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don't get so really Doe Matzille Goti, welllcome everybody, here we go.

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I thought we'd start the show today
with some Able Blood, their epic

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track mental note, because their name
came up a couple of times on the

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show yesterday. We had Hands of
Spite in studio with us yesterday as our

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musical guest, and uh, I
think I think they were a referral from

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able Blood and Adam Jocelyn from Able
Blood was in the etch Atram, so

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I figured we'd play that track.
I know it's a little long, but

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it does to me. It doesn't
feel like it. That's an eleven and

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a half minute song, but it's
not like uh in a Goda Devita,

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which you know if you listen to
the long version, it feels like the

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long version, but no mental note, man, that's uh, you just

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kind of become You just get lost
in it, or at least I do.

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So I love that. Welcome Everybody. It is Matt Connerton Unleashed and

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we are five from the studios of
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and Glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast ninety seven. If

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you're in Manchester, and hello to
all of our online listeners across the nation

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and around the globe. You can
go to my website Matt Connerton dot com

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for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact info,

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show archives, etcetera, etcetera.
Did I say Comcasts? Did I say?

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Did I slip and say ninety seven
again? I meant channel six.

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I can only say six if I
actually stop and think about what I'm saying.

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We're on Comcast Channel six in Manchester, not ninety seven. Uh.

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One of these days, I'm gonna
I'm gonna one of these weeks, I'm

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gonna go an entire week without getting
it wrong. Uh. We speed a

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musical guest. By the way,
we have a great musical guest coming up

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today in the second hour, the
band After the Winter will be here with

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us in studio and we're gonna play
some of their music later and we're gonna

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talk with those guys. I think
they're but they won't be here right at

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the top of the hour. I
think they're They're Eta. Last I knew

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was about five twenty. Apparently they
are stuck in traffic, but they're on

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their way here, so so I'm
really looking forward to meeting these Guys' fair

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warning, it's gonna get loud and
heavy. They're not gonna play live in

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studio, They're just coming in to
talk, but we are going to feature

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some of their music. And I
really love it. This this track,

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fourteen hundred BC. It's called and
it's so good. It's so good if

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you like that kind of thing.
Not everyone's gonna like it. Some people

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don't like the growling vocals, but
when done right, I think it sounds

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great. So and these guys do
it right. So I'm looking forward to

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meeting them. So they will be
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so we look forward to that.
Let's see. Today is Thursday,

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by the way, so I do
want to remind everybody, of course,

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Thursday is Trivia Night at the Hop
Knot in the Brady Sullivan right across the

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street at one thousand Elm Street.
They've got those delicious gourmet pretzels, they've

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got an assortment of craft beer,
and on Thursdays they have trivia Night hosted

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by the Great Broderick Lang. So
if you are going to join them,

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though I strongly recommend to you that
you call ahead to reserve a spot for

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trivia, because that is a very
very popular feature there. Those spots fill

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up very quickly, so call ahead. But unless you're just going to show

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up for some pretzels and beer,
in which case no need to call ahead.

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But if you want to reserve your
spot for trivia for your team,

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I do suggest calling ahead for trivia
night at the hop Knot if you would

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like to join us. Six zo
three two five zero six zero seven is

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a studio line six zo three two
five zero six zero seven. You can

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also text me at six one seven
nine one seven four four seven six.

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I'm on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt at matt

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Connerton dot com, and of course
you can interact endo Pine in the Facebook

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live chat. But the best thing
to do so that we can hear and

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enjoy your dulcet tones is to give
us a call at six three two five

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six zero seven. And by the
way, I'm glad I saw this.

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I wish I had seen it sooner, but I'm glad I saw it before

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I got too much further. The
hop Knot has posted on social media.

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Trivia is canceled for tonight, but
we'll resume next week. But the hop

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Knot is still open four pm to
nine pm, so so go go with

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there anyway, enjoy some pretzels and
beer. But yes, trivia and night

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tonight is canceled. Don't bother calling
ahead. Don't need to call ahead if

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you're just going for pretzels and beer. Let's see. I'm just looking to

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see if there's anything else the Hopknot
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tell you all about. Oh,
Saturday night. You know they have live

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music on Saturday Night, the great
Kevin Horn, who has been a guest

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on this show. He is going
to be performing there, so definitely,

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I think, uh, it doesn't
say the time here that he's playing.

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I think I think they usually play
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Saturdays. But Kevin's amazing when he
was on this show, he came in,

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he brought his acoustic guitar, he
played a bunch of tunes live for

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us, and just a great guy
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yeah, go to the Hopnot Saturday
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a great guy and a very talented
musician, and he used to be in

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a band called the Stone Road Band, and we occasionally feature some of their

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music on the show too, So
really really good stuff. Six o three

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two five six seven six three two
five six seven. Eric Street is asking

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in the chat room does the hopknot
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don't remember seeing coffee there. Doesn't
mean they don't have it, And I'm

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not really a coffee drinker myself,
so it might be that they do.

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You know what. They probably don't
though, because you've got A and E

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coffee right next door, and I
don't think they necessarily want to. Oh,

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I forgot to mute my phone.
That's embarrassing. Happens about once every

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couple of months. I'll forget to
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about that. Yeah, Jenny said
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serve or will get you A and
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bars serve coffee. Uh, that
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the reason I happen to know that
is because when the last miracle and miracle

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on Elm Street that we did,
that was that the bonfire. Uh.

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Jenny tried to get coffee there and
there was no coffee to be had.

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Pat told her, Nope, we
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for obvious reasons. Well, they
didn't have it at the bonfire. Uh,

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Jenny says. In the chat room
they have an agreement with U oh

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with and D Coffee. The two
businesses are super tight. Yeah, so

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they'll they'll they might catch a coffee
from A and D, but they don't

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serve. They don't serve their own
coffee at the Hopno, So we'll see

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who else we have in the chat
room and then we'll get into some stuff.

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Carol Za Warrowitz joins us in the
chat. Hello, Carol. Jay

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Fed of course from the great state
of Vermont, joins us and says,

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good afternoon everyone. A. Jenny, as I mentioned, is in the

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chat and says shalom peeps. And
of course I mentioned John Hopwood is in

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there. Isaac Banks says, hello
there, Matt, good afternoon, Hello

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Isaac, Good afternoon, gen coffee. How are you doing, says Isaac

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Banks, easyg Eric Gagnan says happy
Friday Eve. Yes, Isaac Banks says,

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I heard you had a band on
your show yesterday was hands of spite.

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Is that right, Yes, hands
of spite. We're here. Great

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guys. I really enjoyed meeting them, and they played live in studio sounded

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amazing, and we featured some studio
tracks as well. Eric Pilcher joins us

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in the Facebook live chat. Of
course, you can hear every Friday Eric

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Pilcher's classic film review and this week
it is George A. Romero's Night of

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the Living Dead and Shannon is on
the line. High Shannon, Hello,

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Hey, I think all bars or
whatever should should have a little jar of

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instant at least coffee, because maybe
somebody goes in these places, you know,

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for the atmosphere and not the beer. Yeah, I'm saying I do

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if you're not a drinker, but
you want to be there and participate and

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whatever. Sure, yeah, so
there, okay, okay, uh yeah,

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I'm saving something for tomorrow. Oh
all right, Well we will Friday,

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Well we will wait with bated breath, bated breath whatever that means.

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I've never understood that expression of what
it means either look it up. Well,

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right, Shannon, but didn't you
get you didn't get Matt Juno's my

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mother is still camera in there?
Huh. You didn't listen in the morning

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show. Huh, I heard part
of it. I don't know what you're

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talking about. They were talking about
having a murder mystery thing. And you

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know, I have to I don't
like fancy pants haters out there. I

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don't have a house in a garage
and a pool and walls that are thick

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that I can drank my music at
seven o'clock in the morning. So you

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know, I don't have a phone
attached to my hip either, so it

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takes me a while to get to
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but anyway, I had said,
uh, a riddle rap is it?

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Okay? I know you know this
quote or at least hoppy does I know

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this much? A riddle wrapped in
a mystery inside of an enigma? Yep,

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I've heard that. I just I
just found out who coined that phrase,

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just like a few months ago.
I didn't realize that. Okay,

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Church show, right, did he
right? All right? I have no

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idea. I've never looked it up. I couldn't tell you. And and

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it well what I had hurt right, I was greeting said that he had

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said that, and it was in
regards to Russia. Now if that's not

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right. Then it's not right.
But if it is good and hoppy,

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you will tell you if he's in
there, John Hoppitt isn't there. He

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said it was Chubby Checker. Who
Chubby Checker? I think he says it

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in the twist? Yeah, not
not the original twist, but in let's

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twist, you know, let's twist
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a riddle wrapped in in the enigma
side of mystery? Huh. How's happy

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doing? I have no idea.
I call him hoppy. I didn't ask

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him. I hope he's I hope
he's well though. Of course we all

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do well, not all of us, but most of us do it.

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Hm. Well, sometimes he's cheerful, sometimes he's grumpy, but we love

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him. We do love him.
Everybody's grumpy sometimes. Mmmm. That's for

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Robbio. This morning, he's he's
got to take a day off. Why

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is that? Because well, either
the sound was off or he was hitting

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those keys hard, because I don't
know, I don't know which, but

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he wasn't. He wasn't. I
could just tell he wasn't playing himself.

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He wasn't himself today. Mmmm?
Who was he? He was someone else

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that's set up. Probably I don't
know, tired once a break, doesn't

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need flack, and once to get
his job done, okay, once in

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a while. I don't know.
I can't speak for him. Nope.

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Is he in there? Nope.
I haven't seen him face the Book of

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Faith. I haven't seen his name, okay, because I don't want to

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think or feel for people either,
right, don't think or feel for people.

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No, you can feel for someone, but don't don't I hate it

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with someone? Oh I figured,
I guess I saw it. Don't do

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that, right, don't figure guests
or think that's what you're saying. Right,

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ask the question. Don't assume another
word. M So, what you

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got going on today? Oh?
Just doing a radio show? And who's

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playing to Oh that's why you met. After the winter, we'll be here

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after. They're not playing live,
they're just coming into talk and we're going

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to feature some of their music.
And who's playing with the marsh code or

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or guitar string or something. I
don't know that. No, see,

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I can't sense it is over again? What was that? I don't know

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what you're talking about, Shannon.
You don't hear that. I hear so

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I hear a horrible phone connection with
a lot of static. How about no,

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No, I don't well I heard, uh, I heard a couple

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of clicks. Was someone tapping your
phone? Yes, well that's not good.

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No, it's just no and and
I just wanted to say, I

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know he didn't take it this way, but bad another word. But I

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just I had his back. I
was just you know, I didn't know

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if he's that is the weather a
lot, he'd not easily have to stay

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high and bye bye, okay,
all right, Shannon, right, good

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bye, al right, bye bye, all right, Well that was Shannon.

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Uh six O three two five zero
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If you'd like to call us six
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Uh, please no loud sounds into
the phone, though, if we

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could, uh, let's see,
oh we're getting a call. Let's see,

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all right, welcome to Matt Connerton
unleashed. Who's this? I thought

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that Eric Pulture calls? Then after
I do you can get a trifect a

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trifecta of what uh you can fill
in the enigma of the trifecta. Okay,

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hey, is it true that ugly
fat Joe the slob has been calling

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your show. You know. Well
I heard him the like a couple of

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weeks ago or three weeks ago.
But did he really call in like just

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yesterday or the day before that.
Oh, he calls now and then.

