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This episode may contain content of a
graphic nature, including descriptions of physical and

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sexual violence against adults, children,
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Hi everyone, I'm Talia and I'm
Tanya, and together we are Crimes and

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Consequences, a true crime podcast.
Hi Tanya, Hi Talia, how are

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you doing? You know? I'm
great? Me too. Life is a

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sweet fruit and a pisser. I
hope everybody else is doing great. I

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have a wonderfully exciting true crime story
for you guys all today. Are you

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ready for this one? Tanya?
I am. It's weird, right,

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I love the weird ones. They're
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get to the story. Well,
yeah, there you go. Awkward silence.

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The focus of the story is young
teen while I shouldn't say teen,

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a young couple, and it's it's
kind of a well known story. It's

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about Jasmine Richardson. But I didn't
know this story, and we were talking

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before we started, and you knew
a little bit about it, but not

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all the details. No, not
all the details, so you write it

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for him. I am Jasmine.
Richardson was born in March of nineteen ninety

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three, and she was born in
a small town in Alberta, Canada,

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So this is Canadian story. She
was born to Dabrah that's her mom.

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She's forty eight years old. And
Mark that's her dad. He's forty two.

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Richardson a little bit of a background. Mark and Debora met in nineteen

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ninety while they were working out at
the gym. That's cute, it's great.

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They were married in Toronto, but
they moved to Medicine Hat, Alberta

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after being married for fifteen years.
And I've heard of Medicine Hat, but

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I don't know much about it.
Mark was described as a handsome man and

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Debora was described as absolutely beautiful.
Oh not that that matters, because ugly

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people's matter, too. Ugly people's
lives count. Deborah was known for her

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huge smile. The Richardson family they
were members of the local church, and

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they were your typical, happy,
ordinary family. And when I stay happy,

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I just mean typical family. I
don't know how happy they all were.

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It all looks nice from the outside. Right and before the faithful night.

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Mark and Deborah had been happily married
for two decades before they had children.

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Both of them were recovering substance abusers. But they completely turned their lives

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around and they ended up creating a
successful life for not only themselves but their

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marriage and their family. And they
were doing really well and they had no

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skeletons in their closet like they had
this past, but they got beyond it

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and they literally made this amazing life
together. Tupper was known as a fierce

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mama who would do anything to protect
her kids because they did have kids.

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In nineteen ninety three, Deborah gave
birth to Jasmine, and Jasmine was a

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sweet, beautiful, perfect child.
She had a gorgeous smile. She was

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part of her school's fine arts program. She did really well in school.

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She loved to make music, she
loved to draw. She was just like

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an ordinary healthy kid, and her
parents made sure that she attended a Christian

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school that was very important to them. At that school, she befriended everyone.

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Everybody just liked Jasmine. One of
the things that stood out about Jasmine

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was that she would go out of
her way for the outcasts or the new

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people that were at school and try
to make them feel more welcomed. Jasmine

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had a little brother. His name
was Jacob. He was four years younger

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than she was, and he was
kind of considered the class clown. All

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a funny little brothers. He liked
to make people laugh. He loved Star

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Wars and hockey, and together,
Jasmine and Jacob had a really like instead

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of sibling rivalry, they had a
lot of love for each other. Jasmine

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was always taking care of Jacob and
she just adored him, unlike how I

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feel about my little brother. But
anyway, Mark and Debba ran a tight

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ship, and they monitored their children's
activities carefully. Some people might consider their

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children to be sheltered, but other
people might consider it the way you should

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probably parent now, not that I'm
the parent of the year, but their

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online conversations were closely monitored. Yeah, you got to watch that. They

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were just protective of their children.
When Jasmine reached her teen year, she

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began going down a dark path.
Oh no, and she changed drastically.

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She started getting into the goth culture, which is fine. We all go

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through phases. I was a stoner, I'm not a stoner now. Some

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people who were goth. You are
whatever be you growing up in a Christian

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home. For the most part,
this was pretty shocking for her parents.

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Clearly, Jasmine is rebelling here.
She's an artsy kind of teenager. She

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liked artwork, and now she's into
goth culture. She started listening to heavy

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metal music. Oh yeah, oh
shit, I still listen to it,

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and I'm relatively okay. She started
wearing black clothes obviously, right and heavy

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I makeup, and her body matured
early on, and she developed a womanly

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figure earlier than most kids for your
age. She was only eleven basically when

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she went through puberty. That yeah, and people to do go through puberty

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at eleven, but she really was
developed by then. It's the point of

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all that she looked a lot older
than she was. On a little side

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note, when children develop early,
there's an increased risk of psychosocial problems,

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including substance abuse, depression, and
early sexual behavior. And throughout the entire

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timeline of what I'm going to tell
you, Jasmine is only twelve years old,

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So hold on, tight, hold
on tight. Jasmine started creating profiles

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on different websites, and she portrayed
herself as much older than eleven years old.

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She listed some of her interests on
her profile as are you ready for

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this? She's interested in serial killers, criminal psychology, the Moonlight, kinky

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shit, blood and hatchets. Oh
no. She listed some of her heroes

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as Marilyn Manson, which you know
what I like his music, Okay,

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don't judge me, Batman, and
Jeoffrey Dahmer. Oh no, she's twelve.

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She's being very edgy, so edgy, so edgy, although I have

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to admit my profile may contain some
of those things as well, if I

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were to make a profile about myself
and she's literally referring to the kinky shit,

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Yeah, I forgot about the kinky
shit. It was around summer or

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fall of two thousand and five.
Jasmine was going into seventh grade, and

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her teachers instantly noticed changes within her. She had fully embraced the goth culture,

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and she was wearing miniskirts, fish
nuts, spiked collars, that makeup

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I was telling you about. And
you know this is a Christian school.

