WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.120 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez. Sound Fox 2 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:10.480 Sports fourteen fifteen. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeart Radio Whip Just 3 00:00:10.640 --> 00:00:14.279 Surgery. I on the Bar. Hey, welcome back to the ball here 4 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:17.640 on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jagon's oss. Now 5 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:25.079 we have Jason Wins some breaking news on the ball. Breaking news eleven former 6 00:00:25.120 --> 00:00:30.039 Wildcats while we're participating in the twenty twenty three NBA Summer League. Inta um, 7 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:34.200 these eleven representatives from Arizona are the most by any school or program in 8 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:38.240 the country. Yeah. Some names that I didn't know. We're still around, 9 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:39.960 Steve. Do you see that? Do you see the list? Well, 10 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:42.000 in the list, I was if you didn't wrinch in this, I 11 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:44.799 was gonna mention that. Yeah, no, it's a great list. Can 12 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:47.679 we go through the lists to this real quick? Do you have the list? 13 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:51.079 Yeah? Go ahead, Jason true lists, go ahead? Sorry, 14 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:55.520 Yeah, first player is Chance Comanche. Let's kind of review, just real 15 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:58.640 quick, real quick. Uh. I thought he had some great potential and 16 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:03.640 he was coming on and then thinking that either Okay, no, I'm gonna 17 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:06.959 We're gonna assume him here. He was here, he saw that he was 18 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:10.159 on the sophomore year playing really well, Oh, this guy's gonna be good. 19 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:12.439 I'm wondering if you really had a chance to get to the next level 20 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:15.640 or he just didn't want to be here. Did you want to be because 21 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:19.799 he was? He had a tough under Sean? Yeah? Yeah, who 22 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:21.760 who you know? Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? Yeah? 23 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:25.239 But yeah he as they say, gone too soon? Well then Jay, 24 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:26.760 let me say this too. And for whatever reason, I want to say 25 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:33.120 this. The stories these guys could tell, the stories they could tell, 26 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:37.879 this is another book ye did never tell. But they're not gonna never tell. 27 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:42.359 They're gonna yeah, Okay. The second player is Cedric right with Cavaliers. 28 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:46.280 Cavaliers Okay, good luck. Yeah, yeah, you know, the 29 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:49.239 first first time, first time out of the basket, trying to trying to 30 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:52.280 hook up somewhere, you know, land on the league team somewhere, right 31 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:57.519 right, that's really what he's trying to do. Third player is Justin Kreiter 32 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:00.200 san Antonio. Yeah, had a good first year. Uh, he's probably 33 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:02.480 a G league guy. He played most of the year in G League. 34 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:06.799 Last year with San Antonio, good luck. The good guy, smart guy. 35 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:08.599 I liked him a lot. He was I you know, he saved 36 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:13.400 a lot he I when went out. Yeah, you know, I remember 37 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:15.919 the first time I saw him in not not in a you know, in 38 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:17.759 an actual game. I thought, this kid can really be good because he 39 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:23.599 was aggressive defensively and he worked hard defensively, and I thought, this is 40 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:27.280 the guy that Sean Miller is gonna love. I guess he didn't have enough 41 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:31.319 of an offensive game play. He played for Tommy we gon a one year 42 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:36.879 for tom Right, didn't claim Georgia, played for Georgia, came in for 43 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:39.159 Georgia. I thought he played a year for Sean. This is the third 44 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:46.599 year he last year was his first year u a the previously. Oh all 45 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:49.439 right, he stepped in for Kerr. I could be wrong, but I 46 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.199 don't think I am. Okay, you could maybe well all right, but 47 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.560 either way, I thought this is a kid who he's working hard. Right, 48 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:59.400 you really saw a work ethic on him. Maybe you're right. I 49 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:01.080 think you're right. He just played the one year here. I liked him 50 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:06.479 a lot, Yeah, especially for a guy only here one year. A 51 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:10.039 fourth player is Nico Mannion well Man, this guy you know he's from Phoenix. 52 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:13.400 Yeah, when you were a kid. Yeah, he was like one 53 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:15.400 of the best high school players ever, ever, ever. I heard about 54 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:21.280 him a lot. He was fantastic at least uh coming in Yeah, hyped, 55 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:25.879 hyped over Zeke and hyped over over Green And he was one of those 56 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:30.960 guys that just he's the one. He's the one that could tell stories and 57 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:34.560 he's the one that sticks out to me as a guy who was just here 58 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:40.439 his time, no question. You know you have felt that way about DeAndre 59 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:45.319 Ayton. But Nico Mannon, you can tell, wanted to be anywhere. 60 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:49.000 But in college the one thing that happened to him was Miller's offense. He 61 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.639 didn't let him, let him do, didn't couldn't let him play. And 62 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:53.879 people said that. People would say things like, oh, you know, 63 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:55.479 he's not listening to Sean Miller, He's listening to his dad, who's saying 64 00:03:57.319 --> 00:03:59.560 stuff like that. That was another issue. Yea, yeah, yeah, 65 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:03.879 our next players better And of course you know great Paer. They mentioned him 66 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:08.680 today, They mentioned him to Rich Jefferson, um because he's talking about you 67 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:11.520 all the time. He had the first year that was fantastic. Yea. 68 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:14.919 All rookie team. Yeah, one of the best players in the last ten 69 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:16.480 years. He why is he? Why is he playing in the summer? 70 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:23.560 Experience she's that good. Yeah, experience. Our next player and another guy 71 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:26.120 that I had no idea was still around, right, you know, played 72 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:30.199 in Australia, went back home. Um still you know, still making it 73 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:34.920 okay. Next player is Brandon Randolph again, another guy. Guy just kind 74 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:40.040 of a a nondescript kind of guy, or I should say that had a 75 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:43.399 nondescript kind of career. Yeah, you know, he was injured, some 76 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:47.680 played some never was really as good as everybody expected him to be. Our 77 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:51.439 next guy is Kobe Simmons. Another dude who got lost in the shuffle because 78 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:56.639 he remember he was Treers back up right and when Truer was out with his 79 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:00.959 bunch and was very very good. But he two didn't want to be here. 80 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.399 He knew, he knew that he was here. He had people, 81 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:04.199 he had people in his ear and said, you know, can just get 82 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:06.839 out of here and just get out, don't waste your time here. Okay, 83 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:09.600 you're good enough to be in the G League. Go over there. 