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Are there any thoughts that you 20 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:46.280 have about VPR. I actually didn't mind brock Andshen of this episode, to 21 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:49.400 be honest, Like, normally they've been bothering me. They're annoying, I 22 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:52.799 think Brock especially, but this episode, I'm like, oh, I mean 23 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:57.000 I don't mind you. I mean you're still unlikable, still annoying, but 24 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:00.640 I didn't mind them. Okay, yeah, that's in because I still can't 25 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:07.080 stand them. My major takeaway is like I really don't like La La, 26 00:02:07.639 --> 00:02:12.919 which is unfortunate because they came into this season kind of hopeful, especially off 27 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:17.879 the season eleven reunion and how she was standing for Ariana. But like the 28 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:23.840 way she made James having a bit of an emotional breakdown and like expressing his 29 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:30.439 vulnerability about Graham slash Hippie, about herself and her being a mother, and 30 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:34.120 about how we never want to have a man be first, Like it was 31 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:38.280 just crazy to me. Yeah, it's like you have to insert yourself into 32 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:42.400 every scene. Why I know, because she's bitter. I don't know why, 33 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:45.599 like, why do you have to be like opinionated, like you're not 34 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:49.319 this like enlightened person just because you're five years sober, like congrats, but 35 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:53.400 chill out a little bit. Yes, kind of annoying. It is annoying 36 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:57.680 and I'm getting irritated with it. And then I sent you that meme that 37 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:02.639 I saw. Yes, it's got pictures of Laala pointing at Sandoval screaming at 38 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:07.319 him, a picture of Sena pointing at Sandoval screaming at him, and then 39 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:13.840 the picture of Ariana pointing at Sandoval screaming at him. And then somebody's asking 40 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:17.319 the question like why is it okay for Shina and Lala to scream at Sandoval? 41 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:22.719 But when Ariana does it, like oh she's toxic? Or when is 42 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:23.639 she going to get some therapy? When is she going to move out of 43 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:28.759 the house? Yes, I thought that was pretty interesting. Oh yeah, 44 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:30.319 I posted on our ig Oh you taus. I'm like, that's based a 45 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:36.719 book, very insightful because it's like critical, why are we dogging on Ariana 46 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:39.680 for expressing her anger? And oh she's so mean and terrible and abusive. 47 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:44.599 But then Sina's literally screaming at Sandoval's face, and same thing with Laala. 48 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:46.520 She's been doing it all seasons. And don't get me wrong, like he 49 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:52.080 deserves to be screamed at, Yeah, but most of all by Arianna. 50 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:55.080 Yeah. Ari, there's nothing wrong. In fact, I don't blame Ariana 51 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:59.439 for screaming at him. But I'm like these women, Oh, I know, 52 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:02.639 I guess. Laala was up on her Amazon Live this week, Yeah, 53 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:09.039 and somebody asked her about what she thinks of the backlash that she's getting 54 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:13.240 for her portrayal this season, and she actually started crying, and she's like, 55 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:16.319 I don't read the comments. I don't read the posts because I do 56 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:20.079 not regret the way that I acted this season, but I really don't want 57 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:25.160 people calling out how silly and stupid I have been. And she's crying. 58 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:28.879 She's like, I'm a real person, this is my real life. I 59 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:32.279 can't spend my time reading all of this toxic bullshit. I'm like, okay, 60 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:35.199 what, but like, you've been on a show for how long, 61 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:39.319 like years? I mean, this is just what it is. Like. 62 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.639 Granted, some people are cruel on the internet. I totally get that, 63 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:45.680 Like, don't pay attention to the trolls, But at the same time, 64 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:46.959 I'm like, I don't feel bad for you. You're in the public eye 65 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:53.160 and Lala, you're very cruel and hypocritical and toxic and screaming at people and 66 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:57.240 being aggressive, but you can't handle it when you're getting a little bit of 67 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:00.399 that back at you via backlash. I thought that was very interesting. The 68 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:04.759 other little tidbit that I saw on the in andnet was about Ariana. I 69 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:09.720 guess she was at some sort of an event and she was being asked questions 70 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:14.319 and they asked her about whether she was going to return for season twelve, 71 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:18.600 And of course I have mentioned on this podcast, we have had conversations in 72 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:24.439 which I opined that maybe she's not going to be coming back because if she 73 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:29.199 can continue to get lucrative brand deals and maybe other shows, like why would 74 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:33.199 she want to come back to VPR. And her response apparently was that she 75 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:39.800 would only come back to VPR if she could be her authentic self and if 76 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:46.519 they could like shoot scenes, have experiences that were authentic, which provides some 77 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:53.439 subtext which makes it sound like maybe it wasn't so authentic in this season, 78 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:57.839 and also like was she forced to go to all these parties, to all 79 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:00.360 these events, to all these things that top Tom, to all these dumb 80 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:03.920 things at James's or the beach, because if she didn't, she was going 81 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:09.399 to lose her job. Well, I have been feeling like this whole season. 82 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:11.879 That was what I was gonna mention earlier in my hot take, and 83 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:16.000 I forgot. But all of the editing in every episode feels very like patched 84 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:19.439 together, like they're obviously putting together a narrative. We've kind of talked about 85 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:24.639 it, like maybe they thought Raquel Rachel was going to come back and so 86 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:28.759 now they had to do like, you know, plan b's storyline for the 87 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:32.120 season. But like all of the editing is so weird sometimes and I'm just 88 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:35.319 like, Okay, I feel like we're faking a lot in the show, 89 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:39.279 and I know Bravo's like notorious for that. A lot of it is like 90 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:42.839 very produced, and that's kind of just suppose it with The Valley though, 91 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:46.639 well, yeah, The Valley feels like old school reality TVs two thousand and 92 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:51.920 eight ten. Yes, it's lit. The Valley's actually a really production company 93 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:57.439 producing both shows, or is it different because they feel very different. They 94 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:00.759 do feel very different because the Valley does feel very authentic, even though some 95 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:04.360 of the characters on there are trying to produce themselves. They're not hide and 96 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:09.800 show, so it's very entertaining. Yeah. Interesting, I thought it was 97 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:12.399 interesting. So we'll see if Ariana comes back. Do we want her to 98 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:15.639 come back? I know that Laala had referred to her as a wet noodle 99 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:19.040 who kind of doesn't bring a whole lot to the show, and from an 100 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:24.720 objective standpoint, I can kind of see what she means. Ye, because 101 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:30.279 Ariana has never really been at the forefront of storylines. Sure, but I 102 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:32.920 don't know. I'd like her to come back me too, especially if she 103 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:38.959 can be her real self with her new Mimi. Yeah, who's handsome. 104 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:41.439 By the way, he is handsome, although I hear that he does not 105 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:44.480 want to film, like he doesn't want any part of this bullshit, even 106 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:47.519 though he's on FaceTime in this episode. Yeah, I can't. Yeah, 107 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:51.360 whatever, I'm sure once Bravo comes in with the checks and is like, 108 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:55.079 well, dude, we can pay you X amount of money, he's gonna 109 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:58.560 be like, oh, I'll film. I'm sure he will. Well, 110 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:01.199 we'll see what happens. Yeah, I'll definitely be watching all right, let's 111 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:05.439 get into this episode. We're in season eleven, episode I want to say 112 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:11.800 twelve or thirteen thirteen entitled Jack's Attack, Jack's Attack, which I mean, 113 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.319 I was expecting some craziness with Jackson, and it was very wet noodle. 