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It's the downbeat. I'm ninety seven
to one. The Freak Cowboys didens coordinator

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Dan Quinn's meeting and interviewing with the
Tennessee Titans and the Carolina Panthers today.

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We have news on when Mike McCarthy
will be meeting and also need to discuss

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why the Cowboys might have blown their
best chance. We'll discuss that now in

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Sports at seven. Now, Sports
at seven. Yeah, a lot of

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like interviews happening. It's kind of
kind of can't sit in your feelings too

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long. Here see the Rams DC
Raheem Morris is interviewing with the Panthers as

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well, and the Commanders tomorrow and
the Seahawks on Friday against six or seven

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head coaching jobs available. So you
can Carball doing Atlanta today too. If

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Harball's doing Atlanta, that makes sense. They did Belichick first, which is

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their most likely their number one target. So I'm gonna play this for you

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before. This is from Okay,
this is from about them Cowboys. This

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is one of my nine side hustles. It's a podcast to do in the

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athletic and my co hoster Kent Garrison, sad Yusef and then John Mishouda and

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John Mishoda. If you hear him
reporting something, you just know that it's

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mostly accurate. I'm saying he doesn't
have a perfect record, but man,

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it's pretty good. But if we
hear you reporting something, oh dude,

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trust it, Trust it and listen
closely, because sometimes I may not formally

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report it. I'll just sprinkle it
in brilliant like seasoning, like some like

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some old Bay. You you're like
sports Bay. Have sports Bay with a

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little size of herb and lemon.
No is it herb or herb herb?

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Let's go okay yesterday on about them
cowboys? Doesn't carefully to John show that

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this is real quick. You hear
me first, and then you'll hear John

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all cramp. What do you think
will happen? And what do you want

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to happen? I think that I
think that Jerry's gonna stick with Mike.

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Good news for you, Sirroy.
Thank you Darry for believing in me.

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I like, what do you think
will happen? What do you want will

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happen? And I wanted to play
that yesterday and we didn't do it.

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We'll do right now. Let's do
it right now. What do you think

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will happen? What do you want
to Okay, I'll go first, and

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I wish you hadn't to play that
because I I think he's gonna stick with

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Mike McCarthy. I think we laid
that out yesterday. Yeah, kind of

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like probably how this is gonna end
up. What do I want to happen?

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I want Bill f and Belichick here. And I say it as a

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qualifier. It's because I'm not a
cowboy fan necessarily. I love I love

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chaos. I want them to win. I want them to win the Super

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Bowl, but I want chaos.
I want talking points and angles and madness

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that seems to be inevitable no matter
who's in any position, as long as

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Jerry's around. But I just think
the shock and excitement of that announcement,

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the news interviews will get from Belichick, I just think, and I also

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think he's the best coach in history, and I think that might be your

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quickest path to winning the Super Bowl. And if that's truly the game around

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here, give me Bill Belichick.
But what I think is going to happen

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as of this very moment, I
think Mike McCarthy stays, dang man,

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It's funny because yesterday you talked about
how each day your initial reaction and your

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initial thoughts about what needs to happen, like on Monday, and you talked

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about this yestory, how they're probably
going to vary as the days go on,

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and how or as the oceans calm
down and you start getting that more

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steady hand vibe about the whole process. I could not agree with you more.

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And I am a Cowboy fan and
I do want them to kind of

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not blow it up, but at
least make a big splash. And like

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you said, Belichick's the greatest coach
of all time. You have an opportunity

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to get him. You're gonna lose
Dan Quinn. You might as well just

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go ahead and clean house. Let
Bill bring in his guys. Your roster's

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young enough that they are still somewhat
malleable. And I think that bringing in

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Belichick also kind of satiates the thirst
for blood for really pissed off Cowboys fans.

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You can't get past that performance.
I know we get further away from

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it, but that was abysmal.
There was no excuse for the Cowboys collectively,

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from coaching to special teams, to
every aspect of that game was a

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massive wet turd, and you can't
make excuses for that. I'm sorry you

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cannot make the excuse for that.
You have got to do something big to

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send a message to your team,
to send a message to your fans,

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and give yourself a better head coach. No one's gonna argue that Belichick is

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a better head coach than Mike McCarthy. You do that now, But what

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will happen. They're gonna roll him
out again. I agree with you.

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They're going to roll him out again
for his last year and give him one

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more shot. OKAJ think want?
What I think will happen is this run

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it back with Mike, figure out
your defensive coordinator. If dan Quinn leaves,

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or if dan Quinn doesn't get a
job, which is possible, you

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just do it again and you take
like the devil you know as twelve wins.

