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M M. It's still Tuesday somewhere, and that probably means that you are

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hunkered down somewhere listening to the Giant
bomb cast. I'm hunkered in a bunker.

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Perhaps, yes, I don't know. Did did the bomb go off?

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Perhaps? Is it? Is it
post the apocalypse? Maybe maybe the

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people who live in that or work
in that, like seed Vault in Iceland

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or wherever it is. It's a
bunker, maybe they will listen. Do

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they have a hard line down there? I don't know. Are they getting

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internet down? The internet has no
it cannot contaminate plants. That okay?

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Yet? All right then I'm aware
of fine for Scandling, Yes it is

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I. Hello, true Scandlin,
that is you. I'm doing all right.

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I'm doing good, too good.
It's good to hear it. Jeff's

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out of here this week, continuing
to trek across the earth in like a

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robe and sandals, just on his
vision quest. Yes exactly, but in

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his stead friend of the site and
other ja Yes, Jonathan Tiberius Drake.

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I it's awkward because I don't so, I don't. I don't think he

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talked to you, so, I
mean he he wanted to give you a

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shot of host in the podcast,
but he texted me and he just says

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it's not working out. So he
called me to be like, hey,

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until I get back, and you
just like, fuck go watch Brad because

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all they talk about is fucking Doda
and eating people, and I think it's

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just we need to go kind of
stem that. Okay, look, Doda,

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I can understand as being somewhat objectionable, but what do you got against

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eating people? Come on, I
mean, I don't know what the differences

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between those two things. It just
seems like cannibalization of one kind or another.

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That's very fair anyway. No,
hey, guys, what's up.

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I live in San Francisco, and
I'm glad you're here to clean things up.

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Yeah, I'm here to regulate here
to clean up this city. I'm

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Warren Gy and this ship. Let's
do it. Yep. Yes from Boston,

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warrenying from Boston? All right?
Oh yeah, are you asking if

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I'm coming from Boston? Yeah?
I flew in from Boston at one point,

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and then I've been here since that
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live here. I moved here too. I know you drove here, like

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god damn maniacs. For clearing that
up. We weren't sure where you came

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from. Now it's weird back at
this fucking record guy showed up on the

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doorstep one day. We don't know
where it came from. He's been living

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in the office. Dropped him off. Yes he was. He was outside

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in a wicker basket, swaddled in
blankets. You know. Jeff called me

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when I was when I was not
not employed for a very brief period of

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time between the jobs. I wish
it had been longer. I could have

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used a nap. But the he
called me and he said like, hey,

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you know you should come. You
could just come work at the site.

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He's like, because if you don't, we're gonna have to have to

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give Record a job. And I
was like, well, don't do that.

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Whatever you do, people are gonna
be so mad. Don't give Record

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a job. He's crazy. He's
crazy person who hates all good things.

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And then uh, and he only
speaks in declared his statements. I know,

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for softening of that way. More
things than I don't like that.

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I'm a happy fellow. I find
that hard to believe. I love things.

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What do you love besides wrestling or
hotdogs or Budweiser. Well, you

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got the big bullet points out of
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That's true. He's got real fun. He's got you there. Yeah.

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Yeah, so anyway, but yeah, I'm glad it worked out for both

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of us. Dan got a job, and after a brief stint of running

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Iron Galaxy for three hours, I
decided to move to California. You pulled

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him back up out of the muck. I was like, what is even

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going on in here? Company is
circling the training people screaming at each other,

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and Dave Lang just throwing basketballs out
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I couldn't. I couldn't take the
man decide to get out. So I

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came out all the way across the
country to California. And what are you

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up to out here? Man?
I don't even know working for the man,

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I'm mostly working for a man.
He is a man. Uh No,

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yeah, I'm working at Sony now
I work at PlayStation. If you

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did not see my wildly successful tweet
about it, lots tweet, lots of

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retweets. Twitter campaign's promoted. Was
it a five hundred five star? No?

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I don't think. Where was the
hashtag? The hashtag was I don't

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know what is the greatness of waits
now? So I'm great is the Drakes?

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Uh so? I? Yeah?
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third party side over with Adam at
PlayStation and we're making Sea a friendlier place

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for games big and small. Are
you helping to build the list? Uh?

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That's still yeah, maybe a little
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games uh that should come to PlayStation, you should tweet at me at Geo

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Corsi hashtag building the list. Uh
no, yeah, I'd give a company

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Twitter account to you. Yeah,
I us, just us. He doesn't

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know I have the password. Uh
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on the same team as Geo under
Adam and we are building lists. I'm

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pretty much all I do all days
build giant lists. I'm in charge of

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portfolio strategy, which I believe means
make a giant list and then say does

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this game go on this list?
Okay? Then out there and make some

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deals it, make some deals happen, acquire some content, get some games

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in that's the plan. Yeah.
Do you ever played Mount your Friends?

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I watched you play Mount your Friends
Bring Back. It was pretty amazing.

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We might need to es RB wise, might need to take the dong quotion

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down a little bit. Oh no, they have a they have a WorkSafe

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version. The dong jiggle was a
little extreme. Do you want me to

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just tell you what it is.
Yeah, it's pretty funny visual, but

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put like hot dogs on the do
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suit with a giant swinging zipper off
the fly. That's good. Yeah,

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yeah it works. Yeah, we'll
talk to Geo about porting that game over.

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But yeah, that's uh, that
game is really dumb that you played

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so good, but I really liked
it a lot. Also, this dispense

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was really like like palatable. Yeah, when you guys first started playing,

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I could hear it, like knuckle
he was straight up like fuck this game

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like the suit second you booted it
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everyone was on the edge of their
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Yeah, I mean the amazing thing
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this only became apparent like halfway through, but the potential for fucking over the

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guy who has to go or the
lady has to go after you. Yeah,

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you know, it's like, oh, I'm not gonna make it to

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the top. But at least I'm
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a giant impediment. It had a
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but but like with more fucking with
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an actual game. Yes, there's
actually some finesse to it too, like

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like sort of surprisingly uh, like
swinging the limbs around and all the weird

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stuff of the act. Get something, you can get better. Yeah,

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you could get good at that game, if like whatever that means. So

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that's my main goal at Sony's,
just to get really good at that game.

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What's the name of that game?
Mount your friends, your friendship it

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do it? I mean, that's
how you can establish corporate dominance in there.

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Yeah, you need to just walk
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challenge him. If you say,
mount him, I'm going to throw this

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microphone. I wasn't gonna say it. It's right there in the name of

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the game. You're right, You're
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the game. I mean, big
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True, I could probably literally climb
on give you a piggyback. I could

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climb on Adam boys and he probably
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of be like whatever, he's a
he's a strong guy, he's a jolly

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mountain, and I'm like a tiny
man. By comparison, I'm slight,

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so you're average size. Yeah.
Sure makes me feel good about it.

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I know you haven't been there that
long, but are you feeling pretty free

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to go out after kind of whatever
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if you've gotten a sense of like, like, how how wide a net

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are you gonna be able to cast
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know, okay, I mean there's
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in the fact that we put people
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like it's always a team sport.
So like there's a ton of dudes who

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dude develop our relations, which is
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dudes who do you know, publisher
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And there's people who have these accounts
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flow day to day. And I'm
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room saying that seems cool. I
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our platform and I try to work
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for how much that could be worth. And so far I've done that a

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few times. We found some pretty
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comes coming up hopefully have some cool
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just figuring out what's going on,
like drinking from the fire hose and finding

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out about games that are not announced
yet. And I haven't actually met with

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any publishers yet because we haven't had
the opportunity. I have had a few

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phone calls. But we're all gonna
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over at TGS and I'll be at
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Yes, all games big and small
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champion. I'm not necessarily that me
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to the platform. But I can
go to the guy who's responsible for it

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and say, like, this game
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to Adam or you know, the
other people in the other territories and say

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let's get behind No Man Sky or
whatever it is, right and sort of

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see those games a little bit if
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and say, let's make sure this
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Vida or whatever. Right, if
you're E three was not already shadowy,

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it's gonna be all shadow all right, just nothing clandestine like back room deals,

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smoky speakeasies. And so part of
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product evangelism at all. So like, hey, what are cool things that

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are happening on you know, so
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about to publishers and developers wagh in
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For example, like hey, we
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before we annouced Morpheus, right,
so they start building experiences for it down

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the road, and then how do
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talk to consumers about so he'll still
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stuff we have from like sort of
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talking about our great portfolio better on
PlayStation, the greatest console ever invented in

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the history of video games, full
stop. Now that's some evangelism. Boom,

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that's why you pay me the big
bucks. Your tailpr I was coming

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here. So let's hope we get
out of here alive. Are you going

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to Are you going to games Com? I am going to games, come

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leave Games? Are you just are
you just resuming your travel life like right

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where you left off, going to
be a little bit more calm. No,

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I bailed. They actually had a
Latin America trip this past week where

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they all went to Mexico, and
I got out of that because I was

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just like, I need to find
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and like survive as a human being. So I built on that one.

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But yeah, I'm going to be
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for Games. Comm'm there for a
solid week in a couple of days,

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and then I'm coming back, going
to packs and coming back. And I

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would be in Tokyo for like two
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TGS and then publisher meetings and then
Sony corporate meetings while we're there. So

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it just goes to show you can
take the John Drake out of the road,

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but you can't take the road out
of my butt. Yep. That's

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what roads pretty much, It's the
whole hot rod, hot wheels track.

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I don't want to talk about,
Okay, traumatic events so yeah, I'll

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be flying a lot, so you'll
still see me in the skies. I'm

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still the captain. This guy's next. Yeah, we'll forget video games.

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Yeah, man, I want to
hear about your relocation effort. Oh it's

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been. I want to hear about
the wild and wooly world of trying to

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rent in San Francisco. It is
legit. I mean people think, you

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know, so it is. It
is a liberal, elite city, right,

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so people in where I come from, like the flyover states in the

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middle of the country think like people
say it's really bad to try to rent

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there and the market's rough, but
they must be exaggerating. They're all just

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whiney people who cry all the time. And I will tell you no,

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it is like stupid expensive and makes
me so sad and I carved out,

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Like you know, they say,
basically, you should you know, be

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willing to spend thirty three like a
third of your take home pay, so

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not your pre tax payer you'r after
tax pay on rent a month. Like

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that's the responsible adult way to do
it. You divide your annual income after

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taxes by forty kind of comes out
to the number you should spend a month

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in rent and I was like,
you know, I'm gonna round that up

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to like a solid forty percent because
it's an expensive market and even that,

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looking for a two bedroom, two
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I know, well, so I
but I work south of the city,

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Like I worked forty minutes south of
the city, and there's like a there's

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not a shuttle that goes there.
You can take the caltrain down and there's

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a shuttle that comes every like thirty
minutes. But it's like even my commune

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could be like twenty five thirty minutes
or it could be like an hour and

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a half depending on if I hit
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I can't. I mean, I'm
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had to find out always one parking
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so I had to find a pot
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destroyed because it's not my old truck
that I've had for nineteen years. But

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the so yeah, looking around,
man, I I you I just kind

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of carved out like what neighborhoods I
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I could tell, the place we
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pretty great. Uh, and then
everything I did, like comparison shopping and

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see if I had buyer some morse
was either like I could tell immediately why

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this place was cheaper, like,
oh uh, this place looks really nice

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in the photos, but uh,
there was a decided to try to murder

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me on the way in. So
that guy being the doorman probably means I

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don't want to I won't survive here
forever. He's like, it was like

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the rogue legacy of apartments and topical
that's what I'm playing right now. And

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then or it would be a more
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that like I would I would limit
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a month in rent, to be
like, fuck it, let's just see

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what six thousand dollars a month looks
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a first of all, I'll carve
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rent, because they're all like eight
thousand dollars a month. And you're like,

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that's not a number that thought,
that's a crazy amount that doesn't exist.

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That's one hundred thousand dollars a year
basically for an apart, what are

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you talking about. I'm not an
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dollars a month. It's in Soma, which is kind of close by to

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where you guys have, you know, your studio, and I was like,

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the ballpark, it's a lot of
new stuff. Fifty dars is like way

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too much for me to pay in
rent, but like, let me go

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click through and see what the pictures
will kind of nice. I'll click through

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and it was eight hundred and sixty
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which means that every room on average
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of closets. Yes, it's like
this room, it would be the biggest

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room in the house that we're in
right now. And this room is basically,

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you know, graduated closet. So
you will go there and you'd be

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like, I'd be paying a thousand
and two thousand dollars more a month in

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rent for half the space and terrible. So I'm living in Noeh Valley,

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which is like sort of the suburban
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but it's a little bit more suburban
Warman neighborhood. And got a really

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great place to the cool landlord.
And it's a you know condo that we're

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renting, and I'm teching about it. So live in the city for a

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year or two, be a little
young and irresponsible and spend too much money,

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and then you know, three or
four years from now, maybe move

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out for the burbs community. And
yeah, but right now I feel like

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it's the time to be around people
and have fun in the city. Yeah,

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it sucks here, Yes, like
California live to It's like cold all

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the time. Cold, well,
relatively speaking, it's cold all the time.

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It's i mean compared to Boston.
Bear in mind, I know it's

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hot in Minnesota. Will come on, it's like sixty degrees here right now.

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Yeah. I drove. I drove
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drove from my LA to San Francisco, and I got out of the car

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and shorts and a T shirt because
this was wh when I left, and

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it was like it was not it's
not cold in the grand scheme of cold,

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but it was cold for like the
beginning of August and summer. Want

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to hear is Whims. I went
to the beach yesterday. I read down

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there, and I'm down there in
my damn swim trunks, laying on a

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towel like you do when you go
to the beach. People are wearing fucking

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coach and park Is. They're wearing
like park Is on the beach. Yeah,

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I was the only person like laying
on the sand, just hanging out

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on a beach like a you know, normal dude. And they're all wearing

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idiot clothes. So I'm born exactly. I'm born and raised in the Midwest.

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I understand what cold is. I'm
not saying it's cold in the like

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the scope of human experience. I'm
saying for when I hear about like the

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sunshiny state of California in the summer, I would expect to be like seventy

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five. This is perfect weather,
and it's like, no, it's beautiful

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outside. But it's not like it's
not summer. It's like a beautiful springtime

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all the time. And that's okay. You even been to the dark side

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of the moon, come on,
I have not, But I don't know

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what that is. I mean,
the other side of the men work gets

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all cold and foggy. I mean
the moon, the actual moon where it

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gets real cool where the transformers are
right, yep, yeah, that's have

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we not learned our lesson from Age
of Extinction. We don't go over there

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because that's how transformers come and they
mess stuff up? Is that where they

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come from? And the transformers?
I think the second one didn't the second

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one have a moon? Didn't it
open with a moon thing? Saw that

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trailer where the Apollo landing like secretly
found some transformers stupids? Yeah, I

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mean yes, I mean we could. You should love it. Yeah,

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you can basically say stupid things.
Brad whoo wo woa, whoa, whoa.

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I'm an adults, adult things.
You are goddamn lying cartoon robots for

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little children. So California lied to
me. It's a little colder than I

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thought. I'm just ignoring you now. There are no Domino's pizzas anyway.

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The other are not one. There's
one in my hood, not down where

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I'm knocked down where I'm I'm currently
in corporate housing while I wait to move

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into my fathers many chains. No, it's and that's largely I'm cool with

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that. Like, I don't really
ascribe to the the Dan Record Jeff Gersman

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diet of only garbage chains or why
do you think they got that big?

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Because they're the best. How companies
work? You know? If you still

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yeah, if you stop interrupting me
before I'm about to sort of agree with

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you, giant corporate fast food.
No, no, I'm gonna stand up

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for him. Listen, because if
anybody needs defending, it's giant, multibillion

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dollars. Listen, help and Keller. Here's what I said. I said,

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only eating that stuff is not great. But I was like, what

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I was gonna say, is I
appreciate a late night online ordered pizza tract

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pizza when I feel like it.
Like I'm like, sometimes I don't want

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to call like the regional Pizza Plus
and see if it's okay or not.

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I need to have like guaranteed middle
quality but consistent pizza. And I couldn't

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get a pizza, could get a
Dominos pizza. It saved me for myself.

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But then I found a pizza,
so I was okay, I don't

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du it. California is known for
its pizza, is it? They have

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like that salad bread bullshit, But
it's not really pizza you know, like

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like Wolfgang Puck bakes a flat bread
piece of bread and it puts out on

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top of it. Like, that's
not a pizza. Man's a raw quail

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egg in the middle. Yeah,
this is just tough. There's no sauce.

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This sometimes like a white I'm like, it's a white pizza. I'm

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like, oh, it's bread,
and he's saying it's bread. Right,

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Yeah, we sort of imitate other
pizzas. Yeah, that's but like but

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like inaccurately, well, well they
they failed to fully match. It's a

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it's a deconstruction man. Yeah,
uh yeah happen. California is good for

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We'll see Mexican food, sushi,
Asian food. Yeah, pretty much.

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Sunset where I live awesome. I've
not had any sushi yet. No,

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I've had sushi in the Sony cafeteria. It was okay, Yeah, it

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was pretty across the street has pretty
good sushi. I wouldn't that's pretty good,

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didn't you guys say any hand of
all? I was, yeah,

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say, like, you know,
conditionally, if you sushi on five minutes,

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notice it's not that bad. Yes, compared to like seven to eleven

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sushi, which is also pretty good. Sure, Okay, pretty is it

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modifier in that sentence that I'm not
sure I agree with, but it's sure.

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So yeah, it's cold in the
summer, it's insanely expensive. There's

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no water to be had anywhere,
just except for an UCLA's campus. Would

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you just covering that millions of gallons
wa Welcome to Paradise. It's fantastic here,

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gorgeous, isn't it. Yeah,
And so that's happening. And I

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live here now and I still but
so like I'm here all the time,

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Like this is like it's not like
the first time I've seen you guys or

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done you know, the bombcasters are
hung out and I'm never anywhere from more

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than like a week or two at
a time anyway, So it still feels

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like this bizarre business trip where like
I just assume all my stuff is back

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in Boston because it's all like a
storage unit somewhere and that like I have

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two suitcases and I'm living out of
suitcases, and the only differences I go

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to the same place every day,
But I could be consulting on a Disney

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game or making a mobile game or
something. That's what it was like before.

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Trapped. Man, you don't get
to go back. It hasn't settled

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in and for the next for the
next six weeks, like I'm not here,

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I'm gonna be in Japan and Germany. So when will it feel like

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I live in San Francisco. Probably
when you go visit Boston. Yeah,

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like I'll just go home. Oh
no, I don't have a home.

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I'm all alone, but except all
the people who are living in my house

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to live there, and I have
a guest room there, so like I

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don't know, maybe it'll always feel
like I have Maybe I feel like I'm

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bicoastal, like I have two homes. Did they did they leave your bedroom

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just like it was when you went
off school. They didn't want touch it.

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So all your stuff on the made
in an office? Okay? But

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the but my, the pizza place
that I went to consistently in Boston did

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tweet a farewell to me and found
out through the grapevine that I was leaving

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and literally tweeted like, I don't
know how we're gonna meet our monthly numbers

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with you not in town. Man, that's a hell of a pizza place.

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And they don't tweet like like I
was like, oh, weir I

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don't know. They had a Twitter
acount. I give him a Pinocchio's pizza

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in the Harvard Square. Wow,
and they live the last week before that

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was like the three hundred and thirty
days. It looks like incredibly long time.

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And they and then I came in
that day to say goodbye. I

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went out to dinner with like a
net and a couple of guys from Harmonics

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and we went in and they were
like beside themselves. Wow. It was

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like the best worst feeling I am. I am. So it's the most

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sad I've been in the leaving process. Whether the pizza guy was like,

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we're gonna miss you, and that's
like, I'm gonna miss you, and

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then I left. So you know
that is an East Coast pizza joint.

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Yeah, I don't know if you
get it like that out here. No,

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they don't take their pizza seriously enough. I've heard pats Okay, first

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of all, that's how you say
that word that. I don't care if

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that's how they say because it's like
it's spelled pat x I right. I

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called him on the phone one time. Come on, I don't know,

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you can spell that a couple different
ways. You wanted to be. You

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watch a Voice Little Star. They're
both deep dish places. Yeah, but

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the Patchies is like in No Valley. Try place out in the way home

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and see there's a little star in
the mission, isn't there? Okay?

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I thought there. So I'm gonna
search pizza and yelp at some point.

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Okay, eating some pizza. I'll
let you know how it goes. Okay,

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but I hope John Drakes Pizza Minute, Pizza Minute, we should do

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that. Yeah. I will call
in with the Pizza Minute every week.

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All right on the BombCast. All
right, Well, we're glad to have

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you out here. I'm glad to
be. We look forward to never ever

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seeing you because we're always traveling.
Yeah, it's hard to come down here

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in the middle of the day.
Just call you up sometime, be like,

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Hey, are you coming to San
Francisco anytime soon? Nope, Okay,

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I'm here before eight am, and
if you want me before an am,

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I'm here. Otherwise I'll be out
in the middle of no I'll come

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meet you for a pink berry at
terminal two. Let's do it. That's

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my jam. The best part of
this process is that I get to fly

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Virgin America and I get to go
out of the cool terminal term. Although

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terminal three, I don't know if
you've been through there no branded ye to

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be fair, you have to fly
United to this. I'm gonna fly United

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a lot. Apparently was United suppose
like the United hubs, So you kind

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of have to a bunch of times. But that's not a great terminal.

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Well, so they just remodeled to
water. Yeah, there's there's a wing

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of Terminal three that's better than Terminal
two, now what I know. So

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I know people listening right now probably
are as interested as they are when you

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talk about DODA. Yeah we're talking
about talking about talking about airport terminals.

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But literally is the most exciting thing
is the giant self indulgent cast. It's

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so it's all I care about.
All I do is I want to have

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Admiral's Club next to a Pinkberry,
next to a pizza place, and I

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would literally never leave the airport.
I would just sleep there. I was

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just blown away that they have like
like not just water fountains, but like

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water fountains intended for filling up a
water bottle. Oh yeah, like that

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blew my mind, Like, let
me let me change the mechanical fixture here,

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so like right, sure, you
can fill up your disposal water bottle

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you've emptied out before security. And
they have like as many power plugs as

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there are seats over there. It's
the best, like it's crazy, I

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suppose, is the only place that
I found what I like to deem the

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perfect bathroom, which is uh,
you walk in and it's it's a it's

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a zig zag so you can't see
in, but you don't have to touch

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any doors. I can get in. They do like the roundabout thing where

406
00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:07.359
you know, you go around the
pillar if you're coming in and effectively like

407
00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:11.960
the revolving door of not having revolving
exactly. Then you go in and the

408
00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:19.119
toilets are auto flush. Then you
go over and the sink is auto auto

409
00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:25.000
water. The rare thing is auto
soap dispens me up, but SFO has

410
00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:29.559
that, and then auto drive,
the air blades, everything is automatic.

411
00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:33.039
You can go in there like and
not touch any You don't have to engage

412
00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:36.279
with any other person's filth. The
only bathrooms i've and I've looked, the

413
00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:38.359
only bathrooms I've ever found, the
dude, this are in sfl Are.

414
00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:42.200
You Howard Hughes. You can cover
your so like, that's that's the funny

415
00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:47.160
thing. Tune in every week for
Druce Scandalon's bathroom minute. Yeah, that's

416
00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:49.079
it's pretty much every half an hour
from one. I can tell the but

417
00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:52.279
you can cover your hands and paint
and go in there and literally not touch

418
00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:55.200
anything. Yeah, like yeah,
Blue Man Group could use that bathroom till

419
00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:00.240
well, they're they're dorks that Blue
on it. I thought I think it

420
00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:04.920
was like they are dorks. No, No, they're Yes, they're good.

421
00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:08.519
What Blue Man Group. Yeah,
I don't know anything about that.

422
00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:11.480
I don't either. I auditioned for
the Blueman Group ones, No you didn't,

423
00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:14.759
and for Stomp. I got pretty
far on the stomp on ones when

424
00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:15.880
I was in college. I can
see that I was a drummer. You

425
00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:18.920
are, yeah stomp. When I
was nineteen, I got to the last

426
00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.519
round of callbacks for Stomping. It's
a very dance bass. But the one

427
00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:23.759
that they're using like trash, candlids
and all things are crazy found objects.

428
00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:26.680
There's a whole solo where you had
to you had to learn a solo of

429
00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:30.200
the guy who just almost like if
you take your two hands like in a

430
00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.799
prayer hands thing I will describe because
we were doing radio uh, and you

431
00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:37.720
like sort of rub them back and
forth, like you're almost like you're rubbing

432
00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:40.599
a stick that you'd rub if you
were starting a fire. If you get

433
00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:41.559
it, if you get it going
fast enough, you can actually get it

434
00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:47.440
clapping. Okay, got it.
And there's this dude you kind of relaxed

435
00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:48.680
the Yeah, so you gotta let
them kind of slap into each other.

436
00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:51.799
And there was this dude who and
you can probably find on YouTube who is

437
00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:53.400
crazy solo. He would like start
kind of clapping and stomping his feet and

438
00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:56.440
then he would just thing where else. Sudden he'd be going incredibly fast and

439
00:23:56.480 --> 00:24:00.079
playing like thirty second notes with his
hands in front of his face. And

440
00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:03.400
they were like, you have ten
minutes to learn this, and so I

441
00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:04.359
learned it and it was like super
cool and fun. And then they're like,

442
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.200
now we're gonna do dances with trash
game lift and smash into each other.

443
00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:10.920
And I was like, this seems
incredibly dangerous. I am not coordinate

444
00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:11.920
enough for this. And then I
didn't get called back after that round,

445
00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:15.960
but yeah, stomp, I almost
dropped out of school. Oh your life

446
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.880
could have been so different and went
to become a professional drummer, and instead

447
00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:21.799
I make video games for a living. What a mistake. Instead you're here

448
00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:25.400
working for Sony talking to you,
living in our fair city. Yeah,

449
00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:27.319
on the giant bomb cast could have
still happened. Ye could have made a

450
00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:30.960
stop still time man, could still
happen. You got you got a lot

451
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.880
of good years ahead of you.
Yeah stop call me. Yep, I'm

452
00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:36.720
looking to get out. Yep,
we'll wrap you. Have you had any

453
00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:41.319
time during all this insanity to play
video games? So just in the past,

454
00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:42.799
I'd say, like week and a
half, Like, all my stuff

455
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:45.200
is packed up, So my PS
four, my xbots one, and my

456
00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.759
PC, all that stuff is packed
up. I had my Vita, but

457
00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:52.119
then I forgot the charger, so
my Vida died uh and I did not

458
00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:55.079
have a cable for it, so
I basically no way to play games for

459
00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:56.319
like a week and a half.
And then I stole a PS four from

460
00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.680
work and took it home to my
corporate housing. So in the past week,

461
00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:03.400
I've and I got a Vida charger. So I'm now playing Rogue Legacy

462
00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:04.920
Excellent, which is so good.
Yes, it was your first time,

463
00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:07.720
did you play the PC version?
It was just it's my first time I

464
00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:11.200
didn't play the PC version, and
it is really hard, yes, and

465
00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:12.880
like brutally hard, and like from
the art style and the look of it,

466
00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:15.960
I knew it was kind of like
a rogue light or a roguelike uh.

467
00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:18.680
And I was playing, I was
like, oh, maybe this will

468
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:21.880
be like difficult at some point,
and then it was like immediately like nope.

469
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:23.839
First room died and I was like, oh, oh okay uh and

470
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:26.720
second room died and I'm like okay. So so I played that for like

471
00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:30.519
two or three hours and I didn't
get very far, but I really liked

472
00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:32.200
it, and so I'm gonna put
some more time in that this week.

473
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:37.680
And then I played Guacammelee Super Turbo
Championship Edition. I had somehow missed Guacamlee

474
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:40.599
the first time around, and I
really liked that game. It's cool,

475
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:42.119
super charming game with a great little
art style. So I was basically browsing

476
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:45.559
the PS four store and just buying
things on our platform, with some of

477
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:49.279
which have crosses, yeah, getting
them indies and so yeah, my vida.

478
00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:52.000
I've been playing also the God of
War collection on my Vida because I'm

479
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:57.400
trying to support them first party titles, and I think that's it. Otherwise,

480
00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:00.839
I went and saw a human baseball
game in Whoa, I'm Friday Giants

481
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:03.640
game. I went No. I
went down to LA for a Dodgers game

482
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:07.880
Dodgers Cubs, because I'm a Cubs
fan, and we took a bunch of

483
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.200
people out of Vinyaki was there.
A couple of people came out for Andrew's

484
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:14.039
birthday. We went and saw the
game and the game was a blowout.

485
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:15.960
I was eight to two. It's
always fun people leaving in the seventh inning.

486
00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:18.759
Yeah, so it was kind of
great. So we were in these

487
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.680
box this box area wasn't like a
fancy box seats, but it was like

488
00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:23.680
this just separate floor where they had
a different bars. People were pretty hammered

489
00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:27.759
and after like six inchs or seven
innings, like the score was pretty insurmountable,

490
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:30.880
like the game was pretty much over
and people and that level they had

491
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.000
they had waiters who would go around
and once a while they'd stop by and

492
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:34.759
ask if you wanted, you know, drinks or food, and you could

493
00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:37.000
order from them, or you could
go by yourself at the stands behind you

494
00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:41.000
and they had menus in the seats
of like, hey, here are the

495
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:41.799
things that are behind you if you
don't want to turn around, cause do

496
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:45.000
that fucking lazy h And at some
point, like the seventh inning, people

497
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.160
just started being like, well,
this game is boring. I'm gonna make

498
00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:52.920
paper airplanes. And so this entire
section of the stadium started making paper airplanes.

499
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:56.480
And it was so quiet. People
were so uninterested in the game that

500
00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:59.720
literally there's a paper airplane that hung
and you could actually just hear this ground

501
00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:03.200
swell of like cheering and suspense and
excitement, and the things landed on the

502
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:06.759
field and people went fucking bananas.
We're screaming and high fiving each other.

503
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:10.759
It was it was incredible. So
you know who threw the errant plane?

504
00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:12.640
I do not came from above us, Okay, but there was like there

505
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:17.640
were probably about forty or fifty airplanes
thrown in about anything and a half's like

506
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:21.039
grounds for rejection or something like interfering
with the It's hard to spot somebody throwing

507
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:22.920
I mean, they're not dangerous,
they're just you know, they're flowing out

508
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:25.640
there. And then uh, and
then we saw fire, the fireworks on

509
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:30.119
after the after the game, so
it was their loss was it was the

510
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.920
Dodgers loss. So it was like, yeah, it is the Cubs we're

511
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:34.559
talking about. I'm sure, No, it's not. It's surprising they won.

512
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:37.759
So it's Friday night fireworks. They
have them every Friday, and it's

513
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:41.039
like, win or lose, we're
gonna shoot some fireworks off got blown out.

514
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:42.319
We don't give a shit. We
blows the stuff up in the parking

515
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.240
lot. So that was fun.
And then I drove back and listen to

516
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.359
this terrible show and I feel the
shows on my drive. I couldn't play

517
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:51.680
games because I was in the car
for twelve hours. So yeah, I

518
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:53.160
haven't played as many games i'd like, but I'm playing a couple of games.

519
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:56.519
Oh and I'm also weirdly playing Asassin's
Screed four again. I just like

520
00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:00.160
I had that. So that was
one of the disks that was like in

521
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.799
my office when I got there,
you just like find yeah, random four

522
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.319
games like Stuck in the couch cushions. They're like, here's a welcome pack

523
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:10.720
of like a very random assortment of
games, like some Japanese games you never

524
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:14.920
heard of. And Assassin's Creed four
got a four one and you're like,

525
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.960
okay, uh. And so I
took it home, and I had only

526
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:19.759
really played it like trading controllers off
on someone else's profile, so I didn't

527
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:22.680
have a save on my profile.
So I just started a new campaign was

528
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.680
playing through it, and it was
like one hundred percent islands and stuff like

529
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:30.119
that. And that game is still
fun to kind of like the exploration and

530
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.880
and like getting stuff in that game
is still way better than the actual mission

531
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:36.000
to mission stuff a lot of the
time. But I'm you know, I'm

532
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.440
playing through it again. I'm enjoying
it. Assassinated an awful lot, Yes,

533
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:42.079
almost immediately, and I shot an
iguana excellent, killed an iguanna with

534
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:45.599
a gun, which is like just
so overkilling. Also, those guns are

535
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.359
sporting, Yeah, they're not.
Like it's not like a twenty two rifles.

536
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.640
Like this is like basically a hand
cannon shooting a thing. It's the

537
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:53.640
size of a love of bread,
Like it would just explode. Like there's

538
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:56.079
no way that things survive in a
piece. It's usable. Come on,

539
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.960
Assassin's Creed, you're supposed to be
historically accurate. Get your anatomy done,

540
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.880
your animal anatomy, So are you? Are you forbidden from playing games on

541
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.799
any other platforms now or through.
No. I mean I research, man,

542
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.119
Yeah, I gotta you gotta play
everything, so especially PC games.

543
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:11.319
I'm excited for my my tower to
come back out so I can set that

544
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:14.759
up and my TV because I don't
have a TV, so that would also

545
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:15.799
help. I didn't even know you
had a PC. I never thought of

546
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:19.039
you. I always assumed you were
just like a MacBook and done type of

547
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.599
First of all, how dare you? Second of all, I just played

548
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:26.559
games on your rock band. I
only played games that are supported by the

549
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.640
rock band drums set uh and the
stage kit. The No, I have

550
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:32.720
a PC, and I mean I
don't plays many PC games as they do

551
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:34.920
console games. I prefer the console
experience. I think it's nice to have

552
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.640
an ecosystem where a lot of my
friends are organized in a way that's not

553
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:42.000
at the whims of Steam being up
or down? Or are you just talking

554
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.680
about Doda for hours and hours and
every status that day you post? So?

555
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.519
Yeah, but no, I play
a lot of PC games. We

556
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.200
were you know, I was making
Chroma for a while game and but you

557
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.279
know, I play a lot of
everything. I'm supposed to just kind of

558
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:59.680
play everything. So I've still sucked
down the web of or down the well

559
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.079
down the funnel metaphors doesn't matter.
I have an English degree. It's fine.

560
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:07.200
The I'm licensed to the I'm still
stuck in the world that I you

561
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:12.240
know, my game of the Year
for twenty thirteen, Pegel two Man Call

562
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:15.480
The Call of PEG two is strong
for me. I know anybody who was

563
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.079
still playing th that I knew the
first of all, there's two dealc packs

564
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.279
though, Carlor. Yeah, there's
Jimmy Lightning, who's the multi ball guy

565
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.039
from the first one, Jimmy Lightning. How could I have forgot? And

566
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:27.640
and there's Yes, he's like the
skateboarding hamps. Yeah, and he has

567
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:33.079
like a Figaro mashed up with dubstep
music thing. It's incredible. Uh.

568
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:37.599
And then there's some fairy flock girl
who's like causes everything to be purple purple

569
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.319
pegs. And I believe that game's
coming out on other platforms too, but

570
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.440
right now it's on Xbox Ones.
That's where I saved. I'm trying to

571
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:48.079
fully complete it with every trophy,
uh and achieving in that game, so

572
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.000
I'm still like grinding through pegl but
it's like, you know, it's a

573
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:53.480
three minute game, but it's basically
a mobile game on my Giant TV.

574
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:57.799
But something about the sound design and
like the pace of that game is weirdly

575
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.640
relaxing, where when I cannot sit
down and play a game for two or

576
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.759
three hours, when they get into
a game, if I have like twenty

577
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:06.839
minutes while my girlfriend's doing her hair, I'm waiting for something to arrive.

578
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:08.480
Like I can bang out a couple
of rounds of pegel Too and feel like

579
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.960
I've accomplished something with my list.
It's really well produced. I mean,

580
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.279
it looks great, you know,
and I feel fanfair. Every time you

581
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:18.160
finish him a match or around is
fantastic coming. I feel legitimately a little

582
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:19.480
dumb saying how much I played pegel
Too. And people are gonna be like,

583
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:22.359
oh, he's what kind of games
is this jerk gonna go out and

584
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:23.519
get if he's like still playing pegle
Too for all these months, But man,

585
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:27.400
it makes me happy. It's so
getting them big hug. Yeah,

586
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.119
every time you finished the level,
it's like my mom spaghetti. It's not

587
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.279
the best saghetti in the universe,
but when she makes it, I'm pretty

588
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:38.599
excited about it. Feels like home, PlayStation home. Nobody feels comfortable there.

