WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:07.519 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:14.640 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions katz R 3 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:19.760 two SAD at iHeartRadio Station. Good afternoon, Welcome down to the ball here 4 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:23.000 on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm the host for the day, Jay Gonzalez. 5 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:26.760 Steve is on the road again, headed to LA for the Sweet sixteen 6 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:31.559 to catch a Cat's so there. He's somewhere, probably around and a blythe 7 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:34.159 or so right now, so it might be in the middle of nowhere. 8 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:37.799 Not again again again. We're gonna try and get him on the phone a 9 00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:42.520 little later. But I'm been wanting to get this guy in the studio for 10 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:45.719 a long time. I'm going to say an old friend, but not that 11 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:49.719 you're old. Greg just said we've known each other for a really long time, 12 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:54.600 going on forty years, which is crazy. But Greg Hanson, a 13 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:58.399 columnist with the years on Daily Star, sort of a part timer now, 14 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:03.600 is probably spending more time on the golf course than then at the computer right 15 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:08.840 six this morning, guys in the rain, Oh my god, So Greg's 16 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:11.640 here, And then we've got Analysa's here running the board for us today, 17 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:17.439 and Leise had had a weekend in San Jose, so back from that alive 18 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:21.079 and you look, well, thanks. It was a wedding, so it 19 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:23.439 takes a lot out of it. I bet it does. So lots to 20 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:26.879 talk about today. We've got to I think a pretty good show. We've 21 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:30.959 got Josh Passner coming in, former Arizona player, Georgia Tech and Memphis coach 22 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:37.280 ESPN basketball analysts. He'll be with us in the first in the first hour 23 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:38.959 to just talk about this sweet sixteen and you know, his thoughts on what's 24 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:42.959 going on in the tournament so far. Josh's always got stuff to say. 25 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:48.120 He's a natural, isn't he yes him, Yeah, oh yeah, he's 26 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:52.120 got two feet worth of him stacks the paper. Yeah. I told him 27 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:56.280 the first time I saw him in studio, you know, the two guys 28 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:57.760 next him had like, you know, three or four pieces of paper and 29 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:01.120 he had like a mountain of a mountain of paper. And I made fun 30 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:05.760 of him, but you know, you knew that he you know, he's 31 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:08.000 a workaholic, does the stuff, and you know, I mean I remember 32 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:10.879 one time we he came and spoke to a group that I was a part 33 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:19.759 of, and he had three cell phones, not two. Three. Yeah, 34 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:23.639 I guess your recruiter. Yeah yeah, they probably look Richardson. I 35 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:27.120 know I had multiple. Yeah yeah, so but you know, so we 36 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:29.919 know Josh, so Josh will be on here and then as I as I 37 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:32.360 mentioned, we're going to get As of now, we've got Steve's scheduled to 38 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:37.319 come into four fifteen. Trying to get another guest that hopefully we hear from 39 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:40.520 here, but if we don't, that'll be the schedule for today. Lots 40 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:44.960 going on, lots to talk about. We got the NCAA tournaments. Bring 41 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:51.240 football started today, spring practice, Major League Baseball is getting ready, well 42 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.599 kind of started. Okay, you're you're a peurist. Right to the two 43 00:02:54.680 --> 00:03:00.280 Dodger padres games in Korea last week, they really they counted. And now 44 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:02.960 the Dodgers come back during the Freeway series with with the Angels and then they 45 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:09.280 resumed their season. I hate that. I hope they don't keep doing it 46 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:14.439 every year, but I bet they do, because it's it's like Larry Scott's 47 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:17.479 specific rim basketball game. Yeah it didn't work. Yeah, and the games 48 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:21.280 are on too sometime they're on at three o'clock in the morning. It's not 49 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:24.240 like you got viewers, right. I caught the tail end of the second 50 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:27.840 game because it went three and a half hours, because it was a fifteen 51 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:30.680 to eleven game. But I caught the last inning because I you know, 52 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:34.159 I woke up at a little after six o'clock and it was still on. 53 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:38.080 So it's not I mean, I don't understand other than let's go to Korea 54 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:40.840 like you said, you know, like Larry Scott tried to do, or 55 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:46.039 the you know, playing NBA games in China or whatever, or now NFL 56 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:50.159 games. Yeah, maybe five or six per year in Europe. Yeah, 57 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:52.400 yeah. So anyway, I didn't like that either. I mean, I 58 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:53.680 don't like the fact that there's these stats already. We had to do our 59 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:57.800 draft last week instead of this week. You know, I hated that, 60 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:00.759 you know, to get it ahead of those game. So I hated that. 61 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:05.840 Anyways, let's greg your thoughts on what's going on so far in the 62 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:11.520 tournament. I think it's very chalky. You know, you got one double 63 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:15.120 digit seed and then after that nothing lower than a six. I'm surprised by 64 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:19.360 that. But to me, what came through from the weekend was when Yale 65 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:26.240 and Colorado were playing simultaneous and Yell won and Colorado lost. That was I 66 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:28.879 was standing up in my living room jumping up and down and yelling at the 67 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:31.800 TV set. That's more excited than I've been at a ball game for a 68 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:34.600 long long time. That was awesome that they were on at the same time. 69 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:38.839 I had one on my phone one on the TV. Yeah. Yeah, 70 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:41.959 we did the two TV thing in my house, which I never do. 71 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:45.639 You know, with n Cuba tournament. You know, I've got one 72 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:47.279 TV. Now, I'll do it for college football, like if Arizona's playing 73 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:50.040 and I want you don't want to see another game at the same time. 74 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:56.240 But for the for the tournament, I'll just I'll flip channels. But we 75 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:00.879 had two TVs and we were doing that and that was cool. It's funny. 76 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:02.879 What a sucker I am. And I'm guessing most people are for the 77 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:08.079 underdog. Yeah who listened, right, and somebody like, you know what 78 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:11.800 that was the whole year to me? Yeah? Or Oakland? You know 79 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:15.560 when Oakland took down Kentucky. They're still talking about that. Yeah, but 80 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:19.120 they're still talking about Oakland because you know, do we fire John cal Party, 81 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:23.040 do we not. I don't know that they can, but or that 82 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:26.160 they even will, just because of the money involved. Yeah, so Oakland, 83 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:31.000 Oakland spends one point eight million dollars a year in basketball. Entucky spends 84 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:38.480 twenty four millions. That's that's it's crazy. But it's all about who plays 85 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:41.680 better that night. Yeah, and Oakland had the best player on the floor, 86 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:44.279 that guard that three point shooter. Yeah. Yeah, man, he 87 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:47.079 better enter the portal and come to his own He could, right, he 88 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:51.279 could, and he could come. Yeah, he's been around. He's got 89 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:55.639 a high hairline. He looks like he's been around for a while. I 90 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:58.120 thought that was pretty funny. But it was fun, I mean the first 91 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:03.079 even though there weren't as many big upsets as you'd normally see, I thought 92 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:05.959 it was still a lot of fun. I think the games were compelling. 