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What's he throughout the impossible or whatever
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be true and it is not a
question of the Libo cultism. What a

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touch of mysticism is today? It
is Empires. It's a host of them

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souls, hellophaps, my father spirit
dude for a certain termed work the night

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yere the old gods unt dead?
And what is the true God when he's

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dead? You can't complain. People
assume the time is a strict progression of

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cause to effect, but actually from
a nonlinear, non subjective viewpoint, it's

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more like a big ball of whiby
wobbly timey. Whymy stuff. You're listening

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to Paranormal UK Radio and good evening
everybody. Welcome to another edition of the

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parentrmal UK Radio show, the flagship
Show here on the Paranormal UK Radio Network.

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Once again, I'm Mark Johnson,
flying solo tonight. Irene couldn't make

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it she had a bunch of personal
matters to take care of today, so

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unfortunately you're stuck with me. Oh
well, I pity you. In any

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case, I hope everyone had a
great Halloween season. Of course, my

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favorite time of year. I didn't
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a lot. But you know,
this year has just been one of those

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years. But still coming into fall, it's beautiful. All the leaves are

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changed and falling everywhere. So here
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it's beautiful, and I'm sure over
there in the UK it's gorgeous too.

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Next time I read's on she can
talk about it. In any case,

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I want to go ahead and get
right into tonight's guest because I'm fascinated with

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her story. We're talking tonight with
Lorraine McAdam now. Lorraine is an artist,

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writer, a poet. In the
past, she's worked as a nurse

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for well over twelve years, and
later on she trained to become a teacher

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and has been teaching English for the
last twelve years and now runs her own

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tuition business. Now, she's also
been having experiences and encounters with what we

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think are paranormal ets, UFOs,
etc. Which she realized she's been having

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since she was a child, and
these are chronicled in her brand new book

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Phantoms of the Night, My Lifelong
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it's phantoms in the Night or ets
question mark. So Laurene, welcome to

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the program. Oh hi, thank
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Laurie, could you tell the just
for the audience, tell us where you

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currently reside. I live in Cumbria, UK, in a city called Carlisle,

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often called the border city. It's
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about twenty minutes from the famous Lake
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the UK. I'm sure UK viewers
all immediately understand what I'm talking about there

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with My husband's actually walked all the
wain Rights which are very famous here.

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They are the mountains that mister Wainwright
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them. There's about two hundred and
fifty six of them, so that's what

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are here. Yeah, so well, hey you tell me, since I

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haven't had a chance to talk to
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there? Leaves changing? Absolutely,
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different colors. And as I say, we're ten minutes from Scotland, we're

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near to Gretna. Have you've heard
of Gretna where people used to run away

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to get married, and we are
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to this beautiful mountainous region called the
Lake District, and there's lots of beautiful

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colors there, you know, in
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Lots of different tree species as well, so it's absolutely gorgeous. Yeah,

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lovely, lovely. I was over
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time this summer in August and stayed
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in Wales, so we spent Yeah, so we spent most of our time

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in Wales, but very beautiful country. Yeah, and can't wait to come

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back. You should come to the
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too, So not that Wales isn't
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know, it's absolutely lovely here with
the Lake District. Yeah. So Irene's

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partly Scottish from the McKinsey clans,
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sure she'd she'd love to do that. Yes, we've got that in common.

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I'm half a scott too, I'm
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So let's talk about your book,
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Now. You have been having these
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first start to notice that you were
having these experiences. Did it take a

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while before you started to put things
together that something wasn't right. It took

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quite a long time for me,
actually, yeah, because the actual what

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I believe now when I look back, abductions, and I firmly believe there

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were abductions began when I was only
about twelve years old. And what would

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happen would be that I would just
hear this. Sometimes I would hear whispering

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as though they were conducting a conversation, and I thought I was hearing things,

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you know, at first, and
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this whispering, and then this buzzing
noise would start up, and it sounded

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like, to kind of illustrate for
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of bees, and it would just
grow louder and louder. Tell it would

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kind of film me from top to
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couldn't even open my mouth to scream
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believe me, And then I would
just black out, and it would go

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from being nighttime when I was in
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it would flip from night to day, and it would feel to me from

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my perspective like seconds had just gone
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six a m or something like that, you know. And this went on

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sometimes twice a week to me,
and I just didn't understand what the het

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was happening to me at all.
And I just put it down because I've

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been brought up as a Catholic.
I put it down to deem an oppression

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that I was being, and I
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Jesus to deliver me from them and
all sorts, and nothing worked. Really.

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yet you've only recently decided to come
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back in August, so this is
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Why now? Because well, the
first thing that convinced me was I saw

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the naval people coming out the pilots
about the tick and TAC craft. And

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when I saw that, I thought, well, i've seen that, I've

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seen one on the ground, and
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I saw one in a very vivid
dream and I know I believe they belonged

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to what I often referred to as
the Nordic kytes. So I saw that,

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and I also was kind of pushed, I believe, by a Nordic

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that contacts I believe contacts me from
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he was saying, for God's sake, how long you're going to wait?

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Get your story out? Told them
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long you're going to wait? And
this happened during lockdown, where he appeared

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to me on three separate occasions,
and I believe I was abducted on one

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of them, actually, But I
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Nordic craft as well as I don't
explain if you like, but there is

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quite a lot to my story.
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given a metaphorical kick up at the
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my story out. And also I
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that it would that for the last
thirty forty years, we've all been

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ridiculed and cold looney's and nutcases when
we've tried to tell people about this,

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and even my own mother wouldn't believe
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time, until she saw UFO herself
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and then she said, oh my
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been telling the truth all along.
But that's that's I will explain that,

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you know, further on in the
interview. But I just feel like there's

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a sea change going on as we
speak, you know, what with David

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Grush coming out and you know,
the American government giving amnesty. Are they

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two whistleblowers now? Is that right? Am I correct with that? So

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I think that's a good thing,
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I have been in the paper,
the local paper as well, and I

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feel like that I've been given a
I haven't been ridiculed as much as I

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thought I was going to be,
apart from from one set of people,

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but the reception of this has been
so open minded by most people. I

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feel like there's a sea change going
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they're in attitude, if that makes
sense. M There has been a

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paradigm shift these last several years between
the release of this military footage. It's

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like partial disclosure, Yet the government
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of it. You know, the
people uphologists are all happy with glee that

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all this is coming out. Unfortunately, I feel the general public is still

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apathetic because condition for so many years
to dismiss this is fantasy. And the

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media always whenever they if they ever
did report on something they would there would

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always be the snicker factor of them, you know, playing X files music

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or whatever, not taking it seriously. But now, yeah, things are

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changing, Yes, and there are
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on it. They're my favorite right
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this before on the show is The
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that. Yeah, there was the
book, but they have a television series

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here I think it's finally also airing
over in your country, but where they're

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doing a lot of scientific experiments on
that ranch and some of what they're coming

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up with is just mind blowing.
And then you know, I've also have

