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Hey, yeah, we can miss
whole thing. Just on what's got some

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screwed jay? What's it in the
green room? And I'm like, I

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see he's on air right now.
I'm like, maybe you got the time

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schedule screwed up. No, I
just uh, my plan was to push

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the podcast tonight on my podcast,
and then I didn't. I looked up

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and I saw it was seven o
two and I was like, oh crap,

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I gotta quit. So no,
no, I was just trying to

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hurry up out of there. I
didn't notice the time. Dude. It's

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such a weird time because like this
freaking thing drops this morning. It's like

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we had this other thing we wanted
to talk to you about, and it's

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a weird thing for us to talk
to you about because I'm not going to

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debate you because you're a maniac debater. But yeah, that's such a week,

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like like I almost feel like it's
like, you know, the Italian

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thing, like like you don't you
don't discuss the family stuff outside the family,

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you know. Like but I'll say
this, man, I think whatever

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your opinions on Francis are, or
whatever our opinions on Francis are, I

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think this is a bad thing for
Christianity in general when something like this happens,

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because for those of us that are
all trying to defend the indissolubility of

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marriage between a man and a woman
and things like that, it makes us

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look like even worse because you even
have people in the hierarchy saying that this

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is a good thing. So,
you know, we'll we'll try to stay

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off that topic to Yeah, we
don't have to talk about we don't talk

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about that, Yeah, just because
I would like to see you debate.

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I heard you even saying at the
end of your stream, like you and

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Tim Gordon, we're going to debate
to something, right, Well, he

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wants to debate like, you know, pretty intense metaphysics, philosophy, topics,

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which is fine. You know,
I don't know how I guess you

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could theoretically debate like has Romancaloic moral
theology changed or something like that. I

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mean maybe you could have that debate. I don't know how you would approach

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like it would be. I mean
maybe Trent would want to debate it.

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But when I was talking to to
Trent, you know, I was saying,

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why don't we debate something like the
history of the papacy, because it

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all, like all the papacy debates
end up being like what's the meaning of

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infallibility? And is this statement infallible? So that's like the whole debate ends

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up being that, which I don't
mind having that debate. I just feel

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like has been had many, many, many times. So I'm just typically

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trying to find other angles and ways
to discuss the topic, Like like I

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just one of the funt big medieval
history book, Like I'd like to talk

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about some of that, you know, not the same old Well, what

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do you say to this quote?
Quote? Mian, what about this?

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What about this quote? What about
this quote? One of the one of

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the funniest debates I've ever seen you
have was Bryce and Gray because I was

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screaming at my screen trying to like
you were you were giving this guy the

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simplest concept for them to understand,
and he just couldn't understand the concept.

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You were like, No, He's
like I just did answer. You're like,

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you did not answer what I just
put in front of you, Like,

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what are you talking about? Like, Bryson Gray's got some strange theology.

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Yeah, you're super hard headed,
dude. I mean he's a nice

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guy in person, but like the
theology, he's super hard headed. I

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don't know what is he though,
Like does he is? He calls it

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an uh, well, he doesn't
call up arian, but he's an aryan

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version of Messianic Judaism, so he
thinks Jesus is the Messiah but he's purely

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man. And then he calls it
Messianic Judaism, where you're supposed to follow

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the Torah. Wait, so do
Messianic Jews not believe in the Trinity?

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Then no, I would say most
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haven't told them, but many are. Majority of them would probably say they

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believe in the deedy of Christ.
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constructed, sort of his own thing. That's pretty strange. Yeah, dude,

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the reason I wanted to get you
on, So I did you watch

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that? Did you watch that Obama
movie Leave World Behind? Yeah? We

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did a whole podcast on it.
Dude, I watched that freaking movie and

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Rob didn't watch it, and it
was like, it was kind of hard

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for me to have a conversation with
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And it was one of those things
where I felt like I was watching

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something that they were planning to do
to us. Yeah, it was just

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this this weird feeling I had afterward
where it left me unnerved, and people

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mistook me saying that for saying it
was a good movie. It's not that

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I thought it was a good movie
or anything. I thought it was well

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put together in that, especially because
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if you live on Long Island and
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you're trapped on the island, you're
not getting food in, you're not

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getting off the island, You're stuck
here. It would be complete mayhem.

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And it's been like a fear that
I've had for a long time. What

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were your thoughts on that movie initially
when you saw it. Yeah, we

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took a lot of notes. Jamie
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it was gonna be kind of a
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film, and especially if you've got
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you know it's gonna be sure,
it's gonna be a doozy. So we

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took a lot of notes on it. My first thought was that, like

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it's the idea it was supposed to
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it'supposed to be a realistic portrayal what
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So that did pique my interest,
but I knew it was going to

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have, you know, some of
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it going on. It's going to
promote the vision, because usually when Obama

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puts out stuff, it's always it's
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you know, initially it's sort of
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the story, right, is trying
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fancy airbnb from a black couple.
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suddenly come home because there's been some
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going down, and the first thing
they think is hackers. But you have

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this really awkward exchange between Ethan Hawk
and Julia Roberts and the black guy and

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his daughter, and they're trying to
figure out what do we do here.

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We're in your house right where the
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they have to make this you know, compromise about how they're going to spend

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the night, and then things kind
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right off the bat, they try
to make out Julia Roberts to be this

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racist bit wine Mom, Yeah,
she's a kidah right here. But at

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the same time, it's like,
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your door. You're on Long Island
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crazy to think like maybe something's going
on here going on. So while we're

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watching it, my wife is like, she's like, what would you do

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in this Scenario'm like, I gotta
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in a tuxedo with a young girl, they're in a nice car, Like

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it almost seems too unbelievable to not
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that might get me. But you
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up at your door in Airbnb claiming
the things they were, like, you're

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not going to be quick to let
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make her out to be like this
psycho for not wanting the strangers in the

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house. Yeah, so you're supposed
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oh, maybe yours you got micro
racial aggressions going on if you want to

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defend your house, right, So
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viewer's supposed to feel guilt trip to
guilt trip. I think you're right about

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that, right. But I also
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saw that series a few years ago, mister Robot, right, So the

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guy that directed this, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, So the

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guy that directed this is the director
of that. And some people were saying,

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like Internet nerds are saying, oh, this is supposed to take place

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in the same universe. That's why. Uh, they start speculating early on

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the movie that it's hackers, right, hackers have brought down the you know,

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Internet or whatever. And Julia Roberts
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She's like, oh, it's hackers. And so that was weird because

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you know, we've been hearing cyber
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Right, So, right after the
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World Like Inform they ran these exercises
of cyber Polygon where there's a cyber pandemic

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where basically the Internet goes out and
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this will be way worse, Klaus
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So that was my first thought was
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like, is this talking about Klaus
was a great reset? Right?

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And as we're watching the movie,
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might be like a great reset scenario, right, Like whoever's bringing down the

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country is resetting it back to uh, you know eighteen hundred's prairie, you

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know, scenario where you don't have
electricity and you know you can't. They

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even hinted at being the elites that
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know, Yeah, that guy is
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guy says, you know, I'm
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lot of you know, high high
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works for the militaryandoes for complex and
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these contingency plans for certain scenarios and
he said, you know, it might

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be the end of the world.
Cabal, like a cabal's running it.