93 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:11.319 That that Houston Texas and m game on Sunday night, I mean that was 94 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:15.759 crazy. I unfortunately had Houston minus the points in that. I was very 95 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:18.360 upset that they blew a i think an eleven point lead in the last few 96 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:24.319 minutes of the game, which pissed me off. And the sun Devils we 97 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:29.920 had Doug Tamerroll on yesterday, and I resisted, resisted any Sun Devil jokes 98 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:32.519 because you know, he's he's running the Final four meet up there. I'm 99 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:34.839 work for him up there. Yeah, I'm going up there to work. 100 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:38.720 So I didn't I didn't want him to give me the crap assignment like Candy 101 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:44.319 Nott credentials or something like that. So completely stayed away from from me any 102 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:48.560 ash jokes. Right, you know their last Sweet sixteen it was nineteen ninety 103 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:57.920 four. Wow, issue that was who had idiagu or Mario Bennett? Wow? 104 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:02.120 No, it was ninety five, Well, who's counting when you're going? 105 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:09.040 Before that it was eighty one, Yeah, Byron Scott and those guys 106 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:12.759 forty three years too? Sweet sixteen? What are they gonna do? What 107 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:15.000 do you think? I mean? Do you I mean, what can you 108 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:19.199 do with Bobby Hurley? Right? I mean he's clearly not getting there? 109 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:24.759 Right? Nine years? You know, I mean he's had a couple of 110 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:27.000 good years. He was in the tournament, I guess last year. But 111 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:30.600 what do you do with that? And there's no film can who can you 112 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:34.279 get to come in? They've got the most bland guys ever, Herb Sandick, 113 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:40.920 Rob Evans and then Hurley is not Bland obviously, but before him they 114 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:43.839 set the standard. There is no standard. Yeah, my, my one 115 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:46.759 of my visions of Herb Syndick because it was at the at the Pac twelf 116 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:51.120 tournament when it was still at the MGM Grand at the MGM Arena, and 117 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:55.439 they had just been eliminated, and it was you know, we had come 118 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:59.279 out of the arena, games were over, we were hungry. We go 119 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.759 over to that food court that was there in the you know, and there's 120 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:05.399 Herb sendeck. He did a big mac. We saw him sitting alone, 121 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:11.600 sitting alone, he did a big mac, looking at his phone and just 122 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:13.360 there and he got fired when he got home, right, yeah, believes 123 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:18.079 so then it wasn't that when he and it was like, you know, 124 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:24.800 would Ludelson have been sitting there McDonald's, you know, by himself, you 125 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.879 know, having a big mac after after getting eliminated from the tournament. No, 126 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:33.440 Lut's always had the day they got eliminated in his suite. The next 127 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:37.679 day he would have a press conference. And the one I remember more than 128 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:41.360 he was nineteen ninety two in Atlanta, East Tennessee statement, right, and 129 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:50.039 you know Luke wasn't really welcoming questions. But I remember I asked him on 130 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:54.000 what do you say to people who are criticizing you or whatnot? Right? 131 00:08:54.039 --> 00:09:00.360 And he goes, show me your resume. He was always ready with that 132 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:03.320 stuff. You know, he was always very well. I was telling the 133 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:07.120 story yesterday the answer he gave me because we were talking about that eighty seven 134 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:11.360 loss at home Shawn Elliott sophomore year at home in the NC DOUBLEA Tournament. 135 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:13.480 And I'm sure you were at the press conference and I asked one of the 136 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:18.720 first questions. I said, you know, you've lost however many double digit 137 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:24.679 leads in the second half all year long. Have you figured out or do 138 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.600 you know why that happened all year? And he said, you saw the 139 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.320 games? You tell me. And I'm like, I'm not the coach, 140 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:37.440 right, And that was that was the answer to that. And you know, 141 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:41.320 I mean, look, he he built his career. He had a 142 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:43.960 great career. I guess if you know, when it goes bad, he 143 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:46.840 has he can do whatever he wants. But I just remember some of those 144 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:52.240 times. Yeah, yeah, and he I mean, and just he hated 145 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:56.200 losing obviously, so you know, what the hell? But yeah, of 146 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:58.320 course it did and and you know, I mean Did's legend, so you 147 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.120 know, his fine. But we had our experiences with him, both of 148 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:05.120 us did, and it was it was always interesting, that's for sure. 149 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:07.799 I mean, he's he was mad at me for a really long time after 150 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:11.840 the Alabama loss the last game that I covered, a lost to Alabama in 151 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:16.960 the second round in Long Beach when and not because of anything I asked him, 152 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:24.919 just because of my story when Judd Butschler said they weren't ready and he 153 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:26.679 thought it was a you know, he thought it was a shot at him 154 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:31.000 when when Judd said that, and he got mad at me for jud saying 155 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:33.440 that. And I'm like, Judd said it, I didn't say it. 156 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.360 You know, he didn't talk to me for a really long time after that 157 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:41.279 one after they qualified for the Final four and ninety four. Yeah, in 158 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:46.759 the sports arena, right, he went off for at least a half hour. 159 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:50.320 Remember that about the Tucson media, Yeah, because they just had to 160 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.279 two back to back first round exodus. Yeah, And I remember I was 161 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:56.039 sitting by a guy from the Chicago Tribune and about halfway through, he goes 162 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:05.080 the Tucson newspapers like the New York Post never was but anyways, sorry, 163 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:07.440 we're digressing. So, you know, back to the tournament though, it's 164 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:11.360 you know, I I like I like the I like the Sweet sixteen because 165 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:16.799 you know, without all those UPSs, you've got some really good games. 