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had the opportunity to talk with I'm
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years a dozen other UFO experiencers as
I call them, and I'm not sure

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abduction is the right word anymore,
and i don't like using it. Actually,

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I'd rather say that I'm a witness
or that I'm an experiencer. Yeah,

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because I don't feel that my encounters
have been I don't feel like they

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were malevolent, if that makes sense. I feel like they were beneficial to

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me, that they raise my consciousness. Yeah, it's just yeah, when

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you're when you're growing up with certain
ideals and especially with religious background, you

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know, and back then, of
course, none of this was really that

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much in the public eye, so
people had no idea about it. No,

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they didn't. And it really did
take cases like Barney and Betty Hill

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in the sixties to start putting things
on the map. And it really took

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off when Whitley Strieber wrote his book
Communion, which we're going to talk about

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here in a little bit, because
I know that comes into play into your

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story. Yes, it was definitely. Tell me what are some of your

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earliest memories of your first encounters that
you can remember. They were very frightening

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to me at first, because,
as I say, I thought they were

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demons and I would pray for them
to go away and things and that none

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of that works. And one night, one of my really vivid memories is

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of waking up and it was almost
like they were trying to show me were

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not demons, were actually physical beings
just like you. Because I could see

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I think it was a male I'm
going to say, his hand. I

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could see his hands, and I
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hand. I could see the long, three long fingers, and it really

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scared me, and my reaction was
kind of unfortunately. I wish I hadn't

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done that now that I was so
scared. So I dug my nails into

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this hand, and the reaction I
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Then he let me out of the
paralysis, and I ran to put

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the light on, and I looked
at my hand and the remarks where he

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dug me, but obviously they'd vanished, and I thought, oh, oh

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my god, what the heck was
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where I was literally put back outside
during the summertime in my back garden and

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had to knock on the door,
of course, to get my mom to

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let me back into the house,
and she accused me of doing it for

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attention, of literally climbing out the
window down the pipe there was a window

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the dam pipe, and then jumping
off into the garden just to wake her

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up. At six am, like
you do to get attention, and that

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wasn't the case at all. I
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was completely confused and disorientated on that
occasion. And then there was another occasion

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where they paralyzed me, but I
didn't black out, and I thought felt

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like they were poking me in the
back, and I thought, what if

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they're doing now? And when I
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almost like they did it on purpose. There were all these like black like

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hieroglyphic like symbols on the back of
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black charcoal crayone yes, yeah,
And that terrified me, and foolishly,

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because I was only a kid,
I went and just put me night in

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the washing for I was going to
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do you know? I didn't because
we weren't very well off and I

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didn't have a camera. You're talking
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My mum and father had broken up
and she had very little money, so

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I didn't have a camera. I
didn't possess one. Honestly, I wish

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I had, but I was so
frightened by it to be honest with you,

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I just wanted it to go away. And my mom found it and

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really told me off about it and
accused me of drawing them, And I

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said, how would I know how
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I said, how would I know
how to draw those? And we

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had the shooge argument and I ended
up having to wash it myself. Yeah,

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and she won't believe me. Let
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with the three fingers. Now you've
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and yes, we're getting into those, But yeah, what did this being

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look like did it? Was it
a Nordic or did it was it what

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some people would think of as a
gray or what was it? What a

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different type of being? It was
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after that happened, I had a
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because I believe what my mind was
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happened during the time of the abduction
of when it was taken. Because what

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happened was they appeared to me like
to be it was pitch black, because

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it was pitch black in reality in
my bedroom and I was floated out of

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bed and I was put on like
a floating stretcher and all this sounds weird,

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and the stretcher then kind of slowly
moved through the wall and I went

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through my bedroom wall, and I
remember looking at the spiders webs in the

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brick. Inside the brick, there
were spiders and spiders webs. I can

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remember this even now years later.
And I came through the wall and I

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was floated up to a waiting cylindrical
craft and it was a round craft,

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and underneath there was this really deep
kind of blue light coming out of the

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bottom of this craft. And as
I zoomed up towards it, I just

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passed out. So I must have
maybe passed out in reality, I don't

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know, And that's all I could
remember. But it was from that point

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onwards that I began to think,
what on earth is happening to me?

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You know? Am I going crazy? Am I having nightmares? You know?

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It was just I'll be about fourteen
at this point, and it had

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been happening for about two years,
and I thought, what the heck is

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this? What the heck is going
on? You know? And I didn't

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really want to accept that I was
having some kind of contact or something.

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You know, it just didn't even
come into my mindset. I couldn't,

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you know, I didn't want to
face it. It was like I was

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in denial for a long time,
you know. So it really scared me,

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actually, you know. And and
every time I tried to tell my

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mum, she just said, oh, you've got a really vivid imagination's just

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having nightmares. And that's all I
gotten. Then she threatened to take me

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to the psychiatrist after, you know, when I got put in the garden.

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You know, she believe me because
I realized then something really strange was

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going on, you know, toy
cup there. And then sometimes I'd be

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put back with my night on the
wrong way or inside out. That often

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happened, like I didn't have any
concept about human clothing. I've heard.

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I've heard similar stories about that.
I've heard of one gentleman I interviewed who

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came back wearing a woman's night shirt
and he he actually had gone to bed

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wearing a T shirt that says,
I I got abducted by aliens and all

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like that was this lousy T shirt. So he can only imagine who might

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have wound up with that that is
so funny. So so these experiences started

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so young. And just where there
any breaks periods of time where you got

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a reprieve or was it just consistent
throughout most of your life. No,

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I did get reprieves, as you
put it. I had a dis intense

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contact from being twelve to sixteen.
And I think that was mainly the grays,

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as you could because why I say
that is because they would appear to

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be cats, but they can't eyed
the huge eyes and they couldn't disguise the

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eyes. And on one occasion I
did manage to break out of paralysis and

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turn around and look straight at one
of them, and that's what I saw,

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you know, and I recognized the
face on the cover of Whitley Striper's

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book, you know, in the
night early nineties. But then it suddenly

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seemed to stop around sixteen, when
I went to pre nursing college to do.

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Back then, you didn't do a
degree like you do now. You

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went to do a pre nursing course
in a college. And it was when

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I was going to college that I
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a lady, and I refer to
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bus stop because she never spoke.
But usually when I was waiting for the

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bus, there would be a lot
of other teenagers waiting with me to go

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to college as well to do various
courses. But on two occasions when I

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encountered this what I'll call a strange
looking girl, there was just me and

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hair, and she would look straight
at me and it was like she was

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looking into my soul almost, and
she was very, very beautiful. I've

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got an AI picture of her that
if you want me to send it to

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you, that has since been generated
by a really good friend of mine drawing.

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Yeah, she was very beautiful,
and it was like she was trying

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to say, yes, you're not
imagining things. I am not from here.

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I am some you know, I
am in some kind of disguise role.