84 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:11.839 And he's been hanging out for a while, right for it's got to be 85 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:14.800 about five six years. Yeah. Yeah, our next story is dal and 86 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:17.000 Terry. Yeah, this is the guy who needs to work. Yeah, 87 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:19.680 he needs to work. Last year, at this time, no, that's 88 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:23.720 true. About ten months ago we were thinking what are you doing? What 89 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:26.839 are you doing? And then he gets drafted. He didn't spend a lot 90 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:30.759 of time at the at the NBA level last year. He needs he needs 91 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:32.879 the work. But you know the obviously they feel there's some promise in him 92 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:36.000 to let him have a chance to go get some time in. So he 93 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:40.759 needs that. Dal and Terry our next players A zulistic Villas. Yep. 94 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:44.360 He hasn't played much. He didn't play much in Sacramento. He didn't play 95 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:46.439 the first game. I think they played three games. They were one and 96 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:49.360 two. He played thirteen minutes. Last game, he had like two points 97 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:51.600 twice. To get on the floor, he's got to get on the floor, 98 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:54.160 get on the flo. And I don't know how you get on the 99 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:57.439 floor. They don't. They don't think you can get on the floor because 100 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:00.279 if he gets on the floor, you feel like he'll show right. But 101 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:01.879 if but if the people you're playing for don't believe in you, Yeah, 102 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:04.920 I hear it. If no one knows you can dance, but you're a 103 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:09.639 good dancer, but no one says no. Who says yes? I'll never 104 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:15.959 know. Last players Brandon Williams another dude. Remember he kind of saved Sean. 105 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:17.839 He came on the scene. He could have laughed, and he stayed 106 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:21.480 here and he was the guy to save Sean with the recruits. Yeah, 107 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:25.319 but then he got hurt, got hurt, hardly played. We hardly saw 108 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:28.519 it right. But you know, you look at those names, you know 109 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:31.519 I'll run the one, just one that's not on this the most one of 110 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:38.519 the most mysterious guys. Grant Jared No, no, no, who who 111 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:40.959 left him? What are you thinking? I mean, look at his name? 112 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:46.759 Is a chance Comanche? Uh? You know Keanu Pinned or Brandon Randolph, 113 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:49.639 Kobe Simmons, Brandon him. It's hard for me to believe those guys 114 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:54.839 are still kicking around and still. I mean, if they're in this league, 115 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:58.879 they've got a chance to be in the in the NBA. Some smaller 116 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:00.319 than others, but sure, it's amazing to me that these guys are still. 117 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:02.439 Right. If I was at the paper, if I was at the 118 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:08.399 paper still many years ago, I would be in Vegas now doing cover covering 119 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:11.720 this and not the victors stuff. It would be these guys. Yeah, 120 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:15.279 and the stories they could tell. Know honestly, j you know that there's 121 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:19.720 stuff, and there's stuff because they know stuff. Yeah, no doubt there's 122 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:23.319 stuff. There has to be, there has to be. Good good luck 123 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:26.160 twelve these guys, you know, good luckwe And there's one more, Quinn 124 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:30.319 Crawford. He's a coach. He's coaching the Lakers team. He's the head 125 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:33.439 coach of the Lakers team. Had you asked me this this name or is 126 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:36.959 this guy? I don't know, but he was he was, he was. 127 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:41.519 He was the coaches for Sean right about ten years ago. Whatever. 128 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:44.560 Well, he was. He was a walk on and then then was the 129 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:46.800 GA and then he got he got into coaching in the pros. Yeah, 130 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:53.240 you got himself a gig, you know. Yeah. Arizona Volleyball right in 131 00:07:53.240 --> 00:08:00.439 blue match will be played on August nine, team first time without Rubio Layers 132 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:03.519 one hundred and fifty years. Yeah. Yeah, and we're gonna have him 133 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:05.519 on the show because I'm sure he's more relaxed. He's kind of living. 134 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:09.279 You know, he's out there doing camps. I've been saying, you know, 135 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:11.279 I follow him on Twitter. So he's out there. He's out there 136 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:16.279 doing stuff. He's not staying active, right, probably staying as busy as 137 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:20.079 he wants to be, right, Yeah, awesome. National News. The 138 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:26.680 Minnesota Timberwolves guard Mike Conley is a recipient of the Joe D. Moore's Trophy 139 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:31.080 for the for winning the twenty twenty two twenty twenty three NBA NBA Sportsmanship Award. 140 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.399 Michael Conley. I know the name barely, but he was a lefty, 141 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:39.600 lefty guard, right, yeah, left to guard, a veteran league. 142 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:43.559 Right. His dad, His dad was a pretty good player. He's 143 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:46.159 a track guy, I think Conny, I think so, yeah, okay, 144 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:54.000 lefty okay? Um NICKI mccrawl, Nick mccrawl. K Penson has passed 145 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:56.759 at the age of fifty one, right, because she was a w NBA 146 00:08:56.840 --> 00:09:00.360 for the w NBA, kind of legendary player out of Tennessee, right, 147 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:05.639 yep, and uh died of fifty one again, you're right, you know, 148 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.519 assume a healthy, in shape person, Yeah, an athlete. And 149 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:18.279 then there's Olympic gold medal drops one years old. Scary step in that range, 150 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:20.279 and I'm not joking about it. I'm not gonna joke about this because 151 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:24.720 you never know you're you're in the sixties, I mean my late fifties. 152 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:28.320 I eat like crap. I eat like crap. You just don't know. 153 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:31.240 I mean, you just don't know. My daughter's home and I'm eating better. 154 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:35.600 Well, she's not stay there forever? Do you understand what I'm saying? 155 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:37.720 You could I could just get hit by the bus here, or I 156 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:43.200 can sing like you know these world class athletes. Yeah, asking away like 157 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:46.399 a people, right, you know, you never know what your time is, 158 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:50.679 right, so enjoy your life. Yeah, definitely. So that's all 159 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:52.120 the breaking is, all right. I got a couple of things. Um 160 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:56.320 uh, you got throw one from you? Yeah, Henry bass Are mot 161 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:03.840 motius motius grievous. Is that they're gonna be competing in the twenty twenty three 162 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:09.440 Phoeba Under twenty European Championship. Um uh, crevious playing for Lithuania and based 163 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:15.120 are playing for Estonia. So that starts to July the eighth. So they're 164 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:20.440 getting again getting some more work like uh like Colin Boswell got like uh, 165 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.600 Philippe borovichan and got so again. These guys out there. Look, if 166 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:28.639 you're playing in these these on these teams, you're you know, A, 167 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.879 you're pretty good. This is gonna help quite a bit. Are the more 168 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:37.440 we talk, are we talk about these players for Tommy, You're really gonna 169 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:39.840 like this team? Yeah, really gonna like this team. Um or two 170 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:43.679 days away from the Major League Baseball Draft and Chase Davis is waiting to see 171 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:48.399 where he's gonna land. It's on. It starts on Sunday, Sunday. 