1 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,280 All right, Happy Saturday morning, Good morning, hobby friends. Welcome to 2 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:40,200 Hobby Hotline. This is episode three seven of Hobby Hotline. I'm your host, 3 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:45,200 Logan Ward, and with me today is Horatio Ruez. Horatio is on 4 00:00:46,119 --> 00:00:49,240 This is on my left. How's it going, Horatio doing well? Doing 5 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,280 well? Logan, great to do this with the first time we're on air 6 00:00:52,359 --> 00:00:56,079 together. So looking forward to it. Cool man and the man who needs 7 00:00:56,159 --> 00:01:00,520 no introduction, mister stale Gum himself, Chris Harris. What's going on? 8 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,920 Buddy up? Everybody? A couple of weeks for the national starting to get 9 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:11,000 excited. I don't know about you guys, but I always liked Cleveland as 10 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,159 a national place. But it's not everybody's cup of tea. I get it. 11 00:01:15,159 --> 00:01:19,200 It's not Rose Mott, but uh, looking forward to it. Are 12 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,840 you the you guys going to Cleveland? I'll be there. Unfortunately I won't. 13 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,040 Uh. Yeah, wife is expecting soon and so I'm gonna miss out. 14 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:32,159 Unfortunately. Well, I mean twins, that's gonna be Uh, it's 15 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:37,959 gonna be fun. Yeah, I have I have a younger brother and sister. 16 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,640 They're twins, so I can kind of relate. I was uh, 17 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:44,040 I was much older at the time when they were born, and I was 18 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,000 like a babysitter for them. So I'm kind of like maybe their their uncle 19 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,599 or whatever to them. It's kind of a little bit weird, but still, 20 00:01:51,799 --> 00:01:55,120 you know, I can relate. Yeah, I know that twin bond 21 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,840 is a special one. So I'm looking forward to it. I wish I 22 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,200 could be there Cleveland, but I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be keeping up 23 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,959 with you guys and seeing all the things you guys are are doing out there. 24 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,159 Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be fun. I'm excited. Uh. 25 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:09,439 I'm like Chris. I like the i X Center in Cleveland. It's 26 00:02:09,479 --> 00:02:14,159 it's big, it's expansive. Uh, it's very open. I like. 27 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,919 I like that. If you want to do anything else, I mean, 28 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,599 you've got to go damn into the bunker downstairs. They've got, you know, 29 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:22,400 whatever they're gonna have. They're gonna have the trade night stuff down there 30 00:02:22,439 --> 00:02:25,439 like that. So they did take away the ferris Wheel, though I don't 31 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:29,520 know if that's good or not. I love the Ferris Wheel. I can't 32 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,919 believe they've got more tables though, that that's true. There, they'll they'll 33 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,639 have more tables, So there you go. So it's more for us collectors 34 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,159 to enjoy as long as they kept the frog bar. Oh wow, we've 35 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:44,919 got looking at the chat real quick. We've got Gordon paying from Hawaii. 36 00:02:45,319 --> 00:02:49,000 Welcome man. That's that's super cool. And it's got to be super early 37 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,159 in Hawaii, so that's that's incredible. Oh look, we've got Mark Coyle, 38 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,759 Hey Mark, and uh, we've got Able in Vegas. Good morning, 39 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,479 So good morning everybody. We're glad that you guys are here. Real 40 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,759 quick, we've got uh. This week, we had one of the birthday 41 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:08,000 of h I guess it was Drew's birthday, wasn't it Drew Herndon's birthday? 42 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:14,280 And we want to we definitely want to wish uh wish him a happy birthday. 43 00:03:14,319 --> 00:03:16,319 And I've got something I want to show real quick. So, uh, 44 00:03:16,599 --> 00:03:23,479 happy birthday, Drew. He kind of reminds that guy on the Wendy's 45 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:28,000 commercial kind of reminds me of Drew. So happy birthday, Drew. I 46 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:31,439 hope you're getting some residual income from the Wendy's commercial. Happy birthday. So 47 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,439 we got a lot to talk about today. The very first thing that I 48 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,719 want to talk about is. I'd like to bring somebody on. It's gonna 49 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:42,199 be Eric Hecker, and let's go ahead and bring him on real quick. 50 00:03:42,199 --> 00:03:44,520 I'm gonna add him to the stage. Hey, Eric, how are you 51 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,479 doing, buddy? Hey, guys, good good, everybody doing all right? 52 00:03:47,879 --> 00:03:52,919 So Eric he he does the Rack of the Day, which for those 53 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,479 I think most of everybody knows what a RAQ is in the hobby now it's 54 00:03:54,479 --> 00:03:59,520 a random act of kindness. Eric does a Rack of the day and he 55 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:04,680 also does ripping for the Cure. So Eric, won't you start out and 56 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:09,360 talk about what what Rack of the Day is and what you're doing, what 57 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,039 your plans are for the National, those kind of things. Yeah, and 58 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,159 you know, we're in our fourth year of Rack of the Day. We 59 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:17,920 haven't missed the day since January one, twenty twenty one, of recognizing good 60 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:21,600 folks in the hobby doing good things and supplying them with you know, a 61 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:29,439 small, you know, small gesture of appreciation. But we we really just 62 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:33,759 want to inspire folks to continue doing those good things. And it carries over 63 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,439 into the National, which just we my third year going to the National this 64 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,079 year, and it's a bit of a unique year. So what what I 65 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,439 do is and logan I think you received one last years. I have these 66 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,040 silver packs that I walk around. It's my sole purpose of being there, 67 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,839 and I hand these packs out and at minimum there are three cards in each 68 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,680 pack. There are going to be numbered hatch cards, auto cards, and 69 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,839 then there's other hits that are included to which could be graded cards, and 70 00:05:02,879 --> 00:05:10,920 then there's redemptions for memorabilia and other things that I will keep secret. You 71 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,839 have to find me at the National this year to kind of figure that out. 72 00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:15,680 But it's just a great way to build community, talk to people, 73 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,319 get to know them a little bit more, you know, from a hobby 74 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,959 perspective, but also from a human inside. And you know, it's really 75 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,560 great because you know, you see trades happen right away, you see other 76 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:30,279 racks happening right away with these things, and you know it's it's it's just 77 00:05:30,319 --> 00:05:33,360 a fun time. And I mentioned this year it's a bit of a unique 78 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:42,160 year because I'm only going to be there Saturday Day and Sundayday this year for 79 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,519 the National And the goal is two hundred and fifty packs. That year we 80 00:05:45,519 --> 00:05:47,279 did one hundred and fifty. This year, the goal is to fifty and 81 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:53,519 how I've got it allocated is I've actually partnered with five other folks that are 82 00:05:53,600 --> 00:06:00,879 going to the National for a full week and just excited to come and hang 83 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,600 out with everybody. Well, two hundred and fifty random acts of kindness, 84 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,279 that's a that's a lofty go. You're definitely going to need some help with 85 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:15,040 that, for sure, it is. And you know, I originally was 86 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:16,600 going to do two hundred, one hundred and fifty for the folks that are 87 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,000 helping me, and then fifty for myself for the weekend. But you know 88 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,399 what I do is I just put a call out to folks of I need 89 00:06:24,439 --> 00:06:27,000 cards, you know, because I got to build these packs. And you 90 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,959 know, at no point did I ever say that I wanted them donated. 91 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,319 I'm always willing to pay for things, you know, because I mean, 92 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,759 that's part of this hobby is there's transactions that happen, and I want to 93 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:41,600 help folks out in that way if I can. But a lot of people 94 00:06:41,639 --> 00:06:45,000 stepped up and just donated stuff for me this year, so it really was 95 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,480 able to expand, and I wanted to push myself because of the generosity of 96 00:06:48,519 --> 00:06:51,920 others, you know, just kind of keep keep that flywheel going forward. 97 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,759 Yeah, we hear a lot of you know, negativity in the hobby, 98 00:06:56,759 --> 00:07:00,480 and it's really good to see, you know, something positive happening in the 99 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,839 hobby. Uh. I know, personally, when the pandemic started, we 100 00:07:04,879 --> 00:07:09,240 started seeing a lot more you know, i'd say, like hobby greed, 101 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,600 things like that going on. It was just to me, it was terrible. 