Hey, everybody, this is left Drive. Yes, yes, I know
aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch Honisty. He there,
and welcome back to Sasquatch Honyssey. Thank you so much for clicking play.
It is Sunday. I hope you have a great weekend. We have
an amazing show lined up for you. But before we get there, I
want to start by inviting you. If you've had an encounter and you'd like
to be on the show, shoot me an email and get me at Brian
at Paranamalworldproductions dot com. Get head over to the website, check it out,
become a member there and help support the show. I got invited on
a Bigfoot round table, and frankly, I haven't done a ton of these,
so I was really interested to see how it turned out out. But
I was on there with a pretty esteemed panel of people. I was on
there with Amy Boo, Sabylla Irwin, Doug Hichick, and Scott Tompkins of
the Bigfoot Mapping Project. We were on with DJ and Nathan and those folks
over at Calling All Beings, and it turned out to be a really long
conversation. So This is the first half of that conversation. It's about forty
five minutes or so, and most of this is spent talking about the couple
of questions about how do Sasquatch thermo regulate in the different climates that they're in
across the United States, and do they migrate and if so, what does
migration mean, what does that look like for them? It was some really
interesting conversation. This is part one of two that I'll be bringing you.
We've got another about forty five minutes worth of audio I'll bring to you guys
on the next episode. But it was a really cool conversation. I think
you guys are really going to enjoy it. So without further ado, I'm
gonna stop talking. You gotta sit back, relax, and enjoy the show.
Welcome back to Calling All Beings. We said we were gonna do it.
We done did it. We brought y'all a big foot round table with
some serious original gangsters in here. You're about to meet all of them.
Before we do that, let me say good evening to my co conspirator Nathan.
How are you, sir. I'm doing well, man. It's good
to be with you on this Tuesday evening. I'm excited for our first ever
Bigfoot round table, and it won't be our last one either. I think
this is gonna be a really good one. Though we're gonna set the bar
high tonight. I'm gonna be feeling about it. Yeah, this was your
idea. Thankfully you came up with the idea. And before we even go
any further in the show, I'd like to say that we're blessed that the
Bigfoot community has embraced us. And we've only been in as a group,
been in this for maybe a year, and the way that you guys have
agreed to come on to share your knowledge to edify us on the topic,
including phone calls and everything, we really do appreciate it. It's not something
that we overlook, Debs. So, Debs, I want to say this
while the whole group is here, because deb has just started a new show
called Nominalist Debates, and she's going her and her pH candidate co host are
going to be doing Lincoln Douglas style debates where everybody is welcome from each community,
whether it UAPs or bigfoot or paranormal. So if you want to debate
someone in that sort of format with the time limits and so forth. Please
reach out to Study of UAPs on Twitter and she'll get you hooked up.
How are you, ma'am? I think that it'll be an exciting year if
we can get some interesting conversations going. And it's already been an interesting year,
isn't it. Yes, Yes, it's a brilliant idea, it really
is. I don't know if you, oh, you guys maybe want to
comment after. I didn't know if we would see something like this. We
see arguing, we see fighting, but she's doing it in a very calm
format. You could watch the first episode they just did over the weekends on
the Calling All Beings Network. So, Nathan, let's bring everybody in ready
alight, So in alphabetical order, we're gonna go. She is the founder
of a project, Zubook. She's part of the Olympic Project. She's been
a BRFIRO investigator. Let's see, she was Researcher of the Year a couple
of times. She's from Ohio, Northeast Ohio. I'm only sorry that I
didn't get to meet her when I lived there, and men just to chat
with her on Facebook. You're gonna think the same thing thinking about Sybylla.
What a wonderful human being, Abe Boom. And now this gentleman right here.
If you've been in the topic for anything more than ten minutes and you
don't know this gentleman, you bet check yourself. Nathan, Okay, we're
talking about the producer. He said, Oh, there's no such thing.
I'm gonna a giant squid. I'm gonna get inside a beaver den. He
was the producer of Monster Quest, among other shows on National Geographics. He
said, oh gee, in the community, everybody knows him. They want
to know if they got something real, they send it to this man right
here. Put your hands together for Doug. Hi Jack, that's amazing,
DJ. I only do these shows because of DJ's introductions. Doug, that's
the only reason I wanted so, And I thought, I can just leave
now. Everybody's here because we knew that you would have really interesting thoughts and
diverse perspectives. And that's really what the community needs to hear. Right.
This other young lady has done research all over the South Texas. She's even
someone bought her property and said, hey, do you mind staying here and
find out what's going on with big my property? And she's like, oh
yeah, I'm up for that. And by the way, I'll go out
and camp in the woods with my truck for a few months, no fear,
no problem. She is a bigfoot artist, investigator, and just overall
bright light that we just love. And that is of course Miss Sybylla Irwins.
