What is going on? Everybody? Happy Wednesday, Happy Wednesday. Thank you
for joining me for another BEGI Cast Wednesday Live podcast. You guys noticed I
swapped up the look a little bit. I gave Tim Poole his beanie back,
I got my hair cut, and you know, this is where we're
at tonight, guys. So it's just been hot as hell here in Colorado,
like it has been the past few weeks. But nonetheless, let's dive
right into it. I've got a dream team here with me tonight, two
very very special guests I'm about to bring on, you know who kind of
see things the way we're seeing them at this point in time. I made
a post earlier today on X talking about how something very strange has happened in
the conspiracy community, especially for individuals who've been following it for a long time,
such as myself and the two people I'm going to bring on, and
we're gonna break down exactly what the hell is so strange and what's going on.
So first I want to welcome to the stage Ride. He's been on
the show before. What's up Man? Thanks again for being here tonight.
What's up, dude? I'm excited to be here, my friend, I
got my kick him in the caball sunglasses going on. I can only kick
him in the caballs with these sunglasses on. And we're in a once in
a lifetime show here today with my good friend Shane and you. So I'm
very much looking forward to it. Thank you, man. And I got
mister Shane Sador. He has not been on my show, but I have
been on his. And welcome to your first time here. Man. How's
it going? Absolutely spectacularly if that's a real word. If it's not,
is now, well just created it, dude, I'm telling you. Man.
So all right, guys, it's it's a pleasure to have you here.
Let's dive right into this. I mean, so both of you guys
are very similar to me. You know, you have been observing this situation
for quite some time, and you've seen a lot of weirdness to emerge from
this, especially on the side of the conspiracy and the truth or community.
And to me, it seems like, you know, at a time,
we had, at least in my eyes, we had somewhat before twenty twenty,
what I would call a somewhat unified, somewhat credible community at that point,
I mean, there were somewhat people trying to do the right things,
but you know, of course we had things here and there. But then
it seems like after twenty twenty or even potentially before, we had a lot
of weird things get thrown into the mix and the water's muddy, it seems
to be. So let's start off with Wright, Wright, what do you
think is going on? Man? What do you think? Why do you
think the deterioration of the conspiracy slash truther or community has has become what it
is and why do you think it's almost kind of assimilated itself into almost a
mainstream media kind of category at this point, Well, it's because we are
the media now, like mainstream media has failed, it is not pulling in
the numbers that it used to pull in, and now we are the media.
And it's almost exactly like what's happening with regular TV as well. You
know, with all the streaming services and stuff like it used to be regular
TV. You sit down and you watch it at a specific time. If
you don't watch it at a specific time, you're not able to see it
anymore, or you have to wait a while to see it. And what
they did is they took for a really cheap price. They were like,
okay, well six ninety nine you can get Netflix. You know, that's
where the baseline Netflix started out, was six ninety nine around that area,
because I remember when I first got it, when it first came out,
And now they've switched that, they've turned that into now you have to pay
more to get that premium Netflix, but they've given you a base here,
and the base here is with ads, right, and what is regular TV?
Regular TV made money because of the ads made money because of everything they
could be promoted on that TV show, on the news, on all of
those watching a movie on regular TV. And now for the same price that
you were getting before, now you get the ad version of it, you
know. And that's how they've all done. That's how like Peacock is,
That's how Hulu is, That's how Netflix is, That's how HBO is.