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But we don't really, we don't
talk about him. I made promises that

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we don't. We don't talk about
him when he's not when he's not joining

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us. So yeah, that's flatulent
during personal calls as he is on his

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own. Don't worry, don't worry
about him. What else is on your

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mind? John? I don't know, but somebody sent me a clip of

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somebody we were not going to was
on the do not talk about list,

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and it just brought back gold antagonisms. You know, Oh, I see,

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I see, Yes, I understand. Is there anything going on in

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politics today? No? Nothing.
I can't believe how Paul, how boring

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politics as these days? There's just
nothing. Yeah, there was really no,

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not really No. There was a
Republican debate last night. There was,

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yes, a a vice presidential slash
looking for a cabinet position in the

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Trump administration. Debate. Very exciting, lots of people talking over each other

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and interrupting each other, very productive, learned a lot some quarters of the

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media trying to push Nicky Haley.
Has she got any traction in the polls,

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I mean the New Hampshire primaries in
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sixth, I'm not quite sure.
Maybe Eric Kiltrick in Collin because Ayah was

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just before that, and I know
he's getting ready for the caucuses. Caucus.

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You hardly know us. I don't
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No, not kiddy, I don't
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I know the DNC wants South Carolina
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know what the status of that is
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there's not going in New Hampshire primary
for Democrats because the DNC is demanding it

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be held at a certain time,
right, and the Republican primary is going

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on first in the nation primary after
the Iowa caucuses, which should have been

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gotten rid of. Sorry Eric Pilcher, because they're just a debacle. Oh,

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I don't think. I don't.
I don't. I don't think he'd

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argue with you. I don't think
he'd argue with you. He's participated in

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that before. He also, I
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but from what I'm hearing and nobody's
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the Secretary of State is only going
to be running the Secretary of State

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of New Hampshire, which runs election, is only going to be running on

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New Hampshire primary day because that's state
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of the DNC, have their primary
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Hampshire becomes third in the primaries,
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Saturday. It's really it's all screwing
because you know, Joe Biden never did

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well in New Hampshire, came in
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he's strong armed the party into getting
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on the ballot new Hampshire. Our
old friend RFK Junior now says he's going

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to run as their Libertarians. Wait, wait, his on the he is

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running as a Democrat. I was
gonna say. He hasn't announced switching to

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libertarian, although I know there is
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and that's who he is. He's
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state House. People that aren't in
New Hampshire and need understand that everybody in

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New Hampshire has been has either been
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or know somebody it's directly related to
one, yes, or has slept

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with one, or you know at
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with one at the very least.
Yeah. And one of the benefits of

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being a state Rep in New Hampshire
there isn't much. You only get two

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hundred, one hundred dollars a year
and you have to pop up eighty four

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bucks, you know for various things
your license, played this and map,

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so you get fourteen bucks a year. Is during the quadrannie of New Hampshire

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presidential primary presidential candidates, will you
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And incredibly RK Jr. Has had
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like I said before, you know
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ex wife. They live in Maine. They originally from Orange County, California,

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which is notorious for a John Birch
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math and they hire he hired right
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Republicans to be in his campaign.
I mean, it's just what we'd call

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in the army, a cluster,
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there is nobody's talking except Arnie Arnisson. Arnie Arniston is the only person talking

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about the Democrats. I guess I
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DNC because they don't want to cross
Biden in the DNC because they hold the

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money. Look what they did the
Carol scha Port or a congressman, incumbent

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congresswoman many years ago. They just
withheld money from there. Why what was

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there? Why did they withhold money? They said that she wasn't going to

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win, and then she bost by
like ten times in votes. Remember her

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and Frank ginto the old Congress.
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but you notice no dem We the
of the four people that represent in

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New Hampshire in Congress, two in
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none of them were talking about this. But according to Arnie Arnison, Secretary

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of State's not going to hold a
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hard to get information on all this
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the state law is and the second
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But obviously, so we have a
state law that says we have to

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go first. But the other part
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the primary, so both the Democratic
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I don't know why would this Acretary
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that would cause oh yeah, absolutely. I don't know if there are any

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states that that split it up,
actually, But because that's part of what

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has fascinated me about this whole conundrum
is that it seems to me that for

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New Hampshire to allow somebody else to
go first, everybody has to be on

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board. And why would the Republicans
go along with that? The Republicans aren't

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going to go along with that.
Governor Sanna is not going to go along

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with that just because the DNC says
so. So then what happens? You

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know, Well, Matt, I'm
glad you asked, because I'm going to

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call up the Secretary of State's office
on Monday, because you know, Friday,

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you know, that's a good day
to take off, particularly in your

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bureaucrat. I mean, it's so
boring even you know, you get used

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to those two to three hour days. By the time Friday roles are on

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you screw it right us in the
army and you know, kind of kind

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of deureaucratic job. And Monday,
maybe Tuesday would be the best time you'll

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be there. Tuesday, when should
you take your car and to get it

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fixed? Friday? You know what, the fixing it they'll screw up.

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Monday they'll probably be coming off through
a long drunk. You know, Tuesday,

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Wednesday seems to be okay, Tuesday, Wednesday. What about Thursday?

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Today's Thursday? Why not today?
Yeah, it's a little too late because

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until I started listening to Washan and
I didn't even think about this, right,

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you know, because it was Chubby
Checker was actually talking about the new

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AMBS or primary, which is an
enigma wrapped in a riddle, wrapped in

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the soul of all you know what, Chuck berries, Oh, I thought

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you were gonna say the soul of
America part of the lyrics song on one

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of your shows by yet another person
we can't talk about well, called them

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Chubby Checkers, the famous Checkers stage
right oh yeah, Christ. You know,

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I don't mean to bring the Lord's
name in vain on the crucifix the

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other day with you know, being
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We just have crosses. We don't
have like the bleeding, broken body of

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Jesus on the cross, uh,
in our depictions. But this is something

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we got to figure out. Oh
you didn't know that Protestants don't have the

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crucifix. No, I had no
idea. Yeah, I consider a crucifix

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is across with Christ hanging on it. You know. When I was a

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kid, everybody's a Catholic. In
Manchester, there were four Protestants the entire

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city, you know, which I
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to have those bleeding realistic ones,
really literally gory. Yeah. Yeah,

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but I'm just babbling now. I
think got caught a disease or something.

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Oh no, it's it's time to
shuttle me out with some like some soft

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music or something. Oh, we
will, we will get to the We

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gotta find out what's happening. Is
there going to be a balance? Yeah?

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Never registered democrat, I keep yeah, I keep wondering about this.

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Yeah, Arnie's a good person.
I'm sure she knows that she's talking about.

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But good god, you know ye
okay, Matt, you know,

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okay, hohm all right, John, Well, I appreciate the call.

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Yes, it seems to be a
brain fog. It seemed to come over

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me. Oh that's all right,
you're fine. Well, you did say

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you think you might have caught a
disease, so you should probably seek medical

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attention. Yes, I was really
looking at the Drudge Report. That was

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enough to make anybody diseased. I
understand. But yeah, we're not going

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to talk about La grand darrage,
all right, John, certainly that was

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that was Rusty stab, the old
Montreal outfielder. Oh okay, I know

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it means means different things. Okay. I'm sorry I didn't call in and

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complain about the horrifying Red Sox uniforms
when Kyle was on the show. But

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you know, please give me some
credit for some self restraint and I didn't.

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Good for you. Yes, we're
very proud. We're very proud of

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you. Take care, all right, John, Thanks for the call.

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Bye bye. All right. That
was the great John Hopwood or John C.

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Hopwood, And that opens up the
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if you would like to join us
and we'll catch up with the Facebook live

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chat here as well. John also
would be posted in the Facebook live chat.

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I'm watching Morton Downey Junior right now
multitasking. I saw Morton Downey Junior

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live. It was I think it
was that kind of the height of his

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fame with the Morton Downey Junior show. Of course, Cisco's way back,

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and he actually did a tour.
He took the show on tour and he

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went to the Capitol what was it
called at that time, because they changed

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the name at one point, the
Capitol Theater and Conquered and yeah, he

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would base and it was basically just
his It was very similar to his television

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show, but just a live show
on stage. And he had this bit

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where somebody would come out on stage
and they would pretend to be a local

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city official and they would read to
him this thing about please keep your language

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clean, we don't want any profanity, and then uh like, mort would

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grab the paper out of their hand
and swear at them and then crumple up

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the paper and throw it at them. And apparently he did that show,

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John Hopwood said in the chat room
too, I was just listening to Howard

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Stern on a Monday show Belch and
B and s ob while talking about Dana

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Plato killing herself after being on his
show the previous Friday. The prerogatives of

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the earstwhile king of all Media,
Isaac Banks says, good afternoon. Hashtag

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Eric Pilcher, how are you doing? Maybe you can do another movie review

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of nineteen eighty seven Ruskies. I
don't even know that movie starring Whip Hubbly

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Leaf Phoenix before he was Joaquin Phoenix
and Susan Walters. M alrighty, I'm

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sure Eric will take that under advisement. Isaac Banks all so suggested, Hi

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hashtag Grik Pilcher, you have the
list of the movie review of nineteen eighty

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eights Jack's Back, right, Yeah, I still don't know that. I

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still don't know that movie. Let's
see. John Hopwood says. Arms control

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advocates fear the worst and worry existing
guardrails offer insufficient checks given the existential risks.

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Critics call self operating weapons killer robots
or slaughter bots because they are powered

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by artificial intelligence and can technically operate
independently to take out targets without human help.

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That does sound frightening. Isaac Banks
says, Oh, now you're talking

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Isaac Banks. He says, Matt
Connerton, I've seen a film of the

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movie of Revenge of the Nerds three. The next generation is late Martin Downey.

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Oh, Martin Downey Junior is in
that movie. I don't remember that.

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I don't know if i've even I
loved the first movie when I was

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a kid. Uh, and the
second one I thought was okay, and

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then it kind of degraded over time. But uh, let's see. Shannon

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is back on the line. High
Shannon, Hello, Hello. I'm sorry

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if I put Hoppy into a trance
or something. But sometimes, you know,

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I've said this before. You don't
you don't learn if you don't ask.

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And I was just wondering if you
know. I figured I know the

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people that are on the Book of
Face. I don't know why, but

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I think that John Hopper would know
about if if Churchill had said that,

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or aren't it It's it's not like
threatening that I need to know. And

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well, I'm glad not life threatening. That's that's good. I think I

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think it's it's a mystery wrapped in
a riddle and side of an enigma yep,

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or a riddle. Yeah, So
anyway, I think it's it's them

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I put it. If you put
it in an MRI formed, then then

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you know, you know what mystery
something about an MRI. Yes, mystery

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and for mystery are for riddle?
I do you spell a enigma? Another?

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Was it not? And I?
Uh? Enigma would be with an

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e? Hey, Mr Reeves?
Why not? All right? Who?

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By bye bye? All right?
Oh, I got a request. Maybe

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he could, maybe Eric Culture could
do a scent of a woman, or

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trouble with the curve with Clint Eastwood. Perhaps he perhaps he will perhaps irambulate.

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Okay, all right, thank you
all. She's so loud when she

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hangs up. That didn't used to
happen? Six zero three two five six

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seven six h three two five six
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welcome to Matt Connerton unleashed. Does
this? It's John C. Hopwood?