Oh, thank you for me. Oh, it's a pleasure to have
you. Thank you for kicking us up on this offer and educating this bunch
of green rookies. Next is the host of Sasquatched Odyssey podcast I heard because
I talked with interviewed this guy Harley this week who said this gentleman's going to
England to speak about bigfoot? Is that correct, sir? Yes, I
will be over there July the twentieth. I want to find out where and
all that, because we have, boy, we have a ton of British
friends. Nathan and I both been over there quite a bit. But he
is also the president of Paranormal World Productions. He also has a true crime
podcast. You just started a new podcast as well with another gentleman and a
young lady. What's the name of that one. There's a reason that my
name says host of too many podcasts because it's hard for me to keep them
all straight. There's backwoods horror stories that we just started. There's that Bigfoot
podcast with Wayne and I host over there. Yes, it's not encounters based.
It's more of a conversational kind of thing. We talk about things that
piss us off in Bigfoot. Sometimes. It's definitely a different show. It's
catching on quite rapidly. People seem to be enjoying that format, so it's
one of my favorite things to do. It's more conversational based. But yeah,
I got it. I gotta just red you bright. Everything you do
is catching on because everybody just wants you to come and speak. So that
is, of course. The retired Atlanta police officer who joined US for a
law enforcement specific paranormal Bigfoot and UAP podcast, Brian Dang Sure, North Carolina
and Georgia's own By the way, DJ, he's got a new book out.
You needn't even know. Oh, thank you. Oh he's no an
author too. What's the name of your book, Brian, Because that's just
released right Sasquatch Unleashed the Truth behind the Legend. Yeah, the presale's going
on now. The book will actually be out closer to the end of February
for everybody, but you can get it on pre sale now. Hit over
to Hanger one Publishing dot com and you'll see it right there. Shameless book
plugover. I appreciate it. No congratulations, and deb just started writing a
book, and I believe I don't know, Nathan, are you willing to
say that You're right? It's here, It's mostly here right now. Okay,
we don't want to talk about the one. It's everybody's gonna but it's
awesome. Now that we've taken care of mister Sharp, let's take care of
my man, my hometown homie who so let's get some data in here,
all right, Let's get some data so we can analyze, so we look
like we know what we talk about. And that, of course is the
hometown homie, the empresario of the Bigfoot Mapping Project, Scott top Day,
good to be here, Thank you, good introduction. I don't think you
can top that. I'm in Doug's boat, right I just leave Mythical Legends
podcasts and expedition. That's Daniel who we were talking about over at. It's
Daniel's event that I'll be speaking at. So far he's announced I will be
there in person. Doctor Jeff Meldrum's going to be doing a virtual will talk
for about an hour and during the event as well, and he's got other
guests that he's got lined up you'll be releasing over the next couple of weeks,
So we may as well stay with the last name convention Nathan, with
Amy going first, and then we'll just go Doug et cetera, and then
Brian Sibyla and then Scott. So what's going to happen is everybody will present
their topic, whether it be in the form of a statement or question,
and then all the other panelists will get a chance to react to that,
and then you guys can have some free play at the end and just converse
because I know you're all have enormous regards for one another. Amy Boo,
are you ready, my friend? I am ready go ahead with your with
your topic work question, ma'am. Okay. This is something we were just
talking about on a Project Zoo book chat recently. We were talking about if
sasquatch, bigfoot, the skuncape, whatever you want to call them, if
they are flesh and blood creat creatures, how would they adapt to the different
climate that are presented all across the United States and Canada. We know that
people are seeing them all over the place. How would they throw or regulate
if it was one hundred and twenty degrees in Texas. We were just talking
about Texas and the nice weather there. How would they thermo regulate if they
were up in the snows in Alaska? Something just fun to think about.
A lot of animals have to deal with this, and wondered if anybody had
any ideas. Go to Doug. I want to know everybody to talk to
who has a different answer. I want to get everybody's opinion on whether these
creatures do any form of migration or is it specifically geographic migration where they only
migrate in certain areas, or is there just no migration? The other question
I'd like to pose. I don't think I get to but I'm going to
know another one out You get too. But here's the thing you have to
do. We're we're all going to do Amy's question. Then you're then we're
going to go to yours. I don't know how this works. I'm just
gonna state whatever. I wonder what people think about bigfoots living on the edge
of humanity? Is that kind of their main Hay note, Amy will come
back to your question. Let's go with dougs. Was I supposed to answer
her question? Yes, yes, what happens well, Amy will present her
question, Gig, you got to realize that you're dealing with here. You're
dealing with somebody who's left my cell phone at home when I left today.
