What's up, everybody. Welcome to Rose Pricks. It's vander Pump time.
It's always vander Pump time. Though right in my heart. Yes, in
your heart and in your head. This is one place where your head and
your heart can be together. They collide in many ways, you might say.
I also want to say this, it's so weird. Every time I
watch vander Pump, I think, Okay, I'm gonna hate it. I'm
gonna go into this episode hating it, and then there's something I kind of
get drawn in a little and I think, I feel like you were having
a different feeling yesterday about it. Mm hmmm. I mean I get I
get a little drawn into the draw. I feel like they're hanging on.
And by the way, you know, they're taking a pause. I did
hear that. I did hear that. I mean, they're not saying they're
canceling, they're not ending, but they are taking a pause. And I
would have a I would imagine because they just couldn't keep up with the numbers
of last year, like they're really running out of stuff. Mm hmm.
But somehow, like some of the stuff still works, and I'm gonna when
we get to what it is, you're going to be really surprised what I
was in too, at what I think works, at what I grabbed me
last night, like something very specific, like drew me in, And you're
going to be upset about it, I think. And it's not sand of
all singing, Okay, who does it have to do with? If I
tell you that, then you're just gonna know. I guess I can just
tell you. I'm very into this narrative. Don't yell at me of Shorts
and Katie getting back together. And I know that I make really bad decisions
and I understand all that, but I just I like what they're doing there.
I know it's not going to happen, but I think that Schwartz was
like really genuinely trying to hook up with their and I enjoyed it. Oh
god, I think he's absolutely the worst. He's Oh god, he's so
bad. He's so manipulative, the way he was acting with Joe, the
whole thing, the way he was like, he's so flirty, and then
he's like what, Oh my god, I was just like being friendly.
I can't believe you took that wrong. Well, he's here right now.
I didn't want to just tell you straight up. I have a little bit
of a surprise for you guys listening, and especially for you, Stephanie.
He's here, he wants to talk to you. He's mad. He's a
little mad at what he's hearing because he feels like misunderstood. I'm just a
realist, Cecily. He calling you, Joseph. I don't know why he
wants to call you Joseph. He's not even Joe. Do you call stuff
st stee why ste y t. I have a hot take on this episode,
and you're not gonna like it. Okay, well you might, you
know what. You might be with me on this, but just I don't
think that Ariana's new boyfriend is into her. Oh god, I am one
hundred percent with you on that. Oh you are this is a This is
not yeah, no, this is a real take. I mean I'm only
I think this. Oh he's the worst. And I felt this, well,
I think he's just he wants to be on the show. Oh,
I'm getting all kinds of weird shit going on there. There's not I mean,
god's should we just let's get into that, okay, jose Okay,
and is there that's exciting and our friend who's going to be on our podcast?
Is gonna be on the podcast. She keeps putting us off because she's
like, I'm busy. I'm so busy assisting people, assisting other people.
Hi, I'm assisting other people right now. Can you please old over a
few weeks and also like her. You know, the reason they know her
is from UCB, because never forget Oriana is a comedian. First home,
she was very in a stand up and they're all in the UCB world and
they all do all these shows. That's how they know Ann and that's why
they're trying to make Anne happen real hard. Which is a good friend is
Kyle also from UCB because they are really trying to make Kyle happen. Don't
know I would have Maybe I don't know. I mean, maybe somebody knows
and can tell us, because it's exhausting Kyle. They put these people in
and they're just like, listen, I know I'm not a watcher from the
beginning, but even I know that Kyle is new for this season, and
all of a sudden, he's like a mainstay. Yeah, and they just
keep dropping his full name, you know what I mean. Just over and
we're like, Okay, we understand you're branding his thing, and now we
have to go to like San Francisco. Yeah, and everyone's like, oh
Kyle's store. Who fuck cares when Ann comes on? And I mean,
listen, we love you Anne. If you're listening, we don't think you
are, but if you are, we're excited to have you on. But
can we like throw some improv games at her? Can we ZimZam zoom her
zim zab zib or whatever? Do you just the whole time? Yeah?
What is she she's doing like space work. I mean, she's an improv
person. She's a UCB lady. So like, let's just throw let's throw
some idea. Let's just see what booksticks. Let's do the freeze game.
Here's a scenario. Yeah. Well she's like, okay, guys, I'm
gonna busy myself upstairs. What right? Right? Yeah? For no,
So they like give her her shot to show up. They're talking about the
sandwich shop, which, by the way, is opening I guess soon.
And you we are going, right, I can I have your commitment.
But of course, of course, so that's happening. Lisa drops by.
I'm sure you got super triggered by that because I did, because it's just
so boring. She also is a terrible actress. So it's like she's trying
to give herself a storyline and it's like she knows how she wants to come
across, but it's not quite working. Do you know what working? I
know exactly what you mean. And also another storyline they're trying to throw in.