102 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:15,240 You know. I used to think, honestly, and this may not 103 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:18,519 be a popular opinion, but I used to think that hot wheel collectors were 104 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,920 not the best collectors in the world, you know, and then the pandemic 105 00:07:21,959 --> 00:07:25,879 happened, and I started seeing all these bad things in the hobby, and 106 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,519 then I changed my mind. I thought, well, golly, sports car 107 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,240 collectors or they're not They're not some of the best collectors anymore either. But 108 00:07:32,279 --> 00:07:35,519 then, you know, I saw you, and I see others doing random 109 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:39,759 acts of kindness out there, and it really makes me feel good. And 110 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,839 you know, I and I'm certainly not trying to boast what I do, 111 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,319 but I do send out things to people and things like that because I try 112 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,360 to pass it on you people pass it to me, and I think that's 113 00:07:48,399 --> 00:07:51,560 part of it, is to pass it on to others and do things like 114 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,639 that. Yeah, it was certainly. And I mean the negativity you speak 115 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:03,000 of is where the they was born of so and that way. So definitely 116 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,879 agree with you on that. You got something who race you No, I 117 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,160 was just gonna say, you know, I think, Eric, you're going 118 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,839 to be giving out basically a thousand cards, right, and uh, most 119 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:15,920 people go to the National to pick up some stuff and to add to the 120 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,279 collections, and you're there to do the exact opposite. You know, you're 121 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:20,720 there to give away stuff. So I just I just think that's that's fascinated. 122 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,040 I was staying Logan. I don't know how you do it. I 123 00:08:22,079 --> 00:08:24,000 don't know how you have the energy for it, you know, I don't 124 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,879 know how you you know, it's awesome how you get the resources and the 125 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:31,439 people to rally around you, and uh, it really is just just a 126 00:08:31,439 --> 00:08:33,360 good thing, man. I think, you know, it's something that the 127 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:37,759 hobby can definitely rally around and and and and you know, appreciate what you're 128 00:08:37,759 --> 00:08:39,720 doing, especially at the National. You know, that's such a big stage, 129 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:43,120 such a good place for people to see what you're doing and and kind 130 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:46,240 of you know, enjoy the spirit of collecting together, right, the enjoy 131 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,200 the spirit of giving together and collecting together. I think that's that's a that's 132 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,240 amazing. So I wish I could be there, man, But I know 133 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:56,879 you, I know I've I've sent you well wishes. I know you're gonna 134 00:08:56,879 --> 00:09:01,200 do awesome over there, and you always get great feedback. So thank you, 135 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:05,159 and thank you for being a part of the crew that helped build these 136 00:09:05,159 --> 00:09:07,960 packs too by sending me some things my pleasure. Yeah, absolutely, so, 137 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,960 Eric, is there still time for people to send you things? Are 138 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,879 you still building packs? I mean, where are you in that process? 139 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,440 Yeah? So's it's kind of a quick turnaround right now. So my hard 140 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:26,200 deadline to have cards be included in these packs is is July thirteenth, so 141 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,480 a week from today. Reason being is, like I said, I have 142 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,320 to ship thirty packs to five different people before I leave for a vacation the 143 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,759 following week. So quick turnaround and everything. But I'm pretty set at this 144 00:09:37,879 --> 00:09:45,639 point too with everything that I need, you know, So I hate turning 145 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,159 things down, but I don't need anything at this point, but always happy 146 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:54,679 to accept and still include different things for either these national racks or anything moving 147 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,720 forward as well. That's good. I'm glad to see a lot of people 148 00:09:56,759 --> 00:10:00,200 have stepped up and help. That makes me. That makes me feel good. 149 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,600 I like that. Yeah, so it's been fun. So along with 150 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:09,440 the reck of the day, you also do something else called ripping for the 151 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,279 Cure. So would you like to kind of expand on that let people know 152 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:18,519 exactly what that is? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So Ripping for the 153 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,480 Cure again was born out of out of the pandemic. My full time job 154 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,559 is actually as a fundraiser for the Crohn's and Colitis Foundation. I am the 155 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:31,279 executive director for a chapter here in Pittsburgh. And you know, at that 156 00:10:31,399 --> 00:10:35,720 point when the pandemic hit, we weren't entirely sure how we were going to 157 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,879 fundraise and where the money was going to come in for research because these diseases 158 00:10:39,919 --> 00:10:41,840 there's no cure. And I had just gotten back into the hobby at that 159 00:10:41,879 --> 00:10:48,159 point and threw it out there do a group of breakers that I was I 160 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,120 was getting to know and said would love to raise five thousand dollars in twenty 161 00:10:52,159 --> 00:10:56,960 twenty, and they accepted the challenge. In that first year we raised fifteen 162 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:01,559 thousand dollars and so now we're five years in and we just completed it in 163 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:07,000 May this past year, and we've now cumulatively raised over one hundred thousand dollars 164 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:11,320 for the Crones and Klitis Foundation. And then this is all done through donations 165 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:18,240 and it leads leads to a what deemed the Megabreak, and this year I 166 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:24,519 had one hundred and thirty seven items between signed memborabilia pieces and cards that were 167 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:31,399 the hits, and folks can get in various different ways through donations for as 168 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:37,159 little as five dollars, and it's just it's a really fun and exciting thing. 169 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:43,360 It got me so excited this year that I'm actually considering doing a second 170 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,759 one later in the year, for not just the Crones and Klitus Foundation, 171 00:11:46,879 --> 00:11:52,559 but for other various charities as well. I think this hobby has the potential 172 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:56,480 to really make a difference in other people's lives, and you know, that's 173 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,360 that's what I'm here to do, and I hope others will be willing to 174 00:12:01,399 --> 00:12:03,879 jump on board and you know, make this something a lot larger than than 175 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:11,320 anyone ever anticipated. Well, I know personally that crones and colidis are it's 176 00:12:11,639 --> 00:12:16,120 it's a very horrible disease. Like I was telling you, guys in the 177 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:20,559 green room. My very first wife on our honeymoon, Uh, she developed 178 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:26,159 colidis and we dealt with that for quite some time. And uh, trust 179 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,799 me, it's a pain, it's painful, it's it's horrific. I'm glad 180 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,320 to see the work that you guys are doing. You're definitely making a difference. 181 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,080 I know that there's been a lot of strides made in crones and colidis, 182 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,559 but there's still a lot of work to do for that. Yep, 183 00:12:39,919 --> 00:12:43,360 there is, there is, and we're we're making our mark on it. 184 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,360 Yeah, and I and I definitely appreciate that. That's that's a great, 185 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,559 great thing. So Horatio or Chris, you got any questions for Eric? 186 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,000 No, I'm just glad that you know, Eric, you're on the you 187 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,159 know you're on and and you know, any any chance that uh, you 188 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:07,159 know, we can spread down I'm sorry. Yeah, No, we're technical 189 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,960 difficulties this morning, but that's okay, that happens. No, just good 190 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,759 to have you on, Eric, and you know, looking forward to having 191 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:15,840 you on the rest of the show. And you know, again, anytime 192 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,200 that you know, any platform to share what you're doing, just even for 193 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,279 people to just say hi to you. You know, and to to meet 194 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,240 up with you at the National gump be there is a good So, Eric, 195 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,639 are you going to have a T shirt on it says, hey, 196 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:30,360 are you going to have any kind of way for people to identify you or 197 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,159 are they just going to have to know you by sight? How's that going 198 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,879 to work at the National? Yeah? So I do. I do have 199 00:13:35,919 --> 00:13:39,240 shirts that I wear has the hashtag reck of the Day on it. But 200 00:13:39,759 --> 00:13:43,120 really the thing is is people don't need to come up to me. I 201 00:13:43,759 --> 00:13:48,480 actually approach people. There's no method or madness behind this. You know. 202 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,919 I do kind of have a list of folks that I personally want to meet, 203 00:13:52,879 --> 00:13:58,759 but I don't I don't particularly say that I'm targeting families or kids. 204 00:13:58,799 --> 00:14:03,000 It's really people, you know. And I try to do it off of 205 00:14:03,039 --> 00:14:07,399 the main showroom floor because it's busy out there and I don't want to hold 206 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,759 people up, you know, from doing their things. So it might be 207 00:14:09,799 --> 00:14:13,360 out in the hallway, it might be on the outer edges of the showroom 208 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,399 and things like that. But again, it's just a it's a great time 209 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,039 to talk to folks and just again get to know who they are and what 210 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,720 their hobby goals are and different things like that. Yeah, I agree with 211 00:14:22,759 --> 00:14:26,360 that. There's a lot of interesting people in the hobby. There's a lot 212 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,000 of great collections out there, you know. I see I see so many 213 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,279 people collecting so many different things that I never thought about collecting in my life, 214 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:35,039 because you know, I'm just a I'm pretty much a racing and NASCAR 215 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,120 guy. I do dabble in some other stuff. But the reason I do 216 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,600 dabble on some of this other stuff is because I see these people collect this 217 00:14:41,639 --> 00:14:45,440 and going, Wow, that's h that's pretty neat. I do. Maybe 218 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,960 I'll to try collecting some of that. So, yeah, I'm with you. 219 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,639 Yeah, good stuff. All right, So let's let's move on, 220 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,879 I guess to some topics. The very first thing I want to talk about 221 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,679 is the Walmart market place. Uh that came out this this week. People 222 00:15:00,759 --> 00:15:05,879 were talking about the Walmart marketplace, Horasio. I'm want to start with you, 223 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,480 do we really need another marketplace? I mean, do we not have 224 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,000 enough already? Do you think we need more? What do you think? 225 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:16,679 I think I don't think we need a new one necessarily, but I welcome 226 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:22,279 it if they do it right. I'm looking at at Walmart's what they're doing 227 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,399 in their terms of service. I know they're doing a zero percent referral fee 228 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,600 for like the first ninety days, So the way I interpret that is you're 229 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:33,279 selling there for free basically, you know, no no fees for those first 230 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,840 ninety days. But then it seems like Walmart charges a standard fifteen percent, 231 00:15:39,159 --> 00:15:43,039 which is higher than even what eBay does, So I don't know how that's 232 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,360 going to work on in the long term. They do have for other items, 233 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:48,559 like other categories, they have like staggered referral fees, so like if 234 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,519 you sell an item for ten dollars or less, they charge you five percent. 235 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,440 If you sell an item for less than twenty five dollars, it's like 236 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,360 ten percent, and if it's more than that, then it's the fifteen percent. 237 00:15:58,679 --> 00:16:00,720 And I think that's that's interesting. I think they have an opportunity there 238 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:06,759 to really rival eBay, because I think eBay's main complaint are the high fees, 239 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:08,799 and so if Walmart can find a way to cut those fees, not 240 00:16:08,919 --> 00:16:12,519 this year, not two or three years from now, if they can kind 241 00:16:12,519 --> 00:16:17,639 of chip into that market share, they can definitely be onto something. So 242 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,639 there's potential there. I'm not eager to sell on on on Walmart right now, 243 00:16:21,679 --> 00:16:25,200 but it's interesting to see how it will develop. Chris, I want 244 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,759 to get back to the question that you asked before Logan. Does the hobby 245 00:16:29,879 --> 00:16:36,039 need another marketplace? Well, apparently somebody in Bentonville, Arkansas, I think 246 00:16:36,159 --> 00:16:41,799 so so here it is well collectors actually use it though, I mean, 247 00:16:42,639 --> 00:16:49,000 eBay is just so entrenched right now. They have all those network effects locked 248 00:16:49,039 --> 00:16:57,120 in. Network effects meaning everyone uses it because everybody else uses it. It 249 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:02,600 would be nice if there was another competitor to that. I know, Amazon 250 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,799 tried to make a big play into this marketplace maybe six or seven years ago, 251 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:14,319 and even they couldn't crack it. So and and the thing is what 252 00:17:14,519 --> 00:17:21,200 makes Walmart's marketplace different or better than any any other marketplace, I still don't 253 00:17:21,279 --> 00:17:25,200 know. I mean it seems to me that, you know, someone in 254 00:17:25,279 --> 00:17:30,039 Bentonville, Arkansas is trying to get in on this sportscard gravy train while it's 255 00:17:30,079 --> 00:17:37,039 still running. And I don't know, maybe this gravy train's kind of pulling 256 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,559 into the terminal. So that's what I think HEREK You got any thoughts on 257 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:48,319 that? I would yeah, I mean I would, I would agree with 258 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,680 what both christ and Ratio said. You know, but I my question is, 259 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,839 don't really need another one as well? You know, am I going 260 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,559 to use it? No? But but I'm also not you know, this 261 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,480 mega cel. But I did a little digging into this when I first saw 262 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,920 it, and I don't know if it's true or not. But was this 263 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:14,240 not announounced almost five days until the the PR was released? So I mean, 264 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:21,400 is this something that people were really going to use? I mean that 265 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,960 don't know if we need one, but if they can do it properly and 266 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,400 you know, run the business as they need it, you know, to 267 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,680 be successful, then more power to them. Well you know, you know, 268 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,079 Walmart is a big behemoth. Uh do you think that you know, 269 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,400 they and of course Amazon is as well. Do you think that you guys 270 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,759 think that you know, Walmart might have any cloud on maybe you know, 271 00:18:42,079 --> 00:18:45,680 getting you know, eBay to lower their fees. You know, you think 272 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:49,720 some healthy competition might help, you know, in lowering fees and things like 273 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,119 that. I mean, what do you guys think? I mean maybe, 274 00:18:52,960 --> 00:19:00,839 again, it all depends on if collectors actually use this. Yeah. Yeah, 275 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,480 I mean there's been and there's been you know, marketplaces that are community 276 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:10,359 driven, right, like a hobby driven, like my slabs district right, 277 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,400 a lot of sellers on district so, and they offer really low fees, 278 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,000 you know, the you know three four percent, which is low compared to 279 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,680 the ebays right now, right. The problem is that you just don't get 280 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,640 as many eyeballs on those marketplaces. I mean, eBay is unchallenged when it 281 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,839 comes to that. And I think that if there's a company that can challenge 282 00:19:29,839 --> 00:19:33,039 it would be one of these Amazons Walmarts if they do it right. But 283 00:19:33,559 --> 00:19:37,160 they just don't have the cachet. They don't have the brand appeal right as 284 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,400 a hobby, Like we we as a hobby, we stick to what we 285 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,000 know and kind of what we feel comfortable with. And so I don't know 286 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,160 that to me, when I think of Walmart, I think of you know, 287 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:51,240 bulky, bulky, lots of you know, twenty pack of paper towels. 288 00:19:51,279 --> 00:19:55,279 I don't think of selling my sports cards there. So they have this 289 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,400 image to kind of get over. But yeah, like I'm always for competition. 290 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,599 I think the more competition you have, the better it makes these other 291 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,640 places. I don't think we're better off as a as a hobby. As 292 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,759 a community with just one place to go to. And I think most people 293 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:11,440 would agree with that that could be wrong. I agree with you on that, 294 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,160 you know, Walmart. You know, when when I think of Walmart, 295 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,559 You're right, I think of going there and getting like I said, 296 00:20:18,599 --> 00:20:22,559 paper towels, right, I think about going there and getting getting me some 297 00:20:22,599 --> 00:20:26,400 a one steak sauce. I don't think about sports cards, and I don't 298 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,559 think about them as being a higher type brand. You know, that's you 299 00:20:30,559 --> 00:20:33,880 know that you know their focus is you know, going to be sports cars. 300 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,039 Their focus really is selling commodities, and you know, I guess, 301 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,039 I guess in a way, you know, sports cars are commodities. But 302 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,519 I just I just don't think. I just don't think Walmart is. I 303 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:48,400 don't. I don't see a lot of people using it. I mean, 304 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,799 I know I won't be using it. I have. You know, it's 305 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:55,599 hard enough for me to go to comm See and I stick with you a 306 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,200 pretty much, you know, and I love comm See. I just don't 307 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,720 think about going there on a daily basis. And like I said, you 308 