WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.160 Hey, everybody, this is left Drive. Yes, yes, I know 2 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:30.079 aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch Honisty. He there, 3 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:33.880 and welcome back to Sasquatch Honyssey. Thank you so much for clicking play. 4 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:36.880 It is Sunday. I hope you have a great weekend. We have 5 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:39.439 an amazing show lined up for you. But before we get there, I 6 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:42.920 want to start by inviting you. If you've had an encounter and you'd like 7 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:45.719 to be on the show, shoot me an email and get me at Brian 8 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:49.359 at Paranamalworldproductions dot com. Get head over to the website, check it out, 9 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:53.880 become a member there and help support the show. I got invited on 10 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:57.880 a Bigfoot round table, and frankly, I haven't done a ton of these, 11 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.560 so I was really interested to see how it turned out out. But 12 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:03.399 I was on there with a pretty esteemed panel of people. I was on 13 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:07.879 there with Amy Boo, Sabylla Irwin, Doug Hichick, and Scott Tompkins of 14 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.239 the Bigfoot Mapping Project. We were on with DJ and Nathan and those folks 15 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:15.799 over at Calling All Beings, and it turned out to be a really long 16 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.840 conversation. So This is the first half of that conversation. It's about forty 17 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:23.400 five minutes or so, and most of this is spent talking about the couple 18 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:27.760 of questions about how do Sasquatch thermo regulate in the different climates that they're in 19 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:32.879 across the United States, and do they migrate and if so, what does 20 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:36.200 migration mean, what does that look like for them? It was some really 21 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:40.159 interesting conversation. This is part one of two that I'll be bringing you. 22 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:42.120 We've got another about forty five minutes worth of audio I'll bring to you guys 23 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:46.000 on the next episode. But it was a really cool conversation. I think 24 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:49.719 you guys are really going to enjoy it. So without further ado, I'm 25 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.120 gonna stop talking. You gotta sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. 26 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:16.599 Welcome back to Calling All Beings. We said we were gonna do it. 27 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:21.800 We done did it. We brought y'all a big foot round table with 28 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:27.080 some serious original gangsters in here. You're about to meet all of them. 29 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:31.199 Before we do that, let me say good evening to my co conspirator Nathan. 30 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:34.680 How are you, sir. I'm doing well, man. It's good 31 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:38.120 to be with you on this Tuesday evening. I'm excited for our first ever 32 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:40.120 Bigfoot round table, and it won't be our last one either. I think 33 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:43.360 this is gonna be a really good one. Though we're gonna set the bar 34 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:46.319 high tonight. I'm gonna be feeling about it. Yeah, this was your 35 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:49.560 idea. Thankfully you came up with the idea. And before we even go 36 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:53.439 any further in the show, I'd like to say that we're blessed that the 37 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:58.719 Bigfoot community has embraced us. And we've only been in as a group, 38 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:00.919 been in this for maybe a year, and the way that you guys have 39 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:07.199 agreed to come on to share your knowledge to edify us on the topic, 40 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:09.879 including phone calls and everything, we really do appreciate it. It's not something 41 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:14.879 that we overlook, Debs. So, Debs, I want to say this 42 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:19.120 while the whole group is here, because deb has just started a new show 43 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:24.520 called Nominalist Debates, and she's going her and her pH candidate co host are 44 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:30.800 going to be doing Lincoln Douglas style debates where everybody is welcome from each community, 45 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:35.680 whether it UAPs or bigfoot or paranormal. So if you want to debate 46 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:39.479 someone in that sort of format with the time limits and so forth. Please 47 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:44.800 reach out to Study of UAPs on Twitter and she'll get you hooked up. 48 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:49.280 How are you, ma'am? I think that it'll be an exciting year if 49 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:53.840 we can get some interesting conversations going. And it's already been an interesting year, 50 00:03:53.919 --> 00:04:00.000 isn't it. Yes, Yes, it's a brilliant idea, it really 51 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:01.159 is. I don't know if you, oh, you guys maybe want to 52 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:03.960 comment after. I didn't know if we would see something like this. We 53 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:08.680 see arguing, we see fighting, but she's doing it in a very calm 54 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:12.479 format. You could watch the first episode they just did over the weekends on 55 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:16.199 the Calling All Beings Network. So, Nathan, let's bring everybody in ready 56 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:23.399 alight, So in alphabetical order, we're gonna go. She is the founder 57 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:27.199 of a project, Zubook. She's part of the Olympic Project. She's been 58 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:31.279 a BRFIRO investigator. Let's see, she was Researcher of the Year a couple 59 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:34.560 of times. She's from Ohio, Northeast Ohio. I'm only sorry that I 60 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:39.000 didn't get to meet her when I lived there, and men just to chat 61 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:42.600 with her on Facebook. You're gonna think the same thing thinking about Sybylla. 62 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:46.920 What a wonderful human being, Abe Boom. And now this gentleman right here. 63 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:51.040 If you've been in the topic for anything more than ten minutes and you 64 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:56.639 don't know this gentleman, you bet check yourself. Nathan, Okay, we're 65 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:59.519 talking about the producer. He said, Oh, there's no such thing. 66 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:03.519 I'm gonna a giant squid. I'm gonna get inside a beaver den. He 67 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:09.279 was the producer of Monster Quest, among other shows on National Geographics. He 68 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:12.800 said, oh gee, in the community, everybody knows him. They want 69 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:15.279 to know if they got something real, they send it to this man right 70 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:18.680 here. Put your hands together for Doug. Hi Jack, that's amazing, 71 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:23.560 DJ. I only do these shows because of DJ's introductions. Doug, that's 72 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:28.959 the only reason I wanted so, And I thought, I can just leave 73 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:33.040 now. Everybody's here because we knew that you would have really interesting thoughts and 74 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:38.120 diverse perspectives. And that's really what the community needs to hear. Right. 75 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:44.360 This other young lady has done research all over the South Texas. She's even 76 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:46.920 someone bought her property and said, hey, do you mind staying here and 77 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.079 find out what's going on with big my property? And she's like, oh 78 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:53.759 yeah, I'm up for that. And by the way, I'll go out 79 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:56.879 and camp in the woods with my truck for a few months, no fear, 80 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:01.480 no problem. She is a bigfoot artist, investigator, and just overall 81 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:05.920 bright light that we just love. And that is of course Miss Sybylla Irwins. 