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Yeah, I'm sure that was a
violation of their dress code. The school

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staff would call Deborah and Mark about
Jasmine the clove she's wearing. But Deborah

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and Mark. They didn't really do
much about it, and I'm sure they

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thought she's going through a phase.
I would because she probably was. Their

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thought process was that their daughter wasn't
hurting anyone, so what does it matter

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really what she's wearing. They were
just happy that she was still a good

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kid because she was and she wasn't
acting out. She wasn't doing anything wrong.

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She's just expressing her artistic I don't
know, sid side, Okay,

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I get that. I mean,
you know, you let things slide if

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your kid behave exactly you know,
like okay, fine, you don't know

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about the fishnets. But I mean, I don't judge. I have friends

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that leather kids. That's fine.
I don't judge. In November of two

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thousand and five, Jasmine began turning
to more goth social media sites and she

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made a lot more profiles on a
lot of different websites. She would pick

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these morbid screen names and would portray
herself again as being much older than she

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was in the pictures she displayed on
the website. She would have thought she

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was like seventeen, eighteen years old, but again she's only twelve. And

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she created this persona on these sites
as being emotional and dangerous. She would

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post lyrics from bands like Slipknot.
My daughter listened to slip Knot working on

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I listened to slip Knot too.
I'm okay, I think, she says,

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my therapist. And then she would
post excerpts from Edgar all Poe.

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But then things got even more dramatic
and it went downhill really quickly. She

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started communicating with twenty three year old
Jeremy Stinky. Let me tell you about

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Jeremy Stinky. He was a high
school dropout from medicine had Alberta. His

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mother was an alcoholic and she had
a lot of boyfriends. Some of those

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boyfriends abused Jeremy in his childhood.
From around the age of two, Jeremy

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would be beaten and sometimes badly,
by his own father. You know,

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he had a mom and a dad
and he was just getting beaten. His

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mother knew about him being beaten by
the men, but she didn't do anything

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about it. Jeremy said later that
he and his siblings, because he ended

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up having more siblings, would be
tied up and have to watch as the

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other siblings beaten. God, I
hate people so much. Even before his

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parents split. His mom got married
a few times, and one of her

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husbands shoved Jeremy's head into a freezer. Oh, Jeremy's head beating put in

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a freezer was how he was punished
when he would try to step in and

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stop his stepdad from hurting his mom. He was constantly abused, and then

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he would witness, of course,
intense abuse of his siblings and his mother.

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At school, he was bullied.
But you know what I feel like,

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from now on, I'm crossing that
out because we're all bullied at school.

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We really are. That's true.
You were. Oh yeah, I

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was bullied. I was. I
was probably a bully. I was probably

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a bully too at some point.
But I die. I definitely got bullied.

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I did. And guess what,
Okay, I'm not a serious We're

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fine. Yeah, we're fine.
Everybody, I guess, just my therapist.

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He was nicknamed Stinky Well, his
last name is stinky, Yes,

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stinky at is close. By the
time he met Jasmine, he'd already tried

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to commit suicide once. Jeremy saw
himself as a I can't even say this

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with straight face, a three hundred
year old werewolfs stop it. And he

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was part of a brotherhood of werewolves. I'm not really sure why. He

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never had a lot of friends,
and he moved a lot in his childhood,

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so he never kept friendships because they
were always moving. But do you

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remember how Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob
Thornton would wear a vial of each other's

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blood around their Now, yes,
I remember, he did that too.

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I'm not sure whose blood he was
wearing, maybe his own. I don't

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know. He did that too because
it's super cool. This is fucking weird.

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He did a lot of heavy drugs
and he drink. He would cut

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himself. I'm sure you're not surprised. And he dropped out of school in

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the beginning of the sophomore year of
high school. He tried to take some

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classes to get a ged, but
he never finished. He's probably never showed.

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He eventually moved out of his mom's
house and moved in with some friends.

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He would do this back and forth, go from like his mom's house

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to his friend's house, and then, like I said, back and forth.

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And he hadn't his defense, He
had no solid guidance. His mom

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didn't really want him and was obvious. She bought all these bad men in

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Jeremy's life and you know, just
allow the horrific things to happen to him.

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Jeremy had ADHD and he wasn't what
you would consider a ladies man.

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Women described him as hard to read, immature, and that his attitude his

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emotions came across as bipolar. He
would go from hot to cold. He

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tried to date people as age because
remember he's twenty three years old, but

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they weren't really interested in him because
he was emotionally immature. I mean,

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I never met him. I'm just
guessing hopefully have ADHD too. He could

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have been hyper, which sometimes it
is very difficult if you're bouncing off the

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walls. And yeah, that's true. But if he was diagnosed with it,

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they could have given him medicine.
So and if I'm telling you at

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ADHD, then he must spend diagnosed. But either way, let's go on

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with the story. Yes, he
ended up dating much younger girls. That's

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an issue. Some people say it
was a result of him being abused.

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Others say that he's just a predator. But you can let me know what

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you think, Okay. Jeremy began
getting in trouble with a law just in

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the beginning with petty crimes and drugs. At the age of twenty two,

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he embraced the culture. And when
I say embraced, he fully may love

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to that culture. And if you
want to see some pictures, he's got

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like smear die liner on his face
and all of that. He was able

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to find a lot of friends in
the email goth crowd. And I don't

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know anything about email because I'm old. I mean, if they're not the

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same, I apologize, I don't
know the difference. But he became very

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popular in that group. His friends
were younger, so they looked up to

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him. They thought of him as
someone that could guide them. And all

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the girls in this young emo goth
group just loved him. They're like,

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oh, he's twenty three. They
thought he was so sweet, and he

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just loved hanging out with him.
He could connect to them, and that's

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when in two thousand and five,
Jeremy met Jasmine. The two were introduced

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by Jasmine's thirteen year old friend Kaylee. Oh no, he's twenty three.

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No, that's just so wrong.
Kaylee tapped him up to Jasmine, but

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they didn't bond instantly. They had
a lot in common. They had the

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same interest emotions, circle of friends, and Jasmine began hanging out with older

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guys before she even met Jeremy,
which was a huge problem for her parents.