114 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.560 It was very boring, but we'll get into it. We start with James 115 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:26.519 and Ali at their house and Jacks shows up to talk about hosting brunch. 116 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:28.519 I think at sir right, he's hosting it there, and I don't know 117 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:35.159 why he's hosting it. Well, he has been asking both James and Guillermo 118 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:41.000 at SIR to host an event. Like he's trying to get back into Sir 119 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:43.320 for whatever reason, because he's poor, back in business. Yes, he's 120 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:46.559 looking for the he needs money, yes, and we see that in the 121 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:50.720 Valley too when we talk about that later. He's totally wanting money. But 122 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:56.320 he shows up and he's talking about you know, how much they've changed since 123 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:58.039 Sir. James kind of talks about it in his talking head. He's like, 124 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.120 we've called him along. I guess they used to be at each other's 125 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:03.360 throats all the time, back and forth, back and forth. Yes, 126 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.399 interesting that they're now kind of trying to be buds. Well, I mean 127 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:11.639 you had a coked out Jax who was a free radical and out of control, 128 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:15.799 and then you had a super drunk and drugged out James who was also 129 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:18.720 toxic and of free radical. So they would often butt heads and it was 130 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.519 very chaotic and entertaining. Really. Yes, well, and Jackson's forty something 131 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:26.720 right, so yeah, James is a little bit younger than him. Yes, 132 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:28.159 so I'm sure they were just quite a bit. I think jack there's 133 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:31.120 what forty four to forty five, and I think James is like thirty one 134 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.720 thirty two. So Jax is that oldest. Oh my, yes, he's 135 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:37.159 the oldest. He's not the number one guy in the group, but he's 136 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:41.519 the oldest guy in the group. That's embarrassing. Yeah, people get older. 137 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:46.240 No, I'm just like, he just acts like very image. Yeah, 138 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:48.000 he does that. So that's why I'm saying it's embarrassing, like forty 139 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:52.480 five and you're like, geez. But anyway, so he's chatting with James. 140 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:54.039 Ali's there and she's like, well, I gotta go do an astrology 141 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:58.799 reading bye, And then this is where Jackson James kind of start talking shit, 142 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:01.840 and Jackson's talking about Katie, So can you kind of elaborate on like 143 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:07.159 their history, because it sounds like Katie fucking hates this dude. Katie does 144 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:13.519 hate Jax because Jax was with Stossy. Stossy was Katie's very best friend. 145 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.600 So then when Jack's cheated on Stossy with Kristen of all people, Katie was 146 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.440 right there. But I mean, Jacks has just done a series of really 147 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:26.639 gross, grungy things, and Katie rightly thinks he is a piece of shit. 148 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.759 And he also talked mat sit about Katie. She knows it, and 149 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:33.759 she doesn't want to have anything to do with him after all these years. 150 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.320 She's known him for many many years. She's seen the shit that he does, 151 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:39.840 and she doesn't want any part of it. She's moving on, I 152 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:45.120 mean fair well, and Jacks is like trying to blame her for the cheating 153 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:48.840 rumors of him cheating on Brittany and Katie and her talking heads, like, 154 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.960 dude, it was all over the internet. I just said what everybody else 155 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.879 is saying online, like why are you making me the scapegoat for that when 156 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:58.799 you're a cheating asshole. Well, because in fairness, Katie did bring it 157 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:03.240 up on camera, which is kind of what Kristen did on the Valley, 158 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:07.279 And so I think that's probably what Jackson's really pissed off about. It that 159 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.600 she had the audacity to mention it while the cameras were rolling, and so 160 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:13.600 that he was going to have to contend with it, and potentially it embarrassed 161 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.399 Brittany. But at the same time, I don't care. I don't care. 162 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:20.840 He's harder well, and like the Bravo editors are showing shit from VPR 163 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:24.159 earlier seasons of Jack's literally confessing to cheating on Brittany, and Brittany's like, 164 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:28.720 Ronny, how many times are we going to have to see that flashback val 165 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:35.200 pump Rules and on the Valley from Hail like he was a piece of shit? 166 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:37.200 Oh yeah, he cheated with Faith I mean, I mean he cheated 167 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:41.440 before that too, He cheated on Stossy. He is a cheater, cheater, 168 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:45.960 pumpkiny, pumpkin eater, and he's probably cheating right now. That's why 169 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:50.279 he's getting all men. Well, there was that photograph of him and his 170 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:54.360 PR person I don't know what her name is, I don't care, And 171 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:58.240 then there were rumors and people saying, wow, they look kind of cozy 172 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:05.759 together thing. We know Brittany has unfollowed Jack's on Instagram and has unfollowed that 173 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:09.559 PR person, which was her PR person. Like the last photo that that 174 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.440 PR person had on her ig was of her and Brittany, and so Brittany 175 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.799 unfollowed her and Jack's. So people are putting two and two together thinking, 176 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.039 well, Jack's is out here maybe banging the PR person totally, that's why 177 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:26.320 he's not banging Brittany gut roast so nasty. So anyway, they're gonna host 178 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:30.799 brunch and Lisa vander Pump's gonna be there, and Jax's all worried about confronting 179 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:33.879 her, and then we bop on over to Shena and Brock's house where Britney's 180 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:39.519 at and Brittany and Shena are chatting about their husbands because they're BFFs. I 181 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:45.000 guess her and Brittany I don't care. The only thing that's entertaining about it 182 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:48.600 is that Sheena kind of breaks down and is like talking about the issues that 183 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:52.279 she's having with Brock, and then we flash over to Brock with his friend 184 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:56.159 and the main issue, it seems like to me, is that Brock has 185 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.320 a problem with not being the provider of the house, and he's it's a 186 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.759 problem with Sena being the breadwinner. He wants to take the pressure off of 187 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:09.000 her. Sheena doesn't understand that. She's like so misogynistically, let me just 188 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:13.759 be a bad bitch and provide the money, like it's fine. So, 189 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.480 yeah, what do you think about all this? Well, actually, up 190 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:20.120 until this point, I've been side eyeing Brock because I just felt like he 191 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:26.080 was an opportunist who was out here using Sena Sheha and her fame and her 192 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:31.039 money. But seeing him talk to his friend, who, by the way, 193 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:33.600 was pretty hot. It's pretty hot. I see him talking to his 194 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.440 friend about how it is important to his identity as a man, as a 195 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:41.559 provider, that he is busy, that he's doing something, that he has 196 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:45.600 goals, that he has dreams for himself, like that's part of his life 197 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:48.279 purpose. And I really believed him in that moment. Yeah, And then 198 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:52.759 we hear Shena talk to Brittany but also in the after show, and she's 199 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:56.440 like, he takes so much off of my plate, not just by taking 200 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:01.240 care of my child, but like he facilitates my pocket cast, he facilitates 201 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:05.000 my business, my business ventures. He does so much for me, and 202 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:07.279 because he does, we make the money that we make, it all goes 203 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.200 into one account, and yeah, it's my LLC. But he's there with 204 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:15.799 me. We're partners. He's contributing to that. And I thought that was 205 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:18.639 a good point. So I feel for him me too. I want him 206 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:20.840 to succeed in whatever he wants to do. But then we see him on 207 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:28.039 the after Show talking about wanting to get into television and movies and stuff. 