I tried to eat cereal with a fork. Anyhow, How did they thermal
regulate? Yes, all right, I would imagine that if if there is
any type of thermal regulating, they're doing it through some form of stupor,
like bears do. Bears will take and pump the blood from their extremities into
their core so they can either cool or they can stay warm, and I
would imagine that's the only way that it's done with big mammals. So my
guess that there would have to be some form and I don't mean hibernation,
but a form of stupid it's really hot, they crawl into a cool area,
their blood pumps from their extremities into their core, and therefore they can
regulate their temperature. So that would be my guess. That'd be the best
guess I can come up with. Nathan, I feel like we've got to
write Doug a check after that answer that was DJ DJ Since I start,
why don't you have people state their question and then answer, then they have
answer the one before it. Amy's goes all the way around. Then we'll
go check. Okay, okay, all right? So who do we go
when next? Is a miss Irwin Amy. I've often thought of that question
because we get such incredible temperatures here in South Texas where they have been,
So it's a question I've pondered so often. And I wonder if they sweat
like a horse will sweat. We sweat, obviously to cool ourselves down.
And I wonder if you think of the Pacific Northwest, like maybe the thickness
of the hair they have here as opposed to maybe because I have worked with
some individuals who have actually seen sasquatches with very thin hair, but they've seen
a lot of skin, so maybe their coats they don't have as much hair
down here, And I think that maybe that's why they're also seen quite off
in my water sources, Like maybe they cool off just like we do in
the water and stuff like that. That's the way I would think that they
do it. That's another great answer, Brian, Yeah, I tend to
agree with Doug and Sibylla. I think the opposite is true. For me,
I have always wondered more about the colder temperatures because they're seen so farther
north, and as far as I know, I may have heard one story
that I've collected over the years that suggest that they may have some sort of
fire usage, but other than that, there's really not a whole lot of
ways to stay warm. So that's one of the things that has always fascinated
me. When you talk about you're getting up into Canada, Alaska, in
those areas where these things are seen, how do they stay warm during those
extremely cold months. Because if you take a lowland gorilla, for example,
and take them out and drop them into Alaska, they're not going to be
able to survive. It's just that simple. So these things have to be
able to do something very similar to what Doug was talking about, possibly to
regulate their body temperature in some way. I don't necessarily think they hibernate,
but I think they could very much slow down their metabolism, possibly in some
way to survive in those colder temperatures. And very much like Sybylla said and
Doug said about regulating in the heat, I think sweat is a good question.
Do they do that, how do they do that? And using water
sources to stay warm, I think would make the most sense to me.
I know our creek is always freezing on our property, no matter what month
of the year it is. I've been out there and got in it myself
to cool down in the heat of the summer when I'm working outside. Fascinating
question though, Yeah, it's a great question. Also thinking their hunting habits
must change during the summer when they're the energy, the amount of energy they
want to expend. Even here in Texas where the temperatures get so high,
there's rivers that are sprays and they stay really cool, like all throughout the
entire SCE So I could see the news in that for sure. Yeah,
we have apes here too. Let's go with I think Scott is next,
right, Yeah, I'm going to break out an sat word here. I
think it's an eco geographical rule and amy they might have rut it up in
the coal, but it's Bergmann's rule and what that is it's basically larger body
size in colder climates because a larger body size allows those bigger animals like polar
bears is a good example, compared to black bears, to retain their body
heat. So I think in colder climates Bergmann's role could come into effect where
the bigfoot or sasquad have a lot your body size on average than perhaps bigfoot
or similar species in warmer climates. It's an established by biological rule, and
I think that it probably does apply. I think it's pretty logical. However,
I say that, and I know there's a lot of reports in my
database that say there's heap foot big foot in Texas. It's the first thing
that jumped to mind. Though, when you talk about temperature and regulating body
temperature and surviving cold climates, we need to zell it's got some money for
that answer. That was really good, Nathan. Did you and Debth have
anything you wanted to come in on that or I do have something? Yeah,
just real quick. I think I've been reading about tartar grades or water
bears, and it's fascinating what they do. They regulate by eliminating water in
their bodies and dehydrating themselves and then rehydrating. So when you hear about things
like that, and you're talking about an animal that hasn't been examined, at
least not publicly known about. Right, there's always a chance that there's something
way out there and left field we haven't thought of. I just wanted to
throw that out there. All can think about a couple of things, and
one is something to do. There are called thinking or reading about humans and
like the size of our brains and how energy regulation and temperature regulation is so
important to maintain an optimum temperature for the brain tissue. We think about bigfoot
and how high the head might be and what's the size of their cranial mass.