They're like, so, wait, are you mad at Penny? Are
you got at Penny? That makes me so sad for a Penny? No,
Penny really wants to be here. Well, then Penny shouldn't be playing
fucking hardball. This is their store, this is their sandwich shop. Penny.
Oh, And she's like, have you have you run this my Penny?
And they're like no, and she's like, well, I really think
you should run it by Penny. Ken thinks, Ken, Ken, I
think you should do? What have a? Penny says, and what a
zandavals Zendavol says, all right, Ken, go back to your little thing,
go back to your little corner. Oh, poor Penny. We already
had feelings about Penny before this episode. Remember, we were feeling things about
her last season. I don't know why, yes, where are we mad
at? Where are we mad at? Penny? Well, she's very bossy
first of all. So Lisa's like, hmm, Penny was the CEO and
head of the back of the house. She's like, She's like, I've
always had a good relationship with Penny, and I worry if they pot ways
with Penny, they'll never open up this shop. That doesn't sound like you
have much faith in like the actual stars of your TV show. Right.
Also, Penny, I mean, isn't she the chef and they gave her
They're like, listen, she's not an owner. We're going to give her
a salary lost ten percent? Right, whatever profits this store makes. I
think that's pretty good. I mean, I'm no business lady. So maybe
Penny, you know, she knows more than I do for sure, But
I don't know. I don't know why she needs any prop back end at
all. No, And the way that they show how great she is is
because when she's helping Lisa Vander pump out, she's like, Lisa's like,
oh, I couldn't eat another bite of this food. It makes me so
full. She's like, but you have to, Lisa, you have to
try another bite of the foot dude, right, yeah, you gotta eat
skinny bones. Then it just cuts back. You're like, we needed it.
We did not need a flashback that we've never seen before. You never
you never need. We don't need to go like to the archives of a
scene that got cut to begin with for good reason. The poor editors.
They're like, can you find something anything? Or Penny is like doing something
important. They're like, no, we really can't. They're like, something,
find it. I don't care if it takes four days of sitting in
this edit bay. You will find something to find it, and we're not
going to pay you more either. This is your job. This is your
salary, just like Penny yep. Okay. So they're getting ready for Kyle
Chan's party, and that's like because of course they line yeah, oh god,
I said, oh, I wrote something down and then I wrote Stephanie's
going to be very mad at me. Huh, why are we both scared?
No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I thought Sandoval looked hot in this next scene. Oh you're right, I'm
fucking furious. How could you I know that? Like, just separating the
arch from the artist, separating the face from the monster like behavior. He's
a good looking all right, I said it. I'm sorry. No,
I'm like I slumped over. He's so trull like to me, he's just
like hunched over and his things with his Oh god, okay, what about
the sexy Hillary Clinton pants suit from Chico's. No, okay, I'm not
talking about the blue pants suit. I'm talking he walks in at some point
and I think he's just wearing a white shirt and he had the floppy nineties
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don't think so you do? Like if you were able to separate all that
he's done, is there a world in which you would think he was cute
if you didn't know? Really, you don't think he's kind of pretty?
What about? No? Okay, but with the normal hair not blonde?
Different they're so hot not Jackson. Don't think he's hot. James is hot
to me? No, no, no, we're differing, We're different.
No. Tom was being annoying. He was fake crying. Well, first
of all, Sena's in the store. Okay, this is such a ridiculous
setup. So Sena's in the store and h then so Tom stand up,
all walks in and she is like, it's Tom going to be performing too?
Like she doesn't know already, Kyle, is Tom going to be performing?
Because I thought it was just me that was performing. Yeah, So
then why Tom is crying. I just wrote Tom starts crying talking about how
cool Kyle is. Oh, because he's like like saved my life. Man.
He's like the best friend I've ever had. Like, like if I
could just be on a desert island with like one person for the rest of
my life, like it would be like Kyle Chan because he's that cool.
I know, I haven't mentioned him for like ever ten seasons and this is
his season, but like this whole time, you guys have been secretly like
best best friends with Kyle. He stood by me, you guys, he
stood by me, Like okay, all right, stand of all. Yeah,
I don't think that part's attractive. So yeah, so they have yeah,
he's so. Yeah. So Kyle's now sitting behind there. They're like,
he's like, let's all go upstairs, okay that he's sitting behind this
big desk like he's some kind of mop boss. Yeah, And he's like,
all right, guys, I'm concerned about like you two getting along,
Like after that shit show at the pool party. You know that I was
invited to for no reason that any audience member can understand, but you will,
you will understand it, Okay. I'm really like you guys are gonna
have to get along. Mm hmmm. So she's like, I'm never gonna
lose sight of what an amazing friend and all around great guy. Tom is
right, you're my best friend. Like, girl, no, Ariana is
your bass friend. Don't forget bitch like that shit makes me so mad,
Like she turned on her so fast, Oh my god. It's just she's
just constantly. It's it's aggressive, the way she just keeps bringing up how
much she loves Tom in front of Ariana. I know, and you know
I have thoughts on that, and she does it the whole episode. She's
done it the whole season, and I feel like it's her defense mechan I'm
not taking them for Sina because I'm no fan, but it's her defense mechanism
because she wants like she she did have a relationship with Tom at some point
for ten years, you know, because of Aria they were all close.
