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Using free speech to free minds.
You're listening to the David Night Show.

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As the clock strikes thirteen. It's
Friday, the twenty ninth of December.

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You're of our Lord two thousand and
twenty three. Well, I'm Tony Arderburn.

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I'm filling in for the great David
Knight. I am joined by the

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legendary Guard Goldsmith. Thanks for having
me. We've got a great show lined

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up for you. We've got Guard
here in the first hour, Don Jeffries

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in the second, and a very
special third hour, Charlie Robinson, Mister

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Anderson, Billy Ray Valentine and talk
about a new phenomenon of jen Zers looking

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up to Issama bin Laden. They
like Tim Osmond. Can you believe it?

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Guard? It's one heck of us? Cell Well, what an absolute

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honor. The final David Knight Show
for the year. We're closing in strong,

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giving David time off, which he
I don't know how he does it.

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If you've ever filled it, Guard, you're a veteran now of hosting

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this show. And does that just
give you all the more respect for what

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David does. I've started filling in
in twenty nineteen. It does not get

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easier, my friend. I mean, I know, it's amazing both vets

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now, yeah, yeah, Tony, And it's great to see you.

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Happy New Year early, and thanks
for being such a stalwart anchor during twenty

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twenty three in my life and also
on your own programs. And when you

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fill in for David and join David
on Thursdays at usually at ten thirty in

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the morning Eastern time. And that's
not to plug, but boy, praising

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David Knight is not sufficient the work
that he does. As you know,

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the burden that you feel for the
audience is I think only paralleled or matched

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by the burden that you feel because
you're so honored to fill in for David,

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who does such astounding work that you
want to step You've got to step

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it up, You've got to do
an amazing job. Well, I think

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having you on helps to expand the
intelligence quotion of the show. For sure.

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I'm glad you're here in the first
hour. And again we've got a

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great show lined up for you.
Final show of the year, for the

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David Knight Show. We're gonna close
strong with a round table panel. Hey,

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do you want to do the third
hour? You welcome to come back

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or just stay on the line.
I don't whatever you'd like, Gardening.

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Those people are all great heroes of
mine. I'd love to stop by,

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say hello, wish him happy New
Year, and of course let them know

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that the IRS agents will be stopping
by this year eighty seven thousand. Yeah,

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you know they're gonna come before the
FBI because of course these guys might

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be concerned parents hanging around outside of
their school board meeting and that's evil.

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Or they could be Catholics, so
that's evil too. Well, they're from

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the government and they're here to help. Oh goodness, Well, I've got

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Gardener. We're talking off air,
and by the way, we're streaming live

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on freeworld dot fm. That's the
the the group project between myself and Billy

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Ray Valentine and Don Jeffries and others. Garb will be joining us there.

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We got a lot of great hosts. It's a it's another lifeboat we made

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for free speech. So if you're
you're hearing about this, David will be

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streaming live. They're very soon and
working out some of the technical issues.

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But Freeworld dot fm is picking up
the show, so I wanted to shout

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that out as well, and I
will be paying attention to the rockfinchat to

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hear on David's channel. For sure, I'll periodically kind of go back and

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forth. If you've got comments and
questions or anything you want to throw into

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the Rockfinn Chat, You're certainly welcome
to do that. Guard and I were

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talking off air, and you know, this is another aspect of why I

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respect David so much. You have
to choose in in this era, or

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as David will say, error in
this era, you have to you look

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around and say, Okay, what's
what are the headlines that me the most?

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What what can I glean Because I
got you know, only got three

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hours. It seems like it seems
like a long time. But when you're

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talking about this massive amount of news
coverage and information, what's what? What

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are some of the themes? And
that's kind of what I'd do with my

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show. And Guard and I were
talking off air, and I said,

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now, did you see the story
about how Russia and Iran uh formerly and

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we've they've been doing this for a
while, but backing away they've dumped the

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dollar and Guard says yes, and
he goes and then I saw where Lindsey

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Graham called for the bombing of Iran, and I said, aha, I

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did the same thing. I put
it together. The stories are right next

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to each other. I mean,
it's so predictable. Now, let's let's

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pull up this headline. I want
to talk a little bit about this.

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And yeah, and and hats off
to the anti war people. They do

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a great job at at anti war
dot com. Boy, absolutely, I

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don't. I need to to get
better at sending them some donations. I've

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used anti war dot com for years
and years after I started reading Pap Buchanan.

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Les can pull this up. Here's
here's the story here to standby.

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You know, Russia Iran finally dumped
the US dollar for good. And this

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is off MSN dot com. In
a bold move that shakes the foundations of

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international trade, Russia and Iran have
officially turned their backs on the US dollar.

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This decision, a strategic pivot towards
utilizing local currencies in their bilateral trade,

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marks a significant shift in the global
economic landscape. The move not only

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challenges the dollar's dominance, but signals
a deeper integration within the Bricks Alliance as

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Iran prepares to join its ranks.
In twenty twenty four, Gee nobody could

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have seen that coming. Oh no, I mean, are you know,

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forty different sanctions on thirty six different
countries weaponizing the dollar. You know,

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we we abandoned the Breton Woods system. Oh we we didn't break our word,

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did we guard you know, having
Richard Nixon take us off the gold

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standard in nineteen seventy one, that
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you know, from nineteen forty four
onwards. No, right, of

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course, they were deceptively sort of
breaking their word from the moment that fed

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began, because they were, you
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banking, and they weren't telling people
that they only had a fraction of what

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they could have promised to people if
they wanted to redeem their dollars for the

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percentage of gold that they promised,
right up to the point where Nixon said,

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Okay, yeah, a lot of
foreigners have been buying our gold,

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so don't tell anybody, but we've
already lost a lot of the United States

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held gold at Fort Knox. So
yeah, it looks like we're pretty much

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going to have to go off this
fictitious dollar connection to announce of gold,

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because that was one of the reasons
why they said, well, you know,

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once we allow people to own gold
again, guess what, people are

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not going to want to hold on
to that dollar that they keep pumping out.

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They can't keep pumping out the goal
the way they pump out the dollars,

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so it gets which one is going
to lose its value, and that's

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what they do. And of course
they have incentive to do that because they

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can only tax so high to keep
funding their welfare pig sty and then they

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can so they have to borrow.
And the only way they can facilitate their

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borrowing is of course by getting the
Federal Reserve to buy their bonds and create

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more money by doing so, which
is destructive to the productive capacity of every

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human being out there. Well yeah, and there's so many factors to what

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the term is called d dollarization,
and that's one. It's a theme that

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I talk about all the time on
my programs anytimes I'm a guest anywhere,

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because it's the historical implications of what's
going on not being picked up by the

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mainstream media. It's going to be
like something we've never actually ever experienced in

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history, because we have never lost
the world's reserve currency status as the American

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people, you know, in nineteen
forty four, as you know, Guarded,

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they set up the Breton Woods system. You've mentioned you've been to the

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Breton Woods, the hotel there where
they met. Yeah, my brother had

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his wedding there. Yeah, that's
right. And they set up the IMF.

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They set gold at thirty five dollars
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world's reserve currency and that lasted until
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And one of the you know,
the themes going on through the sixties was

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the debasing of our coinage. You
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last time that we had silver in
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and dollars from the US meant other
countries took notice. As a matter of

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fact, I was talking yesterday to
a friend of mine, mister Anderson,

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and I said, you know that
the Gaul, the president of France,

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sent his warships over in the late
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other countries they wanted those dollars redeemable
in gold. And this is interesting because

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I was talking to guard off Air. I bought yesterday from a customer.

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I don't usually buy notes, but
this one and there's another one i'll talk

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about later, a five dollar bill. This is a twenty dollars bill from

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nineteen fifty. Okay, I know
you can't really see it on the camera's

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not I can't reach that far,
but it's a it's a nineteen fifty twenty

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dollars bill. And uh, let's
see if I need I need a magnifying

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glass. Really, but there's some
fine print on this bill that you won't

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see on a modern Federal Reserve note. Twenty dollars bill, And if you'll

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bear with me, I'll see if
I can read it. And of course

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it says this note is legal tender, you know, and is can be

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clear clearing all debts public and private, and is redeemable. This is the

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key is redeemable in lawful money,
otherwise known as gold. Specie currency the

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gold right, right right, And
of course the difference between specie and fiat.

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If people aren't familiar, Specie is
hard currency, gold, silver,

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some other recognizable long term commodity that
people find of common value, and fiat

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currency is that which is imposed on
us by government. Fiat and you're right.

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You know, the interesting thing,
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people were aware of it. When
Roosevelt called for people to turn in their

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gold, my mom told me my
grandfather, who had only a sixth grade

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education, ended up owning a company
with you know, three plants. He

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actually owned the very tip of Montauk
Point on Long Island, and they had

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to sell it. It's worth like, you know, ten million dollars now

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or something like that, but they
had to sell it. So he had

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been a very successful guy. He
didn't turn his gold in. He's like,

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no way am I turning my gold
into that criminal. And over the

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years, of course, the imbalance
grows and grows between they're issuing in the

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paper currency and what people can actually
redeem. Because if they wanted to redeem

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that, say in nineteen fifty five, they would they might it wouldn't they

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would have been issuing more of those
slips. So if people, if all

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the people who had those slips wanted
to redeem them in nineteen fifty there'd be

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a higher chance that the US Mint, the US Government, the Federal Reserve,

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could the Federal Reserve could exchange it
for what they promised they could exchange

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it for As the years go by, more people have those things, but

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they don't actually represent the same percentage. Now it's a smaller percent. More

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people have them, they go to
turn them in. Sorry, we sold

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out. It's gone. And then
Nixon, as you say, breaks in

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at the what was it the close
of Bonanza or during Bonanza in the seventies.

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It breaks in August fifteenth, nineteen
seventy one, interrupts an episode of

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Bonanza and takes us off the closes
the gold window used the word temporary fifty

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plus years ago. Well, the
interesting thing about this guard is this this

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is a redeemable and lawful money.
So what it's saying is this isn't money,

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right, This is a certificate.
Right. This is a certificate so

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you can obtain lawful money and how. And the cruel joke about this is

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in nineteen fifty you couldn't get as
a private citizen, you couldn't get this

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redeemable in goal. This was for
the other countries that use the dollar.

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That's what this was great point.
And you know they should point out that

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that sort of draws that distinction between
statute and constitution and statute and natural law

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those you know, the items that
we agree to ourselves personally as human beings,

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as something that we recognize as something
with value, and we make a

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contract to make an agreement that's based
on natural law. That's the respect under

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God an agreement. We don't lie, we don't cheat, we don't steal,

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statute of course, certain by the
state. Between those on the constitutional

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level. People often will use the
term lawful when they are sliding something in

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nowadays to say, well, is
it lawful? They're implying constitutional, but

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they don't really mean it. But
that actually does mean constitutional, because the

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constitution only permits the federal government,
not something that's granted a monopoly by the

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government called the Federal Reserve, and
only grants the federal government the ability to

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coin money and affix the value thereof, and it's not even supposed to be

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the exclusive money. That's one of
the things Ron Paul has brought up.

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Anybody who's interested in free banking and
understanding how to stop the inflationary process is

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get it completely away from any political
hands, because they're the ones who are

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incentivized to use the statues to say
this is all you can deal with and

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then just keep creating it to pay
off all these people that they gave promises

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to so they can get votes.
If we had a private banking system and

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the banks were holding their own stores
of gold or silver and they wanted to

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issue redemption slips that they might call
whatever, you know, bank A dollar

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or bank B dollar, whatever,
then we could compare and say, excuse

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me, can I check your stocks? Are you operating on fractional reserve?

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Do you have enough that if you
have issued these papers? My friends,

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if I give them this, they
will know that they can go in and

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get that solid, real money,
that so called lawful money, whether or

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not it's under the constitution you want
to think of it as the constitution or

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is just personal person? Am I
ripping them off if I give them this?

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Or will they get the money?
And then if the banks say sorry,

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we don't want to show you,
well, then we wouldn't go to

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the banks, and my friends wouldn't
take that money. Well, right,

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And it's a trust issue, And
that's what's the crux of the dollarization is

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not only the sanctions. And we
were talking about Iran in Russia and this

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has been going on a long time
in Russia. In the last eighteen months

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has called US dollar candy wrappers.
That's from their finance minister. They stopped

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using dollars. They've they've done all
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know, country to country, using
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you know, trading crewd for for
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paid for, and rubles. I
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swift system and these other bricks are
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were talking about the massive decline in
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called money velocity. Now I want
to you know, it'd be great if

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we could run a simulation to see
what would Lindsey Graham be doing if fiant

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currency didn't exist, If if we
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have fake people like Lindsey Graham in
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would he be a factor without unlimited
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people like Lindsay Graham would not be
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be in the United States Senate,
no way. He'd probably be trying out

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for an off Broadway production of Gomer
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append Zance that you took it.
There is he gonna be in the South

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Pacific. He's gonna do Lady Lindsay. And you know what's pretty funny,

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Tony is I don't have to go
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my screen I have the exact same
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our minds are connected. It's just
amazing how this system, especially the United

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States United States inflationary systems starting with
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has facilitated all so much of the
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if you look at the fallouts to
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complex that lockeyed Martins, the Boeings
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so big, and then the secondary
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loop. Going back to politicians I've
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from New Hampshire, Kelly Ayat,
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sudden she gets put on the board
of Boeing. At the same time she's

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on the board of Boeing, she's
on the board of Fox News. Where

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is she appearing on Fox News talking
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very corrupt. But even the local
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you were in the military, you
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well. The vast expansion of the
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military corporate fascist ties go all the
way to the base closures, and how

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angry so many people were when they
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Not my backyard, this is our
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when you have this sort of inflated
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starting, you know, just like
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the Wizard says liquidated arra very resourceful
of you. Well, there are two

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signals there. First, you've got
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and there's been malinvestment in this case, in the war machine. And the

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second one is you've got to allow
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those resources based on the choices of
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Well, since the United States population
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role for the United States to defend
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to engage in defense, and they
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in offense and payoffs all over the
world, opening bases all over the planet,

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surrounding Iran with bases. Evidently,
that's that's the sort of ring that

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Linds Lindsey Graham really likes, a
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many people get inculcated in this idea
of well, if you stand against that,

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you're against the troops. Well,
maybe our perception of the United States

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and the way that the Monroe doctrine
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one hundred and fifty two hundred years, maybe that ought to be readjusted.

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we're going to see tremendous push As
you see right there on the screen you

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brought it up. People like Lindsay
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come up with any excuse or rationale
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more war. And they're they're targeting. They're going to target Syria and they're

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going to target Iran big time.
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at the Pentagon Post Post nine to
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senator Lends Graham calls for the US
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map. This reminds me a lot
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RAA two thousand and seven. Absolutely. John McCain, by the way,

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the man of whom I have photographs
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Nazi of Ukraine as they were arranging
the new government with Victoria Neulan and Jeffrey

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Pyatt on the phone in their famous
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fourteen while they were getting Hunter Biden
put in eparisma after the Midan kup in

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late twenty thirteen, in which the
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involved to make it look like the
government of Ukraine shot on its own people,

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which they did not. It was
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there because he was too close to
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Why partially because Russia dropped its long
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and nine as the American Recovery Act
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Obama and something that is also tied
to, as you mentioned France at that

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time. You know, you recently
reunited Germany asked for their goldback and the

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Federal Reserve said, oh, we
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them years to finally admit, like, well, yeah, maybe we'll give

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it to you. In dribs and
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what has been going on with the
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freedom or that they love Jewish people
right because their type of mindset, Lindsey

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Graham will not tell you that he
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a Nazi from the Slova Da Party. People can look it up. His

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name is Tiannibac with a ty Tianni
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Joe Biden as well and Amy Klobashar. They all met together, they were

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all there, They were photographs on
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these justifications, guessing in their own
their own minds or what's left of their

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soul. You know, they compromised
so many times they don't even exist anymore,

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you know. But remember, if
you criticize them, you are by

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proxy criticizing Israel, the state of
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These people who were meeting with Neo
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right. Yeah, they used the
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And you mentioned earlier about well,
you're not supporting the troops. Well,

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I was a troop. I would
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we had a an America to first
foreign policy. You mentioned them in Roe

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doctrine. That to me is my
foreign policy. Don't colonize the hemisphere,

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stay out of our affairs, you
know, peace, peace, commerce,

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and honest friendship. I'm more with
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he knew what he was talking about. Or John Quincy Adams saying that America

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was not designed to go abroad in
search of monsters to destroy. I'm with

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John Quincy Adams. I'm not with
Lindsey Graham. I'm not I'm not with

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these psychopaths. This this is,
this is, this leads to cataclysm.

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You talk about, you know a
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lot of history, and I'm fascinated
by it's in some of the history you

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read, like World War One,
you have these statesmen that were very smart,

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spoke several languages, were skilled,
and diplomacy and real politique, all

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that stuff. They couldn't stop World
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you read about the Kaiser, couldn't
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Once it was enacted, they started
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He tried to turn it off.
He couldn't even turn off his own war

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machine. And these were smart people. You fast forward, now we've got

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nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, biological
AI, all of this, all this,

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these terrible things. And you have
Lindsey Graham and Joe Biden, or

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you have a Speaker of the House, you have my job. You have

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these these brain dead and soulless really
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of any humanity in charge of things, and they're just blundering their way into

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cataclysm. It looks like, and
this is a one of these headlines,

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Guard that really you know, and
again we follow the line of you know,

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Russia, Iran dumping the dollar officially
this is the headline. The next

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headline is Senator Lindsay Graham h calls
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These things are related, absolutely,
and you know that the Again, kudos

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to the people at Anti War if
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up here in the first two paragraph
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they say. Senator Lindsey Graham,
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the United States. I also think
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portions that are you know, considered
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But we'll just continue. I don't
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political system. It's all forced on
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about the next guy? But that's
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has called for the US to bomb
Iran in response to hoodie attacks in the

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Red Sea. That not being Hooty
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music might be considered pretty offensive,
nonetheless saying Iranian bases and oil fields should

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be blown off the map. Oh
yeah, that's going to be really good

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for the US economy. Just unbelievable, if even if you want to look

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at it as as that sort of
a callous way to approach it. Peace,

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peace and trade. How about that. I haven't seen Iran engaging in

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the behavior that the United States has
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after they toppled the man who was
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CIA. The hawkish, Yeah,
the hawkish senator claimed that without Iran there

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would be no Houties. But writes
Dave DeCamp and hats off to you,

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Dave. My bald head shows it. But the Houties, formerly known as

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ansar Allah, are a home grown
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Muslims ruled the area of North Yemen
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thousand years until nineteen sixty two.
I wonder if Lindsay's gonna mention anything about

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that. The arrogance of these people, they have no historical sense. You

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watch that documentary The Fog of War. McNamara goes over to Vietnam, starts

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talking to his counterpart that was there
throughout the Vietnam War, and they said,

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why did you continue to intervene?
Didn't you know this was a civil

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war. Didn't you know that we
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in the Chinese three thousand years.
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thing with Iraq. I mean,
they the You have to see parts of

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it completely on purpose, you know, if you believe in the conspiracy theory

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of history, which I do because
that's where all the scholarship is. But

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if you look at a rack,
they really thought, because I was part

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of the tail end the evasion of
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that country with less than fifty thousand
troops. Are you serious? That's what

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Donald Rumsfeld thought. And that's why
they just they didn't even send in the

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armor. They didn't send in that, they didn't send in all the things

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that you would need, because they
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liberators. Were they were they using
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in its supply from Afghanistan. Hey, I had I had to protect don't

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you know those those poppy fields?
I had to protect those in Afghanistan?

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Ar don't you know guard I'll never
forget twenty two years old, bringing my

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team up over a hill. Were
called out to these coordinates. They said,

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you need to go over there.
There's a we need to get some

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pictures of this area and get it
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okay, So I go. When
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massive field of poppies and there's just
armed people. I don't know who they

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were with. This is like after
the Talifan fell and there was just massive,

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massive fields of poppy in the middle
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like just Barren mad Max wasteland.
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there's just you know, fields forever
as far as you can see, fields

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of green. Well they're not green, but yeah, that little little orange

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colored flowers. Yeah yeah. And
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the US invasion because the and and
there was just a reporting I mentioned on

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the Liberty Conspiracy Show. There was
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I showed that that infamous interview a
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I was hosting David Knight Show.
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the the the video of of her
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Morris actually on Fox then twenty years
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with a marine named Christmas, Brian
Christmas, and they were handling the security

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for the fields, and the narrative
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we don't do this, the Taliban
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we have to allow these locals to
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Taliban is in, they've actually been
destroying the fields, and the percentage,

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the proportion of the world's poppies and
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dropped such that Afghanistan is no longer
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that they give people in the United
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with modern technology, you know,
modern communication technology, going back to really

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about you, Tony, I wanted
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you think about the psychology of people
who might not necessarily be first inclined to

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lie, but because they get on
that political treadmill and they're constantly in that

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battle zone and they constantly have to
present these narrative stories, they might fall

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into that trap. They might amplify
something more than they need to to make

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it sound more alarming. There's always
that tendency to try to, well,

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I'll gain attention by being pithy or
telling somebody that something is a big emergency

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or something like that. And I
don't know how one can get around that,

408
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but there are people who do seem
to get around it. Thomas Massey

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does a terrific job. He's very
honest. I don't know whether you do.

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You think it's just part of human
psychology, maybe a mixture of some

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of these people who were just corrupt
and then the others sort of following in

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their footsteps and seeing the patterns and
how they can get their bread buttered.

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To me, it's and perhaps with
this dedollarization happening, maybe we'll see more

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desperation. But after a while,
maybe people will start to realize that the

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United States activities around the world have
been bankrupting us. Well, I think

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it's a series of small compromises.
These type of personalities make over their lifetimes

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until they don't know who they are
anymore. And like kind of looking at

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the you know, the story about
Lindsay Graham and the people that have supported

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war. You know, you start
making justifications for it. I remember a

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story about Lyndon Johnson when he was
running for Senate in nineteen forty eight,

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and his whole political career was on
the line, so he couldn't He had

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to leave Congress to run for the
Senate, so he had no lifeline back

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and that was his I mean,
it was his last stand. He was

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running against a guy named Coke Stevens
that should have won hands down, and

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he was the former governor of Texas, a stalwart constitutionalist, would have been

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a great senator. Well, LBJ
had the Brown and Root money. You

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00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:10.960
know, he had a lot of
He had a lot of a lot of

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outside money, and they started just
pouring it in. And one of the

429
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things that he ended up having to
read what he had to read, a

430
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:23.440
very right wing ad on air that
was anti union. It was very it

431
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was very much anesthetical to what his
platform was. But he had he had

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to get this endorsement, and he
just talked himself into it. He said,

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if I don't read this and I
don't do it enthusiastically, then I

434
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.119
won't be senator and I can't help
the people that I say I'm going to

435
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:42.400
help anyway. So he justified it
that way, and I think they just

436
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.720
make these series now. He's probably
he was probably as a as evil as

437
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:50.640
he was. He was probably a
little bit more cognizant than I even think

438
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these people are, which I mean, I think I don't know if they've

439
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:58.119
even given that any sort of of
thought at all. Guard So I don't

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know, we might be we might
be giving him too much credit if they're

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even self aware. Well, I
was just wondering if maybe they could,

442
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you know, package their their their
phraseology and their narratives and their fables into

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00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:16.159
small bite side pieces that would be
easy enough to digest from, say TikTok.

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00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:20.760
But then I realized that the more
I watched TikTok, the more anti

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Semitic and Nazi like I become because
Nicki Haley told me that, and I

446
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:29.840
love it, she says, she's
her statements. You probably saw, Tony

447
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:31.559
and before the show everybody, Tony
and I were talking a little bit about

448
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:36.960
how Nicki Haley was in New Hampshire, actually not too far from where there

449
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:44.000
was a Union Civil War prisoner of
war camp where guys were literally eating worms

450
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:49.519
to survive. Okay, and she
has to she said, not quite the

451
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.280
right thing about the Civil War.
It didn't fit the narrative of it was

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about slavery. Don't talk about anything
else. It was about slavery, which

453
00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:00.360
is completely off base for anybody knows
anything about the Civil War. That's an

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absurd Watching TikTok again, you got
it, you see. So there you

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go, and anti Semitism can now
be opened up to all sorts of things

456
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:13.559
now, perhapsolutely even have a rainbow
aspect of you can't be anti Semitic aus

457
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:17.800
that means you're anti LGBTQ. I
I don't know, but uh so.

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00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:25.320
So she comes back and she apologizes
and in her effusive, drippy crocodile tear

459
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:30.559
apology, Tony, you know,
she comes out and she says, well,

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I meant, I meant it was
about freedom. But of course,

461
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I mean, really, you got
to understand part of that is it's slavery.

462
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It was about slavery, and I
just thought. She goes on and

463
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.840
says, I want to stress that, you know, I am and I'm

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paraphrasing. Now, this is a
nation that we have to stress freedom of

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individual liberty. You know, all
the all the pat lines that they hand

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us while they're picking our pockets and
reducing our liberties and breaking the Bill of

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00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.760
Rights. It's all about individual liberty
and self rule like, oh, then

468
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.400
I can rule myself. Well not
really, you know, it's about this

469
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.519
experiment in self governance. So you're
gonna leave me alone. No, no,

470
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:13.480
no, I'm gonna govern you.
I thought you just said self governance.

471
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.000
No no, no, forget about
that stuff. So then she says,

472
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:20.840
she says, freedom of speech.
This is a woman who just two

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weeks ago was saying she wants to
ban TikTok oh, and she also wants

474
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you to register, yes, any
sort of use on the internet. So

475
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:30.719
right, you have to. You
have to show your face. You can't

476
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:37.239
even go back to the founding fathers
who wrote under pseudonyms. Yeah, even

477
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:43.320
during that time, right to the
papers and other arguments to the foundation of

478
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.239
the country, it was anonymous in
so many ways. What about silence?

479
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:50.559
Do good? What about Benjamin Franklin? Can he not do that anymore?

480
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:54.000
Do we have? We have to
be identified by Nikki Haley? And you

481
00:36:54.079 --> 00:37:00.599
know, it's interesting when revisionist history
people can't get an enough revision so they

482
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:06.239
have so that the revisionist meets a
super revisionist, and then they don't know

483
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:08.599
what to agree on, and they're
talking to a public who has no idea

484
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:13.079
about any of these things. I
mean, most if you've ever done seen

485
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.320
the man on the street, which
I'm sure you have, guard to just

486
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.760
watch people, they don't really know. Most people don't know the history of

487
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:25.079
the Civil War, about the issues
with trade, or or the economic powers

488
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:29.880
of the North and industrialization or Fourth
Turnings. I mean, they have no

489
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.599
idea about any of these things.
They just they got to throw out that

490
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:36.960
platitude. It's all about, you
know it was you should throw that Lincoln

491
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:43.039
quote in there about what he said
about the saving the slavery in the Union,

492
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:46.639
save the Union without freeing a slave. He would do it he didn't

493
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:50.559
care. He did not care.
He did. If I could free all

494
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the slaves and save the Union,
I would. If I could free half

495
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.199
the slaves and save the Union,
I would. If I could free none

496
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:59.679
of them and save the Union,
I would. That's what Lincoln said.