82 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:11.040 Oh, thank you for me. Oh, it's a pleasure to have 83 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:14.240 you. Thank you for kicking us up on this offer and educating this bunch 84 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:19.360 of green rookies. Next is the host of Sasquatched Odyssey podcast I heard because 85 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:24.439 I talked with interviewed this guy Harley this week who said this gentleman's going to 86 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:28.160 England to speak about bigfoot? Is that correct, sir? Yes, I 87 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:30.199 will be over there July the twentieth. I want to find out where and 88 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:33.040 all that, because we have, boy, we have a ton of British 89 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:36.319 friends. Nathan and I both been over there quite a bit. But he 90 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:41.439 is also the president of Paranormal World Productions. He also has a true crime 91 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:46.639 podcast. You just started a new podcast as well with another gentleman and a 92 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:49.199 young lady. What's the name of that one. There's a reason that my 93 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:53.759 name says host of too many podcasts because it's hard for me to keep them 94 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:58.480 all straight. There's backwoods horror stories that we just started. There's that Bigfoot 95 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:01.319 podcast with Wayne and I host over there. Yes, it's not encounters based. 96 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:04.079 It's more of a conversational kind of thing. We talk about things that 97 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:08.480 piss us off in Bigfoot. Sometimes. It's definitely a different show. It's 98 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:12.759 catching on quite rapidly. People seem to be enjoying that format, so it's 99 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:15.439 one of my favorite things to do. It's more conversational based. But yeah, 100 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:17.639 I got it. I gotta just red you bright. Everything you do 101 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:20.959 is catching on because everybody just wants you to come and speak. So that 102 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:25.439 is, of course. The retired Atlanta police officer who joined US for a 103 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:32.839 law enforcement specific paranormal Bigfoot and UAP podcast, Brian Dang Sure, North Carolina 104 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:36.399 and Georgia's own By the way, DJ, he's got a new book out. 105 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:40.600 You needn't even know. Oh, thank you. Oh he's no an 106 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:44.000 author too. What's the name of your book, Brian, Because that's just 107 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:47.800 released right Sasquatch Unleashed the Truth behind the Legend. Yeah, the presale's going 108 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:50.920 on now. The book will actually be out closer to the end of February 109 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:54.560 for everybody, but you can get it on pre sale now. Hit over 110 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:59.040 to Hanger one Publishing dot com and you'll see it right there. Shameless book 111 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:03.720 plugover. I appreciate it. No congratulations, and deb just started writing a 112 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:07.040 book, and I believe I don't know, Nathan, are you willing to 113 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:11.120 say that You're right? It's here, It's mostly here right now. Okay, 114 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:16.120 we don't want to talk about the one. It's everybody's gonna but it's 115 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:20.000 awesome. Now that we've taken care of mister Sharp, let's take care of 116 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:24.639 my man, my hometown homie who so let's get some data in here, 117 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:28.160 all right, Let's get some data so we can analyze, so we look 118 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:31.240 like we know what we talk about. And that, of course is the 119 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:37.000 hometown homie, the empresario of the Bigfoot Mapping Project, Scott top Day, 120 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:39.919 good to be here, Thank you, good introduction. I don't think you 121 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:45.200 can top that. I'm in Doug's boat, right I just leave Mythical Legends 122 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:52.519 podcasts and expedition. That's Daniel who we were talking about over at. It's 123 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:56.000 Daniel's event that I'll be speaking at. So far he's announced I will be 124 00:08:56.039 --> 00:09:01.039 there in person. Doctor Jeff Meldrum's going to be doing a virtual will talk 125 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:03.720 for about an hour and during the event as well, and he's got other 126 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:07.320 guests that he's got lined up you'll be releasing over the next couple of weeks, 127 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:13.399 So we may as well stay with the last name convention Nathan, with 128 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.240 Amy going first, and then we'll just go Doug et cetera, and then 129 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:22.279 Brian Sibyla and then Scott. So what's going to happen is everybody will present 130 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:26.039 their topic, whether it be in the form of a statement or question, 131 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:28.639 and then all the other panelists will get a chance to react to that, 132 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:33.159 and then you guys can have some free play at the end and just converse 133 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:37.159 because I know you're all have enormous regards for one another. Amy Boo, 134 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:41.120 are you ready, my friend? I am ready go ahead with your with 135 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:46.200 your topic work question, ma'am. Okay. This is something we were just 136 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:52.840 talking about on a Project Zoo book chat recently. We were talking about if 137 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:56.799 sasquatch, bigfoot, the skuncape, whatever you want to call them, if 138 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:03.799 they are flesh and blood creat creatures, how would they adapt to the different 139 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:11.120 climate that are presented all across the United States and Canada. We know that 140 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:13.840 people are seeing them all over the place. How would they throw or regulate 141 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.240 if it was one hundred and twenty degrees in Texas. We were just talking 142 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:22.320 about Texas and the nice weather there. How would they thermo regulate if they 143 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:28.120 were up in the snows in Alaska? Something just fun to think about. 144 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:33.240 A lot of animals have to deal with this, and wondered if anybody had 145 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:37.000 any ideas. Go to Doug. I want to know everybody to talk to 146 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:41.039 who has a different answer. I want to get everybody's opinion on whether these 147 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:48.320 creatures do any form of migration or is it specifically geographic migration where they only 148 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:54.639 migrate in certain areas, or is there just no migration? The other question 149 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:58.039 I'd like to pose. I don't think I get to but I'm going to 150 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.960 know another one out You get too. But here's the thing you have to 151 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.720 do. We're we're all going to do Amy's question. Then you're then we're 152 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.200 going to go to yours. I don't know how this works. I'm just 153 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:16.759 gonna state whatever. I wonder what people think about bigfoots living on the edge 154 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:22.200 of humanity? Is that kind of their main Hay note, Amy will come 155 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:26.480 back to your question. Let's go with dougs. Was I supposed to answer 156 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:30.080 her question? Yes, yes, what happens well, Amy will present her 157 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:33.840 question, Gig, you got to realize that you're dealing with here. You're 158 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:37.039 dealing with somebody who's left my cell phone at home when I left today. 