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Enter it now, Bill cunning in
the Great America of Glorious Wednesday afternoon has

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come. We're better temperatures while you
hadn't told by Steve Rowley the Power of

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nine. And coming up later is
Austin Wipuma, a good friend of Brian

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Hamry, and we're going to break
down the Gene Carroll Donald Trump fiasco.

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What's going on? I know that
last night of the night before you had

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the specter on MSNBC of Jean Carroll
with Rachel Maddow talking about how they're going

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to spend Donald Trump's eighty three million
dollars with fancy trips, drinking fancy wine,

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eating fancy food, and going on
a shopping spree and maybe buying condos

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all over New York City. So
you see how serious the left takes that

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issue. But until then, of
course, we've had in Cincinnati a couple

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of terrible incidents in which mobs of
young teenagers are beating the crap out of

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people. And this morning, Dan
Carroll and Judge Hartman talked about how was

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this done well. Judge Harry Bloom
is the administrative chief judge in Hamlet County

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Juvenile Court, and she's the one
a couple of years ago that gave a

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seventeen year old rapist a book report
to do for annally raping a fourteen year

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old boy, and instead of binding
him over to felony court, which should

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have happened, she didn't do that. She issued a book report and tell

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him to write about it and talk
about how bad rape is. And I

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can only imagine what that seventeen year
old is doing now, but until then,

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Brian Hambrick the Power five, Welcome
again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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And Brian, how are you?
Oh good? Thanks again mister Cunningham.

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Couruse you've been here forever along with
Shari Pulolo and John London. Some of

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the legends and news. You've covered
it all. You know where the bodies

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are buried all over Hambleton County.
It's kind of like the and they show

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Yellowstone. You take him to the
train station down the hill they go.

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Brian hambric knows every body down there
in Wyoming instead of Montana, so kind

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of give it, give us your
perspective. And I know Shari Polo has

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done some investigation on this too,
about the impact. And you said to

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me, something off the air is
that. Now, when you have a

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story downtown, which you often do, you go through gymnastics to make sure

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you're parking the right location, get
your head on a swivel, see what's

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going on, and give me your
reaction to what's going on in the mean

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streets of Cincinnati right now. Well, man, I think it's maybe a

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little different than what we've seen.
I mean when they talk about crime,

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and we had the mayor on last
night that you know, crime's actually actually

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down, but it's sort of what
kind of crime are we talking about here?

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Because what we have here or what
appear to be random attacks that one

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appears to be a man walking along
sixth Street and all of a sudden,

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here comes this whole group of about
eight people and a full on attack on

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this guy. He's got no chance, eight people wailing on him, he

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goes down, he's call him for
help, and they just continue to kick

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him and beat him. And then
a couple days later, and we're not

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sure exactly what the relationship of time. They haven't released a lot of information

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on when these happened, what the
proximity, time and space and all that

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was, but just released and yesterday
it was more video of another person that

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was being beat This looked like a
teenager who was maybe near the bus transit

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system over there. And again,
a whole group of people. Once they

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get him on the ground, they're
beating and can he fight him back.

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He's trying to do his best,
but you can see there's there's too many

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of them. It's like Hyena's attacking
a lion. There's only so much the

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lion can do, even though he
may be more powerful than he given Hyena.

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When there's ten or twelve of them, it's a lost cause. They

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get this kid on the ground and
he appears to be unconscious by the time

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they're done kicking him in the head
and in the ribs and stomping on his

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face. It's unbelievable to watch.
And again the difference is as difficult as

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that only is to watch. What
makes it even more I think concerning for

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people here in town, for businesses
and especially in the suburbs, is that

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this appears to be a random attack. This isn't one drug dealer shooting another,

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or somebody's got a beef with this
group of guys and that group of

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guys and they're going to get each
other. There's a lot of that going

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along, and you can get caught
up in that. That's a concern,

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but this seems to be at least
it appears to be something different. And

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this is the kind of crime that
really gets people's attention and out in the

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suburbs, people are very concerned about
coming downtown. I can't tell you how

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many people I have to talk to
you is that it is not doing this.