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He's like, but I didn't believe
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And then but then it comes you
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know actually they have done this.
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I think is the hinting that it
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this. There also has to be
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country down, And that's hinted at
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that part's true as well, Like
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require a lot of sort of internal
subversion as well. Real quick, Jay,

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since our audience might not be as
knowledgeable on this as yours, can

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you just quickly explain what predictive programming
is? Yeah? So I got into

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this in grad school because I was
always a movie boff. And then I

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started when I was studying geopolitics and
history in grad school, I started noticing,

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like, well, a lot of
movies have, you know, like

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truthful things in them, but a
lot of times they skew it. A

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lot of times it's propaganda. So
I was really interested in, like,

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what's the relationship between movies and fiction
and propaganda. So my master's thesis is

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on that topic, and I went
into the Cold War era. I study

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James Bond, how he was used
in the Cold War as a symbol of

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propaganda and Western attitudes in the Cold
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that actually quite a bit of fiction
and movies are propaganda. So more specifically,

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predictive programming is the idea that there
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whether in movies or print or whatever, to condition people to what you want

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to do down the road. So
it's not saying that every movie ever is

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like mind control or was programmed,
but rather to say that a lot of

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movies and a lot of fiction has
had messages put into it, seeded,

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so to speak, to prepare people
for things to come. So, for

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example, isn't the CIA very involved
in a lot of the Hollywood script writing?

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Oh? Absolutely. In fact,
let me grab a couple of these

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books here, dude, he's the
best of this stuff. I could talk

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to Jay about this stuff all night. Yeah. So, when I was

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studying this right in the academic sphere, I was actually surprised that the academic

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literature that already existed on this topic
because I thought, well, nobody really

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knows about this is it's a real
thing. But like there's I already started

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finding back in the two thousands academic
publications on this. Right. So this

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is not a this is not a
conspiracy book. This is a University of

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Texas press. Right. You can
see it's academic text, and it's a

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woman who's one of the first to
write on this topic, Professor Tricia Jenkins.

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And here she was just talking mainly
about like all the CIA was consulting

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on shows like Alias, the jj
Abrams Show, a lot of other projects

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that the CIA consulted on. Another
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nine to eleven, this is about
two thousand and four. It's another academic

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publication about how Hollywood uh is programming, programming us through the Pentagon's propaganda in

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a lot of different movies, and
how they have oversight over a lot of

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screenplays. And so, I mean
that's stuff still all pretty tame though it's

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kind of like, you know,
low level propaganda, sort of promoting the

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military, promoting Americanism. But when
you start getting deeper into specifics, I

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read a book by this is a
guy who had some function at the CIA.

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Forget what, but it's called The
Great Game and it's called The Realities

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in the Myths of Espionage by Frederick
Hits. And in this book he talks

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about the history of spy fiction and
how a lot of times in early British

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spy fiction they would put what they
couldn't talk about into their fiction, right,

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So Britain has a law called Official
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talk about anything you were involved in
if you were a spy. So what

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a lot of the spies would do
was just write fiction. Like Graham Green,

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famous spy, he writes fiction stories. So they started putting reality into

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the fiction. And there's actually a
really famous movie about this idea. It's

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one of the first I can think
of about kind of what predictive programming is.

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It's called Three Days of the Condor
and has Robert Redford, and his

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job is as a CIA analyst.
He basically just combs through fiction and he

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looks for things in fiction that might
be cryptographic messages or something like that,

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or signs that the Soviets are up
to something, right, So he's basically

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studying fiction, and then he ends
up in this big conspiracy plot. It's

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a really good movie. I recommend
watching it. The CIA guys are trying

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to basically kill him, so you
know. So that's what I wrote about

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in my books. And I'll give
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In two thousand, I forget what
year. This was a few years

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ago, people put in a foyer
request. This is from a book called

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National Security Cinema, and I'll quote
them really briefly. It said, we

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acquire four thousand new pages of documents
from the Pentagon, the CIA through a

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foya for US. These documents were
the final nail in the coffin. Documents

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for the first time demonstrate the US
government work behind the scenes on over eight

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hundred major movies and over more than
one thousand TV shows in the last several

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decades. National Security Cinema details how
the US government was involved in projects ranging

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from James Bond to the Transformers to
the Marvel and DC Universe. A similar

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influence was exalted was exerted over many
TV shows, including Hawaii five O,

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America's Got Talent, Oprah, Jay
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things as innocuous as Nicky had like
pro you know, military recruitment stuff put

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in there. Anyway. It goes
on to say that including the CIA consulting

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on shows like Top Chef. And
the reason for that is that people think

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that entities like the CAA all they're
just involved in, you know, overseas

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operations. Now they're actually involved in
culture creation. So they have a huge

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role in steering culture, movies,
music, and so that's something that just

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most people still don't even know about. And that's, by the way,

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why so many actors in Hollywood people
have been spies. So when you looked

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at okay, so before before the
pandemic hits us, you had that.

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they talk about a coronavirus com like
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to happen. It was event to
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a vent to a one happens.
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Klaus Schwab starting to come out talking
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getting hit with a movie like the
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things like that. There's even a
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War that they're showing about Alan Warland. Yeah, did you see the trailer

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for that? Yeah? So right, So Alex Garland, he's done a

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lot of these very kind of deep
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had I think he wrote twenty eight
days later the famous zombie movie. You

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know, he had a big hit
when he made the movie X Mashiina,

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which is kind of a dystopian AI
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that movie was very predictive of what
it was saying, because we'll get it.

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We're getting the AI girlfriends rolling out
now, right, That's what that

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movie is about. Uh. And
so he also did a movie called Annihilation,

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which is kind of a weird Luciferian
kind of thing where people are being

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copied and cloned by this kind of
demonic alien entity. So like, he

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has a history of kind of doing
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I won't be surprised if I can
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know, it's a similar sort of
story to what you have in the Obama

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movie. It's like, oh,
you know, America's collapsing and the MAGA

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people are the bad people and they're
the ones behind it, and only if

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we, you know, follow the
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saved. That's what I mean,
that's what it looks like for the Okay,

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so the irony of that, So
Rob and I were talking about this

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because all you have is a trailer
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tell even just from the trailer,
it talks about the whatever president is in

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it goes for a third term,
so it sounds almost like Trump wins,

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Trump gets a third term, and
then you go because look, they ran

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these these war games before the twenty
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will we do, and they actually
plan out these war games of what states

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will secede and all these things,
because as long as the Democrat wins,

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you won't get Republican seceding, but
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left seceding. And that's why that
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like Trump wins. Now you get
the California secedes, and you start getting

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these breakaway movements. But it doesn't
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civil war will look a specific way
because of how the last civil war in

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America went, But it won't look
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sand North or South civil war.
That's a good point. Yeah, I

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don't know exactly how it would look
like. You know, I'm not like

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a military expert kind of dude,
so I'm sure there's a lot of people

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who you know, in the military. They could probably speak to that way

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better than me. I mean,
but the military is always running drills for

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that kind of stuff all the time. I mean a lot of people have

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forgotten. Remember jade Helm. That
was a huge deal, like seven eight

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years ago. I mean, the
conspiracy world was going nuts over it because

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they were doing these large scale exercises
for large scale US collapse and they're called

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jade Helm, and at that time, all the preppers and all the all