159 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:41.120 I tried to eat cereal with a fork. Anyhow, How did they thermal 160 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:46.879 regulate? Yes, all right, I would imagine that if if there is 161 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:52.919 any type of thermal regulating, they're doing it through some form of stupor, 162 00:11:52.360 --> 00:12:00.840 like bears do. Bears will take and pump the blood from their extremities into 163 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:05.200 their core so they can either cool or they can stay warm, and I 164 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:11.240 would imagine that's the only way that it's done with big mammals. So my 165 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:15.559 guess that there would have to be some form and I don't mean hibernation, 166 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:20.279 but a form of stupid it's really hot, they crawl into a cool area, 167 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:26.039 their blood pumps from their extremities into their core, and therefore they can 168 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:28.519 regulate their temperature. So that would be my guess. That'd be the best 169 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:31.240 guess I can come up with. Nathan, I feel like we've got to 170 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:37.360 write Doug a check after that answer that was DJ DJ Since I start, 171 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:41.039 why don't you have people state their question and then answer, then they have 172 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:43.759 answer the one before it. Amy's goes all the way around. Then we'll 173 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:48.080 go check. Okay, okay, all right? So who do we go 174 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:52.120 when next? Is a miss Irwin Amy. I've often thought of that question 175 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:58.679 because we get such incredible temperatures here in South Texas where they have been, 176 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:05.519 So it's a question I've pondered so often. And I wonder if they sweat 177 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:09.399 like a horse will sweat. We sweat, obviously to cool ourselves down. 178 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:13.360 And I wonder if you think of the Pacific Northwest, like maybe the thickness 179 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:18.679 of the hair they have here as opposed to maybe because I have worked with 180 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.840 some individuals who have actually seen sasquatches with very thin hair, but they've seen 181 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:26.639 a lot of skin, so maybe their coats they don't have as much hair 182 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:31.080 down here, And I think that maybe that's why they're also seen quite off 183 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.120 in my water sources, Like maybe they cool off just like we do in 184 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:37.679 the water and stuff like that. That's the way I would think that they 185 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:43.159 do it. That's another great answer, Brian, Yeah, I tend to 186 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:46.759 agree with Doug and Sibylla. I think the opposite is true. For me, 187 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:52.360 I have always wondered more about the colder temperatures because they're seen so farther 188 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:56.279 north, and as far as I know, I may have heard one story 189 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:01.759 that I've collected over the years that suggest that they may have some sort of 190 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:05.799 fire usage, but other than that, there's really not a whole lot of 191 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.399 ways to stay warm. So that's one of the things that has always fascinated 192 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.279 me. When you talk about you're getting up into Canada, Alaska, in 193 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:16.639 those areas where these things are seen, how do they stay warm during those 194 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.279 extremely cold months. Because if you take a lowland gorilla, for example, 195 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:22.240 and take them out and drop them into Alaska, they're not going to be 196 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:26.399 able to survive. It's just that simple. So these things have to be 197 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:30.320 able to do something very similar to what Doug was talking about, possibly to 198 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:35.200 regulate their body temperature in some way. I don't necessarily think they hibernate, 199 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:37.320 but I think they could very much slow down their metabolism, possibly in some 200 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:41.399 way to survive in those colder temperatures. And very much like Sybylla said and 201 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:46.240 Doug said about regulating in the heat, I think sweat is a good question. 202 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:48.679 Do they do that, how do they do that? And using water 203 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:52.639 sources to stay warm, I think would make the most sense to me. 204 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:56.399 I know our creek is always freezing on our property, no matter what month 205 00:14:56.440 --> 00:14:58.440 of the year it is. I've been out there and got in it myself 206 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:03.159 to cool down in the heat of the summer when I'm working outside. Fascinating 207 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:07.600 question though, Yeah, it's a great question. Also thinking their hunting habits 208 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:11.440 must change during the summer when they're the energy, the amount of energy they 209 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:13.840 want to expend. Even here in Texas where the temperatures get so high, 210 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:18.600 there's rivers that are sprays and they stay really cool, like all throughout the 211 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:22.600 entire SCE So I could see the news in that for sure. Yeah, 212 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:26.879 we have apes here too. Let's go with I think Scott is next, 213 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:31.559 right, Yeah, I'm going to break out an sat word here. I 214 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:35.279 think it's an eco geographical rule and amy they might have rut it up in 215 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:41.759 the coal, but it's Bergmann's rule and what that is it's basically larger body 216 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:48.519 size in colder climates because a larger body size allows those bigger animals like polar 217 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:52.759 bears is a good example, compared to black bears, to retain their body 218 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:56.960 heat. So I think in colder climates Bergmann's role could come into effect where 219 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:03.840 the bigfoot or sasquad have a lot your body size on average than perhaps bigfoot 220 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:08.200 or similar species in warmer climates. It's an established by biological rule, and 221 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:11.840 I think that it probably does apply. I think it's pretty logical. However, 222 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:15.519 I say that, and I know there's a lot of reports in my 223 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:19.200 database that say there's heap foot big foot in Texas. It's the first thing 224 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:23.080 that jumped to mind. Though, when you talk about temperature and regulating body 225 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.480 temperature and surviving cold climates, we need to zell it's got some money for 226 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:30.240 that answer. That was really good, Nathan. Did you and Debth have 227 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:34.039 anything you wanted to come in on that or I do have something? Yeah, 228 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:38.919 just real quick. I think I've been reading about tartar grades or water 229 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:44.759 bears, and it's fascinating what they do. They regulate by eliminating water in 230 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:49.240 their bodies and dehydrating themselves and then rehydrating. So when you hear about things 231 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:53.279 like that, and you're talking about an animal that hasn't been examined, at 232 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:57.519 least not publicly known about. Right, there's always a chance that there's something 233 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:02.200 way out there and left field we haven't thought of. I just wanted to 234 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:03.920 throw that out there. All can think about a couple of things, and 235 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:07.720 one is something to do. There are called thinking or reading about humans and 236 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:12.599 like the size of our brains and how energy regulation and temperature regulation is so 237 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:18.680 important to maintain an optimum temperature for the brain tissue. We think about bigfoot 238 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.720 and how high the head might be and what's the size of their cranial mass. 239 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:26.480 I think about the temperature regulation there, and then also think about their 240 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:30.000 habitat. We don't seemingly haven't heard a lot of accounts of them having dens 241 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:34.680 or living in caves, But typically if you had a habitat like that, 242 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:40.880 you might have a way to better regulate temperature because in a cave the temperature 243 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:45.519 is generally about the same throughout the year if you go deep enough inside of 244 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:48.960 that. So, yeah, really interesting to think about. That's a good 245 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:52.359 one. We've got to get Will lauancepord On here from Arkansas bigfoot investigator talk 246 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:56.079 about some caves and those art stuff. That would be awesome. So Doug, 247 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:59.400 it's your turn, sir, But your question, I was going to 248 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:04.039 answer another point to any question. One thing that people don't realize is that 249 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:10.519 throughout the northern latitudes there are peat bogs. These peat bogs get very warm 250 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:15.240 in the winter. They're warm all year, but they're extremely warm in the 251 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:22.319 winter. And we've done some studies in peat bogs and putting up camera traps. 