208 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.120 He wants the fame. Does he want to act or does he want to 209 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:33.679 be behind the camera. I couldn't really tell based on the vibe. I 210 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:37.840 don't know. I'm like wondering if he's going for like a Jason Momoa type 211 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:39.480 of thing where I'm like, cause he's kind of got that like you know 212 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:43.519 build you know these man be like, oh maybe I could be famous. 213 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:46.399 I could be Aquaman or some stupid shit like that. Yeah, And I 214 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:48.879 was like, dude, like take your talent elsewhere. Oh, get a 215 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:54.159 practical career like real estate or something like where you could use your fame and 216 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:56.919 actually make like money. Now it's not the time to be a real estate 217 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:01.519 agent in California with a man, tax and everything, but yeah, find 218 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:05.639 a more conventional career. But can we all just take a moment and a 219 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:11.519 deep breath, all of the hadterosexual and bisexual women out there, as we 220 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:18.240 remember the picture of a young Brock Davies out on the farm, I like, 221 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:22.120 how to stop it and you wind it and pause it. I was 222 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:28.000 just like, holy fuck, that's a handsome man. That is a has 223 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.279 a man. Yeah, probably about I don't know, forty pounds, thinner 224 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:33.600 or something. Not that he's fat, but he's got muscles. Yeah, 225 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:37.200 but like when he was young and thin and wiry. Yes, God, 226 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:39.759 yes, ma'am, I'm all about it. Do you think he's got a 227 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:43.679 big old dick? I hope that. I hope that for shadea and nice, 228 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.559 big old thick. Call him of a dick, that's what it is, 229 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:50.960 probably is, Yeah, I hope so. But I just thought he 230 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:54.919 was so handsome. Oh I love a shaved head, baby, I doAnd 231 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:58.720 well, except for he looks like an egg when he does you call him 232 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:03.320 this, I do. That's exactly right. But anyway, I thought it 233 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:07.039 was interesting to kind of learn a little bit more about Shina and Brock. 234 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:11.320 But honestly, in the grand scheme of things. It's boring, ap I 235 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:15.639 do not care. This is not the vander Pump Rules content that I'm here 236 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:18.919 for. I'm here for the drama. Yeah, they belong more on the 237 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:22.799 valley where like it's a bunch of married couples with kids and they talk about 238 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.759 their problems and that's more interesting, but not a VBR. Everybody's a bunch 239 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:33.440 of hoes on drunk, dry hump fight. That's what I want, That's 240 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:37.600 what I want to see. And then we have Katie and Tom Schwartz going 241 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:40.000 to lunch, which is just kind of like, you know, a little 242 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:45.720 small scene. I loved it, but it was very interesting street. Yeah, 243 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:49.279 they're talking about Tory, the girl that they're both competitively like, let's 244 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:52.799 text her, see who she texts back. She ends up texting Tom Schwartz 245 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:57.919 back first. But it was just their rapport together because we've seen season after 246 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:02.879 season, well we have honey, We've seen season after season of them fighting 247 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:07.400 and contending against each other and then divorcing, and it was so refreshing to 248 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:11.480 just see them at a table being friends, I know. And there was 249 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:15.640 a little bit low key chemistry between them. Oh totally. I think Schwartz 250 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:21.359 is looking at this beautiful dime piece that he fucked up with and he's like, 251 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:26.039 I hate myself. Honestly, that's my general vibe vibe Jeck my fake 252 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:29.559 psychic prediction that he cries himself to sleep every night because he's like, damn, 253 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:30.599 I really messed it up with Katie and I don't know how to get 254 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:33.400 it back, get her back. And now he's going to lunch with her 255 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.960 and he's like flirting a little bit, kind of playing jokes with her. 256 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.359 Yeah, And I'm like, you want her backs, I don't. I 257 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:45.839 think what we see in the preview with him propositioning Katie for like a one 258 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.319 night stand, uh huh, for old times sake, I feel like that's 259 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:52.920 more in alignment with what Tom Schwartz really wants because he does not want a 260 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:56.839 partner again. He does not know how to be a partner. We see 261 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:00.519 that when Jax confronts Katie. We'll get to that when we do like he 262 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:03.839 doesn't want to put in the effort to maintain a relationship with a person of 263 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:07.759 quality like Katie, but he definitely wants to bang her back out if he 264 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.839 gets an opportunity to do so. See I don't think I think he doesn't 265 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:12.240 want to be alone, but I don't think he wants to do the work 266 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:15.960 to actually be in a relationship. I think you're right on that, Like 267 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:18.640 he just doesn't want to be alone though, and that's why he's now with 268 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:22.160 a twenty four year old girl because she doesn't know what she should require for 269 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:26.880 herself because she's too young. Like you get a woman of quality like Katie 270 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:29.400 or myself, I dare say, yeah, I know what I want, 271 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:33.400 hany you better come correct for going to be in a relationship. Like younger 272 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:34.480 girls, they're not there yet most of them, not all of them. 273 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:38.240 Yeah, not me, but you know, it had me thinking about Tom 274 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:44.480 Schwartz and his broken dick based on what Katie said seasons ago talking about his 275 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:49.000 broken dick. And then I saw something about Joe, that crackhead crazy girl 276 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:55.680 according to Katie. I saw something where Joe was asked on an Instagram live 277 00:18:55.799 --> 00:19:03.079 honey, whether she sucked off Tom Schwartz, Like who who would have the 278 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:07.160 audeacity to ask the question? I would have wanted to ask. I would 279 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:10.960 have totally asked it. And Joe is like, of course we were together 280 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:15.240 in a relationship and she said Tom's really good at sex. Shut. She 281 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:18.799 said, She's like, I don't know what Katie's talking about, but he's 282 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:22.720 really great at sex. Well that I mean you can relate to that. 283 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:30.799 What do you mean with your own broken dick eggs? You're related to that? 284 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:33.920 Listen. I don't know why we are going out there right now, 285 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:36.960 because it's the same situation. You're like, I don't understand it. What 286 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:40.759 are you talking about? Well, I don't understand it. When I look 287 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:47.000 at Tom Schwartz, a lot of people think he's my ex, had some 288 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:49.359 game, some swag. Okay, I mean it was more like Jesse Lally 289 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:52.079 though, I swear to god, there's so many commonalities. I know, 290 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:57.559 don't don't come for me. But when you look at Tom now with his 291 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:03.160 old man each blonde hair and his bowling shirts or whatever, nineteen fifties bullshit, 292 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:06.880 he's trying to rock right now, I'm yeah, I don't see you 293 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:10.680 being a lothario in bed, honey A freakin is She's no, Oh my 294 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:15.279 god. I've gotten so many dms like online and everything and on our ig 295 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.839 and even in my personal Instagram. I have this one friend that her and 296 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:21.319 I talk about this shit in Bravo. She loves Bravo. You have a 297 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:25.359 friend other than me? Yeah, who you know her? She lives here, 298 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:27.440 but I never see her and everything. But anyway, she was telling 299 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:30.519 me, She's like, yeah, I think Schwartz is like totally a conventionally 300 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:33.839 attractive guy, Like he's totally my type. And I'm like, really, 301 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:37.640 I guess that's great for you. He looks like a soft guy, like 302 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:40.960 a soft boy tots. Yeah, but if he's good in bed, he's 303 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:45.839 a lothario with that broken dick. I mean, yikes. Anyway, I 304 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:48.880 just wanted to pass that on. That is what Joe said. And I 305 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:52.680 thought this scene with Joe it's not Joe but Schwartz and Katie. I thought 306 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:56.759 that was really sweet. Yeah, it was very interesting. Yeah. And 307 00:20:56.799 --> 00:21:00.599 then we have Brack and Sheena on their anniversary dinner and they're gonna bang that 308 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:04.480 night. Totally are they in the hotel? She brought toys but plugs and 309 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:08.680 stuff. My thing is, hi, sweetie, I mentioned my thing is 310 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:11.920 didn't we see in a preview? I don't know whether it was at the 311 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:17.519 top of the season. Like this scene when they are at this dinner and 312 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:19.960 Sina saying something like, I don't know if we're gonna make it for forever. 