172 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.720 It's somebody Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah, so he's expected 173 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:56.960 going the first round. I was gonna say late maybe like now, like 174 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.200 tenth, twelfth or something like that. I think it's what I saw. 175 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:01.320 The dude's good guy. Can just play, guy, can just play? 176 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:07.200 Um uh, what's another one? Um? Oh? Aaron Judge. So 177 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:13.320 somebody asked Aaron Judge because he he he ran into the fence at Dodger Stadium, 178 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:16.799 hit us hit his toe on on a on a on a pet on 179 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.360 concrete that was kind of part of the construction there. He's hurt his toe. 180 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.039 He might have season ending surgery. They're hoping he doesn't. It was 181 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:28.080 a concrete step that it says a concrete step that separated the bullpen from the 182 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:33.120 field. Somebody asked him if he's gonna sue like soon the part of the 183 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:37.240 game playing baseball, Yeah, you know, and the gate opened, the 184 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.120 gate open, right, So yeah, so yeah he hit the gate and 185 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:43.519 and and hit his toe and he said, nah, he's not so sue 186 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:48.080 for what you can't get one hundred thousand dollars from from from the Dodgers because 187 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:50.440 you heard it go. You know, you know you throw that much away 188 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:54.159 when you wash your hands. So true. Yeah, so there was that, 189 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:58.360 Um, that's it, but uh, you know, just uh yeah, 190 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.480 I don't have much except for that what you just said. They starting, 191 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:05.720 So we're gonna come back. We're and talk with that. We're gonna 192 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:09.120 talk with Carl Garrett here a little bit again, talk about what's you know, 193 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:11.000 what the hell is going on at sell Point that she's churning out these 194 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:15.960 uh, these athletes that are But if you guys want to watch, I 195 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.200 know there's a lot of fans who listen to us. Uh, they're gonna 196 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:22.279 be the games that we're gonna showing on ESPN, NBA TV. You can 197 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:26.600 see, you know, the players play summer league games. Yeah, yeah 198 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:30.039 to tonight, Steve. You can gamble on them. I know, I 199 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:31.840 saw that. I said, who do that? Because these games are just 200 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:37.919 kind of pain. Yeah, I gotta tell you, I know a bunch 201 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:43.440 of degenerates. Okay. We went to Vegas, all right, one a 202 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.679 few see a couple of years ago for the Summer League games, and in 203 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:50.679 the morning they'd go bet on all the games they were gonna see, and 204 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:52.879 then they'd go to the games. I would say, if you're gonna bet 205 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:56.159 like they don't like established players were like they were betting on the outcomes of 206 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:01.159 the games. Oh yeah, they don't know. Yeah, and then going 207 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:03.879 to the games and just having a whale of a time, you know, 208 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:07.320 rooting for you know, rooting for the game. If I was a ballad 209 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:13.960 like Murray Man, like like points, yeah like that. I mean, 210 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:20.080 yeah, so that's degenerate stuff. That's real degenerate stuff. But I let's 211 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:24.200 just say I know some guys who did that a couple of summers ago, 212 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:26.879 a few summers ago and had a great time, just had a blast at 213 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:30.679 a real blast. Hey, the Dodgers are half a game behind the diamond 214 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:33.039 back, so they got a chance to catch him before we get to the 215 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.360 All Star break, which would be fun, get the diamond Backs out of 216 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:39.279 first place, making quite lateing them think that they got a shot at this. 217 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:43.159 There you go, Bill, that was for you listener. Bill, 218 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:46.399 he's listening, but he's gonna text us here in just a second. Okay, 219 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:50.919 So let's take the break and get ahold of Carla. 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So I uh blew Jay's over and under saying that 282 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:41.960 you were the secret sauce to to South Point with all the success, Given 283 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:47.359 what their success has been over the recent years, how would you explain what's 284 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:52.599 going on over there? I think first and foremost, I had foaches that 285 00:18:52.720 --> 00:19:00.920 believed that strength of conditioning could possibly be an X factor in their already pretty 286 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:03.839 good success. And then I had some athletes that bought into what I was 287 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.920 trying to do and how I was trying to do it. And two, 288 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:11.240 the marriage between the two of them have been great. You know, those 289 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:15.240 coaches that support me and athletes that believe in me, and the three of 290 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:18.960 us have had some pretty good success over the past few years since I've been 291 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:22.000 back. You know, Carl, I know it goes without saying that the 292 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:26.559 work behind the scenes like that, the weightlifting and the conditioning and all the 293 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:30.720 stuff that goes on in the off season and away from the field, that's 294 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:34.160 where you know, people talk about that's where you win games and whatnot, 295 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:37.359 and we've all heard stories about that. But when you're talking about high school 296 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:42.880 kids who are coming into high school and just barely learning the ropes of competing, 297 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:45.960 you know, how do you how do you get that through to them 298 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:52.279 how important all of that is. Well, so there's there's a few that 299 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:56.160 really fight me on it, and I kind of I kind of liked it 300 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:59.039 too. When you when you get on a wild horse and you ride and 301 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:02.200 you ride and you ride, and sooner or later you get that wild horse 302 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:04.720 under control. And so you know, obviously there's gonna be a few freshmen 303 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:11.400 that are overwhelmed by how I coach, and it is a difficult thing to 304 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:14.119 be a fourteen year old kid and walking to the weight room with me, 305 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:18.400 and I'm barking at you and I'm demanding excellent from you. But eventually they 306 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:22.319 figure it out, and eventually they realize that number one, I give a 307 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:26.839 damn about them, and number two, I care about this program very very 308 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:30.960 much, and South Point has been incredibly good to me. So I value 309 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:36.599 them, I'm loyal to them, and I want athletes to understand how how 310 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:41.319 much of a privilege is to be at south Point and compete. So and 311 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:45.720 you have some pretty good athletes who believe in you. Of course, yesterday's 312 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:52.319 the big announcement with Elijah Russian and Kiona will Hit. You've done some tremendous 313 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:56.240 work. Tell me about each of these kids. I'll start with Kiona. 