166 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:20.440 You know, the the the Houston Duke game I think is going to be 167 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:26.919 a war, you know, you know, uh who uh, there's a 168 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:28.759 there's a whole bunch of them that I'm like, these are gonna be fun. 169 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:33.879 I'd rather see Houston playing Duke than than James Madison. Yeah, right, 170 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.080 stuff like that. You know, when when you when you've got to 171 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:39.679 when you get to the second weekend, those are the games that you want 172 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:43.240 to see at least I do. What do you got Houston? I've got 173 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:48.960 Houston, I I you know, I say their thirty five victory though, 174 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:52.000 was it like thirty five points? Yeah, the Duke looked really good. 175 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:56.639 I don't think it's going to be as easy as you might have thought going 176 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:00.639 in because they looked really good against but it was James Madison. And how 177 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:03.240 over matched were they I don't know. I mean, everybody said James Madison 178 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:05.600 was really good, but they absolutely and they went what I'm looking at the 179 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.559 record thirty one and three, but they didn't face anybody like Duke along the 180 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.360 way. Duke's really good. Duke got as many good players as Houston. 181 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:18.639 Yeah, so I I mean, I'd still take I'd still take Houston. 182 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:22.639 But you know, I watched Houston lose by thirty to Iowa State. I 183 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:26.919 watched that game and I'm like, Okay, you guys aren't any good, 184 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.519 right, you know. And it was the morning. It was the morning 185 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:35.240 after you know, Arizona had lost to had lost to Oregon, and I'm 186 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:39.600 like, everybody's losing, so, you know, to me, it was 187 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:43.480 kind of like, I hope I watching that game, I was like, 188 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.799 Okay, Arizona fan, what do you have to say about this? If 189 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:50.919 you're pissed off that Arizona didn't get Oregon? And then that's kind of where 190 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.639 where I was. But you know, you got I'm like North Carolina State 191 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:56.720 all of a sudden, you know, what the hell? You know, 192 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:00.000 they got a big dude in the middle. They were just talking about. 193 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:03.919 I was listening. He's a big dude, they say. They listen him 194 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:07.080 at two seventy five, and somebody said he's he's well over three and change, 195 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:11.039 well over three and change. But Purdue Gonzaga all of a sudden, 196 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:16.200 Gonzaga is something. You know, there's just a whole creton A tendency. 197 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:18.200 I mean that whole right side of the bracket. I think they're all good 198 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.320 games. So those are all on on Friday night, so I'm looking forward 199 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:26.200 to that. What struck me about the toughness of the field was the Athletic 200 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:31.200 today ranked one through sixteen. Yeah, and they had fifteen Clemson and sixteen 201 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:33.799 North Carolina State, and I thought I wouldn't want to play either of those 202 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:39.159 teams in the ranked fifteenth and sixteenth right right now? That's yeah exactly. 203 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:41.600 They have Arizona. I think they were Yeah, they were at five. 204 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.759 You know. Look, and you know Arizona can win this thing. I 205 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:48.399 mean, I you know, I think we think they can. The question 206 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:52.679 is will they Will they play like they need to play? You know, 207 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:56.759 I thought Dayton was a bad matchup for them, and they played defense like 208 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:03.639 crazy. Yeah, there's two ways to win. You win, You win 209 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:07.039 it by getting to the final four, and then the final four is a 210 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:09.799 different win. Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's true. All right, 211 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.480 we're going to take our break. We're coming up. Josh Passner is going 212 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:16.360 to join us. We'll kick some more of this around. We're here with 213 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.559 Greg Hansen and analyis. Here a lot of stuff to talk about, a 214 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.519 lot of great matchups. We'll see what Josh thinks of those ESPN analysts. 215 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.600 I think one of the really good ones to come along recently. Boy he's 216 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:31.120 a natural. Yeah, he really is, all right, So stick around. 217 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:35.120 Josh Passner coming right up. Make the right choice for your home when 218 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:39.440 it comes to windows and doors. 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Gowhead and dial him up again, and lease, go ahead, 292 00:20:02.799 --> 00:20:04.359 hit the button, all right, so, uh we'll get him on 293 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:07.160 here in a second. We're texting back and forth. He missed our call, 294 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:11.799 then we missed him calling us back. So this is the live radio 295 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:17.119 that you get once in a while. But I'm here with Greg Hanson, 296 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:19.799 a longtime columnists at the airs on the daily start, somebody I got a 297 00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:25.880 chance to work with for a very long time. And God, now I 298 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:30.559 think that's that's a different call. Try it again. Analy got a call. 299 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.559 Yeah, it's what part of it is. Our is our phones. 300 00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:41.720 Okay, here we go, Hey, Josh, is that you? I'm 301 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:42.759 here all right, man? Sorry about that. A little screw up. 302 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:45.799 We first started having trouble with our phone and then you we called you, 303 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:48.880 you called us. We got to figure it out. Thanks for Thanks for 304 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:52.599 doing this, man, I appreciate it. I've got I don't know if 305 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:56.359 this is a price per I got. Greg Hanson sitting here is my guest 306 00:20:56.400 --> 00:20:59.839 co host today. I think you maybe know Greg from days gone by. 307 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:03.319 Of course, non'll be telling Hello, Greg, how you doing. I 308 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:04.920 had to ask you a question. Are you willing to be the new head 309 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:10.799 coach at Utah State? You know what? Do you haven't in there? 310 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:14.839 Greg? Yes? I do. I'm being serious. I was. I 311 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:18.119 think that's a great job. Look at you, Look at what here? 312 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:21.279 Greg? Do you really have it? I mean no, I've been serious, 313 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:22.599 Greg. Do you really have an in Yeah? Two of the former 314 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:26.920 head coaches there were my high school coaches, and uh, they've got a 315 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:30.440 lot of influence in the richest sky in town, the biggest support of the 316 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:37.440 athletic department played high school baseball with me. So if you don't mind calling, 317 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:38.640 if you don't mind, I think it's a great job. If you 318 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:41.920 don't mind calling when when you're after the show, and let me know if 319 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:47.480 I can get in there. Oh, they'd probably hire you tonight. Let 320 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:51.480 me know by the way that Josh, you know this is on the air 321 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:59.720 right are on the air right now. I'm sorry, man, told I'm 322 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:02.880 giving our time. It's all good, but I was, Hey, it's 323 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:04.160 a good job. There's no doubt. I'm being serious. It's a good 324 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:07.680 job. And Greg can get me in there or I got nothing else. 325 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:11.119 Hey, I got nothing else going on right now? Okay, Josh, 326 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:14.720 But then you got to hire me as your PR guy over there, right, 327 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:18.200 Hey, whatever it takes, but you know what, and I'll I'll 328 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:21.319 see if Tommy Lloyd wants to be my assistant exactly. But I'm only going 329 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:22.759 to do it remotely because I'm not moving up there. Okay, just too 330 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:26.000 damn call that's Greg. Ask Greg if I were you out to ask Greg 331 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:29.079 if i'll just part of the thing in Utah State. They hired me, 332 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:30.880 and I'll bring Tommy Lloyd with me as he can be my associated coach. 