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Welcome back, everyone to a new
episode over You're Wrong with Molly Hemingway and

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David Harsani. Molly, I think
today we should start with the news of

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the Donald Trump indictments showed up in
court. Was it yesterday Tuesday? I

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believe when he did, and there
were no cameras, which really really upset

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some of these reporters. I don't
know if you saw that, because this

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is the biggest moment in their lives
basically, and they want to see it.

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And all they had or court renderings
court reporter drawings of the of the

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of the indictments being handed out.
Yes, no offense to the court drawer,

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the artist in the court, but
it was not the best I've ever

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seen. Yeah, it didn't really
look like him. They should just use

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the AI thing that people use now
to really render it more lifelike. But

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those things are never very good though. Remember when we were growing up,

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he was what always have them?
Yeah, oh my gosh, there were

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How can I say this without being
bleeped out or having to rerecord this,

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But it was an orgasmic situation for
much of the press yesterday and it was

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the biggest day of their lives.
I've never seen such excitement. So I

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was in meetings literally all day,
like from eight am until seven pm,

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and I kind of missed the whole
thing until late last night. I was

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watching sort of highlights of the coverage, and far and away my favorite thing

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is that apparently Trump was arraigned and
then he left the courthouse and he went

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to this like Cuban restaurant in Miami
where the people who were all like his

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supporters were cheering him, and it's
like it was kind of celebratory, and

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it was not the image, the
visual image that corporate media wanted to present.

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So what they wanted to say was
like, okay, sure, I

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actually heard someone say this on Sunday, something like okay, so maybe the

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previous attempts we've we've made to take
this guy down we're kind of not so

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well substantiated. But this one is
different. Trust us. So they wanted

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to create this air that it was
like extremely serious, that it was a

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dark and foreboding day, and instead
you have trumped like out there with the

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people who are high fiving and cheering
and you know, hugging and kissing,

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and he has like I think a
speech later that night where hidden his view,

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this is about the corruption of the
Department of Justice with two different standards

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of justice, one for friends of
the DJ and one for enemies like him.

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And Jake Tapper on CNN. Jake
Tapper, who was a major player

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in the Russia collusion hoax, the
lie that he helped perpetrate, was like,

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let's stop watching this imagery of Donald
Trump, my sworn enemy, having

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a good day, because we don't
need to see that. And he tells

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the control room. He's like,
hey, control room, stop showing it.

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And then over on the other lefty
network ANDBC, Nicole Wallace was like,

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the other left they're all lefty,
but anyway, Nicole Wallace was like,

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we can stop showing Donald Trump,
Like, we don't need to do

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that. We don't need to show
the news or the reality of what today

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is for people outside our echo chamber, so please stop showing it. And

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it's just hilarious and funny kind of
it is. I mean, we're at

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this place where most of these outlets
think that it's just news for them to

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give their side of the story,
which is an activist side of the story,

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and not to show the former president
who's just been indicted and hear what

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he might have to say about it. Don't get me wrong, we may

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disagree on this. I think those
indictments are bad. Agree with you that

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there's two standards of justice, and
that is what really makes me angry about

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this whole thing. But it's still
just an indictment. Right. We haven't

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had a trial. We don't know
what his side of the story really is.

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And I think the people, if
you're a true news organization, which

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of course CNN is not, you
want people to hear what the other side

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of the story is. The guy. Literally, the guy had a special

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for an hour on CNN how many
a few weeks ago, right, and

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that did not go well. So
now they don't want him on TV at

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all. Right, on the topic
of what you said about like you think

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this is a very serious indictment.
I was reading this excellent Matt Taiebe piece

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today and it was about this guy. Did you read it on CJ.

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Hopkins And I just browsed. I
didn't really give it a good read.

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And think's an American X pat living
in Germany or something like that, and

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he is in very deep trouble because
he wrote a book. Again, I

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think against the German government's COVID response, and on the cover of the book,

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he had like a those masks you
know that people were wearing very in

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the same color. It's like a
white mask in the same color, but

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you can kind of tell if you
look hard, there's a swastika over the

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mask. And so the whole book
is about how the COVID response by government

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was very authoritarian, and the German
government is ringing him up on violations of

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their hate speech laws and saying that
he's in fact glorifying Nazism when that's obviously

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not true. And Tylobi said,
you know, how are you doing,

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Like you have this very serious legal
case against you, and he's like,

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honestly, it's pretty scary because like, on the one hand, it's a

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complete and utter joke, and on
the other hand, it's a serious case

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against me. And that's kind of
how I feel about the Trump situation.

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On the one hand, there's the
reality that we all know, like anyone

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in good faith knows, the very
fact that they were even looking into him

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is an example of the corruption of
our Department of Justice. And Margot Cleveland

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has written beautifully on this about the
National Archives. Left wing activist who started

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this whole thing, how they were
in search of a crime, how they

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were like using the Presidential Records Act, in their false understanding of it to

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find a crime, and then when
they didn't find one under that act,

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because it's actually very difficult, they're
now claiming that Donald Trump is a spy

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or Espionage Act violation, but they
don't actually have evidence that it's there's a

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spy. They don't even have like
it's a totally convoluted case, but it's

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a very serious case and they very
well might put him in prison or worse,

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like, they very well might do
that. So how do you balance

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the reality that this is just further
evidence of the corruption of our country with

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the other reality that they desire to
make a political prisoner of Trump might actually

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come to fruition likes? Those are
both real things. Yeah, these laws

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exist, and they're never or I
should say they're selectively prosecuted, which essentially

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is the worst kind of abuse of
power, where government decides how it's going

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to enforce laws and who it's going
to target when it enforces laws. So

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if Hillary was indicted and in prison
right now, I'd be like, Yeah,

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Trump's in big trouble, right,
But that didn't happen, and it

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never happens to them, and that's
a huge problem, even if you think

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Trump did something wrong. And I
just want to point out again, Hillary

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Clinton was never president. She never
had the rights and authorities granted to US

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presidents. So the fact that she
got was the recipient of like a specially

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invented legal standard just to help her
skate, is an even worse situation.

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And then you do have former presidents
all over the place with similar situations of

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holding on to presidential records, whether
it's Bill Clinton and the national secrets in

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the sock drawer, or Barack Obama
whose dispute with the Archives has been going

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on for many years, or Joe
Biden whose paperwork disputes or you know,

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miss Annily of classfied information predate his
time as president by decades. And nothing

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is done to these people at all, and nothing ever will be done.