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:07,359 know, Amazon really really tried, I would say, about seven or eight 309 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:14,119 years ago and couldn't crack this market. So if Amazon can't do it? 310 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,960 What makes us makes Walmart think they can do it? I mean, I'm 311 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,920 glad that they're trying, but I'm not sure collectors are going to want to 312 00:21:23,519 --> 00:21:27,319 abandon an eBay for this. Yeah. No, I definitely won't be abandoned 313 00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:30,359 an eBay for my buying. You know, I'm not a seller. You 314 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,480 know, I don't sell, so that's just not my thing. But you 315 00:21:34,519 --> 00:21:38,640 know, I guess Eric must have dropped off for a sec. But I'm 316 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,920 not a seller, so you know, in a way, this really doesn't 317 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,839 affect me at all. And I probably, I said, I probably will 318 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,920 not be using it at all. You know. I hate to say that 319 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,920 Walmart, but that's just kind of the way that it is. And I 320 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,440 think that I may be speaking for the majority of the hobby because it's just 321 00:21:56,839 --> 00:22:00,920 I think it's just a reputation that Walmart has people going go Walmart. I 322 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,160 mean, so, am I gonna buy slabs from you know, some kind 323 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,799 of FBN grading company, you know, fly by Night grading company? I 324 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:11,720 mean, is that what they're gonna have? I I don't know, we'll 325 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,119 see. Maybe they'll have some really nice stuff. It remains to be seen. 326 00:22:15,519 --> 00:22:18,359 But I just don't plan on going there. Yeah. Agree. So 327 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,319 one more thing about this, do you think, of course, you know 328 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,920 it's Walmart's a huge corporation. You think this is motivated by I'm sure it's 329 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:32,119 motivated by profit, and maybe I don't know, just it's it's motivated by 330 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,599 profit. Maybe you know, like you said, Chris trying to get in 331 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,559 on the sports card, gravy train. And every time I think about gravy 332 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:41,720 train, I think about that commercial they used to have for the Gravy Trained 333 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:47,039 dog food where the dog is chasing a little chuck wagon. So that's what 334 00:22:47,079 --> 00:22:49,559 I'm thinking about. Well, you said gravy train, But uh, I 335 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:52,799 think I think for sure you know that that's all they're just. I don't 336 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:56,640 know that they care about the hobby. I think I definitely know that they 337 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,319 care about making a profit. So, uh, we'll see where this exious, 338 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,319 I guess. All right, let's catch up on a few comments real 339 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,480 quick here. Let me go back and look and see some of these. 340 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:11,240 And Bob Boozle, he says, sorry Walmart. He loves Amazon. You 341 00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:15,599 know I love Amazon too, man. I can if I need supplies or 342 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,519 something like that for for my cards, I can usually have that stuff a 343 00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:22,799 lot of times. The very next day it's it's amazing how quick I can 344 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:25,039 get this stuff and I don't have to go anywhere to do anything with it. 345 00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:30,880 Let's see here, right, But all right, so I guess let's 346 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,839 go ahead and let's let's move on to another topic real quick. Let me 347 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,480 check all my things here, all right. So this week a bunch of 348 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,119 pictures popped up on social media. There's a p s A vending machine in 349 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,599 Las Vegas, and here's a picture of it. Now, from what I 350 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,920 understand from our own Chris Carlin, this is not owned by PSA. This 351 00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:00,240 is a third party entity that owns this machine from what we're what we've been 352 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:03,880 told. But it does have a lot of PSA branding. It doesn't have 353 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,920 any third party entity branding on it whatsoever. So I just thought that to 354 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,480 be very odd. If I was PSA, I would have something pretty big 355 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,920 to say about that that part of it. So as far as vending machines, 356 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,920 then this is in a casino. I think this is in what is 357 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,640 the casino. It's in the Plaza casino in Las Vegas. And I'm sure 358 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,440 there probably will will be more if this thing is you know, successful, 359 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,519 So I guess we'll see. So, Chris, you see this machine in 360 00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:40,160 Las Vegas? You walk up, Are you plopping fifty dollars in for a 361 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,519 Pokemon card or seventy five dollars from what I understand for a sports card? 362 00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:52,920 For answer that, how does one get a PSA vending machine? Do you 363 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,640 got to like vending machines? R us to get who thought this was a 364 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:03,960 good idea to make a vending machine that spits out grade at cards? Anyway? 365 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:14,920 I think it's apropos that this isn't a casino, because what's the what's 366 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,519 the first rule of Las Vegas? The house always wins? That is so 367 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:25,359 true. They don't have the big, opulent buildings for nothing. You plunk 368 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,960 seventy five dollars into a slot machine, you're probably only going to get about 369 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:36,039 seventy one of it back. Same thing with these grading machines you pluck, 370 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,400 you plunk seventy five bucks in, you're probably not going to get a seventy 371 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:48,880 five dollars card. I mean, I suppose they probably seated one card that 372 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:55,319 might be I don't know, a Jordan rookie that's in an off grade. 373 00:25:55,359 --> 00:26:00,359 That might might be worth more than seventy five dollars. But uh, I 374 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,559 think this is a pretty ingenious way for some whoever it is that put this 375 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:11,039 here to clear out some of their inventory. You know, over the last 376 00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:18,319 two three four years, especially during the pandemic, there were a lot of 377 00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:23,279 people submitting cards. I mean so much so that PSA actually had to tell 378 00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:29,400 people to stop submitting their cards in order to get to catch up on that. 379 00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:37,559 And a lot of cards came back months even years after they were submitted, 380 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:42,559 and by the time the submitter received their cards back, those players weren't 381 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:49,200 nearly as collectible and as valuable as they were when they were submitted. What 382 00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:52,839 are you going to do with those slabs? Put them in a vending machine. 383 00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:59,519 That's one way of getting rid of them. And I think this kind 384 00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:03,440 of a appeals to people, you know, who go to Las Vegas and 385 00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:07,519 throw their coins into a slot machine. You know, you never know if 386 00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:11,920 you're going to get the big hit. So that's what I have to say. 387 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:18,079 I think these machines, I don't think collectors like us are going to 388 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,759 be putting money into these things now. I think it's mostly non collectors that 389 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:29,160 are there for the thrill of maybe getting something good. I could be wrong, 390 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,200 though, Yeah. I saw some videos on YouTube where some people were 391 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,720 plucking fifty dollars down to get some Pokemon cards and then they were going back 392 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,000 out and getting comps on them, you know, immediately, and they were 393 00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:45,880 like anywhere from twenty five to thirty dollars cards. They were coming out to 394 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,960 fifty bucks, that's and they were PSA tens, but you know they of 395 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,440 course they were very low ball PSA tens, PSA tens or dime a dozen 396 00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:57,200 nowadays. So Horatio, what do you think about a slot machine? Are 397 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,240 you going to pluck some some bucks down in that thing or swipe your credit 398 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,279 card or whatever? So I can't because even if I wanted to, I've 399 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:10,400 I've been on the the reddit forums and apparently this thing has been sold out 400 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,279 for a week. So it's it's been a it's been a big hit for 401 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:18,519 for where it's at. But I mean, this story is is kind of 402 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,799 it's it's wild. There there's been a video multiple a couple of videos from 403 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:29,039 a YouTuber Rattle Pokemon, talking about the relationship between p s A and and 404 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,640 the company that that that is operating that machine. I think it's uh Canon 405 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,200 Cannon Sports or can Cannon block