I think about the temperature regulation there, and then also think about their
habitat. We don't seemingly haven't heard a lot of accounts of them having dens
or living in caves, But typically if you had a habitat like that,
you might have a way to better regulate temperature because in a cave the temperature
is generally about the same throughout the year if you go deep enough inside of
that. So, yeah, really interesting to think about. That's a good
one. We've got to get Will lauancepord On here from Arkansas bigfoot investigator talk
about some caves and those art stuff. That would be awesome. So Doug,
it's your turn, sir, But your question, I was going to
answer another point to any question. One thing that people don't realize is that
throughout the northern latitudes there are peat bogs. These peat bogs get very warm
in the winter. They're warm all year, but they're extremely warm in the
winter. And we've done some studies in peat bogs and putting up camera traps.
I don't want to end in a long story, but there has been
some evidence presented to us that there were bigfoots in the areas right in the
middle of a warm peatbog up in northern Minnesota. So that could be another
way in the winter time that they seek more moderate temperatures by just taking up
residents in a peatbog over the winter, like snow Monkey's gone in the hot
springs. Yeah, it's the decaying vegetation that causes all this heat. Sometimes
thirty forty fifty feet down and it just produces a hell of a lot of
heats. Seems like they would want to bed down there for the night.
And also I'm sure Amy can get into later on, maybe get into the
bedding a little bit that she's seen and if there's any sort of a covering,
because they've found the beds, but I was curious if I've created any
sort of a cover. I don't know. Do you have anything on that,
Amy? Real quickly, Well, if you're talking about the nests with
the Olympic Project, they don't really have a covering except for the trees that
canopy above them, which is one of the biggest reasons why I don't think
it's people making them, because if it was people, right away started asking
why couldn't it be a person, a hermit out there or something like that.
I don't want to get into that too much, but there's a lot
of reasons why I don't think it's people. But one of them is because
there's no really good covering to protect a human being. Yeah, it's not
how we would construct a shelter that many feet thick, but nothing to cover
you from the elements. Right, Doug, did you want to present your
question? Please? No, I still want to talk about Amy's question.
Oh please, Glad, and I ask you why I asked why I asked
it. It's a great question. Yeah, Please stay tuned for more Sasquatch
outyssey. We'll be right back after these messages. The big reason, besides
the fact that we were talking about it with some of the projects do books
scientists, I had been reading about how some primates when it gets too hot
out labell can't to let off some of that. So I was trying to
match that up with any kind of Bigfoot reports where there was that kind of
behavior. And I specifically wanted to ask Scott. I was going to see
if you said anything on your own, but have you ever heard any anything
like that? I haven't read anything in the reports that have come in,
and even in I just digitized and plotted John Green's historical database and I read
through a lot of almost all those reports as oh, I didn't see anything
about panting. Now you bring it up, that's them breathing, strange or
I've heard of them opening their mouths. So now I'm curious, could that
be panting? I don't know. I don't want to read into it or
make something up if it's not there. Just wondering about that. Yeah,
I think that mouth breathing is a way to I think the Tibetans do that
with they say if you breathe through your nose, you'll build up more interior
heat. They'll sit outside and wet those red robes and they'll dry them just
with their breathing, and it's a lot of nose inhale and exhaled through the
nose, whereas if you're trying to cool off, you use your mouth like
a dog does, or like we've just talked about that the some of the
primates too, So Doug I was gonna mention, I don't have as much
concern of them cool enough because these creatures are never seen far from water.
Never. It's just almost ninety eight percent chances they are going to be within
yards of water, so they can use water to cool off. And then
when you're hot, you just go inactive, you find shade and pretty much
can get by even on the hottest days if you're resting. But in the
wintertime, it's another story, another way that an animal like a big foot
could keep warm in the winter. Besides, pete bogs is literally just covering
themselves with snow. Snow is ninety eight percent air, the great insulator,
and that will preserve a lot of the body heat. So just by them
raking snow over their body, they're going to be quite comfortable. I'd suggest
anybody get a chance to try it. Put a foot of snow over your
body, and you're really quite warm. And I really think like Sobilla said
that probably the hair for whatever it is, would change depending on the climate
too. Yeah, I would think so. I love that you mentioned that's
villa. Next question, go ahead, Hi, check, I already gave
my question. Okay, do it again? Do it again? I see
what I can remember. I am always debating with people and never seem to
get any kind of consistent answer, and that is, do these things do
they migrate to get into more comfortable temperature zones? Do they only migrate maybe
from Minnesota, the ones in the Midwest where it gets really cold, the
bread basket? Do they migrate south? Do the ones on the coast barely
migrate because it's more temperate, the ones in Washington It never really gets twenty
below there, but here we get twenty thirty forty below zero. Do they
migrate? And do they migrate for reasons of comfort or could it be just
reasons for food sources or if they're truly meat eaters, maybe because meat is
three sixty five what's three hundred and sixty five days a year. So those
are all the complicated confusion questions with migration, and I would think Scotland with
the mapping project would be forming some opinions, and I'd love to hear certainly
some of Scott's, but just people in general, what do they think about
migration, because it's confusing. Also, the other statement about migration, maybe
this aids in us not being able to really track them because what if some
say the healthy ones say I want to stick it out in Minnesota, and
what if older ones go, hey, I'm just going to try to make
a living here. I'm not up for that long eight hundred mile walk.