314 00:20:56.799 --> 00:21:03.359 Keiona came obviously with a very good build already, but what he didn't know 315 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:07.559 how to do was lift, and he didn't know how to have intensity when 316 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:10.920 he lifted. And so I think I've brought both of those things to the 317 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:15.440 foregrounds. He's embraced it like nobody else. And I'll tell you what he's 318 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:19.319 put on about twenty pounds in the last six months, and I'm fearful for 319 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:22.720 kids that are going to come across that kid. This is just here, 320 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:29.799 so he's gonna be much better than he already is now. Oh and mostly, 321 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:33.200 you know the confidence that the weightland gives you, Steve, it's it's 322 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:37.119 a real different type of confidence. And it's stilly, really. I think 323 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:41.160 show in his camp when he's gone to camp. I think he's aggressive. 324 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:45.200 I think he believes in himself a whole bunch. And for me, that's 325 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:47.599 you know, that's the easiest part of it all is to teach him how 326 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:49.559 to lift. The hardest part is to get him to leave in himself. 327 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:52.440 And I'll tell you what, he's on top of the world right now, 328 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:56.920 right next to Elijah. And Elijah came in. I mean, what was 329 00:21:56.279 --> 00:22:00.839 when when he walked in the door, what did you think? I thought 330 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:07.279 he was a very shy, tall and thin kid. I thought that he 331 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:11.240 was probably going to be someone who worked fairly hard because he didn't really say 332 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:14.519 much. And you know, most of the time, if you're talking, 333 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:18.359 you're not working. And he didn't come in talking. He came in with 334 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:22.680 his head down. He put his nose down and he just started working and 335 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:27.400 working and working and working and working and basically doing everything that I asked him 336 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:32.279 to do as hard as he could possibly do it. And you know, 337 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:37.559 the two of us together in conversations where it's just been he and I I 338 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:42.039 think we've we've fumed the bond together with how successful we both think that he 339 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:45.920 can be and who he has become at this moment is not a surprise to 340 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:52.440 either one of us. How do you start a guy who's shy and probably 341 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.680 an introvert and turn him into this guy who's a defensive band who's got to 342 00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:00.559 show aggressiveness. Is it kind of built in there or is it in there 343 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:03.680 kind of just hiding. I think it's in there. It's kind of just 344 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.519 hiding. And I think that you know, in our conversations, there's been 345 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.240 times Steve or he's he's coming to my office and just sat on the floor 346 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:15.559 and he's been on his phone and I've been doing work and we just kind 347 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:19.359 of chit chat sometimes or sometimes we don't. But I think the one thing 348 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:23.119 that I did was I just talked to him, and I made him talk 349 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:27.319 back to me, and so we formed this bond that we're able to talk 350 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:32.079 and we talked about all kinds of different things, and he believes in me, 351 00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:37.000 and I've tried my hardest to turn him into what could be an unbelievable 352 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:41.839 animal this year. When you when you see an athlete like these two guys, 353 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:45.720 or let's say be Jean Robinson or the you know, the the you 354 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.480 know Bruno Fina, those guys that you know came went to your big schools, 355 00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:52.720 and when they come in as freshman or whenever you get them, when 356 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:59.440 do you know that they've got quote unquote it right to be become that level 357 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:03.480 of an athlete. Do most of them have it and you kind of know 358 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:07.000 or does it develop over time? Well, I think you actually have both. 359 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:12.599 I mean I didn't see be Than as a freshman other than on film 360 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:18.000 because I was in New Mexico working at the University of New Mexico. But 361 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:21.720 I'll tell you I saw cam Dnson as a freshman, and cam Dnson as 362 00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:26.079 a freshman, you believe that you were about to see greatness when he was 363 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:29.839 a freshman. And so I think there are some kids where you see it 364 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:33.119 immediately, and then I think there are other kids like Elijah who was one 365 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:37.119 hundred and eighty pounds his freshman year, and you're looking at a kid now 366 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:41.000 who's two hundred and fifty pounds and climbing, so you understand, you know, 367 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:45.759 the work that he's put in. I've seen pictures of Lathan Ransom as 368 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:49.079 a freshman and you probably wouldn't even recognize him compared to the way he looks 369 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:53.119 now, which obviously is just the same thing. He just puts his nose 370 00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:56.960 down and he works. Yeah, I know, there's I think it must 371 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:00.519 believing you the talking the conversations, they even know who you are. I 372 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.119 mean, I said that kind of funny, but but does that make sense 373 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:07.799 because you've been around and obviously you have some pretty good credentials with a resume. 374 00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:11.599 Um, you know, I think they kind of know who I am. 375 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:15.920 But it's more of a joke really. Anymore. I know who I 376 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.519 used to be. I don't need to to bring that to the forefront to 377 00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:23.480 prove myself to them. Every now and then, I have to show that 378 00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:27.279 I still have a little something in the tank, no matter what that may 379 00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:33.160 be. But no, I think my career is secondary to my strength and 380 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:37.920 auditioning at this point. But I do believe that my career also leads to 381 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.640 have a ton of cred in some of these young kids eyes because you know, 382 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:45.880 not to not to toot my own horn. But it's not every day 383 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:52.319 you did an Olympian. Yeah, well I believe that that is really one 384 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:56.119 of the things that some people value very very much. Well, I put 385 00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:00.200 my money on you against all of those guys, for sure. I mean 386 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.359 I'm pretty sure I would. So, so it's you know, it's it 387 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:07.400 depends on what day of the week and what it is. Every every now 388 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:10.599 and then I can do a little something. So so Carly, you know, 389 00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:12.960 over time, you know, this has become such a you know a 390 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:17.079 thing where I mean, look when when when when we were coming out, 391 00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:18.880 Yeah, you know you had to go work out in the summer for football 392 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:22.240 season and you really lifted and stuff like that. But this has become such 393 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:27.200 an important part of these guys who want to become elite athletes and they have 394 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:32.240 