Have a dollar same to you. I'll take our notes. Bulls Grampa,
no grum pass. If the bull dice, the crowd goes wild. If
grumpa dice, the crowd goes wild. Either way, we make a fortune
on souvenir sun snacks. Can we bring outside food? Not even gum?
Four finger discount dude, Welcome to four figure Discount, the podcast where we
all have meltmania. This week we are Hitter review episode jb F zero nine.
It is million dollars ab I am edo, I am guy and hmm,
what to say about this episode? Well, I was trying to be
enthusiastic because no, this episode was morbid and sad and depressing. I watched
this episode and I watched it twice, as I usually do. The first
time I watched it, I was like, yeah, Grandpa episode, it's
a story, blah blah blah. And I rewatched it and I was like,
doesn't really make a whole lot of sense the story and the topic that
you've got. You haven't really handed it very well. You know, the
issue of euthanasia should mean more than just be sort of like a subplot for
what eventually becomes Grandpa becoming mad at all. This is so weird and sad
and depressing, and I've got here. Grandpa tries to kill himself because nobody
apparently loves him. Right then we see him kill or when it seemed,
but he kills the ball. When that happened, I was like, wait,
he actually killed the bull. I could not believe it. I was
like, what, Yeah. I think we've been trained by particular TV shows
and movies or whatever. When you have a moment like that and someone goes,
oh, yeah, makes the big stamp thinking about it, does the
does the shot or whatever, it's usually like I could have killed you,
but it didn't, you know, because I'm the better man, or because
I've learned the lesson or something. I was like, Oh, no,
actually happened. Kill that killed that ball? M Yeah. Tackling topics like
euthan asia or a sister dying or and animal cruelty, I mean, and
blood sports and things like, it's like, I think you need to think
it through a lot more and I think you need to handle a lot more
sensitively than you did in this particular episode. I keep going back when I
think of when I think a Grandpa Simpson, when I think of Abe Simpson
an episode sort of arounding him. I mean, the one that always leaves
to mind is no, we've talked about the last and I keep remember getting
the actual tie of the episode, the one that ends with him getting the
inheritance and refurbishing the Springfield retirement Castle, so it's a decent place for elderly
people to see out their days and live there last years with that great final
line of bad dignities on me And I mean, that's a sad episode,
but it's also quite touching and it touches on some important issues, but it
also has its share of gags in there as well. It shows that it's
not impossible for a series like this to handle issues like those very very well,
and this episode sort of does in the opposite of that. It's just
not good at all. It's just what's disappointing for me is that it is
such a serious issue that could have been if it was handled correctly, explored
properly, it wouldn't have felt so annoying. But it's just this this topic
of yourthanations sort of part of this mess of an episode, Like, for
example, had the law not changed just before Grandpa was about to die,
Grandpa literally would have been dead and the family wouldn't have even known or cared.
And then we're supposed to believe the Lisa story, which she's like,
I've always believed in your grandpa, And I'm like, well, where were
you when he fucking needed you? Yeah. I was about to say this
is meant to be a touching moment and like, I've never really felt that
strongly connection between these two characters, though, don't expect me going to buy
in now. So I'm like, what I do is I'll watch these episodes
and I go set aside thirty seconds hit that time and try to come up
with a better story. I'm not saying this is better. This is all
I come up with, right, this is my thirty second thing. If
you just put us like thirty seconds, guys and fucking think about it,
you could have gotten something out of it. So I've just got you could
have had Lisa go to visit him, right, because she sees that everyone's
bad down on Grandpa. Could have heard Homer in Marge say something bad about
him, and she goes, oh, he probably needs somebody. She goes
to visit him, he's not there. She finds the card for the euth
and Asia place on this desk. She races to stop him, she stops
him, and then we get sort of like a healthish episode where it's like
Bart and Grandpa working together, but it's Lisa and Grandpa working together to solve
something right. That could be a nice story. Instead it's like no one
loved him, no one visited him, no one called him, so he
tried to kill himself. Any reason he didn't die is because the law changed.
And then he goes to see them and that it's like, what are
you doing here? What I don't know? And then later on the episode
was supposed to believe that, Lisa's like, I've always believed in you.
Now you're not helping me, and I'm like, you weren't there for him.
That was the whole reason he wanted to die. You've nailed it,
you really. I mean, this is just shodly constructed all the way through.
I mean even by the first half, before any of the assistance who
was or or mattad or stuff comes into it, it's kind of like just
just tonally and in terms of the jokes and the characterizations all that, there's
two there's two jokes in this episode and can I just point them out?
First, one having to tell your relative that you love them despite the fact
that they're gay. That's apparently a joke. And then the other joke is
ha ha, Lenny, you've got down syndrome. Ha ha. Why wait,
so the joke is that Lenny has down syndrome. That's that's your joke.
Well, he's missunder yeah, I mean he's caught up in meltdown mania
clearly, and you know he and Lenny, he and Carl, you know,
doing their tag team thing like I've got melt mania, I've got down
syndrome. I was like, oh, wait a minute, I should have
thought that, yeah, even him just saying oh I realized I just said,
oh you know him sorry yeah, or just yeah. Season seventeen syentims
would have said, oh, I should have thought that through, or just
or just don't do it or just don't do it. Well, that's the
other thing. It's also not not that funny. Let's go. It adds
nothing to this episode. Like, I don't know, just I feel like
having having down syndrome be any form of a punchline in any way, whether
it's putting down people, dancing down or not. I don't know. Maybe
I'm specting. Obviously I don't have it, but I've got relatives who have,
and I just watched that, going, does that really need to be
a joke in a Symptons episode? I don't know. Maybe I'm just touchy
about it, but I just I was. I watched that and went,
I don't know about that one. I don't know about that one. Mister
Tim Long not a huge fan. Yeah, look, I didn't like it,
but I can understand how you could sort of make it work. So
it's a joke on Lenny, if you know what I mean. But if
people just say, for example, there's an eight year old out there watching
this episode and they see that, what would the eight year old think?
That's a good point. This is a fucking kids show. Kids kids don't
think that literally about the jokes. I know it's jokes for adults as well,
but the jokes that are distasteful in that sense shouldn't require you to have
to think about to understand it, because kids can't do that. So a
kid watching this who has Down syndrome would would feel bad watching this? Well,
yeah, I mean they would may well pick up that they feel like
they're the butt of the joke, which exactly, Yeah, so keep the
joke, keep the layer jokes the things that aren't going to be seeing or
could potentially upset the younger viewers. Maybe I'm just being touchy about it.
I don't know, but I just joke annoyed me. I'm gonna I'm gonna
give Tim Long and the Writer's room in the benefit of the doubt in this
regard. But at the same time, I think it was poorly executed.
I don't I don't think it was bad in in concept. I think it
was poorly executed. But then I don't know if I can forgive Tim Long
on the writers room for a lot of stuff in this episode, because it
just felt like an autopilot, or to use modern analogy, it felt ai
It's like, this is this is what would happen in a Simpsons episode,
this is what these particular characters would say. Let's feed all the scripts in
and see what it spits out in this particular scenario. And yeah, it
just felt I hate to keep going back over the same, you know,
the same things when we talk about season seventeen, But I mean, it
felt like it lacked heart and instead was just being a real sort of wise
guy or a real wise ass in terms of its jokes. It's like,
yeah, it's like it's yeah, like you're funny made whose jokes are just
really the expense of everybody else. Hey, that's me. But well,
for example, we'll bring up South Park right. When they take on issues
like euthan Asian and things like that, you can usually get a sense of
what Trayer might really think about the issue. But they do a really good
way of showing it from both perspectives as well, making both showing the pros
and kinds of both sides of the argument. Well, in this one here
you come out of it and you're like, so, what do the Simpsons
right to think about euthanasia? Or did you just think it would just be
a funny thing to just talk about if it's for ten minutes in a twenty
minute episode, you know, yeah, Or it's a way to get it's
a way to lead to Grandpa becoming a matter matter door. Yeah, it's
like, what are the circumstances would yeah, that would make Grandpa Simpson get
into a ring with a bull. He's got a new lease on life?
Why is he got a new lease on life? Because he tried to kill
him. Why did you try to kill himself? Because this happen, we
need we need one single solitary person to be the bullfighter. I'll be the
matta door. Grandpa will do it. And it's like what what what?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that if you went to a bullfight in Spain or
Mexico or wherever, there's usually wall more than one bullfight per day, so
usually one more than more than one matter do all the day. I don't
know, never been to a bullfight. Is there's just one fight per day
or all these towns that people go for one fight and then it's over and
then because it lasts like thirty seconds. And the other argument is and you
can hide behind the whole while they're springfield and they're dumb. Right, that's
fine, you're going to hide behind that lazy argument. Go for it.
