1562
01:33:30.960 --> 01:33:34.039
learn to actually make like a huge
difference exactly. Yeah, Like it's just

1563
01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:36.720
pretty simple the stuff that you would
need to know just to look just kind

1564
01:33:36.720 --> 01:33:40.960
of learn like what like hiragana and
yeah, the basic those basic alphabet but

1565
01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:43.119
then also like you know, the
kind of kind of stuff is just like

1566
01:33:43.199 --> 01:33:45.479
English words, right and you know
transliterated, so like it's like, oh,

1567
01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:47.680
I can tell what opt, how
to read options, you know,

1568
01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:53.319
like that stuff like that is super
useful. Yeah. Yeah, so I

1569
01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:57.319
thought about doing that for that game, but just never never did. Uh.

1570
01:33:57.560 --> 01:34:00.640
It sounds like there was some efforts
in going in to trying to like

1571
01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:05.640
fan translate it, but I don't
know how far that actually got. Does

1572
01:34:05.680 --> 01:34:11.439
that work? Like I know,
the Dreamcast got so incredibly busted opened in

1573
01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:15.600
terms of piracy and stuff like right, there's homebrew and all that stuff.

1574
01:34:15.680 --> 01:34:17.439
Yeah, yeah, it would just
take them doing the work. Yeah.

1575
01:34:17.720 --> 01:34:20.399
Yeah, it sounds sounds like a
pretty dense game though. Yeah, that

1576
01:34:20.439 --> 01:34:25.720
seems like it would be a pretty
big undertaking. I don't know if it

1577
01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:28.800
ever do. I don't know where
that project ended up, but that would

1578
01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:32.479
be fun to see that game spring
came in. It's like the opening of

1579
01:34:32.520 --> 01:34:35.800
it, we would not be able
to get too far, well what does

1580
01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:39.319
the gameplay still make it effort?
We mentioned it, we would not be

1581
01:34:39.399 --> 01:34:43.880
able to get that far yeah,
it's uh yeah, I hit some language

1582
01:34:43.920 --> 01:34:46.479
barriers pretty early on. Okay,
but maybe you remember just enough to get

1583
01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:50.840
us by there's some people in this
office. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

1584
01:34:50.880 --> 01:34:54.119
maybe we could just sit someone down
with us and and walk through some

1585
01:34:54.199 --> 01:34:57.479
of it. But yeah, as
your go too, you're willing out somebody

1586
01:34:57.560 --> 01:35:02.039
here. Oh boy, uh probably
Alexa okay, Justin Haywald, Yeah,

1587
01:35:02.159 --> 01:35:06.680
okay, just Peter Nohaney, I
bet. Yeah, but he's got he

1588
01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:12.520
knows enough to to haggle a pency. That was enough to get more copies

1589
01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:15.840
of Gradius. Yeah, I always
need more. Yeah. Uh, here's

1590
01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:21.039
an email from Drew No thanks,
sure, a different I mean totally Drew

1591
01:35:21.039 --> 01:35:26.359
Scandal that wrote this Hellogi bomb.
Me and my friends were browsing Wikipedia to

1592
01:35:26.439 --> 01:35:30.159
try to see if Matt Pinfield was
still alive. Oh yeah, okay,

1593
01:35:30.399 --> 01:35:32.960
I'm pretty sure he is. We
noticed a band named Headboard played on his

1594
01:35:33.119 --> 01:35:36.640
show farm Club. I was wondering
if it was that Headboard and if so,

1595
01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:42.840
are there any stories and word video
proof things I was? I mean

1596
01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:46.359
that aired on USA. I was
at a Nintendo event in Seattle. It

1597
01:35:46.479 --> 01:35:51.640
was a for Ocarina. I guess
they had a scavenger Hunt around Seattle around

1598
01:35:51.680 --> 01:35:55.159
that time, and I remember watching
that. This was after I was out

1599
01:35:55.199 --> 01:36:00.439
of that band, And I remember
watching that show and watching all these reduced

1600
01:36:00.479 --> 01:36:03.359
pieces of Matt Pinfield in Pedaluma with
the rest of these people while we're in

1601
01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:06.520
this band I used to be in
and watching the way that that band was

1602
01:36:06.640 --> 01:36:12.800
presenting itself on this mainstream stage and
just shaking my head in utter fucking disast.

1603
01:36:13.520 --> 01:36:15.399
Wild. I think Alex might have
been out of the band by then.

1604
01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:18.039
Two. He might have neither of
you guys. Maybe he was.

1605
01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:20.199
Maybe he was in the band.
Okay, maybe he was. He may

1606
01:36:20.239 --> 01:36:26.439
have met Matfield, he may have
met one who can say he's not from

1607
01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:29.319
around there? Is he? No? Okay? No? No, So

1608
01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:30.119
yeah, this was. This was
after I was out of the band.

1609
01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:36.640
I chose the video game things and
not the band that seemed to desperately want

1610
01:36:36.680 --> 01:36:40.600
to get signed and would be willing
to change anything about the music they were

1611
01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:45.359
making to get there. I see, Yeah, basically, so that's just

1612
01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:50.159
yeah. They did technically open for
Eminem and Doctor Dre though. That was

1613
01:36:50.439 --> 01:36:54.399
the very first episode of that Farm
Club show, and as I understand it,

1614
01:36:54.920 --> 01:36:56.960
it was so farm Club as a
website, and it was like this

1615
01:36:57.119 --> 01:37:00.279
like contest of like, you know, bands trying to win this contest.

1616
01:37:00.279 --> 01:37:01.680
And I think they won the contest
to get on the show, and they

1617
01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:05.039
were actually owed a bunch of money
that I don't think they ever got because

1618
01:37:05.039 --> 01:37:09.960
the whole thing kind of just blew
up not long after that. Uh but

1619
01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:12.439
yeah, yeah, no, they
they went and did that thing, and

1620
01:37:12.560 --> 01:37:15.079
I remember sitting in a hotel room
and watching it and just going on,

1621
01:37:16.760 --> 01:37:21.479
fuck that, man, what the
fuck? Yeah you guys you were there

1622
01:37:21.560 --> 01:37:24.720
for the run DMC show. So
that was after I was out of the

1623
01:37:24.760 --> 01:37:28.399
band. Came back as a one
night only thing because they needed someone who

1624
01:37:28.439 --> 01:37:31.359
could wrap. Okay. I always
thought that was cool to be able to

1625
01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:36.840
tell somebody that opened. That was
indeed pretty cool. And yeah, we

1626
01:37:36.920 --> 01:37:41.560
did a reunion show in Pedaluma like
three years ago or something like that.

1627
01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:46.079
It was fun to get everybody back
together and and do it. Uh yeah.

1628
01:37:46.399 --> 01:37:50.199
Also, I'm super depressed that people
are now We're not at the point

1629
01:37:50.199 --> 01:37:54.159
where people are wondering if Matt Penfield
is still alive or not, which means

1630
01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:58.560
that everybody got old. Matt Penfield
seems like the sort of person that will

1631
01:37:59.039 --> 01:38:00.600
be around forever, whether you like
it or not. It's also true,

1632
01:38:01.720 --> 01:38:05.319
Uh, he's not from Pedaluma,
but you know who is who not a

1633
01:38:05.439 --> 01:38:09.880
rider? Yeah. I found that
out in the in the course of my

1634
01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:15.399
kind of hot You on a Stranger
Stranger Things. I'm about here for a

1635
01:38:15.439 --> 01:38:23.159
week, I am I'm two episodes
from Shah people. So it's really good.

1636
01:38:23.640 --> 01:38:28.640
People would very, very very occasionally
see her around downtown. It didn't

1637
01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:31.039
seem like she was around that much. In fact, I would say I've

1638
01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:35.079
seen Bam Marjara around Palm or all
right. In fact, I've one,

1639
01:38:35.680 --> 01:38:40.840
definitely seen Bam around Pedaluma more than
one on a rider, because I think

1640
01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:44.760
Bam was with someone who was from
Pedaloumas. Around the holidays. They would

1641
01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:48.960
come to town. And so if
you were hanging out downtown Bam Marjara which

1642
01:38:49.039 --> 01:38:51.159
opened the bar you were drinking out, and you'll look over and go nice,

1643
01:38:51.319 --> 01:38:55.439
ok, guy, All right,
she's bad. No, no,

1644
01:38:55.720 --> 01:38:58.600
no, he gonna travel with any
of the rest of the family. Cindy

1645
01:38:58.640 --> 01:39:02.039
Crawford was spotted at a twenty nine
super grocery store and Wassa, Wisconsin once.

1646
01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:06.000
Yeah, my friend's sister dated Jake
Busey, So I spent a Thanksgiving

1647
01:39:06.039 --> 01:39:11.600
dinner with Jake Busey. Nice,
that's that's better than Cindy Crawford. That's

1648
01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:15.079
dark. We saw Benjamin brad at
a gas station once. That's pretty cool.

1649
01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:21.159
Yeah right, that's not bad.
That's not bad. Metal Edge of

1650
01:39:21.199 --> 01:39:24.640
Wood waiting in the line for Star
Wars. Okay, that's what I got.

1651
01:39:24.760 --> 01:39:26.960
We saw Jeremy Piven in a parking
lot in la and he seemed like

1652
01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:30.399
a dick. Yeah, I would
believe check Out. Yeah, uh yeah,

1653
01:39:30.439 --> 01:39:33.359
you should watch that show. Yeah. I go to She's She's super

1654
01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:36.319
good and it yaha. Soundtrack is
so good. Yeah, yeah, I

1655
01:39:36.359 --> 01:39:42.079
wish they'd put the score out.
It's I think it's m what does it

1656
01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:45.760
survive? Isn't the band? I
think? Uh, I'm not sure if

1657
01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:47.840
they put that actual score out.
So I don't think what is the show?

1658
01:39:47.920 --> 01:39:50.960
What it is? It is like
what it is a it's an eight

1659
01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:57.840
episode like intense nostalgia trip throwback to
It's like a mashup of like Stephen King

1660
01:39:58.119 --> 01:40:01.279
and like a lot of eighties Burke
stuff. I heard some people invoke freaks

1661
01:40:01.319 --> 01:40:05.760
and geeks a little bit, A
little bit. I mean, it's like

1662
01:40:06.039 --> 01:40:09.359
when you when you do that,
you have to put in some teen drama.

1663
01:40:09.600 --> 01:40:11.600
Yeah right, yeah, yeah,
there's some of that. But yeah,

1664
01:40:11.600 --> 01:40:13.119
I would say there's some of that, and that's kind of by the

1665
01:40:13.199 --> 01:40:15.560
numbers. It's very eighties. Not
a strong point of that show. It's

1666
01:40:15.720 --> 01:40:18.760
it's very eighties, like kind of
weird monster movie Spielberger, Steven came some

1667
01:40:18.800 --> 01:40:23.199
a little bit of John Carpenter like
in look and feel and stuff like that.