to do this work or they're not going to become elite athletes. Where you 395 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.640 kind of did it because you wanted to play, right, Uh, to 396 00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:40.440 tell me how that whole approach and attitude has evolved over time, particular when 397 00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:44.039 you're talking about you know, thirteen fourteen year old fifteen year old kids coming 398 00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:48.440 into high school for the first time and having to experience all this. Uh, 399 00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:52.319 well, I think obviously there's been such a change when you start to 400 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:59.000 integrate the social media aspect and you start to integrate the fact that that everybody 401 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:02.279 can see what what you perform at. You know, you can film your 402 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.400 training, you can film your games, and so it gives you such a 403 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:08.880 bigger platform, I think to showcase yourself, even even at a young age. 404 00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:11.880 You know, you got ten ye flag football, you got ten year 405 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:18.599 seven on seven and so I think there's just a more of a platform for 406 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.680 you to, for lack of a better phrase, market yourself. And so 407 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.440 in that you kind of have to if you're going to sell yourself, well, 408 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.119 you got to get the work done in order to sell yourself, because 409 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.039 if you put yourself out there on film, people are gonna know whether or 410 00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:37.200 not you're training or not by yourself. So I'm a firm belief that most 411 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.759 people who just put their heads down and work, they become the most successful. 412 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:44.680 And I think if you look through South, it's over the last you 413 00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:49.960 know, fifteen years, there the hardest working kids coming in. They retain 414 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:56.839 the working kids, the Johnny Penyas, Theo Downs, you know, kids 415 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.680 kids of that era, the Lathans, the bruno As, the hell the 416 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:07.240 Jonah Miller's. So those kids be successful on the way in, and you're 417 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.839 not surprised when they're successful on the way out. I'm also assuming that you 418 00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:15.079 you work with the other sports as well, not just football, given the 419 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.160 success of the basketball teams and you know Kelly obviously with soccer and things like 420 00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.200 that. Uh is there is there a difference in the lifting that you do. 421 00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:29.640 Oh no, listing bodies, absolutely not. You know, the baseball 422 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.440 team and the softball team they trained pularly. You know, I've had incredible 423 00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:38.000 success with softball boats at the UFA UM and here at South Point, and 424 00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:41.000 so I think I kind of have a grasp of that. But at the 425 00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:44.400 end of the day, Steve, you have to put a bar in your 426 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:48.240 hands, you have to move weight really fast, you have to sprint, 427 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.519 you have to jump, and you have to do the basics to be a 428 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:56.000 good athlete. It's not rocket science, but there is something behind it. 429 00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:00.680 If you had to give advice to any let's say, eighth grader, you're 430 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.079 getting ready to go to high school and they want to play sports at whatever 431 00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:08.400 school they go to, and it's the summer before they're going to start their 432 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:12.160 freshman year. What would you tell them to spend their summer doing as far 433 00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:18.000 as stuff like this goes, but start working out. But I think of 434 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:22.079 see what gets lost? And this whole thing is you know, year round 435 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:26.160 seven on seven, a year round aau And when the hell did these kids 436 00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:30.799 go to the movie with their friends? Yeah, other than playing video games. 437 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.359 I don't see kids kids anymore. When when I was a kid, 438 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:37.359 I was a great but I was also a great athlete because I played tennis 439 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:42.799 and soccer and softball and baseball and volleyball and basketball, and I wrote a 440 00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:47.119 B and I roller skating, and I did all kinds of different things. 441 00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:52.599 Kind of formed my athleticism. And so I would tell kids, don't focus 442 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:56.799 too much in the eighth stade. They'll be a kid there you go. 443 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.119 Yeah, so let me embarrass you real quick. Every time I see I 444 00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.039 see Carlin taught her the best athlete to ever come out of Santa Fe, 445 00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:04.680 New Mexico. And the last time I saw her, we were at Costco. 446 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:10.079 She was pretty stuff away and this is this random She's Steve New Mexico, 447 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:15.400 not just Santa Fact. Get it right, right, I told you 448 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.839 already that I put my resume up against Brian R. Luck. You're right 449 00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.559 because he's a carlsman at the time. But Carla and I teaser because we 450 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.440 were in the neighborhood right in the dale Bellum era. She went to Conia, 451 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.000 went to Nova, and her legend was legend back in the day. 452 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.359 She was twelve and she kicked the crap out of a baseball. She would 453 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.799 hit the heck out of it. You remember those days, right? Oh? 454 00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:38.640 Of course, of course. I feel like I feel like al Bundy 455 00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:45.880 from Mary Reminiscent about the good. I love the very proud. I'm very 456 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.079 proud of my career. I'm very very proud of the athlete that I was. 457 00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.680 There wasn't too many people that came out of Santa Fe, New Mexico 458 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.680 that the athletic career that I had, and so I'm incredibly proud of it. 459 00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.160 Um. It's definitely in my rear view minute window, but I remember 460 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.240 it like it was just today. So let me go with that. You 461 00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.039 were here, you can be Ubay had a long time career, and then 462 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.759 you went home. You went to Albuquerque at least worked with you and m 463 00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:15.559 and then you came back. Why did you come back? If I'm gonna 464 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.640 be honest with you, Steve, I didn't see. I was a new 465 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.119 coach that came there, and you know, he didn't treat me as well 466 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.200 as I believe that I should be treated. I don't think I got the 467 00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:29.079 respect from him that I deserved with the amount of time that I've had in 468 00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.960 this profession. And so I just said to myself that I'm I'm not going 469 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:37.960 to be treated poorly. I'm better than this. And I knew that eventually, 470 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.160 if it didn't work out there, that I could come back here and 471 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.720 somehow, through the connections I've made and my character and my reputation in this 472 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.400 town, that I could get another job. And so my first phone call 473 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:53.039 was to Todd Hotels over at Pima, who is arguably one of my greatest 474 00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:57.000 supporters, one of the best coaches I've ever worked with, and he said, 475 00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.759 Carla, the moment you come back, you can start training my team, 476 