So it is probably kind of hard to go, okay, you're out that
I'm out, And I don't think Ariana is even asking her to do it,
but her throwing it in front of her face is almost her way of
I think, going like but it's okay, right, Like you do understand
we're going to be friends. It's like, I don't know how to explain
it. It's like she goes overboard because she's scared. She's scared of Ariana
and understandably, well, if she's scared of Ariana, why is she going
so far out of her way to talk about how great Tom is. I
don't know. It's like it's it's like her way of saying, remember we
were friends too. I'm not saying it's okay. I wouldn't do it.
If that was my best friend and they are, Sena and Ariana go way
back, they're really close, right, I wouldn't do that shit. I
wouldn't be friends with Tom. I would at least let the dust settle before,
like, you know, being friends. There's a lot of going on,
a lot happening back and forth, and one of the main things going
on is that it's a TV show, so like these people have to try
to pretend to get along with Tom because they're on a TV show with him.
Mariana was probably the only one who was like, no, I'm not
going to fucking fake it. Right to have the scene if you want,
but I'm not going to like act like everything's fine, which kind of brings
us to the next scene, which is La La for whatever reasons in Westwood
with Katie and then they call Sandival What did you think about that? Because
I had no idea which way that phone call was going to go. Well,
first of all, I have one more thing to say about this part
where Sheena is like, because we didn't get to the part where Sheen is
like, we're gonna stay best runs, Tom says, why does? He
doesn't get it at all until way later in the episode he pretends to,
but he's like, I soon understand why everybody needs to pick sides. I
mean, relationships end, and usually they don't end well, like nine out
of ten relationships end with the guy fucking the girl's best friend, right,
look into it and look at read about it. Yeah, that's he's I
mean, we know he's vile aside from being sexed, and Sheena basically that's
still his attitude. And Sheena's like, well, you know, boys are
gonna boy I mean, it's so stupid. So then Kyle tells Sheena after
Tom basically kind of says that. Kyle's like, yeah, you need to
stop torturing Tom about this kind of move on, and then Sheena goes,
you're right, you're right. I miss you, Tom, Let's not fight
anymore. I was like, that's how freaking easy. When Ariana watches this
back, she's not gonna be pissed. Oh yeah, there's gonna be some
stuff. There's already got to be some stuff. And that's again Katie rite
or die, But that's Katie. Yeah. So are you also shocked to
find out that Lala is only turning thirty three? Didn't you think she was
a little older? Yes? Is that possible? I mean I looked it
up. She's thirty, she was turning thirty three. It is that that's
happened, Okay, I know I was a little shocked. I did not
like that phone call. I don't understand. I guess she was calling him
just to say you're not invited, don't show up, right, which I
guess I like that part of it. I guess what else could they do?
They had to have a scene with them, they're probably all They probably
are like contract, like they have in their contract, they each have to
have a scene with each other. I remember that with housewives. Remember they
have to have at least one one on one each cast member. Okay,
and so maybe that's Lala when she had to do the scream therapy with him.
You know, they have to do something right. I'm sorry, I'm
changing my mind in mid sentence. I think I think what Lala did was
fine. Oh well, I mean he doesn't kive us up though. He's
just like, okay, I wasn't going to come to the party anyway.
She's like, okay, good, good, But I just want to make
sure because then the then the party happens and oh god, this parlose people.
But let's put on some clothes. Now. Did you see a familiar
face in the crowd in the crowd at the well, at the party.
Who Maybe I've lost my mind. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm okay,
hold on, will you pause us for a second. Who do you think
it was? Heather McDonald? Probably? Oh I thought, I mean I
thought that that was huge. Okay, she was there for that, Okay,
yeah, Heather trying to get some camera time with her best friend.
Who is she friends with? Is she friends with La La? I mean
she claims to be. I didn't know that. Well, she was at
the party enjoying this weird I call it a party. She was at the
scene. You know, they're they're filming, and it's like to also,
I don't know, I guess plug. This weird, like, uh,
stripper place right place, whatever it is that we're now that Vanderpump probably has
ownership in Okay, So, so Brock commits a microaggression. Did you catch
that? No, Rock's like, uh, he sees the stripper come out
and he goes, well, she's still wearing more than La La. Mate.
Oh yeah, he did say that. I thought that was somebody else
that said that, but no, I feel like it was James. James
said that. I'm pretty sure it was Brock. This is our last show.
No, I'm I swear. I mean, I could be wrong.
I didn't see it. I just heard the voice and I thought it was
James, and when I kind of didn't totally disagree with it. Is that
a microaggression? Well? Why are they? Why are they commenting on what
Lala was wearing? Who I mean, I mean, it is weird.
It's interesting that I'm like, oh, she should cover up and wear more
clothes like Lala looked. Fine, You're so well, I disagree on that,
but you're so right about this. It depends on who said it.
