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I don't want to hear it any
more. Small talk off that short period.

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Take a long walk. My style
ain't free because it ain't off top.

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I match, you'll throw cokeit the
cock drop. I don't want to

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hear it any more. Small talk
off that short period. Take a long

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walk. My style ain't free because
it ain't off top. I'm match,

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you'll throw cokeitta, coock drop?
Is cush? Let me too much in

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your brain? Turn the mush for
fun on your toush. You couldn't handled

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a product. I fell shot because
I'm just used to it. I just

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do it like Nike swish, none
of that BENGI bush because I'm top shelf.

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I ain't got wealth, but I'm
on my grind like park Rails.

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I'd sell the shoes right off my
two feet and add one that's a yard

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sale. Got dumb bars that'd be
hard at Dear Harvard, YO, take

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your pictures elsewhere you want to be
TMZ. I want to be VIP with

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Panderin. I'm not answering because I
don't want to hear it any more.

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Small talk off that short period.
Take a long walk. My style ain't

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free because it ain't off top.
I Matt, you'll throw go kuitt a

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cock drop. I don't want to
hear any more. Small talk off.

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That short period took a long walk. My style aint free because it ain't

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off top. I Matt, you'll
throat go kitticock drops onto that bark and

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no bite shot that's off right now? Everyone could be the big dug,

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take a walk, kick rocks.
Can't kick me out because I picked locks.

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They hearing me knocking. I'll never
be stopping icky this ship pupping like

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lip glass, get me pissed off. And the host who went the red

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dots something like chippon Kimmy, y'll
what you got like it? Rushing me

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young, feeling like Tony Hawk never
saw that it rock better not to simball

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running up marathon and you are tarts
this month world. You a turists.

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Put the bullet you get in the
hornes. I'm a taurist. I don't

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want to hear it anymore. Small
talk off. That short period took a

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long walk while style a free because
it ain't off top. I'm not your

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throat coat kick the cock drop.
I don't want to hear it any more.

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Small talk off. That short period
took along walk while style a free

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because it ain't off top. I'm
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are the times vision. Hey everyone, good evening and welcome to another edition

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But we're here today talk about a few

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changes over in Titans Land is trying
to get on here multiple times last week,

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but I was under the weather and
couldn't get vertical long enough to do

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it. But here we are today, So Tyler, you want to say

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tight en up to everybody. Welcome
everyone, and welcome to the dawn of

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the Callahan era in Nashville, Tennessee. Absolutely, that's the first thing on

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the docket tonight. We got a
new head coach and it's actually the number

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one head coach that I was wanting
from the moment we fired Grabel. That's

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I said I want to Brian Callahan, and they went out there and got

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him. So kind of funny the
way that he ended up there because he

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was scheduled for interviews with the Panthers
the next day after us the Falcons the

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day after that, and his flight
got canceled due to weather coming to Nashville,

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So we was actually going to move
to the back of the line,

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and Amy ended up sending the Titans
private jet to go and get him to

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make sure we stayed first in line
and didn't let him out of the building

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without signing the contract. So he
was also the first head coach hired from

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outside the organization in this hiring cycle, So I feel like we had him

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as our number one guy. We
went out there and made things happen,

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make sure we got who we wanted
there. So you think we got the

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right guy, Was you looking at
someone else's head coach? Sure? I

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mean I definitely was vocal that I
wanted the offensive coordinator from from the Texans.

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He was my number one person.
I'm a little intrigued as to why

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no one hired him because he had
a bunch of requests, which leads me

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to believe that a lot of teams
just think that there were eight coaching openings

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this season, UH and all eight
none of the eight took him. Leads

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me to believe that they must think
that he needs a couple more years to

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cook in UH in Southern Texas before
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But Brian Callahan was my number two. I think We've been very vocal

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h between you and I about how
we wanted an offensive minded coach. So

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I'm I'm I'm excited for what the
future is going to hold, and I'm

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really liking the the hiring so far
for the team around him. It makes

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me optimistic about the future. It's
I think it is still very early to

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tell what the future is going to
look like under him, But I think

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that everyone should welcome him with open
arms because this is our team and why

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would you not want him to be
successful? Yeah? Absolutely, And I

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think Bobby Slowick was number one on
most Titans fans list, And the reason

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I didn't want him was, as
you said, he's a rookie offensive coordinator.