You get the low tier. You can pay the same amount that it was
when it first started. But now you're gonna get bombarded with freaking stupid pharmaceutical
ads, cancer ads, HPV, freaking all these ridiculous pharmaceutical things that have
absolutely nothing. I've never had any either of you ever watched an AD on
TV and then thought, oh, I immediately need to go ask my doctor
about this. You know how at the end of every pharmaceutical commercial that like,
ask your doctor about luxeber, actual doctor, if this is right for
you. Has anybody ever watched an AD and then immediately win and ask their
doctor if they can be put on this medication. It's the most ridiculous thing
that I've ever heard, Like, and I've never washed an ad either where
I want to go buy that product. Like, no bounty commercial has ever
convinced me to buy a bounty not toilet paper but tile paper. You know,
Don dishwashing liquid has never made me want to wash off a freaking bird
that's been involved in an oil spill, you know, like Don dishwashing commercials
wash everything besides the dishes. I know, you're it's almost like, I
want to say, the pharmaceutical it's like a glorified trap house the pharmaceutical commercials
man. Because I'll always remember the Robin Williams skit where he's like talking about
his doctor coming up to him like, hey, hey, Robin, I
got this new shit I want you to try. Let me let me slide
you a sample pack of this and if you really like this, you know,
call me and I'll hook you up. It's like it's almost like it's
like a glorified trap house when we're talking about that kind of stuff, I
mean, or glorified drug dealing. Honestly, in my opinion, yeah,
that's what it really seems like. And I kind of went off on a
little tangent there on on media and stuff, but that's really how it is.
But when it comes to the community, we've seen this evolving nature of
the community. And I was listening back in like the early two thousands and
and how far it's gone, and you know, let's let's just make conspiracies
interesting again. There's literally not it's it's a regurgitation after regurgitation. It's old
information is being regurgitated for a new group of people. I me and Shane
have talked about this several times on my show. And it's it's cern,
it's harp, it's uh Tartaria, it's the World's Fairs, it's Antarctica has
directed energy weapons. It's like we get these things that pop up, like
every couple of months, there's some kind of new event that is then related
back to one of those five things, and it's just it's a constant revolving
door of those things. And then people will dig up old videos that people
have seen and heard a thousand times that's been into this community for a really
long time, and then repost them as if it's something brand new, like
all the time. I just seen that one guy. I just seen a
video earlier today on Facebook of I forget what that guy's name. It was
like in ninety five or whatever, where he was sitting down and like talking
about the Reptilians. I'm sure, Shane, Shane, you know what I'm
talking about, where he's like the Auctorians came in and it took over the
Reptilions, and then Auctorians didn't do a good enough job and they had to
send in the galactic reinforcements of the Pladians, and then the Pladings came in,
and now the Pladions are in control and the Reptilions are really really really
really strong and powerful and it's like a three hour long conversation. But they've
they just clipped out a little thing of that and then put it online and
then acting like it's something like brand new, and that's just like a common
thing that has just happened over and over again, and the degeneration of the
content within the community is always related to something that's happened before. It's wild.
It seems like it's just consistently be No, I'm with you, it
seems like it's consistently being recycled. And I've noticed this as well that the
things that are getting recycled, they're they're adding like these new nuances, like
you're saying, try to make them seem new, try to make it seem
like it's information that you know, a lot of us haven't heard before.
On top of that, also, man, they're just you know, and
I kind of blame TikTok for this. I don't know if I can completely
blame TikTok for this one hundred percent, but they have. They've been the
ones pumping out like the most ridiculous things like you know, as far as
like the most ridiculous like fear monitoring. I mean, we all talked about
what's going to happen for the EMS test that happened back however long ago,
how it was going to shoot these neutrinos through you and it was gonna you
know, map your body and all the people who got the vaccine, it
was going to activate the nanotechnology inside of them and they were all going to
be good. I know that's where I where I kind of, you know.