If Brock said it, it's different than James. James and Laala are old
friends and they kind of rib each other all the time. They make little
jokes about each other and their friends, and I think, like, it's
different if Brock said it. It also leads into the issue that Sheina has
that Brock is always flirting with Lala, which is something that Sina is now
voiced many times. Not Lala's fault, not Lalla's fault. But you know,
Sheena is basically blaming sand of all for it. She's like, I've
never seen cheating before. Now I have it in my head that Brock's like
as though, first of all, yeah, she also did it. The
whole group did it, so whatever. I mean, that's ridiculous. But
yeah, it's a different It hits differently depending on who said it, and
so we'll have to figure that out. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Brock said
it, because then right afterwards too, he was talking about how he's just
a conservative. You know, he grew up whatever Mormon. Oh that's right,
he grew up in the Mormon church. Yeah, so this was making
him really uncomfortable. This whole thing might have been him, and it's not
great. That won't be great on the watch back either for Shina. So
then this is the part where they talk about it openly comes up, Hey
La La called Sandoval, and Arianna does like a confessional where she's like,
I feel like I'm being a little gas lit, and I agreed. I
agreed. I think she is being a little gas lit, which is what
you said as well, Ariana, like she's sort of having to put up
with all this shit and acting like it's okay, and it really hurts her.
No one unless they're doing it off camera, and no one, no
one's pulling Ariana aside and saying, we're really sorry, we have to play
out the scene. We got to do it for Bravo. Yeah, yeah,
I mean maybe they are, I don't you know, I don't know,
but it doesn't seem like they are. Yeah. No, but like
right in front of right in front of her, right in front of Arianna
Shina, who they're now calling sheish. Have they always called her that?
Yeah for a while. Yeah, I don't know where that came from.
I think it was a stand of all. It sounds like a Schwartz nickname
because he has such a nickname. Where are you mad at me? Bubba?
Like they're all, yeah, I don't know where she came from,
but that's her. That's her name. So yeah, I don't know.
I thought I thought it sucked. Arianna just rolls her eyes. I keep
calling her. My daughter has a friend named Arianna. It is Ariana.
Oh okay, you got this girl? I mean you you get confused because
Schwartz calls her Arianna because he never learned her name. Got it? Okay?
Right? So then boyfriend Dan? Okay, so this is we go
to that scene where she's having dinner. Is that the scene where she's having
dinner with Dan? Uh? Yes? Because yes, so they're out to
eat for did they have this scene where they were on the phone or was
that last week? That was feel like that was last week? So now
it was planned that he was going to come out and go to San Francisco
but not hang out with them, which is a little strange to me.
But like she just wanted him hold up in a hotel. But she's right
away, she's so flirty. She's just like so she's overly into him.
She's just like, look at you, smoke show. Doesn't it seem a
little fake to you. Something is not reading here to me with her.
I don't know what it is. Maybe it's it's giving me a little cringe.
Well, it's giving me a lot of cringe. But I don't.
I think that she's been fucked over by her boyfriend, and I think she's
very, very needy and not in a good place to be in a serious
relationship. I agree with all that, but I also got cringed by the
baby like you should love the Los Angeles That's what I mean. She's she's
reading very very needy, and I think it's going to put him off.
I always sound like Adam Sandler when I do the Baby Boys. Just he
already seems annoyed. He's just like totally which and he's just a dude.
She's do she looking, He's do she acting? He's do she dressing?
Like everything about this guy is like fuck boy energy, and she's just like,
I'm going to change him. Dude, you already were with Tom Sandoval.
Now you're going to be with this other guy who's like the hair,
the clothes, the like. All he cares about is clearly like working out.
You can kind of smell the cologne through the TV. You know,
there's like yeah, yeah, there's definitely an energy. And I didn't feel
that way at first. I was like, Oh, give this guy a
chance. I'm happy. I love that that's my girl. Let's get her
better, let's heal her up. Yes, but this episode, really I
was kind of like, oh, I don't know when eyebrows up and now
I'm you got to win me back now. Yeah. So I was watching
this scene not knowing anything that was to come, not knowing all the time
he was going to be not spending with her, and I was like,
this doesn't feel mutual. It doesn't feel like he's really into her. It's
not just that, like I said, I don't. I think it's it's
not just that he's not as into her. He's kind of not being very
nice to her. It's not even just like okay, cool cool, like
okay, well we'll get to that, let's talk about okay. But one
of the other things that happens is she is clearly She's like, wouldn't it
be great like if you moved here, r like and I could see you
all the time. And he goes, well, she's like, you know
what's really great about like a long distance relationship is I feel like I've really
gotten to know you. And he's like ah, and then she's like He's
like, but you know what would be really really really great is like if
you've moved here, then I could see you all the time. And he
goes, not happening. Yeah, I guess we could love so we could
live somewhere else or something like that. But what about like when it's cold
like where you are. And he goes, well, we can go to
Europe. Yeah, it's good to Europe on your dime, right, you're
gonna keep making money? Yeah. I mean we haven't even talked about the
fact that Arian is hosting Love Island, right, you know that she's hosting
the season of Love Island that's coming soon, which we should probably cover.