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I'd like to see him do it
more than one year before we hind

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the team over to him. Yeah, but I was seeing multiple reports on

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ESPN and NFL Network that he didn't
interview well that it didn't have to do

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with his resume or anything. It's
like he didn't instill that confidence in the

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gems that we're interviewing him. So
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he is a young offensive coordinator,
it may just take him a year or

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two to get that interview process down. Yeah, and number two on most

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of the offense. As far as
offensive coordinators interview him for the job.

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A lot of people wanted Ben Johnson, the Lions offensive coordinator, and everybody

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kind of gave up on him because
all the reports said he was the Commander's

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head coach, that as soon as
the lines exited, they were signing him,

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and then they end up waiting on
him, and then he decides to

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stay in Detroit, and so they
lose out on all of the head coaching

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hires and end up with Dan Quinn. Yeah. I mean, you could

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be aggressive like the Titans were,
or you can be conservative like the Commanders.

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We'll see any season in two how
it shakes out. Yeah, I

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agree. We got the seventh pick, they got the number two pick.

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We both have young quarterbacks, so
we're in similar situations and so we'll see

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if we had the right approach or
if they did. And we have the

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number one and number two most cap
space going into this offseason. Yeah,

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good point. We're within like three
million of each other in cup space.

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And let's help. Let's pull to
the football gods that we cut Dullard from

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our roster so that we get more
money. Oh yeah, I think as

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soon as the off season starts the
first day of the league year, he

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had to go. And that's six
and a half million dollars that gets outed

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her cap space. That would move
us up in the first place in cap

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space. And it's needed because he
did absolutely he did not help us.

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He hurt us. Yeah, in
every way possible. So but something that

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I do think is going to help
us is we also went out and got

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aggressive with their defensive coordinator higher.
We went out and got the Ravens defensive

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back coach at Dinard Wilson. So
just I was looking at his history as

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a coach and just to run down
some of the stuff he did. His

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first time as a DB's coach was
with the Rams. He produced the eighth

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fewest passing touchdowns allowed during that time, the fifth fewest yards per completion and

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the tenth best past defense. Now, let's also talk about how that Rams

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defense had two of the greatest defensive
players of all time and Jalen Ramsey,

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you know, was that the years
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Yeah, Aaron, I mean,
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Ramsey's first year, not on the
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Eagle, I mean with the Yeah, the Eagles before the Ravens though.

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Yeah, so, oh no,
it wasn't. The Rams was in twenty

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fourteen, he was a Ram How
long was he in LA three years?

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I don't see. He wouldn't have
had I don't think he would have had

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him. So that means that he
would have he would have at least had

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probably the number two greatest defensive player
of all time and Aaron Donald had Aaron

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Donalds. Yeah, it helps your
back in coverage when Aaron Donald's getting those

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sacks and pressures. Yeah, when
you have a guy that's getting double and

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triple teams by offensive linemen. From
there, he moved on to the Jets,

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where he allowed the ninth west yards
for completion, and from there he

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moved on to the Eagles, where
he had the number one pass defense and

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allowed the third lowest passer rating during
his year there or two years there,

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I'm sorry. And then last year
he was with the Ravens where they had

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the number six pass defense, the
third most intersections, and the lowest passer

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rating allowed. So everywhere he's went, he's had success. So that's been

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our weak spot, is that back
end coverage. So maybe he can spark

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some magic for us the way he
has everywhere else that he's been. Yeah,

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I think it's an A plus higher
personally. Ever since we lost Logan

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Ryan and that like era of three
really good starting defensive backs, the secondary

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for the Titans has always been kind
of below average ever since then. I

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mean, we had Kevin Byerd,
but really there was nobody else that was

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able to go out there and shut
down receivers when we were playing them.