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Right, And that's kind of okay, not good enough, not what

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you want. What I want for
being terribly That's what I want is coach

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prime action in here. Okay,
I mean in terms of chaos, and

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you want it to get weird.
But if I've been football person as much

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as it is kind of against what
I would be about normally, I don't

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want a defensive head coach hardly.
Ever, the Belichick thing makes too much

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sense, and there's like a lot
of people like, well, what if

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he doesn't he's not relatable to the
players good. That's kind of part of

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the problem is having guys who are
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A bit of the issue there.
How about guys being scared that they're not

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going to get to keep their job
if they don't perform well today? Now

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we're talking, yeah, and that's
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our whole lives. Yeah, is
the fear of you don't get to do

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this anymore if you don't do well. You know what I've heard a lot

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too about this is I mean,
there's a lot of discourse about everything going

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on here, but one thing I
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the way they draft players and all
that. Let me just say you,

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Will McClay is the de facto GM. But you know, I've talked with

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this a few times and how this
works where he sits in the middle coaches

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over here, scouts over here,
front office over here, and he just

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sits inside of that triangle spinning around, getting everyone's input make the best decision.

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It ain't like coaches don't get to
pick players because it just happened.

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Dan Quinn took Mozzie Smith, Mike
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idea that Bill Belichick would be,
like, I gotta be able to pick

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players. Now, if Bill Belichick's
come in and wants full control, that's

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a no go. You know,
if Harball wants full control, that's a

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no no go. You're not getting
that, Like, you're just not.

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We have a system here that kind
of works, even though it didn't work

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this year in the draft. We
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does work, and it's proven that
it works. So you can't come in

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and just get everything you want and
start pushing out people. Okay, like

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that, you can push out some
people, but not Will mcclay's. But

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the idea that coach can't pick his
player is crazy Taco Charlton, which Will

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McClay has gone to bat for Rod
Marinelli's saying that he did that. No,

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you know, like there's there's some
things there that I just think Bill

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would get to pick a few players
like he wouldn't have any say, he

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would have a huge voice absolutely in
that decision making process, and they'd be

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a fool enough to listen to him. Do you think he well, see

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he has drafted poorly Belichick. Yes, yes, for a decent amount of

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time. And it's sort of him
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is New England and that dude gets
whatever he wants in New England. I

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wonder when he interviewed with Atlanta the
other day or in his next interviews,

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if that is a deal or no
deal. I buy the groceries, I

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handle the talent acquisite acquisition. I
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I mean, he's got a lot
of leverage, But does he have

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enough to strut into every NFL city
and be like, hey, yeah,

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if you want to do this,
this is how this is going to work.

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I don't. I don't. I
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I kind of don't think so,
like I kind of think he might.

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He might be Okay, he knows
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power that he just had in New
England automatically, like every franchise is different.

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So then you have to weigh what
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of the Dallas Cowboys, which around
here we feel like means a lot.

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I don't know if Bill Belichick up
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man, Dallas is still the best
gig in town. It's the biggest,

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you know, stage there is.
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don't know if they actually look at
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structure in place here though, is
that we're who knows. Maybe he wants

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a little less responsibility on that personnel
end, maybe because it's the way it

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was for twenty years. That's just
continued to be the way it was,

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and he was the guy picking the
players and going through all that. You

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have these guys with fake titles who
do a little bit and help you.

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But like this is a little different. Now there's a structure in place here.

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Now you come here, man,
you can focus on coaching these dudes,

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and if you have a say,
we will listen to your say and

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you will get to pick play right
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like we want you help it.
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I don't even know if the buck
doesn't stop with you and please fire away

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all any and all ideas and opinions. You're Bill Belichick, but not just

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making every decision. And I think
he'd be okay with that. I thank

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you it too, I actually do. And I think you would like it

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here. I think you would like
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And I also think we just assume
that Jerry's like wants all credit,

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and he probably does. Ego maniacs
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much because he may be like,
God, dang it, I gotta get

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one, like it might get so
desperate. I kept coming back to two

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things. Sean Payton's got to be
going damn it. If I just waited

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one year, if I was shown
a little bit of patience, I would

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waited one year. I would not
have this problem. Okay, because they're

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getting rid of Russ. Most likely
he might not have the perception that he's

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unhinged. H because he got weird
this year. Yeah, I mean he's

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already yeah, like weirder, Yeah, weirder probably, And I mean he's

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taking bong rips too, right,
that was a alleged but yeah, certainly

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looked like it. Yeah, to
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other thing I heard a little bit
is well, you can't do this to

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Dak because Mike McCarthy's been so important
for Dak. As if Dak hasn't been

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a good quarterback in the NFL.
Dak was a good quarterback in the NFL

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before Mike McCarthy walked his ass into
the Star And will you you're mad at

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Dak right now? That's fine.
Dak has a playoff problem. The Cowboys

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have a problem starting fast on offense
in the playoffs. That's a thing.