1668
01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:26.800
It's it's it's real good. I
would call it like a loving homage

1669
01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:30.479
and not like an annoying like winking
and Dutch like remember the eighties awesome like

1670
01:40:30.560 --> 01:40:34.239
it. It's it's not Armada,
right right, yeah, no, it's

1671
01:40:34.239 --> 01:40:39.199
not. It's not like a reference
fest like it's it feels. It feels

1672
01:40:39.199 --> 01:40:42.039
pretty much like it could have been
plucked from that era and and like it

1673
01:40:42.199 --> 01:40:46.159
it holds up. Uh, that's
it. I I think they should stop.

1674
01:40:46.720 --> 01:40:50.000
I think it ends so well that
they should just not make any more

1675
01:40:50.039 --> 01:40:55.920
of it. But it's so popular
that they totally will even stranger things.

1676
01:40:55.960 --> 01:40:59.279
They could call it the thing like
strangest things like that that may even call

1677
01:40:59.359 --> 01:41:01.720
that is where do you? Yes? That's like I think it should totally

1678
01:41:01.720 --> 01:41:04.359
be an anthology kind of thing,
because the name even sounds like Amazing Stories

1679
01:41:04.479 --> 01:41:06.920
or something like that, where like
every season should be like a different mystery

1680
01:41:06.960 --> 01:41:11.479
and stuff work for things worked for
True Detective. Well that's the thing,

1681
01:41:11.560 --> 01:41:15.920
you kid, You gotta you gotta
nail a premise every every new season with

1682
01:41:15.039 --> 01:41:19.600
that format. So that's tough.
That second season. Didn't even watch it,

1683
01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:24.760
So so just don't eisod doing a
third right? No? Are they

1684
01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:27.039
not? No? They put out
a DVD said and it says a True

1685
01:41:27.079 --> 01:41:30.520
Detective the Complete series. Jeez man. Yeah, the second one was fucking

1686
01:41:30.600 --> 01:41:33.600
terribly. Went from on top of
the world to yeah, the first season

1687
01:41:33.680 --> 01:41:36.359
is one of the best seasons of
TV I've ever seen. Second one say,

1688
01:41:36.439 --> 01:41:42.760
impenetrable. Yeah, terrible. All
right, there's an email from Adam

1689
01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:47.319
twelve will be the next three fight
or five character bookt Okay, many both

1690
01:41:47.359 --> 01:41:51.680
and spies were ridiculed to bring us
this information. That is the entirety of

1691
01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:56.479
the clandestine email. But do you
think sure, why? Like why not?

1692
01:41:56.680 --> 01:42:00.159
At this point they're leaning heavily into
you know, a Sert Fighter three

1693
01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:03.079
stuff. So sure jury is out
today? Right? Yeah? Jury came

1694
01:42:03.119 --> 01:42:10.079
out today? She the second to
last year. Yes, yeah, the

1695
01:42:10.119 --> 01:42:13.560
last one. The last one.
Jury is still an awesome Jerry is still

1696
01:42:13.600 --> 01:42:17.600
out still Ye yeah, it's Jerry
duty today. Okay, I just got

1697
01:42:17.680 --> 01:42:24.560
summons yesterday. Jerry, you do
so jealous. Everyone keeps getting I want,

1698
01:42:25.399 --> 01:42:28.520
Yeah, you want to serve on
a jury. I think they'd be

1699
01:42:28.560 --> 01:42:30.239
super fi. I agree, like
it's it's it's always comes with the worst

1700
01:42:30.279 --> 01:42:32.640
time, But if all other things
being equal, I would love to be

1701
01:42:33.520 --> 01:42:36.279
like some crazy of a case is
pet seems like, you know, if

1702
01:42:36.319 --> 01:42:39.920
I ever if I ever get to
a point where I get to retire,

1703
01:42:40.399 --> 01:42:44.319
I'm just gonna try to be on
as many churches as Yeah. The first

1704
01:42:44.439 --> 01:42:45.039
year of the I think it was
the first year of the site, or

1705
01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:48.159
maybe the second year. I got
a summons and made it to the final

1706
01:42:48.319 --> 01:42:51.479
round of selection on what was going
to be a month long murder travel Oh

1707
01:42:51.600 --> 01:42:55.680
man, and were you kind of
excited? But also like this was a

1708
01:42:55.760 --> 01:42:58.199
month this was less than two weeks. I was. I guess it would

1709
01:42:58.199 --> 01:43:00.439
have been the first year because this
was less than two weeks before TGS.

1710
01:43:00.800 --> 01:43:02.000
Oh yeah, yeah, it was
the year we wants TGS. Yeah,

1711
01:43:02.039 --> 01:43:04.399
I was like, I gotta go
to Japan. I had to write that.

1712
01:43:04.640 --> 01:43:08.880
I had to write like a thing
to the judge saying I got a

1713
01:43:08.880 --> 01:43:10.920
business trip. I can't. Yeah, I had to do that for E

1714
01:43:11.039 --> 01:43:14.239
three last year. I think you
were ducking them for a while, weren't

1715
01:43:14.239 --> 01:43:16.800
you. Yeah, yeah, yep, I had. I did the call

1716
01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:21.000
in thing or from the from the
website deferral, and then I had from

1717
01:43:21.039 --> 01:43:24.920
my second deferral, which was the
E three one ahead to go in and

1718
01:43:24.960 --> 01:43:27.159
then like sit through the thing,
and but I got out of it.

1719
01:43:29.399 --> 01:43:32.640
It's like completely sabotage your your chances. I mean, if you just get

1720
01:43:32.680 --> 01:43:39.720
in there and start like espousing racist
views and monster person was actually committing a

1721
01:43:39.720 --> 01:43:43.000
felony, that'll that'll work. Yeah, we just all become felons. I've

1722
01:43:43.039 --> 01:43:45.920
got time solved a lot of problem
again. So I was talking to somebody

1723
01:43:45.920 --> 01:43:48.560
about that over the weekend who said
that if you say you don't trust expert

1724
01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:53.119
testimony, that's a good way to, okay, get excluded, because you

1725
01:43:53.159 --> 01:43:56.920
know, both sides of the the
defense and the prostitution, have like rights

1726
01:43:56.960 --> 01:43:59.199
of refusal in terms of who I
think will be a good jury. So

1727
01:43:59.319 --> 01:44:00.960
why would you say you wouldn't trust
it? Because you don't want to be

1728
01:44:01.039 --> 01:44:04.199
on because that's a trick to get
out of being But there's no like actual

1729
01:44:04.319 --> 01:44:09.239
reason you would say that, right, dude, I don't try to take

1730
01:44:09.279 --> 01:44:12.319
the world around you and tell me
if there aren't a lot of people who

1731
01:44:12.399 --> 01:44:16.840
don't believe expert testimony, good point, good point, or you could do

1732
01:44:16.880 --> 01:44:21.319
your civic duty. Damn. Yeah, like I want to. I'm saying

1733
01:44:21.359 --> 01:44:26.199
these people are insane. I don't. I ain't got time for this ship.

1734
01:44:27.119 --> 01:44:29.840
That's the that's that's the the push
and pull. I would love to

1735
01:44:29.880 --> 01:44:31.800
do it, but I don't.
It sounds super interesting and I would love

1736
01:44:31.880 --> 01:44:34.960
to be, like, you know, associated with something that's really really interesting.

1737
01:44:35.079 --> 01:44:39.720
But man, that's I gotta take
time off from work. Yeah.

1738
01:44:39.760 --> 01:44:41.880
I only want to be on a
case if it's attached to an A list

1739
01:44:41.960 --> 01:44:44.479
director. Yeah, you know,
if it's like a good like a good,

1740
01:44:44.600 --> 01:44:47.039
like double homus. I don't like. At least you want to get

1741
01:44:47.039 --> 01:44:50.800
sequestered for six months. Oh yeah, get paid your twelve bucks a day?

1742
01:44:50.840 --> 01:44:54.800
Hell yeah? Is it twelve bucks? I think it varies by I'm

1743
01:44:54.840 --> 01:44:59.079
back in a right. I have
a friend of mine just had a dry

1744
01:44:59.159 --> 01:45:01.319
duty in Texas rec and they paid
him less than his parking cost every day.

1745
01:45:01.359 --> 01:45:04.640
So exactly how does that work with
like, you know, people have

1746
01:45:04.800 --> 01:45:09.520
jobs. If there's some like laws, yeah you have to so you can't

1747
01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:13.159
like so people keep getting paid from
their real not necessarily I think especially,

1748
01:45:13.520 --> 01:45:15.720
and again it probably very different,
but yeah, it also probably varies by

1749
01:45:16.039 --> 01:45:19.720
locality. Would you guys still pay
me if I went I don't know the

1750
01:45:19.760 --> 01:45:24.520
CBS policy on jury duty, but
if you periscope, I bet, I

1751
01:45:24.640 --> 01:45:27.079
bet you totally would still get paid. I want it for two weeks.

1752
01:45:27.239 --> 01:45:29.560
I want to I want to say. I want to say people that are

1753
01:45:29.560 --> 01:45:32.479
paid an hourly wage or screwed,
like if your salary to keep getting paid,

1754
01:45:32.520 --> 01:45:35.239
but if you're not working hours then
you're kind of just yeah. But

1755
01:45:35.239 --> 01:45:38.960
I think the only time your employer
can kind of raise a stink around it

1756
01:45:39.119 --> 01:45:41.960
or do anything is in these situations
where it's like, hey there's a trip

1757
01:45:41.960 --> 01:45:45.319
book, Hey there's like a you
know, like extra circumstances around it where

1758
01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:47.199
you are vital to the running of
a business, Like if you were a

1759
01:45:47.279 --> 01:45:50.199
sole proprietor of a two person business
and you were like this, I have

1760
01:45:50.239 --> 01:45:54.680
a hard ship. It's I like
one person cannot run this thing for like

1761
01:45:54.920 --> 01:45:56.960
they will, Like, that's what
I That's what I said in that murder

1762
01:45:57.279 --> 01:45:59.640
case. I think I was like, hey, we're a four person startup.

1763
01:45:59.680 --> 01:46:02.159
I'm a quarter of this thing.
Like I can't really afford to miss

1764
01:46:02.199 --> 01:46:06.439
this. Do they feed you as
well? If you get sequestered, they're

1765
01:46:06.640 --> 01:46:11.960
doing something for you. But I
think like normally like they may do lunch,

1766
01:46:12.439 --> 01:46:15.159
but this, okay, all right, I might I might do that.

1767
01:46:15.239 --> 01:46:16.600
I think I think your twelve dollars
is supposed to go towards feeding your

1768
01:46:16.680 --> 01:46:23.119
lunch on your days. That won't
even that won't. I think also,

1769
01:46:23.359 --> 01:46:27.279
you can't use the internet sequestered.
If you're sequestered, supposed to be really

1770
01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:30.079
cut off from all media access.
And yeah, I think that's the idea.

