1 00:00:01,399 --> 00:00:05,400 I was listening to the story about It was the story of a family in 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,839 Washington and the little boy called the big Foot the cowboy man, and he 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,800 had apparently it had made an effort to steal this kid. And it hit 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:20,039 me. My children were in that play. Him behind me, Well, 5 00:00:20,199 --> 00:00:24,920 nothing but a mosquito net over them. It could have crept up behind me 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:34,320 and taken both of my children and I wouldn't know. His father just got 7 00:00:34,359 --> 00:00:38,359 like a mustang or something. Whyoming Okay, he had it out in the 8 00:00:38,439 --> 00:00:41,799 corral because he couldn't put it in the barn with the in the stalls, 9 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,920 with the other horses that would kick and made all the other ones is nervous 10 00:00:45,119 --> 00:00:48,520 at a seminal Indian working the horse, trying to break it. Every day 11 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:52,560 they had it out in the carrawl. This skunk game snuck up behind his 12 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:57,799 horse and grabbed it bonnets, hind quarters. This particular horse kicks out, 13 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,280 jumps over the corral, runs into the pat you know, to get away. 14 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,719 At this point, the ranchers out there just blessed away with the thirty 15 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:11,439 thirty skunk gave blends into the swamp. I went up there one day after 16 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:14,879 that or two days after that, I went up there and sat in the 17 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,599 silence up there, and I'm telling you, man, it was free. 18 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:22,239 It was crazy, you know it was. There was a crazy vibe up 19 00:01:22,239 --> 00:01:25,239 there. Still. I did what I could to kind of get things under 20 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,560 control. But I told her, I said, you didn't even get off 21 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,280 this problem. I feel like, no matter how strong you are, it's 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,719 almost like standing in the ocean, you can't stand still without moving your feet. 23 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,120 You're gonna get knocked over eventually. No matter how strong whatever, you 24 00:01:38,439 --> 00:01:49,439 can't withstand a barrage of a weird spiritual energy. Hey, what's up, 25 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,680 everybody, it's Wayne. Welcome back to your paranormal odyssey, guys. I 26 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,599 thought we would try something a little different on this episode. I was actually 27 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,840 the guest over on space Out Radio. I guess it's about a month ago 28 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,479 with Miss Jessica Jones, the Cryptid Huntress. I had her on this show 29 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:13,280 for a couple of episodes, and she invited me to come over to spaced 30 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,960 Out Radio and do an interview with her, and I had just a really, 31 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:22,120 really good time. Jessica is It's a great person. She does a 32 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,280 lot for the big book community, and she's always out in the field, 33 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:30,520 you know, putting in those hours and it was just really really fun getting 34 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,879 to sit down and talk to her. It was different getting to be the 35 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,039 person interview instead of the person asking the questions. So it's got it'd be 36 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:45,120 cool to bring that to you, guys. 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All right, guys, 55 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,199 that's a n up of all of that. I know that you were 56 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:30,199 ready. I am ready. Let's get started. Wayne Sothrow is the host 57 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,399 of the Paranormal Odyssey podcast as well as the founder and president of Manimal Research, 58 00:04:34,519 --> 00:04:41,279 a small sasquatch research organization based out of Southeast Tennessee. Manimal was formed 59 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:46,720 in twenty nineteen, and Wayne has led many field investigations in the years since 60 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:53,600 starting has uncovered some interesting evidence along the way. Okay also, Wayno was 61 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,560 approached in twenty twenty two to take over the hosting duties of the Paranormal Odyssey 62 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,519 podcast after hosting his own YouTube chan on the subject of big footsis twenty twenty. 63 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,000 He's well respected in the community and clearly displays a passion for the subject. 64 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,959 And I'm gonna get my act together here y'all and please help me. 65 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:17,240 Welcome to the show tonight, my buddy, Wayne. What's up? Wayne? 66 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,920 I think I'm doing you have been tonight? Yes, you know what. 67 00:05:23,079 --> 00:05:27,800 I just did a podcast like right before the show and it completely I 68 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,959 think it like overheated my computer or something. I'm not sure what happened. 69 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,240 So yeah, I feel like I'm juggling a bunch of plates right now. 70 00:05:33,439 --> 00:05:38,240 That's what I'm doing. But it's so good to have you here. Thank 71 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,879 you so very much. You're you're handling it well, Oh my god, 72 00:05:42,079 --> 00:05:45,199 thank you, thank you. I'm just a bill hot mess. I'm just 73 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:46,959 glad that I made it on air tonight. That's all I'm worried about. 74 00:05:47,519 --> 00:05:50,920 And so it doesn't matter if I'm sweating bullets. It's okay. We're gonna 75 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,759 get through this because we're having a good time. We always have a good 76 00:05:54,759 --> 00:05:57,959 time here at Space Out Radio. Actually, and Wayne, I had a 77 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,759 really good time hanging out with you on your show. We just did a 78 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:06,319 two part series okay on over at Paranormal odyssey. So tell my audience a 79 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:12,600 little bit about your your podcast and uh and kind of let's let's talk about 80 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,680 how you got into big footing a little bit too, all right, Well, 81 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,480 which one you want to jump into first? Because I got into the 82 00:06:18,759 --> 00:06:24,519 big footing first, so you'll start there. Absolutely, let's go with the 83 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,959 big footing first because you actually research some of the areas that I researched with 84 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:34,959 my team. Yeah, it was back in twenty nineteen. I've always had 85 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:40,959 a livelong interest in cryptids and mainly you know, big bootis king. You 86 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,920 know, he's the top dog went when you talk about cryptids, and always 87 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,160 had an interest in you know, when I was a kid, get to 88 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,959 go to the library once a week and check out a book or a couple 89 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,839 of books and keep those for a week, and then you come back and 90 00:06:53,879 --> 00:06:55,920 you put them, you know, turn them in and get another book. 91 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,439 And I was always checking out anything on cryptids that I could find. Bigot 92 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,000 locking this monster at Troup of Carboro, you know, all that good stuff. 93 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,160 But like I said, big Boot was king, and back in two 94 00:07:06,199 --> 00:07:13,399 thousand and nineteen, I was working a job about an hour from my house, 95 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,639 about fifty five minute drive there, and then a fifty five minute drive 96 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,759 back and my car went down, so I had to put it in the 97 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:26,399 shop, and I borrowed an extra pickup truck from my dad. So I'm 98 00:07:26,439 --> 00:07:29,639 driving this no truck his truck back and forth to work. And the second 99 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,800 day I have his truck, the radio goes out. I'm like, what 100 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:38,560 the heck? Two hours a day driving with nothing to listen to. That's 101 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:44,800 when I discovered podcasts. So I started listening to a cryptid podcasts and I 102 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:47,600 loved it. I was just I was hooked. But I kept finding myself 103 00:07:48,279 --> 00:07:53,560 wishing that everyone would shut up about everything else and just get back to Bigbot, 104 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,800 because that's all I was really interested in. And I thought there's no 105 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:03,839 way there's gonna be an entire podcast that had dedicated strictly to Bigfoot, and 106 00:08:03,959 --> 00:08:07,319 lo and behold, I found one now side squats Chronicles, that's where I 107 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:13,560 think everybody gets their start in the big boot no podcasting realm. So I 108 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,439 found it and I started listening to it, binging the hell out of it 109 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,560 every chance I got. And I found out people were actually going out into 110 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:26,040 the woods and looking for this thing, and I had always thought they were 111 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:30,519 out west, you know, Oregon, Washington, California, and I started 112 00:08:30,519 --> 00:08:37,320 listening. In one particular episode, this gentleman talked about having an encounter. 113 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:41,080 He lives in a small town about forty five minutes north of Chattanooga, Tennessee. 114 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,159 I live forty five minutes north of Chattanooga, Tennessee. And then what 115 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,200 he was talking about my town and he was talking about a place, a 116 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:54,120 recreation area that I go to and he had had an encounter in there. 