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Jasmine was going out with a lot
of her friend groups and her parents

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didn't approve anymore of what she was
doing and how she was acting. Remember

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before, I was like, they're
okay with the way she dresses, but

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now she's starting to act out.
And then she started arguing with her parents,

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and she just developed this hatred towards
her parents. The Christian school,

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I told you she was going too. They didn't even call the home anymore

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about the dress code violations. Now
they were calling about her attitude. They're

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like, you know, to let
her wear what she wants to wear,

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but now she's acting like a fucking
spoiled brad or. I don't know,

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I'm adding to the story. She's
doing something. She's doing something. The

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guidance counselor at Jasmine school called Jasmine's
house and let him know that Jasmine asked

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to be put in the foster care
system. What she wanted it stop it.

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The guy counselor was like, why
what, and she said she just

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hated her parents' rules. Okay,
well, the foster care system is not

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going to be any better. It's
gonna be a hundred times. I don't

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like rules. I don't like the
parents. Rules. They make me do

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the dishes, and I have like
the home. I know, I have

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twenty three year old boyfriend. They
disapprove of my friends. Come on,

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did she think the counselor was gonna
be on her side? Oh yeah,

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girl, let's get you into that
system. She was tired of being grounded.

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Oh dude, I spent my whole
fucking teenage years grounded. I did

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too. I spounded for a whole
fucking month once. I was grounded constantly

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for doing dumb shit. It's and
when I say dumb shit, it's like,

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oh, I didn't do the trash
when I was supposed to. Like

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I did nothing. I was a
good kid. I never did anything wrong,

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and I was always fucking grounded.
I have no comment. Always.

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Around Valentine's Day in two thousand and
six, Jeremy scent Jasmine and email asking

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if she would be his girlfriend.
Oh, they had sweet because we don't

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have the balls to just like talk
to somebody anymore. And okay, she's

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twelve, she probably they went on
their first date and intended a punk rock

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show. I don't even know.
I think the email was before their first

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fucking date. Later on, Jeremy
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sixteen years old, and that makes
it okay. I guess yeah, it's

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still fucking gross. Jasmine said she
told them she was thirteen. The two

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kept the relationship a secret from Jasmine's
parents, but they would communicate often on

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the same social media sites in it. I don't know exactly which ones they

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were because it's two thousand and six, probably my Space or whatever it was.

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On one of the profiles of Jeremy, he mentioned how much he absolutely

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hated sex workers and how he would
love to kill them and play with their

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dead corpse. What that's not a
red flag? Right? Like? What

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that's public too, He's made this
public. His profile biography reflected how much

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he hated cops and he was racist
too, Oh Jesus. But Jasmine ended

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up falling in love with Jeremy,
and he told her how much she loved

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her. Gross. At one point, Jasmine ended up being grounded indefinitely,

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which, like I said, taking
notes from my parents, right. She

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had left her little brother alone in
the house after being asked to babysit him,

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she just left and he's eight.
Her parents went out to some social

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event and Jasmine's like, you know, I don't feel like babysitting. No,

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so they just left him alone.
He got really scared when he called

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his parents and they're like, where's
Jasmine. He's like, I don't know,

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I don't know. I'm all alone. And then after that she was

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banned from seeing Jeremy, but she
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they did, as I said before, check her online stuff. But where

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there's a will, I always say, where there's a will, there's a

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way. One night, Jeremy wrote
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be with her and be alone together. He called her his cuddle bunny.

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Gross gross and that was via email. Gross funny because written right next to

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this is the word gross. Deborah
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she was having with Jeremy. They
knew she was somehow communicating with him,

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so they ended up taking her computer
away and they literally packed it up,

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oh Man, which pissed her off. She would vent to her friends about

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her parents, But we all do
I still bitch. Even Jasmine's friends,

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though, agreed with her parents,
and they're like, you know, Jeremy

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is weird and gross and he is
gross, Like he's gross. You guys

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can see the pictures of him.
He's kind of gross. Most of her

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friends actually hated Jeremy really, and
Jeremy's friends they didn't really think it was

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appropriate that he's hanging out with a
twelve year old either, just so you

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know, he's got this group,
they've got this group of people, but

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they didn't necessarily think, hey,
yeah, twenty three year olds should be

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with a twelve year old. They
were concerned, and even if she was

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sixteen, said, you know,
it's kind of inappropriate, like you shouldn't

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meet you know, she's just in
seventh grade, right, Honestly, I'd

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be like, what the fuck's the
matter with you, dude? I wouldn't

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be friends with a twenty three year
old that was dating a twelve year old,

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just be honest, honest, very
creepy and cross. Jasmine snuck out

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one night to see Jeremy. Prior
to this, Jeremy had sent Jasmine an

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email asking if the two could get
together so perhaps they could kill people.

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What gether Jeremy said, quote I
miss you more than I miss killing people.

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Oh good, Yeah, this is
so stupid, you know what Jasmine

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said? She said, killing people
sounds fun. I'm so irritated right now.

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She snuck out. Jeremy gave her
a gift that was a vial of

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his own blood. Yeah. She
was just so yeah, so like trendy

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and edgy, like you said ed
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when the two could get together so
that they could quote kill more pitiful souls

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their favorite movie, Natural Born Killer. I was just gonna say, is

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it natural Born Killer? They wanted
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to make the victims Jasmine's family.
Really, but before I tell you more,

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we're gonna take a quick break.
Jeremy mentioned that he wanted to kill

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Jasmine's entire family. She's like okay, and he told a friend of his.

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At one point, he said they
wanted to be like Mickey and Mallory

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from Natural Born Killers Stone Yeah,
I think so, and he wanted to

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start a killing spree across all of
Canada. Meanwhile, Jasmine's parents are trying

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to figure out where their daughter was
what went wrong what's going on? What

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the hell? Yeah, why did
she act like this hateful little monster?

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And why did she tell the guidance
counselor she wanted to go to foster care?