I I don't want to place blame on TikTok, because I know it's
a lot of people in the community, but that just seems to be where
it's been. Like focused on that now, Sane. One thing I want
to talk to you about real quick is something that you brought up to me
when I was on your show, about how the conspiracy community has been infiltrated
for quite some time, even before the days of the Internet. So why
don't you elaborate on that a little bit well without going too much into the
weeds, because I know that some of your viewers don't know who I am,
but I've been a whistleblower since I was like twenty sixteen. I come
from what you guys all call the Illuminati, even though that's not the real
word for it, and I used to work doing disinformation for them, specifically
related to UFOs, because they were trying to cover up my lab experimentations and
things like that. And then eventually I got a pretty good look at what
they were doing for this blossoming. It used to be kind of in you
know, conference halls or basements, some dude's basement or maybe a library or
something like that. But then we got the Internet. We started to get
forums and chat rooms and things like that. But back before the Internet even
it was already being infiltrated with basically disinformations. So something that the illuminati did
was dump all of the truth to people from going back, I don't know,
fifty sixty years now, and allowed researchers to do what they do with
it, right, and then steered those people very very carefully towards curated conclusions,
let's put it that way, and then propped up the people who came
to the correct conclusions to start what the original alternative community was, which was
prior to the Internet, right. And then when I started to really look
at it was the early days with like you know, all the early whistleblower
interviews and everything. I don't have name channels and stuff like that, but
like when it went it released in the forums, and I was a moderator
of a popular one things like that, and I was all still working for
them at the time and reporting back to them on what I was seeing,
And at that time I used to fight with him a lot because I thought
we were when I say we the public were smarter than we have turned out
to be with all of this information. But you know, they predicted that
this is what would have happened, right, And I can remember talking to
researchers back in twenty ten about how one of their big plans was to try
and criminalize conspiracy theory and really demonize the alternative community as it was, because
they knew that kind of what writer was just saying, a mainstream alternative community
was coming, right, the intellectual dark Web, people like Joe Rogan,
people like us all kind of combined into one thing. They knew that that
was coming, and so they wanted to make sure that there was so much
mud in the water that we were doing exactly what we've been doing, right,
which is creating conspiracy snowballs and conspiracy burritos and never actually going back and
looking at the center of that snowball and the foundation of the house that we
built on that land and things like that to really find it if any of
this stuff was ever true in the first place. Right, And you know,
I've been saying that for a long time, and people were getting really
mad at me. But you know, year after year after year after year,
there's just more proof than the result that that's exactly what's going on here.
And so since twenty twenty when the thing happened, we've had this big
influx of people waking up, right which the community before that, as you
said, was sort of unified. We had our problems, but we did
have a pretty solid community at that point in time. We were all waiting
for that, right, We were waiting for the event that was going to
wake everybody up, and then we were going to the Promised Land. We
were going to get what we wanted. We but what did we do well?
We we made it so that all those people who came into this world
ended up stuck in a perpetual rabbit hole that they'll never find out of,
because, you know, they've got a handful of truth and a fistful of
you know, getting alien probed on Mars, you know, and they don't
know what Israel. So they could kind of just do this and they go
right back to where they were, right, or they end up ditching that
cult, the mainstream cult, if you will, and just joining one of
the many cults we offer within our community, because we have those too.
We did a great job of building cults within our community. It was really
impressive. It was almost like we were trained to do it or something.
And that's what I'm trying to say, is that we were and yeah,
and now here we are where you know, it was supposed to be the
only kind of safe haven from the mainstream clown show, and now it's just
as much as of a clown show, right. Like writer drops some names
of different things that have gone through, like the QAnon thing. I was
warning about that years before it ever happened, Like this is going to happen.
I don't know what they're going to call it it, but everyone's gonna
love it. It's gonna come up on a forum just like this. It's
gonna seem all mysterious and cryptic, and everyone's gonna buy its nonsense. And
it's gonna be the beginning of the end for us because they're gonna end up
creating domestic terrorism based on that, and here we are we have domestic terrorism
based on that. But I'm still just some guy who you know, I'm
a little bit Chevy Chase today meaning I'm in a little bit of pain and
so I might be a little bit cranky because they're hitting me with the d
w's to mine control me to tell you these things right with a do He's
getting hit with the mountain dew code red. Boy, you can't come back
from the mountain dew code red. He's getting baja blasted, man. But
no, no, Shane, I think you described it perfectly, man,
because yes, you know, we were all talking about the event, like
and we thought that after that event, like it was gonna just be a
whole old new thing. And you are absolutely right, you summed it.
You summed it up perfectly that it was our mentality. But boy were we
wrong. And you know the thing that you brought up about qan on too,
man, is this still going on? You still have people believing this.
I see it on x all the time. They have all these different
qu accounts, man, and they'll post like in forty eight hours, this
is gonna happen or this is the matter, this event's going to occur,
and then you see like all of these people buying into it. Man,
it almost seems like you know, like the the the I guess you could
say that the newer individuals who have quote unquote woken up. They're just dying
to grasp at anything that they possibly can. They're taking advantage of that.