252 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.240 I don't want to end in a long story, but there has been 253 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:30.480 some evidence presented to us that there were bigfoots in the areas right in the 254 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:34.480 middle of a warm peatbog up in northern Minnesota. So that could be another 255 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:41.720 way in the winter time that they seek more moderate temperatures by just taking up 256 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:45.440 residents in a peatbog over the winter, like snow Monkey's gone in the hot 257 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:52.839 springs. Yeah, it's the decaying vegetation that causes all this heat. Sometimes 258 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:56.279 thirty forty fifty feet down and it just produces a hell of a lot of 259 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:00.759 heats. Seems like they would want to bed down there for the night. 260 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:03.359 And also I'm sure Amy can get into later on, maybe get into the 261 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:07.720 bedding a little bit that she's seen and if there's any sort of a covering, 262 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:11.480 because they've found the beds, but I was curious if I've created any 263 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:14.920 sort of a cover. I don't know. Do you have anything on that, 264 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:17.079 Amy? Real quickly, Well, if you're talking about the nests with 265 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:21.240 the Olympic Project, they don't really have a covering except for the trees that 266 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:25.680 canopy above them, which is one of the biggest reasons why I don't think 267 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:30.319 it's people making them, because if it was people, right away started asking 268 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:33.799 why couldn't it be a person, a hermit out there or something like that. 269 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:37.559 I don't want to get into that too much, but there's a lot 270 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:41.480 of reasons why I don't think it's people. But one of them is because 271 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:48.559 there's no really good covering to protect a human being. Yeah, it's not 272 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:52.920 how we would construct a shelter that many feet thick, but nothing to cover 273 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.480 you from the elements. Right, Doug, did you want to present your 274 00:19:56.519 --> 00:19:59.960 question? Please? No, I still want to talk about Amy's question. 275 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:04.039 Oh please, Glad, and I ask you why I asked why I asked 276 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:11.119 it. It's a great question. Yeah, Please stay tuned for more Sasquatch 277 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:17.960 outyssey. We'll be right back after these messages. The big reason, besides 278 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:22.200 the fact that we were talking about it with some of the projects do books 279 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:29.079 scientists, I had been reading about how some primates when it gets too hot 280 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:33.519 out labell can't to let off some of that. So I was trying to 281 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:38.599 match that up with any kind of Bigfoot reports where there was that kind of 282 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:44.039 behavior. And I specifically wanted to ask Scott. I was going to see 283 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:47.559 if you said anything on your own, but have you ever heard any anything 284 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:49.480 like that? I haven't read anything in the reports that have come in, 285 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:56.599 and even in I just digitized and plotted John Green's historical database and I read 286 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:00.519 through a lot of almost all those reports as oh, I didn't see anything 287 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:04.720 about panting. Now you bring it up, that's them breathing, strange or 288 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:08.920 I've heard of them opening their mouths. So now I'm curious, could that 289 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:11.119 be panting? I don't know. I don't want to read into it or 290 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:17.079 make something up if it's not there. Just wondering about that. Yeah, 291 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:21.319 I think that mouth breathing is a way to I think the Tibetans do that 292 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:25.559 with they say if you breathe through your nose, you'll build up more interior 293 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:30.640 heat. They'll sit outside and wet those red robes and they'll dry them just 294 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:34.079 with their breathing, and it's a lot of nose inhale and exhaled through the 295 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:37.799 nose, whereas if you're trying to cool off, you use your mouth like 296 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:40.559 a dog does, or like we've just talked about that the some of the 297 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:45.680 primates too, So Doug I was gonna mention, I don't have as much 298 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:51.559 concern of them cool enough because these creatures are never seen far from water. 299 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:55.920 Never. It's just almost ninety eight percent chances they are going to be within 300 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:59.720 yards of water, so they can use water to cool off. And then 301 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.960 when you're hot, you just go inactive, you find shade and pretty much 302 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:08.920 can get by even on the hottest days if you're resting. But in the 303 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:14.039 wintertime, it's another story, another way that an animal like a big foot 304 00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:18.440 could keep warm in the winter. Besides, pete bogs is literally just covering 305 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:23.119 themselves with snow. Snow is ninety eight percent air, the great insulator, 306 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:27.119 and that will preserve a lot of the body heat. So just by them 307 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:32.279 raking snow over their body, they're going to be quite comfortable. I'd suggest 308 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:34.880 anybody get a chance to try it. Put a foot of snow over your 309 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:38.880 body, and you're really quite warm. And I really think like Sobilla said 310 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:45.799 that probably the hair for whatever it is, would change depending on the climate 311 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:49.440 too. Yeah, I would think so. I love that you mentioned that's 312 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:53.799 villa. Next question, go ahead, Hi, check, I already gave 313 00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:56.400 my question. Okay, do it again? Do it again? I see 314 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:03.640 what I can remember. I am always debating with people and never seem to 315 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:07.640 get any kind of consistent answer, and that is, do these things do 316 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:15.000 they migrate to get into more comfortable temperature zones? Do they only migrate maybe 317 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:19.079 from Minnesota, the ones in the Midwest where it gets really cold, the 318 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:23.519 bread basket? Do they migrate south? Do the ones on the coast barely 319 00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:29.960 migrate because it's more temperate, the ones in Washington It never really gets twenty 320 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:33.400 below there, but here we get twenty thirty forty below zero. Do they 321 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:38.119 migrate? And do they migrate for reasons of comfort or could it be just 322 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:45.279 reasons for food sources or if they're truly meat eaters, maybe because meat is 323 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:48.319 three sixty five what's three hundred and sixty five days a year. So those 324 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:55.759 are all the complicated confusion questions with migration, and I would think Scotland with 325 00:23:55.799 --> 00:24:00.480 the mapping project would be forming some opinions, and I'd love to hear certainly 326 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:04.400 some of Scott's, but just people in general, what do they think about 327 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:11.480 migration, because it's confusing. Also, the other statement about migration, maybe 328 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.799 this aids in us not being able to really track them because what if some 329 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:21.240 say the healthy ones say I want to stick it out in Minnesota, and 330 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:23.839 what if older ones go, hey, I'm just going to try to make 331 00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:27.599 a living here. I'm not up for that long eight hundred mile walk. 332 