Uh, she's hosting it. She got the hosting job, okay, which
is like pretty big windows. I don't know the start date, but it's
not far. Uh. And I have to say like, yeah, he's
probably like, yeah, yeah, how much money? He pulls out like
a little his iPhone calculator. How much you make on Chicago? Do you
still have such Chicago money left? Yeah? And what are Dancing with the
Stars was look into that and the Love Island. All right, that should
be enough for two first class tickets, right, He's just like, you
know what, I'm just a money guy. I'm just a money guy.
That's just what I do. I calculate, like how much money people make?
Why don't you move to watching and wach with me and living to houch?
So Sandoval has a gig? Up? Was that at the L ray?
I miss that? Wow? I like the L right now. It's
a little tainted. His mom shows up and she has the space while she's
watching him perform of like, what the fuck is this shit? Oh that's
so funny. I felt like she. I felt like it was more like,
oh my god, it's my baby. Oh I didn't do you know
what? We're all We're It's okay. This is why there's two people here,
I got. I mean, who's who's to really say? Who's to
really say? What she felt? I mean, she showed up. She's
probably been through it. I bet people came after her too. People find
every you know, people trolls are pretty awful. Okay, So James,
by the way is totally rolling his eyes and Tom being on stage, So
I was wondering if maybe, like he because remember he was supposed to be
opened for him. Yes, that's to show any of him opening up for
him. Yeah, he has to. He's he's contractually obligated, like he
has to be there. So he's like, all right, all right,
mm hmm, I'm sorry, there's someone on the roof. So sorry.
That was so scary. They're like fixing whatever, it doesn't matter. That
was terrifying. Yeah, So then Joe's there, Well, how'd you feel
about that? This is the crazy. So they're outside and Schwartz is like,
huh, Joseph, Joseph, how many? So, like, what's
up? I haven't seen you in like a while, because like whatever,
that was so crazy, like our last conversation like was so crazy. Anyway,
like how many guys have you banged since I saw you? She's like
what She's like, dude, I kind of liked her in this, although
she immediately does the robot. She's just not like other girls, Stephanie.
She's different. No, She's like, oh oh, So he's like Joseph,
like, I love you so much, like we're going to get married
in eight years and she goes broke me what she goes, Okay, we're
going to get married in eight years and he goes what she goes, You
just said that because I said that, fuck off Schwartz. Yeah, I'm
with you on that. I mean, the mixed signal thing was that was
that was really coming in coming in strong. This is this is pure gaslighting
behavior. And if you if you know, gaslight gets thrown around a lot.
This is gaslighting. It's gaslighting. When you go, I don't know
why you're getting mixed messages, like I'm not giving you mixed messages, like
you're making it up in your head that we have a relationship. It's like
she's trying to show him, no, I'm not. You say stuff like
that and then you act like I'm crazy. I love that, and I
like that. Joe kind of stood up and she stayed calm. I like,
I really liked Joe, except for when she was staring at the hand
of all and going, this is so good. Remember that in the crowd
he's performing and she's like, I love this. So I don't love that
aspect, but I do. I mean, I felt for Joe. And
not only is he's saying things like that they slept together. He told her
he loved her on many occasions. Right, So like we're Joe. That's
why I'm getting mixed messages though also with Katie, oh for sure, but
I just think Katie can she can handle it. Maybe that's why I just
know that Katie's strong and she could hurt him more than he would hurt her.
I think that Katie. I mean, that's just my feeling about her,
so like I'd love to see that, maybe because I think they're still
attracted to each other. I guess what you're saying is like, how how
does that end? Well? Yeah, but I just don't see Katie getting
hurt. But I think maybe there's more drama to come when Joe shows up,
which she is doing apparently tomorrow, right when we're doing this. So
they well, they go to San Francisco finally. They've been talking about the
San Francisco trip for years. It feels like right, uh, I just
so why is this happening? Arianna and Dan are in their hotel room and
he's you know, she's like what are you doing? What are you doing?
What are you doing? Oh by and he's like, I'm going to
work out. It's like really the second you get you dude, it's a
forty five minute flight, So you've gone that long without the gym that the
second you've checked into your hotel at the gym, you have to go work
out. You're on a romantical trip with your girlfriend, I know, the
Dan. Everyone else is getting ready to do stuff with each other, but
you're like, yeah, I'm going to work out. And if she was
to say, well, it's kind of weird, like he'd be like,
wow, why are you being so clingy? Mm hmmm mm hmmm. Yeah.
It's a cycle. I mean, I know a guy that's exactly like
this, and I don't know how to I don't know what to say about
it. It's so foreign to me, you know, but maybe with Dan,
maybe in this case it's the cameras what's so foreign to you. It's
foreign to me that he would want to leave the second he gets there and
go work out. It's for you, just as in like you don't like
to work out, or it's foreign to like you've never been with a guy.