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Now you know you said your wife
was psychic, Well, I am

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also psychic, can have been since
I was twelve, And with me,

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I can read people's energies, so
I'm very empathetic. And I'm also psychometric,

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where I can take an object like
an ear ring or a watch or

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someone's ring that they wear a lot, and I can read the past and

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the future of that person, and
usually I'm quite accurate. I haven't done

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it for a long time, but
I can do it. I also have

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a healing ability that I don't use
a lot, but when I do use

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has proved to be quite effective.
I had a friend who had a tumor

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in a neck and I laid hands
on her and it shrank, and it

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shrank down to nothing after they told
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So I believe I have CAT.
I wouldn't say i'm I don't know

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whether i'm I have more power than
a real life Eve And I don't know

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because that really did stum May actually
when she said it a drunk I believe

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you have some ability. Definitely.
Yeah. A lot of experiencers have reported

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yeah. You know, I've always
been fascinated with the works of Dolores Cannon

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or even doctor John Mack, who
were both hypnotherapists and regress people back to

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their experiences, and you know,
so many of them do come back,

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like yourself from these experiences with enhanced
psychic abilities, with the ability to heal

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psychometry, all sorts of psychic or
even paranormal events. Did you ever have

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a problem being around electronics, Yes, I do frequently. My husband and

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may have a standing jaw that I
explode. All the light bulbs in the

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kitchen. Halogen one seem to be
vulnerable to me. I don't know why.

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Husband thinks it's hilarious. And there
was one time, and it's if

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I get extremely happy or extremely sad, it happens and I don't know why.

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But we were having this huge row
one day. You know, we're

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all row, don't we when we're
married. But we were having this huge

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row, and we happened to be
under the halogen lights in the kitchen and

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they all went pop pop pop,
as I kind of blew a gasket,

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and it kind of diffused the situation
with the pun in a way, because

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these lights popping off above us made
us both fall about laughing at each other,

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you know. And what I tend
to do is I set off airport

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equipment when I'm going through it,
and I can take every bit of metal

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off me, I can take my
watch. I've learned to just take them

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all off. And there was one
occasion when no matter what I took off

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and what I did, I just
kept setting the airport of security off.

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I think it was when I was
going to Florida actually, and this it

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was really puzzled by me. And
she waved the thing over money, and

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every time she waved it over my
right knee it went ping ping, you

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know. And she said, have
you had a knee implant or something?

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I said, no, have you
had a knee replacement? No? And

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she just couldn't get ahead around.
And in the end she just waved me

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through because I was such a nuisance, you know, it just wouldn't stop

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doing it. So and I do
set alarms off in shops sometimes I'll trigger

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them for no apparent reason. Yeah, their security alarms. It happened to

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me in New York when me and
my husband went to New York in spring,

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and this guard chased me thinking that
I'd shoplifted and I hadn't, and

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I quite happily let him look in
my back. But it was embarrassing,

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you know, and I said,
to see, I told her I hadn't

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stolen anything, So yes, I
do. You know. It's it's all

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this high strangeness and weirdness that we
we put up with and go through this.

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I can't say we I have not
the closest I've ever come was on

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a couple of occasions, I've seen
orange string of orange globes lights in the

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sky behaving mysteriously. Yes, I
did have one one vivid dream not very

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long ago, of like being floated
up to a UFO, examined and returned,

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and it was it did happen during
a dream state, but it was

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so vivid. Now I'm sitting here
thinking, hmmm, yes, that sounds

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suspicious to me. Yeah, yeah, so I don't know. Yeah,

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this this one friend of mine I
was telling you about before we started,

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who's having very similar experiences to yours. Oh yeah, it lives over in

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Belgium and he's been having ongoing experience
is now for quite a while. But

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they've been very intense, and you
know, it's the same same situation with

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him. And when you talked about
having missing time, suddenly like it's a

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blink later and several hours have passed. Have you ever had an encounter with

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these beings where it felt like maybe
you were gone for hours or days and

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then when you come out of it, it seems like seconds or minutes have

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passed. Yes, I have.
There's one in my book actually that I

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document which I think is one of
my more important ones as far as witnesses

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are concerned, because eight witnesses saw
me go missing for an hour when I

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was actually a nurse on night duty. I was the senior staff nurse as

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well, so they were all panicking
thinking where the heck is shit. What

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happened was that I used to do
four nights a week, and curiously on

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this occasion. To give you some
context, can I just explain it from

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the beginning, because he was told
Nordic to give this some context. What

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happened when I was about seventeen,
and this is in my book as well,

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And I'll send you a photo of
him that's been done by my friend

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if you like, because I think
you'd find that interesting. I met him,

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I had two more men came to
my door, and as I say,

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I'm very psychic, and the blonde
one, I felt some strange energy

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from him and they said, can
we come back? And all this because

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of an interest, so I said
they could. But the funny thing was

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that he came back on his own. And I've since been told that they're

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not allowed to do that. So
I wonder what happened when I look back

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on this incident, and this happened
very shortly after the abductions or whatever you

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want to call them, stop.
But he was wearing like a polo blue

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sweater and he came back and he
was wearing sort of dark blue jeene in

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this navy blue sweater, as I
say, And I remember him sitting next

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to me, chatting with me,
and I offered him coffee and he wouldn't

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have it. But then I believe
they won't have coffee and he wouldn't have

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anything. But I can't remember what
we said for the life a minute,

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which is strange. I know we
talked for quite a while. Now,

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you'd think that I would remember at
least some of that conversation because I have

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a really good memory. But what
I do have is a brilliant memory for

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faces. My husband remarks on it, because I'll spot an actor in one

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thing and I'll say that's the actor
from say the Big Bang Theory or something,

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and my husband I'll go, how
do you recognize them like that?

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Out of context? So I do
have a really good memory for faces.

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And the reason I'm saying this is
for a reason because on this particular night,

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when I believe I was taken him
from debate staff. And this would

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be something like sixteen years later.
I met this same guy and he hadn't

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aged one bit and I recognized him
immediately, and I was walking up to

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work with a colleague was with me
when it happened. And he was an

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auxiliary nurse, so what you'd call
a nursing assistant in the States. And

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you know, we caught the same
buss and they asked us what time it

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was. And I stirred and stirred
at this blonde guy because the reason was

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my friend said, oh, he
said, you fancy him. I said,

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no, it wasn't that. I
said, I think I've seen him

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before. But I didn't tell him
that I thought it was an alien because

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I think my friend would have thought, well, my colleague would have thought

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I was an upcase. I thought, so I never said anything, but

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I thought, how on earth can
I be like twenty nine now? I

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last saw when when I was seventeen, And yeah, he doesn't seem to

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have aged one bit. He had
no wrinkles at all, no flaws,

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no no facial markings. They looked
clean shaven. And then as I got

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to work that night at one up
Circle, around one am, a buzzer

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went on the top floor and I
went to answer it because it was highly

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unusual because they were what we call
psychogeriatric patients, which is people with dementia

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or Alzheimer's, and they were normally
wouldn't buzz like that, you know,

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they wouldn't think to pull the buzzer
for the nurse. You'd just go and

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check on them regularly. Anyway,
I went up there and as I traversed

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the corner from the lift right at
the bottom of the corridor were not naudic,

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but they looked like Rectilian and I
have a mock up of them which

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I could send you as well.
And I saw this male and I believe

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it was a female, and she
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so I couldn't see her features very
well, but I could see his

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and he had sort of didn't look
human at all, had like sort of

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pointy ears coming up from his head
and glowing red eyes, which absolutely terrified

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me. And this like muddy sort
of brown skin, like leathery looking skin,

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and I just ran for the nearest
bathroom and locked myself in. That

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was my reaction. I was absolutely
terrified. And to my mind, only

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a second of time had gone because
I pulled the red pulse switch, you

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know, for the nurse. The
nurse that came was the other staff nurse

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that was on duty with me,
and she said, open the door,

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Open the door. And I said
the first thing, I SAIDs have been

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gone? And she said has who
gone? And I said those two?