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the sort of you know, patriot
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well, this is the exercise where
they're preparing to collapse the country and this

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kind of stuff. So, I
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lot of analysis at the time saying
that I thought that this was a lot

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of hype and it wasn't really gonna
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but thinking back, like now,
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jade Helm was like you know,
what's coming in the near future. I

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don't know, but what jade Helm
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the military respond to I don't remember
exactly what the threat was. I can't

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remember if it was patriots or foreign
enemy, but basically it was like people

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were having to be you know,
rounded up and sent to walmarts. Walmarts

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became big detainment centers. You know, it's Katrina style stuff for people were

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brought into sporting arenas, you know
that kind of stuff. Right, So

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there was, you know, the
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camps and all that. I mean, jade Helm was a real exercise,

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right. I'm not saying they were
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the exercise was multi state military exercise
about how to respond in a big collapse

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type scenario or a civil war scenario. And if I remember the main the

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main emphasis was AI. So jade
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garnering information about how AI would aid
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this theory that the biggest thing standing
in the way of some one world governmental

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organization basically is the US Constitution,
like the US Constitution, our freedom of

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speech, because you see, they're
enacting all these laws in other countries around

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the world, especially Australia. Australia
is like some of the things that go

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on over there in a New Zealand. It's just bonkers, right, And

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I think they'd have a hard time
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constitution. So part of me thinks, like, the reason they're opening our

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borders and flooding our borders, and
part of the reason they're trying to purposely

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tank our economy and all this is
to destabilize us to the point where we

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just our constitution has to go out
the window. And that plot to that

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move the seemed kind of plausible to
me, like they're just like just not

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their electricity. Yet, let them
kill each other. We don't have to

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do anything to them. I think
you're right on that on the right train

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there, because I mean, I
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probably have some criticisms of the Enlightenment
ideas behind America and the Constitution all that,

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but that doesn't mean everything about it's
bad. Yeah, right, So

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you do have a lot of these
limitations and these firewalls and these checks in

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place that we're meant to, you
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global elite perspective, at least in
the way they speak in a lot of

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their books, they seem to have
that attitude where they view it like you

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know, on the on the road
to where we want to go for the

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technocratic global government, we have to
kind of go through these phases where we

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get rid of the US or or
at least like the way Klaus and them

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have talked about it is like the
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but it has to like it has
to be humbled and learn, like taking

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down a few notches at least is
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what do you make of Elon dude, Because it's it's weird because he's

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the guy who's actually trying to put
nouralink together, but he's also the guy

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disrupting the system a little bit.
He let Alex Jones back on, and

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he seems like like I can't tell
if he's completely a bad guy just trying

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to subvert us, or if he's
got some good elements to him and maybe

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he's a pawn of his own destruction
or something, which it would be a

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question. Again, I know,
I don't know his motives. I've ever

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talked to him. I don't know, you know, I think best case

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scenario he's in a process of waking
up, and he really is waking up,

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and there's things that indicate that worst
case scenario, he's you know,

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just kind of playing around and screwing
with everybody and it's just a chess game

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for him. I don't know,
but I would, I would. I

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think I tonally lean towards the former
that it seems like, you know,

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it's a best case scenario at least, that he's he's doing good things so

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far, right, Yeah, but
we do have to be on guard and

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not kind of like throw all of
our eggs in one basket. Because yeah,

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it's a good sign that he's South
African because he's seen the end result

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of so many of these different programs
happened to his own country, So that's

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true. Yeah, it just scares
me because he's put you put your faith

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so much in one guy, and
then they can just take that one guy

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out and now he's going to have
so much because what he's doing with X

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is he's trying to make it the
everything platform. We're giving him all of

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our data. We're like, we're
using this as the main thing. So

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if you just take him out,
now you and now you put another person

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at the helm of it. Now
somebody else, we need decent realization,

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not the opposite. Yeah, somebody
was talking about I think Andrew was saying,

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like his theory was that Elon wanted
X because if you buy X,

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then you got access to basically,
like you said, like every DM and

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everybody's data. So like whatever senator
was dumb enough to, you know,

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tweet the chick that he's cheating on
his wife with. Right now, Elon

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has that data. So uh yeah, that could be I didn't think about

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that angle of like a control move. But at the same time, it's

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like, well, but the NSA
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It was like the data was there, so I don't know how much Like

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Okay, so like if somebody else
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if Elon's doesn't have Twitter anymore,
what are they going to do with

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that? Like, I mean,
they already know who's on what side.

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I think AI's probably I don't know, but it's probably smart enough from a

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programmer perspective that they already have everybody
classified as to where they stand politically or

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you know what I mean. So
it's like, when do you think we

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get to the point where they start
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Like you saw all the h Herrari
videos where he's talking about, well,

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we'll just have the AI start coming
out with new scriptures and things like

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that. I mean, we're on
the verge of people worshiping this artificial intelligence

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as it is. Well, I
mean THX one, one, three,

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eight, right, that's one of
George. That's George Leucas's first movie,

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and that movie kind of combines all
the dystopian stories into one. And in

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that movie he has AI as the
kind of god. So when you go

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to confession, have you seen THHX? No, Oh, man, you

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gotta watch it. Because in THHX, this this dystopian in the future where

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the where the humans live underground.
It's kind of like a Brave New World

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scenario and the only job of the
humans is to build a robots that enslave

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them right. And so basically,
when you go to confession, if you

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start feeling bad, you go into
this booth and it's a robot Jesus that

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you confess to. Oh my gosh, I mean, it's from a movie.

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From a movie perspective. It's good
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on the verge of where this is
going to be rolling out right? Well,

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what was that? What was that
movie on Netflix with where like they

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could transfer your your consciousness into another
person alter altered carbon, Altered Carbon where

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the only people against this was the
Catholic Church In Altered Carbon, it was

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like the it was like the old
Catholics were against this because your soul couldn't

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go out. It was still funny, how like they had a form of

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Christianity that was still like against the
idea of transferring your consciousness into another being

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because yeah, your soul. Yeah, Christianity doesn't play into a lot of

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sci fi stuff very rarely. It's
kind of a little bit there in Dune.

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But it's weird because it's like the
Orange Catholic Yeah, all is blended

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with Islam or Southism to form this
new kind of weird religion around palm Wood.

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Ye. I think you know that
Mormon dude orson Scott Card right,

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he has a Hi a Mormon planet, there's a Catholic planet, there's atheist

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planet. So so. But yeah, usually religion doesn't play into the sci

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fi future worlds. But if it
does, you're right, it's like some

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kind of weird. Uh, you
know AI god or something that people are

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worshiping. Yeah. Man, we
we just had a We've been trying to

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push back on evolution a lot on
our channel lately. We just had somebody,

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a woman on from the Colby Center
the other day, a biologist just

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talking about evolution. Like I just
I see evolution and aliens and AI all

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coming together as one thing very soon, Like all of it is as a

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narrative that we're all going to pull
for. Yeah. I think uh.

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I did several chapters and I think
my well, actually the first book am

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I second book. I had several
chapters where I was talking about how a

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lot of the movies about alien stuff
is preparing us for I think kind of

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a potential future new religion. I
think the ideal of the global elite would

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be to have a completely manufactured and
create a religion. For example, we

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see that in a lot of the
dystopian fiction from people from the Power Structure.