something. But in any case, the people 406 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:44,319 operating that that vending machine, they're they're known and I'm not gonna get into 407 00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:48,359 details here. They're they're known scammers from the past. And uh, you 408 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,279 know, I like, like the serious scammers. Uh. And so now 409 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:56,319 it's interesting that they got permission or that they partnered with p s A to 410 00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:59,480 then be able to sell their their repacks. And they are the guys involved 411 00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:02,839 here have been doing repacks for years and the repacks we were awful to the 412 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,960 point where these guys were repacking trim cards and the FBI got involved in. 413 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:11,240 I should also mention the guys that Sports Card Radio had a huge show on 414 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:15,920 that yesterday the and and they they hit it right on, like they have 415 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:22,039 two major problems right Uh. The first one is why would you sully your 416 00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:27,000 brand uh with those guys, you know, Uh, why would you as 417 00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:30,640 a as PSA, this giant you know company has a pretty good reputation in 418 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,680 the hobby. You know, they kind of influenced the hobby in so many 419 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,799 ways. You're trying to distance yourself from them, but at the same time, 420 00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:41,839 like you've given them a lot of power on these vending machines, Like 421 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,079 it's PSA everywhere, everything's branded, you know, ps A, p s 422 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,839 A. And on top of that, like, how do you know what 423 00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:51,640 products they're putting in that vending machine? Like I know it's PSA ten slabs, 424 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,279 right, but like, how do you know given their history that those 425 00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:57,640 aren't trim cards in there? How do you know that they're offering uh, 426 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,960 you know, a halfway d loss? If I could say that, right, 427 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,799 like are they putting one dollar cards in there that are PSA tens or 428 00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:07,599 at least are they putting in like thirty dollars cards that are PSA tens? 429 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:14,839 Right? The whole partnership baffles me. And then the second thing is I 430 00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:17,920 would if I was PA, I would just scrap it. I know that 431 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,440 they have plans of having a vending machine at the National, but that was 432 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,720 more of a promotion. So like nobody's actually paying money to get the products 433 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,000 inside the manding machine, which is totally fine, right, Like I remember 434 00:30:27,119 --> 00:30:32,640 doing that in Atlantic City. Zero Cool had some vending machines with stranger things 435 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,000 and things like that, and it was cool. But this idea of you 436 00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:41,640 know, partnering with these particular people I think is weird. I think PSA 437 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,359 should distance themselves from them, and I think that this controversy ultimately will help 438 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,119 them out so that this stuff doesn't expand because people will buy it, by 439 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,599 the way, like they're it's already sold out, and people actually don't care 440 00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:56,960 about losing money, especially in a place like Vegas. So it's they've got 441 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,279 to decide like, are we going to you know, partner with them and 442 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,000 kind of just for money's sake, or are we going to say, you 443 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:06,640 know what, this isn't exactly right, this isn't what we want for our 444 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,400 brand. Let's make a new turns. Yeah, I totally, I totally 445 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,160 agree with you on that the PSA's branding is all over that there's no branding 446 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,079 whatsoever for this third party company. You know, if I was PSA, 447 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,759 I would take issue with that. You know, of course, you know 448 00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,640 you see me, I'm wearing the PSA hat, so you know, I 449 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,759 am, I guess doing some advertising for PSA here subliminally, but you know 450 00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:32,960 I would. I would have them take all that off. I mean, 451 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,079 it's predominant on there, and of course you know, I get it. 452 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,759 PSA is the number one third party authenticator in the world. I can see 453 00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:44,200 where that would be the ones that you would want to put in your machine 454 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,400 if you're going to have a vending machine. But if I were PSA, 455 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,119 I would have all that stuff taken down and you have it much smaller or 456 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:52,839 you know, I don't even know if they would approve it or not. 457 00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,200 I like I said, I don't know what their legal stance is on this, 458 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,319 but if it was me b PSA, I would have them definitely take 459 00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:06,759 that off that machine for sure. So looking at this machine, do you 460 00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:10,759 guys think this sends the wrong message to collectors horatio? You think that it's 461 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,480 like, Okay, I'm not gonna collect you know, it's it's like it's 462 00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:17,559 gam well in a way, it is gambling, you know. You know 463 00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:22,160 I'm a I'm a collector. Am I gonna take a gamble on this? 464 00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:24,559 No? I mean, what do you think I think looking at just looking 465 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:28,480 at the machine, I think it's deceiving, right, Like you have no 466 00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:30,480 idea what's in the machine? Like you have no idea what you could potentially 467 00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:35,440 hit the charge are that they have on the side of the the thing with 468 00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:39,279 the PSA ten that certain number has been deactivated apparently, like you can't so 469 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,079 we know that that is not in there, right, you can't get that 470 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,519 Charis Ard. They have a Michael Jordan PSA ten card. We know that 471 00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:50,119 that's not going to be in there either, Like it just doesn't make sense. 472 00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:53,200 There's only one bending machine, right, we know that in order to 473 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,119 make up the cost of putting in a clear Rookie Jordan, you know in 474 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,920 there PSA ten you're gonna need more or that you know you're gonna know tons 475 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,000 of people spending fifty and seventy five dollars to get your return, So that 476 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,759 car is not in there, So the marketing is deceiving. I don't think 477 00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:15,400 it's meant for season collectors, right, and I think it's made some traction 478 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:22,599 with Pokemon collectors. Everyone's excited to get their PSA tens and whatever, So 479 00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:25,000 it's more more or less there to kind of just be a bit of a 480 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,440 fad to be a souvenir. Hey, I went to Vegas, I picked 481 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,400 up these slabs. I don't think it should be taken seriously by by collectors 482 00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:36,839 and let's just call it what it is. And again that's why that's why 483 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,960 I'm kind of questioning PSA's what's the deal here, Like, how does this 484 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,079 help your brand? How does this help your company? Because we know that 485 00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:49,519 it's just it's just a slot machine, and what are you actually giving away? 486 00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:53,000 It's not clear. There's no there's no win here for PSA. So 487 00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:55,119 as a collector, I kind of look at it as like a silly thing, 488 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,440 and I look at it as something that could potentially harm the hobby down 489 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,000 the road. You know, when people are putting in fifty bucks, tventy 490 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,480 five bucks and getting ten fifteen dollars cards in return, especially when you're dealing 491 00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:08,280 with people that don't have a good track record. Chris, how do we 492 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:14,440 know what's actually in the machine? We don't. You know, you mentioned 493 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:20,360 that they have a Jordan Rookie on the side of the of the of the 494 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,920 machine. Is there like an odd sheet of like you know, your odds 495 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,920 of pulling the Jordan are like one in every two hundred, your odds of 496 00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:37,320 pulling a Wander Franco Rookie card or one in two or something like that. 497 00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:44,239 Obviously they're not going to have that, but that that might be nice to 498 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,599 know. It's a little bit of transparency as to what you could win. 499 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,480 And I use win because that's kind of what this is. It is a 500 00:34:53,519 --> 00:35:00,719 gamble. I have another thought, but I I'm sure it'll come back to 501 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:06,840 me. But but yeah, I mean, how do you know what's actually 502 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,760 what cards are in this machine that you could potentially get. I don't know. 503 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,960 It's a really bad version. It's a different version, I should say, 504 00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:20,920 of really bad repacks, repacts that don't show the odds, repacs that 505 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,679 don't tell you what's what's potentially in there. We don't know. Nobody knows 506 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,960 and and uh and that's the thing, like, but we do know that 507 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,159 it's not whatever it is that they're putting on the side of the machine, 508 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,920 right. Are people just buying these things just for the novelty though? You 509 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,480 know, I bought this slab at a machine in Vegas? Will be Is 510 00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:44,079 that one of the reasons why people are buying this stuff. It's it's very 511 00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:47,400 possible, you know, because you know, I'm sure the casual person walking 512 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,880 by sees this, they may know a little bit about PSA and they go, 513 00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:54,840 PSA, maybe I can hit something really really good because I know one 514 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,880 of the videos that I saw that was one of the very first things. 