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Can you imagine? Like? What
the hell? So they decided to

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put Jasmine into family counseling. They
were all going to go to family counseling.

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Ever, a few sessions they did
notice a change in Jasmine, so

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they gave a little bit more of
her privileges back. She was allowed to

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go to see some goth band shows
with her friends, but the catches,

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Mark and Debra said that they would
go with them. Oh shit, how

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mortifying to see some God you got
your parents every probably like what the hell?

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Jasmine agreed though she did yeah,
but at the show she ran off,

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of course, and Mark and Debra
they couldn't find her. They eventually

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did find her in the alleyway making
out with Jeremy. She was grounded again

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and definitely by the time her phone, because she had a phone and her

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computer were taken away, Jasmine began
going to libraries, oh shit, and

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using their internet. Mom, God, because I think I'm libraries study,

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study and meet my friends. No, you don't mean your friends and studying.

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Yeah, I'm just gonna go studied
by myself and needs silence. Well,

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she did go to the library,
but that's where she communicated with Jeremy.

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In March of two thousand and Jasmine
wrote to Jeremy about how much she

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hated her parents and she wanted to
kill them. Her reasoning was, quote,

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they're treating me like shit. Yeah, okay, they're paying for her

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food. Let's see her phone,
her shelter, her clothes, probably the

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money to go see these fucking bands. I mean, she doesn't she's twelve,

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I mean, what the fuck.
Jeremy responded by saying how much he

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loved Jasmine, loved her plan,
and that together they would iron out the

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details. He made a poem and
he posted on social media and his account

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about how he needed the blood of
Jasmine's parents what are you kid? Needed

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them to die? Wow, so
he could be with the love of his

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life. The story is just very
disturbing. It's so stupid. And then

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Jasmine began sneaking out again to see
Jeremy, and now they were having sex.

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Oh gros, you knew that was
coming. Yeah, of course coming.

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During their meetings, Jeremy and Jasmine
began to plan the murders of Jasmine's

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family. Jeremy asked one of his
friends to help him kill Jasmine's family because

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if Jeremy couldn't do it, he
thought Jasmine would break up with him,

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so really he was afraid he might
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But his friend declined and basically told
him the fuck off. No time

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to fuck off. What I'd like
freedom and I'm not much of a killer,

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so fuck off. The friend didn't
think that Jeremy was really serious about

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it, just insecure. Soon after, Jeremy posted a song to his social

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media about how he would kill for
the love of his life God, and

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then he posted the entire plan on
the public forum. That's ridiculous. Quote

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payment My lover's rents are totally unfair. They say that they really care.

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They don't know what is going on. Just assume. As their greed continues

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to consume, she's slowly going insane. She continues to think that I will

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come into her life to help her
out, to stop what they keep trying

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to shout. It's all bullshit their
throats. I want to slit. They

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will regret the shit they have done, especially when I see to it they

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are gone. They shall pay for
their insolence. Finally, there shall be

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silence. Their blood shall be payment. I am so embarrassed right now.

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Horrible poetry. It's so dumb.
That's why we hate teenagers. Yes,

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and I have lots of them.
He didn't even realize that law enforcement.

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I don't know. I don't think
he care that other people could maybe someday

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like this could be used against him. Yeah, I don't know. On

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April twenty second of two thousand and
six, the Richardson's family, they had

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a family dinner, which they did
a lot, which you know, that's

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normal. I appreciate that. On
that same day, Jeremy went out and

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got some beer and some weed.
He drank an entire twelve pat That's a

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lot. It's a lot of beer, and it's a lot of beer.

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He lived in a trailer with his
mom, so we just spent the day

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drinking. Later that night, he
met up with his friend Jordan to see

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if Jordan maybe would be interested in
helping kill Jasmine's family. Why not,

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Let's just ask everybody I know if
they'll help me murder these people I know.

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He begged Jordan, please help,
but again this friend said, I'm

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gonna pass. What I think is
interesting is that nobody went to the police,

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right, But okay, you don't
think somebody's really gonna murder a family

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that I don't know. I'm just
you know, called the police. But

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as a team, I'd be like, you're fucking I'd go home with that

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stupid time, right. None of
my friends ever said they were going to

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murder famis or anybody know. Jeremy
ended up going back to his mom's trailer.

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He called Jordan again. He said, come on, man, come

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on. That's when the police should
be called, is if he keeps bugging

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you. So he's bothering Jordan,
and he says, hey, by the

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way, if you go to the
police and let him know my plan,

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I'm gonna kill you and all our
friends. I'm just gonna fucking murder everyone.

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I'm gonna murder everybody. Jeremy told
a lot of his friends what he

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was going to do to Jasmine's family
and warned them all that they would all

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be killed because he wouldn't know what
Rat squealed them. So, yeah,

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if the police get wind of it, you're all that you're all dead.

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Yeah, yeah, he watched Natural
Born Killers one more time, you know,

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to give you to that mindset right
research of Mickey. Before he left

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for Jasmine's house. He's all pumped. At three am that same night,

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Jeremy met with his cocaine dealer what, and he snorted six lines of code

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What. He drank some vodka with
his dealer, and then he added some

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wine and took some ecstasy and then
snorted two more grams. Called Jesus Christ

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twenty three is gonna live forever.
I would be dead. And for our

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listeners, this wasn't unusual for Jeremy. He was, I told you before,

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into drugs and drinking. Around four
am, he made a drive to

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Jasmine's house. I'm sure that was
a very safe drive. When he got

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there, he threw a pine cone
at Jasmine's window to wake her up,

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as if somehow she's sleeping when he's
going to come murder her family. Right,

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hey, I'm here. She then
let Jeremy in through the basement window

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and he had a knife on him. Jeremy wasn't very quiet. He's a

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slappy, fucking mess. That's because
he's so high and drunk. Yeah,

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I'm drunk. He doesn't yeah,
you don't know with a fire, Yeah

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right, he woke up the entire
house because because he can sneak in because

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he's high and drunk. Yeah,
you haven't tried to be high and drunk

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and try to be quiet. I
mean, I don't know anything about it,

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but hypothetically speaking, Deborah was the
first to wake up, and she

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ran down to the basement because she
thought Jasmine was trying to sneak out again.