313 00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:25.079 Yes, that was in a preview that was from that night. Yeah, 314 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:26.680 and we don't see that. Why didn't we see that? I hate 315 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.200 when editors do that. That's what I'm saying. I hate when editors put 316 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:33.680 shit into previews and then don't show it. I know it would have been 317 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:38.000 a much more entertaining episode if we got to see some conflict between Brock and 318 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:41.559 Cheeta. But no, I mean, it was kind of a wholesome dinner. 319 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:44.680 They're just talking about their relationship, how they need to spend more one 320 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:47.279 on one time with each other because I got a baby and they ain't banging 321 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:49.480 enough, you know, not having crazy enough sex. And then they're talking 322 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:52.680 about kids and she breaks down because she's like, you know, you do 323 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:56.319 so much for me. I want you to know that, and this is 324 00:21:56.359 --> 00:22:00.240 your second chance of being a father, and I'm snory. Well, I 325 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.599 don't care. I thought Brock breaking down about his kids. I thought that 326 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:07.079 was kind of interesting. I don't care. All right, Fine, we 327 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:07.880 won't talk about it. Then you know, we can talk about it. 328 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:11.359 You know, I'm fine to talk about it. I'm just like we've already 329 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:14.920 talked about this, though we talked about it last week, they were talking 330 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:18.559 about it again. Yes, we've talked about this, how he left Australia 331 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:19.960 to come to America to make a life for himself. I'm like, you're 332 00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:25.319 leaving another first world country to come to a different first world countries that you 333 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:26.720 can make a life for yourself. Make it make sense. Why didn't Why 334 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:33.319 wouldn't you want to be with your kids from your loins in your home country 335 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:36.319 and do what you need to do over there. Yeah, whatever, Like 336 00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:40.079 we've already kind of talked about this, but yeah, so I was snoring, 337 00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:44.000 but I I'm sorry, we can talk about it. Well, No, 338 00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:45.759 I just thought it was interesting that he reflected on it a little bit 339 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:49.759 and he cried, and he's like, I look back on my nineteen year 340 00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:52.960 old self, and I think I was a fucking idiot, and I am 341 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:56.240 trying my best to work on my relationship with my older two kids if they 342 00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:59.319 would have me, And so I kind of, you know, I felt 343 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:03.880 for him there. At least he's acknowledging his mistakes for being a bad father. 344 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:04.920 But you know, maybe it's all for show. I don't know, 345 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:07.759 maybe it's all for show. I'm not saying that. I'm just like, 346 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:12.160 I don't know. I mean he also had the domestic violins around the same 347 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:15.200 time that he left, and I'm like, you know, we've been over 348 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:18.960 this and I'm always gonna be side eyeing Brock totally. Yeah. And then 349 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:25.000 we have Schwartz and Sandoval going to get tattoos, and Schwartz talking about all 350 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:30.759 of his horrible tattoo choices. Right Katie's name on his ass, Lisa vander 351 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:33.359 Pump's name. Why because I think he lost to bet Oh and he had 352 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:36.079 to do it, and he ended up doing it, and I don't think 353 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:38.119 Katie was happy about it either. I wouldn't be what the fuck are you 354 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:41.079 doing? And now he's getting his dog's tattooed on his back, which I 355 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:45.759 thought was kind of cute, very cute. Sandoval's falling out of his chair 356 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:48.160 there was pretty funny. All Harder that was great, yep. And then 357 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:55.200 we have James and Ali getting facials and talking about how James doesn't want to 358 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:59.799 travel because he doesn't want to leave his animals, specifically Hippie with just a 359 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:03.240 right, and so Ali has a wedding of one of her very good friends 360 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:08.480 in Ohio coming up, and James had it sounds like previously committed to go 361 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:12.960 with her, but now he's having a bunch of second thoughts because Hippie has 362 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:18.799 been traumatized already by being moved around and then thrown into the pound and rescued, 363 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:23.319 and like he just wants to give Hippie a good solid year of him 364 00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:30.160 being around him, getting comfortable in his house, and he's afraid and he 365 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:33.759 wants to take care of his dog. And I think that's really sweet. 366 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:37.119 I mean, we love animals here. Of course I felt that too, 367 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:38.400 And I'm like, Allie, kind of chill out a little bit. I 368 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:41.960 mean, you can go to the wedding by yourself too, you can just 369 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:44.599 fly over and let James stay at home. But she's like, well, 370 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:48.640 why won't you come with me? And she's getting mad because she's like, 371 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:51.759 we can't just sit at home all the time and not travel or anything. 372 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:53.680 He's like, just give me a little bit. He just got Hippie back 373 00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:56.880 right like two months ago, right, So I mean I felt like she 374 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:00.359 needed to just kind of chill. Yeah. But I can say her point 375 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:03.119 too, because if you told me that you're going to take me to this 376 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:04.519 wedding and like, now all of a sudden, two weeks out, you're 377 00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:07.559 going to say no, Like that's going to disappoint me. And also like 378 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:11.000 how long are we going to do this where you're going to be around all 379 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:15.279 the time, never leaving your house? Right, So I can understand both 380 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.599 sides of it, but it really did give me some insight into James and 381 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:23.319 his depth of feeling for this animal that he does regard as his own for 382 00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:27.799 baby, his own child, which I think really bonds him to Ariana, 383 00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:32.400 who feels the same way about her animals. I'm not going to go there 384 00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:36.920 in my mind with the litter box, but like loves Maya love loves her 385 00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:40.279 dogs and cats, and so I just thought it was really sweet me too. 386 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:44.839 He's a human being, yeah, somewhere deep down there. Yeah. 387 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:47.839 And then we have like they showed the montage though of him being an asshole, 388 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:49.279 like they did. Did you see all that I did? I was 389 00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:56.359 like, oh, bidding on Kristen's door, screaming at this person or that 390 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.599 person. Yeah, he was a pretty terrible person. A lot of that 391 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:03.079 was probably fueled by drugs and alcohol, oh for sure. And we've had 392 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:06.799 a bunch of comments, like on our YouTube and everything, of people saying 393 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:10.440 actually, like Kristen was a piece of shit to him and was like abusive 394 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:11.960 to him. So there's like a lot of stuff. I'm gonna have to 395 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.680 go back and watch the older seasons of VPR. Yeah, I think you 396 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.720 Oh, they're so entertaining and if you like the Valley, you'll like the 397 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:25.319 earlier suns of VPR. Yeah, there's a question about some of the things 398 00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:29.240 that went down between James and Kristen. But like the night of the wedding 399 00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:33.960 where Kristin hits him, it is reported that James hit her first, whoa, 400 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.799 and that there's footage of that that Bravo has not shown. No, 401 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.519 I'm not sure if it's true. But we also have Raquel coming out on 402 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:48.759 her podcast talking more about a domestic violent situation that she was in, alluding 403 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.200 very strongly to it being James. And then we have Kristin talking on her 404 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:56.599 podcast quite a bit as well, saying it's not alleged this shit happened. 