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Oh, John C. Hopwood?
How are you? I was talking

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to John Hopwood earlier. This is
a coincidence. The sea is for Churchill,

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Oh, John Churchill Hopwood. I
like the sound of that. Yes,

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it was Winston Spencer Churchill who said
of Russia that it was a riddle

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rep to a mystery inside in the
Enigma in nineteen thirty nine when Russia was

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trying to sound up the West for
an alliance with Hitler against Hitler before signing

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on in August with Hitler, and
then you know, carving up Poland with

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Hitler. But you know that's politics, right. Incidentally, as I said

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countless times on your show, Winston
Spencer Churchill is my seventeenth cousins through the

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Spencer's Diana is my princess. Diana
Spencer is my nineteenth cousin, and I

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actually met her father it was my
eighteenth cousin, not knowing that he was

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my eighteenth cousin. So I think
that gives me a certain sense of authority.

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Like when I talk about vertically challenged
people and called the midgets, which

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I just found out from Wikipedia,
you can't use the word midget anymore.

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The correct term nows dwarf. Yes, I believe. I believe that term

406
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:49,719
became politically incorrect and unacceptable in nineteen
eighty nine, I believe was the year.

407
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:54,000
Yeah, it seems like a midget, because you know there's midget submarines.

408
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:58,639
They're midget midget this is that?
Do you think that would be the

409
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:05,400
non pejord a word? And dwarfs
makes some sound like something of the Hobbit,

410
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,760
But of course the Hobbit was big
box office making billions of dollars.

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00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:14,880
So who to funk it? Right? I know it's such a tangled Webb

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00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,800
the Spencer family. Yes, I
just want to say Winston Spencer Churchill was

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00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:28,119
a fascist, Mdr. The man
who saved the West and the greatest man

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00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:34,280
of the twentieth century. I also
put people like Gandhi and Martin Luther King

415
00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:38,239
Junior up there too, but you
know they didn't have to deal with Hitler

416
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:44,119
died so he couldn't write his version
of the war. So Churchill, who

417
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,199
was a great writer they'd been writing
since he was in his twenties and won

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00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,800
the Nobel Prize for Literature by the
war, could rewrote the war with himself

419
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:58,559
as the hero. But he was
an old fart and an old fascist,

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00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:05,239
even if he is one of my
kinsman, And would that I just say,

421
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,760
Eric Culture, why haven't you called
in yet? By all right?

422
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:14,400
Bubby Doda, Yes, all right, very good. I would just like

423
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,559
to say speaking of Spencer as I
was always a big fan of Laura Spencer,

424
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:23,440
the character played by Jeanie Francis on
General Hospital and the inspiration for the

425
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:29,119
song Think of Laura by Christopher Cross. Hans Smith of Sepsis in the chat

426
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:32,199
Room says, I had the great
honor of meeting Robert Downey Junior when he

427
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:38,159
was when they were making the film
The Judge in Shelburne Falls, Massachusetts,

428
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:42,840
and the one funny thing when a
crowd was forming, he said, you

429
00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:47,800
all are normal. We all just
started cracking up. Jay fed in the

430
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,880
chat Room, of course, from
the great state of Vermont says, what

431
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:55,800
is going on today? John Hopwood
says, we'll talk about Laura Spencer tomorrow.

432
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,360
Oh how exciting, very good.
Yes, uh yeah. It was

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a whole big thing. You know, they thought she was dead. The

434
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:06,400
thing is she she was dead,
but in soap operas, if you've never

435
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:12,039
watched or seen a soap opera,
no one ever really dies. They they

436
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:15,039
come back to life eventually, there's
a big you know, there's a big

437
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:21,840
storyline where it turns out they weren't
really dead. And that was something that

438
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,840
General Hospital used, a trope that
they used quite a bit, but I

439
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,239
think all soap operas used that trope
to the extent that there are still soap

440
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,920
operas. I think General Hospital might
be the last man standing. Hans Smith

441
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,000
says, I grew up on General
Hospital L O L. Yes, Yes,

442
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:37,760
I got hooked on it when I
was a kid. I'm not I

443
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:43,280
don't watch it currently, but I
did for a long time. I blame

444
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,280
my mother for that. She got
me hooked on it. One summer.

445
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,280
John Hopwood said, I was watching
General Hospital when Reagan was shot. Oh

446
00:37:50,360 --> 00:38:01,159
wow, yeah, all right,
we uh see. I don't know.

447
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,639
I think the band is going to
be a little bit late, so we

448
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,199
might run long on this segment and
we'll when they get here, we'll get

449
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:12,079
them settled in. We'll play a
track and show some love to our sponsors.

450
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:15,440
But or John says, or maybe
I was watching it when the reports

451
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,960
from the hospital came in. I
first watched it in the early nineteen sixties.

452
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,280
And Hans says, mister Rick Springfield, what a dude. Yes,

453
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:30,880
he played Noah Drake John General Hospital. Let's look at now. I did

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00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:37,519
mention. I did refer to the
Republican debate last night. Lots of people

455
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:43,599
talking over each other, lots of
people interrupting. I don't know if it's

456
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:47,639
going to be mentioned. I've got
a story here from NPR six takeaways from

457
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:54,039
from the Republican Debate. Just a
couple of the observations I have Nicki Haley

458
00:38:54,159 --> 00:39:00,159
probably had the best night. I
think that although she got personal with the

459
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:05,159
Vake Ramaswami, not the first time. I think we saw this in the

460
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:09,559
previous debate too, saying something about
I feel dumber every time I hear you

461
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:16,119
talk, or something like that.
She just is not having it with him.

462
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:22,440
I thought Chris Christie said something I
found very cringe. Oh, let

463
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,440
me see if I could actually find
the find the clip. I mean,

464
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:30,719
I thought the way Chris Christie,
what he did at the end of the

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00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:39,280
night, I thought was I thought
was pretty good. But there was a

466
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:45,639
comment earlier he was talking about Trump, and I don't know if I'll even

467
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:49,639
be able to find this right away. I should have had a cute up.

468
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:55,000
But basically, let me see.
Oh, I think this is it.

469
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:07,800
Let's see. Okay, So this
is this is all the instances of

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Donald Trump taking fire during the debate
last night, and needless to say,

471
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,760
it's a short clip, because you
know they all tiptoe around Trump for not

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00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,760
they all literally of course Chris Christie
does not. Ron de Santa's actually went

473
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,239
on on Trump at one point.
I was surprised by it. But here

474
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,719
this is about a minute long.
This is from the Guardian. This is

475
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,360
all the times that Trump took fire
last night. But the Chris Christie there's

476
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:37,159
there's something Chris Christie said that sounded
so rehearsed. It actually came across as

477
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,400
very cringe, even though I agreed
with the substance of what he was saying.

478
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,599
But here, let me play this. We've got to bring long and

479
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,360
order back to this country, and
not just in our cities, but we

480
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,079
need to long and order back everywhere. We need law on order back in

481
00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:52,480
our suburbs. People are threatened there. We needed in our rural areas people

482
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,400
feel threatened there, and we need
in Washington TC also. And Donald Trump

483
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,840
should be here to answer for that, but he's not. And I want

484
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,000
to looking at the camera right now, tell you, Donald, I know

485
00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:06,039
you're watching. You can't help yourself. I know you're watching, okay,

486
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:09,440
and you're not here tonight, not
because of polls and not because if your

487
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:15,280
indictments. You're not here tonight because
you're afraid of being on the stage and

488
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,920
defending your record. You're ducking these
things. And let me tell you what's

489
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,840
gonna happen you keep doing that.
No one up here is gonna call you

490
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,119
Donald Trump anymore. We're gonna call
you Donald duck. Where's Joe Biden?

491
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:29,960
Oh God, that's cringe. I
hated that we're gonna call you Donald duck.

492
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:35,679
Oh dude, you know what it
reminded me of. It reminded me

493
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,119
of immediately. And I'm not even
gonna try to find this right now.

494
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:45,280
But during the during the twenty sixteen
Republican debates, when Chris Christy was being

495
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:51,280
attacked for the hug, the hug
with Obama when Obama came after Hurricane Sandy,

496
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,719
when Obama came to survey the damage
in New Jersey, and by the

497
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,440
way, the hug that never actually
happened, but it was repeated so many

498
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,559
times by various people that at the
end of the visit that Christy and Obama

499
00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:07,599
hugged that I actually have a mental
image of it in my mind. But

500
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:12,880
it's like Mandela affects stuff. It
never actually happened. There was you know,

501
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,280
there was a firm handshake, of
course, but because Chris Christie,

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00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:21,599
you know, he did say he
thanked Obama for visiting, and he and

503
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:23,320
he said after the fact, he
said, look, you know, the

504
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,119
President and I we disagree on many
things. But you know, this was

505
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,599
months later. He said, you
know, the President came through with every

506
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:35,480
single promise that he made to me
that day about how the federal government was

507
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:37,360
going to help us. He delivered
on everything he promised. And I appreciate

508
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,440
that, you know, being like
a mature adult instead of the standard politician.

509
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,599
So but then he took he was
still taking flak for that during the

510
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:53,039
twenty sixteen Republican debates, and he
goes, uh, so to try to

511
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:58,679
try to deflect all of that,
he tried to get aggressive about Obama,

512
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,199
even though Obama wasn't on the ballot
obviously because it was at the end of

513
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:06,519
his second term. But he goes
and and come in, uh, you

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00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:08,360
know, and come in this November, we're gonna kick you out of office,

515
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,280
President Obama, like trying to be
all tough, big tough guy.

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00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:16,400
Then it's like, well, yeah, dude, Obama's leaving anyway. It'll

517
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,599
be the end of his second term. You don't have to kick him out.

518
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,599
He'll leave voluntarily, unlike somebody else
we've seen since then, he'll leave

519
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:28,920
voluntarily. But Chris, he's like, oh, we're gonna get you know.

520
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:34,639
So it's but yeah, that Donald
Duck thing very very cringe. Uh.

521
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:40,119
It just sounded so rehearsed, and
it was it's just lame. Anyway,

522
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,880
there's a little more so there's a
part here where to see. And

523
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,400
by the way, it's not that
I disagree with the substance of what Chris

524
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:51,639
Christy said. I do agree.
I just didn't like that the Donald Duck

525
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,960
thing that ruined it, all right, And it just sounds and it's obvious

526
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:58,679
that he rehearsed it. Okay,
here's here's the rest of this. Where's

527
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,840
Joe Biden. He's completely missing an
action from leadership, and you know who

528
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:07,440
else is missing an action? Donald
Trump is missing an action. He ooh,

529
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:10,760
now this surprised me. This did
surprise me. Should be on this

530
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,239
stage tonight. He owes it to
you to defend and he got some applause

531
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:21,440
for that and his record where they
added seven point eight trillion to the debt

532
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:31,119
and that was it. Although that
actually wasn't it, because there was so

533
00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:37,039
the Guardian missed something here when they
put this short clip together. Because at

534
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:43,639
the end of the debate, let
me see if I can find the other

535
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:53,840
thing that Chris Christie did at the
end of the night, they uh,

536
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,679
no, it showed up in the
search, which means I'm not the only

537
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,599
one looking for it today. Yeah, I can't find the clip. I

538
00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:05,679
should have had it ready. I
didn't know if I was going to talk

539
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,880
about this or not. At the
end of the night, one of the

540
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,639
moderators said, okay, so you
know you've all got a mark or a

541
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:15,639
sharpie and paper in front of you. I want you all to write down

542
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:21,639
who would you vote off the island
if you could vote anyone on this stage,

543
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:24,480
because you know Trump is the front
runner and he's probably going to be

544
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:28,119
the nominee. I don't remember who
said it, and they probably put it

545
00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:31,400
a little more delicately that I am. I'm paraphrasing, but basically it was

546
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,199
Trump's going to be the nominee.
You all know it. But if you

547
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,039
could vote someone on this stage off
of the island, who would you vote

548
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:44,280
off? Now? Run to Santa
spoke up first, and said something like,

549
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:47,760
oh, this is childish. You
know what, what do you want

550
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,480
us to do this for? This
is silly. I don't particularly disagree with

551
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:57,000
him, to be honest with you. But then nobody, nobody wanted to

552
00:45:57,039 --> 00:46:00,679
answer. Everybody got really uncomfortable.
But then Chris Christie seized on the moment

553
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,960
and he said, well, you
know who we should vote off the island

554
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:09,280
is Donald Trump. And then he
went on this rant about how basically he

555
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,679
said, I respect every man and
woman on the stage who showed up tonight

556
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,559
to this debate. And you know
who didn't show up. You know who

557
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:20,280
doesn't have enough respect for you the
voters to show up and you the viewers,

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00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:23,159
Donald Trump. So I say,
let's vote him off the island.