589
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:41.119
And yeah, and if you leave
it on, you know, you

590
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:45.400
can just fire the Xbox up and
be in there in five seconds. It's

591
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.079
all I use my Xbox for.
Yeah, I literally use my x play

592
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:52.720
peleton once four getting that feature huh
r man so zooms pretty nice. Oh

593
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.839
interest should tell somebody's down there.
And I like that. People will now

594
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.720
thank me and Adam like I think
they added three D ray support the other

595
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:01.519
day. Yeah, I got a
bunch of tweets being like, thank you

596
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.480
so much for this speech. And
I've been like, guys, I've been

597
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.640
here for two weeks. I'm excited. Thanks for moving those system notifications to

598
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.680
the other side. It's casey big
three D movie guys. I don't know,

599
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.720
but he's excited about dumb you know, tiny edge case features that he's

600
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:20.440
like been petitioning for via Twitter or
something like that. That's just how good

601
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.960
you are? You just came in. You kick the door down. We're

602
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:27.440
like three D right now. Yes, it's like this package sing by the

603
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:29.519
door. Do you no one think
to take this outside? Take it outside?

604
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:30.240
And they're like, oh, kid's
done now, No, that's not

605
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.519
at all how anything works. It's
like years of planning and execution by smart

606
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.319
people know how computers work. And
I'm assumed guy in in office being like,

607
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.279
I have ginger beer in my office. Would you like a ginger beer?

608
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:45.039
That's my role Pegel two. Well, great, we're happy to have

609
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.519
you here. I'm happy to be
here. Are other people playing games?

610
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.920
That's my question for you, brother
the host, than well for now,

611
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:57.000
shit, keep it up man.
You're you're like the secret shopper of podcasting.

612
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:00.400
Yeah, never blew your cover as
soon as you came in. Yeah,

613
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:01.079
but I'm walking. I'm like,
Hey, I'm seventeen. I want

614
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:04.640
to buy cigarettes. Here's my idea, says I'm eighteen, give me cigarettes.

615
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.160
I'm gonna need to see what happens, see a second form of identification,

616
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.720
sir, I'll have that. Give
me some cigarette. I'm fraid I

617
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:14.279
can't help your. Secret shoppers are
the ones where like they go around the

618
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.000
store acting like they're shopping, but
they're really looking for there. No,

619
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:21.960
No, they're judging the performance of
like the retail staff, Like they're in

620
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:24.079
there to see what the customer experience
is like, yes and nothing. They

621
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.720
go in and complete transactions. You
know, like they're paid to go in

622
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.759
and buy specific items and come out
with them. This is a true story.

623
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:35.960
When I get got laid off from
my game industry job, I was

624
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:40.240
looking on Craigslist for jobs. That's
where I found Whiskey Media. And when

625
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:45.599
I had Whiskey Media open in a
tab, I had a few other tabs

626
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:49.720
also open. One of those tabs
was secret super really Yeah wow fun.

627
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.440
Yeah, it does sound. I
don't think it pays super well though,

628
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:59.599
No. Zero. It's literally like
you're filling out a survey and I can

629
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:01.799
say for an intern ship t shirts. Yeah, I might be crazy,

630
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:04.680
but I want to say I've seen
that. It's like, you know,

631
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.720
you get like thirty or fifty bucks
to go into a store and do it.

632
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:10.559
How you get a discount you do
for Target, I'm sure maybe they'll

633
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:14.360
let you keep whatever the items are
that you have to buy, so it's

634
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.760
like legal shoplifting. It's like,
hey, I only made fifty bucks a

635
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:22.119
day, but I got this deodor
in this panty. I want to make

636
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:23.519
sure. I know you're gonna ask
peop about games are playing, but I

637
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:27.119
was to make sure I like put
a little bookmark in your ear right now,

638
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.079
we at talk about Matt Keesler at
some point during this Oh god,

639
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.679
just because I now I'm as co
worker and have you been playing is Matt

640
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:36.760
Kessler video game? Have you have
you been playing? I mean I've actually

641
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:37.880
spent all day playing the game.
And is Matt Kesler? We can come

642
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:42.760
back to it in a different non
John drink, Yeah, I heard you've

643
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:47.960
been playing Matt Kessler. Simulator twenty
fourteen is literally the most surreal game I

644
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:52.519
have ever played. It is like
Sweary made Matt Kesler. Wow, he

645
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:54.679
is a human being, is basically
a sweary real life Okay, now that

646
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:59.960
you're getting the around the clock treatment, he's an It's a waking nightmare.

647
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:04.639
I think, Oh, I think. I think that Adam Boys hired me

648
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.480
as like a third party verification source, like the guys are coming from the

649
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.800
uend of like certify elections, as
like being voter fraud free, to be

650
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:14.760
like the things this dude says are
so crazy. I need someone from the

651
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:16.440
outside world to come in and verify
that I'm not losing my mind. And

652
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:19.639
in fact, he is crazy.
I feel he's a crazy persons. So

653
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.400
like I would say, no fewer
than like half a dozen people that I

654
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.360
follow on Twitter that work at Sony
at this point, like tweet quotes out

655
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:30.119
of context from him regularly, like
on a regular, almost daily basis.

656
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:31.760
He's like a sound bite machine.
If the business that he represented he makes

657
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:36.280
making sound bites for was nightmares and
confusion. And it's incredible, Like I

658
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:39.199
am becoming familiar with people at Sony
that I didn't know based on retweets of

659
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:44.559
them quoting Medcastler. He in so
he's not. I don't want to spend

660
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:46.079
I don't want to die too much
into his personal life because it's his business

661
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:49.159
and I only want to capitalize on
as much as it benefits me. How

662
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.880
much he eats fruit, So he
doesn't eat fruit at all. It was

663
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.920
just like a thing that he's like
never so like he makes Dan Reiker look

664
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:00.920
like the Phantom gourmet, Like motherfucker
eats everything compared compared to Kessler. But

665
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:05.159
he doesn't eat a lot of fruits. And I will not go into detail

666
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:07.920
about him trying. He's trying things
now. I think it's great, but

667
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.559
he literally at some point Adam was
looking at me and then he was looking

668
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:13.719
at Kessler looking at me, and
he goes Kesler, Have you ever had

669
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.199
a raisin? And he's like,
maybe when I was like three years old.

670
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:19.280
I don't know. Maybe I've had
a raisin. I don't, but

671
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:21.840
not since then. I don't think. I don't won Yeah, like I

672
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:23.880
don't think I liked it. And
he's like, so, you've never had

673
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:27.159
a raisin? He goes, well, I mean other than in a cookie

674
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:29.280
trap, but that's the only time. And I was like, I'm sorry,

675
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:31.559
did you just say cookie trap?
Like that's like a common cause he

676
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:34.079
goes, yea, you know,
it's like when they give you a cookie

677
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:35.639
and you're like, oh, delicious
cooking, and then you bite into it

678
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:37.639
and you're like, oh, there's
fruit in here. I've been I've been

679
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:43.000
tricked. And then for like an
entire day, he was responding to everything

680
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.920
I said with game respect game,
no matter what it was. I would

681
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:47.360
be like, yeah, I also, you know, I also had cereal

682
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:50.760
when I was little, and like
had cheerios without milk, and I think

683
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.119
they're pretty tasty. I like cheerios
and he goes, yeah, game respect

684
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.000
game, and I was like,
no, God damn it, no,

685
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:59.559
game does not respect game. You
don't talk. Stop talking. But he

686
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:04.599
is a Yeah, he's he's an
amusing but weirdly insightful and knowledgeable and kind

687
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:07.440
of awesome person to have on a
team. But also like the things he

688
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.440
says for entertainment value alone are worth
probably two times what I think they're paying

689
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.679
him. You should, you should
try playing DODA with him. Sometimes I

690
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.760
can only imagine he's hilarious something else
it really yeah, he really is.

691
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:21.360
But he's like Dan Reicherd if you
took all the snark out and like any

692
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.880
opinion about something that you thought was
valid and just made it only polarize crazy

693
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:28.800
opinions. Sure, but said with
his certainty and same like sort of like

694
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.559
gut gut instinct that Dan has.
Okay, but he's never had fruit.

695
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:35.679
Really, he's had like three fruits
yet he had Oh god, he ate

696
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:37.119
a banana. Yes, he ate
a banana, and he was and he

697
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.760
apparently he was quoted as saying I
ate it. And then it was I

698
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:44.760
didn't really chew. It was just
sort of gone. It was like eating

699
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:47.000
a ghost. Yes, yes,
that was recounted to me. I was

700
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:52.800
like, what the fuck does that
mean? The story? And then I

701
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:54.119
believe the last story I will tell? And I told him I was gonna

702
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.840
talk abutim before I came on,
so he should not be offended or I

703
00:37:57.880 --> 00:37:59.840
don't believe so. At least it
doesn't report to me. So whatever,

704
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:04.159
uh is he They said he's gonna
tryng He never orange juice. He's gonna

705
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:06.519
try orange juice for the first time. And someone said, oh, you're

706
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:10.280
trying with pulp, and he goes, what is this fear factor? Go

707
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:14.480
meet this guy? Yeah, it's
basically like eating purred cockroaches. You know,

708
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:16.199
he's incredible. So he used to
get sandwiches for people, a giant

709
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:19.840
poland he's an account representative. It's
sounding. You know, we gave him

710
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:22.559
games. We gave him the best
possible start. I think, you know,

711
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.719
it's worked out pretty well for him. It's obviously the natural career trajectory

712
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:30.159
from sandwich pick up to third party
account management. Yeah, you know,

713
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:34.559
but he but he knows things about
games that no one else. I mean,

714
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.760
he's really like is inside that system
in a very special way. All

715
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.280
the time we spent like idiots eating
fruit in our lives, he's just dedicated

716
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:45.159
to learn about video He was busy
playing Persona or yeah exactly whatever or Doda

717
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.800
hours and hours and wait till,
just wait till I heard his his like

718
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:52.639
massive presentations that happen, They're amazing, seen one. I've seen the campus

719
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.880
there, I've heard. I've heard
great things about his his like video game

720
00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:00.440
school. I bring him up mostly
because he's like he no former filiate of

721
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:02.480
the site, and like he's actually
like a really sweet good dude. Well,

722
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:06.639
friend is a strong word. I
think he's a person that you're aware

723
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.159
of because he's also crazy. So
you want to keep him in arms lane

724
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:12.159
because he might murder you in your
sleep. Oh, I don't think he's

725
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.679
care well, I don't think he's
capable. He's threatened. He's threatened your

726
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.280
life a lot, specifically you.
There's a lot of beef. I'm not

727
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:22.960
sure he's ever eaten beef, but
he's one side of beef. We need

728
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:27.639
to talk later, doda, doda, life threatening. We should anyway,

729
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:29.960
we should discuss this. That's all
made up. But Kesso is a good

730
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:30.800
dude, so anyway. Yeah,
but he doesn't eat fruit, and he's

731
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:35.159
weird as hell, and he sits
down the hall from me and says crazy

732
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.840
shit about this. You hear it
drifting down the hall. Yes, I

733
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:40.039
walked down there and within five minutes
I always walk away being like god damn

734
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:43.880
it and just walking out the direction
because he's fucking crazy. It's great.

735
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:46.360
But he's amusing. So that's great
when he works there. When we first

736
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.960
went there, like a month after
he'd started, he was like he was

737
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:53.119
like quarantined, like on the other
end of the office because we were in

738
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:57.119
the bullpit there, you know where
or the bullpen where like all those guys,

739
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:00.559
all the like third party people are
yeah, and he wasn't there,

740
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:02.079
and we were like, well,
we want to see you, want to

741
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:05.159
say, hide Kesler, And they're
like and they're like, oh yeah,

742
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:07.480
we'll take you over there. And
we walk like a good like ninety seconds

743
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:09.760
to the other end of the floor
and there's like an area where there are

744
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:14.440
no desks are occupied except for him. He's a laptop. He has moved

745
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:15.719
into the center of things. So
yeah, when I heard that he had

746
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:17.840
been integrated into the group, I
was like, all right, he's moving

747
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.760
on this social experiment. Yeah,
well see how it guys. But yeah,

748
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:24.079
he's I'm excited for him. He
is single handedly makes work working at

749
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:27.480
Sony worth it. Every day I
go in and he says something, and

750
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:30.159
I go, yep, that's the
right place. This is the right amount

751
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:34.760
of like Morning Zoo show that I
want in my day. That's fantastic.

752
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.440
Yeah, he's a good guy.
I'm glad things are going well for everybody.

753
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:42.280
Yeah you can say that, Drew. Yeah, hello, Hi,

754
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.639
Hi, what have you been up
to? Well, things weren't going so

755
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:52.760
well for me and Dan record earlier
today when we played pine Wheel pin Wheel?

756
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:58.159
No you guys, did you guys
ever watched pin Wheel? Pinwheel?

757
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:00.559
What hell is that? Back in
the day, that's pin wheel? Let's

758
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:06.159
move on. I want to know. I actually pee all. I could

759
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:08.239
remember the show, Okay, I
think it was like I think it was

760
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:13.039
on Nickelodeon. I would have seen
it. Yeah, I think it was

761
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.519
some kind of variety thing. They're
in the Roundhouse. I don't actually when

762
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:21.079
House was on Snick. It came
on after It's Clarissa and then Roundhouse.

763
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:23.880
Yah, Saturday Night Nickelodeon. Are
you Afraid of the Door? It was

764
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:27.039
like it was like t G I
f but it was Snick. It was

765
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.920
Saturday Night Nickelodeon. I wasn't watching
Nickelodeon at that point, thank you.

766
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:34.480
And it was like ninety two ninety
three when you were a child. You

767
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:39.960
mean it was random, stimpy.
Yeah, it's good stuff. Okay,

768
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:43.119
Brad's fifty five years old. Ye
that's right, Okay, don't forget.

769
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.920
Yeah, like it my day.
Drew brought up Supermarket Sweep, which was

770
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.679
a genuinely and mean Yeah, that
was fantastic. Was more. I was

771
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:53.880
more like like doubledare You can't do
that on television. Okay, Roundhouse was

772
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:58.559
that it was before that, Actually
Roundhouse it was way around that same time.

773
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:00.920
Well, yeah, you can't do
it that television round House. Do

774
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:05.000
you remember what would you do with
Mark Simmers? Yeah? That was the

775
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.880
best because kid, Yeah it had
the giant roll or the pie coaster yea,

776
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.159
and the pie Flinger. Yeah,
but the best was when a kid

777
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:13.960
would just put a coin and do
like a random door on this huge wall

778
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:16.159
and you'd either get like a water
bottle or a gorilla hand would just put

779
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.360
a pie in your face. Yep. It was great. It's your dream,

780
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.880
your dream. It was a fantastic
show. Yeah, no, that's

781
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:25.599
that show is pretty unstoppable. But
I can't believe you never can't. We

782
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:30.719
never really watched Snake. Never watch
all your Fraid of the Dark terrifying show?

783
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:35.840
Is that? Like, is that
like a PG version of Tales from

784
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.920
the Crypt? Yes, the same
concept. Yeah, like kind of serialized.

785
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:45.159
Yea killed the clowns and but it
was like it was like Goose.

786
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:47.079
Yeah, but it was like it
was like single vignettes, right, it

787
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:51.760
was like yeah, like Twilight,
Twilight sometimes an episode, but yeah,

788
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:55.480
standalone, no continuity, nope,
zero experience. What was the not Supermarket

789
00:42:55.519 --> 00:43:00.079
Sweep? What was like was it
it's not shop? How you drop it?

790
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.559
Drop? Came on after Supermarket Sweep
on Lifetime. Yeah, stories,

791
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.039
I don't know, because those two
shows are in a Lifetime Viewer, and

792
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.840
those two shows they're incredible. You
just go right to the turkey section of

793
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.320
Supermarket Sweep. Load up on turkeys
are the most valuable, Grab the inflatable

794
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.440
green giant. You're set. Yeah, that's what you do on Supermarket Sweep.

795
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.519
Yeah, I don't know. Supermarket
Sweep was a lot less interesting after

796
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.159
somebody theory crafted it to death.
Just how many turkeys gonna fit in my

797
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:30.079
card? I win? It's like
when the guy broke Uh, it was

798
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:36.159
the the Noammy's game pressure. Yeah, so I figured that out. Like

799
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:40.800
mathematically, he knew that the like
patterns new whendo press the buttons card counters.

800
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:44.760
Yeah, but then so you can
break the meta in Supermarket Sweep when

801
00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:50.480
you find something flexible enough to cram
in between the turkeys, string cheese.

802
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:57.880
The meta game exhausting Frozen Frozen peas
new meta. So either're all flexible to

803
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.519
fit in the crevices. I know. Tell me what video game you were

804
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:05.440
gonna, Oh, Penwell Partywell Party, yes, also known as pine View

805
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:10.960
Drive, similar clothes. Yeah,
oh, it's a horror game, self

806
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.639
professed. It's fifteen dollars on his
team out now, don't buy it,

807
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.920
all right, it would feel terrible
quick look up now, Okay, oh

808
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:22.760
god, how much is it just
you guys suffering through like really bad UI?

809
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:24.400
And how much is actually the game? It's not. There's like no

810
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:28.639
ui. There is no ui.
The game is you're in the mansion and

811
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:31.400
you find keys and open doors and
spooky sounds happen, so it's like haunted

812
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:37.440
house. And then you read a
boring diary entry and fall asleep. Yeah

813
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.360
it's so boring that you fall.
Character falls asleep for you as a player

814
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:45.119
falls. Yeah, So it's just
a boring horror game. Yeah, I

815
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.199
mean, there wasn't really any horror
that happened. I mean, I guess

816
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:51.599
it would be spooky if you went
into an old house in the woods,

817
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.840
but like there weren't any specters or
crazy monsters or anything. Or it's like

818
00:44:54.920 --> 00:45:00.119
gone home but garbage. A painting
got creepy for a second and then is

819
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:01.119
it And then there was a key
on the floor. So I'd like more

820
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:05.599
like a borer game. Oh that's
why they made you the host of this

821
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:09.719
ship nice bread for now. Uh
what prompted you to take that one instead

822
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:16.519
of leaving it to young Clctic because
we never horror stream today. Okay,

823
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:19.920
so it was just like, hey, let's find something on Steam. Times

824
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.360
it comes to that pretty much.
Sometimes chefs out and I'm doing podcasts.

825
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:24.760
I've got some other stuff I'm working
on that that needs a little more time.

826
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:30.480
Yeah, an, he teases,
you want to give I'm personally fairly

827
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:32.199
excited about one of the things that
you're checking out. Oh really, yeah,

828
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:35.199
but I don't know if you want
me to say what it is or

829
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:37.719
not. All right, I'm trying
so all right, Well, I'll say

830
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:45.079
I have been wanting to play Star
since that's the one. Yeah, so

831
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.719
kind of wasn't part of it,
so it word of it exists. It

832
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:52.679
was it was inexecutable for a while, right where you could load up and

833
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:54.480
then walk around your ship in its
hangar. Right, it was just like

834
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:59.000
a customization build out for your ship. Barely that. It was more like,

835
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:02.159
look at this model. You you
bought this dulation. Yep, here

836
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:08.000
it is here. It is virtual
physical glory. Yep. Uh. Now

837
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:15.880
you can get in your ship and
fly around in the hangar. That sounds

838
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:21.320
super dangerous in space. And uh, you can also do a sort of

839
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:24.480
wave based thing. Okay, so
what's not multiplayer in any way? It

840
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:29.320
is, but only if you are
in the first like thirty thousand people or

841
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.599
whatever. Okay, that put money
into this thing exactly. So it has

842
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:36.119
not rolled into me yet for the
multiplayer and I'm waiting for that to happen.

843
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:38.199
Did you did you? Did you
bought into this or did you didn't

844
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:40.960
get in touch with them and they
liked press access or something? Correct?

845
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.280
So what was what were the pricing
tiers? Like, like what's the amount

846
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:49.480
of money you could pay money and
like own star citizen you get like whatever

847
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.000
that even means there's a low one. I think it's like thirty bucks.

848
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:53.239
You can own it and when it
comes out, you get it. You

849
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:57.480
get a ship. Just here's the
game. Yep. Get in the alpha

850
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:00.280
or the beta. You can pay
a little more. I think it's like

851
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:02.920
forty five bucks to get into the
alpha, in the beta, the beta,

852
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:06.480
I don't know. And then it
goes all the way up to like

853
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:07.719
ten grands. Oh yeah, no, I've heard of people putting ten grands

854
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.280
into the thing. Yeah, it's
the world of like, never put a

855
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:14.239
ceiling on how much you'll let a
free to play player pay for your game,

856
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:15.599
because they some of them will pay
ten thousand dollars and take their money

857
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:19.039
and it's like they just come out
of the new ship today. Yeah,

858
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.760
it's like the the they call it
like the Racer Class or whatever. It's

859
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.599
like a really fast ship. You
can use it for running blockades or whatever.

860
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:29.119
Ninety dollars. Wow, what comments
below? You just bought this?

861
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:32.079
It's great? What what are you
doing with it? Like, you don't

862
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:36.480
even know if you like this game
yet? Out it's barely a game,

863
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.360
like can you at least take any
fair? There's some pretty awesome stuff in

864
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:44.679
it so far, and the manual
is And I'll say, as someone who

865
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:49.079
like professionally looks at games in like
a pre alpha stay and decides like if

866
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.920
games will be good when they are
finally done down the road, I think

867
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:53.239
this game has a ton of promise
and looks really amazing, like Pitch,

868
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:55.639
the pitch sounds incredible, and I
would definitely wrong, no, and I

869
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:59.079
would definitely put in like forty five
dollars to be a part of that process.

870
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:01.719
It rolls out. But in this
period of time, investing like hundreds

871
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:06.280
or thousands of dollars into a game
doesn't feel stupid. It just feels premature.

872
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:07.880
It's like, yeah, maybe you
will be obsessed with this game,

873
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:09.280
you want to do that, but
right now, like why why why?

874
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:13.599
Now? It's very wishful. You
can't do anything. You're really banking on

875
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.000
this thing not turning out to be
a disaster. Yeah, but yeah,

876
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:17.679
if it makes people happy and they
have the disposed income, go with God.

877
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.440
Yeah. I mean, can can
you take any ship that you can

878
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:24.280
buy right now into that dog fight
module? Do you know if they're even

879
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:29.599
ships? You can't even do that
with I hope it's the case. I

880
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:34.480
think I think there's like they they
ship comes out and it can go in

881
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:36.880
the hangar, and then after they
do more work on it than it can

882
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:39.960
go fly. I don't know.
I haven't following it too too closely,

883
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:44.440
Okay, because you can't because you're
not in that part of right. Yeah,

884
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:45.480
I think I can go do free
flight. But I was actually,

885
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:52.199
uh, we're reading the manual first. It's it's intense. It is more

886
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:57.920
on the side of hardcore flights.
Sure, but it's like you can dive

887
00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:00.159
that deep if you want to,
Like you can reroute power and all this

888
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:04.880
crazy stuff. Oh yeah, why
are your ship differently? Yea power from

889
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.800
the engines put it into shields exactly. You can also do that with Elite

890
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:13.360
Dangerous, which also just entered beta, if you start messing with that.

891
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:19.199
Uh. Yes, this is this
is like a straight remake right of the

892
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.079
original Elite or is it kind of? I think at this point it's hard

893
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:28.199
to remake that game, but it
isn't being something more because it's it was

894
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:31.039
just so old. But yeah,
yes, it is a space I believe

895
00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:34.800
the original Elite guy is working on
it, right, Okay, yeah,

896
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.360
sure, I think that's the case. I will research before I do the

897
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:42.679
quick look, but yeah, I'm
looking at that one too. Try not

898
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:45.320
to get them confused. Similar type
of game though, right, like kind

899
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:49.480
of sprawling space expiration and trade and
combat and exactly. Guys, we're going

900
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:51.719
to space this year. It's time, like we're all gonna go to space.

901
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:52.639
Yeah, one of these games we're
going to space. Yeah, I

902
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:55.440
think so, I'm into it.
There's there's that stuff. There's no man

903
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:59.920
sky like something has to come out. Let's fucking fly around space and just

904
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:01.920
want to fly around in space forever. Always go back to Eve and we'll

905
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:07.000
play some more. There's so quick
quick did not want to do that.

906
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:10.559
That's like E's eva's like the paper
pushing version of space flight. We just

907
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:14.320
talking about a game where you fucking
rewire the wiring in your space ship.

908
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:16.880
What are you talking about. Eva's
like joining the Space Navy and then getting

909
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:22.679
a desk job, getting stuck behind
a desk pushing a pencil. Watching Dan

910
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:27.119
play World of Warcraft has made me
really want to get into EVE. Yeah,

911
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:30.719
haven't tried before. Yeah, I
mean I've always wanted to get into

912
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:35.199
EVE. I just don't have the
the the inclination to devote the time to

913
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.840
it. I think if I was
on a desert island and I had nothing

914
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:39.880
to do, I would leave.
But I have other things in my life.

915
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:42.559
All Let's be honestly, if you're
on a desert island, you have

916
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.079
internet connectivity, you should get off
the say hey, somebody come give me

917
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:47.440
Sang the boat. And they'd be
like, oh, that's such a weird

918
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:52.039
LARPing thing to do. Too busy, too busy trading all these space rocks.

919
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:57.159
They're being devalued as we speak,
No man's an island. That's how

920
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:00.199
I feel about Donta too, when
I see these people playing and not having

921
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:02.639
fun, but like dedicating their lives
to it instead. Fucking hateful game.

922
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:06.519
Yeah, it's like, oh,
I love to spend like two thousand hours

923
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:07.880
finding out if I like this game
or not. But I don't have two

924
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:13.440
thousand hours. Let me save you
the two thousand hours you don't it keeps

925
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:16.119
playing it. You're literally the biggest
advocate for DODA that I know. That

926
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:19.719
you and Mitchie are the two who
love data so much. Talk to Kessler

927
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.519
about it sometime. I try not
to ask him how friendly a game it

928
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:27.000
is. It's not friendly, but
why do you play it then, because

929
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.559
I have to. Man, let
me introduce you to Pegeltwo. Take you

930
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:34.920
down to Pegeltown. It's like the
exactly the opposite of Doda. Oh man,

931
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:37.719
the anti Dodae Antidota. Oh that's
that's pretty good. I'll give you

932
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.119
that one. You might have stumbled
into that one, but I'll give you

933
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:44.960
credit. That's cool. That's pretty
good. Is a poison and Peto is

934
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.679
the end? Oh boy, well, Drew, I'm I'm excited to see

935
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:51.480
you play Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous. I want to know more about those.

936
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:53.559
Yeah, me too. Space games. They're back, Yes they are.

937
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:58.800
I hope they're not out yet,
but they are coming excellent. I

938
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:02.559
also been playing a little more Hearthstone. Okay that the new thing came out,

939
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:07.880
so curse next rest or something?
Yeah, Iracus, Yeah, next

940
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:15.239
next round, block based expansion.
I get that reference now. Yeah,

941
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:20.920
do you watch one of the Yeah, what what did you do? Gargy

942
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:27.800
thing is water creature? I mixed
those things up. I've not been playing

943
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.719
the new content, but yeah,
seeing that come out made me go like,

944
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:35.480
oh yeah, I love Artstone.
So now I've been waking up and

945
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.800
playing at him a bit nice now
that it's on iPad. I keep thinking

946
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:42.440
about it. Yeah, it's great. I don't know. I got like

947
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:44.599
one match into the tutorial and PC. You know, it's just like this

948
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.000
spot for me. I like the
tutorial. I got one match in the

949
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:51.679
competitive play and got whamped so quickly
that I was like, Okay, this

950
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:53.480
is one of those games. Can't
do it. Get out. I was

951
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:59.679
getting whamped right after the tutorial where
it's like play play the are you talking

952
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:02.079
with the other people or okay?
I was just playing against like you know

953
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:06.840
how you can unlock other characters.
Yeah, so I play against the warrior

954
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:10.119
to unlock him. Nope, not
unlocked the warrior that hates you. Yeah,

955
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:13.079
he's gonna mess you up. So
I skipped him and went to like

956
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:19.400
the uh Shaman, yeah, and
somebody else and beat them. But yeah

957
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:23.119
I can. It's got a really
good, a really gentle first ten percent

958
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:27.480
curve, and then it spikes pretty
quickly after to like but you know,

959
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:30.599
it's because it's like secretly a hardcore
game wrapped in sort of like understandable mechanics,

960
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:34.079
which is right, which is great. Uh I And I think I'm

961
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:36.920
gonna play a little bit more of
it when I get. I really like,

962
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:40.320
I'm very anti iPad games where you
have to be connected to the internet

963
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:45.119
because I am ninety percent of the
time playing an iPad game flying, yeah,

964
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:49.199
like in an airport or like internet, and I love I love tablet

965
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:52.079
games, but like I just can't
play games that are offline, offline forbidden,

966
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:55.320
because like I'm can't com the Internet. I had the same experience with

967
00:53:55.519 --> 00:54:00.079
plunder Knots. Did you try that? No, it's it's from Oh my

968
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:04.559
god, I'm I'm mixing up the
lineage now it's it's still in Job's Crew.

969
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:08.000
They did star Hawk war Hawk.
What were they Lightbox before light Box

970
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.960
Interactive, right, and I think
they rebranded they became a different but they

971
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:14.079
changed their name or whatever. And
I'll move to iOS. But like that

972
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:16.000
seems like a really cool It's like
a it's like a space pirates game.

973
00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:21.800
It's like it's it's in space,
but it's super kind of piratical. You

974
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.800
know, you're practically flying a skull
and crossbones on your spaceship, but it's

975
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:28.440
all about like spaceship combat and loot, you know, like looting stuff and

976
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:30.960
getting better gear for your ship and
everything. But yeah, like it requires

977
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:32.639
an active internet connection. I don't
know I'm saying that that's a bad thing,

978
00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:36.199
but for me personally, like I
just right, it's like, oh

979
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:37.079
yeah, I want to you know, I'd play that game on the bus

980
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:40.039
several days a week if I could, but you can't. So it's kind

981
00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:46.000
of what they got a cramp our
style. They also released they being stone

982
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:54.039
Blade Entertainment released an update to their
Ascension iOS game for the module Rise of

983
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:59.440
Vigil, which is my personal favorite
module for Ascension. The card game mine

984
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:02.639
too. Yeah. It's quite good. Yeah, but they're also still making

985
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:07.119
soul Forge, which is also still
going strong. So I have three three

986
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:13.760
card games. I paid a card
games to be going at once. Yeah,

987
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.559
so I just defaulted Hearthstone. It's
pretty Yeah, it is that I

988
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:22.400
still do like in person Ascension though
quite good. I wonder if they're ever

989
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:28.920
gonna make a physical Heartstone of any
kind that interesting like that seems like idea.

990
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:37.719
Is there anything preventing it from being
physical? Nor someone call there you

991
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:40.239
go, he's got the capabilities.
Indeed. I also played about the first

992
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:45.360
ten minutes of the swapperm. That
game is so good. Yeah, I

993
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:46.400
really want to play more of it. I like the art style of that

994
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:52.119
game a lot. Yeah, it's
so good once you get later on at

995
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:53.639
presenting these puzzles to where you walk
into the room, you look at it

996
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:55.119
and you see like, okay,
there's a red light here. Have you

997
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:59.320
got into the light stuff? Like
this light lets your beam through and everything.

998
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:01.000
You'll look at it and you'll look
at it for like ten minutes and

999
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:05.039
try to wrap your brain around it, and you'll think this is literally impossible,

1000
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:07.280
like this must be a broken puzzle. There's no way this is gonna

1001
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:09.599
work. And you just sit there
and try everything for like thirty forty minutes,

1002
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:13.480
and then you just have that moment, that like aha moment that like

1003
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:15.960
the best puzzle games like Portal and
stuff will give you. It's I have

1004
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:19.440
no idea why people didn't talk about
this game all the time when it came

1005
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:22.360
out, because it is so so
good. It's a really horrible name.

1006
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:27.159
Yeah it fits. That's what you're
doing. You're doing swaps between your guys

1007
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:29.800
there. I found I found it
kind of intriguing the first time I heard

1008
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:31.480
it, the swapper. Yeah,
it was like, what what are you

1009
00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:37.480
swapping? I want to know more
that the question piqued your interest yeah,

1010
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:39.800
uh, the regardless. I like
it. Yeah, I want to play

1011
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:43.519
more. Maybe I'll play that.
I'm a great looking game. Yeah.

1012
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.480
Is it on Beating now? It's
coming out on is it too? That's

1013
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:52.400
that's this week this today. I'm
literally every time we say something I am,

1014
00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:53.960
I'm googling it on my phone and
be like, can I talk about

1015
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:58.880
this? Does it exist? And
you place your clones with the touched thing

1016
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:01.440
on the Vita? I don't know, it seems like that'd be a nice

1017
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:06.679
utilization of that hardware. We use
joysticks? Well, yeah, I was

1018
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:08.159
playing with a mouse and keyboard,
right, Okay, so ye see the

1019
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:13.039
mouse, So yeah, I could
see the sticks working. Well, I'll

1020
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:15.199
probably go through it again on pis
four. Actually, I want to play

1021
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:20.880
it again. Cool, Daniel,
Yes, what are you playing right now?

1022
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:25.960
I played an awful lot of Last
of Us this weekend? Ye oh,

1023
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:30.039
yes, how'd you like it?
Still an incredible game, Still one

1024
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:32.000
of the best games I've ever played. Still still trucking with the single player.

1025
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:36.639
I'm doing a single player, but
most of my time I was I

1026
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:39.119
was streaming with my sister until like
five in the morning, playing multiplayer,

1027
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:45.440
and it was incredible. It's so
good. I've never even tried the multiplayer

1028
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:49.559
before before this weekend, or before
we did our quick yeah you and I

1029
00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:52.679
basically had our first real experience with
the multiplayer in that quick look Yeah,

1030
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:53.920
and watching you play it, it
was like, Okay, I really need

1031
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:57.880
to give this a shot. This
actually looks super different than like the standard

1032
00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:00.920
multiplayer shooter, and yeah, I
expect it to maybe stream for like an

1033
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:02.119
hour or two and give it a
shot or whatever at home. And then

1034
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:06.880
my sister hopped on. We wound
up playing and getting on Twitch for a

1035
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:09.400
while, and god damn, it's
so much fun. It's supertense. It

1036
00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:14.079
gets that kind of tense like almost
like stealth elements down that like something like

1037
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:15.679
Call of Duty with a quick responds
and everything you don't really get right.

1038
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:17.719
I mean, you know, it's
third person, but it turns the it

1039
00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:21.519
turns the kind of really fast paced
running gun action of something like Gears on

1040
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:23.559
its head, because like you spawn
with your default load out with like seven

1041
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:27.039
rounds and you're going, yeah,
that's it. Yeah, which you know,

1042
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:30.000
I like Gears, but I was
never too huge into it. I'm

1043
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:32.800
not big into the third person multiplayer, but I mean this nails it right,

1044
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:36.840
like like there's no like you don't
have a side arm with a limited

1045
00:58:36.880 --> 00:58:39.239
AMMO or anything like between your two
guns you maybe have fifteen shots. Like

1046
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:43.159
yeah, you've got to go around
and scrounge for like the same type of

1047
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.679
crafting. I mean, basically what
I like about it is if they they

1048
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:50.400
find a way to graft all the
like the really like the scarcity of the

1049
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:53.079
single player stuff, the survival elements
into multiplayer in a way that fits even

1050
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:58.880
though you're still bound by some of
those crazy kind of restrictions. You know,

1051
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:00.639
it's like, oh, I have
to find leads and alcohol and rags

1052
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:04.960
and find a corner where nobody can
see me and craft the stuff because I

1053
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:07.599
didn't spawn with a Molotov cocktail or
whatever. You know, maybe I should,

1054
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:09.440
maybe I should boot into and play
some multiplayer because I played the hell

1055
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:13.199
out of it on PS three,
and I legitimately like i've I've seen it

1056
00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:15.199
in the office and I've played a
little bit in the office to like see

1057
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:16.679
how good it looks, and it's
amazing, And if you have a PS

1058
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:19.880
four and you haven't played it,
you should definitely buy it. I couldn't

1059
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:22.039
bring myself to go back and play
it again, because I don't think like

1060
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:23.639
I can go on that emotional journey
again, Like I think it'll be too

1061
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:28.079
intense for me with the limited time
I have right now. But the multiplayers

1062
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.360
something I didn't dig into a ton
on PS three, and maybe I should

1063
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:31.800
go in and play because I love
the mechanics of that game. I could

1064
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:35.199
actually like, I love the way
that it plays. Yeah, did you

1065
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.280
that could be a good way to
do that? Did you do Left Behind

1066
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:38.400
on PS three? Oh? Yeah, okay, see I hadn't done that

1067
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:40.800
before, so that's I'm totally new
to that. I think I'm a couple

1068
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:44.039
hours into it, which I hear
it's only like three hours long, so

1069
00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:46.599
probably getting close to the end of
that, and super impressed by that.