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And by the way, you know
we're gonna have Don jeffries On in this

498
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:07.000
in the second hour, and his
book Hidden History starts out with Secretary of

499
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:13.719
State Seward having a bell on his
desk under Lincoln. For those for those

500
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:15.559
who know what I'm talking about,
the Secretary of State for Lincoln was Seward,

501
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:19.239
and he had a bell on his
desk that he would ring to have

502
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:25.119
someone arrested. During the Civil War, including the attempted to rest of Supreme

503
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:30.960
Court justices. The attempted to rest
up was that the legislative body of Maryland

504
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or Delaware. I was talking about
this last night, just because they were

505
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:39.320
going to declare neutrality, you know, eviscerating habeas corpus, which is even

506
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:45.840
even though I wish it went further, and that Congress couldn't lift the writ

507
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:51.119
of habeas corpus under the Constitution,
Congress can lift it. But Lincoln just

508
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.639
decided, well, I can do
it too. It's just astounding, just

509
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:59.400
unbelievable. And George W. Bush
wanted to do the same thing, and

510
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:02.039
the congres at that time, with
people like Lindsay Graham involved in the Senate

511
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:08.519
and John mccannon the Senate, they
wanted to grant the president sole arbitrary executive

512
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power to lift the writ of habeas
corpus so that he can definitely detain people,

513
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:17.440
which they had been doing for years. And part of the problem that

514
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:22.480
they had encountered was that some of
the detainees in Guantanamo had some lawyers who

515
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:27.360
said, are you ever going to
charge these guys, because according to the

516
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.199
Constitution, you can't do this.
You either have to lift the writ of

517
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:35.119
habeas corpus for everybody, or you
got to get these guys an opportunity to

518
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.480
hear the evidence against them and be
charged with the crime. You can't just

519
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:43.559
kidnap people and hold them. Of
course, indirectly, they're you know,

520
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:46.760
they threatening kidnap of all of us
if we don't keep paying these fatuous criminals.

521
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:51.599
So you know, I don't know
how much different that is than a

522
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.119
mafia, But maybe it's just as
I mentioned on my show, maybe they

523
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:59.400
just use more decorous language. Oh
the momb Er amateurs. Yeah, I

524
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:02.400
mean I haven't understood. They got
to use Edward Burnet's as propaganda techniques.

525
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:07.800
That's the key. This is,
you know, the fight that I thought

526
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:13.679
I really saw in two thousand and
two, in two thousand and three was

527
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.679
the Patriot Act itself. And this
is me at twenty two years old,

528
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:21.840
and I remember being I was about
to id just gotten back from Afghanistan and

529
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:23.440
was deployed to Iraq, and I
remember just going, what are they doing?

530
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:29.760
We didn't need this to defeat Tojo's
Japan or the Third Reich. What

531
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:31.280
are they doing? What does that
even mean? Like? Why do I

532
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:36.800
need to give up so much of
my of my freedom and my liberty so

533
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:39.519
that the state can find people's quote
unquote in caves? And I thought,

534
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:44.000
this isn't what this is about.
And I knew that. I just instinctively

535
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:45.880
knew that, you know, at
a young age, and I just watched

536
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:52.719
this country headlong dive into authoritarianism and
we saw that just spill over into COVID

537
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:57.000
nineteen eighty four. This is what
that was. I mean, they just

538
00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.760
were able to put this flip,
that switch it's it's it's terrifying. You

539
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.960
know, we still have some remnants
of of the Constitution, some remnants of

540
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:08.320
the Bill of Rights, those are
hanging around. It's more like a shadow

541
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:14.320
of a shadow that we still have
that, but we are again this is

542
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.119
that they use the crises. They
use it never let a good opportunity to

543
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:21.639
go to waste. And then you
start thinking, well, you had this

544
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:23.800
all written up, and we're going
to talk about this in the third hour

545
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:28.400
a little bit. There's a there's
an article up I saw a couple of

546
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:32.000
days ago about how gen zers are
are. They have a lot of admiration

547
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:37.239
for Osama bin Laden because he wrote
they read his letter and they're just kind

548
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:43.920
of now stumbling upon US foreign policy
blowback. We're going to talk a little

549
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.039
bit. I've got a great panel
in the third hour to go over just

550
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:52.960
the history of how we got to
nine to eleven. And then you know

551
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.880
what, what what is asam bin
Laden's role? What is it now that

552
00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:00.320
they're rolling out for kids, is
you know you talk about and this is

553
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:07.360
ticked. This is a TikTok phenomenon
where they're reading uh Soomonn's letter. There's

554
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:12.400
there's so much there. They use
these boogeymen they use, they use these

555
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:15.639
straw men that they that are that
work for them. By the way,

556
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.480
you know, you have that famous
picture of Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam

557
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.079
Us saying have you ever seen that
video? Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah.

558
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:23.920
And you know, you know,
Tony, you bring up a couple

559
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:29.119
of things. You know, watching
people like Aaron Mante and Max Blum,

560
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:34.239
Blumenthal and others. Jimmy Door has
been doing a really good job. Uh.

561
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You know, one of the points
that sort of ties into this if

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you're talking about the number of gen
Zers who say wow, you know,

563
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:45.320
I was unaware of what Bin Lauden
had said that ties into this canard that

564
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they give us of this self governance
thing, the idea that the government that

565
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.719
rules over us and forces us to
pay for it is somehow us. And

566
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:59.039
as I've mentioned on my show a
number of times, one of the most

567
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:06.079
striking statements from anybody that confirmed so
many of the things that I and pro

568
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:08.920
peace people have been mentioning. Ron
Paul would probably discuss this as well to

569
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:15.679
using the Intern blowback was the Times
Square bomber, when they asked him how

570
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.800
he pled he said guilty, guilty, one hundred times guilty. And if

571
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:23.360
the United States government continues to do
is what it is doing in the Middle

572
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:29.119
East, more American civilians will die, which sort of ties into the blowback

573
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idea, and then that can be
translated into what these politicians, people like

574
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.400
Stepanek who called up the heads of
M I. T and you, Penn

575
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:44.360
and Harvard, and they know they
try to inflate what could be a minor

576
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.159
problem. A problem on campuses may
be growing, maybe inflamed intentionally, we

577
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:52.519
don't know. But I'm not hearing
a lot of young people calling for the

578
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:57.039
extermination of Jews. I'm hearing for
I'm hearing calls for a cease fire,

579
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:01.480
as two Palestinian women did outside of
the Capital building in front of a senator

580
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:07.440
Fetterman, and he had the gall
this power I balance just manifestly showing itself.

581
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.639
He pulls an Israeli flag out and
waives it in front of these people

582
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:16.400
whom he is forcing to pay taxes
in order to turn them into weapons that

583
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:23.960
will be supplied to Israel to possibly
blow their relatives to pieces. That's what

584
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:28.679
he doesn't seem to grasp. And
then they say, well, you can't

585
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:35.079
criticize the state of Israel, because
criticizing the state of Israel is criticism of

586
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:40.119
the people of Israel, and that's
anti Semitic. So what they're telling us

587
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:47.519
really is if they're saying that,
then that actually buys into the rationale that

588
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:52.599
Helmas can kill civilians. It buys
into the same rationale that the Times Square

589
00:44:52.639 --> 00:45:00.079
Bomber said, if we cannot criticize
the policies of a political entity, and

590
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:04.440
therefore that is criticism of the people
on the ground who might have no control

591
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.760
over that political entity, and might
be you know, a portion of them

592
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:13.960
probably disagree, but they're not so
called represented, then they themselves are tying

593
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:16.519
them all in. As I mentioned
on my show last night, Benjamin Netan

594
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Yahoo, as you know, more
than once said that it was better for

595
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:27.599
Israel to keep Hamas in power because
they would be an oppositional force and they

596
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:34.440
wouldn't negotiate. Therefore they could use
military force to keep pushing into Gaza.

597
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:38.760
Right, that was his plan.
The United States supported him and Israel supported

598
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:45.239
him. So what he actually did, he actually knowingly supported a group of

599
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:51.800
people that he knew would put the
people under him at greater risk of death,

600
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.320
kidnapping, and all the things that
they've been talking about since October seventh.

601
00:45:55.920 --> 00:46:00.599
We knew that he supported them.
Well, they need edic conflict to

602
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:07.239
initiate the changes that they want to
implementa right, And it's something Kennedy said,

603
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:14.960
those who make peaceful revolution impossible make
violent revolution inevitable. Right, Right,

604
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:20.280
So you're totally there is a school
of thought about blowback. This is

605
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:25.159
very much the Buchanan foreign policy.
You know, he predicted a cataclysmic terror

606
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:29.760
event on US soil in his book
A Republic Not an Empire in nineteen ninety

607
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.519
nine. I happen to agree with
that. But I also think, and

608
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:37.360
if you want to go a little
bit deeper, I think that those in

609
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.199
power know that. I think they
help recruit the people that are going to

610
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:44.440
carry out the terror. They help
them, they funnel it so it can

611
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:50.199
have the maximum. It's kind of
like FDR making sure that all the ships

612
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:54.920
were lined up in a certain way, that the commanders at Pearl Harbor didn't

613
00:46:55.000 --> 00:47:00.880
have the proper intelligence and weren't briefed
on what was actually happening. The Japanese

614
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:06.719
code called Purple months in advance,
we already knew that and let those people

615
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.239
just twist in the wind, not
that they you know, again that it's

616
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:15.000
not the Japanese did attack Pearl Harbor, but we didn't have to let them

617
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.000
do that, and that's that it
was. It was for the effect.

618
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:22.119
So it's I think that's a probably
a modern you know, this is one

619
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:27.480
thing the Project for the New American
Century said in September of two thousand that

620
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:32.519
they needed a pearl, a new
new Pearl Harbor to initiate the that the

621
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:37.800
again not just the Project for New
American Century, but that what John McCain

622
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:43.079
would call rogue state rollback, which
is really just the class project of the

623
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.159
military industrial complex and the neocons.
So true. And you know, I

624
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:52.880
think in high school when you hear
things about well Roosevelt he embarked on an

625
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:57.960
embargo of Japan because of the Sino
Japanese War, which was a terrible conflict,

626
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.639
and so on and so forth,
and I think a lot of times

627
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:05.840
those terms, you know, it's
you mentioned nineteen eighty four, COVID nineteen

628
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:09.199
eighty four, right, And it
is very much like the Ministry of Truth.

629
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:14.920
It's these terms become very soft.
People get to normalcy, biased they

630
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:17.000
become accustomed to these things, and
people don't question, well, how is

631
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:21.880
an embargoing forced? Oh, that's
right, with military power. It's actually

632
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.079
like it is an act of war. As I mentioned often, Rhode Island

633
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:30.079
was not going to participate in the
Constitution in agreeing to the Constitution, and

634
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:35.119
the other states threatened an embargo on
Rhode Island to get them to vote.

635
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:39.760
So that was to get the Constitution, which was a much more centralizing document

636
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:45.480
than Alexander Hamilton loved to get that, to usurp the Articles of Confederation,

637
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:50.360
to get that central taxing authority,
to supply money for a central bank,

638
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:53.199
to get the borrowing authority. And
we are off to the races from Alexander

639
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:58.000
Hamilton to Henry Clay, to Abraham
Lincoln right on through to Teddy Roosevelt,

640
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:02.199
running through to Hoover fdr Are all
the way through to Johnson Nixon, Clint

641
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:06.760
Carter, all the rest you know. For it's just it's just been a

642
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:10.159
series of dominoes ever since then,
represented by people who just want political power,

643
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:14.280
and they they know the magic sauce
that they can use, which is

644
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:17.239
central bank currency. And and that
embargo thing. Look at what they're doing.

645
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:22.360
Now you know there we so we
seized a Russian oligog's yacht, Like,

646
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.159
oh, did you give him trial? Did you give him due process?

647
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:28.440
Because I think there's this thing called
the Bill of Rights. I don't

648
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:34.000
remember it's uh, you know,
I think it's number eighth. No Cruel

649
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.360
and Unusual punishment. How can you
punish somebody if he hasn't been put on

650
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:42.199
trial? What crime did he commit? It's absurd they're going after guys from

651
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:46.559
from Hungary or Turkey because they're doing
business with Russians. Oh, we're gonna

652
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:52.039
shut down your bank accounts. You've
had that? Yeah, that makes me

653
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:55.880
think, yeah, yeah, I'm
really looking forward to my CBDC now,

654
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.079
Ah, you criticize Nikki Haley there, how buddy, It was kind of

655
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:04.960
like I was looking at the headlines
on Drudge, so I know what the

656
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:07.320
Central Intelligence Agency wants me to talk
about, or at least the narrative.

657
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:14.519
Thanks thanks for making that easy.
They've curated They've curated Operation Mockingbird for me

658
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:19.840
every morning, and I go and
take a look at that. But it

659
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:22.159
is it is funny because I looked
at the headlines and you know, they're

660
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:27.440
taking Trump off ballots, And I
thought, isn't it interesting that the people

661
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:31.639
that scream the most about our democracy, our democracy, it's killing our democracy.

662
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:37.639
They don't want democracy, which is
funny. They don't like ballot access,

663
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:42.800
they want people off ballots. They
don't they don't want any any sort

664
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:46.440
of checks and balances on who can
vote. So that kind of cancels out

665
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:51.239
democracy, doesn't it. But it's
the same people who also say, well,

666
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:53.320
if we can just save one child, you know, if if it's

667
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:58.559
it's for the children, and then
those people for abortion on demand, Oh

668
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:02.199
yeah, absolutely right, or like
Francis Collins. I just showed video of

669
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:06.559
Francis Collins last night that was out
there on Twitter. Again. You know,

670
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:09.960
God bless people who are putting that
information out there. You know,

671
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:15.280
Francis Collins in a meeting with these
sycophants, just sitting there and saying,

672
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:17.440
well, you know, when you're
involved with public health, nobody questions the

673
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:22.639
term public health. They just accept
it. I was like, what do

674
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:25.320
you mean the health of what?
What is that? Could you break that

675
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:30.280
down into the subunits of what you're
talking about? You mean people? Individual

676
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:34.239
people? Oh, that's right.
You were completely willing to sacrifice the rights

677
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:38.639
of individual people for this gestalt amorphous
term that you call public health, which

678
00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:45.400
you constantly were modifying and lying about
over and over. Meanwhile, you gave

679
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:51.559
outs to the farmer companies that completely
manipulated their data sets, and you put

680
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.000
this stuff out and now we can't
sue. Oh, thanks for being in

681
00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:59.880
power there, Pal. It's just
disgusting. It is the while I was

682
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:02.679
following orders thing, you know,
It's like I was talking about Douglas Murray,

683
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:07.199
the British commentator, and I was
amazed. I was surprised. I

684
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:10.519
had never I don't think I've ever
agreed with sank Unger or Uger in my

685
00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:15.800
life from the Young Turks, and
I was showing and I replayed it on

686
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:22.280
David's show. I was showing this
interview on that show Uncensored with Piers Morgan

687
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:25.920
Peers Morgan really kind of on balance
being a little easier, you know,

688
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:30.480
not like the guy's going to be
very tough at all, but being a

689
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:35.639
little easier on Douglas Murray and Douglas
Murray just throwing out insult after insult after

690
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:39.719
insult, not addressing actual real information
about numbers of deaths, Quotes from people

691
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:45.239
who had been Israeli hostages or the
parents of Israeli hostages and things like that,

692
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:46.840
not just to bring it back to
that conflict, but it is so

693
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:52.440
inflamed, and they're using it as
leverage in such a strong way to try

694
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:55.440
to target Syria and to try to
target Iran. Right now, as you

695
00:52:55.519 --> 00:53:00.480
and I speak, these guys are
meeting in Washington, DC in those marble

696
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.960
halls that have all been paid for
by taxpayers who could have spent their money

697
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:07.119
on other things that they might have
preferred. Now they're trying to figure out

698
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:09.960
new ways to spend our money on
more weapons to kill more people around the

699
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:15.280
world. And Lindsey Graham wants to
target Iran. Nicky Hanley wants to target

700
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:21.880
Iran. I think one of the
few people out there who's actually maybe more

701
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:23.719
in line with not doing so would
be Buyback. And I'm not going to

702
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:27.760
vote for anybody, you know,
I really could care less. And I

703
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:30.559
don't know about that man's background,
but at least some of his statements kind

704
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:35.480
of bring up some echoes, and
they're sort of soft echoes of sort of

705
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:39.280
the mindset of what Pat might have
said or what Ron Palm might have told

706
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:42.559
people like, you know, maybe
you want to look at this twice.

707
00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:45.800
This isn't a good idea. You
know, you have to run into guard

708
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.400
that, like the Senate itself and
the building there, and these are sacred

709
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:52.960
places, you know, this is
the this is the sacred this is the

710
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:59.239
sacred soil of our democracy. Guard
weah, it's very very reverent. As

711
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:01.599
a matter of fact, you have
had some Senate staffer recently make a video

712
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:04.800
there. I don't know if you
know about the video that was made.

713
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:07.280
Uh I was looking for it on
TikTok, but I guess Nikki Haley got

714
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:10.760
rid of it. Well, it's
very sacred. I mean, this is

715
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:16.360
just it and it's adult thing.
It's very sacred. This is the stuff

716
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:21.480
that, you know, the evil
that comes out of you. Ever seen

717
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:25.679
that that meme where it has Obi
Wan and Luke Skywalker and they're supposed to

718
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:30.320
be I don't know whatever they're the
I'm not a Star Wars Star Wars uh

719
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:35.840
aficionado. You probably you probably know
more than that. They're looking over and

720
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:37.519
they see it, says it shows
Washington d C. Is like you'll never

721
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:43.400
see more scum and villainy in a
place, more scumming more wretched hive of

722
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:46.000
scum and villainy. We must where
would they look? Was that tattooing?

723
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:49.840
What were they looking at? They
were on tattooing in front of the spaceport.

724
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:58.800
That's why you our Goldsmith's my sherpa
for pop culture. That's exactly what

725
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:02.719
it is. Just stop thinking.
This is that this is sacred that these

726
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:07.280
people, this is like the Hollywood
for ugly people. You know, these

727
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:13.480
politicians, I mean, your male
man is more important, it is,

728
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:16.360
it serves a greater function. Unfortunately, these people have lots of power.

729
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:22.760
They have a very little conscience and
uh and and they have unlimited monopoly money

730
00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:28.639
from from from the Luciferian banksters.
So we're in a we're in a fix

731
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:31.119
there. But you know, when
you got more and more people, I

732
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:37.880
think the popular consciousness shifting more and
more towards decentralization, individual liberty. This

733
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:40.920
is happening now. It's weird and
it's mixed because we got all these psyops

734
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:46.599
that trying to funnel people into dead
ends. Politically, I know that it's

735
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:50.519
very frustrating for us to watch because
everybody's like, I'm with team so and

736
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:52.000
so, and I'm you know,
I stand with so, and I'm like,

737
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:57.079
okay, but that you're you're captured
in the folkrum of the psychological operation

738
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:02.239
at this time. And I respect
the fact that you have some values and

739
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:06.199
you want to fight for something and
stand for something. But again, we're

740
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:09.000
almost there, We're getting there.
You know, you talked about Fetterman,

741
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:15.559
which I think he is a this
is just me. I think he is

742
00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:19.760
literally a humiliation ritual. I think
like he was put there to make you

743
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:24.760
feel like the country's stupid and we
can't I mean, the people of Pennsylvania.

744
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:29.199
This is the this is what the
best they can do. This guy

745
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:32.079
is I mean wearing a hoodie and
shorts into the Senate, which because by

746
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:35.559
the way, it's a sacred place, we don't want to do that.

747
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:40.519
But exactly he's supposed to walk in
naked. What's wrong with them? Just

748
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:45.440
he could phone it in from you
know, wherever, just to have a

749
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:52.000
screen representation of himself. He you're
talking about him with the Israeli flag,

750
00:56:52.119 --> 00:57:01.000
right, yeah, that I think
that attitude and the politics of yesterday,

751
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:07.719
I think we're are in steep decline. You're talking about foreign lobbies and what

752
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:14.920
people looking at their pocket books,
you know James Carville, who every once

753
00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:16.480
in a while was in the news
and he's famous for saying it was the

754
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:21.280
economy stupid in nineteen ninety two.
Yeah, well, this is going to

755
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:23.360
be so many things that hit people
in their pocket books. I mean,

756
00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:29.440
it's heart and home stability, crime, all the things that are happened when

757
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:35.239
you see a culture decay and has
been set for it's a controlled demolition,

758
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:38.639
like our culture guard. I think
the lot of these politics of yesterday are

759
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:42.840
just going to get thrown away by
the wayside. I think people will stop

760
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:47.840
playing by those rules in the sense
that you know, I think you talk

761
00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:52.639
about Israel and Israeli lobby, they
have a powerful lobby, but Apack's not

762
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:57.599
what it was twenty years ago.
No, No, absolutely, And especially

763
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:01.760
I think, you know, regardless
of what personercentage of the college gen zers

764
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:08.679
or or under them might be,
actually you know, really calling for extermination,

765
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:13.880
I think that's very small they And
of course now if you even call

766
00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:17.880
for a ceasefire, then people like
Douglas Murray are equating that to that you're

767
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:22.920
calling for the extermination of the Jews, which is just astounding, just amazing.

768
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:29.800
But I think a lot of those
people in the college campuses. It's

769
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:34.719
a sort of nascent and it might
not grow anymore, but it is a

770
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:40.559
nascent anti war movement, and it
seems to be fostered by recognizing what's been

771
00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:47.639
going on with Israel and Gaza.
And contrary, amazingly contrary to what George

772
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:52.880
Orwell pointed out, is the general
tendency of the vast majority of the public,

773
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:57.760
which is to forget things from minute
to minute. Remember those chocolate rations

774
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:00.840
there, Winston Smith. Yeah,
you're one of the only ones who remembers

775
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:04.920
that the chocolate rations were decreased just
two weeks ago. Now they're claiming they're

776
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:07.760
going up. Well, they're not
going out relative to where they were before

777
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:10.360
two weeks ago. But you're in
the Ministry of Truth, so you're one

778
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:15.119
of the few who sees how they're
manipulating information. And I mean that's the

779
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:16.519
opening of the book. You know, He's he's he's like, wait a

780
00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:20.280
minute, I just heard what are
they talking about on the radio? We

781
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:22.920
don't have as much chocolate as we
did, you know, sort of like

782
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:24.960
the employment numbers that they come out
with every month, and then they revised

783
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:30.079
them downwards two weeks later. You
know, but or inflation is down.

784
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:34.119
No, no, no, it's
still going up. It's just the the

785
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:37.840
rate of inflation has gone from three
point five percent to three point two percent

786
00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:42.800
or something like that. You know, it's ridiculous. And it's compounded year

787
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:45.480
to year. You know, it's
a functional equation, and so it's just

788
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:51.440
it's amazing. I think some of
these some of these younger people, you

789
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:53.599
know, they're starting to look into
some of the some of the background there.

790
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:58.119
I for some reason, I don't
know, you know, whether that

791
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:02.639
will expand or bleed over into other
things and recognizing the source, the money

792
01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:08.159
source, the borrowing source. But
they seem to be very connected to recognizing

793
01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:13.679
at least the military industrial complex.
Unfortunately, I think that also has been

794
01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:20.519
leveraged by many neo Marxists in the
United States throughout the twentieth century to get

795
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:24.440
anti war people to then attack the
very concept of capitalism, which in the

796
01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:29.960
United States really has not been real
capitalism. It's mercantilism. It's a form

797
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:35.679
of fascism. Government favors government,
corporate status that sort of stuff, and

798
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:38.599
handouts and things like that. So
when they look at the banking industry,

799
01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:43.920
I think many of them see it
through glasses that are a little bit clouded,

800
01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:47.039
where they don't recognize that if you
actually had free trade without the political

801
01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:54.000
system that everybody tries to gain,
then you wouldn't see this sort of situation

802
01:00:54.159 --> 01:01:00.159
with corporations taking advantage of people trying
to do rent seeking on people. Many

803
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:05.000
people become very anti free market when
they think that the United States is a

804
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:09.960
free market and they equate the military
industrial complex as supporting the capitalist system and

805
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:13.760
all, we've got to bring it
down. So a certain percentage of those

806
01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:16.039
people are going to tie in with
the Marxists. They think they're going to

807
01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:22.440
do the right thing with, you
know, the anti fascist movement ANTIFA,

808
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:27.719
when that was of course started in
Stalin's Soviet Union to try to infiltrate Germany

809
01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:31.119
and turn it from a national socialist
system to a world socialist Marxist system.

810
01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:35.440
Try to convince people to do that. So there are a lot of pitfalls

811
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:38.559
along the way. But right now
I think people like Lindsay Graham and so

812
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:43.440
on, they're shaking in their boots
and they're trying to do anything they possibly

813
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:49.199
can to generate a hot conflict with
Iran and get people's minds off of what

814
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:52.400
the Israelis have been doing in the
Middle East. And I think that that's

815
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:57.719
if they can expand this war to
make it even more dangerous for American civilians,

816
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:00.760
make more of their friends and neighbors
who are in the military, put

817
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:05.960
them more at risk than that.
I think they think that that will lend

818
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:09.679
credence to their arguments that we've got
to wipe out all these people and do

819
01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:13.920
this and it's not just for the
safety of Israel anymore, it's for all

820
01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:16.840
of our safety. That's where I
think they're going. I agree with you.

821
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:21.960
It's a great it's a great synopsis
and breakdown. By the way,

822
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:29.159
my friend thanks, we got got
it from Nikki Haley. Start start the

823
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:35.199
apologizing. Now, Guard, you
didn't revise your history. Uh the revision

824
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:39.119
wasn't revisionist enough. Let me bring
in my friend Don Jefferies. Don,

825
01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:42.760
welcome back to the Day of Night
show. Hey, how's it going,

826
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:49.000
guys? I certainly do And Don, I hope you got my email.

827
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:52.159
I didn't get to see it until
much later, No problem, no problem,

828
01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:55.639
It's great to see you and what
a great writer. And by the

829
01:02:55.679 --> 01:03:00.440
way, Tony, before I before
I head out, don I just want

830
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:04.880
to let you know I have given
your books to my sister Valerie and she

831
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:09.800
literally she texted me yesterday, is
like, wow, so well done.

832
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:13.719
Well, thank you. I really
appreciate that. Guard. Well, she

833
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:16.639
was just saying, wow, these
are really terrible. No not, I'll

834
01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:22.079
take I guess now she really likes
it. Thanks great, Thank you,

835
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:25.079
you got it, Tony. I'll
leave you guys. Leave you guys to

836
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:28.599
it, and maybe I'll see you
towards the end of the show. Thanks

837
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:31.760
for having me for the first hour, and I'll be listening. I appreciate

838
01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:35.320
it very much. And hats off
to David Knight and the family. And

839
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:37.920
by the way, I salute you
with my David Knight pen available at the

840
01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:43.679
David Knight Show. We didn't even
plug. I know, we did a

841
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:46.760
whole hour. I didn't do a
commercial. I didn't plug and that that

842
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:51.159
reminds me. Guard Thedavidnightshow dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, it's how you

843
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:53.239
can go and find all the David
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844
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:58.079
you can buy at mugs, hats, shirts, pins, all the

845
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:02.039
things that support David. You can
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846
01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:05.920
in for David, but we cannot
replace him. Does just make that very

847
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:13.320
clear. Uh. He is a
treasure and his work ethic and all the

848
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:15.760
research that he does is wisdom.
We need him more than ever. So

849
01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:19.880
support the show d Davidnightshow dot com
and we'll talk a little bit about let

850
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:23.719
me later whenever I get to it. We'll plug David Knight dot Gold.

851
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:27.719
Somewhere in the show. I'll plug
it. I've got stories on on Gold

852
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:33.039
and what's happening with de dollarization.
We'll maybe when Don and I we might

853
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:36.000
get into that. Because Don wrote
to Survival of the Richest. He knows

854
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:42.159
a thing or two about the casino
economy, as I got that term from

855
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:45.719
Don. But I appreciate you Guard. Yeah, joining the third hour if

856
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.400
you want, Yeah, I'd love
to thank you. Great stuff. You

857
01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:51.840
guys are angels in my eyes.
I really appreciate all the stuff you do.

858
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:56.880
Just like David Spammy too. I
appreciate it. I appreciate you Guard.

859
01:04:56.960 --> 01:05:00.679
Thank you, See you guys in
while. See you well, mister

860
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:05.440
Jefferies. I'm supposed to host yesterday, folks. I just got a little

861
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:12.159
run down from holiday travels and just
being on the road and wasn't able to

862
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:15.280
get it done. Don graciously just
accepted to come back. Was supposed to

863
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:20.239
be on yesterday, but Don,
while I was traveling, you had sent

864
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:26.159
me a copy of your of your
newest book. I want to talk about

865
01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:29.440
that. I'm because I'm fast.
There's a to set it up, and

866
01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:34.559
I hope I'm doing it justice.
There's a scene in Oliver Stone's JFK and

867
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:40.239
there is a figure played by John
Candy and he's a he's an attorney.