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Oh and when she got to the
basement, she met Jeremy face to

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face. He was wearing a mask. Oh that's got to be creepy.

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Fuck basement mask guy with a knife. He immediately slashed Deborah with a knife

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and she fell. He began stabbing
Deborah in the torso over and over again

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a dozen times. Deborah didn't go
down quietly. She was making a lot

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of noise. And Mark woke up. He heard all these sounds and screens,

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and he ran to the basement in
his black box or shorts. He

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grabbed a screwdriver on the way down. He just was grabbing whatever it was.

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On his way. He got attacked
by Jeremy, and Mark started pushing

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his thumbs into Jeremy's eyes, Jeremy
ended up getting out from under Mark,

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and then he began stabbing him more. But Mark is a badass. He

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was able to grab Jeremy's throat and
he started choking him, but Jeremy just

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kept stabbing and stabbing him. Jasmine
ran up the stairs after seeing all this.

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I don't know. She couldn't handle
it, even though this is what

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she wanted. Mark was yelling out, who are you? Why are you

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doing this. Jeremy replied that this
is all happening because of the way he

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and Deborah treated Jasmine. He also
said to Mark as Mark took his last

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breaths, your daughter wanted this.
Oh that's terrible. Those were the exact

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last words that Mark hurd. That
makes me really really sad too. Jeremy

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then on upstairs to see what Jasmine
was doing. He heard Jasmine talking,

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but he couldn't understand what was being
said because he's running upstairs. This is

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very brutal. Jasmine went up and
saw her terrified little brother, Jacob.

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He was hiding under his blankets.
Jacob heard Jasmine coming into his room and

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asked her what's going on. Jasmine
told him just go to sleep and she's

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gonna go to bed. Then she
put Jacob's head in a chokehold position and

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00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:34.359
started squeezing. Oh no, this
is awful. She was trying to put

408
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:39.400
him to sleep. Jacob was able
to get free and he ran out of

409
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:45.720
his bedroom into the hallway. Jasmine
knew that Jeremy was coming up and wasn't

410
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:50.319
too far behind her, and that
Jeremy was covered in blood, you know,

411
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.519
and Jo's Jacob's gonna see this.
And by the way, there was

412
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:58.880
blood all over the walls and up
the stairway when the police eventually arrived.

413
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.839
So now Jeremy and Jasmine have this
problem. They have Jacob and one of

414
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.680
them. It depends on who you
believe. Said we can't just leave them.

415
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:12.639
So Jacob was attacked and he fought
his little heart out before he was

416
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:17.760
killed, just like his dad.
There was blood on everything in the hallway

417
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:24.000
by his bedroom, blood soaked in
the carpet. He was stabbed and his

418
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:30.199
throat was slashed wide open. He
was only eight years old. According to

419
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:36.320
reports, Jeremy said that Jasmine slit
her little brother's throat and then walked right

420
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:40.000
past Jeremy. She ran the knife
underwater just to kind of rinse it.

421
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:44.360
Off, and then she put the
knife on the counter, which is where

422
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.239
the police found it. Jasmine told
Jeremy to go outside and wait for her,

423
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:52.159
and she grabbed a bag she had
packed and her mom's purse. But

424
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:57.639
instead of waiting for her, Jeremy
took off running, and he ended up

425
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:01.679
getting into his vehicle and back towards
the direction of his mom's trailer, and

426
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.639
Jasmine was left alone with the house. So that's why you don't really know

427
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:10.679
who did what she called a cabir
On five thirty am, she got to

428
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:15.360
Jeremy's house where they bagged up their
bloody clothes. The two of them threw

429
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:21.840
the bags of clothes in a dumpster
behind this apartment building. They wipe down

430
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:27.199
the blood from inside Jeremy's car,
which was his mom's car, and then

431
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:32.119
they drove to Jeremy's coke dealer's house, and Jeremy was an absolute mess.

432
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:38.880
The coke dealer told police that Jeremy
asked him how to clean blood off of

433
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:44.800
knives to make sure there was no
traces, and then Jeremy and Jasmine had

434
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:49.239
sex at the coke dealer's houseman Not
long after that, they went to one

435
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:54.639
of those parties. That's just like
everybody's on all these horrible drugs and you

436
00:35:54.719 --> 00:36:01.320
know whatever. In the morning,
it's morning, and then everybody's still fogged

437
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:05.480
up. And I've been there.
I'm not judging. I've been there.

438
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.000
And they're at this party. They're
making out intensely to early morning hours,

439
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:15.360
and they were so on each other
that everybody was uncomfortable because I think they're

440
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:16.920
all coming down now, you know, they're all coming down. They're like,

441
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:20.599
man, it's like seven three in
the morning, what are you doing.

442
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.840
A witness said that Jasmine was rubbing
up on Jeremy the entire time,

443
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:29.480
and Jeremy confided in a close friend. His name was James. He said,

444
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:34.079
we killed my girlfriend's family last night. I gutted them like a fish.

445
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:39.679
What a badass grouse. Jasmine was
overheard saying, my little brother girled,

446
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:46.000
Oh, what the fuck. The
Richardson's bodies were found by Jacob's best

447
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:51.639
friend, Gareth. Oh. I
think he's like eight. He had asked

448
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:53.039
his mom if he could go play
with Jacob, and his mom said,

449
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:57.880
ye, go over their ship.
He went over to the Richardson's home and

450
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:02.079
helped himself inside. I'd probably a
neighbor and saw all three bodies dead.