So those are some of the questions and sub questions that I would really love
to get some more opinions on the billity. I have heard some witnesses talk
about seeing sasquad just following a migration of elk, that we're leaving Colorado and
going for New Mexico because New Mexico there was a Native American reservation just right
there, and that they were leaving Colorado and heading to New Mexico. I
think that there is migration following the elkers for that group. Think it's really
sight and reaching specific about whether they migrate or not. I do know that
when I was living in Kentucky on that research project, when it was hunting
season and all the hunters were out in the fields doing their hunting, I
had zero activity. Like the Sasquatches literally just went dark. They seem to
understand and there were plots of land that were hunted, and there were plots
of land like tons of acres that was never hunted. There were sidings in
the areas that were never hunted, and there were zero sidings in the areas.
That doesn't really pertain to migration, but it does seem to point to
the fact that they really understand some of the viral activities and how to avoid
us when they need to. They're so intelligent. It's just unbelievable how they've
figured out how to maneuver around us. I know, that's like a whole
show in itself there, mister king Sharp, I just have to go with
my gut on this because I don't have enough data to speak in intelligently about
it, because I really haven't studied the migration of Sasquatch. I don't think
anybody really knows obviously, everything we're talking about subjective. My gut has always
told me no, and I don't really know outside of that, just to
say it's my gut feeling. It doesn't make sense to me that they would
migrate, because if they are as elusive as I believe them to be,
migration opens up a whole nother litany of problems for these things to go from
one place to another. Like Doug said, you're talking thirty forty below in
Minnesota, they may have to go eight hundred miles to get to a more
temperate climate in the middle of the winter. It just doesn't make sense to
me that they're doing that across the country, let's say, because I think
if they were, we would have more sightings of these things in certain times
of the year, like winter, when it would make sense that they were
doing this migration. That's why my gut has always told me no. Of
course, like most things, I'm usually wrong a lot of the time,
so I could certainly be wrong about this, but my gut has always told
me no. I don't think that they migrate. Again, That's about as
intelligently as I can speak about it, because I don't have anything other than
my gut that tells me that you're in great company. And then I think
the question would be what constitutes migration. Is it just that they're going several
miles away or double digit miles away, that could be a form of migration.
I don't know. I guess I don't know the definition, but I'll
bet you that Scott pumpkin stuff. I happen to be a hunter Sibyla,
and I've also done analysis on some of the big Foot sightings in the database.
Seasonally, my first comment would be along the lines of migration. I'll
use mule deer for example, and elk. They have a summer range and
a winter range, right, so some elk sometimes are very Their summer range
can be up in high elevation, right, and then their winter ranges down
in like farm fields and things like that. That don't happen to be that
far away in a linear distance, but if you go up in elevation,
they're really it's a big change in climate and the environment that they're in.
I guess I'm going with that would be what I've seen in the analysis that
I've done. I think if you were to say migration, I think bigfoot.
And this is my opinion based just solely I'll send you the post that
I did a couple of years ago. There's a winter range, and I
think what I've seen in the data is that it's actually more spread out.
The sightings are further apart, and if you think about food availability, that
might be why. Right, it's more scarce, particularly in the northeast,
is where I saw a more spread out range in the winter, and then
spring comes along and it starts to concentrate. Summer is the most concentrated time
that I've seen in the map anyway, and then fall they start to spread
out again. So that could be for a lot of reasons. It could
be for mating, it could be for food availability, it could be for
weather, or all of the above. So in short, I think,
yes, they do regionally migrate, if that could be a term I could
coin, like a winter range and a summer range situation similar to elk and
mule deer. But as far as long ranging migrations like from hundreds or thousands
of miles, I don't see that in the data. But then again,
who's to say that the database that I've got is complete. We're still working
on it, But based on what I've analyzed, I think there's a regional
migration based on again either mating, food availability, and weather and seasonal change.