868
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:43.599
He's talking to Jim Garrison, who
was the DA in New Orleans, and

869
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:47.280
there's they're just kind of opening up
the involvement of and I believe we're talking

870
01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:55.760
about Clay Shaw right in the assassination
of JFK. And this this character and

871
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:58.159
I've it's off the top of my
head and we'll get into the name.

872
01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:01.400
But his he kind of plays a
beatnik. It's kind of got that same

873
01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:05.400
beatnik language. And there's a woman
in red dress and he says, oh

874
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:10.440
popped the bimbo and red and that's
where you get that it's very very unique

875
01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:15.119
language that he was using. But
the story is fascinating because it's really the

876
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:20.480
subplot to Oliver Stone's JFK and you
were able to go and meet with that

877
01:06:21.079 --> 01:06:26.920
man's son in the form a relationship
and I mean, you know, in

878
01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:30.480
real life and then just delve into
that whole, which this is what Don

879
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:34.039
does. If you haven't read his
book Hidden History, Crimes and cover Ups

880
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:40.840
in American Politics seventeen seventy six,
the nineteen sixty three Survival of the Richest.

881
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:44.320
I mean, you got many many
books that I that I love,

882
01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:46.960
and you have on Borrow Fame we've
talked about on this show. But this

883
01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:49.880
is the newest one. I wanted
to talk to you about it. I

884
01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:54.480
haven't had a chance to read all
of it yet, but I am fascinated

885
01:06:54.559 --> 01:07:00.840
by it because it does tie together
a win association of you know Clay Shaw

886
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:04.920
who went by the alias clay bertram
Right, and he was he had the

887
01:07:06.199 --> 01:07:13.519
International Trade UH and intelligence connections,
Operation Mongoose, all that was going on

888
01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:16.800
in that area. So tell me
about what what got you to write the

889
01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:21.960
book and and what's the what's the
theme. Well, this one was co

890
01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:25.960
written, by the way, with
William Mattsen Lahma, my friend, and

891
01:07:26.039 --> 01:07:30.000
he's an underrecognized JFK researcher. He's
written several books himself. He's a specialist

892
01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:33.039
on the autopsy evidence. I don't
think anybody knows more about it than he

893
01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:36.840
does, so tip of the hat
to him. But it was inspired by

894
01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:42.880
my friendship. Actually my brother.
My brother was best friends with Dean Andrews

895
01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:46.559
the third and this is the son
of Dean Andrews Junior, who you described

896
01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:51.199
was the Beatnick lawyer, and he
ended up being one of the crucial witnesses

897
01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:57.880
in the Jim Garrison case because Dean
Andrews Junior, the Beatnick lawyer played by

898
01:07:57.960 --> 01:08:02.519
John Candy, on the late in
the afternoon, early evening of the assassination,

899
01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:09.079
he was in the hospital and he
received a phone call from Clay Bertrand,

900
01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:14.079
and he would later tell investigators about
it, and naturally they were and

901
01:08:14.280 --> 01:08:18.159
he was told by Bertrand they wanted
him to represent Lee Harvey Oswald. Now

902
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:23.680
he had done who had killed,
yet he had done work for Oswald and

903
01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:28.119
a very small capacity for trying to
get his dishonorable discharge, changed the military

904
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:31.880
and work on his wife who would
come from Russia her immigration status. So

905
01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:35.159
I think he became embroiled in that. And again I explained in the plot,

906
01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:38.920
but I think this is all about
in New Orleans. But and any

907
01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:42.760
read that phone call changed his life
and changed young Dean's life as well.

908
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:45.079
And he part of the book is
he Dean goes on the record for the

909
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:47.520
first time. And he had been
a family friend for years. I became

910
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:51.560
close friends with him through my brother. We had him over the house many

911
01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:57.359
times for family get togethers and so
forth, and he was fascinating to me.

912
01:08:57.439 --> 01:08:59.720
And I was fascinating to him because
he had never met, you know,

913
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:01.680
one of the researchers that knew all
this stuff about it. I knew

914
01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:05.920
more about his dad related to thessassination
than he did, so we were moodually

915
01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:10.319
fascinated with each other. And this
is the first time he really went on

916
01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:14.319
the record. William and interviewed him, and we have the transcript of the

917
01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:17.960
interview there. And he taught a
lot of background stuff which is very fascinating.

918
01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:21.359
He touches on the camps, the
anti Castro camps which he visited with

919
01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:27.279
his father, and his father's reaction
and how behind the scenes, despite the

920
01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:31.000
fact he turned on Garrison to save
his own neck and you know, committed

921
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:35.119
perjury and did every thing he could
to stop Garrison because he saw all the

922
01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:38.279
other people being died and he said, I don't want to be crushed.

923
01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:40.479
I like to breathe. I don't
want to be crushed like a brug.

924
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:44.760
But behind the scenes, as we
show in the book, he was extremely

925
01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:46.880
paranoid and he thought they were out
to get him. For the rest of

926
01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:50.600
his life, he knew there was
a huge conspiracy. So this book,

927
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:55.479
we wanted to concentrate on the New
Orleans aspect of it because of Dean's connection.

928
01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:59.279
But it's important because I call what
I write about in the book.

929
01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:03.119
We write about the book is the
ground level plot, the ground level conspirators.

930
01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:05.960
These are the people. This is
where Lee Harvey Oswald was framed.

931
01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:09.920
He was framed in New Orleans.
This is where he was set up.

932
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:13.640
He was manipulated into this group.
I believe, like Jim Garrison did that

933
01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:16.359
at the time of the assassination,
he was an undercover agent for the FBI,

934
01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:19.680
CIA office enable and telling us we
don't know. He had connections apparently

935
01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:26.640
with all these things, but somebody
instructed him, assigned him to infiltrate a

936
01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:30.560
plot to kill the president with these
characters. And I believe that's why almost

937
01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:35.039
alone among the researchers. I completely
discount the Cuban connection and the assassination.

938
01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:39.560
I think it's a complete smoke screen. It's akin to what when you hear

939
01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:43.239
of the Vakramaswami and other people and
Trump and when they talk about the Saudi

940
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:45.640
Arabian connection nine to eleven. It's
kind of a at a level, it's

941
01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:49.720
a smoke screen, and it should
divert attention away. But the Cuba had

942
01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:51.960
nothing to do with the assassination.
I don't believe, because I think at

943
01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:56.199
the proof is what happened after the
assassination, which is nothing. Cuba died

944
01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:59.920
as an American political issue. There
was no second Day of Pigs. Nobody

945
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:02.920
tried to assassinate Castro, Obja and
Nick or anyone else. Castro outlived them

946
01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:06.840
all. But critics continue to act
as if this was significant. But these

947
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:11.239
figures were undoubtedly there, and we
talk about them in the book. Carlo

948
01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:14.479
Springeer who's still alive, and so
many others. A Lattio del Valle who

949
01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:16.359
ended up with a hatchet at his
head the same day, David Ferry was

950
01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:24.279
probably murdered. Who was a place. Who's Garrison's main witness really but I

951
01:11:24.359 --> 01:11:29.000
think these figures again, were they
I go beyond Garrison. I think they

952
01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:31.119
may have all because they all had
connections to intelligence too. They may have

953
01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:34.560
all been working against each other.
They may unbeknownst they may have all been

954
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:39.720
told the same thing. Hey infiltrate
this plot, And I personally think that's

955
01:11:39.720 --> 01:11:43.880
probably what happened, because they all
acted like that, and at any rate,

956
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:45.720
Oswald got sucked in there. He
was set up to be the patsy.

957
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:48.720
And I think Dean Andrews Junior,
the lawyer we talk about, I

958
01:11:48.760 --> 01:11:53.800
think he was manipulated as well,
and maybe very well have been why Oswald

959
01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:57.039
was sent to him, you know, to these legal matters and why he's

960
01:11:57.079 --> 01:12:00.279
you know, Andrew specialized during that
summer of nineteen sixty three and somebody what

961
01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:03.720
he called the gay caballeros, you
know, a lot of these anti Castro

962
01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:08.560
Cubans. Who Why there were so
many gays connected to this case, I

963
01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:13.319
don't know, but there unquestionably was, and for what people can expect that

964
01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:15.760
on that all they want, but
especially for nineteen sixty three. They're an

965
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:20.439
awful lot of gay connections here,
for whatever it means. But so in

966
01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:28.199
this book, we I went through
Harold Weisberg's Oswald New Orleans who It's an

967
01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:30.680
underappreciated book was written. Jim Garrison
had a lot of his research on that

968
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:35.920
I was able to track down for
the first time. We talked to the

969
01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:40.840
family of Lee Harvey, Oswald's best
friend in high school, which is ed

970
01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:45.720
Vobel, and I'd always thought he
had been killed because he died very mysteriously

971
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:48.079
in his early thirties at the Alvin
Auchner clinic. And Albin Oxter was another

972
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:53.720
guy who had connections not only to
Clay Shaw and we talk about that in

973
01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:56.920
the book, but he had connections
to a lot of Third World dictators,

974
01:12:56.920 --> 01:13:00.239
a lot of the CIA, obviously
CIA connections. They would go to his

975
01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:03.159
clinic to get treatment, and Ed
Voebel, Oswald's best friend in high school,

976
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:08.239
went there and died very mysteriously.
And I was able to become friends

977
01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:10.800
with his sisters, who went on
the record for the first time. I

978
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:13.279
won't put any spoilers out there,
but there are a picture in the book,

979
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:16.239
and you know, we have lots
of lots of interesting things, you

980
01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:19.239
know, so people will see the
background here and this is again these are

981
01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:24.640
I don't want anyone to think these
are not the real conspirators other than clay

982
01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:26.840
Shaw. I think clay Shaw,
and we go into his background, it

983
01:13:26.880 --> 01:13:29.880
goes all the way back to Operation
paper Clip in World War Two. He

984
01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:33.479
had connections everywhere into everything Perman Decks, which you know may well have been

985
01:13:33.520 --> 01:13:38.319
in an international assassination bureau. If
you saw the film The Parallax View with

986
01:13:38.359 --> 01:13:41.479
Warren Bady in the seventies that was
kind of based on permanent Perman decks.

987
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:45.640
You have people out there, and
one of Hitler's old age was involved with

988
01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:49.279
perman X. So was the former
president of Hungary. You know, lots

989
01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:55.800
of very powerful people that clay Shaw
was involved with. He was no mirror.

990
01:13:56.039 --> 01:13:59.920
They tried to paint him as a
kindly philanthropist and he was hardly.

991
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:04.680
That's this is the I think people
will see what these are all people being

992
01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:08.880
manipulated. Jack Ruby, David Ferry, all these people, the varying degrees.

993
01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:13.079
I think they were pawns themselves,
Patsy's to some degree to set up

994
01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:15.960
the real Patsy. And they were
probably not even unwittingly doing it. But

995
01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:20.520
I think clay Shaw was probably the
condoit. He was probably the connection between

996
01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:26.159
that ground level plot and the people
above him who were the real players,

997
01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:29.520
the people in the Pentagon of the
CIA or wherever this plot came from.

998
01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:34.920
But it came from far above any
anti Castro Cubans or rogue CIA agents as

999
01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:38.239
they like to say. And there's
nothing rogue about this. This was This

1000
01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:43.439
was done at the top levels of
the power structure. When you say the

1001
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:51.399
Cuban connection, you're referring to the
researchers implicating the anti Castro. Yeah's that

1002
01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:55.760
what you're doing. So that if
you'll watch the movie JFK and that Operation

1003
01:14:55.960 --> 01:15:00.479
Mongoose. Of course Kennedy didn't send
air cover during the Bay of Pigs.

1004
01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:05.079
Then of course you had the Cuban
Missile crisis where Kennedy trades the Jupiter missiles

1005
01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:09.439
in Turkey. You know, there's
that back channel communicy with CRUSE Chief and

1006
01:15:09.479 --> 01:15:15.560
all that was there that upset the
Central Intelligence Agency and the hard liners.

1007
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:18.439
You're right, though, it is
interesting if that is the case. Why

1008
01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:23.800
you know Kennedy was assassinated, then
why didn't we It was free It was

1009
01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:26.199
a free for all after that.
I mean, you you could have had

1010
01:15:26.239 --> 01:15:30.720
a very hard line anti Castro.
You know, President in LBJ. I'm

1011
01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:35.039
sure he could be swayed easily,
but that didn't happen. What do you

1012
01:15:35.159 --> 01:15:42.560
think why is it that that so
many of these figures were in the anti

1013
01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:47.079
Castro orbit though, like the Operation
Mongoose and all that that was happening,

1014
01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:49.640
all the stuff that was happening in
New Orleans. What do you think that

1015
01:15:50.239 --> 01:15:53.359
was? Well, yeah, I
think it was all part of the I

1016
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:57.359
mean, I don't know how far
advanced this this plot was. What we

1017
01:15:57.479 --> 01:16:01.399
do know that Jagger Hoover was asking
about Lee Harvey Oswald in nineteen sixty.

1018
01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:03.760
There's a memo out there that he
said, you know, we're concerned that

1019
01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:08.479
Oswald is being impersonated. Of course, in this book we talk about how

1020
01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:11.840
he was not only impersonated in Dallas, and people were people familiar with at

1021
01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:15.039
the gun range and driving the car, and lots of people who saw someone

1022
01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:17.399
who claimed to be Oswald but clearly
wasn't because he was documented to be in

1023
01:16:17.560 --> 01:16:21.279
somewhere else at the time, work
and places like that. But he was

1024
01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:25.760
being impersonated in New Orleans as well, and we go through that. How

1025
01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:30.159
we have a transcriptive entity with Anne
Dishler, who William Wall, my co

1026
01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:32.279
author, became friends with. She's
deceased now, but she worked for Jim

1027
01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:36.560
Garrison for a while and she talks
about one of the things she was investigating

1028
01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:40.920
was all these Oswald sightings in New
Orleans, which a lot of them were

1029
01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:43.760
unknown to people. I mean,
one time at a bar, he made

1030
01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:45.439
a big production of throwing up on
the bar and getting real drunk, or

1031
01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:49.199
somebody claiming to be Oswald was So
he's attracting attention and throwing that Oswald name

1032
01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:54.000
out there. Why they tied it
into Cuban again, I think it's just

1033
01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:57.680
a smoke screen to try to say
that, you know, this is what

1034
01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:01.920
because Kennedy clearly was going for a
reproach, not with a Castro at the

1035
01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:04.880
time his death. He didn't want
to. And they continue and the lie.

1036
01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:09.880
There's so many layers to this,
Tony, where the lies continue to

1037
01:17:09.920 --> 01:17:14.399
be pushed that the Kennedy brothers were
behind the attempts on Castro, and there's

1038
01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:15.720
a whole subsection of people out there
saying, well, yeah, RFK.

1039
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:19.439
You know, he he felt so
terrible at the assassination because what he'd been

1040
01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:23.119
doing came back and blew up in
his face, and you know he was

1041
01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:27.399
he was irate when he found out
what they've been, especially because he had

1042
01:17:27.439 --> 01:17:30.600
been the only administration, the only
administration ever to target the mafia. When

1043
01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:33.680
he found out the CIA had been
using the mafia in this, he was

1044
01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:40.000
really apoplectic and he was very bitter. His later Jack Anderson would drop a

1045
01:17:40.039 --> 01:17:43.119
column about it when RFK was running
for president again try to stop him,

1046
01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:45.760
and he was incensed. He told
his age, you know, this is

1047
01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:47.800
ridiculous. I tried to stop it. We wouldn't have done it. So

1048
01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:53.159
what they were doing and their comical
attempts to kill Castro, I mean,

1049
01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:55.680
I have to think the CIA could
have killed them if they really wanted to.

1050
01:17:56.279 --> 01:18:00.439
But I mean putting h you know, put poison in his heart or

1051
01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:02.720
something, and it's toothpaste. I
mean, just really get smart type of

1052
01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:06.239
stuff. I think that if it
even happened, you know, this can

1053
01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:15.079
all be mythed We don't know,
but we do know that that what happened

1054
01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:17.319
afterwards, if you look at the
motivation for something a crime of this magazine,

1055
01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:21.079
the fact that's still covered up what
changed afterwards where some people said he

1056
01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:25.159
was killed because the civil rights and
that didn't change at all. Civil rights

1057
01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:29.039
legislation went through, and we've had
several other civil rights legislations since then.

1058
01:18:29.159 --> 01:18:31.279
That clearly wasn't the motive. You
know, segregation just didn't have the power

1059
01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:35.439
over the media to just still be
covering it up sixty years later. Anti

1060
01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:39.600
Castro people think again, if they
wanted a second day of pigs, they

1061
01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:44.039
had to have considered the assassination a
miserable failure because they got nothing. They

1062
01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:47.600
said, Cuba died as a campaign
issue. So but what did change?

1063
01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:51.399
Vietnam certainly changed, and I think
that's all we can be looked at one

1064
01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:58.840
of the primary motivators because JFK,
before the assassination, had the months before

1065
01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:02.319
and put out this National Security Action
memberund Him two sixty three, which started

1066
01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:06.359
the process of withdrawal from Vietnam,
and then Oliver Stone does make a lot

1067
01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:10.800
of references to this in the movie
JFK. However, the day of the

1068
01:19:10.840 --> 01:19:15.000
assassination, I mean the day before
the assassination. McGeorge Bundy, who was

1069
01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:18.039
a national security advisor to Canaday you
think like the Henry Kissinger to JFK.

1070
01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:24.920
He wrote National Security Action Metteran in
two seventy three, of course JFK never

1071
01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:27.119
saw it. If JFK had seen
it, he would have been fired on

1072
01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:30.680
the spot. He wrote this again
he had and so if people want to

1073
01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:32.680
know prior minds, I think McGeorge
Bundy had to be a conspirator in the

1074
01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:36.039
White House is logically because he wouldn't
have written a memo like that which flip

1075
01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:41.039
flopped the Vietnam strategy and said no, you know, we have to help,

1076
01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:45.840
which is what JFK said. No, this is recently too, so

1077
01:19:45.560 --> 01:19:49.079
I think those are one of those
calling cards that telltale's sign. And so

1078
01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:55.079
what happened after the assassination clearly what
JFK wanted. And he was on the

1079
01:19:55.600 --> 01:20:00.000
all troops out by nineteen sixty five
and it's their war and all that stuff,

1080
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:04.399
and he told all his age this, but that changed dramatically because after

1081
01:20:04.439 --> 01:20:09.600
the assassination with the escalation began.
So if you want to and that's one

1082
01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:13.039
key thing where you look at it, okay, if they wanted to kill

1083
01:20:13.119 --> 01:20:15.680
him and stop something that worked.
If you want to look at his comments

1084
01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:21.000
about abolishing the CIA, he talked
about actually abolishing the CIA. Imagine that

1085
01:20:21.119 --> 01:20:26.039
now it's shattering it to a thousand
pieces to the wind. Yeah, just

1086
01:20:26.119 --> 01:20:30.239
think about that. So obviously after
the assassination, that certainly changed because the

1087
01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:34.560
CIA just got stronger and the Federal
Reserve. He was trying to reign in

1088
01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:38.439
the Federal Reserve. A lot of
people think he had issued the soilber certificates.

1089
01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:42.880
That's kind of unclear, But regardless
of Federal Reserve's power, was intact

1090
01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:45.760
the mafia. No one ever targeted
the mafia. Again, Richard Dixon completely

1091
01:20:45.800 --> 01:20:49.199
ignored the mafia and Israel. You
know, at the time of the assassination.

1092
01:20:49.319 --> 01:20:54.680
That's more relevant now today is that
JFK was the first president to confront

1093
01:20:54.800 --> 01:21:00.600
Israel, the first really the only
modern president and would he He was very

1094
01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:03.720
incensed behind the scenes and went involved
in heated exchanges of David ben Uri and

1095
01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:09.239
the President of them developing nuclear weapons. Obviously that changed because we saw in

1096
01:21:09.279 --> 01:21:14.680
nineteen sixty seven the USS liberty was
attacked by Israel and was covered up for

1097
01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:16.920
decades, and Lindon Johnson was the
one who led that cover up. He

1098
01:21:17.039 --> 01:21:21.119
was very pro Israel. Obviously,
Nixon, for everyone down to Jimmy Carter,

1099
01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:26.560
was a little more even handed.
But so these are all things that

1100
01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:30.119
if you look at okay, what
changed with JFK's death. All that did,

1101
01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:33.720
but Cuba didn't in terms, it
didn't change the way they wanted to.

1102
01:21:34.199 --> 01:21:36.520
In fact, they just left it
alone and cast her again. As

1103
01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:40.399
I said, outlive them all.
So I just look at that's just you

1104
01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:42.640
know, I don't know exactly what
happened, but I just think if you

1105
01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:47.199
look at you look at it logically, that's the way things turned out.

1106
01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:56.079
Well, that is interesting. I
go back to his American University speech June

1107
01:21:56.159 --> 01:22:01.279
nineteen sixty three. If you want
to know why the deep state murdered JFK.

1108
01:22:01.640 --> 01:22:08.520
My opinion, it's right there.
It's one of the most beautiful cases

1109
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:15.560
ever made of respecting human life and
striving towards peace, and that peace isn't

1110
01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:18.760
profitable, you know, it's there
is there is a it's a higher calling

1111
01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:24.279
because it's anesthetical to all the things
that drives so much of the corruption.

1112
01:22:25.159 --> 01:22:28.359
And that speech is beautiful. You
know, we all, we all breathe

1113
01:22:28.399 --> 01:22:30.319
the same air, we all cherish
the children's future, and we're all mortal.

1114
01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:34.199
He's speaking about the the Soviet Union. You know. Reagan would later

1115
01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:39.359
call them the evil Empire one time
in the early nineteen eighties. But even

1116
01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:43.640
Reagan, you know, by the
end of the eighties was walking arm in

1117
01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:48.640
arm with Gorbachev and Red Square and
invoking God and prayer. So, I

1118
01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:54.239
mean, you can juxtapose that to
the leadership we have now, don and

1119
01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:58.079
you and I talk about this every
week, and it's so this psychopathy is

1120
01:22:58.119 --> 01:23:00.880
so, it's so, it's so
insane that the lust for war, both

1121
01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:04.680
parties, the both major parties,
just driving us towards war for different ends,

1122
01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:10.159
different reasons. But the military industrial
complex survives. And I think that

1123
01:23:10.319 --> 01:23:16.239
really is something that JFK was reining
in, or at least rhetoric, and

1124
01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:20.359
I think it was real that he
believed in those things that he believed in

1125
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:25.119
peace. He wanted to I think
he wanted to leave that sort of legacy.

1126
01:23:25.199 --> 01:23:28.960
And he'd been and you've written about
this, but he'd been given his

1127
01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:32.359
last rites what three times by the
time he was in his early forties.

1128
01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:34.520
You know, he'd been on death's
door. Of course, you have Pt.

1129
01:23:34.640 --> 01:23:39.439
One oh nine in the Pacific and
his boat was his boat was cut

1130
01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:44.199
in half. He dragged, you
know, is one of his his crewman,

1131
01:23:45.159 --> 01:23:47.840
his teeth, you know, in
the water. Here's another example.

1132
01:23:48.039 --> 01:23:54.920
Yesterday I bought two old notes.
One is a twenty dollars bill. I

1133
01:23:55.000 --> 01:24:00.520
read this earlier. The twenty dollars
bill really gives it away, donn print.

1134
01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:03.159
They don't put these on the new
twenty dollars bills. But it says

1135
01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:09.000
that it's redeemable and lawful money.
Yeah, right, which means that what

1136
01:24:09.079 --> 01:24:12.760
it's supposed to be is a certificate. This isn't money. It's a certificate

1137
01:24:12.840 --> 01:24:15.159
so you can get money, which
is they're talking about gold. But here's

1138
01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:20.199
something really interesting. Okay, this
is a nineteen sixty three five dollars bill.

1139
01:24:21.039 --> 01:24:26.159
Okay. The reason I bought that
they only made them like that one

1140
01:24:26.279 --> 01:24:30.359
time. Yeah, okay. It's
not a Federal Reserve note. There is

1141
01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:34.840
no Federal Reserve stamp on this note. And this came direct from the Treasury,

1142
01:24:35.399 --> 01:24:39.920
And the reason it did is because
it was issued by JFK. He

1143
01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:44.880
wanted direct notes from the Treasury,
so he was like you talked about the

1144
01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:50.279
Federal Reserve and his executive order on
silver. Those things are reasons to be

1145
01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:57.159
suspicious of, you know, the
financial sector being involved in his death.

1146
01:24:57.239 --> 01:25:01.960
And it is the irony of ironies. The only two presidents to ever notes

1147
01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:06.279
direct from the Treasury, and Lincoln's
on this one. JFK is the other.

1148
01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:11.600
They both got shot in the head
in public, as Jim Mars would

1149
01:25:11.640 --> 01:25:15.079
reference for all the time. So
there's something. Not that I even agree

1150
01:25:15.119 --> 01:25:18.079
with greenbacks or anything, but I
think, yeah, taking the power away

1151
01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:23.239
from the Federal Reserve, there's an
argument there. So I agree with you

1152
01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:27.000
on I think that it's kind of
a a ruse to say that it was

1153
01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:30.640
all about Cuba or something like that. I think he'd made a lot of

1154
01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:35.920
those you know, Alan Dulles,
you know a lot of these the CIA

1155
01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:39.760
and the Bay of Pigs failure and
all that, just exposing that. I

1156
01:25:39.840 --> 01:25:43.199
think that had something to do with
it, But I don't think it was

1157
01:25:43.279 --> 01:25:45.960
just these crazy Cuban connections. I
agree with that. Yeah. No,

1158
01:25:46.039 --> 01:25:50.319
And you referenced the American University Speeches
is June in nineteen sixty three, and

1159
01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:54.119
I think he signed his death warrant
with that. I think it's the greatest

1160
01:25:54.119 --> 01:25:58.079
speech ever delivered by an American president, and people will just read it there.

1161
01:25:58.119 --> 01:26:00.720
You've never heard any other politician talk
about it that. And he wanted

1162
01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:02.199
what do I mean by peace?
Not my peace? And our time,

1163
01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:05.159
but peace for all time. I
mean, he was he was he was

1164
01:26:05.359 --> 01:26:10.720
raging against the concept of war itself. And he was the first person political

1165
01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:14.399
figure I had ever seen that demanded
that we look at our enemies. At

1166
01:26:14.439 --> 01:26:17.079
that time, it was the Soviets
in human terms. He said, you

1167
01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:20.039
know, they they they you know, they love their children and cherish their

1168
01:26:20.079 --> 01:26:24.399
future too, and we don't look
at that. I mean, I've argued

1169
01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:26.840
with people back in the name when
they're talking about Nazis and people like that.

1170
01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:28.760
I said, well, you know, these are human beings. They

1171
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:30.159
weren't human. You know. It's
like I said, you know, do

1172
01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:34.760
you think they didn't love their children? And they can't see they can't see

1173
01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:41.159
the enemy in human terms, and
they especially when I'm talking about the leaders,

1174
01:26:41.640 --> 01:26:45.760
but I'm talking about the average soldier
that you know, that are fighting

1175
01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:47.960
for obviously greater forces. But jfk
was, you're right about the Bay of

1176
01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:53.319
Pigs, and he got off to
the I mean, people realize what as

1177
01:26:53.520 --> 01:26:56.520
Fletcher Proud he used to say,
you know, he say he can't tell

1178
01:26:56.560 --> 01:27:00.000
you what what what rberations went through
the Pentagon over this, and think albers

1179
01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:04.119
Stun has that in his film with
Donald Sutherland playing mister X, who was

1180
01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:09.399
based on Tletcher Brownie, who was
with the Joint Chiefs of Staff and saw

1181
01:27:09.560 --> 01:27:13.319
this from an inside do but the
idea that after the Bay of Pigs,

1182
01:27:13.319 --> 01:27:15.840
which Kennedy was shocked by because he
again he was a naive young president.