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I don't know, i'da when people
Hillary got off and he didn't. There's

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actually a standard where you could say
Hillary should not have gotten off. But

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I don't think that President Trump violated
the presidential like our understanding what presidents can

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hold on to perhaps I don't know
if he could hold on to this stuff

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or not. But the problem for
me at least is that Comey invented a

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new standard of intention, not gross
negligence, which is the clear standard for

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I forgot which of the two laws
he was using. And then now I

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have David French or other leftists saying, oh, that's the new standard we

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have to live by. Oh,
the new stand it is that we're going

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to have to bore into the souls
of everyone who has classified documents on their

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computers and or in boxes and decide
the government, the FBI is going to

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decide who gets to do it and
who doesn't. That's insanity. Moreover,

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having built a server to circumvent oversight
is a clear, clear sign that you're

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trying to avoid the law and doing
something. Smashing your cell phone is a

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clear sign that you're circumventing the Justice
Department's investigation and inhibits. I mean,

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you didn't know how classification worked is
a clear lie to your FBI interviewers.

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Nobody was held up for lying,
and then they say that this Trump associate

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said he didn't know something that he
did, and so they are prosecuting him

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as well. So if Hillary Clinton
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classification meant and get away with it. You do not get to ring up

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like a low level staffer who says
he didn't know where the boxes. If

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Trump believed he was above the law
on classified documents, it's because everyone has

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been above the law. Who's been
president, Everyone who's been in the Obama

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administration is above the law. Joe
Biden's above the law, So why shouldn't

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he think he's above the law.
And this has to be this has to

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be reconciled for me to get excited
about this whole thing. Yeah, I

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want most presidents in jail. I
want all of them impeached. But you

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have to have a standard that we
keep for all of them or it's where

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the country's going to fall apart.
I'm imagining you with your new rule,

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like you run for office straight to
jail, straight to jail. On President's

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Day, I start. I don't
think I did it this year. But

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I used to have like documents of
impeachments for presidents in the past, Like

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I would just like I had to
lbj Fdr Wilson, you know, I

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would just come up with articles of
impeachment for all these presidents, they all

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deserve it for different sorts of reasons. Very few I think don't. But

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anyway, so I also want to
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There were a few different things.
One was that I had to do

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a Sunday show, sorry as they
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to church and do not work on
Sundays, but I had to do a

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Sunday show. And I was articulating
this viewpoint that the larger context of the

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Department of Justice having two standards of
two standards of justice was really important for

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media coverage of this topic. And
yesterday I was reading Byron York, who's

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an excellent reporter, and he was
summarizing a few recent polls, like one

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was CBS and one was Reuters,
and it showed that like seventy five to

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eighty percent plus of Republican primary voters
think that this is completely political. And

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then they were asked if this would
change their view of Donald Trump, and

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most people were like, this has
not changed my view of Donald Trump at

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all. Some people said they just
like weren't sure yet, they wanted to

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learn more. But of the people
who said that their view of Donald Trump

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had changed as a result of the
indictment twice, as many said it would

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make them more likely to vote for
him, or like they liked it more,

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or something has said that they didn't
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all this because this view that the
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that this is like a problem at
the DOJ was barely articulated on any Sunday

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news show. It was just everyone
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the one side of the CJ.
Hopkins thing, you know, kind of

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a joke, but this is also
very serious. They were only saying that

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this is a serious part and there
was no diversity of opinion, and it

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was really like a reminder of how
limiting the DC consensus is. You'll see

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an article in the headline would be
like even conservatives say this is serious,

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and then you'll look and you know
it's going to Charlie Sykes or someone,

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you know what I mean, Like
it's always going to be someone who's not

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a conservative at all. You mentioned
David French and I don't read him anymore?

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Why would I? But he had
they saw like a headline on the

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New York Times. Twitter thing that
said. I'm David French and I almost

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joined a cult a few years ago, and I was like, well,

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this explains a lot. Anyway,
I haven't read that piece yet, is

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it is it? Oh, you
haven't read it either, so yeah,

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well I'll read it. I'll report
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Again. I like to David French, I consider sort of like a

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moderate Democrat at this point compared to
most of the others. So I like

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to read what the other side is
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what other people have to say,
but I like to read smart arguments,

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and like there's something so unseemly about
reading someone like French. It just makes

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you feel better than people like him, you know, and that's like not

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healthy for anybody, like, oh, I'm smarter than this person, Like

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who needs to build themselves up by
reading poor argumentation On the other side.

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One other thing I want to say
because I was kind of paying attention.

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Oh, it was difficult to go
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in this environment, and that was
before the polls came out showing what average

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Republicans thought of the matter. And
so I've been kind of paying attention to,

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like, who who's willing to say
something that will get you not liked

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by the establishment people. And I
just wanted to note that Morgan Rtegas had

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a great point the other night on
Special Report, which is that this indictment

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of Donald Trump and the political fallout
of it reminded her of when Nenyah who

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was indicted and everybody said, like, that's the end of him, and

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then he ended up winning winning off. That's a great point actually that you

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bring that up. In Israel,
the courts are incredibly politicized. Their Justice

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department is incredibly politicized, and pms
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all the time. The courts are
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there's a trial going on where you
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minister as witnesses for each side.
It is incredibly unhealthy. Israel is an

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incredibly you know, and I am
a Zionist, but Israel has an incredibly

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unhealthy political system because of it.
The courts are ridiculous, and that's what's

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going to happen here. I mean, that's where we're headed. If Republicans

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actually, when they get power back, if they ever do you know,

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do the same thing. You'll see
left wingers crying about it. But I'll

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quickly want to say about the polls. You know what engenders this kind of

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like reactionary thing. It's it is
the double standard. Again. If you

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didn't have the double standard, people
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what you have to say about Donald
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through the you know, they've been
through the rush collusion stuff and just on

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the double standards. Perfect segue is
the FBI is not reluctance but just ignoring

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subpoenas. It's it's ignoring subpoenas and
not releasing unclassified documents to Congress. Right,

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we had this document that says that
a what would you call him,

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a Ukrainian business associative hunter said that
Joe Biden had been bribed with five million

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dollars in a complex scheme that would
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yeah, he said it would take
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is a weird, weird thing to
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I'm slightly skeptical about this because bribery
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bribery to one person, might just
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which is bad enough, but it's
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knows what's in this document. Every
time the FBI lies and redacts something,

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they know exactly what it is that
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I forgot what the number of recordings
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They say, with Joe Biden,
any other Republican president, maybe any

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other president, this would be a
massive, massive story. Right, There's