451
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:08.480
Oh man, that poor little kid. He came running home and said to

452
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:13.159
his mom, quote, Mommy,
there's bodies at Jacob's house with blood on

453
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.320
them. I saw them through the
basement window. So that's how he saw

454
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:21.000
him. Oh God. He made
his mom come back with him to look

455
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:24.519
through the window for herself, and
she peered into the window and she could

456
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:29.800
see Mark. He was laying face
up. He was only wearing his black

457
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:35.760
boxers and he was literally covered with
blood, especially his face. His arms

458
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:40.559
were raised and they were still in
this boxer position like he's trying to fight.

459
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:45.400
Yeah. Then Gareth's mom, Sarah, noticed a deceased woman, Deborah.

460
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:51.039
She was on the couch covered in
blood in the basement from the waist

461
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:54.000
down. This was all you know
in the basement. Oh, for the

462
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:59.360
record, Garrett, I forgot Garett
is only six years old. Oh shit,

463
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:05.679
Sarah freaks out. Yeah, she
calls the police immediately. When the

464
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:10.159
police arrived at the scene, neighbors
were spoken to. One neighbor compared them

465
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:16.599
to the Norman Rockwell family. They
seemed like the perfect family, except for

466
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:22.800
that one little daughter they have that
hated them. The police originally thought that

467
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:27.039
Jasmine was kidnapped. They saw this
family photo at the house. They saw

468
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.440
that there were family photos and there
was one person missing, and they assumed

469
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:36.480
she must have been kidnapped and probably
the real reason the crime was committed as

470
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:40.360
someone wanted to take a twelve year
old girl. Police went to Jasmine's school

471
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:45.559
and they spoke to her guidance counselor, and I'm sure that was a lightning.

472
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:50.360
I'm sure they got an earful.
Sandra Richards was her name, and

473
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:54.159
she told police that she would open
Jasmine's lacquer so they could take a look

474
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:58.000
and see if there was anything in
it. When they opened up the locquer,

475
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:02.800
all these papers fell out the paper
were hand written cartoon sketches of stick

476
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:08.679
figures. In the drawings, there
was a family of stick figures and they

477
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:14.760
were being burned alive, oh while
two other stick figures watched and laughed.

478
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:21.400
One stick figure seen laughing with one
of the sketches was named Jeremy. So

479
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:25.320
she literally had this inner fucking locker
with Jeremy's name on it, and that's

480
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:30.079
how they figured out she wasn't kidnapped. Blood evidence was huge in this investigation.

481
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:37.360
Professional experts were brought in to Jacob's
bedroom and the basement and the hallway

482
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:44.119
and stairs. Staines were found everywhere, and the forensic experts noted that Jacob

483
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:51.000
was in fact running away from the
killer around his room. Jacob's attack started

484
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:55.119
in the hallway, but Jacob died
on his bed. The lightsaber found in

485
00:39:55.199 --> 00:40:00.440
Jacob's room had blood all over it, an investigators suspect, we do not

486
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:05.519
know for sure that Jacob grabbed it
and tried to use it against the assailant

487
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:09.920
to defend himself, which is the
fucking status, fucking thing ever. And

488
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:14.639
it's his sister that he loved so
much. Yeah, it was his sister.

489
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:19.519
Yeah, she did it. Yeah. Deborah's blood was confined to one

490
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:24.800
area, and the forensic experts noted
that Deborah died where she was repeatedly stabbed,

491
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:30.360
and she died relatively quickly. Blood
was found on the light switch in

492
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:36.079
Jasmine's bedroom, and this told investigators
that whoever killed the family knew the house,

493
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:40.400
while police knew that Mark put up
a really hard fight, and they

494
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:45.519
assumed there had to have been at
least two people involved. Jasmine Richardson would

495
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:51.880
be the youngest person charged with homicide
in Canada's history. She was now a

496
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.920
murder suspect. They released a picture
of Jasmine because they don't know where Jasmine

497
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:02.239
is, right, somebody that knew
her and knew Jeremy called the police and

498
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.360
James, who was one of the
people that Jeremy had, said, Hey,

499
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:10.000
I want to murder my girlfriend's parents. He saw the release pitcher and

500
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:15.119
he called the police. And then
remember Jordan, he was backed by Jeremy

501
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.199
to help him. He went to
the police and the two told him everything

502
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.400
they knew about Jasmine and Jeremy and
basically what they said word for word.

503
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:28.000
The murders were all over the news, of course, and when Jasmine and

504
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:31.960
Jeremy found out, they started losing
their fricking shit. They fled in the

505
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:35.679
back of a friend's pickup truck.
And why a friend would let them,

506
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.679
I don't know where did they think
they were going to go? Well,

507
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:43.239
in their friend's defense, they said
they wanted to run away, So I

508
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.400
mean, I guess that's why he
let them be in the back of his

509
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:51.639
pickup truck. Seriously, where they
gonna go? Law Enforcement of Medicine HAT

510
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.280
sent out a bolow be on the
lookout for Jeremy and Jasmine to all the

511
00:41:55.360 --> 00:42:01.719
precincts nearby. It was a rookie
cop on his first shift ever who drove

512
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:07.280
to this very large gas station in
the town of I think it's a leader

513
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:12.039
in sas Sketch one. He knew
that at some point, everybody's got to

514
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.119
put gas in the car, right
and they're on the run, and this

515
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:19.000
would be whatever forever reason, this
could be a good place for them to

516
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:22.159
go and fill it up. So
he went to this gas station and he

517
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.239
noticed this pickup truck with Alberta tags
pull up to one of the pumps at

518
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:29.119
the gas station, and there was
more than one friend in the front seat

519
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.719
of the truck. But one of
those friends when in the convenience store and

520
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:37.920
saw a newspaper article about Jasmine's family. There's a huge picture of Jasmine on

521
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:42.800
the front page and then there's this
article even though it just happened the night

522
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:46.159
before. After seeing the headlines with
a picture of Jasmine, the friend thought

523
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:52.599
that someone must have broken and killed
her family, because Jasmine wouldn't do that.