1771
01:46:30.600 --> 01:46:32.800
I put my phone in airplane mode. Yeah basically okay for yeah,

1772
01:46:33.079 --> 01:46:35.039
as long as it takes. I
don't know if the adventure time I'll still

1773
01:46:35.039 --> 01:46:43.199
work, then all right, pros
and cons to doing your civic DA must

1774
01:46:43.239 --> 01:46:46.479
be done. Uh. Here's an
email from Corey in Pennsylvania. Last week,

1775
01:46:46.560 --> 01:46:50.359
you mentioned that the NES version of
Tetris isn't the best version. This

1776
01:46:50.520 --> 01:46:55.319
raises the question, what is the
best version. I recently built a retro

1777
01:46:55.479 --> 01:46:59.159
pie and have been hankering from some
Tetris. I'm mostly going to be playing

1778
01:46:59.199 --> 01:47:01.680
alone, so pet Tetris Battle Guiding
probably isn't for me. I don't know

1779
01:47:03.399 --> 01:47:06.640
what is the best Tetris. I
don't know if that best single player Tetris.

1780
01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:13.199
I mean that ten Getting Tetris is
probably all right. I never isn't

1781
01:47:13.199 --> 01:47:16.479
that the n S one, that's
the the weird black car. Yes,

1782
01:47:16.640 --> 01:47:23.279
Tetris is the game Boy one,
the highest selling one, probably everyone had

1783
01:47:23.359 --> 01:47:30.279
that Probably probably Tetris DS is really
good. That one's great, really good.

1784
01:47:30.479 --> 01:47:32.840
Yeah. The next Tetris for End
sixty four was good because that's got

1785
01:47:32.960 --> 01:47:36.439
a that's got a meta game to
it where every line you complete goes towards

1786
01:47:36.520 --> 01:47:42.000
building like the seven uh monuments like
that. Cool, so you're you're kind

1787
01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:44.880
of building stuff as you play.
That might be probably play alone, but

1788
01:47:44.960 --> 01:47:47.920
that's that's a good four player game
as well. I totally forgot about Tetris

1789
01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:50.159
DS. Yeah, that's probably my
favorite ever, although a lot of that

1790
01:47:50.239 --> 01:47:53.720
was around the multiplayer features, and
it sounds like he's not going to be

1791
01:47:53.760 --> 01:47:57.239
doing that right. Just it's still
just I think if you Tetris like the

1792
01:47:57.520 --> 01:48:00.000
ones that get played and you know
for speed Run and you know in the

1793
01:48:01.159 --> 01:48:04.359
awesome games None Quick and stuff like
that, like when they're doing those are

1794
01:48:04.439 --> 01:48:08.680
like Tetris, Grand Master Ace like
those the Yeah, those those arcade games

1795
01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:12.760
are probably well tuned for single player
play. I can see that. Yeah.

1796
01:48:13.399 --> 01:48:16.520
Well, and actually, like Puyo
Puyo, Tetris has enough with the

1797
01:48:16.600 --> 01:48:19.600
two blending of game modes going on
that like there's I don't know, I

1798
01:48:19.680 --> 01:48:24.880
thought there was enough to to keep
you going, even single player classic,

1799
01:48:25.479 --> 01:48:28.000
and it's got a whole campaign that
kind of mixes all the different types.

1800
01:48:28.079 --> 01:48:30.520
Like that's a it's a big game. Ain't gonna run your retro pie.

1801
01:48:30.640 --> 01:48:34.359
But you could import that game that
never came out. No, no,

1802
01:48:34.520 --> 01:48:38.039
no, it's a license thing.
Right. Oh man, he's got it

1803
01:48:38.119 --> 01:48:41.800
here. That's a bummer. I
should come out. Yeah, I've been

1804
01:48:41.840 --> 01:48:44.199
thinking about, Yeah, putting like
a retro pie. And we've got that

1805
01:48:44.439 --> 01:48:48.439
X arcade like two players joystick.
Is that the one that three five is

1806
01:48:48.479 --> 01:48:50.479
running in right now? No?
No no, no, no no no.

1807
01:48:50.680 --> 01:48:54.199
This is a over by my desk. Actually, not one of the

1808
01:48:54.239 --> 01:48:56.760
cabinets here, not one of the
cabinets. No, it's it's small like

1809
01:48:57.920 --> 01:49:00.720
two player units. Like it's like
a control surface for like people running mame,

1810
01:49:01.319 --> 01:49:03.359
like two players set up and all
this other stuff. It's it's hooks

1811
01:49:03.439 --> 01:49:06.239
up through the keyboard. Yeah,
yeah, yeah I can. There's lots

1812
01:49:06.279 --> 01:49:10.000
of different hookups. But yeah,
I was thinking about like putting a raspberry

1813
01:49:10.039 --> 01:49:14.920
pie in there. HDMI out self
contained little units. Yeah, thats cool.

1814
01:49:15.039 --> 01:49:16.199
That could be neat, do it. It could be neat. Think

1815
01:49:16.239 --> 01:49:20.159
about We've got a raspberry pie powering
these screens around our floor that are like

1816
01:49:20.279 --> 01:49:25.000
showing like stats and web server load
and all this other stuff. So I've

1817
01:49:25.159 --> 01:49:28.119
just grabbed one of those because everybody
every day I think about the one that's

1818
01:49:28.159 --> 01:49:30.319
right behind me and think like I
need to pop the SD card out,

1819
01:49:30.920 --> 01:49:33.479
installed cooler shit on it, and
then just turn this TV into a fun

1820
01:49:33.640 --> 01:49:39.439
zone. I learned about raspberry pie
because probably five or six months ago,

1821
01:49:39.840 --> 01:49:42.000
somebody in the office I think it
was tied or someone was like, hey,

1822
01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:45.039
they're giving out free raspberry pies down
on like second mission. I was

1823
01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:47.520
like sweet, and so I went
down there and I did not I had

1824
01:49:47.560 --> 01:49:51.279
never heard of what raspberry pie was. I was expecting to get us slice

1825
01:49:51.279 --> 01:49:56.159
of pie, and they were giving
out little microchip things that doesn't fucking pie

1826
01:49:56.520 --> 01:49:59.239
And I came home with nothing.
He didn't even wait to get one.

1827
01:49:59.399 --> 01:50:00.439
I don't remember. I had to
do some dumb thing or tweet something.

1828
01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:03.760
I remember that happening, and they
totally wanted you to like yeah, and

1829
01:50:03.800 --> 01:50:06.239
I wasn't gonna do that. I
just want to pie. Yeah. Also,

1830
01:50:06.279 --> 01:50:09.520
those things are like thirty bucks,
like it's yeah. Also, I

1831
01:50:09.560 --> 01:50:12.520
would have no idea how Also,
yeah, they take some doing. I

1832
01:50:12.560 --> 01:50:15.000
mean that's all. It's a lot
easier than it was. But I've got

1833
01:50:15.079 --> 01:50:15.800
a first chen one. I still
love it. Yeah, I've got an

1834
01:50:15.840 --> 01:50:18.840
older one. Yeah, someone sent
in in a mailbag. Someone sent in

1835
01:50:18.880 --> 01:50:21.720
an older one that I messed around
with for a while. Turned mine into

1836
01:50:21.760 --> 01:50:28.319
a bootleg airplay Yeah okay, yeah
that's kind of fun. I took Dru's

1837
01:50:28.319 --> 01:50:30.800
advice and turned my Kindle Fire into
an awesome emulator machine. Yeah that's so

1838
01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:33.359
weird. I did the same thing
actually, yeah, the same weekend without

1839
01:50:33.880 --> 01:50:35.760
know when we were doing that.
Yeah, it's great. A little Bluetooth

1840
01:50:35.760 --> 01:50:39.600
controller. Yeah, I got some
flights coming up, so it'd be great

1841
01:50:39.640 --> 01:50:43.840
for that. Cool, cool,
emulation. It's I think about it a

1842
01:50:43.920 --> 01:50:47.359
lot, you do, Actually,
yeah, that's have for about twenty years

1843
01:50:47.399 --> 01:50:50.199
now, thought about it a lot, was it? Uh yeah, ever

1844
01:50:50.239 --> 01:50:56.039
since Nesticle basically yeah, Freeesticle nescal
was mind blowing. Yeah, it was

1845
01:50:56.079 --> 01:50:58.880
like for a lot of reasons,
Passo Fami before that, an e nest

1846
01:50:58.920 --> 01:51:01.800
and stuff like that that were like
like shareware things like Passo Family only played

1847
01:51:01.800 --> 01:51:09.560
stuff in yellow and only played Map
zero books. Having that icon was as

1848
01:51:09.600 --> 01:51:15.800
amazing for the icon as it was
just Mario. It was an iconic emulator.

1849
01:51:15.079 --> 01:51:20.840
It really true. It changed everything. Yeah, was it on the

1850
01:51:21.520 --> 01:51:25.079
podcast or we're just sitting around the
office when you were talking about that in

1851
01:51:25.119 --> 01:51:29.800
sixty four emulation stuff recently that's sitting
around Yeah, so that they're yeah,

1852
01:51:30.239 --> 01:51:33.199
they're using Vulcan to move to like
low level emulation of the Nintendo sixty four.

1853
01:51:33.319 --> 01:51:36.640
They've basically been hacking support on a
per game basis for in sixty four

1854
01:51:38.479 --> 01:51:42.279
and all this plug in based stuff
that's always just seemed really JANKI. Uh

1855
01:51:42.439 --> 01:51:47.039
So the lib retro people, the
retro archs people have a Vulcan based U

1856
01:51:47.319 --> 01:51:50.640
emulator core for the n sixty four
out Now that it seems to be doing

1857
01:51:50.680 --> 01:51:54.279
it, and I'm trying to do
it in a more accurate way, which

1858
01:51:54.319 --> 01:51:59.000
is fascinating. Vulcan seems to be
doing a lot for that type of emulation.

1859
01:51:59.399 --> 01:52:00.920
Uh, in a way that I
never would have known. Yeah,

1860
01:52:01.159 --> 01:52:05.239
that's because why would I because I'm
not a technical person. But but Vulcan

1861
01:52:05.279 --> 01:52:11.359
seems like it's leading some very interesting
moves around that stuff. Yeah, stuffs

1862
01:52:11.359 --> 01:52:15.159
exciting, uh, Ian sends in
an email that I think is awesome.

1863
01:52:15.199 --> 01:52:19.159
I really enjoyed this email of the
week. Yep, pretty much. Brad,

1864
01:52:19.319 --> 01:52:24.199
Jeff, and Jason. Your presumption
that fighting games are one in the

1865
01:52:24.319 --> 01:52:27.920
mind and do not rely as heavily
on your ability to react was fairly spot

1866
01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:30.760
on. I just wanted to add
a fun bit of info in your discussion.