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Right if you read Brave New World. I just reread that. We

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did a whole five episode podcast on
that. I didn't even realize that it's

408
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.720
basically a sex magic religion around drugs. I'd forgotten that in Brave New World.

409
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:42.160
There's a future religion based around that. I think a lot of the

410
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alien fiction people like HG. Wells
and others, I think they were kind

411
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of warming us up for the potentiality
of a future new alien religion. There's

412
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:57.119
a nineteen sixty eight Brookings Institute document
produced for NASA where in that document I

413
00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:02.680
put this in my second book.
They talked about how if alien life was

414
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disclosed, they believed it would have
the effect of destabilizing Western Biblical religion.

415
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:14.720
So that was what the document says, And here we are, by the

416
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.559
way. I think the last two
years has been just like it's weird because

417
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.839
it seems like not many people are
paying that much attention to it. But

418
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:23.599
like in the conspiracy world, everybody
was like, oh, they're going to

419
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.440
announce all this aliens, which I
think is all bs is all sciop.

420
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.759
I don't believe in aliens, but
now they're rolling out all this alien bologney.

421
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:34.759
I think it's totally a syop.
They bring out all these intelligence agents

422
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:40.240
who we've discovered alien bodies from crash
crafts. I think it's all but they

423
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:42.720
don't even say bodies. They'll say, well, yes, we found biologics

424
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:45.480
because they're on their oath, right, so they have to be careful and

425
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.319
they can't. So like, what
the heck is a biologic? Like what

426
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.480
do you even call? Yeah?
Exactly, like, well the woman asked

427
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.240
them while he's in the roaths,
Well, so did you find alien bodies?

428
00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.440
We found non human biologics is what
we found. So like that could

429
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.960
be a freaking a squirrel, Like, what are you even talking about?

430
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:08.039
After drugs they advertise on TV to
us or biologics. Now that's a good

431
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:12.359
point. Yeah, it's such a
weird thing. But I've noticed that almost

432
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:21.319
without exception, the because especially with
Catholics that believe in evolution, almost all

433
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.960
of them, with that exception,
will also grant that the possibility of aliens

434
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:29.799
is there. It's because if you
believe life formed from them they go together

435
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.799
sludge here, then it could have
happened somewhere else and we're nothing significant And

436
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:38.880
it's just the way your mind automatically
will think of it. Do you think

437
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.920
aliens is a one hundred percent sye
O? But do you think there's anything

438
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:45.559
demonic going on there? Like,
do you think there's anything to it?

439
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:51.000
I think there's some elements to it
which are demonic because and even some of

440
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:53.960
the people from that domain say that, right, like even people who don't

441
00:31:53.960 --> 00:32:00.200
even believe in demons or God or
whatever. Like Jacques Vallee. I think

442
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:05.240
he was an occultist Rosicrucian, and
I mean he's one of the most famous

443
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.839
people kind of involved in this stuff
at at a deep level. You know,

444
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:13.519
he wrote several books talking about how
even though he didn't know exactly what

445
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:15.920
was going on, he said it
was like malevolent entities. So there is

446
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:22.079
an element I think, to which
there are these sort of spiritual malevolent forces

447
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.240
involved in this. But I think
at like the human level for the most

448
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:30.039
part, a lot of its maloonean
syops, and it's intentional though in fact,

449
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:35.480
you can go into there's a good
book that the Collins Brothers, their

450
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:37.960
new book Invoking the Beyond. They've
got about three hundred pages in their book

451
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:43.680
dedicated to the alien syop. It's
probably the best thing I've seen so far

452
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:46.839
exposing the alien nonsense as a syop. And they go into the whole history

453
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:52.839
of like the CIA was consulting on
some of the first alien movies. C.

454
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.279
D. Jackson, The Big Pyops, Cye warfare guy, by the

455
00:32:55.279 --> 00:33:00.559
way, involved in the Catholic He
wasn't Catholic. What I'm saying. He

456
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:04.079
was involved in the doctrinal warfare program. He's the brains behind that. He

457
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:08.039
was also consulting on some of these
early alien movies. It should be noted

458
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:14.279
that the CA was created the same
year Roswell happened great point exactly, and

459
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.680
I think the Collins brothers talk about
that. In fact, the first abductee,

460
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:24.079
guy Georgia Dampsky, Alan Dulles,
threatened to go to court against people

461
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:29.559
that wanted to call a Dampski a
fraud. Well, why would the hell

462
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:34.759
did the CIA be involved in like
trying to cover for this lunatic, you

463
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.880
know, claiming nonsense about being abducted
and stuff. So yeah, I think

464
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:42.720
it's absolutely bound up with the intelligence
deep state. From the very beginning.

465
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.480
It's totally been a sigh out.
But I do think there is like a

466
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:49.680
demonic element. And I do agree
with you that it's very perceptive to note

467
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:54.519
the alien stuff too, or the
evolution stuff, because part of the alien

468
00:33:54.640 --> 00:34:00.119
narrative has relied on the idea that
well, if the cause most is billions

469
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:05.640
of years old, then it stands
to reason that life would have probably in

470
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.800
that time frame, developed somewhere else. Oh, you're absolutely right. Well,

471
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:14.360
I don't believe in like Aon's of
Big Bang, and I believe in

472
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:20.440
Young Earth. So I love meeting
somebody else that doesn't think I'm crazy for

473
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:27.800
this, because it's been it's been
kind of like just this past year just

474
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:34.280
coming to this understanding that evolution is
just a creation myths. It's just a

475
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:38.039
creation myth because when you really understand
every culture that came before us, they

476
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:44.519
all had their creation myth, and
especially when you like I've been listening to

477
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:49.119
some of the commentary on the Book
of Enoch lately, and some of the

478
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:53.239
commentary really talks directly like getting back
into the alien stuff, but it it

479
00:34:53.360 --> 00:35:00.440
talks about like the angelic beings giving
technology to the human and it seems like

480
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:05.360
if they're having these occult rituals,
like some of this stuff that you're seeing,

481
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:09.960
could be human beings being influenced by
the demonic to create technology that is

482
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:15.960
beyond human capabilities and things like that. You know, yeah, it's very

483
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.000
possible. You know, Alex believes
that. He's always talking about that.

484
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.960
I've read some of the biographies of
some of the guys involved in some of

485
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:29.599
the MK ultra stuff. Like if
you read John C. Lilly's autobiography,

486
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:31.320
he was the guy who was putting
the brain chips and dolphins right in the

487
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:36.440
fifties and sixties. Yeah, they
were trying to the early developers of like

488
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:43.000
you know, brain RFID technology.
He claims that. And he was the

489
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:47.719
guy who would do the float tanks
right where he would do really like hardcore

490
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:52.199
hallucinogens and then get in the float
tank and trip out. And he claims

491
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:58.920
that in those sessions, like he
would get ideas and information from the entities

492
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.199
that he would interact with on these
really hardcore trips. So, and he

493
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:06.760
believes in his autobiography he thinks they're
aliens, right, we would say their

494
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.239
demons. But so I think there's
some I think there is possibility for that.

495
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:14.519
This is I know you guys are
are Catholic, but there's a really

496
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:20.400
good book that critiques this, this
whole idea of evolution from a Patrici perspective.