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recording supposedly of the president or then
vice president of the United States accepting bribes

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from a foreign national. And yet
I'm not even sure anyone really covered this

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in any major mainstream establishment media organization. You did you see any of those

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stories? Very very limited. So
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the early pieces from the propaganda outlet
the Washington Post have been about trying to

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downplay the significance of what's going on. There really are two scandal or potential

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scandals going on here. The first
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that Biden was a participant in a
five million dollar bribery scheme, that it

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was run through the type of shell
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oversight in journalistic reporting, and that
there are seventeen audio tapes that the briber

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kept as protection in case things got
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that's a huge story. By comparison, you might remember that the Russia collusion

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hoax was built around, you know, Jake Tapper fueled claims that Russia had

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compromat on Donald Trump. And you
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that got going is that a Democrat
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who denied this, of course,
but then he fed that to a

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literal suspected Russian spy who was on
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who was on the payroll of a
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with a conspiracy theory involving Donald Trump
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Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee. So there's what we went wild with

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for four years, even though there's
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to be skeptical. Right here,
you have a unrelated matter, years before

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the first Trump impeachment, a credible
whistleblower saying that he had spoken to someone

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involved in this bribery scheme, that
there were seventeen tapes of evidence. Well,

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the fact of the seventeen tapes,
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interview of the credible, confidential human
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I'm just saying this is like a
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Okay, so there's the one scandal
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is that when the FBI learned about
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the US attorney out of the Western
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realize that it was very serious and
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to the US attorney in Delaware who
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the Biden family. And it died. And we don't know exactly why it

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died. We know a little bit
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headquarters that there were individuals who conspired
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that it was disinformation and then hid
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like major tip behind a wall that
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of the FBI scandal. The other
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to congressional oversight attention and congressional overseas
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denied or like sort of pretended like
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And then when Chuck Grassley. I
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He was like, Ray, I've
seen the document. Stop pretending you don't

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know it exists. So once he
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Their whistleblower must be you know on
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have shown them a copy of this
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know, the top two people in
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works with the FBI on this like
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there was this claim, but we
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and Grassy comes out again and he's
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your lies. We want more,
and we also, by the way,

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have more that we're going to be
asking you for, so start giving more

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access of this document to the American
people. So at that point Ray says,

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well, we'll let Congress look at
it, which keeps him from getting

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held in contempt of Congress. But
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show it to them, and Grassly, because he's already seen it, says,

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yeah, by the way, you
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calls with the Biden family. Stop
your games, be transparent. This isn't

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even a classified document. You're leaking
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you did on May eighteenth, which
I'm still trying to figure out exactly what

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that was about. I mean,
it's like major explosive news, and to

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your point, nobody's covering it because
our corporate media are all propagandists. It's

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amazing that the FBI was caught redacting
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the most explosive, as you say, I would say, charged with the

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most explosive piece of potential evidence that
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not even that big of a deal, you know, I did. I've

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done a lot of thinking about I've
gone back and thought about what happened during

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the time where Biden was vice president. And I'm not the first talk about

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this, obviously, but you'll remember
in two thousand and eighteen, he was

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like at the Brookings Institution or something
like that, bragging about how he had

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threatened the then president Orshenko or whatever
his name was, pulling usaid if he

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didn't fire this prosecutor and forever we
were told that, yes, it's not

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a big deal because this prosecutor though
he was investigating the company. That Hunter

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was right, it's not a big
deal. But really we should ask,

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and by the way he called,
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Just you know, he gave that. He gives us fantastical story about how

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he had said, I'm going to
give you six hours and if you get

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it done, you know you're losing
your money. But actually he had called

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him for weeks, pressuring him on
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Their international community had come up with
a bunch of different reforms for Ukraine,

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but this was the one part of
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on, which is pretty suspicious to
me. But in an event so much

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it as someone at the White House, if the president the vice president of

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the United States knew that their family
was making money, is it a conflict

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of interest to have that prosecutor fired
somewhere because we know that that's probably what

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happened, and that alone, to
me, is an impeachable offense. Right

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it doesn't even have to be bribery
helping a family member using the taxpayer dollars

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that are supposed to be sent to
this bulwark of democracy, that is,

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and saying like, in addition to
totally fulfilling all that my son wanted as

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in response for being paid by this
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Is not going to cut it,
like even if you even if you

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think it's good policy, which a
lot of people don't think that the firing

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of that prosecutor was good. And
we also know that one of one of

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the people at that company sent an
email to Hunter saying thanks for letting me

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meet with your dad, or thanks
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Like wouldn't you think that if this
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would be like, we got to
find out if this meeting happened. This

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is crazy. There's recording supposedly of
him taking a bribe from this person in

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this company. Oh maybe you know
whatever, it's I think one of the

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thing is interesting, as the media
run interference to protect their their party and

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the Biden regime, they just keep
saying like, well, there's no there's

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no evidence, like, there's no
evidence of the bribe other than the claim

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from the very reliable whistle blower or
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Sorry if I misspoke on that earlier, who had spoken directly with the

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person who was allegedly the briber.
I would like anyone in the media who

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has the opportunity to ask a Biden
official a question to say, I think

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you could solve all of this extremely
quickly and extremely easily. Mister president,

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can you explain to us why every
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grandchild that you refuse to acknowledge exists, has bank accounts set up in their

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name to receive money from foreign oligarchs
and energy concerns, Like could you just

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explain to us what are they being
paid for? And I'm sure it's nothing

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corrupt, So could you just tell
us what that is? And then we

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will stop asking questions, not that
anyone's asking questions, No one's asking questions,

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but then we'll stop being like thinking
it looks shady, because of course,

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there's a good explanation for why every
member of the Biden family gets money

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from Chinese and Ukrainian and Romanian and
Russian oligarcs, like, of course there's

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a good reason. What is it? What are they getting paid for?

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You know, when they ask used
to ask Trump questions like did you,

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sir, you know, glued with
houten to do this or that? But

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with buying, they're like there's this
crazy thing out there that people are saying,

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you know, this wacky conspiracy theory. And then you know, then

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he says, where's the money?
L L you know, like, where's

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all the money? I don't know. That's that's a good question. This

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should be like a Gary Hart was
a Gary Hart, you know where he's

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like catch me, and they caught
him. If I weren't cheating on my

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wife, it should be easy to
find rut row Um, did you ever

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meet Where's the money? The guy
became a millionaire while serving in public office?