333 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:36.640 I have to move, That's right. Greg, would be a big I'd 334 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:38.680 be in big trouble too if all that came together. Well, John, 335 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:41.160 Okay, so Josh, we got your job. So now let's uh, 336 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:47.400 let's talk about the NCUAA tournament. You know, it's been an interesting week. 337 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:49.240 Greg and I were talking about not as many upsets, but still, 338 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:53.039 but I think the Sweet sixteen is really interesting. What what do you think? 339 00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:57.480 What what's your general impression of what's going on so far? Yeah? 340 00:22:57.599 --> 00:23:02.519 No, I mean, look, first of all, I think it's been 341 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:07.039 a great tournament the first obviously last week, from Tuesday all the way through 342 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:10.880 Sunday. The play it from the excuse me, the first four all the 343 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:15.720 way to Sunday to the finishing of round to thirty two, just absolutely tremendous 344 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:22.839 games, great matchups, great finishes, which sets up for a great you 345 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.039 know, Sweet sixteen and Elite Eights coming up on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, 346 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:30.799 Sunday of this week. I said it when the brackets were announced that 347 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:37.200 Thursday, excuse me, Yeah, the Thursday Saturday, North Carolina Arizona, 348 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:41.880 you know, for this upcoming Thursday Saturday, assuming they both win Thursday and 349 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.759 in the Elite eight game Saturday, I had said that Arizona North Carolina had 350 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:52.039 the easiest path to get to the Elite eight, and then those two playing, 351 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:59.559 it's a complete toss up. I gave the advantage Arizona just strictly based 352 00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:03.200 on on the crowd support being in the West Coast. They're being in Los 353 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:08.279 Angeles that Arizona would draw and as great knows better than most, you know, 354 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:14.319 the fans that would travel to that game and be there in Los Angeles 355 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:18.160 to support Arizona. So I think both those teams are going to the Elite 356 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:19.920 Eight. I've got and it's a toss up with it. Like I said, 357 00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:25.359 as vantage Arizona based on crowd support. I've got Yukon playing Iowa State 358 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:30.720 in the Elite Eight, with Iowa State actually beating Yukon. I just I 359 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:34.079 love Iowa State. I think they're very similar to University of Houston. I 360 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:40.759 love University of Houston. I think they're going to win the entire national championship. 361 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:44.680 And I've got for Due as my other team going to the Planal four. 362 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:48.640 So I've got for Due Arizona with a slight edge over North Carolina just 363 00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:56.559 based on fans support Iowa State and University of Houston. With Houston playing Iowa 364 00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:00.680 State in the championship and then Houston winning it all. You know, that's 365 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:03.119 not a bad I mean, that's that's a great feel for that, you 366 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:06.759 know, But there's a lot of teams that you can put in there and 367 00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:11.160 say that would be a great Final four. Is there a team that's your 368 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:15.960 impression of them has changed dramatically after the first weekend, Like for me, 369 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:18.400 it's Purdue, and you know, you know, I was on I was 370 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:22.240 like everybody else, thinking, Okay, Purdue, they have a history of 371 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:26.400 of you know, flaming out early. Now I think they can win the 372 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.960 whole damn thing. After watching him a couple of times, Well, no, 373 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.160 I was gonna say about Purdue. Look the whole thing with Purdue, 374 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:38.559 because I I did. I covered a Big Ten basketball this year with NBC 375 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:44.119 Sports Peacocks. I saw a lot of Purdue, and I saw a lot 376 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:48.880 of Big Ten teams and a lot of Big Ten basketball and Purdue Zach ed 377 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:52.680 he's been outstanding all year long, back to back, you know, National 378 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.000 Player of the Year and he's just been a tremendous player. But the X 379 00:25:56.079 --> 00:26:02.279 factors for Purdue are Braden Smith or point go guard and Fletcher Lawyer there they're 380 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:06.920 kind of their two guards. They did recruit this kid, Lance Jones from 381 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.599 Southern Illinois, who's a great athlete. Gives them an extra dimension. But 382 00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:15.599 the X factor is Brayden Smith and Fletcher Lawyer. Braydon Smith's one of the 383 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:19.559 top five point guards in college basketball this year. And you know last year 384 00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:22.839 when they lost in that first round, part of it was the play of 385 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:27.000 Fletcher Lawyer Brayden Smith. Now those two were freshmen, they didn't play well. 386 00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:30.200 And or if you look at the year this year, when when they 387 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.880 lost Perdue, at any point they lost this year, it was quickly because 388 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:41.160 Braden Smith and Fletcher Lawyer didn't play well. So it really comes down to 389 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:47.559 those two playing well, to those two making shots, you know, making 390 00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:51.359 open threes, not turning the ball over. And I just think that with 391 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:53.720 those two being a year older, Brayden Smith just being one of the toughest 392 00:26:53.759 --> 00:27:02.319 guards in the country, I just do not perceive, do not foresee Purdue 393 00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:03.720 not getting to the final four. And I would tell you this Utah State 394 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.359 going back to Utah State with Greg Hanson, you know, as we were 395 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:11.839 trying to as I was hoping to have the job finished in the next sixteen 396 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.559 minutes, the next Utah State head coached. But but, but but in 397 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:19.160 all seriousness, Utah State's really good this year. I mean, Danny Sprinkle 398 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:25.559 did an incredible job, and Purdue just manhandled them, you know what I 399 00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:30.400 mean, I mean just completely just blistered them. And and that's a really 400 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:36.839 good Utah State team that was has good players and older veteran players, that's 401 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:38.480 extremely well coached. And it wasn't even I mean, it was just a 402 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:41.640 you know, they smashed them. So that should tell you a lot about 403 00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:47.960 Purdue right there on what they did to Utah State and me understanding how good 404 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:51.200 Utah State is this year, this past season. I'd love to see Matt 405 00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:56.359 Painter win the national title. He seems like one of the nicest collected guys 406 00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.839 in college basketball. He's page his dues. You know, he beat Loot 407 00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:03.279 and Loot's last game. Yeah that's right. Purdue eliminatede Arizona