405 00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:03.599 He's a domestic abuser. So yeah, that's still swirling around James. Yeah, 406 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:06.720 it makes me worried for Ali if that's the case. I think if 407 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:10.519 he starts drinking again or if he starts drugging again, that's when she's in 408 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:15.000 danger. Girl. Yeah, And then we have kind of like a random 409 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:19.079 little scene of Tom and Ariana at their house. Ariana's facetiming Dan while she's 410 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:23.799 walking on the treadmill exercising, and they're talking about the upcoming San Francisco trip 411 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:30.200 that I guess everybody's invited to because Kyle Chan or whoever he is, invited 412 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.799 everybody for his whiskey thing, and Dan's gonna be there, which I'm very 413 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:40.440 excited to see. I can't wait. But then Sandoval is downstairs while Ariana 414 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:45.720 is facetiming talking with realtors because I guess he is going to sell their house, 415 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.759 and then he's looking for, you know, some dump to live in 416 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.039 himself, right, but like he was talking about a home with like two 417 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:57.039 separate either wings or like two separate buildings for him and for Tom Schwartz. 418 00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:03.559 Yeah, I'm for sure. Yeah, they're gay gay conspiracy. And then 419 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:10.119 we have everybody showing up for brunch at Sir hosted by Jack's, and Lisa 420 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:14.240 vander Pump's there and she's like not happy, no about it at all but 421 00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:18.640 are we really believing that she had no idea whatsoever that Jax was going to 422 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.599 be hosting an event at her own restaurant, right, I didn't really chip 423 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.119 buy that. Yeah. Yeah, And she's like all salty because Jack said 424 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:30.240 a couple of years ago on a podcast that Lisa Vanner Pump has no purpose 425 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:36.720 on the show. She's just I agree to. She's superfluous. She's inserting 426 00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:40.559 herself into these various situations and she does not need to be there. We 427 00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:45.359 all agree. Yeah, But to be fair, these are her restaurants and 428 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.519 this is her show. Exactly created this show. She got all of these 429 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.759 people famous, So I do agree with her when she confronts Jack's about it 430 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.640 when he shows up, and she's like, yeah, I hate you, 431 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.559 You're annoying, and you talked shit about me, so I'm gonna talk shit 432 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.440 back. And I could have said some horrible things about you on this show 433 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.480 and how you're not needed, but I didn't. Even though she's saying it 434 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:11.839 right here, I know that hurt Jacks. Yeah, that hurt him right 435 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:14.680 down in his field ball. Yeah, and we love that though. I 436 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:19.960 love it so egoically. And then on the after show, they were kind 437 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:22.920 of going in a little bit more on LVP, especially Brittany, like how 438 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:27.200 when she was pregnant they never heard hide nor hair from Lisa vander Pump, 439 00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.400 like she had not reached out for a long time. And then I think 440 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.160 he spoke out about it, maybe on a podcast or something, right after 441 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.920 Cruz was born, and then within a couple of hours they got a present 442 00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.680 from Lisa vander pomp which he was, I guess, alleging that it was 443 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:48.279 performative. But I'm like, she's not required, yeah, to keep up 444 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.240 connection communication with you and send you gifts. She doesn't fucking care about you. 445 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:55.680 She's not on your same age demographic. She's way more accomplished than you. 446 00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:59.519 She's already given you a leg up on this planet. If anybody should 447 00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:03.160 be communic kating and making those attempts, it's you. Jack's no for real. 448 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.200 I'm like, nobody would have known who Jax Taylor was if it wasn't 449 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:08.920 for VPR right, like you would have been a literal nobody. A fucking 450 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.599 bartender at one of her restaurants wouldn't have mattered. So I thought that was 451 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.599 kind of stupid. I'm like, why are people talking about Lisa vander Pump. 452 00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:21.000 I'd be like bowing down to her if I was getting rich from her 453 00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:25.640 show personally, and I got to go and stay at her mansion sometimes or 454 00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:29.160 like hopst my sperm donor parties, you know what I mean. It's like 455 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:32.640 she does so much for all these people. Granted she is just a prop 456 00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:36.680 though, right, and she's definitely profiting off of them totally. But yeah, 457 00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:40.079 it was just an interesting scene, very interesting. And then Jack's heads 458 00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.960 over to the girls because like Arianna and Katie and all of them are sitting 459 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.720 at their own table, and this is where he tells Ariana, like, 460 00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:51.039 hey, Schwartz might move into your house. Schwartz had told him like five 461 00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:53.640 minutes earlier, like don't say anything to anybody, but like this is what 462 00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:59.000 me and Tom are talking about. And then he immediately goes and tells Arianna 463 00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.519 amazing, I like I don't give him shit, Like if I can get 464 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:06.359 out of this house, if I can get what I have coming to me, 465 00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:08.359 like he can do whatever the fuck he wants, and something about Mojo 466 00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.920 Jojo and some Infinity house. I don't know what any of that means. 467 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:15.920 I could care fucking lesson me too, and then James and sand of all 468 00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:21.240 talk again a little bit and they're he's calling him out again for being an 469 00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:25.480 egomaniac, and I'm just I love that energy from James, like just calling 470 00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.480 Sandoval out on his bullshit. YEP, because I do think Ariana was right 471 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.279 a couple episodes ago where she's like, the men kind of have to call 472 00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.279 him out on his crap because he's not going to listen to anybody else. 473 00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:38.000 But I don't think Sandoval listens to the guys either, right, And I 474 00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.000 don't think he wants to go toe to toe with James because I think out 475 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.119 of all of the guys in the group, James is the one who does 476 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.319 not give a fuck and we'll take it there every single time. And I 477 00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:51.000 just love James being i don't know, ten years younger than domsand of all 478 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:55.079 giving him lessons on morality and how to be an adult. When James has 479 00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.680 his history of like possible to get me and being a drunk asshole too, 480 00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:02.880 I think that's hilario. It's amazing. It's so great. And then last 481 00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:07.000 but not least, we have the pool party, Yeah, at James and 482 00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:12.519 Allie's house, so everybody shows up Sandival's there, Arianna's there, She's there. 