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Like used not like there's no money
around. He used to pay,

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like I'm not even joking. He
used to pay and listen to his book

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money blah blah blah. But he
used to pay like twelve thousand dollars a

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month to rent a place down in
McLean or wherever. You know, he's

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pretending to be on a train back
to his small digs in Delaware, but

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yet well actually doesn't have a six
million dollars or like beach home there as

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well. It's I don't know the
lack of cure. I don't quick thing

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on this that is somehow related.
Yes, last week I saw on during

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the week on Twitter a bunch of
award shows and award dinners for journalists like

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Ben Collins of NBC won the Walter
Crunkite Award for Journalism, and it hit

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me. And there was another one, and it hit me that I can't

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wait for these people to be destroyed. The media just has to be destroyed.

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I don't know if it's going to
happen. Maybe it'll be like a

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niche thing for the left or whatever, but it needs to be destroyed because

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it is has gone from useless to
really dangerous. I don't want to repeat

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Trump's phrase, but about the media, but it is fake news is no

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I was gonna say the enemy of
the people, but it's fake news is

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the enemy of the people. And
I would agree to fake news is the

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enemy of the people. One of
the things I always thought was funny about

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that is when he said fake news
is the enemy of the people, a

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bunch of people said, why are
you attacking me? And I'm thinking,

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why are you admitting to being fake
news? Like if you're not fake news?

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There's no attack on you if you
are fake news. Yes, he

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is being pretty pretty extremely angry at
you. The victimhood of the press reminds

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me a little bit of the of
the sort of victimhood we see with pride

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stuff. So the President of the
United States put flags up the other day

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for one of these pride events on
the same level as the as the US

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flag, which is supposed to represent
all of us, and he puts it

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up there. And if you say
something about that, you are the aggressor

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in the culture war. They are
not the aggressor in the culture war putting

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up giant flags that that many upset
many people in this country, a large

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either a majority of people or a
large minority of people. But you are

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And that that whole event the other
day really annoyed me, pretty grouchy about

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it and writing a column. But
what annoyed me more than all is his

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little speech about how all our children
are actually where all children, actually all

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of our children that you are children
are actually like his children, not all

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the children, not the grandchild he
pretends he doesn't know exists, but every

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other child in America is all of
our children. That is a completely totalitarian

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idea intotalitarian society's children become all our
children, and this is why they socialized

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education. They you know, they
push this pre case stuff because they want

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those children earlier, and then they
send them off to colleges that have been

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taken over by radicals and idio lugs
and public schools I think at least are

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maybe the core and biggest problem we
face in this country. So for its

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culture war stuff goes. That's where
all the indoctrination happens. That's where kids

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are taken away from their parents and
they learn many of their bad ideas.

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I'm not saying every public school is
terrible or every public school is run by

408
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leftists, but too many are,
and you know, and maybe a majority

409
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:49,279
of them are. How do you
feel about that, Molly, I'm so

410
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:55,119
sorry, but I'm still stuck on
the issue that President Biden and his wife

411
00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:00,559
Joe Biden do not acknowledge their grandchild. So beyond politics, for me,

412
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,920
that this is inappropriate and I want
every I want like the nation to run

413
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:11,240
an intervention on the Biden family and
just get them to stop being so horrible

414
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:18,720
to this poor innocent grandchild who did
nothing to deserve abandonment. From her father's

415
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:22,519
family. I ask you a question
about that. Has a court ruled on

416
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:25,920
the paternity of this child and stuff
like that, Like is that all squared

417
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,880
away or do they not speak out
for legal reasons. No, he's definitely

418
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,160
the father, but they're now in
dispute over I think money issues of some

419
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:41,319
kind, but I don't. I
actually don't try to get involved in family

420
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,920
drama too much. But this,
to me is really awful. And I

421
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,880
understand that Hunter Biden is, in
addition to being the recipient of a lot

422
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,680
of foreign oligarch's money, you know, a very serious drug addict whose life

423
00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:00,359
is a mess. I get that, but we all have family members whose

424
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:07,839
lives or messes, and that does
not excuse mistreatment of an innocent child.

425
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:13,119
And I through my in laws,
I have heard of this story of like

426
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:20,079
a close family member who was born
in not ideals situation and there was a

427
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:22,640
lot of like drama about it,
and then sort of like the family patriarch

428
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,079
stepped in and said we will love
this child, like this is what we're

429
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:31,960
going to do. And people experience
this all over the country and they respond

430
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,920
far far better. I watched this
duck dynasty thing. I didn't watch Duck

431
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,519
Dynasty when it was on a TV
show, but they have like a podcast

432
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:45,519
now, and they had a situation
where, you know, I think they're

433
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:51,279
like four boys and in the middle
of those boys is a daughter that they

434
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:54,359
didn't know about, born to you
know, born somewhere else. And it

435
00:32:54,480 --> 00:33:01,240
was while the patriarch of the family
was an addict. And the way that

436
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,359
he and his wife, who he's
been married to for the whole time,

437
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:07,599
dealt with this news, and the
way the siblings dealt with the news,

438
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:13,759
it was a beautiful story of love
and forgiveness and redemption and just like the

439
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:17,559
beauty that can come from recognizing like
again, it's not this little girl,

440
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,680
well now she's like in her forties. It's not this woman's fault that her

441
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:29,319
father was having an affair with her
mother, you know. And that's what

442
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:35,880
I want to see in our leaders, whether they're celebrities or politicians or you

443
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,440
know, models good behavior for other
people so that when they're dealing with bad

444
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,359
street Also, I just can't believe, like we spend all this time talking

445
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:49,240
about Donald Trump not being morally good
person, and I'm right there with you,

446
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,599
Like the man has not lived his
life in a way that would leave

447
00:33:52,720 --> 00:34:00,519
him protected. When you claims of
adultery come about, for instance, abandoning

448
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:06,039
a child is a like nobody should
support that. And where is the aforementioned

449
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:10,400
pastor of the world, David French
near cult member, where is he on

450
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,519
this? Like, why isn't this
his obsession? Like he likes to tell

451
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:19,239
people that they're not as good of
Christians as he is. Maybe he should

452
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,880
like take some of it. I
don't know. I would. I would

453
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,119
never bring stuff like this up.
But the problem is this, Honestly,

454
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:29,920
I would vote for a psychopath if
that did what I wanted in government.

455
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,559
I mean, I've written about this. I have no problem. If you're

456
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:36,559
going to like make us a freer
place, in a better and more prosperous

457
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:38,599
and moral place and virtuous place,
I'll vote for you if you're a psychopath.