in two thousand 408 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:07.519 and seven, and he was a beginner then and here he is seventeen years 409 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.400 later. He's had like five first round clunkers. I'd love to see him 410 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.319 winning. Yeah, that is correct. I was on the bench in that 411 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:22.279 game when Purdue beat US with Matt Painter, but Matt's had mats and Matt 412 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.920 Painter is an incredible coach, one of the very best to do it greg 413 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:30.000 probably the only thing missing on his resume as a Final four appearance, and 414 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.480 that's as we all know, that's so hard to do. But I would 415 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.440 tell you that, you know, there was a stretch there at for due 416 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:40.960 or they were they were wanting him fired. This was in kind of the 417 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.079 twenty eleven. I don't know the exact years, but it was early in 418 00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:48.119 the twenty tens, eleven, twelve or thirteen four somewhere in that area. 419 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:53.039 Get three tough years and they were not happy with him at all. And 420 00:28:53.880 --> 00:29:00.119 credit to his administration for sticking by him and didn't caught up in anything. 421 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.839 And I don't know if he would have survived in today's climate. You know, 422 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.039 they might have been gone it because you know, within today's climate, 423 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:12.240 you know, guys are being let go very quickly. And so really credit 424 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:18.279 to his the athletic director and their administration on sticking with Matt and it's sure 425 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:23.200 paid off. That's what's rare about Clemson. Brandell was just like you were 426 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:29.119 talking about Painter. He was on he was on the he was on the 427 00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:32.799 line for about three years, and they kept re upping him and they finally 428 00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:36.480 got to the I think they won one tournament game into twenty one, and 429 00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:40.680 they re upped him through twenty six. So I mean his winning percentage, 430 00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:45.359 and here they are, he's the winning He's the winningest coach in Clemson history. 431 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:49.319 And and again I agree Greg, I mean, it's I love it 432 00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:53.720 when guys are maybe going through a little threats of struggles and instead of just 433 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:56.880 kicking him to the curb or firing them, they you stick with them another 434 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.039 year or two and and it usually works a out when you have a good 435 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.119 coach. And you know, that's that's just part of the profession. And 436 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:08.480 I was so credit to Clemson's administration for stick and buy them, and it's 437 00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:11.400 obviously paid off. He's you know, he's in the sweet sixteen. Is 438 00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.880 a very very good coach. Arizona's going to have their hands full now. 439 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.119 I think Arizona's going to win the game. They're just more talented now with 440 00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:26.160 Clemson's an extreme is a high level execution team both in the half court, 441 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:29.920 on the both ends of the floor offensively and defensively, and they have good 442 00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.640 players. Now they can't if this becomes a track meet, it's all about 443 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.759 Arizona. But if it becomes a grinder, the smash mouth execution just strictly 444 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.119 in the half court. Clemson can give them problems because they do that as 445 00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.599 well as anybody, and the way they execute on both sides of the ball 446 00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:48.200 and in more of a half court controlled setting. So I hope you a 447 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:51.279 good game, but I think in the end, Arizona will just fail to 448 00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:56.440 overpower them. They've got the more they've got, you know, the deeper 449 00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.400 talent, more talent, and that should prevail when it's all said done. 450 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:06.319 Did you get to watch all or most of the Arizona Dayton game. I 451 00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:07.839 watched some of it. I was able to watch parts of it. Yes, 452 00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.480 I didn't watch the entire from start to finish, but I was able 453 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:14.920 to watch some parts of it. I watched the part where the stretch. 454 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.480 I watched they got Arizona got up. They look like they're going to go 455 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.359 win, going away, and then and then I kind of thought we're And 456 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.039 then I saw the part where Dayton came back. And I think that's been 457 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.160 one of the issues with Arizona. I says, their ability to to stay 458 00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:33.480 consistent. I thought they let their foot off the gas. They've done that 459 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:36.160 sometimes this year where they've gotten the lead let their foot off the gas, 460 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:38.920 maybe have gotten complacent and then the next thing you know, it becomes a 461 00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.599 basketball game. But credit Arizona, they're able to pull away late. Credit 462 00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:47.799 to Tommy Lloyd. This is his third year as a head coach, this 463 00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:55.400 is his second Sweet sixteen, and you know he's he's done some remarkable things 464 00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.799 in his first three years. And they've got a great shot of going to 465 00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:04.839 the Final four this year. Great great best best chance they've had in his 466 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.039 three in Tommy's three years, or maybe the best chance in Arizona's time in 467 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.640 the last five or six years to be able to get to the final four 468 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:15.759 based on their on their path to get there. We're talking to Josh Passner, 469 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:21.640 former Arizona player coach as well as a coach at Memphis and Georgia Tech 470 00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:27.359 now with ESPN. Hopefully Greg can get me the duke. My resume and 471 00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:30.799 you're supposed to get me that job, but it's only a million a year. 472 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:35.720 I'll take it. Let's go, let's go. I'm ready to go. 473 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.640 I'm ready to get that coaching. Let's go. Greg the future Utah 474 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.640 State coach. So you mentioned that you think Houston's gonna win it, but 475 00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:45.359 Duke has looked pretty impressive. Talk to us a little bit about what you 476 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:50.000 think of that matchup Houston. Look, I've been down on Duke, you 477 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.880 know, and I've said that. I mean, they lose to they lose 478 00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:57.759 their couple. You know, they lost North Carolina in the acc't in the 479 00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:02.799 ACC regular season final game with the a SEC Championship on the line, regular 480 00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:07.720 season championship in Cameron Indoor, they lost the game. I hadn't think they've 481 00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.200 been playing well. Then the next the next time they played was a was 482 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:14.839 in the a SEC tournament and they lost. Didn't look good. So I'm 483 00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:16.839 not as high on Duke. I think though. When the matchups came out, 484 00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:22.880 I thought they got a great draw to get to the Sweet sixteen Vermont 485 00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:29.160 and either Wisconsin or James Madison, and I just thought it was it was 486 00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:34.279 a great draw for them because of the Sweet sixteen. And you know, 487 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:39.559 look, James Madison just they got they beat Wisconsin, but they had they 488 00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.440 weren't going to be able to hang around if Duke plays for their potential, 489 