That's kind of happen with a guy like that is foreign to me that
I would that I wouldn't want to work out the first second I get on
vacation with the person I'm dating, right that's you know, like what you're
exactly what you're saying, Like you that you just love to work out and
you'd want to work out immediately. Stephanie, No, I'm saying the opposite.
I feel like you're not. But like maybe it's the cameras with him.
Possibly maybe he's just like doesn't like the cameras on him and he's feeling
weird about Sandoval. I guess I'm trying to give him any benefit of the
doubt, but I don't like him. I'm with you. I'm just trying
to see like maybe where he's coming from there. But it's different to it's
different to be like, yeah, I'm I don't know. I was kind
of giving him the benefit of the doubt at first a little bit, but
then I was like, wow, they're all really going to do something kind
of fun together and he's not there, but it keeps getting worse. So
then so this was my thought, and I thought I was I actually thought
I was a little bit alone with it. I was like, I think
that's weird that he's like, I'm going to the gym, go off all
with your friends, so everyone has to buy hoodies because by the way,
the women said, it's going to be cold, it's San Francisco. You're
going to be on a boat, and none of the guy's brought a jacket
or even if they're all just wearing like tank tops, right to go get
these like stupid. Okay, it's all whatever. Fine, And then the
dumb conversation that Schwartz has with Sandabal. No one I just wrote, no
one cares that you're gonna move in. No one likes your cutesy You're not
Laverne and Suirly. I think they wanting a spin off. I know I've
been trying to do that forever. They were trying to do that with Tom
Tom. That was that was even a thought. It was certainly considered.
I think thankfully that didn't happen. Hopefully it never will. So they get
on their stupid wine therapy boat. Oh I hate mondays. It doesn't win.
It isn't wine therapy like a day coffee. Yes, exactly, yep.
Yeah, so everyone's getting along really well. Schwartz is like Joseph is
coming tomorrow, right, I wrote, the boat ride is done. And
this was just like that face gym place. It was just something to do,
something to advertise a scene a scene. What about when Zandaval on the
boat ride said like, oh, Ariano came, we came here, we
came here together. And in twenty fourteen, I'm like, yeah, is
that when you were with Kristin? You know it's not for whatever? The
fuck? Yeah, I mean that was probably right after it and they were
flaunding in her face. That wasn't super fun. I just want to let's
remind everyone. No, no, arian and Kristen were not great friends,
but it still happened. Right, Well, if it was ten years ago,
how long was he with Arion Dane, Uh, he's been with her
about that time. That's about when he got with her, and he was
with Kristin by the way, like seven years previous. He likes to do
these long relationships and then break up by cheating. That's obviously that's his thing.
So then I just wrote, Brock is trying to forgive splain Arianna right
right, well, forget this, I just wrote, I guess Dan still
working out, So yeah, right. I thought Arianna held her own so
well in the scene, She's like loved this. Yeah, everything she said
made sense to me here yep, She's like, uh, he says,
you know, I can't really do his I can't do his own I can't.
I can't do his accent. Bike. Forgiveness is so great because then
you know, if you forgive, then I can keep money making money on
this shows. Sure. Narrnar Ariana like she's like, no, no,
he did damage to me. She saying I'm dated. She goes, that
is outdated therapy. I'm gray rocking, which I don't know what that means,
but whatever, gray rocking is what you're supposed to do when it's a
big thing in therapy where you go no contact. You're supposed to have absolutely
no or as little contact as you have to have, like if you have
a kid together, something you have to like say, okay, need you
at five o'clock for the drop off? Things like that, but you know,
and in their case they live together. But yeah, gray rock is
like you're a rock, You're a stone, you can't be broken, and
you're not going to talk to this person. I'm not a huge fan of
it, as you know. I have a hard time with it. There
are different theories onto whether it's a good good for you or not good for
you, because it's very black and white thinking. But I think in this
case, I'm with her one hundred percent, and I totally love what she
said about it. Sometimes anger is easier than sadness. Just let her sit
in the anger. She's not bitter, she's going to be just she's killing
it. Yeah, she's like, listen, pussy power, you know,
having whatever control over my emotions, that's power. I stand by that.
Yeah. And also she made a great point about rage. How come women
can't have rage but all the guys are just constantly yelling all the time.
Yeah, shows bad. Well what are you talking about? She's like,
what do you mean? What am I talking about? Look at the fucking
world. And he's like, I don't really say it said, but she
stayed really calm. She didn't say look at the fucking She was just like,
look at this. And then the editors did it for her. I
like that they showed, you know, a little four square of all those
guys just screaming and nobody ever, nobody ever follows up really on it.
Nope, And she said that about she goes, Yeah, She's like,
he's like, don't you care about your friend Sheena? And she's like,
it's because I care about him. I didn't appreciate Sandabal just screaming in her
face. Yep, not okay by me, And she's the only one making
sense, she and Katie and here we are. Yeah, and then Lala
comes to Ariana in Dan's room. I put Dan in quotes of this.