524
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:58.039
No, that was the only explanation. The friends bought the newspaper from

525
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.199
the convenience store and they showed Jeremy
and Jasmine, who are in the back

526
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:05.280
of the truck. Right. Both
Jeremy and Jasmine laughed, I've just seeing

527
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.920
the newspaper. And Jeremy jokingly said, oh my god, that doesn't even

528
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:15.159
look like you to Jasmine. The
coke dealer was supposed to be Jeremy's alibi,

529
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:20.239
just so you know, for the
night of the murders, and Jeremy

530
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:23.199
had a black eye because Mark gave
him a black eye. But Jeremy lied

531
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.159
to his friends and said the coke
dealer gave him a black eye. So

532
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:30.559
here you are. You have these
kids in the front of this pickup truck.

533
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:35.760
You have Jeremy and Jasmine in the
back. They've got this newspaper and

534
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:38.880
you know, they're looking at it
and they're kind of laughing. And they

535
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:43.159
pull out of the parking lot and
they go to this high school. Some

536
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:46.280
of the friends were a little worried. I'm just gonna say, they're like,

537
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:50.440
what the fuck is going on?
And the rookie cop I told you

538
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:52.800
about, he saw them pull up
into the gas station and he saw that

539
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:58.039
it was Alberta Plates and so he
started following them. Could you know they're

540
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.360
up to no good. I mean, I'm just saying when I was in

541
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.960
the back of a pickup truck,
I never did anything good after the age

542
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:08.320
of fourteen. He called for backup, and when backup arrived, they created

543
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:13.760
a plan to ambush the truck that
they were all in. So I'm assuming

544
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:17.000
by this time he had to have
figured out like seeing Jeremy and Jasmine.

545
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:22.480
The police found Jeremy and Jasmine hiding
under the blanket in the back of a

546
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:27.400
pickup truck. So clever. Yes, he'll never find them. Jasmine didn't

547
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:31.239
have pants on? What now you
Yeah, So I don't know what they

548
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:34.079
were doing. I mean I did
know what they were doing in the back

549
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:37.440
of that pickup truck. Seriously,
Jeremy was putting one patrol car and Jasmine

550
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.519
was put in another car. And
on the way to the police station,

551
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:46.920
Jasmine's friends they weren't worried about being
arrested for being accessories to murder, in

552
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:51.840
fact, but they were more concerned
that Jeremy would be arrested for rape.

553
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:57.320
That was their priority. Wow,
And they didn't allow Jasmine to put her

554
00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.840
pants back on. Oh that's what
it says. But they probably gave her

555
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:05.480
a blanket once back of the station, Jasmine was put into holding out while

556
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.840
Jeremy stayed in the back of the
patrol car he was in. While Jasmine

557
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:15.880
and Jeremy were both being dealt with
by investigators, there was the autopsy of

558
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:20.960
Jacob, Deborah, and Mark that
was completed. Each of the autopsies took

559
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:25.400
two hours. Jacob died from blood
loss that was caused from his throat being

560
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:30.719
cut. It had caught all his
major arteries. He had two stab wounds

561
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:32.719
to the face and two other wounds
to the left side of his chest.

562
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:37.119
He also had signs of strangulation.
I remember I told you she put him

563
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:42.159
in a chokehold. That's right.
Yeah. Mark's body had twenty four stab

564
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:46.239
wounds. None of them were fatal
wounds that would cause a death to be

565
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:52.519
quick, so he died much more
slowly. And Deborah had twelve stab wounds,

566
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.639
some of which punctured her lungs,
and both Mark and Deborah had defensive

567
00:45:55.679 --> 00:46:00.880
wounds. Now keep in mind this
is April twenty, two thousand and six,

568
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:04.880
and the police are interrogating a twelve
year old with no parents, and

569
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.800
so they have to follow the special
protocol. Jasmine cried the entire time,

570
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:12.639
but she didn't open up about anything. Oh, shut the fuck up.

571
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:16.519
One of the detectives tried to be
really understanding and made jokes and try to

572
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:20.960
get her to trust him, and
she did fall for that. Eventually,

573
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:23.599
she had a couple of variations of
what happened that night, and then she

574
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:28.320
just broke down and told the truth. But you know the truth? Who

575
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:32.440
version version of the truth. She
told investigators how she originally tried to choke

576
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:37.159
her brother enough for him to pass
out so she didn't have to kill him.

577
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:39.599
So that's why she choked him,
sure, so she didn't have to

578
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:45.719
kill him. Jeremy persuaded and pressured
her to kill Jacob. According to Jasmine,

579
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:50.840
she said that Jacob repeatedly said that
he was too young to die.

580
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:57.800
Oh it miss me so fucking sad
right now, isn't that sad? She

581
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:01.119
told the investigators that she didn't want
her brother to suffer and that Jacob couldn't

582
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:06.639
go through life without his parents,
so that's why he was killed. But

583
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:10.840
he's saying I'm too young to die. Oh man. She also admitted that

584
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.159
Jeremy did what he did because he
loved her so much, and that Jeremy

585
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:22.280
helped her kill Jacob in the end, so she did admit she yeah,

586
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:25.119
she did admit that she participated.
She said there were certain things she couldn't

587
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:30.800
go through with that Jeremy had to
do to finish the murder. Guessing that

588
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:35.920
is the slash to the neck.
That's my take. I don't know.

589
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.760
The investigators suggested Jasmine writing an apology
letter to her parents as a tactic that

590
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:45.320
they would use against her, and
she wrote that she wished she could take

591
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:50.239
everything back. And then she wrote
a letter to Jacob and she apologized to

592
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.519
him because she knows that he heard
both of their parents being brutally murdered.