497
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:24.280
And it's a sur from Rose's book
Genesis Creation Early Man. Uh,

498
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:28.679
So you might like that, even
though I'll definitely read that most of it's

499
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:31.400
actually just going to the Church Father, So it's not mainly about Orthodoxy,

500
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:38.159
but he has another book, Orthodoxy
in the Religion the Future, where he

501
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:45.440
critiques the alien stuff as demonic as
well. So from a theological perspective,

502
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:51.000
that's a good book, yeah to
me, And I think it's a com

503
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:54.719
I mean, I see, so
the psy angle of it is so obvious

504
00:36:54.760 --> 00:37:00.320
to me, where they'll they'll send
somebody out to even let him go before

505
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:04.800
Congress, and then the organization itself
will just denied, denied, don't know,

506
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.559
I don't know. You know,
it's it's how they always would trickle

507
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:14.840
information out to get it planted.
I mean, it's predictive programming. It's

508
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:17.639
to get you to start thinking about
it. So do you think there's anything

509
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:22.360
to the what is it Project Bluebeam
or something? Is that where they're going

510
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.679
to actually have a fake alien invasion? And said, what one was that?

511
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:31.960
Yeah, I think you're Bluebeam was
the idea of using like holographic technology,

512
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:37.000
right, could be. I mean
it seems like they're going with,

513
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:44.639
uh, you know, these intelligence
agents coming out and saying that they've found

514
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:47.440
bodies and all that kind of stuff. But really that's not anything new because

515
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:52.400
if you go back to the original
claims of Roswell, I mean, that's

516
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.119
kind of what was happening at Roswell, right. This this military guy's claiming

517
00:37:55.199 --> 00:38:00.480
that they found this crashed craft and
he's holding up looks like freaking tenfoil.

518
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:07.760
It doesn't look like anything legitimate.
So the recent stuff with this Gorish guy,

519
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:09.400
I mean, it all seems kind
of just seems to be a rehashing

520
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:15.480
of the original Roswell stuff. So
I don't think it's real in that sense,

521
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.199
any of that's real. But I
think that they definitely could try to

522
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:25.119
roll out some kind of holographic scenario. It's it's possible. I don't I

523
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:30.719
don't even think they didn't use holographic. They need to even do that.

524
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:34.400
I mean, you know, I
think AI at this point is I mean

525
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:38.000
they can the way they can generate
imagery now, I mean, even with

526
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:43.119
deep fakes and things like that,
Like, I really think I think that

527
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:49.239
we're not really prepared for what's coming
down the road AI wise. Well also,

528
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:55.280
I mean probably the real crafts that
they have are very advanced, right,

529
00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:00.159
Like publicly they tell us the fastest
craft is like some you know,

530
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:07.719
be silent bomber from the seventies or
sixties or something. Yeah, so it's

531
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.679
like, obviously they've developed stuff way
more advanced than that. In my opinion,

532
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:15.440
probably a lot of the UFO videos
that you see, it's probably advanced

533
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:22.440
drones. So I think that rather
than using holograms like blue Beam, they

534
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.239
would probably just if they wanted a
fake an alien scenario, they probably just

535
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.800
our own technology that could actually could
fake in. At this point. Also

536
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:36.280
important to keep in mind, I
don't think that this is all the only

537
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.880
thing that the alien narrative was about, but in the Cold War, a

538
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:44.960
lot of the alien narrative was a
cover and a cloak for the tech that

539
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:50.000
was being developed for the Cold War, so they put I think I don't

540
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.280
think that was the only reason they
were putting out the alien narrative, but

541
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:54.039
a lot of the alien stories that
they were putting out were to kind of

542
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:59.519
cover. It was disinformation for what
they were really developing in the midst of

543
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.519
the Cold War. A lot of
the early UFO sightings in the fifties were

544
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:07.920
actually the YouTube spyplane, yes,
stuff like that. Yeah, so there's

545
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.400
an alien cover smoke screen that they'll
use at times. The UFO cover.

546
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.320
But I think also, like I
said, from that nineteen sixty eight Brookings

547
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:22.480
Institute document, like they also saw
the social engineering potentiality for you know,

548
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:28.960
an alien life announcement scenario. Yeah. Man, I just feel like every

549
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.519
I dude, they got me to
the point where I don't trust anything anymore.

550
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:37.480
I mean, how because you've kind
of been in the conspiracy realm for

551
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:43.119
a lot longer than I have,
obviously, you know, but something happened

552
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:47.639
with I guess, I guess it
was really Trump was like the the you

553
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:52.320
know, just everything fell apart with
Trump, where I just saw every single

554
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:58.000
thing they're doing is trying to build
a narrative and even seeing World War two

555
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:05.920
as like the American narrative was built
around World War Two and our whole understanding

556
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:10.480
of who we are as the saviors
of that whole war and going against Hitler

557
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:16.559
and that whole like that, that
all of that is what built the what

558
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:22.239
is it, like, the liberal
the New World Liberal or whatever, the

559
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:25.960
Bretton Woods Agreement, the post World
War two you know scenario. Yeah,

560
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:30.920
exactly. It seems like all of
that is starting to crumble and they want

561
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.360
to put something new in its place, and that they need a new event

562
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:39.400
to base a new narrative on.
Yeah, that's that's also very perceptive because

563
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:45.159
the last two world wars in the
last century. You know, according to

564
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:58.239
mainstream geopolitical analysis, the purpose of
the the post war global institutions. For

565
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:00.760
example, after World War One,
World War One led to the League of

566
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:06.719
Nations and the purpose of Leaga Nations
was to be the entity that would ensure

567
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.480
democracy for the world. It didn't
really work. There were senators that were

568
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:15.320
blocking the UN at that time.
I assumed the League Nations because they felt

569
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.440
it was a surrending of American sovereignty. So it failed. Then you had

570
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.760
World War Two, and World War
Two, according to Quigley, was the

571
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:28.360
basis for the United Nations. The
United Nations was supposed to be the entity

572
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.039
then that would succeed where the League
of Nations failed to basically bring about a

573
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:37.679
world government. Right, it hasn't
really succeeded, although after koof we did

574
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:43.039
actually concede a lot of power to
the UN. So I think you're right

575
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:46.079
though that I don't know obviously,
I'm not predicting the future, but there's

576
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:52.000
a good chance that to bring in
the next level of right to level up

577
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.880
from League of Nations to the United
Nations to you know, super United Nations.

578
00:42:54.920 --> 00:43:00.000
Whatever, it's going to be some
kind of catalyzing event. Could probably

579
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:07.800
be that economic collapse, world war, fake alien invasion, and a new

580
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:10.159
scandemic. I mean, I don't
know, but you know, you could

581
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:15.239
be any of those. I think
it'll probably be some some kind of it.

582
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:17.239
I mean, I think you just
got to believe what they're telling you.

583
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:21.119
And I really do think a lot
of this is predictive programming, and

584
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:22.920
I really do think you're going to
see some kind of cyber thing happen.