But why did they build the stadium before they had it signed off? Why
was the stadium built before the commissioners signed to the contract. I think they
might have actual precedence in real life. I don't think you would pump millions
of taxpayers money into a stadium if you hadn't had a contract signed saying that
it's going to be used. Look, I'm probably completely wrong here, but
doesn't get the feeling that there have been certain Yeah, they have a course,
of course, taken a few steps forward and exaggerated for comic effect in
this game. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. The whole thing
also about really sinking the boots into Springfield. I mean that whole Springfield Blows
song. I don't know, I don't know. I didn't even know what
to make of that. My argument to that, right thing is so as
company goes, it's come down to La and Springfield, because Ala sent in
this really great video, right, And the whole point of ALA's video is
don't choose Springfield, choose us. But how do they know it's going to
come down to those two while start making the video? The whole video was
the reason it got down to those two. Good A good nitpick there.
The whole point you chose Ala and spring was like Ala said this great video
and check it out, and the video is about how it's down to those
two. But how did Ala know it was down to those two? Yeah,
I mean, I know You've got to have a throwaway line in there
somewhere about la having a spy in the office or something. I don't know,
but and I'm just I've just gotten my notes. You compare this song
right to getting game with kids, like the South Park songs, you know,
compared to what this is. I was like this, like and Simpsons
songs are usually pretty good, usually pretty catchy. Yeah, and the Simpson
songs are like, they're usually awesome, but this one, I'm just like,
this went on and on and fucking on. It just went on.
Yeah. So just um, a lot of things just wrong with this episode.
I mean from the side show Mel camera, they're bad to begin with,
but then this is the thing. They've got a checklist now for season
seventeen. It's homophobic joke, Sacho Mel says something loud. That's every episode,
every episode. But even then it's like and he's like, oh,
Sacho Mel speaks like this, so he must be kind of raday. It's
an elegant or whatever. It's like, isn't your mother a common hoole?
It's like, whoa, I feel myself feeling like a broken record here in
terms of like this is a bit like family guy, Oh, you've taken
that out of the seth McFarland playbook. Now, you know, all do
you respect to Seth McFarland, who's you know, managed to create a little
comedy empire out of his particular brand of whimsy. But also he's the worst
fucking thing that's happened to when animation and a lot of it, but he
made it. He made a thing. Like what he did was he goes,
all right, what's the most popular show animated show at the time?
It was South Park, but also Simpsons. Right, everyone was talking about
the Simpsons. All right, if we're going to compete with the Simpsons,
we need to be the opposite of the Simpsons. So they did what south
Park. They did what Simpsons weren't doing. But then they sort of getting
They started gaining some some um steam and gaining some traction, and Simpsons were
like, oh, maybe we need to be more like them. It's like
no, no, no, no, no, no, stay not learn.
But they're the old they're the alternative. Keep doing what you're doing,
don't take the exit, keeps stay on the highway. So yeah, I
mean between that kind of sideshow mel joke or yeah, the angry textan who
quite frankly, he's starting to reach sideshow mel levels of wearing out his welcome.
What else is in there that sucks? I don't know, pretty much
everything just a very frustrating, disappointing, piss poor kind of episode. Million
dollars abe. As far as I'm concerned, I didn't mind the youth and
Asia story. I was like, this is a topic that I've never seen
a Simpsons take on before. But that's just the way. It just became
such a throwaway part of the story by the end of it. The youth
and Asia wasn't even discussed, just like like, oh, you know,
he's got a new lease on life and he's gonna live life to his force,
so he's gonna be a mad at or it's like, but is he
doing itally he's got a new lease on life? Or was he doing it
because he doesn't care about life anymore. He just wants to die and being
mat like, what's what's the what's your story here? It's just what is
your story? Does you want to live or not want to live? Yeah,
explain that. You know, I've got a new lease of laugh,
so I'm going to do all the things I never did, or you know,
I'm starting to feel depressing it I need to risk death to feel life
again. So he starts doing more and more risky shit, and this is
the apex of that. It's like I'm getting getting in the ring with a
bull, even though an old man who probably has got shit reflexes and came
over. That could have been like part of a montage or something, just
something throw away and jumping down a plane or whatever. Yeah, or if
we're gonna do like a euthanasia episode, this may feel a bit like cheating.
But have someone else from the retirement castle feel like, oh, I
don't want to live anymore. I've heard about this guy you know who brought
in the card, wasn't Jasper? Old Jewish guy. Old Jewish guy,
have that character who's not unfamiliar to the viewers of the shows. And I've
had enough of this, you know, I mean, give them a little
bit of a side. Plus, I don't have any relatives life, I
get it. Why am I even here? And have them explore the idea
of like it's time for me to check out, and it gets Grandpa thinking
about it to some degree, or Grandpa says, no, there's more to
it than this. You can you can. Let's let's let's do a piss
take on the bucket list. Grandpa could walk in and find the card or
something and Grandpa's whan it stops and then he get Grandpa helping your Jewish guide
go and do things that he wants to take off his bucket list. You
know what I mean? Yeah, I mean I think this episode. Okay,
when when did the bucket List come out? I think this episode predates
the bucket List? But we're two dozen six shook the bucket list. I
think bucket list is like twenty tens or something. Oh that like, okay,
let's have a look the bucke List two thousand and seven. Oh okay,
yeah, so it wasn't far off far off. The script, the
script for the buckle lists were probably circulating around Hollywood at that stage. You
could have ripped it off. Hey, hey, hey, the bucket List
directed by Simpsons episode guest are Rob Ryner. What the hell? Man?
Yeah, he knew about it, he knew, he knew, and he
let it happen. Fuck you, Rob Wrider. Oh man. But this
is the thing, right, this is the thing. Like I said,
I sweared anything. I set the thirty second timer, and I came up
with something that is phar more logical, and more enjoyable, and what leaves
you feeling like shit than what was delivered here. I just don't understand how
what was so important about Grandpa being a matter or did you just see the
design of the character and go that's going to be so funny. I just
don't understand. And Lisa's at the front and at the end when all the
bulls run out and Lisa's goes Grandpama rust set them free? Like, what
made you come to that conclusion? Why would you think Grandpa was the one
to set them free? Grandpa was the one that was killing them before.
What is happening? What is happening? Indeed my favorite? Did you have
any favorite moments from this episode, mister Davis? Okay, shocker, I
had a few another originally really relate to the episode. I just think it's
very important though, that we we criticize things when they need to be criticize,
but also we'll highlight, we'll find positives as well, but when something
doesn't make sense, it will be pointed out because it's just ridiculous that,
yeah, when something is off key, yeah you're gonna let them know.
Because I'm passionate about the Simpsons. You know, I grew up the Simpsons.
I love the Simpson I want the Simpsons to be the best. I
want the episodes that we reviewed to be enjoyable. But when you're delivering this
stuff, it's like, no, what are you doing? Okays? Yeah,
I love the Simpsons. I want them to be better. That's why
I get so angry when this kind of stuff happens. But what did you
enjoy? Simpsons? What I like from this episode? I'm an r M
fan from way back? Yeah, so if you if you play I Am
Superman, um, Yeah, that's from I think it might be from Green.
It's a it's a great yeah it is. Yeah, and then nobody
loves you John Lennon. So I got both their favorites there. Everybody's happy.
Ah, So yeah, quite happy with that. Another thing I'm fan
of is dour, downbeat nineteen seventies science fiction movies. So if you have
a prolonged tribute to soilond Green, as this episode did, where Grandpa ends
up in the suicide room, where hey, we're going to play a certain
kind of music and we're going to show you footage from there from the good
old days, Okay, that's all right by me. It's a nice twist
in Soiland Green of character goes into such a room. They play some lovely
classical music and it's a really shihouse future and they get to show him all
this lovely nature. But it's like, well, this is really illuminating the
message of this movie, and you know, making me feel a tear or
dope. My Grandpa Simpsons, the Glenn Miller and what hippies get beaten up
and I literally have mines. Guy will appreciate this. Guy did appreciate that.