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So I think it's an an A
plus higher for sure at the moment,

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because I think his resume speaks for
itself. I mean, he took Marlon

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Humphrey for the Ravens and you know, look at his production for them.

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Kyle Hamilton is in his second season
for the Ravens and he's an All Pro.

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So working with that and playing with
players that are such high caliber leaves

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a lot of optimism to look forward
to for this team, where for the

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past five, you know, three, four or five seasons or so,

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that has really been kind of one
of the the drags on this roster because

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how many years in a row have
we had a bottom five pass defense in

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the entire NFL. And so now
that now that we have him, and

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you know, he's getting to work
with a young Jeffrey Simmons who's in his

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prime, I'm excited to see what
he does. And I think it's necessary

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because we got to play c.
J. Stroud twice a year, we

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got to play Trevor Lawrence twice a
year. Those two have kind of proven

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their their worth already. The jury
is still out on Anthony Richardson, So

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he comes to this team at a
very dire time when we need to start

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really working on that secondary. Yeah, and you talked about him what he

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done when he had Donald getting those
pressures and stuff, and Aaron Donald has

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been vocal about Jeffrey Simmons being the
next in line behind him to the next

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great defensive tackle. So I mean
that's he's proven what he can do with

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those weapons. Yeah, but then
the one higher I think we've made that

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kind of leaves me scratching my head
is we hired for the wide receiver coach

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typ Tolbert, and so he comes
from his pedigree as the Panthers as a

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wide receiver coach, the Broncos as
a wide receiver coach, the JIH and

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then last year with the Bears.
I mean, none of these are teams

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that you look at and say,
wow, their past game is amazing.

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So I think that I've seen that
before we got on here. I think

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that the biggest reason there is because
they have a relationship between the two,

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between Callahan and him. So I
don't I'm not sure if it. I

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hope that it's, you know,
not going to be a major issue,

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but I mean, we'll see what
happens, uh. I mean, not

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everybody can have regu Wayne as a
wide receiver coach. Yeah. I don't

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think that it's a major deal because
Callahan's already said he's you know, he's

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the former QB coach, he's a
past game specialist, and he's calling his

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own plays, so he's going to
have the most say in the biggest thumb

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print on the past game, no
matter who the wide receiver coach is.

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And I also think that a lot
of that has to do with the fact

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that number one, you have to
have some sort of assistant. I think

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the rule in the NFL is that
it's an offensive assistant that's African American.

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So I'm not sure if maybe that
they did that to appease to that.

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Maybe they did that in hopes that
maybe down the line they want some compensatory

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picks in the third round if they
think that he has a shot of potentially

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moving up the ladder someday. Yeah. Absolutely, And that's something because you

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know when we hired ring Karth on
the forty nine ers, got two third

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round picks from that. Yeah,
and between him and also the defensive coordinator

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Wilson, either one of those get
hired by another team, then that's just

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going to bolster us with day two
pis. Yeah, it's it'll be good

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in the long run. Oh yeah, I agree. The The one big

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position left for us to feel is
the offensive coordinator, which we've had three

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interviews for. So the three interviews
are the Bucks quarterback coach Thad Lewis,

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the Dolphins assistant head coach Eric Strootsville. I think you say his last name.