117 00:08:54,159 --> 00:09:00,120 I'm like, what in the hell. So I just started looking into it, 118 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,399 you know, to getting out in the woods and doing this stuff on 119 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,120 my own, and I found out a lot of people were doing it. 120 00:09:05,159 --> 00:09:09,519 I looked into joining other groups, like I'm not going to mention them, 121 00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:15,320 but y'all know, I know, yeah, and to uh looked in and 122 00:09:15,399 --> 00:09:18,519 joining other groups, and I just saw so much negativity, Jessica. I 123 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:24,000 mean, it's like everyone puts everyone down. If you don't be a certain 124 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,840 way the same way that another person does, you're wrong, or you're a 125 00:09:26,879 --> 00:09:31,759 liar, or you're a hoax or And I just didn't want any of that. 126 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,679 I didn't want anything to do with it. So minimal research was born. 127 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,679 I started getting out in the woods, and I really I put it. 128 00:09:39,919 --> 00:09:43,360 To be honest, I put an ad on Craigslist to meet people that, 129 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:48,000 you know, we're interested in it. And I was blown away at 130 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,759 the response that I got. So many people were interested in this subject, 131 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:56,240 and I meant really really cool people. Yeah. Wow, So I got 132 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,320 my start into big button. That's amazing. You know what might actually was 133 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,799 like opposite of that, because I started doing bigfoot research before I even knew 134 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,519 there were podcasts about bigfoots and things like that. I mean, I didn't 135 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:11,759 really listen to podcasts back then because I started doing this back in twenty eleven, 136 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,200 so it's been a while. And that was before anybody had like a 137 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,960 big foot sticker on the back of their car, you know, like big 138 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:24,799 Bigfoot wasn't it wasn't like real popular like it is today. And that's why 139 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,480 I didn't go public for so long. I waited ten years to even go 140 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,440 public at all about my research and the stuff that we've been doing. And 141 00:10:33,039 --> 00:10:37,120 so, yeah, what year was that when you first started doing your bigfoot 142 00:10:37,159 --> 00:10:41,720 research twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen. Yeah, Well it was getting a little 143 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,279 more popular by then, I think because they had finding big Foot on TV 144 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:52,240 and shows like that. Yeah, and since I've been doing this, I 145 00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:56,679 have since I wish I would have gotten started around the time you did, 146 00:10:56,759 --> 00:11:00,480 or even before, because I mean, there's no telling what I have seen 147 00:11:00,879 --> 00:11:03,000 if I would have dedicated more time to or any time to it at all 148 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:07,480 back then, and I had it twenty years or so, so that I've 149 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,759 been looking into this, there's no telling what I could have seen by now, 150 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:13,120 you know exactly, Well, I bet you've seen a lot of cool 151 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:18,159 stuff though, And and so you're not out there just looking for Bigfoot, 152 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,399 right, I mean you don't you kind of cover all the paranormal subjects or 153 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,960 is it mostly just Bigfoot? As far as my research and getting out in 154 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:30,360 the field, it's it's only big Foot. The show that I host, 155 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,879 Paranormal Odyssey. I talk to people that do everything, you know. I 156 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:41,360 talked to paranormal investigators, ghost hunters, several psychic mediums. I've talked to 157 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,320 alien people you have, I'm sorry, people are interested in UFOs, aliens 158 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,200 and stuff like that. Just anything weird I talk about over there on Paranormal 159 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,399 Odyssey. Yeah, it's like a mixed bag of everything. I'd love that 160 00:11:54,919 --> 00:11:58,200 And what do you think about the paranormal like everything being connected. Do you 161 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:03,559 believe there's a can action between Bigfoot and dogman UFOs like ghost all that kind 162 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,679 of stuff. Is there some kind of weird connection there? You know what, 163 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:11,960 Jessica, when when I first started this, you could not convince me 164 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:16,559 that big Boot was anything other than a biological creature, blessing blood, just 165 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:20,759 a North American primate that we haven't caught up with yet. That's all it 166 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:26,559 was to me and anybody talking about seeing them get out of UFO or cloaking 167 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,200 or disappearing in the woods. I mean, I didn't want to hear any 168 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,000 of that. I mean, I respected your opinion and everything, but I 169 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:35,200 just I didn't believe it. I didn't want anything to do with it. 170 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,519 But since I've been talking to people since twenty nineteen, in really twenty twenty 171 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:46,039 when I started my show on YouTube, I mean I've really come full circle. 172 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,960 I believe. I mean, these people were seeing they're legit. I 173 00:12:50,039 --> 00:12:54,200 mean, there are some some respected, you know, just well versed people 174 00:12:54,320 --> 00:13:00,480 that are seeing things and it's becoming more accepted. And these people we're seeing, 175 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,279 I mean you listen to them, and they're truly, they're afraid. 176 00:13:03,639 --> 00:13:07,000 You know, what they saw it really messed with them. So they saw 177 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,559 something. So I've come full circle. I really believe that there's so much 178 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:16,360 more to this topic than I don't know. So to answer your question, 179 00:13:16,399 --> 00:13:18,440 that was really a long one to answer, but yeah, I think that 180 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,879 it's very possible that they all could be connected. Yeah, yeah, okay, 181 00:13:22,879 --> 00:13:26,159 So can you understand why I didn't go public for ten years? I 182 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,840 guess because you know, when I did go public, I'm not gonna lie. 183 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:35,039 The first the first public appearance I made was kind of unannounced. Nobody 184 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,879 knew who I was. But then my name started getting out there a little 185 00:13:37,919 --> 00:13:41,279 bit, and I started getting smear campaigns, you know, from like Bigfoot 186 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,720 hoax or groups and stuff like oh this girl, she's crazy, she's into 187 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,440 the woo, you know, and all that kind of stuff that I knew 188 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,320 it might it might have been an issue, but I didn't know that I 189 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:56,080 was going that there are people that are so dead set on, you know, 190 00:13:56,159 --> 00:14:00,600 Bigfoot not being any kind of paranormal supernatural being, you know. So 191 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,759 so I took some bullets. I'm not gonna lie, I did, and 192 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,200 uh and so shout out to all my my boots on the ground field researchers 193 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,440 out there that that are putting information out there though, you know, and 194 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,320 and for even having an open mind wane right, I mean, what how 195 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,600 do you How important is it to have an open mind about all this? 196 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,279 I think if you don't have an open mind, you should stay at home 197 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:28,200 and definitely keep shut I mean you you just you should just shut up. 198 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:35,799 If you're not willing to hear other people out and just consider what they say 199 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,440 they've seen, then you you're doing a disjustice to the field. I believe 200 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:45,000 we're not going you know, I say it so many times on my show. 201 00:14:45,639 --> 00:14:50,679 Shows like yours and like mine are the best research that we have because 202 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,200 we can get out you know, you know, you get out your boots 203 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,279 on the ground, on boots on the ground. We can get out and 204 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,919 do all that you know stuff, all that research, all the time, 205 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,759 all day long, and nine times out of ten we're not going to come 206 00:15:05,799 --> 00:15:07,919 across anything. Anybody that says they find something every time they go out there 207 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:16,440 lying it's not possible. But when you and I interview these people that have 208 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:20,279 seen something, that is the best way that we have. That's the best 209 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:26,440 tool that we have to learn about these things until we have one in captivity 210 00:15:26,519 --> 00:15:31,120 where we have a body or or however you feel about that. Nobody's got 211 00:15:31,159 --> 00:15:35,480 one tied up in their basement, nobody. There's no other way to study 212 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:39,519 these things other than getting out in the field doing what we do, which 213 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,960 is limited, or listening to people that have witnessed them. No eye witnesses 214 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,480 encounters are the best tool that we have right now. In my opinion, 215 00:15:48,279 --> 00:15:52,399 that's right, and I love them or leave them. You know, there's 216 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:56,399 certain big foot field research groups. You know, there's one in particular, 217 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:02,919 actually b fro O that you know my I don't necessarily I've never been a 218 00:16:02,919 --> 00:16:06,080 part of that group before. I think they're a great organization, but I 219 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:10,120 know that from interviewing people and having some of the guys on my team being 220 00:16:10,159 --> 00:16:12,360 a part of that. You know, they're not real big on adding like 221 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:18,200 UFOs to their field reports and things like that, you know, but it's 222 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,799 a it's a great place to start off if you're wanting to get in a 223 00:16:19,799 --> 00:16:25,600 big footfield research right but they have great reports like they do take reports. 