WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.399 --> 00:00:07.480 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jaken Zalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:14.599 fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services Ensure your most Prized Possessions, katz R 3 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:20.399 two SAD and iHeart Radio Station. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to While 4 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:23.120 on the Ball. You know, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Vera. 5 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:26.480 He's Jakin's awesome kind of guy. Jake sit in today, Welcome to 6 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:32.560 Monday. Hope you're endorsed because it sucks outside. Sucks outside. You didn't 7 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:37.520 even say hi, you just I've been here thirty five years and I love 8 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:39.840 too, so I love you so. And I don't even think it's hot. 9 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:43.600 I'd rather be hot than like two degrees in Colorado. But it sucks 10 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:46.759 today. I don't know all of a sudden, Well, it started yesterday 11 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:49.920 and I told you, I, you know, my wife and my daughter 12 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:54.799 and I went to a matinee at a part at part place. We come 13 00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:56.920 out of the theater. You know, it's always nice and cool in the 14 00:00:56.799 --> 00:01:00.159 theater. It was three thirty, Yeah you were. And I stepped on 15 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.760 the pavement in the parking lot and I thought somebody had set me on fire. 16 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:07.879 It was I couldn't. And the thing is I golfed on Saturday. 17 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:11.599 It seemed nearest. That's why I say it's like a all of a sudden 18 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:15.200 it hit uh. And I love Tucson. I have no complaints about Tucson. 19 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:17.519 Even it's one hundred and twelve. I just gotta get used to it. 20 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:19.920 I'm getting old. I'm just get off my launch, damn it. 21 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:23.680 And it's really hot today. How hot is it home? My cha plays 22 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:27.840 one hundred and forty five thousand. Probably, Yeah, it's a concrete jungle 23 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:32.120 up there. Yeah, it's bad here. It's just it's I don't want 24 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:34.040 to be miserable and all blah blah, but it's bad if you're indoors. 25 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:38.760 Good if one six on my you know, my bring on my computer, 26 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:42.000 say that it's one or six to get one hundred and thirteen. Today, 27 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:46.280 I think it feels like it at four o'clock is the hottest, you know, 28 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:48.840 four between four and five o'clock because it you know, we've been we've 29 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:53.400 been in it all day. Um, it's it's it's it's bad and it's 30 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:57.760 weird because Steve, we've been this hot before, but it just feels hotter. 31 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:01.079 Yeah, we're getting. I'm getting now, but you know, hey, 32 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:02.879 it is what it is, man, we get it, and it's 33 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:06.120 really luck. It's gonna be like for a week, maybe a week and 34 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.560 a half, and then it'll it'll start to go the other way. Well, 35 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:12.280 yeah, it's really well. You also kind of get used to it. 36 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:16.960 No, I'm talking about the swampy. Oh well yeah, ugly sluck. 37 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:21.039 I do a stay inside, go walk them all, go to a 38 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:25.240 movie typical. I'm all, that's old people's stuff. I'll still golf. 39 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:29.759 I'll still go. I nearly quit the game on Saturday, but uh I 40 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:32.840 rallied, but I'm gonna keep playing. I had an eagle on Saturday. 41 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:36.759 You hit an eagle. I had an eagle. I had an eagle. 42 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:43.800 I no, yeah, I eagle the eleventh hole at at at arizlanda Nashville. 43 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:46.520 I got. I got on the green in two and I I my 44 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:52.280 second shot three wood from like two twenty and I stuck at about four feet 45 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.719 from the hole and I made the putt. It's easier to be easier to 46 00:02:54.800 --> 00:03:01.120 believe that you hit an eagle rather than and it's I here, this is 47 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:05.280 this. This people who've been who are scrub golfers like me. Well, 48 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:09.520 we'll feel this. I was nineteen over on the day after, after ten 49 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:15.240 holes, nineteen over, I was shooting worse than double bogie golf. Okay, 50 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:19.000 nineteen over, and then I fit. I played the last eight holes 51 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:21.759 in three over because I had him eagle and a birdie in the last eight 52 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:23.800 hole. You must have been dressed for you a kid. And it's like 53 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:25.639 I was ready to quit after the tenth hole, and by the end, 54 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:30.319 I'm like I was ready to play another eighteen. And that's that's a very 55 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:32.759 common things. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. Don't for 56 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:36.400 you, that's what I don't play. Okay, Hey, well, welcome 57 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.759 to the show, everybody. We have a nice show today. Kind of 58 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:44.280 wrapping up of a few things. Base Well, Michael ev who's now the 59 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:47.000 new calls now the Sports and a full time sports columnist at the start. 60 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:52.759 I'm Greg Hanson, who was the has been the calumnist for about seventy or 61 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:57.520 eighty years and who is kind of retired but he's still doing his some part 62 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:00.599 time stuff is Sunday Notes column, which he didn't do this last week. 63 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:02.639 We're gonna have to yell him and yell at him for not getting the notes 64 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:06.639 column, but uh, Michael lives the full time sports columnist. Um, 65 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:12.039 Jason Justin Spears is the is the you of a football beat writer, which 66 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:14.919 means they'll also do baseball if they keep doing things the way they did. 67 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:18.240 Bruce is still the basketball guy. And then Brett Farah's a friend of ours, 68 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:23.920 is the new sports editor. Finley, Yeah, we gotta get Brett 69 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:28.639 on so so. And you were interested in the column he just wrote about 70 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:30.759 Jay Johnson. Yeah, and Oney thinks when you send me that note this 71 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:34.920 morning, I wanted to ask whomever he's been no better guy than him, 72 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:39.720 to ask, is the what makes Jay Johnson tick? He kind of he 73 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:43.319 kind of put it in the column, but you know, because he's this 74 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:46.839 doesn't happen by accident? Would J Johnson is really good? He's really good. 75 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:48.839 He's really There's a reason why Lhu went after him, right, And 76 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:51.800 yeah, exactly, And you know, I get it. You know, 77 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:57.480 if you're an Arizona fan, you get bitter about coaches and players that leave 78 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:00.199 and stuff like that. I stopped getting bitter about players a long time ago. 79 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:05.279 Coaches a little less unless I really want them to leave um. And 80 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:09.279 it's not so much said he left. I think it's the way how he 81 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:14.600 left. Well, and you can't you can't excuse you can't uh fault him 82 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:17.519 for for the money, right, the bigger program, better program, at 83 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:21.240 least perceptually right. It's it's I think it's I think you weren't here. 84 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:27.279 Think back to when Larry Smith left. Larry, you know, he got 85 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:30.120 the program going. You were you know, they were a top ten team, 86 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:32.959 bat a sue a bunch of times in the USC came call and you 87 