I'm trying to remember who is not speaking though at this point, like I
mean, not on the show, but later who got into the fight and
this episode no later, according to gossip, I don't remember, is it
is it Arianna and sheina, I know you're speaking last week and I don't.
Lama, Well, I guess we'll see, okay, all right?
So oh so I just wrote, OMG, other people are picking up on
this Dan thing. So you think when Laala came in she was picking something
up because she she says, well, so Lala comes in and Arianna is
like, yeah, like Dan ironed my clothes and like brought me a drink.
But Dan's going out with his friend now. And so later because I
well, because somebody is like, don't you think do you think it's weird?
Oh? Because I think that didn't. Arianna and Brock talk about the
fact that do you think it's weird that Dan didn't come on the boat?
I think they all say I mean, I think even Sandoval was saying.
They were all kind of saying it. They all have like little mini conversations
about Dan. But before that, what do you think about Laala coming in
with Dan shirtless walking around getting ready, and Lala is like, you're have
a really good body. That's unnecessary to me. Yeah, yep, weird.
It's weird on every level, but whatever, that's the least of our
worries right now. Because James is in a bubble bath and they're talking about
Dan, that's probably what you're talking about. Because they're talking about it.
They're saying like, don't you think it's weird? Yes, yes, James
and Alliot yes. Because then I had to go back. I think I
was just letting the show play a little bit. Then I went back to
and I wrote, oh my god, people are picking up on this.
And then I went back to say, yeah, well, James is are
also kind of voice for reason this season, not usually, And then and
then there's a little clip back to Dan and she says Dan is on I
just wrote, Dan is unbothered by Sandoval, So he's trying to play it.
Really, He's like, I don't care about that guy whatever. I
don't care. But this also, if we take him at his word,
I think it ruins the the probability of the fact that the reason he won't
go and do stuff with the group is because of Tom. Okay, yes,
and let's talk about this. This is a major thing. So Laala's
in the room and she says to Dan, this is part of all this
that you're talking about. She's like, uh, so you have you have
issues with Sandobal and he's like, wha, never done anything to me.
He literally uses the like always been nice to me argument. Yeah, immediately
covers himself and it was like, but I know he did stuffed Ariana and
then you could see it because at that moment, yeah, something like that,
but he didn't forget to pick up her dry cleaning. He slept with
her best friend. Yeah. And then also Arianna's right there and he only
I feel like he only covered it because she's right there because he was like,
well, that guy's never done anything to me. So I was so
weird. And also like, are you in their friend group? Like how
did they even meet? Was this a friend of because I don't think it
was a friend to Tom. Feel like they're not in New York. I'm
not sure, right, So why is he even saying that? Why is
he like Tom's always been nice to me? Basically, I know, I
don't know. He didn't say always been nice. He said he's never done
anything to me. So it's not even saying like that they have a relationship
because they don't. But he's trying to say, like, oh, I
don't I don't you know, I don't take on other people's beep, sorry
except honor. You're paying for this hotel, right, exactly, dude.
I mean I'm in all caps at this point in my notes because I got
like I woke up and this this is like whoa you will that a QAnon
style, Like you're like, oh I'm awake. Oh I'm awake now,
I see it all now. So then they have their stupid twenties party.
You know. I don't like themes or organized hate it. Yeah, hate
it. You know what I was thinking. My brain was just like God,
too much pressure, Like do you have to do? You have to
do? You have to find a costume store in La? Do you find
one in New York? Can you find this ship at the mall? Like?
How how much planning went into dressing like a gangster for no reason,
for no reason at all. I will say I fought. I went to
a Halloween party of like kind of like a like a working writer and there
are going to be a lot of kind of cool people there last year,
and I really fought the costumes and said to my friend, I was like,
do we have to go? Like, I don't want to. I'm
so depressed. My friends like you absolutely have to, like we're all like
really going and hard. So I did. I put together a little cost
and I felt I was so happy that I did it. There is something
fun once you get there and everyone's all dressed up and you feel kind of
different in your clothes. Huh, So I'm going back. I don't like
it when it's presented to me in an invitation, but if I do it
and I just like go with it, it's kind of fun. I don't
know. They looked kind of cute, wowowerful circle. We sure did.
And I feel like when they were walking down the street, I think it
was brock but one of them goose stepped. I just wanted to point that
out. Oh boy, you notice that, Yeah, somebody did a little
goose step. Sandoval has to make a joke. What was this Saneval makes
a joke with Arianna. Oh, and she's not having it. Oh something
about their shoes are the wing tips? Yeah, that they both have the
same thing. And he's like, oh, he goes great minds And she
just rolls her eyes. She's just like, she's not going to be broken
in this moment, idiot. No. So then Schwartz goes over yeah yeah,
yeah. So then Schwartz is like alone with Katie. He goes out
any he does this thing that I'm really getting mad at where he's just like,
let me flirt with my I'm trying to flirt with my ex wife.