And also another one third thing I'm a fan of is wordplay. So
I liked when outside the public meeting had said come for the agenda, stay
for the adenda. I really liked the battery dead and an assistant dead on
the commssioner's phone, and the Blackbrie. Well those things they died a quick
death, didn't they. Blacky. There's a movie out now. If you're
it's not in cinemas in Australia at the moment, but if you've got a
the PN or no scruples, yeah that's correct, called BlackBerry. And it's
a bit like because there are all these movies out at the moment about here's
how they tetris and he's how they did you know he's at the Great the
Air George. How many people and how long do you reckon know are paid
to come up with that title? How how long were their brainstorming in the
room coming up with the title for that movie? And how much do you
reckon it cost a movie company to pay these people to come up with that
name. But apparently this one's not bad. I haven't seen it yet,
but it's about the making of the BlackBerry. I always like those movies.
I mean, I really people a few of my friends had they had it,
but I'd like, for example, the Steve Jobs movie and things I
find Steve Jobs movie is fucking great. Yeah, I'm going to the mat
for that one. That's awesome. Way the way he created the iPod,
it's just like an amazing story. Amazing, absolutely it is. Yeah.
Oh look, there's a lot to be said about about these movies and the
way they're told as well. I mean, i'd seen I've seen Air at
the cinema and we get it for the Four Fingered Scan Network. It did
into the Spider Verse sequel review. Let me show you something just real quick.
This is guys to do list for the weekend. Everything is crossed off
except record movie reviews of Spider Verse and john Wick four. So make that
happen, pase, So I'll do that tonight. I am sorry about that.
But just above that was spend time with Girlfriend is the title from what
You've Taught Me? John Wick Snore, john Wick Moore, john Wick Please
anymore? Uh yeah, But I mean I rewatched Air yeah, just the
other weekend because it was like, because you're a pirate that No, No,
it's actually on Prime Video now, Oh shit, did you pay for
us? It just for free to watch? Yeah, it's free. I
mean that's what it was. It was bought by Amazon initially, Oh wow.
And then they're like, oh, we'll throw it in cinemas for a
few weeks and see we can make a little cash off it. But then
we'll put it on put it on Prime And you know, I was down
at my sister's plays and I was like, oh, I don't want to
think too much. I don't know if I've got enough energy to devote to
something new. It was like er will do? And I rewatched it.
I was like, yeah, this is really good. And I think Affleck's
really smart in terms of like making just movies that are default movies for a
Sunday night. But it's like, I don't want to think I trust these
guys. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm Blackberries apparently in that vein about you
know, the making of the BlackBerry, how do we get the BlackBerry?
Because these BlackBerry died assistant dad correct, Oh man, sorry, I've really
got to get more discipline when it comes to these dumber side tracks. Oh
that's fun. The other thing really liked, there's nothing to do with the
actual episode. I really liked the chalk gag. Did you see the chalk
gag? The upside down chalk gag? Yeah? I was like, that's
how has it not been done before? I was very creative. I liked
it. Yeah, I thought I got a big kick out the chalk gat
when I says somebout the episode on. One of my favorite moments is the
chalkboard gag, which is usually some of them, some of them good,
some not so much. This one not too bad. Next question, you
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Davis, it's time now for some trivia. So what is your first question?
My first question is how many slot machines are there on the Las Vegas
trash barge? Oh shit, is it a lot? No, I'm gonna
say seven. I'm gonna give you the correct anto, which is two two.
Okay, I thought, like, what's a casino number? Seven?
Yes? My first question is what are the three forms of death available at
the euthan Asia? Say, no, damn it. There's peaceful death,
instant, slow and painful, and megadeath. I knew there was megadeath.
That was the one thing I did remember which was like, it's okay,
I guess, um, what is doctor Egoyan's phone number? I didn't write
it down? What was it? It client two two two two two two
two. No, it is five five five zero three six two okay six
two alright. My next one is who is sponsoring the bull fight at the
end? Oh damn it, um, it's Taco Pronto. Taco pronto.
speF your taco ponto. Yes, if when you don't want to wait twenty
minutes for a daco, no taco pronto, ta pronto. I'm pretty sure
he was the commentated from the soccer game that time, the one who was
like overenthusiastic about it much happening at all? Ye, speaking of soccer,
I don't I don't know who won the games pot football for all you know
UK lists. Of course we call it soccer here in Australia. But on
paramount plus they had the final between Man City and Man United I think,
and like someone scored a goal and with like the first player of the game,
like the first ten seconds or whatever. I was like, what's happened?
What the good names happened to soccer? You know what I mean?
You sure? You want? You sure? You weren't watching ted LASSA maybe,
but yeah, it's literally if the patterns like the quickest score ever in
history or something for Grand Final Final, they do it quick down in Manchester
they do indeed. All right, what's your next one? My third and
final question for you is, um, where did Mire Quimby meet Lloyd Bridges?
Oh? Yeah? Was that an airport? It was an airport in
Atlanta? What what? No? I wasn't hearts Field? Hearts Field?
All right? And my final question is Luigi's is closed on which day of
the week. Oh, it's the day of the week that most fish and
chip shops are closed in Geelong. So Monday, Monday. Yeah. And
someone told me this story once and I don't know if it's true, And
you know, I did this quite often. Like someone told me this and
it sounds true and I've run with it forever. It's that Monday's is the
day and wish in which all the shops go to the fish market to pick
up their fish, fresh fish for the week. I'm like, that is
believable. I'm going to accept that as a true answer. I'm going to
run with it for the rest of my life. But it is Monday just
not a day the people eat fish and chips Like, it's always just Monday.
Fish and chip shops are closed on a Monday. I'm like, there's
gonna be a reason that every single fish and chip shop is closed on a
Monday. And the logical answer is that's when they're going buy their stock.
I'm like it kind of makes sense. But why you would have to be
closed to buy your stock, I don't know. But every Monday, the
fucking fish and chip shops are closed. It's weird. Is it light that
anywhere else or is it just a geelong thing? Well? What day of
the way in the UK listeners in particular, is there a day of the
week in which fish and chip shops are closed? Because you know, fish
and chips is fish and chips is like the big thing in the UK's it's
their meal. And what is the fish and chip day? Like what you
can in the show used to be the Sunday night thing, wasn't it?
Fish and chips very from Sunday Sunday roast. Yeah, growing up in the
Catholic house, I'll be you have fish on a Friday and yeah, sometimes
you wouldn't feel like cooking fish, so you get fish and chips, but
also from air. For me, particularly my late teens and early twenties,
it's like Sunday night as fish and chips night. I'd be like, I've
got a bit of a hangover and eat something greasy to sort of, you
know, ease me into the week. I'm gonna squeeze some sauce on the
paper. Oh yeah, absolutely, um so it's a piece of flake minimum
chips too, dimmies. Stop off at the seven eleven on the way,
grab a big bottle of water and a pack of Marlboro lights. Come come
home and watch Beverly Hills nine two on the day of Special listeners. You
should have seen the hier glee of guide has revenucing then good time. It's
great classing kids. So Sunday night was your that was your nine two and
o night? Was it that? That's what was on that night? For
me? That was New Simpsons eventually became the Wednesday night in Australia, but
when I was a kid, New Simpsons was Sunday night, and it was
like and Dad would always own the TV on a Sunday night because we wanted
to watch whatever was on Sunday Night. Becau Sunday night. They had the
important stuff on it right, so Dad would have the big TV and we'd
be in mum and Dad's room watching new Simpsons on out on my dad's bed.
I never one of my most vivid memories of watching The Simpsons as a
kid, it's being in mum and Dad's room when the new episode of Who
Shot Mister Burns? Part two was airing for the first time, and my
sister Stacy and I had spent like all fucking the summer or whatever it was,
or the winter, whatever it's in Australia trying to work out who shot
mister Burns. We had a little notepads and we'd written down things and I
thought, I thought Smith's the obvious one, and we had it set in
stone. I'll never forget. My dad walks in. He's like, you
can watching Simpsons out there if you won no show. He's finished, but
okay, and it's like, we find it. We're gonna find it.
Who shops to Burns? Day goes? They said on the radio the baby
did it? And I was like, Nady, why oh man. That's
one of my first experience of a proper spoiler. It was so important to
me that episode and the heartbreak of knowing who it was. I was so
sad. But they said on the radio, that's already been on. We're
like, no, it hasn't. He's like, yeah, they said on
the radio, the baby did it? Oh oh man man, And we
thought he was. And it was so illogical that we just assumed he must
have been. Were like maybe, because then when he realized he spoiled it,
he was like, well, I'm just bullshit. It's it's not the
baby. So we're like, gonna be the baby? Is he telling the
truth? I was, Oh, maybe it is that it is Smith's.