458
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,159
But the thing is, if you're
going to bring up my children and

459
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,880
everyone's children and your little authoritarian or
big authoritarian ideas about how they should be

460
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,320
raised, then I'm going to take
umbrage with what you're doing moral or yourself.

461
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,159
Like if you didn't get involved in
other people's children, I wouldn't care,

462
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,320
right, And if you're going to
if everyone's going to hold you up

463
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:06,639
a kind of moral answer to Donald
Trump, which is what people did.

464
00:35:06,679 --> 00:35:09,199
When what's that guy's name? He
writes the features used to work at NR.

465
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,480
Who writes the features in at The
Atlantic? Um, I forget his

466
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:16,320
name. He just wrote the crystallick
feature. Whatever it is, Tim,

467
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,480
He wrote these, you know,
odes to the morality and the decency of

468
00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:23,360
Joe Biden. Well, he's not
a decent person at all. Anyone who

469
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,000
believes that you should be able to
you know, who changes his opinion on

470
00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:31,159
everything, but especially things like abortion
in the way that Biden has done is

471
00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:35,519
not a decent person anyway. But
also his personal life is not decent and

472
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:37,480
the things he does is not decent. So then if that's the discussion,

473
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,000
then I'm forced to have that discussion, then we're gonna bring it up,

474
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:44,719
right, Yes, Otherwise I wouldn't
care about Hunter. I mean I really

475
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:50,480
wouldn't. Yes, I actually don't
care about Hunter that much, except I'm

476
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,000
curious about his involvement as sort of
like the money man for the Biden family,

477
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,920
which clearly he you know, he
talks about this that a lot was

478
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,559
expected of him to be doing the
already work on behalf of the family,

479
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,920
and I think that was probably you
know, I also think that's like an

480
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,679
evil thing to do to your kid, is to make them be out there

481
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,599
collecting the money for the business that
I still don't really understand what they're providing

482
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:15,719
in response to the money. But
number one, remember when Trump brought up

483
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,960
Hunter and what of the debates and
Biden's like Bo's died in Iraq, you

484
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,559
know, like he's just he's incoherent
on this stuff and I don't know much

485
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:29,719
about it. I'm sure he's a
fine person. And I don't blame parents

486
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,280
sometimes for what their kids do.
It's their kid's own fault. But if

487
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:37,199
if you're part of their business when
they're doing these bad things, and it's

488
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,480
worthwhile bringing up what your son is
about. Sorry the interrupt, but yes,

489
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,960
it is also true. Even though
I'm like all upset about this poor

490
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,199
little girl who did nothing wrong,
the larger issue of how the left is

491
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:58,440
trying to take ownership of my children
is it's pretty terrifying, and it's evidence

492
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,519
that this is what they've been doing, like their march through every institution,

493
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:06,000
in their policies, they really are
They really don't like the idea that your

494
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:08,159
children are yours and not theirs.
I mean, you saw this in the

495
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:15,679
education fights in recent years, with
union heads saying basically they thought they could

496
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,400
usurp parental authority in all sorts of
ways. Yeah, I mean pr in

497
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,760
his review of Hillary Clinton's it takes
a village road. It takes a village

498
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,639
to raise kids in this country.
In that village is Washington. So obviously

499
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,599
that's what they still believe. They
believe that a big, centralized bureaucracy should

500
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:35,000
be raising your kids. And this
has always been the leftist idea because they

501
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:37,760
want uniformity, not diversity. What
they're doing right now is the opposite of

502
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:43,280
diversity. First of all, people, they want your kids to identify through

503
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,559
immutable characteristics, their sexuality, their
gender, or what their you know,

504
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:50,920
what they think their gender is that
rather than achievements in deeds. This is

505
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,840
completely an American It's trying to destroy
meritocracy. Am I just going on like

506
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,679
a crazy person today? Also say, like all of these comments came at

507
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,920
a first off on the flag.
Two things on the flag. One,

508
00:38:02,039 --> 00:38:06,239
I don't think any flag other than
the American flag should be flown from the

509
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,760
White House. Or government buildings.
And I mean by that, let's say

510
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,960
it's like a special Marine corpdate.
I don't think the Marine Corps flag should

511
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,760
be flown in the same way that
they were flying the American flag. I

512
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:21,280
think it's divisive. And that's like
obviously not like anyone has a exist to

513
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,760
represent everything, institutions, people,
everything in that country. You don't need

514
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,840
any other flags like that. The
second thing I want to say is that

515
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:34,280
as much as I have grown well, I'm going to really like not like

516
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:38,159
the Pride flag because of It's like
I love the rainbow, and I grew

517
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,400
up in this, you know,
some of these and eighties where like we

518
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,639
all were rainbow gear all the time
because we were in California and it was

519
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:46,039
like surfer gear, you know.
And I love the rainbow. And I'm

520
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:49,360
a Christian, so I love the
rainbow. And every time I see a

521
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,440
rainbow, it's a reminder of God's
promise that he would never destroy the earth

522
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,760
again by flooding, and you know
all this stuff. I love rainbows,

523
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,679
but I hate the political activism behind
the Pride flag. But having said that,

524
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:05,639
the Progressive Pride flag is literally the
ugliest thing I've ever seen. It's

525
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,559
ugly as sin. It's just visually
like it's like a cry for help,

526
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,119
like, hey, people, we
hate ourselves and we're trying to get help

527
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:19,320
here, and we're gonna like make
a flag. That's the ugliest flag you've

528
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,639
ever seen, a sort of a
loud, overt symbol that we're desperate for

529
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,559
help and you should stop enabling us. And that's the flag they flew from

530
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:31,159
the White House. I mean,
sometimes people should take a step back and

531
00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:35,840
think about this. There's a flag
that just represents a bunch of different sexual

532
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:44,559
iterations of sexuality and of gender dysphoria, and then they go under it and

533
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,159
wave it around like it means anything
important or good about people. If you

534
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,519
just thought about that for a second, you would be like, this is

535
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:53,960
insanity. And we have little kids
in elementary school running around like a bunch

536
00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:00,159
of brainless culture revolution warriors waving it
around in schools. We're not there's no

537
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,199
diversity in that. It's just idiocy. And let me tell you this,

538
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,280
and people will get mad when I
say this in my real life, but

539
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:10,239
I think the most progressive today are
far more comfortable into a rainbow flag than

540
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:15,239
they are under the United States flag, and that is really speaks that's something

541
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:19,400
terrible that's going on in this country
right now. I just you know,

542
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,039
they really believe in those things.
Yeah, that's the only thing I would