483 00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.799 Everybody's having like a fun time whatever. Katie starts off by telling the 484 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:21.839 girls the tea with Ali and James while Ali's not in the room. I'm 485 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.160 like, girl, stop right, But then James barges in, right, 486 00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:28.839 and he's like, what do y'all talk about? And Kitti, he's like, 487 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:30.920 yeah, talking about how you're a little bit and you won't go travel 488 00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:35.440 because you're worried about Hippie and you need to like kind of chill out a 489 00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:39.160 little bit, which I thought was really presumptuous of someone, I mean and 490 00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:43.759 like interjecting on their relationship. But then of course that's what they're supposed to 491 00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:45.440 do. It's part of their jobs. Yeah, But what I thought was 492 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:50.839 really sweet was seeing James b so very honest, like I said at the 493 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.160 top of this episode, like being so very honest about what he's worried about, 494 00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:58.079 how he feels for his dog. This is my literal fur baby child, 495 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.839 and so I don't want to just bannon him. I worry about him. 496 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:05.640 And as soon as he was vulnerable, you can see both Arianna and 497 00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:09.119 Katie change their energy, Like Arianna's reaching across and she's like, I totally 498 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:14.559 understand. Katie's like I totally understand, you know, and we want to 499 00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:19.079 be here for you. But then there's Laala, this bitch, and in 500 00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:24.680 her soft era, yeah, decides to start taking him to task for not 501 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:28.720 going to the wedding and like coming down hard on him. I'm like, 502 00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.279 this guy is breaking down in tears. This is not the time to be 503 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:35.880 hard on him, right, Soften yourself, like you say you're trying to 504 00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:40.200 do Allah exactly. She gets Hella defensive because he's like comparing it to like 505 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:44.680 finding childcare and stuff like that, and Lala's like, well, of course 506 00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:46.640 I would know what that's like, but like, shut the fuck up. 507 00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:52.480 Like she gets so irrationally mad, and then in her talking head is like, 508 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:57.640 I think James comes first in the relationship with him and Ali, and 509 00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:01.920 men should never come first in a reallytionship, Edgar. So that is Laala's 510 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:08.519 bitterness speaking right, because she's still so reactive about Randal Emmett and what Randal 511 00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:13.199 did to her and what she also did to herself by being in a relationship 512 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.400 with that piece of shit. So she's still living in reaction and comparing absolutely 513 00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:21.000 everything to that and she thinks at this point in her life, at thirty 514 00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.159 one or thirty two years old, that she would never ever place a man 515 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:29.280 above her again. But like the reality is in any relationship that it's not 516 00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.360 supposed to be one person ahead of the other. It's supposed to be both 517 00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:36.119 parties walking side by side. But every now and again you do have to 518 00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:38.960 place more focused on one partner over the other based on what the needs are 519 00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:43.719 in the moment. And that's what we do in relationships, and that's called 520 00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:45.280 love of course. Like if my husband needs me, he needs more of 521 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:49.960 my time, he needs more of my resources because he's going through something, 522 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:52.960 then yes, he comes before my needs in that moment because that's what I 523 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.320 want to do in my relationship, and that's I think what we should do 524 00:34:55.360 --> 00:35:00.760 in a healthy relationship. So Lala has got it so twist. And this 525 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:05.639 goes back to her saying she does not want to go to conventional therapy because 526 00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:09.639 she thinks it's a bunch of horseshit and she doesn't trust psychologists and therapists, 527 00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:15.559 and so she is the one who is initiating and administering her own healing journey. 528 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:20.519 I'm like the lunatics are in charge of the asylum. Like, this 529 00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:22.960 is why you're so fucked up, Lala, because you're not actually getting help. 530 00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:27.360 Yes, you don't know how a healthy relationship works, La La Nope, 531 00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:30.280 and you think that like your sobriety is good enough for your enlightenment and 532 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.480 your soft era, but like, girl, no, you need fucking therapy, 533 00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:39.280 especially if you were with a literal toad man for like years and you 534 00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:44.159 say that you love him and you had a fucking kid with him, and 535 00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:45.679 then now you're all. Like I said before we started filming this, I 536 00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:52.840 think she's so fucked up because she can't even conceive that this ugliest guy would 537 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:57.519 cheat on someone like her who's a literal goddess. Like I just I don't, 538 00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.760 I don't know, she's messed up. I thought that comment was really 539 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:05.679 inappropriate, especially when James is literally crying in front of everybody and showing the 540 00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:10.360 vulnerability, And it's just another example of both her and Sheena making everything about 541 00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:14.320 themselves, like not everything is about you. And we kind of see this 542 00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.119 happen with Sheena in just a little while when she has her fight with Tom 543 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:22.599 Sandoval. But before we get there, we have the altercation between Katie and 544 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:25.719 Jack's, and I thought this was really interesting, and I was reading some 545 00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:31.559 commentary online where people were pointing out how it was really interesting that Tom Schwartz 546 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:37.280 goes to get Jack's so Jax can go and see Katie right knowing that Jax 547 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:42.079 has a problem with Katie. Everybody knows Jax doesn't like Katie, and so 548 00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:49.480 Tom Schwartz is setting it up and then he takes Jack's over to Katie and 549 00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:53.599 then he walks away. He goes to the background. That was weird, 550 00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:58.280 and Jax comes for Katie, and of course Katie is giving as good as 551 00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:01.000 she can get, like Katie's holding her own. But the one guy who 552 00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:05.920 stands up for Katie is James. He stands right next to her. That's 553 00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.320 where Tom Schwartz should be standing right next to Katie. But no, he's 554 00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:13.679 in the fucking background because I think he likes to watch when others pile on 555 00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.559 Katie. Ooh, that's so fucking He has always been like that, really, 556 00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:20.440 yes, and there have been so many times when he has not stood 557 00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:22.639 up for her. Really, So it's James that's standing up for Katie while 558 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:27.639 Jacks tries to attack her. But he can't because Katie doesn't give a fuck. 559 00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:29.840 No, you can't attack me if I don't care about your opinion, 560 00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.559 Honey, you can say whatever you want. It's not gonna change my experience. 561 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:37.079 Yes, I loved Katie standing up to Jacks because she's literally just been 562 00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:38.440 like, I don't fucking like you, dude, Like, I literally don't 563 00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:43.079 care. I'm just repeating what the internet is saying that you're a cheating ass 564 00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:46.239 ho and it's true. And Jackson gets all fucking triggered because he's like, 565 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.400 well, that's my wy, that's mine. What about Britty? Don't you 566 00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.960 care about Brittany? And she's like, no, I haven't heard from Brittany 567 00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.480 forever. Why would I care about her. I don't care about any of 568 00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.199 you. Yes, Like, okay, well there it is, Jax. 569 00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.440 You have no power or in this conversation none and he sputters to a close. 570 00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:06.920 He does, yep, And Katie and her talking head said something very 571 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:09.440 poignant where she's like, you know, the more somebody says that they've got 572 00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:13.440 it all together and they've done so much work and healing, the less of 573 00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:15.280 that they are. And she was saying that in reference to Jack's but I'm 574 00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:20.880 like also thinking she's saying that to like La La. Yeah, yep, 575 00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:23.960 that was really good. And then we have like Schwartz and Ariana talking about 576 00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:28.519 him moving in, and I thought it was crazy because he talks about how 577 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:34.760 he can't afford the mortgage payment and like, if Tom Sandoval had to refi 578 00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:37.519 their house, it would be like a twenty two thousand dollars payment. I'm 579 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:42.800 like, yeah, I can. I can't even conceive of a world where 580 00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:45.239 no, nor would I like even if I have the money, nor would 581 00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:50.000 I want to absolutely not live in la and pay that kind of money. 