1867
01:52:30.760 --> 01:52:34.000
You brought up the Diego Perry video
and how he likely already knows the

1868
01:52:34.079 --> 01:52:39.199
proper timing to perform that particular Perry. You're spot on with this assumption,

1869
01:52:39.279 --> 01:52:43.199
but the real beauty in this moment
comes from Diego knowing exactly when Justin would

1870
01:52:43.199 --> 01:52:46.720
attempt to chip out with the super
Yeah. Yeah. In third Strike,

1871
01:52:46.800 --> 01:52:49.840
the way that Chun superworks is that
it comes out so fast and travels such

1872
01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:54.199
a far distance that in order to
Perry the first hit, you already need

1873
01:52:54.279 --> 01:52:59.039
to be pressing forward the input for
Perry before the super flash freezes the screen.

1874
01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:02.479
Digo was expecting Justin to throw out
a random super because he is very

1875
01:53:02.560 --> 01:53:06.319
quickly moving back and forth from a
range well outside of Chun's farthest normal.

1876
01:53:08.119 --> 01:53:12.880
Digo knew well before the Perry the
exact input he needed to win against what

1877
01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:16.319
his opponent was likely to do.
Digo had already beaten Justin before the flash

1878
01:53:16.359 --> 01:53:19.479
of the super at that point.
Is just muscle memory. Yeah, I

1879
01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:23.760
guess that's that's like super. That's
such an iconic moment. It's like,

1880
01:53:23.880 --> 01:53:26.439
you know, it's the springboard for
you know, a lot of people getting

1881
01:53:26.439 --> 01:53:29.800
into the scene, and you know, the clip gets passed around. They

1882
01:53:29.840 --> 01:53:32.560
showed it on ESPN, they showed
it coming back from break like, they

1883
01:53:33.079 --> 01:53:38.119
did show it during the like never
gets hired watching it. It's it's so

1884
01:53:38.239 --> 01:53:40.840
much fun. Yeah, it gives
me goose bumps. And I don't know,

1885
01:53:40.960 --> 01:53:44.039
I don't know from fighting games,
but just then A god. I

1886
01:53:44.159 --> 01:53:48.520
liked that they had that in that
challenge mode for U for that rerelease of

1887
01:53:48.560 --> 01:53:51.119
Third st they said like, hey, try and do it. Yep,

1888
01:53:51.560 --> 01:53:55.680
did you ever do it? Nope, I got all right at us,

1889
01:53:55.960 --> 01:53:58.199
Yeah I got try to do it
on our extra life stream and she yeah

1890
01:53:58.279 --> 01:54:01.920
she got mind close but that's cool. But yeah, god, I still

1891
01:54:01.960 --> 01:54:04.439
thinking about that moment. Just try
and put it into contacts. You know,

1892
01:54:04.600 --> 01:54:06.760
you know this is you know,
Grand Finals, you know this last

1893
01:54:06.880 --> 01:54:11.399
round. God damn it to have
that. I mean, anybody can look

1894
01:54:11.439 --> 01:54:13.119
at that, Like the Drew was
saying, you know, you don't have

1895
01:54:13.199 --> 01:54:15.760
to know all the nuances of street
fighter to look at the life bars and

1896
01:54:15.880 --> 01:54:17.840
realize that he is coming from a
way behind and eken that one out and

1897
01:54:17.880 --> 01:54:21.039
more importantly the crowd reactions and they
don't have to know anything to realize that's

1898
01:54:21.079 --> 01:54:25.359
something crazy is happening there. Yes, people got hype, Yes, a

1899
01:54:25.399 --> 01:54:29.039
little bit, Yes, hyping a
little bit of hype. Hype increased that

1900
01:54:29.159 --> 01:54:33.399
day, for sure, Hype was
born that Yep. Andrew from Bloomington,

1901
01:54:33.399 --> 01:54:39.680
Illinois sends in a weird email,
pop Pop. If wolves became hyper intelligent

1902
01:54:39.760 --> 01:54:42.800
and killed us all, do you
think they'd all be doing our jobs in

1903
01:54:42.840 --> 01:54:45.359
a couple of years, like Wolf
Uber Driver and Wolf Paint salesman. Yeah,

1904
01:54:46.640 --> 01:54:49.640
wolves can't drive cars. You don't
think so? If even a smart,

1905
01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:55.439
hyper intelligent wolves, how long they
would build cars that will little wolf

1906
01:54:55.520 --> 01:54:59.279
cars? You know they would eventually? Wait, would they have even if

1907
01:54:59.319 --> 01:55:01.239
they're super smart? Like dolphins are
super smart, but they don't have vocal

1908
01:55:01.279 --> 01:55:03.680
cords? Are they gonna be able
to talk and like, hey, we're

1909
01:55:03.680 --> 01:55:08.800
gonna put together a car factory and
make a little wolf cars. Yeah,

1910
01:55:09.600 --> 01:55:11.520
they find a way. I don't
think so. I don't think so.

1911
01:55:12.039 --> 01:55:14.239
I think they'd just be really smart
wolves. You're also you're also the guy

1912
01:55:14.279 --> 01:55:15.640
that thought you could successfully fight a
wolf, though, so I'm not so

1913
01:55:15.640 --> 01:55:18.720
sure. I stand by that.
Not sure. I want to see that.

1914
01:55:18.880 --> 01:55:25.199
What would you be armed? With
the things on my person? It's

1915
01:55:25.359 --> 01:55:28.359
like my keys, So I guess
I would just have to like get it

1916
01:55:28.479 --> 01:55:31.159
on the ground and put my forearm
across its neck and then like stab it

1917
01:55:31.239 --> 01:55:33.359
in the brain with my keys,
or punch it in the head until its

1918
01:55:33.399 --> 01:55:38.439
brain was dead, or stab its
eyes. Uh, you know you gotta

1919
01:55:38.439 --> 01:55:41.399
fight dirty wolves that balls, right, you can kick on the balls.

1920
01:55:41.800 --> 01:55:44.920
It's probably adds effective with a wolf
as it is with a man. Yeah,

1921
01:55:45.479 --> 01:55:48.079
I think i'd be fine. I've
never been in a fight with a

1922
01:55:48.159 --> 01:55:53.119
human, but I bet I could
take a wolf. I see no reason

1923
01:55:53.239 --> 01:55:56.000
to think otherwise. I think.
I think you just figured out your next

1924
01:55:56.039 --> 01:55:59.159
stunt video. Okay, yeah,
I want to shoot that. Set it

1925
01:55:59.239 --> 01:56:02.680
up? How far can I getting? Mario three? Wolf is on you,

1926
01:56:05.039 --> 01:56:12.239
let's see. Jeremy from Wisconsin writes
in about Contra one. It was

1927
01:56:12.279 --> 01:56:15.960
briefly noted that Contra one is missing
from the classic ne NES mini lineup.

1928
01:56:15.720 --> 01:56:19.760
The game has never been resold in
a standalone digital form for seemingly no reason.

1929
01:56:20.319 --> 01:56:25.319
The arcade version was an early XPLA
release, and ne NES superc as

1930
01:56:25.359 --> 01:56:28.600
well as SNES Contra three are both
available on the E three S and e

1931
01:56:28.760 --> 01:56:31.800
U. The MSX two version of
Contra one is available on the WE and

1932
01:56:31.880 --> 01:56:35.760
we U in Japan only. Even
more unusual is that the NES version of

1933
01:56:35.840 --> 01:56:40.680
Contra one is unlockable in the DS
release of Contra four. This is the

1934
01:56:40.840 --> 01:56:45.399
only time it's been officially playable on
a non NES system, except for a

1935
01:56:45.479 --> 01:56:50.439
PC compilation release in the nineties.
There's there's a lot of speculation about imagery

1936
01:56:50.520 --> 01:56:55.520
being too similar to the movie Aliens
or contractual disputes with an original developer,

1937
01:56:55.880 --> 01:57:00.119
but neither makes sense considering the inclusion
in Contra four. It's one of the

1938
01:57:00.199 --> 01:57:02.560
most popular in NES games, so
there must be a real reason why Kanami

1939
01:57:02.680 --> 01:57:06.960
keeps excluding it and isn't selling it
on virtual console. Any ideas or connections

1940
01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:13.600
you can leverage, No one works
at Konami, anyone. Actually, I

1941
01:57:13.640 --> 01:57:17.039
did get an email from Kanami,
from someone representing Konami asking us if we

1942
01:57:17.079 --> 01:57:20.319
wanted to go play their soccer game. Which what do you say? I

1943
01:57:20.359 --> 01:57:24.239
said, no, thank you?
And why don't they invite us to go

1944
01:57:24.319 --> 01:57:26.880
play that m G S three machinko
machine. Yes, I would go look

1945
01:57:26.880 --> 01:57:29.720
at that. I just send us
one for sure. Yeah, they're not

1946
01:57:29.720 --> 01:57:32.039
putting that on the US, I
know. Yeah, this is like a

1947
01:57:32.119 --> 01:57:35.199
weird, weird little retro mystery.
It might just be maybe maybe it's just

1948
01:57:35.279 --> 01:57:41.199
a situation where by that game being
so known for its thirty lives code,

1949
01:57:41.359 --> 01:57:45.680
it's just too easy. But they
have to it'd be easy money. It's

1950
01:57:45.119 --> 01:57:49.319
popular. They wouldn't turn down that
money because it's too easy. Maybe they're

1951
01:57:49.359 --> 01:57:54.119
putting it onto Well I was gonna
say, maybe it wouldn't make sense to

1952
01:57:54.159 --> 01:57:59.520
put on platforms that can't handle two
player, but that DS one probably was

1953
01:57:59.560 --> 01:58:02.359
just single player on Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's whoever,

1954
01:58:02.760 --> 01:58:06.520
like is high up. Maybe someone
at Konami worked on that game and

1955
01:58:06.640 --> 01:58:12.000
got in a fight with someone and
there's just some deeply personal, horrible thing

1956
01:58:12.560 --> 01:58:15.399
where now they're just like, fuck
that guy left after Contra was done,

1957
01:58:15.439 --> 01:58:17.680
and then I led super C.
We're putting super C in that thing.

1958
01:58:17.880 --> 01:58:20.520
Fuck that guy. It might just
be that. It might just be that

1959
01:58:20.680 --> 01:58:24.960
SEP like some deeply held grudges that
exist in the Konami management. I mean

1960
01:58:25.279 --> 01:58:28.520
that's yeah, you might be right. There are a lot of dumb things

1961
01:58:28.640 --> 01:58:31.600
like that. I think that probably
are across all of video games and not

1962
01:58:31.720 --> 01:58:34.640
just Konami that you're like, Oh, that's is this their version of Vents

1963
01:58:34.680 --> 01:58:38.720
hates macho Man. Yeah, I
don't know why. I don't know why.

1964
01:58:38.720 --> 01:58:44.520
I gotta be some reason. Okay, sounds sorted. Uh Seth and

1965
01:58:44.600 --> 01:58:47.600
Berkeley while listening to the June twenty
first Show, Jeff drop a quote from

1966
01:58:47.680 --> 01:58:53.119
Robert de Niro in Heat, and
Dan seemed confused by it. Dan quote,

1967
01:58:53.239 --> 01:58:55.359
Dan, have you never seen Heat? If not, what the fuck

1968
01:58:55.439 --> 01:58:57.359
is wrong with you. I actually, I think it was like two years

1969
01:58:57.359 --> 01:58:59.920
ago on this podcast, I said, I haven't seen has that come up?