559
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,800
But it was it was pretty good
in the moment, and and nobody else

560
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,440
really got a chance to say anything
at that point, but they were also

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00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:36,039
terrified at the question to begin with. So I thought that was interesting.

562
00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:37,719
Oh that Donald duck thing is hard
to get over, though. That was

563
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,480
awful. John Hopwot in the chat
room says the YETI is fat shaming again.

564
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,519
No, no, no, no
no. There are things I like

565
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:49,360
about Chris Christie, but there are
also things, but I'll never trust him

566
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,559
for one thing, because I think
he knew, absolutely knew about Bridgegate.

567
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,840
And there's also a lot of issues
where I disagree with him. But but

568
00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:00,400
the Donald Duck thing, that's almost
unforgivable. Almost I'll forgive him if we

569
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,559
can get him on the show.
If you'd like to come in here and

570
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:06,239
governor, if you'd like to come
in here and sit down with us,

571
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,519
I'll I'll treat a fair I promise, and I will forgive you for the

572
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:15,079
Donald Duck comment. Oh that was
so cringe. Chris Rose from the Commonwealth

573
00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:19,800
of Massachusetts joins us in the chat
room, and Jay fed says he needs

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00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,440
to be voted off the island.
Yes, who Chris Christy. No,

575
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,920
no, no, we can't.
We can't vote him off. No,

576
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,519
but but listen again, like I
always talk about, none of you know,

577
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:35,639
it's it's a I thought the debate
was kind of an S show.

578
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,079
A lot of talking over each other, a lot of interrupting, a lot

579
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:44,199
of arguing. But it was great
theater, and that's all it is.

580
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:46,880
None of these people are going to
be the Republican nominee. It's going to

581
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:52,920
be Trump. I don't know why
anyone was surprised that he wasn't there.

582
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,519
I remember leading up to the debate, there was all this old you know,

583
00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:58,239
is he gonna at last minute?
Is he gonna say I'm in.

584
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,639
He's got a lot long standing feud
with the Reagan Library, which is where

585
00:48:02,679 --> 00:48:07,440
the debate was last night, And
I don't remember how it started, but

586
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:10,840
he's got a long standing feud with
them. If you recall, in twenty

587
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:16,599
sixteen, he skipped that debate too, because they always do a Republican debate

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00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:21,320
at the Reagan Library during the primaries, you know, when there's a Republican

589
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,360
primary to be had, of course, when there's not an incumbent in office

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00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:29,000
or Republican incumbent, and a Trump
skipped it in twenty sixteen too. I

591
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:32,000
think he had a rally somewhere instead, so there was no chance he was

592
00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:38,159
going to be at this one.
The Oh my goodness, I just got

593
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:43,719
an alert. Somebody's posted a video
the End Times is now. Oh.

594
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:49,639
I've heard that a lot about the
End Times being today or tomorrow or yesterday.

595
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,639
But and yes, it is someone
I know, and many of the

596
00:48:54,760 --> 00:49:00,400
listeners are familiar with who apparently posted
that video about the end times. So,

597
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,840
uh, you know, none of
these people on that stage last night

598
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:12,599
are going to be the nominee.
I think that you know, well who

599
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:16,079
was there? So Will Hurd wasn't
there again, second debate in a row,

600
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:24,519
he didn't qualify for But I think
of the people who were there,

601
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,360
I think that it was it was
seven candidates who else didn't make it.

602
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:38,960
So just just quickly, so here's
who was there, from left to right,

603
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,400
because that's how the picture as I'm
looking at. So you've got North

604
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,480
Dakota Governor Doug Bergham, who I
thought had a better night than in the

605
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:50,119
first debate. In the first debate, he seemed a little nervous, maybe

606
00:49:50,159 --> 00:49:52,679
not ready for prime time. Last
night he seemed more confident, more focused.

607
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:59,239
H former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. Of course, I don't know

608
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,880
what his plan and is long term. Again, all of these people,

609
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,760
look, they're all smart people.
Every single one of these people realizes they're

610
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,800
not going to be the nominee.
But there are many other reasons to run

611
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,599
for president. Right, you want
to be a veep, you want you

612
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:15,000
know, and then so you can
eventually be president. Right, you want

613
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,920
to beat you want a cabinet position, you want your own cable news show.

614
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:23,880
You're trying to sell your book,
You're trying to raise your national profile

615
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,320
so that you can charge more money
in speaking fees. You're going to run

616
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,039
for president again in the future,
and this is a test run, and

617
00:50:31,039 --> 00:50:36,239
you're making connections and all that,
right, So it could be any any

618
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,239
number of reasons why you would run
for president knowing that you have zero chance

619
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,920
of winning. Chris Christie, I
think he might want his own cable news

620
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,719
show. He's very good on television. It would make sense. Former UN

621
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:52,639
Ambassador and of course former Governor Nicky
Haley definitely not going to be Trump's veep

622
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,079
or have a cabinet position. She's
already been there, done that. I

623
00:50:57,159 --> 00:51:01,760
think that she's probably going to on
again in twenty twenty eight. This is

624
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:07,119
the prelude to that. Florida Governor
Ron de Santis, of course, I

625
00:51:07,159 --> 00:51:09,960
think is probably running in twenty twenty
eight. This is the prelude to that.

626
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:17,079
Vavake Ramaswamy, I think he likes
being famous, not a serious person

627
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:22,920
as a candidate. I've talked about
how you know he comes across to me

628
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:29,000
as the way I just perceive him. He seems like a crypto bro who's

629
00:51:29,079 --> 00:51:31,280
really excited because he just drank a
couple of red bulls and he's about to

630
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:36,280
hit one hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube
and he's very excited. That's how he

631
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:42,119
comes across to me, Senator Tim
Scott. I do think Tim Scott might

632
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:50,320
be a potential veep for Trump and
or possibly a cabinet position in his future

633
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:55,880
and a Trump administration. So of
course, former Vice President Mike Pence,

634
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,920
that one's obvious. He's selling his
book. He's got a book to sell,

635
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:01,599
he's selling it. This is a
book tour for him. He knows

636
00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:05,280
he's not going to be the nominee, and he's obviously not going to serve

637
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,360
in the administration. And if Trump
wins in some other fashion, And that

638
00:52:09,519 --> 00:52:15,519
was everybody, you know, and
as as always, everybody tiptoes around Trump

639
00:52:15,519 --> 00:52:21,039
except for Chris Christie and De Santis. Like I said, he took that

640
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:25,960
one shot. Oh I remember,
now, who wasn't there Former Arkansas Governor

641
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,039
Asa Hutchinson because in the previous debate
there were eight, so he didn't qualify

642
00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:34,719
for this one. So maybe he'll
be the first to drop out. Or

643
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:39,760
Will Hurd, who again didn't qualify
for this one. John Hopwood brings up

644
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,800
a good point. They live high
on the hog while they're campaigning, spending

645
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:50,639
the campaign cash on five star restaurants. Yes, that's a great point.

646
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,679
Yeah, and it looks like fun. Yeah. You get to eat at

647
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:57,639
five star restaurants and meet a lot
of important people and have a good time

648
00:52:57,639 --> 00:53:00,679
and give speeches, and you get
to go to ates where you say a

649
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:05,280
lot of stuff that you can't you
know, make promises you can't fulfill and

650
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,880
whatnot, even if you get elected. But you can say whatever you want

651
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,400
to because you're no, you're not
going to be elected, because you're not

652
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:15,039
even going to win the nomination.
So you know, there are other reasons

653
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,239
to run for president. And it
does look like fun. Let's look at

654
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:25,599
this. This is from NPR six
takeaways from the second GOP debate. Primary

655
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:30,119
debates are about winnowing down the field
of candidates to land on the eventual nominee

656
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:35,239
for a major party. The winnowing
process continued at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library

657
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,719
and Semi Valley, California, where
seven Republicans showed up ready to fight.

658
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:44,159
By the way, not to be
critical of this article on NPR dot org.

659
00:53:44,519 --> 00:53:49,679
But no, this, this series
of debates is not about winnowing down

660
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,760
candidates to land on a nominee.
The nominee is going to be Donald Trump.

661
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,679
That's not an opinion, that's not
a prediction. That's a fact.

662
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,760
We all know it again, and
they're all running for and they all know

663
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,480
it. Every single one of those
people on the debate stage they know it

664
00:54:04,519 --> 00:54:10,280
too. So they're all running for
other reasons. So it says here just

665
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,559
seven candidates took part in this debate, down from the eight last month in

666
00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:21,360
Milwaukee after former governor of Arkansas,
Governor Asa Hutchinson failed to qualify. This

667
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,719
time, there's less than four months
before the first nominating contest in Iowa on

668
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:30,639
jan fifteen. By the way,
do you remember in twenty sixteen there were

669
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:35,079
so many candidates who were qualifying.
See, the RNC has really moved the

670
00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:38,199
goalposts here to make it harder.
There were so many candidates in twenty sixteen

671
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:44,159
running for the Republican nomination that they
had, at least for the first few

672
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,719
they would actually have two sets of
debates. And I called it at the

673
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:52,000
time the Kids Table. They had
the kids table debates and the adults table

674
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:55,239
debates, you know, just like
during the holidays, So they would have

675
00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:00,719
the kids table debate first, you
know, all the candidates who absolutely totally

676
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,800
had no shot. It's hard to
remember who was at the kid's table debates

677
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,599
because it was a kid's table.
The only one that really stands out to

678
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:09,920
me is a Senator Lindsey Graham.
He was at the kid's table because you

679
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,280
know, these are for the people
pulling it like one percent. And then

680
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,679
they had the adults stable, which
was you know, obviously Trump and Christy

681
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:24,639
and Rubio and Kasak and all the
others. John Hopwood says it's unlikely that

682
00:55:24,679 --> 00:55:30,480
Trump would serve a full term after
being elected, so the GOP VEEP nominee

683
00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:36,360
might be the forty eighth president,
and John says, yes, Lindsay Graham

684
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,599
at the kid's table. Uh.
Melanie Liberty from the Great State of Vermont

685
00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:44,599
joins this and says, hey,
guys, hey, Melanie, let's see

686
00:55:44,599 --> 00:55:49,199
it. Says here again, this
is from NPR. That made for a

687
00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:53,280
debate that was at times unruly,
with the three moderators struggling to control the

688
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:59,320
conversation as candidates talked and shouted over
each other. North Dakota Governor Doug Bergham,

689
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,159
at the bottom of the pack and
current polls and the last to qualify

690
00:56:01,199 --> 00:56:05,400
to appear in the debate, tried
to elbow his way into more airtime,

691
00:56:05,559 --> 00:56:10,360
jumping in answer a question about childcare
out of turn before moderator Dana Perino of

692
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:15,280
Fox News cut him off. The
debate wrapped up with a surprising moment of

693
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:20,199
decorum when the candidates refused to answer
a single question posed by Perino, who

694
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,199
asked each candidate to single out one
rival who should be voted off the island.