515 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,320 The guy said. I think he as a collector. He goes, oh, 516 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,559 I'm hoping I can hit something really big. It's like he's like putting 517 00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:07,920 his hands together. Oooh. You know. So that's so that's what people 518 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,280 are thinking, you know, that they're going to hit the big time. 519 00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:14,159 And you know, in a way, I guess that's kind of what's going 520 00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:16,119 on with breaks and things like that right now. You know, people buying 521 00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:20,559 the brakes, they hope they hit that big five figure card out of that 522 00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:23,280 break. You know. I don't know, it's it doesn't have it much 523 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:28,079 appeal to me at all. Like I said, I think it's just for 524 00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:30,400 casual people walking by. They go, huh, they just swapped their card 525 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:36,159 and plug down fifty seventy five bucks and they get something that's worth you know, 526 00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:39,559 thirty bucks, you know in there someone like that. I just don't 527 00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:44,480 see where that's a win for the hobby at all in my opinion. Just 528 00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:51,559 remember rule number one of Vegas. The house always wins. Yep, the 529 00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:55,559 household wins. So real quick shout out to Rex and sports card shops. 530 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,960 I know we're on the big screens there, so shout out Rex. Rex 531 00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:04,159 says that this I think this is a quote from PSA says we are working 532 00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:07,639 with a vendor in real time to adapt the look and feel of these machines 533 00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:15,119 to feature less prominent PSA branding, which they should because that's when everybody looks 534 00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,719 at this. I mean, I know when I first my very first glance 535 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,920 at this picture, when I saw when I saw the picture of the machine, 536 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,760 it's like PSA has a vending machine, really, you know, And 537 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,880 then you come to find out, no, it's not PSA. But that's 538 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,280 what you're going to think when you see that. So what do you guys? 539 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,000 You guys have me more thoughts on that. By looking at that, 540 00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:40,960 you would think that that it's PSA's machine, but it's it's not. So 541 00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,159 if if you actually had I mean, listen, people could people throw all 542 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,400 their money every day, right and and in the hobby, you know, 543 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,519 they join breaks, they do repacks, they do all this stuff. If 544 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,719 you actually have a list of the things that you can win and you actually 545 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,360 put and you have and you can actually win something, you know good, 546 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,480 like you can hit the jackpot, you know, that's fine. I mean, 547 00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:07,000 I guess, but there's so many questions around it, and and my 548 00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:12,280 question is less prominent PSA branding, like who proved that machine? Like did 549 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,400 PSA not know what it was gonna look like beforehand? And so that now 550 00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:16,760 now they're getting the blowback and now they're gonna be like, hey, whoa, 551 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,199 whoa, who'll take our names off of that? Right? Like, 552 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,039 it already seems like they're kind of backtracking and they shouldn't maybe just come out 553 00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:27,400 and say, you know what, we made a mistake. We're not gonna 554 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,800 we're not gonna follow through with this partnership or whatever. So those are my 555 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,800 final thoughts on that. I mean, it could be a legitimate thing where 556 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,280 you're still throwing all your money, but at least like you have a chance 557 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,039 to actually win something. But this does not even appear to be the case 558 00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:43,960 like that, This just seems to be not that at all. You know, 559 00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:46,760 not that I'm I'm cool with this machine at all, but I would 560 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,440 be I would feel a little bit more better about it, you know, 561 00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:54,119 like what you're saying, Horatio, if they would have something on there saying, 562 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,920 you know, even that even on the LCD display, here are the 563 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,760 things that you can hit, and here are the odds of how you you 564 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,360 know what what you know how you can hit these things. You know, 565 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,320 if I knew that information going in, I might be a little bit more 566 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,519 apt to maybe think about it. But you know, with it just being 567 00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:16,400 blind, not knowing what's in it, not knowing any odds, why would 568 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,239 you want to put any money into that? I just would not put any 569 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,320 money into it at all. Yeah, all right, so let's let's catch 570 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:28,400 up on a few comments real quick. Let's see here we are very handsome 571 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,320 on the big screen at the local Walmart. Thanks Mike. Let's see here, 572 00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:37,039 pay seventy dollars per sport and get thirty dollars card for a dealer to 573 00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:39,639 offer you sixty percent of comps. Yeah, that's a that's definitely a lose 574 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,239 lose situation right there. Better than a slot machine. Yeah, maybe a 575 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,039 little bit, and the kids win too, like the lotto. Yeah, 576 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,519 I don't see any of the proceeds of this machine going to to help. 577 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:59,880 No, don't go to senior citizens four dollars prescriptions like they do in Pennsylvane. 578 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:07,239 Dang it, education like kids here in Delaware. So so here's a 579 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,519 question. Would would you think differently if this machine was at cars HQ or 580 00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:15,480 a hobby shop versus a casino, the same rules apply for me. I 581 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,360 got to know what I have a chance of winning, if I'm even going 582 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,119 to even consider it. Because it's blind, you have no idea what you're 583 00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:27,159 going to get. You know, they have pictures of things on there. 584 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,719 You can put a picture of an honest wagoner in there. It doesn't matter 585 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,800 what pictures you put out there. That doesn't mean that's just all subliminal. 586 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,800 People go, oh, maybe I can get this Jordan card. Oh my 587 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,400 gosh, but that's it doesn't say that anyway, So no, no, 588 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,599 no thanks, I'm I'm out, so you can forget about that. See 589 00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:52,480 how this is how Georgia and cart vending machines have been a thing for a 590 00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:57,880 while. I remember the supermarket that I went to when I lived in New 591 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,320 Jersey. Right at the exit there is a vending machine that sold packs. 592 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:08,639 But at least you knew you were getting a pack of something. This you 593 00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:14,559 don't know, so a bit of a difference. Now, if this machine 594 00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:20,400 were at a hobby store, would there be much of a difference. I 595 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,440 don't think there would be much of a difference, would there not? For 596 00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:30,480 me? I mean, it's really no different than than buying a repack. 