582 00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.119 I would live in Montana on a ranch or something. Facts. But that's 583 00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:57.480 just wild, absolutely insane. Yeah, it's kind of nice seeing Ariana and 584 00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.760 Tom Schwartz be on like good terms though kind of chat and she's like, 585 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:04.320 I literally don't care if you guys live together. It's fine, Like I 586 00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.400 want to run me my money, yeah, and shut the fuck up exactly. 587 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:15.000 Then we have the infamous scene with Sena, Shay and Sandbaal Yes, 588 00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:19.000 arguing and yelling at each other. Yes, But the way that it starts 589 00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.639 is Shina is telling the group like, hey, I want to leave, 590 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:24.599 I want to go put someummer moon down to bed. It's that time Brock 591 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:30.199 in his fucking pool or in the polk speedo again, same one as Tahoe. 592 00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:36.000 I am still opposed. I literally get with him. He starts getting 593 00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:38.320 fucking mad. He's like, why can't we just have fun? Why can't 594 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.360 we just stay here? Like why do we have to leave? Let the 595 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:44.920 nanny do it? And she is like yelling at him in front of everybody, 596 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.159 being like, I want to have this moment with our daughter, so 597 00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:51.559 let's fucking leave, Like I want I want to talk my daughter in like 598 00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:53.840 we're not gonna always be able to do this and so this is very important 599 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:57.360 to me. Yeah, and I thought that was totally valid. But then 600 00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.320 before leaving, she goes to talk to say Anial and I think Kyle Chan's 601 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:05.519 there, Yes, nobody cares about him, but she I think she kind 602 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:09.079 of brings up like the song. She's like, Apple, Apple, I 603 00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:15.199 made a song. I'm gonna sing it in San Francisco. So have you 604 00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.679 heard my song yet? And Sandoval's like yeah, and it fuck it sucks. 605 00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:21.719 He's like, so, well, yeah, he was a little bit 606 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:24.000 more low key than he was at Tom Tom, Like he got really mad 607 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:27.599 at Tom Tom last week and he stormed out like he was a little bit 608 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.920 more low key, but he's like, yeah, I don't appreciate the fact 609 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:36.280 that you continue to profit off of my page. Boo hoo. And you 610 00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:38.320 know, now there's a song. There were all of these podcasts, and 611 00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:40.679 she had to her credit is like, you know what, that's fair, 612 00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:45.239 Like I really did profit a lot. I really. I don't want to 613 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.519 use the word exploit because I don't recall what she said, but she exploited 614 00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.360 the issue so that she could make a lot of money. But then we 615 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.239 don't be grudual for that, because why wouldn't you. But Tom's a little 616 00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:59.800 salty about it, and so she seems to acknowledge that a little bit. 617 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:01.639 And then she's like, but also I can write a song about this, 618 00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:05.840 like it's fine. And it did impact me. I'm a part of this 619 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.800 friend group. Yeah, this had a huge impact on me. In fact, 620 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:14.199 And she was talking earlier with the girls or somebody about her intrusive thoughts. 621 00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:15.800 I'm trying to remember it was with Brittany right when they were sitting down 622 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:20.320 about her intrusive thoughts, Yeah, and how they're really bad and so in 623 00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:23.679 this moment, she starts talking about how what Tom Sandival did actually had a 624 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:28.800 big effect on her, because now when Brock walks into a room or Lalla 625 00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:31.039 walks into a room, she notices how their eyes light up, and she 626 00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:35.159 immediately thinks, well, is he going to do that to me? And 627 00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:39.559 she's like, and that's because of you, Tom Sandoval. And I object 628 00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:45.880 to that because you have to take ownership and accountability over your own mental health, 629 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:51.119 oh for sure. And just because Tom made this terrible mistake and he 630 00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:59.199 absolutely perpetrated the ultimate betrayal upon your best friend doesn't equate to your husband cheating 631 00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:04.039 on you as well, should not lend to this kind of extreme anxiety in 632 00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.119 OCD that she seems to have. And when she was talking to Brittany, 633 00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:09.360 she was also mentioning that she had been put on zoloft right. She was 634 00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:12.679 on it for like a month or something, right, and it helped her, 635 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:15.559 but it also made her really tired, and because of all of these 636 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:20.079 songs that she's cutting in podcasts that she's making about scandabal, yeah, she 637 00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:23.599 had to stop taking it because she needed her energy. But I was just 638 00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:28.599 like, hmm, you can't really put that on Tom Sandvall, Yes, 639 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.880 it did inform your experience and struggling with it, but that doesn't make it 640 00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.480 his fault. Yeah, and I mean he does call her out for it. 641 00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:38.440 He's like, you're not the victim, like you're you're acting like you're 642 00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:42.840 more of a victim than Ariana, which I thought was a fair point. 643 00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:45.440 I mean, you're not a victim, she know, Like, I get 644 00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.039 that this is your friend and all that stuff, and I get that this 645 00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.559 was really hard for ever put out her restraining order on Well, because you 646 00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:57.960 hit her exactly. That's why though. It's because you probably actually hit her, 647 00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:00.519 so take responsibility for that, which you can't do because there would be 648 00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:05.559 legal ramification for sure. Yeah. So yeah, she was affected by it, 649 00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:07.000 we get it. But yeah, you're not the victim. So Tom 650 00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:12.280 Sanivil was right in that instance. But then this is where tensions start to 651 00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.800 get really high and she starts raising her voice. Tom gets more and more 652 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:20.800 defensive, and I can't remember everything else that was said, but the one 653 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:22.920 comment that blows everything up is he tells her, well, you were the 654 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:29.360 other woman in a relationship too, and that's when she comes back, fuck 655 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.440 you, Tom, And that was I was twenty one years old when that 656 00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:37.400 happened, and you know that I didn't know that he was married. And 657 00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:42.199 she's screaming at him, and Tom's i think, yelling back at her, 658 00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:45.920 although I'm not really hearing anything. I just see Brock come up and put 659 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:49.679 his hand on Tom's shoulder and push him away. Yeah, kind of lean 660 00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:51.800 in and say, look, she was in her twenties. Man, that's 661 00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:53.960 really different than you being in your forties. Yeah. Like Brock got in 662 00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:58.360 the middle of that right away, which I really respect. I don't think 663 00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.519 Tom Sandoval is going to be coming for brockda anytime soon. No, not 664 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.480 a physical level, no, man, But she does popping off. She 665 00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.159 is up set, yes, which I mean I thought that was fair. 666 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:12.559 Like I think it's fucked up that every time Sandoval gets confronted with anybody's feelings 667 00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:15.280 about scandival, he always has to turn it back around on other people. 668 00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:19.800 And that's what everyone has a problem with. It's like we've said this before, 669 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.440 You've said this on the pod, that he can never sit in the 670 00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:27.159 responsibility, like he can never sit in the shame of what he did. 671 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:29.599 He's always got to fucking put it back on him. He's always got to 672 00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:31.719 go into the archives. And then he has the audacity to say something like, 673 00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:36.000 well, she's going into the archives. It's been six months, what 674 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.679 are you talking about. The reverberations of what it is that you did are 675 00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:42.960 still quite evident in this group, Like, what do you mean just six 676 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.760 months ago? Everybody is still feeling this, Tom, just because you're over 677 00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:49.239 it. And that's because you're dead inside, which you would have to be 678 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.280 to do something like that to Ariana. Doesn't mean that everybody else is as 679 00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:54.719 well, exactly, So two things can be true at once. Yep, 680 00:44:55.199 --> 00:45:00.360 Shena is playing the victim. Yeah, and Shina doesn't have the right method 681 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.559 or process yet to help with her mentals because she's got too much anxiety. 