1183
01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:20.119
He had been planned in the Eisenhearer
administration with Richard Dixon as the political connection

1184
01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:26.159
there as a vice president uh total
ci operation, and they assured him and

1185
01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:29.680
we would see this later with their
rock and place like that is that,

1186
01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:32.039
oh the Cuban when we get there, they're going to instantly, you know,

1187
01:27:32.079 --> 01:27:34.439
they'll welcome us and like we would
leader here with the rock, they'll

1188
01:27:34.479 --> 01:27:39.840
throw flowers at s and it's exact
same kind of philosophy. They said,

1189
01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:42.279
well, they see the Americans,
you know it's coming in there. Well,

1190
01:27:42.359 --> 01:27:45.079
man, they're gonna the entire people
just say, they'll run from this

1191
01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:47.640
castro guy. So Kennedy was,
you know, he was a he had

1192
01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:51.159
Cold War spirit in him, as
his inaugur Old Dress would would say.

1193
01:27:51.239 --> 01:27:55.640
So at the time he thought,
Okay, well this I guess they he

1194
01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:58.680
was naive. Maybe he thought they
knew what they were doing. But so

1195
01:27:59.159 --> 01:28:01.359
they blamed him for not providing air
tower. He never thought he'd have to

1196
01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:03.159
do that, and he said,
no, this he looked and saw it

1197
01:28:03.239 --> 01:28:06.359
was a disaster. I'm not going
to make it worse. So they never

1198
01:28:06.439 --> 01:28:11.760
forgave him for that, and he
never forgave them. And he fired Alan

1199
01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:13.960
Dallis, who was the director of
the CIA. Right after it. He

1200
01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:16.680
fired Richard Bissell, who was the
second in command, and he fired General

1201
01:28:16.760 --> 01:28:20.119
Charge Cabell, said, General Charles
Cabell, who was the third command and

1202
01:28:20.119 --> 01:28:26.039
whose brother, Earl Cabell was the
mayor of Dallas in November of nineteen sixty

1203
01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:29.520
three. And later we found that
in one of the subsequent releases, had

1204
01:28:29.560 --> 01:28:33.239
been a longtime CIA asset himself to
no in surprise, but just imagine,

1205
01:28:34.359 --> 01:28:41.439
as proudly said, the reverberations throughout
the military industrial complex and the intelligence establishment.

1206
01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:45.760
When he fired the top three people
in the CIA, he clearly,

1207
01:28:45.960 --> 01:28:49.479
even though he very very admirably accepted
blame, he said, looked as my

1208
01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:55.199
fault. I'm the responsible officer of
the executive branch. And I think he

1209
01:28:55.239 --> 01:28:59.520
said something like, you know,
they said, the thing is that victory

1210
01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:02.439
as a thought fathers a defeat as
an orphan and you know which, JFK

1211
01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:06.760
always had this great No other presidents
ever come up with these great lines from

1212
01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:12.600
history that people need to remember.
But so when he fired them, that

1213
01:29:12.800 --> 01:29:16.079
was and Dulles already hated and people
can't And I'm I think Sigle handedly trying

1214
01:29:16.119 --> 01:29:19.960
to restore the reputation of old Joe
Kennedy, who I think was a great

1215
01:29:19.960 --> 01:29:24.039
American, one of the great figures
of the twentieth century, behind the scene,

1216
01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:27.880
and he's been smeared relentlessly. But
one of the things he did,

1217
01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:31.520
and I've found this out from Robert
F. Kennedy Junior in his book American

1218
01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:35.640
Values, where he talked about I
had had no idea that Joe Kennedy Senior

1219
01:29:35.680 --> 01:29:41.319
had sat on a commission in the
nineteen fifties to study the CIA, and

1220
01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:44.920
he was the most vocal critic on
that commission, and he said at that

1221
01:29:45.039 --> 01:29:47.199
time, we've got to rein them
in, we've got to take all their

1222
01:29:47.279 --> 01:29:53.760
power away except for strict foreign intelligence
gathering. And Dulles was the director at

1223
01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:57.560
that time. So you can imagine
the antipathy Dallas felt already for the Kennedy

1224
01:29:57.640 --> 01:30:00.039
family. So many people hated the
old man anyhow up. But I mean,

1225
01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:04.399
you know, Joe Kennedy Senior had
been one of the foremost anti war

1226
01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:08.840
activists of his time. He was
not only, as RFK Junior's point out,

1227
01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:11.479
he was an art he was an
anti war. Uh uh, a

1228
01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:15.399
World War One anti protester as a
young guy. And that's where he first

1229
01:30:15.479 --> 01:30:18.479
clashed with Franklin Roosevelt at the two
at the time was Assistant Secretary of the

1230
01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:24.000
Navy and a typical Lindsay Graham type
chickenhawk that was pushing every war he could

1231
01:30:24.039 --> 01:30:29.159
while not going anywhere near any battlefield
himself. And uh they actually clashed crimes

1232
01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:31.720
and cover ups. I talked about
an early clash they had. And uh

1233
01:30:32.800 --> 01:30:39.520
so later he drew the iro of
FDR and Winston Churchhill and everyone else.

1234
01:30:39.560 --> 01:30:43.560
I mean they all. JFK's father
had all the right enemies. And he

1235
01:30:43.680 --> 01:30:46.880
made he made a beautiful anti war
speech when he was at the America First

1236
01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:51.279
Committee, as so many other great
Americans were of that day before Pearl Harbor,

1237
01:30:53.079 --> 01:30:55.720
when he he said, I would
like the parents of the world to

1238
01:30:55.800 --> 01:31:00.520
consider and and just come up with
one good reason for your child to go

1239
01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:03.800
die in a war. And I
thought. I thought that was that's just

1240
01:31:04.680 --> 01:31:10.520
that really distills it down to what
it is. And uh so I have

1241
01:31:10.640 --> 01:31:13.680
great admiration for him. He came
from good stock. You mentioned we talked

1242
01:31:13.680 --> 01:31:16.159
about the notes that weren't Federal Reserve
notes. Again, behind the scenes,

1243
01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:19.680
Joe Kennedy Senior was one of the
earliest critics of the Federal Reserve. He

1244
01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:23.520
knew all about that. I can't
believe when when they were eating dinner,

1245
01:31:23.640 --> 01:31:27.319
and we've heard all the tales about
the Kennedy's how they discussed current events and

1246
01:31:27.960 --> 01:31:30.800
all this stuff, and they would
they would they would come up with their

1247
01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:33.239
socialist views that they were learning in
school, and the old man would counter

1248
01:31:33.359 --> 01:31:36.840
them with capitalism and so forth.
I can't believe they didn't discuss the Federal

1249
01:31:36.880 --> 01:31:41.479
Reserve. So I'm pretty sure they
were well steeped in that. And so

1250
01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:44.960
I don't think is that why you
know JFK did what he did with the

1251
01:31:45.000 --> 01:31:46.760
silver certificates, which, as you
pointed out, is what Lincoln did,

1252
01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:50.159
and you know how I feel about
Lincoln. But he did print the greenbacks.

1253
01:31:50.199 --> 01:31:57.640
And I've tried for years to to
to verify the quote that that conspiracy

1254
01:31:57.680 --> 01:32:01.880
people from a London newspaper, but
it's never specific enough. There's no exact

1255
01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:04.079
date, so I don't know if
they said it or up. But it's

1256
01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:08.880
something like if this, if this
terrible policy which has occurred, you know,

1257
01:32:09.319 --> 01:32:12.279
is allowed to transpire, this will
be the collapse of everything or something.

1258
01:32:12.359 --> 01:32:15.039
It's a very dire quote that basically
says we have to assassinate him.

1259
01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:18.199
But I don't know. Again,
you know, I want to source things,

1260
01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:21.600
and so I don't know if that
really is a legitimate quote or some

1261
01:32:21.880 --> 01:32:26.239
you know, some conspiracy guy made
it up and everybody cause that happened sometimes.

1262
01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:30.279
But uh, there's no denial that
that what what JFK did was doing

1263
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:33.720
at the time, assessed as he
had, he had lots of people that

1264
01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:36.600
were mad at him, lots of
powerful figures. So that's why there's so

1265
01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:41.479
many, you know, if this
was an Agatha Christie murder mystery, there's

1266
01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:45.359
so many legitimate suspects. But as
you know, I believe there's a group

1267
01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:47.079
above it all and ILLUMINAI whatever you
want to call it, and I think

1268
01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:51.960
these this is where the decision was
made. I believe. Well, I

1269
01:32:53.079 --> 01:32:57.800
want to go back to the New
Orleans connection and then your of course your

1270
01:32:57.880 --> 01:33:00.279
new book. I want to put
it up on the screen too, don

1271
01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:06.520
so appare real quickly. I go
back to the phone call to Dean Andrews

1272
01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:13.359
Junior on was it being November twenty
second, nineteen sixty three, just after

1273
01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:18.319
the assassination. Now, you referenced
earlier in the conversation that he had actually

1274
01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:26.720
been an attorney for Oswald before to
work on his honorable discharge in some of

1275
01:33:26.760 --> 01:33:31.119
his military and his citizenship and what
Marina Oswald? Right, Yeah, yeah,

1276
01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:33.159
he had, he had been.
He'd done some little work and he,

1277
01:33:33.920 --> 01:33:36.920
as he pointed out many times,
Oswald still owed him twenty five bucks,

1278
01:33:38.520 --> 01:33:42.279
so he was a little irate about
that. But yeah, he had,

1279
01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:45.800
he had done something. And again
I just look at that skeptically because

1280
01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:48.319
I think I don't think it's an
accident that he because he again he was

1281
01:33:48.439 --> 01:33:51.840
connected to those same people in New
Orleans, So I don't think it's any

1282
01:33:51.920 --> 01:33:57.439
accident that they came into each other's
orbit. For all I know, Oswald

1283
01:33:57.520 --> 01:34:00.079
is part of his assignment. Might
have been told, Hey, the good

1284
01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:02.760
of this guy. He's one of
our guys. You know, he'll he'll

1285
01:34:02.840 --> 01:34:06.079
you know, just and you know, have him say you want some help

1286
01:34:06.119 --> 01:34:11.359
on the inp or something, because
again I think everything about Oswald was orchestrated.

1287
01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:14.640
So the fact that he was able
to at the heart to begin,

1288
01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:16.439
you know, the middle of the
Cold War, that he was able to

1289
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:21.960
come back in without being even debriefed
rather by the CIA or anything at the

1290
01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:26.439
height of the Cold War, that
he did have a Russian bride, I

1291
01:34:26.520 --> 01:34:32.319
think these things are all certainly suspicious. And so I think at this point

1292
01:34:32.399 --> 01:34:35.119
everything, all his moves made,
been orchestrated. So I think he was

1293
01:34:35.199 --> 01:34:40.279
probably told go to this guy.
What Dean Andrews Junior was told, I

1294
01:34:40.279 --> 01:34:43.840
don't know, but he was.
He had lots of interesting connections himself,

1295
01:34:43.920 --> 01:34:47.600
so he may have just maybe he
was doing something again for some intelligence agey

1296
01:34:47.680 --> 01:34:50.840
as well. I think Dean the
third has said that he thought he was

1297
01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:55.880
an asset rather than agent or something, but he thought his father had some

1298
01:34:55.960 --> 01:35:03.840
connection. So he's called h Day
of the assassination by clay Shaw Clay Yeah,

1299
01:35:04.079 --> 01:35:10.319
which is so he does he identify
who this is who he's talking to

1300
01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:15.159
early on? He does he make
the connection? Well, he knows he

1301
01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:17.560
said Bertrand had sent him people before. And again maybe this is part of

1302
01:35:17.600 --> 01:35:21.680
the thing. He's sending these people
to Dean Andrews for a reason. But

1303
01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:27.760
he he started backtracking, and if
people can look at his Warren Commission testimony,

1304
01:35:27.800 --> 01:35:30.279
and we put it as an appendix. We have several appendencies in the

1305
01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:32.439
book, and one of them is
Dean Andrews Warren Commission Testimonies. You have

1306
01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:35.079
to read it, because I mean, I've read these, you know,

1307
01:35:35.199 --> 01:35:41.000
these twenty six volumes. Very few
of us have. But they're mostly really

1308
01:35:41.079 --> 01:35:45.680
boring, and especially the testimony is
really boring for the most part. Dean

1309
01:35:45.760 --> 01:35:50.920
Andrews Junior, his testimony is the
Beatles of the Warren Commission testimony. It's

1310
01:35:51.239 --> 01:35:56.039
his number one. There's no question. It's the most interesting. You'd be

1311
01:35:56.079 --> 01:35:59.239
fascinated, but kind of the beat
nick lingo. But in it he's,

1312
01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:01.359
you know, he basically brings up
one of the things I want to do

1313
01:36:01.439 --> 01:36:03.880
is find out the real person who
killed the president. You can see like

1314
01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:08.680
the Warrant Commission Council saying what you
know, you don't think it was Oswald

1315
01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:12.199
and I know good and well it
wasn't Oswald. And then he talks about

1316
01:36:12.239 --> 01:36:15.399
how he's the first one to bring
up the Maggie's drawers. Thing about that

1317
01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:18.439
Oswald you know, got Maggie's drawers
when he was shooting at that he was

1318
01:36:18.479 --> 01:36:24.920
that bad of a shot. And
he talked about Bertrand and so the other

1319
01:36:24.960 --> 01:36:29.079
things. I want to find out
who Bertrand is. And then later when

1320
01:36:29.119 --> 01:36:30.840
he started getting it, you know, probably getting threats, but certainly when

1321
01:36:30.840 --> 01:36:34.000
he started seeing people dying, other
people dying, he started backtracking. And

1322
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:40.039
you know, he described Bertrand like
Shaw early on tall and said, but

1323
01:36:40.119 --> 01:36:43.279
then later he claimed he was shorter
and all this stuff. So he he

1324
01:36:43.640 --> 01:36:46.079
he became ridiculous in terms of it. We have a lot of his his

1325
01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:51.119
fluctuating testimony in the book. He
was frankly became a ridiculous witness, but

1326
01:36:51.399 --> 01:36:57.640
he as long as he was willing
to say something that discredited Garrison. NBC

1327
01:36:57.800 --> 01:37:02.760
News later used him for their attack
piece on Garrison, which was was basically

1328
01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:06.319
run by a guy named Walter Sheridan
who had been an assistant to RFK in

1329
01:37:06.399 --> 01:37:10.399
the Justice Department. And I know
kind of a plant he was, but

1330
01:37:10.479 --> 01:37:13.800
it certainly sounds like you know,
they made. We recently found that Mark

1331
01:37:13.880 --> 01:37:16.600
Meadows, for instance, was a
plant inside Trump's white House an he was

1332
01:37:16.600 --> 01:37:21.119
an undercover informant working as the chief
of staff of Trump. So this guy

1333
01:37:21.199 --> 01:37:27.239
could have easily have been a plant
back in nineteen sixties, in the early

1334
01:37:27.359 --> 01:37:30.720
nineteen sixties working at bar Rfk's Justice
depart because he became a reporter for NBC

1335
01:37:30.840 --> 01:37:33.840
News just for that one story.
As far as I know, Walter Sheridan's

1336
01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:40.640
investigative journalist career began and ended with
Garrison's investigation. He was front and center

1337
01:37:40.680 --> 01:37:43.680
there and he was tape recorded,
and I don't know why nothing happened to

1338
01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:47.600
him trying to bribe witness Perry Raymond
Russo, who's a taxi cab driver who

1339
01:37:47.680 --> 01:37:50.960
later eventually when they killed all his
other witnesses, became one of Garrison's the

1340
01:37:50.960 --> 01:37:56.119
most important witnesses, and he was
ridiculed because he had some issues. He

1341
01:37:56.199 --> 01:38:01.439
hated the Kennedy's by the way,
but he basically recorded Sheridan saying, you

1342
01:38:01.479 --> 01:38:03.760
know, hey, we'll move you
out to California. We'll set you up,

1343
01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:05.680
and all I mean basically, you
know, tell him, we'll set

1344
01:38:05.720 --> 01:38:09.680
you up if you lie for us
and if you say what we wants you

1345
01:38:09.720 --> 01:38:15.880
to say. So this was Dean
Andrews Junior is caught in the midst of

1346
01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:17.680
all this, and you have to
wonder what, you know, what he

1347
01:38:17.800 --> 01:38:21.479
was thinking, and so he was
naturally terrified because he saw the other people

1348
01:38:21.640 --> 01:38:25.359
dying. As he said, you
know, I like to breathe in his

1349
01:38:25.439 --> 01:38:28.960
colorful language, and we have some
quotes from him in there. He's just

1350
01:38:29.079 --> 01:38:32.680
he's just interesting to hear. And
his son, Dean the Third has has

1351
01:38:32.840 --> 01:38:35.520
a little of that too, you
know, not quite, but you can

1352
01:38:35.560 --> 01:38:40.119
see in his interview he kind of
he's very colorful about describing things. You

1353
01:38:40.199 --> 01:38:43.760
know, he'll he'll just kind of
say things in a unique way. That's

1354
01:38:43.760 --> 01:38:48.880
why I've always loved talking to him. But I think that Dean Andrews Jr.

1355
01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:55.880
Was a pivotal figure here because without
without Garrison knowing that, because Garrison

1356
01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:59.800
knew Dean Andrews as his son.
Dean Third said, you know, Garrison

1357
01:38:59.840 --> 01:39:01.640
will call his house regularly and answered
home, O young Dean, you know,

1358
01:39:01.720 --> 01:39:04.279
and he'd answered the phone, and
he used to say it at the

1359
01:39:04.319 --> 01:39:11.119
New Orleans Athletic Club and so forth
together. And so I think that when

1360
01:39:11.399 --> 01:39:15.680
when Garrison read his because he started
reading at the behest of Russell Long,

1361
01:39:15.760 --> 01:39:18.399
you know, he was Long's son
who was the first one who told him,

1362
01:39:18.399 --> 01:39:21.039
hey, not right about the Warren
commissions. He was played by Walter

1363
01:39:21.159 --> 01:39:28.760
math Allen and and all Besudd's JFK
very memorably. And once he started reading

1364
01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:31.239
the testimony, what really jumped out
at him was Dean Andrews testimony because he

1365
01:39:31.319 --> 01:39:34.800
knew Dean he was a friend of
his, and when he saw what he

1366
01:39:34.920 --> 01:39:36.880
was saying, Hey, I want
to find out who the real guy that

1367
01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:41.159
killed the president. I know it
wasn't Oswald. And especially when he talked

1368
01:39:41.159 --> 01:39:45.239
about that phone call, because again
Garrison found out about this stuff, you

1369
01:39:45.319 --> 01:39:48.119
know, years later. He was
initially interested briefly because of David Ferry,

1370
01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:54.039
who had been curious figure in New
Orleans, and he did question him early

1371
01:39:54.119 --> 01:39:57.279
on the assassination, but he kind
of dropped it for a while. And

1372
01:39:57.399 --> 01:40:00.920
then it was that conversation with Russell
Long, and uh then when he started

1373
01:40:00.960 --> 01:40:04.560
reading the testimony, Dean Andrews testimony
jumped right. And that's why you know

1374
01:40:04.640 --> 01:40:10.159
the title of the book comes from
that that memorable lunch en counter, which

1375
01:40:10.199 --> 01:40:12.640
I don't know that he actually said, pipe the bimbo on Red and young

1376
01:40:12.720 --> 01:40:15.159
Dean said he never heard his father
say that, but he said so many

1377
01:40:15.239 --> 01:40:19.960
things that may have been just colorful
language that that Oliver Stone made up.

1378
01:40:20.039 --> 01:40:25.640
But regardless that that lunch was about
that where Dean is discovering, hey,

1379
01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:30.119
you know what I mean, Uh, Garrison is discovering, hey, you

1380
01:40:30.159 --> 01:40:31.000
know what what is? What's up
with this? You know what are you

1381
01:40:31.079 --> 01:40:34.680
talking about here? And you can
see in that conversation, you know,

1382
01:40:35.600 --> 01:40:40.640
you know that that he's already scared
and he's telling Jimbo, they can you

1383
01:40:40.720 --> 01:40:43.039
know, they can get you like
squash you like a bug and all that

1384
01:40:43.119 --> 01:40:46.960
stuff. So he's really a figure
that has not been examined. I don't

1385
01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:50.119
think has scrutinized the way he should. I mean, he's not He wasn't

1386
01:40:50.319 --> 01:40:54.119
you know, he wasn't a real
conspirator, but he was summoning in that

1387
01:40:54.279 --> 01:40:59.000
was used and manipulated like Oswald was
or a lesser wrong. But and the

1388
01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:02.079
book also I think shows what happens
to people that are involved, as you

1389
01:41:02.199 --> 01:41:06.000
see what happened through Dean the third
and I we had his mother, who's

1390
01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:10.680
still alive. He's ninety five years
old and lives in New Orleans. Still

1391
01:41:11.199 --> 01:41:14.359
we had her over our house for
dinner years ago, a couple of maybe

1392
01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:17.359
twenty years ago or so, and
it his first time she had really agreed

1393
01:41:17.359 --> 01:41:21.640
to talk about it to anyone,
And I think maybe I halfway convinced her

1394
01:41:21.640 --> 01:41:27.560
because her basically at philosophy was that
her husband's crazy. He's nuts, and

1395
01:41:27.680 --> 01:41:30.079
he did kind of go crazy after
the assassination. But from their perspective,

1396
01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:33.520
do you see, this is a
very respectable family with the guy was Dean

1397
01:41:33.960 --> 01:41:38.920
Junior, was the president of the
New Orleans Jazz Festival. He knew a

1398
01:41:38.960 --> 01:41:42.319
lot of the prominent people he was. They were celebrated in at the High

1399
01:41:42.359 --> 01:41:45.319
Society of New Orleans, had a
good life. Dean the third was was

1400
01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:50.720
bound for the same career. He
was in law school and all that was

1401
01:41:50.800 --> 01:41:55.600
shattered Dean just recently a couple of
months ago. Lot, you know,

1402
01:41:55.680 --> 01:42:00.279
we commiserated because my brother was his
best friend and I lost him and he

1403
01:42:00.920 --> 01:42:04.239
his brother, his younger brother was
probably the biggest victim of his father being

1404
01:42:04.279 --> 01:42:09.920
involved in this because he just turned
to drugs and after he just died a

1405
01:42:09.960 --> 01:42:13.319
couple of months ago, but it
was after a lifetime of struggling with drug

1406
01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:16.600
addiction. So but all this,
you know, if Dean hadn't gotten that

1407
01:42:16.640 --> 01:42:21.840
phone call in the hospital, probably
as he said, you know, i'd

1408
01:42:21.880 --> 01:42:24.760
have a lot of money now,
And he said, he's you know,

1409
01:42:24.840 --> 01:42:28.840
I go over and see him and
he's living in Section eight housing. He's

1410
01:42:28.880 --> 01:42:30.359
not doing well. He's confined to
a wheelchair. I go, we go

1411
01:42:30.399 --> 01:42:34.960
over and take him out to lunch
at the Chili's. It's right next to

1412
01:42:35.039 --> 01:42:38.039
him there, and he thinks that's
a big deal because he doesn't get to

1413
01:42:38.079 --> 01:42:41.119
go out other than that. But
his life would have been way different.

1414
01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:43.680
I think he you know, he
would have been attorney, he would have

1415
01:42:43.680 --> 01:42:45.640
been financially said. He probably would
have never met my brother, so I

1416
01:42:45.680 --> 01:42:49.239
would have never known him. But
it's it's just, you know, it

1417
01:42:49.319 --> 01:42:53.199
shows in microcosm, and that that's
why his wife, I'm sure, resents

1418
01:42:53.239 --> 01:42:57.079
it because it took something really good
away from her. You know, she

1419
01:42:57.239 --> 01:43:00.600
was living in that orbit and joining
the good life, and instead they became,

1420
01:43:00.439 --> 01:43:05.119
you know, part of this the
JFK assassination. Quagmire and her husband

1421
01:43:05.199 --> 01:43:10.239
became discredited and ridiculed by everyone.
So it's a it's a character study and

1422
01:43:10.319 --> 01:43:15.640
what can happen from people that just
are even associated with these events in The

1423
01:43:15.119 --> 01:43:21.399
New New Orleans connection itself is so
intriguing to me because that that centers around

1424
01:43:21.439 --> 01:43:27.560
Garrison. It's almost like ta made
to be investigated. It's all being done

1425
01:43:27.680 --> 01:43:30.720
right there. Yeah, and then
you've got you've got intelligence, and you

1426
01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:35.920
got the FBI. There's that famous
scene in JFK where Garrison, you know,

1427
01:43:36.039 --> 01:43:40.960
Kevin Costner's look at all the buildings, like well, there's where Oswald

1428
01:43:41.039 --> 01:43:44.279
stayed, there's the apartment where Oswald
stadium and there, and then there's Guy

1429
01:43:44.399 --> 01:43:47.319
Banister's office right underneath that with the
FBI, and across the O and I

1430
01:43:47.439 --> 01:43:50.520
it's the Office of Naval Intelligence.
And then there's the CIA back in the

1431
01:43:50.920 --> 01:43:57.920
So he's like in November nineteen sixty
three or it was. So you know,

1432
01:43:57.960 --> 01:44:03.039
it's funny. Court historys are hilarious
to me now like they don't.

1433
01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:08.439
It has to be on purpose because
you're not going to be invited to the

1434
01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:13.960
cocktail parties, you're not going to
be celebrated if you start making actual connections

1435
01:44:14.079 --> 01:44:17.399
of dots. But it's so overwhelming. I know you've been doing this your

1436
01:44:17.560 --> 01:44:23.239
your entire life. You've been researching
JFK. A lot of people that don't

1437
01:44:23.279 --> 01:44:26.079
know you like if you read about
Don Folks, it's amazing, like he

1438
01:44:26.640 --> 01:44:30.680
he was part of Mark Lane's investigation
in the early nineteen seventies. You actually

1439
01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:36.479
went and saw the the and got
to hold the monloqu Carcanoll rifle at the

1440
01:44:36.720 --> 01:44:42.600
SMITHSONI I mean at nineteen years old. So Don's been doing this a long

1441
01:44:42.760 --> 01:44:45.600
time. Like the'se a legit researcher, historian. He wrote the book Hidden

1442
01:44:45.680 --> 01:44:47.800
History. It's some raids and I
know him. I read his book.

1443
01:44:48.000 --> 01:44:53.880
And anyway, you look at this
and it's just so overwhelming, Like look

1444
01:44:53.880 --> 01:44:59.560
at the intricacies of what we just
discussed in the last forty minutes about Dean

1445
01:44:59.600 --> 01:45:04.319
andrews Uh, Clay Shaw, Clay
Burch, Jim Garrison. It's not for

1446
01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:10.039
nothing right that this they weren't again, I wonder if they were surprised.

1447
01:45:11.279 --> 01:45:15.079
Probably were, because these these things
are probably decompartmentalized in so many ways.

1448
01:45:15.119 --> 01:45:19.800
He really can't see who's doing what. I wonder if they were surprised it

1449
01:45:19.960 --> 01:45:24.399
was Oswald and that's why they were
like knee jerk, like get him an

1450
01:45:24.399 --> 01:45:27.239
attorney so we can, you know, because that would be a way to

1451
01:45:27.319 --> 01:45:31.359
contain spillover, Like if you want
to you want to put somebody around him

1452
01:45:31.720 --> 01:45:38.520
that would stop any kind of like
interrogation or there's something. So we're talking

1453
01:45:38.640 --> 01:45:43.319
like on that. Have you been
able to run a timeline on when he

1454
01:45:43.439 --> 01:45:45.760
got that phone call? And like, what, yeah, it was?

1455
01:45:45.880 --> 01:45:51.319
It was again I think again because
if Dean's recollections are Dean the Junior's recollections

1456
01:45:51.359 --> 01:45:54.520
were kind of hazy, and it
were also in the book. This is

1457
01:45:54.520 --> 01:45:58.560
the first time Dean the Third reveals
suspicious things that were happening to his father

1458
01:45:58.720 --> 01:46:00.760
in the hospital. You know,
I don't put a spoiler, but it's

1459
01:46:00.840 --> 01:46:04.720
never been out there by any researcher, and it's a reason to wonder exactly

1460
01:46:04.800 --> 01:46:09.000
what was going on with him in
the hospital. So he's a little hazy

1461
01:46:09.079 --> 01:46:11.479
on it, but I think it
was, you know, maybe around dinner

1462
01:46:11.560 --> 01:46:15.920
time something like that that he received
the call. And of course later what

1463
01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:18.319
what happened is they would try to
blame the drugs he was on and that

1464
01:46:18.520 --> 01:46:21.640
he had imagined it hallucinated it.
And then he would later say, yeah,

1465
01:46:21.640 --> 01:46:24.840
I guess I must, you know, because again he was saying whatever

1466
01:46:24.880 --> 01:46:28.760
they wanted him to say at that
point because he was trying to stay alive.