So I mean, onto what the next thing, guys? I mean,
so, what do you think personally? All right, personally at this point
in time, do you feel is the biggest thing that they're doing to muddy
the waters? And I'm gonna honestly say, I feel it's the these the
conspiracy syops like you guys were talking, I call them syops sandwiches this point,
like I think I told told a writer or that. And the reason
why I call it is Siah is this layered like you have you have the
two pieces of bread, which are the sy op, but then you have
the sy op in the lettuce too, and then you have the sy op
and the tomato, and then you get to the meat and the meats full
of sy ops. I mean, what is your guys' opinion? I mean,
where do you think really that this all started to go downhill? Asides
from the potential infiltration, I mean, do you think it's human nature and
human behavior or was there any other kind of driving factors behind it? Well,
to follow up on what she was talking about, which I think was
really important when Sheen said that when you track back all these things to their
original source, you come to the conclusion that they were never real to begin
with. And unfortunately that is the case. I mean, that's one hundred
percent sure. I've done an entire series of UFO doomsday calls on my channel.
I'm doing a series right now on the legends of ufology and going back
and looking at what everybody talk about talks about now within the community, within
the New age community, within the conspiracy community, within ufology. It can
all be tracked back through all of these UFO cults. Everything that they've talked
about before, going as far back as the early thirties is just been changed
and molded and shifted and turned into something just slightly different than what was being
talked about before. And that's a really important thing to understand. And then
when you take into the Paul Bennowitz case and what was done to Paul Benowitz
and the misinformation and the deception surrounding him and what all came up out of
that. You know, so many different things came out of the Paul Benningwitz
case that are still regurgitated to this very day, including a contract with extraterrestrials
and the military that came directly out of this misinformation and deception ran on Paul
Bennowitz from the NSSA and Air Force Office Office of Special Investigations that there's that
the cattle mutilation stuff is connected to aliens and UFOs. That came from Paul
Benowitz as well. Uh a secret underground military facility in New Mexico came from
Paul Bennowitz too, And then it gets shaped and molded and then turned into
something that and then you got Bill Cooper that took that thought from Paul Benowitz
and then turned it into a contract that Eisenhower signed with aliens. It was
no longer the military that signed the contract with the extraterrestrials. It became Eisenhower
that signed the contract with extraterrestrials. And it's just it's unbelieving, and people
don't really want to look at that type of stuff because they've been so locked
into the lore and the mythology of you know, UFOs and aliens, which
UFOs and aliens are a big part of the conspirac community, whether people really
want to recognize it or not. Is. It is a large chunk and
because normally whenever people it's like you can take anything that's been blamed on aliens
and extra tresturials and you can just replace that with humans and you get the
exact same thing. Everything that's been talked about that extra trestrials are doing is
what humans are doing to other humans. Is what governments are doing to their
own people, to the to their own population. It's what the CIA is
doing, It's what the NSA is doing, it's what all these three letter
organizations are doing to their own people. You know, that's like the alien
human hybrids. Okay, well we just had one of the biggest largest border
crisis in US history. What are those people considered. They're considered aliens,
right exactly? Well, if they're right, newcomers, new comers, newcomers,
newcomers into the community. But if we were to if I were to
travel to a different country like Shane, if I were to go to Canada,
I would be considered an alien because I'm not from that land, i
don't live there. I'm an alien to your land. Same as if someone
comes from another country in the United States, they are an alien. And
then what happens when those aliens breed and mix with people from that native land,
they create alien hybrids. Right, It's true. It's true though it's
an alien invasion, but it's not an alien invasion from outer space. It's
an alien invasion from across the border. I would, dude. I'm telling
you and one thing I want everybody to consider about what writers saying. And
you know how I talk about human psychology and in nature a lot on this
channel. I mean that is the psychology of the government. Blame it on
something else. Get people to look in a different direction than what you're doing.
And like I said, I agree with writer. I do think that
a lot of what we see as extraterrestrial narrative that's being perpetuated in the mainstream
is by our government one hundred percent. So I agree with that wholeheartedly.
Shane, what do you think? What do you think is kind of the
worst thing going on with this right now? I know you wanted to talk
about the person we can't talk about, but you can go ahead and talk
about them all you want. Well, definitely, that's not the biggest problem.