585
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:28.559
But going back to even just the
narrative building, like you could see what

586
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:32.920
built Western civilization was the Christian impulse
to go forth and baptize all nations and

587
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:39.599
spread the Gospel, where the past
century has been more, go and spread

588
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:43.880
democracy. It's like the new Gospel, Right, let's go and spread democracy,

589
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:49.320
Let's bring democracy to the Middle East. And it does not It's just

590
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:53.480
not working no matter how much they
try. So I think that they're going

591
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:59.920
to have some other way, Like
I feel like twenty twenty was just kind

592
00:43:59.920 --> 00:44:01.519
of like a little warm up from
them to test the waters, to see

593
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:06.760
what they could get away with and
something bigger is coming along they just I

594
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:09.360
don't. I mean, it's it's
weird because even in that movie, one

595
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:15.000
of the things they left you with
was there's not this group of people that

596
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:19.360
are controlling everything. Nobody's really in
control, but a lot of these people

597
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.360
do get a heads up about some
of the things that are going to happen.

598
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.800
Right, Oh yeah, that was
crazy. Like so on the one

599
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:31.559
hand, the movie's kind of hinting
that there's this shadowy, subversive foreign and

600
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:37.119
domestic entity that is bringing the country
down. But then the guy says,

601
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:39.639
but nobody's running anything, and it's
all just chaos, right, So it's

602
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:44.840
like this weird atheistic thing, like
was he talking about the because he mentions

603
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:50.079
the cabal and then he's like,
but nobody's running anything, almost like there's

604
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:53.920
no God, there's no purpose.
Right, So it's unclear exactly what he

605
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:59.119
meant by that statement. But then
obviously he also says that there's got to

606
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.400
be internal to bring America down.
So that's what happened. So something we

607
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:06.440
don't know, right, and the
movie leaves you never really knowing who was

608
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:12.079
behind it. But but I think
that it ties into what you said earlier

609
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:15.519
that you know, from the perspective
of the global elite, if you did

610
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:19.880
want to bring in a world government, you would have to bring the United

611
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:25.960
States down because it does present a
kind of roadblock. You would probably do

612
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:31.599
that through internal enemies and having no
border and having you know, all kinds

613
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:36.760
of other crazy synems. You just
think about, what's the point of opening

614
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:40.440
the border to foreign to foreigners,
right? And what what you're what you're

615
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:46.199
doing is destroying the cohesion of people
has right like America never had a unifying

616
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:51.880
religion. We've always because it really
religion should be the thing that unifies the

617
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:54.480
culture. It's what has always unified
cultures throughout history history, right, Like

618
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:59.119
even Paganism, you had your pagan
rituals and you would all go to your

619
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:04.639
festivals, and so the Roman Empire
falls apart. A lot of people mistakenly

620
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:08.280
think Christianity destroyed the Roman Empire.
No, it was a bunch of factors,

621
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:13.559
but a big part of those factors
was paganism itself. They stop believing

622
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:19.039
in these rituals and following these these
different religious rituals that they were performing.

623
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.400
So on top of that, you
start getting you know, they're overstretched,

624
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.239
and you know, barbarian hordes coming
in and things like that. But the

625
00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:30.880
idea of letting anybody come into your
border, it's to break the cohesion that

626
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.440
a people has, so you no
longer feel as one. And there's something

627
00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:38.719
very real about divide and conqueror so
if you keep everybody at their throats fighting

628
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:44.119
about everything and only arguing about the
things they want you to argue about,

629
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:47.280
Like, dude, I'm so tired
of the trans argument, Like I just

630
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:51.239
don't care anymore. But they keep
forcing that argument down on the throat,

631
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:52.760
the woke thing. But that's what
they want us doing. They just want

632
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:58.320
us fighting with each other and at
each other's throats. Oh absolutely, I

633
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:00.519
mean divide and conquer, that's kind
of base. But I mean, you

634
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:04.800
know the same thing with Byzantium,
right, Like the story behind the fall

635
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.119
of Byzantium is that h And by
the way, I'm not trying to spark

636
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:09.920
an argument, but when Byzantium fell, it was Uni eight, right,

637
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:13.320
it had already accepted unions. A
lot of times people say, oh,

638
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:15.079
well, Byzante fell was Orthodox.
No, actually it was in communion with

639
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.760
after Florence. Yeah, and then
so what happened, anything about the history,

640
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.079
you could actually teach me this well. But the whole point of this

641
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:30.400
was just that there's this story that
the when the Muslims were right sacking Byzantium,

642
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:36.599
they eventually somebody opened the gates basically, and then the story is that

643
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:42.639
when the sultan or who it was, when he got in, he found

644
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.079
out who had opened the doors,
and they came to him and they were

645
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:47.800
like, uh, we did it, we did it, and then he

646
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:53.239
had him killed and it's like what
well, because his reasoning was, well,

647
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:57.559
if you were a trader to them, yeah, you're you're not trust

648
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:00.360
And the same thing with Stalin two. Right, So like when Stalin came

649
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:05.599
to power, you know, he
eventually had to kind of execute a bunch

650
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:08.679
of underlings around him. And there's
this sort of recurring process of like people

651
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:14.199
think that the ones who you know, are the traders are going to be

652
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:15.800
the ones that are rewarded when they're
the first to go. And so I

653
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:21.719
think that the people who are sort
of the democrats and this, these lunatics

654
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:24.840
that are helping and aiding and trying
to destroy our country, like they don't

655
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:31.000
understand, like they're the Bolsheviks,
get rid of the Menshevik Stalin, get

656
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:37.039
rid of Trotsky. It's never ending. Yeah. Yeah, So Rob and

657
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:40.280
I were talking about like what an
actual civil war might actually look like,

658
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:47.280
because I don't see it being some
geographical North verth South thing anything like that

659
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:52.000
first of civil war in every other
place that has happened, aside from the

660
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:57.639
American Civil War just starts out being
just sectarian violence. Like you just get

661
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:01.760
these outbreaks and terrorist attacks and things
like that, and normal life goes on

662
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:07.239
around it. It's not these all
out battles like we saw in the American

663
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:10.760
Civil War. So, like,
we don't know how that whole thing would

664
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:15.519
break apart Balkans in the nineties more
than it is the US Civil War in

665
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:21.039
the eighteen sixties. Yeah, I
mean, it definitely wouldn't be like the

666
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:24.880
makeup of like, you know,
America's Civil War. I mean, one

667
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:29.239
thing about that movie that probably the
recent people are paying attention to it is

668
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:31.480
that I think people think, well, yeah, it was it was Obama

669
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:37.679
produced, but presumably Obama would know
what the contingency plans would be, right,

670
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:42.079
And the premise of the movie is
that the premise of the movie is

671
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:50.000
that it's a realistic scenario of how
or what would how America would potentially collapse,

672
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:53.159
so and presumably Obama would have some
knowledge of that, I think.

673
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:59.880
And the idea in the movie is
that basically it's just all hell breaks loose

674
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:05.639
thin a week. So you're basically
within one week you have power goes out

675
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:09.119
in certain places. Then you get
the Internet going down, cyber attacks,

676
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:17.760
and then you get these weird e
MP ELF attacks frequency signals right which there

677
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:22.679
are elf EF weapons. We're never
actually told how that's happening in the movie.