224 00:16:25,679 --> 00:16:30,399 I think that's so important for the research is knowing where those reports are and 225 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,440 like getting an idea of like where are these and you can access all those 226 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:38,600 reports online on their website. Okay, and yes, it's so important, 227 00:16:38,679 --> 00:16:44,399 right yeah, I mean you can think whatever you want about the BFR. 228 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,360 Oh, you know, we all have our opinions about them. They won't 229 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:52,840 accept anything I get woo, I guess, I mean who but they won't 230 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:59,840 accept anything like that. But and most field researchers and just by any of 231 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,519 that, I know, the first thing you do when you have a new 232 00:17:03,559 --> 00:17:06,079 area that you want to go and look in, the first thing you do 233 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,279 is you go on the BFR when you pull up that county and you see 234 00:17:08,279 --> 00:17:12,480 how many encounters they have they've had there. Yes, that's an awesome tool. 235 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:15,599 It really is that. I mean, that is a great thing that 236 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:21,119 they're doing for the community. I mean, love them or hate them, 237 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,400 they got it right, they do. I think it's so important. Now 238 00:17:25,759 --> 00:17:30,400 as a researcher, have you ever reported any of your bigfoot sightings or any 239 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,920 kind of sighting that you've ever had to an organization? Because I haven't. 240 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:40,079 No, I mean it kind of defeats right. Yeah, you know I 241 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,960 keep them for myself. I know I do too, And so like I'm 242 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,720 always telling people it's important to make those reports, but see, I keep 243 00:17:47,759 --> 00:17:51,960 it with my team. I guess so, I don't know's there's a double 244 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,759 standard when it comes to field researchers. I guess, right, yeah, 245 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,279 maybe we shouldn't be that one, but I know, right, well, 246 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,960 let's see when you yeah, I mean even with UFOs, like with a 247 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:07,680 move on, right, I've seen many u of those in my lifetime, 248 00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:11,799 some up close and uh, and I have never reported a single one of 249 00:18:11,839 --> 00:18:15,759 those to move on or anybody but my team most Jessica, have you ever 250 00:18:15,839 --> 00:18:18,400 seen orbs? Did we talk about that when you were wrong? Yes, 251 00:18:19,039 --> 00:18:22,440 Oh my gosh, Yes, I have seen many orbs, and I've seen 252 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,279 different types of orbs. Now what about you, Wayne, have you seen 253 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,640 orbs? I've never This is what I tell people. I might be able 254 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,200 to mark one of these off of my list, but there's just a few 255 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:38,400 things that I haven't experienced one going out there that are traditionally reported in bigfoot 256 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,720 sidings. You know you've got the smell. I've never smelled one. I've 257 00:18:42,759 --> 00:18:48,480 never smelled that smell. I've never I've never seen orbs, but orbs is 258 00:18:48,519 --> 00:18:52,559 fairly new. You know that that's a fairly new phenomenon or for me anyway. 259 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:55,960 Yeah, I've never noticed that. I've never seen an orb. And 260 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,440 the third thing which I think I can scratch off my list now is I've 261 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,720 never had anything thrown at me. But this past nothing. This past weekend. 262 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,279 I was at the Smoky Mountain Conference this past weekend, but the weekend 263 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:11,200 before that, I was on an expedition up in above Knoxville, Tennessee. 264 00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:15,720 A family having some issues at their vacation home, so they allowed us to 265 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:21,000 go up in camp for a couple of days. Beautiful cabin out in just 266 00:19:21,079 --> 00:19:22,799 the middle of nowhere. I wish they would have left us the key so 267 00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:26,119 we could stay inside, but we haven't quite got to that point yet. 268 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:32,319 Oh yeah, we camped out on their property and we just had a crazy 269 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,559 weekend. There was so much stuff that go that went on. I shared 270 00:19:34,599 --> 00:19:38,079 a video where we got some eyeshine, not saying it was big, but 271 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,079 eyeshine, but there was something that was looking at us. But getting back 272 00:19:42,079 --> 00:19:45,960 to the rock throwing. These people, like I said, they had a 273 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,039 cabin, and like most cabins, they had a tin roof. If an 274 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:56,640 acorn or something falls on a roof that makes a very distinct sound. If 275 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,160 something hits the side of a house or a girl ours, or just a 276 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:14,799 board, that makes a completely different sound. Stay tuned for more paranormal Odyssey. 277 00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:17,359 It was about yeah, it was about one or two o'clock in the 278 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,480 afternoon. We were just sitting around, you know, just bs and talking, 279 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,680 and a rock hit the side of the house with some velocity. I 280 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,920 mean it was moving and it hit the side of the house. I bring 281 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:36,319 up the ten roof thing because it wasn't anything balling it, because that made 282 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,920 a completely different sound. I got up and I threw some rocks up on 283 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:45,559 the roof just so we could hear the difference. And it was something something 284 00:20:45,599 --> 00:20:48,680 got thrown against the house. I'm very confident in saying. But it only 285 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,759 happened at one time, That's what That's what really troubles me, because you 286 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,559 think that it was a big foot or something like that, and they were 287 00:20:56,559 --> 00:21:00,359 trying to get our attention or trying to get us to leave. They would 288 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,240 have done it more than once. So that's what I can't really understand. 289 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,160 So those three things. The smell I've never experienced, the orbs, I 290 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:14,440 haven't experience and maybe I've experienced that something thrown at me. Oh my gosh, 291 00:21:14,759 --> 00:21:17,359 I've had all that happened to me, Wayne, all of it, 292 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,039 and and well, no, it's just it's it's been such an experience, 293 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,000 right, I mean, I've been camping up at one of our most i'm 294 00:21:26,039 --> 00:21:29,279 gonna say, the hottest spot, like a hots We have a lot of 295 00:21:29,279 --> 00:21:32,839 hot spots that we do our research at, but we have this one in 296 00:21:32,839 --> 00:21:37,920 particular right up in North Georgia, and h one night we had something came 297 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,640 into our base camp and screamed at us really loud, and then it proceeded 298 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:48,119 all night to throw acorns and rocks at our tents all night, and and 299 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,240 the thing was like we could hear the acorns falling from the trees from like 300 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:56,319 up to down. But then these things were going sho like you could hear 301 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,920 the velocity, like you could hear it like going sideways in hitting the side 302 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,039 of our tent all night. So, yeah, I know exactly what you're 303 00:22:04,039 --> 00:22:07,839 talking about. I think we talked a little bit about that on my show, 304 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,559 about that inexperience that reminds me y'all stayed right, you stayed all night? 