593
00:47:54.039 --> 00:48:00.880
Oh, and she apologized for scaring
him so much. She proceeded that throughout

594
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:04.840
all that happened, she still loved
him dearly. She said that she wished

595
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:10.599
they were all with her since now
she has nobody. Right, God,

596
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:14.920
this is het. Then again,
she's twelve. I know it makes me

597
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.199
mad, but she's twelve. She
asked them to forgive Jeremy. Okay,

598
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:22.159
Jeremy can fuck off. Yeah,
Jeremy can fuck off. Said he was

599
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:24.840
under the influence of alcohol, drugs, which is true, fucking true,

600
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:30.320
But you still know you're not supposed
to murder people. And then he did

601
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.679
it just because he loved her so
much and he just wanted her to be

602
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:37.360
happy. Whatever. After she wrote
that letter, the investigator said, if

603
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.079
you want to write a letter or
Jeremy, you know, we'll give it.

604
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:44.079
Yeah, we'll give it. To
give it to him. It seems

605
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.239
like this should be illegal. I
mean, I'm just saying or people should

606
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:51.960
be smarter. Yeah, but then
again, she's twelve. Jeremy was interrogated

607
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:55.039
later that same day, and he
admitted everything but the murder of Jacob.

608
00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:00.280
He said he was high on drugs
and he tried to convince you, Asmin,

609
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:02.119
not to go through with any of
it before I happened, even though

610
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:06.639
he was the one that Vida did
three fourths of it. He also said

611
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:10.920
that he would do anything for Jasmine. Okay, clearly that's been established.

612
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:17.920
He volunteered the information that Jasmine is
the one that slit the throat off little

613
00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:22.159
Jacob. That's the one that's hard
for them to admit. Yeah, they

614
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.320
yeah, because they know they're fucking
asshole and they know how fucking wrong it

615
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:29.880
was. According to Jeremy, he
didn't want to kill Jacob. Sure,

616
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:35.000
but investigators told Jeremy that Jasmine said
he was the one that killed Jacob,

617
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.559
and Jeremy yelled, quote, she
cut his throat, She cut his throat.

618
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:45.920
Jeremy then said that Jasmine was completely
unfazed after all was said and done.

619
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:51.519
And you want to remember, Jeremy
is drunk as a skunk and high

620
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:55.760
as a kite. And she's not
right. She wasn't. No, she's

621
00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:00.559
completely suber. Yeah, she had
a dinner with her fan. Yeah,

622
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:06.280
just okay, right, it's just
evil. Notes were passed back and fourth

623
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:10.400
and they were just gross. They
basically just talk about each other's love for

624
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.599
one another, throw off and they
need to be together as soon as possible.

625
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:19.280
And he proposed marriage in one of
the notes. Oh, come on,

626
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:27.639
she accepted his child bride. Give
me a break. Jasmine went to

627
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.280
trial in June of two thousand and
seven. She was not even fourteen.

628
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:35.360
She pled not guilty to three counts
murder. The trial lasted about a month,

629
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.880
and the jury found Jasmine guilty on
all three counts in less than three

630
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:45.480
hours. Wow. In November two
thousand and seven, Jasmine was sentenced to

631
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:51.400
life. Nope, nope, Oh, it's Canada. She probably got like

632
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.239
two years, she got ten years, ten years, got ten years.

633
00:50:54.440 --> 00:51:00.239
Yeah, that's a maximum sentence allowed
according to the Youth Criminal Justice Act.

634
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:06.960
So she's out, she's out.
Unbelievable. Yeah right. She spent four

635
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:10.840
years in a psychiatric facility and four
and a half years under controlled supervision.

636
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.960
That's it. She didn't even go
to like real prison and four and a

637
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:20.239
half years of supervision means she's out, bag right, Yeah, she's out

638
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:25.280
parole. Yeah. So she was
in a psychiatric hospital for four years and

639
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:30.119
then she was let go. Yeah. Wow, this is really sad,

640
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:32.760
you know. In December of two
thousand and eight, Jeremy was found guilty

641
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:37.440
of three counts of first screen murder
and he was sentenced to three concurrent life

642
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:45.039
sentences. He will be eligible for
parole after twenty five years. So we

643
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:49.960
got ten more years. Yeah.
After being the youngest person ever convicted for

644
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:52.920
three counts of first scream murder,
Jasmine is out and living in Canada.

645
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:58.599
Her location is unknown. She was
released in May of two thousand and sixteen.

646
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:02.719
Wow. She was unlikely to reoffend
and described as the poster child for

647
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:08.000
rehabilitation. Maybe she's fucking twelve.
I know maybe I'm sure she's sorry.

648
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:12.719
I guess. I mean, fuck, I would look back and just be

649
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:16.920
I know, come on with a
twenty three year old Predator one singer.

650
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:22.719
Right, absolutely, she received an
education in Calgary and she lived on her

651
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:29.960
own and went to Mount Royal University. Oh yeah, I'm conflicted. While

652
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:32.519
I have to trust what the judge
said. And the judge his name was

653
00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:37.199
Justice Scott Broker said, quote,
I think your parents and brother would be

654
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.440
proud of you. Clearly, you
cannot undo the past. You can only

655
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:44.800
live each day with a knowledge you
can control how you behave and what you

656
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:51.239
do each day. And quote that's
the anniverse story. Man. Man,

657
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:58.079
fuck this one knows a pissuck.
I don't like the ones where I get

658
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:02.440
all conflicted. I know, I'm
very conflicted. Twelve conflict about Jeremy I

659
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:07.360
never know. No, he configured
out. No, I'm conflicted. I'm

660
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:12.639
very conflicted. She was and she's
doing good apparently so so I hope.

661
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:16.000
So, but damn, you know
I'm big in redemption. You're big,

662
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:20.239
and just kill him? Yeah,
just let him dying. Fuck them,

663
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:23.480
Fuck them that nobody gets a second
chance with me, which is weird.

664
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:30.280
We are normally the opposite when it
comes to that stuff. But she's doing

665
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:36.079
well, so I hope so,
like I genuinely hope so. But some

666
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:39.320
family member take her in, somebody
had to help her out. Holy shit.

667
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:43.840
Anyway, So that's the end of
this story. It's thanks to Lea.

668
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:45.800
You're welcome. I want to thank
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688
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I don't know. I don't know
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689
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