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:38.879 blame him. I didn't blame him, but people didn't like was that they 88 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:41.800 you know, they had played in the hall, in the Aloha Bowl and 89 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:45.120 on the way home they dropped him off in La and he went and took 90 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:46.160 the job. Oh yeah, okay, and he didn't come home. I 91 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.399 think there was more to it, even with the with the the good good 92 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:53.120 good bye finger didn't he didn't. He can all that that had nothing to 93 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.319 do with him. Believe what was that about. Oh, he just threw 94 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:58.959 the finger at Arizona fans. That was an eighty five that happened. Okay, 95 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:01.800 that was because that was because he was on the verge of taking Arizona 96 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.680 to the Bowl game for the first time in forever, and he was getting 97 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:10.040 booed in a loss to uh to Ucla, and so he threw the finger 98 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:14.720 at the That was the year before that, he didn't throw the finger and 99 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:18.000 then left. What what what people were sad about is that he took the 100 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:21.160 job and didn't even bother to come home with the team. And then all 101 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:25.319 the coaches. He took all his coaches with him and they all snuck out. 102 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:30.000 Who stayed Marlins That was it. And that and all the coaches got 103 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:33.639 out of town. You know, they did the Baltimore Colts thing. They 104 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:36.920 snuck out overnight, cleared out the office. He didn't talk to the players 105 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:42.360 that I don't know, but but they they you know, there was no 106 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:44.959 good buys or anything. People were pissed. Okay, so it was that. 107 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:48.680 Okay, I'll get that. But it's a great comparison because it's exactly 108 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:51.480 not exactly, but it's similar to smiler. Yeah. No, come on, 109 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:58.240 if Gabrielle runs into George Clooney, your history, I'm done. I'm 110 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:00.959 done your history. Yeah, he I don't blame there's about six guys. 111 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.839 If they knock on our door, you know, my stuff is packed on 112 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:06.839 them out of there in fifteen minutes or she's gone. He said, you 113 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:10.240 keep that yea, yeah, you keep the house. I'm going with him 114 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:13.680 and to live with him in Italy. I was gonna say stuff, stuff 115 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:15.079 happens. The word similar to that, stuff happens like that, you know 116 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:17.959 where they get a better deal. Yeah, no, you can't. You 117 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:20.839 can't blame him. But but you know, as as as as as Leve 118 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:26.360 pointed out, Arizona got beat on June twenty first, and on June twenty 119 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:30.279 fifth, LSU announced Johnson as their coach. That means that he was talking 120 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:35.759 to them before sometime sometime during the College World Series. Did he ever did 121 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:41.879 to but um, I love this. Did he ever talk to anybody locally 122 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:44.279 ever? Ever? Probably not, I don't know because he would have been 123 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:46.839 quoted. We joked that he probably had somebody put all this stuff in a 124 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:51.360 pod and shipped to get back his wife, his wife. I'm sure he 125 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:55.360 was married. So say, just come on, just put just get all 126 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:57.600 the overs, get all this stuff, funny like and get over here. 127 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:01.360 Yeah. So we're eading cagn tonight. You know, I I look and 128 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:05.959 you know my son who was in in the sports information office you know during 129 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:07.839 that time, and he helped with baseball and stuff. He loves J. 130 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:09.480 Johnson. Well, he's good. He loves J. Johnson. He says 131 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:13.759 he's a good guy, and I'll believe him. I'm not. If this 132 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:20.319 was football, I might be a little more you know, h pissed about 133 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:22.120 it, But I'm not. Well, let's kind of go through this real 134 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.920 quick. I don't think Dick Tooy had it. Maybe he did not during 135 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:26.920 our time when we covered him. Did he had a chance to leave? 136 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:30.720 He did, He had a couple of chance too. I'm trying to remember. 137 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:35.039 I think, Um, let me think there were I think there were 138 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:37.840 a couple of Big ten schools that came after he did have some opportunities. 139 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:41.279 And I wouldn't know off something like if Richard told me, if you're listening 140 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:46.440 to Snow or anybody anybody, I believe there were a couple of chances, 141 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:50.159 um, and I can't or maybe it was one of the Florida schools or 142 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:54.000 he had chances to leave. And if anybody listening from the Smiths era, 143 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:58.360 like uh luk our guys who are on the show often are you know, 144 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.720 and again, did he meet with you guys when he when he landed, 145 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:03.759 and after you got the jobs, need to come back and say goodbye. 146 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:07.960 The other thing that pissed everybody off was that he was one of the coaches 147 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:11.039 and like either the East West Shrine Game or the Senior Bolt, so he's 148 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:16.399 on the sidelines of that as a coach, and well, of course kissed 149 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:18.679 some people off. Makes sense too. You know, my my advice would 150 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:22.120 have been, your coach, don't wear any don't wear you of A, 151 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:24.120 don't wear USC, just wear a you know, wear on Nancy double a 152 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:28.720 or wear a PAC ten thing. That's tough. But he's sitting there in 153 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:31.960 maroon pants. I could picture him. You had maroon pants, a white 154 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:35.840 sweater with the USC logo on it. That's tough. You're running to your 155 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:41.399 wife, Sullivan's what are you doing? Well, I'm no longer with you, 156 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:46.639 Jay, get over it, already, get over it. Oh you 157 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.399 want some Georgia will buy? Okay? How mad? How mad would people 158 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:54.120 have been if we had gone to compactible They would have been pissed. That 159 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:56.360 would have been lost. And I was gonna bring that up because let's tell 160 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:58.720 me, Okay, we'll see I'm not sure about that. You said, 161 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:03.799 yes, uh, Lou, of course twice with Kentucky twice and he turned 162 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.840 them down. And but you don't have that anymore, he would have laughed, 163 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:13.200 I had certain Kentucky not screwed up. Right. Well, people here 164 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:16.759 are very provincial about being here. They feel like there's no better place to 165 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:20.960 live. Sure, and we you and I know that's not true. You 166 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:24.120 know, of course I told you this story before um Miller Miller had a 167 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.600 chance to leave to Maryland, right, And one of the former colleague kind 168 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:31.519 of TV person says to me, why would you ever leave? Tu Son, 169 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:33.399 look at this and it was like April, it was nice. You 170 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.720 know obviously, have you ever lived in Miami for five million dollars a year? 171 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:41.360 You leave because it's a perfect opportunity. I mean, I love two 172 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:45.120 song, like I say, you can give me five million dollars