305 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,039 Yes, we always stay we're not. We ain't scared. Is that 306 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,160 the time that that you were talking about y'all got real sleepy? Yes, 307 00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:26,599 we all went to bed. Yeah, well we all just well, okay, 308 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,880 so that happens a lot of times, right when we're out there and 309 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,440 we have a lot of activity going on, a lot of And I've had 310 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,119 other people tell me the same thing, who are out there doing boots on 311 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,119 the ground research. You have a lot of activity in the middle of the 312 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,599 night, you should normally stay up all night and keep watch right and do 313 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:51,119 some investigating. Well, we just kind of I just thought it was because 314 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,279 we've been doing this for so long, you know, like we're just we're 315 00:22:53,319 --> 00:22:56,599 out there, and plus like we're all getting older, you know, we're 316 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,119 tired. Yeah, there's been ah, we would do this a long time, 317 00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:04,359 and so when when the going gets tough, we just go to bed 318 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,319 sometimes, you know, if it's in the base camp. But I can 319 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,440 tell you, Wayne, not a single one of us fell asleep that whole 320 00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:15,519 night. But we all went into our tents and you know, and I 321 00:23:15,559 --> 00:23:18,440 know nobody went to sleep because nobody snored, okay, and uh, and 322 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,359 we were all getting pelted with rocks and acorns all night. But but yeah, 323 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,839 there's something that happens. It's almost That's why I feel like there's an 324 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:30,839 et element, like an extraterrestrial potentially extraterrestrial element. When we're having this big 325 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:36,279 Foot activity, we're having this like interdimensional activity going on out there. I 326 00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:40,839 think that I feel like there's some kind of extraterrestrial element to it, and 327 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,279 it kind of like puts you to sleep or something. It's really odd or 328 00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:47,200 at least makes you want to go leave down. Yeah, well, what 329 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,640 do you think about infrasound? Do you think that could I think that's part 330 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,039 of it. Yeah, I think that could totally be part of it. 331 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,759 So ill since you you've touched on that, I've touched on it a few 332 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:03,640 times. I'm talking on my show. It it seems like every time when 333 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,799 I go out, when I'm laying down at night and I'm asleep, something 334 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,200 wakes me. And not every time, but a lot of times when I 335 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:18,599 go out, something wakes me from a dead sleep, and I know that 336 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,759 there's something out there. I know that something woke me up, but I 337 00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:26,759 and that's the reason I'm there. I'm there to have the experience to gather 338 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,880 information and evidence, but I cannot make myself get out of bed and go. 339 00:24:32,279 --> 00:24:36,519 Look. It's like I fall back asleep. And normally, if you 340 00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:40,240 feel like something's walking around or someone's walking around in your camp while you're trying 341 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,119 to sleep, you're not gonna go back to sleep. You're gonna be on 342 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:48,319 high alert. Right, Yeah, you think that's not how it works. 343 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,119 So why isn't it if it was a prowler, if it was a person, 344 00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:57,119 do you think maybe we'd have a different we'd feel differently, we would 345 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:02,119 be more alert. I don't want. Oh yeah, absolutely, I think 346 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,759 so for sure. I mean, and it's not just one of us, 347 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:08,319 it's like all of us. And I remember that one night, every single 348 00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:12,359 one of us did sit and I remember we laid in our cots, in 349 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,160 our beds and our tents whatever, in us leaping bags. We were all 350 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,359 just listening, and we knew that we were all away because nobody was snoring. 351 00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:23,680 And then about halfway through the night, the head of my team whispers, 352 00:25:23,799 --> 00:25:29,319 he goes, remember we do this for fun. You know. It's 353 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,319 like we're all just sitting there, just like getting pelted with rocks and acorns. 354 00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:36,720 It was almost like we were all an alert, waiting to We were 355 00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:40,119 waiting to go on the defensive if we had to, okay, because we 356 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,759 didn't know what was out there. But we well, see, here's the 357 00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:45,039 thing. Like it's almost like we wanted the experience of it, and we 358 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,480 knew that if we went outside of our tents, it was gonna stop. 359 00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:53,359 Okay, does that make sense too? So yeah, so if we had 360 00:25:53,359 --> 00:26:00,240 emerged from our tents, it would have gone away probably. So maybe we 361 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,519 were just waiting for it to walk into our camp, you know, that 362 00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:03,759 kind of a thing, because it was there. It was in our camp, 363 00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:08,640 it was just behind ours. Hints. Yeah, you're telling that story 364 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:15,359 has stuck with me about something running into your camp and screaming. That was 365 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,720 that same night. That was what it was. I would poop myself, 366 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:23,400 I really would. I would poop myself. Yeah, you would. It's 367 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,440 not that scary. I mean it was. It was. It was startling, 368 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,559 But like once you're out in the woods and you're doing that field research 369 00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:33,039 all the time, I mean, you start having these experiences and and it's 370 00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:37,559 more exciting than anything. Really, it's not it's not really scary once you're 371 00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:42,079 innoculated to it and it happens a lot it because we're it's just an adventure, 372 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,720 okay, but it's also an adventure that keeps you tired the next day 373 00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:48,759 and you'll have like circles under your eyes and stuff because you didn't sleep all 374 00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:52,440 night. But but that's why we're out there, and uh, and I'm 375 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,000 out there to get the experience just like you are. I want to I 376 00:26:56,039 --> 00:27:03,200 want to see for myself what's really out there. Yeah. Now I've had 377 00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:08,319 one what I believe to be one siding, and I got a thermal picture 378 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,759 of it. I didn't think I should have sent it to you so that 379 00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:14,880 we could share it. I've shared it everywhere. If anybody's familiar with my 380 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,119 show, they've seen it. But I'll send it to you when we get 381 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,039 done. You can put it up. But yes, it happened on Pigeon 382 00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:25,680 Mountain. You know, you and I talked about a Pigeon Mountain. It's 383 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,519 in Lafayette, Georgia and North Georgia. And what got me thinking about this 384 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:33,359 was talking about, you know, the being tired and not being able to 385 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,039 get up and and all that stuff. What led us to go back to 386 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:45,839 that same spot was a couple of weeks prior this was in January of twenty 387 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:52,119 twenty twenty one. I believe January of twenty twenty one. Me and the 388 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,079 vice president of my research organization, Animal Research, mister Derek Walls, I 389 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,759 call them Walls. We were up there, I'm Pigeon Mountain as our first 390 00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:07,680 time ever being there. We went up and we didn't really neither of us 391 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,160 are hunters. We didn't realize that it was the last weekend of deer season 392 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,880 in North Georgia. So whenever the last weekend of deer season was, that's 393 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,119 when we were there. So it was in January, cold as hell is 394 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,160 bitterly cold. So we get there. I check in. This is off 395 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,839 subject, but I'll share it, okay. I check in with the ranger 396 00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:30,480 when we first get there, and I go in. I meet this young 397 00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:34,079 man. He's in his early to mid twenties, very polite, personable, 398 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,000 Yes, sir, no, sir, shook my hand. Great kid, 399 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,640 just a really good kid. So I felt comfortable. He put me at 400 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,279 ease. I felt comfortable saying, well, we're a pair going to be 401 00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:51,200 looking for into bigfoot reports. There have been reports on this mountain. Have 402 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:53,920 you heard anything or seen anything, Jessica, I swear to God. He 403 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:59,720 looks me in the eye and he tells me Bigfoot. No, but we've 404 00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:04,680 had the over reports of gnomes, gnomes, gnomes, the little people. 405 00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:08,759 Huh, the little people? Yeah, no way, I've been hearing reports 406 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:14,240 that it was more often myself. Really. Yeah, absolutely, the little 407 00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:18,960 people in your area. No, not in Georgia, No, North Carolina. 408 00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:25,359 My friend David Pardu actually has a video of some little people. Yeah. 409 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,880 They We considered them to probably be aliens though in that video that he 410 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,839 has, but we're not sure so. But yeah, I've been in Alaska. 