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This becomes a point where it's not
worth it. And you know,

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Brian Hemric, the city of Cincinnati, especially downtown Government Square, Fountain Square,

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that is the heart that beats the
Tri State. We have about two

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point two million citizens who live in
the Tri State, which is like about

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six counties in Kentucky about twelve,
in Ohio about three, and Innana two

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point two million. And of the
two point two million, about three hundred

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thousand live in the city of Cincinnati. So one point nine of two point

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two do not live do not live
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you live in Sharonville or Western Hills. I talked to Sheriff Richard K.

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Jones in Butler County. I'm gonna
get him on Thursday and Friday. He

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says, my guys, don't go
downtown. I don't go downtown. I

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don't go to OTR. You talk
to Warren County, there's no question Warren

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County, they're not coming. You
live in northern Kentucky. Tony Bender lives

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there, Rob Sanders lives there.
They all tell me the same thing.

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You tell me that I have so
many choices. Whatever's in downtown Cincinnati other

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than the Reds, the Bengals and
FC. Other than those three, I

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can get everything that I want without
risking my personal safety in my life.

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And I can't tell you how many
parents have told their teenage sons and daughters

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or young folks, don't go downtown, don't go to Clifton, don't go

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to UC because there's shootings taking place
all over the banks. There's all kind

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of vicious break ins in Clifton.
Cars are being broken into all over the

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place, plus personal assaults. And
Brian Hemmert when you say crime is down

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and statistically it is, the problem
is city police don't pull over anybody anymore,

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and that is a pretext to arrest
somebody for drugs in the car,

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guns in the car, warrants out
for their arrest, and cops are told

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don't chase any knuckleheads down alleys anymore. After Steven Road shot Timothy Thomas,

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the message went out, Look,
we'll catch them later. Don't be proactive.

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So when proactive police stop, they
don't do that anymore. Of course,

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crime is down because crimes aren't being
arrested and prosecuted. That's the that's

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the answer. Well, what happens, I think for people who live out

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out in the outlying areas is you
kind of have a meter, you know.

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On that meter it's your Hansle meter, you know, and so you

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know, first of all, if
you're outside, you got to drive downtown.

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Okay, all right, Well I
was just working downtown, but now

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I've got to drive downtown. So
I'm driving downtown on my spare time.

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So you're paying that, you're paying
for the extra. Now you've got to

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find a place of park, and
that can be a hassle, depend on

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where you are. So there you
go, you got your parking. Now

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you've got to worry on top of
that. We've had all these car break

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ins, We've had people, you
know, so now you got to worry

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about is your car going to get
broken into? Is it going to get

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stolen? If you park it in
a certain place downtown or anywhere. I

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mean, because it could be anywhere. And so now you're worrying about that.

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And now on top of that,
it's basically, do I want to

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buy this lottery ticket for violence?
And that's what people are concerned about.

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Am I buying a lottery ticket for
violence? And maybe my time doesn't come

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up, Maybe you get downtown.
Nothing happened. It only happens to a

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very few people. But so does
the lottery. And at some point,

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somebody's going to get attacked. Somebody's
going to get and I don't want it

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to be me. You know,
I think this is what people are saying.

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And you know I've heard this.
I have heard this from people in

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Northern Kentuck. I'm the last one. I come downtown. I still come

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downtown. I may come downtown this
weekend. So you know, I'm the

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last guy on the bandwagon. But
I can tell you there are many many

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people that I know out in Northern
Kentucky who are saying, will we go

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downtown? The answer is not no, it's hell no, we're not going.

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And so this is the this is
the concern that city council. This

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is what they have to be concerned
about, because the folks out there are

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helping this city to survive. They're
helping the city to thrive, and they're

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a big part of it. A
lot of people live downtown. They say,

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hey, look, we're used to
the you know, whatever kind of

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concerns there are, we live with
them every day, so kind of get

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over it. But there are people
will say, I don't have to Why

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will I. I'm going to just
stay out here, and so there's no

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need to to. You know,
have folks from It's it's Mason, it's

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Westchester, it's all all these places
outline who have to come in, and

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you want them to come in,
They're now given one more reason to say,

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do I really want to do that? Yeah? And that's not a

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position we want to be in as
a city. And Brian Hemry, there's

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a murder trail happening as we speak. And my good friend James Bogan is

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one of the criminal defense attorneys in
which a fourteen year old boy. When

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I was fourteen, I was a
senior at s I'm sorry, I was

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an eighth grader at Saint Savior Grade
School in Deer Park, and I was

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concerned about little Penny Cunningham and Penny
Ashbrock. I was concerned about about Sandy

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Gittinger. I was concerned about playing
football, basketball and baseball. I wasn't

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concerned about shooting someone. Can you
tell the American people basically what's happening in

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that trial before Judge Louver's as I
speak, Well, that trial, this

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is a it's such a convoluted You
have five guys, two are all involved

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in a series of four murders that
took place in nineteen days last February.