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And I was in a right state. And she said, you've gone white.

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That was what the first thing she
said to me was You've gone the

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color of white, literally gone white. And she said, what on earth

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is going on? And I tried
to tell her what I'd seen, but

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she wouldn't believe me, of course, you know, because you were saying

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about people being conditioned. She said, oh, you perhaps had an hallucination,

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that was what she said. And
I was convinced that that was no

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hallucination. I mean, you don't
run away from an hallucination. And I

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was perfectly lucid. I wasn't on
tablets, you know, or anything like

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that. People have asked me,
were you on tablets? Were you on

408
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this way? I wasn't on anything. I was a young woman in perfect

409
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:47,480
health. You know, I was
very real bust back then. I could

410
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,880
do a twelve hour shift and it
wouldn't bother me, you know, a

411
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,640
twelve hour night shift, and there
was absolutely nothing wrong with me, you

412
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,640
know, And I know what I
saw. And she said, do you

413
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,240
know what you've been missing for a
whole hour? She said, We've been

414
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:04,799
looking everywhere for you. We couldn't
find you anywhere, she said, We've

415
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,720
been everywhere looking for you. She
said, until you pull this buzzer.

416
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:12,039
And I looked down at my watch
and it was exactly, you know,

417
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,000
nearly two am so and yet to
me, in my head had been there

418
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:20,599
seconds. So that, to me, that's one of the weirdest things that's

419
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,119
happened to me. And afterwards,
I just thought, they can take me

420
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,480
anywhere anytime. They can come to
work and literally take me. It's what

421
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:30,680
I thought. But I couldn't tell
anyone, you know, because as you

422
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:37,359
say, it was the sort of
early nineties and people you know, like

423
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,079
react very badly or they were just
mock cue. I mean, these staff

424
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,960
knew that I was psychic as well, because I've read several done readings for

425
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,319
them, you know, the rings
and jewelry, and they knew I was

426
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:50,920
psychic. And I'd seen a ghost
at that same home I saw, I

427
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,319
got the ghost of a little girl
ornted the top floor corridor the first day

428
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:59,599
I was on there. She went
skipping past me and I thought she was

429
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:05,200
somebody's grandchild because she looked as solid
as anybody. So I am prone to

430
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:08,760
seeing things as well like that,
you know, And I'll never forget that

431
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,840
night. It was just so frightening. But the funny thing was that I

432
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,719
met that same guy on the way, you know, that i'd known years

433
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,519
before, and I'm wonder if there
was a connection, you know, there

434
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:24,199
was if they were trying to say, again, there are other people apart

435
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,599
from you in the universe, you
know. And I'd only just made the

436
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:32,360
connection and another salient point to makers
that I had read communion by them,

437
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:37,920
and I've made the connection that I'd
had some kind of contact with ets with

438
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,679
the grip what I would call the
grays. And it made me think,

439
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,360
well, are the these pale,
blonde, blue eyed people eats as well?

440
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,719
Because I got this strange energy from
them. And I remember the girl

441
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,159
at the bus stop, you know, that I'd encountered twice, and it

442
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,639
all seemed to come back into my
mind, and I thought there's a connection

443
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:04,559
here, and I fen wonder are
these people members of some kind of federation

444
00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:07,679
on these all these races? Are
they in some kind of federation and they're

445
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:13,639
trying to get disclosures to happen on
Earth because they're fed up with this embargo

446
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,880
on the truth, you know,
and so they've all worked together with it.

447
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,559
With me, I feel to push
me out of my comfort zone and

448
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:24,599
say, look, we're here.
Hey, you know, we're here.

449
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:30,199
We're not going to go away.
We're gonna keep doing these things until you

450
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,280
finally put two and two together and
make ten, you know, which is

451
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,519
what happened. Really. I don't
know what you think about that, but

452
00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:45,760
I suspect that maybe some kind of
federation type thing in existence what I think

453
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:53,440
some people have postulated on that,
and I don't know everybody's experiences. Well,

454
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:58,599
there are a lot of similarities,
there's slightly different. There's a lot

455
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:09,599
of stories about galactic federation of light
or people talk about Pleadians or Octorians or

456
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:20,639
anything that sometimes I think is a
little too convenient considering when we look at

457
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:30,199
let's say a star system or a
constellation. Let's say Orion, Okay,

458
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,519
Orion's famous and you have the three
star stars in the belt of Orion,

459
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:39,039
and so people call these beings some
beings that come from Orion. The problem

460
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:45,920
is is that these stars are not
all in a flat line. They're far

461
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,800
away from each other. Some are
bigger, some are smaller, whatever,

462
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,840
And it's just the illusion that the
light plays in our eyes. Yes,

463
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:01,239
those three belt stars are not in
a line, no thoughts. No.

464
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:06,159
And plus it's out of time,
isn't it, am I right? What's

465
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,000
getting towards is is history? Really? Isn't it am I right about?

466
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:15,039
Yeah? All right, that creaks
it? That's okay. Yeah, so

467
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,639
I have a lot of questions about
that. I also have questions about the

468
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:28,519
types of ets people see, especially
the Nordics, because there's something I've heard

469
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:34,360
some stories. You know, there
was even Travis Walton's experience, you know,

470
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,440
when they made the movie Fire in
the Sky about it the Logger back

471
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:43,159
in the seventies. Yes, you
know, I've met Travis a couple of

472
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:45,480
times. I'm actually friends with a
couple of the guys that are in the

473
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:52,239
truck with him. Yes, And
you know he had experiences with both Grays

474
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:58,599
and Nordics. Yes, same as
me. Yeah, And sometimes I wonder

475
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,159
that the only thing where I get
a little suspicious, and I could be

476
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:12,159
totally wrong, but they're they're very
good at implanting screen memories. Well,

477
00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:17,079
they're brilliant. Yes, I absolutely
agree with on. So sometimes when you

478
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:22,559
think you might be dealing with one
type of alien for lack of a better

479
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:29,800
term, or visitor, yes,
maybe you're not seeing what they actually look

480
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,239
like. Maybe they're presenting themselves to
you in such a way, because what

481
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,239
are you going to be more afraid
of a gray with big black eyes or

482
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:45,000
you know, a tall, very
handsome or beautiful human being, and yet

483
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:51,000
you feel more comfortable with yeah,
exactly. To be honest, I don't

484
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:57,039
feel that comfortable with them, either
of them. Actually, I always feel

485
00:38:57,039 --> 00:39:04,159
really unnerved when I have a believe
in counter Nordic eties. They are very

486
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:08,199
similar, though, I would agree
with you they don't communicate out loud,

487
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:14,320
or they did haven't with me,
it's always been telepathic, or they haven't

488
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:20,800
said anything at all, you know. Conversely, they have communicated through dreams.