to go 173 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:50.399 to Miami or wherever, dude get the pod going. Yeah, but see, 174 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:52.399 you know, I mean, I've been here my entire life. I've 175 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:56.919 had I had opportunities as a newspaper back always and I did interview with a 176 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:58.000 couple of places, and so what of my wife, we're both in news, 177 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:03.480 but your two sons. We never we never felt that there was a 178 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:07.759 better place. And there isn't and there is, there isn't. Ray's family, 179 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:11.480 Uh, traffic called us and and both of our families are here. 180 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:16.679 There's some things. But if you're given, you're gonna give j Jay there's 181 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:18.720 always one hundred and fifty thousand at that time or whatever. Yeah, and 182 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.360 his wife about similar. Yeah, you're done. Wow. It was funny 183 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:26.600 because after I got laid off at TP, I had already accepted a job 184 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:30.720 at the city right. I got a job there, and like on my 185 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:35.159 literally this is no lie. On my way home, I got a call 186 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:37.600 from San Diego Gas and Electric and I said, no, I've already taken 187 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:41.279 this other job. Had I not taken this other job, we might have 188 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.799 wounded up in San Diego because I know that they were gonna pay me a 189 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:48.960 whole lot more, because you know, and San Diego is one place that 190 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:52.000 I could live, Um, but your family, but I have family here, 191 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:54.480 and it would you know, even if with a great offer, it 192 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:58.120 would have been an extremely hard decision because we at that time, we thought 193 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:03.600 about all the things that we do that are because of we have family here. 194 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.639 Of course, whether it's going a football game, you know, having 195 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:15.039 a party and you have a big, strong family. Hugel is the only 196 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:16.679 one that left. Well, they went, they went over to rock and 197 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:20.320 roll and say in southern California. They went and lived in La. My 198 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:24.840 two sisters. Everybody would do the same and giving the same. But but 199 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:26.840 the bitterness. We'll talk to him level about the bitterness. We've seen the 200 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:33.399 bitterness. I went on and saw all the comments from Jed Fish who went 201 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:39.519 on Twitter and wish Jade Johnson good luck in the tournament, and people lit 202 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:43.600 up Jed Fish. Somebody said, this is the first is the first misstep 203 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:46.159 you've made. You got to fix this. You know, people are telling 204 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:50.679 to delete the tweet. People are saying, Jed you know you clearly don't. 205 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:54.200 We thought you knew two son, You clearly don't. Stuff like that. 206 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.200 It was pretty funny, That's really funny. That's probably what they were 207 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.639 going for to uh people. That's why I don't want Twitter. I mean, 208 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:05.960 I don't already post anything because you could say blue. We didn't say 209 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:09.279 d you said white. Why didn't see black? Black? When shut up? 210 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:11.120 But I mean, come on, it was entertaining. This is bar 211 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:13.919 stuff. You go to a bar and you talked to bart to your bartender, 212 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:18.440 Well, you know, today I had a tough day. That stuff 213 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:20.320 was fun though it was entertaining. There are a couple of people sent you 214 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:22.399 know, coach, you know, we get the idea it then, but 215 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:26.600 most of them were like, you need to lead this, you're wrong. 216 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:31.200 A lot of a lot of memes, you know, just you know, 217 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:35.279 somebody shaking their head to say no, or you'll get that, get that 218 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:37.759 out of it. Was a whole bunch of that. What's that? What's 219 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:41.080 what's the mom saying? Uh, it's best to say nothing at all. 220 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:46.679 I feel really good to say he would just be nice. Yeah, we 221 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:50.279 know your friends, but no, ye just call him up, tell them 222 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:54.480 personally, don't don't tweet it all right. Uh, we got left coming 223 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:58.000 up here, and then Troy Mike left coming up talk about his new job 224 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.720 as calumnist and uh, how he's gonna like that? And then Troy Hutchinson 225 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:07.559 was up at the UH Section seven basketball event up in Phoenix, playing a 226 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:11.679 bunch of games in the UH in the Cardinal Stadium, and so well he 227 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:15.919 saw the all the players who coaches, all the coaches, we'll just get 228 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:20.200 his thoughts on that whole band. 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We're doing fine, Thanks for joining us. 286 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:57.000 Tonight's the championship game of the College World Series of something you'll probably be 287 00:18:57.079 --> 00:19:04.200 watching intently. Jay found your column intriguing about the coach It was it wasn't 288 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:07.400 so much about the coaches, It was about us as a fan base. 289 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:14.440 You know that that people or what it's about it? Right? Yeah? 290 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:18.759 But Michael, you know, uh, this whole thing with j Johnson, 291 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.960 because the other thing was that Jed. You probably saw Jed Fish went on 292 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:27.359 and wished wished Jay. I mean it went wished Jay Johnson good luck, 293 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.720 and people just like got all over him. You've been here long enough to 294 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:34.279 know the fan base. Did you think that was, like Crappier, was 295 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:42.640 highly expected? I would say that the reaction to Jed's tweet was expected for 296 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:48.759 sure. Um, this is a this is a multi layer kind of situation 297 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:53.039 here, and I don't even think I got into all of the layers that 298 00:19:53.319 --> 00:20:02.680 exists that like contribute to the vitriol that people feel toward j Johnson. I 299 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:06.960 didn't even mention how he took some players with him to Arizona and LF You're 300 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:10.960 including a very prominent you know, hitter and Jacob Barry, who ended up 301 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:14.440 being a first round pick in lost year's draft. Who I mean, gosh, 302 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:17.920 if she had been the first baseman, let's say, on the twenty 303 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:22.839 twenty two Wildcats, I mean, who knows how far they could have gotten. 