1070
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:52.760
Like I ignore a lot of dealc
stuff usually that's really story heavy because there's

1071
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:54.639
not a lot of video game lore
that I really give a shit about outside

1072
00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:59.400
of like metal gear and stuff.
But the Last of Us story is this

1073
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:02.320
great, and so I really have
liked, you know, seeing you know,

1074
01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:07.280
at least pass with Riley and everything, so remastered is is worth it,

1075
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:09.159
even as someone that you know,
I played the hell out of the

1076
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:12.639
original ones. So yeah, yeah, you know, if you're into the

1077
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:14.920
multiplayer, all the extra maps are
in there and stuff, you know,

1078
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.000
like it's it's kind of all the
content there is for that game yea in

1079
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:20.920
one package. So it's it's a
pretty awesome. Yeah, and it's doing.

1080
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:22.119
People seem really excited about it.
People seem super into it. So

1081
01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:25.119
I'm I'm glad that there's another not
a Dog game out there for able to

1082
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:30.440
play. It's awesome. Ye So
yeah, that was the main game I

1083
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:34.719
played. Other than that, I
just read some books and watched Guardians with

1084
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:37.199
the Galaxy. Yeah that's good.
Everybody else see then, Yeah, it's

1085
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:40.360
real good. I saw it two
weeks ago. Disney showed up some people

1086
01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:44.679
up here and then I saw it
as yeah, oh I missed that.

1087
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:47.800
That theaters weird. I was still
in Seattle when it come back. Went

1088
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:51.519
down, but should have come back. Like I looked at the invite.

1089
01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:53.480
It was this was for like a
press event. They were showing Infinity I

1090
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:59.039
think, yeah as well, but
they were announcing their comic cons. It

1091
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:00.639
was. It was a kind of
a press thing. But I've been to

1092
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:02.360
that Dolby location. It was just
called Dolby Labs. Yeah, it's like

1093
01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:05.639
a Dolby screening labs. Like I
haven't been there in years, but it's

1094
01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:08.000
like a it's like a just like
a part like part Delby Museum, and

1095
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:10.519
like, yeah, it hasn't changed
in years. Yeah, it's like kind

1096
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:13.760
of old. And for some reason, like the pre show they had,

1097
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:16.159
they gave Vin Yaki, who was
texting hello by the way, uh he,

1098
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:20.519
they gave him a microphone and literally
it sounded like he was piping him

1099
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:22.880
out of like a single mono speaker
under the stage. It was super garbly

1100
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:27.199
and I was like, isn't this
the fucking Dolby. And so the movie

1101
01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:29.639
started and I was like, if
this movie sounds like it's coming out of

1102
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:31.840
laptop speakers, I would be super
happy. But then I was super loud

1103
01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:34.880
and defending it was great. How
big was the theater though, Like I

1104
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:39.320
can't imagine that forty people? It
was a little and I really wanted the

1105
01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:42.280
only thing they would have made it
better, and then I and then I

1106
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.760
got a rocket raccoon figuring afterwards.
But the only thing I would have made

1107
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:47.360
it better is if we could have
had at any sort of snacks inside,

1108
01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:51.239
but we could not, so I
was a little like I watched garden Zi

1109
01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:53.880
Galax this weekend with some popcorn and
a soda, and I was like in

1110
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:57.679
movie heaven and watching at that time. I really appreciated it and I had

1111
01:01:57.679 --> 01:01:59.719
a good time the entire time through. But I was like, really hungry.

1112
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:00.679
You were there to watch a film? What were the seats like?

1113
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:07.519
Fine? Okay, yeah, I
mean like fix not rolling shows. They

1114
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:09.960
were boys, they were not I
wanted a couch experience would have probably,

1115
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:14.159
honestly, I've been I've been away
for a long time with them with no

1116
01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:17.599
snacks. I saw the only movie
I ever seen like that was Spider Man

1117
01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:21.679
three, which everybody hates, so
it's like whatever, but I saw it

1118
01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:25.119
at uh At. So many pictures
in there, like Executive Screening Room,

1119
01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:30.360
which is again like thirty forty seats, and you feel like somebody when you're

1120
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:32.960
in that thing, you know.
Yeah, it's like important people see movies

1121
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.679
in here. This is where like
a small number of VIPs come to the

1122
01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:39.800
upstairs of the Kabuk. They're not
watching a movie, they are screening it.

1123
01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:44.440
Yes, so that movie is really
good. Yeah, people should go

1124
01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:47.199
see it. Yeah, that's fun, really well cast. Everyone put the

1125
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:51.599
roles really well. So I hear
Vin Diesel is the Tree. He's the

1126
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:54.760
Tree. He's pretty great. Now. Dave Bautista is uh drags, the

1127
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:59.320
destroyer and as crappy of an actor
as he can be in wrestling. He

1128
01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:02.400
was really good that role and he
was maybe my favorite k fantastic. No,

1129
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:07.719
he's the guy. He's the big
muscular guy of the Guardian. Really

1130
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:14.000
the non human that's a professional wrestler
champion. Oh he is, he's not

1131
01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:16.559
no longer as he came back.
Is he making a Dwayne the Rock Johnson

1132
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:21.360
the like transition. Well, he's
trying to the world. I mean this

1133
01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:24.000
this role will probably be like the
his like I mean, it's probably the

1134
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:27.320
biggest role he has. I mean, and he'll be in sequels and if

1135
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:30.000
they're ever in the Avengers stuff or
whatever. Yeah, he doesn't really do

1136
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:32.760
that much in the movie Caught Like. He's not like some crazy overpowered like,

1137
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:37.119
he doesn't have superpowers. He's just
like a melee combat kind of guy.

1138
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:39.920
But he delivers some of the most
deadpan like. One of the things

1139
01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:44.840
about his like race is that they
basically don't understand nuanced idioms or subtext,

1140
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:46.599
so he just responds to a lot
of things to like that will knock over

1141
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:49.719
my head. I will catch it
and they're like, no, that's not

1142
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:52.039
over your head, Like the joke
is over. He's don't worry about it.

1143
01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:54.320
There's a lot of a lot of
banter with Dave Batista. Yeah,

1144
01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:57.039
or maybe that's just how he is. I don't know. It could have

1145
01:03:57.079 --> 01:03:58.960
been all ad libbed. He might
just not have gotten the joke. He's

1146
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:02.800
a big dumb guy. That's what
I've been flying. Yeah, so there's

1147
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:06.119
that. Yeah, good movie.
Well great. I'm not a big comic

1148
01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:09.880
book guy. I'd never heard of
those characters before, like the trailers and

1149
01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:12.960
the casting started, but man,
I went in not knowing much, and

1150
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:15.519
I really liked everything about it.
It's the first summer movie that I've really

1151
01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:17.880
enjoyed. There haven't been a lot
of great, big movies this summer.

1152
01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:21.320
It gets crazy now. Ninja Charles
is next week. Dona A Plan of

1153
01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:24.079
the Age. I did see that. That was pretty good. That was

1154
01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:27.599
real good. That was so serious. I mean, like like explosion movies.

1155
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:30.920
Why, I like, it's so
serious, But it's about angry monkeys.

1156
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:32.480
That's what's so awesome about those movies. Yeah, you're not wrong?

1157
01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:36.679
Is it very straight faced? That's
all I got? All right? I

1158
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:41.039
called Zodiac, motherfucker? What on
the phone? Why would you do that?

1159
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:44.079
Wait? He has a phone.
He tweeted his phone number and he

1160
01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:46.039
said he was taking calls, and
I called him. Was he streaming the

1161
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:49.079
calls? Uh? No, I
think Jeff was teld me he just gets

1162
01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:51.519
burners or whatever and occasionally like tweets. Is fine, ever, said,

1163
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:56.400
I guess Ryan apparently called him.
Yeah? Yeah, so does he speak

1164
01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:59.920
in all caps? Uh? He
seems to be that guy. I mean,

1165
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:01.960
I mean, he said he was
very drunk. He sounded pretty drunk.

1166
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:06.079
And we talked about how is okay, no accent. We talked about

1167
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:10.800
how both of our dads are postal
service guys okay, and we talked about

1168
01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:14.840
how cool Jack Bower is. And
it was a very pleasant conversation with Zodiac.

1169
01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:18.320
Motherfucker. Yeah, that's super weird. He didn't believe it was me

1170
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:21.760
at first. He listens to the
podcast then yeah, and then I think

1171
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:25.199
he realized it was me. Is
he in the Bay Area? Is that

1172
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:27.960
confirmed? I think he's in Detroit
or something. Okay, Yeah, yeah,

1173
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:30.480
but I would say you should just
hang out with him. I bet

1174
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:31.519
we'd get along. I would watch
hang out. He got mad at me

1175
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:34.400
about my terminator opinions with Outside of
that, I think we would get along.

1176
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:40.159
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
prefer to live and let live as

1177
01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:44.199
far as terminator preferences go. I'm
not going to condemn you, thanks,

1178
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:48.159
Brad. I'm not gonna respect you
either, condem yeah, sure, all

1179
01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:55.239
right, Well brad Man, I
don't know he's been playing, Bradda,

1180
01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:59.119
have you been playing? Bring it
up? It's not just that? Is

1181
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:02.599
it not just that that we had
our our entrance into the creation? Yes,

1182
01:06:02.840 --> 01:06:05.079
you know about it. I watched
the stream. Oh that's right,

1183
01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:10.480
Yeah, you tuned in for I
watched you playing mediocre Doda. Oh come

1184
01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:13.199
on, I mean, I can't
tell. I just I saw people clicking

1185
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:16.119
around. We went clicking on things
and getting their right clicks on, and

1186
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:19.239
we went to a third game talking
about the right click of this character,

1187
01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:21.360
and I'm like, guys, this
is doors we went. We went to

1188
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:24.519
a third game. Yeah, I
saw you tweet We're going to a third

1189
01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:27.480
game and off caps. Yeah,
because we were. We were coming off

1190
01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:30.440
of a seventy minute game that ended
in a bass race that came down to

1191
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:34.719
a margin about twenty seconds. Wow, so that's dota. Imagine putting seventy

1192
01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:39.159
minutes of your life into something and
having it all decided by like one possible

1193
01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:42.360
misclick. Yeah, wow that sounds
Did you win? It's incredible? Yes

1194
01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:44.360
we won that? Wow? Oh
great, Then it must have been really

1195
01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:47.079
rewarding. It kind of was.
Did you feel like everything was for nothing

1196
01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:49.039
except for that last click? It
was, but we were already down a

1197
01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:54.000
game and the best out of three, so if that game going south,

1198
01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:56.840
that would have been it. So
we're fighting for our lives, you know,

1199
01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:59.519
and then and then having it be
that close, like I had wides

1200
01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:00.679
to stay, end up, walk
around the house for like ten minutes,

1201
01:07:01.280 --> 01:07:04.119
get a drink of water. I
thought I was gonna throw up, like

1202
01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:09.199
I sincerely, I thought I was
going to vomit. Do you ever catch

1203
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:11.960
us? Do you ever catch yourself
in the mirror in that state and just

1204
01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:15.280
think about it? What's never?
It's never. It's never like that when

1205
01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:17.239
you're just playing pub games like with
friends or whatever. It's like, how

1206
01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:19.280
we lose the game? Whatever?
It kind of you said that pressure of

1207
01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:23.679
like at least a thousand people they
were watch a lot of people watch in

1208
01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:26.920
the tournament. And then let's also
like we're fighting for our reputations are on

1209
01:07:26.960 --> 01:07:30.519
the line to some extent, Who
are you who are you playing against in

1210
01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:33.480
this? They were all they were
all up a team from Square Nex Montreal

1211
01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:38.159
who seemed to have played quite a
lot of DODA because get back to work,

1212
01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:41.440
because they were rotating and smoke ganking
and running an aggressive trialane like they

1213
01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:43.559
knew what they were like you're saying
there, they played a lot of door

1214
01:07:43.639 --> 01:07:46.480
together. They clearly have played quite
a bit, whereas you guys are like

1215
01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:50.719
a hot we play together here and
there. And also we did not practice

1216
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:55.239
at all for this thing. Practice, man, but it is double elimination.

1217
01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:57.960
Oh we're now, and we're down
to the lower brackets. From what

1218
01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:00.280
I heard about the record, but
the the international that doesn't keep you out

1219
01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:02.480
of things at all. Sometimes when
the lower bracket come all the way back,

1220
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:05.679
Oh yeah, which strikes me as
not how most sports I think we're

1221
01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:08.840
well, you know, it's you
know, most sports don't have a loser's

1222
01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:11.639
bracket where you can come back at
the top. For professional sports, yeah,

1223
01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:15.519
you know, only the good ones
lay sports. I understand every park

1224
01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:17.960
tournament, I ever went to head
double elimination. I can't believe you countered

1225
01:08:18.039 --> 01:08:21.279
me saying most professional sports don't have
is with the pog tournament. I went

1226
01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:25.079
to head double elimination. I was
trying to think of what reminded me of

1227
01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:30.720
double elimination tournaments. Doda's back in
poc form. Yeah, okay, all

1228
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:39.000
right, I played POGs. I
don't remember there being enough structure to have

1229
01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:42.279
a tournament of it. Yeah,
Like like trading card places would always have

1230
01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:45.399
tournaments and stuff. There's always the
I forgot what they would call the surface.

1231
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:47.279
There's always some plastic thing with a
wizard with an eight ball or something.

1232
01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:49.960
And then you put the one guy
brings his poks, the other guy

1233
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:53.199
brings his pocs, you put him
in the pile. I think it's the

1234
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:56.039
same amount of POGs, like fifteen
and fifteen. But what's the problem,

1235
01:08:56.119 --> 01:09:00.520
John, image? Is there something
you'd like to share? Pass image of

1236
01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:03.960
Dan record show to a magic tournament
with pugs and just like slamming magic decks

1237
01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:06.359
over and over again. Let's have
people be like, that's not what we're

1238
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:10.039
doing. I'm not a dork.
I didn't go to magic tournaments. I

1239
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:15.800
went to pog tournaments, John's Power
Rangers POGs, My Wrestler POGs. Wizard

1240
01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:18.479
in an eight ball, by the
way, is exactly what would be on

1241
01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:23.000
a slammer. Yeah, yeah,
And I had a really cool slammer that

1242
01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:26.439
I had a rubber backside that smells
like bubblegum. And hang on, can

1243
01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:30.000
you mix POGs? Could you like
play wrestler POGs against Power Ranger puss.

1244
01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:33.039
You don't have your POGs, don't
have to stay injurniverse park POGs. Oh

1245
01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:36.279
yeah, there's no continuity. There
were the happy meals that came with Power

1246
01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:39.720
Ranger POGs, which was just the
best thing. And so I had all

1247
01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:43.159
those fucking cardboard like, I don't
have a I don't have a fucking clue

1248
01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:45.840
how you play? Don't us at
place we should last some pos? Yeah,

1249
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:47.840
I'll bring my POGs. I don't
play POGs with you. For the

1250
01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:53.479
uninitiated, how do you actually plays
the way you do POGs is? Yeah,

1251
01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:56.159
so I bring my fifteen POGs or
whatever. You bring your fifteen fifteen

1252
01:09:56.159 --> 01:09:58.279
am down on the dumb thing with
a wizard. And these are, to

1253
01:09:58.319 --> 01:10:01.399
be clear, about a one inch
a little one diameter cap, but they're

1254
01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:04.640
they're the actual POGs themselves are like
thick cardboard, right, yeah, they

1255
01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:08.039
are. And so they'll have something
on the front and it's almost like like

1256
01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:10.119
a baseball card. There's like an
image on the front with like maybe like

1257
01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:13.520
stats of some comic character or some
horshit on the back, and they're slammers.

1258
01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:15.960
So i'd have my slammer, you'd
have your you get your fifteen paper

1259
01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:18.039
discs fifteen. I mean, I'm
just as sure it can be any and

1260
01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:23.600
then maybe and then you're you're you're
you're slammer, which is made out of

1261
01:10:23.640 --> 01:10:26.920
something more dense. Yeah. Mine
was like hard plastic with like rubber back,

1262
01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:29.920
with like little divots for your fingers
something. You could really hurt somebody

1263
01:10:29.960 --> 01:10:30.760
with it. That sounds like,
oh yeah, that sounds like a prograde

1264
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:35.239
slammer. It was a good slammer. Yeah, not regulated right, well

1265
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:41.039
yeah, maybe when you get straight
out of the carbon fiber. Yeah,

1266
01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:44.079
industrial design of Some people had metal
slammers, I remember, And then you

1267
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:46.960
would have to have slam it onto
the stack because they would all be stacked

1268
01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:50.159
facing up and you'd slam it on. And so some people would go like

1269
01:10:50.199 --> 01:10:54.159
straightforward and try to hit it like
at a certain angle. Some would turn

1270
01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:58.319
their slammer sideways and throw it down
that way, and whatever one's flipped up

1271
01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:00.680
or flipped over, right, you
get to keep those. And they actually

1272
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:03.840
they banded at a lot of schools
because they considered a form of gambla.

1273
01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:06.760
His kids would bring him and play
for keeps. Yeah, you lose the

1274
01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:09.720
ones that you lose. Yeah yeah, I mean that's if you were a

1275
01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:12.000
serious the way the way the game, the game just works out, like

1276
01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:15.000
whoever collects them wins, but Marble, but in the in the meta game,

1277
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:16.199
like you would just keep the ones
you actually won, right right right,

1278
01:11:16.239 --> 01:11:17.960
these are mine. Now, get
out of my get out my playground.

1279
01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:20.840
Yeah. And then the kids had
hundreds of the like they had remember

1280
01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:26.960
kids bring tubes as long as their
legs yea to school? Yeah, I

1281
01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:29.479
mean, Zuka, if you ran
low on POGs, you just go out

1282
01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:32.399
and buy more. Yeah yeah yeah, pieces of cardboard. Yeah, I

1283
01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:36.119
can't imagine. They were they were
sexually pricey. No, they were a

1284
01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:42.279
huge fad, so like they could
charge. And there was Trove TV that

1285
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:45.399
was the other one I've never heard
of that. I had a lot of

1286
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:51.439
Trove too. Were they compatible?
Yeah, they're just fucking cardboard. No

1287
01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:56.560
reverence for the sports that you didn't
want. The name originates from Pog,

1288
01:11:56.720 --> 01:12:00.760
a brand of juice made from passion
fruit, orange and guava. The use

1289
01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:04.319
of pod bollock has to play the
game predated the game's commercialization. It actually

1290
01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:10.800
originated in Hawaii in the nineteen twenties
or thirties, and possibly comes from Menko,

1291
01:12:10.840 --> 01:12:13.319
a Japanese car game very similar to
Pugs, which has been in existence

1292
01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:16.079
since the seventeenth century. This brought
to you by the Pog Minute, uh,

1293
01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:19.000
sponsored by Wikipedia. All right,
so Dans, so we got we

1294
01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:23.520
got hang on to the plan,
John Drake's Pizza A Minute for scandals,

1295
01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:26.239
bathroom a minute? Yep, Dan
records Pog Minute. Yeah, yeah,

1296
01:12:26.600 --> 01:12:30.399
I like pog corner. Yeah,
if I can, if I can come

1297
01:12:30.439 --> 01:12:33.000
up with a thing, we're gonna
have like four whole minutes of content the

1298
01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:36.079
Doda hour every week. Okay,
there you go. Yeah, so you

1299
01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:41.760
were playing Doda, yes, and
you lost this tournament. We're in the

1300
01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:44.479
lower bracket and this is how long
does this tournament go on for? Another

1301
01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:46.000
week? Is it all weekend days? It's probably gonna take at least a

1302
01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:49.520
month. Okay, so it's a
video game, have fun getting to hear

1303
01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:53.439
about it. I was surprised though, like I didn't actually know that many

1304
01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:56.000
people who were in the tournament,
Like I thought to be more personalized that

1305
01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:59.880
I've crossed. I knew you guys. But yeah, once we opened up

1306
01:12:59.880 --> 01:13:01.039
some ups, and you know Kessler's
on our team, right, Yeah,

1307
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:03.159
well, I mean, yeah,
you should ask him about it. I

1308
01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:05.279
know he's I know he's affiliated with
your team, but I assume he just

1309
01:13:05.319 --> 01:13:08.680
sits in the base and yells things
about fruit. It was a fun time.

1310
01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:11.199
Yeah. Yeah. Once they opened
up sign ups, like who,

1311
01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:13.640
a bunch of people came out of
the woodwork from different companies that we didn't

1312
01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:15.439
have any idea played Doda. I'm
psyched for that. That's a weird game.

1313
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:19.079
It's it's like I was meeting,
like I met a couple of producers

1314
01:13:19.119 --> 01:13:21.680
on different games at E three that
came up to me and they were like,

1315
01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:25.479
hey, you know, senior stream, I also love Doda. We

1316
01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:29.439
should play something like Magic the Gathering
or Dungeons and Dragons where it's like,

1317
01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:32.960
oh, when you know that that, when people know that you are part

1318
01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:35.960
of their thing, they can come
up to you and not be afraid of

1319
01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:40.560
saying Doda. If you were single
and you met a girl at a bar

1320
01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:43.720
who you were like, let's say
marshallly attracted to, and you find actually

1321
01:13:43.720 --> 01:13:45.239
played Deata too, would you propose
her on the spot? No, you

1322
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:47.720
know you don't think so, like
that wouldn't be your life bond that you'd

1323
01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:50.279
be like, we are clearly compatible
because we both love this game play.

1324
01:13:50.439 --> 01:13:53.600
But I'd say, what's your position? Are you or like a two?

1325
01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:58.359
That's such an intimate question to ask. Is a pickup line? Yeah?

1326
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:00.359
Yeah, she told me. If
she told me she was a one good

1327
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.760
game, we'd have to No one
gets this joke, but you so,

1328
01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:08.159
I hope you're enjoying it. Yeah, okay, uh yeah, it's you

1329
01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:12.039
know, it's it's it's immediate.
It's immediate and unending conversation topic at that

1330
01:14:12.079 --> 01:14:15.039
point, because you could talk about
Doda for years and never run out of

1331
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:16.760
the thing. So you're saying it's
good hogs of our time. Yes,

1332
01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:23.279
okay, exact it is exactly as
complicated as POGs. I am going to

1333
01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:26.479
show up at the next international with
Doda POGs okay and just be like,

1334
01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:28.600
Yeah, I'm here to play Dota. I don't know how it hasn't happened

1335
01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:30.680
already. People sit down and be
like, we're playing Doda. I'll bring

1336
01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:32.479
these POGs out and they're like,
what, I don't need a computer,

1337
01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:35.960
don't you understand? With like icy
Frog and we've invented this game. He

1338
01:14:36.119 --> 01:14:40.880
was playing with POGs, Like bullshit, it's like analog Doda. Yeah,

1339
01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:44.279
icy Frog? Right, Freezy Frog? No, Freezy frogs? What you

1340
01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:47.560
call him? Goddamnit? Ice Frog? Ice Frog? Yes. And then

1341
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:50.359
I also have been playing a bunch
of Rogue Legacy, okay, even though

1342
01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:54.920
I got like halfway through it last
year. Uh, and like I wanted

1343
01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:57.279
to finish it, I just got
sidetracked and and it seemed like a good

1344
01:14:57.279 --> 01:15:00.399
excuse to get back in. I
want to say, for anybody you're listening

1345
01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:02.119
to this, who was making a
cross save compatible game, Uh huh,

1346
01:15:02.279 --> 01:15:05.000
look at Rogue Legacy. Yeah,
it's pretty great. Like it actually works

1347
01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:10.199
yep, like should like I feel
like I feel like that stuff could have

1348
01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:12.760
been a lot more standardized by now
than it has been, like some games

1349
01:15:13.399 --> 01:15:15.920
make it like so the reason this
one is so good is that every time

1350
01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:18.359
you fire the game up on a
new platform, like again, a system

1351
01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:21.000
you haven't played it on before.
Like the very first thing you see the

1352
01:15:21.039 --> 01:15:25.119
second you start the game is like, hey, you're saved on the system

1353
01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:27.039
and is blah blah blah. It's
like it's not as old as the one

1354
01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:28.840
in the cloud. Do you want
to just pull down the cloud one?

1355
01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:31.039
And you hit yes and it immediately
loads in your game from the cloud,

1356
01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:34.560
like no having to like hunt through
options menus and find like a sync option

1357
01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:38.760
or something like that. It's just
like very in your face getting your progress

1358
01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:41.760
up to date. Like I've been
playing it on two different PS fours and

1359
01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:44.920
a Vita and it's sync by progress
perfectly every time. And I think that

1360
01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:46.319
most people the use case is probably
a PS four and Vita, right,

1361
01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:49.079
Like I think you and I are
in like the rarefied era of like I

1362
01:15:49.159 --> 01:15:53.479
have a PS four and my girlfriends
apartment in my office and in my apartment,

1363
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:55.800
and I have two Vitas that are
in my office, and and like

1364
01:15:56.359 --> 01:15:58.800
the idea of like I need cross
save to work on these five devices,

1365
01:15:58.800 --> 01:16:00.880
like most developers are probably coming.
I can be like yo, sure,

1366
01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:03.199
but yeah, but the idea of
being on a poppet, you know,

1367
01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:06.319
right out of your right outo your
Vita as you're leaving the house. Totally.

1368
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:09.199
I mean, that's you know,
that's the one The one thing you

1369
01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:12.079
have to keep in mind is that
unless I guess this would work over three

1370
01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:14.840
G if God forbid, you have
a three G VTA. But otherwise you

1371
01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:17.199
have to remember to think you're saved, God forbid what like, It's like

1372
01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:21.279
it's some sort of crossed to bear
to have, I mean, connectivity on

1373
01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:27.520
your device. It's a great feature. There's a reason there's people. There's

1374
01:16:27.560 --> 01:16:30.760
a reason. There's a reason all
those discounted bundles they were pushing were three

1375
01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:32.520
G models. I can't find a
Vita bundle. I had to steal one

1376
01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:34.760
from the eye. No, I
think they all sold through. But but

1377
01:16:35.239 --> 01:16:39.239
yeah, yeah, when they did
that, when that Walking Dead bundle came

1378
01:16:39.239 --> 01:16:41.439
out for a big discount or whatever, they were all three G models.

1379
01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:44.600
That's nobody bought those things. But
point being, you know, you have

1380
01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:46.359
to remember before you walk out,
like if you didn't be if you didn't

1381
01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:48.520
save, or if you didn't think
you're saved, and you were like on

1382
01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:51.159
the bus and you're like, oh
shit, all my progress from last night

1383
01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:55.079
didn't cary over because I forgot,
but it's actually funny that you can use

1384
01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:58.239
the cross save to circumvent not having
cloud saves, Like, I mean,

1385
01:16:58.239 --> 01:17:01.079
you should have PlayStation Plus anyway,
because it's pretty awesome, but it's worth

1386
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:04.000
the money if you didn't. For
some reason, I think crossa has worked

1387
01:17:04.039 --> 01:17:08.600
without it. I have, and
you can seek saves between multiple PS fours

1388
01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:10.720
with the cross ave things. I
would never know if it worked with that

1389
01:17:10.840 --> 01:17:13.359
because I can't imagine a world where
I didn't have play Station Plus. We're

1390
01:17:13.399 --> 01:17:15.199
a great feature. You should definitely
go spend money on right now play Sation

1391
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:17.800
Network Store. Yeah, it's actually
pretty that's the shill in me, man,

1392
01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:19.720
I don't. I also just don't
know the answer to the questions.

1393
01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:24.760
Also, this is kind of nitpiggy, but I don't think Rogue Legacy looks

1394
01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:27.720
as good as it should on the
Vita. There's some weird scaling going on

1395
01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:30.319
with some of the sprites and the
text and stuff, where things look like

1396
01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:32.840
chunkier than they should in some spots
or some of the text like kind of

1397
01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:36.399
it's it's hard to explain. I
don't really it's not Alias exactly, it's

1398
01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:40.159
just things don't look scaled right for
that screen. I have not seen that

1399
01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:42.840
where it doesn't look as sharp and
as nice as it does on the TV.

1400
01:17:43.159 --> 01:17:46.359
But well, that, well that
part's probably category true because well it's

1401
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:49.000
a different you're saying, it's in
a way that looks like it's it's not

1402
01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:53.039
like an optimization issues like something's wrong, something is, something's a little offen.

1403
01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:56.000
I haven't experienced that, but I
believe, but it's it's it's by

1404
01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:58.920
no means a reason not to play
it on the Vita. Go play games

1405
01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:01.920
because it plays well. It's good
video games platform. It's a good video

1406
01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:05.880
game or whatever platform specifically sounding.
We're all about peace, love and video

1407
01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:09.079
games. And here maybe I guess
turn on those lava lamps. Man,

1408
01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:11.199
let's do this. Oh yeah,
how do we not have this lava lamps

1409
01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:14.199
on it? It's not nearly hot
on how we got this far with them

1410
01:18:14.199 --> 01:18:16.520
our lamps on? They are fully
powered up. Yes, okay, by

1411
01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:19.159
the time we end they may be
bubbling. All right, Great, that

1412
01:18:19.159 --> 01:18:23.199
means we can talk about the news. Is there any news? There is

1413
01:18:23.239 --> 01:18:26.319
news this week? A lot of
it is sony oriented, So I'm shit

1414
01:18:26.479 --> 01:18:30.399
can't wait to hear how sidestep that
I can't wait to hear exactly how glib

1415
01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:33.079
you are about these topics. Uh, but we'll get to that stuff.

1416
01:18:33.239 --> 01:18:38.039
Yeah, all right. To my
mind, the biggest story of the week

1417
01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:42.640
was EA access. Uh huh yes, Uh, so EA is rolling out.

1418
01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:45.279
If you guys didn't see the story, he is basically rolling out,

1419
01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:47.560
Like I mean, it's very rudimentary. But the comparison being flung around is

1420
01:18:47.720 --> 01:18:53.079
sort of a Netflix style subscription service
for EA games. Yeah. I think

1421
01:18:53.079 --> 01:18:57.560
that's probably an over in concept simplification. It's it's it is a it's it's

1422
01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:00.359
a it's not all a card.
It's just you know, flat monthly and

1423
01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:02.600
then hey, you get access to
these games. But to start, it's

1424
01:19:02.600 --> 01:19:09.119
only four games. It's a few
from fourteen Peckel two. Two games already

1425
01:19:09.279 --> 01:19:13.079
worth It's worth like five games though, right A fef of fourteen Peckel two,

1426
01:19:13.159 --> 01:19:17.319
Madden twenty five and Battlefield four are
the first games only on Xbox One

1427
01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:20.039
at the moment, and it has
not rolled out yet. I think they're

1428
01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:24.079
just now announcing it. Yeah,
I assume they were announced at Games Got

1429
01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:25.800
my surprise, dy annouced so early. Yeah, I don't know if it

1430
01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:27.520
was about the leak or something,
and they're just like, hey, we

1431
01:19:27.520 --> 01:19:30.600
gotta get this out there. Looks
like so it is, Uh, it's

1432
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:36.319
four ninety nine a month, and
you also get subscribers. Early subscribers also

1433
01:19:36.359 --> 01:19:41.359
receive a ten percent discount on any
end all quote unquote e A digital content.

1434
01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:44.079
Yeah, on the Xbox One.
It's pretty cool, which shadow that.

1435
01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:45.800
Yeah, Yeah, you know,
I guess if you were if you

1436
01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:46.760
buy a lot of if you're buying
a lot of EA games, like they

1437
01:19:46.760 --> 01:19:48.720
may pay for it. Yeah,
it would, it would come close.

1438
01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:53.720
I guess. I don't know.
It's like, it's great that somebody's trying

1439
01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:57.800
this, like the terms of this
specific implementation or maybe a little iffy.

1440
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:01.520
Yeah, to the point that Sony
basically came out and said, yeah,

1441
01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:04.239
we didn't think it was good enough
to have on our platform. I believe

1442
01:20:04.279 --> 01:20:08.720
this statement was that the value of
the consumer is not We evaluated the EAAXO

1443
01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:13.079
subscription offering and decided that it does
not bring the kind of value PlayStation customers

1444
01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:15.079
have come to expect. Yes,
I did not issue that statement, or

1445
01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:19.279
you're doing it. I just remember
reading it on the website. We don't.

1446
01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:23.199
Yeah, they talk about you know, PlayStation Plus memberships are up more

1447
01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:27.039
than two since launch PS four blah
blah blah. We don't think asking our

1448
01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:30.560
fans to pay an additional five dollars
a month for the EA specific program represents

1449
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:33.039
good value. So, you know, terms of that stuff being, it's

1450
01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:38.560
still being hashed out and hopefully that
offering will improve, because like, I

1451
01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:41.239
don't know, are they saying this
is a trial run for these four games,

1452
01:20:41.279 --> 01:20:45.199
like this is a beta and they're
going to expand it wider or so.

1453
01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:47.119
Actually I had missed this part,
but yeah, it says that apparently

1454
01:20:47.119 --> 01:20:51.760
they rolled out a beta version to
a quote small number of Xbox one owners

1455
01:20:51.800 --> 01:20:55.199
the day they announced it last week, and I'm guessing that's mostly like from

1456
01:20:55.199 --> 01:20:57.720
the tech side, to make sure, hey, they're actually giving access to

1457
01:20:57.720 --> 01:21:00.640
people who are paying for it or
have permissions because yeah, you got you

1458
01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:01.880
got to get the hooks into the
Yeah, it was not like that from

1459
01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:04.520
what I I don't know for a
fact anything, but I would guess it

1460
01:21:04.560 --> 01:21:08.079
was probably you know, a few
thousand people, not like tens of that's

1461
01:21:08.239 --> 01:21:11.640
right, right, very small scale
only on Xbox One. Yes, currently

1462
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:14.479
as of know, you know,
that could change. Yeah, so when

1463
01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:16.640
you could circle back arounds like hey, we became a suddenly we think it's

1464
01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:19.239
good value now. And you know, they didn't say anything about whether this

1465
01:21:19.239 --> 01:21:23.439
would come to Origin, where they
obviously have way more control over their stuff.

1466
01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:26.399
Yeah. In fact, they have
all the control over their stuff.

1467
01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:29.760
Yeah. On Origin, when you
say it like that, it feels like

1468
01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:31.439
it would be I mean, like
in some in some respect when you when

1469
01:21:31.479 --> 01:21:33.119
you phrase it that way, you
sort of think of it is like it

1470
01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:36.439
is like the PS plus of Origin
R right, where it's like, oh,

1471
01:21:36.439 --> 01:21:40.159
if you sign up for PS plus, you get free games every month

1472
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:42.680
that you get to download and play. Uh, and you know there's some

1473
01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:45.479
general like discounts or appropriations for other
pieces of content. Uh, And you

1474
01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:48.600
think like on Origin, the excess
would be exactly that, right, Like

1475
01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:51.520
on Origin you'll get some free like
sort of legacy titles you could to play

1476
01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:55.119
and some new upcoming exclusive Yeah,
because they do. I mean, like

1477
01:21:55.199 --> 01:21:57.960
Rickert was looking at all those old
Commanding Conqueror games a few weeks ago,

1478
01:21:58.079 --> 01:22:00.720
like they have a lot of they
had a lot of legacy EA stuff on

1479
01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:03.399
Origin that they could be rolling that
would makes sense access to. Yeah,

1480
01:22:03.399 --> 01:22:06.399
I mean I'm excited to see people
testing the waters here like even if this

1481
01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:11.680
particular offerer is not super appealing right
out of the gate, but who knows

1482
01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:14.840
that, or who's say somebody else
won't come along and make it more competitive.