489
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,000
So yes, I would agree that
a lot of the I'm actually trying

490
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:30,440
to write a second book, and
I've started from the premise of what I

491
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,320
believe I know or can work out
about them, like a sort of detective

492
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,760
thing, if you will, from
my own encounters with both sets of them.

493
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,480
And you know, that is something
I've observed that and I postulate that

494
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:51,960
it could be because the physics is
like thousands of years ahead of hours.

495
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:57,360
I would kind of fear eyes because
I've kind of seen them open up a

496
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,239
dimension. On one occasion when I
believe in ORed, it came for me

497
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,599
to my own house, actually into
my house to take me for whatever reason,

498
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:13,559
and the dining room ceiling just opened
up and I looked up and it

499
00:40:13,639 --> 00:40:16,320
was like I was looking at another
dimension almost, you know, I was

500
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,559
looking at a hanger with all these
tic tac craft. There were black,

501
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:24,960
shiny craft lined up on really shiny
black walls, shiny black floor, and

502
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,400
it was like they can just open
one area up for you to jump from

503
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,800
one place to another instantly. I
don't know how to put it other than

504
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,679
that. So I kind of feorized
that the physics must be way ahead of

505
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:47,760
ours, you know, like a
teleportation or interdimensional travel. I would say

506
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:54,960
if they have both, from what
I've experienced, I honestly do believe and

507
00:40:55,039 --> 00:41:01,159
I think they I don't know whether
you've read Bud Hopkins. What Abud Hopkins?

508
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:07,119
But was transgen it being sight unseen? Have you I've got that right,

509
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,400
I've not seen I've read that.
I've not read his Well, he

510
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:15,280
kind of fearized that they know so
much about physics that they can create pocket

511
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:20,480
dimensions. So that because of what
he was trying to work out was how

512
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,119
people have kind of said, and
I'm one of them, actually, that

513
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:30,039
they've been taken from busy places or
had missing time, and they wonder how

514
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,519
they could have been taken from a
busy place and no one noticed and they

515
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:37,400
actually he was saying that he believes
they could even freeze time and move you

516
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:42,440
into a temporary pocket dimension so that
no one will have a clue. You

517
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,559
know, no one will realize were
that you've even been and gone. If

518
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:47,519
that makes sense, I don't know
whether it does well. That falls online

519
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:53,440
with one of my friends experiences where
he felt like he was gone for several

520
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:59,920
days and yeah, he literally was
just he woke up and it was just

521
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:05,079
the next morning. Yeah, I
think they can shrink time. They've played

522
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:07,559
with time. They seem to play
with time. Yeah, I agree with

523
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:15,880
that. Doctor who once said the
wibbly wobbly timey and wimy stuff. Yeah.

524
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:22,719
Now, one incident that I heard
about, if you can expand on,

525
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:30,480
you were taken to a strange interview
in the nineties in Manchester. Oh

526
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:35,559
that's right, Yes, Now that
was very strange. And before I talk

527
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:38,880
about that, I would say that
that book I was just telling you about,

528
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:47,320
I actually found that he talked about
a similar interview that someone else experienced,

529
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,559
but in America. That was very
similar to what I went through in

530
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:57,800
Manchester. But what happened to me
was and again it makes you wonder if

531
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,599
they can plant things in your mind
and made me see things that aren't there,

532
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:05,400
because I swear that I saw a
box. This is the days before

533
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:07,639
the Internet and Google. You know, we're in the early nineties. I

534
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:13,559
just graduated from university with a bachelor's
degree and I wanted to apply for a

535
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:17,519
PA in sales. It said in
this job in Manchester, and it was

536
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:22,679
in the local paper, or at
least I thought it was so. But

537
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:28,000
the strange thing is I can't even
remember ringing up to arrange an interview,

538
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:30,960
which is what you do, isn't
it Logically, Because we did have telephones

539
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:35,960
then, but I think it might
have said something like just turn up on

540
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,519
a certain day, certain time,
or you know, because I don't remember

541
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:45,000
ringing up to say when do I
come for this interview whatever. I didn't

542
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,360
send a CV, which again is
weird, because I had a CV typed

543
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,760
up ready that had been done for
me in the university department. Because of

544
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,920
course it wasn't as easy to you
couldn't. There was no email, you

545
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,719
know, there was nothing like that. So you have to remember the technology

546
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,039
hadn't moved on at that point.
And I kind of caught a train to

547
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:07,519
Manchester Piccadilly. I remember getting to
Piccadilly, and the weird thing is I

548
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:10,159
do not remember how I got there, and that in itself is weird,

549
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:14,719
isn't it. You'd think you'd remember
that, even you know, years later,

550
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,159
And all remember is it's like what
appeared to be like a white office

551
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:22,760
block. And I went up some
stairs and I went in and what I

552
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,199
thought was an office. But the
weird thing was there were just these red

553
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:31,480
plastic chairs and there was this blonde
girl sat behind a desk, and nothing

554
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:36,039
on a desk, no typewriter,
you know, you had the old fashioned

555
00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:39,719
typewriters. Then I think we're just
about I got to electronic typewriters at that

556
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,280
point. So there were no typewriters. There was no phone. We only

557
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:49,880
had dall phones. Remember the cell
phones were only just starting to come in

558
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,320
and they were like bricks really,
so there was no Darve phone. There

559
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:58,400
were no notices, nothing on the
walls. They were completely bare. And

560
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,920
I thought, this is weird,
was the first thing that I thought.

561
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,039
But I just thought, oh,
well, maybe they've only just moved in

562
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:06,559
here, or I just put it
down to you know, maybe they've not

563
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:09,239
been here long or something like that, and sat down and waited. And

564
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:13,519
the strangest thing was, I said, I was dying to go to the

565
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:15,159
loop. So I said to her, could I use the toilet? And

566
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,760
she actually got all flustered at that
point and she said, I'm sorry,

567
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,760
we don't have a toilet. Now, have you ever been in any office

568
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,719
where they don't have a toilet,
I'll be honest. Yeah. So that

569
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,880
was the first weird, weird thing, and I thought, oh, a

570
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,639
lot of stuff to cross my legs, and this this was getting It was

571
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,960
like curious and curiously, to quote
Alice in Wonderland, and I just sat

572
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:40,199
there and then, you know,
ver in mind what I told you about

573
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:47,360
my psychic ability, suddenly this this
perfectly normal to me, looking very tall,

574
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:54,400
though quite broadly built, manner of
African extraction. He looked to you

575
00:45:54,440 --> 00:46:00,000
know, I would have said he
was from the African continent in ancestry,

576
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:05,480
not you know, in fact,
and he took me into the office.