304 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:30.680 Riley Cooper, the left handed reliever. He's been a huge weapon out 305 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:34.680 of the bullpen for LSU during this run of Theirs. And a guy who 306 00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:40.640 can pitch multiple innings for you can basically you know, both writers and lefty, 307 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:45.799 durable, reliable again, the kind of guy that could have used here 308 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:48.559 and here in two tund in twenty twenty two. And the other part that 309 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:52.640 I didn't even get into, and I got into a lot of the feelings 310 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:59.839 and issues that came up then and have lingered until now, was that, 311 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:04.920 you know, Jay didn't say goodbye or acknowledge the fan base or the town 312 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:08.559 or anything of that nature. And I just feel like, you know, 313 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:11.880 we've been a good tr move to do that right, you know, like 314 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:17.759 take out a take out an ad in our paper, say thank you too 315 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:19.680 soon. You know, I couldn't have done it without you last time in 316 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:23.079 my life. So a better opportunity came along, you know, I'll never 317 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:26.519 forget my time there. Blah blah blah blah. And he didn't do he 318 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:30.759 didn't do that, and he took players with him, and he did something 319 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.720 that no one else had ever done, which is leaves the ariors on a 320 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:38.359 baseball program for another program. And I understand why people feel the way they 321 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:41.240 feel about him because of all those things. But given the time you've spent 322 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:45.240 with him, which you've spent a lot of time, given the column, 323 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:48.880 he's probably not that guy. He's not probably not a warm and fuzzy guy, 324 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:52.400 not a guy who's gonna put his arm around you and say, you 325 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:55.240 know, Michael, this is off the record, but you know, blah 326 00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:59.039 blah blah. He's not gonna be that guy who he's emotional or whatever. 327 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:03.960 Man, that's a good question. Um, I don't know. I don't 328 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:08.799 know. I do know that. I mean, he's just really competitive, 329 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:18.920 like he approaches his job like a lot of football coaches approach their job with 330 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:25.200 a level of intensity and paroxity. That you don't always see him baseball. 331 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:30.599 I mean, it is hard to it's hard to have that kind of makeup, 332 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:34.480 and in this particular sport because it's such a long season. There's so 333 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:38.440 many ups and downs, but you can't you know, freak out over every 334 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:45.240 single loss um that you incur over the course of the season, because you'll 335 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:49.599 just carry yourself apart. But he manages to do it. And that's just 336 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:56.640 kind of his his makeup and his approach to things. And I didn't get 337 00:22:56.680 --> 00:22:59.759 to know him on that level, you know, like the way he would 338 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:03.720 to act with his players, but I always heard good things about it, 339 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:07.720 and I know that his interactions with us were very positive and I could get 340 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:12.200 him on the phone anytime I needed to, and he was very easy to 341 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:17.119 work with and all those good things. Um, I just think he you 342 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:19.640 know, he had a little bit better advice, you know, yeah, 343 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:23.599 from a pr standpoint, uh you know about you know, his sort of 344 00:23:23.599 --> 00:23:27.480 I did strategy that it would have smoothed things over at least a little bit. 345 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:32.240 So so now you know, and this this with this column you and 346 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:36.160 with what happened with Jed you and and not not that you're you're you're unaware 347 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:37.240 of all this, but you know, writing columns now, it's gonna be 348 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:41.240 a whole different deal. Let me ask you when you when you you know, 349 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:45.440 as a writer covering football or whatever. People complain about stuff, but 350 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:51.359 they probably less complain about you than complaining about something you've told them. You 351 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:52.920 know, you know the difference because they're not you know, they're not gonna 352 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:56.079 be so upset at you. They're gonna be upset that, you know, 353 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:59.799 the UFA ran this play or they couldn't win a game or whatever. Now 354 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:00.960 you know, you're in a position where there's going to be a lot of 355 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:04.480 stuff being directed at you. We all know how how you know half half 356 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:07.440 of would hand, half of the people who read hands and hate him and 357 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:14.119 half love him. Are you ready for that? I hope so. Um. 358 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.279 I mean even that column that you guys were talking about, the one 359 00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:22.640 I ran wrote the other day, I got some people on Twitter going, 360 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:25.000 hey, that was a swing and a miss. Yeah, you know, 361 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:29.240 like you you you've missed the point. You don't get it? Um, 362 00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:33.839 which had you know what, that's all part for the course. It's okay, 363 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:37.880 UM. I welcome the feedback. Um. Like I said, there 364 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:40.640 were some you know, after seeing some of these comments, I was like, 365 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:44.480 you know what I did kind of miss a couple of things maybe yeah, 366 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:47.400 um, in the course of this column, because there there's just so 367 00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:49.920 much to unpack. Um. And it was you know, sort of a 368 00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:53.640 little impromptu um when when they advanced, I was like, you know what, 369 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:56.559 I feel like you need to write about this and kind of address some 370 00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:00.400 of these issues that have been lingering for two years now. Um. But 371 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:03.480 they that's all part of it, you know, and that's cool and I 372 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:08.480 welcome it. As I said on Twitter today, my hil in box is 373 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:14.640 open and I look forward to the feedback. And you know, hey, 374 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:18.720 this is going to be something of a learning process for me, you know, 375 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.400 as I kind of try to find my columnist voice, if you will. 376 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:26.839 Um, not to get like two inside baseball here, but I was 377 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:30.480 I was a really flowery writer, I would say when I first started out, 378 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:36.079 like I'm merely twenty and I've definitely sort of evolved into more of a 379 00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:42.200 minimalist, like focusing more on giving as much information out there as opposed to 380 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:48.839 clever lines or or or whatnot. And and as I sit down and kind 381 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.680 of you know, write different pieces, I feel like I need to find 382 00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:56.319 a balance between those two. So that'll be a bit of a process. 383 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.440 But again, happy to have everybody along for the journal, so let me 384 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:04.000 kind of go back to Jay Johnson, walking back just a bit because because 385 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:08.680 I wanted to ask you even before Jay got ahold of you or for us 386 00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:15.519 today. Um, what makes Jay john tick other than him being just wanting 387 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:18.400 to win so much? Rich Rod was like that and we all know how 388 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.200 that turned out, because they hate to lose. But let me take you 389 00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:22.599 say this, having played baseball, having know a lot of a lot of 390 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:27.000 good baseball coaches. Um, his success is not by accident. This doesn't 391 00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:30.960 happen by accident. He's not good just by accident. He's very good. 392 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.680 So the guys must love playing for him for some reason. So what makes 393 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.319 him tick? And too, I'm assuming you try to track him down to 394 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:44.839 explain why he left. I think the second point, I don't think I 395 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:49.079 ever went to those lines kind of them, and to some degree, I'm 396 00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:52.680 kind of of a mind that they're gone, They're not here anymore, They're 397 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.839 not really part of this. This is more about, as as we was 398 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.880 mentioned at the top, kind of about the feelings that people here have about 399 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:06.680 him and that whole situation. As the question number one, I think there's 400 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:11.559 a couple of things. One is just how thorough he is, how much 401 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:18.680 he prepares for each and every game, film study, scouting reports, you 402 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.279 know, you name it. He's on top of it. So that's one 403 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:26.920 thing. And I think another is just his eye for talent. You know, 404 00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:32.279 Nolan Gorman and Matthew Libertore I think are a couple of good examples. 