678
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:25.800
It just happens. And then you
get the psyops of the flyers that

679
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:29.719
are being dropped, and we find
out in the movie that at first you

680
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:34.639
think it's Iranians or it's Muslims,
and then you get you hear the story

681
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.679
that oh no, actually in other
states they're dropping flyers claiming that it's Korea

682
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:45.199
Chinese or Chinese Koreans, and so
that's all disinformation that the guy, the

683
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:47.639
Black guy explains, what does he
say? He's like, it was a

684
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.920
like plan chaos. He says,
yeah, well, it's the fog of

685
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.920
war where you don't know what the
heck is happening. Basically, you know,

686
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:59.159
you just you don't know. And
then we get the biowarfare thing.

687
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:02.559
Right, So the guy, the
kid gets bitten by a tick, which

688
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:07.599
I think we're supposed to think is
has affected the deer because the deer have

689
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:13.119
some form of chronic wasting disease or
limes disease or something because they're all like

690
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:17.519
mangy and they got deer aids.
Right, it gets bit by a tick

691
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:21.440
and his teeth fall out, so
he's got some kind of it's some bile

692
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:24.639
warfare attack as well, that's going
on, which in the movie it doesn't

693
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:30.599
make any sense because it's just it's
just cured by antibiotics. I mean,

694
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:32.880
they go to Kevin Bacon. They're
like, you have medicine, give it

695
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:40.920
to give us medicine. He's got
some pills. Here's here's some blue pills.

696
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:50.039
Just take gave them viagar. It's
like, yeah, what's funny is

697
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:57.119
preppers really do they they stock up
on antibiotics mental fish because they're completely unregulated.

698
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:02.360
Okay, you can orderbotics on Amazon. Oh and then there was another

699
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:07.599
uh remember the oil tanker. That's
probably the most memorable scene is when the

700
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.800
oil tanker just sort of likes to
a halt to beat, right, and

701
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:15.159
I think that's supposed to Oh so
they're you know, they're bringing America's petro

702
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.920
dollar in the economy to a halt
somehow. So there's some sort of economic

703
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:24.519
oil attack or halting to the economy
through this emp Let's say the satellites have

704
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:29.960
been hacked or something. So it
seems to be like just total chaos is

705
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:31.639
let loose within one week? I
mean, dude, if you really think

706
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:34.800
about it, though, and then
we get a new remember there's a nuke

707
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:37.519
that goes and there was a nuke
in the in the city. But if

708
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:43.119
you really think about it, if
they cut the Internet off alone, not

709
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:45.840
even the power let's just say they
cut the Internet off, you're talking.

710
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:52.960
We are so dependent on Internet at
this point, right, food delivery systems,

711
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.559
You're like, every single thing is
set up on the Internet to be

712
00:52:55.880 --> 00:53:00.239
done through delivery systems that are through
everything on the computer. I mean,

713
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.960
if you could really shut let's say
you even shut the power grid and the

714
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:07.639
computers down, what is it.
I think it's like within a week you'll

715
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:09.840
have people starving. It doesn't even
have to be the Internet. If the

716
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:16.360
acch clearinghouse system goes down that banks
us to transfer money that businesses use to

717
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:21.039
send and receive money. How do
businesses pay each other? You know,

718
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:25.320
like that alone would be a massive
disruption to trade. Well, I did

719
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:29.239
a live stream not too long ago. That's a great point too, by

720
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:31.239
the way, about the ach system. I did live stream a couple of

721
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:37.719
days ago about all the other fiction
stories that were kind of prepping us for

722
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:43.280
not just a dystopian I've done a
million dystopian movie podcasts, but more specifically

723
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:45.960
the dystopian stories about the collapse of
America, right, And that's its own

724
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:52.320
sort of subniche. And in a
lot of those it's like they send us

725
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:54.679
back to eighteen hundreds, right.
So, jj Abrams had a show called

726
00:53:54.719 --> 00:54:00.599
a Revolution that lasted a few seasons
on MBUT. There was Jericho in the

727
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:06.719
midwo I watched all of Jericho.
I watched the season of Jericho. Jeremiah

728
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:09.079
was another one where they oh,
yeah, Jeremiah was remember in Jeremiah at

729
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:12.039
the end, I think at the
end of it it ended up being a

730
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.880
bio release or something that that it
was actually the military did on purpose to

731
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:19.360
depopulate. Yeah, you're right.
At the end of the story they actually

732
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:21.840
say it's like, oh, yeah, we did that to depopulate earth anyway.

733
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:25.960
But what's weird. What's weird is
that there's there's almost a fetishizing of

734
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:31.599
that scenario, right, Like there's
something even with the pandemic. When when

735
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:36.719
the pandemic happens, it was like
a weird excitement that. I mean,

736
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:39.400
I forgot who we were talking to
we're talking about because I'm in New York.

737
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:44.119
Right nine to eleven happens, and
it's like it was just far enough

738
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:46.679
away from me, but I could
be like claim it because I'm in New

739
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:50.400
York. It's like, oh,
I could claim I'm part of this tragedy.

740
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:53.800
But like nobody and I know died
like like cousins or cousins, cousins

741
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:59.199
but not like a father or a
sister. So like when tragedy hits like

742
00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:04.519
sort of close to home, it's
like something exciting about it. To an

743
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:08.880
Italian, nobody is a cousin.
Like to me, it's kind of close

744
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:12.960
to yours. I just we're all
cousins over here. But no, but

745
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:16.960
just there's something about being a human
that when when an emergency hits, there's

746
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:22.920
something exciting about it, which is
why we all like these apocalyptic movies and

747
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:27.400
storylines and stuff. It's weird.
Yeah, it's a there's a sensationalism to

748
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:31.119
it, and I think people can
maybe there's this an in a sense that

749
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:36.639
a lot of us have that we
know our society is going in the wrong

750
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:39.360
direction and it can't continue forever,
right, Like, we can't continue to

751
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:45.760
completely condone every form of degeneracy.
We can't continue to you know, have

752
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:49.960
open abortions like we do. I
mean, something is going to end this

753
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.119
in some way. And at a
certain point. God is not a good

754
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:57.079
father if he doesn't punish his children
right like we have. We have gotten

755
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:00.519
so out of control with those specific
things that you're talking about, right with

756
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:06.199
just the moral degeneracy that I mean, even if he doesn't do anything,

757
00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:08.039
we will do it to ourselves like
him, just because really, if you

758
00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:15.239
understand what God's talking about with his
wrath versus his versus mercy, like God's

759
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:19.599
wrath is not punishment. God's wrath
is oh, I'm going to give you

760
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:23.519
up to your own desires and let
you do what you want and not in

761
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:28.320
Romans one, right, right,
exactly right. So what God's wrath is

762
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:29.760
like, oh, yeah, that's
what you want, Go ahead, you

763
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:32.400
can have it. I'm not even
gonna Mercy is a punishment, right.

764
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:39.719
One of the minor prophets talks about
even sterility being itself the punishment, right,

765
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:45.440
So using this to be sterile is
the punishment itself, because you're basically

766
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:50.519
ensuring that you won't go into the
future. Right. Yeah, Yeah,

767
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:52.079
it's it's weird, man. I
think I think all of us have this

768
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:57.320
weird sense. That's I mean,
Pego talks about it all the time time.