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And the Jaguars pass game coordinator,
Nick Coles. Do you do any

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of those do anything for you?
Or do you think that we should be

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looking elsewhere you have another name in
mind. I think this is pretty simple

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in my opinion. Out of those
three, only one of them have had

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a game this season where they put
up seventy points in a game, and

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that's where I'm going to leave that. Yeah, and the Dolphins assistant head

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coach there Streetsville. He's been my
number one target for offensive coordinator from the

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beginning. And the reason why,
I've got a few reasons. First,

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he's the assistant head coach, so
clearly they've got a lot of confidence in

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him. They think highly of him. But he's also their running game coordinator,

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so he's got fingerprints on the offense
already. And so he's also the

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running backs coach, and we've got
a young running back, so he's going

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to need if he's going to take
over, he's going to need good coaching.

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And he's been their running back coach
since twenty seventeen, so it ain't

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you know, it ain't a new
hire or anything, or if he became

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their running backs coach he was the
Broncos running back coach who traditionally have a

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great running game. Yeah, and
they have gone all the way back into

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the eighties and nineties. But he
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changes there, and so every time
they would fire a head coach for eight

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years, the new head coach would
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keep this guy. So, I
mean, he's got a strong running pedigree,

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and we have Callahan as a past
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plays, and so I think it
would be a good balance to have a

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running offensive coordinator and who's also the
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team in the NFL. So he's
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he's gonna be able to look situationally
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and say run here, play action
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just strengthen the offense all the way
around. Well, I think at the

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very least something that we need to
talk about is how, all of a

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sudden, with with Callahan as our
head coach, these people want to come

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to Tennessee. They are choosing this
franchise where they over these other franchises that

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have that had a winning record this
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to the pedigree of what Ran and
what Brian Callahan want for this team right

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now and what they want for the
future and et cetera. And so that's

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why I have a lot of optimism
because these guys that are very in network

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with the big wigs in the NFL, with the owners, with you know,

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all the big names in the NFL, they see this guy and they

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want to come work for him.
Past off season where we weren't reading about

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people wanting to go to go to
the Texans to to be alongside with Demiko

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Ryans. People weren't choosing the Texans
franchise over all of these others. And

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I bring up Jamiko Ryans because I'm
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of the year. So there's a
lot to be excited for. There's obviously

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room for error, you know,
I don't for I'm not foreseeing us going

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to the super Bowl next year.
It would be nice. I would love

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it, but I don't foresee that
for us yet. But I I think

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we as Titans fans, we are
seeing what having a head coach where people

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want to coach with you and not
your friends, I think that we are

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setting ourselves up for a good few
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I didn't touch on with the defensive
coordinator hire Wilson. You know, when

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we hired him, he was the
dB coach for the Ravens. The Ravens

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defensive coordinator was hired as a head
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if once he got hired, within
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Wilson, and if the Ravens had
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we couldn't have hired him. So
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we had to make a quick decision, and the decision was to give him

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an offer. But in addition to
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they're saying two other teams had standing
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to turn down all three, the
Ravens and those other two mystery teams and

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said, I want to go coach
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not have happened last year with Braybow. I don't think. Yeah, well,

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and I think that there's a lot
to be said because I mean,

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you have Callahan, who was an
offensive coordinator in Cincinnati with a very high

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caliber offense. With you know the
likes of Jamar Chase and Mixon and Higgins

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and Burrow. You know, they're
gonna make a dB a coach really angry

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and really frustrated when you're having to
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I think my hope is is that
the two of them, in practices and

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when scheming plays things like that,
that they are going to be looking at

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okay, like that They're going to
challenge each other. Because if they go

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in it with that mindset, I
think that it could really benefit this team

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because that's not something we were getting
during the Vrabel era. We were just

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you're, oh, hey, you're
my friend, I go have some drinks

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with you at the bar. And
or we used to coach with each other,

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and uh and and and and tech
in Texas a couple of years ago.