But that's not the bigger thing. Far away from the biggest problem.
Even though people like to believe it's the biggest problem. No, yeah,
just kind of following on what writer said, Like he's talked about how the
earliest UFO stories have been adapted over time, But those UFO stories were adapted
from other types of law and folk tale that had to do more with entities
and spirits than it did with aliens too, Like all of those same cults
existed before we had the word alien to throw in there. In fact,
that was just a really clever twist and you know, made people a lot
of money along the way. So this has been something that we've been doing
for a long time because it facilitates cults. Let's just be real about it,
right, and going back to the foundation of things is important, Like
we might have learned recently with mathematics. Let's say that you have the equation
where you have to multiply one times one and then you have to add two.
Well, if you listen to Terrence Howard, then you're going to get
that equation wrong because you're going to multiply one times one wrong, right,
And so even if you add two correctly to that outcome, your answer is
still wrong. And that's the alternative community is like going all the way back
soon said that one times one was two, and we continued all the math
from there, and that was it. And for the most case, that
is true. And what a writer said about aliens. The other thing I
brought up is the reverse of that, which is how long does a species
have to be here before they're just native to this planet? Because when we
talk about the end KNACKI story, if we were to just kind of take
it at face value and they were here for thousands of years, who's the
alien at that point? Didn't they aren't? You know? But this is
just something that we do because it works. And I mean, I do
have firsthand knowledge, but I don't even need to rely on that at this
point in time because it's so obvious to just point to everything as it's happening
and you can see what they're doing. Having a fear of an enemy has
always been important to the country you guys live in, for sure. As
an example, and what was that Reagan speech about how if we had a
one enemy that we could all unite around right then for an enemy from off
world that would cause the But of course we we also really had to get
rid of the communists. We really had to get rid of the Nazis before
that we really needed to get rid of the Communists, and that we really
needed to get rid of the Soviets, right, And how did they use
all of that fear propaganda against their public? We can look at it with
Hindsein now and it's pretty clear all the way that they did that they're they
use aliens in no different capacity. They use it as the same type of
PSIO. And what's even better about that is it it lets them get away
with testing all kinds of stuff that they're not telling us that they're testing,
right, and that they we don't understand, Like we can have a really
early prototype for a NASA outfit land in Alabama one day and have a dis
drop police officer takes some photos of them, and we think that it's an
aliot, kidding writer, things like that mic was muted. Bro, Bro,
I love the Alabama metal man. Stop talking is real, That's what
I mean. It could just as easily have been that. And you know,
with a lot of the stuff that we're seeing now, that's that talking
plasma technology that they've been keeping a secret for a while. That's those unmanned
crafts being driven around drones being driven around by AI that they've been talking about.
And guys, just look at the way that they reveal this stuff like
it comes out of nowhere, right. These things don't come out of nowhere.
They have like a seven to fourteen year period before they could even start
testing it, and then they have to test it for a long time before
it comes out of nowhere. And that's where the programs came in. Was
all of this testing that they were doing, right, and we understand,
like we hear about it in Nazi Germany, right the end of all the
Nazi scientists doing all those it wasn't just them. Russia was doing it,
China was doing Japan was doing what the Americans were doing, the Canadians were
doing, everybody was doing it. Everyone continued doing it too. The only
thing that happened there is we got to take a group of them and distribute
them into all the other places that we're doing it already too. And that
has been what they've been doing all along, and it's leading to all this
technology that we see coming out of nowhere. Right. And you know,
through my experience, I saw thousands of people hooked up to this type of
technology and I know of zero people who went out of space, right,
and since coming out of all of that, I've seen all of that technology
hit the public and I've seen zero people go to space. So, you
know, I don't know what else to say about that. That's interesting,
man, we're going to say right or go right ahead. Well, just
to piggyback off of what she was saying about Canada doing these kinds of experiments,
I mean, it's heavily documented that doctor Hwan Cameron Miguel University in Canada,
who was a mk Ultra contractor. He was being funded by the Cian
and he could do race people's memories through torturous methods. He would drug the
patient, he would electro shock them a sleep deprivation, prolonged sleep through the
use of other drugs like benzo diazepem and a whole host of other barbituate sleep
aids, and then he would implant new memories so we'd erase the person's thoughts
and memories and who they thought that they were through a process that was called
depattering. That just I just listed to things that were done in that deep
patterning process. And then he would do something that's called psychic driving, where
he would go in and the official terminology of what psychic driving is, which
it could be a bunch of different things, when we'll tell you the official
one is that they would put in a looped audio message, so they would
have like a tape recorder. After the subject had been depatterned, they were
taking a tape recorder and with a looped audio message. Anything could have been
on the looped audio message. It could have been you were in a secret
space program fighting aliens in space for twenty years, you got injured, and
you had all this high technology of doing all this stuff, which I think
is the very rudimentary thing of what Sheen is talking about now with the programs.