769
00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.360
I love Peget because he always talks
about like that. You can since

770
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:04.159
you're coming to the end of the
story, because you start seeing these patterns

771
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:07.079
better way of saying what I was
trying to say exactly, Yeah, you

772
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:10.360
start seeing these patterns popping up at
the end of it. So so that

773
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:14.440
may not mean we're coming to the
end of the world, but we're coming

774
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:17.760
to the end of something very soon. Well, there's a world order as

775
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:23.360
it's been might be, and I
think it's very likely that you could see

776
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:28.880
what the globally called catalyzing events.
Right. They're always talking about in their

777
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:32.719
books, the next crisis, Right, we have a crisis of overpopulation.

778
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:38.039
There's a crisis of uh using oil
and fossil fuels, right, which I

779
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:43.119
don't even think that oil is.
It's not dinosaur bones. I don't know

780
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:45.599
what oil is, but I don't
believe it's dinosaur juice ground up. Probably

781
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:51.280
a natural resources going to run it. You know, Earth makes somehow,

782
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:54.719
I mean, but yeah, so, but but they the and that that's

783
00:57:54.719 --> 00:58:00.440
all tied up with this idea that
it can't possibly be dinosaur bones was only

784
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:05.360
here for four thousand years ago?
Are they talking about it's a dinosaurs Like

785
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:08.320
Earth is like a big blender that
like it blends up the dinosaurs in the

786
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:14.480
middle. It's out like closs fuels, oil. Get out of you,

787
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:17.960
Madiaggs. I was gonna say,
I think it's the end of the world.

788
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:22.760
You know, obviously new testaments clear
that we're not told that, but

789
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:27.800
uh, you know, it could
be the end of our you know,

790
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:35.400
civilization. That's certainly possible. I
think there's so much desire for those types

791
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:37.679
of like like you were saying,
apocalyptic stories, because I think so many

792
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:43.519
of us have an innate feeling that
the majority of our lives are are unfulfilling.

793
00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:45.719
Like obviously, like the fulfilling.
You know, I have fulfilling parts

794
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:47.960
of my life, like my faith, my children, things like that,

795
00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:52.679
but like I provide for my family
by doing a fake job. You know,

796
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:55.320
I don't go out and make something
with my hands. I work on

797
00:58:55.400 --> 00:59:02.440
a computer with you know, numbers
like tronically. That's not actually physically providing.

798
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:06.559
It's unfulfilling. And I think a
lot of us have that sense,

799
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:13.119
and we we realize that if we're
brought back to this earlier age and suddenly

800
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:17.239
life means more. Yeah. People
have had good points about that too,

801
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:22.719
which is like, uh, all
the feminism is gonna go away because if

802
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.440
we if we go to like an
eighteen hundred's Mad Max scenario, like,

803
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:30.280
your feminism is going to mean absolutely
nothing. Right, You're going to be

804
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:32.800
looking to the nearest strong man to
help you out when there's a bunch of

805
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:37.039
when there's when we're in a road
road warrior scenario with biker gangs run around

806
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:42.559
everywhere. Yeah, what about Furio
mad Max? Yeah, I was gonna

807
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:45.440
say, oh furiosa, Right,
the feminist charlist their own is going to

808
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:47.760
take care of you. No,
it's going to be more like humongous and

809
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:54.880
road Warrior part two right where it's
like micro gangs of like BDSM weirdos or

810
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like they really have come with I
want to bring peace. Remember when Humongous

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is giving the like he's at the
gates of the city and he's like he's

812
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:10.320
got he's like this giant oh Man. Road Warrior is great. It's so

813
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:15.159
there's a city where they try to
rebuild and they're they're making oil, right,

814
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:17.920
they have an oil thing, and
and it's all this big biker gang

815
01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:23.960
run by Humongous who's this this giant
buff dude and his gang of like Skittles

816
01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:30.119
guys. And he's like he's got
this uh you know, megaphone like outside

817
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:36.039
the city and he's like, I
want to be a friend. Let's have

818
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:39.000
peace. We've been fighting and all
he wants is to do butt stuff.

819
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:45.800
Basically, he's like, open the
gates and let me do. You should

820
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:49.880
watch we're going into Road Warrior.
That's not I'm trying to say. I'm

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01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:52.559
not going to do you any good. What's your favorite apocalyptic movie? Like,

822
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:58.119
I think The Road Is is okay, but the Book of Eli was

823
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:00.280
good. Elis a good end of
the war a movie, Yeah, it

824
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:02.679
is. It's got a kind of
a Christian theme. Bok could be a

825
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:06.840
less good for that. It's very
Protestant though, right, it's just about

826
01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:15.199
the Bible of everything. He had
to memorize the k really. I like

827
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:21.159
Twelve Monkeys is good. I love
twelve Monkeys, man, I haven't seen

828
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:23.159
that in so long. It's good. I did a podcast on that.

829
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:28.039
I like all the you know,
road Warriors. Obviously the last one is

830
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:32.800
super feminist, but I like the
well thunder Dome is one. Probably my

831
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:37.519
favorite. Thunder Dome is great.
Oh man, Jake, thank you for

832
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:40.280
coming on. Dude. You're always
fun to talk to me. You're knowledgeable

833
01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:44.280
on this stuff. You came on
like I literally texted you like two days

834
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:45.440
ago. I was like, you're
busy this week like any day, man,

835
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:49.519
just let me know sure it has
a great job. Thanks me.

836
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:52.639
Rob and I are gonna take take
take our crew over to locals and we're

837
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:57.320
going to get into this Francis stuff
and after we dissect it, maybe me

838
01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:00.559
and you will talk offline a little
and I'll give you my my thoughts on

839
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:02.199
it. Jay, thank you so
much. Man. You're You're always a

840
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:05.159
blasted talk to brother. All right, man, you guys have a good

841
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:08.719
night. Oh you got anything to
promote? Just following me on my channels

842
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:13.559
if you want to, you can
get my books and my website and the

843
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.480
shop, although right now my shop
is under construction, so you might have

844
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:19.320
to wait a couple of days if
you want to. I got a couple

845
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:22.480
of books on movies and symbolism,
and that's start Hollywood wanted to. And

846
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:25.920
if you get those from the website, sign copies. So that's what that's

847
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:29.159
all. I got. Some of
my favorite stuff on your channel is like

848
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:32.800
when you'll break down, like you'll
break things down, like you'll you'll break

849
01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:37.079
down a Jordan Peterson thing and you
get into it. I've watched a lot

850
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:39.360
of your stuff, man, I
really do enjoy your channel, Jay.

851
01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:45.039
So you guys go check out Jay
on YouTube, follow them on Instagram.

852
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:47.480
He's Jay Underscore double O seven or
something right. Yeah, And by the

853
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:52.239
way, uh, movie wise,
Tristan and I are gonna break down ex

854
01:02:52.400 --> 01:03:00.519
Mashina because now they're rolling out the
push for sex bots and AI friends,

855
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:05.840
so we're gonna be looking at the
predictive programming in that movie from twenty fourteen

856
01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:08.880
X Mahina. It's a good movie, too, good movie. All right,

857
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:12.760
everybody that everybody else follows over to
locals. Rob and I are going

858
01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:16.760
to get into breaking down this latest
fun, fun, fun fun document that

859
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:21.199
the Vatican just release. And I
have some original thoughts that you guys probably

860
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:22.599
haven't heard from everybody else. So
all right, we'll see you guys on

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01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:25.320
Thursday with Nick Cabazos. Audios guys,