1467
01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:31.680
But you're right. I most researchers
don't question why he got that call

1468
01:46:32.520 --> 01:46:35.079
because on the surface of it,
it makes no sense because if you have

1469
01:46:35.439 --> 01:46:40.359
a conspiracy and they're going to kill, they know they're going to eliminate the

1470
01:46:40.439 --> 01:46:43.960
suspect, and why are they worried
about getting an attorney. Because the subject

1471
01:46:44.039 --> 01:46:46.399
here is that Oswall was asking for
an attorney constantly. That's one thing he

1472
01:46:46.479 --> 01:46:49.439
was saying in public, I do
request someone to come forward and give me

1473
01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:54.319
legal assistance. And but you have
the American Bar Association. This is how

1474
01:46:54.359 --> 01:46:56.720
big the cover up. When and
I talked about this and hid the history,

1475
01:46:57.239 --> 01:47:00.920
they sent a representative to meet with
him, and supposedly the representative now

1476
01:47:00.279 --> 01:47:04.119
I'm fine, And every every public
chance he got, he said I need

1477
01:47:04.159 --> 01:47:08.039
a lawyer. So that had to
be a lie. So the American Bar

1478
01:47:08.079 --> 01:47:11.760
Association is involved in this, the
a c LU, these people are involved

1479
01:47:11.760 --> 01:47:14.039
in it because they're saying, ah, he really didn't want a lawyer.

1480
01:47:14.079 --> 01:47:17.199
He just for some reason, he's
saying it publicly. But so if you

1481
01:47:17.239 --> 01:47:20.520
were assuming that all these people except
Shaw, again that Bertran is the one

1482
01:47:20.560 --> 01:47:25.359
who made the call. So I
can only speculate but what were the people

1483
01:47:25.600 --> 01:47:29.640
at the top telling Shaw to do
this, telling Burton to do this?

1484
01:47:29.720 --> 01:47:31.000
Hey, you know, let's let's
get Dean Andrews over there, and and

1485
01:47:31.239 --> 01:47:35.399
uh and and and maybe you know, I don't think Shaw knew everything because

1486
01:47:35.640 --> 01:47:39.640
later we talk in the book about
the very curious way Clay Shaw died,

1487
01:47:40.279 --> 01:47:42.760
you know, long after his trial, and you talked about when a neighbor

1488
01:47:42.840 --> 01:47:46.079
saw an ambulance pull up to his
house and take a body out and go

1489
01:47:46.159 --> 01:47:48.800
inside the house. I mean,
that's you know what guy these people played

1490
01:47:48.840 --> 01:47:51.840
for real? Uh, that's what
happened to Clay Shaw. So he wasn't

1491
01:47:51.880 --> 01:47:59.159
around that long to question either.
But so these we can really only speculate

1492
01:47:59.159 --> 01:48:00.840
it. But I agree. I
mean, the phone call doesn't make a

1493
01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:05.119
whole lot of sense to me either, but it obviously it happened for whatever

1494
01:48:05.199 --> 01:48:09.520
reason. And it's the same thing
with Oswald's arrest. In the theater.

1495
01:48:09.520 --> 01:48:12.119
There's so many questions about that.
You have witnesses that saw in a wret

1496
01:48:12.279 --> 01:48:15.880
somebody being taken out of the back
while he was going out of the front.

1497
01:48:15.920 --> 01:48:18.239
There was so many things, questions
about who was in the theater and

1498
01:48:18.439 --> 01:48:24.359
why, you know, you had
really big shots, high ranking police officials

1499
01:48:24.439 --> 01:48:28.119
and federal agents that were at the
scene of that theater to go after someone

1500
01:48:28.159 --> 01:48:30.960
who would supposedly snuck into a theater
without paying for a ticket. At the

1501
01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:33.680
time, the president had just been
assassinated. And of course the person,

1502
01:48:34.479 --> 01:48:39.319
the clerk, the cashier, said
no, she didn't see anybody sneaking with

1503
01:48:39.359 --> 01:48:41.800
that cash. But it didn't matter, you know, That's what he did.

1504
01:48:41.920 --> 01:48:45.560
So lots about this to question,
and this is the minutia that you

1505
01:48:45.600 --> 01:48:47.279
know has taken over my life for
a long time, where I talk about

1506
01:48:47.279 --> 01:48:53.079
all these things. We don't have
much time left, but I wanted to

1507
01:48:53.119 --> 01:48:59.680
tell you a story about jfk assassination, just my own personal history with it.

1508
01:48:59.800 --> 01:49:03.199
I had a good friend of mine. I ran for Congress in twenty

1509
01:49:03.279 --> 01:49:10.079
thirteen, twenty fourteen, against the
oldest living member of Congress to ever cast

1510
01:49:10.119 --> 01:49:12.800
a vote. It was the last
World War Two veteran in Congress. I

1511
01:49:12.800 --> 01:49:15.479
didn't think he was going to run
again, but he was my congressman from

1512
01:49:15.520 --> 01:49:19.039
the time I was born, like
he just goten elected. His name was

1513
01:49:19.119 --> 01:49:24.000
Ralph Hall, and we became very
very good friends. I actually stood in

1514
01:49:24.119 --> 01:49:27.720
for him and spoke for him and
on his last campaign and I ran his

1515
01:49:27.800 --> 01:49:30.399
Twitter. He liked having me around
because I knew all this history. You

1516
01:49:30.399 --> 01:49:33.439
know, It's like he's talking to
somebody who all these players and different figures.

1517
01:49:33.479 --> 01:49:39.279
And I never asked him where he
was on November twenty second, nineteen

1518
01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:43.920
sixty three, until just shortly before
he died. And we had a lot

1519
01:49:43.960 --> 01:49:47.119
of history conversations. And I was
sitting there with him and he had a

1520
01:49:47.199 --> 01:49:49.439
fire going, and I said,
I said, hey, sir, I

1521
01:49:49.520 --> 01:49:54.239
never did ask you. Because he
was state senator in the in the early

1522
01:49:54.359 --> 01:49:58.680
nineteen sixties. He was friends with
Lyndon Johnson. You know that story about

1523
01:49:58.720 --> 01:50:02.520
Lyndon Johnson saying, uh, you
know, get that last bit of names

1524
01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:06.159
off that row in the cemetery because
they deserve to vote too. He told

1525
01:50:06.239 --> 01:50:09.960
Ralph to do that. I mean, that was that. That was Ralph

1526
01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:14.000
told that, kidding you said,
those people deserve the vote too. And

1527
01:50:14.199 --> 01:50:16.319
so you know, I got a
great picture of him and LBJ in the

1528
01:50:16.359 --> 01:50:18.960
Oval office. And Ralph was a
tall guy. He was a pilot in

1529
01:50:19.039 --> 01:50:24.119
World War Two. I flew in
the Pacific, and uh, you he

1530
01:50:24.239 --> 01:50:27.960
just got he just standed, you
know, eyed eye with with with L

1531
01:50:28.039 --> 01:50:29.760
B J. It's a great picture. I need to hang it up in

1532
01:50:29.840 --> 01:50:34.039
my office. But I asked Ralph, I said, uh, where were

1533
01:50:34.119 --> 01:50:38.119
you? And he said, well, I was getting ready for dinner.

1534
01:50:38.600 --> 01:50:41.760
He's like, I was about to
leave. We're headed to Austin, and

1535
01:50:42.039 --> 01:50:45.800
uh. He was very good friends
with John Connelly, so they were headed

1536
01:50:45.880 --> 01:50:49.039
to where JFK was supposed to go. He was actually on his way to

1537
01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:53.520
Austin for a dinner that night.
Do you do you did you ever piece

1538
01:50:53.640 --> 01:50:57.800
that together? At where? Where
was he headed? From Dallas? Where

1539
01:50:57.800 --> 01:51:00.800
who was headed? Oh? Yeah? He was supposed to make a speech

1540
01:51:00.840 --> 01:51:04.039
at the trademark, the Dallas trademark, which is ironic because klay Shaw,

1541
01:51:04.079 --> 01:51:06.760
of course was ahead of the International
Trademark in New Orleans. So I don't

1542
01:51:06.760 --> 01:51:11.960
know that's that's a strange coincidence.
You know, that's where he's supposed to

1543
01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:14.479
speak. Yeah, well, I
thought it was interesting he was supposed to

1544
01:51:14.720 --> 01:51:17.079
and then he was going to later
I think later it was dinner that night

1545
01:51:17.159 --> 01:51:20.279
in Austin. I think with the
with the governor, because he's with John

1546
01:51:20.319 --> 01:51:24.840
Connolly at least that Yeah, that's
the way Ralph told it. So I

1547
01:51:24.960 --> 01:51:27.760
just thought that was interesting like that
he was invited to the dinner that never

1548
01:51:28.039 --> 01:51:33.399
was Yeah. Later, you know, he Ralph would he collected all kinds

1549
01:51:33.439 --> 01:51:36.039
of memorabilia and he was just you
know, he owned banks and stuff.

1550
01:51:36.039 --> 01:51:40.880
He was an old school guy,
but he was tied in very well.

1551
01:51:40.960 --> 01:51:45.000
And he would tell me stories about
uh and Marina Oz while lived in the

1552
01:51:45.079 --> 01:51:47.239
town I grew up in. Uh. She actually had a house in Rockwall,

1553
01:51:47.319 --> 01:51:54.640
Texas. And I want to say
they had memorabilia. It came down

1554
01:51:54.720 --> 01:51:59.479
to, I think Ralph was going
to buy the pistol that Jack Ruby used

1555
01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:04.079
and uh and he was going to
buy that him and Mickey Mantle. You

1556
01:52:04.199 --> 01:52:11.159
tell me this story, man,
and uh Uh anyway, it was a

1557
01:52:11.199 --> 01:52:13.760
great It was a great story.
But his wife told him, uh not

1558
01:52:13.920 --> 01:52:15.960
to buy that pistol. She said, we don't profit off other people's misery.

1559
01:52:16.640 --> 01:52:21.560
So he he had like these kind
of swirling connections to the people in

1560
01:52:21.640 --> 01:52:27.119
the jfk assassination, like like John
Connolly, and he would tell me stories

1561
01:52:27.159 --> 01:52:30.159
about how uh, you know,
every election cycle, John Connelly put that

1562
01:52:30.359 --> 01:52:34.119
leather that brace back on his wrist
and to say, you know, I

1563
01:52:34.239 --> 01:52:38.479
was in the car with Kennedy,
you know, and course so much there.

1564
01:52:38.640 --> 01:52:45.479
The assassination of JFK and the people
and the figures around it have still

1565
01:52:45.520 --> 01:52:49.319
have massive reverberating effects in our history
today. It's not it's not a cold

1566
01:52:49.439 --> 01:52:53.159
case that doesn't matter, folks.
I mean, it really is. And

1567
01:52:53.279 --> 01:52:57.399
you talk about in Hidden History,
you call it the mother of all conspiracies

1568
01:52:58.600 --> 01:53:00.880
in our modern era. I think
you're I mean, I think you're right.

1569
01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:03.560
Don I mean, it's it is, the yeah nucleus, for sure,

1570
01:53:04.279 --> 01:53:06.399
it is. I mean, there's
so many and there's so many people

1571
01:53:06.439 --> 01:53:10.680
that are willing to can believe me, I know from the JFK research.

1572
01:53:10.720 --> 01:53:13.439
I mean, that's why I'm not
more welcome there because I talk about all

1573
01:53:13.479 --> 01:53:17.600
these other things, and so many
of them are willing to consider the FBI

1574
01:53:17.640 --> 01:53:21.920
and the CIA and everybody covering up
in this, and witnesses being silenced all

1575
01:53:21.960 --> 01:53:27.000
that in these JFK assassination. But
they don't take it any farther than that,

1576
01:53:27.039 --> 01:53:29.640
and they think it's an isolated happened
at a vacuum, and obviously it

1577
01:53:29.720 --> 01:53:32.199
didn't. And that's why, you
know, although I spent some the time

1578
01:53:32.239 --> 01:53:38.199
as a teenager being you know,
obsessed, you know, the JFK assassination,

1579
01:53:38.279 --> 01:53:41.479
and this is always my wheelhouse issue. It led me down these other

1580
01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:44.199
rabbit holes and so, you know, all the other issues that we talk

1581
01:53:44.239 --> 01:53:47.159
about, but it all started with
JFK. And I think for my generation

1582
01:53:48.119 --> 01:53:51.800
JFK assassination. I was a very
little kid when it happened. But for

1583
01:53:51.920 --> 01:53:57.760
my generation, the JFK assassination was
a seminal event, as for later millennials

1584
01:53:57.840 --> 01:54:01.359
or whatever the nine to eleven was. But so it's kind of like that

1585
01:54:01.479 --> 01:54:04.319
was our nine to eleven. But
this was something that still I go back

1586
01:54:04.319 --> 01:54:08.319
to it, and I think it's
crucial to understand what happened because it has

1587
01:54:08.399 --> 01:54:12.239
ties to everything else. As I
pointed out, if JFK hadn't been assassinated,

1588
01:54:12.399 --> 01:54:15.920
RFK never would have been I don't
think chap Equitic would happen, because

1589
01:54:15.920 --> 01:54:20.119
I think that was Teddy's political assassination. And certainly the JFK junior playing crash,

1590
01:54:20.159 --> 01:54:24.399
which I've written about critically about,
I think was another Kennedy assassination.

1591
01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:29.039
That wouldn't have happened either, and
the attacks on RFK Junior wouldn't be what

1592
01:54:29.159 --> 01:54:30.920
they are. I don't think if
it hadn't been for this again, this

1593
01:54:31.039 --> 01:54:33.600
history which goes back to the old
man. That's why I keep talking about

1594
01:54:33.680 --> 01:54:38.520
Joe Kennedy Senior. He lost to
his first son, Joe Kennedy Junior,

1595
01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:44.159
who there's some suspicions about that playing
crash as well. And Joe Kennedy Senior

1596
01:54:44.319 --> 01:54:48.479
was hated by the establishment, so
I don't think it's any any surprise that

1597
01:54:48.680 --> 01:54:51.479
his son who got in the White
House or whatever reason. People always ask,

1598
01:54:51.560 --> 01:54:54.560
well, why do you think they
let Kennedy in? I have no

1599
01:54:54.680 --> 01:54:57.239
idea. I don't know. Maybe
you have other people that think they wanted

1600
01:54:57.239 --> 01:54:59.960
to create a martyr, they wanted
all this, this was all orchestrated.

1601
01:55:00.119 --> 01:55:02.479
I have no idea, but uh, all you can do is look at

1602
01:55:02.520 --> 01:55:05.079
what happens to the Kennedy's. That's
why I continue to defend them. You

1603
01:55:05.119 --> 01:55:09.399
know, people call me a Kennedy
fan boy, and I am because they

1604
01:55:09.479 --> 01:55:12.720
keep knocking them off. You know, I mean, it's like to me,

1605
01:55:12.840 --> 01:55:15.279
it's to me, it's it's it's
unfortunately speaks well with people if they

1606
01:55:15.319 --> 01:55:19.279
continue to get knocked off by this
uh this, uh, these corrupt tyrants

1607
01:55:19.319 --> 01:55:25.279
that run us, well, it's
a it's a sad metric in American politics.

1608
01:55:25.359 --> 01:55:28.199
But uh, it's like, well, did anybody try to kill you?

1609
01:55:29.720 --> 01:55:32.600
You know, are you effective?
Have you been assassinated? That's yeah.

1610
01:55:32.960 --> 01:55:36.119
All people have told me that myself
is like, you know, well,

1611
01:55:36.199 --> 01:55:38.920
yeah, hock, come, they
haven't tried to kill you. So

1612
01:55:39.079 --> 01:55:41.760
I mean maybe the only way to
be I guess legit is to is to

1613
01:55:41.840 --> 01:55:44.359
be assassinated. You know, So
let me not hope for that. Non

1614
01:55:44.439 --> 01:55:48.399
It's just yeah, I'd hate to
think that's the case. Please don't invoke

1615
01:55:48.479 --> 01:55:53.560
that. I think it's just a
I think it's just a level of effectiveness.

1616
01:55:54.079 --> 01:55:56.840
Yeah, you know, you know
you talk about Joe Kennedy. It

1617
01:55:56.920 --> 01:56:00.000
always made me really suspicious of the
established and you know they called him an

1618
01:56:00.000 --> 01:56:04.800
appeaser because what Joe Kennedy, father
of JFK. Wasn't he the ambassador to

1619
01:56:04.840 --> 01:56:09.520
Great Britain? Yes, under FDR, and they were rivals and they had

1620
01:56:09.560 --> 01:56:13.680
a I think they had a very
different viewpoint on geopolitics and foreign policy.

1621
01:56:13.920 --> 01:56:15.319
Yes. Uh, and of course
this is America First, I mean,

1622
01:56:16.119 --> 01:56:19.239
the America First movement. Somebody needs
to do and you've done a lot in

1623
01:56:19.279 --> 01:56:25.079
your work too, But there's so
much to unpacked there about how it really

1624
01:56:25.119 --> 01:56:30.560
represented the best of America and for
decades and still is demonized by the estate.

1625
01:56:30.640 --> 01:56:32.760
And Joe Kennedy was one of those
people that he was, you know,

1626
01:56:32.840 --> 01:56:35.640
one of the guilty men. You
know, he was a he was

1627
01:56:35.720 --> 01:56:40.199
a Neville Chamberlain, you know,
peace in our time and all that.

1628
01:56:40.319 --> 01:56:44.199
Well, you know, even Neville
Chamberlain was a good man too. And

1629
01:56:44.319 --> 01:56:48.399
there was there was some people that
didn't want to have a worldwide cataclysm,

1630
01:56:49.079 --> 01:56:54.399
uh, you know, just because
there was there was a lot. He

1631
01:56:54.520 --> 01:56:57.520
talked about invoking parents, you know, you talk about the America First Speech

1632
01:56:57.560 --> 01:57:00.039
asking the parents, do you want
your sons to beacrificed on this altar?

1633
01:57:01.680 --> 01:57:05.720
The American people turned away from you
know, the after World War One,

1634
01:57:05.760 --> 01:57:09.920
we didn't want any part of the
League of Nations because we lost one hundred

1635
01:57:09.920 --> 01:57:13.439
and fifty thousand troops and then hundreds
of thousands wounded for what to make the

1636
01:57:13.479 --> 01:57:16.439
world safe for Hitler and Stalin.
It really wasn't a good bet. So

1637
01:57:16.920 --> 01:57:21.760
I think I think history is not
kind to those who, you know,

1638
01:57:21.920 --> 01:57:27.479
again stand up to the expansion of
government power or the expansion of the military

1639
01:57:27.520 --> 01:57:30.720
industrial complex of the state itself.
And Joe Kennedy I think is a victim

1640
01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:33.880
of that. And also he's a
bootlegger, right he didn't make his money.

1641
01:57:33.920 --> 01:57:36.319
Oh yeah, right, that's what
you have to be. You're you're

1642
01:57:36.319 --> 01:57:41.119
a crime, right said I get
so sick. I mean, it's the

1643
01:57:41.520 --> 01:57:45.680
it's the the uh, it's it's
the litany of things against it. Was

1644
01:57:45.720 --> 01:57:47.319
a bootlegger, he was, he
was involved with a mob, which is

1645
01:57:47.399 --> 01:57:51.920
nonsense. He the mob hated the
Kennedys and the Kennedy administration. Kennedy stole

1646
01:57:53.039 --> 01:57:57.319
Chicago with Mary Daily in nineteen sixty. I mean, these are all if

1647
01:57:57.439 --> 01:58:00.840
that happened, it was part of
big city politics and in every election.

1648
01:58:00.399 --> 01:58:04.720
So but again it's always Kennedy who
singled out you don't talk about landslide,

1649
01:58:04.760 --> 01:58:09.399
Lindon or the Senate where he,
as you pointed out, used the first

1650
01:58:09.520 --> 01:58:12.319
brought out the dead vote. You
know, hear things like that and very

1651
01:58:12.399 --> 01:58:17.479
other questionable electoral politics. But so's
it's the Kennedy's continue. I think they

1652
01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:21.319
stand out pretty well historically, and
as you mentioned, America First Committee all

1653
01:58:21.439 --> 01:58:26.159
Charles Lindberg was another prominent American that
was part of that, and it was

1654
01:58:26.239 --> 01:58:30.079
mainly a liberal group for the most
part. It was classical liberals who and

1655
01:58:30.159 --> 01:58:31.680
I in crimes and cover ups.
I talked a lot about that, people

1656
01:58:31.720 --> 01:58:36.000
like John T. Flynn, who
FDR was the first president to cancel somebody.

1657
01:58:36.039 --> 01:58:39.600
He canceled that guy's career. He
was a good liberal, wrote all

1658
01:58:39.640 --> 01:58:44.840
the mainstream publications. FDR sent out, you know, memos to all the

1659
01:58:44.880 --> 01:58:47.920
big newspapers in the magazine say hey, don't hire this guy. He's an

1660
01:58:47.960 --> 01:58:54.159
appeaser and ruined his career. And
that was I'll have more about that in

1661
01:58:54.199 --> 01:58:57.600
the upcoming the American Memory Hole about
FDR. He was the first one to

1662
01:58:57.840 --> 01:59:00.840
use the press, which he you
know, just like you look at Obama

1663
01:59:00.920 --> 01:59:04.439
or Biden today has the mainstream media
in their hands to use the press of

1664
01:59:04.479 --> 01:59:08.079
his day to go after his opponents. He used the I R. S.

1665
01:59:08.359 --> 01:59:12.079
It wasn't Nixon. SDR used it
much more exclusively. So these I

1666
01:59:12.079 --> 01:59:15.359
mean, that's why I read about
hitting history, because people just they don't

1667
01:59:15.399 --> 01:59:19.000
know that everything they're being told is
alive by the court of historians. It

1668
01:59:19.479 --> 01:59:23.840
really is. When you start unpacking
it, folks, you get real historians

1669
01:59:23.880 --> 01:59:26.359
like Don Jeffery as you go,
oh my, I can't believe this.

1670
01:59:26.479 --> 01:59:30.239
I didn't see these connections because you're
never it's never brought up. I mean,

1671
01:59:30.279 --> 01:59:33.720
it's just a paint a picture that's
completely different because that the universities are

1672
01:59:33.760 --> 01:59:38.520
funded by the same corporations that fund
the media. So you don't get and

1673
01:59:38.600 --> 01:59:42.359
there's no reward for people that want
an academic career to go against the grain

1674
01:59:42.399 --> 01:59:44.880
and say, well, that's that
doesn't make sense. Let's let's look at

1675
01:59:44.920 --> 01:59:46.880
some evidence here, or let's look
at the actual character this. You know,

1676
01:59:47.399 --> 01:59:49.960
we you know this last couple of
weeks, you know, we had

1677
01:59:50.000 --> 01:59:55.439
the anniversary of Pearl Harbor. I
talked about it with David on his show

1678
01:59:55.520 --> 01:59:59.119
here, and we talked about,
you know, for knowledge that FDR had

1679
01:59:59.159 --> 02:00:03.920
on Pearl Harbor. You know that
the Japanese Code Purple had been broken months

1680
02:00:03.960 --> 02:00:08.399
before that. They knew that the
Japanese were going to strike. They didn't

1681
02:00:08.439 --> 02:00:11.119
know exactly what minute, I don't
think, but they knew that it was

1682
02:00:11.159 --> 02:00:15.359
coming. They were warned by congressmen, by people that had intercepted radio transmissions.

1683
02:00:15.319 --> 02:00:18.600
So you know, that's a And
then nineteen eighty what was a John

1684
02:00:18.680 --> 02:00:23.359
Tolan wrote a book called Infamy.
He was a coret historian, but he

1685
02:00:23.399 --> 02:00:27.600
went and actually dug it up and
got you know, the the Foyas and

1686
02:00:27.960 --> 02:00:32.640
not everything else to show that there
was ample evidence and fore knowledge. And

1687
02:00:32.720 --> 02:00:38.319
he was demonized. Barbara Tuckman,
who wrote The Guns of August, called

1688
02:00:38.680 --> 02:00:43.159
Toland a Nazi because he's well,
first of all, that doesn't even make

1689
02:00:43.159 --> 02:00:45.000
any sense, but he was saying
that he's a Nazi. Now, you

1690
02:00:45.039 --> 02:00:49.239
wanted to rewrite the good war World
War two, and I just say,

1691
02:00:49.279 --> 02:00:53.319
folks, you know, I'm not
a professional historian, but we went to

1692
02:00:53.479 --> 02:00:57.560
war supposedly. You know, in
nineteen thirty nine, the West went to

1693
02:00:57.640 --> 02:01:03.119
war against itself for Poland because the
Hitler invaded Poland. So you know,

1694
02:01:03.199 --> 02:01:08.000
Great Britain declared war on Germany.
Well, at the end of the war,

1695
02:01:08.159 --> 02:01:12.560
we gave Poland to Stalin. So
fifty million dead just to give it

1696
02:01:12.680 --> 02:01:15.680
back to Stalin. That's what the
I mean, that's what the end of

1697
02:01:15.720 --> 02:01:18.520
the war, That's what it was. So don I could talk history with

1698
02:01:18.640 --> 02:01:21.119
you for hours and hours, and
that would be a great show in and

1699
02:01:21.239 --> 02:01:25.479
of itself. But I get to
do that every Saturday in America. I'm

1700
02:01:25.880 --> 02:01:30.159
very fortunate. Man. The America
Unplug channel on rockfin and Anywhere, podcasts

1701
02:01:30.159 --> 02:01:33.720
are found. Don tell people where
they can find you. And of course

1702
02:01:33.720 --> 02:01:39.239
I want to say before that we're
having a panel discussion on an article.

1703
02:01:39.319 --> 02:01:42.640
I got Charlie Robinson, mister Anderson, Guard Goldsmith here. If you want

1704
02:01:42.680 --> 02:01:44.840
to stick around on you know,
you're always welcome. If you got to

1705
02:01:44.840 --> 02:01:46.239
go, that's fine too, that's
fine. Yeah, I get to go

1706
02:01:46.239 --> 02:01:50.840
because I just but yeah, I
appreciate it. Think please substack Donald Jeffries

1707
02:01:50.880 --> 02:01:54.680
at substack dot COM's called I protest
like my life stream he soa it's the

1708
02:01:54.760 --> 02:01:57.720
only place I'm not shadow band on
pipe. I've been on red as the

1709
02:01:57.760 --> 02:02:00.399
new book Masking the Truth is out
there as well, the most shadow my

1710
02:02:00.560 --> 02:02:03.079
book in the world. So I
appreciate everyone's support, and I thank you

1711
02:02:03.279 --> 02:02:08.359
Tony for your support. Thank you
don always always a pleasure, sir,

1712
02:02:08.520 --> 02:02:14.840
appreciate you. All right, folks, Well we're in the third hour,

1713
02:02:15.720 --> 02:02:19.760
and uh, I've got a a
very esteemed panel. Let me start adding

1714
02:02:19.840 --> 02:02:26.520
their streams one at a time here, all right, We've got mister Anderson,

1715
02:02:26.600 --> 02:02:30.640
Charlie Robinson, Guard Goldsmith all here
too. And and by the way,

1716
02:02:30.680 --> 02:02:32.680
it wasn't like a lot of advanced
notice, So thanks gentlemen. For

1717
02:02:32.760 --> 02:02:35.840
being here the third hour of The
David Night Show. I've I've not even

1718
02:02:35.880 --> 02:02:41.359
really plugged the entire time. We're
in the third hour. It's been guard

1719
02:02:41.399 --> 02:02:44.600
Goldsmith came in early, made radio
easy. Then I got Don Jefferies.