597 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,039 That's very true. You I know, my local hobby shop they have have 598 00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,280 these little boxes of cards that they sell for like two dollars. You know, 599 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:43,320 it's like maybe a fifty hundred count you know, by clan box of 600 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,039 cards. I mean, it's in a way, I guess it's maybe kind 601 00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:47,599 of the same thing, but at least you can see what you're going to 602 00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:52,199 be getting on the front and back. So who knows. So okay, 603 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,920 so let's let's move on, guys. The Olympics are coming and it's gonna 604 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,400 be here in a few weeks. I know. Okay, okay, hold 605 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,679 on, hold on, just hold on. The Olympics are almost here. 606 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,239 Does anybody out there collect Olympic cards? I have a few. There's a 607 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,480 there's some Olympians that I really love, especially some of the ones from my 608 00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:16,119 childhood. Horatio, does the Olympics interest you at all? Do you collect 609 00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:20,599 any Olympians or do you have a favorite Olympian? I don't. I don't 610 00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:22,480 purposely, you know, I don't go out and collect Olympics. I do 611 00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:27,760 have some Olympic cards, but I will say Bob Beamon, he used to 612 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,159 hold the world record for the long jump for twenty some years before Mike Pole 613 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,719 broke it. He came and visited my school, my elementary school. I 614 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,480 was maybe like in fourth grade, and he gave out some of his some 615 00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:40,800 cars, some trading cards, some USA Olympic cards, and those were some 616 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,079 of the first cards I ever collected, and that actually kind of spurred my 617 00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:49,880 my love for cards a little bit. Was a Bob Beamon USA Olympic card. 618 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,519 I don't even know what it looks like. So I have fun memories 619 00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:54,039 of that of him visiting the school and I was like, wow, the 620 00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:57,239 guy he won a gold medal. It was like it was a big deal 621 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,440 to me. One one of them that I have, i've year ago. 622 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:05,239 I bought a lot of these German cards Reemsville, and so I have a 623 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,960 Jesse Owens nineteen thirty six card of his. I had a whole bunch of 624 00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:13,679 Jesse Owens cards. I sold off a bunch because it just made sense to 625 00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:19,519 and then I have a karch KARII and if anybody's into volleyball, he's I 626 00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:22,920 have his rookie card from a nineteen eighty eight foot locker set that was given 627 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,880 to me by a reader because I connected him with a Chase card that he 628 00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:31,400 was looking for for a long time, and so as a talking of appreciations, 629 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,079 I got to give you something. He sent me a karch Karai rookie 630 00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:37,760 card. Who if anybody doesn't know who that is, he's considered the greatest 631 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,840 volleyball player in the world of all time. So he's he's won gold medals 632 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,199 at the Olympics and indoor volleyball and at beach volleyball. So that's the extent 633 00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:50,079 of my Olympics. I followed it. I'm looking forward to it, and 634 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,440 I will always remember Bob Beaman visiting my school. Well for me, I'll 635 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,559 say this real quick. I always liked Mark Spitz when I was a kid. 636 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,079 I think he was also one of the most the original village people right 637 00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:07,920 there, but uh, he was my guy back when I was a kid. 638 00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:10,400 I like Mark Spitz. So I have Mark Spitz, I've got I've 639 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:15,639 got several other Olympians, uh that I collect. I've got some Jesse Owen's 640 00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:17,480 cards things like that. So you know, I do like the Olympics. 641 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,480 I will watch the Olympics and it'll probably spur me on to buy a card 642 00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:28,079 or two. I love the Olympics. I mean, I don't know what 643 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,519 it is, but if it if it's the Olympics, I will watch sports 644 00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:37,639 that I would normally not watch just because it's the Olympics. It's like I 645 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:45,280 will watch gymnastics because it's in the Olympics. I would not ordinarily watch gymnastics 646 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,800 if it's not. Uh, you know, all of these exotic sports that 647 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,800 you only get to see once every four years. Even now with all the 648 00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,840 all these cable those channels and streaming channels, I mean, you would think 649 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:07,159 that there would be one channel where I can watch you know, modern pentathlon 650 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:13,880 anytime I want, or trap shooting anytime I want. But no, I 651 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,360 mean, these are the sports that you only get to see once every four 652 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,159 years. I love it. But the thing is, when it comes to 653 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:27,599 cards, you only get card sets once every four years. So it's kind 654 00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:34,639 of if you're a card collector, kind of hard to collect because there's not 655 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,679 really a whole much at least mainstream cards out there. I mean, there's 656 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:44,039 there are a lot of Olympic pin collectors out there. That's a big thing 657 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:51,920 pin collecting. I remember, I think it was the twenty twelve national it 658 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,039 was in now I wasn't in Baltimore. But anyway, it was about a 659 00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:01,280 dozen or so years ago at the National when it was in Rosemont, and 660 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:08,920 they basically turned over what's now the Breaker Pavilion part of that hall, and 661 00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:16,519 for one or two years they had Olympic collectors there exclusively and really wasn't that 662 00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:22,920 much of a success. But I which is why it's probably hasn't been back. 663 00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:28,039 But I was amazed at a lot of just the pins that those folks 664 00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:37,400 had. And but as far as my collecting of the Olympics, I really 665 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,840 don't collect much as far as the Olympics goes. Now, well, like 666 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,239 you, Chris, I enjoy watching the Olympics. There's, like you said, 667 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,480 there's sports that I get to see only every four years because it's not 668 00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:53,199 even covered on a mainstream channel or a streaming channel or any kind of channel 669 00:46:53,239 --> 00:47:00,000 whatsoever. So I do enjoy that. I enjoy rooting for USA. US 670 00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:04,280 say, I want to see the United States do well, so I'm always 671 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,159 always up for that. So it's it's a fun time for me and I. 672 00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:12,079 Plus right now we've got the Tour de France going on and the Olympics 673 00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:15,360 going to be in Paris, that France has got a lot of things going 674 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,679 on right now. So looking at some of these comments, I like, 675 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,079 Bob Boozle is hot dog eating and Olympic sport yet, well, Joey Chess, 676 00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:28,960 Now I believe it will be in Los Angeles. It'll be a demonstration 677 00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:36,559 sport. Oh well, that would be amazing, still be amazing though it's 678 00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:43,199 a sport. There was one question about why Leonel Messi isn't in the Olympics. 679 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,920 Well, because he's playing in Copa America. You would know. Yeah. 680 00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:52,280 And the thing is, at least in the men's competition, soccer is 681 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:57,119 an under twenty three tournament, but you're allowed like I think two or three 682 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:02,800 overage players, and I don't think they wanted a Messy to play in two 683 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,920 tournaments in the same year, so that'd be a lot more important one. 684 00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:13,239 And I think he already has an Olympic gold medal so for when he was 685 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,119 and under twenty three. So oh wow, Okay, see I did not 686 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,559 I did not know that. I think, let me look that up. 687 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,960 Okay, Chris has the technology, so we're starting to get get close towards 688 00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:29,599 the end. You got anything else you want to say, Horatio, No, 689 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,840 just I think that the as far as the Olympics go, it takes 690 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:37,079 a few years. So like for rookie card collectors of goats, So like 691 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:40,360 I know, like Michael Phelps cards, rookie cards have value. Uh someone 692 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:45,159 mentioned Simone Biles, she's a goat. I think her rookie card. So 693 00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:49,599 it really takes you know, you'll see an athlete kind of breakout in a 694 00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:52,960 certain games, and then over time you might see them do more things. 