For that little period, I was so sad. But yeah, can you
remember your first spoiler when he was when something got spoiled for you that you
were so excited for. Whether it was like so sabotage, we're going on
social media or something like that, but can you remember a spoiler. That's
a really good point because I mean I've done it numerous times for wrestling events
where I've driven and waited all day to not watch or gone social media and
then you know, he just But now it's just nature to bring your phone
out of your pocket and you go on Facebook or whatever, And the first
thing that pops up is the results, like so and so won the title,
and I'm like, you fool, Well, it's thinking like I didn't.
I didn't even put my phone out to go on Facebook. My brain
just did it. It was so used to doing it now I've done it
so many times. Stuff sabotage. But can you remember the first spoiler for
you? It's literally going it happened a bit later than this than your spoiler,
because I mean I was never really really concerned about it, and I
can't recall all that many That sort of meant a great deal to me.
I mean, I was lucky that I went into Empire Strikes Back and didn't
know that that must have been so awesome. That was pretty rad. It
was to experience that with so many people at the same time would have been
such a cool experience. But here's the thing. Empire Strikes Back, I
think started during school holidays and my birthday corresponded with it and didn't start in
Geelong. But Dad drove me and my best friend JP up to Melbourne,
so we got like the first screening on the Thursday that had opened, and
we went to Hoyt Smid City in Berke Street. And I don't know,
maybe Star Wars wasn't that big a deal for some people, but we were
like it was a huge cinema. It felt huge to us because we were
a little kids. We're ten or eleven, yeah, eleven years old,
and we were like the cinema. There was maybe like five or six people
in the cinema. But yeah, well that was the first screaming, first
screening, and yeah, I think I'm pretty sure. My uncle Darren,
he would have been fourteen, fourteen thirteen when the first movie came out,
and he says it was just huge, like Star Wars just absorbed his life.
Like, oh, he said Star Wars was massive, you know it
really was. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it doesn't make sense,
but I'm pretty sure that's how I recall it. Anyway. I recall because
I bought a little Yoda action figure in the foyer. I think you've talked
about this, and then I lost it in the cinema, lost it,
yeah, and I was like, what the hell that that was a spoiler
that spoiled ship for me, the first real spoiler I remember. It was
actually like the sixth sense. I got to experience that with Nikola, and
she didn't. In the end, I got to see her see her response
that, yeah, that was pretty cool. But yeah, so you knew
about that going and that's a shame. That's such a cool. Yeah,
because everyone was sort of talking about these early days of the internet, people
are talking about, well, just you know, you should know there's something
to happen, there's a twist, and I'm like, oh, that sounds
interesting. Okay, well, I don't really want to know about that.
And then I was reading a related article. It wasn't a review of the
movie or anything like that, but someone mentioned, oh, by the way,
it's like we all know the spoiler for the sixth sense by now.
Yeah. Yeah, but it's like, oh, okay, well that's m
I mean. Then I still saw the movie, and I was still appreciated
the movie, I thought, but knowing that I was watching going okay,
oh, it's like it's like you watched the film. Everybody watched it for
the second time pretty much. Yeah. I mean, I imagine I would
have got at the end like everyone else. Though. My favorite twist that
I remember being in the movies where everyone was just fucking gobsmacked and like no
one saw it coming was sore. Oh, like Saw one. I won't
spoil it for people know it. I won't. I won't spoil it just
in case, you know, just in case someone that they wants to watch
it one day. I know what it's like. But when that happens at
the very end, remember everyone seen him, it was gone, oh fuck,
look it's so obvious. How do we not see that? And it
was just it was really cool. Yeah, and it's just sort of stuck
with me. But I just yeah, this is yeah, this isn't so
much a spoiler, but I do recall a twist like where I actually went
like a crowded cinema. It was total recal. I'm pretty sure I talked
about it, you know, yeah, don't let's say the actual spoiler.
But yeah, no, this isn't even an actual spoiler. But it's more
like, um, it's a development where you know, the guy comes in
and says, oh, you think you're having this adventure of Mars, but
guess what, you're still in the chairback at recall and I'm like, wait
what, Yeah, I just thought that was fantastic talking. I'm a sucker
for a good twist, and yeah, let's not spoiling for anybody. Hey
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the original airdate of Million Dollars Aby was April in two thousand and six,
written by Tim Long, directed by Stephen Dean Moore. Our guest appearance from
Rob Ryner and Michael Carrington as the Jock Center host. Number two chopboard gag
was I will not flip the classroom upside down and it's actually upside down,
which I thought was very clever, and the couch gag. One was the
one with the Simpsons family are sitting down in the couch and it's TiVo,
and I was like, tivot wasn't a thing here, But I don't remember
still thing in America. We could just have like our Fox. Our box
just does essentially what TVO would do. But I remember there was a point
in time where being able to record TV was like such a cool concept where
it was no video games. It was just recorded on your box and you
could delete it. But you don't need it anymore. It was so awesome,
don't we called the DVR? Just did it recording? We did get
Oh my god, the modern world, What a world we live in,
What a time to be alive? Yes, and they says delete the recording
and delete the Simpsons. But the episode kicks up with the family watching TV
and we get a gag about Carmen Electra and her boobs, and I was
like, oh, that's a sign of two thousand and six. Carmon Electra,
I haven't had that name another long time. She she was like,
and I'll say this with in the nicest way possible, like gorgeous woman,
but she was not going to say she was almost like the poor Man's Pamela
Anderson. That's exactly what I was thinking when this and those exact words.
We folks, we did not collaborate on this, but yeah, I'm not
guessing a lot of people they're probably way But the fact of it is that
we both thought, yeah, Carmon Electric, nice gal, but the poor
Man's Pamela. Pamela kind of cornered the market on Guru A Ruger, That's
yeah, I mean, and yeah, the the exaggerated blonde bomb shelter up
and Carmon Electrics going. We couldn't afford Pamela rans and the Carmans free.
Oh yeah, cool, that's fine. Yeah, and she she seemed I
no more racy than Pamela. Pamela had a sex tape and stuff like that,
but carmea elected to see what she'd be up for. Nathan True.
I'm trying to recall if she was like a Prince protege, because Prince said
this phase where he was like, yeah, I'll help you get a recording
contract or whatever. The Purple rainstar dated a bevue Beautiful sales throughout his life,
including Kim Bassenger, Shila E, and calm An Electra. The relationship
came to an end in the early nineteen nineties. Come and want to live
in la and Prince wanted to stay in Minnesota. Prince wanted to stay in
Minnesota. It's just not what I expected. He Yet, we build Paisley
parkins like I don't need to live, you know, I want to hang
around, purify myself in the waters of Lake Netonka. They're talking about Jock
Center here and they're announcing they're going to have a new football team and they're
looking for a new place to bring it. And Lesa says, we only
known for the place that has the most heart attacks, and we get a
clip of Nelson and Moment having heart attacks. The home avows to make it
happen, and everybody laughs at him, and even Maggie bald Mummy is short
to fail. Then a random gag so cut too like the exterior of the
house, and we hear various sounds of Homer building is whatever it is,
and then there's a sto sort of payoff for the sounds that we hear.
It was odd, yeah, but here's the thing I mean within that is
kind of like the germ of an Okay gang, where it's like you hear
various sounds of work, and then you hear the pinball machine. It's like,
I can't be asked work anymore time to play pinball? But then you
have to put a hat on a hat on a hat with all this?
What was the other ship? It was like European siren and something else.
It's always like one too fair. He's come, that's kind of singing,
yeah, the ringer ring of rosy. Someone's like, yeah, fuck was
the point of that? You know? You had a perfectly good joke and
ye and yeah, screw it all up? Why is that happening? Where's
that coming from? What's I'm like, what's the payoff going to be for
this? Are the reason the payoff? What? What's happening here? But
Marge goes down, she finds Homer after a week, he's been working on
this thing and he's actually put together a pretty good pitch. He's built the
stadium and he's built there, got the d arama of the players and everything
like that. It's not bad. Um, No, Homer do good.