405 00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:38.119 I think they're both with the Cardinals right now. The guys that Jay had, 406 00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:44.519 you know, his recruiting classes who completely blew up and became too good 407 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:47.759 to get to campus, you know, ended up being first round picks and 408 00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.839 quickly became major leaguers like Ryan Campos, the catcher at Arizona State, the 409 00:27:52.920 --> 00:28:00.000 one time Arizona commit, great hitter, left handed hitter who also happens to 410 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:04.799 play catcher, just in another example of like Jay is able to see something 411 00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:12.920 in baseball players at an early age that he can identify, and he knows 412 00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:18.279 that these guys will will pan out and become really good players. And I 413 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:23.359 think the other thing is he really loves and advocates for college baseball. Like 414 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:27.400 I don't think he's someone who, you know, his ambition someday is to 415 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.440 coach, you know, to manage the New York Nakles, you know. 416 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:36.400 I think he's like kind of the pie piper of college ball. And he's 417 00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:40.920 really good at going into the living room and making a convincing argument to someone 418 00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:44.240 who might be on the fence about you know, what's the best path for 419 00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:47.400 them, you know, to go into the draft or to go to college 420 00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:51.599 for three or four years. And and you can win people over. And 421 00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:53.720 as a result, he gets a lot of really good players in his program 422 00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:56.440 and he wins a lot of ball games. All right, So what are 423 00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:02.680 you looking forward to the most with this new gig? What the what excites 424 00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:07.160 you about this job? Well, as I was in my previous stop for 425 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:12.039 about six months of serving the sports that are kind of notice like, there's 426 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:18.359 certain stories that are just going through the cracks, you know. Um. 427 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:22.440 You know, Greg Hansen, our long time columnists, is in a you 428 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:26.960 know, slightly different role now he's only writing, you know, two times 429 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.400 a week, um so, and he writes about high schools a lot. 430 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.480 He writes about team of college. But I think there are a lot of 431 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:40.079 stories in those areas that are are not being told good stories. I think 432 00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:45.680 there's a market um out there that's being underserved. Um. And so I'm 433 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.799 going to try to tell a lot of those stories. Find those stories about, 434 00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:55.960 you know, whether they're just uh student athletes who are excelling on the 435 00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:59.240 field, or they've got some uh, you know, some something going on 436 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:03.400 in their personal life or family life, or they've overcome some obstacles, um, 437 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.400 those sorts of things, or something that I'm really looking forward to on 438 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.519 top of, you know, just being another voice when it comes to like, 439 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.160 you know, the big stuff. You know, like you of a 440 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.599 football and you and even you have a basketball, which I haven't written very 441 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.960 much about at all over the years, and that that'll be fun and interesting 442 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:27.079 to kind of dive into. And I'm sure the feedback will be very favorable. 443 00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:32.440 Uh, this novice coming in from uh, you know, from from 444 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:37.559 the corner here, UM, firing up some shots when it comes to basketball. 445 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.160 But um, the main thing is just you know, I want to 446 00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:45.279 I think we need to tell more stories. That's kind of what this is, 447 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:49.519 this big is all about. UM, the main job that we have. 448 00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:52.680 We have this huge community, we have all these high schools, we 449 00:30:52.759 --> 00:31:00.400 have prominent successful junior college athletes, and we need to we need to serve 450 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:04.240 the community. UM those stories. So let me you've been here a few 451 00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:07.680 I might be six seven years right now from a big market and you know 452 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.640 the market LA's big time stuff, and you become friends with a lot of 453 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:15.599 your subjects Jed included, I would assume I don't I'm maybe reading too much 454 00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.960 into that. You're close to Jed Jet mentions you you can have recovered him 455 00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.920 for the last two years. How is it going to feel when at some 456 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.480 point you're gonna have to get on him and be tough on him? Same 457 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.079 with Tommy although you're not you're not a Tommy guy because you're not there every 458 00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:30.799 day. How is that going to be how you think it's gonna be? 459 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:36.279 Yeah, you know, look, I wrote some critical stuff about Dave laon 460 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:42.279 um this past baseball season, the former pitching coach who would let go by 461 00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:48.440 the program. That was hard. It was really hard to do that because 462 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:53.119 Daid Laon is a great guy. I love Dave l Like everyone who's ever 463 00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:57.200 met Dave Lawn loves him Um. And he wanted to be a book one 464 00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.720 time, you know about up at the Maggios that I that I devoured and 465 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.559 the kids that would be really good and it was, Um. I mean, 466 00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:07.960 he's a great dude. So those things are hard. To me, 467 00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:13.559 the way I always put it and look at it is am I being fair? 468 00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:16.799 No? I mean that you never want to get personal, you know. 469 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:21.720 I try to use like data. You know, if someone is not 470 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:27.599 getting the job done, and you know, and and they're being paid a 471 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.759 lot of money to do a job, you know, you can always kind 472 00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:35.559 of go to the bottom line, you know, the results and point to 473 00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.480 that. And if, you know, if I ever cross that line into 474 00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:45.440 the realm of unfairness or you know, not being fair to to the subject, 475 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:47.920 then they have every right to complain about it and reach out to me 476 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:52.400 and we can have a discussion and you know, maybe they'll all be the 477 00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.039 error of my way. Yeah, but not now. You get to write 478 00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:59.000 what you think, not just what you know. So there's a little bit, 479 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:00.519 you know, there's a little bit of fuzziness in there, right, 480 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.079 I mean you can I mean, yes, you're gonna want You're gonna want 481 00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.359 to be able to back it up with with data and stuff like that. 482 00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:07.640 But in the end, it's like, Okay, this is what I think, 483 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:12.400 and I think this guy sucks, and you can say that even if 484 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:16.200 somebody else doesn't think