411 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,680 This was Georgia. We're gonna have to talk about this some more. 412 00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:40,000 This is interesting, Yeah, it was. It was on Pigeon Mountain. 413 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,119 He told me that one of the people that reported seeing them was like a 414 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,920 twenty plus year veteran, a ranger that worked there, and he told me 415 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,119 a story and I don't remember work for work. They talked about they were 416 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:55,880 doing some construction work there, some earthwork at doze or of stuff, moving 417 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,119 stuff around, and one of the workers saw one and reported it and like 418 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,079 report it to a ranger, and he said that the ranger made a phone 419 00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:08,279 call to someone and twenty minutes later they completely shut the side down, told 420 00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:12,079 everybody that they had to leave. I don't know, Yeah, I don't 421 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:15,799 know how much truth there is to that. I can't don't know if there's 422 00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:18,799 any way to validate it, but it might be cool to look into. 423 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,799 I can believe that. Okay, I've heard that before too, that like 424 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:29,039 when there's a dog man sighting, right, a big foot or whatever, 425 00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:32,880 if you tell like a park ranger there's a number that they have to they 426 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,240 call, like they're they're told to call this phone number, and then like 427 00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:41,440 the I don't want to see like federal agents, but like somebody shows up 428 00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:45,440 and uh, and so maybe maybe that's why inherently, like I know, 429 00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:48,759 like not to report my big foot sightings and I and we're seeing there's important 430 00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:55,240 to report these sightings and things like that. But like let's just say national 431 00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:59,559 parks for instance, right, national parks. Okay, we have all these 432 00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:03,839 people that are going missing right now? Is Pigeon Mountain International Park? Do 433 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,480 you know is that a state park or national park? It's a WMA, 434 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:11,359 a Wildlife Management Area. I don't know that it's connected to any park though, 435 00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:15,839 Well, so that's federal land management then, right, Okay, so 436 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:22,279 that's covered by the government. Yeah, so this little So when we're out 437 00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:25,519 there in like the deep woods, we're getting these reports, we're experiencing it 438 00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:30,960 for ourselves. You know, maybe it's not the best idea to report them 439 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,400 because they're they're getting these phone calls to come in, and they're they're telling 440 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,039 the rangers to call them or whatever to come in and either eradicate them. 441 00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:41,400 I mean, what do you think they're doing, eradicating them or Yeah, 442 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:47,440 you know, that's that's touchy, Jessica. I mean, we don't want 443 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,559 to tell people not to report it to like government officials, but there again, 444 00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:56,920 do we trust government officials when it comes to stuff like this. We 445 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:04,759 absolutely want people to report them to organizations like ours so that we can go 446 00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:07,960 out and look into it. We I mean, I know you guys do 447 00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:13,440 too. I've spent so much money on the equipment and my organization. The 448 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,519 people in my organization we pay dues, We pay monthly dues and it all 449 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:22,400 goes into a pot and we buy at that pace for our expeditions and equipment 450 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,720 and stuff like that. But I've spent a lot of money on my own 451 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:29,519 on the stuff too, So reporting it to organizations like ours. We have 452 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,480 the equipment and we make the time to go out there and look into it. 453 00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:36,799 But I just I don't know. I don't know if we should, 454 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,440 if I should feel, if I feel right telling people not to report it 455 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:44,640 to government officials. I guess, make your own mind up. I don't 456 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,000 know. Yeah, just go with your gut, y'all. Go with your 457 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,319 gut, and that's all we can do. Yeah, I start talking about 458 00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:59,240 the gnomes and it got me off subject. But we were there Pigeon Mountain 459 00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:02,799 check in with the We head up there and we're thinking, last weekend of 460 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,119 deer season, we're not going to get anything. So we were bummed out. 461 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,839 And to add to it, later that night, after it got dark, 462 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,079 something happened. There was some kind of medical emergency. I believe a 463 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:23,039 hiker or a hunter maybe got lost, because some trucks, some ranger trucks 464 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:29,960 and an ambulance came flying down these dirt roads. Later that night and we're 465 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,319 out doing this walk. It's like ten eleven o'clock at night. It's very 466 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,039 dark outside. We're doing this walk, and we keep hearing this helicopter come 467 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,599 flying around the area, and I swear to god, this thing starts hovering 468 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,400 over us, and we're like, what the hell is this helicopter doing. 469 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,559 He's just hovering above us, watching us, and we think that what happens 470 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,839 was we think that they had like the thermal or the infrared imaging, and 471 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,480 they were just checking us out because they were looking for somebody. We think 472 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,839 somebody either got lost or was hurt or something and they were looking for him. 473 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,440 But with all that stuff going on, we were pretty we accepted that 474 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,360 nothing was going to happen. There weren't going to be any big but out 475 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,920 tonight. There's just too much going on. So we packed it up early 476 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:17,960 and we were we were old, like you said, out of shape, 477 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:24,599 tired, We ate our burgers. I'm not calling my team all of y'all. 478 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:28,280 I'm not. We've just been doing this a long time, that's all. 479 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,320 Yeah. Now, we got bed, got four and everything, and 480 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,119 got tired, and we went to bed about one o'clock at night. We 481 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,960 usually stay up way later, but we went to bed, and before I 482 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:45,800 did, I set my voice recorder on our table and I covered it up 483 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:51,239 with some chips. You know, the small little bags of chips your mom 484 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,880 used to putting your lunch box when you were a kid, like the individual 485 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,840 party size packs. We bought a bunch of those, and I sat it 486 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,760 on top of the recorder and we went to bed. And the tent was 487 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,599 about ten or fifteen feet away from that table, and you can hear us 488 00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:08,000 talking inside the tent, you know a lot of people do. And you 489 00:35:08,119 --> 00:35:13,519 talk until you fall asleep. Twenty twenty five minutes later, you don't hear 490 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:17,280 talking anymore. You hear snoring. So we'll sleep, And I swear to 491 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,239 God, now I didn't. We didn't know what's happened until a week or 492 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,679 so later when I was reviewing the audio. About twenty twenty five minutes after 493 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:34,000 we went to sleep, we start hearing this something like something stepping walking into 494 00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:38,440 our camp, and then the chips being played with, like rustled. And 495 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:45,559 then after the chips were being rustled, do you hear and then like small 496 00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:52,880 feet running away? And didn't you hear that again, like something bigger walking 497 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,960 away. Oh, we didn't see it. No, it's only speculation. 