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And I don't think it's him cowering
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something's up. Okay, that's way
different than Dak's got to have McCarthy because

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he's only been Dak's been fine without
McCarthy in his career. Okay, adding

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weapons helped you here, you know
there's McCarty. I'm not saying McCarthy didn't

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do anything for him. He did. But people acting like that's the only

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way Dak's good get out of town
with that. Would you say that Dak's

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got better personnel around him than Romo
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I think so. CD Lamb what
he offered this year was probably statistically better

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than anything Dez did, and you
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elite. But CD wins more ways
than Dez does. But he also had

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witting to go with that. So
yeah, there's a lot of things.

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Ferguson was really good. I don't
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I mean, you got all those
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was Terrence Williams, So yeah,
Brandy cooks better. Yeah, So yeah,

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I would say yes here because their
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Dax might be one loss worse.
You brought up a name yesterday. I

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think it was all fair. And
here's my dream scenario. You bring Belichick

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in hiss head coach, right,
and he's in charge of defense, just

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all of it. Dan quinn goes
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bring in Greg Roman as I don't
know what title, because you bring in

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two guys. You bring Greg Roman, and I'm really kind of interested in

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a guy you named yesterday talking Bobby. You tell Bobby slowan coach bro oh

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Kingsbury, Cliff Kingsbury, yeap.
And you bring Greg Roman, who was

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the coordinator of the Ravens rushing attack
for a long time and just dominant.

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They had the most creative running strategies
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no matter who they put back there, and it was artwork rushing master.

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And then Cliff Kingsbury to be your
younger. He's only forty four. You

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know, he feels like he's a
retread, but is your passing coordinator?

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Basically a passing coordinator. You're willing
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that's how you get past either of
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don't even want to call someone a
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could just be passing game coordinator and
running game coordinator. Those two guys are

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in charge of the entire offense.
Belichick is in charge of the whole defense.

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And then everyone including Belichick, has
a loud voice on player acquisition.

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But that buck stops with wil McLay. Okay, had you said all this,

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you know who drafted and Greg Roman
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you look at him, he's kind
of roly poly. He's fifty one years

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old, I think, But that
dude has got a big run in the

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football brain. You are covered,
yes, and that was probably the weakness

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of Mike McCarthy even in Green Bay, of his offense. If it was

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not the greatest run designs and things
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championed for a little bit, and
it's not great for the Chargers. You

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know who drafted Cliff Kingsbury, Bill
Belichick? Really two thousand and three,

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the Patriots drafted Cliff Kingsbury. Now
he was a year there. Now,

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Cliff, I don't think coach there. I mean he was basically was a

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player coach anyways, because wouldn't ever
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but he was there. Yeah,
I never want met there's a coach or

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anything, but there you go.
Two thousand and three. The other connection

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I forgot if I mentioned this on
the show yesterday or if I did that

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on my podcast. You know Zeke? Did we talk about Zeke yesterday?

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No, Zeke played for the Patriots
last year because Belichick I believe this to

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be true. Belichick hollered at the
Jones An's he anything left? Because yeah,

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you didn't know that. Like it's
not like there's no connection, Like

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there is something there. Now if
the Falcons just go get it done and

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the Cowboys are here sitting and fumble
farting around over here. Belichick might just

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say, screw it, that's that's
a great job. I'll go take Atlanta

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off itsive weapons. We'll figure out
our quarterback and move on. But this

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is the best job opening by far, unless you want to. I don't

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think the Eagles are gonna fire their
coach. Well, it's not even a

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job opening yet, exactly, You're
not. The Cowboys aren't going to interview

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Belichick until they fire McCarthy. Yeah, which does well, But I wonder

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how that could be bachanneled, you
know, and you can be made as

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far as I wonder, how do
you need to sit down and have a

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four hour interview with Bill Belichick?
No, I mean I don't. I

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don't know. There's probably a couple
things you gotta get clear, and that's

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it that can be covered on a
zoom call. This is something that was

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interesting, interesting too, involving Dan
Quinn. So of all the this thing

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and this is gonna be a little
the New show, but I'll make it

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quick here. Of like offenses in
the NFL and how much motion they use,

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Okay, which is a significant thing
if you just talk about making defenses

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think about stuff. And there's some
stats that are out there about dan quinn

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struggling against quote unquote the Kyle Shanahan
coaching tree. Miami Dolphins number one motion

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eighty three percent of their plays ed
motion, the Rams, Sean McVay seventy

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percent motion, the forty nine or
seventy five percent motion. Now as I'm

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sorry, motion at the snow two
going in Dolphins, Rams, forty nine

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Ers, Packers, top four teams
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from the Kyle shanaan coaching tree or
whatever. If you go to McCarthy motion

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percentage, you get down to twenty
third in the league, which is dead

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of Sean Payton. That's by issue
was Sean Payton. That's like kind of

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old school offense. He's gonna come
ring in here. And I think that

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number got better as the season went
on, like after the very beginning.