1970
01:59:00.000 --> 01:59:01.199
And everyone told me that I should
see it, and so I bought

1971
01:59:01.239 --> 01:59:03.359
it on Blue right and he's awesome. Okay, all right, well,

1972
01:59:03.359 --> 01:59:06.159
what's the question? You have seen? No idea? Who knows? Huh.

1973
01:59:06.239 --> 01:59:08.960
I didn't pick up on that,
but yeah, we watched and it's

1974
01:59:09.000 --> 01:59:12.800
awesome. Yeah. This podcast is
doomed to repeat itself. He yeah,

1975
01:59:13.000 --> 01:59:15.479
kind of yeah, Yeah, stuff
happens. You just gonna tell the same

1976
01:59:15.520 --> 01:59:17.199
stories over and over again. We
talk about the time the cops rated my

1977
01:59:17.239 --> 01:59:25.199
house. Uh, let's see.
Javier has a site question of sorts.

1978
01:59:26.880 --> 01:59:29.880
I have to say that you finally
found the perfect formula for the Ranking of

1979
01:59:29.920 --> 01:59:32.159
Fighters show, with the last one
a ninety minute video with two games yep,

1980
01:59:32.319 --> 01:59:36.199
sixty for the serious good game and
thirty for the other goofy mediocre one.

1981
01:59:36.399 --> 01:59:41.039
No, that's just that's science the
science dictators. Yeah, that's the

1982
01:59:41.079 --> 01:59:44.479
formula was tattoo assassins, the serious
one obviously, okay, of course,

1983
01:59:45.119 --> 01:59:46.479
and of course, the question,
how do you decide what is going to

1984
01:59:46.520 --> 01:59:53.880
be premium content? Why aren't the
Ranking of Fighters videos premium science, you

1985
01:59:53.960 --> 01:59:56.479
know, is for everyone. I
think that, you know, there are

1986
01:59:56.560 --> 02:00:00.159
too many cases of science being locked
behind paywalls, you know, being published

1987
02:00:00.199 --> 02:00:03.720
I mean, hi flute in tech
journals. Yeah, we don't charge for

1988
02:00:04.199 --> 02:00:08.840
you know, our encyclopedias or uh, you know, for the wikis.

1989
02:00:09.520 --> 02:00:12.319
I mean, this is a service
that we need to provide. You're sharing,

1990
02:00:12.479 --> 02:00:14.960
you're sharing your findings for the good
of man kind of exactly. Yeah,

1991
02:00:15.199 --> 02:00:17.920
that information needs to be free.
Yeah, yeah, that that's pretty

1992
02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:20.520
much. I mean, yeah,
like the the stuff that we kind of

1993
02:00:20.600 --> 02:00:24.359
look at look at is like,
oh, this is kind of supplemental to

1994
02:00:24.479 --> 02:00:29.039
the wiki in some ways or stuff
like that. Like a lot of that

1995
02:00:29.199 --> 02:00:32.640
ended up being free. That's kind
of how we've we've been leaning with some

1996
02:00:32.760 --> 02:00:38.800
of that stuff. Try to find
a good mix. Richard from England,

1997
02:00:39.960 --> 02:00:43.439
I was wondering is there a general
consensus in regards to which of the two

1998
02:00:43.520 --> 02:00:47.840
consoles, the Sness and the Genesis
created better sound, including music and more

1999
02:00:47.920 --> 02:00:51.800
general sound effects. Also, could
there be a case for personal preference despite

2000
02:00:51.840 --> 02:00:57.119
obvious flaws or limitations in the hardware
of either console. No, it's just

2001
02:00:57.239 --> 02:01:01.279
the Genesis is factually better. There's
no personal preference involved. Do you like

2002
02:01:01.359 --> 02:01:05.479
the Genesis Street Fighter two music better
than the Supernintendo one. I think that's

2003
02:01:05.520 --> 02:01:09.840
a different case because that's music that
was not created on either one of those

2004
02:01:09.880 --> 02:01:13.359
platforms, and I think they're both
shit. I thought the general consensus was

2005
02:01:13.520 --> 02:01:16.000
that the Supernintendo Street Fighter music was
way way better, and I brought that

2006
02:01:16.119 --> 02:01:19.199
up in Tim Turry, who you
know, loves those games. He was

2007
02:01:19.520 --> 02:01:24.600
adamant and he's obsessed with sixteen BIVI
video game music that the Genesis version is

2008
02:01:24.640 --> 02:01:26.600
far ship. I would have to
go back and listen. I can't tell

2009
02:01:26.640 --> 02:01:28.760
you one way or the other.
I think they're you know, the fidelity

2010
02:01:28.880 --> 02:01:31.720
of sampled sound on the Genesis,
especially in that game, is lower than

2011
02:01:31.760 --> 02:01:36.119
on the next. That's a pretty
common thing. But you know, there

2012
02:01:36.159 --> 02:01:41.239
are two different technologies being used to
produce the music, so some tracks are

2013
02:01:41.279 --> 02:01:44.479
going to sound better one way than
the other depending on what the original source

2014
02:01:44.560 --> 02:01:46.359
material. Let me, I kind
of like the Genesis like the Unique like

2015
02:01:46.439 --> 02:01:49.079
Warbly. Yeah, I don't know
how to describe it. I think I

2016
02:01:49.159 --> 02:01:51.960
think that's an FM synth is what
that is. Okay, that's cool.

2017
02:01:53.479 --> 02:02:01.520
Sound is better nothing sound. Genesis
sound is dirtier. Sound is to sound

2018
02:02:02.039 --> 02:02:09.920
the way the N sixty four looks
like someone like someone filled your ears full

2019
02:02:09.960 --> 02:02:14.800
of vasiline. But I'm not saying
that's bad. I'm just saying that,

2020
02:02:14.880 --> 02:02:17.680
like there's a certain sample rate that
you know, they're packing digital samples onto

2021
02:02:17.680 --> 02:02:20.159
a cartridge, it's not meant to
be there. You know. The Genesis

2022
02:02:20.600 --> 02:02:24.760
was a little less capable of playing
that stuff back in some cases, so

2023
02:02:24.800 --> 02:02:27.600
they didn't attempt it this frequently.
I mean, not knowing anything about sound

2024
02:02:27.720 --> 02:02:30.279
quality or files or how this stuff
is done at all. I just know

2025
02:02:30.399 --> 02:02:32.000
that like linked to the past when
I think like sixteen bit music, So

2026
02:02:32.119 --> 02:02:34.800
yes, that's stuff that's coming out
of the synth that's not like you know,

2027
02:02:34.960 --> 02:02:38.960
sampled sounds, still music coming out
of the downs, so that stuff

2028
02:02:39.000 --> 02:02:41.359
is a lot cleaner. And Chris
Berker, That's what I'm talking about,

2029
02:02:41.359 --> 02:02:44.319
Like I love a lot of those
stuff or something like NBA JAM. I

2030
02:02:44.479 --> 02:02:47.720
remember loving the announcer way more on
the Genesis version because I have both versions,

2031
02:02:47.880 --> 02:02:51.239
and everything was muffled and weird on
Superintendent and it didn't have music on

2032
02:02:51.279 --> 02:02:56.920
Superintendo it did on Genesis. I'm
like ninety nine percent sure of this because

2033
02:02:56.920 --> 02:02:59.640
I owned both them, played them
both all the time. I don't think

2034
02:02:59.680 --> 02:03:02.399
the super Intendi version had music weird. Yeah, yeah, I would have

2035
02:03:02.439 --> 02:03:05.279
to go look at that and that's
that is really strange. Yeah yeah,

2036
02:03:05.359 --> 02:03:08.640
I think, you know, it
depends on the poor that depends on each

2037
02:03:08.720 --> 02:03:11.680
individual game and stuff like that.
They both have their strengths. I think

2038
02:03:11.760 --> 02:03:16.239
the Genesis just has a unique quality
to its sound in the world of consoles.

2039
02:03:16.279 --> 02:03:19.720
I mean, obviously those protestors were
used elsewhere and stuff. It's good

2040
02:03:19.840 --> 02:03:28.079
baselines on that system. Great grindy. Yeah, found sounds like everything's just

2041
02:03:28.159 --> 02:03:30.560
like slap yeah kind of thing going
on. It's so good to jam and

2042
02:03:30.560 --> 02:03:33.640
earl. There's a lot of digital
samples in that that that give it it's

2043
02:03:34.239 --> 02:03:39.800
it's vibe. But there's there's still
some good synth stuff in in that game

2044
02:03:39.880 --> 02:03:46.520
too. Indeed. Uh, let's
see Tim from Columbus, Ohio. Am

2045
02:03:46.520 --> 02:03:49.960
I the only one that doesn't understand
why we refer to downloads as digital All

2046
02:03:50.039 --> 02:03:54.680
games on discs are digital? Or
you take that back, are you putting

2047
02:03:54.680 --> 02:03:57.880
a vinyl record into your PlayStations?
Isn't a wave form on the disc?

2048
02:03:58.000 --> 02:04:00.560
It's digital too. We could just
call it a download and save ourselves a

2049
02:04:00.640 --> 02:04:03.319
syllable. And then here's the reason
I actually pulled this email. Ps.

2050
02:04:03.399 --> 02:04:06.319
I actually read up a bit and
it sounds like laser discs may have had

2051
02:04:06.359 --> 02:04:11.720
some analog games. This is a
good question for Jeff pps skyline. Chili

2052
02:04:11.760 --> 02:04:15.640
sucks, ass. You don't put
sentiment in chili, you animals. Cincinnati

2053
02:04:15.760 --> 02:04:18.720
is a hellhole that Ohio should make
Kentucky take. If Trump wants to build

2054
02:04:18.760 --> 02:04:23.520
a wall, it should be between
Cincinnati and the rest of Ohio. I

2055
02:04:23.680 --> 02:04:29.479
devote for that sentiment in Chili.
Yeah, yeah, they would there.