1720
02:02:44.600 --> 02:02:47.279
How can you not make radio or
podcasting easier than that? You got Don.

1721
02:02:47.880 --> 02:02:53.000
So we're in the third hour.
I think we've got some great subject

1722
02:02:53.039 --> 02:02:56.760
matter. But I want to introduce
uh my little brother, mister Anderson.

1723
02:02:56.880 --> 02:03:00.640
If you want to know what he
does. At the end of Raiders of

1724
02:03:00.680 --> 02:03:03.880
the Lost Ark, you know when
they asked where the Ark of the Covenant

1725
02:03:03.920 --> 02:03:08.159
went, and it say it's being
examined by top men. That's what he

1726
02:03:08.319 --> 02:03:11.439
is. It's being examined by top
men. So welcome, Welcome to the

1727
02:03:11.520 --> 02:03:15.000
David Night Show. Mister Yeah,
let's go with the Hey Tony, how

1728
02:03:15.039 --> 02:03:16.720
you doing, Buddy, Good to
see you, my friend. Thanks for

1729
02:03:16.800 --> 02:03:20.079
having me. Oh, thanks for
coming on this article. We're going to

1730
02:03:20.119 --> 02:03:25.359
discuss I thought it was. It
has so much to unpacked, so we're

1731
02:03:25.399 --> 02:03:27.600
going to get to it. Charlie
Robinson, thanks for being here as well.

1732
02:03:27.880 --> 02:03:30.479
Author of the Octopus of Global Control, The Controlled Demolition of the American

1733
02:03:30.560 --> 02:03:35.960
Empire, Macro Aggressions Podcast and the
Hardest working Man in Alternative Media. Good

1734
02:03:36.000 --> 02:03:39.640
to see you, my friend.
Good to see you too. As they

1735
02:03:39.680 --> 02:03:42.560
say in Raiders of the Lost Ark, it's not the years, it's the

1736
02:03:42.680 --> 02:03:48.800
mileage. That's true. I always
feel like in somehow in this life,

1737
02:03:48.880 --> 02:03:54.399
I'm just Indiana Jones trying to get
the idol to have the same weight as

1738
02:03:54.439 --> 02:03:57.279
the back of sand doesn't act quite
right, you know, I'm just trying

1739
02:03:57.319 --> 02:04:00.159
to make my life work that way. Guard thanks for coming back in the

1740
02:04:00.239 --> 02:04:03.119
third hour and let me so to
the best of my ability. I'm my

1741
02:04:03.159 --> 02:04:06.520
own producer. I don't have a
Travis Knight here, but let me click

1742
02:04:06.600 --> 02:04:13.560
this article and try to get it
to feed into this stream. One second,

1743
02:04:14.000 --> 02:04:16.840
Well, we're gonna go over.
I saw this yesterday or two days

1744
02:04:16.840 --> 02:04:20.479
ago, and I thought, this
is this is a phenomenon We've got gen

1745
02:04:20.600 --> 02:04:29.800
z is reading the bin Laden Letter. Okay, so a lot to unpack

1746
02:04:29.880 --> 02:04:33.079
there to begin with. But this
is the again, TikTok, all the

1747
02:04:33.199 --> 02:04:41.479
things that Nikki Haley hates. This
is the Daily Mail. Hear me pull

1748
02:04:41.520 --> 02:04:48.159
this up? So Daily Mail one
in five Americans and the young Americans has

1749
02:04:48.199 --> 02:04:53.520
a positive view of Asama bin Laden
disturbing. Sorry, I don't know why

1750
02:04:53.600 --> 02:04:57.159
this is coming up. Well,
I lost I lost the feed. Well,

1751
02:04:57.279 --> 02:04:59.319
let me put it back, give
me a second, I'll put it

1752
02:04:59.359 --> 02:05:04.680
back up. But gen Z is
reading the bin Laden letter, right.

1753
02:05:05.520 --> 02:05:10.079
I've got questions about that in and
of itself. But what this is is

1754
02:05:10.359 --> 02:05:18.359
you've got this new generation is stumbling
upon a phenomenon known as blowback and rationalizing

1755
02:05:19.039 --> 02:05:26.319
the actions of the so called nine
to eleven hijackers and the terror plot because

1756
02:05:26.399 --> 02:05:29.479
of our involvement in the Middle East
and so on and so forth. If

1757
02:05:29.479 --> 02:05:33.039
you read the bin Laden letter,
well, it's interesting that this is even

1758
02:05:33.119 --> 02:05:40.439
a headline because there's something going on
here and I want to unpack what could

1759
02:05:40.479 --> 02:05:46.479
be causing this right now when we
have it's nine to eleven and I was

1760
02:05:46.560 --> 02:05:51.359
part of, you know, the
first army company on the ground in Candlehar,

1761
02:05:51.359 --> 02:05:56.319
Afghanistan following nine to eleven, and
then again I was in the tail

1762
02:05:56.359 --> 02:05:59.439
in the invasion of Iraq. So
I had a front row seat to the

1763
02:05:59.520 --> 02:06:03.239
geopop politics that were the a in
the aftermath, and I learned a lot

1764
02:06:03.319 --> 02:06:06.880
about it. I learned a lot
about you know, the different belief structures

1765
02:06:06.920 --> 02:06:11.680
and who does what, and you
know, I worked with the intelligence communities

1766
02:06:11.720 --> 02:06:14.319
and what they were seeing there on
the ground and what they were talking about.

1767
02:06:15.319 --> 02:06:19.920
But I've had questions ever since because
if you notice, there was this

1768
02:06:20.199 --> 02:06:24.640
time when it was like we're in
the battle of civilizations and it's good versus

1769
02:06:24.720 --> 02:06:28.399
evil and we're going to democratize mankind
and all this stuff, and all of

1770
02:06:28.439 --> 02:06:32.079
a sudden, one day it just
went away, and I thought, that's

1771
02:06:32.159 --> 02:06:36.319
not how classes of civilizations work,
you know. And if you go back

1772
02:06:36.359 --> 02:06:42.399
and you look at Syria and the
lead up to that, the deep state

1773
02:06:42.560 --> 02:06:47.079
for sure wanted to try to drag
America into another Middle Eastern conflict. They

1774
02:06:47.199 --> 02:06:53.479
just couldn't get the get it off
the ground, They couldn't get the public

1775
02:06:53.600 --> 02:06:57.920
behind it. They tried several times
with with false flags that were clearly like

1776
02:06:58.119 --> 02:07:01.720
just sloppy the white hats and he's
gassing his own people. And this is

1777
02:07:01.760 --> 02:07:04.399
when I started out in radio,
and I'm like, clearly, this is

1778
02:07:04.439 --> 02:07:06.920
a false flag. I mean,
can you see that? And the American

1779
02:07:08.000 --> 02:07:11.359
people, for all their faults,
didn't jump. There was remember there was

1780
02:07:11.399 --> 02:07:15.600
the red line that Obama put down. Well, if you folks, if

1781
02:07:15.600 --> 02:07:18.920
you remember your timeline. Right after
that, you didn't hear much about it.

1782
02:07:19.039 --> 02:07:23.199
There was isis in the Toyota pickups
that we gave him and all the

1783
02:07:23.279 --> 02:07:28.640
weapons. And you know, Hillary
Clinton ran in twenty sixteen on bombing and

1784
02:07:28.760 --> 02:07:32.039
shooting down Russian aircraft if they tried
to herd al Qaeda. That's where we

1785
02:07:32.159 --> 02:07:35.960
went. So by twenty sixteen,
the policy of the US government was to

1786
02:07:36.000 --> 02:07:40.479
protect al Qaida. I don't know
if anybody was paying attention. That was

1787
02:07:40.520 --> 02:07:45.640
the twenty sixteen foreign policy debate between
Trump and Hillary Clinton. So al Qaeda

1788
02:07:45.720 --> 02:07:49.479
went away, and now they're bringing
it. They're getting the band back together

1789
02:07:50.199 --> 02:07:54.560
because after October seventh, So I've
been asking the question, I go,

1790
02:07:54.680 --> 02:07:57.399
where did they go? Why is
it not a thing? Because we have

1791
02:07:57.479 --> 02:08:01.680
a wide open if you want to
know, like with something real and uh,

1792
02:08:01.760 --> 02:08:03.000
I can't wait for you guys at
chime in on this, but we've

1793
02:08:03.800 --> 02:08:09.119
if you want to know something's real, like COVID nineteen eighty four, Is

1794
02:08:09.199 --> 02:08:11.720
it real? Is it the most
deadly thing to ever know? Because we

1795
02:08:11.800 --> 02:08:15.399
have a wide open border. Is
terrorism real? Yeah? Probably when we

1796
02:08:15.479 --> 02:08:18.279
fund it. And of course if
you go over to somebody's you know where

1797
02:08:18.319 --> 02:08:20.960
they live and occupy it. You're
gonna get shot at and blown up.

1798
02:08:20.960 --> 02:08:24.880
There's things are going to happen.
That's real. But we have a wide

1799
02:08:24.920 --> 02:08:28.039
open border, so you know,
Jim Mars brought that up for years and

1800
02:08:28.119 --> 02:08:31.640
years. That's kind of the tell, so I'd ask where it went.

1801
02:08:31.359 --> 02:08:33.960
So now I'm seeing these stories,
I'm going to see if I can pull

1802
02:08:35.000 --> 02:08:37.520
it back. I'm having trouble with
my uh being my own I'm going to

1803
02:08:37.600 --> 02:08:41.720
fire myself as my own producer.
I know you guys had a chance to

1804
02:08:43.039 --> 02:08:46.199
read the article. Charlie, I'll
throw it to you first. What were

1805
02:08:46.239 --> 02:08:50.439
your thoughts on this as a phenomenon
going on with young people? And It'sama

1806
02:08:50.479 --> 02:08:54.000
bin Laden? I mean, what's
you know? Unpack this for me?

1807
02:08:54.079 --> 02:08:58.720
What am I looking? I can't
wait till Isis gets out of the studio

1808
02:08:58.000 --> 02:09:01.000
and drops their new album and it's
gonna be the best. It's good.

1809
02:09:01.039 --> 02:09:05.199
They might even it might even be
the bomb. They said. This is

1810
02:09:07.119 --> 02:09:09.359
just wait until these kids get to
Bill Cooper's work. You know what I

1811
02:09:09.439 --> 02:09:13.720
mean? You can watch them like
going through They're like, oh look at

1812
02:09:13.760 --> 02:09:18.199
this bin Laden letter and everything.
You're like, keep going going, You're

1813
02:09:18.199 --> 02:09:24.520
almost there, You're almost to the
good part. It's it's it's hilarious and

1814
02:09:24.680 --> 02:09:31.239
terrifying all at the same time,
because because again, like I like the

1815
02:09:31.399 --> 02:09:37.119
fact that they're not getting their news
from the mainstream media, but they're getting

1816
02:09:37.199 --> 02:09:45.239
it from a source that's that also
is equally ripe for manipulation and preying on

1817
02:09:45.319 --> 02:09:50.079
their emotions and and and giving them
ninety five percent truth with five percent lies

1818
02:09:50.239 --> 02:09:54.479
and all that, all those tricks
that that they use on us to convince

1819
02:09:54.560 --> 02:10:00.840
people to feel a certain way about
things. It's interesting the they're you know,

1820
02:10:01.800 --> 02:10:07.439
I want to like interject into this
whole conversation with these with the with

1821
02:10:07.600 --> 02:10:13.159
the kids that are that are reading
about Ben Lauden then say like okay,

1822
02:10:13.359 --> 02:10:16.439
like here's a little footnote as well, like remember we used to call him

1823
02:10:16.479 --> 02:10:20.680
tim Osman when you work for the
CIA, and we did that for twenty

1824
02:10:20.760 --> 02:10:24.720
years. He was one of our
guys. So like, that's information that

1825
02:10:24.760 --> 02:10:28.520
you probably need to know. And
the Tora Bora caves and all that nonsense,

1826
02:10:28.680 --> 02:10:31.760
you know, you probably like it
would have helped. It's very helpful

1827
02:10:31.920 --> 02:10:39.479
to be alive during that event because
you in retrospect, you look back and

1828
02:10:39.520 --> 02:10:41.439
you go Oh yeah, I do
remember that. That is crazy, you

1829
02:10:41.520 --> 02:10:46.279
know, you think you you think
you've got thoughts on Osama bin Laden all

1830
02:10:46.319 --> 02:10:50.319
your new generation. That's great,
let's we we can explore that. But

1831
02:10:50.439 --> 02:10:56.119
also just remember that the mainstream media
told you that a passport from a hijacker

1832
02:10:56.279 --> 02:11:01.319
was found at the foot of an
FBI agent block from the crime scene,

1833
02:11:01.000 --> 02:11:07.079
if you can believe that, as
Garrick Utley had to preface because he could

1834
02:11:07.079 --> 02:11:11.199
barely believe that the words were coming
out of his mouth. So there's a

1835
02:11:11.319 --> 02:11:16.000
lot that gets lost just over the
years. And I'm sure that the same

1836
02:11:16.119 --> 02:11:20.840
has happened to me looking back on
the Kennedy assassination, because I wasn't there

1837
02:11:20.159 --> 02:11:24.720
and I wasn't alive, you know. And so the new generation re examining

1838
02:11:24.840 --> 02:11:30.560
nine to eleven. Good, I
guess I'm on the all for them examining

1839
02:11:30.640 --> 02:11:35.920
nine to eleven, but only if
they do so with some better source material.

1840
02:11:35.359 --> 02:11:39.279
So we know that the mainstream media
is totally corrupt, But you know,

1841
02:11:39.319 --> 02:11:41.680
I don't know that TikTok is much
better. So so again, like

1842
02:11:41.880 --> 02:11:48.359
I'm on the one hand, I'm
I'm glad that they're reassessing things, but

1843
02:11:50.000 --> 02:11:54.399
I would love to be in the
room to kind of say, oh,

1844
02:11:56.479 --> 02:11:58.880
that's propaganda. Hang on a second, that stuff that you're talking about,

1845
02:12:00.159 --> 02:12:05.279
No, that's straight up propaganda and
lies. You're close, but here's where

1846
02:12:05.319 --> 02:12:07.079
you know, I'd love to kind
of guide the process. But if you

1847
02:12:07.159 --> 02:12:09.720
know, we don't really get that. That luxury it's fat, it's it's

1848
02:12:09.800 --> 02:12:13.800
hilarious to me though, also like
the the side of me that finds the

1849
02:12:13.920 --> 02:12:18.000
humor in all of this, like
the people these kids are like, well,

1850
02:12:18.119 --> 02:12:20.680
actually, Sama, Bin Lauden was
a great guy, and you're just

1851
02:12:20.800 --> 02:12:24.680
like, oh, this is so, this is ge get your popcorn.

1852
02:12:24.800 --> 02:12:28.960
The twenty twenty four is gonna be
wild, Like you mentioned, like,

1853
02:12:28.399 --> 02:12:33.439
can you imagine they come across the
audio recording of Bill Cooper and Charlie and

1854
02:12:33.439 --> 02:12:37.319
I both spoke at Free World NYC
in New York City, you know,

1855
02:12:37.439 --> 02:12:41.000
pretty much on the anniversary of nine
to eleven. Uh, just talking about

1856
02:12:41.039 --> 02:12:46.119
the event, and when I referenced
Bill Cooper because it's one of the things

1857
02:12:46.159 --> 02:12:48.439
that I've talked with BILLI Ray Valentine, who just joined us. By the

1858
02:12:48.439 --> 02:12:52.600
way, he's hanging out. He's
gonna be part of the panels. Good

1859
02:12:52.600 --> 02:12:56.520
to see, Good to see br
V, you know, thinking about him

1860
02:12:56.880 --> 02:13:01.479
telling his audience in June of two
thousand and one that there's gonna be a

1861
02:13:03.119 --> 02:13:07.640
major terror event. There's gonna be
a cataclysmic terror event. It's going to

1862
02:13:07.680 --> 02:13:11.840
be blamed on Osama bin Laden.
And don't you even believe it? I

1863
02:13:11.920 --> 02:13:16.359
mean, this is a guy in
his eager Arizona, you know, his

1864
02:13:16.560 --> 02:13:20.720
upstairs in his home studio telling you
how this works, and how that the

1865
02:13:20.800 --> 02:13:24.479
CIA had recruited Asama bin Laden and
trained him and funded him, and they

1866
02:13:24.560 --> 02:13:28.800
know exactly where he is and that
you know, CNN can somehow find him

1867
02:13:28.800 --> 02:13:33.640
and do an interview. But the
FBI and the CIA and military intelligence and

1868
02:13:33.039 --> 02:13:37.680
supposedly he's an enemy of Israel and
he's saying he's gonna attack, But why

1869
02:13:37.680 --> 02:13:41.399
does an Israel take him out?
There's all these open questions, and then

1870
02:13:41.840 --> 02:13:45.720
who is he? Matter of fact, there's an article up I thought this

1871
02:13:45.960 --> 02:13:52.680
was pretty apropos. There's an article
up on lou Rockwell dot com, a

1872
02:13:52.800 --> 02:13:58.680
great site for articles in libertarian thought, and it says, is al Qaeda

1873
02:13:58.760 --> 02:14:03.319
an existential threat? And what is
the meaning of al Qaeda in Arabic?

1874
02:14:03.479 --> 02:14:07.000
And you know what it is?
The meaning means that. It means doesn't

1875
02:14:07.039 --> 02:14:09.760
mean the base, which is what
we were told by the media, like

1876
02:14:09.880 --> 02:14:13.600
they just sprung up and it's this
shadowy, you know, group that just

1877
02:14:13.720 --> 02:14:16.560
wants to kill us for our freedom. You know. And by the way,

1878
02:14:16.600 --> 02:14:18.560
if they hate us for our freedom, can we just be friends now

1879
02:14:18.640 --> 02:14:22.560
since we don't happen any left.
Yeah, exactly, they don't when it

1880
02:14:22.600 --> 02:14:24.600
kill us for our freedom. But
it doesn't mean that, folks, It

1881
02:14:24.680 --> 02:14:28.199
doesn't mean the base. It means
the database. It was the database set

1882
02:14:28.279 --> 02:14:33.239
up by the Central Intelligence Agency for
the Musha a Dean and the Holy Warriors,

1883
02:14:33.279 --> 02:14:37.319
the fighters against the Soviet Union after
the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, and

1884
02:14:37.359 --> 02:14:41.359
they knew that they anticipated the Soviet
Union invading Afghanistan. It's one of the

1885
02:14:41.399 --> 02:14:46.039
reasons why you, Charlie mentioned the
name tim Osman. That was Sosama bin

1886
02:14:46.119 --> 02:14:50.600
Laden's code name, and he was
brought in in nineteen seventy nine. I

1887
02:14:50.079 --> 02:14:54.760
know when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan because's
the day I was born, So,

1888
02:14:54.960 --> 02:14:58.119
I mean they were talking to him. I've just had a birthday. It

1889
02:14:58.119 --> 02:15:03.840
is a December twenty sixth. They
already had that in the works to resist

1890
02:15:03.920 --> 02:15:07.720
the Soviet invests. They were anticipating
this, so it's not in these surface

1891
02:15:07.840 --> 02:15:11.399
level things are not exactly what and
the kids are stumbling across them. I

1892
02:15:11.600 --> 02:15:15.039
personally think, and I'm gonna throw
it to mister Anderson, I personally think

1893
02:15:15.560 --> 02:15:22.800
that these type of pop culture cul
de sacs there. I think they're creating

1894
02:15:22.880 --> 02:15:26.680
a database of gen Zers and TikTokers
and all these other they want to see

1895
02:15:26.720 --> 02:15:31.720
who subscribes to this belief system,
because I think they're actually doing some data

1896
02:15:31.800 --> 02:15:37.279
mining right now. If you know
anything about simulations, the Pentagon two or

1897
02:15:37.319 --> 02:15:46.000
three years ago ran a war simulation
against a generation Z bitcoin revolt. So

1898
02:15:46.119 --> 02:15:50.359
what's the Pentagon have to do with
currency everything? Anyway, I'm gonna throw

1899
02:15:50.399 --> 02:15:54.880
mister Anderson. What were you any
thoughts on this being some sort of like

1900
02:15:56.439 --> 02:16:00.199
trial balloon they put out for,
you know, they want to see that's

1901
02:16:00.279 --> 02:16:03.239
the mood of younger people or TikTok
people. What do you think, Mike?

1902
02:16:05.079 --> 02:16:07.159
Yeah, I'm kind of not in
that sphere of influence, but it

1903
02:16:07.239 --> 02:16:11.399
seemed right from the outset to me. It's somewhat of a limited survey.

1904
02:16:11.600 --> 02:16:16.119
It looked like only a thousand people, But I was annoyed right from the

1905
02:16:16.159 --> 02:16:20.000
outset, because this is just going
to give people like Ben Shapiro more ammunition

1906
02:16:20.159 --> 02:16:26.640
to practice his angry auctioneer cadence and
Mark Levin to start yelling shut up.

1907
02:16:26.680 --> 02:16:31.280
Yeah ready yet. So there's reasons
I don't listen to them anymore. But

1908
02:16:31.479 --> 02:16:37.159
yeah, I really don't engage in
conversations with people who don't even have anything

1909
02:16:37.479 --> 02:16:41.879
more than surface level details. I've
had to come to that agreement with myself

1910
02:16:41.000 --> 02:16:46.399
to avoid a lot of irritation.
I mean, I would imagine these people

1911
02:16:46.479 --> 02:16:50.920
who answered that way in the survey
have no idea about that building that wonder

1912
02:16:52.000 --> 02:16:56.040
woman in her jet hit on the
same day that collapsed, and so I

1913
02:16:56.280 --> 02:17:01.319
would really like, I would really
like to see how the questions were framed

1914
02:17:01.920 --> 02:17:05.239
and if I could add some other
questions to the survey like that. So

1915
02:17:05.959 --> 02:17:07.440
I agree with you, Tony.
We were discussing about it. You brought

1916
02:17:07.479 --> 02:17:11.680
up something I didn't know the other
evening about there was apparently a memo the

1917
02:17:11.719 --> 02:17:16.799
White House sent out right about which
of these syops are real? We don't

1918
02:17:16.799 --> 02:17:18.840
even know anymore. Oh, yeah, that's recent. Yeah, in the

1919
02:17:18.959 --> 02:17:24.040
last year or so, the Executive
Branch put out a memorandum to in the

1920
02:17:24.239 --> 02:17:30.520
all agencies in the periphery of the
Executive to report on what syops they were

1921
02:17:30.559 --> 02:17:35.079
running because no one knew exactly what
was real. There's so many syops,

1922
02:17:37.479 --> 02:17:41.000
folks, you can look it up. They wanted to try to figure out

1923
02:17:41.280 --> 02:17:46.200
what was actually real or not because
they were running so many simultaneous siops and

1924
02:17:46.200 --> 02:17:50.280
they got away from them. I
like the invisible plane reference. That's very

1925
02:17:50.319 --> 02:17:52.959
good. I've not thought of that
before. It's the meme where the little

1926
02:17:54.000 --> 02:17:58.360
spider man's pointing at each other.
Yes, yes, that's exactly what I

1927
02:17:58.399 --> 02:18:03.639
thought of. Charlie last night.
Well, oh Guard, you know you

1928
02:18:05.239 --> 02:18:07.799
you and I talked off air before
we went live today. I kind of

1929
02:18:07.840 --> 02:18:11.920
mentioned this article and David's I believe, spoken about there's something weird with it.

1930
02:18:13.920 --> 02:18:20.760
Like they it makes headlines, especially
after October seventh, you know,

1931
02:18:20.799 --> 02:18:22.600
where they're getting the band back together. We're hearing about how kainda. You

1932
02:18:22.639 --> 02:18:26.280
know, Billy Ray's mentioned this to
me many times about you know, after

1933
02:18:26.399 --> 02:18:33.959
Trump had a solemony killed. Yeah, there was there was hashtag World War

1934
02:18:33.040 --> 02:18:37.840
three, the Iranian general you know
they killed in Iraq, and there was

1935
02:18:37.920 --> 02:18:41.959
something on the horizon with another conflict
and then that kind of got buried,

1936
02:18:43.440 --> 02:18:45.920
and Billy's been mentioned they're going to
bring that back. They're going to bring

1937
02:18:46.000 --> 02:18:48.239
that back, you know, and
I've been waiting for it because I wonder

1938
02:18:48.319 --> 02:18:52.159
what would they use for the opportunity. This seems to be sneaking it in,

1939
02:18:52.520 --> 02:18:56.399
kind of putting it back into the
consciousness. And this is something that

1940
02:18:56.440 --> 02:19:00.280
Bill Cooper talked about in his two
thousand and one broadcast. He's like they're

1941
02:19:00.280 --> 02:19:03.479
getting him ready for his close up, Like they're they're showing you the image

1942
02:19:03.959 --> 02:19:07.600
of Asama bin Laden doing these you
know, these fake interviews like CNN and

1943
02:19:09.159 --> 02:19:11.360
so suppose that they can find him, but the intelligence community can't all this

1944
02:19:11.399 --> 02:19:16.680
stuff and he's an enemy of America. It is there's something with this.