It's a very rudimentary way of doing it. That's how it was done
in the beginning, was like with a taped audio message to implant thoughts and
ideas and beliefs into the subjects. Had to get them to believe in something
that didn't even happen, So you completely erase their identity, and then you
put a new identity directly into their head. And now you can just you
know, take that and replace it with a TV screen. It's no longer
a tape recorder. Now it's a TV screen, so now they're getting a
visual and an audio message. So that's just uh, you know, putting
it into their head even more. And then you get a device that goes
over their head, and then you also have the screen, so then you're
getting it double even more, and then it turns into some sort of VR
simulated. Virtual reality is the most high tech version of the process that really
slams into the person's psyche all of these false memories and these that's completely false
reality identity that is just driven into their head at enormous levels because they believe
that it's real. And we get the Montreal experiments and things like that thrown
under the bus, just like with the Nazi scientist example, so that people
are like, oh, well, we found out about it, they stopped
doing it. They wouldn't be doing that to all of us, now,
would they, right, Which is where we're at now, is they threw
all that experimentation. I've been saying for a while, like I started to
notice it in around twenty eighteen and really get bad at twenty twenty. But
they've been mk all cheering the public and they're doing a great job of it.
It's working which I'm sure we'll get into too well. I mean that
was just important for me to say because there is sheen. He kind of
jumps to the to the end with the VR and the whole technology aspect,
but there's there's a whole evolution of it. And the evolution of it started
with these mk Ultra programs that were being done in Canada, being done in
the United States, being done at universities. I mean whole wings of hospitals
were open to do these run these experimentations on these people. In Another misnomer
is that it was just all LSD. It wasn't all just LSD. There
was reportedly at least one hundred and fifty drugs that was being tested on these
patients. And Sidney Gottlieb, which was the face of the Chao Altri programs
in the United States before it was supposedly shut down, had a brother and
his brother's name was David Gottlieb, and he was a plant biologist. Why
has nobody looked into that. You got a guy that's ahead of the CIA
that is doing all this experimentation on all these people using all these different substances,
normally CIA designer drugs and his brother is a plant biologist. That is
interesting. The psychology I was pointing to is like what writers said about the
evolution. They threw it under the bus early right, like at maybe at
the TV screens like clockwork orange style is where they kind of threw it under
the bus. They never mentioned, you know, everything that followed that,
which has been progressive and does get to like the type of technology that they're
talking about having now right, Like once again, it didn't come out of
nowhere, but I'll let you continue. No, no, no, man,
that's that was That was no, And that's that's useful information. I
think it really brings to light you know, the where why. I mean,
I've talked about how we have to have discernment with everything at this point,
you know, we have to really truly I mean and at least in
my eyes, that's part of being a sovereign human being is to to have
this discernment. But it seems like now, you know, getting on to
the next talking point, that all discernment has has has fallen out the window
when it comes to this community. Man, it's it's like we cannot be
honest anymore, we cannot be objective anymore, and you know, and when
we try to bring what we feel is actual, true, objective information to
the table, we're chastised for it. And you know, it seems like
you know, of course, I'm sure you guys can attest this was this
was all done by design. But is there also a human nature component to
this too? Because when we see, you know, when you get a
lot of I'm gonna use a polite word, not to bright people in a
large group, you know what I mean, a lot of interesting things start
to go down, and I think my mentality and group things starts to showcase
itself. So I mean, I mean, what is your your your thoughts
on this writer, because this is something that we talk about a lot.