And he's called the team the Springfield Meltdowns. The various sponsors of the of
the model on the model there, and he's like Sponsor Sponsor spontsor spontsor a
stupid Flanders park and Marge pretty attraction to me, and she can't believe he's
done all this hard work, so she pounces on him. But first of
all, she says, would you mind brushing your teeth? And I've got
here. Have you ever kissed somebody who had bad breath? And did you
a tell them or be just run with it because he just really wanted to
kiss them. I'm normally the one with a bad breath. Yes. Has
any ever told you to brush your teeth? Kiss them? Oh? Yeah,
the love of the weed has many times. And I'm like, I
was gonna it's happened to me once and I kiss Nick and Nicholas like you
brush your teeth today, and I was like, oh man, now,
breath complex. It's like, yeah, I certainly will from now on.
Yeah. No, But I mean it's one of the things I tend to
be fairly conscious of or sensitive about. So usually if I wake up,
I'm going to run into the bathroom, you know, do a little plexing
so that minty fresh. Yeah, because you don't want to be hit hitting
up your lady love with dragon breath Oh hi, I'm Rob Reiner, director
of When Harry Met Sally. I'll have what she's having was one of the
lines. I'm here to tell you why you should choose La over Springfield.
La has the beach, a thriving music scene, and the beautiful Getty Museum.
Springfield has a pounahasapia pedal on. Hollywood takes in talented actors and writers
from all over the world. Springfield takes in garbage from other cities. But
don't just take my word for it. Some of Hollywood's biggest stars have taken
the time to sign waivers, allowing celebrity impersonators to sing in this video.
Enjoy the song a lot even funny, no, no, terrible. But
they're going through like a we are the world Like they do this perfectly in
Radio bart right, it doesn't work in this one. This one is just
what lazy And I don't know if the lazies this is meant to be the
point. It's like, these guys are no competition and we'll just say they
suck, and it goes on and on and on and on, and then
it just gets to them going we hate La. We weren't gonna get them
a team, and I'm like, then, why was it down to those
two? Yeah? By the way, one thing I did like about Rob
Ryana's guest performance of facing all the stars on Hollywood Boulevard, even his own
dad's by putting Rob over Carl Rhiner and Rhina over Roblow. Oh it was
pretty funny, was Rob blow? He was back into good books by this
point. Wasn't because he had west Wing and things like that. Yeah,
the early night, wasn't it. Yeah, late eighties or early nineties where
he sort of went off there because because it was Prey Wainsbow. Wasn't it
because Wainswell was like his comeback? Wasn't it a little bit of a comeback?
Yeah? I mean he in the in the lifespan of celebrity scandals,
his was fairly brief and burned out fairly quickly. Yeah. The upshot of
it was he was at some political rally and think he had a freeze threesome
which was taped with a couple of young women who turned out to be young
women. That's the issue, all right. Yeah, when I say young,
I mean like sixteen, and that's that's young. And but also they
may have been the age of consent in that particular area, but it's all
still like Rob come on man, and yeah he was off the radar for
a little while, but yeah, then bounce back. Where do you play
in Wayne's World? He was like that, I forgot the character's name,
but he was like the TV exact, wasn't he? The t was it
TV exactly? It wasn't he? Yeah. I have revisited Wayne's World for
a long time, and Nicholas never seen now. So we've got to watch
that movie one day because I used to love it when I was another teenager.
I don't know whether they watching. They're both not bad. I think
waynes World two was actually pretty good. I've never seen waynes World two.
I own, I owned waynes World, I've never watched it. Waynes World
two is pretty good, Okay. I got a bit of a soft spot
for I mean a lot of those SNL movies from the nineties and early two
thousands, a junk cone Heads. I used to like cone Heads when I
was a kid. I've never revisited. I'm going to leave it that way
because I feel like it's probably a bad movie, but I used to.
I used to like the cone Heads movie when I was Younger Ladies Man.
I didn't mind that there was a character played by Tim Meadows from Walk Card
and Mean Girls. He's basically just this like pimpy ladies man kind of guy
who has like a late night talking Talkbauck radio show where he's answering sexy questions
and he's usually like, oh, yeah, that sounds real sexy. You
will lead it. Oh, I don't know. They were able to spin
a movie out, but it had musical numbers and everything wasn't too bad.
At the Roxbury that was another one. The Roxbury. Um, yeah,
they went through a stage where they all these kind of one note characters got
movies. Yeah, it never happens anymore. I felt. The last person
to sort of get anything out of that was maybe Um Sandberg. He was
sort of the last little SNL started to sort of break out and do his
own thing. Do you think got his own show? Now? What?
He was dating Kardashian recently. What's his name? Oh, Pete Davidson.
Pete Davidson. But he's probably the breaker. Kate McKinnon, I guess yeah.
I mean a few have gone on to do other things. I mean,
yeah, Kate McKinnon's not unpopular. She's in the Barbie movie that's coming
up. One of one of my favorites from sl was as a woman called
Cecily Strong. She's fantastic, and she's on a show called Smickadoon on Apple
TV's sort of a musical. She's great. But now that it's not really
making the stars the way it used to. Nah, But we can sume
TV differently as well. Now. I mean I feel like sort of lives
by clips on YouTube as opposed to people sitting down on a Saturday and all
watching s and l at the same time. Yeah, much like tonight shows.
Yeah exactly. I can't remember the last time I actually sat down and
watch the full episode of a talk show when now it's like someone said a
little three minute clip on YouTube, Ill watch that, but I won't sit
down and watch the full episode. But yeah, So they've got the Springfield
blow song, which is no good. They all hate them. Maybe at
the rich text and saying he's just he's sad because he has to go tell
his gay grandson that he still loves him even though he's gay, And I
was like, what was he sad to say? I couldn't. It didn't
even feel like a gay. Well, he was like, I've gotta go
tell my grandson that I love him, even know that he's gay. I'm
okay, Alway says I can go tell my gay grandson that I still love
him. It was the tone for me. It was the tone of all
his texts, and so he would be opposed to homosexuality, So of course
that's the thing. I just didn't. It just felt weird, not necessary
to me. But then we get the news report for the announcement. This
is Kent Brockman Alive, a Duff Beer, Krusty Berger, bos Cola,
Costington's department store, Quickie Mark, Stupid Flanders Park. In just one hour,
the Commissioner of Football will arrive to sign the contracts necessary to make Springfield
the home of Pro Football's newest team, The Meltdowns. I've got melt maybe
I like dawn syndrome. In honor of the Commissioner's visit, the city has
been repainted in the team colors at all the streets whimsically renamed Dutchdown Avenue delightful.
Who are you talking to your imaginary girlfriend? No, it isn't your
mother a well known how No, you win this round? Mal, someone's
like they have now acknowledged that he yells at in every episode because the joke
is Jimbo saying, who are you talking to? Dude? Why are you
speakulate this when there's no one else around? It's like, what are you
doing? Yeah, a lot of these gangs just sort of had extra bits
that didn't really add anything or to tracted from what went beforehands like, yeah,
just cut it off it who are you talking to? Because if the
rebuttal is, isn't your mom a whore? You in this round? Mal?
I'm like, that's the joke. Come on, that's if that's the
page, that's the payoff and the set up just isn't required in my opinion.
Then Bob Armstroump he is late for the contract signing and he can't find
the place because Springfield change all the street names too. I thought that's I
thought that was okay, that it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I
didn't mind that he's late, But he's batch's died in his phone and his
assistant's dead. So he goes to the Simpsons house and Grandpa's there watching that,
watching Maggie's that what he's watching watching Maggie's that way he's there. I
know he's supposed whatever reason, and he wants to use the phone slash the
bathroom by the way, a quick nitpick. I know this is usually your
area, but they give you an image of the crowd, Rainy a Wolfcastle
shouldn't be in the crowd is to be like a corporate box or something.
That's true. Yeah, I'll take that. Yeah, it's just anyway.
But Grandpa he sees the news story about Snake, and Snake's talking about when
he breaks in the people's as he pretends to used to phae in the bathroom.
So Grandpa thinks that the commissioner is there to try and steal their gold,
steal their money, so he hits him with the golf club. There's
had an idea for a gag in that forty eight minutes thing where it's like
we spoke to someone about, you know, bashing old people over the head
or whatever. Do that thing on Current Affair shows where you blur out someone's
face so you can't see who they are, but it's Snake's voice. Yeah,
and you just know it. I was like having to say, like
premium or dude, having said do you know, like how do you know
how can you tell? I mean, how can you not tell? There's
a snake? Anyway? Yeah, hit him with the golf club, and
I'm doing what I can to help you. Simpsons episode You Need It.
We cut back to the crowd and Wigams telling bad Joseph try and store for
time until the commissioner arrives. He's resigning a poem. I don't know what
it is. It's like a poem about ancient Native Americans or something. Okay.