00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:05.000 and that's basically what happened. Nice and then you and then now you're 477 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.599 you're working with more than your South Point. Uh no, right now, 478 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:13.119 I'm full time. I had to unfortunately give up training coach holtals this team 479 00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:16.079 because it was just too much. I have five teams right now over at 480 00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:20.480 South Point, and I'll run the weight room. So if my days are 481 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:22.680 very very full, yeah, there you go. Fantastic. Are you're having 482 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.960 fun? Right? Oh? Listen, I've never had a bad day at 483 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.279 work. I feel very fortunate that that I fell into a profession that number 484 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:35.039 one I love very much. Number two I'm pretty good at. And number 485 00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.559 three I've had longevity in right. All right, Well, glad to hear 486 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.160 your voice, Carla. I know some people inside if you're probably listening to 487 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:45.079 us. Good luck. We'll be talking to you again. Thank you, 488 00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:46.720 Steve, appreciate Jay. All right, thank you, Carlo. Talk to 489 00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:51.400 you so great, great Carla, Garrett fun. Yeah, you know, 490 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:52.599 one of the best, right, yeah, for the best ever at Arizona. 491 00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.759 Again. You want to talk about a face of athletics at Arizona, 492 00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.160 right when you're talking about somebody who was in the Olympic, well, a 493 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:02.680 bunch of national championships, you know, you say Carl Garrett Tucson and people 494 00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:06.200 go, oh, right, I remember her when I got here in eighty 495 00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:09.039 seven, her the name, of course I grew up in that area. 496 00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:15.759 I'm a little older than her. Then you make reach those fantastic people who've 497 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:20.519 who've done so much and who did things that were maybe for some people hard 498 00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:22.960 to see, right right right, right right right. You know, you're 499 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:27.039 you're, you're, you're the you're the strength coach, and so yeah, 500 00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.359 I mean more and more you're you're hearing more about the strength coaches and the 501 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.200 impact they have, but still kind of behind the scenes kind of stuff. 502 00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:35.920 Sure, and if they do a bad job, let me it shows. 503 00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:37.640 Let me tell you Jay. And there's also she's a woman, right, 504 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:40.119 she's a woman. I mean, how much do you have to overcome to 505 00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:44.559 maybe let that happen in novel croupe or whatever where. Well, I don't, 506 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:46.839 I don't want to do this because you're a woman. And and who's 507 00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:52.440 gonna who's gonna kick your bus? Right, Okay, let's take our break. 508 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.640 We're gonna come back in. We're gonna do this, uh the athletics, 509 00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:00.920 uh college football, uh fan survey. We're gonna have fun with this. 510 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.960 So come on back and help us out with this. Give us all 511 00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:06.319 five, two zero, four, one, six, seventy four, forty. 512 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:08.719 If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you'd know it's been successful for 513 00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:13.400 nearly forty years. Now take a look back at the Ludolson era in my 514 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.960 new book, Lessons from Loot. It was a labor of love through the 515 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:19.719 eyes of twenty five former players, coaches, and friends to give insight to 516 00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.159 the coach and the man who led them, competed against them, and inspired 517 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:27.119 them. 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All right? 567 00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:12.840 So the Athletics put out a college football fan survey. Um, they 568 00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.119 just want, you know, want to know what are the issues out there 569 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:17.159 for fans right now. So we'll run through as much as this as we 570 00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:21.039 can. I think it's kind of fun. I'll submit this and we'll see 571 00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.599 they they'll they'll do a results later on. They said, this survey is 572 00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:29.280 on until Thursday. Um, you have to be a subscriber to The Athletic, 573 00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:30.719 which I am. So I'm gonna put this under my name too, 574 00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:35.440 even though this is gonna be our collective opinion here, and if you have 575 00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:37.719 some stuff that you want to add to this, give us a call. 576 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.719 We'll we'll take it. So let's so the first question is what is your 577 00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:46.679 attitude or attitude toward the future of college football with very concerned being a one 578 00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:52.840 up to ten being very excited. Um, I'm just gonna say I'm leaning 579 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:58.360 towards I'm kind of down the middle of leaning more towards the very concerned because 580 00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:00.280 I'm just, um, I'm just concerned about too, you know, with 581 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.760 all the with all the you know, all those seeing all these things that 582 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.800 are happening. You know, I'm concerned, still excited. What's the number? 583 00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:09.920 What's the number? One? One through ten? What'd you get it? 584 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:13.679 I haven't given it anything. We're gonna give it. Okay, that's 585 00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:17.360 that's what do you think? I'm along your lines? Five? Maybe a 586 00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:22.119 four or six six six. Yeah, we'll give that a sick And I 587 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.440 wouldn't even know what would get it to seven, you know, because everything 588 00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:30.519 you said spot on for me. Right Yeah? Well here okay, and 589 00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:32.119 here's here. Well here's the next question. What do you think is the 590 00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:37.679 biggest issue facing college football? Managing rosters and transfer portal, managing name, 591 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:44.280 image and likeness, conference re alignment, lack of parody or other il Yeah, 592 00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:47.679 nil, And I don't know. The money is crazy and we don't 593 00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:50.840 even know what the money is, right, and you know, you just 594 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:52.679 assim it's crazy. Whether there's a lot of issues with n I am right 595 00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:55.559 sure, how much money is involved, who's getting it, where's it coming 596 00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:58.760 from? All of them? I feel like, yeah, and that's gonna 597 00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:02.280 have continue to have a huge packed on college football. All right, Um, 598 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:07.679 next question, how do you feel about Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC 599 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:12.159 and USC and UCLA joining the Big Ten? One is hate it, ten 600 00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:17.480 is love it. I'm a one. I'm a one. I hate it. 601 00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.920 I hate it because it's caused all this other stuff. Yeah, I'll 602 00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:24.960 go with you. I think it's stupid the Texas and Oklahoma in the SEC. 603 00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:29.519 When they were doing just fine. They couldn't. They weren't even winning 604 00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:31.320 enough, particularly Texas in the Big twelve, And now they're going to the 605 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:35.440 SEC, which screws everything up. How do they think they're going to get 606 00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:37.639 better? And