695
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,320
Florida Governor Rondy Sanders box saying,
quote, I think that's disrespectful to

696
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,960
my fellow competitors unquote. Former Governor
Chris Christy visibly indicated his agreement. Christi

697
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:37,639
eventually said that he would quote vote
Donald Trump off the island right now.

698
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:44,440
Every person on this stage has shown
respect for Republican voters une by showing up.

699
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,079
Christy added, adding that Trump has
divided the country and divided families.

700
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,079
Yeah, that was interesting, by
the way, I'll find that clip and

701
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:59,480
I'll play it on tomorrow's show.
Christy talked about it, surprised me actually,

702
00:56:59,639 --> 00:57:04,719
but he talked about the division,
like he talked about the how divisive

703
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,840
Trump is in terms of how you
know people even in you know, in

704
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:14,280
their own families, they have family
members who you know, their relationships are

705
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,679
strained with now because because of Trump, because they disagree about Trump. Trump

706
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,920
is so divisive now. I have
a lot of feelings about that, but

707
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:29,119
I'll leave that to the side.
But but it was interesting to hear Christie

708
00:57:29,159 --> 00:57:32,880
talk about that actually. So some
other takeaways from last night's debate, It

709
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:37,239
says Haley on fire again. Yeah, I think she acquitted herself well.

710
00:57:37,239 --> 00:57:40,920
And I think there was a pole
right after the debate that showed a lot

711
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,760
of viewers felt that she won,
you know, to the extent that there

712
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,960
could be a winner again. The
debate was kind of an s show,

713
00:57:47,519 --> 00:57:52,360
it says former South Carolina Governor Nicky
Haley, who's been gaining ground, particularly

714
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:58,079
in New Hampshire and outpacing de Santis
in some key polls, showed up with

715
00:57:58,119 --> 00:58:02,480
gloves off. She sparred with both
the Santis and South Carolina Senator Tim Scott

716
00:58:02,519 --> 00:58:07,239
over energy policy. During a heated
exchange about how to regulate social media used

717
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:12,760
by teens, Haley told entrepreneur of
the Vake Ramaswamy what will perhaps be the

718
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,360
single most memorable line. Quote,
every time I hear you, I feel

719
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:22,360
a little bit dumber unquote. Ramaswamy
responded by complaining about the fruitlessness of personal

720
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:28,480
attacks, as a discussion descended into
yet another shouting match between the moderators and

721
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:31,519
candidates. In an apparent sign that
Trump us Haley as a potential threat is

722
00:58:31,559 --> 00:58:37,280
campaign released a statement before the debate
even ended, attempting to lessen her credibility,

723
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:40,519
calling her week on immigration. By
the way, that is interesting to

724
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:45,639
me that the campaign would even bother
to do that. Trump will participate in

725
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:47,000
these debates. He wants to remain
above the fright. By the way,

726
00:58:47,039 --> 00:58:51,280
as much as you know, I'm
no fan of Trump, as listeners know,

727
00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:54,719
but I do think that politically it
is smart for Trump to stay out

728
00:58:54,719 --> 00:59:00,400
of the debates. People are still, you know, wondering even today,

729
00:59:00,599 --> 00:59:04,239
what about the next debate? Maybe
Trump will show up for the next one.

730
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,119
Guys, I got news for you. Trump will not show up for

731
00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:10,880
a single Republican primary debate. He
will not. He's not coming to any

732
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,840
of these. He has no reason
to. There's just no reason to He's

733
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:20,519
going to be the nominee. He
can cruise. There's no reason for him

734
00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:22,159
to show up at any of these
debates. He has nothing to gain from

735
00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:27,280
it, and he knows that,
so, you know, we can we

736
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,519
can forget about that. But I
am surprised that they bothered to. I

737
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:34,440
mean, do they actually see NICKI
Haley as a threat? That does surprise

738
00:59:34,519 --> 00:59:39,000
me. If that is the case, Let's see, the front runner was

739
00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:45,960
absent but not ignored. Instead of
attending the debate, Trump held a rally

740
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:51,119
in Michigan at a non union auto
parts manufacturing plant. The visit seemed designed

741
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:53,519
to contrast with President Biden's decision to
join out. Okay, we know about

742
00:59:53,519 --> 00:59:58,840
that. I'm gonna skip down here. Actually, yeah, we already covered

743
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,800
that because I played the those clips. Okay, next takeaway. China is

744
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:08,800
the foreign policy thread through all things. China loomed large throughout the debate,

745
01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:15,000
whether the topic was its dominance in
the energy and technology sectors, its role

746
01:00:15,079 --> 01:00:19,079
in the flow of fentanol into the
US, efforts to control Taiwan, and

747
01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:24,599
friendliness between Chinese President Jijing Ping and
Russian President Vladimir Putin amid Russia's ongoing war

748
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:30,679
against Ukraine. Haley called for ending
normal trade relations with China until the fentanol

749
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:32,239
supplies cut off, and said quote, a win for Russia is a win

750
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:38,000
for China. Ute Chrissie hit on
similar themes, warning of alliances between China

751
01:00:38,039 --> 01:00:42,559
and Russia, same quote. If
we give him any of Ukraine, next

752
01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:46,119
will be Poland unquote. And by
the way, it's and I think Chris

753
01:00:46,239 --> 01:00:51,079
Christy has been very good on that, as well as Nikki Haley and some

754
01:00:51,159 --> 01:00:54,599
others. And it's it's important to
point that out because there are some Republicans

755
01:00:54,639 --> 01:01:00,440
who would very much like to abandon
Ukraine. There's very much a split in

756
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,800
the Republican Party on that subject.
One thing I disagree with, though,

757
01:01:06,119 --> 01:01:08,920
is the idea, and I think
it's just being said for rhetoric. I

758
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:13,960
don't know how many people who say
this actually believe it. The idea that

759
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,480
Poland is next or would be next, or could be next, or would

760
01:01:17,519 --> 01:01:24,599
have been next had we not supplied
Ukraine with help, that I don't believe.

761
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:30,559
I don't believe that Vladimir Putin ever
had an idea of taking Ukraine and

762
01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:35,480
then moving on to Poland because Poland
is NATO and that was not going to

763
01:01:35,519 --> 01:01:37,400
happen. So I just don't a
little bit of a side note, But

764
01:01:37,719 --> 01:01:45,960
I've never bought into that idea that
NATO, that Putin was going to take

765
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:50,280
Ukraine and then try to attack NATO. That would be pretty insane, you

766
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,960
know, assuming that Putin is still
a rational actor of sane mind. That

767
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,320
would be World War three, that
would wind up in a nuclear exchange.

768
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,119
So I don't believe. I don't
believe that that was ever on the menu.

769
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,880
But it's a good talking point.
I suppose if you support Ukraine,

770
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,679
I support Ukraine also, and I
support our helping Ukraine. But you're never

771
01:02:08,719 --> 01:02:13,039
gonna hear me say while we have
to help Ukraine because Poland is next.

772
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,000
I would never say that, just
because to me, it's not honest.

773
01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:19,400
I don't think that's true. I'll
give you my argument for why we need

774
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,920
to help Ukraine, but I'm not
gonna start spouting off about well, other

775
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:30,039
NATO countries could be attacked by Russia. I mean, that would be suicidal

776
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:36,559
of Vladimir Putin to do that.
So anyway, next takeaway, I'm gonna

777
01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:38,960
try to speed through these because I
think the band is arriving soon. The

778
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:44,400
fading memory of Ronald Reagan. This
is something we've talked about on the show.

779
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,280
By the way, people used to
evoke Reagan all the time until Trump

780
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,920
showed up, and then all of
a sudden, they had a new hero.

781
01:02:50,239 --> 01:02:53,199
Republicans used to evoke Reagan all the
time. The debate was held at

782
01:02:53,199 --> 01:02:58,440
the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi
Valley, California, and the event opened

783
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:04,239
with iconic images and from the fortieth
president. Several questions referred to Reagan,

784
01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:07,800
who has taken on a near mythical
status among some in the party. Candidates,

785
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:13,199
including Senator Scott and former Vice President
Mike Pence, have invoked his name

786
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,679
on the campaign trail, with Pence
seeking to differentiate the Party of Reagan from

787
01:03:16,679 --> 01:03:22,079
the Party of Trump. Even so, more than forty years have passed since

788
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:25,480
Reagan took office, and it's unclear
how much that image will continue to resonate

789
01:03:25,519 --> 01:03:30,920
with younger voters with little or no
memory of him. That's in a party

790
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,480
that is struggling to win over young
voters, a key demographic in the upcoming

791
01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:42,840
general election. This was weird and
I didn't like it. Sleeping with teachers

792
01:03:43,199 --> 01:03:47,920
one of the weirder lines of discussion
surrounded that's right, politicians quote sleeping with

793
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,639
teachers. Spoiler alert the teachers and
questions were their wives. But don't let

794
01:03:52,639 --> 01:03:57,079
that get in the way of a
good snarky quip. During a conversation about

795
01:03:57,079 --> 01:04:00,159
the power of teachers teacher unions,
Christy attacked President Biden, saying, quote,

796
01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:03,360
when you have the president of the
United States sleeping with a member of

797
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:08,599
the teachers union, there is no
chance that you could take the stranglehold away

798
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:13,639
unquote. First Lady Jill Biden has
spent her career as an educator. Several

799
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:16,039
minutes later, Pence followed up by
joking that he has been quote sleeping with

800
01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:19,559
a teacher for thirty eight years unquote. But he did make the distinction that

801
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:25,159
his wife, a former Second Lady
Karen Pence, is not a union educator.

802
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,880
Still, good luck getting those images
out of your head. Yeah,

803
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:33,159
and that's why I didn't like that. All Right, here's what we're gonna

804
01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:39,559
do. We're gonna take a break
and I'm gonna play this is of the

805
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,599
tracks that they sent us, because, like I said, I believe the

806
01:04:42,599 --> 01:04:45,800
guys are going to be arriving shortly, so we'll take our break now.