The family then arrived home. They find the commissioner all tied up and
he storms out, and then we get a really mean, sad line from
Homer. Here he goes, you're a useless old man, and I'm like
that, It's just like, I don't know that was that was. And
because that line was there backed up with nobody loving him and him resorting to
suicide, what the fuck kind of morbid shit is this? It was simple,
you're useless old man. We left me with the baby. You left
me with a baby. They kind of end with a gag there, but
I just thought you were a useless old man. There's no jokes there.
It's just a real mean spirited line from that just I don't know didn't work
from me. Now you could say that it's it's valid or that it's necessary
for the story in terms of well it makes Grandpa to press and he thinks
about ending at all. But again, it's a matter of how it's handled,
how it's presented, how it's yea, all that kind of stuff.
But yeah, Grandpa has to feel low. But yeah, I mean to
do it this way, it kind of feels not so much like, oh
well, this will get us moving to the next man. That's just something
you don't come back from. Yeah, And then it's just like they would
have the argument, Wow, well Marge told her to call him, but
but you got distracted by the phone, you know that the movie survey or
whatever it was. And I'm like yeah, but then no one thought to
go, oh well, let's just call him up again, you know,
like, okay, home, we got distracted. But where was anyone?
Why why didn't Marge call? And what didn't lesa go seeing wouldn't like no
one cared about Graham but to the point where we want to commit suicide and
had the lockers that, had the law not changed, he'd be dead and
they wouldn't have even realized. Very true. Also, as we said earlier,
you know, it's just a missed opportunity where Lisa should be the only
one who cares about him. So at the end it feels like it's cause
an effect. Yeah, but by the way, Chief Wiggins is reciting the
song of Hiawatha by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, which is also a name for a
part of My Anatomy. I wanted to also point out that this episode was
rated M in Australia because of the themes of M Yeah, you would fifteen
in the UK. So everyone now hates Grandpa. Get the montage with John
Lennon's Nobody Loves You when You're Down and Out, which is a great song.
Even the Denchers won't smile at Grandpa anymore. No one likes him.
The old Jewish guy arrives and he spits on him, and then he gives
him the card for the euthan Asia doctor and Grandpa says he wants to grab
a bit of dignity slipping in the shower and they find him more blood.
Just so, I don't know, it's a different whether he's a human or
a couch. Mister Simpson, you are a good candidate for assisted suicide.
I think you're cute too, but killing yourself isn't as easy as putting on
an ugly sweater like you did today. I want you to carefully think about
this for twenty four hours. Oh, I see. You want me to
reconsider whether or not I really should give up my life. Yeah, and
we're cleaning out the death machine today. A lot of gun gets stuck in
it. Grandpa says that he will decide to live if he gets a phone
call, and Marge told him to call. He's about to call, but
he gets the movie Sovey the questionnaire gets distracted, and another whole day goes
by, and Grandpa decides he's going to kill himself because no one has called
him and no one likes him anymore. He feels like a useless old man.
As Homer puts it. We're now at the clinic and he says he's
gonna be hooked up to the dipod, which which now is nostalgia because the
iPod isn't a thing anymore. Correct. I remember a news article about Apple
have discontinued the iPod, and I was like, that's sad. I mean,
they're not necessary anymore. They're still sad. You know, it's still
kind of I don't know. I like them. I like the idea of
them. Yeah, but I mean I know we're all listening to him through
our phones, and it's like, I like the idea, just a little
device, it's just for that unnecessary, but I can understand why people will
still have that connection to him because that's what they've Or even the Mini,
I mean I used to like I had a Mini that I really dug.
I hated the minis because you couldn't have as much. I used to like
having the info. To me, it was a big deal having like the
album cover and the song information. I was like, this is like my
little collection here in my little in my pocket. And then I used to
sit there for ages, like updating the titles and the writers and having the
album covers, and there's a big deal to me. When iPads iPods first
had the color, it was like whoa, it was like a new world.
But just hearing that, you know, the iPods they're gone, I
can imagine it'd be almost like when you read the article about the VCRs being
discontinued. Yeah, oh absolutely, and or even d going to JB and
like we were on the Blue Beach. You go j being there, like
would you like it free Blue Bay when you enter the store, and I'm
like, not really actually what they did, but I'm just like they can't
give them away now, you know what I mean. It's just I mean,
I they had a buy won't get one free sale and I looked through
everything and I went, there's nothing. There's nothing. The other thing was
I mean, yeah, because I saw that same thing because we were sort
of negotiating that if you want one, I'll go pick yeah, because if
you want one, then you get one and all that other I found two
that I wanted and it was like not available for clicking collecting your local stores.
I want to pay for posts. I'm what's the point. I'm like,
how a bad fuck you? Yeah. I'm like, I'm not saving
anything because I'm gonna be posting it anyway. Yeah, so god, hell
yeah. It's like they've they don't stop. But I'm not happy they don't
stock their stores anymore with like older, older films, And I'm like,
I know you can. It's happening. Like we're on the right track.
We're on the track now. They will be gone soon. You do realize
this like, I think we have both both have to accept physical media will
be gone. And the next time, the other day we lost our Telsia
fucked up our internet and we couldn't get internet right, We couldn't stream anything.
And Eliot's like, I want to watch Space Jam. I'm like,
we can't make it. We can't because fucking Netflix isn't working. I'm sorry
like that, He's like, we make it work. I'm like, it
doesn't work. I want to watch Space Jam. And then and then he
just goes put the disc in. I was like, wait a minute,
what an idea? That is? This novel concept of putting a fucking movie
in the displayer and actually playing the movie. I never would have thought of
that one. Well done sim wisdom from the mouths of Babes. I was
like, all this argument could have been sold if I just went to the
shelf with the four K and Space Jam and put it in the machine.
But the idea of all of us not. If I can't get Netflix,
then I can't watch it. It's like they've because they've they've converted me.
I'm like, wait a minute, it's there. I owned the movie.
Why do I care if Netflix has it? Or not. And then I
put it in. I was like, Wow, it's clearer. I can
skip chapters, the trailers and everything. That's right. There was something novel
about putting it in and just getting the menu. I was like, oh,
menus, I remember these special features audio coming Terry's music videos from songs
in the film. We never had it so good and put it on.
We'll putting it on and Alliott's going through and he goes, what's that one.
I'm like, that's the film clip for the for the Bad Guys song.
And he goes, put it on. He watched that film clip.
I'm like, repeat for like ten fifteen minutes three times in a row.
The the idea of a music video. He was like what is this?
Like what what? And I was like, oh yeah, music videos don't
really thing anymore, like they are on YouTube. But like I don't think
people go out of their way to watch music videos any what that is like
streamed the song on Spotify, you know, let's reconci how often do you
watch the videos on YouTube? You know what I mean? Unless it's like
an old one. But growing up, it was if you wanted to hear
the song, unless it was on the radio. You had to wait for
it to the music video on Yeah, on Smash Hits or yeah whatever it
was video hits, video hits, or as I watched it, as I
evolved to a mature teenager or preteen rage Rage like the Rage Top fifty was
awesome because it was noahds and it was uncut, so you had the swearing.
But they played the full music video and the full music video that I
remember watching, obviously you would have been like Thriller or something, right,
but the Backstreet Boys is gonna sound silly, I know. But the Backstreet
Boys had a video for that ever a Bard Yeah that song, which is
like Thriller and it's all monsters and ships. Yeah yeah, like universal monsters.
Right. But there was like a two minute interlude of them arriving at
the Haunted Mansion and then being going to bed and being all spoot and going
I know about this place, man, And then then they wake up and
they are they are the monsters, right, and that the start and that's
when they wake up. That's when the show's up. Video hits were just
cuts them going every Bard already in their monster form. But it's like a
two minute thing that's set up and they're becoming the monsters, and then after
the song's finished, there was like a two minutes afterwards where they're like turned
back into people again, like they wake up from their dream. And I'm
like, you would only get that if you watched it on Rage, So
it was like it was a big deal to see the full clip. Yeah.
The funniest thing that happened on Rage as well was they'd get international artists
who are touring or whatever. It's like, come on and program Rage and
can play any videos. You're like, yeah, and everyone always played this
song called Window Liquor by Aphex Twin because the video was banned everywhere else in
the world. It's necessarily violent or sexy and everything like that. It's kind
of sexy comes but it's just disturbing. It's got some really like weird imagery
because afx twin his sort of logo as this mask that's sort of like grinning
Joker mask, and it's got all these women in skimpy bikinis being sort of
hosed down and shaking their butts in slow motion, but they've all got the
smiley face on and it's kind of like, this is weird. That's infesting
my dreams. But everyone who who came in from overseass like you can play
us on TV. We're programming that. That was great, but we were
now returning you to million dollars AB already in progress. But yeah, I
was will say everyone hates Grandpa's that the clinic's hooked up to the diapod.