1945
02:19:16.879 --> 02:19:20.040
I think that goes along with not
just the gullibility of younger people, but

1946
02:19:20.959 --> 02:19:26.479
the fact that they won't research a
little bit further. But there's something else

1947
02:19:26.559 --> 02:19:28.959
to it. Guard what do you
think is this? Is this some kind

1948
02:19:28.959 --> 02:19:33.959
of does to ring this up into
It was interesting because that poll is is

1949
02:19:35.120 --> 02:19:39.600
quite a reminder. It follows up
on my initial bush was Wow, you

1950
02:19:39.639 --> 02:19:41.600
know, this seems to be spontaneous. It's coming out of you know,

1951
02:19:41.760 --> 02:19:45.840
things like TikTok, and people are
spreading these things around. And again,

1952
02:19:45.879 --> 02:19:48.079
you know, we mentioned Nikki Haley
and to stay off of TikTok because you're

1953
02:19:48.079 --> 02:19:50.920
going to turn into a Nazi,
you know. Oh my gosh. But

1954
02:19:52.319 --> 02:19:56.799
uh but by the way, I
hear that even though a wonder woman lost

1955
02:19:56.879 --> 02:20:00.479
her invisible jet in nine to eleven, uh, she's going to have a

1956
02:20:00.520 --> 02:20:03.520
new one to be able to fly
to COP twenty nine privately. So it'll

1957
02:20:03.559 --> 02:20:07.760
be totally cool, totally for the
climate. Everything thumbs up awesome, you

1958
02:20:07.840 --> 02:20:11.319
know. But anyway, just so
they can gin up more fear, you

1959
02:20:11.399 --> 02:20:16.159
know. But I and looking back
at it, it does seem kind of

1960
02:20:16.239 --> 02:20:22.760
strange. And we know that so
often these forces that have these long term

1961
02:20:22.840 --> 02:20:26.639
plans they have to probe, they
have to test and find out where the

1962
02:20:28.079 --> 02:20:35.559
film is strongest in opposition and where
it is most most malleable. And so

1963
02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:41.319
it definitely could be something where even
though I think the bin Laden document is

1964
02:20:41.520 --> 02:20:48.200
a real document and does actually show
what he thinks, maybe even that isn't

1965
02:20:48.239 --> 02:20:50.319
real. I don't know, but
I do think it is. And the

1966
02:20:50.719 --> 02:20:56.040
logic behind the actual Binladen thing,
whether it's real or not real. I

1967
02:20:56.159 --> 02:21:00.879
start to think to myself, Okay, look we know that inside the bin

1968
02:21:01.000 --> 02:21:07.040
Laden document he talks about basically he's
giving the argument for blowback, and he's

1969
02:21:07.040 --> 02:21:11.479
saying, look, we're doing this
not because we hate McDonald's, not because

1970
02:21:11.520 --> 02:21:15.719
we don't like Playboy magazine, but
because of what is going on in the

1971
02:21:15.840 --> 02:21:20.440
United States policies here for decades,
and we're going after you. And just

1972
02:21:20.600 --> 02:21:26.159
like you've been sold this tomfoolery of
this is your government, we are now

1973
02:21:26.319 --> 02:21:31.879
also agreeing with that. So we're
going to attack civilians. You know where

1974
02:21:31.040 --> 02:21:37.000
the line is there and how closely
he was working with the CIA. But

1975
02:21:37.159 --> 02:21:41.440
this is the thing, if that
is a false narrative that someone is putting

1976
02:21:41.479 --> 02:21:48.719
out, then that actually runs counter
to what Wesley Clark was discussing in on

1977
02:21:48.879 --> 02:21:52.280
Democracy Now when he was saying,
look, I found out they want to

1978
02:21:52.360 --> 02:21:56.239
topple these seven nations. They want
to eventually go after Iran, which is

1979
02:21:56.319 --> 02:22:01.840
what they're trying to do now.
So I to think as some of the

1980
02:22:01.879 --> 02:22:05.600
other people, as I mentioned the
time Square Bomber said the same thing when

1981
02:22:05.639 --> 02:22:09.159
he was sentenced and asked how he
pled so we know that there is such

1982
02:22:09.200 --> 02:22:11.920
a thing as blowback. One of
the most trustworthy guys out there, Ron

1983
02:22:13.000 --> 02:22:15.399
Paul, has talked about that.
We know, and when you're blowing up

1984
02:22:15.399 --> 02:22:18.959
wedding parties or soccer players in Yemen, or little kids, or extra judicial

1985
02:22:20.040 --> 02:22:24.239
murders of Americans overseas as well,
we know that there's going to be maybe

1986
02:22:24.360 --> 02:22:30.319
some people who are connected to those
who don't quite like that. So I

1987
02:22:30.479 --> 02:22:37.319
think the arguments that were presented in
the Bin Laden Bin Laden letter are probably

1988
02:22:37.520 --> 02:22:43.239
authentic. But where did it come
from in this sudden way? Was it

1989
02:22:43.399 --> 02:22:48.959
artificial? It's very tough to tell, and that's where I sort of I

1990
02:22:48.159 --> 02:22:52.000
just can't figure that out. If
it was done artificially, why would they

1991
02:22:52.040 --> 02:22:58.040
put that information out there and get
all these people now exposed to an argument

1992
02:22:58.120 --> 02:23:01.959
that runs counter to their long term
goals, unless they've got some other long

1993
02:23:01.079 --> 02:23:05.840
term goals, or as you say, they're probing because they thought it would

1994
02:23:05.879 --> 02:23:07.319
be discovered eventually, So why don't
we put it out now? I just

1995
02:23:07.399 --> 02:23:15.239
don't know. Perhaps data mining there
seems to be like a resurgence of trying

1996
02:23:15.360 --> 02:23:22.840
to reset the table again to a
Middle Eastern focused foreign policy again, especially

1997
02:23:22.879 --> 02:23:24.600
as the dollar waynes I just read, you know, we read the article

1998
02:23:24.639 --> 02:23:30.680
earlier today about Russia and Iran officially
dumping all ties to the dollars as part

1999
02:23:30.680 --> 02:23:35.000
of the dollarization that's happening. You
need to go back to Wesley Clark.

2000
02:23:35.079 --> 02:23:37.840
General Wesley Clark, that was a
Supreme commander of NATO up you know,

2001
02:23:39.079 --> 02:23:43.200
and during mister Clinton's Kosovo War another
one, another one of my foreign wars

2002
02:23:43.239 --> 02:23:46.319
I had a front row seat to
and he got to he go into the

2003
02:23:46.360 --> 02:23:48.840
Pentagon after he retired after nine to
eleven, and they said, we're going

2004
02:23:48.920 --> 02:23:54.040
to hit seven countries in five years. This is always there's been some you

2005
02:23:54.120 --> 02:23:58.959
know, this this the strategy of
controlling trade and oil. And of course

2006
02:24:00.159 --> 02:24:07.200
there's there's the political aspect of the
Israeli lobby in our foreign policy as well,

2007
02:24:07.280 --> 02:24:09.079
and how much we get involved there. So I think they're I think

2008
02:24:09.120 --> 02:24:13.319
they're resetting the table, and I
think they're also data mining. I think

2009
02:24:13.360 --> 02:24:18.559
they're they realize that the country is
not the same thing. You couldn't do

2010
02:24:18.000 --> 02:24:24.079
the same thing that you're talking about
galvanizing a popular sentiment. It would have

2011
02:24:24.200 --> 02:24:28.719
to be cataclysmic on a level we've
never seen before. To even get close

2012
02:24:28.799 --> 02:24:33.799
to those type of numbers to justify
everything that happened post nine to eleven.

2013
02:24:33.360 --> 02:24:37.760
So to me, they're doing something, and they're of course they're controlling the

2014
02:24:37.840 --> 02:24:41.639
narrative as well, because I mean, if you can keep it focused on,

2015
02:24:41.760 --> 02:24:45.719
well, that's why terrorism happens and
not not the fact that it's you

2016
02:24:45.760 --> 02:24:48.680
know, nine to eleven was something
other than what they said it was.

2017
02:24:48.760 --> 02:24:52.600
I mean, Charlie mentioned earlier they
find the the hijacker's passport in the rubble.

2018
02:24:54.079 --> 02:24:58.920
You know, uh, jet fuel
somehow breaks the laws of physics and

2019
02:24:58.959 --> 02:25:01.799
melt steel, but it can't melt
a passport. I mean, come on,

2020
02:25:01.920 --> 02:25:05.600
I mean, it's like this is
the stuff they expect you to believe

2021
02:25:05.719 --> 02:25:09.680
or that you know, there's like
mister Anderson said, a wonder Woman's plane

2022
02:25:09.799 --> 02:25:13.680
hits the third building that collapses symmetrically
into its own footprint. You know,

2023
02:25:13.280 --> 02:25:16.600
you got to buy that somehow.
So there's I think there's a lot with

2024
02:25:16.719 --> 02:25:20.719
this. So there's these are the
little things that I pick up on.

2025
02:25:20.559 --> 02:25:24.079
Then I think these are gonna be
things to watch Like this is they're definitely

2026
02:25:24.159 --> 02:25:30.120
building a new narrative. They're getting
the band back together. You're starting to

2027
02:25:30.200 --> 02:25:33.920
hear things about terrorism again. They're
getting worried again, worried, you know,

2028
02:25:33.959 --> 02:25:37.600
they're starting to they're gonna are they
gonna bring back the color coding,

2029
02:25:37.760 --> 02:25:41.920
Billy Ray, Valentine? Are they
going to bring back you know, the

2030
02:25:43.239 --> 02:25:46.719
the levels that what is it?
Tom Ridge? Remember Tom Ridge two thousand

2031
02:25:46.760 --> 02:25:52.639
and three or so, a head
of the newly formed Department of Homeland Security,

2032
02:25:52.840 --> 02:25:56.360
was the governor of Pennsylvania. And
he's got you color coded. So

2033
02:25:56.440 --> 02:25:58.959
if you if it's red, then
you're gonna be really scared. Orange,

2034
02:26:00.159 --> 02:26:03.319
not so much. Yellow. I
don't know. Yellow. Maybe it's you

2035
02:26:03.399 --> 02:26:07.319
got you got to check your phone, make sure that no headlines have changed,

2036
02:26:07.600 --> 02:26:11.200
you know, keep your gas mask
within reach. Are you? Are

2037
02:26:11.239 --> 02:26:16.399
you color coding your fear, Billy
Ray? How are they going to to

2038
02:26:16.559 --> 02:26:20.200
make this happen with your neuralink?
Is more more of an important point to

2039
02:26:20.319 --> 02:26:26.840
me that they're they're getting rid of
of cell phones. They've already started talking

2040
02:26:26.879 --> 02:26:31.280
about what's the next phase, what's
the next phase in wearables? How are

2041
02:26:31.319 --> 02:26:33.399
we going to do this? Because
we don't want to carry around cell phones

2042
02:26:33.399 --> 02:26:37.200
anymore. So they're probably being the
color right into your your dreams and when

2043
02:26:37.239 --> 02:26:41.959
you wake up, you know where
you're at as far as these attacks go,

2044
02:26:41.200 --> 02:26:46.000
or whatever they're trying to say.
Listen, this story brings up a

2045
02:26:46.040 --> 02:26:50.680
lot of several different points that I
want to make. In particular, the

2046
02:26:50.760 --> 02:26:54.920
most important one. I just think
this is part of fourth generation warfare.

2047
02:26:54.639 --> 02:27:01.120
This is aimed to confuse psyops upon
thyops upon sid Right, I'm not saying

2048
02:27:01.200 --> 02:27:05.239
that it is a syop, but
I don't know, And that is the

2049
02:27:05.360 --> 02:27:09.000
point of all of this. Right. It was a young lady that put

2050
02:27:09.040 --> 02:27:13.680
it out on TikTok, and that's
the genius of TikTok. Right. You

2051
02:27:13.799 --> 02:27:18.319
can put out a video for thirty
seconds and if it's a cute girl and

2052
02:27:18.399 --> 02:27:24.680
it's produced the right way, people
are gonna watch and they're not gonna question.

2053
02:27:24.000 --> 02:27:26.879
Really, they're gonna be, oh
my god, that's what it said,

2054
02:27:26.959 --> 02:27:31.920
and they're gonna keep moving. They're
not gonna go research it. They

2055
02:27:31.959 --> 02:27:35.239
don't care, and they don't have
any prior knowledge of what came before.

2056
02:27:35.319 --> 02:27:37.559
They really don't know the narrative of
nine to eleven. They don't know what

2057
02:27:37.600 --> 02:27:39.840
happened. They don't know three buildings
fell, They don't know any of that.

2058
02:27:41.239 --> 02:27:45.680
They may not know that two buildings
fell. Right. You can ask

2059
02:27:46.040 --> 02:27:48.520
people walking the street nowadays what happened
on nine to eleven, they might not

2060
02:27:48.680 --> 02:27:52.799
be able to tell you if they're
of a certain age. Right, So

2061
02:27:52.920 --> 02:28:00.479
they see videos like this and they
take it as gospel. But also it's

2062
02:28:00.559 --> 02:28:07.159
important to realize that there have been
psyops that have been run on the people

2063
02:28:07.239 --> 02:28:11.559
of America and the people of the
world throughout social media for quite some time

2064
02:28:11.760 --> 02:28:13.639
now, So to put out so
first off, I have a hard time

2065
02:28:13.719 --> 02:28:20.399
believing this poll personally. Is it
out of the Roman possibility? No,

2066
02:28:20.520 --> 02:28:22.319
it's not. I just have a
hard time believing it for whatever reason.

2067
02:28:24.319 --> 02:28:30.840
But let's put that. Putting that
aside, let's say that this is true,

2068
02:28:31.879 --> 02:28:35.040
and and that these kids believe this
stuff. Gen Z, they believe

2069
02:28:35.200 --> 02:28:39.760
this stuff. There's a couple of
reasons why it came out right now.

2070
02:28:39.840 --> 02:28:46.120
It came out now in part because
of what's going on in the Middle East,

2071
02:28:46.319 --> 02:28:54.319
right, And and the sentiments of
most young Americans are anti the Israeli

2072
02:28:54.440 --> 02:29:01.479
government, not necessarily anti Israel.
Right. They're giving Biden incredible push right

2073
02:29:01.559 --> 02:29:03.959
to the point that he has to
make some changes and try to appease these

2074
02:29:05.040 --> 02:29:07.319
people. Because they're like, listen, what's going on over there? Knock

2075
02:29:07.399 --> 02:29:13.440
it off, right, let's do
something about this. So it's very opportunistic

2076
02:29:13.000 --> 02:29:18.159
in my opinion, and that's why
I would suspect something like a psyop here

2077
02:29:18.639 --> 02:29:24.079
that this video was inserted into TikTok
where young people watch, they look,

2078
02:29:24.280 --> 02:29:30.799
they consume, They don't analyze,
They just consume and keep it moving,

2079
02:29:30.920 --> 02:29:39.440
and that becomes their reality. Whatever
they are told for those thirty seconds becomes

2080
02:29:39.680 --> 02:29:46.479
their reality. There are a few
from that group that will actually go and

2081
02:29:46.680 --> 02:29:54.920
investigate. One percent maybe that car
enough to investigate. And that is the

2082
02:29:54.559 --> 02:30:00.360
problem. This is the mind control, and it will continue to get worse

2083
02:30:00.520 --> 02:30:05.239
because the people know less and less
as generations continue. And this is the

2084
02:30:05.280 --> 02:30:11.159
way we've been bred. I am
no exception. I just happened to be

2085
02:30:11.319 --> 02:30:15.319
born before the social media age,
so I know a little bit more than

2086
02:30:15.399 --> 02:30:18.879
they do, right, But I
don't know as much as Tony does on

2087
02:30:20.079 --> 02:30:22.840
things like this. Tony is a
rare breed on things like this. Guard

2088
02:30:24.000 --> 02:30:31.680
you know, Charlie, mister Anderson, God bless, how are you right?

2089
02:30:31.079 --> 02:30:37.680
You know? But but I know
more than than most people that that

2090
02:30:37.879 --> 02:30:43.319
were born after me, by default, right, But but I understand how

2091
02:30:43.360 --> 02:30:50.399
this works. Right, So every
generation that comes afterwards just knows more more,

2092
02:30:50.600 --> 02:30:54.280
knows less by default, and is
less interested by default. Right,

2093
02:30:54.399 --> 02:31:01.719
it is. It is an attention
deficit issue and and and a dumbing down,

2094
02:31:01.799 --> 02:31:05.520
a deliberately deliberate dumbing down of the
people. And that's what I think

2095
02:31:05.639 --> 02:31:09.159
is going on here. And I
think it's fourth generation warfare. Fifth generation

2096
02:31:09.280 --> 02:31:13.319
warfare. It is a scio and
uh, and we need to all be

2097
02:31:13.440 --> 02:31:16.239
aware of this and try to try
to instruct our kids, you know,

2098
02:31:16.319 --> 02:31:20.079
sit them down and let them know
what's going on. And if they come

2099
02:31:20.120 --> 02:31:26.159
across this stuff, and they will
inevitably come across things like this and believe

2100
02:31:26.280 --> 02:31:30.639
it because they I mean, it's
it's just the way it is. We

2101
02:31:31.000 --> 02:31:33.840
have to like try to give them
all the information hope that they make up

2102
02:31:33.879 --> 02:31:39.879
their own minds and have intelligent rationales
behind their way their frame of thinking.

2103
02:31:41.440 --> 02:31:43.280
But I think that's the best we
can do right now. This is very

2104
02:31:43.479 --> 02:31:46.479
very very complicated, and we don't
know what's real and what's not anymore.

2105
02:31:48.760 --> 02:31:52.719
Well, here's an open question.
Was this inserted by intelligence as a poison

2106
02:31:52.840 --> 02:31:56.959
pill, as a virus to kill
TikTok is to say, oh, they're

2107
02:31:58.079 --> 02:32:03.200
radicalizing the youth. That's the oldest
trick that the establishment uses to get rid

2108
02:32:03.239 --> 02:32:07.319
of anybody thinking. That's what they
That's the excuse they used to kill Socrates.

2109
02:32:07.879 --> 02:32:11.639
He's corrupting the youth. If I
may, and then I'll throw it

2110
02:32:11.680 --> 02:32:20.559
to everybody else. They've led TikTok
and Instagram and other platforms like it be

2111
02:32:20.760 --> 02:32:26.639
the wild West that YouTube used to
be. They've let this happen. They've

2112
02:32:26.680 --> 02:32:31.680
been going after TikTok for how long
because of the Chinese thing or whatever that

2113
02:32:31.760 --> 02:32:35.879
it's a Chinese company and all this
other stuff, and they're spying on Americans.

2114
02:32:35.159 --> 02:32:39.200
But they allow all of this stuff
to go on because they want these

2115
02:32:39.280 --> 02:32:43.799
people to know whatever whatever's being put
out. They want to colonize the minds

2116
02:32:43.920 --> 02:32:46.440
of the young kids. That's what
they want to do. Otherwise they would

2117
02:32:46.440 --> 02:32:52.760
have shut this down already. Eventually
they're going to Eventually they'll be the restrictions

2118
02:32:52.799 --> 02:32:56.520
that they put on a YouTube,
on a TikTok, and on Instagram and

2119
02:32:56.719 --> 02:33:01.559
on Apple podcast, all of the
things that's going to happen. But right

2120
02:33:01.639 --> 02:33:07.719
now you could say that they're turning
a blind guy but we know better than

2121
02:33:07.799 --> 02:33:11.879
that. You know, if they've
shut down YouTube, what's what our free

2122
02:33:13.000 --> 02:33:16.959
speech anyway? On YouTube? If
they if they stopped any irrational not let

2123
02:33:18.000 --> 02:33:22.079
me say, if they stop people
from actually giving their thoughts whatever doesn't fit

2124
02:33:22.319 --> 02:33:26.399
the mainstream narrative. If they've stopped
that on YouTube, why haven't they stopped

2125
02:33:26.440 --> 02:33:28.920
it on everything else? And this
is a worldwide thing, by the way,

2126
02:33:28.559 --> 02:33:33.520
Okay, what why haven't they stopped
it on the other platforms? This

2127
02:33:33.719 --> 02:33:35.520
is on purpose in my opinion,
And they will, they will censor all

2128
02:33:35.559 --> 02:33:41.280
of this, but just not yet
because their goals haven't been completed, whatever

2129
02:33:41.319 --> 02:33:45.440
those goals are. Yeah, and
you go back to something David talks about

2130
02:33:45.479 --> 02:33:50.079
all the time. It was August
sixth, twenty eighteen, the real collusion

2131
02:33:50.360 --> 02:33:56.440
between the big tech censorship starting with
info Wars. But they followed in the

2132
02:33:56.680 --> 02:34:05.319
in the the later in the month
with eight hundred other sites that weren't necessarily

2133
02:34:05.000 --> 02:34:09.520
to the right or sharing much in
common with them for wars except one thing,

2134
02:34:11.239 --> 02:34:18.399
and they were They were anti and
skept their anti surveillance state, authoritarianism,

2135
02:34:18.600 --> 02:34:24.200
military industrial complex. Uh, they
were skeptical of the of the warfare

2136
02:34:24.319 --> 02:34:28.559
state. And I was simultaneous to
the proper not thing that came out later

2137
02:34:30.120 --> 02:34:33.799
where they there was propaganda or not. Was this organization I think tied to

2138
02:34:33.920 --> 02:34:37.840
a lot of the left wing Soros
type money and Podesta type people as well.

2139
02:34:41.360 --> 02:34:43.360
Yes, and that's that's a common
thing. And so Billy was mentioning

2140
02:34:43.440 --> 02:34:48.040
the you know, you got you
got TikTok and it's still the wild West

2141
02:34:48.079 --> 02:34:50.959
in so many ways. Do they
do the same thing that they did with

2142
02:34:50.079 --> 02:34:54.159
you. They got you on these
platforms, then you start talking, then

2143
02:34:54.200 --> 02:34:56.200
you start freely expressing yourself. Then
you you know, you create a handle

2144
02:34:56.280 --> 02:35:01.040
that expresses those views. Then they
have all of your dat and then they

2145
02:35:01.159 --> 02:35:05.399
just curate like Tim like Tim Cook
says, right, we're gonna curate.

2146
02:35:05.120 --> 02:35:09.600
We're gonna curate the experience. So
basically they get everybody over there, this

2147
02:35:09.760 --> 02:35:13.159
is the truth, you get on
it, and then they just remove these

2148
02:35:13.159 --> 02:35:18.000
accounts. So then they control the
narrative. It's it's kind of like a

2149
02:35:18.120 --> 02:35:22.719
keto, right, use the other
person's momentum against themselves. Very counterintuitive.

2150
02:35:22.000 --> 02:35:24.319
Plus they you know, they can
allow these things to be said and they

2151
02:35:24.360 --> 02:35:28.159
go, oh that was radical.
You realize they radicalize the youth. So

2152
02:35:28.239 --> 02:35:31.559
I don't. I'm thinking bigger pick. When I see headlines like this,

2153
02:35:31.719 --> 02:35:35.159
this is where my brain goes like
they're doing this isn't this is a message.

2154
02:35:37.000 --> 02:35:39.959
I'm gonna do another sweep around this
very esteam panel. And by the

2155
02:35:39.959 --> 02:35:45.680
way, thanks again guys for joining
me short notice, and thanks to David

2156
02:35:45.760 --> 02:35:48.600
Knight and David Knight family and the
crew and trusting me with this show since

2157
02:35:48.680 --> 02:35:54.239
twenty nineteen. It's a huge,
huge honor. I think about all that

2158
02:35:54.399 --> 02:36:01.799
David does for the truth and for
liberty and you know, fighting back against

2159
02:36:01.920 --> 02:36:05.040
I mean just the forces of darkness, folks, I mean it is.

2160
02:36:07.040 --> 02:36:11.959
We're living through the true expression of
the Chinese curse. May you live in

2161
02:36:11.079 --> 02:36:15.959
interesting times. We certainly are there, and I'm honored to be a part

2162
02:36:16.040 --> 02:36:20.760
of this program when I am needed, and I usually come on Thursdays and

2163
02:36:20.799 --> 02:36:24.040
talk a little bit of gold and
silver and bitcoin in the apocalypse with the

2164
02:36:24.079 --> 02:36:28.200
great David Knight himself. But I
haven't even plugged before we go around again

2165
02:36:28.399 --> 02:36:33.680
the Davidnightshow dot com. Folks,
share those links, get people involved,

2166
02:36:33.719 --> 02:36:37.520
sign up for the newsletter. You
know, support David. There's ways that

2167
02:36:37.600 --> 02:36:39.000
you can support him. You can
go to rumble and sign up for a

2168
02:36:39.600 --> 02:36:45.879
membership recurring. You can do direct
cash app. You know, all of

2169
02:36:45.920 --> 02:36:50.000
that is available. You can send
him a check. And I say that

2170
02:36:50.799 --> 02:36:52.959
because David doesn't plug enough for himself. He's just not that kind of guy.

2171
02:36:54.000 --> 02:36:58.399
I understand because I'll go obviously,
I'll even go on my own show

2172
02:36:58.440 --> 02:37:03.239
without plugging to my own detriment.
But please do that. And I've also

2173
02:37:03.319 --> 02:37:07.840
set up a website for David to
give him credit for any precious metals.

2174
02:37:07.360 --> 02:37:11.319
You know, Davidnight dot gold.
If you go to David Night dot gold,

2175
02:37:11.360 --> 02:37:13.319
you'd get in touch with me.
And that's why is Wolf gold and

2176
02:37:13.360 --> 02:37:16.639
silver. We've got the membership program
at wolf Pack. It's easy way to

2177
02:37:16.360 --> 02:37:20.520
set it and forget it and stack
gold and silver. You want to all

2178
02:37:20.600 --> 02:37:24.639
the stories that I didn't get to
today, like Walmart starting to sell gold.

2179
02:37:26.680 --> 02:37:28.639
Costco did one hundred million in gold
bars, ran out. I don't

2180
02:37:28.719 --> 02:37:31.120
run out by the way I can
supply you. You're going to go to

2181
02:37:31.159 --> 02:37:33.440
wise Wolf. I'm not gonna run
out like Costco. Plus, I can

2182
02:37:33.479 --> 02:37:39.840
lock your price in and you can
get out of this fiat currency system.

2183
02:37:39.879 --> 02:37:41.719
Deed allarization is real. All these
things are coming to it. We're in

2184
02:37:41.760 --> 02:37:46.639
a fourth turning, so it's great
that we have David at the Helm guiding

2185
02:37:46.719 --> 02:37:50.399
us through these perilous times. So
thanks everybody for joining and supporting the show.

2186
02:37:50.559 --> 02:37:54.159
So that'll be the last plug for
today. If I had plugged it

2187
02:37:54.200 --> 02:37:58.319
all, mister Anderson, any thoughts
on the discussion, I definitely wanted to

2188
02:38:00.159 --> 02:38:03.120
see if you had any more in
that brain of yours. Not much.

2189
02:38:03.600 --> 02:38:09.000
I'm scraping the barrel right now.
No, I agreed with your points,

2190
02:38:09.079 --> 02:38:11.600
Tony, and I just can keep
coming back to this idea of why do

2191
02:38:11.719 --> 02:38:18.239
they care so much to be more
than indifferent to this topic? And I

2192
02:38:18.360 --> 02:38:22.200
imagine they don't have all the information
or a lot of the information we have,

2193
02:38:22.600 --> 02:38:26.040
which is an assumption of mine.
But my mind goes off and says,

2194
02:38:26.159 --> 02:38:31.399
I doubt they know about the belfour
Declaration that was issued in nineteen seventeen,

2195
02:38:31.440 --> 02:38:35.159
which was a public statement regarding the
establishment of a national home for the

2196
02:38:35.200 --> 02:38:39.719
Jewish people in Palestine then, which
was an Ottoman region which had a Jewish

2197
02:38:39.799 --> 02:38:45.600
minority. And I bet they don't
know that that was issued to Lord Rothschild.

2198
02:38:46.360 --> 02:38:50.879
Lord Rothschild who went to Cambridge at
the same time what you know it

2199
02:38:50.959 --> 02:38:54.760
as Aleistair Crowley. Then Aleistair Crowley
is a topic of a very interesting book

2200
02:38:54.920 --> 02:39:00.360
by William Ramsay and how he relates
to nine to eleven in the New World

2201
02:39:00.520 --> 02:39:03.680
Order. So it just all comes
full circle to me. So I think

2202
02:39:03.760 --> 02:39:07.040
in general, you're right. It
just seems like a siop, Like if

2203
02:39:07.079 --> 02:39:13.879
I can give you minimum information,
can I still change your opinions in such

2204
02:39:13.920 --> 02:39:16.200
a severe way that you take this
position even though you don't have the full

2205
02:39:16.239 --> 02:39:22.000
information. So I like bringing the
bal for decoration in. We're getting we're

2206
02:39:22.000 --> 02:39:24.079
getting serious on our history here,
miss er. You can find miss Anderson

2207
02:39:24.079 --> 02:39:26.719
as a co host. I had
to do a plug for William Ramsey.

2208
02:39:26.799 --> 02:39:30.520
You know, well, he just
deserving of one. If i'd have done,

2209
02:39:30.559 --> 02:39:33.440
if I had hosted two days,
i'd have had him on. I

2210
02:39:33.600 --> 02:39:35.479
talked to him about coming next next
time. I will bring William Ramsey on,

2211
02:39:35.600 --> 02:39:39.959
folks. I just didn't have enough
notice for him. Yeah, great,

2212
02:39:39.040 --> 02:39:41.799
great points though in some good history. This is this is you know,

2213
02:39:43.360 --> 02:39:45.719
it's the history. You don't know. There's nothing new under the sun

2214
02:39:45.799 --> 02:39:48.200
except the history. You don't know. To channel the thirty third President of

2215
02:39:48.200 --> 02:39:54.159
the United States, Harry Truman,
Charlie, any any final thoughts on on

2216
02:39:54.319 --> 02:39:58.479
this topic, and maybe we'll do
a little round robin here to round out

2217
02:39:58.520 --> 02:40:01.319
the show. I'm still hung up
on the fact that you are the Ron

2218
02:40:01.440 --> 02:40:05.879
po Peel of gold and silver,
the set it and forget it, just

2219
02:40:05.959 --> 02:40:11.719
waiting for your pocket fishermen. You
know, listen, sham wow guy.