1483
01:22:14.920 --> 01:22:16.079
You know, for me, I
already owned those four games, so

1484
01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:19.079
sure, you know, value to
me was not immediate. So I'll wait

1485
01:22:19.079 --> 01:22:21.680
to see if they keep announcing cool
games that are in that like play as

1486
01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:26.600
much as you want rights as an
individual consumer and not as like an employee

1487
01:22:26.600 --> 01:22:29.079
of a large organization would be like, oh, I would consider checking it

1488
01:22:29.079 --> 01:22:30.119
out, but right now, like
I have all four of those games,

1489
01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:33.159
I've played them for hours, right
and so also the biggest thing that gives

1490
01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:36.840
me pause really is that it's it's
being implemented in a publisher specific way and

1491
01:22:36.840 --> 01:22:40.640
not a platform specific sure, because
you know if if all of a sudden,

1492
01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:44.079
it's like movies offt has one and
Activision has one and and you know,

1493
01:22:44.119 --> 01:22:45.159
you name it, it could be
a lot of subscriptions stack and all

1494
01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:47.359
of a sudden, yeah, that's
a lot of whereas you know something like

1495
01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:50.760
you know, like with a Netflix
subscription, you're getting like a probably as

1496
01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:54.920
much content as like a normal working
person can watch in a month. Anyway,

1497
01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:57.840
it's not like you're going to Universal
movies and boy the universal like you're

1498
01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:00.079
not, You're not You're not subscribing
to Netflix and who Lou and renting movies

1499
01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:02.399
on iTunes and like blah blah blah, like you're you know, you can

1500
01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:05.159
kind of pick and choose one or
two or the services. Yeah, And

1501
01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:09.079
it's like putting a cable package together. It's like what you end up bundling

1502
01:23:09.079 --> 01:23:11.760
content. And the one thing about
EA is that the content they're bundling is

1503
01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:15.760
very specific, and a lot of
consumers do actually know EA like outside it,

1504
01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:18.479
like you know, law consumers might
not be super aware of every detail

1505
01:23:18.520 --> 01:23:20.520
of like what Usoft does. It
doesn't make like, you know, like

1506
01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:25.239
they made another Rabbids and Just Dance
and Assassin's Creator all the same company,

1507
01:23:25.479 --> 01:23:28.399
but like EA Sports is EA Sports. Yeah like that. It's very like

1508
01:23:28.479 --> 01:23:30.880
in in the commercial and in the
game. In the game, I understand.

1509
01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:32.279
So, you know, we'll see
if it works. I don't know,

1510
01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:34.319
it's an interesting it's an interesting thing. If nothing, Yeah, yeah,

1511
01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:36.760
curious toe where goes? I wonder
if this means anything for the design

1512
01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:42.359
of the games themselves, because like
now they have an even greater incentive to

1513
01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:45.319
make the games have a longer tail. Yeah, like more DLC and stuff.

1514
01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:46.600
It's kind of similar to like a
PS plus thing, where it's like,

1515
01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:50.159
you know, they gave Don't Starve
to everybody with PS plus, but

1516
01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:53.720
now there's a big add on coming
out, and all those people might buy

1517
01:23:53.720 --> 01:23:56.560
that out on because they are to
have the game right. Yeah, it's

1518
01:23:56.560 --> 01:23:59.600
hard to say. I guess it'll
depend on how well this thing goes over

1519
01:23:59.640 --> 01:24:01.760
time. It's an interesting evolution of
the consoles. Yeah, you know,

1520
01:24:01.960 --> 01:24:08.000
it's good to see people trying stuff. Speaking of trying stuff, how's that

1521
01:24:08.079 --> 01:24:11.760
for a segue? If you're going
where I think you're going, I'd say

1522
01:24:12.199 --> 01:24:15.600
C plus B minus. Oh,
come on, PlayStation now is now in

1523
01:24:15.680 --> 01:24:21.760
open data bar to your now now
punning and it's did anybody else tried now?

1524
01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:25.159
Yeah? Yeah, I A you're
giving it a shot. Yeah,

1525
01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:29.079
we messed with it on on Professional
Friday a little bit. Probably do a

1526
01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:30.560
video, yes, oh yeah,
we totally need to do that. You

1527
01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:36.239
should sit down with the We have
like eighties seven days left on the rentals

1528
01:24:36.279 --> 01:24:43.680
that I've got get that video done, because ninety days is the longest increment

1529
01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:46.560
you can buy rental time for these
games. Yeah, that thing seems okay,

1530
01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:50.520
like it's I was way down on
the concept of like kind of streaming

1531
01:24:50.520 --> 01:24:55.479
games I've been burned by on Live
before. Yes, exactly, like since

1532
01:24:55.520 --> 01:24:58.840
that stuff was first talked about.
And even when they were showing now at

1533
01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:00.680
I think it was CS they were
showing it where they were like, all

1534
01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:03.720
the reports coming out of CES were
great, Yeah, it looks great,

1535
01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:06.720
it plays like very snappily. But
they were like, oh, the servers

1536
01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:09.880
running on is down the hall.
Yeah, and they're like, yeah,

1537
01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:12.399
we'll all the way down the hall, right, you know, like wait,

1538
01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:14.880
wait, that's not like, is
it just an HDMI K It's like

1539
01:25:14.880 --> 01:25:18.079
a really long SDI that doesn't count. Yeah. I think the actual tech

1540
01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:20.479
is a thing a lot of people
are skeptical of, and I hopefully that's

1541
01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:25.439
what the beta like whatever whatever you
think of the you know, pricing or

1542
01:25:25.520 --> 01:25:27.720
durations or any of that stuff,
which I know they're still kind of tweaking

1543
01:25:27.720 --> 01:25:30.079
and seeing it. Yeah, that's
kind of where people are getting hung up.

1544
01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:31.760
So you know, I'd say,
if you have if you have PlayStation

1545
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:33.920
and you have the PS store,
like go brows. If there's a title

1546
01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:36.640
and they're like, it's cool to
at least see the proof of concept,

1547
01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:40.800
Like this tech is really working,
and that guy Kai crew is like really

1548
01:25:40.800 --> 01:25:43.319
made some good stuff. Yeah,
it's from from what I've tried of it.

1549
01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:45.319
I mean, we have insane internet
in the office here, so that's

1550
01:25:45.319 --> 01:25:47.399
a little hard to judge. But
I did tried it at home on like

1551
01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:50.640
my Comcast is also a pretty good
at home Yeah, but it is a

1552
01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:54.399
consumer package. It's nothing out of
the ordinary, at least for this area,

1553
01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:57.600
and it was basically just as good
at home as it was here.

1554
01:25:57.640 --> 01:26:00.079
I mean we played Dead or five, which is like, you know,

1555
01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:03.159
super fast, yeah, kind of
demanding game, and the inputs feel good,

1556
01:26:03.159 --> 01:26:06.079
you know, it doesn't feel like
it's super laggy. Yeah, you

1557
01:26:06.119 --> 01:26:09.920
can kind of see some video compression
if you get right up near the screen,

1558
01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:14.079
but it works. I don't know
why they're calling it a beta.

1559
01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:15.760
Honestly, they're taking people's money for
it. Yeah, well, I mean

1560
01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:18.760
that's yeah, but this one,
this one very much. It's in the

1561
01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:21.439
store, you know, it's like
it's like it's one of the three major

1562
01:26:21.479 --> 01:26:25.119
headers in the store when you launch
it. Right now, it's a big

1563
01:26:25.199 --> 01:26:28.880
initiative and there's a lot of games
you can get, but yeah, the

1564
01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:32.159
pricing is kind of the thing.
Everybody's like, I don't know, So

1565
01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:34.880
I'm gonna roll away from this microphone
now, you say, what everything?

1566
01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:38.439
You want to go to the bathroom
now, it's probably your best day.

1567
01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:41.239
I'm happy to hear the feedback.
But yeah, we you know, we

1568
01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:44.000
looked at some of that stuff on
the show, and uh, what is

1569
01:26:44.039 --> 01:26:46.960
it. It's uh, it's the
the increments are for four hours, seven

1570
01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:50.159
days, seven days, thirty days, and then ninety days, right,

1571
01:26:51.359 --> 01:26:55.000
and you get it all like pretty
much across the board. It seemed like

1572
01:26:55.039 --> 01:26:59.000
the four hour price was like half
as much as the seven day price,

1573
01:26:59.039 --> 01:27:00.399
you know, which seems insane.
It's like, why isn't the four hour

1574
01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:02.560
price like ninety nine cents? I
mean, what game are you going to

1575
01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:05.640
do the four hour thing for?
I don't really understand, right, I

1576
01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:09.760
mean, even like short single player
games, that's going to be at least

1577
01:27:09.800 --> 01:27:13.239
five to eight right probably that's I
mean, that's basically like a paid demo

1578
01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:16.720
at that point. Pegel two,
Yeah, you get one hundred years of

1579
01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:20.760
Pegel two. Man. I mean, the intense seems pretty clear to me.

1580
01:27:20.760 --> 01:27:23.840
It's the you know, it's like, oh wow, seven days is

1581
01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:26.560
a way better deal than four hours, even though it's twice as much money

1582
01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:28.960
I get it for, and like, you know, what's the increase in

1583
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:32.119
you know, was that by factor
of like thirty or something in time?

1584
01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:36.399
And then and then the other thing
which I had not seen is that I

1585
01:27:36.399 --> 01:27:41.399
think the most expensive week game we
found was Farming Simulator at like twenty five

1586
01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:45.079
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for
three months. My understanding, I don't

1587
01:27:45.079 --> 01:27:47.640
know if this maybe you can speak
to this. My understanding is the publishers

1588
01:27:47.640 --> 01:27:55.359
are the ones setting these prices.
Is that that sounds possible for the company?

1589
01:27:55.399 --> 01:27:58.239
May Dudo runs as literact. It's
in and office directly next to mine,

1590
01:27:58.279 --> 01:28:00.159
and I catch like every fourth word
he says when when our doors are

1591
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:03.560
both open. So I've overheard a
lot of pssstup, but I'm not intimately

1592
01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:06.880
involved. You're sure that that's right. I'm twenty five percent sure that someone

1593
01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:10.720
had said those words in some order, but I don't know if it was

1594
01:28:11.199 --> 01:28:15.039
yes, no or no. Okay. That's there. Also Farming Simulator.

1595
01:28:15.079 --> 01:28:16.239
I love the idea of being a
couple of months and it actually just being

1596
01:28:16.319 --> 01:28:19.159
like one season. So you have
to keep extending from a CEO crop like

1597
01:28:19.159 --> 01:28:24.119
it's all real time. I got
to reup for fall. Yeah, we

1598
01:28:24.279 --> 01:28:26.479
did these crops, but I'm gonna
I'm gonna take my rental offline, let

1599
01:28:26.560 --> 01:28:28.760
a bake for three months, and
then in spring, I'm gonna go back

1600
01:28:28.760 --> 01:28:30.520
in there. I gotta, i
gotta re up for the harvest. You

1601
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:31.920
know. But like, seriously,
I wonder if you could do that,

1602
01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:36.159
Like if you paid for seven days
and you let your subscription last, would

1603
01:28:36.199 --> 01:28:40.399
it keep going in real time and
then a week later bought it again,

1604
01:28:40.760 --> 01:28:44.159
would your plants still be the shit? We got cicadas in the fields.

1605
01:28:44.239 --> 01:28:46.199
Yeah, you've got to maintain that. I have no idea. That's a

1606
01:28:46.199 --> 01:28:48.600
really interesting question. I mean,
I think the difference there would be if

1607
01:28:48.600 --> 01:28:53.279
whether or not the instance that you're
spinning up on like has a save files

1608
01:28:53.319 --> 01:28:55.960
sociate with it, or does not
have a save file social with which it

1609
01:28:56.039 --> 01:28:58.359
must right, it seems to be
tied into your account, I mean,

1610
01:28:58.479 --> 01:29:00.760
is when you launched the XMB,
it's got like a stripped down version of

1611
01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:03.680
it, and you can go see
your friends list in manage save. Even

1612
01:29:03.720 --> 01:29:06.239
the trophies are popping out. Yeah, the trophies get sinked. You can

1613
01:29:06.279 --> 01:29:10.399
see those on the real PS four
system interface. I mean obviously the save

1614
01:29:10.479 --> 01:29:13.960
is sticky for now. Yeah,
because I'm in the ninety day rental period,

1615
01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:15.399
and of course you know you're gonna
you can't like erase your progress every

1616
01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:18.439
day. Yeah, you're gonna keep
your safe between consoles while the rentals active.

1617
01:29:18.479 --> 01:29:20.359
I mean, yeah, the question
is once your rentals over, does

1618
01:29:20.359 --> 01:29:23.680
that stuff still stick around? So
to your point about why it's abate,

1619
01:29:23.680 --> 01:29:26.000
I think it's a bet of for
the questions that you're asking, like,

1620
01:29:26.079 --> 01:29:29.159
are these the final prices? Are
they it's the final model? Are we

1621
01:29:29.199 --> 01:29:30.960
working with publishers that you know,
make adjustments, are listening to consumers?

1622
01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:34.279
I think the answer is from what
I've heard again literally mumbled through the wall

1623
01:29:34.319 --> 01:29:38.760
of my office, it's like they're
legitimately like curs, Like no one's ever

1624
01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:41.279
done anything like this on this big
of a scale before. So they're just

1625
01:29:41.319 --> 01:29:45.720
interesting those prices mo. Yeah.
In fact, probably taking the story I'm

1626
01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:49.680
looking at here, they took it
straight to him and shryer probably yeah.

1627
01:29:49.680 --> 01:29:54.039
I control up yeah and asked if
you know, hey, the price is

1628
01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:57.479
gonna come down, and they said, yeah, this is uh jack jack

1629
01:29:57.800 --> 01:30:00.920
Jack user user, I don't know
if those buster my neighbor Jackie. There

1630
01:30:00.960 --> 01:30:03.920
you go, okay, glad you're
here to get our pronunciations right when you

1631
01:30:03.960 --> 01:30:08.960
pick up because his like his mouth
is obscured by the wall of the office,

1632
01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:11.680
like Wilson. Yeah, yeah,
he I basically live in Hume from

1633
01:30:11.720 --> 01:30:17.960
and I'm basically okay, Tim to
man Taylor, that's pretty good. Yeah.

1634
01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:19.680
Anyway, he said, you know
they took it. They're taking in

1635
01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:23.079
a lot of feedback because people were
kind of raking them over the coals over

1636
01:30:23.079 --> 01:30:25.720
the stuff. And he said,
yeah. As a director, result of

1637
01:30:25.720 --> 01:30:29.079
the feedback, we're going to soon
introduce titles starting at one ninety nine sure,

1638
01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:33.560
uh hope to offer users a wide
range of price points shoots from encourage

1639
01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:38.439
our testers continue to tell us about
Right, So I will rephrase that last

1640
01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:41.239
thing as like, hey, if
you have feedback about this, or if

1641
01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:43.640
you're really excited about it from trying
it out, but would like it to

1642
01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:46.800
be different, like send constructive feedback
to people, like tweet at PlayStation with

1643
01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:51.119
constructive feedback. If you're just screaming
like I'm out of it, it's like

1644
01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:55.079
no one's gonna be able to hear
you, so try to be you know,

1645
01:30:55.439 --> 01:30:57.600
focused, constructive. I know that
the team working out is working really

1646
01:30:57.640 --> 01:31:00.840
hard on the technical side and on
the account side, so I I'm hopeful

1647
01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:02.800
that we can make PS now a
really cool thing. Yeah. Yeah,

1648
01:31:02.840 --> 01:31:05.479
it's probably the first step in that
process of making sure it works. I

1649
01:31:05.479 --> 01:31:09.199
will say the hard part was the
tech, and it seems like the tech

1650
01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:11.479
is in place, like that's solid. Yeah, that's good to see.

1651
01:31:12.079 --> 01:31:14.520
The rest of it is the rest
of its fluid. Although I was I

1652
01:31:14.560 --> 01:31:15.600
was gonna say, like I said, forming simulater, it was the most

1653
01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:18.159
expensive thing we saw on the video, But like I'm looking at this now

1654
01:31:18.199 --> 01:31:25.079
and apparently one Fantasy one twenty thirteen
is forty nine ninety nine. It's like

1655
01:31:25.119 --> 01:31:27.439
the only reason at that point to
get that is if you don't have a

1656
01:31:27.439 --> 01:31:30.439
PS three. Yeah. Yeah,
Also, there will probably be an F

1657
01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:31.600
one game out for the PS four
soon, so maybe just wait for that

1658
01:31:31.920 --> 01:31:34.920
twenty fifteen. Some of that stuff
is insane. That's crazy. That's the

1659
01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:39.880
price of a full retail game.
But yeah, it does. It does

1660
01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:42.880
seem like it's fluid, and again, the pricing stuff is those are things

1661
01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:45.880
that can be addressed through businessing.
I don't know through the tech which is

1662
01:31:45.920 --> 01:31:49.800
which seems to be on point.
I don't know anything about what's happening next

1663
01:31:49.800 --> 01:31:54.399
with that at all. I just
know that those guys are good guys.

1664
01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:57.399
Hopefully people will get a service that
they really want. It's okay, I'm

1665
01:31:57.439 --> 01:32:00.720
not gonna hold it against no keep
asking me this question. I will.

1666
01:32:00.800 --> 01:32:01.880
I'll find new ways to say I
don't have an answer. Hey, when's

1667
01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:08.119
the PlayStation now? I'm gonna get
better drinks. Why does it suck so

1668
01:32:08.199 --> 01:32:15.520
much? All right? And then
also I want to talk yours a little

1669
01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:18.319
follow up. They were kind of
needling up about why it's only PS three

1670
01:32:18.359 --> 01:32:25.239
games on there so far, and
the response. We are also currently considering

1671
01:32:25.279 --> 01:32:28.760
measures to offer original PlayStation PS two
NPS four titles in the future, but

1672
01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:31.399
at this time only PS three titles
are being offered, so you know,

1673
01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:34.520
I mean, this's basically kind of
like everybody expected when this was announced.

1674
01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:40.479
This seems like the way to solve
the backwards compatibility problem. Gonna play smugglers

1675
01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:43.319
run my PS four. I guess
you could do that. There's there's a

1676
01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:45.079
lot of good PS two games out
there, It's true, Yeah, I

1677
01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:47.640
guess The biggest question for a lot
of people is if there will ever be

1678
01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:53.079
a way to kind of authenticate previous
purchases with this thing and just play versus

1679
01:32:53.159 --> 01:32:56.079
and you have to use your PS
two discs. That would be the dream,

1680
01:32:56.159 --> 01:32:58.600
right if you should put it in
like a like a legit retailed disc

1681
01:32:58.720 --> 01:33:01.079
and play the streaming version like that
would be amazing. It would be you

1682
01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:03.039
know, they're able to charge you
for it, that's the thing, you

1683
01:33:03.119 --> 01:33:05.000
know, And like, I,
you know, I can kind of sympathize

1684
01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:09.279
there. I'm sure they're a massive
R and D and infrastructure costs associated with

1685
01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:12.439
this thing. So my job is
to do what you're doing, which is

1686
01:33:12.520 --> 01:33:15.640
like I walk around the office going
like, but why can't it be this?

1687
01:33:15.119 --> 01:33:18.680
And then you speak for the users
ninety five at the time, they're

1688
01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:21.920
like this really simple reason why,
like that would never ever technically work,

1689
01:33:21.960 --> 01:33:25.760
And you're like, oh, okay, but everyone's in a while they're like,

1690
01:33:26.119 --> 01:33:29.880
oh maybe, and that's it's not
a conspiracy. They just they just

1691
01:33:29.960 --> 01:33:31.960
have a little laminated P and L
in their in their wallets and the like,

1692
01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:35.199
yeah, do you know, and
there's no business works and I'm like,

1693
01:33:35.359 --> 01:33:39.920
no, I just want stuff to
be cool. I want cool things.

1694
01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:43.279
Make them. Yeah, so yeah, we'll see where the thing goes.

1695
01:33:43.359 --> 01:33:45.319
But you know, kind of like
the A access stuff, like it's

1696
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:47.000
cool that somebody's trying this. I
pick a bad week to come on this

1697
01:33:47.079 --> 01:33:51.960
podcasts a Sony topical week for Yes, apparently it's it has been going that

1698
01:33:53.079 --> 01:33:57.479
way, Sony Man. They're good
people. Yeah, they things. Really,

1699
01:33:57.960 --> 01:34:00.039
it's really on the up and up
there. You are mad at me

1700
01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:03.520
for saying something that I don't realize
I said in the past ten minutes.

1701
01:34:04.039 --> 01:34:08.199
They're all good people who I hope
no that I've only been on the job

1702
01:34:08.239 --> 01:34:10.960
for four weeks. We can talk
about the PSN hack again this week.

1703
01:34:11.479 --> 01:34:15.119
Oh yeah, yeah, one's my
one's my settlement coming in. Fuck you

1704
01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:16.760
did that last week. I listened
to that podcast. You know my identity

1705
01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:23.439
was stolen. I could prove it. Yeah, okay, your identity Dota

1706
01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:27.399
two Master Brad Shoemaker file for a
credit If that were my actual identity,

1707
01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:30.319
it'd be fine with it. They
did a Dota two credit card, would

1708
01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:34.039
you sign up for? Uh?
Didn't they do one for They did one

1709
01:34:34.079 --> 01:34:38.760
for League? You earn they really? Yeah, they're killing League sponsored visa

1710
01:34:39.119 --> 01:34:42.840
card yeah, and it gets you
like end game like in yeah credit Riot

1711
01:34:42.880 --> 01:34:45.560
points you only you can use it
for anything and then you buy well there's

1712
01:34:45.640 --> 01:34:48.239
but there's you can only spend spend
it on league stuff. You know,

1713
01:34:48.319 --> 01:34:50.000
it's just the one. No,
no, no, I think it's no.

1714
01:34:50.119 --> 01:34:53.840
It was a credit card. Like
if I had the star Wars.

1715
01:34:53.880 --> 01:34:56.600
I have my star Ward card and
my my American Express for star Ward Hotels,

1716
01:34:56.760 --> 01:35:00.159
I buy a burger and then no, no's what I mean. I

1717
01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:02.520
mean, I'm talking about these Yeah, I'm talking about the rewards can only

1718
01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:04.920
be spent on league. Yes.
The reason I say that is that if

1719
01:35:04.960 --> 01:35:09.479
it were a Dota card, that
stuff would come in as Steam Wallet funds,

1720
01:35:09.520 --> 01:35:13.199
which means you could buy anything Dash
money, anything on Steam itself game

1721
01:35:13.279 --> 01:35:15.439
wise or on the Steam market with
that credit. So that would be a

1722
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:18.920
really used credit card. Yeah,
yeah, that would be it would Steam.

1723
01:35:19.039 --> 01:35:21.479
It would effectively be a Steam credit
card, even though it's a Doda

1724
01:35:21.560 --> 01:35:24.880
on it, which like that would
actually be super useful. You can have

1725
01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:27.760
that one game, kick that one
over the fence. Who's to say it's

1726
01:35:27.760 --> 01:35:30.439
not already. I wouldn't be surprised. They got economists on staff. They

1727
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:33.920
do what's the details of the GameStop
one? Aren't they announced? So that's

1728
01:35:33.960 --> 01:35:36.039
what it was? Was that what
it was? Doing? A credit card?

1729
01:35:36.119 --> 01:35:39.560
Yeah? And I heard they have
like crazy rate. I didn't see

1730
01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:42.520
that story. Is that yeah?
Worth talking about? Yeah? No,

1731
01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:45.199
why don't you bring up the PSN
thing again from last week instead of doing

1732
01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:46.319
your research for the news. This
is why I'm in charge of the BombCast.

1733
01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:50.159
Guys. Remember when TSN was down
for like two months? Two months?

1734
01:35:50.760 --> 01:35:55.760
Did not work here? Then?
Remember when online only games came and

1735
01:35:55.840 --> 01:36:00.600
went in that two months. It's
okay, Drake thinks way better now,

1736
01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:02.960
I think so. I am not
even joking. Things are way better.

1737
01:36:03.720 --> 01:36:06.560
Things are good. I'm gonna get
yelled at. Don't even say anything.

1738
01:36:06.720 --> 01:36:09.920
Oh, I'm sorry, whatever it
is, what it is, break,

1739
01:36:09.960 --> 01:36:14.119
I really wanted to play so calm
that week. Just just acknowledge that you

1740
01:36:14.159 --> 01:36:17.399
would have said these things anyway even
if I wasn't here. Maybe stop twisting

1741
01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:24.119
the knife. I don't really like
socom. Well great, oh boy,

1742
01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:30.079
let's move on to cheer your news, shall weep? A new guy who's

1743
01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:35.000
ready for their weekly check in on
the business doings of Krytech. I thought

1744
01:36:35.039 --> 01:36:39.159
you said this is gonna be heavier
bred because I think this is I think

1745
01:36:39.199 --> 01:36:41.680
this is like it's happy if you
want home Front too. I think this

1746
01:36:41.760 --> 01:36:45.760
marks like the the one month anniversary
of talking about Crytech business stuff every week.

1747
01:36:47.159 --> 01:36:50.840
Deep Silver bought cr R no Deep
Silver to not buy Crytech. Deep

1748
01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:56.399
Silver bought home Front from Krytech yep. Okay, so you know all the

1749
01:36:56.439 --> 01:37:00.039
previous troubles where people making home Front
too in the UK, We're supposed to

1750
01:37:00.039 --> 01:37:03.600
be not getting paid and people started
leaving from that studio, and then then

1751
01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:06.079
Crytech was like, hey, we're
paying them again, but a bunch of

1752
01:37:06.079 --> 01:37:10.720
people had already left. Uh.
I don't know if this is the cash

1753
01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:13.920
infusion that Crytech was talking about in
that statement, but they sold the home

1754
01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:15.960
Front rights to Deep Silver. When
I when I saw that story, my

1755
01:37:16.279 --> 01:37:19.199
first thought was like cool, that
sounds like home Front, will you know

1756
01:37:19.399 --> 01:37:21.960
be coming out? And that game
looked pretty good. When I saw three

1757
01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:26.439
and come Front two starring Johnny Gett
yep, and then and then like b

1758
01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:29.159
like cool. I hope that gives
them some more runway to figure out whatever

1759
01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:31.039
transition they're going. Yeah, because
Crytech is kind of in a weird spot

1760
01:37:32.119 --> 01:37:34.760
take them at their word on the
like weird transition a being coming up,

1761
01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:38.119
you know, content publisher. Yes, I guess so. I mean they're

1762
01:37:38.119 --> 01:37:40.399
doing all those free to play games
that I had never heard of before E

1763
01:37:40.479 --> 01:37:42.720
three when they had a big booth
showing all those free to play games,

1764
01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:45.239
which was kind of shocking. I
was like, Wow, you guys really

1765
01:37:45.279 --> 01:37:46.760
diversified in a rapid fashion. Yeah. I haven't seen him yet, and

1766
01:37:47.800 --> 01:37:51.560
they've got that thing going on.
But then like they're their main graphics guy

1767
01:37:51.800 --> 01:37:56.720
left the cry Engine team to go
to software. Yeah, and this this

1768
01:37:57.199 --> 01:37:59.880
strife is happening in the UK,
Like who knows what's going on that come.

1769
01:38:00.359 --> 01:38:03.279
But anyway, it seems like home
Front will happen. Ye, Deep

1770
01:38:03.279 --> 01:38:08.279
Silver will will it into me gonna
mess up Philadelphia? Uh yeah, everything

1771
01:38:08.279 --> 01:38:11.520
I've heard about that game sounds cool. Uh yeah, I mean I Jeff

1772
01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:15.119
with Jeff's not wrong that it's like
it looks very much like Crisis three but

1773
01:38:15.640 --> 01:38:16.960
home Front. But like, and
that's not I don't think that's a bad

1774
01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:19.239
thing. It was. It was
fun, fun to play when I saw

1775
01:38:19.239 --> 01:38:23.359
it. Cool, So hopefully it'll
be great. I believe in Deep Silver

1776
01:38:23.479 --> 01:38:26.439
they do good things. Yeah,
you know, they've maybe doing a few

1777
01:38:26.479 --> 01:38:30.600
questionable things with the Dead Island property
here and there. That can be your

1778
01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:32.520
opinion. I'm okay with that.
I'm excited for Dead Island too. They

1779
01:38:32.560 --> 01:38:34.720
did your job. You didn't say
it's for four out there? Yeah man,

1780
01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:38.039
that game was good. Yeah man. So yeah, well, you

1781
01:38:38.039 --> 01:38:40.520
know, we'll see where the stuff
goes. But it seems like it's at

1782
01:38:40.600 --> 01:38:45.039
least in progress. It's a development. But then more Crytech News really headline

1783
01:38:45.560 --> 01:38:51.119
Crytek USA's leadership quit last week.
Yeah yeah, so yeah, they they

1784
01:38:51.600 --> 01:38:55.359
have clothes to their Crytek USA studio, which I didn't even know they had.

1785
01:38:55.920 --> 01:38:58.640
And if you guys were familiar with
that, yeah, what is I

1786
01:38:58.680 --> 01:39:01.239
don't even know what they're Texas,
No, no, no, they were

1787
01:39:01.279 --> 01:39:04.199
making They're making Hunt Horrors of the
guilded Age, which is the four player

1788
01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:09.600
co op shooter like Left or Dead
style. It was a D three Okay,

1789
01:39:11.399 --> 01:39:13.760
it just says this story just as
Texas. I'm not sure which city

1790
01:39:13.800 --> 01:39:16.319
they were in, Texas, yep, but I guess it was a thirty

1791
01:39:16.359 --> 01:39:19.840
to thirty five person studio and the
bulk of the studio is now gone,

1792
01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:26.760
including the leadership left and they were
moving development of the game to Frankfurt,

1793
01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:31.039
where Crytech is based and the lot
the basically the line Texas. The line

1794
01:39:31.079 --> 01:39:33.840
that was going around that was kind
of getting everybody up in arms was the

1795
01:39:34.199 --> 01:39:36.920
Critech was basically saying like, yeah, we're moving development, but we're giving

1796
01:39:38.039 --> 01:39:41.479
everybody the chance to come continue working
on the game in Germany. Okay.

1797
01:39:41.520 --> 01:39:44.239
It's like, yeah, great,
I'm sure everybody will just uproot their families

1798
01:39:44.319 --> 01:39:46.600
from Texas and head over to Germany. A man had moved to Germany.

1799
01:39:47.479 --> 01:39:50.399
Yeah, but you're dre You're you're
you're Drew. Yeah, you're crazy.

1800
01:39:50.880 --> 01:39:55.920
Fair point. Yeah, So this
was I guess this was actually all in

1801
01:39:55.960 --> 01:39:58.840
the wake of this. This Texas
studio was also not getting paid at the

1802
01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:00.640
same time as the UK studio,
but that was just not making headlines.

1803
01:40:02.399 --> 01:40:05.720
And then I didn't. I actually
had missed to this detail in the in

1804
01:40:05.800 --> 01:40:09.680
the home Front story is that they've
also closed the UK studio. They're actually

1805
01:40:11.399 --> 01:40:15.279
moving development of home Front two to
uh well not home Front two because that's

1806
01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:18.680
the Deep new Deep Silver studio right
home Front the Revolution. No, yeah,

1807
01:40:18.680 --> 01:40:23.960
I mean Deep Silver is forming this
new studio to continue working on that

1808
01:40:24.039 --> 01:40:27.720
game. Right that made up made
up of former Critech you came play,

1809
01:40:27.880 --> 01:40:30.960
but it wouldn't be in Frankfort.
Oh no, I guess stuff in Germany.

1810
01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:32.439
It doesn't say where the Yeah,
I mean their Coke Media is like

1811
01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:36.079
based. Yeah, but I thought
they were building a new studio in London

1812
01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:39.359
to do it. That may be
the case. I'm not seeing where the

1813
01:40:39.560 --> 01:40:42.079
new studio will be here, so
maybe that will not be super disruptive for

1814
01:40:42.319 --> 01:40:48.319
those people. But yeah, you
know, ongoing saga. Hopefully good games

1815
01:40:48.359 --> 01:40:53.239
come out. People land on their
feet if they're leaving or or having their

1816
01:40:53.319 --> 01:40:55.319
jobs. Yeah, I did say
that. The story I was looking at

1817
01:40:55.359 --> 01:40:58.960
did say that's a bunch of a
bunch of the people in the from the

1818
01:40:59.000 --> 01:41:00.880
Texas studio that we're just place.
I've already found new jobs elsewhere. Yeah,

1819
01:41:01.119 --> 01:41:05.359
that's good, so you know,
see how that stuff goes. I

1820
01:41:06.520 --> 01:41:11.960
remember meeting hivat Yearly Yes se him, ye, head of head of Critech

1821
01:41:12.199 --> 01:41:15.720
CEO. He's the guy, yeah
the Crytech is one of the early brothers.

1822
01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:20.520
Yeah, uh German. And I
met him at that Crisis Too event

1823
01:41:20.640 --> 01:41:24.399
in New York. Yes with you, yes, And I said nice to

1824
01:41:24.439 --> 01:41:29.359
meet you in German, and then
he responded like, assuming I knew German.

1825
01:41:29.479 --> 01:41:31.239
So they're like, it's just a
paragraph you of German. I'm like,

1826
01:41:31.560 --> 01:41:35.920
I did, That's way too much
for me. I took two classes

1827
01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:41.279
and literally googled how to say nice
to meet on my phone. This is

1828
01:41:41.319 --> 01:41:45.479
my concern with going to Tokyo.
I've been listening to immersive Japanese in the

1829
01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:49.319
car, really trying to like not
learn Japanese. That's never gonna happen in

1830
01:41:49.319 --> 01:41:53.199
battle languages, but just get like
to the point where I can say thank

1831
01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:55.680
you very much and like excuse me, or order food and not feel like

1832
01:41:55.720 --> 01:41:57.960
a total idiot. No, I
literally don't have anything here. I started,

1833
01:41:58.239 --> 01:42:00.399
I started like yesterday. But all
I'm concerned about so whenever I've gone,

1834
01:42:00.640 --> 01:42:02.479
I speak a little German, a
little French, litle Spanish, like

1835
01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:05.920
enough to go to these countries and
have like to order a sandwich or whatever

1836
01:42:06.079 --> 01:42:09.600
and ask what the bathroom is.
And then I go there and everyone always

1837
01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:12.600
answers me back in English, and
I'm like, look and tell like,

1838
01:42:12.760 --> 01:42:14.960
I know that I suck at this, and I know that you know I

1839
01:42:15.079 --> 01:42:17.640
suck at this, but can you
like just point and not be like it's

1840
01:42:17.680 --> 01:42:20.079
over there, dumb American, which
is basically what they do, and so

1841
01:42:20.119 --> 01:42:24.680
that's I think it's that issue is
the tone, like it is like an

1842
01:42:24.680 --> 01:42:27.520
eye rolling like yeah, okay,
you tried to speak our lands. Yeah

1843
01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:30.279
okay. I mean in Germany it's
usually just like we all speak English.

1844
01:42:30.279 --> 01:42:31.800
I don't know why you're speaking Germans. I had that experience in Germany,

1845
01:42:31.840 --> 01:42:34.560
and it was a very business like
like that didn't even acknowledge that I tried

1846
01:42:34.560 --> 01:42:39.159
to speak German, like they deficiently
answered and gave me the information. Sometimes

1847
01:42:39.199 --> 01:42:42.199
you also get people to just want
to try out their English on English.

1848
01:42:42.279 --> 01:42:45.079
That's true, that's true. But
I'm Japan makes me more nervous. I

1849
01:42:45.119 --> 01:42:48.319
feel like there is the place where
I am most likely to think. I

1850
01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:51.600
am saying like I would like to
order some sushimi and in fact be like

1851
01:42:51.800 --> 01:42:56.680
your mother is made of automobiles,
something completely random because the pronunciation is so

1852
01:42:56.760 --> 01:43:00.039
important, and I'm just like never
gonna get there. The crowning sheet achievement

1853
01:43:00.079 --> 01:43:03.880
of all five of my trips in
Japan was the time that the maid tried

1854
01:43:03.880 --> 01:43:06.359
to come into the hotel room and
I politely asked her to give me five

1855
01:43:06.399 --> 01:43:11.119
minutes. How did that work?
She understood. I'm trying to remember what

1856
01:43:11.239 --> 01:43:14.880
five is in Japanese and I can't
remember. I was super excited. Can

1857
01:43:14.920 --> 01:43:16.720
you say that now? I'm not
going to Yes, but no, No,

1858
01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:21.600
that's four? Damn it? Go
what No? I was go?

1859
01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:26.840
Oh? Go is right? That's
right? Got okay, it's confusing.

1860
01:43:26.920 --> 01:43:30.560
Go means five and I can't keep
it straight. Yes, literally go in

1861
01:43:30.640 --> 01:43:33.119
English? No, man, Sky
is coming out on PC? All right,

1862
01:43:33.640 --> 01:43:39.239
in case you were worried, I
kind of shocked anybody what was like

1863
01:43:40.039 --> 01:43:43.560
in any way and doubt of that
because nothing doesn't come out on PC.

1864
01:43:44.199 --> 01:43:46.439
Oh, yeah, that's true.
I thought the wording at the Sony press

1865
01:43:46.439 --> 01:43:50.640
conference was console exclusive, right.
Isn't that how they phrased it? Right?