That's right. He wants the Glenmill Orchestra. Let's just skim through this piece
of shit, man. Yeah, he wants to see hear the music,
and watch videos of cops beating up hippies. Then the cops enter with one
minute to go before he's about to die, and the sister's suicide law has
been overturned. Her grandpa wikes off, thinks that he's dead. He's running
through the streets and in his gown and he says he doesn't know whether he's
in heaven and hell, and he says, Hanburger heaven and Charlie chaplain.
He thinks he's in heaven as well, and he walks into Luigi's for whatever,
raising the family just happened to be there. What you're all dead too?
So who went berserk? That's so? Were the little guy run out
dead? And matter a year, I'm not. I guess if you want
to commit suicide around here, you gotta do it yourself. So sad gap
killing yourself as a sin, but not just to die of old age after
years of pain and reduced mobility. I ain't gonna kill myself because I just
learned something. The brief time I thought I was dead was the happiest I've
ever been because I was finally living without fear and Dad never Dead's the way
I'm gonna live the rest of my life after years of pain and an immability.
And I was like, that's a good lie. I appreciate that one.
That's the kind of thing that's irrelevant to this episode. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah exactly. And then Grandpa, this whole story should have
been about euthanasia. That's that's the thing. Got set up about the football
team, and then have the batter or at the end, it's like the
only then is only about five minutes of this actual episode. It's crazy to
think that such a such a hot topic was barely in this episode at all.
But we're now at the wet to come to the point where Grandpa said
he's gone to live without any fear. You know, the moment where I
thought I was dead was where I was just happy and I wasn't worried.
We had a montage of him sort of living life on to the extreme,
but as an old person, like using the other saltwater taffy and skateboarding on
but any two things saltwater taffy and skateboard on his scooters, you're all going
to die in a pointless war. There was one thing here that made me
sad was the exterior of the supermarket has been updated. It used to always
be that old supermarket with the trolley rolling out of the out of the young
car park, but it was as a different design now. It was like
ally when you look at nineties McDonald's stores and you look at modern stores.
It made me sad. But when now at the town hall meeting there thinking
of ideas for the stadium now because they've spent all this money on a stadium
now they've got no use for it, no use for it. This giant
stadium, there's no use for it. We didn't we have that recently where
it was we have no use for this orchestra with some Yeah, it's a
music hall that we built. It's right, yeah, I'm pretty sure you
just rehashed the same story. Literally now I must admit I've forgotten, so
I've written, who's the Spaniard? Is here the guy from the people that
had all the different movie jackets? Yeah? Yeah, it's planning a Hollywood
jacket guy. Yeah yeah, but only only twig because I saw the plane
a Hollywood jacket and I'm like, oh, ok AD's that guy? Of
all the people, you could bring back this guy. I feel that the
design is kind of different with him. Started with him quite it looked it
kind of looked like him, but it didn't as well at the same time.
But they they he suggests bullfighting, they all say, oh, they
need a matador, and Grandpa's like, oh, do it. And then
I'm like, okay, why that's your way of living after the fullest?
Is it? I don't know, It's just isn't it a death wish?
Being a bullfighter? Anyway? And like the it's the thing. I guess
the family didn't want him to the family that want into it was Is it
just Lisa did did we see margin Homer protest against it to say don't do
it, it's too dangerous. Not that I recall, no so that the
whole point of them being annoyed that he was can't commit suicides, it seems.
And this is the thing. Not once in that scene where he said,
you want to commit suicide, did they say you can't do that because
we love you. It was you can't do it because God doesn't want you
to, So that they didn't even they didn't even have them say that they
love him in that moment. Yeah, this is an opportunity for you to
do that kind of thing, to reinforce the and the and have the family
realize, oh my god, we are not showing this man the love that
he needs. You know, they just fopped it off, like you can't
kill yourself. God doesn't want you to anyway. So Granba was now practicing
the bullfight and he was Bart, sorry, see the mat off thing and
with the red flag, and Bart goes past home and finds a penny,
bends over. You think he's gonna get a horn in the bum, but
he gets it in the crutch out. We're now at the first fight and
Lisa is at the front protesting because you know who cares about grab By killing
himself, But those bulls, he can't kill those bulls, you know,
Carlin Lenny. They compliment her, singing, He's going to bring it the
bull's heart, and Grandpa's all dressed up and marches, yeah, you know,
he looks. He looks pretty good, all dressed up in the in
the outfit. Then the bull just roundly gets tired and falls down in front
of it. Is this how bullfights go? I've never I've never actually watched
one. I just don't want I don't want to. I don't want to
watch the only well, the main thing that I remember about bullfights is there
was there's great memorable or viral moment where a Matt at Door just sort of
realized halfway through a bullfight that he was like, you know what, fuck
this, this kind of sucks, and he just stops and he goes and
sits down, and actually he's sort of I mean, it's one of those
things where it's like this image can mean anything, but it was like this
guy I was crying because he realizes, oh god, I'm just here to
kill this ball for no reason. And you know, you seem sort of
leaning against the woman, just feeling ashamed of himself or whatever. It's like,
I mean, that's kind of moving and poignan or whatever. But yeah,
unlike this episode, which is neither of those things. No. Then
yet the shot with the ball looking up sad and broken and tired, and
Grandpa lifts up the knife and you think what was he going to do?
And he comes down and it cuts away to Lisa, and I'm like,
okay, so what the grand But I actually do I know? The ball
just got killed. That's a line that I feel that Simpsons have never crossed
shore. We see the animals getting killed and things like that, but for
it to be handled in this way, it just felt so wrong. It
just felt so Unsimpson, Like, didn't it It just felt so I don't
know, I just I didn't. I didn't like it. Yeah, and
this is not to say there's not room for quote unquote dramatic moments or poignant
moments in a Simpson episode, but yeah, this one just felt kind of
awkward and weird and not mean spirits a bit a little bit cruel, A
pointless death in a pointless episode. Yeah. Yeah, although I must admit
the old man beats meadline was not unfunny. Yeah, it was funny,
of course, but that's where I went, Oh, he actually did it,
so Lisa. Then Lisa goes to see him and she says, and
he says, I've got to do this because people are now cheering for me.
I was always cheering for you, Grandpa. And I'm like, no,
was she though? Tim? Tim, Tim, do you remember did
you cut something out of the script that we're forgetting to that we didn't see
here, because I'm pretty sure we never once saw Lisa show any form of
empathy towards Grandpa. She was showing some empathy towards other bulls, Grandpa not
so much. But now which want to get her own way. Suddenly she
shown him everything. She she trying to lay the guilt trip, saying,
I was always cheering for you. Give me one example, buddy, one
example down built exactly the same face as though in that name was like is
he though, yeah, it's not exactly the same face. Seriously, it's
just terrible the way this was handed. And the next fight, Grandpa he
seems distracted, and then he releases the balls. He sees the light,
he sees the positives and situation. He's like, no, this can't happen.
This is ridiculous. Let's all the balls out. And then this is
like, I guess Grandpa sat them all free. Why would you think that?
What made it think that? Anyway? But then I did like the
ball getting on the elevator and going up to see the guy in the commentator
of Booth's stupid but funny. And then they take out gil Luigi was taking
that as well. He's Luis's walking around with some fresh veal. And then
Grandpa and Lisa are just randomly floating in chairs with balloons. I missed that,
but did By the way, did you catch the there was a swartzwelder
cameo? No, I didn't see that. Where was he? Oh,
there's a running sort of the balls the ball tore chasing people down the street.
And I'm pretty sure he's on the left with the long hair and the
hat and the glasses. Okay, did you not see the end of with
Lisa and Grandpa and the sky with the balloons in the chair the end of
the episode. I must have missed that. I don't How did I miss
that? At the very end, Grandpa and Lisa were up in the sky
on chairs with balloons, much like the up house. And then the bulls
float up with balloons as well, and he goes, oh, did you
not see the end of the episode. I honestly don't recall that, and
I'm sure I watch the episode because I went to the Yeah, because I
saw I saw the bit over the closing credits with him and like um testifying
at the anti communist hearings. How did I miss that bit? It must
have been paying attention. Yeah, so, and with Grandpa and Lisa in
the sky sitting on a like chairs with balloons attached to floating in the sky,
and He'll be like, ah, thanks Grandpa for finally doing this,
and then bulls float up in the sky with angry faces on balloons, and
Grandpa's like, oh, Dan, I assure you I watched this episode.