807
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,599
This is fourteen hundred BC. This
is just an epic epic song. I

808
01:04:51,719 --> 01:04:57,199
love this. This is of course
from the band After the Winter, who

809
01:04:57,239 --> 01:05:00,519
are our musical guests today. If
you're just jo us, my understanding is

810
01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:04,960
they are on their way, but
they are stuck in traffic, so hopefully

811
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,320
they will arrive soon. I'm really
looking forward to meeting them. I love

812
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,239
their sound. Great band. I
should warn you though, it's about to

813
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,960
get loud and it's about to get
heavy. But check this out. This

814
01:05:15,039 --> 01:06:14,280
is fourteen hundred BC and the band
is After the Winter. Yeah. And

815
01:06:14,599 --> 01:06:38,960
they had to have any sort or
word you had intention to any man,

816
01:06:39,639 --> 01:07:00,280
and the thing I thought out and
yet the sense to go shorts not by

817
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:18,800
side ride what dry work more t
morn time T sulight that side light time

818
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:49,960
sul time sorry last ye sorry my
time r T sill So what d s

819
01:07:51,719 --> 01:08:05,800
love by more by sidelights on ip
talk outs one like that that saw your

820
01:08:09,079 --> 01:09:17,800
one love bre like slight that light
talking outside time They say, oh sime

821
01:09:20,279 --> 01:10:24,319
time stay stay that's one why lie
light lie right time die eye t go

822
01:10:27,479 --> 01:11:57,079
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848
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849
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:08,960
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850
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851
01:19:14,039 --> 01:19:16,359
If you're in Manchester and hello to
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852
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853
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for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact infosh archives,

854
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etcetera, etcetera. Today is Thursday, September twenty eight, twenty twenty

855
01:19:28,359 --> 01:19:31,000
three, and our musical guests are
here in studio with us. We have

856
01:19:31,239 --> 01:19:36,479
after the winter. How are you
guys? Or or we have most of

857
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:41,359
the band anyway, right, we're
missing four of this now do you want

858
01:19:41,359 --> 01:19:45,880
to make up an amusing and perhaps
mildly but radio friendly story for why the

859
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:55,039
other person isn't here? He's up
in a bucket right now, he's working,

860
01:19:55,600 --> 01:20:00,560
working traffically. I gotcha our lead
guitar player. Yeah, Chad Mayors,

861
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,920
he's here in spirit. Yeah,
you might try to call in.

862
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,159
Actually, we are all oh,
very cool, very cool. And by

863
01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:10,880
the way, and for those of
you watching online, you'll be able to

864
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,680
see if I face this way,
the camera can pick it up. So

865
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:18,720
these guys brought a couple of shirts
and I love it. Very cool.

866
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:24,840
Yeah, we got some March coming
out pretty soon, very soon. Yeah.

867
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,199
Oh, I should put the camera
on you two because you've got you've

868
01:20:27,239 --> 01:20:30,159
got some brand new merch you're wearing
there. You can really see that it's

869
01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:39,319
it's uh, it's in yellow.
Yeah, very cool. I dig the

870
01:20:39,399 --> 01:20:45,720
logos. Yes, the uh I've
I've I've had sleep paralysis before. Yeah,

871
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:50,439
very nice, very nice. By
the way, Tom Blanchard in the

872
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:55,600
chat room said, a good song, but hard to whistle to. Fair

873
01:20:56,279 --> 01:20:59,680
and Melanie, our friend from Vermont, says, this sounds like the song

874
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,720
we used to sing to our kids
before they went to sleep. That I

875
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,640
actually I actually played that from my
kids when they go to sleep. Very

876
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:13,479
nice. That's why they never sleep. Jay Fed says, Now that's a

877
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:17,640
beard, that's a that's a trimmed. So I just got a trimmed today.

878
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:21,199
Actually, that's funny. So yesterday
on the show we had Hands of

879
01:21:21,319 --> 01:21:25,199
Spite. I don't know if you
guys know that band, I've heard of

880
01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:27,600
them, but the gentleman who was
at the news desk yesterday I also had

881
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:34,039
a big beard, like yes,
absolutely, well, let's do this.

882
01:21:34,119 --> 01:21:38,000
So let's start at the news desk, and if you can each tell us

883
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,680
who you are and what you do
in the band. All right, So

884
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:43,319
my name is Chris. I'm the
vocalist of After the Winter, an original

885
01:21:43,399 --> 01:21:48,680
member, all right, And on
the couch, I'm Cody. I'm rhythm

886
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:54,159
guitar. I'm the newest member to
the band. I was a fan of

887
01:21:54,199 --> 01:21:58,159
the band when I was younger.
My best friend Chad was, you know,

888
01:21:58,279 --> 01:22:01,000
lead guitar, and uh, you
know, when they got back together,

889
01:22:01,159 --> 01:22:03,840
they had me try out. And
here I am, oh, very

890
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:09,199
cool, very cool, and you
I am Nick. I am the drummer.

891
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:14,479
I play the skins. I'm also
an original member, yes sir,

892
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,520
Yeah, we're back after a little
hiatus. But cool, cool, better

893
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,479
than ever I think. And in
the chair, my name is Matt.

894
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:26,359
I played bass and uh, when
he originally asked me i was joined the

895
01:22:26,399 --> 01:22:30,640
band, I said, though,
ye, second time I said yes,

896
01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:32,520
and here we are very good.
Tell he's the bass player too, because

897
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:38,359
you hear his voice very clearly.
Yeah. Well, so we have some

898
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,079
a couple of things in common.
So my name, of course is Matt,

899
01:22:41,119 --> 01:22:43,760
and I'm also a basically great name. Oh there we go, Jam

900
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,439
later, Yes, yea, why
did so? Now I'm curious why did

901
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,079
you say no? The first time? I just had a lot going on.

902
01:22:49,239 --> 01:22:51,720
I was in a couple of different
bands, and uh, I wasn't

903
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,359
sure. But then I thought about
it and I was like, well,

904
01:22:55,399 --> 01:22:58,720
I'd gladly drop other bands for this
band. Yeah. Yeah, works out

905
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,159
well. After hearing the track you
guys sent me, I think he made

906
01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:05,680
the right choice because because I love
what you're doing. In fact, what

907
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,680
was the song? I want to
make sure I'm talking about the right one.

908
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,960
Oh yeah, fourteen hundred BC.
Yes, I was playing that in

909
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,199
the car today and there's a couple
of points in that in that and I

910
01:23:15,239 --> 01:23:17,560
think it's the bass notes that are
doing it. There's a couple of points

911
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,760
in that song where I feel it
in my stomach. Yeah. Yeah,

912
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:25,039
it's fantastic. I love that you
just said. Yeah that's great. Yeah,

913
01:23:26,199 --> 01:23:29,640
real like to hear that. Yeah, Yeah, really good stuff.

914
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:31,560
Chris. You do all the vocals
or I do? Yes, I do

915
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,560
cleans and I do the screaming.
It's your Your approach is interesting. I

916
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:40,159
don't know if anyone is pointing this
out before, but you know, very

917
01:23:40,239 --> 01:23:43,119
often in bands where you've got you
know, you've got the aggressive vocals and

918
01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:47,600
the clean vocals. It's it's usually
it's usually more of the clean vocals and

919
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,800
then you and then you hear a
little bit of the aggressive vocals. But

920
01:23:50,279 --> 01:23:53,039
do it the other way, you
do it the other way. Yeah,

921
01:23:53,119 --> 01:23:55,560
that's interesting. Oh, we thought
it's nice to break it up once in

922
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,560
a while. And you know,
these guys heard me singing. They're like,

923
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,800
oh my gosh, you're the voice
of an angel. Yeah. Yeah,

924
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:05,199
there's actually great bread crumbs. Yeah
yeah. It does have guest vocals

925
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:12,319
from the original guitar player from the
band, who's Mike String who wrote Yeah,

926
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,560
yeah, yeah, that's an epic
track. Thank you for making that.

927
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,600
I love that absolutely. That seems
to be the popular one people will

928
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:25,079
always point out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very cool. And uh

929
01:24:25,319 --> 01:24:28,159
are you all you're from the Boston
area or oh no, I'm sorry,

930
01:24:28,199 --> 01:24:31,000
you said Western mass Springfield. Okay, yeah, I'm living in the Boston

931
01:24:31,039 --> 01:24:36,439
area right now, okay, okay, yeah. Now are you're gonna be

932
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:42,640
at Swarmy festis year? Yeah?
Oh yeah, excellent, excellent, yep.

933
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,880
Jenny and I will be there representing
and really looking we're really looking forward

934
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:49,520
to that. Absolutely. Actually just
texted Will from Sepsis. We're supposed to

935
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,840
maybe grab something to eat after this. Oh, very cool. Yeah,

936
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:55,960
yeah, Will's Will is a great
guy. Sepsisolutely a great band. Those

937
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,640
guys really good people, and they're
they're doing a lot of great stuff and

938
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:00,199
you know, they're really good at
bringing people together and you know, well

939
01:25:00,279 --> 01:25:03,920
obviously you know I love what they
do. Yep, they got a podcast.

940
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,560
I usually watch it. Oh yeah, yeah, and they're so good

941
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,760
live. And then they've come a
long way too, you know, they've

942
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:16,159
they've really advanced a lot over time. It's it's been great to see.

943
01:25:18,119 --> 01:25:20,399
Now you guys play out a lot? Are you doing a lot too?

944
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:25,760
So this summer we actually did more
than we've ever done. We plade about

945
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:29,600
thirty shows. Yeah, so this
year we're at we're at thirty right now.

946
01:25:30,239 --> 01:25:32,640
I've ever played I've never been in
a band before. Actually, Okay,

947
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:40,920
while very breaking them in, they
really are how long have you been

948
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:51,000
in the band since? Was it? We're on there? Yeah? Some

949
01:25:51,119 --> 01:25:55,279
of the stuff is you know,
it's it's kind of I mean, it's

950
01:25:55,319 --> 01:25:58,279
not like prog rock, but it's
it's a little bit complex compared to a

951
01:25:58,359 --> 01:26:00,680
lot of metal that's out there.
I mean, was was it Has it

952
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,199
been challenging to learn it or did
you pick it up pretty quick? Or

953
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,640
oh yeah, Man, some songs
are harder than others, and some things

954
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:10,399
that you think that are gonna be
hard are actually the easy parts, and

955
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:14,560
some of the easy the hardest parts
are like just chucks. Yeah. Yeah,

956
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,439
it'll just be some like breakdowns and
rhythm parts that are just like you

957
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:23,239
know, they'll be like it's Dune, Dune. We have that problem.

958
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,680
We find to have that problem a
lot with with lead players. So I

959
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,840
think that Cody is supposed to be
a lead player because our lead players it

960
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:30,960
takes them forever to learn the simple
stuff. They're like, dude, I

961
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:35,800
don't get this. That's interesting sweep
all day, but like yeah, yeah,

962
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:42,640
right, Like what are what are
the live shows? Like, I

963
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,039
mean, do you have any kind
of theatrics or anything or you just go

964
01:26:45,159 --> 01:26:48,039
out there and play? I mean, because I imagine it's pretty high energy.

965
01:26:48,359 --> 01:26:50,680
It is high energy. We go
out there and mostly just play.

966
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,239
But like we have a Halloween show
coming up pretty soon at the camp and

967
01:26:55,359 --> 01:26:58,439
Enfield, Connecticut, so it's gonna
be like a costume party. So we're

968
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,520
gonna do some weird stuff. Yeah, yeah, not too weird. That's

969
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:05,479
too weird to a certain degree.
Yeah, we're gonna get weird. We're

970
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:12,199
not that weird. Yeah, and
you're not. And where do you record?