543
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:23,400
say, sort of quote in favor
of what the White House did. I

544
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:28,920
think there was truth in advertising.
I do think they would like to destroy

545
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,880
the American flag, that they think
it represents everything they hate and that they

546
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,280
would like to be flying underneath.
They're not just political flag, but it's

547
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,960
really a religious flag of progressive pride. The you know, which I should

548
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,480
have made clear. It's not just
the rainbows. It's like the weird triangles

549
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:51,000
and dots and you know, jots
and tittles like on the flag to represent

550
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:54,280
more and more like it will continue
to be modified, I'm sure. But

551
00:40:54,360 --> 00:41:00,880
there's an honesty about Biden saying this
is the flag that rules me. I

552
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,599
would love for someone to ask him, do you know can you name what

553
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,239
LGBTQI plus stands for? It can
name me all the acronym like, name

554
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,000
me all the different words and what
they stand for. There's no way he

555
00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:15,360
knows. I'll beat you up.
I'm as smart as man. Ever,

556
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:21,000
it's just insanity and I'm not like
I think that we need to make I

557
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,719
don't like, I don't want people
to feel like they need to be in

558
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,360
fear of something. I want people
to live their lives the way they want

559
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,679
in this country, as long as
they don't interfere in other people's lives.

560
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,320
I'm very little return about that stuff. That doesn't mean I think it's okay

561
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,159
what people do. I still can
there's a judgmentalism in me about morality and

562
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:42,000
all that, but it's just it
just has gotten insane that we have.

563
00:41:42,119 --> 00:41:45,000
And I don't like the Rainbow flag, even with that that stupid brown thing

564
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:46,440
that they just put in it.
And do you notice how fast this grows

565
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,440
and is normalized, Like literally they
put a new line in that you don't

566
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,639
even know what it is. But
if you don't accept it, you're the

567
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:54,840
worst person who ever lived. Like
this can happen like in a week's time.

568
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,360
So also Biden held this rally at
the White House where they were under

569
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:06,760
the Progressive Pride flag, and he
told everybody there, and keep in mind

570
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,920
he'd been at Fort Bragg the day
before, which has been renamed Fort Liberty,

571
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:15,199
and he's like, I have never
seen anything approaching this much courage as

572
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:20,239
I see before me right now,
And he had literally been at a military

573
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,360
installation the day before, and I
just find that interesting. But also,

574
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:29,760
did you see the picture of the
woman who had cut off her breasts and

575
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,880
had a beard and the man who
had plastic surgery to add breasts were going

576
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,440
topless in front of the White House? And the picture went viral and they

577
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:45,199
were sort of like, we've made
it. We're topless showing our body mutilation

578
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:50,760
in all its glory or horror in
front of the White House, and that

579
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:55,559
illiterate, incompetent press secretary I forget
her name came out and she was like,

580
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,920
so, actually, we're like,
we're good with everything up to that

581
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,480
point. We're not ready for the
nudity yet. So but if you are,

582
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,719
your whole identity is wrapped, not
wrapped up, your whole identity is

583
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,440
sexuality and sex and gender. Then
why would that even be a weird thing

584
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:17,440
to happen in an event like this. It's a perfectly expected thing to happen

585
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,760
at an event like this, isn't
it. I mean, I'm sorry,

586
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,039
I've been I've seen pride parades in
New York and elsewhere, and there's a

587
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:28,800
lot everything is motivated and driven or
most of it by sexualities. You remember

588
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:35,320
the Onion headline local gay rights parade
sets movement back twenty years. Yeah,

589
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,920
but yeah, like there was a
point, like the whole point of it

590
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:43,239
was supposed to be putting on display, the like raw sexual basis of the

591
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:46,760
identity, not what you would want
at the White House. Or you don't

592
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,159
have to go to the Pride parade, right, but now the White House

593
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,119
impels you to celebrate these things as
a nation. You were saying you don't

594
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:58,039
care what people do. I think
that's the wrong way to put it.

595
00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:04,159
I think that if there's a parade
where they are subjecting young children to horrible

596
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,440
sites, I actually think all those
people should be jailed. And I'm not

597
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:12,559
even joking, Like I think if
you can't protect children, set up again.

598
00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:17,440
No, I realized I might be
more extreme, but um, I

599
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,039
just like we were talking about parental
control versus government control, and I very

600
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:25,599
firmly believe that. But I also
think, like if you're forcing your kids

601
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:30,559
to do something gross sexually, or
if you're physically abusing them, or if

602
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:34,480
you're malnourishing them, I do think
there's a you know, obviously a line

603
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:40,079
at which that's you know, of
course you've lost your parental rights space.

604
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:44,480
Of course. I just mean when
I'm speaking about adults, adults should be

605
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:46,119
able to live their lives. I
don't want anyone to stop from doing things

606
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:52,920
that don't hurt other people in a
very obvious and real way. It doesn't

607
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,360
go for children. And when they're
all are children, When you abuse children,

608
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,760
when you parts off of children or
her children in ways over you know,

609
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:07,559
with using the patina of science and
stuff like that, that's that's a

610
00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:12,800
problem, right. I agree,
Um, you know, I just then

611
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:15,519
they're all our children. We have
to protect children from this sort of stuff.

612
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:17,039
But bind doesn't. You're telling me
the person who thinks it's okay to

613
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:22,039
abort to have sex selective abortion into
the ninth month cares about children. I'm

614
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:25,920
sorry, I don't believe that that's
true anyway. Sometimes again, I feel

615
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,599
look and being you know, it's
always a fight not to be radicalized,

616
00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:31,880
and I feel like I'm like,
David, check yourself, like, stop

617
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,960
calling this a totalitarian state. But
I've said this before, and I think

618
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,480
you have said it too. People
think totalitarian and totalitarianism means the lack of

619
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,719
being able to practice politics. But
no, it means having politics in all

620
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:51,280
your life, your commerce, your
family, sex, TV, everything,

621
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,440
And doesn't America feel like that,
like in schools and your your you know

622
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:59,480
everything. I mean, the Communist
thought that the parents were too dumb to

623
00:45:59,559 --> 00:46:01,760
raise children in the right way and
they would take children away. And somehow

624
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,760
I feel like that's the same instincts
that's going on here. And I don't

625
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,320
want to sound like I'm some kind
of conspiracy theorist, but how else am

626
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,840
I supposed to see this sort of
thing? How as our parents supposed to

627
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,639
see this thing? Bind says we
must protect everyone, but he does,

628
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:16,840
and he goes after Christian families all
the time. He only protects certain people.