I think the fact that I've point it out, you know, beats from
this episode would indicate that I had. I honestly don't remember that, and
I watched it not that long ago. What the hell was going on?
Did you? What? Did you watch it on Disney Plants or on the
discs or Disney Plus? Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go
back and rewatch it on Disney Plants or rewatch the last bit because that bit.
Honestly, I do not recall. But the bit of the credits was
just where was that from? That? Did I miss something? It's like,
that's not no relation to this episode. I don't think so, I'm
like at all, where would this a fit in? I don't get it.
Yeah, it's got no relevance and no relation to anything that happens in
this episode. This was such a bizarre episode. This was so weird.
Yeah, and so not good. No, so not good? Sound good?
That was? That was? That was? Yeah, I don't know,
I fail on the Simpsons part. This maybe maybe drum me if you
will, maybe in my top ten worst episodes I've seen to date doing this
podcast pretty bad, it's no good. I'm gonna say, I'm going to
agree with you. It's yeah, it was unnecessarily pointless and morbid and yeah
from a joke, Yeah, from a joke perspective and a human perspective and
all the kinds like, no, it failed quite miserably. Yeah, but
in other terms, it's like, yeah, you had something you could do
here, but you did it all wrong and just all over the shop like
a bloody mad dog shit, a mad dog shit from this knee forward your
name, droll me okay, mister Davis, it is time for the new
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this In first position we have Luke mcalon thirteen points. In second position we
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and Garrod Harrowhill both on nine points. So hit me, what are the
one two three four this week? Oh? Are we doing four points as
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old gold, silver and bronze and one point goes to matter dope, matter
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on the leaderboard. I don't know whether it is. No, Justin is
now on three points. Why I'm Justin? That name sounded none for me
to me. Well done, Justin, welcome to the league. Yeah,
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well downe Mark Boston Burgess. But three points for signor citizen signior citizen.
That's actually even better and that is from one Heath Appleby Wow, that's
Heath. Oh not quite first, So okay. So Luke McKay is still
in first position thirteen points, but that now means with Heath getting that three
points, Heath is now tied for second position on ten points, with Adam
Moorhouse and Garrod and Kyle still just one point behind them on nine. So
it's a two weight. It's a tie for second and tie for third as
well. Oh, very nice. How do you like them? Applebee's very
good stuff? Deail here? All right? First question it comes from you've
guessed at Andrew JP. Andrew says, if you could have any sporting team
join an existing competition, who were to be and in what competition? I'd
love to see the a Canberra team in either the BBL or the NBL.
So who won't a Gelong team in, assuming that they would be a half
decent. Well, I'm at last just been getting back into the Supercats because
he loves basketball. Alliott Oh Yeah, So I've been out to Supercats games
and things like that, so I'm sort of like starting to follow the NBL
a bit more again. Um, but so we already have an MBL team
them and in the NBA would be pretty cool, but obviously that's not going
to happen. We're kind of got a cricket team with the who is it
that the it's the Red BBL team, It's Melbourne. It's a Melbourne team,
but they basically like associated with because there's two Melbourne teams and one of
them is associated with Geelong. You know what I'm talking? Who are they?
I don't follow cricket enough to be able to I don't have a single
solidary cloth. Yeah, we have a melbourn team that's associated with Gelong,
so we're kind of got to geln team. I don't know what about you,
like, what's what's sports? What sports are you into? Besides AF
I was quite into basketball for a while. I mean, the Supercats had
a real moment the son back in the back in the eighties, and the
late great Bobby Davis, My father was associated with him to some degree.
He was he was very close with a guy who was sort of a bit
of a power breaker with Gelong basketball such as it was, so we'd go
to a lot of games, got to hang out with some of the players.
The great Cal Bruton he was He wasn't a tall guy, but he
was a fucking fantastic baller. He was really, really good. There was
a guy called James Coroford. It was fantastic and a huge white dude.
These were all American guys. These are all imports named Jim Town and Jim
I got along famously for some reason. I mean, he was looking back
and he was probably only in his early twenties or the thing. He's probably
fresh out of college. And I was his little weakness, little um,
you know, teenage kid who was probably came up to about his kneecout.
But I used to give him shit all the time. For some reason.
I did just figured that I'm not not in a sort of a snarky way,
but I'd tease him a bit. I know, for some reason.
Have you ever met someone you just know you can take the piss out of
them and they'll kind of dig it, or you know, you can get
up yeah, and then sometimes sometimes you take it that a little bit too
far and you're like, ah man, and then you get picked up and
putting a bin. Yeah, I don't know that that didn't. You're supposed
to be cool. Man's supposed to take This is all I got, man,
this is all feelings. But no, I mean I used to go
to see the Supercats all the time and I thought they were fantastic. So
um, all due respect to the current Supercats, I'm sorry, I'm not
really paying much attention to your prow West, but I think it'd be great
if Gelong basketball got a bit more of a resurgence. Yes, one hundred
percent, because it needs to, because you go to games and like they're
playing okay, the super Cats, but and you think, like Geelong,
how do we not have a team that's more importantly? You feel like when
you're in Geelong, it's all about the football team. You very rarely see
the super Cat per murdered anyway anymore. Used to be like giant billboards over
to roundtown the super Cats, and it's like you wouldn't even know that we
even have a team anymore. I feel like we're just walking around town and
things like that. It's really weird. But what would do one more question?
Because' been going really long in this episode. This one here is focused
Jeffs. Do you have any funny or embarrassing sports stories from days gone by?
Have any funny stories from going to the footy with your dad or anything
like that. I didn't really go all that often, although I remember when
I was very very young. I don't know why this guy, but I
was with my sister ed ween and she's the one closest to me in age,
and we were in the outer. It's good, good to be in
the outer every once in a while. For some reason, some guy was
dissing our dad. I don't know why. I mean, Dad wasn't really
involved. He wasn't playing. Oh he wouldn't been playing well, no,
I mean I was born after he started. He finished coaching a little.
But for some reason, yeah, I think he Maybe Dad was on the
radio or something on three g L, the home of home of football,
and yes, guy said something when it was not backwards back, that's our
dad you're talking about. I'm sorry, kids, I've made a girl man
cry so but embarrassing sports serves myself and look, I'm sure i've got some.
I mean, just you know, general fuck ups from when you think
you should you'd be trying to look sort of cool or proficient in what you're
doing, and said, you just mess up. I used to row,
you know, like you've said this before. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the worst thing that can happen when you row is then called catching a
crab. When you're you're putting your raw forward and it gets caught in the
water and sort of comes reverbing back at you and it hits you in the
ribs and it can just you know, it sucks up your whole race.
It fucks you up. And yeah, that happened to me once. It
almost knocked me out of the boat. It was just why is it called
catching crab? Where's the relation to crabs? Um? It's like you you
all goes in a bit too deep and you can't get it out in time.
Okay, I'm just thinking someone's just thrown crabs it, Yeah, don't
catch them. They probably should do that. Yeah, I want to break
position cheese kind of like bombardment, but just crabs. I M I broke
my wrist once playing football and remember when I was on the ground, it
was like under fourteen, So like you're at that age where you know you're
not an adult, but you kind of feel like you're a grown up.
You know. I'm fourteen now. Anyway, I broken wrists. I remember
my mom yell at my boys hurt, and I was like, oh no,
Mom, don't do it. And and then I had this guy say
you can't go out in the ground. Man, you cannot go out in
the ground. And I remember just laying on the ground here and my mom
going, you can't stop me from getting to my son. And Mom just
like ran out in the field. The game had to stop, and I'm
like, oh my god, obviously had a broken wrist. But I was
just like coming off. Mum's like walking off with me. I'm just like,
Ohm, leave me alone. I'm like walking off the ground. She's
walking me off the ground, my mum. Your mom's like mel Gibson the
ransom, give me my alrighty, Well, that is a mailbag four million
dollars. Abe. As you said, guys, this was not a great
episode. Even when we go back and went through it all usually gets a
little bit better. No, I think this one might have got worse.
This one's just not a good one at all. But we'd love to hear
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No, I just gotta go because it's time for this old man to beat meat.