577
00:46:06,199 --> 00:46:08,719
He had a perfectly normal British accent, as did the girl, although she

578
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:15,519
was a bit robotic. And the
first thing he said to me, which

579
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:19,280
was weird when I look back on
it, was I'm sorry we've trailed you

580
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,679
always well, we haven't got any
sales jobs, but would you like to

581
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,880
read my wristwatch? I believe that
you're psychometric? And I thought, and

582
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,960
at the time I didn't question it. I said, oh, yes,

583
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:30,480
yes, I'll read it. And
I couldn't get a thing off it,

584
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:32,960
and he seemed to be pleased about
this. But then it was only afterwards

585
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:37,840
I thought, I on Earth did
he know that I was psychometric? I

586
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,760
on Earth did he know? Because
I didn't tell him. And another weird

587
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,519
thing that happened was that as soon
as I'd done this, it was like

588
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:47,400
you just wanted to get rid of
me, and he said to me,

589
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,679
if you go to the bottom of
the steps, will be a taxi waiting

590
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:55,000
to take you back to Manchester be
Kadilly. And I seemed to just blindly

591
00:46:55,039 --> 00:46:58,719
obey this, you know, I
didn't question it. I just went.

592
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:01,519
And the funny thing was the guy
in the taxi was blonde as well.

593
00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:05,599
I could only see the back of
his head, and he didn't speak.

594
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:08,039
And I tried to offer him some
money when he dropped me a Manchester Piccadilly,

595
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,840
and he just waved me away as
if to say, we don't want

596
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,320
your money, you know, which
I thought was really, really weird.

597
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,679
I mean, have you ever known
a taxi driver if he was fair?

598
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,880
And it was just the strangest thing. It really was. From starting to

599
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:28,559
finish, and I ended up sitting
on the train feeling baffled all the way

600
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:31,679
back to Darwin Langashre, where I
lived at the time, thinking what on

601
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:37,119
earth was that all about, and
just sitting there completely puzzled, going over

602
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:39,559
it in my head, you know. And of course as soon as I

603
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:43,920
got out of the place it started
to occur to me. The first thing

604
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,760
asked was how did you know I
was psychometric. Why did you want me

605
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,760
to read his wristwatch? Why could
I not read it? All these things

606
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,960
were going around in my head and
it was just the strangest thing. And

607
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,000
when I look back on it now, I just wonder if it was some

608
00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:05,480
kind of enclay that the again the
Nordic eats and maybe in Cahootes with some

609
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:09,400
other people from elsewhere had in the
middle of a huge city like Manchester.

610
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,400
You know, do they have enclapes
amongst us? Because there are our fears

611
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,840
they walk amongst us? And I
believe they do actually, and they were

612
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:23,480
just testing out my zachic ability or
something. I just don't know. It's

613
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:31,960
possible that the fact that they didn't
have a restroom or a loop, it

614
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:37,400
might mean that a lot of this
could be partly of a screen memory yes

615
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:43,760
before to me, yes, yes, so you weren't actually in an office

616
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,760
building. You you may have been
somewhere else completely, whether it's on a

617
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:54,119
craft or whether it's in a slightly
altered dimensional state. Yes, yeah,

618
00:48:55,599 --> 00:49:01,519
definitely. The entire experience just reeks
of high strangeness. It does. It

619
00:49:01,559 --> 00:49:05,000
does to me now when I look
at it years later. Another thing I

620
00:49:05,079 --> 00:49:07,880
forgot to tell you was the office
door was open what it appeared to be

621
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:13,679
open. And this was another weird
thing. I could see these light blue

622
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,400
cars and they were all this exactly
the same color. Now how many?

623
00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:20,079
And I thought, what is going
on here? And there were these blue

624
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:23,400
cars and they had handsome blonde handsome
blonde men sat in them driving them,

625
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,840
and they were open top cars and
they were going past, and I thought,

626
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:29,440
what's all that about? Ore there? And you know what I'll put

627
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,199
it down to in my head at
the time, I thought they must just

628
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,280
be sales reps and they have all
company cars that are all the same color.

629
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,639
Just roaded it off in my head. You know, it's it's amazing

630
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:45,480
what we can do to try to
rationalize. Yeah, irrationality. I mean,

631
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:49,880
it was just that is I mean, what was I really saying in

632
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,719
reality? I just why do they
play these strange games as well with reality

633
00:49:53,960 --> 00:50:00,320
and with you You know, that's
a great question. What is the purpose

634
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:07,079
for all of this? Some of
it is so outside of our realm of

635
00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:16,679
comprehension, And it's impossible to say, because first of all, they're never

636
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:29,000
straightforward. They're always very obtuse,
or they use misdirection or just flat out

637
00:50:29,039 --> 00:50:34,280
lie. They're not about lying.
No, they're not, absolutely not no.

638
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,719
So again there's an agenda. But
what I've also found in a lot

639
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,960
of cases like yours, I don't
know how you feel about this, but

640
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:52,119
they are very much And again Whitley
Strieber commented on this, mentioned this several

641
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:59,119
times in his works that they seem
to be very much not only interested in

642
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:07,800
our genetics, but they're interested in
our souls and our spirits and absolutely very

643
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:15,880
much interactive with us on a spiritual
level, to the point where, again

644
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:21,559
I have a friend and I've heard
this before through doctor John Max's books and

645
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:28,639
delvers canons of people who have actually
worked with them over lifetimes, many lifetimes.

646
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:35,079
If you believe in reincarnation, absolutely
yes, yeah, yeah, So

647
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:43,639
I have had recall of well spontaneous
recall should I say, of past lives,

648
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:51,320
and one of them was actually an
Atlantis because I know somebody actually said,

649
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:57,960
you know how beautiful it was,
and also in Egypt, significantly considering

650
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,880
that they drew those symbols on the
back of my night dress. So,

651
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:06,079
and I've had people since say to
me, other psychics say, you've had

652
00:52:06,119 --> 00:52:08,880
past lives in ancient Egypt, and
I feel as if I have You know,

653
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:16,480
that's very reminiscent. Are you familiar
with Edgar Casey, Yes I am,

654
00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:22,280
yes, yeah, the Sleeping Prophet, and he he had mentioned when

655
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:29,800
he started talking about his past lives, having a past life in Atlantis and

656
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:35,159
then when Atlantis was destroyed, moved
over to Egypt. That's right, Yes,

657
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,800
that's how I felt about it instinctively, before I even read up on

658
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:45,559
it. I felt that the Atlantic
Atlantis culture should I say, had gone

659
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:52,800
across to Egypt. But the strange
thing is that I had recall of being

660
00:52:52,840 --> 00:53:01,400
married to because I saw my husband
in this life and in that life he

661
00:53:02,159 --> 00:53:07,880
looked like an RDIC. I'll be
frank about that. Never really shared that

662
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,000
before, so that's strange how that's
come up. But he looked like an

663
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:15,039
RDIC, but he was dressed in
the garb of a priest, like a

664
00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:21,239
long white garment. And then I
woke up from it and thought, what

665
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,639
the heck was that all about.
I had this real feeling of tremendous loss.