971
01:27:12,239 --> 01:27:15,920
Because everything sounds rightly? So we
record with Ian from the Echo Room

972
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:21,359
Studios. We actually recorded at Zing
Studios, which is previously known as the

973
01:27:23,119 --> 01:27:27,000
studio where Adam d from kill Switch
was the engineer. Oh no kidding,

974
01:27:27,079 --> 01:27:30,880
Westfield, Massachusetts. Oh wow cool. So it was surreal being in there

975
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,439
this time. I mean we we
shared the same equipment as like you know,

976
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:38,359
kill Switch, engaged Devilwars product who
wow, big bands like you know

977
01:27:38,399 --> 01:27:41,399
another one old school band that I
was friends with, this Legia. Those

978
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:45,800
guys record ye oh wow, very
cool. They have like a cool wall

979
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:54,640
in there that you get to sign
to. Yeah, we have that awesome.

980
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,239
Now, how did you how did
you make that connection to record at

981
01:27:59,279 --> 01:28:03,439
that? Like what in too picking
that studio to So so we've been sticking

982
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:08,079
with the same guy since we started
this, and you know, we took

983
01:28:08,239 --> 01:28:12,279
so we started, we took like
an eleven year hiatus. We had kids,

984
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:15,000
people had things going on. Yeah, you know what I mean for

985
01:28:15,119 --> 01:28:17,520
real, eleven years. Yeah,
So we just came back this year,

986
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,359
no kidding. So we just came
back and we've been hitting it hard.

987
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:25,399
You know. We decided to stick
with Ian because he's just he's a great

988
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,960
dude and and he's got a great
ear for the music. You know,

989
01:28:28,199 --> 01:28:30,399
we just love what he does.
We'd love how he mixes and masters everything

990
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:35,039
and easy to work with, just
really cool gets Yeah yeah, does he

991
01:28:35,239 --> 01:28:40,399
like you know, because a lot
of times, you know, Engineer has

992
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:45,680
become like de facto producers, you
know, That's what it's like with him.

993
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:47,640
Kind yeah, yeah, yeah,
he just knows what he what he

994
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,960
wants to hear, and we always
agree with him. So yeah, yeah,

995
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,520
yeah, whatever you say, otherwise
he might beat us with a stick.

996
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,239
So we've recorded everything everything that you
hear from after the just recorded with

997
01:29:00,399 --> 01:29:03,920
Ian other than one song. We
recorded a song with Ken Susy from Unearth

998
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:08,159
and Now As I Lay Dying Oh
no kidding, Yeah, that that song

999
01:29:08,319 --> 01:29:10,479
is called The Hunt. Okay,
we did that one with him. Oh

1000
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,600
yeah, we're we're gonna we're gonna
play that one at the end of the

1001
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:16,279
segment. Actually, yeah, yeah, The Hunt definitely, by the way,

1002
01:29:16,319 --> 01:29:19,600
where does the name come from?
After the winter the best time.

1003
01:29:20,079 --> 01:29:25,560
The best time is spring. I
agree, that's it. That's that's simple.

1004
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:29,840
I just always haven't anything to do
with the name. So I always

1005
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,680
tell people I like to look at
it is only the strong survived the winter.

1006
01:29:33,399 --> 01:29:36,640
There we go. That's my motto. I like my angry music in

1007
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:40,680
the winter, then play it in
the summer. Yeah, I like that.

1008
01:29:41,239 --> 01:29:43,479
No, I agree, though,
that's after the winter. After the

1009
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:46,800
winter we all come out and we
play shows. Winter winter is done.

1010
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,520
It's a relief, that's right.
Yeah, that's no. I'm I'm with

1011
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:54,560
you there. Absolutely. Can you
guys talk to me about influences? You

1012
01:29:54,600 --> 01:30:00,720
know, you mentioned recording at the
studio of where I kill Switch Engage one

1013
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,239
of those guys, which I'm big, big fan. I love kill Switch

1014
01:30:03,279 --> 01:30:06,680
Engage absolutely, and I can hear
some of that in your in your music

1015
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:10,800
definitely. Well, what else?
Who are some other influences. One of

1016
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,520
my biggest influences actually Howard Jones from
that band, So he was in a

1017
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,680
band prior to that called bloodisban Shed
from Connecticut. Okay, ridiculous band.

1018
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:21,279
That's a cool That's kind of where
it all started. This whole scene started

1019
01:30:21,319 --> 01:30:25,600
there. You know, it goes
back and forth. People say Slipknots started

1020
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,520
it, and I mean slip Knots
heavy too, but Bloodisman Shed was like

1021
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,880
what we do. Like, they're
really like heavier than us. Often I'll

1022
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,000
often look them up. I don't
know that, but that's a cool name,

1023
01:30:33,039 --> 01:30:35,720
putting out the pieces together for like
what they call metal core. Yeah

1024
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:41,399
yeah, yeah yeah. And Howard
Jones, the singer from kill Switch,

1025
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:43,640
the one that they had knew for
a while. But yeah, I know

1026
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,800
Jesse's back now, but Howard Jones, he was in Blosman Shed and he

1027
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,600
does He's one of the best singers
I've ever heard. Man, it's just

1028
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:54,039
incredible. Oh wow, oh very
cool. What about what about you guys?

1029
01:30:54,159 --> 01:30:58,359
Anyway? I love like the Acacia
strain, uh yeah, things like

1030
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:02,680
that. Trying to think they played
a show that I This was way back.

1031
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:08,199
They played a show that I promoted
locally actually before they were like you

1032
01:31:08,279 --> 01:31:11,359
know yeah, yeah, they're from
town in Springfield, so yeah, yeah,

1033
01:31:11,399 --> 01:31:15,640
yeah, I would see them a
lot. I like, uh,

1034
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:20,760
I just I was just thinking of
it. Ohno. Just listen to them.

1035
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:27,079
Nick's always talking about nothing. If
you're listening Nick wants to play a

1036
01:31:27,119 --> 01:31:34,840
show with you guys just me.
Yeah, So for me, I got

1037
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:43,119
a whole top five problems. But
the one, yeah, the one that

1038
01:31:43,199 --> 01:31:46,359
I would say is a big influence
in my life and actually is. You

1039
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:51,000
know, we went to their concert
and that's how Chad and Chris saw each

1040
01:31:51,039 --> 01:31:55,760
other again for the first time.
Would be August Burn's Red. So they

1041
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,960
had a big impact on my life. And you know, me and Chad

1042
01:31:59,039 --> 01:32:01,880
went to that concert, saw Chris
and they talked and decided to put back

1043
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:08,000
to the band. And I got
to meet the drummer Matt that night too,

1044
01:32:08,159 --> 01:32:11,159
took a photo of him, and
yeah, that that band I've always

1045
01:32:11,199 --> 01:32:14,239
loved. So yeah, yeah,
very cool. What about you, Matt

1046
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:18,399
Well? I came from a more
death metal and black metal background. There's

1047
01:32:18,399 --> 01:32:21,720
actually a black metal band before this. Yeah, the completely different kind of

1048
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:28,319
music, more Jurun. What about
other than that? Other than that,

1049
01:32:28,399 --> 01:32:30,640
I used to play in a band
called O Rose Funeral. They're from Ohio.

1050
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,319
They were on meddal Bade Records,
a tour with the in two thousand

1051
01:32:33,319 --> 01:32:38,800
and eight. He also plays drums
and just kind of why When he asked

1052
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,039
me, I was like, uh, I kind of stuck at bass,

1053
01:32:41,399 --> 01:32:46,119
but I'll try it. Yeah what
happens. But yeah, I like black

1054
01:32:46,159 --> 01:32:48,880
and death metal and stuff. So
we all kind of have different influences,

1055
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:53,039
but we kind of put them together
to kind of create something that we like

1056
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,920
as a unit pretty much. Yeah, yeah, works out. So many

1057
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,880
influences here. Yeah, we have
a lot of different influence. By the

1058
01:33:00,039 --> 01:33:02,399
way Sepsis is in the Chatirman says, after the winter is a very new

1059
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:16,600
England name. Arizona is winter.
Oh depends on where our westyr gez California

1060
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:21,399
last winter, and some places had
a worse winter than we did. That's

1061
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:26,439
true. I didn't. I used
to snowblower once last winter. Yeah yeah,

1062
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,239
oh yeah, the winter is here
have gotten easier and they've gotten harder

1063
01:33:29,359 --> 01:33:33,960
other places. It's it's amazing now
the tunes that we've been playing, because

1064
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:38,600
I played a couple earlier, bread
Crumb and of course our fourteen hundred BC.

1065
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,520
Are these on an album or are
they just singing? It's our EP

1066
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:45,439
release, So they are on the
EP. The EP is called My Wish,

1067
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:47,239
My Dream. We just got the
artwork done. What you just saw

1068
01:33:47,319 --> 01:33:51,279
on my back, that's part of
it. And we have somebody working on

1069
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:56,159
the the EP cover right now.
It's it's almost done. We got some

1070
01:33:56,319 --> 01:33:59,319
drafts back and we just had to
make some corrections. But yeah, it

1071
01:33:59,319 --> 01:34:02,479
should be really soon. Oh,
very cool, very cool. And now

1072
01:34:03,039 --> 01:34:06,119
so I have to ask you too
about so the back of your of your

1073
01:34:06,159 --> 01:34:11,319
hoodie there it's got the sleep demons
as you call it. Ye, like,

1074
01:34:12,159 --> 01:34:15,760
did what is that inspired by?
Like have you experienced or one of

1075
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:19,880
you experienced actual sleep paralysis? Because
I feel I've never told them about this,

1076
01:34:20,039 --> 01:34:25,560
but I've had like that same thing
happened to me and I couldn't move,

1077
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,560
isn't it isn't it awful? Yeah? Yeah, I can't move.

1078
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:30,880
You just sit there and you're just
like I wish this was over, but

1079
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,159
you can't do anything about it.
You cannot. I can say I've never

1080
01:34:33,239 --> 01:34:36,600
had that happen, So yeah,
I know talking about that's that's good.

1081
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:43,560
My experience with it. It happened
to me like three times. This was

1082
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:48,079
maybe twelve years ago. But I
never saw anything like I never saw like

1083
01:34:48,199 --> 01:34:51,359
anything sitting on me. It was
like I was alone in my bed in

1084
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:55,319
the dark, and I woke up
at least that's what it felt like.

1085
01:34:55,399 --> 01:34:59,000
I woke up and I knew somebody
was standing over me. You could feel

1086
01:34:59,039 --> 01:35:01,039
it. I could feel it.
Couldn't see them, but I could feel

1087
01:35:01,079 --> 01:35:04,640
it. And I was paralyzed,
like I like I was. I couldn't

1088
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:09,800
do anything about it. And uh, I can't remember if I've ever admitted

1089
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,520
this on the air or not,
but I actually slept with the lights on

1090
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:17,439
for at the third time it happened. I started judgment here. I started

1091
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:19,560
sleeping with the lights on. I
was like, I've had enough of this,

1092
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:25,000
and so yeah, so that image
is that image is wild man.

1093
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:29,439
That's it's almost like if you know, you know, oh yeah, yeah,

1094
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,119
totally totally. But that's good,
chriss. You haven't had to suffer

1095
01:35:32,199 --> 01:35:35,920
through that. Yeah, not yet. Good thing. I'm sitting at the

1096
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:43,039
news desk. I think I think
the beard protects you. It saves a

1097
01:35:43,079 --> 01:35:47,760
lot of food, that's for sure, especially popcorn. I bet, do

1098
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:50,680
you do you like? Do you
oil it or something? That's what I

1099
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:54,399
put bomb in it? Do you
yeah? Okay, okay, yeah,

1100
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:57,720
that's what Otherwise it's just be all
over the place. The gentleman from the

1101
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,960
Hands of Spite who sat there yesterday, he said that too, he puts

1102
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,880
I think it was bomb, he
said, he puts in his beard.