498 00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:02,519 But from what you hear in your mind, one you picture mama big Foot 499 00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:07,119 walking into camp, getting some chips, had it, handing it to baby 500 00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:09,719 big Foot, dropping them in Baby big Foot running away and Mama Bigfoot walking 501 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:15,880 behind him. Did that happen? But we got it on audio, and 502 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,400 that's what led us to go back a couple of weeks later when we had 503 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,800 where we got the thermal hit of something that was eight foot tall with something 504 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:30,840 smaller in front of it, running around playing in front of it. Wow, 505 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:37,039 that's fascinating. Wow that all happened right in your backyard. Oh listen, 506 00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:38,800 I believe it. I we have more big foot activity in the North 507 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:44,519 Georgia Mountains than we have anywhere. And my teams we researched all over the 508 00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:46,079 South, Okay, and I've even been to Tennessee. By the way, 509 00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:51,880 I know you're up in Tennessee. I just recently did a field investigation of 510 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,360 a couple's home. They have four hundred and eighty eight acres up in north 511 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,960 the center of Tennessee. Like North up it's called Whitley Bill, Okay, 512 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,199 so in the middle of nowhere with caves and all that. And they have 513 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,719 big foot activity up there. And I know there's a lot of big foot 514 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,920 activity, dog man activity, but North Georgia Mountains, I gotta tell you, 515 00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:14,639 they got the most big foots. And speaking of big foots, we 516 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,639 got big foot Michigan Rob in the chat. Thank you for that superstick or 517 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:22,360 Rob. Y'all go subscribe to his channel. Please, Hello b tomorrow Man, 518 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,880 thank you for being here. Yeah, and they've got big foots up 519 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,760 in Michigan too, by the way, So they're everywhere, but of the 520 00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:31,760 North Georgia Mountains are where it's at if you want to have a big foot 521 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,800 sighting. That's my opinion. I'm not gonna get my locations away, but 522 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,000 yes, they're up there. Well, I need you to give me a 523 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:45,239 couple I'll meet you up there sometime. Listen, we don't live that far 524 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,320 from each other, so we'll be meeting up and doing a trip sometime. 525 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,639 I'm gonna hold you that. I've talked to a couple of members of my 526 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,079 members, one in particular, mister Kevin, if you're watching, buddy, 527 00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:00,039 He commented said that we needed to get out in the woods with you because 528 00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:07,400 you're a ball of energy, and uh, we'd have fun out there. 529 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,639 You get out and showing us some new spots. Well shoot, yeah, 530 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,960 well there's there's plenty of them out there. Yeah, But the North Georgia 531 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:20,320 Mountains are so just thick with vegetation and places for these things to hide. 532 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,000 And Okay, my question to you is do you think that bigfoots could have 533 00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:29,159 supernatural powers? And I know you said earlier than you do that you got 534 00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:31,880 to keep open mind. But where do they go when they're sleeping? Do 535 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,400 you think that they are interdimensional beings or do you think they're just going into 536 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,199 a cave or something like? Where? Where are these things going at night 537 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:45,199 or during the daytime when we don't see them them? Having that ability to 538 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:51,599 go from dimension to dimensional would absolutely explain why we don't see them. It 539 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,679 would. Uh, scientists won't accept that, I mean mainstream science or they're 540 00:38:55,679 --> 00:39:00,559 never going to accept that, but you know we can as field researchers as 541 00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:05,559 something that we can look into. So that would explain. That would answer 542 00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:09,559 the question if they had those abilities. But if they don't and they are 543 00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:15,039 flesh and blood, and this is the reason science has such a problem with 544 00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:17,079 it, because they believe that if they exist, they're flesh and blood, 545 00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:22,880 that's what they have to be, where do they go and answer that question? 546 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,519 You hit it right on the head. I think they go into caves. 547 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,320 Yeah, pigeon Mountain is full of caves. They're I mean they're everywhere 548 00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:34,800 up there, this area down here in the South, it is full of 549 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,800 caves. I mean they're all over the place. And people will argue, 550 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:44,360 why if these things are so elusive, why would they back themselves into a 551 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,599 corner by going into a cave. Well, we don't know that they're backing 552 00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:52,679 themselves into a corner. They've been traveling these cave systems for thousand years. 553 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,000 Probably they know the ends and the ounce and how where to go and where 554 00:39:55,039 --> 00:40:00,039 not to go. But I think that's just a silly argument. But it 555 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:13,000 stay tuned for more paranormal odyssey. I think cave systems is the answer. 556 00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:15,920 I really do. And I don't know. I'm sure you've seen that map 557 00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:21,440 that overlays missing people with a map of the cave systems in the US. 558 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:25,400 Have you seen? Yeah? Of course, of course told me that someone 559 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:30,840 told me that's not But really I don't Yeah, but I don't know. 560 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,079 I mean, every there's always going to be somebody that cross bowl on stuff 561 00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:37,280 like that. But I haven't heard seen anything scientific to tell me that it 562 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,960 wasn't real. Until I do, I'm going to say that there's a connection. 563 00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:45,320 I think I think there could be a connection there. Yeah, I 564 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,119 think there's a connection too. And now I got to tell you something really 565 00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:52,239 interesting, right, because I am I'm trained. I do tracking, right, 566 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,960 I'm a tracker. I know how to do. I do human tracking, 567 00:40:55,079 --> 00:41:00,119 animal tracking, whatever, right. And uh, when I was I've 568 00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:04,920 been Tennessee at that property, at Farah and her husband's property, they have 569 00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:07,440 this huge cave right behind their house, okay, and these chickens were being 570 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,400 taken there, their pet chickens were being taken. Something was actually opening up 571 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,800 the chicken pen taking chickens out, and the only things that were left these 572 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,760 chickens were like feathers. Okay, there's no carnage, no blood, no 573 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,679 body parts, no nothing. And but there was a trail of feathers at 574 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,920 one point going into that cave. Okay. So and there was a foot 575 00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,920 there was one footprint that looked like a sasquatch footprint beside the chicken coop. 576 00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:36,159 All right. So I go up there with a team of guys and we're 577 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,280 looking through that cave, like we literally went into that cave. I was 578 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,320 looking for tracks, right, I'm looking for any kind of sign a big 579 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,440 foot in that cave, and I gotta tell you, there was a zero. 580 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:52,559 There was nothing, no footprints, no sign, no nothing. I 581 00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:55,159 couldn't find anything. And he would think that, like there were the feathers 582 00:41:55,199 --> 00:41:59,320 that were going up there, there was. It clearly looked as a sasquash 583 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,480 had taken those chick There was no sign of bigfoot at all, no footprints. 584 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,159 Now could they have like jumped up into like one of the caverns in 585 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,119 the top of the cave and like not going through the main part, Yeah, 586 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:15,840 totally, but those are tiny little caverns, so I don't know. 587 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,960 It was just it was interesting. You got me really interested in that property. 