666
00:53:25,679 --> 00:53:31,039
I felt so sad, and I
wondered if it was a kind of

667
00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:36,760
grieving. I don't know how to
put it other than that that person,

668
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,199
I don't know for that person.
But who is now your husband in this

669
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:45,840
life? I don't know, whether
reason or not, my husband in this

670
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,360
life is a doctor. No,
no, But do you understand what I'm

671
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:55,280
saying When you or maybe I misunderstood
you when you said that your husband was

672
00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:00,519
also it sounded like you said it
was also your husband in that past life.

673
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:06,440
I don't know, to be honest, my husband in this life is

674
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,679
blonde and blue eyed. He looks
very Nordic. Well you can, yeah,

675
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,280
it looks. Don't matter obviously,
no, no, how you feel.

676
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,440
Yeah, he does look as if
he well I know he has,

677
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:25,840
because I've traced his ancestry is descended
from Scandinavian people way back in the past,

678
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,079
or from the Vikings. I don't
know whether you know British history as

679
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:32,079
well. I do, yes,
yeah, so it's come from the Vikings,

680
00:54:32,119 --> 00:54:37,480
definitely, we know that for a
fact. So whether there's a connection

681
00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:45,360
there, because also there are rumors
that Egyptians came over to Britain at one

682
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:52,679
point and left traces of the civilization
here. You know, there is a

683
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,280
theory that that's happened. So you
wonder, don't you if there's some kind

684
00:54:55,320 --> 00:55:00,760
of connection going on all the same
theories here in America. Supposedly a cave

685
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:07,679
was found in the Grand Canyon which
had all Egyptian artifacts in it. We

686
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,760
got about five minutes left in the
program. I know you have a lot

687
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,920
of stories to tell them. There's
a lot that people should read in the

688
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,800
book. I was wondering if you
could just talk about what you know one

689
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:25,280
of the most recent events that really
sticks out to you. I think the

690
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,480
one that really sticks out to me
is the sighting that I had a craft

691
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:38,039
in two thousand and eight. I
actually witnessed white lights coming apart and coming

692
00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:42,840
together, and then I went out
to investigate. I'm not going to say

693
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,280
too much, but I saw a
landed craft on the ground and it was

694
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:50,320
egg shaped, and it was per
Lesson in color, and there were two

695
00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:53,039
very tall and I think there were
Nordic beings, but I didn't get close

696
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:59,239
enough to see the facial features clearly, but they looked like they were waiting

697
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,320
for me. And I drove off
in terror, and I wish I hadn't

698
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:07,559
done that now in retrospect, and
I believe as a consequence that was so

699
00:56:07,679 --> 00:56:10,519
panic here. I went onto the
six motorway by mistake, and I wasn't

700
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:15,280
used to going on a motorway at
that point, and I believe I was

701
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:20,159
taken definitely, because I had missing
time of an hour at plus. I

702
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:25,559
was somehow turned back around on the
motorway heading back north, and really normally

703
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,320
to turn back south you would have
to go all the way to junction forty

704
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:35,280
three, which I didn't do.
I pulled in a service station and somehow

705
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,400
I miraculously got turned around, and
I have no idea how that happened,

706
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:43,639
because there's no pedestrian bridge, there's
nothing there. And I told the journalists

707
00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:45,800
that interviewed me recently about all this, and he thought it was really really

708
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,920
weird as well, and agreed with
me that something strange must have happened that

709
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:57,280
night. But the most recent thing
I had was doing lockdown when I was

710
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,920
told that I would receive a mess
soon, and I thought, is this

711
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,320
going to be a verbal message,
a written message? Whatever it is?

712
00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:10,679
You know, as you say,
they're very obtuse. And I went very

713
00:57:10,679 --> 00:57:15,760
innocently to pick up some sunglasses that
i'd ordered at the opticians and some new

714
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:21,239
glasses, and I was in Asda
the supermarket. I think it's owned by

715
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,119
your Walmart. And I went to
the cafe because she said, can you

716
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:28,440
come back, We're not quite ready
for yet. So I went to the

717
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,320
caffege to get a coffee. And
this was after I've been teleperfectly told I

718
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:37,440
would receive a message. And I
was study in the queue and this man

719
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:43,199
to me, it was being really
rude, because I'm typically British and quite

720
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:49,639
reserved. He was looking at me, this blonde man. He looked pretty

721
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:52,679
ordinary, very tall, very handsome, and I thought, what is wrong

722
00:57:52,679 --> 00:57:55,400
with you? Why are you staring
at So I stired ahead and I thought

723
00:57:55,519 --> 00:58:00,480
it must really find me attractive or
something, you know. Help that.

724
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,159
I thought, what is he staring
at? And he was with these three

725
00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:07,280
other people that were also very tall. There was one lady with them,

726
00:58:07,559 --> 00:58:10,960
and there were two men, and
they just ordered some drinks and they were

727
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:14,719
very brief, and then they took
it away. They didn't stay in the

728
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,000
cafe. They just seemed to order
takeaway stuff, which you can do.

729
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,920
And my husband was coming and as
soon as this guy saw my husband,

730
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:27,679
he winked at me and I thought, well, you wouldn't get at me.

731
00:58:28,239 --> 00:58:32,280
Go away. I fort going and
then they went off. And it

732
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:38,599
was after that that and at the
time, my phone had been right at

733
00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:43,320
the top of my bag, and
I swear to you that there was nothing

734
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,159
inky or runny or watery in my
bag, because I checked, because that

735
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:52,840
was the first thing I thought myself. And these symbols appeared on my phone,

736
00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:55,880
on my phone cover in ink.
They were drawn in ink on my

737
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,079
phone cover after this encounter in the
cafe, and I thought to myself,

738
00:59:00,159 --> 00:59:05,199
what the heck is this? And
this was during you know, we were

739
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,519
just starting to come out of lockdown
and we and I just thought, what

740
00:59:08,519 --> 00:59:14,440
the heck is this? And I
sent these a picture of these There is

741
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,480
one in my book. People can
look at them. But I sent it

742
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:22,559
to my friend. He's called I
don't know you've heard of Michel. He

743
00:59:22,599 --> 00:59:24,920
wrote, they are here. He's
actually friend, but he lives in Japan,

744
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,880
and he wrote, they are here. And he really has had a

745
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,440
lot of an awful lot of encounters
with the Nordics. And he looked at