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Why don't you come coach with me
here? So I'm excited to see

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that now Callahan hiring his dad.
I mean, I'm like, oh,

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maybe maybe this is presumptive. But
then when you read he's one of the

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greatest offensive line coaches in all of
NFL history, and we have an offensive

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line problem, you want the best
of the best, So yeah, I

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don't mind him. Hir and his
dad either, which that was the next

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thing on my list. They asked
him about it at his PRIs conference and

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he kind of gave a sideway smile
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can't talk about that. Well,
right before we come on here, in

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news breaks that we've officially requested an
interview with his dad now, and his

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dad's believed to already be on his
way to Nashville pretty much. I read

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something before we got on here that
the Browns requests accepted his request to leave

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the team. That would be I
didn't see that yet, but that would

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be major if they do except that
request, because that would mean that we

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don't have to promote him. We
could bring him on as the old line

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coach, because if they denied his
request to leave, then we would have

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to promote him to something like assistant
head coach or something. Yeah, I

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could have swore I've seen that they
accepted his as requests for release and like

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just running down his resume. Four
decades as a coach, three decades in

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the NFL. I mean, you
can't ask for a better pedigree than that

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to come onto your coaching staff.
He's been the head coach of multiple NFL

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teams, considered, like you said, one of the greatest in NFL history

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to do it. So, I
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I say do it. I mean
that's like saying that you would want to

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reject Bill Belichick as your defensive coordinator
exactly, which with Dan Quinn getting hired

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and Jerry Jones said that never say
never about Belichick coming to the Cowboys.

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So I mean, maybe he is
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I don't see that happening. Another
one of the greatest that ever do

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it to he's requesting to get an
interview with the Titans is Mike Munchick.

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Have you read anything about that?
Yeah, I've seen that. Did we

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request him or did he request us? No, he requested us. And

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so like his history, eight time
All Pro offensive lineman, nine time Pro

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Bowler, the nineteen eighties, NFL
All decadeen and his numbers retired in the

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Titans Ring of Honor, and he's
in the Texas Sports Hall of Fame for

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his time as an Oiler. So
he spent eleven years playing for us before

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we became the Titans. The day
that he retired, the very next week,

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he was hired on to coach the
offensive line. And he's spent over

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ten years during that three years as
the head coach of the Titans. So

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he's also considered one of the ten
or fifteen best offensive line coaches in NFL

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history. And so if we do
get Callahan and give him a promotion,

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bring munchat you got two with the
top fifteen or twenty ever to do it

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and coaching the line. As long
as they're seeing eye to eye in the

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way they're coaching, then I don't
see how we could go wrong bringing those

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two on calls. His thing was
he won. He spent so long making

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us an elite O line, So
he wants to come out of retirement and

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it would be like his legacy to
come back and rescue the O line again.

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How he rollic up him. I
mean that would be nice. I

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mean idealistically again, like that would
be nice if if, if that were

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to happen, I mean, at
the end of the day, I mean

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to speak, factually, we can
have the best coaches in the world,

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but you have to be able to
get the players. So well, we'll

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see what happens. I mean,
it's a possibility that we have four brand

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new starters on that offensive line in
this upcoming season. Yeah, yeah,

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I think we need at least three
brand new ones. I wouldn't mind if

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we keep, if we keep anyone, of course, we're keeping Scronsky,

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but keep runskilled at the right guard. But then both tackles and center.

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Definitely we have to replace. And
looking at Montek's bo here, he's sixty

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two, so he's ten years younger
than Bill Belichick, and we're talking about

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him looking for a job. So
I mean he's not too old to come

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back. I guess that's true.
I mean, we're all talking about multi

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millionaires, so they're they're sitting at
home in their mansions, twaddling their thumbs,

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trying to find things to do.
Yeah, exactly, that's what's his

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name, Frank, Right, He's
getting paid how many million from the Colts

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and from the Panthers right now,
and still looking for a third job.

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That dude's just sitting at home,
laughing all the way to the bank.

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CREP. Now, I mean he's
I want his job. I want to

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sit on my cops and make millions
of dollars a year. Yeah, exactly.

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He's coached what twelve games or thirteen
games the last two seasons, and

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he's getting paid until twenty twenty six
by both teams. Yeah, must be

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nice. You know what I could
do with all that money. I'd go

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on vacation every day. Yeah,
I won't be working, that's for sure.