That's what I'm seeing so far. I know this would be more in
the realm of subjective, but do you got feel like that those teenagers when
they get to a certain age, they have to leave that troop, if
you will, where there's an alpha male in place, it's possible. Going
back to elk again, there's like satellite bulls and they roam looking for a
herd or for females. So yeah, I think it's possible. But that's
where data is key, and really to get reliable reports to be able to
say that authoritatively. That's a tough one because how does somebody who sees a
bigfoot for the first time know the age or the gender, etc. So
I think it's using known wildlife as a model. Yes, I think it's
possible, but I don't have anything in the data set to authoritatively say yeah,
I think that's happening. Great scientists, we have to tell us what
you do at some point during the show. But let's go to amy.
I think I agree with everybody that I don't think the term migration maybe is
the best word, because as far as most people are thinking of geese flying
south and going long distances, but we do have some evidence of if you're
looking at track evidence, where there will be the tracks that look like they're
from the same animal that show up several miles away many years later or even
closer in time. So if those are legitimate tracks, then it seems like
they do move around quite a bit. I have an app called follow Fahlo.
It's not my app, but I downloaded the app where you can buy
a bracelet that will follow like a gorilla or an elephant, and it gives
money to help the animals, and you could see how they move around and
things. So they definitely move around for food, maybe the climate. I
agree with whoever it was that said it would really depend on if they have
to move. If they don't have to move, I don't think they would
move much. But if they need to move around a little bit or a
lot to follow food, then for sure. And I was glad that you
brought it up. This is what I was waiting to say, is that,
for my understanding, gorillas do leave one group to go to another group
to help protect the breeding population, especially if there aren't that many sawcequatch,
and my personal belief is there could be less than we think. I don't
know that, of course. I'm just thinking of like the Cross River gorillas.
They think they're only two to three hundred left in the wild now,
and they would have to be objective of their breeding population. Yes, like
you said, j the younger male gorillas will go to another troop because they
aren't allowed to be back with the main silver back, so they go over
there for that reason. And you said that too, Scott, about mating.
So that is something again, if they are a natural creature, if
they are some type of a primate, it would depend on whether they're closer
to in orangutangrilla or a human. But I could see that would be a
possibility that they leave. Yeah, And I was going to say, I
think people have extrapolated upon You'll see people that have seen a male and a
female or a group of female a while the male looks really well coaffed and
taken care of, and then they'll see one that looks not quite as large
but really scraggly hair, dirty hair, and so you can build an errative
out of that. It's anecdotal, but on something like they say anecdotes are
a form of evidence. There may not be proof, but they're evidence.
So interesting. I'm talking to Brian, He's going to be like, yo,
let me get my book out. Okay. So I think did we
get everybody did? As did mister Hydecheck need to get in. Help me
out, Nathan. Where we're at. We're good. Unless deb may have
a comment, I don't know. She wants to yes, yes, please.
I wanted to add one more point. Migration is something that a lot
of more intelligent primates have done in the whole create eight family. One of
the reasons we know that is because they diversified, and from what I've heard,
there is some diversity with Sasquatch. So I just wanted to throw that
out there as a potential piece of evidence. That's another great topic to that
whole line. Nathan, did you have anything? I was going to mention
that to me, it seems to be a sort of a function of energy
and caloric need. So what is their diet their creature of the size that
they would have to be, being so tall, so muscular, et cetera.
What is their primary food source? And I would think it would need
to be something that would be very color dense, energy rich. Otherwise they
have to consume a tremendous amount of vegetation to meet the calork needs that they
would have, and migration, I would imagine, would be really tethered to
the food that they need to sustain their biomass. And so that you think
about a huge creature. The more they have to travel, the more energy
they actually need to be able to do that. So maybe they do travel
with these birds because that might be their primary food source. Yeah. When
I went to survival school, they talk about that over and over, about
expending energy when you're in a survival situation and how many calories you're going to
need to go do X, Y and z. And of course these shows
like a Loan they talk about that as well, but they hit that over
and over and survival school, I feel such a big responsibility to people when
they ask me this question, and I would love to hear from ans Pianel,
like, how do they answer this question when people ask it? Are
these beings dangerous? I'm working tomorrow with the man who literally says the only
reason he's alive is because they have weapons. And then there, on the
other hand, you have people who have like the one man who the sense
squatch was doing sign language to speak to him. So you have these experiences
all of the spectrum, from the most aggressive to just they're curious about you.
So I'd love to know how the people in this fiannel feel about just
how dangerous are these creatures being right, great question. I can tell you.
I have never been of the opinion that every sasquatch out there is out
to kill everybody. They're responsible for every person who goes missing and the national
parks across the country. But I can tell you this from personal experience.