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:33.200 So those are some of the questions and sub questions that I would really love 333 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:37.960 to get some more opinions on the billity. I have heard some witnesses talk 334 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:44.759 about seeing sasquad just following a migration of elk, that we're leaving Colorado and 335 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:49.839 going for New Mexico because New Mexico there was a Native American reservation just right 336 00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:53.960 there, and that they were leaving Colorado and heading to New Mexico. I 337 00:24:53.960 --> 00:25:00.559 think that there is migration following the elkers for that group. Think it's really 338 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:04.759 sight and reaching specific about whether they migrate or not. I do know that 339 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:10.279 when I was living in Kentucky on that research project, when it was hunting 340 00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:14.759 season and all the hunters were out in the fields doing their hunting, I 341 00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:18.880 had zero activity. Like the Sasquatches literally just went dark. They seem to 342 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:25.759 understand and there were plots of land that were hunted, and there were plots 343 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:30.240 of land like tons of acres that was never hunted. There were sidings in 344 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:34.119 the areas that were never hunted, and there were zero sidings in the areas. 345 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:38.720 That doesn't really pertain to migration, but it does seem to point to 346 00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:45.000 the fact that they really understand some of the viral activities and how to avoid 347 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:49.079 us when they need to. They're so intelligent. It's just unbelievable how they've 348 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:52.680 figured out how to maneuver around us. I know, that's like a whole 349 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.039 show in itself there, mister king Sharp, I just have to go with 350 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:00.799 my gut on this because I don't have enough data to speak in intelligently about 351 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.880 it, because I really haven't studied the migration of Sasquatch. I don't think 352 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.319 anybody really knows obviously, everything we're talking about subjective. My gut has always 353 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:11.960 told me no, and I don't really know outside of that, just to 354 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:15.440 say it's my gut feeling. It doesn't make sense to me that they would 355 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:19.640 migrate, because if they are as elusive as I believe them to be, 356 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:26.279 migration opens up a whole nother litany of problems for these things to go from 357 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.559 one place to another. Like Doug said, you're talking thirty forty below in 358 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.200 Minnesota, they may have to go eight hundred miles to get to a more 359 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:37.400 temperate climate in the middle of the winter. It just doesn't make sense to 360 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:42.400 me that they're doing that across the country, let's say, because I think 361 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:48.039 if they were, we would have more sightings of these things in certain times 362 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:49.640 of the year, like winter, when it would make sense that they were 363 00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:53.200 doing this migration. That's why my gut has always told me no. Of 364 00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:56.799 course, like most things, I'm usually wrong a lot of the time, 365 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.359 so I could certainly be wrong about this, but my gut has always told 366 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.519 me no. I don't think that they migrate. Again, That's about as 367 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.359 intelligently as I can speak about it, because I don't have anything other than 368 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:10.400 my gut that tells me that you're in great company. And then I think 369 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:15.799 the question would be what constitutes migration. Is it just that they're going several 370 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.960 miles away or double digit miles away, that could be a form of migration. 371 00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.400 I don't know. I guess I don't know the definition, but I'll 372 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:26.559 bet you that Scott pumpkin stuff. I happen to be a hunter Sibyla, 373 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:30.920 and I've also done analysis on some of the big Foot sightings in the database. 374 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:34.519 Seasonally, my first comment would be along the lines of migration. I'll 375 00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:37.759 use mule deer for example, and elk. They have a summer range and 376 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:42.119 a winter range, right, so some elk sometimes are very Their summer range 377 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:45.680 can be up in high elevation, right, and then their winter ranges down 378 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.200 in like farm fields and things like that. That don't happen to be that 379 00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:53.640 far away in a linear distance, but if you go up in elevation, 380 00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:57.839 they're really it's a big change in climate and the environment that they're in. 381 00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:03.359 I guess I'm going with that would be what I've seen in the analysis that 382 00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:07.559 I've done. I think if you were to say migration, I think bigfoot. 383 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.640 And this is my opinion based just solely I'll send you the post that 384 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.559 I did a couple of years ago. There's a winter range, and I 385 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:18.160 think what I've seen in the data is that it's actually more spread out. 386 00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.039 The sightings are further apart, and if you think about food availability, that 387 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:26.880 might be why. Right, it's more scarce, particularly in the northeast, 388 00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:30.079 is where I saw a more spread out range in the winter, and then 389 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:36.480 spring comes along and it starts to concentrate. Summer is the most concentrated time 390 00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.640 that I've seen in the map anyway, and then fall they start to spread 391 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:42.079 out again. So that could be for a lot of reasons. It could 392 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:45.400 be for mating, it could be for food availability, it could be for 393 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:51.599 weather, or all of the above. So in short, I think, 394 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.720 yes, they do regionally migrate, if that could be a term I could 395 00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:02.039 coin, like a winter range and a summer range situation similar to elk and 396 00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:07.359 mule deer. But as far as long ranging migrations like from hundreds or thousands 397 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.680 of miles, I don't see that in the data. But then again, 398 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.680 who's to say that the database that I've got is complete. We're still working 399 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:17.519 on it, But based on what I've analyzed, I think there's a regional 400 00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:22.799 migration based on again either mating, food availability, and weather and seasonal change. 401 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:26.359 That's what I'm seeing so far. I know this would be more in 402 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:33.000 the realm of subjective, but do you got feel like that those teenagers when 403 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.759 they get to a certain age, they have to leave that troop, if 404 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:41.240 you will, where there's an alpha male in place, it's possible. Going 405 00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:45.039 back to elk again, there's like satellite bulls and they roam looking for a 406 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:49.200 herd or for females. So yeah, I think it's possible. But that's 407 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:53.559 where data is key, and really to get reliable reports to be able to 408 00:29:53.559 --> 00:30:00.319 say that authoritatively. That's a tough one because how does somebody who sees a 409 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.960 bigfoot for the first time know the age or the gender, etc. So 410 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:10.200 I think it's using known wildlife as a model. Yes, I think it's 411 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:15.599 possible, but I don't have anything in the data set to authoritatively say yeah, 412 00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:18.200 I think that's happening. Great scientists, we have to tell us what 413 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.440 you do at some point during the show. But let's go to amy. 414 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.839 I think I agree with everybody that I don't think the term migration maybe is 415 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.640 the best word, because as far as most people are thinking of geese flying 416 00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:37.319 south and going long distances, but we do have some evidence of if you're 417 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.519 looking at track evidence, where there will be the tracks that look like they're 418 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:47.759 from the same animal that show up several miles away many years later or even 419 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.400 closer in time. So if those are legitimate tracks, then it seems like 420 00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:59.440 they do move around quite a bit. I have an app called follow Fahlo. 