00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:47.599 Duke's really good. They're like Arizona's in terms of talent, even more so 490 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:52.160 than Arizona is in terms of pros, they got a there's nobody on the 491 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.519 tee, on the on the the remaining sixteen teams that had as many pro 492 00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:00.440 prospects as Duke does. So if they played their ability, the they are 493 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:06.400 talented enough to to win a national championship. I mean they've got they've got 494 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:10.320 three possible first round draft picks on their team. So I said that they 495 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:14.920 say they haven't played up to their potential, they haven't played to their to 496 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:19.199 their ability, and you know, they still got some work to do, 497 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.679 but they've got a's gonna be a heck of a game. Or Simmy Uston, 498 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.760 I just think the way Houston is, you know, they they just 499 00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:30.280 they just suffocate teams defensively, and that's what makes it tough. And I 500 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.960 think so I got Uston winning at all. I'm a big Kelvin Sampsons fan. 501 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.159 I think he's the national coach of the Year, and you know, 502 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.559 they're really good. I think it'll be a tough one for Duke to beat 503 00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:43.320 Houston, all right, and then what just one more We just got a 504 00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:46.079 few seconds. But he said, you like Iowa State beating Yukon and I 505 00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:50.920 was state king the national championship game. I do like Iowa State. I'm 506 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.440 a big fan of Iowa State. I think they're very similar to Houston. 507 00:34:54.119 --> 00:35:00.599 I love Yukon like I'm Yukon's outstanding. But it's as Greg knows, it's 508 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:06.039 so hard to repeat as national champions. We've experienced that, right, And 509 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:08.800 I just don't. I just think i Was State's gonna have got a real 510 00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:13.679 shot. I'm beating Yukon in the Elita. All right, man, Well, 511 00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:15.800 I've got all my betting advice that I need for this weekend. Josh, 512 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:19.199 thank you. I appreciate all of that, don't. I don't want 513 00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:22.599 to be responsible for that. That's why when you're depending on eighteen to twenty 514 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:24.199 four year olds to make a shot or two, I don't recommend betting, 515 00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:29.639 but but don't put me on that. But I'll give you my expertise analysis 516 00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:35.920 on that. Did you just get off the phone with each your own Yeah? 517 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.519 Exactly, exactly, exactly, Well, Josh, I appreciate you doing 518 00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:43.239 this with us. Very fun and good luck on that Utah State job. 519 00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:47.719 Will come on, Greg, Ice you have over there and logan. I'm 520 00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:52.519 ready to go. Greg. I'm already texted. I already texted my money 521 00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.320 there and I'll uh, well, we'll send them the uh we'll send them 522 00:35:55.360 --> 00:36:01.960 the audio four percent of the commission. Don't worry, all right, Josh, 523 00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:05.599 Hey, thanks again, appreciate it. We'll keep it out for you 524 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:08.800 on ESPN and good luck with that. Thanks guys, appreciate having me on. 525 00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:15.039 Thank you. That's one of the funniest things that's ever happened on this 526 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:16.920 show. I mean, that's right up there with with when the Dia Barnes 527 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:22.199 announced on our show that she was pregnant with her second kid. And I 528 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:23.559 mean that, you know, Okay, all right, Greg gets on. 529 00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:28.360 You got to see what you know. See, here's the thing. The 530 00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:32.320 whole thing was divine intervention. Right. I brought you in. I invited 531 00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:36.159 you to come on the show. You said yes, came off the golf 532 00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:39.360 course to say yes. Get Josh Pastner on the show. And now this 533 00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:42.639 this is gonna happen. It's gonna be. It's meant to be. He 534 00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:46.119 sounded serious. He sounds very serious. It is a good job. Yeah, 535 00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:50.039 it can be, of course. You know, Jion Sprinkle got a 536 00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:54.920 you got the Washington job out of it, of course, And yeah, 537 00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:59.000 I mean he's got some familiarity over here, so yeah, be a good 538 00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.119 place, good landings for him. Yeah, all right, all right, 539 00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.480 we're gonna take a break and we're gonna see if Josh sends the resume over 540 00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:08.400 so we can get that thing going. So we'll be right back and we'll 541 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:13.239 take your cause five to two zero forward. No, we're gonna have Steve 542 00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:16.480 Rivera gon. We're gonna get Steve on from the road in California. So 543 00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.800 stick around for Steve. If you're an Arizona man's basketball fan, you know 544 00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.320 it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look back at the 545 00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:27.440 Ludolsen era In my new book, Lessons from Loot, It was a labor 546 00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.960 of love through the eyes of twenty five former players, coaches and friends to 547 00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:34.559 give insight to the coach and the man who led them, competed against them, 548 00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.800 and inspired them twenty five chapters for his twenty five years as Arizona's beloved 549 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:42.760 coach. Lessons from Lut is an insight to how he built the program into 550 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:47.320 a national powerhouse. What one email me at Steve dot Rivera ninety five at 551 00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:52.199 gmail dot com. Hi, this is formal. 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Come 577 00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.599 be a part of a winning team the A Team Apply online today at a 578 00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:55.039 Teamsecurity dot Net streaming live I mean iHeartRadio app. This is I on the 579 00:39:55.119 --> 00:40:01.760 Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacobzalez. Not Fox. It's fourteen fifteen. Welcome 580 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:05.639 back on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Jay Gonzalez. 581 00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:09.360 My uh, my usual host is not here, although he is on the 582 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:12.480 phone. We're gonna talk to him in a secondment. I've got Greg Hansen 583 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:16.119 from Theirs on the Daily Star, old buddy of mine and longtime Tucson Calmness 584 00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:20.280 joining us as a guest host. And Lisa is running the board. And 585 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:24.400 as we said, Steve Rivera on the road to LA about to hit rush 586 00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:30.320 hour traffic over there hanging out with with our friend Brian Peterson in the car. 587 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:34.000 But Steve, thanks for joining us, man, We appreciate it. 588 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.480 You're here. Good afternoon, guys. I've been listening to you, guys. 589 00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:43.800 The only one that makes sense has been a lease perfect Why I'm here? 590 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:51.199 Why would today be any different? Steve here? Okay, I'll gonna 591 00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:55.440 say why why would today be any difference from any other day? That's true? 592 00:40:55.119 --> 00:41:00.360 So Jay, Jo Jay, please, I beg of you. Do 593 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:05.639 not touch Houston. You promised me yesterday you would not touch just because joshin 594 00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:10.000 Houston doesn't make it. Don't touch him. I don't know what to tell 595 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:14.039 you, Steve, because you know, Josh gave out a lot of information 596 00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:19.159 there and and it was all very useful information. And Gregg, you've been 597 00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.840 around Jay long enough. There's one door in that room. He hasn't picked 598 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.519 anything right. He might have picked the right door to get out. I 599 00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:31.000 wonder if you would sing Willie Nelson's song on the road again. Yeah, 600 00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:36.880 you know what that? By the way, Greg, it's not intro. 