1103
01:36:02,079 --> 01:36:05,119
Yep. A Miriam banishes in the
chat room. She says, I get

1104
01:36:05,159 --> 01:36:09,479
sleep paralysis, but now I know
what it is. It just annoys me.

1105
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:13,239
I'm aware when it's happening. Wow, that is sleep paralysis. Yeah,

1106
01:36:13,279 --> 01:36:15,600
it's it's freaky though, freaky stuff. I've had that a few times.

1107
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,439
Yeah. Yeah, but I did
have one time where I think I

1108
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,720
was like having a nightmare at the
same time, and I did have like

1109
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:26,279
this like demon girl on top of
me. Yeah, I couldn't move.

1110
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:29,359
Oh wow. Yeah, I didn't
know if I was awaker dreaming. And

1111
01:36:29,399 --> 01:36:31,800
then I woke up like the next
day and I was like, whoa that?

1112
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:38,720
But I like feel myself inside and
I just I'm trying to move and

1113
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:43,640
just nothings look like kind of you
know, it actually sounds kind of fun.

1114
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:50,520
Though it's disappointed that I don't.
It's kind of disappointing that its experienced

1115
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:54,920
it once in your life, so
you know, no, you really shouldn't

1116
01:36:54,920 --> 01:37:00,199
if it's really not. It is
not Actually, if you have it,

1117
01:37:00,319 --> 01:37:01,680
I feel like I'm missing out.
Like I don't know if you ever slept

1118
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:06,720
on your face and I've had it
then and it's I can't breathe, like,

1119
01:37:08,279 --> 01:37:10,439
because then you got them. I
think you're just about to die at

1120
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:14,680
that point. Yeah, but you're
kidding yourself. You know. It's weird.

1121
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,319
I never thought about this before,
but I so I don't. I

1122
01:37:17,279 --> 01:37:21,199
always sleep on my side always,
but for some reason, when I've had

1123
01:37:21,239 --> 01:37:25,600
the sleep paralysis, I've been on
my back at least that's at That's how

1124
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:28,119
I remember, Like I'm lying there, I'm on my back and it's like,

1125
01:37:28,239 --> 01:37:30,680
oh, someone is standing over me. This is horrible. So don't

1126
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:35,119
ever sleep on your back. Story. If you're gonna get anything out of

1127
01:37:35,159 --> 01:37:40,840
this, don't sleep on your back
exactly. Well, I hope we got

1128
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:45,199
a bad hip. Sorry, Well
I hope we've helped some people here today

1129
01:37:45,239 --> 01:37:48,279
with that. Absolutely. Yeah,
yeah, I think we have. It

1130
01:37:48,399 --> 01:37:53,880
is a it is a fascinating subject. Now, So, by the way,

1131
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,000
do you guys have any lyrics about
that? Or who? Right?

1132
01:37:56,039 --> 01:38:00,399
Who writes? I write the lyrics? Bread Crumbs is actually derived from the

1133
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:03,560
story of Hansel and Gretel. Okay, it's it's it's a song based on

1134
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:08,800
anti child trafficking. So I tied
the story of Hansel and Gretel into it.

1135
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:11,920
And there's a part of the part
where it says nibble nibble, little

1136
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:15,520
mouse. Yeah, always nibbling on
my house. That's from the Brothers grib

1137
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,319
Oh wow, okay, gotcha,
gotcha. So I do all the lyrics

1138
01:38:18,359 --> 01:38:23,039
for the band. Yeah, do
the other tracks who they have kind of

1139
01:38:23,159 --> 01:38:27,880
the themes where they're sort of specific
like that. Every I'm a history buff,

1140
01:38:28,239 --> 01:38:30,479
so I try to take stories and
like tell the story and getting the

1141
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,640
person's shoes and you know, and
and and put a modern twist to it.

1142
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:36,079
Yeah. Yeah, so very cool. Marie, what is it?

1143
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:42,720
Let the meet Cake Marie Antoinette,
And you know, I tried to write

1144
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,840
a song about, like, because
there's a lot of misinformation, you know,

1145
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,840
like whatever it be, whatever your
opinion is, wherever it lies,

1146
01:38:48,159 --> 01:38:51,479
but there is misinformation out there,
and I just I thought about, you

1147
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:56,520
know, how can I write a
song that's based upon that to get people

1148
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,319
to start paying attention. Yeah,
you know, because apparently if you dig

1149
01:38:59,399 --> 01:39:01,680
deep enough, she never actually said
that. She never actually said let the

1150
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:03,960
meat cake. Yeah, So that's
what the song is about. It's it's

1151
01:39:04,199 --> 01:39:08,079
it's my way of getting into her
shoes and telling her side of the story.

1152
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:12,000
Yeah, be headed for no reason. Correct, that's interesting apparently,

1153
01:39:12,199 --> 01:39:16,319
Yeah, they say, but that
could be misinformation. Yeah right, you

1154
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:19,920
know you never really know circle Yeah, yeah, definitely. No, that's

1155
01:39:20,039 --> 01:39:25,279
that's interesting. Where should uh the
time does go so fast? I want

1156
01:39:25,319 --> 01:39:28,359
to make sure we have time for
that track. But what should people know

1157
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:30,359
about? How to find you guys
online? Where to keep up with everything

1158
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,840
that you're doing? Obviously swore me
Fest is coming up in November, but

1159
01:39:34,199 --> 01:39:38,439
anything people should know? Website,
social media? Cody handle this one.

1160
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:41,680
Yeah, go ahead, look it
up. Problem you got a Cody.

1161
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:45,720
We're pretty much We're pretty much everywhere
we have after the Winter dot com.

1162
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:51,920
We have Instagram, Twitter, No
no Twitter yet, Instagram, Facebook,

1163
01:39:54,039 --> 01:40:01,399
YouTube, Twitter, Apple. I
can't tweet everything. I actually tried to

1164
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:04,560
make my Twitter into that of the
Winter Twitter because I already got like a

1165
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,720
good amount of get on that,
Cody, I want to tweet. It

1166
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:09,840
wouldn't let me change my name,
and I was just like, what the

1167
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:13,159
heck? Basically on every music platform. Yeah, yeah, we're on Spotify

1168
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:15,239
YouTube. I did want to mention
that, you know, we we have

1169
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:19,199
breadcrumbs on YouTube and we're trying to
push that. We want people to check

1170
01:40:19,239 --> 01:40:24,319
it out as much as possible.
Yeah, video definitely smash that subscribe button

1171
01:40:24,359 --> 01:40:26,720
if you like what you hear.
Is it? Is it a music video

1172
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:31,399
or is it? Ye? A
lot of people don't know about it.

1173
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:34,840
Yeah. Yeah, I don't think
Cake or Breadcrumbs is on it. But

1174
01:40:35,239 --> 01:40:40,239
uh, the other songs are on
SoundCloud as well. I haven't I haven't

1175
01:40:40,279 --> 01:40:43,840
added those two songs on SoundCloud if
people use that platform, yeah, yeah,

1176
01:40:44,319 --> 01:40:47,000
but maybe on our main channel right
now. On YouTube, yeah,

1177
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:54,600
I don't think it's ever ever.
I think it's on the the distro kid.

1178
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,800
Yeah. Yeah, you might get
confuss to YouTube. All all of

1179
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:00,680
our stuff is on YouTube, Okay, you can find it all on YouTube.

1180
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,359
It's just there's only a music video
for one song right now. Yeah,

1181
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:05,840
Jenny's just share a link in the
chat room. Is that the at

1182
01:41:06,279 --> 01:41:11,039
after the winter official YouTube? That's
the one? Thank you, thank you,

1183
01:41:11,199 --> 01:41:13,399
thank you? What was it?
Was the nank Jenny? Jenny,

1184
01:41:13,399 --> 01:41:15,840
thank you? Jenny appreciate that.
Yeah, she loves the shirts too,

1185
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,920
She was saying on on because she's
wwesome on Facebook. You will be available

1186
01:41:19,039 --> 01:41:21,520
very soon, yes, yes,
well she's gonna get one of these,

1187
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:26,359
so absolutely, Yeah, that's right, very cool. Yeah, awesome,

1188
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:29,640
all right, well we are I
want to make sure we have time to

1189
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:31,560
get the Hunt will be the last
track that we play. But guys,

1190
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:34,640
thank you so much and thank you
so much, thank you. I know

1191
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:36,800
I wanted to give a shout out
real quick to alter of. Next to

1192
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:42,439
those are our boys man, yeah
and carried by six Yeah good sandwiches.

1193
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:47,880
Oh, Anthony damm Bro, I
don't know if I'm saying that correctly,

1194
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:50,720
he says in the chat room.
Remember the Bomb Shelter, Oh, I

1195
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:53,920
remember the Boy. Did you guys
ever play there back in the day.

1196
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:58,039
I know you took about eleven your
hiatus. Maybe that that might be directed

1197
01:41:58,079 --> 01:42:00,920
to me specifically the Bomb Shelter.
It was a venue right here in Manchester

1198
01:42:01,079 --> 01:42:04,000
on Eddie Road. It's where the
Planet Fitness is now, not in that

1199
01:42:04,119 --> 01:42:08,960
exact like it was behind where the
Planet Fitness is. But I excused to

1200
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:11,439
plan a lot of bands and we
splay at the Bomb Shelter all the time.

1201
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:14,279
Brings a distant bell. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, all the

1202
01:42:14,399 --> 01:42:15,880
all the metal bands in the areas
to play at the Bomb Shelter. I've

1203
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:20,600
always wanted to have a Bomb Shelter. So yeah, we're playing here man,

1204
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:25,760
this is going to be that the
common grounds. No, that's something

1205
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:29,960
else. That's brattle borrow or something
like that. All the common ground that

1206
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:36,079
isn't. Yeah, all right,
guys, thank you again, so thank

1207
01:42:36,079 --> 01:42:40,359
you after the winter and check that
all. And by the way, if

1208
01:42:40,359 --> 01:42:42,279
you miss any part of today show, it'll be up in just a little

1209
01:42:42,279 --> 01:42:45,079
bit at w m H radio dot
org and on my website Matt Connerton dot

1210
01:42:45,159 --> 01:42:49,159
com. And uh here it is. This is the hunt from after the

1211
01:42:49,199 --> 01:43:15,199
Winter. Check this out. So
we're very last, lay on y'all well

1212
01:43:18,239 --> 01:43:42,840
heart well, very very art was
too well yea looks well very tall by

1213
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:57,159
myself away last white yeah, well
glad play last wait on y'all well glave.

1214
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:23,119
We really love child very well ware
o god yes side world that's will

1215
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:42,359
become by side pray last ye well
bred by that child's side well ware take

1216
01:44:44,000 --> 01:45:00,720
side we'll call to grow child way
while south down, Well, I will

1217
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:30,439
charge sir very well boy will the
words well very calm where very very sounds

1218
01:45:30,600 --> 01:47:19,520
right, very well swell swell way
well about that word was as black blood

1219
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:43,399
bard are where wash or rag like
bide at night we war stars lay slam