that he does. Right, Yeah, I mean maybe 485 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:21.839 I look, I would even with the nil um era upon us, where 486 00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:23.960 you know, you can sort of argue that players are getting paid, you 487 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:30.079 will not see me write a sentence like that about his student actletes probably ever, 488 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:35.559 right. You know. Now with coaches it's a different story, right, 489 00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.839 you know, because I mean they're high profile, they're highly paid. 490 00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:44.319 Um, they're they're grown up here to win that they're grown ups, they're 491 00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:49.599 professionals, right, and so they're they have opened themselves up to screw me 492 00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.799 um as a result of facts. So if that's gonna that is going to 493 00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:58.680 happen from time to time, you know, like if football, you know, 494 00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:02.240 barring injuries to pay go four and eight this season or something, then 495 00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:09.280 I think that Jetfishes opened himself up to criticism and actually would probably acknowledge that 496 00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:15.039 himself, you know. Um. So you know, like I said, 497 00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.760 actually I'm gonna try to be fair even if I have to criticize somebody. 498 00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:21.079 Well, you always have to be the right, you have to be. 499 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.719 That's one of the requirements of the whole thing. So Michael, thanks a 500 00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:28.159 bunch. When do we are you gonna write to two three four times a 501 00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:31.239 week? What Twitter your schedule? I don't know yet. That's still I 502 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:36.079 figured out I would. I would guess something along the line of three times 503 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.480 a week. Sometimes it's going to be maybe long takeouts. I'm still going 504 00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:45.880 to cover baseball to a great extent as well. And as I mentioned on 505 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.039 Twitter, this is all going to kind of really get rolling towards the end 506 00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:52.639 of July, after I take a little time off and get through the MLB 507 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.480 Draft here coming up. So okay, I'm looking forward to it, and 508 00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.159 I thank you guys for having me on. Wait. Predictions for tonight. 509 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:05.519 Oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna stay Florida wins it. I just I don't 510 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.280 know. It felt like yesterday that Alice was kind of running out of pictures, 511 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:10.360 but maybe that was a strategic thing, you know, they just fitted 512 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:14.239 the game was out of hand and they were just gonna go to the back 513 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:17.719 of the bullpen um. But yeah, even if that does happen, that 514 00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.360 will be history repeating itself because the exact same thing happened to Jay in twenty 515 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.079 sixteen, winning the first game of the finals and then losing the next two. 516 00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.760 So we'll see great. Thank you, Michael good Links a much man. 517 00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:34.519 Looking forward to talking to you about stuff going down the road. Appreciate 518 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.800 it. Thanks. Michael left from the Arizona Day, the start a new 519 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.480 venture for him. Congrats, very cool new columns. And we haven't heading 520 00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.119 I mean like forty other guys that coming along and written columns like Jack mcgruger 521 00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:49.920 and other guys. But nobody, wait a second, there's another newspaper here 522 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.320 for a long while. You guys don't even count. I know, I 523 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:57.239 know that's how you feel. We did, but there hasn't been a different 524 00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:00.119 lead columnists for forty years, early eighties, nineteen eighty three or something. 525 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.239 Yeah, it'll be fun to have Michael around. Let's he's a good friend. 526 00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.519 Zako. All right, let's hit the road. We'll take a break. 527 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.000 We're gonna come back. We'll take your calls five two zero four one 528 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:13.840 six seventy four furday. We'll talk about the milestone that we hit on Friday. 529 00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.480 So's were you back? Oh? You and me? All right, 530 00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:20.960 Jason don't have been here a little bit of that. You love them anyways, 531 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:22.840 appreciate it. We'll be right back. 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This is I on 576 00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:34.880 the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Subscribe 577 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:39.239 now to the podcast on the iHeartRadio while just surgery I on the Ball. 578 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:40.960 Hey, welcome back to one on the Ball. You know, Fox Sports 579 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.159 fourteen fifteen on Steve, He's Jay. We have left thirteen minutes. If 580 00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.159 you'd like to give us a quick call talk to us. So whatever you 581 00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:51.440 guys want to talk about. UM, but you have some news I think 582 00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:55.199 yes. Yes, we ad a bit of a milestone on Friday. If 583 00:39:55.239 --> 00:40:00.320 you're somebody follows our podcast because you know, and we know a lot of 584 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.199 people listen to us. You know when we're live and what now you can 585 00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:06.000 listen to us on either on the radio or on the iHeart Apple. We 586 00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:12.840 also post our podcast and on Friday we hit twelve hundred podcasts that are available 587 00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:16.800 on the iHeart website. UM, one thousand and two hundred, Steve, 588 00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:21.519 which is pretty cool. It's a it's a it's a nice number. Yeah, 589 00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:22.320 no, it is. It is. I mean that means you can 590 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.880 go way back and they're all available and listen to our shows. How do 591 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.800 they find it? Uh, you go to you go to the iHeart website 592 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:34.280 iHeart dot com search for I on the Ball and you can get to our 593 00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.039 podcast page and you you can go back as far as you want it. 594 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.639 We've had Steven Er a couple of times, Terry Francona a couple of times, 595 00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:45.800 Bill Walton, umb Mike Bibby, a lot of a lot of a 596 00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:47.079 lot of you know, a lot of you know, obviously a lot of 597 00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:51.199 your A athletes. If you you know, we talked about your high school, 598 00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:52.960 you can go back and find them, do you know, do a 599 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.639 search. Um, we put that up every night after after the show. 600 00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.800 Um. It takes about an hour or so to get it up on up 601 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.639 on the site. And then lately, over the last I don't know a 602 00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:07.960 few months, we've been posting it on our Facebook and Twitter pages, so 603 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.840 you can just easily find it there. But the best way to find it 604 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:15.079 and to go see the directory of all the podcast is to go on and 605 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:21.039 uh and uh onto the ihear website. Now look, wait, we you 606 00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:23.920 know, we really appreciate you guys listening to our podcast because that's a big 607 00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:28.639 deal. Um, we're there, you know, I mean, we're there 608 00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.440 every day. And you know it's funny because you go you go see the 609 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:35.960 numbers. There's almost as many people who listen to our podcasts on the weekends 610 00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.039 as during the week because you know, people are like, Okay, I 611 00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:40.880 missed this one or I missed that one, and they go back and listen 612 00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.599 to listen to a podcast from earlier in