601 00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:44.519 He's he's wild. He's now he's relishing all of this. He loves all 602 00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:51.880 of this. I already I already told Greg. I I already told him 603 00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.199 that if if if Otani would have been and it was in Yankee pinstripes, 604 00:41:54.199 --> 00:42:02.559 I'd want him banned like yesterday. Greg knows that because the Jew So, 605 00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:07.599 uh, boy, what are you thinking today? You heard Josh? What 606 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.440 do you think of his sort of his analysis and who he's got going places? 607 00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.519 Well, it's funny because I listened to to Greg asked the question about 608 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:19.280 Utah State, whether he was in jest or not, and then it went 609 00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:23.239 out and then the phone went out. But he'd be a nice little fit 610 00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:27.920 for that he needs. But you know what you say the truth, guys, 611 00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.199 wouldn't you guys agree that he'd better just stay out of coaching for a 612 00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:37.639 little while longer enjoy enjoy this part of it because coaching sucks. But he's 613 00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:39.960 a twenty four to seven guy. I don't know. Yeah, he must 614 00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:44.280 be going crazy. He's a perfect personality to be a coach. Tef. 615 00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:45.920 He loves, he loves that. I was telling the story about that, 616 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:47.960 you know, the time he came and talked to our group and he had 617 00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:52.920 three cell phones when a lot of people didn't even have one cell phone. 618 00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.719 He I think he loves I think he'd much rather coach than do this. 619 00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:59.159 He got pretty excited. I don't know if you heard him. I don't 620 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:00.239 know if he thought we were off the air. I think he did. 621 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:02.639 When I told me we were on the air, it was like it didn't 622 00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:06.840 matter. He you know, he's kept going. He wants he'd love to 623 00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:10.360 be the UTAs state basketball coach. Well, well there's so many openings now 624 00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:15.000 that he could have a chat for something, right USC. Yeah, us, 625 00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:20.400 he just opened up, so he left the s m U. Yes, 626 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:25.239 confirmed, Yeah, it's it's it's all over the it's all over the 627 00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:29.039 breaking news. Yeah. Well it's all right. We'll talk about it some 628 00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:30.400 more. But yeah, there's all kinds of jobs open, so you know 629 00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:34.920 this he's been out a year, right, this is the time for him 630 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.559 to come back. Yeah, He's got more energy than Energizer money, right, 631 00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:42.840 and who wouldn't want that kind of energy in their program? Seriously, 632 00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:46.559 that's what he has to find the right program. He has to find the 633 00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:51.719 perfect fit. And maybe you touched it is that perfect. But I know 634 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:53.840 you know what he would be good at. And I'm not saying this. 635 00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:58.639 I'm not a New Mexico guy. If Patino does go to Louisville, maybe 636 00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:02.000 there, Yeah, I could see him doing that one too. I think 637 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.880 this part of the country is great for him because he's got some chopping. 638 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.320 I know he's been you know, at Memphis and in Georgia Tech, but 639 00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:13.800 he built his he started building his career here and I think he would like 640 00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.039 him back here. Let me say this, and I think Greg may Or 641 00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:20.679 may not agree with me, but but we all love Josh. Everybody who 642 00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:23.440 doesn't love Josh one of Arizonas or tu Son's favorite sons. But Josh needs 643 00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:29.199 is to get somebody like Roz that's his right hand man and to to help 644 00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.480 him. Yeah, and he knows everybody, so he could probably hand pick 645 00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:37.199 a guy. But maybe he's blind to that. Who knows. Well, 646 00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:39.719 that's that's it right there. Someone needs to tell him. You need a 647 00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:44.719 you need one or two guys to help you guide you, uh to where 648 00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.000 you need to get to. Yeah, like like Steve Robinson is for Tommy, 649 00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:51.039 right, I mean I think, I mean think about that. What 650 00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:54.079 what you know? Having a guy like that, it says a lot of 651 00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:59.199 things. One it says I'm comfortable with who I am as a as a 652 00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:01.199 coach, and I'll bring a guy in like that. And two, I 653 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:05.400 want that knowledge. I need that knowledge, and I'm going to bring in 654 00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:07.880 a guy who and I'm not going to be threatened by that. You could 655 00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:15.039 get he knows Lorenzo. You know what that's that's a great, great name, 656 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:20.400 A great name. Uh great great name. Yeah for for Josh. 657 00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.639 Look, we're this is kind of funny. We're getting Josh a job. 658 00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:27.519 I mean, this is great. I told Greg that that that was one 659 00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:30.880 of the one of the coolest things that happened on our show since uh, 660 00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:32.719 since Ada told hers she was pregnant. That that, I mean, it's 661 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:37.280 right up there with that. That was funny as heck. That says a 662 00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.480 lot. That was like three years ago. That was one of the first 663 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:44.840 things that happened to us. All right, Steve, so your your thoughts 664 00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:49.039 on Have you had any more thoughts on on this matchups the matchups coming up? 665 00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:51.719 I mean, you got a great game with the North Carolina Alabama game. 666 00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:53.920 I think that's a great game. Yeah, it should be a great 667 00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:58.440 game. I wouldn't be surprised if Obama beats some I'm not sure they will, 668 00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:00.039 but uh, they're fun to watch. Obviously, it's going to be 669 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:06.719 Both games are going to be a highly scored game. Game. Arizona, 670 00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:09.480 I think should be able to handle handle pumps in. I don't know much 671 00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:14.480 about them except that they've done very well in the front court, which could 672 00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:17.119 be, you know, bode well for them, because if Arizona gets in 673 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:21.800 talut trouble with Preevous and with Bollow, who knows what will happen. Uh, 674 00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:23.920 But you know, maybe the guys that we think that the most valuable 675 00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:29.440 guy is Pele will show up and do really well. I agree, when 676 00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.800 Pele plays well, Arizona plays well. And when they've had those clunkers he's 677 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.559 had, he's had clunkers and we've right, I mean, that's something we 678 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:42.000 picked up on kind of probably maybe halfway through the non conference season, looking 679 00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.800 at having my cowa stuff, and he had Pally like up way up on 680 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:51.480 his list of the most valuable uh uh uh impactful players, And we thought, 681 00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:53.679 really, and then we started thinking about it. And as you said, 682 00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:58.639 when he plays well, they're really good. When because he's doing so 683 00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:02.719 many different things, you know, I really trust Jay Billis's evaluations. And 684 00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:09.239 twice I've heard him say is an NBA player really off card? That's interesting. 