1866
01:43:50.680 --> 01:43:54.119
And when I think that's the difference
which you were thinking, always means

1867
01:43:54.239 --> 01:43:57.840
when you say it's a console and
right when you say it's console exclusive versus

1868
01:43:58.000 --> 01:44:01.039
a console exclusive, right, like
it's exclusive to our console in the world

1869
01:44:01.079 --> 01:44:04.960
of consoles, versus it's exclusive to
consoles instead of PC mobile. And or

1870
01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:09.439
maybe the wording may have been like
will I don't know, we'll ship first

1871
01:44:09.479 --> 01:44:12.520
on PS four or something like that, but it was not the definitive like

1872
01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:15.920
this is a PS four game type
of language that you would expect if it

1873
01:44:15.039 --> 01:44:17.600
was just a PS four game.
Yeah, but you know, people people

1874
01:44:17.640 --> 01:44:21.079
were still not people are still squeamish
about the idea that it would not come

1875
01:44:21.079 --> 01:44:24.600
out on PC. Sure, but
it is glad that it is. Those

1876
01:44:24.640 --> 01:44:27.399
guys are really awesome that games would
be fucking amazing. Yeah. This uh

1877
01:44:27.760 --> 01:44:31.439
came out of Edge magazine. It
will be out on PS four first exclusively.

1878
01:44:31.520 --> 01:44:35.000
We'll not ship on PC the same
day. Any idea about the delta

1879
01:44:35.119 --> 01:44:38.560
I'm trying to find. No,
they didn't go into details. I'm trying

1880
01:44:38.560 --> 01:44:44.479
to find the quote about it that's
shakeout it is. I'm not saying I'm

1881
01:44:44.479 --> 01:44:46.319
not saying the quote. But they
did say that there is some small exclusivity

1882
01:44:46.319 --> 01:44:48.399
window before it will come to PC. But I don't think. I can't

1883
01:44:48.399 --> 01:44:51.520
imagine it'll be super long. Yeah, just get a PS four man or

1884
01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:56.560
is there's that? So Sean Murray, Sean Murray, our our friend overt

1885
01:44:56.560 --> 01:45:00.199
Hella Games, was talking about it
and it's kind of interesting. I mean,

1886
01:45:00.239 --> 01:45:01.720
he says, he says, unlike
most games, the actual hardware really

1887
01:45:01.720 --> 01:45:05.119
affects what we can do in terms
of the richness of the worlds and things

1888
01:45:05.199 --> 01:45:09.960
like that. It isn't just adding
a veneer of resolution or extra anti a

1889
01:45:10.079 --> 01:45:12.720
leasing options. It has a real
effect on what we can actually do in

1890
01:45:12.760 --> 01:45:15.479
the universe. So that did be
more charming by the way he is.

1891
01:45:15.600 --> 01:45:17.880
Yeah, he is like such a
joy to talk to because he's like so

1892
01:45:18.279 --> 01:45:20.800
like, That's the thing I love
about those guys is they're making one of

1893
01:45:20.800 --> 01:45:25.680
the most incredible looking games ever and
they're so super humble, yeah, and

1894
01:45:25.760 --> 01:45:28.279
down to earth about it. I've
never met him in person, but watching

1895
01:45:28.319 --> 01:45:30.479
interviews with him makes me nervous because
I'm like, this charm is gonna crack

1896
01:45:30.520 --> 01:45:32.479
at some point and he's just gonna
like stab a hobo. That's what I

1897
01:45:32.800 --> 01:45:35.760
kept waiting, Like he's just been
bottling up how nice he's for years and

1898
01:45:35.800 --> 01:45:40.039
he's actually hates things, but he
just seems like the best due yeah,

1899
01:45:40.119 --> 01:45:42.640
or just like oh, they know
they're the ship and they're doing amazing stuff.

1900
01:45:42.640 --> 01:45:45.039
They're just this is just some kind
of act to like make everybody love

1901
01:45:45.079 --> 01:45:48.560
them. Though. I think they're
totally genuinely just like kind of charmingly nerdy,

1902
01:45:48.640 --> 01:45:54.119
like really hardcore tech and like a
tiny team. But I don't understand.

1903
01:45:54.520 --> 01:45:56.840
Yeah, I mean they're so experienced, and I get how they've they've

1904
01:45:56.840 --> 01:45:59.680
built other big games, both as
Hello Gains and before, but like but

1905
01:45:59.800 --> 01:46:01.439
like, man, it's it's just
not that many people and they're making a

1906
01:46:01.520 --> 01:46:04.079
lot of a lot of stuff.
My understanding when we when we met the

1907
01:46:04.119 --> 01:46:06.760
initial four person team way back in
like November, when they were first coming

1908
01:46:06.760 --> 01:46:10.680
around pitching this game, like I
remember I saw you that week and you

1909
01:46:10.720 --> 01:46:12.960
were like, I can't tell you
what I saw, but if blew my

1910
01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:15.880
mind. It's the biggest game of
all time. Yeah, that was fun

1911
01:46:15.960 --> 01:46:18.399
watching people speculate about because it wasn't
just us. Everybody seen that. Timo

1912
01:46:18.520 --> 01:46:24.119
was like I was like I showed
oh yeah, let's yep. Keep telling

1913
01:46:24.159 --> 01:46:29.640
yourself then. But my impression when
I met the four members of that team

1914
01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:30.760
is that they were all coders,
you know, like whatever else they were

1915
01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:33.399
doing, Like everybody was like programming
parts of that game. It's not like,

1916
01:46:33.439 --> 01:46:36.479
oh, I'm just a design guy. It's like everybody is in there,

1917
01:46:36.520 --> 01:46:39.520
and you know, like they were
talking to Y three on our live

1918
01:46:39.560 --> 01:46:42.600
show about like you know, they're
reading a lot of academic papers, like

1919
01:46:42.720 --> 01:46:45.239
they're on the forefront of a lot
of this type of content generation in the

1920
01:46:45.279 --> 01:46:48.760
way that they're crazy sig graft ship. Oh yeah, yeah, the way

1921
01:46:48.800 --> 01:46:50.680
that they're automating a lot of you
know, they're you know, obviously they

1922
01:46:50.720 --> 01:46:55.600
can't hand make millions of planets.
I saw a cigarette video to day that

1923
01:46:55.960 --> 01:47:00.520
was high definition SloMo video of a
plant, and it is the video was

1924
01:47:00.600 --> 01:47:04.680
silent and they in the room had
a loudspeaker that played the tones of Mary

1925
01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:09.439
had a little lamb, and they
were reverse engineering the sound in the room

1926
01:47:09.439 --> 01:47:12.840
that was causing the vibrations in this
slow motion camera on the plant. And

1927
01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:15.039
when they when they like reverse engineered
it played Mary had a little lam like

1928
01:47:15.039 --> 01:47:18.800
they basically from the visual only from
seeing how it it made the plant leaves

1929
01:47:18.920 --> 01:47:21.319
move, they could tell exactly what
the tones were in the room. What

1930
01:47:21.800 --> 01:47:29.920
it was incredible. I don't understand
video, no, no real time.

1931
01:47:29.920 --> 01:47:32.760
It was like they studied the video
and they like basically rebuilt the tones,

1932
01:47:33.039 --> 01:47:38.399
okay from just like the way it
disturbed crea. What is that? What

1933
01:47:38.560 --> 01:47:41.319
is science? How does any of
us make any sense? They're they're they're

1934
01:47:41.960 --> 01:47:45.640
they're generating, they're judging the song
from the visual data. You're a CIA

1935
01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:53.039
agent on the other side of that
glass is our two KGB agents and they're

1936
01:47:53.199 --> 01:47:59.319
discussing their plans right also captive,
no, no, you're spying on them.

1937
01:47:59.520 --> 01:48:02.079
Oh through a window. Through a
window. Also, like right in

1938
01:48:02.159 --> 01:48:06.640
front of between them is a plant. Okay, so you film that plant.

1939
01:48:09.279 --> 01:48:11.840
Why am I filming the plant instead
of trying to get if you have

1940
01:48:11.920 --> 01:48:15.640
this special awesome stuff. So you
take the video of the plant, run

1941
01:48:15.680 --> 01:48:21.960
it through this craz whatever crazy algorithm, and from the vibrations in the air

1942
01:48:23.640 --> 01:48:29.520
that have moved the leaves of the
plant imperceptibly, you can then extrapolate what

1943
01:48:30.119 --> 01:48:32.760
sound was happening. So they have
their backs to you, they're talking towards

1944
01:48:32.800 --> 01:48:34.800
the window, and they're talking about
this is plant in front of them,

1945
01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:38.279
and from seeing how the plant was
moving, you can basically tell what they

1946
01:48:38.319 --> 01:48:42.359
said. Oh weird, right,
to be fair, two way conversations maybe

1947
01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:45.840
a little more high resolution than all. Yeah, like, but but thats

1948
01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:53.359
actually explained the concept of simple melody. But that was good. I just

1949
01:48:53.520 --> 01:48:56.039
made me think of sneakers immediately.
Do I kill them? Yeah? Do

1950
01:48:56.159 --> 01:48:58.239
I get them? Sure? Yeah? Okay, you kill them? Not

1951
01:48:58.439 --> 01:49:00.199
not really relevant to this anil,
But if you'd like too shure, it's

1952
01:49:00.199 --> 01:49:02.560
going like a pretty cool spot.
Pick him up and put him in like

1953
01:49:02.600 --> 01:49:08.720
games By anyway. Yeah, don't
fret that game's coming to It's gonna be

1954
01:49:08.800 --> 01:49:11.600
so good. It's coming to Peace
Space. I just I yes, I

1955
01:49:11.680 --> 01:49:14.319
hope so yeah, damn it.
I'm not counting on that game to be

1956
01:49:14.359 --> 01:49:17.760
out this year like and Started.
Isn't either like maybe Elite Dangerouses or First

1957
01:49:17.880 --> 01:49:21.520
Best Hope perhaps to go to Space. But I bet those other two games

1958
01:49:21.560 --> 01:49:25.239
are ways off. I'm more I'm
more curious to see if that game ever

1959
01:49:25.319 --> 01:49:30.359
comes to Xbox, which game No
Man Sky, because a lot of things

1960
01:49:30.399 --> 01:49:31.840
would have to happen for that to
happen. You know, they'd have to

1961
01:49:32.880 --> 01:49:36.760
at least give it an exception on
their dumb parody release clause, if not

1962
01:49:36.920 --> 01:49:41.520
just retire that thing completely. Also, you know, like Sony would have

1963
01:49:41.560 --> 01:49:45.279
to allow that to happen in some
way, like business wise. I'm not

1964
01:49:45.479 --> 01:49:48.039
I'm not asking for comment, I'm
a shrugging going on. I'm gonna say

1965
01:49:48.399 --> 01:49:51.159
anything. I'm just that deal was
done before my time. I'm just you

1966
01:49:51.239 --> 01:49:57.560
know, I'm excited for No Man
Sky. Yea everything, yep, just

1967
01:49:57.600 --> 01:49:59.880
hold a banana in front of his
face, so eventually give up. Any

1968
01:50:00.399 --> 01:50:05.039
pointed out, don't make me eat
another orange, but another ghost. Another

1969
01:50:05.960 --> 01:50:11.880
thinks they're ghosts. He's the best. It's quite down Tom. I said

1970
01:50:11.920 --> 01:50:15.279
he's the best, Like he's gonna
listen to this pod. Threatened to throttle

1971
01:50:15.359 --> 01:50:17.199
him before I left the office because
he was driving me crazy. I want

1972
01:50:17.199 --> 01:50:24.479
to keep that animosity up. Philadelphia
game stops are now fingerprinting people who trade

1973
01:50:24.520 --> 01:50:28.279
in games. Yeah that's crazy.
Yeah, that's the things pawn shops have

1974
01:50:28.359 --> 01:50:30.319
done forever. Okay, well but
they're that's the policies. They don't want

1975
01:50:30.319 --> 01:50:34.479
to become the pawn shops of like
stolen games being traded for spoiling the story.

1976
01:50:34.600 --> 01:50:39.119
Damn, yeah, that that is
the that is the case that you

1977
01:50:39.199 --> 01:50:43.359
know, making sure they're not Dan
record. I've never stolen a damp thing

1978
01:50:43.399 --> 01:50:46.560
in my life. No, but
you are you telling me you never game

1979
01:50:46.600 --> 01:50:49.279
stop? Yeah? I did work. Are you telling you never traded in

1980
01:50:49.720 --> 01:50:53.680
a game? You got to get
a different game? You never traded in

1981
01:50:53.720 --> 01:50:57.079
the review copy of this Someone threw
your way back to gain stop? No?

1982
01:50:57.359 --> 01:50:58.960
No, okay, no, we
weren't allowed to. I mean,

1983
01:50:58.960 --> 01:51:00.640
I know you're not allowed to that's
why I'm asking. Yeah, no,

1984
01:51:00.720 --> 01:51:01.520
I never try to catch you in
a lot. You give all your games

1985
01:51:01.560 --> 01:51:05.800
to Amazon? Yeah, yeah,
there we go Amazon dot com. And

1986
01:51:05.960 --> 01:51:10.680
what did you just buy with your
trade in money? Sucking Drew with his

1987
01:51:11.399 --> 01:51:15.079
he's got this crazy Jedi trick to
where he, uh, he can make

1988
01:51:15.119 --> 01:51:18.279
me buy anything. Apparently he made
me buy this book that I don't even

1989
01:51:18.319 --> 01:51:21.279
know what it's about, huh about
Old Man's War? And then you just

1990
01:51:21.359 --> 01:51:25.640
made me spend two hundred dollars this
morning on a Savio Vega machine or a

1991
01:51:25.640 --> 01:51:32.279
sauce lito maker or what s saucelitoca
Savio Vega? What I'm guessing it has

1992
01:51:32.319 --> 01:51:35.039
to you have to be talking about
suvid Yes, that's it. Yes,

1993
01:51:36.399 --> 01:51:45.239
but even fucking I'm I don't know. Sato is a place wait can't wait

1994
01:51:45.239 --> 01:51:50.680
to get. Salvio Vega sounds like
the dude who played like role from Street

1995
01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:57.479
Fighter combined with Vega the careac crac
crac A couple of beers. I'm gonna

1996
01:51:57.479 --> 01:52:01.920
saucelito me a couple of steaks.
Uh No, it's some crazy thing you

1997
01:52:01.960 --> 01:52:06.359
put into a pot and it magically
makes like you know, what's sueven on

1998
01:52:06.399 --> 01:52:10.640
this podcast. Here's why it's amazing, though, is because I've always wanted

1999
01:52:10.680 --> 01:52:13.640
to make just tons of meat at
home and eat it for all my dinners,

2000
01:52:13.720 --> 01:52:15.119
and I never do because I'm afraid
I'm gonna kill myself. I try

2001
01:52:15.159 --> 01:52:17.800
to cook meat because I don't know
how to cook. But Drew told me,

2002
01:52:17.840 --> 01:52:20.039
you just throw it in a bag
and a pot and you throw this

2003
01:52:20.159 --> 01:52:23.800
magic wand thing in there, and
then it makes perfect meat. Yeah.

2004
01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:27.119
I'm just gonna eat nothing but meat. You're aware every night, You're aware

2005
01:52:27.159 --> 01:52:30.039
that it's not gonna have any like
it's I'm gonna describe it in a negative

2006
01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:32.119
way. I am pro suvie,
but I'm describing a negative way. First,

2007
01:52:32.199 --> 01:52:36.119
it's gonna be basically like gray,
like not colored like a steak on

2008
01:52:36.159 --> 01:52:39.359
the grill colored. And then you'll
cook, you'll cut it, and it'll

2009
01:52:39.399 --> 01:52:41.600
be perfectly temperature. I don't give
a shit what it looks, okay,

2010
01:52:41.640 --> 01:52:44.239
because it's not just what it looks
steak. It's not just what it looks

2011
01:52:44.279 --> 01:52:45.960
like. It's not gonna have any
of that nice like see her on the

2012
01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:48.600
outside. You know, I think
I'm not a picky guy. I just

2013
01:52:48.720 --> 01:52:50.720
like to eat it just a big
hunk of meat. I think you'll live.

2014
01:52:50.760 --> 01:52:53.920
It's edible and it's meat. I'm
gonna like. I mean, if

2015
01:52:53.960 --> 01:52:55.520
you want to see her, then
you see it. Yeah, that's all

2016
01:52:55.520 --> 01:52:58.560
you gotta do. Yeah, that
sounds confusing. You just actually buy a

2017
01:52:58.720 --> 01:53:00.720
blowtorch and see you serious? That
sounds like a great you can do that.

2018
01:53:00.800 --> 01:53:02.239
Yeah, I'll do that. You
just you know, throw it on

2019
01:53:02.279 --> 01:53:06.399
a skillet for like ninety seconds.
You have some sort of like the money

2020
01:53:06.439 --> 01:53:09.840
you paid Dan back if he dies
in the first six months. He's trying

2021
01:53:09.840 --> 01:53:12.800
to check in some creative way.
Yeah, we we rented him on PlayStation.

2022
01:53:12.880 --> 01:53:16.439
Now it's like we got ninety days
to see how he works out.

2023
01:53:16.920 --> 01:53:23.239
You're digging now, this podcast got
real mean since Jeff left, trying to

2024
01:53:23.319 --> 01:53:25.439
invite more guests on the show than
just give him ship the whole time.

2025
01:53:26.159 --> 01:53:29.319
Oh I don't given Sam Common this
kind of ship. Yeah. Oh yeah.

2026
01:53:29.359 --> 01:53:30.239
That was kind of the long and
short of the story, though Dan

2027
01:53:30.359 --> 01:53:33.399
Dan had it that like the game
Stop actually put out a statement saying like,

2028
01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:39.359
yeah, it's a process we've recently
implemented in Philadelphia at the request of

2029
01:53:39.439 --> 01:53:43.960
the Philadelphia pd UH also put into
place on other parts of the US,

2030
01:53:44.039 --> 01:53:47.560
depending on local or statewide second hand
dealer or pawc. It's just it's just

2031
01:53:47.720 --> 01:53:51.079
kind of existing pawn type stuff.
It's like pawn laws being applied to a

2032
01:53:51.119 --> 01:53:54.720
story with freight ends, just regulations. This is how Home Front two will

2033
01:53:54.720 --> 01:53:57.520
start. Yeah, it'll start with
the game starts regulating and then they'll turn

2034
01:53:57.560 --> 01:54:00.239
out it was all was it North
Korea in that game? Yeah? Yeah,

2035
01:54:00.920 --> 01:54:03.479
they'll come in, they'll say we'll
remove the game stop fingerprinting thing.

2036
01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:05.760
Everyone's like, yeah, great,
corn in and they're like, oh,

2037
01:54:05.760 --> 01:54:10.119
it's a slipper slope m And that's
how you end up with Italitarian states and

2038
01:54:10.279 --> 01:54:14.159
hovercraft guns. I think there were
some flying guns. That sounds good.

2039
01:54:14.199 --> 01:54:18.600
I remember all right, last story
bio Shocks coming out on iOS. Yeah,

2040
01:54:19.920 --> 01:54:27.560
I am very skeptical. Yeah about
what about how it plays? Because

2041
01:54:28.319 --> 01:54:32.359
you've got your two thumbs doing your
lateral motion and your looking motion, and

2042
01:54:32.359 --> 01:54:36.000
then you got to shoot and you
got plasmids. Yea, it sounds like

2043
01:54:36.039 --> 01:54:39.399
a lot of things for your thumbs
to do. Who's got two thumbs and

2044
01:54:39.439 --> 01:54:45.560
a portable copy of bottle Shocks?
This guy? Goddamn ye I think they?

2045
01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:48.279
Yes, I agree with you.
I think you have to like move

2046
01:54:48.359 --> 01:54:55.600
your thumb to press the shoot button, which is weird or or yes,

2047
01:54:56.600 --> 01:55:01.039
what I would do? You have
a second joyce stick on your right thumb

2048
01:55:01.359 --> 01:55:08.000
that you moved too, that is
also look and shoot. So whenever you're

2049
01:55:08.079 --> 01:55:12.159
on that second joystick, if you
are shooting, and you can like constantly

2050
01:55:12.239 --> 01:55:15.479
shooting, yeah, to totally redo
like the whole ammo that that would be

2051
01:55:15.520 --> 01:55:17.079
tough, Yeah, because you'd be
shooting before you even lined up your shot,

2052
01:55:17.159 --> 01:55:20.439
like you'd be wasting, Amma.
You'd be lining up your shot with

2053
01:55:20.760 --> 01:55:26.359
with the non shooting joystick and then
you just go walk no your look.

2054
01:55:26.840 --> 01:55:30.199
I wonder if you could like paint
targets and then shoot. I don't know.

2055
01:55:30.279 --> 01:55:31.960
Let's see, I don't want to
play BioShock on a tablet. I

2056
01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:35.279
don't I want to play BioShock on
a controller on a tablet, So that'd

2057
01:55:35.279 --> 01:55:38.439
be fine, like just like I
want to play it wherever I want,

2058
01:55:38.479 --> 01:55:40.920
because it was fine. I like
Bioshot. So so shock News got to

2059
01:55:40.920 --> 01:55:44.479
play this thing. I saw a
little hands on site. Wasn't it announced

2060
01:55:44.520 --> 01:55:46.640
like three hours ago? Yes,
it was announced. It was announced yesterday.

2061
01:55:46.760 --> 01:55:50.479
And also they kind of did this
thing in disservice because they were teasing

2062
01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:54.560
it for the last couple of weeks, going like BioShock is back, like

2063
01:55:54.680 --> 01:56:00.199
when Tony Hawk was like, we're
making a new Twitter account, like be

2064
01:56:00.279 --> 01:56:01.920
making something new, what could that
be? And then hey, it's just

2065
01:56:02.039 --> 01:56:06.640
part of the first game to iowas. Thanks. Hopefully some people who didn't

2066
01:56:06.640 --> 01:56:11.039
play BioShock will get a chance to. Yeah, I don't know with one

2067
01:56:11.039 --> 01:56:14.079
of the best games ever play.
But anyway, I mean, if you

2068
01:56:14.159 --> 01:56:15.600
can read the Shack News right up
if you want to see they describe their

2069
01:56:15.640 --> 01:56:18.800
controls. But they did say it
plays okay with touch controls, but they

2070
01:56:18.880 --> 01:56:23.600
said it plays like you would expect
if you use a Bluetooth controler, so

2071
01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:28.039
that there is that if you want
that option. But apparely, the graphics

2072
01:56:28.119 --> 01:56:31.920
have been noticeably downscaled. Yeah,
they had to take out like reflections and

2073
01:56:31.960 --> 01:56:34.439
shadows and stuff like that, Like
you know, there's water. There are

2074
01:56:34.439 --> 01:56:39.119
a couple of screenshots in that story
characters light. Yep, it's just basically

2075
01:56:39.439 --> 01:56:43.159
unfinished swine with no game. Plus
it's just a white white screen. That's

2076
01:56:43.199 --> 01:56:46.560
why the controls. Who's being mean
now? What to who? It's not

2077
01:56:46.840 --> 01:56:49.720
somebody not in this room, but
okay, that might be listening to this

2078
01:56:50.199 --> 01:56:59.720
Who whoever made this game port iOS
kelvin sad somewhere because of you. Yeah,

2079
01:57:00.159 --> 01:57:01.920
man, it's gonna come back to
haunt you someday. Sure, my

2080
01:57:02.000 --> 01:57:05.399
defty business with them? With who
you keep saying them like, it's I

2081
01:57:05.439 --> 01:57:10.680
don't know who you're talking about.
It's not making the eyos splor No,

2082
01:57:10.800 --> 01:57:15.600
I'm talking about future games. I
have no problem with the BioShock iosport go

2083
01:57:15.680 --> 01:57:18.199
crazy, all right. Well,
with that out of the way, I

2084
01:57:18.319 --> 01:57:20.600
guess I don't know what you were. Yeah, it's it's a weird release,

2085
01:57:20.640 --> 01:57:24.199
and I wish they hadn't built people
up to think that something new might

2086
01:57:24.239 --> 01:57:28.000
be happening. Although I don't know
that I want another BioShock game, I

2087
01:57:28.760 --> 01:57:31.600
M I don't know ever, like
not for a while. I don't have

2088
01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:34.720
to call it BioShock like I I
was kind of bummed at first, and

2089
01:57:34.800 --> 01:57:39.439
just BioShock Infinite being BioShock like.
It seemed like that could be a new

2090
01:57:39.439 --> 01:57:45.319
ip just as well. But yeah, sky City USA, Dan Record Cruising

2091
01:57:45.399 --> 01:57:49.039
USA, BioShock Infinite cross over,
Okay, into it. I'm listening sky

2092
01:57:49.119 --> 01:57:51.720
Hooks, Bikini Modles waving flags.
Let's do it, all right? Wow,

2093
01:57:54.000 --> 01:58:00.399
where were you making the game?
Okay? Kind of crash catch all

2094
01:58:00.479 --> 01:58:06.840
right, that's all the news,
really not positive news that you sort of

2095
01:58:08.079 --> 01:58:10.199
led me to believe. It's all
the news that's fit to print. Well,

2096
01:58:10.239 --> 01:58:12.279
that's what I had to work with. You know, I don't make

2097
01:58:12.319 --> 01:58:14.840
the news. I just read it. But you know what you do make?

2098
01:58:15.039 --> 01:58:18.920
What's that email emails? I don't
make those either. Oh I just

2099
01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:21.720
read those. Man, What do
you even do? I'm just kind of

2100
01:58:21.760 --> 01:58:25.800
a mouthpiece, you know. Put
some words in front of me and I

2101
01:58:25.880 --> 01:58:30.640
read them out loud, yea such
as, oh man, there's a lot

2102
01:58:30.720 --> 01:58:31.880
this week. I don't even know
where to pick or where to start.

2103
01:58:33.600 --> 01:58:42.319
How about Wow? This guy?
This guy included a explicit instructions in all

2104
01:58:42.439 --> 01:58:46.359
caps, bold italics, red colored
text. Wait did you say these are

2105
01:58:47.079 --> 01:58:53.000
their emails? Okay, thank you, thank you, Drew Music, I

2106
01:58:53.079 --> 01:58:55.720
need to hang out. It's okay. I'm just triple checking what I can't

2107
01:58:55.800 --> 01:59:01.279
read. It's color coordinated. Not
exactly read the red text, but after

2108
01:59:01.359 --> 01:59:04.640
the blue text. Okay, I
can't read his email address or the name

2109
01:59:04.760 --> 01:59:10.720
of his firm, who ever firm? Okay, weird. Okay, here

2110
01:59:10.760 --> 01:59:14.079
we go see a lawyer. Hello, most esteem jianbombcast crew. In your

2111
01:59:14.159 --> 01:59:16.279
July twenty nine, twenty fourteen podcast, you talked a short bit about when

2112
01:59:16.359 --> 01:59:20.600
The Rock tried to change his branding
to just Dwayne Johnson but was not completely

2113
01:59:20.640 --> 01:59:24.720
successful in doing so. I would
like to point out that my full name

2114
01:59:24.840 --> 01:59:28.880
is Cameron Dwayne Johnson. Holy shit, my middle name is from my father,

2115
01:59:29.319 --> 01:59:33.000
Dwayne Johnson. No, not the
wrestler The Rock Dwayne Johnson, but

2116
01:59:33.039 --> 01:59:40.039
a much more formidable opponent, Dwayne
Johnson, certified public accountant. Back when

2117
01:59:40.079 --> 01:59:43.520
The Rock was trying to rebrand,
one of his representatives actually called my father

2118
01:59:43.640 --> 01:59:47.439
and tried to purchase his domain name
www dot Dwayne Johnson dot com. Amazing.

2119
01:59:48.359 --> 01:59:51.840
Apparently they did not offer enough money
because my father still holds the domain.

2120
01:59:53.239 --> 01:59:56.800
See my email signature, blow is
evidence. As promised, I will

2121
01:59:56.840 --> 01:59:59.960
not actually say the name of his
firm or any of the contact information,

2122
02:00:00.039 --> 02:00:02.159
and you can probably just go to
Dwyne Johnson dot com. Well, now,

2123
02:00:02.800 --> 02:00:04.880
I don't know what's at that site, but I read the email as

2124
02:00:04.920 --> 02:00:08.439
written, so I think that's fine. I don't know, I just think

2125
02:00:08.479 --> 02:00:10.840
it's kind of that's cool, It's
kind of funny. It's great. You

2126
02:00:10.920 --> 02:00:14.039
know that joke hinges on saying the
name Dwayne Johnson dot com. What that

2127
02:00:14.079 --> 02:00:16.640
said? He shouldn't have sent the
end. Uh yeah, how we get

2128
02:00:16.680 --> 02:00:20.239
there? Wait? What is what's
happening here? Just building relationships, building

2129
02:00:20.319 --> 02:00:25.159
value, Dwayne Johnson, A little
little brush with the rock. That was

2130
02:00:25.239 --> 02:00:30.640
his catchphrase when he was a wrestler, building relationships, building value, stone

2131
02:00:30.720 --> 02:00:36.840
cold. Here we go with emails. I'm just fighting an accountant right now.

2132
02:00:36.960 --> 02:00:40.239
I'm talking. Yes, great,
you want to No? No,

2133
02:00:40.319 --> 02:00:43.239
I give you a minute. No, No, it's great. Multitask Okay,

2134
02:00:43.439 --> 02:00:45.680
here's an email from Brian, subject
line THHQ st up with them?

2135
02:00:46.680 --> 02:00:54.000
So what's up? What's Q?
Your t h Q? Where you ATQ?

2136
02:00:55.520 --> 02:00:59.119
What's up? Liquidated assets? So
that's actually the question. Okay.

2137
02:00:59.159 --> 02:01:00.960
Today, while browsing the Xbox Marketplace, I noticed the Red Faction was on

2138
02:01:01.039 --> 02:01:04.039
sale, and that got me wondering, Now the THU was bankrupt and dead,

2139
02:01:04.399 --> 02:01:09.079
who controls the menial shit like sales
of their digital content? Is it

2140
02:01:09.159 --> 02:01:13.039
some sort of debtor consorum that controls
thus ruins like a puppet trying to finagle

2141
02:01:13.039 --> 02:01:15.760
the last few dollars out of its
remaining franchises, or is it the individual

2142
02:01:15.800 --> 02:01:19.600
company that bought the Red Faction franchise, did anyone even bother or perhaps a

2143
02:01:19.760 --> 02:01:26.680
shadow THQ skeleton crew operating in a
storage container somewhere in Nevada being forced into

2144
02:01:26.720 --> 02:01:29.279
slave labor until their debts are paid. Saudis, First of all, if

2145
02:01:29.279 --> 02:01:30.159
you're gonna work at a storage container, you should be on a boat,

2146
02:01:30.640 --> 02:01:33.520
because, like being Nevada, the
storge container just means you're cooking. Yes,

2147
02:01:33.640 --> 02:01:38.399
you probably wouldn't last time long,
or you have arcade machines. Yeah,

2148
02:01:38.760 --> 02:01:42.920
either way, I thought everything got
bought up, you got it out.

2149
02:01:42.960 --> 02:01:45.039
So the answer is like someone owns
whatever you're thinking about from THHQ,

2150
02:01:45.439 --> 02:01:48.039
and it's probably a combination of those
things you just said, which is like

2151
02:01:48.319 --> 02:01:53.079
specific EPs were bought out, Yeah, moved over, like Crytech took home

2152
02:01:53.159 --> 02:01:55.239
Front, which then now has been
sold a deep Silver. This is why,

2153
02:01:55.359 --> 02:01:57.520
like making video games that have come
out in the past, it's actually

2154
02:01:57.520 --> 02:02:01.279
really difficult sometimes and then there's some
sort of debtors consortion for like remaining IP

2155
02:02:01.439 --> 02:02:03.920
that was not sold up. That's
why I read this email, isn't I

2156
02:02:03.960 --> 02:02:06.119
could have googled this probably don't.
I don't know the answer, but I

2157
02:02:06.199 --> 02:02:10.720
can't remember what happened to Red Faction
because I know that was one that seemed

2158
02:02:10.800 --> 02:02:14.680
like it was not really a lot
of interested parties in that one, Like

2159
02:02:14.720 --> 02:02:17.199
if you remember, THQ itself had
made a big show of saying like we're

2160
02:02:17.239 --> 02:02:19.840
going to retire Red Faction for a
while, this is no longer a priority

2161
02:02:20.000 --> 02:02:25.760
after that last one tanked, And
I don't know that anybody bought that one

2162
02:02:25.840 --> 02:02:27.479
up, So if it didn't get
bought up, then yeah, I don't

2163
02:02:27.479 --> 02:02:30.239
really know how to answer that question, but it may have gotten I think

2164
02:02:30.319 --> 02:02:32.520
Norriic Games bought most of the remaining
THQ stuff. Yeah, and I think

2165
02:02:32.520 --> 02:02:34.800
that I thought I thought I saw
a story and this is I have no

2166
02:02:34.960 --> 02:02:38.880
edit. It's true out that the
Nordic Games is like publishing things under the

2167
02:02:38.920 --> 02:02:42.439
THHQ name. That's kind of weird
or like they were able to do that

2168
02:02:42.479 --> 02:02:45.199
if they wanted to. I don't
know. It was confusing, that's a

2169
02:02:45.239 --> 02:02:48.239
little but these things are like this
is where like doing quote unquote like news

2170
02:02:48.319 --> 02:02:53.199
reporting about an industry is really weird
because like that information is not all really

2171
02:02:53.239 --> 02:02:56.960
transparent and easily available, and also
to be completely fair to the end user

2172
02:02:57.039 --> 02:03:00.279
of a game, like it doesn't
really matter ninety nine percent at the time,

2173
02:03:00.520 --> 02:03:02.239
you know, but if you're really
into video games, you know,

2174
02:03:02.359 --> 02:03:06.079
sometimes the ins and outs of the
business side can be kind of fascinating.

2175
02:03:06.359 --> 02:03:10.199
Oh no, it's it's it's an
interesting topic. I'm staying like the information

2176
02:03:10.239 --> 02:03:13.640
is like, oh, let me
just go like find that on business Wikipedia,

2177
02:03:13.800 --> 02:03:15.720
where like all these things are reported
by I don't have any reason to

2178
02:03:15.800 --> 02:03:16.520
tell you, you know, right, as long as if you're paying your

2179
02:03:16.520 --> 02:03:20.399
money and getting the product that you're
promised in return, that's kind of the

2180
02:03:20.439 --> 02:03:25.319
beginning and the end of the transaction. Yeah, I'm just looking. I

2181
02:03:25.359 --> 02:03:28.279
don't see anything about like a clear
answer your question. Yeah you check,

2182
02:03:28.560 --> 02:03:30.560
John, I thought you were still
look at Daye Johnson Dwayn Johnson has no

2183
02:03:30.600 --> 02:03:35.199
idea he did all the book keeping
for It's not it's not asked Dwayne Johnson

2184
02:03:35.279 --> 02:03:38.920
dot com. It's not like he's
gonna give you anything you want. I'm

2185
02:03:38.920 --> 02:03:44.000
sorry I was not asked, Dwyne
Johnson dot com dot somebody has already signed

2186
02:03:44.039 --> 02:03:47.600
up for that now exactly in the
last five seconds. Uh. Jack has

2187
02:03:47.640 --> 02:03:50.319
a simple question. Hello friends,
if I have children. Am I allowed

2188
02:03:50.319 --> 02:03:54.960
to name them after all the different
Mega Man bosses? Yeah? I mean

2189
02:03:55.039 --> 02:03:59.319
allowed is the wrong word. You're
allowed to probably legally fucking don't. Yeah,

2190
02:04:00.199 --> 02:04:03.079
services, especially if they're girls,
you know, I guess Calash woman.

2191
02:04:03.159 --> 02:04:08.000
I don't was there can only get
around to having a one of the

2192
02:04:08.079 --> 02:04:11.119
newer ones splash one. I didn't
realize that. Jeez, flash girl,

2193
02:04:11.159 --> 02:04:14.039
I think it was a woman.
Yep. Uh, still don't do it.