the week or or way back, 613 00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:47.480 you know. Um, and you know, like I said, sometimes, 614 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:51.960 you know, we will have high school athletes on our you know, on 615 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:53.519 our on our podcast. If you want to go back and oh, you 616 00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:58.159 know, Jimmy was on this radio show back in you know, two thousand 617 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:01.039 and twenty two, twenty two. Go look for that. You can hear 618 00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:04.519 them, you know that kind of stuff. That's what that stuff is good 619 00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.760 for. Right. No, it's been h I didn't think i'd lost five 620 00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:14.079 shows with you, five five podcasts. But hey, you know the world, 621 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.440 the world is doing. I grow on you, man. I married 622 00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.719 to my wife going on going on thirty three years. We're gonna have to 623 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.400 change your name from Jay the fund guy. You grow man. You people 624 00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:29.239 love me. Sometimes this is not Sometimes there's some people out there who go 625 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:30.119 like, what the hell are you doing? Yeah, because we're coming up 626 00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:36.320 against maybe three years here, three years bears in September September of three years 627 00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:37.920 and then but we were a year together. The other press about Yeah, 628 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:44.599 yeah, I yeah, um, if you're welcome. Yeah, it's been 629 00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:47.320 fun. But you know, if you if you if you ever miss a 630 00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:51.800 show, just go back and look for you you know, you ever looking 631 00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.239 for something to listen to on your drive to Phoenix or whatever. Um, 632 00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.199 you know, give us a listen. Go back and listen to one of 633 00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.480 our podcasts. And we try to make it entertaining to give us some permissions 634 00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:04.199 as long as we remember names were good. That guy, you know that 635 00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.599 guy that's way of Jason googling it from or he knows what we're talking about. 636 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:12.679 We're so badness. But twelve podcasts very cool and and we'll put something 637 00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.840 tonight. I think you need to put some tonight on the kind of success 638 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:20.599 that we're saying. Numbers wise from those podcasts and our listeners, right, 639 00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:22.840 our listener, our list the people, the number of people listening to our 640 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:28.440 podcasts is really grown, which tells us probably the number of people who are 641 00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:31.840 listening to us right now is really grown quite a bit, which which you 642 00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:35.719 You sent it to me earlier today, and I was very surprised because what 643 00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:37.920 I tell some of the people I talked to, some of the advertisers, 644 00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:42.880 UM, I was way under selling it, yeah, way underselling. Yeah. 645 00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.480 So those a lot of people out there listening, and those those advertisers 646 00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:49.159 go on the podcast, right right, so they can hear it here. 647 00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:53.400 Yeah, yeah, right. Our local ads run on the podcast because um 648 00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:58.960 I hearts you know, inserts some uh some national ads. During the second 649 00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:01.920 break each hour, we we added those out so you get all the if 650 00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:05.920 you're an advertiser, and if you want to be an advertiser, I certainly 651 00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.400 reach out to us. But our advertisers, we leave those ads on the 652 00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:12.840 podcast and so people hear those as well. Yeah, no, it We've 653 00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.960 been fun so far. Uh. Summers are a little hot and difficult, 654 00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:19.320 but we've gone through two or three of them. Our best best time was 655 00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.760 when we are on the best time every times the best time. But when 656 00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:24.880 we had COVID, we had everybody available because no one was doing anything. 657 00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:29.239 Yeah yeah, yeah. We started this in the in the middle of twenty 658 00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.480 twenty, and it was it was a crazy time. Um, everything had 659 00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:37.840 shut down, was it twenty twenty twenty, middle of May of twenty twenty, 660 00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:40.280 and uh so you know it's uh, you know, yeah, but 661 00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:44.440 I think I think though, once they started listening to us. It grows 662 00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:49.679 on them too, because we're just dudes talking about sports, local sportsmans most 663 00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.800 of the time, most of the time. Right. And then our guests. 664 00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:54.400 And I was with somebody yesterday said, you guys have some pretty good 665 00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:58.119 guests, isn't. Yeah, but it's sometimes it's hard to find it hard 666 00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:00.000 to finding them. You know. Well, look, we're trying to have 667 00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:05.559 conversations, and we've talked about this. We want to have conversations about what's 668 00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:07.639 going on right in front of you. You know, do we do we 669 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:12.119 go back to issues you know that are you know a week all or whatever, 670 00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:15.159 But mostly we're trying to talk about what's going on to do, right, 671 00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:17.119 So that's that's really what we do. That's the FCC right now. 672 00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:20.480 Yeah, that's the gist of our show. Hi, you're on the R 673 00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:22.199 and I on the ball. No, it's Richard. How you guys doing 674 00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.760 today, Richard, we're doing. Man, it's hot, isn't. It's 675 00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:31.559 hot out there? It's so bad. Hey, Lio, you know all 676 00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:37.119 this talk about this bitterness about Jay Johnson leaving you know, um, you 677 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.320 know, hey, look look it's all about rejection. You know, you've 678 00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.639 got to be able to handle rejection. That's true. And look, I 679 00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:49.239 mean look take these the Yokohoma Sooners as an example. I mean, you 680 00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:52.920 know, we lost our great coach, Lincoln Riley. He took he stole 681 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.840 our highs con trophy quarterback with UFC. And uh, but we're not bitter. 682 00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:00.840 I mean we're not bitter. I mean we this an arrest warps red, 683 00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:06.079 but we're not there. Yeah. Yeah, I heard he if he 684 00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.760 crossed the state lines and there are orders to not only arrest him, but 685 00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:14.679 probably heard him. Well, we'd like to run him up a little bit. 686 00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:17.840 Not too bad, jay. So so when when Switcher left? Uh? 687 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.599 And so when Switcher up to the Cowboys had that? How was that? 688 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.760 Well he had already been retired. Also let him see you at the 689 00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.400 door. Okay, okay, yeah, no, well he he retired after 690 00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:35.119 seventeen years. Who placed him was the guy that gives gibbs? And then 691 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:39.320 there was played them the next year, right, Okay remember nineteen Yeah that 692 00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:45.079 was when Jamal Holloway didn't play yet broken his leg the Lake and Oklahoma started 693 00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:51.360 a second or third stream defensive back named Chris Nelson. And so it was 694 00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:52.920 a great game. Now, I mean we had to run the ball every 695 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.880 down pretty much because Chris didn't pass it. All right. It was the 696 00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:02.079 remember the book, The Life and Crimes of the Oklomba Football. I'll tell 697 