695 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,480 But this is where they create their legends. This is where collectors really can 696 00:48:55,599 --> 00:49:00,159 kind of capitalize on someone that that's really like a generational talent. And you 697 00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:04,480 know what I mean by generation, I mean like Michael Phelps kind of talent 698 00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:08,360 who after Mark Spitz, the only comparable guy was, uh Mark Michael Phelps. 699 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,599 So there's some value there. But I don't think sets and you know, 700 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,519 and and Olympic cards like that don't generally hold their value unless you're talking 701 00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:20,960 about again the ghosts. Yeah, I would agree with that, but you 702 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,039 know, I collect them just for fun, you know, because I know, 703 00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:27,239 I know they're not going to have much value, but for me, 704 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,519 you know, it brings back a memory of watching them you compete when when 705 00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:35,599 they're gold medal or when do whatever it is that they did in the Olympics. 706 00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:37,280 So you know, I do like that aspect of it as well. 707 00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:42,880 So so real quick, one more thing I want to talk about before we 708 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,119 go is you know I mentioned it while ago is the Tour de France. 709 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:52,119 I know there's probably not a lot of people that really are into the Tour 710 00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:55,159 de France. I don't know if you're watching any of you guys out there 711 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,559 watching it or not. I am watching it. Unfortunately most of it's on 712 00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:02,480 peac now, which I don't like that aspect of it because now I have 713 00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:08,679 to subscribe to another, yet another streaming service to watch something that I really 714 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:15,599 like. Do you guys have any inkling of you know, you care at 715 00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:17,719 all about the Tour de France. You watch any of it? Have you 716 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,000 you follow anything about it? I'm gonna say one thing, yes I have. 717 00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:25,079 I've been a big fan of Twitter France for for a few years now. 718 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,480 Do do yourself a favor if you have time, watch the Netflix series 719 00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:35,119 Unchained, where they profile last year's Tour de France and you really see how 720 00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:38,639 these guys suffered. Mark Cavendish, he has his own uh uh documentary on 721 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:44,320 Netflix, and it's fascinating, Uh, the suffering, the pain that these 722 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,119 guys go through, how competitive they are, how cut through the sport is 723 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,599 in the same way that you know, these other document sports documentaries have kind 724 00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:54,199 of shown you that behind the scenes. It really paints a vivid picture of 725 00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:59,960 the Tour de France. This this Netflix series, I highly recommend it if 726 00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:04,119 you're just a sports fan and you kind of understand why the Tour de France 727 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,800 is considered one of the great sporting events of the world. Yeah, you're 728 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,280 right about the suffering and things that go on. You you know, I'm 729 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:16,400 a cyclist, so we say that it always hurts. You're you're you're just 730 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,280 you're gonna go faster, but it's always still gonna hurt no matter no matter 731 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,559 what you do. I mean, you just you're just gonna go faster, 732 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,440 but you're always gonna suffer no matter what, because especially this time of year. 733 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,639 But but one of the reasons I wanted to bring this up was that 734 00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:36,039 just a few days ago, in stage five, Mark Cavendish beat the all 735 00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:39,800 time record held by Eddie Murks of most stage wins and the Tour de France, 736 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,480 and he now has thirty five stage wins and uh, I've got a 737 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,719 card right here. I'll show you guys real quick of Mark Cavendish. But 738 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,400 he he now owns the record outright. He was tied. I didn't think 739 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,880 it would get broken. I was surprised to see Cavendish come back this year 740 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,960 and I was elated to see him get get a stage win. So now 741 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,159 now he owns the record outright. Because your cards looking these are my cards? 742 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,679 Yeah? Nice? Nice, Yeah, I collect I do collect cyclist. 743 00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:10,280 I've got Eddie, I collect Eddie Murks, I collect Mark Cavendish, 744 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:15,840 Peter Sagan, Lance Armstrong. I've actually ridden bikes with Lance Armstrong. I'm 745 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,039 not trying to boast, but it was fun. It was just it wasn't 746 00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:23,599 a competition. It was just riding bikes. But I know Lance has been 747 00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:28,239 through a lot, but he's gotten a lot of negative press. But you 748 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,159 know, I've met him. He's a nice guy, very you know. 749 00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:35,159 I think actually he signed at the National few years ago and I got to 750 00:52:35,159 --> 00:52:38,559 meet him there as well. But I do enjoy the Tour de France. 751 00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:40,320 I don't know any of you guys, like I said, out there, 752 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,920 are collecting Tour de France cards. But it's fun, believe it or not 753 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,800 that Eddie Murks cards, especially his rookie card from nineteen sixty six, they 754 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,039 hold some value, so you know, it's something you might want to look 755 00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:57,199 into. All right. So we're getting like close to the end. We're 756 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,360 like about thirty seconds from being an hour into this show. So you guys 757 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,239 want to give out any social information about where that people can find you, 758 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,039 what you're doing right now, anything like that. I'll start with you, 759 00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:13,239 Horatio, No, you know I was. I'll be. I'll be kind 760 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,559 of a low key for a couple of weeks. Hopefully I get to come 761 00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:20,480 back on Hobby Hotline at the end of August. You know, I hope 762 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,639 everyone has a great time at the at the National, and I'll be I'll 763 00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:27,639 be looking forward to following along you know what goes on over there, Chris, 764 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,239 I know we're we're going to be doing our annual stage show at the 765 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:38,639 National Hobby Hotline Live. I think it might be Saturday of the National. 766 00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:43,639 I don't know if its time has been announced, but I'll be there for 767 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:49,800 all five days. I hope to run into a couple of you. Anyway. 768 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,960 You can follow me at still num Baseball, Cardpedia, Hobby News Daily, 769 00:53:55,679 --> 00:54:00,480 and keep on rocket in the free world, folks. Cool man, 770 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,639 so real quick for Eric, Eric hid who he had to leave. He 771 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,320 was having some severe internet connections connectivity issues. So you can follow Eric. 772 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:15,400 I think he's es Hecker on Twitter. I'm not sure where else he's at, 773 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,639 but I do know since I do follow him on Twitter, that's where 774 00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:22,840 he's at. And also hashtag ripping for the cure. So if you want 775 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:27,920 to give any money towards the crones and coliitis, that would be really really 776 00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:30,679 nice. You can find me at the National this year. I'll be there. 777 00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:35,519 Stop stop me, let's talk, man. I love to talk about 778 00:54:35,519 --> 00:54:38,760 the hobby. It's my favorite thing in the world. It's it's I've been 779 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:43,320 doing it since I was a little kid. So stop me. I've got 780 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,559 stickers for NASCAR Radio. I'm on NASCAR Radio with val Mars and uh we 781 00:54:47,639 --> 00:54:51,000 just we just look forward to the National. I look and we all look 782 00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:53,760 forward to seeing all of you there. So I here's something in the background. 783 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:59,079 I don't know what that was. Kid. Oh hey kids. So 784 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:04,400 also, Horatio, good luck with the birth of your twins. We'll be 785 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,559 thinking about you. And we'll definitely be praying for you guys, and I 786 00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:12,119 know you're gonna have fun. I appreciate that logan, Thank you very much. 787 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,920 All Right, So next week we'll have three new hosts on Hobby Hotline, 788 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,320 so check it out. We will be on their same bat time, 789 00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:25,159 same bat channel. Right now, I'm looking for my outro, so from 790 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,280 everybody here at Hobby Hotline, we will see you folks next week