2194
02:04:14.680 --> 02:04:16.319
It'd be kind of cool. I
am not crazy. Uh. In

2195
02:04:16.479 --> 02:04:19.640
June, THHQ, the trademark for
T was acquired by Nordic Games, and

2196
02:04:19.640 --> 02:04:24.600
they said that they would be publishing
games under the teaching Wow, I didn't

2197
02:04:24.600 --> 02:04:27.439
know that a story I'm polygone by
Charlie HALLI said that, Wow, I

2198
02:04:27.479 --> 02:04:30.640
am not making that up. Nordic
Games like it is t HQ in a

2199
02:04:30.800 --> 02:04:32.000
in a manner of the name,
which which means, I guess if you

2200
02:04:32.079 --> 02:04:35.279
have questions about about a piece of
IP that has not been clearly stated,

2201
02:04:35.560 --> 02:04:39.479
I would go as I guess.
So yeah, they kind of like when

2202
02:04:39.520 --> 02:04:42.479
infagrams became a tary way back win
and like if you want to know if

2203
02:04:42.479 --> 02:04:45.079
you should name your kids after the
Mega Man crew you should talk to Nordic

2204
02:04:45.119 --> 02:04:49.079
Games or Dawyne Johns. He can
also help you out at g of COURSI

2205
02:04:50.119 --> 02:04:54.560
building the list of help him.
Yes, they will take your kids away

2206
02:04:54.560 --> 02:04:58.920
though if you name him something weird, well they's. There was a there

2207
02:04:59.039 --> 02:05:05.239
was a family in Australia that named
their nude Warren daughter Tallula does the hula

2208
02:05:05.399 --> 02:05:11.520
from Hawaii. That was the full
first name. That's Australia and I'm gonna

2209
02:05:11.560 --> 02:05:14.720
make you from Australia. There's a
kid named turrok to win that tur Rock

2210
02:05:14.760 --> 02:05:16.960
competition back in the day. There's
a kid named stone Cold. I know

2211
02:05:17.039 --> 02:05:20.159
about that. You can do that. That's those are cool names. Rock

2212
02:05:20.199 --> 02:05:25.520
and stone Cold, Yes, tur
Rock. No one is listening the kid

2213
02:05:25.680 --> 02:05:34.560
named tur Rock stone Cold Rock Dwayne
Turroc Johnson. I would watch. I

2214
02:05:34.680 --> 02:05:45.960
would watch The Hunter, Dwayne Johnson
riding dinosaurs and in business business casual casual

2215
02:05:46.039 --> 02:05:51.960
Fridays. Holy shit, wow Wayne
too rock Yeah, joke of the show.

2216
02:05:53.159 --> 02:05:59.439
Hey I did it, Bill writes
in subject line doing my part,

2217
02:06:00.479 --> 02:06:03.600
Hello Giant Bomb crew Sands, Jeff. I thought I'd give Brad a slight

2218
02:06:03.640 --> 02:06:08.680
assistant his hosting duties this week.
The email addresses BombCast at giant bomb dot

2219
02:06:08.720 --> 02:06:15.239
com. Damn it, I need
what is it podcast? Bombast? We've

2220
02:06:15.279 --> 02:06:16.960
all have been doing the show for
like eight thousand. I don't pay attention

2221
02:06:16.960 --> 02:06:21.680
to that shit. I didn't have
to say it. It's bombcasting child.

2222
02:06:23.520 --> 02:06:27.479
Thanks Bill, that's an amazing troll. I remember that. One of these

2223
02:06:27.560 --> 02:06:32.840
days I flagged it because I knew
I was gonna forget all Right, Taco

2224
02:06:32.920 --> 02:06:38.920
Bell fire sauce. Yeah, Taco
Bell fired the sauce. No, no

2225
02:06:39.159 --> 02:06:43.720
fire sauce. That's their hottest sauce, right, isn't There isn't a tear

2226
02:06:43.760 --> 02:06:45.520
above fire? Right? No,
No, it's just fire. They have

2227
02:06:45.560 --> 02:06:47.920
a regular hot right mild fire.
Oh, there's no medium. They have

2228
02:06:48.039 --> 02:06:50.760
the green Verda stuff. It's so
hot as medium. And then fire is

2229
02:06:50.800 --> 02:06:55.359
hot, okay, fires fire.
This one goes to the left. No,

2230
02:06:55.399 --> 02:06:59.039
it's hot, it's fire, but
call it it is the spiciest.

2231
02:06:59.119 --> 02:07:02.479
They call it fire. But it's
hot on Taco Bell branding. So fire

2232
02:07:02.600 --> 02:07:05.399
is fire? Can you live moss
the dance? Okay, we're gonna allow

2233
02:07:05.439 --> 02:07:09.159
me to reiterate what David has to
say. Fuck you Dan, Okay,

2234
02:07:09.319 --> 02:07:12.359
that fire sauce isn't free. We
have to keep track of that stuff.

2235
02:07:12.359 --> 02:07:15.479
If everyone just takes thirty packs with
each order, that shit will run up

2236
02:07:15.479 --> 02:07:17.239
our food cost. Let me ask, what's use Tyler, Use one per

2237
02:07:17.319 --> 02:07:21.039
item so you can taste the food, you monster. Tyler. His name

2238
02:07:21.159 --> 02:07:26.000
David, same thing, the same
David. Do you have a button on

2239
02:07:26.079 --> 02:07:30.239
your little register there that charges me
for your fire sauce? No? No,

2240
02:07:30.640 --> 02:07:31.880
no, David doesn't. It's the
middle man here. I can take

2241
02:07:31.920 --> 02:07:35.199
as much as I want as a
paying and loyal Taco Bell customer, right,

2242
02:07:35.359 --> 02:07:39.439
And I'm not gonna feel bad about
David probably works at talk about Corporate

2243
02:07:39.439 --> 02:07:41.439
and he's look at the overhead cost
of all the time. And here I

2244
02:07:41.520 --> 02:07:45.479
am extolling the virtues of Taco Bell
on this podcast, on my Twitter all

2245
02:07:45.520 --> 02:07:48.760
the time, because it is fantastic
food. You San Francisco, Now you

2246
02:07:48.840 --> 02:07:51.279
were surrounded by the best Mexican food
in the world. I'll say this,

2247
02:07:51.479 --> 02:07:56.720
I have had some fantastic Mexican food
here. That burrito from Las Campanero's thing

2248
02:07:56.840 --> 02:08:01.079
was great. Taco Bell is still
maybe the most would have ever had say

2249
02:08:01.159 --> 02:08:03.159
it the two words out loud.
You should not say, Davie, it's

2250
02:08:03.239 --> 02:08:07.920
right, you're a monster. I
can't. Don't. There's not much really

2251
02:08:07.960 --> 02:08:09.840
anything better than Taco Bell. I
mean, there's a really good food out

2252
02:08:09.840 --> 02:08:13.600
there, and San Francisco does have
amazing burrito I mean maybe maybe if it's

2253
02:08:13.680 --> 02:08:18.079
fourth meal and you're really running out
its fourth meal bread. Okay, I

2254
02:08:18.119 --> 02:08:22.479
guess if you're eating if you're watching
Star Wars at three in the morning.

2255
02:08:22.560 --> 02:08:24.800
There's not a lot of other options. The question is whether meals one through

2256
02:08:24.840 --> 02:08:26.840
three or also talk about Yeah,
you know how good it is if you

2257
02:08:26.960 --> 02:08:31.119
had the actual like fourth meal drunk
in late night Taco Bell and you wake

2258
02:08:31.199 --> 02:08:33.720
up hung over in the morning because
nothing's better when you're hung over than Taco

2259
02:08:33.800 --> 02:08:35.680
Bell, and you realize way too
much because you were drunk, and you've

2260
02:08:35.680 --> 02:08:39.800
got a shipload in your fridge and
it reheats so good it was never cooked

2261
02:08:39.840 --> 02:08:43.920
in the first place. Yeah,
cooked a perfection. So so you've eaten

2262
02:08:43.960 --> 02:08:48.520
fourth meal of course, yes,
all right, that's every time me and

2263
02:08:48.520 --> 02:08:50.600
my dad are drunk, he just
immediately wants to go through it. We

2264
02:08:50.680 --> 02:08:54.039
get like taxis that take us through
Taco Bell all the time. Clarify you're

2265
02:08:54.039 --> 02:08:58.680
not drunk driving. Also, we
will taxi or uber through Taco Bell that

2266
02:08:58.760 --> 02:09:03.439
has happened a lot. And White
Castle he does white castles in Minnesota.

2267
02:09:03.560 --> 02:09:11.000
That's amazing. Yeah, I can't
all right learn new things every week.

2268
02:09:11.239 --> 02:09:16.079
Wow, Hey guys, this is
from Cody, long time listener here.

2269
02:09:16.079 --> 02:09:18.119
I love you guys. I just
watched The Last of Us One Night Live

2270
02:09:18.159 --> 02:09:22.319
and it was fantastic. The talk
the Last of Us One Night Live.

2271
02:09:22.319 --> 02:09:24.319
I guess I could have brought that
up in news. Actually, they did

2272
02:09:24.359 --> 02:09:28.960
a stage reading of like the scenes
from Last of Us. It wasn't like

2273
02:09:28.039 --> 02:09:31.279
it wasn't like all the cut scenes, wasn't I don't think all of them.

2274
02:09:31.319 --> 02:09:33.279
Did it tell like a kind of
a complete story, though, Like,

2275
02:09:33.319 --> 02:09:35.479
could you follow a narrative? If
you had? It might have been

2276
02:09:35.520 --> 02:09:37.239
all this, all the cuts if
you hadn't already played the game? Did

2277
02:09:37.279 --> 02:09:39.359
it kind of like flow as a
story? I think? So? I

2278
02:09:39.399 --> 02:09:41.039
didn't. I didn't. I didn't
watch it. I was out of it.

2279
02:09:41.199 --> 02:09:41.720
Yeah, I still need to go
back and catch it. I was

2280
02:09:41.760 --> 02:09:45.359
we I think we were POD?
Was it the original actors? Yeah?

2281
02:09:45.439 --> 02:09:48.079
Yeah, it was the voice actors
and all those guys, but blocked out

2282
02:09:48.079 --> 02:09:54.000
as a stage production. Wow,
with little sets and they even Neil Druckman

2283
02:09:54.119 --> 02:09:56.479
from from naughty Dog wrote a short
little like epilog scene to take place like

2284
02:09:56.520 --> 02:10:01.319
a few weeks after the end of
the game that really they performed exclusively for

2285
02:10:01.399 --> 02:10:05.039
the stage. It was like Jeff
Keeley hosting like a combination behind the scenes

2286
02:10:05.079 --> 02:10:09.760
look slash live action play. That
sounds really cool. The whole thing.

2287
02:10:09.800 --> 02:10:11.840
The whole thing is up on YouTube. Yeh, can you watch it?

2288
02:10:11.000 --> 02:10:13.399
Cool, super intense. Yeah,
I mean it's you know, it's also

2289
02:10:13.479 --> 02:10:16.520
like just a smart piece of marketing
for this remastered edition. Yeah it is.

2290
02:10:16.800 --> 02:10:20.800
Everybody's already talking about the game again
anyway, but like it regardless of

2291
02:10:20.880 --> 02:10:24.039
that new version coming out, Like
it's just it's a neat piece of fan

2292
02:10:24.159 --> 02:10:26.039
service. Yeah, all right.
Although I will I will say much like

2293
02:10:26.319 --> 02:10:31.159
the uh the Steve Aoki concert that
they did on Twitch, the Twitch chat

2294
02:10:31.319 --> 02:10:37.600
of that was imare because all Twitch
chats are basically waking nightmares pretty much.

2295
02:10:37.720 --> 02:10:39.479
It's like, oh, this is
great come by people being like just cursing

2296
02:10:39.520 --> 02:10:43.920
and screaming at each other. The
best is I watched so I watched that

2297
02:10:43.960 --> 02:10:46.880
Steve Aoki like the first concert they
streamed on Twitch, and it was just

2298
02:10:48.119 --> 02:10:52.479
people doing the little like dude with
two arms, dancing emotic like emoticon tesselated

2299
02:10:52.520 --> 02:10:56.039
for an entire line, and everyone's
just posting the same thing to be like

2300
02:10:56.239 --> 02:10:58.239
I'm also dancing, and I'm like, no, you're not, motherfucker,

2301
02:10:58.319 --> 02:11:01.960
you are at your keyboard. We're
type with your fingers. Yeah, that

2302
02:11:01.079 --> 02:11:03.920
kind of chat is weird to me
because, like, I mean, chat

2303
02:11:03.960 --> 02:11:05.760
is almost a misnomer because you were
not having a discourse with anybody, like

2304
02:11:07.000 --> 02:11:09.479
scrolling so fast. You're like you're
like screaming into a wind tunnel with like

2305
02:11:09.600 --> 02:11:13.720
thirty thousand other people and nobody can
hear what anybody else is saying. You

2306
02:11:13.760 --> 02:11:16.239
just described the Internet basically, I
guess so, but this is just it

2307
02:11:16.399 --> 02:11:22.079
in like kind of something just still
like hyperactive form, the Taco Bell chat

2308
02:11:22.199 --> 02:11:24.600
of internet chat. Yeah, traded
goodness, diction, yep, perfection.

2309
02:11:26.079 --> 02:11:28.680
All right, So yeah, he
he loved the one night Life thing and

2310
02:11:28.720 --> 02:11:31.680
we should all go watch that.
Was that the gist of his No,

2311
02:11:31.800 --> 02:11:35.000
no, no, it's just the
leadend. The talk of the movie has

2312
02:11:35.079 --> 02:11:37.840
me worried, though so much of
the characters identities are tied up with the

2313
02:11:37.880 --> 02:11:41.399
wonderful formances of Troy Baker and Ashley
Johnson in my mind. I love Mazie

2314
02:11:41.399 --> 02:11:43.840
Williams and Game of Thrones. She's
the one that was cast as Ellie in

2315
02:11:43.840 --> 02:11:48.119
the movie. A yes, but
it just isn't quite the same. You

2316
02:11:48.159 --> 02:11:52.399
know. Previous video game movies have
been based on games with far fewer lines

2317
02:11:52.439 --> 02:11:54.720
of voice dialogue and lesser narratives in
general. How do you think this is

2318
02:11:54.800 --> 02:11:58.000
going to be handled? Is there
a right way to handle it or just

2319
02:11:58.119 --> 02:12:01.199
something that I'll have to get over
Let's get over. It's tough. I

2320
02:12:01.239 --> 02:12:03.039
don't know. Yeah, I mean
I gotta hurt a game, I mean

2321
02:12:03.079 --> 02:12:05.600
just play well. A movie gets
well, you know, I can kind

2322
02:12:05.640 --> 02:12:07.560
of see where he's come from.
I mean some of it, it's practically

2323
02:12:07.600 --> 02:12:11.439
a movie already. Yeah. Some
of it depends on what they decide to

2324
02:12:11.520 --> 02:12:13.680
do with the movie, you know, Like is the movie just going to

2325
02:12:13.720 --> 02:12:16.520
be a retelling, like not word
for word, because the game is much

2326
02:12:16.560 --> 02:12:18.279
longer than a movie could be.
But like, are they just going to

2327
02:12:18.359 --> 02:12:22.479
lift lines of dialogue from the game
and kind of like tell the story point

2328
02:12:22.640 --> 02:12:26.039
for point and beat for beat or
is it going are they going to try

2329
02:12:26.079 --> 02:12:28.880
to turn this into its own thing? I mean, it'll have to be

2330
02:12:28.920 --> 02:12:31.199
streamined a little bit right like it, so it can actually be a linear

2331
02:12:31.279 --> 02:12:35.119
narrative that makes sense, but and
they'll be choreography instead of interactive moments which

2332
02:12:35.199 --> 02:12:37.560
dan to dance. Point like,
this is not going to take away the

2333
02:12:37.640 --> 02:12:41.560
game you love and the performances you
thought were great. If you don't want

2334
02:12:41.600 --> 02:12:43.720
to see this movie when it comes
out like whatever two and a half years

2335
02:12:43.800 --> 02:12:46.520
from now, and I don't know
they announced the data or whatever. It's

2336
02:12:46.520 --> 02:12:48.319
a ways away, I think,
right, Oh, you mean, just

2337
02:12:48.560 --> 02:12:52.199
like how a Terminator two was the
last Terminator movie ever made and then nobody

2338
02:12:52.279 --> 02:12:54.159
ever watched. If you want me
to bring it in, I didn't.

2339
02:12:54.159 --> 02:12:56.199
I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't see those at all,

2340
02:12:56.319 --> 02:12:58.760
Hunt, those don't exist to me. Was it the point? Did you

2341
02:12:58.760 --> 02:13:01.439
actually say Terminator through is up better
movie than Terminator two? In one?

2342
02:13:01.640 --> 02:13:03.880
No? No, okay, I'm
with him on two. Sure, I'm

2343
02:13:03.920 --> 02:13:07.399
totally movie ever made. He said
to Terminated three is better than terminatir one?

2344
02:13:07.880 --> 02:13:11.800
I did, okay, I just
I mean, like, I bring

2345
02:13:11.880 --> 02:13:15.439
that up because, just like you
suggested, I looked to Terminator three and

2346
02:13:15.479 --> 02:13:16.880
I was like, I don't want
any part of that, so I just

2347
02:13:16.000 --> 02:13:18.399
show it chose to never watch.
I just remember there being a reaction at

2348
02:13:18.439 --> 02:13:20.720
some point when you were listening to
Dan and you were kind of like yeah,

2349
02:13:22.039 --> 02:13:24.520
yeah, and then he said something
you went like fuck no, like

2350
02:13:24.960 --> 02:13:28.119
abandoned him. It was like you
were towing his wrath, and then instead

2351
02:13:28.119 --> 02:13:31.520
of just pushing his raft away,
you like blew it up on fire.

2352
02:13:31.640 --> 02:13:35.239
Uh in this in the river of
the story. So yeah, I mean,

2353
02:13:35.319 --> 02:13:37.000
if you don't like, I mean, the game is going to be

2354
02:13:37.079 --> 02:13:39.079
great, and play it remastered,
it's great, go by. It's not

2355
02:13:39.079 --> 02:13:41.439
going to combine to lead it off
your system. If you know the movie

2356
02:13:41.479 --> 02:13:45.520
comes out, it's a program I'm
proposing I suppose though, you know,

2357
02:13:45.600 --> 02:13:48.520
if you if you like the game
that much, you probably want to check

2358
02:13:48.560 --> 02:13:50.520
out the movie and see what it's
like. But you're enthusiasm for something to

2359
02:13:50.560 --> 02:13:54.279
be to hopefully be good, should
not preclude you from wanting it to be

2360
02:13:54.399 --> 02:13:56.760
made right. In the worst case
scenarios, the thing is not good or

2361
02:13:56.760 --> 02:13:58.800
not even good. It's it's not
even wanting it to be good. It's

2362
02:13:58.800 --> 02:14:01.960
one to be exactly like the other
things that you like. You know,

2363
02:14:01.119 --> 02:14:05.520
like let's see let's see who else
the cast, Let's see who the director

2364
02:14:05.640 --> 02:14:09.079
is, Sam Rickey, isn't it? Isn't that I missed that? I

2365
02:14:09.119 --> 02:14:11.199
thought it was like him sitting next
to Neil Druffon? Was the photo I

2366
02:14:11.199 --> 02:14:13.840
saw from comic Really, now I'm
gonna go look that up and make sure

2367
02:14:13.840 --> 02:14:16.800
I'm not making news that sounds crazy. I don't even know what that would

2368
02:14:16.800 --> 02:14:20.439
be. Uh, John Jake exclusive
news on Twitter. That's my fear right

2369
02:14:22.000 --> 02:14:24.960
Last of Us movie? The thing
we're streaming this live? Just no going

2370
02:14:24.039 --> 02:14:30.960
back? Oh my god, what's
gonna happen? Uh see, I'm worried

2371
02:14:30.960 --> 02:14:33.319
I'm gonna clicking the wrong thing?
Is there? Cast rumor as fucking man

2372
02:14:33.520 --> 02:14:37.880
live? Googling? Anyway? Yeah? Whatever, Well, let's see what

2373
02:14:39.000 --> 02:14:43.159
the other particulars are besides you know
who the cast, and yeah, we'll

2374
02:14:43.159 --> 02:14:46.239
see who writes it and in what
style they write it and what kind of

2375
02:14:46.239 --> 02:14:48.520
story they couldn't try to tell?
You know? And if it sucks,

2376
02:14:48.560 --> 02:14:50.960
who gives a shit? Last of
Us is still great? Now you'll always

2377
02:14:50.960 --> 02:14:54.479
have the game. Who would you
cast as Joel? I think Brolin's gotta

2378
02:14:54.479 --> 02:14:56.720
be the go to, right,
really, Josh Brolin? I got to

2379
02:14:56.760 --> 02:15:00.760
see that? Yeah, yeah,
the guy for that because I'm shuffle's kind

2380
02:15:00.760 --> 02:15:01.880
of an old character. He's like
mid forties, right, Yeah, well,

2381
02:15:01.880 --> 02:15:07.239
I mean he's probably like at least
mid thirties because he was a father

2382
02:15:07.439 --> 02:15:11.720
with a like almost pubescent daughter before
the outbreak, and then you jump ahead

2383
02:15:11.760 --> 02:15:18.359
twenty years, so he was like
mid thirties in the beginning after the outbreak.

2384
02:15:18.479 --> 02:15:22.439
Yeah, he's okay, you know, hey, man, I got

2385
02:15:22.479 --> 02:15:24.520
you Sam, pretty great hair.
Doesn't mean you're in fifties, all right,

2386
02:15:26.800 --> 02:15:30.960
he's producing in that trap Okay,
Okay, he was on stage,

2387
02:15:30.960 --> 02:15:33.640
but yeah, that's why I misunderstoodble
Okay, Tomakam was a busy week guys.

2388
02:15:35.439 --> 02:15:37.439
Yeah, I like that choice.
That sounds he'd be good. Yeah.

2389
02:15:37.840 --> 02:15:43.600
Sure, he's gruff, he's taskiturn
or he candy. He's an alcoholic.

2390
02:15:45.359 --> 02:15:46.600
Yeah, he gets in a bunch
of fights and stuff. Hear about

2391
02:15:46.600 --> 02:15:54.640
it on TMZ. Yeah, wow, Dan's hero cool, gets some fights,

2392
02:15:54.760 --> 02:15:58.239
drinks too much. Something to aspire
to Dan's been talked about TMZ.

2393
02:16:00.119 --> 02:16:07.039
That is trip. We'll talk about
that later. Uh, speaking of public

2394
02:16:07.119 --> 02:16:13.800
figures to aspire to fuck, jose
Canseco just ask Dan Reicher that the hole

2395
02:16:13.840 --> 02:16:20.720
email it might as well be It's
from Michael in Kansas City, jose Canseco

2396
02:16:20.840 --> 02:16:24.119
was a dick. Dan can tell
you this. Every time I hear that

2397
02:16:24.279 --> 02:16:28.760
roid fueled, talentless mush mouth talk
about baseball steroids or dissing my hometown Kansas

2398
02:16:28.800 --> 02:16:33.040
City Royals, I think to myself, what soul sucking demon gave jose Consaco

2399
02:16:33.159 --> 02:16:37.719
the right to live? Then I
remember that Dan wrote entour book about raising

2400
02:16:37.760 --> 02:16:41.760
more money than jose Can Saco.
I wrote two chapters. Okay, a

2401
02:16:41.799 --> 02:16:46.200
lot were contributed from Kasey Malone and
friends. In the A I failed on

2402
02:16:46.239 --> 02:16:50.799
the chapter I was supposed to did
this is this is the greatest crowdfunding endeavor

2403
02:16:50.879 --> 02:16:54.799
that has ever been endeavored. My
question is Dan anymore plans to fuck with

2404
02:16:54.879 --> 02:16:58.319
jose Can Saco, especially now that
you're in the Bay Area and to the

2405
02:16:58.360 --> 02:17:01.399
rest of the Gabon crew and particular
celebrity that has wronged you that you'd love

2406
02:17:01.440 --> 02:17:05.959
to get back at. I have
not thought about further Conseco stuff because I

2407
02:17:07.040 --> 02:17:09.360
think I man, I probably got
as much out of that as I could.

2408
02:17:09.440 --> 02:17:13.959
I got he wrote the foreword to
Air Force Gator two, and that

2409
02:17:13.079 --> 02:17:16.440
got me on ESPN, which probably
sold a few more copies than I normally

2410
02:17:16.479 --> 02:17:20.000
would have. And then I made
more money by making that crowdfunder that was

2411
02:17:20.120 --> 02:17:24.879
way better than his. That made
me three thousand dollars and got me in

2412
02:17:24.920 --> 02:17:30.120
a lot of trouble. And then
the book itself didn't really sell. But

2413
02:17:30.200 --> 02:17:33.600
the whole point was it was a
crowdfunder. Sure was that made me a

2414
02:17:33.639 --> 02:17:35.799
lot of Wait, this guy wrote
the forward to your book. Yeah,

2415
02:17:37.200 --> 02:17:39.399
they were once best friends. No, I always thought he was an idiot.

2416
02:17:41.040 --> 02:17:45.520
At no point during when didn't he
wrong you? He never wronged me.

2417
02:17:45.799 --> 02:17:50.360
I think I think I think his
Twitter feed was classified a crime against

2418
02:17:50.399 --> 02:17:54.280
humanity. His Twitter feed is terrible
and it always has been, And so

2419
02:17:54.399 --> 02:17:56.840
I would constantly reply to him,
just be like, you're you're a fucking

2420
02:17:56.879 --> 02:17:58.040
idiot, Like you're an idiot,
shut up, no one cares. Everyone

2421
02:17:58.079 --> 02:18:01.440
thinks you're stupid. Like I was
just brutal to him. It's just over

2422
02:18:01.520 --> 02:18:05.120
and over, And after doing this
one hundred or two hundred times, he

2423
02:18:05.239 --> 02:18:07.879
suddenly starts responding to me, and
he's saying, like, Hey, Dan,

2424
02:18:07.959 --> 02:18:11.760
I see you wrote air Force Gator. How many copies an Air Force

2425
02:18:11.840 --> 02:18:13.680
Gator? Sell? I was a
New York Times best seller? And I

2426
02:18:13.719 --> 02:18:16.479
was like, okay, here we
go, let's do this. Like okay,

2427
02:18:16.719 --> 02:18:20.000
I start, you know, talking
to him. So yeah, of

2428
02:18:20.040 --> 02:18:22.760
course their first getting the seals about
his book. But so I'm just egging

2429
02:18:22.840 --> 02:18:24.639
him on. I keep calling him
a idiot, and I keep calling him

2430
02:18:24.680 --> 02:18:26.559
idiot. He's like, hey,
man, just you know, trying to

2431
02:18:26.600 --> 02:18:28.719
help out a fellow writer. Man, it's tough stuff. If you ever

2432
02:18:28.799 --> 02:18:33.639
need a professional New York Times best
selling writer to help you out, I'd

2433
02:18:33.680 --> 02:18:35.440
be happy, bro. And I
was like, all right, fine,

2434
02:18:35.479 --> 02:18:37.399
what do you got And he's like, oh, I'll write your forward for

2435
02:18:37.440 --> 02:18:39.799
your next one. It's like,
okay, I'm writing air Force Gator too,

2436
02:18:39.920 --> 02:18:41.479
right now, how about you write
the forward to it? And then

2437
02:18:41.559 --> 02:18:46.159
I it was a it was a
total joke. And I remember I was

2438
02:18:46.319 --> 02:18:50.079
in Boston, I think, for
something, and I got I remember being

2439
02:18:50.120 --> 02:18:52.159
in the hotel and I got an
email from like his agent, and it

2440
02:18:52.360 --> 02:18:58.120
had the whole forward and it was
written by Jose and Saco and it's in

2441
02:18:58.200 --> 02:19:00.520
the book. And as promise,
I put it in, didn't edit for

2442
02:19:00.559 --> 02:19:01.840
spelling, I didn't do anything like
he wrote the forward of the book.

2443
02:19:03.120 --> 02:19:05.159
And I don't call him an idiot. And I just kept riding that out

2444
02:19:05.200 --> 02:19:09.159
and he did his dumb crowdfunder and
I did my dumb one and mine blew.

2445
02:19:09.239 --> 02:19:11.639
He made two hundred ninety dollars.
I made like three thousand, three

2446
02:19:11.719 --> 02:19:15.360
hundred or something. Yeah, he
did, yeah, the very first one.

2447
02:19:15.399 --> 02:19:18.959
As soon as I front of Jeff
Gersman one hundred dollars and I think

2448
02:19:18.000 --> 02:19:20.440
you and my mom were two and
three, he texted me, and I

2449
02:19:20.520 --> 02:19:26.120
was like, done, this is
so stupid. Yeah, you, Jeff

2450
02:19:26.200 --> 02:19:28.879
and my mom gave me my first
three hundred dollars. And I don't have

2451
02:19:28.959 --> 02:19:31.440
a lot of disposable income, but
what we do have we like to spend

2452
02:19:31.479 --> 02:19:33.000
on the dumbest things possible. I
appreciate that. Did you did you pay

2453
02:19:33.040 --> 02:19:37.200
him, mister Conseco? No,
he offered to do it. I just

2454
02:19:37.280 --> 02:19:39.920
wanted to call him out. He
said that he offered to write the ford

2455
02:19:39.040 --> 02:19:41.280
was okay, fine, idiot,
do it, and he fucking did.

2456
02:19:41.760 --> 02:19:45.040
All right, your life is amazing. Have you ever have you ever met

2457
02:19:45.120 --> 02:19:46.360
him in person? No? I
want to. Actually, I saw he

2458
02:19:46.479 --> 02:19:50.200
was in town and recently I tweeted
him to see if he wants to meet

2459
02:19:50.280 --> 02:19:52.239
up, but he didn't respond.
I would argue that you should not be

2460
02:19:52.520 --> 02:19:56.479
co located with us. I would
would he would say that's probably a good

2461
02:19:56.600 --> 02:19:58.760
safe bit. Legitimately, if he
wants to meet up with me and Conseco.

2462
02:19:58.760 --> 02:20:03.280
If you're listening, don't cut Romo
rate anytime anywhere. Conseco, Me

2463
02:20:03.440 --> 02:20:07.399
and you, We get Drew Scanlon, we get Jay Snace Straker, we

2464
02:20:07.479 --> 02:20:11.399
get some cameras. We might usus
up. Home run derby me and you

2465
02:20:11.639 --> 02:20:13.639
at actual home run, actual home
run derby. No, you pick the

2466
02:20:13.680 --> 02:20:18.760
picture, you get fast falls.
I might get underhand. That seems pretty

2467
02:20:18.760 --> 02:20:22.040
scary with fastballs. But yeah,
home run derby me and you, stadium

2468
02:20:22.079 --> 02:20:24.079
of your choice. Let's do it. Conseco, start the hashtag, everyone

2469
02:20:24.120 --> 02:20:30.639
tweet Jose Consaco, Consaco versus Record
fourteen. I'll do it. I will

2470
02:20:30.680 --> 02:20:33.239
have a home run derby against that
man showing the conversation arm wrestling competition.

2471
02:20:33.559 --> 02:20:37.440
Seeing the question really becomes being on
the show and having you asked me all

2472
02:20:37.440 --> 02:20:39.959
those questions during the news portion and
Dan doing this, Who will keep their

2473
02:20:41.040 --> 02:20:43.360
job in San Francisco longer? Because
I'm trying to do it in good faith

2474
02:20:43.399 --> 02:20:48.399
and I feel like Dan is fighting
to lose his job at this is this

2475
02:20:48.520 --> 02:20:50.920
is a rough town to be unemployed, and I'm just telling you you don't

2476
02:20:50.920 --> 02:20:52.600
want to be out of work right
now. My rent is over like the

2477
02:20:52.680 --> 02:20:56.719
median income. My boss was the
first one to fund this project. It's

2478
02:20:56.760 --> 02:21:00.559
true. I think I'm okay.
Yeah, well I would say you're okay

2479
02:21:00.680 --> 02:21:05.440
is probably overstanding. Well, I
feel like now it's a good time to

2480
02:21:05.440 --> 02:21:09.520
read this particular emial. Former Baseball
Player Sucks At Crowdfunding now available on Amazon

2481
02:21:09.520 --> 02:21:15.120
dot com, Airforce Skater and Airforce
Skater tam Yeah, it's called Former Baseball

2482
02:21:15.120 --> 02:21:18.120
Player Sucks At Crowdfunding a time travel
adventure. You couldn't call it Jose because

2483
02:21:18.120 --> 02:21:22.200
I could get sued. And also
I use the small penis rule from literature

2484
02:21:22.319 --> 02:21:24.479
to make it so I couldn't get
sued. Have you heard of that?

2485
02:21:24.520 --> 02:21:26.799
Michael Critton needs to do that.
If you say someone it's based on a

2486
02:21:26.840 --> 02:21:30.399
real person, if you just keep
repeatedly saying like they have a small penis,

2487
02:21:30.719 --> 02:21:33.120
they can't sue you because they would
have to go to court and the

2488
02:21:33.159 --> 02:21:35.159
guy would have to be like,
yes, your honored. That was clearly

2489
02:21:35.239 --> 02:21:37.559
meant to be me every part of
it, because no guy's gonna go on

2490
02:21:37.600 --> 02:21:39.559
court and see like, yeah,
the small penis thing is true. So

2491
02:21:39.719 --> 02:21:41.520
every chapter jose Ca and Psycho goes
through a different time period and his small

2492
02:21:41.559 --> 02:21:45.639
penis gets him in trouble. So
this was a rule in the prompt that

2493
02:21:45.680 --> 02:21:48.280
he sent around. Yeah, it
has to be a different time period and

2494
02:21:48.360 --> 02:21:52.040
it has to revolve around how tiny
jose can secus I mean former baseball player's

2495
02:21:52.040 --> 02:21:58.360
penis. It's clearly been missing out
on this literary Realdom masterpiece. It's Amazon

2496
02:21:58.440 --> 02:22:03.520
dot com, all right, were
you bought the CD machines? It's enough

2497
02:22:03.520 --> 02:22:09.719
self promotion from one podcast, although
I feel like I'm just feeding the beast

2498
02:22:09.799 --> 02:22:11.600
at this point pretty much. But
here's an email with subject line Dan,

2499
02:22:11.680 --> 02:22:18.920
what is up with you? Seriously? What's your fucking problem? Sincerely John

2500
02:22:18.000 --> 02:22:22.520
D from Chicago, a long time
listener who's considering unsubscribing to the show.

2501
02:22:22.520 --> 02:22:26.319
If you don't get your shit together, Well, John D. It's John

2502
02:22:26.360 --> 02:22:28.680
Drake, isn't it. He's got
a lot of It's John Drake. This

2503
02:22:28.799 --> 02:22:33.440
email writer's full of good ideas.
I don't know who it is, it

2504
02:22:33.559 --> 02:22:35.639
just says John D. You know, it's not like there's a picture from

2505
02:22:35.680 --> 02:22:39.079
Google Plus or anything that like might
identify this character. Oh, it's probably

2506
02:22:39.120 --> 02:22:43.200
John Drake. He's sitting right across
the table for me. I actually got

2507
02:22:43.280 --> 02:22:46.479
through this entire email and like was
like this got problem. And then I

2508
02:22:46.559 --> 02:22:52.079
looked up at the picture. I
wrote an email after driving for six hours

2509
02:22:52.239 --> 02:22:54.639
and the last three hours I was
listening to the BombCast, and I started

2510
02:22:54.680 --> 02:23:03.879
listening to Dan make declarative statements with
no sense of potential compromise or any sort

2511
02:23:03.879 --> 02:23:09.639
of nuance or thought to what other
people think about things. Uh, And

2512
02:23:09.760 --> 02:23:13.000
he says phrases like Taco Bell is
the greatest cuisine in the world, and

2513
02:23:13.159 --> 02:23:16.399
you know he knows that's not right, but he will defend it like subject

2514
02:23:18.000 --> 02:23:22.040
subjectively, subjective, okay, but
so talk about being the best cuisine in

2515
02:23:22.040 --> 02:23:26.520
the world, my favorite, my
favorite. That's a different thing. That's

2516
02:23:26.559 --> 02:23:28.600
a different thing. I will you
can submit to that. Came back from

2517
02:23:28.639 --> 02:23:33.319
that taco truck the other day,
raving about that. It was over the

2518
02:23:33.360 --> 02:23:37.120
moon about that breed, but desert
I on situation. I can have a

2519
02:23:37.159 --> 02:23:39.440
Taco Bell, or I can have
that taco truck. I'm having Taco Bell

2520
02:23:39.479 --> 02:23:43.040
and it doesn't bother me that you
say you would do that, But when

2521
02:23:43.040 --> 02:23:46.000
you say categorically you know this is
a better I'm not. I'm not that

2522
02:23:46.120 --> 02:23:50.680
dumb to say that, because I
realized that that is just a personal preferences

2523
02:23:50.000 --> 02:23:52.559
that I grew up with, and
this is what I like and know,

2524
02:23:52.840 --> 02:23:58.879
and you can admit that likely a
wide overwhelming majority of people would say that

2525
02:23:58.920 --> 02:24:01.799
that's a crazy thing to say.
I completely understand that. All right,

2526
02:24:01.879 --> 02:24:03.200
this is good. We are all
growing as people. I'm trying. I

2527
02:24:03.319 --> 02:24:07.920
wanted to send a provocative email in
to get this out there, man,

2528
02:24:07.920 --> 02:24:09.879
because I feel like you can be
better. I believe in you. I

2529
02:24:09.959 --> 02:24:13.280
am so sort of I actually don't
believe in you, but I hope for

2530
02:24:13.399 --> 02:24:16.120
everyone else's sake that you for as
many of what the fuck is wrong with

2531
02:24:16.239 --> 02:24:20.040
you tweets and stuff as I get. I'm happiest fuck all the time.