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:06.199 you what. There was a lot of NFL players on that football field that 698 00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:08.360 night. Yeah, there was a lot of great players on both sides, 699 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:15.760 football Lynn Parker, John Fah. There was a lot of players on that 700 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.880 team, both those teams. But anyway, hey, rejecting happens. Yeah, 701 00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:23.119 we're all going to be rejected. I mean, Steve knows women are 702 00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:29.039 gonna leave us. We have to get over it and just move on. 703 00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:31.480 Right, we've been talking. I gotta tell you, Richard, there's still 704 00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:35.480 a girl and a girl from high school that I'm still really upset at. 705 00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:37.760 And nothing. My life, my life's been great, and you know she 706 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:42.559 was. You know, it's never been. But just the way that thing 707 00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:47.079 went down, it still sticks in there a little bit. But he's not 708 00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:51.840 bitter, Richard, He's not bitter. No. Well, I'll tell you 709 00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:54.119 I sure can't go back to Oklahoma, that's for sure. There's a few 710 00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.559 women back there that, you know, like to get my scalp. I'm 711 00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:00.920 pretty sure were streaming so long and they forgot about. It doesn't even matter. 712 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:04.679 I don't know those restraining owners were probably still yeah, there might be. 713 00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:12.800 Thanks for being the listener, Richard. We appreciate it. Thank you. 714 00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:16.800 It's it's kind of funny. Uh so, yeah, okay, So 715 00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:20.760 that there's that. We have about four minutes. We got about another couple 716 00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:22.000 of calls in you if you want going back to that though, you know, 717 00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:25.679 I don't remember, and maybe I was, but I don't remember the 718 00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:28.679 way I remember it today. Let me put it this way. Maybe it's 719 00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:32.840 revisions history. I don't remember being that upset about Larry Smith going to USC 720 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:39.280 right if he had gone to more of a lateral move. But even back 721 00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:42.840 then, and I would have been let's say that was nineteen eighty six, 722 00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:45.800 so i'd have been twenty seven years old. Even back then, I just 723 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:49.960 didn't feel you had trade, but you had to. You had to. 724 00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:52.880 Maybe I wasn't I but today I don't think, you know, I don't 725 00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:54.320 feel that way. And I did feel that way about Jay Johnson's like, 726 00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:59.320 oh yeah, I guess you had to important enough to me as a fan. 727 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.800 You had to have been about it with with the thing is he jumped 728 00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:06.480 to the prettier girl in the conference. Yeah, that was that was the 729 00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:09.519 thing. And he wasn't I'm sure he wasn't treated well here when he came 730 00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:13.960 to play. Oh no, no he was not. He was not. 731 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:19.000 Hig you're on the iron I on the ball. Hey, how's it going 732 00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.360 today? What's up, Brian? You guys talking about coaches that lead? 733 00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:27.599 Yeah, you know, I don't. I don't. I could care. 734 00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:30.199 I don't care about a coach leading. If they want to lead to better 735 00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:36.000 themselves, why not because the first chance to uh, when they don't do 736 00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:40.519 well, everybody's complaining and they're fired, So why not strike by the ironside? 737 00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.400 Yeah? I agree again. You know, an L shoe was gonna 738 00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:52.159 double their salary or more than that and their facilities. And now with with 739 00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.239 n I L, I'm here that doing very very well. But you know, 740 00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:59.119 I mean, the only thing I did not walk about what J Johnson 741 00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.119 did, it's not come back and talk to the players. Guy. You 742 00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:07.000 know, I think that something that coach should always do. Yeah you know, 743 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:12.199 yeah, and those players knew this was going on while they're at the 744 00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:17.679 college. Serious, Well you're doing think made a difference now because you're not 745 00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:22.079 playing for the coach, you're playing for yourself and you're playing for the school. 746 00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.119 You're you're talking way too much sense, Brian, You're you're making way 747 00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:27.760 too much sense, and all of that. It's killing you. Probably what 748 00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:32.199 the two beers I already had today, have a third a third, you'll 749 00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:37.079 even make more sense. I'm gonna happen, I guess you. Something's wrong 750 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:38.360 with me. I probably won't be able to call back for a month now. 751 00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:45.400 Okay, you're growing up, thank you, thank you much. But 752 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:50.960 that bitterness, and I'm saying this not directed to UJ or to just to 753 00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:53.760 those it's more a reflection of them than it is to anything else. Right, 754 00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:59.880 It's like, yes, like you're you've got your own sadness yours. 755 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:05.519 That's something and this just triggers it. Right, Yeah, but got you 756 00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:07.480 know, But it was funny that there's so many, so many people who 757 00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.440 lit up or Jetfish. Yeah, I mean there's some people who don't feel 758 00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:15.079 the same about jet Fish because of that, which is crazy. Hey, 759 00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:19.159 jet Fish has bigger issues than this. Yeah, and it's a quarterback and 760 00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:22.599 trying to win some games. Yeah, no, it's crazy, but it 761 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.679 is what it is, and that's what the But that again. You know, 762 00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:30.039 that's what we do. And social media has unleashed all of that and 763 00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:32.920 now you know, you deal with all that stuff as it comes along. 764 00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.519 You know. Look, I mean, I'm gonna be interested to see, 765 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.719 let's say things don't go well this football season. You know, what's the 766 00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:45.079 fan reaction going to be? You know it? I mean, I think 767 00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:47.840 let's let's say let's say they went what do you mean, let's say they 768 00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:51.760 went Okay, they won't won an eleven his first year. Let's say they'd 769 00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:57.719 gone three and nine last all right, and now they go five and seven. 770 00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:00.679 People would be happy they go five and seven this year. People are 771 00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:04.400 not going to be happened. I think Jay and I don't know the skids. 772 00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:06.280 We don't have it. What we guess we do, but it can't 773 00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.239 see it. Um just how they go five and seven, you know, 774 00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:13.880 the way they go five and seven, because there could be some pretty good 775 00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:15.960 teams in LUSA, the serves in a football you don't. I think there's 776 00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:19.599 a lot of people dug in that they that back because they went five and 777 00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:22.039 seven last year, they better be in a bowl game this year. You 778 00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:23.480 know, I think there's a lot of people like that. All right, 779 00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:27.159 let's take our breakway and come back breaking news at the top of the hour 780 00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.280 with Jason. We'll be right back. Believe they just don't believe that. 781 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.880 Just don't believe that. Justin