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Yeah. So we talked a little
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I mean two guys that when they
got cut, everyone said they'll be

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hired within a week, and all
the hit coaching jobs are fueled their boat

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sitting on the sidelines for twenty twenty
four. You think that either of them,

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you think that's the I mean,
I think it's the end for Belichick.

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I mean, you're seventy two,
Like, take the opportunity or hire

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with some brace, just just go
off into the sunset. That Rabel,

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I think he would probably be back
next year. I think the reason why

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Belichick wasn't hired is I read all
the reports that said that he won in

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basically a lot of control in the
roster. He basically wanted the same thing

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with all the others, with all
these other teams that he was interviewing with

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that he had in New England,
and not everybody runs their system that way.

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I mean, if I've got a
six time Super Bowl champion coach,

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I mean, I'm going to listen
to what he has to say. I

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think I don't necessarily think it's a
bad idea for him to maybe take a

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season off, really like work on
some schemes and then when there are coaching

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positions available next year, which I'm
sure there will be, I could.

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I think I know a couple,
then he'll have somewhere to go. Yeah,

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I agree. I've really thought that
he had a decent shot at the

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Seahawks job with Rabel as his defensive
coordinator. But I read that his best

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shot was the Falcons. Yeah,
that he asked for everything from the Falcons.

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They said that he was wanting way
too much money plus full control of

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the team. Yeah, who do
you think? What teams do you think

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have coaching openings next year? That's
a good question. I wonder how patient

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the Jaguars are going to be after
this. Last year they were one loss

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from getting eliminated and then went on
the miracle run and barely make the playoffs,

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and then this year is just a
complete lit down from start to finish.

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Like, how patient are they going
to be knowing that they've got Trevor

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Lawrence and he ain't getting any younger? Fair Okay, other than that,

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I could see that the Giants making
a move. They've been like down for

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quite a while. Yeah, they
just had a coach last year when head

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Coach of the Year. I think
he still has another year or two.

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I think he still has at least
two years left in him abel to see

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in twenty twenty one. True,
I mean they the Giants have basically squandered

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Daniel Jones, like he's halfway through
his second contract at this point. I'm

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going to say something that's going to
shock a lot of people. I think

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the Pittsburgh Steelers are looking for a
new head coach after next season. See,

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they were talking, I mean they
were talking about it this year,

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but it depended on Tomlin wanting to
retire, and he decided he didn't want

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to. But he took a long
time to make that decision. And the

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the Cowboys, they they were very
very confident going into the off season.

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Either after that playoff Walls there was
talks about them moving on. So I

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mean they said, they're going to
give you one more year, but what

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happens next year? Who else?
But we have eight which is what twenty

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five percent of the NFL this year, So I mean every year you're going

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to get a few. That is
true. But speaking of this coming season

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and surprises, so we all Henry
said goodbye the end of the season and

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went out on the fifty yard line
and got on the PA system and thanked

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the fans. But then last week
he gets an interview and says that he

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thinks that the door is closed from
the Titans end, but it's not closed

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from his end, that he's still
open to coming back. And then Callahan

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says that he'll never turn down good
teams and Henry fits his system, that

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he's open to Henry coming back.
So is there is the door a little

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bit further open than what we thought
it was for Henry to retire a Titan

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With this one, I'm stuck because
Henry has been an advocate for higher running

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back pay for years now, and
we have seen the success that the Titans

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have had at the hands of Derrick
Henry. I mean, when you have

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someone who has the talent and ability
that Derrick Henry has, it's hard to

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not be successful. However, I
think that what he's going to want and

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what he's going to ask for,
he's not going to get in Ran because

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I think Ran. I think if
I am in Rand's mind, Okay,

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I just drafted a third round running
back who has showed some promise, and

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if I go out there and I
give him a little bit better of an

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offensive line than what I gave him
last year, he can potentially take over

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this team. I definitely don't want
to see Derrick Henry go because I just

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bought his jersey, you know,
not that long ago. But what I

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think it's going to come down to
is how much money is he asking for.