I've talked to a lot of people who have had experiences. There have been
some hair raising experiences that I've documented on my show, at least just recently.
I had a gentleman come on First Nations from up and he's in Alaska,
and he was talking about He started his channel talking about these things are
not our friends. He got into their oral history, and their oral history
is nothing but warnings about the hairy Man. It has played out time and
time and again in his life and the life of some of the elders that
he is associated with and his friends and family. He told a harrowing story
on my show just last week about having to shoot his way out of a
cabin. That's Fred, right, that Fred, Yes, Okay, so
I'm going to be doing his witness sketches. He mentioned that they're indipity,
right, and I'm very excited to see that You're going to work with him
and come up with some of these images because his stories are so compelling,
and I believe every word that comes out of Fred's mouth, to be quite
honest with he has no dog in the fight to be telling anything other than
the truth here, and other people I've had on the show that have talked
about very scary encounters with these things. So if they are large primates,
and I believe that they are, they have the propensity, just like human
beings, to be very dangerous creatures. I think these things have personalities very
similar to people. They are nice people and they are horrible people. There
are people who kill in rage, and there are serial killers. I'm certainly
not trying to put those traits on any sasquatch by any means, so please
don't quote me there. But I said all that to say I think there
is the propensity for that to be there in these creatures just like in human
beings. So I think they can be very dangerous. And I think that
everybody who goes out looking for these things needs to be careful. And I
think you need to have your head on a swivel, and I think you
need to be smart about doing your research and go out in payers at least
with other people, and be prepared. Some people don't like to carry weapons.
I don't go hiking on my forty acres here without a weapon because of
bears. I don't want to shoot a bear, but I don't want to
be mauled by one either. I certainly don't want to be killed by a
sasquatch. I don't want to kill a sasquatch, But you need to protect
yourself, and I think you have to be smart. So long winded way
to say, I think these things are dangerous. I think they can be
dangerous. Are they all dangerous, bloodthirsty killers? By no, st the
imagination. They're just like bears, They're just like gorillas. They're like any
other large primate and or large dangerous mammals. You have to treat them with
respect and the propensity for dangers always there. Can't argue with that. And
there's enough encounters where they've walked through campsites and not touched anybody's stuff. Do
you have to take down intoccount? But you also it's a dangerous animal.
I just want to say for everybody out there, this is calling all beings
and man, what an amazing back we have tonight. You guys are just
killing it, just exactly like we thought you would go with that. Let's
see, right after mister Sharp goes Tompkins cool, I'm going to repeat something
my grandmother had to hammer into me when I was a kid, is don't
touch wild animals. So I think sasquatch are wild animals, and along the
same lines like Brian was saying, situationally, it depends on how they're going
to behave and what they perceive that if you're a threat or not right.
For example, if a mother bear has cubs or an alligator is near its
nest, that natural instinct tech they're young, is going to kick in and
they become lethal, right, But any other time they may avoid you and
just go a different way. So I think it really depends on, because
they have a higher intellect, how they perceive that person's behavior. If they
recognize weapons and pattern that if they think you're infringing on their territory, as
an alpha male might think. So, I think my answer is yes,
they can be dangerous. I agree with that, but I do think that
they don't necessarily behave that way all the time. I think it's a reaction
more than it is a habit with these creatures, depending on what they perceive
that we're doing in their world. Absolutely, miss Amy, I agree with
what the gentleman said before me. If they are some type of a natural,
earthly creature, I would just say, Mama, Barry like you did,
Scott, I'm a nice person, but go after my daughter. And
I'm not so. I would think that any type of an animal, or
even if they're closer to a human, would do the same. Just to
play Devil's advocate here, because I think everybody knows that my interest in Sasquatch
is based on whether or not they could be a living, breathing, cooping,
mating animal. Right, That's how I look at them. That's my
interest, not saying I'm right, but if they were something different, say
something spiritual. And I'm seeing different comments in the chat, which I greatly
respect other people's ideas I hope that they wouldn't be just all good. And
I don't know if that sounds really weird, but to me, something that
would have no ability to show, even like righteous anger or something like that,
would be they wouldn't have any kind of free will, you know what
I mean. So I know I'm getting out there, but even if you're
looking at it in a different way, I think there's always the potential of
getting angry, right, I don't know. It's trying to think outside of
the box here. But as for as an animal, and we talk a
lot about different primates, I always say much rather meet a gorilla than a
chimpanzee out in the woods. They're very different. But I don't want to
mate I'm at gorilla either. Yeah, I think that they could be dangerous.
Stay tuned for more Sasquatch Odyssey. We'll be right back after these messages.
The only chimp I'd want to meet would be a bonobo. That's it.