2532
02:24:20.159 --> 02:24:24.040
So I'm not changing any Taco Bell, but you make everyone else hold their

2533
02:24:24.120 --> 02:24:28.600
face in shock and horror affecting never
change. We just want you never That's

2534
02:24:28.639 --> 02:24:33.600
my point is that I'm ting a
great time all the time. John.

2535
02:24:33.799 --> 02:24:37.600
We just want you to actualize the
best version of yourself. Everyone should be

2536
02:24:37.719 --> 02:24:39.959
like me and then everyone could be
happy. Wow. You know who else

2537
02:24:41.040 --> 02:24:43.959
said that. Nope, not gonna. I can't go on, John,

2538
02:24:45.079 --> 02:24:50.840
Nope, Dan record Taco Bell,
Taco, I got some good So what's

2539
02:24:50.840 --> 02:24:54.000
your fucking problem? What is your
problem? How did this happen? How

2540
02:24:54.040 --> 02:24:56.520
did you? How did you happen? Weird? I don't know. I

2541
02:24:56.680 --> 02:24:58.079
was a weird kid and I'm a
weird adult, and I did things in

2542
02:24:58.120 --> 02:25:01.920
a certain way but always worked for
me. So why would I do anything

2543
02:25:01.920 --> 02:25:03.840
differently? What's your problem? John? Yeah, just let him be d

2544
02:25:05.159 --> 02:25:09.319
r. Yeah. You have been
caught inside the gravitational field of his personality.

2545
02:25:09.319 --> 02:25:18.120
You're around him all day too much
Stockholm Syndromeholm. I'm not trying to

2546
02:25:18.159 --> 02:25:20.799
make him be a different person.
I'm just trying to temper how being himself

2547
02:25:20.840 --> 02:25:26.479
affects other people. Maybe it doesn't
affect me. I mean that is That's

2548
02:25:26.040 --> 02:25:33.799
literally the craziest response, perhaps not
the most egalitarian way. It's so,

2549
02:25:33.920 --> 02:25:39.000
I'm fine, it's fine. I
don't hate what I do, and therefore

2550
02:25:39.280 --> 02:25:45.799
I should not whatever. Fine.
I regret even trying to make inroads here.

2551
02:25:46.000 --> 02:25:48.159
Let's move on. People have tried
for years, John, We're moving

2552
02:25:48.159 --> 02:25:52.120
on me at the same fate.
Why why do you do this thing?

2553
02:25:52.200 --> 02:25:58.959
I can't believe an email with the
subject line the long pig is actually going

2554
02:25:58.040 --> 02:26:03.319
to be a refreshing change paste from
last conversation. But let's go so sad.

2555
02:26:03.479 --> 02:26:07.159
Good morning, says Dennis from Australia, the wrong time of day.

2556
02:26:09.399 --> 02:26:11.840
In a recent episode, Drew mentioned
super tasters. I am one, and

2557
02:26:11.959 --> 02:26:16.000
life can be hell. I can't
eat chocolate, coffee, anything bitter really,

2558
02:26:16.079 --> 02:26:20.040
which people are usually okay with.
Don't like melons either. This weirds

2559
02:26:20.079 --> 02:26:24.120
people out a bit more. Then
if I mentioned that I like my steak

2560
02:26:24.159 --> 02:26:26.200
well done, they think I'm a
lying madman. Chefs will come out of

2561
02:26:26.200 --> 02:26:30.120
the kitchen be mad at me.
It is my curse. The iron taste

2562
02:26:30.200 --> 02:26:35.520
otherwise is just too sharp and ruins
the meal. All right, Ready for

2563
02:26:35.600 --> 02:26:39.719
more? Yes, other food facts, he says. So I think that

2564
02:26:39.799 --> 02:26:43.719
was the end of his super taster
experience. It's gonna yell some food facts

2565
02:26:43.760 --> 02:26:48.000
at yep. Sounds good. I've
recently read an article about how the more

2566
02:26:48.079 --> 02:26:52.360
closely we are genetically related to something, the better it tastes, which explains

2567
02:26:52.399 --> 02:26:58.639
why pork is so amazing. Okay, okay, so because I am genetically

2568
02:26:58.719 --> 02:27:03.719
close to a pig, it tastes
good. Genetically. That's what he's saying.

2569
02:27:03.879 --> 02:27:05.479
Okay, all right, I will
continue. Some are super intelligent.

2570
02:27:05.840 --> 02:27:09.319
Some monkeys have to be like super
tasty, right, I'll be the idea.

2571
02:27:09.360 --> 02:27:13.040
Probably, Yeah, I saw a
temple of doom. Can't you can't

2572
02:27:13.079 --> 02:27:16.200
eat a monkey burger? I'm sorry? Why? Because I said so?

2573
02:27:16.799 --> 02:27:20.440
Are they endangered or not? I
don't know, not in good taste.

2574
02:27:20.760 --> 02:27:26.479
I'm gonna finish this email. You
also spoke about long pig. In a

2575
02:27:26.639 --> 02:27:28.959
visit to Papua New Guinea some sixteen
years ago. I met some old people

2576
02:27:28.959 --> 02:27:31.799
who could still remember eating people.
They said it was just like pork.

2577
02:27:33.000 --> 02:27:37.639
Okay, all right. Did you
know that in some tribes in Papua New

2578
02:27:37.680 --> 02:27:41.959
Guinea you can earn respect by breeding
a hermaphrodite pig and feeding it the people

2579
02:27:43.079 --> 02:27:48.319
have a great day. It calls
into question everything you said before. I

2580
02:27:48.360 --> 02:27:50.760
don't know, man, I just
I just read them as they come.

2581
02:27:52.120 --> 02:27:56.639
All right, there's a lot to
unpack in the email item. But that

2582
02:27:56.719 --> 02:27:58.959
would imply like tex bolls can't taste
good. I mean, like you couldn't

2583
02:28:00.040 --> 02:28:03.520
taste as good as pork. Yeah, I'm not better than I don't know

2584
02:28:03.600 --> 02:28:05.159
whatever. I'm not sure what's up
with that? I'm not related to fucking

2585
02:28:05.200 --> 02:28:09.239
pizza, am I? And that's
the most delicious What if you were man?

2586
02:28:09.360 --> 02:28:13.559
I would eat my I would eat
my family. It's the classic.

2587
02:28:13.959 --> 02:28:16.520
That's the classic. It's the classic
pizza the hut conundrum. Yep, if

2588
02:28:16.520 --> 02:28:20.559
you're made out of pizza, would
you just dying on yourself eat himself to

2589
02:28:20.920 --> 02:28:24.280
death? I don't know that I'd
be able to resist. It'd be pretty

2590
02:28:24.319 --> 02:28:31.000
great, all right. Uh?
Joe from North Carolina wants to know is

2591
02:28:31.040 --> 02:28:35.760
PlayStation Plus kind of scummy? What
here amount? I think? I feel

2592
02:28:35.799 --> 02:28:39.520
like that's kind of a loaded or
abrasive question, But this is the kind

2593
02:28:39.520 --> 02:28:41.239
of feedback I'm saying doesn't sound but
he's got a yeah, but he's got

2594
02:28:41.319 --> 02:28:46.399
he's got a legitimate question. Okay, is it just me? Or is

2595
02:28:46.440 --> 02:28:50.479
PlayStation Plus actually a raw deal?
As far as subscription services go. Having

2596
02:28:50.520 --> 02:28:52.879
to log in to claim my free
games and then only having access to games

2597
02:28:52.920 --> 02:28:58.079
I have claimed instead of the entire
PlayStation Plus catalog is hugely inconvenient. Can

2598
02:28:58.120 --> 02:29:01.639
you imagine if Netflix worked like this? I give so many credit for being

2599
02:29:01.639 --> 02:29:03.840
the first to implement a subscription service
that people actually care about. But when

2600
02:29:03.920 --> 02:29:09.239
are we going to stop fawning?
Okay, this is this is this is

2601
02:29:09.280 --> 02:29:11.719
where he loses me. But when
are we going to stop fawning over their

2602
02:29:11.760 --> 02:29:16.600
scummy policies. It's clearly designed to
keep people logging into the PSN store and

2603
02:29:16.719 --> 02:29:18.680
keep us giving the money even during
times when we aren't actively using the service.

2604
02:29:18.760 --> 02:29:22.600
Games and movies are different. Yeah, I mean, I don't know

2605
02:29:22.680 --> 02:29:26.319
what business realities may or may not
exist around that setup. I'm like,

2606
02:29:26.360 --> 02:29:28.600
whether you have you like opt in
or not? Yeah? Yeah, Like

2607
02:29:28.600 --> 02:29:33.079
I don't know if you know,
if maybe who knows of developers are getting

2608
02:29:33.120 --> 02:29:35.520
a cut of every like fake sale
that happens, you know, like maybe

2609
02:29:35.600 --> 02:29:39.760
maybe maybe developers being paid in a
pre rated fashion based on how many people

2610
02:29:39.760 --> 02:29:41.840
actually download. I don't know.
I will say that I forgot to download

2611
02:29:41.840 --> 02:29:46.079
all the PlayStation Plus games in June
and ever created it ever since? Well

2612
02:29:46.079 --> 02:29:48.840
there you go, yes, here, go on your phone, yeah,

2613
02:29:48.920 --> 02:29:52.280
and set up an alarm I should, and then just go press the four

2614
02:29:52.319 --> 02:29:56.159
balls press. The problem is those
stupid games roll out over the course of

2615
02:29:56.200 --> 02:29:58.559
the month unless that's changed. Oh
man, you have to log in a

2616
02:29:58.559 --> 02:30:01.280
play stage Puss like three times.
I know, I can't keep up of

2617
02:30:01.360 --> 02:30:03.600
that. When's first coming out?
I keep talking for that. I don't

2618
02:30:03.600 --> 02:30:05.799
know. Brady at least got Powerfall
and Strider, right, I got those,

2619
02:30:07.079 --> 02:30:09.600
those are fun games. I miss
h I think it was. I

2620
02:30:09.680 --> 02:30:13.879
mean I was trying to and like
Pixel Junner, Pixel Junk Shooter Ultimate or

2621
02:30:13.920 --> 02:30:16.760
something like that. That just PS
three in June. Now those are PS

2622
02:30:16.799 --> 02:30:20.559
four games. Pixel Junk was PS
four Ultimate. It's like a repackaging of

2623
02:30:20.600 --> 02:30:26.639
both Pixel Junk Shooter games into like
one God damn it. Yeah yeah that

2624
02:30:26.639 --> 02:30:28.479
was June. That was two months
ago games. I know, I totally

2625
02:30:28.520 --> 02:30:33.200
wanted to play through trying again.
I would say that what he describes is

2626
02:30:33.319 --> 02:30:37.360
like potentially could be phrases like minorly
inconvenient. Yeah, scummy. I think

2627
02:30:37.360 --> 02:30:41.239
it's it's a weird word to use
for like, I don't know. It's

2628
02:30:41.440 --> 02:30:43.760
like, I don't it's it's available
to you. It's not exploitative or anything

2629
02:30:43.840 --> 02:30:46.920
like that, I don't think,
which is a way. They're not not

2630
02:30:46.079 --> 02:30:48.159
in the way that the word like
scummy implies. But it is, you

2631
02:30:48.239 --> 02:30:50.520
know, it is. It does
happen, you know, you do,

2632
02:30:50.719 --> 02:30:54.319
you do miss out occasionally, and
it's kind of a bummer. I thought

2633
02:30:54.360 --> 02:30:56.399
there was a way to set it
down though, but I guess I'm wrong.

2634
02:30:56.559 --> 02:30:58.680
I don't think so, but I
mean there are at least a lot

2635
02:30:58.719 --> 02:31:01.639
more convenient ways to do it now
then having to fire up your console.

2636
02:31:01.799 --> 02:31:03.799
Sure you know you can do it
on your phone, that you can do

2637
02:31:03.840 --> 02:31:07.520
it from the web and then tell
it to download from the I think because

2638
02:31:07.559 --> 02:31:09.760
I think I pushed it so you're
gonna have it ready waiting when you come

2639
02:31:09.760 --> 02:31:11.760
home. But you do still have
to manually go opt into it, which

2640
02:31:11.840 --> 02:31:16.319
is kind of it's something you can
forget to do. No, maybe that

2641
02:31:16.360 --> 02:31:20.200
stuff will change. Is some fair
critique post posted inside of some pretty victuality

2642
02:31:20.280 --> 02:31:24.959
language. But okay, that's interesting, all right. This was a great

2643
02:31:24.959 --> 02:31:28.239
email from John. Is it another
email from me? I don't remember writing

2644
02:31:28.399 --> 02:31:31.440
No, this is joy. I
still haven't decided if I should be reading

2645
02:31:31.479 --> 02:31:37.520
people's full full names or not do
that if you know them last Initially,

2646
02:31:37.559 --> 02:31:39.000
I've been skewing towards just first names. If you know them. I think

2647
02:31:39.000 --> 02:31:41.879
it's okay to do it if you
want to call them out, But if

2648
02:31:41.879 --> 02:31:45.040
you don't know them, I think
it's first first name and location or first

2649
02:31:45.079 --> 02:31:50.479
name an Initially, if you want
a John yeah, bays is the subject

2650
02:31:50.559 --> 02:31:54.879
line like baes b a y s
Okay, please rank the following bays.

2651
02:31:56.079 --> 02:32:03.719
San Francisco Bay, Green Bay,
Bungling Bay, Michael Bay, Cheddar Bay.

2652
02:32:03.079 --> 02:32:07.280
What's Bungling Bay? Raid from right
on Bungling Bay. It's an old,

2653
02:32:09.239 --> 02:32:11.600
real old video game. Okay,
I've never played it, so I'm

2654
02:32:11.639 --> 02:32:13.799
gonna put Bungling Bay at the bottom
of list. What's Cheddar Bays? Believe

2655
02:32:13.920 --> 02:32:16.879
Cheddar Bay are the biscuits from Red
Lobs That's what I thought. Okay,

2656
02:32:16.879 --> 02:32:20.239
then that's number one. I've never
had those, but somebody was Multiple people

2657
02:32:20.239 --> 02:32:24.280
were giving me some real shit on
Twitter the other day for admitting to never

2658
02:32:24.360 --> 02:32:26.360
having eaten the Cheddar Bay biscuits.
Oh they got cheese and seven it sounds

2659
02:32:26.360 --> 02:32:28.319
okay, yeah, yeah, it's
worth on the Red Lobster just for the

2660
02:32:28.360 --> 02:32:31.120
biscuits. Jeff was telling me about
I cannot remember if it was Chick fil

2661
02:32:31.159 --> 02:32:33.280
A or bow Jangles, where I
think it was bow Jangles, where somebody

2662
02:32:33.319 --> 02:32:37.760
had gone to Bojangles and gotten the
Cajun filet and put the chicken filet part

2663
02:32:37.799 --> 02:32:41.959
of the Cajun filet into a Cheddar
Bay biscuit, which is ambitious, which,

2664
02:32:41.000 --> 02:32:43.639
not even having had the cheddar Bay
biscuits, sounds like something I wouldn't

2665
02:32:43.639 --> 02:32:48.319
mind trying. Also, can't you
just buy those things? I can't you,

2666
02:32:48.520 --> 02:32:50.520
like just buy the biscuit and the
frozen Nile. I think they might

2667
02:32:50.639 --> 02:32:54.920
have like branded stuff now, should
Yeah, they should make some cash money.

2668
02:32:54.360 --> 02:32:58.079
Green Bay's last, because the Green
Bay Packers are the worst. Okay,

2669
02:32:58.200 --> 02:33:01.040
in my mind, Michael Bay is
a close fourth. Wow, he

2670
02:33:01.159 --> 02:33:05.479
made the Rock Screw. Yeah,
It's also made four Transformers movies though,

2671
02:33:05.000 --> 02:33:11.000
yes, did he do the fourth
one? Yeah? Yeah. I like

2672
02:33:11.120 --> 02:33:13.760
San Francisco fairmoun because I lived here. It's pretty good. I like San

2673
02:33:13.760 --> 02:33:16.280
Francisco because it was in the Rock. Sure does that mean it's subservient to

2674
02:33:16.319 --> 02:33:20.040
Michael Bay in your mind? No? San Francisco is pretty cool. Is

2675
02:33:20.159 --> 02:33:22.319
that is a nested Bay hierarchy?
Yeah, that's the thing is it's like

2676
02:33:22.440 --> 02:33:26.719
four A and four B San Francisco, San Francisco Bay is A is a

2677
02:33:26.879 --> 02:33:30.479
necessary but not a sufficient condition of
Michael Bay. Yep. So, yep,

2678
02:33:30.680 --> 02:33:33.239
okay, I follow what you're saying. Yep. I'm forgetting one.

2679
02:33:33.840 --> 02:33:35.760
Oh that game I don't know.
Yeah, Okay, that was it.

2680
02:33:35.879 --> 02:33:39.360
No, I put bunkling Bay at
last. Sure, okay, hell except

2681
02:33:39.399 --> 02:33:46.200
cheddar Bay. Great weird prompt,
super weird prompt. Oh you know it's

2682
02:33:46.239 --> 02:33:54.879
just emails? Why Okay? Zandra
from San Jose says, Hey, guys,

2683
02:33:54.959 --> 02:33:58.360
ask Dan why he needs to wear
glasses. For the record, his

2684
02:33:58.479 --> 02:34:01.879
time on Game Informers Replace has left
quite an audio trail of idiocracy over the

2685
02:34:03.000 --> 02:34:07.079
years, So prepare for lots of
these sorts of emails. Yeah, there's

2686
02:34:07.120 --> 02:34:11.959
probably at least a couple grand hours
of these type of stories. Grand do

2687
02:34:13.040 --> 02:34:16.879
you mean like two thousand hours and
hours? I don't know that that works

2688
02:34:16.920 --> 02:34:22.079
in a nony thousands of hours,
probably at least numerous hundreds of me saying

2689
02:34:22.120 --> 02:34:26.239
dumb shit, I'm gaming former.
Okay, So the reason I had to

2690
02:34:26.319 --> 02:34:31.040
have lasic and also now have to
have glasses in contacts is I had normal

2691
02:34:31.120 --> 02:34:35.559
ass vision, and then in first
grade, for some reason, I thought

2692
02:34:35.600 --> 02:34:39.200
the idea of glasses were really cool, that it was like some cool like

2693
02:34:39.200 --> 02:34:41.600
almost like superhero access for They're like, I'm gonna put these things in my

2694
02:34:41.639 --> 02:34:45.959
face and I can see really far, and I wanted them even though I

2695
02:34:46.040 --> 02:34:50.879
could see fine anyway, yeah,
So I purposely bombed the eye test when

2696
02:34:50.879 --> 02:34:52.920
they came to my school, and
I just bombed the funk out of it,

2697
02:34:54.040 --> 02:34:56.479
like, you know, just like
i'd see a giant ee. Man.

2698
02:34:56.799 --> 02:34:58.000
You know, I just bombed the
hell out of it. And so

2699
02:34:58.360 --> 02:35:03.079
they gave me prescription for these strong
glasses that I didn't need because I was

2700
02:35:03.120 --> 02:35:07.399
seeing fine, and I just had
to force myself through like wearing these glasses

2701
02:35:07.440 --> 02:35:11.479
as much as I could or could
tolerate for a long time until it just

2702
02:35:11.600 --> 02:35:15.319
fucked up my eyes. Enough are
we talking like yours? This is like

2703
02:35:15.399 --> 02:35:16.639
first grade? Man, I don't
I just remember, like I wouldn't wear

2704
02:35:16.680 --> 02:35:20.040
them all the time because it would
st hurting my head and I just couldn't

2705
02:35:20.079 --> 02:35:22.760
see, Like, can you go
back and read my email again? I

2706
02:35:22.799 --> 02:35:26.760
feel like I feel like it's,
yeah, this is real stupid when everyone

2707
02:35:26.840 --> 02:35:28.719
everyone who was like, wow,
that's a really harsh thing to say to

2708
02:35:28.799 --> 02:35:33.360
him, Like just read after this. Maybe if I have one regret in

2709
02:35:33.399 --> 02:35:35.639
my life, it's it's maybe doing
this, because this is your one regrets

2710
02:35:37.040 --> 02:35:39.760
I can see have any other one
is a pretty big deal. Yeah.

2711
02:35:39.799 --> 02:35:45.120
Everything else. So as I got
older, it's I had to keep getting

2712
02:35:45.120 --> 02:35:48.639
progressively stronger and stronger contacts and glasses
to where I was like, like my

2713
02:35:48.879 --> 02:35:52.280
contact prescriptions I think were like negative
seven, which we have contacts, you

2714
02:35:52.319 --> 02:35:54.200
know, that's pretty damn strong.
And so I couldn't see shit. And

2715
02:35:54.319 --> 02:35:58.079
so in two thousand and seven I
got LASIC and then all of a sudden,

2716
02:35:58.079 --> 02:36:01.280
I've got twenty fifteen vision. It's
a lasers in your eyes. Yeah,

2717
02:36:01.319 --> 02:36:03.360
But then it turns of my eyes
were still degrading, and so now

2718
02:36:03.399 --> 02:36:07.159
they're getting down to the point too
where I work contacts and glass. Again,

2719
02:36:07.360 --> 02:36:09.079
it's nowhere near as bad as it
was before lasic, But yeah,

2720
02:36:09.120 --> 02:36:11.959
I basically fucked up my eyesight real
bad for life because I thought it'd be

2721
02:36:13.000 --> 02:36:16.239
cool to have like cool things in
my face that made me see far.

2722
02:36:16.399 --> 02:36:20.159
Wow. Yeah, that's I guess
that's the one regret. It must be

2723
02:36:20.200 --> 02:36:22.319
hard to be a doctor and be
worried constantly, like you know, like

2724
02:36:22.399 --> 02:36:26.719
basically being a veterinarian, but for
creatures that can talk and lie to you

2725
02:36:26.440 --> 02:36:28.159
like pig, a pediatrician must just
be like, I don't know, this

2726
02:36:28.239 --> 02:36:31.520
kid could be making all this ship
up, like you know what, I

2727
02:36:31.639 --> 02:36:35.799
know he's I'm gonna guess that the
majority of people aren't out there like working

2728
02:36:35.840 --> 02:36:37.799
against their own self interests. In
the doctor's office, I thought I was

2729
02:36:37.840 --> 02:36:41.639
gonna get me a cool thing.
I'm guessing most people actually want to get

2730
02:36:41.760 --> 02:36:45.639
better. Yeah, yeah, in
my mind it was it was an improvement.

2731
02:36:45.680 --> 02:36:48.319
That's like, that's like those uh, that's like those HD glasses that

2732
02:36:48.360 --> 02:36:50.559
they were pedaling on late night TV
for a while there. Yeah, because

2733
02:36:50.920 --> 02:36:56.159
those see the world in high definition, strangely similar to the gunner Yeah,

2734
02:36:56.600 --> 02:37:01.159
like glass. They're basically just like
tinted orange glasses or whatever. Or the

2735
02:37:01.280 --> 02:37:03.440
X ray ones from the back of
Mad magazine. Oh no, those work.

2736
02:37:03.639 --> 02:37:09.040
You're right through a lady's dress with
those things. Thinking about that X

2737
02:37:09.159 --> 02:37:15.120
rays are clothes based rays. All
right, well, I'm glad that we've

2738
02:37:15.159 --> 02:37:18.000
documented another chapter in the Tale of
Reichert. God damn it. It's just

2739
02:37:18.200 --> 02:37:22.239
like this whole site is circling the
Reichert. I would say, drain,

2740
02:37:22.360 --> 02:37:26.440
but that's giving you too much credit. The year productive member of society.

2741
02:37:26.280 --> 02:37:33.719
It's like like Slough, it's working
out sam as Brad. Okay, someone

2742
02:37:33.760 --> 02:37:37.639
needs to be the voice of negativity
around here. You're too fucking optimistic for

2743
02:37:37.639 --> 02:37:41.040
how crazy you are. It's like
you're just like happily crazy, and everyone's

2744
02:37:41.040 --> 02:37:45.600
like that's cute and adorable. I'm
like, no, he's gonna destroy civilization.

2745
02:37:46.159 --> 02:37:48.959
Someone speak up, be the voice
of reason before we're all fucking destroying.

2746
02:37:50.200 --> 02:37:52.760
We have a great responsibility here.
And then Jeff is just like just

2747
02:37:52.959 --> 02:37:56.239
happy enough that you have paralleled diet
and wrestling interest. He looks pass everything

2748
02:37:56.319 --> 02:38:03.719
else than a microphone. The people
can Jeff enjoys watching the world burn enough

2749
02:38:03.760 --> 02:38:05.639
to let this happen. Should get
Matt Kessler and Dan Reichet, or try

2750
02:38:05.680 --> 02:38:09.840
foods in the or try before and
yeah, that's not that's not a bad

2751
02:38:09.840 --> 02:38:11.360
idea. I would watch that video
serious. You can come shoot at our

2752
02:38:11.360 --> 02:38:15.000
office. We should we should do
that. I would do that. Think

2753
02:38:15.000 --> 02:38:16.719
about doing the record, I would
do that at Artbeat. All right,

2754
02:38:18.239 --> 02:38:22.120
Lee's got a question. So I
was having a conversation about gaming with a

2755
02:38:22.200 --> 02:38:26.319
co worker and I mentioned that I
don't like multiplayer at all. I think

2756
02:38:26.360 --> 02:38:28.920
it's a waste of time. I'm
only interested in single player. When I

2757
02:38:30.000 --> 02:38:31.159
play a game, it is to
escape from the real world, not to

2758
02:38:31.360 --> 02:38:35.319
engage in it. I find the
concept of being decimated by a twelve year

2759
02:38:35.319 --> 02:38:37.079
old to not be very fun,
so I just don't engage in multiplayer.

2760
02:38:37.760 --> 02:38:41.840
My co workers said that I was
the definition of a casual player, and

2761
02:38:41.879 --> 02:38:46.040
I felt really insulted, and in
my mind, casual gamers are people that

2762
02:38:46.120 --> 02:38:48.799
play online poker or puzzle games on
Facebook. Afterwards, I was mad because

2763
02:38:48.840 --> 02:38:52.799
I let the term casual get to
me. Am I casual because I only

2764
02:38:52.840 --> 02:38:56.000
like single player games? Or is
this guy at cock tard? What in

2765
02:38:56.079 --> 02:39:00.440
your minds makes a gamer casual or
hardcore? So much hard polarized language.

2766
02:39:00.520 --> 02:39:03.760
Please, for whatever that guy is
or is not, please don't use the

2767
02:39:03.799 --> 02:39:05.440
word cocktard. Yeah, I mean, how about you just not give a

2768
02:39:05.479 --> 02:39:09.319
shit about a label, like just
playing this stuff you like and who gives

2769
02:39:09.360 --> 02:39:11.600
the fu there is that? But
also, yeah, that guy's kind of

2770
02:39:11.680 --> 02:39:15.680
being a dick. Yeah yeah,
I mean there's plenty of really hardcore single

2771
02:39:15.719 --> 02:39:20.639
player games like Dark Souls is a
pretty serious one, so isda Well,

2772
02:39:20.680 --> 02:39:22.319
I thought that's a multiplayer. Oh
he's single player? Okay, yeah,

2773
02:39:22.440 --> 02:39:26.159
the all you know, like a
legion of roguelikes out there. Yeah,

2774
02:39:26.280 --> 02:39:30.639
I mean, and any I mean, I guess like his high level definition

2775
02:39:30.680 --> 02:39:35.559
of like casual being mobile and social
based. Even in that context, there's

2776
02:39:35.639 --> 02:39:39.319
like core mobile games and sort of
like light you know, fun like fun

2777
02:39:39.399 --> 02:39:41.799
mobile games that are not as hardcore
and their mechanics. I don't at the

2778
02:39:41.879 --> 02:39:45.719
end of the day, like how
much you play games, probably it finds

2779
02:39:45.760 --> 02:39:48.799
what kind of gamer you are,
not exact kind of game you play.

2780
02:39:48.879 --> 02:39:50.399
I guess you know what I mean, hardcore game crush players. Yeah,

2781
02:39:50.719 --> 02:39:52.920
all fucking day man. Sure you
know, like if you really want to

2782
02:39:52.920 --> 02:39:56.000
put a label on people to play
games like that, I would say they're

2783
02:39:56.040 --> 02:40:00.120
more mainstream than casual. I guess
mass Yeah, sure, you know,

2784
02:40:00.159 --> 02:40:03.600
Like casual apply to that context,
isn't really a pejorative the way it is

2785
02:40:03.719 --> 02:40:05.440
this guy is using it? Well, no, And I think that's I

2786
02:40:05.479 --> 02:40:07.639
think that's the thing that bout Dan
and I are briskly out a little bit,

2787
02:40:07.719 --> 02:40:11.680
is like I just don't really accept
casual as like an insult. I

2788
02:40:11.719 --> 02:40:13.319
don't know, Like there's plenty of
games I play casually, Like I played

2789
02:40:13.319 --> 02:40:16.079
pecal Too pretty casually, and I've
played a lot of Pegel too, but

2790
02:40:16.120 --> 02:40:18.079
I play it for like five or
ten minutes at a time. I had

2791
02:40:18.079 --> 02:40:22.159
really good time and then move on. Sure, I don't know I think

2792
02:40:22.200 --> 02:40:24.399
it's just play the games you want
to play. Yeah, no, totally,

2793
02:40:24.520 --> 02:40:26.079
I totally agree with you. But
he's not being that word you said,

2794
02:40:26.120 --> 02:40:30.159
But he is being a little dismissive
and a little silly. And to

2795
02:40:30.200 --> 02:40:31.360
speak to that point, I just
want to put this out there. If

2796
02:40:31.360 --> 02:40:35.040
you are arrogantly looking down your nose
at other people because of the games they

2797
02:40:35.040 --> 02:40:37.959
do or do not like, or
like, how good you think they are,

2798
02:40:37.959 --> 02:40:43.159
adam or something, you might be
an insufferable person. Yeah. Yeah,

2799
02:40:43.760 --> 02:40:48.639
so think about that. Super shitty
to tell other people how to enjoy

2800
02:40:48.719 --> 02:40:56.120
things, says ironically, after yelling
at Dan Record like Taco Bell. All

2801
02:40:56.200 --> 02:41:03.000
right, I did it for comedic
effect. It's worth we know what your

2802
02:41:03.000 --> 02:41:05.959
intent is. Yeah, trying to
say the world. Okay, I like

2803
02:41:07.040 --> 02:41:11.319
your Lex Luthor. We got no
wait a minute. That took me a

2804
02:41:11.399 --> 02:41:16.479
second. There's a wrestler named Lex
Luthor, isn't there Luger? Yeah?

2805
02:41:16.520 --> 02:41:18.479
Wait, they wouldn't have called him
Lex Luthan. Is that what you just

2806
02:41:18.559 --> 02:41:22.639
said? Oh? For once,
I was not making a wrestling that was

2807
02:41:22.760 --> 02:41:24.239
That's what that was where my mental
disconnect came in. I was like,

2808
02:41:24.799 --> 02:41:28.920
he couldn't not be talking about a
wrestler because it's always talks about books.

2809
02:41:28.079 --> 02:41:31.719
Yeah, so there must be a
wrestler. I thought there was a wrestler

2810
02:41:31.799 --> 02:41:35.319
name that because he wouldn't ever talk
about something that wasn't wrestling. That was

2811
02:41:35.360 --> 02:41:39.760
a Superman reference first time for everything
it was Lex Luthor was the villain after

2812
02:41:39.799 --> 02:41:43.799
that Superman flot after after Scotty too
hottie there also he couldn't be a villain?

2813
02:41:45.040 --> 02:41:46.719
Was that a fun loving guy?
He does the damn worm? Was

2814
02:41:46.760 --> 02:41:52.239
that? Was that attitude era?
I can't remember when Luther and Grandmaster sex

2815
02:41:52.319 --> 02:41:56.799
A. I didn't Frank Cristopher.
It was going so well. I was

2816
02:41:56.840 --> 02:42:01.280
trying so hard not to. I
was supposed to be a ball. Scott's

2817
02:42:01.280 --> 02:42:03.280
too hot. It's like, I
don't really care about wrestling, but that's

2818
02:42:03.440 --> 02:42:13.559
the dumbest name ever. All Right, uh Abby from Cupertino. This question

2819
02:42:13.639 --> 02:42:16.120
has been bugging me, me,
I eat my entire life. Let's try

2820
02:42:16.120 --> 02:42:20.360
to get through it today. All
right. I think it's a pretty obvious

2821
02:42:20.440 --> 02:42:24.840
question. When you guys eat food
that is served in an edible container,

2822
02:42:24.959 --> 02:42:28.399
like a soup in a bread bowl, a taco salad served in a Christo

2823
02:42:28.479 --> 02:42:31.799
rtea bowl, or an ice cream
on a waffle cone. Do you guys

2824
02:42:31.840 --> 02:42:33.399
eat the container? I'm just gonna
stop you here. Yeah, yes,

2825
02:42:33.440 --> 02:42:37.040
yes, yes, I argue.
I don't eat all of the container all

2826
02:42:37.040 --> 02:42:39.120
the time. I don't need an
entire taco bowl all the time, but

2827
02:42:39.200 --> 02:42:41.639
most of it. Yeah, oh
yeah you do. Yeah. I always

2828
02:42:41.639 --> 02:42:45.360
eat the container, but I always
feel weird for doing so when I see

2829
02:42:45.360 --> 02:42:48.680
people tossing the bread bowl, tortilla
bowl, cone, et cetera. That's

2830
02:42:48.840 --> 02:42:50.920
ridiculous. Am I weird for doing
this? I need your expert, expert

2831
02:42:50.959 --> 02:42:54.680
food knowledge. You've come to the
right place to help me validate my existence.

2832
02:42:54.760 --> 02:42:56.680
Yeah, I know those people are
the weird ones for throwing that stuff

2833
02:42:56.680 --> 02:43:00.719
out, literally throwing food away,
like delicious food. You just name three

2834
02:43:00.760 --> 02:43:03.559
things where the point of the dish
is the thing to eat. Also,

2835
02:43:03.559 --> 02:43:09.239
you're talking to Dan Rager who wanted
to eat the corn for the corn based

2836
02:43:09.399 --> 02:43:13.920
did not actually want to just hypothetically. I want to know, I want

2837
02:43:13.000 --> 02:43:18.200
to the my that was when I
wrote that anmail. It's just be like

2838
02:43:18.280 --> 02:43:22.200
someone should have said, no,
don't do that. You can't eat them.

2839
02:43:22.360 --> 02:43:26.399
Because saying you can eat them in
scare quotes, all he hears is

2840
02:43:26.479 --> 02:43:28.760
I can eat them, and he's
gonna eat forks and he's gonna die.

2841
02:43:28.440 --> 02:43:33.079
I'm not gonna feel bad about it. Yeah, you're eat a waffle cone.

2842
02:43:33.120 --> 02:43:35.559
Of course, that's the whole point
of the cone, is that it's

2843
02:43:35.600 --> 02:43:41.159
as delicious with the ice cream inside
of it. That's crazy question. Oh,

2844
02:43:41.200 --> 02:43:45.319
I love this question. This is
a great question. Bad that guy's

2845
02:43:45.360 --> 02:43:48.159
been carrying that around his hold man. Just you know, it's just like

2846
02:43:48.280 --> 02:43:50.360
what games you want to play,
you know, eat the containers you want

2847
02:43:50.360 --> 02:43:54.079
to eat? No, no,
Brad, No, people will start eating

2848
02:43:54.120 --> 02:43:56.520
styro FuMB and they'll die do that. Yes, you can't styre fum.

2849
02:43:56.600 --> 02:44:01.680
It's made of recycling mysterial. Wait, no you can't. No, No,

2850
02:44:01.840 --> 02:44:03.280
what I was going to ask him
that? What is that? What

2851
02:44:03.440 --> 02:44:07.120
is that? It's it's sort of
it seems like styrofoam. But there's like

2852
02:44:07.159 --> 02:44:09.479
some kind of edible packing material out
there. You don't what I'm talking about?