685 00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:14.280 He's repeated that several times. And I kind of think Billis knows what 686 00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:16.280 he's talking about. I mean, yeah, I'd like to think he knows 687 00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:20.519 what he's talking about it sometimes I think he doesn't, but I know he 688 00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:23.719 knows more than I did. Right, he got his first Can't Even game 689 00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:30.000 and he said he's well many of the base didn't think he's smart when he 690 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:36.639 had Sean against the wall. There was that. But but you know, 691 00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:38.760 I mean, but he watches a lot of basketball and and he's not going 692 00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:43.880 to say that if he doesn't truly believe it. And so I mean I 693 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.199 I had never heard him say that, but certainly if he is saying that, 694 00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:50.559 and see, I don't think Peally like that. I think Pelly is 695 00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:53.800 a good overseas guy. But he's got a nice three point shot, right, 696 00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:59.760 but he's got to be standing. He's aggressive defensively. What I The 697 00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:01.519 one one thing I don't like about him is the stupid turnovers. And he's 698 00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:07.280 got a couple of those every game and sometimes more. And it's the times 699 00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:10.280 that he has more that they that they struggle when he does that. The 700 00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:14.360 one thing I wanted to ask Josh about we didn't have time for was he's 701 00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:17.480 coached against Caleb Love. What what does he think about Kayleb? Yeah? 702 00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:22.599 Is he a team maker or a team breaker? Yeah? Well, yeah, 703 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:29.079 he's been a question the US, the Arizona people, you get about 704 00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.719 sixty percent saying he's a maker and the other one saying he's a breaker. 705 00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:35.760 Yeah, no, you would, You absolutely would, I said so, 706 00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:38.199 and some who say, yeah, he's a little of both. And but 707 00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:42.840 when he's a maker, they're pretty damn good, right. I mean again, 708 00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.960 he's that he he and when he and Kylin are playing great, they're 709 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:50.760 they're like almost unbeatable. Right. I don't care if you've got Zach Edie 710 00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:54.199 or whoever you've got. When their front. When their backcourt including Pelle, 711 00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:59.920 is playing really really good. They're really really good, and and that's what 712 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.480 Arizona fans are waiting for. I don't know if you guys believe in poetic 713 00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:08.480 justice, but it wouldn't it be poetic justice to see it on Arizona on 714 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:13.239 Saturday afternoon. I can hardly wait for that. I really want to see 715 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:19.199 that. I really want to see that for sure. So Greg, Greg, 716 00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.480 Greg, I'm not gonna ask you who hadn't final for because we already 717 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:24.320 went through that. What do you? What do you have? I like 718 00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:29.639 Purdue. I want anybody but Yukon. Yeah, so I'll take Iowa State. 719 00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:32.920 But I really like Purdue because EDI's a once in a lifetime player and 720 00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:37.760 he's improved so much. If you can't win a national title with Zachi, 721 00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:43.960 when are you ever going to win it? Yeah? I think I think 722 00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:49.800 my opinion of Purdue has changed dramatically. And again I was on that bandwagon 723 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.880 of they're going to lose early and they I mean, I you know, 724 00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.920 I watched them in there in their game with with the Utah State and I'm 725 00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:00.639 like, as Josh said, hold Kyle, who's going to be these guys, 726 00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:08.559 if there if you could say that about Gonzagas right, about a number 727 00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:13.480 of teams that played this, Yeah, you know, a game we're not 728 00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:15.639 that's not getting talked about a lot because everybody's got an iron Purdue and in 729 00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:21.000 the in the Midwest. Is that Tennessee Creighton game? I mean a two 730 00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:22.880 you know, a two three. I think a lot of people had Tennessee, 731 00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:27.079 you know getting to the final four out of that bracket. Uh, 732 00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:30.760 you know, because you thought they'll beat Purdue if they have to play Purdue. 733 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:34.079 Now I'm not so sure that that would happen. But that's a that's 734 00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.639 another great game. The next days are gonna be a lot of fun to 735 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:43.719 watch Creighton to beat Oregon on that night because Oregon was on. They had 736 00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.199 two guys playing the best games of their lives and they still beat them. 737 00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:52.679 Right, that's only could beat almost anybody. Yeah. Absolutely, Now it's 738 00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:54.559 a again, it's a it's a fun bracket. And again, nobody's talking 739 00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:59.400 about Illinois, be Deniowa state. You know, you just kind of discount 740 00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.079 Illinois because iway stated has been so damn good over the last two weeks. 741 00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:07.239 Well, I really hope Illinois loses their coach is like mc cronin, just 742 00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:15.840 a scathing wild man. I think I'm losing you, guys. I think 743 00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:17.440 you just dropped him. All right, you're out of here, Steve. 744 00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:22.079 If you listen to us on the radio. Uh, we appreciate the time 745 00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.480 that you gave us, and you're gonna hear rush hour anyway, So we'll 746 00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:29.400 we'll finish it up. But glad you should have seen us last week when 747 00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:34.559 he was on the road. City you've driven, I'm sure you've driven that, 748 00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:38.519 and he was yet like one word in and we're like, Steve, 749 00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:42.679 we're hanging you up. And they would get a text message and all that 750 00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.960 stuff. So yeah, no, but again, I really love this. 751 00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:47.679 I really love the bracket and where we are right now, so that a 752 00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:51.920 lot of a lot of great games. I'm parked in front of the TV. 753 00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:54.320 Then you know, Thursday and Friday for sure, for sure. Great, 754 00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:57.519 all right, we're at the top of the hour. We're going to 755 00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.440 take our break, we're going to come back, and Lisa's got has got 756 00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:02.679 some breaking news. We've given you a little bit of a hint of it, 757 00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:07.679 and we'll we'll go through some of that stuff and then at four fifteen, 758 00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:10.559 Jim Rosboro is going to join us. We finally reached him and he's 759 00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:15.159 gonna We're gonna get him in here and talk about mainly about the cast, 760 00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.679 but he's also had a great exciting season with the Pima women's basketball. So 761 00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:21.880 we'll get Roz in here at about four fifteen, so we'll stick around