421 00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.839 It's not my app, but I downloaded the app where you can buy 422 00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:07.440 a bracelet that will follow like a gorilla or an elephant, and it gives 423 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.680 money to help the animals, and you could see how they move around and 424 00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:15.000 things. So they definitely move around for food, maybe the climate. I 425 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:19.279 agree with whoever it was that said it would really depend on if they have 426 00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:22.599 to move. If they don't have to move, I don't think they would 427 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.319 move much. But if they need to move around a little bit or a 428 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.119 lot to follow food, then for sure. And I was glad that you 429 00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:33.319 brought it up. This is what I was waiting to say, is that, 430 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:40.000 for my understanding, gorillas do leave one group to go to another group 431 00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:47.359 to help protect the breeding population, especially if there aren't that many sawcequatch, 432 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:52.279 and my personal belief is there could be less than we think. I don't 433 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:55.400 know that, of course. I'm just thinking of like the Cross River gorillas. 434 00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.640 They think they're only two to three hundred left in the wild now, 435 00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:02.559 and they would have to be objective of their breeding population. Yes, like 436 00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:08.680 you said, j the younger male gorillas will go to another troop because they 437 00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:14.079 aren't allowed to be back with the main silver back, so they go over 438 00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:16.799 there for that reason. And you said that too, Scott, about mating. 439 00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.279 So that is something again, if they are a natural creature, if 440 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.400 they are some type of a primate, it would depend on whether they're closer 441 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.279 to in orangutangrilla or a human. But I could see that would be a 442 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.920 possibility that they leave. Yeah, And I was going to say, I 443 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:37.519 think people have extrapolated upon You'll see people that have seen a male and a 444 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:43.000 female or a group of female a while the male looks really well coaffed and 445 00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:46.000 taken care of, and then they'll see one that looks not quite as large 446 00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:51.160 but really scraggly hair, dirty hair, and so you can build an errative 447 00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:54.160 out of that. It's anecdotal, but on something like they say anecdotes are 448 00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:57.720 a form of evidence. There may not be proof, but they're evidence. 449 00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:00.680 So interesting. I'm talking to Brian, He's going to be like, yo, 450 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:04.920 let me get my book out. Okay. So I think did we 451 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.880 get everybody did? As did mister Hydecheck need to get in. Help me 452 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.880 out, Nathan. Where we're at. We're good. Unless deb may have 453 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:14.359 a comment, I don't know. She wants to yes, yes, please. 454 00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:19.319 I wanted to add one more point. Migration is something that a lot 455 00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:25.480 of more intelligent primates have done in the whole create eight family. One of 456 00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:30.359 the reasons we know that is because they diversified, and from what I've heard, 457 00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:35.319 there is some diversity with Sasquatch. So I just wanted to throw that 458 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:39.799 out there as a potential piece of evidence. That's another great topic to that 459 00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.720 whole line. Nathan, did you have anything? I was going to mention 460 00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.079 that to me, it seems to be a sort of a function of energy 461 00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:51.799 and caloric need. So what is their diet their creature of the size that 462 00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.559 they would have to be, being so tall, so muscular, et cetera. 463 00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:58.079 What is their primary food source? And I would think it would need 464 00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:02.400 to be something that would be very color dense, energy rich. Otherwise they 465 00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:07.519 have to consume a tremendous amount of vegetation to meet the calork needs that they 466 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.800 would have, and migration, I would imagine, would be really tethered to 467 00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:15.119 the food that they need to sustain their biomass. And so that you think 468 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:19.519 about a huge creature. The more they have to travel, the more energy 469 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.400 they actually need to be able to do that. So maybe they do travel 470 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:28.679 with these birds because that might be their primary food source. Yeah. When 471 00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.320 I went to survival school, they talk about that over and over, about 472 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:36.880 expending energy when you're in a survival situation and how many calories you're going to 473 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.719 need to go do X, Y and z. And of course these shows 474 00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:42.039 like a Loan they talk about that as well, but they hit that over 475 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.760 and over and survival school, I feel such a big responsibility to people when 476 00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:51.920 they ask me this question, and I would love to hear from ans Pianel, 477 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.599 like, how do they answer this question when people ask it? Are 478 00:34:55.719 --> 00:35:01.480 these beings dangerous? I'm working tomorrow with the man who literally says the only 479 00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:06.519 reason he's alive is because they have weapons. And then there, on the 480 00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:10.719 other hand, you have people who have like the one man who the sense 481 00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:15.679 squatch was doing sign language to speak to him. So you have these experiences 482 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:21.000 all of the spectrum, from the most aggressive to just they're curious about you. 483 00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:24.280 So I'd love to know how the people in this fiannel feel about just 484 00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:30.840 how dangerous are these creatures being right, great question. I can tell you. 485 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:36.119 I have never been of the opinion that every sasquatch out there is out 486 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.960 to kill everybody. They're responsible for every person who goes missing and the national 487 00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:43.840 parks across the country. But I can tell you this from personal experience. 488 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.840 I've talked to a lot of people who have had experiences. There have been 489 00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:52.000 some hair raising experiences that I've documented on my show, at least just recently. 