2853
02:44:09.520 --> 02:44:11.799
Also made of corn probably, okay? Yeah, like packing peanuts might

2854
02:44:11.879 --> 02:44:16.920
be wrong? Yeah, go ahead, how about how about edible underwear?

2855
02:44:16.959 --> 02:44:20.280
Do you think that falls us and
so in this category? No, that's

2856
02:44:20.319 --> 02:44:26.760
just like fruit rollo's shaped like underwear. Who's that fun? For I don't

2857
02:44:26.760 --> 02:44:30.360
know, guys selling you the underwdt's
save that for later. He's making cash

2858
02:44:30.399 --> 02:44:35.440
money, all right. I like
Anthony's totally interesting question, which is the

2859
02:44:35.479 --> 02:44:41.000
subject line of the email, but
it really is. Let's pretend for a

2860
02:44:41.040 --> 02:44:45.520
minute that every video game ever made
had a documentary film crew filming the development

2861
02:44:45.600 --> 02:44:48.399
process from this moment of conception all
the way to the developer's reactions to how

2862
02:44:48.440 --> 02:44:52.200
the finished games were received. We
probably won't go through all of this,

2863
02:44:52.360 --> 02:44:56.440
but what would be your top three
choices for games with must see documentaries and

2864
02:44:56.520 --> 02:44:58.200
why? The only game I can
say I would pick for sure is AKA

2865
02:44:58.360 --> 02:45:01.239
Enough Time, because I think it
would be super interesting to see a development

2866
02:45:01.280 --> 02:45:03.920
team tread new ground like that,
going from top down two D games to

2867
02:45:03.959 --> 02:45:07.719
three D world on a relatively powerful
new machine and having to completely rethink art,

2868
02:45:07.959 --> 02:45:11.040
dungeon and puzzle designs would be really
cool to see. I find that

2869
02:45:11.040 --> 02:45:13.520
shit fascinating, et cetera, et
cetera. He mentions a couple of other

2870
02:45:13.600 --> 02:45:20.000
games in that vein for me,
Like, for one thing, this question

2871
02:45:20.120 --> 02:45:24.879
is basically impossible to answer because I
would watch or read every single fucking oral

2872
02:45:24.959 --> 02:45:26.600
history of a games development. I
could get my hands on, like as

2873
02:45:26.680 --> 02:45:30.079
long as it was no holds barred, and it was all the really juicy

2874
02:45:30.120 --> 02:45:31.479
shit, you know, the arguments
that happened in the fights, and like

2875
02:45:31.559 --> 02:45:35.920
the drama, because I'm sure it
all goes on. The early stuff is

2876
02:45:37.159 --> 02:45:41.719
the most fascinating to me because they're
like solving problems that we are very familiar

2877
02:45:41.799 --> 02:45:46.200
with, but that they are not
so like Super Mario Brothers, like designing

2878
02:45:46.280 --> 02:45:52.280
the jump and like on top of
an enemy to kill it is have you

2879
02:45:52.360 --> 02:45:54.760
ever think, have you ever have
you ever read where he got the idea

2880
02:45:54.879 --> 02:45:58.319
for the side scrolling platform? It
was it was sitting on a train in

2881
02:45:58.360 --> 02:46:01.760
Japan, Yes, and watching as
the train went by, watching the mountains

2882
02:46:01.799 --> 02:46:07.680
scroll through the window. That's awesome, And like envisioning visioning a character jumping

2883
02:46:07.719 --> 02:46:11.120
over the mountains as they were passing
by through the train window. That doom.

2884
02:46:11.760 --> 02:46:15.600
But but yeah, like for me, yeah, someone is in a

2885
02:46:15.600 --> 02:46:18.840
book that's Masters of Doom is a
good book, Like it's uh, that's

2886
02:46:18.879 --> 02:46:20.520
the type of the type of thing
I would want to read about because that

2887
02:46:20.639 --> 02:46:22.879
really gets into the personalities of people
making the game, you know, and

2888
02:46:24.040 --> 02:46:26.079
like how they may or may not
have been compatible and like what clashes went

2889
02:46:26.159 --> 02:46:31.280
on in terms of like major decisions
being made and people people getting in fights.

2890
02:46:31.639 --> 02:46:33.680
Clover, Yes, yes, Clover, I'm sure it is a fascinating

2891
02:46:33.760 --> 02:46:37.680
tale of adversity and the triumph of
the human spirit. I want to watch

2892
02:46:37.760 --> 02:46:43.120
something about people making like modern modern
arcade games, like past the point where

2893
02:46:43.200 --> 02:46:46.440
arcades were like the thing that we
were all going to as kids, but

2894
02:46:46.479 --> 02:46:48.479
to the point where you're still making
like a new arcading crisis for yes,

2895
02:46:48.639 --> 02:46:52.319
and you're like, what are you
thinking, Like where do you think this

2896
02:46:52.440 --> 02:46:56.360
market is? Is this like your
dream because you love time crisis? Is

2897
02:46:56.399 --> 02:46:58.159
this the thing you've been you're being
told to do? Like I'd let the

2898
02:46:58.200 --> 02:47:01.639
mindset of that up, or like
how much you push innovation, how much

2899
02:47:01.639 --> 02:47:03.239
you're just making like a thing to
take dollars from people? Sure? Sure,

2900
02:47:03.680 --> 02:47:07.760
I think Too Human would be real
good. Yeah, Yes, So

2901
02:47:07.879 --> 02:47:09.360
that's exactly what I'm talking about.
Like I'd love to hear all the big

2902
02:47:09.440 --> 02:47:11.920
talk, like early in development about
how this is going to change everything and

2903
02:47:11.959 --> 02:47:15.680
this trilogy is just gonna, you
know, narrative experience is going to be

2904
02:47:15.959 --> 02:47:20.079
like you know, then follow it
as the reviews came before that even there

2905
02:47:20.159 --> 02:47:22.559
was the big blow up when the
first E three previews were getting out there,

2906
02:47:22.280 --> 02:47:26.879
Dennis Dyak kind of lost a shit
about it and then the review stuff

2907
02:47:26.920 --> 02:47:28.879
and you know, yeah, that'd
be the number one any any develpment process

2908
02:47:28.959 --> 02:47:33.040
with some kind of drama going on
behind it, super fast spoilers literally every

2909
02:47:33.200 --> 02:47:35.399
well, that's what I mean.
That's why it's like, that's why I'm

2910
02:47:35.399 --> 02:47:39.520
saying I would constate crises all that. I would love to actually be the

2911
02:47:39.600 --> 02:47:43.200
fly on the wall. It's probably
the most get to hear all that stuff.

2912
02:47:43.239 --> 02:47:46.520
It's probably like the weirdly most positive
like happy dan Ker World swirling around

2913
02:47:46.520 --> 02:47:50.799
the most negative like fighty sad dan
Reyker World. Like it's all I'm just

2914
02:47:52.079 --> 02:47:52.719
think of all in terms of dan
Rikers. I don't know, have a

2915
02:47:52.760 --> 02:47:58.239
fight sad world. Deep inside your
turmoil, I can see it. It's

2916
02:47:58.239 --> 02:48:03.000
like that downburst that you described,
but a microburs in my heart. It's

2917
02:48:03.040 --> 02:48:07.520
your Skyrain bucket in your heart.
No, but it's like all every development

2918
02:48:07.520 --> 02:48:11.079
process is full with like all this
drama, and it would be sort of

2919
02:48:11.120 --> 02:48:13.799
interesting, but it's also like it's
just exhausting. Oh, I'm sure every

2920
02:48:13.879 --> 02:48:16.120
day, like I I'm trying to
envision it, like it would not be

2921
02:48:16.319 --> 02:48:20.159
the sanitized like you know, they
did like a little behind the scenes for

2922
02:48:20.280 --> 02:48:22.959
you know, The Last of Us
or a bunch of a lot of games

2923
02:48:22.000 --> 02:48:26.760
get that treatment these days, But
it wouldn't be the like publisher sanctioned like

2924
02:48:26.840 --> 02:48:30.440
Soccer in Version actually documentary y yeah, like at a bare minimum, like

2925
02:48:30.559 --> 02:48:31.959
VH one Behind the Music of Like, you know, it's been twenty years

2926
02:48:33.000 --> 02:48:35.280
and everybody's at least speaking candidly.
Indy Game the movie is pretty fascinating.

2927
02:48:35.399 --> 02:48:39.719
Yeah, any game Indie Game is
is kind of one of the closest things

2928
02:48:39.799 --> 02:48:43.520
that I can think of to that
Broken Age has some moments. Yeah.

2929
02:48:43.559 --> 02:48:45.840
So I once the other half of
that game comes out, I hope that

2930
02:48:45.840 --> 02:48:48.440
they sell those documentaries because I want
to buy those and watch them. Yeah,

2931
02:48:48.079 --> 02:48:50.040
but I just you don't want to
watch it until the game is done.

2932
02:48:52.639 --> 02:48:54.959
Yeah. I wish there was a
lot more of that. It's hard

2933
02:48:54.959 --> 02:48:56.280
because it's like you talking about behind
the music as a as a comp for

2934
02:48:56.399 --> 02:49:00.520
and it's like, you know,
you're talking about telling the stories of people

2935
02:49:00.680 --> 02:49:03.639
plus there. You know, let's
say three manager publisher people from like a

2936
02:49:03.719 --> 02:49:07.399
record label, right, and so
telling the story of like how eight people

2937
02:49:07.399 --> 02:49:09.559
saw the world and like the and
the reviews there in a game, it's

2938
02:49:09.639 --> 02:49:13.840
literally you're talking about sometimes two hundred
three interview r Right, It's like telling

2939
02:49:13.879 --> 02:49:16.360
the stories that happen inside of a
group of three hundred people. Is like,

2940
02:49:16.600 --> 02:49:18.680
Hey, why don't you just do
a documentary on like the year of

2941
02:49:18.799 --> 02:49:20.879
height your high school graduating class like
four people And you're like, oh,

2942
02:49:22.399 --> 02:49:26.079
that's incredibly complicated. How do we
make sure of thee getting there? Said?

2943
02:49:26.559 --> 02:49:30.559
I saw a documentary on the crew
of the USS Nimits. That's a

2944
02:49:30.600 --> 02:49:31.840
lot of people think that. That's
the point I think is that you'd have

2945
02:49:31.959 --> 02:49:35.559
to you'd have to cherry pig like
a handful of personalities to focus on and

2946
02:49:35.719 --> 02:49:39.280
like you know, you have to
build a narrative and it's called carrier.

2947
02:49:39.360 --> 02:49:41.000
Yeah, I believe it. I
mean, but that's my point is you're

2948
02:49:41.040 --> 02:49:43.920
you're building a story. It's not
like you don't then learn like the story

2949
02:49:45.000 --> 02:49:48.440
of this game. You learn like
the people's perspectives who you share select out

2950
02:49:48.559 --> 02:49:52.719
yep. I would also say building
the bastion, Yeah, is that the

2951
02:49:52.760 --> 02:49:54.879
time when you gave those guys a
camera and they fold themselves were like,

2952
02:49:54.280 --> 02:49:58.799
you give that camera back. No, no, they still and apparently they've

2953
02:49:58.799 --> 02:50:03.879
been filming. I don't know if
that I really I'm sure it's not fascinating

2954
02:50:03.879 --> 02:50:05.239
stuff. I'm sure it's not the
case. But I love the idea that

2955
02:50:05.319 --> 02:50:09.639
they have filmed to this day,
that like they've finished a whole other game

2956
02:50:09.079 --> 02:50:13.200
tapes. They've been buying more and
more tapes. They're like they've got a

2957
02:50:13.280 --> 02:50:16.440
huge tape budget. Yeah, they
filmed all of Transistor. They're filming whatever,

2958
02:50:16.440 --> 02:50:20.159
They're doing nothing. They just they
just they just will never stop filming

2959
02:50:20.239 --> 02:50:22.639
until we ask him for the camera
back. In my mind, Vinnie just

2960
02:50:22.760 --> 02:50:24.440
actually has a spam filter stead.
I probably Greg has been emailing him at

2961
02:50:26.959 --> 02:50:31.959
Sam, you never posted anything.
It's really fucking weird. While we're shilling

2962
02:50:33.000 --> 02:50:37.200
documentaries, I watched there's one that's
new on Netflix called Particle Frenzy. It's

2963
02:50:37.200 --> 02:50:41.600
about the uh, the completion and
the activation of the large Hadron collider okay

2964
02:50:41.719 --> 02:50:45.520
over like four years. Like if
you're at all interested, then one of

2965
02:50:45.520 --> 02:50:48.040
those things where their constant being like
this might destroy the universe. No,

2966
02:50:48.200 --> 02:50:50.639
no, no, they that you
know that was a bunch of bullshit.

2967
02:50:50.319 --> 02:50:54.319
There was not I doubted that it
was good. There was no validity to

2968
02:50:54.440 --> 02:50:56.239
that. They spend about thirty seconds
on that. Okay, but it's it's

2969
02:50:56.280 --> 02:51:00.760
super interesting to see because you know
that's cern is like thousands of p and

2970
02:51:00.799 --> 02:51:03.760
Switzerland working on that stuff. So
seeing seeing inside that world was was really

2971
02:51:03.840 --> 02:51:11.600
cool. Was the one that just
came out about baseball but the only independent

2972
02:51:11.440 --> 02:51:15.280
minor league games I saw. I
forget the name of that thing, but

2973
02:51:15.360 --> 02:51:18.120
I saw that described Yeah is in
Oregon. Yeah, yeah, I saw

2974
02:51:18.200 --> 02:51:20.959
that. I wanted to watch that. Yeah, really really good artisanal baseball

2975
02:51:22.239 --> 02:51:28.920
in Portland actually locally, locally sourced. Uh. A handful of more emails?

2976
02:51:28.040 --> 02:51:31.840
Really, I could weeks just stop, no, do whatever you want,

2977
02:51:31.879 --> 02:51:35.200
then keep going. I had a
lot of emails this week. I

2978
02:51:35.239 --> 02:51:39.200
feel like the volume of email is
increasing. I judge it by the number

2979
02:51:39.200 --> 02:51:41.239
of pages in the in the Gmail
interface. Yeah, it's like six pages

2980
02:51:41.280 --> 02:51:46.520
of emails this week. It's a
lot. Yeah, apologies to well,

2981
02:51:46.559 --> 02:51:48.520
I should say thanks to everybody who
writes an apologies that I can't read everything.

2982
02:51:48.639 --> 02:51:54.200
But we would need an email only
podcast for that. And now that

2983
02:51:54.239 --> 02:51:56.440
I've said it, fuck, don't
do it. Everybody's gonna ask for it.

2984
02:51:56.959 --> 02:52:01.719
Do it daily stream where you read
email. Several of these that I

2985
02:52:01.799 --> 02:52:05.520
pulled actually are sort of Jeff appropriate, So maybe we'll hang on to those.

2986
02:52:07.040 --> 02:52:09.680
Yeah, we can rull over,
but I feel like we should finish

2987
02:52:11.879 --> 02:52:18.520
with an email called Barkerville. Yes, let's dig in, Brake, I

2988
02:52:18.600 --> 02:52:20.639
need to hand you hold of something. Did you ever, by the way,

2989
02:52:20.719 --> 02:52:24.559
watch the video we were talking about? Yes, okay, yes I

2990
02:52:24.600 --> 02:52:26.000
did. It was pretty great.
So you know what we're talking about,

2991
02:52:26.280 --> 02:52:31.239
the song and the beautiful concept Rice. It is so beautiful. Drake is

2992
02:52:31.280 --> 02:52:35.879
holding in his hands the book.
Yes, Yeah, that book showed up

2993
02:52:35.879 --> 02:52:39.760
in the mail a couple of weeks
ago from discoverer Trybomb, user of tests.

2994
02:52:39.760 --> 02:52:43.200
I ract sent that in. I'll
let you thumb through that, but

2995
02:52:43.280 --> 02:52:50.360
I'll read this email first. Uh. This is from Joe. I intended

2996
02:52:50.360 --> 02:52:52.600
to send this email after watching the
Vinivania when it happened, but totally forgot

2997
02:52:52.719 --> 02:52:58.840
until the upf last week. Barkerville
once the largest city north of San Francisco

2998
02:52:58.959 --> 02:53:01.879
and still preserved as a tourist location. I live about an hour away from

2999
02:53:01.920 --> 02:53:05.040
it and worked there as an actor. An actor. Yes, it was

3000
02:53:05.120 --> 02:53:09.239
one of those cities. Awesome.
We should go there. We should go

3001
02:53:09.280 --> 02:53:13.639
play that song in the middle of
that town that if you want to talk

3002
02:53:13.639 --> 02:53:16.639
about unraveling in the universe, let's
go do it. That's the singularity,

3003
02:53:16.879 --> 02:53:22.159
playing with forces you don't understand.
Dan asked if the book was a D

3004
02:53:22.239 --> 02:53:24.559
and D module, and that's not
far from the truth. For the people

3005
02:53:24.600 --> 02:53:28.159
that work there, everyone has to
dress in period appropriate costumes and serve various

3006
02:53:28.440 --> 02:53:31.719
roles. He spelled roles with two
l's, but I think he made they

3007
02:53:31.760 --> 02:53:37.680
serve roles when they are playing roles
day less total is it to think?

3008
02:53:37.760 --> 02:53:39.280
I think he means the other kind
of roles and as a role, Yes,

3009
02:53:39.319 --> 02:53:41.959
they play their parts. They are
playing parts. Yes. Aside from

3010
02:53:41.959 --> 02:53:48.000
civilians. The town is a fully
functioning blacksmith general stores, restaurants, bars,

3011
02:53:48.399 --> 02:53:50.680
a theater and stage that has live
shows, and many other period attractions.

3012
02:53:52.360 --> 02:53:54.120
Next time I get out that direction, I'll be sure to send you

3013
02:53:54.200 --> 02:53:56.280
guys some candy and trinkets from the
various stores, including a job breaker about

3014
02:53:56.280 --> 02:54:00.719
as large as your head. Wow, that sounds good changed his own.

3015
02:54:00.879 --> 02:54:03.719
Our town also has a yearly fair
in celebration of the town called God I

3016
02:54:03.760 --> 02:54:07.680
Can't Read. Our town also has
a yearly fair in celebration of the town

3017
02:54:07.760 --> 02:54:13.600
founder Billy Barker, called Billy Barker
Days Days Day. He says days.

3018
02:54:13.079 --> 02:54:16.079
Due to our proximity to the city, it more or less gridlocks the town.

3019
02:54:18.120 --> 02:54:20.559
When is it? He doesn't say, when's Billy Barker Day. He

3020
02:54:20.600 --> 02:54:24.239
doesn't say, But you can go
to Barkerville dot c A to get more

3021
02:54:24.280 --> 02:54:26.440
information. Get in the car,
We're going to Barker. Oh, we

3022
02:54:26.479 --> 02:54:30.639
should go to Barkerville. It's only
like an hour away. It seems totally

3023
02:54:30.719 --> 02:54:33.639
doable. He just He's included a
sizeable map that I guess I'll like tweet

3024
02:54:33.639 --> 02:54:39.440
out or something. It's a photographic
map with man. This book is Barkers

3025
02:54:39.479 --> 02:54:46.079
by the way, such historical locations
as McPherson's Watchmaker, Goldfield Bakery, Wendell

3026
02:54:46.200 --> 02:54:52.040
House, ce Strouss Dried Goods,
historic Chinatown. It was a it was

3027
02:54:52.079 --> 02:54:54.040
a mining town. Yeah, there
are a lot of Chinese people. A

3028
02:54:54.120 --> 02:54:58.200
gold mining town. It was part
of the gold rush, Eldorado gold panning.

3029
02:55:00.680 --> 02:55:03.280
Yeah, that's wow. Sound like
it sounds like Barkerville's health in place.

3030
02:55:03.719 --> 02:55:07.719
I this book. Fresh beef and
pork were so important to the carnivorous

3031
02:55:07.799 --> 02:55:13.440
miners. That's a weird description that
they were willing to pay the outrageous price

3032
02:55:13.479 --> 02:55:16.840
of fifty cents a pound. Men
men with a ranching background found settling cattle,

3033
02:55:16.840 --> 02:55:20.040
a cook away to prosperity, then
digging and cold gravel too, slaughter

3034
02:55:20.040 --> 02:55:24.000
house to supplyed Barris retail out.
This was beat Yeah, Barkerville, what

3035
02:55:24.079 --> 02:55:26.879
the Barkerville? I was flipping through
that thing and I just landed on a

3036
02:55:26.959 --> 02:55:30.360
random page that was talking about hurdy
gurdy women. Yep, why did you

3037
02:55:30.399 --> 02:55:33.399
see that? I think I scam
passed. Okay, they were like a

3038
02:55:33.600 --> 02:55:37.840
Dutch. I believe they're Dutch immigrants
who were basically indentured servants to a hurdy

3039
02:55:37.879 --> 02:55:41.760
gurdy man. Man the Xbox game
is about. I guess it's not it's

3040
02:55:41.760 --> 02:55:46.479
that wasn't Madam Fanny's Ben Dixon Saloon
and boarding house. I believe that was

3041
02:55:46.559 --> 02:55:50.440
a separate and that was a separate, respectable establishment, well respectables, let's

3042
02:55:50.680 --> 02:55:56.399
say things you can take back,
but yeah, it's pretty nuts. Drew's

3043
02:55:56.479 --> 02:56:01.120
legs had given out finally, all
right, Yeah, Barkerville. So we're

3044
02:56:01.120 --> 02:56:03.719
going to Barkerville. Okay, next
time we get a chance, we'll go

3045
02:56:03.719 --> 02:56:07.879
to Barkville. Alright, you're in. You live here now literally, whenever

3046
02:56:07.920 --> 02:56:11.479
you want dood dreck, you live
here. It's to Barkerville. Barkerville,

3047
02:56:11.840 --> 02:56:13.920
like, right now, let's go
get dinner. I don't know about they

3048
02:56:13.959 --> 02:56:16.719
got functional restaurants. I don't you
know, they might not be open.

3049
02:56:16.799 --> 02:56:20.399
You know, it's kind of sounds
like you are some fair weather Barkerville,

3050
02:56:20.399 --> 02:56:24.120
you know, pretty much, goep
on, pretty much, go to bed

3051
02:56:24.360 --> 02:56:28.120
the sunset Barkerville. You know,
if the sunrise comes early, gonta,

3052
02:56:28.239 --> 02:56:31.079
get this wow, get that breakfast, stick to your ribs and go to

3053
02:56:31.120 --> 02:56:35.799
Barkerville alone. The mines like Vinnie
Caravelle before me. I will go to

3054
02:56:35.879 --> 02:56:37.879
Barkerville. I will, I will
slay. I'm coming with you. We

3055
02:56:37.920 --> 02:56:41.399
gotta go at night. That's the
one that's when it gets dangerous. I

3056
02:56:41.520 --> 02:56:45.760
really think the streets of Barkerville or
oh god, you're right, yep,

3057
02:56:46.000 --> 02:56:48.479
that's when they come out. The
best part is that is Barkerville is an

3058
02:56:48.479 --> 02:56:52.079
old timey town in costume for us
to go explore. And then at the

3059
02:56:52.159 --> 02:56:54.399
end of it, this is just
a taco bell for damn man, I'll

3060
02:56:54.440 --> 02:56:56.879
fuck it. Let's just go to
a video tour. Of Barkerville. Yea,

3061
02:56:58.000 --> 02:57:00.319
whenever you want. You guys,
got premium member. You need to

3062
02:57:00.360 --> 02:57:01.520
get something to right, that's true. What else are you're doing? It's

3063
02:57:01.879 --> 02:57:05.319
come on, man. Content has
been flowing like wine around here. I

3064
02:57:05.440 --> 02:57:09.600
watched it work, but we will
in fact look into our bar Parkerville.

3065
02:57:09.680 --> 02:57:13.399
Visit there go from the near future
now that John Drake is local. For

3066
02:57:13.520 --> 02:57:16.280
now it is my job. From
what I said, we're excited to have

3067
02:57:16.440 --> 02:57:20.239
you here, and I guess that's
gonna do it this week. Got anything

3068
02:57:20.280 --> 02:57:28.399
you want to plug before we boot
you out? PlayStation no? Yeah,

3069
02:57:28.680 --> 02:57:31.120
go, I don't know. No, it's go buy a PlayStation four if

3070
02:57:31.120 --> 02:57:33.680
you don't have one, Yeah,
get ready for destiny. I can buy

3071
02:57:33.719 --> 02:57:37.200
the bait. It was great as
an impartial third party, I can.

3072
02:57:37.360 --> 02:57:39.239
I can endorse that for you,
that recommendation. Give you your money after

3073
02:57:39.280 --> 02:57:43.600
the show. It's a pretty chip. Another check cleared. I don't have

3074
02:57:43.639 --> 02:57:46.280
any money. I pay rent in
San Francisco. It's a pretty small console.

3075
02:57:48.239 --> 02:57:50.079
All right, Well, thank you
guys. I guess that's gonna do

3076
02:57:50.159 --> 02:57:56.440
it. So come back next week
for more of the giant pomdcast. Oh

3077
02:58:24.319 --> 02:58:26.520
is this close to excellently drinking my
contacts. Just a second ago, you

3078
02:58:26.520 --> 02:58:30.920
put your contact You took my contact
out and put them in the diet mountain

3079
02:58:30.959 --> 02:58:31.840
dew, and I went to go
ship it, and I realized, I

3080
02:58:33.479 --> 02:58:37.079
is there just water in that cup
though? Or is there mountain dew left?

3081
02:58:37.200 --> 02:58:41.840
But but you're throwing your contacts away. Yeah, they're not the disposable

3082
02:58:41.879 --> 02:58:43.559
though, you're not. But my
point is you're not putting your contact and

3083
02:58:43.600 --> 02:58:46.280
they can have diamond dew and then
gonna put them back in your eyes later.

3084
02:58:48.000 --> 02:58:50.559
Even with your nightmare affinity for chemical
based foods, that's a terrible fucking

3085
02:58:50.600 --> 02:58:52.520
idea. Go blind. No,
I'm not gonna do that. Okay,

3086
02:58:52.559 --> 02:58:56.520
don't do that. I'm not that
concerned for your health and safety because like,

3087
02:58:56.559 --> 02:58:58.920
do what you want. But that
seems like a really bad would have

3088
02:58:58.959 --> 02:59:01.079
been really gross. I drank QUI
time, it would be weird. Yeah

3089
02:59:01.079 --> 02:59:03.639
well sure, yeah, okay,
as gross is drinking a lot of diamond

3090
02:59:03.680 --> 02:59:07.719
and dew with contexts in them,
like it's what I coke is fine.

3091
02:59:07.799 --> 02:59:13.360
I Coke's natural organic comes from the
ground, the aspartame mines of I'm gonna

3092
02:59:13.360 --> 02:59:16.840
go with Nebraska. Let's pick of
a state where you're from. Not Nebraska

3093
02:59:16.840 --> 02:59:20.239
you're from. I was gonna say
Oklahoma, somewhere in the middle there that

3094
02:59:20.360 --> 02:59:24.760
like vertical stripe, not Texas,
not the Dakota is somewhere between Bible Belt.

3095
02:59:24.840 --> 02:59:28.040
So yeah, sure, like the
notch of the Bible Belt. Tornado

3096
02:59:28.079 --> 02:59:31.799
alley, Well all right, yeah, do you ever have a tornado a

3097
02:59:31.879 --> 02:59:35.600
thing? Yes? Yeah, oh
yeah, I've seen yeah, yeah,

3098
02:59:35.680 --> 02:59:39.239
I've had a couple of crazy tornado
all right. So they're not like earthquakes

3099
02:59:39.280 --> 02:59:41.920
here where it's like, have you
ever felt one? I mean, everyone

3100
02:59:43.000 --> 02:59:46.040
that's lived in Kansas or down there
I said a million times of having to

3101
02:59:46.120 --> 02:59:48.040
go down to their basement. Yeah, and uh, you know, warnings

3102
02:59:48.040 --> 02:59:52.040
and stuff. But yeah, I
did see one tornado in college, and

3103
02:59:52.079 --> 02:59:54.879
you're supposed to go to the basement
and sitting near the wall. We went

3104
02:59:54.959 --> 02:59:56.399
up to the top floor of my
dorm so we could see it, and

3105
02:59:56.840 --> 03:00:01.639
we saw it taking shingles, lot
roofs and stuff. These are the life

3106
03:00:01.719 --> 03:00:03.600
choices that I question. Yeah,
then there's I should say this other story

3107
03:00:03.639 --> 03:00:07.280
for when we're on sometime, but
I think we just like you haven't cut

3108
03:00:07.399 --> 03:00:11.840
right, Come on, this is
gold, this is gold. Do you

3109
03:00:11.879 --> 03:00:16.120
want me to tell anyone, Is
anyone comfortable? Is anyone uncomfortable? I

3110
03:00:16.159 --> 03:00:20.120
should say with anything you just said
going in this podcast, No, I'm

3111
03:00:20.159 --> 03:00:22.879
more excited about this conversation than all
the weird things you made me talk about

3112
03:00:22.879 --> 03:00:24.840
in the past ten minutes. Then
consider it's done, So I tell the

3113
03:00:24.920 --> 03:00:30.200
weird Yeah, technically not a tornado
story. This is a microburst story.

3114
03:00:30.280 --> 03:00:33.000
Are people around here are familiar with
those? The way weatherman I always explained

3115
03:00:33.000 --> 03:00:35.840
it in the Midwest was it's like, imagine there's a giant bucket of water

3116
03:00:37.120 --> 03:00:39.079
and the clouds and then all of
a sudden, someone turned it over.

3117
03:00:41.200 --> 03:00:46.319
That's the weather man explained it to
five year olds. So yes, the

3118
03:00:46.360 --> 03:00:50.719
meteorological technical Yeah, like water bucking
the sky. There's a whole bunch of

3119
03:00:50.760 --> 03:00:52.920
water in the sky and imagine it
all gets dumped out at once and the

3120
03:00:52.959 --> 03:00:56.040
water hits the ground like crazy,
real hard, and then all the all

3121
03:00:56.079 --> 03:00:58.399
the air was like crazy, Yeah, like a tidal wave of air.

3122
03:00:58.680 --> 03:01:01.399
Yeah, it's crazy, but it's
similar to tornado. It does the same

3123
03:01:01.440 --> 03:01:05.559
type of damage. So there was
one night at the bars in college and

3124
03:01:05.680 --> 03:01:09.120
Lawrence, Kansas, and we're just
getting real drunk, and we started talking

3125
03:01:09.120 --> 03:01:13.959
about Star Wars, and I realized
that the sultizing. I started realizing that

3126
03:01:13.319 --> 03:01:16.719
it had been a long time since
I had watched like I think Empire and

3127
03:01:16.879 --> 03:01:20.280
Return of the Jedi, and so
we're just talking more and more about Star

3128
03:01:20.280 --> 03:01:22.319
Wars. I'm getting drunk and more
excited, and I'm like, tryd I

3129
03:01:22.360 --> 03:01:24.600
just want to watch all the Star
Wars movies tonight. And so at two

3130
03:01:24.600 --> 03:01:28.159
o'clock it's the last call. Already
super wasted. I realized I was going

3131
03:01:28.200 --> 03:01:30.159
through a kick where I was making
a much of black and Tans. So

3132
03:01:30.200 --> 03:01:33.799
I had a fridge full of guinness
and harp and I just went home by

3133
03:01:33.879 --> 03:01:35.879
myself and I was like, I'm
just gonna drink black and Tans all night

3134
03:01:35.959 --> 03:01:39.360
and watch the entire trilogy. And
this is already at two in the morning.

3135
03:01:39.440 --> 03:01:41.840
I've already just wasted. And I
just sit there and I'm like,

3136
03:01:41.840 --> 03:01:45.079
all right, I'm just gonna hunker
down, put on some pajama pants,

3137
03:01:45.159 --> 03:01:48.760
gonna just watch every Star Wars,
well the real ones. And so I

3138
03:01:48.879 --> 03:01:52.280
sit down, I watch all the
New Hope, watch all Empire Strikes Back.

3139
03:01:54.079 --> 03:01:56.959
I'm just I'm real, real drunk, and it's now what's six in

3140
03:01:56.000 --> 03:02:00.840
the morning. Oh boy, probably
close to that. Yeah, and then

3141
03:02:00.840 --> 03:02:03.000
I get I get to the end
of Return of the Jedi, so now

3142
03:02:03.040 --> 03:02:09.440
it's like eight. Yeah, it's
like morning morning. Some of the window.

3143
03:02:09.440 --> 03:02:11.559
I was just like black in there. I was like sitting there drunk

3144
03:02:11.639 --> 03:02:15.639
watching Star Wars eight in the morning, and it gets to the end of

3145
03:02:15.799 --> 03:02:18.319
a Return of the Jedi, and
it's doing the part where they're cutting back

3146
03:02:18.319 --> 03:02:20.520
and forth between like Luke in Vader
fighting and you got the stuff on the

3147
03:02:20.719 --> 03:02:24.079
moon, and then you got the
big space fight. In the middle of

3148
03:02:24.079 --> 03:02:26.200
the big space fight, you know, with Akbar and all that stuff,

3149
03:02:26.719 --> 03:02:30.000
I'm hearing these sounds that are just
crazy, and like I thought my speakers

3150
03:02:30.040 --> 03:02:31.280
were going nuts, and I was
like, I don't have this good of

3151
03:02:31.280 --> 03:02:35.799
surround sting, What the hell is
this? And I mute the space fight

3152
03:02:35.440 --> 03:02:39.559
and then I just hear crazy shit
happening outside. I opened the door.

3153
03:02:39.680 --> 03:02:43.639
Just imagine this. I am blindingly
drunk. I mean, I'm probably like

3154
03:02:43.799 --> 03:02:48.200
twenty something beers in at this point. You haven't slept. I haven't slept

3155
03:02:48.360 --> 03:02:50.680
for five hours. Yeah, more
than that, I probably like eight it

3156
03:02:50.760 --> 03:02:54.920
well, actually probably got five or
six. Yeah. Yeah, I opened

3157
03:02:54.000 --> 03:02:58.280
the door and the first thing I
see is like this roof like across the

3158
03:02:58.280 --> 03:03:03.479
street like getting ripped off, and
there's just like trees are falling down and

3159
03:03:03.600 --> 03:03:05.920
like just shingles are flying through the
area. And open the door and like

3160
03:03:07.000 --> 03:03:11.079
the sky is like this crazy brown
purple mix and like it just looks insane

3161
03:03:11.159 --> 03:03:13.799
and there's just wind. I have
no idea what the fuck is going on.

3162
03:03:13.040 --> 03:03:16.840
There's sirens going off, knocked out
all the power in the city,

3163
03:03:16.399 --> 03:03:20.719
like, but I mean that's all
it happens over what your DVD player.

3164
03:03:20.719 --> 03:03:24.000
I still eventually, like that night
through all these parties with camp fires and

3165
03:03:24.000 --> 03:03:28.000
stuff because there's no power or anything, and they're just trees down everywhere because

3166
03:03:28.000 --> 03:03:31.600
they were knocking down power lines.
But just imagine that moment of insanity of

3167
03:03:31.719 --> 03:03:35.319
me, that drunk opening the door
just like crude, just hell and all

3168
03:03:35.360 --> 03:03:37.760
this stuff happening. I can just
shut the door. I was. I

3169
03:03:37.799 --> 03:03:41.959
could picture You're just like calmly shutting
the door because and I just went and

3170
03:03:41.079 --> 03:03:45.440
sat my bed wasted. This can't
actually be happening. Good night. I

3171
03:03:45.600 --> 03:03:46.600
was like already on the bottom floor. So it's like I guess it just

3172
03:03:46.600 --> 03:03:50.840
goes sit in my closet. I
sat in my closet tell Armageddon stopped,

3173
03:03:52.239 --> 03:03:54.520
and I think I can't remember if
I finished the movie. Here you watched

3174
03:03:54.559 --> 03:03:56.959
Armageddon too, Yeah, yeah,
Oh that's the that's the biggest question is

3175
03:03:58.000 --> 03:03:58.959
if she went back and finished the
rest of the movie. I actually don't

3176
03:04:00.040 --> 03:04:01.479
remember if I did. I just
remember that moment distinctly. I just like,

3177
03:04:01.639 --> 03:04:07.479
what the shutting the door. You're
like seeing the like the half the

3178
03:04:07.600 --> 03:04:11.719
roof fucking come off in that state
and having no idea any of this was

3179
03:04:11.760 --> 03:04:16.879
happening beforehand. You're you're a unique
and specially human being. It was crazy. Yes,