2056
02:04:29.720 --> 02:04:31.159
I can see that. I would
put a little bit of sentiment, and

2057
02:04:31.199 --> 02:04:34.479
you don't want to put too much, though it'll I think Chili I think

2058
02:04:34.520 --> 02:04:38.199
has a little too much. Yeah, too much. Too much sentiment is

2059
02:04:38.239 --> 02:04:41.920
a little too noticeable. It's it's
kind of when people have sent in cans

2060
02:04:41.960 --> 02:04:44.000
and stuff like that. I have
eaten all of it and it's been all

2061
02:04:44.079 --> 02:04:47.199
right. But yeah, uh yeah, just just a pinch. But yeah,

2062
02:04:47.239 --> 02:04:50.920
like, what's what's up laser discs
being an analog? What's yeah they're

2063
02:04:50.920 --> 02:04:56.560
about that's you'd have to I'm I
don't have the Wikipedia page memorized for why

2064
02:04:56.640 --> 02:05:00.039
ano, why laser discs are the
way they are. But yes, that

2065
02:05:00.159 --> 02:05:04.319
is an analog storage medium, and
yeah there were so, yes, there

2066
02:05:04.359 --> 02:05:08.520
are some video games that run off
of laser disc and I don't know if

2067
02:05:08.600 --> 02:05:12.000
that's like a yeah, if those
loaded in an analog capacity the way they

2068
02:05:12.239 --> 02:05:15.399
they would load off a tape or
something, or or if they put like

2069
02:05:15.479 --> 02:05:20.920
a CD layer and then analog video
layer. I don't know how the game

2070
02:05:21.000 --> 02:05:24.279
stuff like Pyramid Patrol and stuff like
that, I don't know how they did

2071
02:05:24.319 --> 02:05:27.800
it. Let's go get our hands
on a Laser Active or they're too expensive

2072
02:05:28.399 --> 02:05:30.279
and they're only get all that shits
is getting more expensive. I would love

2073
02:05:30.319 --> 02:05:34.399
to own a Laser Active and those
games, even though none of them are

2074
02:05:34.520 --> 02:05:40.399
particularly great. I would love to
play Pyramid Patrol for the second week running.

2075
02:05:40.399 --> 02:05:43.600
I'll say, we should get a
hold Steve Lynn. Just keep that

2076
02:05:43.640 --> 02:05:45.079
guy in retainer. Yeah, we
yes, bring some stuff in here.

2077
02:05:45.119 --> 02:05:49.119
We absolutely should. It's any of
that stuff emulated. I don't There are

2078
02:05:49.239 --> 02:05:53.920
laser disc emulators, but they use
like MP four's like that's just like here's

2079
02:05:53.960 --> 02:05:58.560
a rip of this disc or a
capture of the super weird like in conjunction

2080
02:05:58.680 --> 02:06:02.039
with like rob like dragons Layer and
Cobra Command all that sort of stuff.

2081
02:06:02.079 --> 02:06:05.600
Astron Belt Mock three, all that
stuff is you know there there are there's

2082
02:06:05.640 --> 02:06:10.520
standard arcade rams that are just you
know, being produced on a blue screen

2083
02:06:10.960 --> 02:06:15.439
and then the video gets dropped in
behind it and you just need the video

2084
02:06:15.680 --> 02:06:19.560
and then also some data about that
video, like a specific file. There's

2085
02:06:19.600 --> 02:06:24.840
a Daphne is the YEP is the
emulator of choice for laser disc stuff,

2086
02:06:26.159 --> 02:06:30.239
and that stuff's really neat to look
at. Now. I actually like the

2087
02:06:30.399 --> 02:06:34.159
video and astron Belt because it's all
these like very fast moving shots over very

2088
02:06:34.279 --> 02:06:39.439
tiny miniatures and tiny miniature trenches in
fake space and all this stuff. Like

2089
02:06:39.479 --> 02:06:44.560
it's just really neat looking weird shit. The games themselves are awful, but

2090
02:06:45.000 --> 02:06:47.760
you know whatever, on top of
it being super expensive, is that stuff

2091
02:06:47.800 --> 02:06:51.479
just like breaking down at this point, Like something like laser laser just driving

2092
02:06:51.479 --> 02:06:54.640
there, it's like going to be
next to impossible to repair. That think

2093
02:06:54.760 --> 02:07:00.159
some people stars trying to replace I
think I think someone's made a replacement or

2094
02:07:00.319 --> 02:07:03.359
the lasers Disc player in like a
Dragon's Layer machine with an SD card,

2095
02:07:03.800 --> 02:07:08.159
Okay, which is there's kind of
a trend to some of these games.

2096
02:07:08.279 --> 02:07:10.239
You know, like NFL Blitz has
a hard drive in it. There are

2097
02:07:10.359 --> 02:07:13.720
a handful of arcade machines that do
have drives, whether it's an optical drive

2098
02:07:14.039 --> 02:07:16.600
or a hard drive, and in
some of those cases, like those things

2099
02:07:16.600 --> 02:07:19.159
are starting to fail or to take
it a little bit too long to load.

2100
02:07:20.079 --> 02:07:24.479
So there are definitely cases of people
like I'm gonna make an SSD that

2101
02:07:25.079 --> 02:07:27.640
that has this Blitz drive that drive
on it, and it'll loads so fast.

2102
02:07:27.680 --> 02:07:30.239
That's super awesome. I keep thinking
about it. As an owner of

2103
02:07:30.520 --> 02:07:34.720
a Blitz machine, I would love
to like have that, have that be

2104
02:07:34.840 --> 02:07:39.399
faster. That's cool. Let's do
it. Do it, Yeah, let's

2105
02:07:39.439 --> 02:07:41.399
do it. I mean, the
Splitz machine out here is broken anyway,

2106
02:07:41.399 --> 02:07:45.520
we should probably open it up and
start trying to fix it seriously in the

2107
02:07:45.600 --> 02:07:47.479
state I want to play. Actually, I have like Steve Lynn actually gave

2108
02:07:47.520 --> 02:07:50.560
me a Blitz and Showtime Sports station
board that I should just bring in and

2109
02:07:50.560 --> 02:07:54.279
put in this cabinet. We should
just replace the one that is not working,

2110
02:07:55.720 --> 02:07:58.439
unless it's like a power like well, the way that thing heats up,

2111
02:07:58.520 --> 02:08:00.840
like it warms up and then dies, I wonder if it's like a

2112
02:08:00.960 --> 02:08:03.680
power I haven't had that issue as
a monitor. Okay, yeah, is

2113
02:08:03.720 --> 02:08:07.279
fine. You guys were gonna do
something with that machine a while back.

2114
02:08:07.359 --> 02:08:09.960
Yeah, like I played through together. I booted it up and played through

2115
02:08:09.960 --> 02:08:11.920
a full game of Blitz and I
was like, oh, this thing works,

2116
02:08:11.000 --> 02:08:13.159
and then left it on over the
weekend and it came back in Monday

2117
02:08:13.199 --> 02:08:16.479
and it was all fucked. So
I turned it off and back on and

2118
02:08:16.560 --> 02:08:18.199
I could play like a quarter of
Blitz and then it would just fucking black

2119
02:08:18.239 --> 02:08:20.359
out, and like, okay,
those things fuck. That sucks. So

2120
02:08:20.520 --> 02:08:24.319
I need to get the keys to
that machine from facilities so I can start

2121
02:08:24.399 --> 02:08:28.720
poking around at it. But I
don't actually know what to do. Drew.

2122
02:08:28.760 --> 02:08:31.199
You want to hear some crazy cold
war stuff? Yes, I do.

2123
02:08:31.439 --> 02:08:33.960
Okay, I haven't vetted any of
this info, but it came in

2124
02:08:33.079 --> 02:08:39.119
from Kevin. It's gotta be good
cold war Kevin. Yeah, that's him,

2125
02:08:39.680 --> 02:08:43.560
with the one and only on the
subject of crazy cold war stuff our

2126
02:08:43.600 --> 02:08:46.279
forefathers did. My grandfather was in
the US Air Force for about twenty years

2127
02:08:46.279 --> 02:08:50.039
immediately after World War Two. He
became a weatherman of all things, which

2128
02:08:50.039 --> 02:08:52.960
you'd expect to be really fucking boring, but he ended up in some of

2129
02:08:54.000 --> 02:08:58.239
the most extreme places in the world. His longest post was at ful tool

2130
02:08:58.399 --> 02:09:03.840
thhu Le Air Force Base, which
is a thousand miles north of the Arctic

2131
02:09:03.960 --> 02:09:07.600
Circle on the western side of Greenland. There he predicted weather over Russian airspace,

2132
02:09:07.760 --> 02:09:11.680
so you two spy planes could fly
safely and with no contrails. That's

2133
02:09:11.680 --> 02:09:16.279
a cool weather man. He was
integral to Project ice Worm, a failed

2134
02:09:16.279 --> 02:09:20.720
attempt to bury an entire ICBM base
in the ice of northern Greenland. He

2135
02:09:20.840 --> 02:09:24.880
and one other guy were stationed about
sixty five miles inland on top of the

2136
02:09:24.960 --> 02:09:28.359
ice cap, completely by themselves.
They were essentially the scouting party. My

2137
02:09:28.439 --> 02:09:33.560
grandfather studied weather patterns while the other
guy would spend literal hours catching snowflakes to

2138
02:09:33.600 --> 02:09:37.079
study how the snowpack would transform into
a glacier. This was a top secret

2139
02:09:37.119 --> 02:09:41.319
project that only was made public when
the Danish government did an inquiry into a

2140
02:09:41.399 --> 02:09:46.560
plane crash in nineteen ninety five,
meaning the US attempted to build a base

2141
02:09:46.680 --> 02:09:52.840
on foreign soil without that country's knowledge. Sweet, he's got some other Do

2142
02:09:52.920 --> 02:09:56.800
you want to hear some more factoids? Yes? From from this guy's time

2143
02:09:56.840 --> 02:10:00.800
there. Metal gear during the during
the project. A group of Inuit kids

2144
02:10:00.880 --> 02:10:05.279
walked there from their village on the
coast just to see the two crazy Americans.

2145
02:10:05.520 --> 02:10:09.119
Apparently they had just walked across sixty
five miles of the most inhospitable land

2146
02:10:09.159 --> 02:10:13.119
on Earth and back and did fine. The two of them were also caught

2147
02:10:13.199 --> 02:10:16.520
out by a sudden blizzard. According
to him, the weather there could change

2148
02:10:16.520 --> 02:10:18.039
in five minutes, and we're too
far away from their shelter. So they

2149
02:10:18.079 --> 02:10:22.720
built an igloo right there and nearly
froze to death. Omar Bradley also visited

2150
02:10:22.760 --> 02:10:26.520
and gave them a turkey dinner in
the middle of nowhere. It's a really

2151
02:10:26.560 --> 02:10:31.039
cool family story. Hard to believe
how many people actually were involved in serious

2152
02:10:31.119 --> 02:10:33.880
James Bond stuff back then. Ps. Fuck May and her shitty ice gun.

2153
02:10:35.439 --> 02:10:39.000
Yeah, yeah, I can get
behind that. Is that is awesome?

2154
02:10:39.119 --> 02:10:41.640
Yeah, that's a neat story,
assuming it's all true, which May's

2155
02:10:41.680 --> 02:10:46.960
ice gun is pretty cool. Oh
it's infuriating. Well, probably be helpful

2156
02:10:46.000 --> 02:10:50.239
in Greenland though, Yeah, why
we could use we could protect We probably

2157
02:10:50.239 --> 02:10:56.920
need more. You can make an
igloo like that, build nicklu Why did

2158
02:10:56.960 --> 02:11:01.239
they protect themselves against cold with the
most cold of materials you're blocking blocking the

2159
02:11:01.279 --> 02:11:05.680
wind man. Yeah, oh okay, Yeah, that air's very cold.