629
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:22,679
I don't know. I'm really riled
up today a little bit. Someone

630
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,880
was saying something about how like,
and I resent your calmness, and I'm

631
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,119
riled up. I wanted you cool. I wanted you to match my riled

632
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:34,280
upness. So someone on Twitter was
like, Hey, are you guys taping

633
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,199
your podcast today because I need it? And I was like, well,

634
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,079
is there anything you want to talk
about? And one of the things he

635
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:42,119
was saying was that he would like
some glimmer of hope because it seems like

636
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:47,559
everything is so so bad, and
I agree that everything is very bad.

637
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,320
I am hopeful. I mean,
ultimately, I'm hopeful because I'm Christian,

638
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:57,039
and I know you know that Jesus
died on the cross to save us from

639
00:46:57,039 --> 00:47:02,719
our sins, that we what's how
opening in earthly tumult is not the be

640
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,199
all end all. But I'm also
hopeful because we actually have a lot going

641
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:12,000
for us in this country. Like
when you look at other countries that fell

642
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:17,639
to totalitarian systems, they actually had
a much smaller percentage of the country resisting.

643
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:23,920
We have a pretty large percentage resisting, and we're still having that large

644
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:29,000
percentage win elections big time. And
you can get in despair when you look

645
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:35,079
at like the twenty twenty election,
where you know, Joe Biden received the

646
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:42,119
most votes of any human in American
history, and it looks like, wow,

647
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:45,199
we can't even you know, and
even though seemingly he didn't campaign and

648
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,800
he didn't have any support, and
Donald Trump seemed to have a tremendous amount

649
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,840
of support, and he was like
one of the only presidents in American history

650
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:55,360
to not just gain votes but like
gain a ton of votes and not win

651
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,400
reelection. It's all, you know, it's very discouraging. But if you

652
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,800
look at it another way, the
election came down to forty thousand votes across

653
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,480
three states, like that election,
and that's not like an insurmountable thing for

654
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:13,039
Republicans to get together and figure out. Like they don't have to be as

655
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:17,800
good at ballot harvesting or ballot trafficking
as the left is. But could they

656
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,320
get like ten thousand votes here or
there by doing some of the same games.

657
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:27,400
Of course they could, And there
are a lot of smart people who

658
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,079
care about the country. Some of
our institutions have recently become much better.

659
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:36,760
Like I was just thinking about it
with the Heritage Foundation's fiftieth anniversary. They

660
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,159
kind of started off really strong,
and then there was like some things that

661
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:45,119
were great and some things that weren't. But like kind of I think some

662
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:47,039
people felt that there was this period
where they weren't really in the battle the

663
00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:51,320
way they wanted them to be.
They've seemed to be back in the battle

664
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,960
in a way that's very helpful.
I don't know, it just seems like

665
00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:00,239
there are tens of millions of people
willing to fight, and there are a

666
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:05,480
lot of wise leaders and some people
are learning lessons, and it's no time.

667
00:49:05,519 --> 00:49:08,920
It's certainly no time to despair,
like we would have to fall into

668
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,800
a much worse situation before despair.
But that is also true that we have

669
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:19,159
to fight. Yeah, I don't. I don't think we're going to fall

670
00:49:19,199 --> 00:49:22,960
into a totalitarian state. I hope
people don't think that. That's what I'm

671
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,480
saying. I do think actually,
in many ways our lives are better than

672
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:30,119
ever, but on the political front, it is getting worse than ever.

673
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:35,159
So it's this weird paradox I think, where you have people who benefiting from

674
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:38,760
the great ideas and institutions of American
life rejecting them. And the reason I

675
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:45,639
am less I guess I'm less positive
about Republicans learning how to do things is

676
00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:49,119
that too many Republicans, in my
mind, have gone to the dark side

677
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,159
on how the states should act and
how the states should govern our lives and

678
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,719
manage our lives. So that is
troubling to me as well. I'm basically

679
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,960
talking about national conservative type. So
if they win, then it's maybe better

680
00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:06,519
in many ways than it is when
Democrats and progressives win, but it's also

681
00:50:07,039 --> 00:50:10,320
heading in a bad direction from my
perspective at least. But yeah, no,

682
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,599
I don't think. I think that
we are ungovernable in many ways.

683
00:50:14,599 --> 00:50:16,639
And that's I say that as in
a positive way. You can't. Some

684
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:21,000
guy in Montana with an arsenal in
his house is not a governorable person.

685
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:22,639
He's just there right, Hell,
maybe he'll pay his taxes or whatever.

686
00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:24,760
And there are a lot of people
in this country who aren't going to go

687
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,079
along with this sort of thing.
And that's why, of course, I

688
00:50:28,119 --> 00:50:30,280
think the Second Amendment's so important.
I'm not saying this is gonna be a

689
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,719
revolution tomorrow or anything, but I'm
just saying we have rights still that don't

690
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,639
allow that sort of thing. So
yeah, I don't think people should be

691
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:38,599
distraught in the way they are.
We get so, we got a lot

692
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:42,679
of mail. We've already taped these
episodes that we're going to run the next

693
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,559
few weeks on AMAS or whatever.
But a lot of people were like,

694
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,880
what can we do. It's coming
to an end, it's over. Listen,

695
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,599
my grandparents grew up in Europe and
World War Two. We are not

696
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,320
close to anything being over. We
are going to be okay, but it

697
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,719
is not you know, it is
a situation and I think we need to

698
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,320
take seriously be balanced about it.
We're not over. But also a lot

699
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,000
of work needs to be done and
now is the time to really do that

700
00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:12,480
work. And I hate Nazi Germany
comparisons that I'm not really making a comparison.

701
00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:15,239
I'm always saying that the Germans were
educated, very educated people, and

702
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,559
they were not poor people in the
big world sense when they fell to totalitarian

703
00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:25,440
ideas. So my point only is
that you can also things can be going

704
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:30,239
well, and you can let stupid
people and evil people lead you in a

705
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,320
wrong direction. And I just I
think Americans are less lockstep than people in

706
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:39,039
Europe, for instance, or whatever, and that won't happen help like will

707
00:51:39,039 --> 00:51:43,880
it? Probably not? So if
you watched any good movies or anything.

708
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:52,639
Recently, I watched a show called
poker Face on a Peacock network with Natasha

709
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:57,719
Leon. Is that how you say
her name? I'm not sure that so

710
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,119
it is. I think it's Ryan
Johnson who did like what was that movie?