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He's only I mean, running back. Shelf lives are not very long

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in the National Football League. He's
got what maybe three two, three good

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years left in him before you know, we start to see grandfather time.

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Like I said, I think it
all comes down to the amount of money

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he wants. He was making what
fourteen million this year. Yeah, I

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think he's gonna want sixteen, and
I don't think RAN's gonna give it to

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him, and nor should he.
If he has for sixteen, then I

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don't think you can come close to
that. I see where I would be

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at with him would be like because, like you said, running Back,

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Shelf Life Saint Long, the traditional
mark is thirty years old you start declmbing,

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and he turned thirty on January seventh. I think it was so.

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I mean, unless you're Frank Gore
or Adrian Peterson, there ain't many yards

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to gain after you turn thirty.
Yeah, And I would be comfortable at

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like thirteen or fourteen million over two
years. Like I'm not getting close to

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the fourteen million he made this year. I'm looking at like a six to

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seven million dollar payday because you can't
take that. No, I don't think

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he will either, But he's not
going to get like we're paying fourteen million

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to get two hundred and fifty to
three hundred carries on the season. He's

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not going to get that next year. Like you said, with Spears taking

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as share of those carries, I
mean that the money goes down when the

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carries go down. Yeah, And
and Spears. He spoke up in an

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interview as well. He said that
that he would love to share carries with

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Henry again and that he's fully comfortable
with his role on the team. If

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they Henry goes, he's ready to
step up, but he would prefer for

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him read to stay in as have
a split back field. That's just more

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options for Will Levis. Yeah,
yeah, and for I think for Henry

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to stay. He's also going to
want to see us invest in the offensive

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line, even if we don't invest
in him. So looking at free agency,

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do you do you see anyone like
one or two free agents out there

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that you you think would help the
offense. Well, I was looking at

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the top twenty list of free agents
this season. I don't I think there

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was one offensive lineman that cracked the
top twenty and that was Tyrone Smith from

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the Cowboys. This is such a
heavy offensive line draft. I definitely don't

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think that we should go out and
get three rookies to start on off our

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offensive line. But I mean I
wouldn't be a post to Tyrant Smith.

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I mean again, anything's better than
Andre Dillard. He I would I would

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love to definitely see him the out
of everyone that's in the top twenty list.

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I would I would welcome all of
them with open arms, except for

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one, and that one is Michael
Thomas from the Tampa Bay Bucks. And

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it's not that I went and won
him on the team. It's just that

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I don't want the Titans to become
the retirement home for wide receivers like what

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the Indianapolis Colts franchises come for retirement
homes for quarterbacks. I don't want to

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thirty plus year old wide receivers on
our roster starting at number one and number

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two, unless we were to trade
d hob to get more money in cap

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space and to get maybe an additional
pick or two on Day two or three.

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That's the only one I personally would
not want. I know a lot

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of people in the Titans nation are
wanting T Higgins because I think he's the

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top wide receiver projected to go into
free agency this year, and a lot

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of people see the connection because of
Brian Callahan. Brian Callahan was his offensive

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coordinator. However, the issue is
is the Browns are really hardcore trying to

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get him is the other issue.
And do I want Will Levis who really

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hasn't shown his full potential or do
I want to go to a really good

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team, a really good roster in
the Browns who have Deshaun Watson who's one

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massage away from going away for a
while. Yeah, and I like everybody

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wants T Higgins and I would love
to get T Higgins. I don't think

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he's gonna be a free agent though, because the Bengals are top five in

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cat space as well, and that
they can extend Chase this year, but

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that money don't hit till twenty five, so they could afford the franchise tag

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T Higgins and keep the team together. Yeah, but the they have so