746
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:37,519
this and he sent me, have
you heard of Georgia Damski? Yes,

747
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:42,920
I don't know what your thoughts are
on him, whether he was, you

748
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,840
know, whatever, your thoughts are
on him. He had a sample of

749
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:51,360
writing that he alleged was given to
him by off On. Do you know

750
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,960
the story about that. I'm not
so familiar with that story. I'm more

751
00:59:55,000 --> 01:00:04,559
familiar with his sightings Mount Rainier back
in forty seven. Yes, yeah,

752
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,679
I actually believe some of that was
genuine at first. But he alleged has

753
01:00:08,719 --> 01:00:13,880
given these symbols by Orphon, and
the symbols on my phone looked very much

754
01:00:14,039 --> 01:00:19,280
like them, is all I'm going
to say. So when I compared my

755
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,920
symbols with this sample he sent me, because he's very into this, I

756
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,960
thought, oh my god, you
know, what the heck? And it

757
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:32,639
just you know, and that's kind
of been kind of well, certain people

758
01:00:32,639 --> 01:00:36,599
have mocked it, you know,
which they're entitled to do. That's what

759
01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:38,800
they want to do. But I
swear that I you know, they kind

760
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:43,159
of accused me of they've just got
on through penny in my bag, But

761
01:00:43,159 --> 01:00:45,079
there were no pens in my bag. There was nothing that could have run.

762
01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:49,559
I tipped all my bag out to
look, you know, I literally

763
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:52,679
went through it with a fine toothcomb, and I swear because it baffled me

764
01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:57,840
completely, you know, it frightened
me in fact, and my husband didn't

765
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,280
know what to make of it either, But I've put a photograph of my

766
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:05,840
phone cover in there. They've since
faded off there, and I have no

767
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,000
idea what that meant. And my
friend postulated my friend that I sent them

768
01:01:10,039 --> 01:01:13,440
to. He said, maybe they
were just saying, we're here. You're

769
01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:16,039
right, we are here, We're
here among you, you know. Actually,

770
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:22,280
yeah, and this is fascinating.
Yeah, and the end these occurrences

771
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,719
are still ongoing too, they are. I mean, the latest one I

772
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:30,559
had was, you know, we
said we do the wayn right mountains,

773
01:01:30,719 --> 01:01:37,320
Well we did quite high wayne right
recently towards the end of summer. And

774
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,599
we were coming down the mountain.
And I've had Nordics appear to me a

775
01:01:39,639 --> 01:01:44,039
few times in the Lake district,
but I haven't got time to tell you

776
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:45,960
all of them. But I'll just
tell you this last one. And we

777
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:51,559
were coming down the mountain and this
very tall man was coming up towards me

778
01:01:51,719 --> 01:01:55,000
and my son was following me behind
by about ten paces. My youngest son

779
01:01:57,079 --> 01:01:59,800
and I smiled at this man,
just nodded at him. He just looked

780
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:04,320
fitly ordinary. Although I thought your
energy is a bit weird and that's all

781
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,079
a fault, and I smiled him. He went on past and we got

782
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:10,159
to the bottom. I waited for
my son to catch up with me,

783
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:13,480
and I said, did you say
that man? Because I thought I wonder

784
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,119
what you made of him? What? Man? One? What are you

785
01:02:15,199 --> 01:02:19,519
talking about? Now? It gets
a bit, you know, there was

786
01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:21,840
no man. I've been following you
all the time. There was just you

787
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:29,880
and me, See what I mean? Right? Yeah? Yeah, Like

788
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:36,639
I said, this this all fascinates
me to no end, and I'm looking

789
01:02:36,679 --> 01:02:44,119
forward to reading your book and stories. You know, we're all looking for

790
01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:47,320
answers, and for those of you
who are going through these experiences, I

791
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:55,760
know answers are few and far between, but there's definitely some interesting experiences going

792
01:02:55,800 --> 01:03:01,599
on, and maybe it is there
true they're preparing you, training you,

793
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:08,800
doing whatever for more things to come. So interested to hear more about your

794
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:14,960
with your upcoming book, now your
current book Phantoms in the Night or ets

795
01:03:15,559 --> 01:03:22,000
my lifelong experience of contact with the
paranormal. Where can people get a hold

796
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:27,039
of your book? They can get
hold of that Amazon UK or Amazon USA

797
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,239
or on what's called six books,
which is a number six, just six

798
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:37,199
and thh six books, which is
John Hunt Publisher's website, their own site

799
01:03:37,199 --> 01:03:42,280
for books. If you put l
own McCadam into the Amazon search engine,

800
01:03:42,719 --> 01:03:45,800
and my name is l O W
R A I N E and M small

801
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:51,199
C capital A D A M,
so it's just McAdam, not McAdam M

802
01:03:51,199 --> 01:03:54,199
small C capital A D A M, then they will it should bring up

803
01:03:54,199 --> 01:03:58,840
my book if you just put that
into the Amazon search engine, or if

804
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,360
you just put the title in you
know, which you've stated already. I'm

805
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,639
sure that it will just pull it
up, won't it. Yeah, And

806
01:04:04,639 --> 01:04:08,239
I'm going to test. It came
up very quickly for me, so people

807
01:04:08,239 --> 01:04:13,679
should be able to find it again. Laurine, thank you so much for

808
01:04:13,719 --> 01:04:15,639
coming on the program. This has
been a fascinating discussion, and I think

809
01:04:15,679 --> 01:04:21,960
we've barely scratched the surface. So
yeah, maybe after the holidays and going

810
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,679
into the new year, we might
have to have you back. Well,

811
01:04:25,719 --> 01:04:29,679
that would be marvelous. I'd love
to be back because I'd like to tell

812
01:04:29,719 --> 01:04:31,920
you more about what happened in two
thousand and eight, because that was just

813
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:39,119
mind blowing, you know what I
kind of briefly told you about. It

814
01:04:39,159 --> 01:04:43,480
was just that was a screen memory
thing. I think as well, you

815
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,320
know, whether it took me,
I think off the motor were literally and

816
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put me back down again. There's
no other logical explanation. Well, I'm

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about to take a trip tomorrow.
It's going to take two days driving across

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01:04:56,199 --> 01:04:59,519
country, and you know, my
one friend said, yeah, I definitely

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look up and maybe you'll see something
and going, Well, if they decide

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01:05:02,599 --> 01:05:06,280
to take me, do me a
favor and deposit me like a few hundred

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miles further down the road and shorten
my trip for me because I've got two

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long days of driving ahead of me. So well, anyway, again,

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thank you Loreene for coming on.
Thank you for everyone else for tuning into

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another edition of the Paranormal UK Radio
show, the Flagship Show here on the

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01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:31,280
Paranormal UK Radio Network. I did
hear from Irene and she sends her apologies

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for not being able to be on
tonight, but she should be back with

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me during the next show. So
everyone have a couple of weeks, be

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good humans and we will talk with
you all later. Have a good one.