490 00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:57.639 I had a gentleman come on First Nations from up and he's in Alaska, 491 00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:00.920 and he was talking about He started his channel talking about these things are 492 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:06.480 not our friends. He got into their oral history, and their oral history 493 00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:09.960 is nothing but warnings about the hairy Man. It has played out time and 494 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.440 time and again in his life and the life of some of the elders that 495 00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.480 he is associated with and his friends and family. He told a harrowing story 496 00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:22.119 on my show just last week about having to shoot his way out of a 497 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.760 cabin. That's Fred, right, that Fred, Yes, Okay, so 498 00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:29.800 I'm going to be doing his witness sketches. He mentioned that they're indipity, 499 00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.719 right, and I'm very excited to see that You're going to work with him 500 00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:37.039 and come up with some of these images because his stories are so compelling, 501 00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:39.159 and I believe every word that comes out of Fred's mouth, to be quite 502 00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:43.679 honest with he has no dog in the fight to be telling anything other than 503 00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:45.840 the truth here, and other people I've had on the show that have talked 504 00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:52.199 about very scary encounters with these things. So if they are large primates, 505 00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:57.159 and I believe that they are, they have the propensity, just like human 506 00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:00.199 beings, to be very dangerous creatures. I think these things have personalities very 507 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:04.880 similar to people. They are nice people and they are horrible people. There 508 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.119 are people who kill in rage, and there are serial killers. I'm certainly 509 00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:13.199 not trying to put those traits on any sasquatch by any means, so please 510 00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:15.480 don't quote me there. But I said all that to say I think there 511 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:21.039 is the propensity for that to be there in these creatures just like in human 512 00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:23.000 beings. So I think they can be very dangerous. And I think that 513 00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:27.559 everybody who goes out looking for these things needs to be careful. And I 514 00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:29.440 think you need to have your head on a swivel, and I think you 515 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.559 need to be smart about doing your research and go out in payers at least 516 00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.639 with other people, and be prepared. Some people don't like to carry weapons. 517 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:39.440 I don't go hiking on my forty acres here without a weapon because of 518 00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:43.119 bears. I don't want to shoot a bear, but I don't want to 519 00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:45.039 be mauled by one either. I certainly don't want to be killed by a 520 00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:49.679 sasquatch. I don't want to kill a sasquatch, But you need to protect 521 00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:52.760 yourself, and I think you have to be smart. So long winded way 522 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:54.119 to say, I think these things are dangerous. I think they can be 523 00:37:54.199 --> 00:38:00.360 dangerous. Are they all dangerous, bloodthirsty killers? By no, st the 524 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.920 imagination. They're just like bears, They're just like gorillas. They're like any 525 00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:07.400 other large primate and or large dangerous mammals. You have to treat them with 526 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.679 respect and the propensity for dangers always there. Can't argue with that. And 527 00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:15.400 there's enough encounters where they've walked through campsites and not touched anybody's stuff. Do 528 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:19.519 you have to take down intoccount? But you also it's a dangerous animal. 529 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.639 I just want to say for everybody out there, this is calling all beings 530 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.440 and man, what an amazing back we have tonight. You guys are just 531 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:29.880 killing it, just exactly like we thought you would go with that. Let's 532 00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:35.559 see, right after mister Sharp goes Tompkins cool, I'm going to repeat something 533 00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:37.519 my grandmother had to hammer into me when I was a kid, is don't 534 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:44.719 touch wild animals. So I think sasquatch are wild animals, and along the 535 00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:49.719 same lines like Brian was saying, situationally, it depends on how they're going 536 00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.320 to behave and what they perceive that if you're a threat or not right. 537 00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:57.880 For example, if a mother bear has cubs or an alligator is near its 538 00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:00.679 nest, that natural instinct tech they're young, is going to kick in and 539 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:06.480 they become lethal, right, But any other time they may avoid you and 540 00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:09.800 just go a different way. So I think it really depends on, because 541 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:14.360 they have a higher intellect, how they perceive that person's behavior. If they 542 00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:19.239 recognize weapons and pattern that if they think you're infringing on their territory, as 543 00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:22.639 an alpha male might think. So, I think my answer is yes, 544 00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.559 they can be dangerous. I agree with that, but I do think that 545 00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:30.039 they don't necessarily behave that way all the time. I think it's a reaction 546 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:35.920 more than it is a habit with these creatures, depending on what they perceive 547 00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:40.239 that we're doing in their world. Absolutely, miss Amy, I agree with 548 00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:46.000 what the gentleman said before me. If they are some type of a natural, 549 00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:52.320 earthly creature, I would just say, Mama, Barry like you did, 550 00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:54.159 Scott, I'm a nice person, but go after my daughter. And 551 00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:59.559 I'm not so. I would think that any type of an animal, or 552 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:04.440 even if they're closer to a human, would do the same. Just to 553 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.559 play Devil's advocate here, because I think everybody knows that my interest in Sasquatch 554 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:12.960 is based on whether or not they could be a living, breathing, cooping, 555 00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:15.519 mating animal. Right, That's how I look at them. That's my 556 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:21.559 interest, not saying I'm right, but if they were something different, say 557 00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:24.599 something spiritual. And I'm seeing different comments in the chat, which I greatly 558 00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:32.079 respect other people's ideas I hope that they wouldn't be just all good. And 559 00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:37.559 I don't know if that sounds really weird, but to me, something that 560 00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:43.159 would have no ability to show, even like righteous anger or something like that, 561 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.920 would be they wouldn't have any kind of free will, you know what 562 00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:51.000 I mean. So I know I'm getting out there, but even if you're 563 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:54.079 looking at it in a different way, I think there's always the potential of 564 00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:59.159 getting angry, right, I don't know. It's trying to think outside of 565 00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:01.239 the box here. But as for as an animal, and we talk a 566 00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:05.960 lot about different primates, I always say much rather meet a gorilla than a 567 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.159 chimpanzee out in the woods. They're very different. But I don't want to 568 00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:14.119 mate I'm at gorilla either. Yeah, I think that they could be dangerous. 569 00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:19.880 Stay tuned for more Sasquatch Odyssey. We'll be right back after these messages. 570 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:24.280 The only chimp I'd want to meet would be a bonobo. That's it. 571 00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:29.639 Yes, that could be okay, Yeah, your students must absolutely love 572 00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.000 you, Amy, I'm sure I was Gonnaci. I get to ask this 573 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:36.800 on Doug Show. But like we say, living breathing, flesh and blood 574 00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:40.840 or something else, I like to say absolutely. I believe it's a living, 575 00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:45.320 breathing flesh creature, animal, art, human, whatever you want to 576 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:50.679 call it. But like humans, there are humans that have some extraordinary abilities 577 00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:54.000 remote viewing, we can get into psychokinesis all these different things, is it 578 00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:58.880 possible that some of them have an ability even though it's a flesh and leading 579 00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:00.679 creature. That way, we don't don't have to say you're either on this 580 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.599 side or you're on that side. Maybe there's a middle, verably agree, 581 00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:07.039 and a lot of things that are paranormal we just can't explain, I think. 