588 00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:25,199 That Yeah, that strange big foot. I mean, so something's going 589 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:30,760 in there, Something with hands is opening the chicken goop and not killing the 590 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:36,599 chicken rut there, but picking it up and carrying it at all. Now, 591 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,800 let me ask you this, are they leaving chickens, are they or 592 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:45,119 are they taking everything they can? Okay, that was such a great question 593 00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:50,599 because what my hypothesis is that they are taking the chickens to raise their own 594 00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:55,519 eggs. Okay, I don't think they're even killing the chickens. They took 595 00:42:55,559 --> 00:43:00,679 some of the hens and it was hens and there was no blood. I 596 00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:04,760 feel like perhaps potentially they're wanting just to have their own eggs and raise their 597 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,480 own chickens. Potentially that was my fa They don't take all the chickens drop, 598 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,559 No, they only took a couple, and there was like a stick, 599 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,440 like a long stick stuck into the back of the pin of the where 600 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,920 the chickens were, Like it was poking at the chickens to shoe them to 601 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,239 the front of the to where the door was. So it shows some intelligence, 602 00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:30,920 right, something with the posable zumps too. That's I mean, when 603 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:37,000 you get evidence like that, you the only thing it can be is a 604 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:42,719 sasquatch or a person, you know, a federal person, right, you've 605 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,960 been talking about feral people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and those guys 606 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,360 were cool, but yeah, I mean you narrow it down to either a 607 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:59,800 sasquatch or you've got an intruder or a trespasser that's coming on. And have 608 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,440 they put cameras up or anything? Oh yeah, Oh, there were cameras 609 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,079 all over the place. Yeah, they have multiple cameras outside the house. 610 00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:12,639 And Pharaoh was picking up orbs and left recording devices out by the cave. 611 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,599 And she was picking up voices. And yeah, the camera actually the last 612 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:23,400 night that the chickens were taken, the camera had been moved right before the 613 00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:29,360 chickens were taken. Yeah, so the camera was actually facing in the opposite 614 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,000 direction for the first time ever. Yeah, so there was no footage. 615 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,960 So that shows intelligence too, yall. Y'all got a cool bloss up there. 616 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,519 Yes, oh yeah, right. I I was super happy to be 617 00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:45,159 there. It was an awesome investigation. I was up there with the guys 618 00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:51,119 from Crypti Warfare podcasts, Zooke and Drew Ski and their friends, and we 619 00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:54,159 made an operation out of it. It was fantastic. Yeah, we ended 620 00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:58,159 up not getting a whole lot of cryptid activity up there, but we got 621 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:04,440 paranormal activity. Actually in the cave. We picked up figures on the SLS 622 00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:07,880 cameras. One was a giant and there were two little tiny ones and they 623 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,960 were interacting with us. Yeah. It was wild. Yeah, super weird 624 00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:16,280 stuff. They can do a whole show talking about that investigation. Yeah. 625 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,239 Yeah, and hey, let me know if you want to, if you 626 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,760 want me to bring send some of my friends over too. They can tell 627 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,000 you all about it on your shot too. If y'all go back up there. 628 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,119 I'd love to go with you. Yeah, hey, we'll take you. 629 00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:31,320 We're we got to plan a trip for sure, because we're too close 630 00:45:32,559 --> 00:45:36,400 in proximity to each other to not be going out and doing some big footing 631 00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:42,639 together for sure with your team. Yeah yeah, yeah. What is the 632 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:51,400 strangest thing you've ever come across out in the field. The strangest thing I 633 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,199 didn't come across it. And again, if we were on my stream yard, 634 00:45:54,199 --> 00:46:00,559 I could share this picture with you. But it's a guy that is 635 00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:04,360 new to my group. His name's Craig. Shout out to Craig if you're 636 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:09,199 watching, buddy. But this area that he's been looking into, he found 637 00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:15,119 this old dead tree. And this might not be strange to a lot of 638 00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:19,639 you, but it's strange to me. There's this down tree that's clearly dead, 639 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,119 and there's a boulder that is sitting on top of it. I'm not 640 00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:30,039 talking to rock. I'm not talking like a basketball sized rock. I'm talking 641 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:37,480 about a little bit smaller than a Volkswagen boulders sitting on top of this tree. 642 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:43,000 How there's no way, no possible way that it could be there, 643 00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:49,480 and it just it's scary to think about if something put that boulder there, 644 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,320 the strength that it possesses. I mean, because we're talking maybe a ton 645 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,639 that this thing weighs. And I showed it. I talked about it for 646 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,119 a while on my show, and I showed the pictures of it, and 647 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,360 of course we have people in there talking about what loggers did it. Loggers 648 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,039 picked it up with the equipment and sat it on there. Why why would 649 00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:14,119 they do that? That doesn't make any sense. And it's in a state 650 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:20,440 park. I don't think they do a whole lot of logging and state parks 651 00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:24,880 so and the area around it, you can see that it's never been logged 652 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,239 before. There's all kinds of trees there. I mean, I didn't buy 653 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,239 that, but that was strange. And another guy told me that I worked 654 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:37,159 with, told me about finding a fire hydrant, fire hydrant, a fire 655 00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:45,480 extinguisher well underneath a down tree out and just miles away from anything in the 656 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,639 woods. And I mean, how does that happen? Somebody just take a 657 00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:52,360 fire extinguisher out there and throw it down and then the tree just happens to 658 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,760 fall on it. How do the stuff like that? Yeah, a lot 659 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,480 of a lot of things just don't make sense. And so that's where we 660 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,360 have to use our common sets to understand that this stuff don't make sense. 661 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,960 Okay, now sounds southern as heck. I know, it just doesn't make 662 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,719 sense a lot of it. But what didn't this world makes sense anymore? 663 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,519 Wayne? That's my question? What makes sense anymore of especially when you're dealing 664 00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:20,960 with big fut out there? Yeah? Do you come up well on a 665 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,840 bunch of like X structures and tree structures and tps and what do you think 666 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,760 about that kind of stuff? Ah see them all the time. They're they're 667 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,000 everywhere. You know, I don't know, I don't know what to make 668 00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:37,719 of it. A lot of it can be explained, but like just natural, 669 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:43,360 no mother nature, just a tree falling or limbs falling. But when 670 00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:51,079 when you see saplings bent over and then wedged between other trees, something with 671 00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:55,239 hands had to do it. It wasn't a tornado that came through that wedge 672 00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:00,800 this tree twelve different ways. And then you see like webb a bunch of 673 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:06,840 limbs like woven together and stuff. That stuff can't be explained. You know, 674 00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:13,239 I think they're they're signed. There's like symbols or signs or markers of 675 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,840 something. Will we ever know what they're displaying. I don't know that we 676 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:23,000 ever will, but I think they're markers of some sort, really do Yeah, 677 00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:27,320 I think that the X the X markers, I think those are markers 678 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,559 for sure. I think there's some kind of territorial thing even what I mean, 679 00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:32,599 if if they do know where the Earth's natural portals are, it could 680 00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:35,880 be like a spot like hey, this is where we come in and out, 681 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,800 you know, I mean, who knows. Everybody's got an opinion on 682 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,719 it. But but I also always say, like, we can't we can't 683 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,960 underestimate the power of a drunk camper or like board campers or boy scouts, 684 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:53,199 you know what I mean. And they should be a bump the sticker or 685 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,679 a T shirt right and a hat. I think those would sell for sure. 686 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:04,199 Yeah, never underestimate the the potential of a drunk camper because you know, 687 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,519 a lot of a lot of times like they will go out there and 688 00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:10,400 they also they'll go out there and they'll make tps and debris huts. And 689 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,920 I'm not saying those are drunk campers, even though my team has been out 690 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,440 there many times where we have learned and taught each other how to make debris 691 00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:22,000 huts and stuff like that. So you know, when people send me pictures 692 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:27,280 of stuff like of like debris huts and things, I don't really use that 693 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,639 as like evidence on my shows and stuff because I know that a human probably 694 00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:34,559 made that. Yeah, but it's all about doing it yourself, so like 695 00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,519 you know that humans are capable of doing it, so you don't assume everything's 696 00:50:37,519 --> 00:50:39,599 a big foot, you know. I guess that's part of the research. 