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And a lot of people didn't even
hear about this because it took police a

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while to put it together. And
that's the other thing. Look, the

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police are doing a good job of
catching people sometimes you know, in this

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case, they ran down all of
these I mean, this was it was

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really convoluted, and it's sort of
like you know, the Beatles would put

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out an album and sometimes they have
Billy Preston involved and sometimes George wouldn't be

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there. Sometimes Bringo didn't show up
and they but they put the album out.

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Well, this is sort of way
these guys did their killing. There

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were five of them, and sometimes
there were three of them there sometimes there

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were two of them there. Sometimes
they brought in another guy. But the

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guy that's on trial now is on
trial for two of the killings, and

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he was involved in two different killings, a couple of them were they were

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basically he put himself out as a
contract killer. That's what he wanted to

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be. So a guy's going to
contract him to kill somebody. Then he

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sub lets his contract killing to some
content. So he takes three guys and

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they go and they try and kill
the first guy, according to prosecutors,

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and they shoot up everybody because these
guys can't hit anything. They killed every

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well, they shot everybody, and
they killed the wrong guy. The guy

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they were supposed to kill. He
lived. Well, now he's really mad

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and some of his buddies are.
And so there's a retaliation against this guy

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named Godfrey, who's a guy on
trial. He gets shot. Well,

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now he's super mad because he's been
shot. He didn't get the guy killed

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that was supposed to get killed.
It thought were prosecutors laid this out in

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their opening statements and they could go
to the closing arguments today. But and

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James is going to do that.
James Bothan is going to do those closings

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today, So you know, it's
a long and sort of tail and this

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and in the middle of all that
is a fourteen year old who was apparently

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trying to put himself out there as
a contract killer. He's one of those

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five guys that was involved in this
killing over nineteen days, fourteen and fourteen

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years old. It's unbelievable. Well, and been just over in Covington.

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We had a fourteen year old shot
by a seventeen year old. We got

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the eleven year old who was shot
down there in the West End. I

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don't think they ever did figure out
who the killer was in that case yet.

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I mean, we've had a lot
of these young kids, and fourteen

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seems to be the new you know, seventeen coming of age, coming out

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and younger and younger. Yeah,
coming of age and I'm gonna be a

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tough guy on campus. Fourteen and
seventeen year olds are killing in Covington.

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The fourteen year old is dead.
The seventeen year old I understand is there

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may have been a shootout like gun
smoke. Everyone's got guns, and what's

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gonna happen in one of these one
of these mass marauding gang attacks in downtown

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Cincinnati. Somebody's gonna pull out a
gun and it might be the victim,

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but then you're gonna have six or
seven around him, also with guns and

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with steel Toad's shoes, and then
all hell's gonna break loose. Now what's

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gonna go on is gonna be a
shootout on Fountain Square or in governments where

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with these bus passes. I think
it was Channel five pointed out that I

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think Ted Pirival wants to change the
bus system, and that's somehow all if

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you're at CPS, you have a
golden ticket to take a metro anywhere,

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anytime, any place, but the
all headquarter down in Government Square. So

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the problem is Government Square and the
bus ticket is not the behavior of the

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person. Explain that system right,
well, you know, I mean that's

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we've we've talked about this in the
past, and I know there's the advocates

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like Mitch Morris and Pastor Mingo,
Pastor Kate. You know, those are

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the guys that are out there every
time, you know, there's shooting and

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somebody gets killed, and these guys
are saying, you know what a lot

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of us said. Look at Scottie
Johnson as well as talked about this a

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lot this this begins at home.
This is where folks are going to have

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to There has to be a change
in the way and then the attitude very