582 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:13.320 And we have ghosts Doug Satman's house. Is it possible they have ghosts 583 00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:17.599 too when they die and they're chilling around in Saltwork State Park where they found 584 00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:22.280 a great home for maybe twenty thirty years or more. Yeah, I don't 585 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.559 know. Why does it have to be either or you're either flesh and blood 586 00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:29.800 or you're spiritual. Why can't it be a mixture of those things? Like 587 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.360 we are where flesh and blood and we're spiritual beings? This good boy? 588 00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:38.079 That's right, great points villa. All right, did dev and Nathan have 589 00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:43.360 anything? Mister? How check sir? Oh? Okay? I think Brian 590 00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:49.119 started it out really good. You're dealing with probably an animal or a creature 591 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:53.000 that generally operates on fear because they do stay out of trouble most of the 592 00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:59.159 time. They don't run into a small town and start tearing awnings off buildings. 593 00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:02.239 Okay, so they operate on fear like a black bear, so they're 594 00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:07.039 reserved. But I think they're very individual. I think just like people, 595 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:14.679 they've got more curious ones, less curious ones, wise ones, naive ones. 596 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:20.599 You've got different sexes They're going to behave differently. That really becomes hard 597 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.360 to then put some kind of pattern on them, to put a label on 598 00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:31.920 them. Obviously, I've experienced their explosive temper, so I do believe if 599 00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:38.079 you surprise them, they have an explosive temper like a chimp or even a 600 00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:42.840 gorilla. They can explode to and just It doesn't mean they're going to kill 601 00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:45.719 somebody, but they might grab you by the leg and drag you up the 602 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:50.599 hill quick just to show you whose boss because you startle them. Black bears 603 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:54.840 are the same way. I've been in many close one foot away with mother 604 00:43:54.960 --> 00:44:00.679 with cubs and everything's cool, but I'll do something just a little wrong that 605 00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:06.440 I don't even know what I did, and it'll set her off explosively and 606 00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:10.280 she'll swatch you or swat the ground. And I think they're a lot like 607 00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:15.559 that, you know, so you maintain your distance, don't do anything rash. 608 00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:21.679 I think you're generally safe. But there may be also bigfoots that have 609 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:24.920 got a health problem. They're starving, they're ornery, they've got a thorn 610 00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:30.159 in their foot, they're of an injury, and like wild animals, those 611 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:34.440 animals are going to be more dangerous if they're starving and whatnot. And so 612 00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.280 that's it, and that's back to the even the migration thing. I think 613 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:43.480 we're just dealing with so many individuals that do so many different things. There's 614 00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:49.599 no pattern except for some patterns, and so it becomes a really tough thing 615 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:53.280 to get a handle on, far harder than like a troop of gorillas that 616 00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:59.239 eat a very few different types of plants have very similar habits. I think 617 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:02.639 big Foo, but they're all over the map, will Ins. But that's 618 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:07.760 when you're yeah, do you take Venmo, Doug, Yeah, I take 619 00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:14.800 Veno, Yeah, good Sony Cortland's Allan, Scott Tompkins. But even bears, 620 00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:19.239 like Brian had mentioned taking a gun when he goes out because of the 621 00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.840 black bears. Generally you're okay, but man if you get a bad one, 622 00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:27.440 but you'd hate to be unarmed. And that does happen. There are 623 00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:30.320 black bear attacks. They're rare, but they do happen. And no doubt 624 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:37.719 there's bigfoot attacks that we don't know anything about because there's nobody surviving to tell 625 00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:40.119 the tale. Well, big one, bigfoot wants to get you. It's 626 00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:44.199 gonna drag you off. There's no doubt in my mind you're going to be 627 00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:47.480 dragged away into the woods. You're probably not going to be killed right then 628 00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:52.119 and there. You're going to be dragged away and you probably are going to 629 00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:57.960 be killed. But I just know that there's a great range of individuals with 630 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:01.239 these things, and I don't say for sure. Yes they have an explosive 631 00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:06.159 temper, but I'm still here. They didn't kill me. There's a lot 632 00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:09.880 of anecdotes that suggest that they're far more where people walked away or it walked 633 00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:15.880 away than there are anecdotes where someone was injured. Of course, I think 634 00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:20.320 it was Ohio Amy where those two fishermen they got close to that island. 635 00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:23.559 The rock started coming off that little island. Then he exited the boat with 636 00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:27.719 his cousin in there was ranger. He took through a rock and then it 637 00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:30.719 came flying out of the woods and whacked him and broke his ribs, and 638 00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:36.320 they had like a forty five minute troll back to the car. Like everybody 639 00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:38.519 was saying, you hear stories about that, but personally, I don't think 640 00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:42.000 there's not that you were saying it, but it just thought about. I 641 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:46.639 don't think is there any maliciousness or evil intent behind it. I think it's 642 00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:51.679 more just get out of here. He was alone. This is where I 643 00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:57.400 fish, not you. The fact that they throw rocks should tell everybody they 644 00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:02.599 don't want to confront you. The rock throwing alone is mainly to warn you 645 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:09.760 without confrontation. They don't want an altercation. That old cliche about them just 646 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:15.840 operating on fear, which has helped them survive all these years. It's a 647 00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.159 survival mechanism. That's why black bears are scared of their own shadows. It's 648 00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:23.480 helped them survive. Black bears evolved during they had to survive when they were 649 00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:30.400 sabertoothed tigers roaming and so that's why black bears are so skittish. We don't 650 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.320 have the saber tooth tigers now, but boy, they know their place. 651 00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:36.679 When they skin up a tree, they're doing that because they're scared that The 652 00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:38.679 voice you're hearing right there is mister Doug Hichek. One of the things we 653 00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:43.679 didn't mention at the open is that Doug has something around fifty he's an inventor 654 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.360 with something like fifteen hundred patents. A lot of people don't know that about 655 00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:51.800 him, but our discussion of motorcycles led us into that he's an inventor, 656 00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:58.159 and it's just fascinating. They say you don't have to go home, but 657 00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:30.239 you can't say I don't want to feel a world happen. Si chid, 658 00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:37.480 this chart, that chart everything, Call me ride back, Ride back the 659 00:48:37.719 --> 00:49:00.800 joy for me joy stay right there, come it right away. Its still 660 00:49:02.639 --> 00:50:00.239 stars stats s st st st st stuss games still stewssssssst ussss m