697 00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:45,280 Yeah, I mean, I think that is the most important thing that we 698 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:51,639 as researchers need to do. We need to when we see something, never 699 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:59,400 assome that that it's big foot, and do everything we can to eliminate any 700 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,840 other possible ability. And I think that's what a good researcher does. I'm 701 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:07,920 sure that's what you and your team do. Take every other scenario out of 702 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:14,880 play, and with what you are left with was big boot, then present 703 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,800 it as evidence. I think a lot of us, a lot of the 704 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:22,880 people out there, especially with the pictures this Paradoia stuff. I mean, 705 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:27,679 it drives me crazy. I know a lot of those pictures are legit, 706 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,039 there is something there, but for everyone that there's something there, there's probably 707 00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:37,679 in my opinion, there's probably five that there's not, And I think I 708 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:43,119 think it does a disservice to the subject. If you put out a piece 709 00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:46,679 of evidence that you're not one hundred percent certain and those pictures you cannot be 710 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,960 one hundred percent certain. I'm sorry. I feel like it gives us a 711 00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:55,320 bad It gives us a bad name. It doesn't have a subject, a 712 00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:00,760 subject that has already looked down on by so many people. When you start 713 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,199 putting pictures like that out at the blurry pictures and the pictures of a woodline 714 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,880 that could possibly be ahead or a shoulder, that you're just hurting us. 715 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,559 In my opinion, you need to be sure that you have something before you 716 00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:17,320 release it. In my opinion, yes, well, I just don't show 717 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,719 the Paradoia stuff on my shows and things like that. But it's not to 718 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,440 say that these people aren't having real experiences out there though, you know, 719 00:52:24,519 --> 00:52:30,639 and so and I love a good account of like something that happens to somebody, 720 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,679 and uh, and a lot of times I'll get, like my team 721 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,360 we get phone calls from people like state park rangers and stuff that are like, 722 00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:40,599 I'm having all this activity here, you know, and we don't send 723 00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:45,480 the whole team out to go investigate. We usually send like one or two 724 00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:49,400 people out at the most just to go scout it to make sure that what 725 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,519 they're saying adds a you know, before we actually send a whole team out 726 00:52:52,519 --> 00:52:57,719 there to research. And so I think that's a good rule of thumb because 727 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,119 they say, yeah, so many people, how many people you got in 728 00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:06,599 your organization, your group? Well, I'm on I'm on three different research 729 00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:12,679 teams. So but but we all kind of inter we we intermingle, like 730 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,199 we're all like we're all kind of on each person's teams, like we're all 731 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,920 most of the same people are on the same teams, but we're just in 732 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:23,639 different regions. So I'm going to say there's about fifteen of us, just 733 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,639 round about number, Yeah, about fifteen something like that. I'd say we've 734 00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:32,199 got about twelve in manimal ten to twelve. I had them in multiple states, 735 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:39,000 and I've tried to not do that as much because you if someone did 736 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:45,280 in Missouri or Virginia, you can't really keep a grasp on what what all 737 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,000 they're doing and everything, you know, with ten to twelve people. A 738 00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:52,599 problem I'm having, and I'm sure you are too is you know, we're 739 00:53:52,639 --> 00:53:58,599 all adults. We all have other responsibilities, no families, kids and jobs. 740 00:53:59,639 --> 00:54:02,320 Just by I'm in the time to get together. You know, that's 741 00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:07,480 something the problem that we're having. Yeah, because it's it's expensive and it's 742 00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:12,440 time consuming, but it's so worth it because it's so fun. It is 743 00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:14,880 and I can't wait to get out in the field with you guys one day. 744 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,599 It's gonna be a lot of fun. And tell everybody, Okay, 745 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,400 this hour has gone by so fast. I know I started the show a 746 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,039 couple of minutes late because my computer went haywire. But this has been amazing. 747 00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:28,880 Wayne, I've had a really good time talking to you tonight. Where 748 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,559 can my audience find you? What's your YouTube channel? Okay, I appreciate 749 00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:37,840 that. Yeah, if everyone would go and give me a subscribe, I 750 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,360 would appreciate it. I'm right there at the two thousand mark and I would 751 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,559 love to be there about tomorrow if you guys can help me out. It's 752 00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:50,679 a Paranormal Odyssey. Lab is my YouTube channel. There is a normal Odyssey. 753 00:54:51,519 --> 00:54:53,559 I need to add live to it. Well, I'm not sure if 754 00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:55,920 the LAB is on there or not. I think it is, but you 755 00:54:57,039 --> 00:55:01,039 just put in Paranormal Odyssey, You're you're gonna find me, and my research 756 00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:07,280 organization is minimal Research. I got that group on Facebook. Feel free to 757 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,719 head over there and become a member. I would love to have you come 758 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:15,880 and share some of your experiences. My YouTube channel, Paranormal Odyssey. I 759 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,079 do a live show every Tuesday night at seven thirties. Some weeks i'll do 760 00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:23,559 an extra one and get a couple of extra like I did one last night. 761 00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:29,960 But every episode that I do I release to podcast, and that's where 762 00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:37,239 I have a much bigger reach. I can't even I mean ten to twelve 763 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:42,719 thousand downloads a month. I get yeah on my podcast, So anything I 764 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,760 do on the YouTube channel gets uploaded to podcast, and I interview more people 765 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:52,519 that don't get a live show, so you get extra content. I release 766 00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:58,800 an episode every Wednesday and Sunday on Paranormal Audycy and you can get that anywhere 767 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,880 you get podcasts, Pool, Spotify, all that stuff. And give me 768 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:07,000 a rating review, guys, help me out. Five stars only, y'all, 769 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,239 five stars only. He's amazing. Yeah, you're you have such a 770 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,199 great show and and I really enjoy being on there. Thank you. For 771 00:56:13,519 --> 00:56:16,559 inviting me to be one of your your guests, because it's just it's a 772 00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:22,280 lot of fun. I'm glad I have friends up in Tennessee that go research 773 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,760 in North Georgia. Because yeah, it's it's a good time. So Wayne, 774 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,079 thank you so much for being here today. I'm sorry. I had 775 00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:31,119 so many technical difficulties. I don't know what's wrong. There's something in the 776 00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:37,159 water tonight, but hey, we pulled through. Like I always say, 777 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:42,719 whenever you have a good guest or a good interview, the hours blah blah, 778 00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:45,800 and this one absolutely bla by. I had had a blast, Jeska, 779 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,480 thank you, thank you. Well, it's not the last time you're 780 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,360 gonna be on space Stout Radio. I'm bringing you back on soon. Okay, 781 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,239 be here, Okay, awesome, Wayne, have a wonderful night. 782 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,800 Thanks again. I'll see you soon. Okay, thanks man, Okay, 783 00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:02,519 mine alright, y'all. Way was amazing. That was such a good time, 784 00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:09,519 y'all. They say you don't gotta go home, but you can stay. 785 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:42,400 Oh, I don't want to be with thee. We're all out trying 786 00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:49,199 to try to try everything. Call it right back, ride back my joy 787 00:57:49,440 --> 00:58:36,840 for me. Try to stay right now I'm calling right away, so said 788 00:58:37,679 --> 00:59:07,679 per back by posal for pay Polly bassissssssss