Yes, that could be okay, Yeah, your students must absolutely love
you, Amy, I'm sure I was Gonnaci. I get to ask this
on Doug Show. But like we say, living breathing, flesh and blood
or something else, I like to say absolutely. I believe it's a living,
breathing flesh creature, animal, art, human, whatever you want to
call it. But like humans, there are humans that have some extraordinary abilities
remote viewing, we can get into psychokinesis all these different things, is it
possible that some of them have an ability even though it's a flesh and leading
creature. That way, we don't don't have to say you're either on this
side or you're on that side. Maybe there's a middle, verably agree,
and a lot of things that are paranormal we just can't explain, I think.
And we have ghosts Doug Satman's house. Is it possible they have ghosts
too when they die and they're chilling around in Saltwork State Park where they found
a great home for maybe twenty thirty years or more. Yeah, I don't
know. Why does it have to be either or you're either flesh and blood
or you're spiritual. Why can't it be a mixture of those things? Like
we are where flesh and blood and we're spiritual beings? This good boy?
That's right, great points villa. All right, did dev and Nathan have
anything? Mister? How check sir? Oh? Okay? I think Brian
started it out really good. You're dealing with probably an animal or a creature
that generally operates on fear because they do stay out of trouble most of the
time. They don't run into a small town and start tearing awnings off buildings.
Okay, so they operate on fear like a black bear, so they're
reserved. But I think they're very individual. I think just like people,
they've got more curious ones, less curious ones, wise ones, naive ones.
You've got different sexes They're going to behave differently. That really becomes hard
to then put some kind of pattern on them, to put a label on
them. Obviously, I've experienced their explosive temper, so I do believe if
you surprise them, they have an explosive temper like a chimp or even a
gorilla. They can explode to and just It doesn't mean they're going to kill
somebody, but they might grab you by the leg and drag you up the
hill quick just to show you whose boss because you startle them. Black bears
are the same way. I've been in many close one foot away with mother
with cubs and everything's cool, but I'll do something just a little wrong that
I don't even know what I did, and it'll set her off explosively and
she'll swatch you or swat the ground. And I think they're a lot like
that, you know, so you maintain your distance, don't do anything rash.
I think you're generally safe. But there may be also bigfoots that have
got a health problem. They're starving, they're ornery, they've got a thorn
in their foot, they're of an injury, and like wild animals, those
animals are going to be more dangerous if they're starving and whatnot. And so
that's it, and that's back to the even the migration thing. I think
we're just dealing with so many individuals that do so many different things. There's
no pattern except for some patterns, and so it becomes a really tough thing
to get a handle on, far harder than like a troop of gorillas that
eat a very few different types of plants have very similar habits. I think
big Foo, but they're all over the map, will Ins. But that's
when you're yeah, do you take Venmo, Doug, Yeah, I take
Veno, Yeah, good Sony Cortland's Allan, Scott Tompkins. But even bears,
like Brian had mentioned taking a gun when he goes out because of the
black bears. Generally you're okay, but man if you get a bad one,
but you'd hate to be unarmed. And that does happen. There are
black bear attacks. They're rare, but they do happen. And no doubt
there's bigfoot attacks that we don't know anything about because there's nobody surviving to tell
the tale. Well, big one, bigfoot wants to get you. It's
gonna drag you off. There's no doubt in my mind you're going to be
dragged away into the woods. You're probably not going to be killed right then
and there. You're going to be dragged away and you probably are going to
be killed. But I just know that there's a great range of individuals with
these things, and I don't say for sure. Yes they have an explosive
temper, but I'm still here. They didn't kill me. There's a lot
of anecdotes that suggest that they're far more where people walked away or it walked
away than there are anecdotes where someone was injured. Of course, I think
it was Ohio Amy where those two fishermen they got close to that island.
The rock started coming off that little island. Then he exited the boat with
his cousin in there was ranger. He took through a rock and then it
came flying out of the woods and whacked him and broke his ribs, and
they had like a forty five minute troll back to the car. Like everybody
was saying, you hear stories about that, but personally, I don't think
there's not that you were saying it, but it just thought about. I
don't think is there any maliciousness or evil intent behind it. I think it's
more just get out of here. He was alone. This is where I
fish, not you. The fact that they throw rocks should tell everybody they
don't want to confront you. The rock throwing alone is mainly to warn you
without confrontation. They don't want an altercation. That old cliche about them just
operating on fear, which has helped them survive all these years. It's a
survival mechanism. That's why black bears are scared of their own shadows. It's
helped them survive. Black bears evolved during they had to survive when they were
sabertoothed tigers roaming and so that's why black bears are so skittish. We don't
have the saber tooth tigers now, but boy, they know their place.
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