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many different needs on that team.
I mean that secondary really took a hit

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when they let Bates go to the
Falcons. They still need to work on

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that offensive line. They they need, they need a tight end. So

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while yes, they well, yes, they do have a lot of cap

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space, I I don't First,
I don't know if T Higgins wants to

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stay there. Who knows. It's
possible that he doesn't, that he doesn't

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want to leave, But there's no
way that they're gonna keep all three of

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those wide receivers on that roster.
I think they're going to for twenty twenty

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four. I think they break it
up clus and that's when they really get

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in a salary cut trouble because they've
already paid Burrow and then they got to

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pay Chase right behind that. And
so that's when, like when you got

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at thirty your salary cap in two
players. Yeah yeah, I don't think

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that because the other wide receiver,
Oh his name escapes me. It's Tyler

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Boyd. Yeah yeah, I mean
those are all three this year as well.

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He may yees. Yeah, that's
what I was saying. I mean

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those teams are those wide receivers are
going to go into free agency and they're

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gonna get paid twenty twenty plus million. Oh yeah, So I don't.

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I don't. They can't keep both
wide receivers and pay them both twenty million

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dollars. No, No, I
think I think Boyd definitely hits free agency

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this year. But Tyron Smith,
he's, like you said, one that

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probably the top offensive lineman and free
agency, but he's also turning thirty four

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this year. It's live how much
money are you going to invest in a

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thirty four year old left tackle?
Rum And so that's why my my number

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one targeting free agency would be the
Dolphin center Connor Williams, who's the number

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one center in free agency, and
so you build that that need in the

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middle, and then you can go
out with the seventh pick and build your

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left tackle and so then you've gotten
younger all the way, younger and better

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all the way across the left side
of your line. Not a bad idea,

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especially since we'll be we could get
Connor Williams for cheap because we entered

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we ended a season, Yeah exactly. And if we hire their assistant head

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coach as our offensive coordinator, then
we've got a you know, a build

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in recruiter there that can bring him
over. Yeah, that is true.

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But before we wrap it up,
you got any draft targets. I know

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everybody's wanting neither neighbors or a lift
tackle at number seven. You have any

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surprise pits, maybe somebody in the
second round you're looking at. I think

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every Titan at the end of the
day once Marvin Harrison Junior, I just

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think that we all are under the
impression that he won't be there. Yeah.

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I think draft day is full of
surprises. And there are teams in

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the NFL that are very QB needy. I mean, you've got the Falcons,

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You've got the Raiders, the Broncos
that could very quickly move up and

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try to move up in the draft
to get a quarterback. Yeah, so

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amazing as possible on draft not on
right before the draft hit this past year,

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mel Kpper released his final draft which
had will Levis going at number four,

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and we got him at number thirty
three. So, I mean,

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there's always somebody dropping unexpectedly, that's
true. Assuming we get a left tackle

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in the first round. I was
hoping we could address wide receiver in the

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second round. Polk El of Washington
one. He's one of the top ten

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or twelve wide receivers in the nation. And I mean he's no Morvan Harrison

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or Neighbors, but he's right there
at that very next level. I also

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think brock Bowers will drop into the
second round, and I'd be okay with

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us trying to get him because not
only could he help us in the blocking

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game, but he could also be
a vertical thraft Yeah if he If he

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drops out of the first round,
then that's a no brainer. I think

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that we freighted up to the top
of the second round, just like we

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did last year. Yeah, but
I think that's pretty much got us caught

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up on all the crazy coaching news
we've had this this past week. So

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hopefully we'll have an offensive coordinator to
talk about next time around. Let's hope

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for this time. I guess that's
gonna do it. You wanna tell everybody

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where they can find you at.
You can add me on Facebook Tyler Warren

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or on Instagram at Manning of Steel
twenty eighteen. All right, and as

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always, you can find me on
x at Titans w Order. And until

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next time, we appreciate everyone joining
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