2220
02:40:11.799 --> 02:40:20.600
Just for the record, I'm the
sham Wow precious metal. That this brings

2221
02:40:20.680 --> 02:40:28.360
me back to Yuri Besmanov of course, in this concept of ideological subversion and

2222
02:40:28.479 --> 02:40:35.000
how it's a process and how it
takes twenty years and it's cumulative, and

2223
02:40:35.120 --> 02:40:41.440
you wonder about all of this stuff, how this next generation is being educated

2224
02:40:41.520 --> 02:40:46.600
or miseducated or dis educated however you
want to look at it. And this

2225
02:40:46.840 --> 02:40:50.479
is all kind of part of it, the new tech version of this,

2226
02:40:50.879 --> 02:40:54.600
and it starts to it makes me
think like this is the softening up of

2227
02:40:54.719 --> 02:40:58.280
the minds of an entire generation,
TikTok generation now. And if you give

2228
02:40:58.319 --> 02:41:03.120
it twenty years and then another five
years of destruction, and then you add

2229
02:41:03.159 --> 02:41:07.440
a six week crisis, you break
the brains of these people and you send

2230
02:41:07.520 --> 02:41:13.600
them off into what he describes as
the fourth stage. Normalization. And so

2231
02:41:15.280 --> 02:41:20.120
it's interesting to watch it. I
mean, it's it's scary and hilarious and

2232
02:41:20.200 --> 02:41:22.760
all those things too, but from
like a like a like a guy with

2233
02:41:22.879 --> 02:41:26.760
a clipboard and a white lab coat, and you just kind of watching this

2234
02:41:26.879 --> 02:41:28.639
going, oh, I see where
you guys are going with this is we're

2235
02:41:28.680 --> 02:41:31.959
still in the ideological subversion of this
group. Great, okay, great,

2236
02:41:33.000 --> 02:41:35.959
get them to believe nonsense and okay, yeah, and then and like you

2237
02:41:37.000 --> 02:41:39.159
said, it'll just kind of disappear. Right, we don't know the criteria

2238
02:41:39.319 --> 02:41:43.360
necessarily. You mentioned a thousand people
entered from that'll be that's nothing. So

2239
02:41:45.000 --> 02:41:46.920
you've got TikTok, right, you
can't you reach like a million people?

2240
02:41:48.120 --> 02:41:50.799
Can we do this with a million
people? Do a million people think this?

2241
02:41:50.360 --> 02:41:58.120
So it's it feels artificial, like
it's made to have. It feels

2242
02:41:58.159 --> 02:42:01.360
like they're testing to see what I
mean. Obviously we know got into the

2243
02:42:01.440 --> 02:42:05.799
news cycle. If it got into
the news cycle by default, there's something

2244
02:42:05.879 --> 02:42:11.360
wrong with it. So it feels
very very made to happen. Let us

2245
02:42:11.399 --> 02:42:16.079
see what their results are to this. But also, Tony, to your

2246
02:42:16.159 --> 02:42:24.399
point, what a perfect cul de
sac to put some cheese at the end.

2247
02:42:24.479 --> 02:42:28.360
Of lure a bunch of people in
and then write down their license plates,

2248
02:42:28.520 --> 02:42:31.319
you know what I mean, like
who went for the cheese? All

2249
02:42:31.360 --> 02:42:33.000
these Okay, let's make a note
of the let's keep an eye on these

2250
02:42:33.000 --> 02:42:39.719
people in the future. So it's
sorting, you know, you feel like

2251
02:42:39.799 --> 02:42:43.799
a sorting process of this, and
you feel intelligence ties to it as well.

2252
02:42:43.959 --> 02:42:48.520
Like Billy said, they want TikTok
to go away, they turn the

2253
02:42:48.520 --> 02:42:54.520
switch. It's a different version of
it, but it's serving a purpose right

2254
02:42:54.600 --> 02:42:58.079
now. It's giving them a lot
of information as to who's using it and

2255
02:42:58.559 --> 02:43:01.680
what they're demographic is, and how
do they think, and what are they

2256
02:43:01.959 --> 02:43:05.840
like? And they're building a digital
voodoo doll of all these people on TikTok

2257
02:43:05.920 --> 02:43:09.760
and elsewhere, of course not limited
to TikTok, and they're figuring out,

2258
02:43:11.840 --> 02:43:13.760
you know, your digital twin,
what do you like, what are you

2259
02:43:13.879 --> 02:43:16.479
into? What do you follow?
Who are you? Should we be worried

2260
02:43:16.520 --> 02:43:18.559
about you? Are you the type
of person that's going to write? Are

2261
02:43:18.600 --> 02:43:22.159
you the type person that's going to
have a problem with the surveillance state?

2262
02:43:22.680 --> 02:43:28.399
You know? So, so it's
a good mechanism for them to, you

2263
02:43:28.479 --> 02:43:31.440
know, before they turn the switch
and make sure that you don't ever see

2264
02:43:31.479 --> 02:43:37.440
anything of relevancy on TikTok. It's
a good way in the early stages of

2265
02:43:37.600 --> 02:43:43.159
gathering information about who is actually consuming
this information and then putting them in some

2266
02:43:43.399 --> 02:43:48.840
sort of matrix where they can be
followed for the next generation to see see

2267
02:43:48.879 --> 02:43:52.159
what they think, see how they
think, and what they what they're into.

2268
02:43:52.840 --> 02:43:58.959
So, I don't you know,
I think, as we all agree,

2269
02:43:58.159 --> 02:44:03.399
it's multi layer air here. There's
a lot going on, and to

2270
02:44:03.520 --> 02:44:07.680
me, it feels like some sort
of ideological trap that maybe some of these

2271
02:44:07.680 --> 02:44:11.840
people were walking into that they're going
to get themselves on some lists that they

2272
02:44:11.879 --> 02:44:15.040
didn't even know existed. So we'll
keep an eye on it. We'll see

2273
02:44:15.360 --> 02:44:18.719
where it goes in the new year. Do you see the trend continuing where

2274
02:44:18.760 --> 02:44:26.879
we're going to be looking at future
years having to deal with this state constructed

2275
02:44:26.000 --> 02:44:30.200
narrative of what terrorism is. You
think we're going to bring this back?

2276
02:44:30.760 --> 02:44:33.000
Yeah, it feels like, I
mean, we're already starting to see the

2277
02:44:35.200 --> 02:44:41.159
labeling of the largest threat to America
is white national domestic terrorism, right,

2278
02:44:41.360 --> 02:44:48.159
and so that terrorism catch all term
has been very successful for a long long

2279
02:44:48.239 --> 02:44:52.680
time, But now Unfortunately, it's
now taking on more of a legal definition.

2280
02:44:52.159 --> 02:44:58.120
Now, if you're legally defined as
being a terrorist, you are now

2281
02:44:58.159 --> 02:45:03.000
a terrorist up on the homeland,
and the homeland is a battlefield, and

2282
02:45:03.079 --> 02:45:07.719
now you have no rights. So
again, it's all fun in games when

2283
02:45:07.760 --> 02:45:11.479
you're slurring and calling Trump a terrorist
or calling your neighbor a terrorist or whatever.

2284
02:45:13.200 --> 02:45:16.000
But there's also a legal component to
this as well. When you get

2285
02:45:16.040 --> 02:45:20.959
that domestic terrorist label slapped on you, legally, you have no rights anymore.

2286
02:45:22.719 --> 02:45:26.719
Good luck, you're you know,
you disappear. So I think that

2287
02:45:26.879 --> 02:45:31.520
this is a this is a term, this terrorism. It's so broad that

2288
02:45:31.680 --> 02:45:35.959
it can be applied to all kinds
of things. It's the perfect sort of

2289
02:45:35.000 --> 02:45:39.959
apparatus for the state to use to
go after people that can just mold it

2290
02:45:39.079 --> 02:45:41.840
like silly petty to whatever they want
it to fit. They want it to

2291
02:45:41.920 --> 02:45:46.479
fit you, it'll fit, it'll
fit describing you as song as we just

2292
02:45:46.600 --> 02:45:52.719
go back through your TikTok viewing history
in your Facebook posts and your Twitter feed,

2293
02:45:52.959 --> 02:45:56.840
and we find out and we build
a case retroactively like Snowden talked about,

2294
02:45:58.319 --> 02:46:01.760
to see what you were talking about
in the past, and then that

2295
02:46:01.040 --> 02:46:05.000
bolsters the case that they're making that
you are now legally a domestic terrorist.

2296
02:46:05.040 --> 02:46:07.559
Of course you are. Look at
all these things that you said about the

2297
02:46:07.600 --> 02:46:16.360
government back in twenty nineteen. Amazing, folks, you're watching someone who's very

2298
02:46:16.520 --> 02:46:18.760
much mastered their craft. This is
Charlie Robinson. I have the pleasure of

2299
02:46:18.840 --> 02:46:22.200
talking to this gentleman often. He's
got a great show called Macroaggressions, and

2300
02:46:22.840 --> 02:46:28.280
I love that breakdown. What do
you call five conspiracy theorists who get together

2301
02:46:28.360 --> 02:46:30.799
on a live panel? What is
that? The news? Is that?

2302
02:46:30.879 --> 02:46:35.239
What the news? Thanks so much
for that analysis, Charlie, very smart

2303
02:46:35.280 --> 02:46:41.280
as always. Guard final thoughts on
this as we kareene into the last hour

2304
02:46:41.399 --> 02:46:46.280
of the last show of the David
Knight Show of twenty twenty three. Yeah,

2305
02:46:46.479 --> 02:46:50.159
and it's so great to be here
all with you guys. And I

2306
02:46:50.239 --> 02:46:52.440
think what we would call it is
non existent in the eyes of the CIA,

2307
02:46:52.680 --> 02:46:56.520
So let's just keep that in mind. We just don't exist, or

2308
02:46:56.600 --> 02:47:01.440
maybe we all are. But if
I may, may I pose a question

2309
02:47:01.600 --> 02:47:03.959
to you all to see because I've
been sort of you know, I've been

2310
02:47:05.040 --> 02:47:09.559
ruminating on this, letting the letting
the fruit stew in my head. The

2311
02:47:09.680 --> 02:47:18.959
fruiting bodies the fun guy. What
if the release of the Midladen document or

2312
02:47:18.079 --> 02:47:26.360
the promotion of this was done as
a way to within the larger narrative book

2313
02:47:26.360 --> 02:47:35.399
to turn to a new chapter in
the narrative of switching things over to labeling

2314
02:47:35.520 --> 02:47:41.600
everyone an anti Semite. Now you
are suddenly affected by the bin Laden document,

2315
02:47:41.639 --> 02:47:48.760
This large percentage of gen Zers suddenly
are praising a hero of bin Laden.

2316
02:47:48.840 --> 02:47:52.360
Well, you don't have to call
him a hero, you just say

2317
02:47:52.520 --> 02:47:58.239
what did his argument actually contain any
valid points? What did what did you

2318
02:47:58.360 --> 02:48:03.280
discover? That very term monology itself
is pretty darn weighted. But then we

2319
02:48:03.399 --> 02:48:09.479
see with what hacked in on October
seventh? And did did Did the Israelis

2320
02:48:09.520 --> 02:48:11.000
know about it? Well, they
did have fore knowledge. Did they know

2321
02:48:11.079 --> 02:48:16.360
about the date? We don't know. But and this is just pure speculation.

2322
02:48:16.639 --> 02:48:20.000
I could be way off base here, but I do get a sense

2323
02:48:20.079 --> 02:48:26.040
now just talking with you all,
what if this were used to now they're

2324
02:48:26.120 --> 02:48:28.360
no longer We're not hearing about black
lives matter as much, we're not hearing

2325
02:48:28.360 --> 02:48:33.799
about this, We're not hearing about
that. We've got this swing towards,

2326
02:48:33.639 --> 02:48:41.639
especially with the immigration thing, towards
this now international white nationalist United States.

2327
02:48:41.600 --> 02:48:46.040
And you don't like Israeli either,
your anti Semitic sort of thing, and

2328
02:48:46.319 --> 02:48:50.319
you read the bin Laden document.
So therefore we're gonna have to watch out

2329
02:48:50.360 --> 02:48:54.399
for you. It's the new war
on terror and now it's Iran. I

2330
02:48:54.719 --> 02:48:58.639
just don't know, and I'm just
thrown out out there because I'm just thinking

2331
02:48:58.680 --> 02:49:03.000
to my you know, I'm thinking
of my off obviously thinking is that is

2332
02:49:03.040 --> 02:49:07.319
that within the realm of possibility?
Or am I just speculating too much?

2333
02:49:07.040 --> 02:49:11.520
Well, it's very it's a very
powerful weapon. Uh. You go back

2334
02:49:11.559 --> 02:49:16.200
to the Gulf War. Pat Buchanan
was on the McLaughlin group, and he

2335
02:49:16.360 --> 02:49:18.159
just happened to mention the fact that, you know, if we go to

2336
02:49:18.280 --> 02:49:22.920
war in the Gulf, it's not
going to be you know, the coastal

2337
02:49:22.000 --> 02:49:26.920
elites kids, It's going to be
people from the heartland. And I think

2338
02:49:26.959 --> 02:49:30.079
he said it's gonna be guys named
Leroy Brown and stuff like. It's not

2339
02:49:30.159 --> 02:49:33.079
going to be uh, you know, some coastal elites, kid. And

2340
02:49:33.360 --> 02:49:37.239
he said, the only people that
really want this war the military Industrial Complex

2341
02:49:37.280 --> 02:49:41.040
and their amen corner and APAC,
which is the American Israeli Political Action Committee

2342
02:49:41.120 --> 02:49:46.920
or whatever they are. He was
vilified for that. That seems quaint now,

2343
02:49:46.440 --> 02:49:48.799
but that was that was you know, that was the original, like,

2344
02:49:48.920 --> 02:49:52.440
oh, you're just anti Semitic,
so that that could blanket term.

2345
02:49:52.520 --> 02:49:56.200
They use that all the time.
Now it's ad nauseum. I think it

2346
02:49:56.559 --> 02:50:01.000
you talk about real blowback. The
blowback is they've used that term and they're

2347
02:50:01.239 --> 02:50:05.079
using it into oblivion. It no
longer has really any relevance anymore. It's

2348
02:50:05.120 --> 02:50:09.040
not even about the true meaning of
what's supposed to be anti Semitics. So

2349
02:50:09.319 --> 02:50:11.319
I think I think you're right,
though, Guard. I mean, it

2350
02:50:13.360 --> 02:50:20.879
definitely gives them a short term strategy
to any any movement that's anti war or

2351
02:50:20.920 --> 02:50:28.360
anti state or anti narrative. They
can delegitimize that by calling an anti Semitic

2352
02:50:28.399 --> 02:50:31.680
and lumping it into one thing.
And this kind of gets them an early

2353
02:50:31.840 --> 02:50:37.520
start. And they may have run
this simulation with the Pentagon. Again,

2354
02:50:37.840 --> 02:50:41.840
this hasn't been more than two or
three years where the Pentagon was concerned and

2355
02:50:41.959 --> 02:50:48.600
running running a war game against a
gen Z Bitcoin revolt and gen Z you

2356
02:50:48.680 --> 02:50:52.840
know, unplugging. Speaking of unplugging, this still just I don't want to

2357
02:50:54.000 --> 02:50:58.319
not hear what Billy has to say
as we as we close out the last

2358
02:50:58.399 --> 02:51:01.440
hour of the last show of twenty
twenty three, Billy, ray your thoughts

2359
02:51:03.159 --> 02:51:07.559
big picture that siop and you've pretty
much given them. You got anything that

2360
02:51:07.399 --> 02:51:13.879
that you want to discuss related to
this before we close? I gotta turn

2361
02:51:13.920 --> 02:51:18.680
your mic on, bud Uh can
you here? You go? All right

2362
02:51:18.920 --> 02:51:22.399
now? Pretty much? This is
what it is. This is what it

2363
02:51:22.520 --> 02:51:24.360
is, and this is what people
need to need to really take seriously.

2364
02:51:26.639 --> 02:51:31.639
There are only two real conspiracies that
I can think of. Everything else is

2365
02:51:31.799 --> 02:51:37.079
utter nonsense, right and and and
I mean it, it is utter nonsense.

2366
02:51:37.200 --> 02:51:39.639
It might it might be surrounded by
truth, but most of it is

2367
02:51:39.719 --> 02:51:46.760
nonsense. But the mind control is
real. That is real, and they're

2368
02:51:46.840 --> 02:51:50.719
doing it through the social media.
And there's no mistake. I do think

2369
02:51:50.799 --> 02:51:54.159
I forget who mentioned it on the
panel, but I do think this is

2370
02:51:54.200 --> 02:52:00.639
gonna go away as this bin laden
story itself, I think it it'll uh,

2371
02:52:01.200 --> 02:52:03.799
it'll play its its part and and
and run and and go away largely,

2372
02:52:03.920 --> 02:52:13.079
but it does play into a larger, a larger arena where younger people

2373
02:52:13.239 --> 02:52:20.520
are changing the way they think and
the culture creators the people who wage a

2374
02:52:20.600 --> 02:52:26.319
fifth generation warfare on us, right, they're they're very aware of how to

2375
02:52:26.440 --> 02:52:31.559
manipulate those minds and how to colonize
those minds through social media. That is

2376
02:52:31.719 --> 02:52:35.239
mind control. If people think of
mind control as sitting on a chair and

2377
02:52:35.600 --> 02:52:41.000
and having a pendulum swim back and
forth in front of their eyes, and

2378
02:52:41.639 --> 02:52:46.200
or being being taken into some site
and and then they do a Kanye West

2379
02:52:46.280 --> 02:52:50.399
on you know, no like mind
control comes straight out of your computer,

2380
02:52:50.840 --> 02:52:54.840
it comes straight out of your cell
phone, straight out of your television.

2381
02:52:56.000 --> 02:53:00.079
That is mind control. And this
is what's going on here. Admittedly it

2382
02:53:00.159 --> 02:53:03.440
can be proving and uh, and
this is what we need to look forward

2383
02:53:03.479 --> 02:53:07.639
to. And this is what we
need to turn our attention to and and

2384
02:53:07.040 --> 02:53:11.639
and zero in on if we're gonna
make any headway, because it's gonna it's

2385
02:53:11.680 --> 02:53:16.040
gonna become it's already dark, it's
gonna become even darker, harder and harder

2386
02:53:16.120 --> 02:53:20.639
to navigate the waters and to see
what's real and what's not right. And

2387
02:53:20.760 --> 02:53:24.680
and to the point that I forget
which I think was you, Tony or

2388
02:53:24.719 --> 02:53:26.920
mister Anderson that brought it up,
that that, uh, they had to

2389
02:53:28.000 --> 02:53:31.200
put out a memo to see which
which siop was real or not, which

2390
02:53:31.239 --> 02:53:33.920
is probably a scio too. I
don't right at this point, it's like

2391
02:53:35.239 --> 02:53:39.280
what is real? And why are
they doing it? You know, if

2392
02:53:39.360 --> 02:53:41.520
if? And And what turned me
on to it is going back to the

2393
02:53:41.799 --> 02:53:50.360
to the twenty sixteen election, how
many fake profiles were were were created in

2394
02:53:50.559 --> 02:53:54.319
order to on Twitter, you know, and on Facebook in order to to

2395
02:53:54.559 --> 02:54:01.280
uh mold perception and get people to
cast their it's in a particular way,

2396
02:54:01.120 --> 02:54:03.840
you know. And and that hasn't
changed in my opinion. You know,

2397
02:54:05.040 --> 02:54:07.079
well it's not. It hasn't changed. It's only gonna get worse, It's

2398
02:54:07.079 --> 02:54:09.200
what I mean. So that's what
we need to look forward to in twenty

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02:54:09.280 --> 02:54:13.360
twenty four, more of that,
and we we can't let ourselves be suckered

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02:54:13.399 --> 02:54:18.440
in by it, even though it
is incredibly difficult to not be engaged by

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02:54:18.520 --> 02:54:22.079
it and not be brought in by
it because they pull on your emotions.

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02:54:24.000 --> 02:54:28.000
And when they pull on your emotions, they've got you, because your emotions

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02:54:28.040 --> 02:54:31.040
are fully involved in it, and
that's it. They've totally got you.

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02:54:31.120 --> 02:54:33.760
So it's very difficult to disengage.
But that's it. He was he going

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02:54:35.040 --> 02:54:39.639
as I had to let my crew
and Wise Wolf was about to open here

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02:54:39.719 --> 02:54:43.479
in Brands and so my crew was
needing to get let in. That's agree.

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02:54:43.680 --> 02:54:48.479
I agree with you on setting the
stage to colonize them mind. That's

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02:54:48.520 --> 02:54:50.799
what that was the that's what really
grabbed me and you and I Billy.

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02:54:50.840 --> 02:54:54.000
I think it was last year at
this time, we were on the David

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02:54:54.079 --> 02:55:00.520
Knight Show and we're talking about that
famous, uh infamous. It was that

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02:55:00.840 --> 02:55:05.040
commercial that was put out by the
Army Psychological Operations Units. And I think

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02:55:05.120 --> 02:55:09.319
even you use some of that in
the freeworld dot FM site where it has

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02:55:09.360 --> 02:55:13.040
a little ghost, the ghost in
the machine. It's like we can we

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02:55:13.479 --> 02:55:18.719
create the reality. And that that's
that's so important for people to realize,

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02:55:18.799 --> 02:55:22.639
like, you know, think thinking
for yourself. It's something that the late

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02:55:22.719 --> 02:55:26.840
great Bill Cooper said, you know, over and over do your own research.

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02:55:26.000 --> 02:55:28.040
You have to go deeper. You
have to think, you know,

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02:55:28.200 --> 02:55:31.920
and step back and look at the
big picture and ask yourself, am I

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02:55:33.000 --> 02:55:37.799
call is my mind colonized? I'm
sure it is on many levels. That's

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02:55:37.840 --> 02:55:39.680
why it's so important to have alternative
media. And then you know, the

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02:55:41.239 --> 02:55:43.239
crew right here, look at this
this panel that I'm on right now.

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02:55:43.319 --> 02:55:50.559
What is just an absolute honor the
great researchers, great thinkers, not not

2423
02:55:50.680 --> 02:55:56.520
a grifter one here the anti grifting
zone. I was thinking, with it

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02:55:56.600 --> 02:56:01.360
being the close of the year,
we should end on some and positive motivational

2425
02:56:01.239 --> 02:56:03.639
So I was going to run this
one by you. I don't know if

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02:56:03.639 --> 02:56:07.799
you've heard it, but it's something
like shoot for the moon because even if

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02:56:07.840 --> 02:56:11.600
you miss, you'll just puncture the
projection screen because the Earth is flat.

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02:56:18.799 --> 02:56:22.639
Just for a minute, just for
one, just for a split second.

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02:56:22.719 --> 02:56:28.399
Actually, I thought you were really
gonna do for like water cooler poster in

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02:56:28.520 --> 02:56:31.360
a corporate hell hole, you know, I thought you were really going to

2431
02:56:31.399 --> 02:56:33.879
do that, mister Anderson. All
right, we got like I gotta do

2432
02:56:35.000 --> 02:56:37.959
really quick, folks, Just guys
on the panel. Tell people where they

2433
02:56:37.959 --> 02:56:39.760
can find you. Miss Anderson doesn't
want to be found. You can find

2434
02:56:39.799 --> 02:56:43.840
them on Paratruther. Charlie, go
ahead, tell people where they can find

2435
02:56:43.319 --> 02:56:48.840
The new website is up and running
Macroaggressions dot Io. You can go there.

2436
02:56:48.959 --> 02:56:52.959
You can find all of the information
about my show Flashback Friday episode today

2437
02:56:54.000 --> 02:56:56.520
that went out is where did all
the people go? That was the number

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02:56:56.600 --> 02:57:03.840
one downloaded Macro Aggressions episode of a
time. That's a good rabbit hole.

2439
02:57:03.879 --> 02:57:05.319
If people are interested in doing that, you can follow me on Twitter at

2440
02:57:05.399 --> 02:57:11.159
Macroaggressions. Thanks Tom, love it, God go ahead. Well, first

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02:57:11.200 --> 02:57:13.120
off, big thanks, I noticed
a bunch of people in the rockfinchat I

2442
02:57:13.120 --> 02:57:16.520
haven't been able to check out rumble
chat, but thanks for all the contributions

2443
02:57:16.639 --> 02:57:20.559
for the show today and Tony,
thanks for letting me join you on this

2444
02:57:20.760 --> 02:57:24.079
last show of the day, last
show of the year, and it's great

2445
02:57:24.120 --> 02:57:28.319
to be here with all of you
guys. Folks want to find me Liberty

2446
02:57:28.399 --> 02:57:33.000
Conspiracy on Rumble and Rockfin every night
six o'clock Eastern and check us out.

2447
02:57:33.000 --> 02:57:37.440
We're on for about ninety minutes.
I do my work also for MRCTV a

2448
02:57:37.520 --> 02:57:41.559
couple a couple videos and three articles
a week. Go to mrctv dot org

2449
02:57:41.639 --> 02:57:46.040
or check out their rumble, check
out their YouTube, and then Gardner Goldsmith

2450
02:57:46.079 --> 02:57:50.879
substack. One of the big deals
maybe people might like is every Sunday we

2451
02:57:50.959 --> 02:57:56.040
have the Sunday News Assembly and there's
at least twenty stories that pertain to liberty,

2452
02:57:56.120 --> 02:58:00.399
plus a bunch of contextual information that
might allow us to take away some

2453
02:58:00.959 --> 02:58:03.840
longer term learning about freedom, economics, ethics, stuff like that. So

2454
02:58:03.959 --> 02:58:07.399
that's over at stub substack and it's
Gardner g R d n e R.

2455
02:58:07.840 --> 02:58:13.559
So yeah, just visit, say
hi, uh, say ny, whatever

2456
02:58:13.600 --> 02:58:16.799
you want to say. I'd love
to see it. And I really really

2457
02:58:16.879 --> 02:58:18.920
am so glad to be here with
you, Tony and all you you find

2458
02:58:20.000 --> 02:58:22.799
cats says they shuffle us off to
prison very soon. I want to be

2459
02:58:22.840 --> 02:58:28.159
in the same THEMA camp. It'll
be interesting. Billy Ray closing thoughts where

2460
02:58:28.200 --> 02:58:31.959
they can find you all that good
stuff you got about the Infinite Fringe on

2461
02:58:31.040 --> 02:58:35.840
Apple Podcasts. Find me there.
Well, that's very well. And he's

2462
02:58:35.879 --> 02:58:37.959
the host of America and Plug Folks, so you gotta find him on on

2463
02:58:39.120 --> 02:58:43.440
rockfin r okay f i N dot
com, America and Plug Channel the Infinite

2464
02:58:43.479 --> 02:58:46.159
Fringe podcast. We're going to be
putting together a UFO podcast here pretty soon.

2465
02:58:46.200 --> 02:58:50.360
Mister Anderson will join that. We'll
see if we can find some others

2466
02:58:50.399 --> 02:58:54.319
to join that discussion. That'll be
fun. That that's Paratruther. You can

2467
02:58:54.360 --> 02:58:58.840
find me at Ardeburn dot News and
of course Wisewolfgoldensilver dot com. But use

2468
02:58:58.959 --> 02:59:03.200
David Knight Dot Gold of David the
credit. We certainly want to support this

2469
02:59:03.600 --> 02:59:07.440
magnificent program. David will be back
all new shows the whole new year,

2470
02:59:07.079 --> 02:59:11.840
So I want to wish everyone a
happy new year. It has been wow.

2471
02:59:13.000 --> 02:59:15.280
I mean I look back twenty twenty
three, all the shows that I've

2472
02:59:15.319 --> 02:59:18.520
done over here on The David Night
Show, my own productions, and just

2473
02:59:18.639 --> 02:59:24.319
trying to trying to make sense out
of all of this has been an extraordinary

2474
02:59:24.440 --> 02:59:26.680
task. And luckily I've got look
at the people I can call upon.

2475
02:59:26.959 --> 02:59:31.520
I'm a very fortunate individual. If
I want to find out what's going on,

2476
02:59:31.559 --> 02:59:39.040
I'm going to play the outro music
here, and I am again honored

2477
02:59:39.120 --> 02:59:43.399
to be here. It's such a
great experience. I'll be back maybe next

2478
02:59:43.479 --> 02:59:48.159
Thursday. See you all about to
bully on bitcoin the Apocalypse. We'll talk

2479
02:59:48.200 --> 02:59:52.120
that with the Great David Knight.
All Right, Happy New Year, folks,

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02:59:52.920 --> 02:59:54.959
Appreciate you. End of transmission