It's just such a flirt. It's right. I don't find it charming at
all. And he's like, Katie, you like me again, bubba?
She goes no, I don't know, right yeah, And he's like,
okay, how about we have a one night stand. Okay, let me
finish, let me finish, let me finish, Like we'll order but just
snacks and like scroll out our phones. Right, that's what's there because we
didn't we weren't having sex at the end of our relationship. See what I
did there? This thing that I'm like stabbing you about like by talking about
it to all my friends about how we never had sex. Like I'm gonna
now, I'm gonna make that a joke. You know, I'm gonna say,
this is no excuse. This is just a note that I made,
Like this is alleged because I'm not there, so I'm not claiming it.
But in my opinion, it's he seems to be kind of rolling, like
I think he's on something. Oh, I don't know if that's always Schwartz,
but it seems like, you know, I know, Molly seemed to
be like a thing that they did. You know, I would not be
shocked if he was not. That doesn't That does not in any way excuse
him being inappropriate and saying what he says. But he seemed really like glossed
over, you know what I you know what I mean the way that's possible
true, Yeah, his eyes. I wish they could do a zoom in
on the Pupils that could be its own show. Maybe we could do that
show and just like zoom in every single scene and see what they're on.
Yeah, yes, but it doesn't matter it was. I do still want
them to make out. Maybe that's just like weird porn that I'm looking for
right now? Hm, because I do think I think she's so like she's
got it together so she can do whatever she wants. But she stood,
She's like, no, dude, no, right. So then Sandoval pools
Sheena in front of Ariana and she goes She's like, okay, let's go
talk. And then what are what Sheina does next made my blood boil?
Do you know what I'm talking about? Uh? When she was like hugging
him. Well, first she goes off to talk to him in front of
She's like, okay, yeah, let's go talk. So they go talk
and she brings up this thing to Tom. She's like, you need to
apologize to Ariana. It was really rude that you said that she wanted to
kill herself, right, Okay, let me point out that you're bringing it
up again on camera. Tina, yep, some friend, Yeah you could.
A lot of people wouldn't even know that he said that if they didn't
watch last season. We don't need to bring it up again. It was
a horrible thing for him to reveal, right, if it's even true,
but like, either way, it doesn't matter, Like that is the most
disgusting thing I've ever seen on a show, and she brings it up again
because she loves it. Yeah, she's like she's a person. She she
is a bad person. I always try to get like I'm sorry, because
I do try to sometimes go well, let me see where she's coming from.
I can't on that one. That's just nasty. Do you think that
if we called her out, if she was here right now, would she
see it? Would she understand or no, I'm just trying to help my
friends here. This just goes plays into it. Before that happens, Tom's
like, hey, so like tomorrow week, we're going to do a sound
check, and she goes I've never in my life done a sound check or
practiced because I'm not a singer, sand of All, I'm not a finger.
I don't practice. I don't do sound checks like I just I'm shina.
I just show up, I say what I want, like no responsibility,
like what, don't expect anything of me? Like I'm just me take
it or leave it. Okay, Well I'll just take care of I'll pay
for it. I'll take care of it. I almost said something nice about
Sandabal again, but I'm not gonna do it. I won't do it.
Thank you, control yourself. I am sorry. Sometimes it's just it's the
hair. It's always the hair, floppy hair. You really can get away
with a lot more if you have at hair like that. So Sheina is
just like, look, you have to take responsibility, like she froze her
eggs, she did therapy, Like she didn't do all that stuff for herself,
Like she just did everything for you because she was really needy, because
she like really like loved you so much and it's like over you because she'll
never get and she really has a hard time with men. She know which
has the most. But you're right on that part. It didn't bother me
as much that she's like, yeah, she did all this for you,
Like, don't be an asshole. She doesn't need to bring up he mental
hell. Right, So then Tom says yeah, like to camera, he's
like, yeah, she made some good points or whatever. I don't know,
Yeah, Okay, that's it. And then that's how we leave the
episode. They don't even give us like a like trailer for next week,
just right into the valley, just right into the hell escape that is the
valley. They're so scared that nobody's watching the Valley, which is true.
Nobody's watching the Valley that they're like, oh my god, we have to
just make people. How do we make people? How do we force their
eyes to watch the Valley? I mean, that's what they did with vander
pump. They got us in through Housewives and they would just throw the episode.
They used to do this. I can't believe they don't now two hour
episodes. You would open your thing and it would show a two hour episode
of Housewives, but it wasn't. It was an hour of Housewives, and
then they would throw vander Pump in on the direct TV. Amazing that they
would do that and it worked. I mean I watched it. I'm not
watching the Valley. That will never work. There. Should we give some
shouts to some of my friends, of course, but of course how about
should I do it as SHANEA? Should I do it as Don Lee?
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Sarah Baker and Jenny Harden. It's kind of a close to a little bit
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McMurray and yarbro I hope. You're just really being kind to yourself after what
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