711
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,519
It's done? A Star Wars movie
and stuff like that, I think,

712
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,119
And it is kind of a takeoff. I would say it's episodic,

713
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,400
like there's a murderer and they solve
it. And there are characters in each

714
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,280
episode so far as I've watched,
so it's not one of these legacy kind

715
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,679
of things that happened where you know, it's a big story like you know,

716
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,639
Sopranos or Yellowstone or whatever. It's
not like a soap opera. It's

717
00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:30,679
just her, this woman who is
based in my book, I think based

718
00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:35,000
on Colombo show that I love,
where she's really can tell people are lying

719
00:52:35,079 --> 00:52:39,280
and she notices a lot. She's
I don't know, I wouldn't say autistic.

720
00:52:40,039 --> 00:52:45,440
I'm not exactly sure, but she's
really smart about certain things, and

721
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:47,800
it's it's pretty funny and it seems
okay. I know that critics like it

722
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:52,840
a lot. I thought it was
okay. I am going to this week

723
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,880
see the new Spider Man movies since
everyone has very nice things to say about

724
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,960
it, and I love the first
one in that series, the Multiverse one,

725
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,400
and then but other than that,
I don't think I've really watched anything.

726
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,400
If there's a good review, could
you write that up, Spider Man.

727
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,199
Yeah, A lot of people have
been asking I haven't really watched anything.

728
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,679
I do want to say, I
like Natasha Leone and I liked her

729
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:22,119
in Russian Dahl Did you see that? I did not watch that. Now

730
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:27,320
it's been around. She was in
like everyone says, I love you.

731
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,840
That Woody Allen movie that was a
musical. I don't know if you remember

732
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,599
it from the nineties. It was
very good, funny Woody Allen movie.

733
00:53:32,639 --> 00:53:36,480
If people are still allowed to watch
him, I'm not sure if it's streaming

734
00:53:36,599 --> 00:53:40,880
or not. Yeah, and I
just yeah, I like Natasha Leone,

735
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:49,119
Okay, um. I haven't really
watched anything, I don't think, except

736
00:53:49,199 --> 00:53:54,360
that we finished up The Marvelous Missus
Maisiel. What do you think I gave

737
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,920
up on that show like two seasons
and you know why. It wasn't funny

738
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,159
enough in a sense, like the
comedy I actually, when I was a

739
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:07,199
kid went to the Catskills occasionally and
saw like Checky Green and these like famous

740
00:54:07,199 --> 00:54:09,400
cat Skill comics occasionally, and they
made me laugh so much, even as

741
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,440
a kid. And when I watched
the show, I'm like, these people

742
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,719
are just aren't that funny? That
makes sense? Right? Yeah it does.

743
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,800
And let me just say I completely
agree, And that was like always

744
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,199
a problem for me. On the
other hand, I think it's hard to

745
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:27,920
write a show where it would be
like genuine stand up because that's kind of

746
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,639
an art form to get connected to
an audience, and it's something that you

747
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:36,159
like fine tune over a long period
of time, and you know, the

748
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,960
even like the difference between going to
a live show and then watching like an

749
00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:44,079
HBO special of a comic is very
very different. So I sort of forgave

750
00:54:44,119 --> 00:54:46,119
it that. But mostly I find
it interesting that I didn't like it as

751
00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:50,559
much as my husband did. It
doesn't seem like a show that my husband

752
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:53,599
would love, but he really did
like it, and I think he really

753
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:58,239
thought the writing on it was good, and I agree, And there are

754
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:01,480
it's like the best, you know, the main character is great, but

755
00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:08,159
the supporting actors and actresses are very
good. Right, maybe I'll give it,

756
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:10,960
Maybe I'll give it a chance.
I'm not even telling you too,

757
00:55:12,159 --> 00:55:15,079
you know. And we're just kind
of getting crazy busy for this. We're

758
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:22,039
doing a cruise with Hillsdale where I
teach a little bit, and we're doing

759
00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:29,079
a cruise in the Mediterranean, and
we are very excited for this. Can

760
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:31,960
you tell us what country is you're
visiting? We will start in its public

761
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:37,519
information, so I'm happy to tell
we're starting in Istanbul, and then we'll

762
00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:39,199
be at Ephesis, which I've heard
from a lot of people. Ephesis is

763
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,960
like the best part of the whole
journey, and it's even better than Athens.

764
00:55:44,599 --> 00:55:47,280
And then we'll be in Cyprus and
Greece, and then we'll be in

765
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,880
Israel for three days and then more
Grease, and then we'll stop in Athens.

766
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,480
No, nice little ancient visit all
the ancient sites. So Victor Davis

767
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,719
Hansen is going on this as well, and Sparta. Yeah, I think

768
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:07,559
my husband is mostly excited about that, Like there's he's just really thrilled that

769
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:12,599
will be in the place of the
antiquities with the world's foremost scholar. Yeah,

770
00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:15,239
he's a classic. So I think
I read his book called A Spartan

771
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,960
Way of War, which I loved, but I know he's probably written more

772
00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:22,480
on the topic obviously. That's exciting. Wow, that's great. I'm really

773
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:28,159
excited. I'm also really excited to
be away from phone calls and TV hits

774
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,880
and podcasts and podcasts. No,
I actually love doing our podcast, but

775
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,000
I'm excited to like I'll be working
the whole time i'm there. But it

776
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,199
won't be the same. It won't
be all the TV and phone calls and

777
00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:45,719
stuff because I will not access to
those things just for listeners. So the

778
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:50,320
next two weeks, I believe right, we will have full episodes of just

779
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,199
you know. It turned out that
very little I would say, very little

780
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:58,960
political stuff though some mostly just personal, very personal. At some points I

781
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,199
have to say off about our lives, especially you know, and uh real,

782
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:07,760
we get real insight into what propels
Molly and her career, what motivates

783
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:12,280
her, and we get even insights
from David. So it's good. And

784
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,519
then we'll be like a day late
on the third, the third, like

785
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,719
three weeks from now, we'll be
a day late. I think, okay,

786
00:57:17,719 --> 00:57:21,760
because I'll be and on that day
and continue sending your mail. We

787
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,679
love it. You can send it
to what is it? Mail at the

788
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:30,840
Federalist dot com? Is that wrong? No? What was it? Isn't

789
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:37,079
it Radio at the Federalist dot com. Radio at the Federalist dot Radio There

790
00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:39,920
is a mail account, so yeah, radio at the Federalist dot com.

791
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:45,079
Um, until then, we love
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