2160
02:11:07.479 --> 02:11:11.039
The logs or whatever like logs aren't
by nature cold like ice, and the

2161
02:11:11.119 --> 02:11:15.119
logs would be very cold. Just
everything is ice. Yeah. Kind of

2162
02:11:15.119 --> 02:11:18.079
a lot of ices. That checks
out, is my guess. Uh,

2163
02:11:18.279 --> 02:11:20.560
let's see a couple more emails.
Yeah, let's do two more emails.

2164
02:11:22.199 --> 02:11:26.960
Uh, Johnson from Michigan. I
wonder if that's their first name or last

2165
02:11:26.039 --> 02:11:31.840
name. That's how it was signed. Both extra John's son again, got

2166
02:11:31.880 --> 02:11:33.319
it? Got it? You know
John? Oh? John? Yeah,

2167
02:11:33.680 --> 02:11:37.680
this is his son, John Junior. I see that's how that works.

2168
02:11:37.399 --> 02:11:41.039
I recently was the victim of your
breaking and entering, and aside from my

2169
02:11:41.119 --> 02:11:43.640
luggage and laptop being taken away from
me, my PS four and Xbox one,

2170
02:11:43.720 --> 02:11:46.920
we're also stolen, along with plenty
of physical video games. I had

2171
02:11:46.960 --> 02:11:52.159
a massed over the years. Luckily, after screaming obscenities over the entire complex,

2172
02:11:52.239 --> 02:11:54.840
I had Renters insurance and was able
to get proof of ownership over the

2173
02:11:54.920 --> 02:12:00.319
missing items by photos and receipts,
all done painstakingly over an iPhone screen shot

2174
02:12:00.399 --> 02:12:03.840
marathon. Unfortunate events aside, I
wondered if you guys had also had anything

2175
02:12:03.920 --> 02:12:09.600
valuable, either monetary or intrinsic,
stolen from you, and how you dealt

2176
02:12:09.640 --> 02:12:13.479
with the sudden loss of things you
owned Renters and shirts. Yeah, yeah,

2177
02:12:13.520 --> 02:12:16.319
yeah, you've you. I thought
of your story immediately. Car Yeah

2178
02:12:16.560 --> 02:12:20.039
wait, car, a car a
couple years earlier at a GPS and iPod

2179
02:12:20.119 --> 02:12:22.600
and stuff. Oh, I thought
you put the car stole. No God,

2180
02:12:22.640 --> 02:12:26.439
no, no, somebody like some
cracking like broke into my car and

2181
02:12:26.560 --> 02:12:30.000
took that stuff. And also I
kept Xanax for anxiety stuff in my glove

2182
02:12:30.039 --> 02:12:33.439
compartment, and they stole the pills, of course, which just the boldness

2183
02:12:33.520 --> 02:12:37.399
of like, here are just some
unmarked pills. I guess I'll take these

2184
02:12:37.479 --> 02:12:39.319
and eat these. But I guess
if you're the type person who's breaking into

2185
02:12:39.359 --> 02:12:43.199
cars, whatever, if you look
at a pill and punch in the things

2186
02:12:43.239 --> 02:12:48.600
that are written on a pill into
there's a code on there. Yeah yeah,

2187
02:12:50.560 --> 02:12:52.319
but yeah, Renters insurance is cheap, and it can say maybe your

2188
02:12:52.319 --> 02:12:56.039
ass. Did you actually sit there
and itemize every game that you lost and

2189
02:12:56.439 --> 02:13:01.319
write those out? Yeah? I
even even a digitally I explained on think

2190
02:13:01.960 --> 02:13:05.840
on PlayStation and Xbox. I think
I was able to redownload all that stuff.

2191
02:13:07.359 --> 02:13:09.039
But if I remember right, I
think I had to be like man.

2192
02:13:09.199 --> 02:13:13.479
I reviewed so many goddamn we downloadable
virtual console things and I tried to

2193
02:13:13.560 --> 02:13:16.439
kind of like okay, well,
ay s ones or five bucks, and

2194
02:13:16.479 --> 02:13:18.399
I had this many of those and
yeah, Renters insurance. It's a giant

2195
02:13:18.439 --> 02:13:22.800
pain in the ass, but it
get Renters in surch Yes, yeah,

2196
02:13:24.439 --> 02:13:26.680
it's pretty cheap. My car got
broken into while we were working at the

2197
02:13:26.920 --> 02:13:33.880
Sasolito office and they stole my GPS
unit, which shows how long ago that

2198
02:13:33.039 --> 02:13:39.600
was. Uh, it was in
the parking lot of a police station right

2199
02:13:39.840 --> 02:13:43.359
right across the street. That's that's
bold. I don't remember that happening.

2200
02:13:45.359 --> 02:13:48.079
I remember that happening. Yeah,
it was like I had the thought I

2201
02:13:48.159 --> 02:13:52.279
walked up to my car and saw
like glass on the ground, and I

2202
02:13:52.359 --> 02:13:54.920
was like, oh, somebody's car
got broken into, and then actually had

2203
02:13:54.960 --> 02:13:58.119
the thought while my vision was still
there, that's what someone thinks when their

2204
02:13:58.239 --> 02:14:03.159
car gets broken into it and looked
up in my window was shattered. It's

2205
02:14:03.159 --> 02:14:09.399
a bummer. My riom has got
stolen off my Nova. Man steadies are

2206
02:14:09.399 --> 02:14:11.880
not the rooms you want to lose. They were well, they were not

2207
02:14:11.000 --> 02:14:15.560
the original rims or anything like that, but they were actually worth some money,

2208
02:14:16.600 --> 02:14:20.239
which is why they got stolen.
That will happen. Yeah, I

2209
02:14:20.399 --> 02:14:24.000
had a party at my place once
and there was a girl in my closet

2210
02:14:24.039 --> 02:14:28.079
trying to steal my change. I
had a jar for change changed like like

2211
02:14:28.199 --> 02:14:31.479
in there, just like it seems
like a hard thing to smuggle out if

2212
02:14:31.520 --> 02:14:33.600
there was a large quantity of it. There were enough people in the house

2213
02:14:33.640 --> 02:14:37.479
that you know, she probably could
have gotten away with it. Seemed not

2214
02:14:37.640 --> 02:14:39.399
remorseful. When I said, like, hey, get out of my closet

2215
02:14:39.439 --> 02:14:43.800
in my bedroom, She's like,
we had that might have been the one

2216
02:14:43.840 --> 02:14:48.119
we had to call the cops on. All right, last email it comes

2217
02:14:48.159 --> 02:14:54.119
in from hush uh. A friend
and I were talking about having a Nicholas

2218
02:14:54.199 --> 02:14:58.119
Cage movie marathon, and I was
going to recommend we watched them all in

2219
02:14:58.239 --> 02:15:03.560
chronological order, but I miss typed
and started typing in chronomaniacal and thought about

2220
02:15:03.600 --> 02:15:09.319
how amazing that would actually be.
Oh boy from his least crazy two most

2221
02:15:09.399 --> 02:15:13.119
crazy roles. Okay, maybe watching
all his movies is not the best idea,

2222
02:15:13.199 --> 02:15:16.359
but if you could pick a few
movies in chronomaniacal order, which movies

2223
02:15:16.359 --> 02:15:18.159
would Okay, where is he the
most? Say? I have not seen

2224
02:15:18.199 --> 02:15:22.439
the National Treasure movies, but is
he sane in that he's Okay, I

2225
02:15:22.560 --> 02:15:26.399
feel that I haven't seen like recent
stuff. So yeah, he's he's kind

2226
02:15:26.439 --> 02:15:30.159
of been making some questionable choices right
for a couple of years. Yeah,

2227
02:15:30.199 --> 02:15:35.479
especially like as of laid from what
I've believe the stuff or whatever. He's

2228
02:15:35.720 --> 02:15:39.199
he's pretty low key in raising Arizona. Okay, he's not like a cartoon

2229
02:15:39.319 --> 02:15:43.279
character in that he's not insane.
In The Rock, he's just a dork.

2230
02:15:43.319 --> 02:15:45.399
He's a He's a dork who's trying
to be a cool guy. Okay,

2231
02:15:45.439 --> 02:15:48.119
so is so is is is the
Rock at the beginning of this progression,

2232
02:15:48.279 --> 02:15:52.000
I mean he's super Nicholas Cagey and
he's like, oh the name of

2233
02:15:52.079 --> 02:15:54.279
Zeus is butthole, Like you know, like there are Nicholas Cagey moments.

2234
02:15:56.800 --> 02:16:00.560
It was some friging slack Like,
yeah, there's some major cage moments there.

2235
02:16:01.560 --> 02:16:05.239
God, I love that. I'd
say leaving Las Vegas, he's super

2236
02:16:05.319 --> 02:16:09.720
crazy and yeah that is man,
that's a movie. I saw that for

2237
02:16:09.720 --> 02:16:13.319
the first time a couple of years
ago. Hold shit, face off,

2238
02:16:13.720 --> 02:16:20.000
it depends there's two. Yeah,
Castor Troy or Shawn is a family man

2239
02:16:20.119 --> 02:16:24.920
who has to act crazy because that's
how Castor Troy would act. Can't let

2240
02:16:24.000 --> 02:16:28.800
Pollocks know that something's up. This
is getting really multilayered. So face off.

2241
02:16:28.840 --> 02:16:33.719
I'd say half pretty crazy. Half. I would say the character he

2242
02:16:33.920 --> 02:16:37.920
plays, I mean, is crazy
the entire time. He just just Nicolas

2243
02:16:37.959 --> 02:16:39.920
Cage doesn't play him for the entire
movie. But the character that he is

2244
02:16:41.479 --> 02:16:45.159
cast the bad guy, Yeah,
okay, Yeah, he's nuts. He's

2245
02:16:45.159 --> 02:16:50.680
a madman, Yeah, sanest person
Letton, Yeah, con Connor, he's

2246
02:16:50.680 --> 02:16:54.200
a pretty straightforward a wrongly imprisoned.
He murdered a man with his bare hands,

2247
02:16:54.920 --> 02:17:03.959
wrongly but still me come on,
he killed those people they were attacking,

2248
02:17:03.040 --> 02:17:07.879
His wife killed him. That's justifiable, justifiable, Yes, yes,

2249
02:17:07.159 --> 02:17:13.840
saying it's a little crazy someone,
I think it's finally crazy, maybe to

2250
02:17:15.479 --> 02:17:18.520
kill someone, but it's still it's
it's more crazy than the rock. I'm

2251
02:17:18.520 --> 02:17:22.360
not saying it's all the way crazy. And his time in jail made him

2252
02:17:22.360 --> 02:17:24.159
crazy. He fucking some shit happened, Yeah, and he was in jail,

2253
02:17:24.200 --> 02:17:26.159
so I'm sure he went a little
crazier in there, because that's that's

2254
02:17:26.239 --> 02:17:30.680
rough times in there. Uh so, yeah, con Air is crazier than

2255
02:17:30.719 --> 02:17:35.799
the rock Face Off is crazier than
conn Air. Has anyone seen The Wickerman

2256
02:17:35.479 --> 02:17:39.040
No? I have not, although
that is kind of on the short list

2257
02:17:39.120 --> 02:17:43.600
of movies my girlfriend and I are
gonna watch because I'm just pulling up his

2258
02:17:43.719 --> 02:17:46.239
filmography. I'm not either the Port
of Call in New Orleans. I think

2259
02:17:46.239 --> 02:17:48.239
he's supposed to be super crazy,
and I'm not saying this Drive Angry,

2260
02:17:48.360 --> 02:17:52.639
He's kind of straightforward. And then
what was Wait? No, is he

2261
02:17:52.799 --> 02:17:56.440
from Hell and Drive Angry? No, Satan comes back from Hell? No,

2262
02:17:56.680 --> 02:17:58.239
he's from hell? He comes back
from Hell? Or is that ghostwriter?