USC and us LA in the in the Big ten mix zero 607 00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.760 sense and we'll always be zero sense. Well, it's the first step of 608 00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:44.920 what you gonna happen. I say, I say three, you say three, 609 00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.719 you say it four. Well I say one, So let's go through 610 00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.199 the three. We'll go three on now, all right, um, how 611 00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:59.360 does your enjoyment of consuming college football now compared to ten years ago? Steve 612 00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.719 Yours is going to be like a one as I enjoy it much less, 613 00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:08.519 two as I enjoy it much more. But one you're one. One I 614 00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:14.000 enjoy it about the same as I have. So I'm gonna say like five 615 00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:15.599 because well wait, wait, one to ten? Yeah, well you said 616 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:20.519 one. Two you shaid to one to ten. So one is I enjoy 617 00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:23.119 it much less? Ten as I enjoy it much more. I'm up. 618 00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:27.440 Five, I'm right down. Then I'm about where I was, where I've 619 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.800 always been. Yeah, I thought I was just one and two. Yeah, 620 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:34.440 five is good? Okay, I'm indifferent to it because it's the same. 621 00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:37.440 Yeah. Do you find it difficult or too expensive to access the games 622 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:43.599 you want to watch? I say no, I agree, yes, yeah 623 00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:50.199 pretty easy going to games isn't horribly expensive? Yeah? Okay. Should players 624 00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:58.400 get a share of conference television revenue? No? I think they should get 625 00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:01.039 paid, But I don't think they should get a senage right of revenue. 626 00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:05.400 Right, they've already those athletes, We cover them, We know who they 627 00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:08.280 are. They're doing very well. Yeah, okay, this is did you 628 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:10.719 know them? You know them, you played with them? Yeah, um, 629 00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.800 they're doing even when they weren't getting paid, they were doing okay, 630 00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.920 and not just because of college. But they get a lot of perks anyway. 631 00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:22.440 Yeah, and this spelling me being too old for But but no, 632 00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:28.320 they don't know yes, yes or no? Okay, yes or no. 633 00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:31.320 Would you like to see players become employees of their universities? No? No, 634 00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:36.639 no, no, no, that's too much work. That's university all 635 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:40.599 right. What is the ideal size of the college football playoff two, four, 636 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.840 eight, twelve or more than twelve sixteen? You think something? I 637 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:49.960 like what they've done with the twelve team tournament. I like what they've done 638 00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:53.119 with the twelve. Okay, with the twelve. Yeah, that's the next 639 00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:57.880 Yeah, twelve is the only option? All right? Who is your pick 640 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:02.599 to win the national title in twenty twenty three? There's a there's a whole 641 00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:07.800 list. Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, Florida State, 642 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.840 USC Notre Dame, Clemson, Texas, Washington, Penn State, or 643 00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:20.000 other. Who's your r pick? Yeah? I want to say Georgia three 644 00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:22.480 in a row? Yeah, see, I had to pick against them just 645 00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.639 because they're not winning three in a row. Okay, okay, So who's 646 00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:36.000 your pick? Oh? You have mine, So I'm gonna go Okay, 647 00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:39.719 I'm gonna go with Obama. They're the prohibitive view. You agree with Bamma? 648 00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:43.639 Yeah, okay, it's a boring parent. I think there's gonna be 649 00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:45.760 one the two. Okay, we'll pick up either or who's wrong, right 650 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:50.840 exactly? We'll pick Alabama? Okay. A couple more questions. Which first 651 00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:57.199 year Power five coach is most likely to succeed at his new school Kenny Dillinghammad 652 00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:00.360 a Su, Hugh Freeze, Auburn, Scott Centerfie, Cincinnati, Don Sanders, 653 00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:06.039 Colorado, Rent Key at Georgia Tech, Jeff Braum Louisville, Zach Barnett 654 00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:10.599 Mississippi State, Matt Rule at Nebraska, Ryan Walters, Perdue, Troy Taylor, 655 00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:15.079 Stanford, Luke Fickle Wisconsin. What's the who's gonna what's the first the 656 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:22.320 Power five coach most likely to succeed at his new school most likely to succeed? 657 00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:29.519 Um, I know, I'm thinking either Matt Rule or Luke Fick. 658 00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:31.440 I was gonna say, I was gonna say Matt Rule. I think he's 659 00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:35.119 a pretty good thing. I think he's a good college coach, I think. 660 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:38.239 And Nebraska is just kind of screwed up. Yeah, it's waiting to 661 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:40.800 be good again, right right, right, And that's for that reason, 662 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.639 yeah, him, Yeah, we can go with Matt Rule because my relaire, 663 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:52.199 there was one other one looked fickle at Wisconsin. Okay, No, 664 00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.519 I think the Nebraska one's good. Okay, let's go Matt Rule, all 665 00:44:55.599 --> 00:45:01.519 right? Which first year Power five coach is least likely to succeed at his 666 00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:06.199 new school? And it's all the same guys. Kenny Dillingham at a s 667 00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:09.519 U, Hugh Freeze Auburn, Scott Sadderfield, Cincinnati, Deon Sanders Colorado, 668 00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:15.039 Brent Key at Georgia Tech, Jeff Bram Louisville, Zach Garnet Misissippi State, 669 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:19.599 Matt Rule Nebraska, Ryan Walters, Perdue, Troy Taylor's stand for Luke Fickle 670 00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:24.519 at Wisconsin. Least likely I've got three, I've got two. Um, 671 00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:28.840 maybe I think he's gonna You think he's gonna crash and burn? Yeah, 672 00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:30.960 I think you know, expectations are a lot higher than probably than you to 673 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:37.400 be. So I'm gonna go. I wanna go to Dillingham Old Georgia Tech. 674 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:45.679 I'm gonna say I'm mine are Georgia Tech, Dion or um uh Sadderfield 675 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:50.400 at Cincinnati because there was something going on there. You know that they had 676 00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:52.760 the perfect coach, right. Cincinnati is not gonna be an easy place to 677 00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.960 win because now they're in the Big twelve on top of that. But to 678 00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:01.320 me of the I want to say Dion Sanders because you know, because of 679 00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:06.159 his ego, I wanted to get a get a taste of what it looks 680 00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:08.679 like, you know when when you don't do so well. But it's hard 681 00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:12.719 to win a gearge attack, right, And that's why, and that's why 682 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:17.159 it's really no matter who's George Attack Attack. Okay, we're going to Georgia 683 00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:21.880 Tech. All right, all right, all right, And the last question, 684 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:27.920 are you rooting for Dion Sanders just to seed or fail at Colorado? 685 00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:32.599 I'm reading from so so Mike, because he's just an interesting character. Jay, 686 00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:35.079 I don't know if you believe this. I don't. I don't know 687 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:37.519 about this with you, Jason. Um, I watch I see I don't 688 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:42.800 watch it purposely, but I see his stuff on Twitter, and and he's 689 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.800 he's a smart dude. If he's a marketing he's the dude who's selling you 690 00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.320 shoes in the back of his car, right he's and he's selling shoes. 