682 00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:09.199 She's very worried, she's very fearful, she's got OCD like she needs help, 683 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:14.320 and that's probably lending itself to all of these other things that are making 684 00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:16.519 it hard for her to be the good old Sheena that we all know. 685 00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:21.159 So that is on her. Yeah, that's not Tom Sannibal. But at 686 00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:23.840 the same time, Tom Sanible, Jesus Christ, can't you just take responsibility 687 00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:27.360 in a moment for real? Can't you just say, look, I mean, 688 00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:30.239 I understand you made the song Apples and I don't necessarily like it, 689 00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.840 but that's your point of view, and you have every right to do it, 690 00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:36.679 and let's just leave it there. Yeah, why can't you be the 691 00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:40.239 bigger person because he's not. Yeah, he's a piece of shit. Yeah, 692 00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:43.760 he's a forty year old loser. He's always going to be changing on 693 00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:47.519 everybody. Two even worse, and he's got a bad cover band forty three. 694 00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:52.679 He's ruined. His life is ruined because of scannabal because of his own 695 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:57.400 mistake, and he can't admit that to himself because to admit that to yourself 696 00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.880 would mean that you have to take responsibility and actually own up to your actions. 697 00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:06.559 But to do that requires humility and a soul introspection. Yeah, and 698 00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.039 the ability to like self reflect. Right, he just doesn't. I'm I'm 699 00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:14.000 actually shocked at his inability to be able to self reflect, even on the 700 00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.800 most minute level. Like he can't do it at all. Everybody else can 701 00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:20.719 see it, Even James can see it, Even Tom Schwartz can see it. 702 00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:22.199 All of these people are telling him, like, you need to do 703 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:24.639 it this way, you need to take ownership. But like he can't do 704 00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:28.639 it. And that's what's crazy, is like this friend group is so fake 705 00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:34.159 and so hypocritical, and they're like vapid af and all of these fake ass 706 00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:37.960 people are like looking at this piece of shit narc and they're like, dude, 707 00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:42.239 just say you're sorry, Just take ownership for it, like it's not 708 00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:45.440 that hard. Just suck it up. And he can't do it. And 709 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:49.159 so it's just interesting to me, like psychologically, all these fake ass people 710 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.880 being like, aghast that you can't take it down. I actually think he's 711 00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:57.239 mad. I think he is very mad because when you look at his life 712 00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:01.360 before Scanned, of all, he had Tom Sandoval and the most extras and 713 00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:06.360 even though he can't fucking sing and as pitchy as fuck, he had so 714 00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:08.280 many crowds coming out to all of his shows. He was very successful. 715 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.880 He had a new bar, he had a girl, right, Yeah, 716 00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:15.320 he was popular. He was on this this show. But now after Scandival, 717 00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:21.000 nobody's really coming out to see Tom Sandival and the most extras unless it's 718 00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:22.920 to them, and they're losing your fucking house. You no longer have the 719 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:28.639 queen Ariana, you don't have anybody. Everybody hates you. And internally you 720 00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:30.960 don't think it's your fault. Internally, you think you're justified to have cheated 721 00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:35.599 on your girlfriend. So he's mad. That's why he can't help himself, 722 00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:37.960 but to strike out and strike back at all these people because he didn't he 723 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:42.280 doesn't think that he did anything wrong. That's what's so crazy to me. 724 00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:45.559 I'm like that, he's like a case study, straight up, like Wow, 725 00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:50.719 I can't how you can live your life in such denial is wild to 726 00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.119 me. But that's how the episode ends. Sheena leaves and she's pissed off, 727 00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:58.400 crying. She apologizes to Ali, I'm sorry for yelling at your house, 728 00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:00.840 and then it's to be continue, right, So I hope we get 729 00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:05.079 to see more of the fight, maybe more people blow up at Sandoval. 730 00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:08.599 I don't know. I can't wait for San Francisco personally, right, Well, 731 00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:14.599 you want to see Dan and potentially set a confrontation with Tom Sandoval, 732 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:21.239 Yeah, because I don't recall who said to Dan that they think Tom Sandival 733 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:22.880 is going to try and shake his hand, yeah, and Dan's like, 734 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:28.320 yeah, that's not gonna happen. Yeah, I definitely want to see how 735 00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:30.639 that goes down. I can't wait I hope that's the next episode me as 736 00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:35.400 well. I hope we don't get like another filler episode before that we might, 737 00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:39.960 So any final thoughts about then the pumperou Well, this episode was kind 738 00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:43.639 of lacking for me. Yeah, you know what, this whole season has 739 00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:45.719 been kind of lacking. I really thought, Beatrice that this was going to 740 00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:51.639 pop off. Like the opportunity I think production had to make this such a 741 00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:57.079 killer season is just going down the tubes totally. They really haven't availed themselves 742 00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:00.840 of like all the cool opportunities to get into these different style lines. I 743 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:05.440 know, but you know what is popping off though, The Valley, which 744 00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:07.400 what I was just gonna say, We're probably gonna say the same thing. 745 00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:12.519 Yeah, we are about to get into and we're about to talk about but 746 00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:15.000 I just have to say that it's infinitely more entertaining than vander Pump Rules. 747 00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:19.519 Like if I'm a cast member like a Lalla or a Kadie on vander Pump 748 00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:22.880 Rules. After having been on VPR for so many years and I'm seeing how 749 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:28.599 popular The Valley is season one, and what a dud this season of VPR 750 00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:30.400 is, I'd be feeling like shit, I know, and like well, 751 00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:34.159 I wonder if Sheena, the Clout, Goblin and Brock are gonna be like, 752 00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:36.239 can we go on the Valley? No, we don't want you, 753 00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.239 because you guys are producing yourself. And the reason that the Valley is so 754 00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:43.679 great is because you have enough people on the cast that aren't producing themselves. 755 00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:46.320 They think they are, like Jesse and Michelle think that they're producing themselves, 756 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.199 but they're not because they don't know how to do it see VPR. They've 757 00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.280 had year after year after year to learn how to do that. That's why 758 00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.239 it's fucking boring. And that's why we have Ariana saying like, if I 759 00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:59.400 can be authentic, if we can get real out here in these streets, 760 00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:00.719 I will come back. But if not, that's a no. Yeah. 761 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:04.960 That's a good point that they know how to produce themselves. So yeah, 762 00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.519 I love in the Valley. I can't wait to get into that in this 763 00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:10.000 episode. Girl. Well, then let's wind it down, let's do it. 764 00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:14.440 Is there anything else that we need to say to these beautiful raccoons, 765 00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:16.239 Beatrice, Well, if you love our podcast, I sure hope you go 766 00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:22.159 to your favorite podcast platform and leave us a glowing five star review. It 767 00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.920 really helps us grow the pod and get more famous, so we really appreciate 768 00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:29.159 it. Thank you very much. We will be back next week to talk 769 00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.800 seeking sister. Why make sure that you are hanging out with us for that 770 00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:37.480 because it's a lot of fun. It's very wacky. But until then, 771 00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:42.239 please do not forget that we have nothing but love for you and peace. 772 00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:44.559 Oh money by guys