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Yeah yeah, the media diva went
in there. Yeah, not a diva.

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I thought it was a computer hard
drive full of audio that will prove

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okay, I'm sorry, he's not
a diva. Now here's some dudes that

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are. The contracts are up,
Tony Pollard, see ya, thank you

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for your time. Contract up gone. I think so gotta be. You

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don't pay running backs. No,
I completely agree. Don't nobody tag him

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either. No one should know that
clearly than this team. Yeah, Deefon

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Gilmour probably gone if he wants to
be here. Cool. I think part

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reason they're playing zone too is because
he was hurt. I think he was.

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Maybe he's hurt because he doesn't wear
any pads. Yeah, guys wear

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pads. Aren't there to say football
guys throw the pads on in safety,

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so you have bland and digs next
year, Tyron Smith are Tyron Smith's Sorry,

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Tyron Smith. I had no idea. I had no idea what to

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do a couple of years. Yes, retire, just go so you know

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he'll be rich and happy and Tyler
and gigantic Tyler. Betish you ever spend

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any time with You've spent time with
Tyron Smith? Right? Yes? I

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went to a MAVs game and he
was in the suite and it's just you

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almost can't stop looking. The sweetest
guy. He's so sweet, but it's

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one of those you shake his hand
and I'm like, oh my god,

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he's just a monstrous human and absolutely
sweet. How you've been we've been up

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to you know, like, yeah, cool dude, but striking to just

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look at just sheer size. But
yes, retire Tyler Beiottish, pretty pretty

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solid, you know, solid.
But I can't pay people because I gotta

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pay ceedee lamb. I mean it's
probably going to extend Dak, and I'm

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probably going to at least discuss paying
Michael Parsons. I can't do a lot.

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Now we can restructure things, and
signing Dak will actually create more money

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for you. I'm sick of these
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This makes it so hard. You
just stopped. Jordan Lewis Jonathan Hankins,

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like, man, you just got
gashed on the run. Ideally Mazzie

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Smith takes over that role, but
I kind of need you. And then

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we said with Tony Powler, gon
Rico Dawdle's a free agent two and it

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just you violates every rule known to
football. Don't pay running backs, you

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just draft them. But any draft
picks for offensive lineman now too. If

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I'm letting Tyron go and I'm letting
Tyler Biatisch go, I mean, dude,

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they blew it. They blew their
chance. And it's not like it's

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unfixable. There are a lot of
things you can do to make it right,

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but ah, that hurts. And
that's why Jerry was borderline crying the

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other day. He knew it,
and he looked over the Packers just like

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they did, and they got cute. Told you they tried to out fox

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the bear. The Packers are the
current NFL bear. They are hitting on

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all cylinders and I think they get
smoked by fourteen against San Francisco on Saturday

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night. But you just can't do
that, and you can't do that to

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Jerry either and survive it. If
Min MacArthur survives this, then Jerry Jones

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is weak. He let Garrett go
for ten years. He's gonna. I

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just got embarrassed at home by the
seventh seed. Jerry's weak. I wonder

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if that win, that fool's gold
win against the Commanders in the final regular

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season game for the Cowboys played into
this like they thought, like the way

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they performed maybe the previous three weeks
was the Anoma and they show up and

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destroy Washington and in their minds it's
like, oh, Okay, this is

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who we are. We're back.
No, And it was just another case

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of them annihilating a garbage team where
they kind of had that sense of because

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I kind of bought into that.
I if you remember, we were doing

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our predictions and I was like,
oh, they seem to put it together

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against the Commanders. Okay, they're
back, And that's where my mind was

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because I thought they were gonna win
and cover against Green Bay, and collectively

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all of them they thought that they
had that in their head. It's like,

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oh, we're back, babies.
It felt good to beat somebody,

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but they knew Washington wanted to lose. Basically, yeah, I mean Washington

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lost eighth straight to ensure they got
the second pick overall. So no,

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I don't think they're full by that
particular game Cowboys by they locked in to

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pick twenty four. All right,
Well, I have plenty of stuff for

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you there coverage tomorrow, but not
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