691 00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.039 Yeah, and look at again the guy as we as we say, we 692 00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:55.159 say it in a different way. But the guy who can sell poop to 693 00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:58.840 a goose. Yeah, yeah, and that's I've never heard that but okay, 694 00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:01.840 okay, you've never heard that one. I use it all the time. 695 00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.519 I'm not I'll use it, but okay, that's the guy. So 696 00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:12.679 I think that the kids are gonna the kids are gonna play for him, 697 00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:16.000 right. The question is does he have good kids? And the correct they 698 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:20.119 couldn't be worse than it have been. The last two or three years, 699 00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:22.599 so they couldn't be the worse. It's like Jed. I mean, no 700 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.599 one thought Jed would do this. Yeah, what's the thing that Jed the 701 00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:29.639 dion can't do this? Well, here's the thing. I'm not rooting for 702 00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:34.639 him to fail because I'm not that guy, right, what who kidnapper jay 703 00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.840 O? Come on? Okay, if Dean Sanders was at a SU I'm 704 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.719 rooting for him to fail. Okay, I'm never rooting for him to fail 705 00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:45.880 at Colorado. You know, I think he look, I think he's good 706 00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:51.119 for packed football. Oh, people are talking about the packs. He's He's 707 00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:57.079 created a buzz around Colorado, and therefore he's created a buzz around uh around 708 00:47:57.119 --> 00:48:00.639 the PAC twelve. So I'm not rooting for him to fail. I'm not 709 00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:04.360 one hundred percent sure. I want to root off the charts for him to 710 00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.079 succeed and go ten and ten and two in his first season. Yeah, 711 00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:10.039 but I'm not sitting here saying I hope you go on twelve. I'm not 712 00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:14.039 doing that. Yeah. I think this. I think the sub subov competition 713 00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:16.880 he's gonna have to face is not gonna be I do think that other coaches 714 00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:23.639 are hope are are pushing for him to succeed. There's there's there's some above 715 00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:28.800 Steve, Well, there's there's Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot 716 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:32.400 of coaches and people out there who kind of want to see Dion put in 717 00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:38.079 this no question, no question. So you know, but it's so far, 718 00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:43.280 you know, his life and his career has been one win after another. 719 00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:47.360 Sure, sure, he's his success doesn't fall accidentally from the sky. 720 00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:51.280 Right, he's good. He's good. He's good. He's good at stuff. 721 00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:52.000 I mean, you win, you if you're a winner, you're not 722 00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:55.000 a win, right, He's good at stuff. So I'm gonna say succeed. 723 00:48:55.239 --> 00:49:00.440 Yeah, okay, so that's that's our that's our call. All right, 724 00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.199 let's take the call before I submit. Hi, you're on the air 725 00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:08.559 and I on the ball. Hi. One real quick thing about Dion Sanders 726 00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:14.679 that you guys are taking a new place. Okay, go ahead, go 727 00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:19.000 ahead, you're you're on the air, so go ahead. Well hisself, 728 00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:23.440 his health, Oh yes, well yeah, look, yeah, I you 729 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:27.039 know, I don't want anything bad to happen to him as far as that 730 00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:29.519 goes. No, I don't want anything bad to happen either. But what 731 00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:34.880 he's been through. You don't recover at that age real well from something like 732 00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.119 that. Yeah, that shouldn't be hard. So your point is what just 733 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:45.079 keep that into into check or yeah, keep that into consideration. He doesn't 734 00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:50.440 have the mobility to go out and recruit right now, even though that's his 735 00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:54.280 main job that he I'm sure he's not the only one doing that. Good 736 00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:59.480 point. So let me ask you different being on the field all the time 737 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:04.920 on your seed. Um, so let me ask you have you made Let 738 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:12.800 me ask you have you been impressed with his situation so far? Um? 739 00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.000 I mean, do you like what he's doing? Okay? No, either 740 00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:20.480 you think you don't write No, and that's understandable. No, that, 741 00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:22.119 that's and that. And there's a lot of people who feel that way. 742 00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:25.159 I don't know if they're rooting against them, but they a lot of crap. 743 00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.679 You're not a believer. You're not a believer. Thank you for you. 744 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:37.840 Listen to the show and don't like craph No, I like you guys 745 00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:45.599 crap. But um, you know, like right know me what you could 746 00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:50.159 do? Did you did you? What did you feel about Jed when he 747 00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:54.599 first got here? My son helped me to give up my season tickets, 748 00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:59.239 and I said, well, I'm the band supporter. I'm an alumni band 749 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:01.679 person. And I said, no, I don't go for jids the football. 750 00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:06.719 So I'm keeping my tickets and I've been pleased. I've been happy. 751 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:09.280 Good for you. It was better than what we had. I stapped through 752 00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:14.280 the macvic. I sapped through someone. So did you give up on your 753 00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:20.239 son? He didn't go that much laughter here with me, but you know, 754 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:22.800 hey, there you go. All right, Hey, thank you for 755 00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:28.800 your call. We appreciate it. I believe in Jed, not my son. 756 00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:34.760 Fun he's a blowhard. Well he is, he definitely. I mean, 757 00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:37.360 that's a that's a perfect way to put it. But the question is, 758 00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:39.719 because of that, are you pulling for him or not pulling for him, 759 00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.920 or you're not pulling for him because of that. I'm not. I'm 760 00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.639 not, again, as I said, I'm not pulling against him, because 761 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:49.280 if he falls flat on his face, that's also bad for the Pac twelve. 762 00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:52.119 But you know, if he gets put in his place a little bit 763 00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:57.519 and realizes, you know, what it takes to win at this level and 764 00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:00.480 be good at this level, and maybe that's a good thing, and you 765 00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:05.599 know, he'll find his footing. That's no pun intend I thank you will. 766 00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:07.280 Yeah, I'm good. Call. Thank you very much for calling. 767 00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:08.639 Hey, that was a lot of fun. She didn't see her name. 768 00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:12.440 We've met her color for you. Yeah all right. So that's it. 769 00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:14.800 That's uh, that's what we got. Gives a fun week. Uh. 770 00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:19.840 Congratulations again to Arizona and Jet Fish on on the recruiting and Carl Garrett, 771 00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:22.199 thanks so much for being here. Doug Tameron, thanks for it's being here. 772 00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:22.599 We'll see you on Monday.