2263
02:17:58.280 --> 02:18:01.680
Am I going to consume? What? Who is ship? I've seen

2264
02:18:01.799 --> 02:18:03.760
Drive Angry like four times? Why
can't I put those driders? Johnny Blaze,

2265
02:18:03.799 --> 02:18:11.079
the iron Lung right method man?
What was what was that Cage movie

2266
02:18:11.120 --> 02:18:13.520
that Dave loved some knowing? Yeah, it's good. There was that in

2267
02:18:13.680 --> 02:18:16.239
next where it came out like the
same year and they were the exact same

2268
02:18:16.319 --> 02:18:20.000
concept. Yeah right, Yeah,
it's like he can see the future,

2269
02:18:20.159 --> 02:18:22.959
let's see, which I believe is
just you know, they just followed him

2270
02:18:24.000 --> 02:18:26.079
around and shot. Yeah, it's
a documentary stuff for a while. Those

2271
02:18:26.120 --> 02:18:28.360
are both documentary. Yeah. Throw
out a couple others here. Let's see

2272
02:18:28.600 --> 02:18:31.319
kickouse. What was I can't remember
what his role was. He was the

2273
02:18:31.440 --> 02:18:37.639
father. Wasn't he the father of
Chloe Mortz? Yeah? Not not especially

2274
02:18:37.799 --> 02:18:41.040
nuts in that one. No,
he's got a mustache. No, not

2275
02:18:41.120 --> 02:18:46.000
super nuts. Yeah. What was
a honeymoon in Vegas? See that's in

2276
02:18:46.079 --> 02:18:50.840
that. I never saw. That's
quirky. I get that confused with the

2277
02:18:50.879 --> 02:18:52.280
one where all the elvis is try
to rob a bank and I think Kurt

2278
02:18:52.319 --> 02:18:58.000
Russell, that's a great movie,
is it? Yes? I always felt

2279
02:18:58.000 --> 02:19:01.799
like I should have seen it as
iced tea hanging upside down from a rope

2280
02:19:01.840 --> 02:19:05.079
with two oozies just spinning and shooting. Okay, all right, okay,

2281
02:19:05.159 --> 02:19:11.559
okay, I think is that what's
the one? We're him and Dana Carvey

2282
02:19:11.600 --> 02:19:15.719
and John Levitts are brothers that rob
a bank in the snow. Yeah,

2283
02:19:15.840 --> 02:19:18.840
it's it's like a comedy where they're
like bumbling bank robbers. It came out

2284
02:19:18.879 --> 02:19:22.399
in like ninety four. I remember
liking it. Yeah. I think it

2285
02:19:22.440 --> 02:19:26.319
was John Levitts and maybe not Dana
Carvey. God, who's in that?

2286
02:19:26.719 --> 02:19:28.159
Is it? John Goodman? You
know, I'm thinking of raising Arizona again.

2287
02:19:28.280 --> 02:19:31.319
The movies he did around that time. Let's see Honeymoon in Vegas,

2288
02:19:31.479 --> 02:19:35.200
Red Rock West. It could happen
to you. None of these not ring

2289
02:19:35.280 --> 02:19:39.479
any bells? Maybe I really use
the Lottery Ticket movie with Bridget Fonda,

2290
02:19:39.639 --> 02:19:45.079
okay for crazy in though. Let's
go a little earlier nineties Vampires Kiss.

2291
02:19:45.159 --> 02:19:48.399
This is gonna drive me nuts.
What's that movie Wild at Heart? No?

2292
02:19:48.879 --> 02:19:52.920
No, no, that's not right. Yeah, yeah, smooth,

2293
02:19:52.040 --> 02:19:56.840
I'm gonna zonde the ring any bells? Maybe I'm just thinking that John Levitt,

2294
02:19:56.360 --> 02:19:58.920
can you look up John Levitt?
Happened before high School? High?

2295
02:20:00.000 --> 02:20:03.680
Whoops? John lovetts again? Yeah, we need to look up John.

2296
02:20:03.440 --> 02:20:07.200
I never saw High School High,
but I saw the commercial for High School

2297
02:20:07.559 --> 02:20:09.959
A little cop cars going through the
dreadlocks. Remember that that was the big

2298
02:20:11.239 --> 02:20:13.879
sight gag and the trailers. Yeah. I remember seeing the movie and thinking

2299
02:20:13.879 --> 02:20:16.319
it was funny when it came out. Probably has an age. Great.

2300
02:20:16.399 --> 02:20:18.959
Oh, you must be talking about
American Tale. Five Goes West. No,

2301
02:20:20.239 --> 02:20:24.680
that's the one bank robbery. Dude, I don't know. He could

2302
02:20:24.680 --> 02:20:26.799
have been earlier. He did a
lot of movies around that era. North

2303
02:20:28.000 --> 02:20:30.840
Love It, Get Work. No. North was the thing with Oliver No

2304
02:20:31.239 --> 02:20:33.319
Elijah Wood, wasn't it. Yeah, Oh my god, it's in the

2305
02:20:33.399 --> 02:20:35.479
snow. It's on the cover.
It's the three brothers. Do you know

2306
02:20:35.520 --> 02:20:37.360
what I'm talking about. They're all
like bundled up. They're like, hey,

2307
02:20:37.399 --> 02:20:41.760
we're idiots, but we're gonna rob
this bank. I'm not. Oh,

2308
02:20:41.840 --> 02:20:43.600
this is gonna drive me fucking insane. Love It is definitely in it.

2309
02:20:45.040 --> 02:20:48.959
It's you love it. I'm pretty
sure it's lovetts. I'm not seeing

2310
02:20:50.000 --> 02:20:54.680
anything. Bum blank bank robbery.
It's like the beginning of GTA five,

2311
02:20:54.920 --> 02:21:00.879
but with John Lovett's Paradise. Now
I'm sold. I don't see anything the

2312
02:21:01.000 --> 02:21:05.280
sounds remotely like that. We gotta
move on, Yeah, we gotta move

2313
02:21:05.840 --> 02:21:09.159
I can't have this. I can't
have a Nicolas Cage conversation anymore too much.

2314
02:21:09.280 --> 02:21:11.479
That's there you go. There's there's
your totally randomly ordered list. I

2315
02:21:11.520 --> 02:21:13.680
gotta tick Twitter right away. I'm
sure people have already tweted to me.

2316
02:21:13.879 --> 02:21:16.440
Yes, I'm sure thanks to the
live bombcasts you will find out shortly.

2317
02:21:16.639 --> 02:21:20.159
Chronomaniacal is a really good word.
That's great. Yeah, podcast jat on

2318
02:21:20.200 --> 02:21:24.159
dot com. That's all the emails
that I got. I just looked at

2319
02:21:24.159 --> 02:21:26.280
the camera for the first time this
whole show. That's weird. Probably shouldn't

2320
02:21:26.319 --> 02:21:30.600
do that, Drew, how did
it go? GOODA thank you? I'm

2321
02:21:30.600 --> 02:21:33.479
still running. Yeah, hold together, I'm looking at chat just enough to

2322
02:21:33.559 --> 02:21:37.959
make sure that the stream is dead. Nothing is actually on fire. Yeah,

2323
02:21:37.000 --> 02:21:41.520
and it's not on fire yet.
Digital rappids continue to flow. Yeah,

2324
02:21:41.799 --> 02:21:46.120
yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's
a there's an there's a light.

2325
02:21:46.239 --> 02:21:50.319
It's not a red Okay, all
right, time is probably limited there.

2326
02:21:50.319 --> 02:21:54.079
We should probably shut this thing down, stressing that machine in ways it was

2327
02:21:54.159 --> 02:21:56.399
never designed for well, it is
designed for this. I just don't know

2328
02:21:56.440 --> 02:21:58.520
what's happening. Okay, all right, that's the thing. We're still going

2329
02:21:58.559 --> 02:22:01.120
out to the internet. So the
thing is a black box trapped in paradise.

2330
02:22:01.479 --> 02:22:05.440
You just said that. Yeah,
yeah, it sounded kind of familiar.

2331
02:22:05.479 --> 02:22:07.920
That's definitely it. Okay, all
right, now you know now you

2332
02:22:07.959 --> 02:22:15.719
can add your cage Parathon sweet Lord
of Awesome cage Man. He's the best.

2333
02:22:16.280 --> 02:22:20.159
I mean, he has a National
Treasure snake eyes. Yeah, a

2334
02:22:20.239 --> 02:22:24.799
really good movie. What are your
thoughts on eight milimeter. I am one

2335
02:22:24.879 --> 02:22:28.319
of the six people that thought that
eight millimeter was a Okay, I didn't

2336
02:22:28.399 --> 02:22:39.680
James Gandel, Phoenie it's a snuff
felt stuff doesn't existwoauin Phoenix and Machine Movie

2337
02:22:39.760 --> 02:22:41.520
like, it's only kind of controversial
when it came out, or people it

2338
02:22:41.600 --> 02:22:43.639
was, since it was about stuff
films. They were like, it's so

2339
02:22:43.879 --> 02:22:48.399
edgy and you watch it like,
no, it's fucking I never saw the

2340
02:22:48.440 --> 02:22:54.159
sequel. Oh yeah, squel without
Nicolas Cage directive video kind of thing or

2341
02:22:54.200 --> 02:22:58.079
something. It's like seeing elimeter.
Yeah, that's good, it's good.

2342
02:22:58.079 --> 02:23:00.680
I was trying to think of So
that's that's a good one. All right,

2343
02:23:00.879 --> 02:23:03.120
that's gonna do it. Then,
for our very first live bomb cast,

2344
02:23:03.200 --> 02:23:07.719
seems to have gone reasonably well.
Nobody's on fire. Yeah, that's

2345
02:23:07.719 --> 02:23:11.159
a good thing. We would probably
get out of here before somebody spontaneously can

2346
02:23:11.200 --> 02:23:15.200
busts. Thanks for listening, Thanks
for watching. We'll be back next week,

2347
02:23:15.440 --> 02:23:16.520
same time, same place.