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young because as we're seeing what happens, these kids are left to their own

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devices. The folks that want to
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raise them into crime. And and
they'll take them when they're fourteen, because

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you know, these these kids are
singing and there and there, you know

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a lot of things in their culture, their songs, their music. Listen

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to this rap music. It's all
about beating women and shooting cops and and

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uh and and get money and and
and drugs and all this. That's what

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it's about, the whole central theme. And it glorifies this, this lifestyle

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of of being a killer and of
being you know, a tough guy and

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all this. But you know the
reality of that life is not what is

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cracked up to be and song and
dance, you know, I mean,

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the reality is people are getting killed, people are getting maimed. Here you

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get paralyzed for life and uh and
go to jail and all this, you

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know, but and it's but it's
glorified to the point that these young kids

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they don't understand that this is not
what is cracked up to be. I

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mean, sounds good when you're listening
to a song and you're digging to be

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to that tune, but it is
the reality of living that and and it's

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it's it's you know, it's a
lot like nom people thought, you know,

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going to war with you, We're
going to the glory of war,

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you know. And then eventually people
got the idea war is not what you

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you know, you don't want to
be caught up in there. There's no

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glory in it. It's it's it's
it's death, it's destruction, it's it's

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disease, it's it's it's decisions people
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every awful thing you can think of. And and and I think people finally

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started getting that message during Vietnam that
you know, this is not a thing

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to be glorified. And I don't
think we're I don't think you see people

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quite as you know, bought into
the romanticism of war. But the kids

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here haven't got that message yet.
It's just as violent. It's it's basically

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like they're getting drafted into a war
and they see the romantic side of it

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all, the glory of it all, and how tough they might be,

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and how you know, I might
get a big caller, might head of

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a water cash or whatever. Yeah, that's it. And when you have

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a traditional system very different. You
know, right now in Hamlety County,

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we're teetering. We could have become
Detroit in the next one to five years.

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When you have judges like Judge Carrie
Bloom in juvenile court who does not

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believe that young folks should be held
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If you rape somebody, if you
shoot somebody and kick somebody in the head

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repeatedly and get out on bond immediately. These two kids got a one got

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a ten thousand dollars bond. Then
what she did was dismiss the assault.

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She dismissed the cases, the two
kids that got out on bond. I

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was told by a prosecutor that the
cases have now been dismissed and that they

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don't exist anymore. Because of she
wants counseling, she wants to know restorative

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justice, and so the cops.
The cops are done. The cops have

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told me, why do I arrest
these jack rabbits running around when when we

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have a juvenile court system completely broken, and uh, that's what's happening.

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Well, Brian, we got to
run. We got more comments. I

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wanted, well, what are you
going to cover this afternoon? If anything?

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Well, there's that other all kinds
of things going on here, I

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think with somebody going down to city
Hall where they're talking about this again,

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I'm going down to I'm on my
way down to uh uh Williamstown right now

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where they had a firefighter. It
was involved in a fire down there and

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it was a flash over. Two
firefighters. They had to drag him out

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of the building. We're on fire. The one guy had third degree burns.

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So I'm going down there to check
it out, to kind of cover

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that story. Well, when you
go there, you enough to worry about

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your car getting break. You know, it is rather popular in Detroit.

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You're breaking the news cars and steal
stuff. So I think down there you're

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eating It's Grand County, you're in
good shape, but Hamilton County not so

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good. All right, Brian,
Yeah, go ahead, you did well.

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You reminded me, you know what, the police bringing these guys back

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in. You know, I used
to do stand up comedy. I did

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that. I tell people I got
in the news because of two of the

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similar But but it reminds me of
this joke that I had where it's Batman

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and Robin and they're going uh and
Batman answers the phone he's I guess,

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Commissioner, what the Riddler again?
But we just call him last week.

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Come on, Commissioner, we're doing
our job. You know, it's kind

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of the same thing that same guys
are committing the same crimes all the time.

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You know, where's the riddler.
Let's catch the riddler. Get the

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riddler now. Yeah, Brian,
thank you again for coming on the Bill

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Cunningham Show. Thanks again, mister
Cunningham. Brian Hemrick standup comedian. That's

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the best. He's the best there
is. Let's continue with more. My

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