It's like you cannot be honest in this community and you cannot be objective in
this community anymore. You really can't. And that's the issue is you you
know that you're really onto something when you're just getting attacked and like trolled like
all the time, you know what I mean, Like that's just like a
part of it. You know, you're hitting a nerve with people. Now,
that doesn't mean that everything that you're seeing is one hundred percent truth,
because nobody has one hundred percent truth. You know, at a lot of
times people are talking about a little bit of speculation stuff, which is also
important, but it's also important to say, oh, well, this is
just speculation, this is this is theorizing, this is something that can't be
proven, because if you don't, then you're just contributing to the deception and
the miss and the disinformation that is already out there. It's like what Bill
Moore was talking about that had just covered in this five hour long lecture that
he was giving to the move On conference in nineteen eighty nine. I mean,
he is telling he's laying it all out there. He's like, this
is all not this bullshit nonsense. If you take strip away the fluff,
you basically just have the Paul Benowitz case. And we know what was going
on with the Paul Bennowitz case, and it was an unbelievable thing. And
he hit so many good points in that discussion in that lecture, and people
hated it. They hated it. They booed him, they did not like
it. They wanted him off of the stage. At one point, they
were turning off the lights on Bill Moore to tell him to get off of
the stage and people were like booing, and then they had to get the
runner of the conference to come up there and be like, I'm very disappointed
in some people in this crowd right now, you know, and then letting
them continue. But then they just start turning off the lights. And that's
just like part of the course here. When you strip away a lot of
the nonsense and a lot of the garbage and a lot of the deception and
you get down to the root of it. People don't want to hear it
because it's like a you know, like an awakening that people talk about within
the spiritual community where they feel like that they've been lied to their entire life.
Well, it's like realizing that you've been lied to your entire life,
thinking that you have that you know more things and know more about the way
that the reality works, and then getting hit with a sledgehammer over your head
and then realizing that those years that you spent trying to figure out things is
also a lie. It's a lie within a lie. And they don't want
to go through that process again because if they did, then this community would
kind of just cease to exist, It would no longer exist, and people,
no one would be able to make money off of the community anymore,
no one would be able to go to these conferences and talk about these wacky
space adventures and extraterrestrials and aliens. That means that that is all over and
they don't want that. They have to hang on to that because they've built
their entire personality and their entire life around this narrative. And if people don't
believe that, they can they can believe whatever they want, but they have
a lot of these top speakers in the community have built their entire life and
their foundation, especially people within the Secret Space Program and the Super Soldiers.
That's like all that they have, and it's just it's just a coincidence.
And this isn't me talking bad about anyone. I've I've struggled by entire life.
I mean, I was not born into a rich family. I was
not born into anything. I was moderately poor. But it's just interesting that
all of the people within the Secret Space Program and the Super Soldier people are
dirt poor. They're living off of food stamps, which just again there's nothing
wrong. I've been on the foodstamps before in my life. Okay, I
get it, I understand it, but it's another level when they're trying to
create something that's going to give them a platform in order to make something of
themselves and of their life, when it's based on a lie and it's based
on a fallacy to try and prop themselves up. They're trying to give them
an audience when there's so many different topics out there to discuss other than but
they just double down on the secret Space Program, super Soldier narrative, you
know, hoping for some kind of phrase, hoping for something to boost them
up out of the It's just a grift. It's a giant grift. You
know. It's like, well, why don't you go back and look into
the occult like study the occult study serial killers. Do whatever you can.
There's a lot of other communities that you can get your foot in the door
and other than repeating nonsensical garbage that has no basis in reality. I'm with
you on that, man. I think, I think, you know,
I mean, we see the profiteering and the grifting, you know, constantly,
you know, especially with the fearmongerers, the doomsday individuals. There's one
offhand that I give a lot of shit. I'm not going to name names.
But you know, it's funny how he's he's constantly trying to get us
ready for this cataclysm that's supposed to occur in the year twenty forty when the
Sun's supposed to burp in micro nova at the Earth. But he's really getting
people back into the bipartisan system. He wants you to vote Republican while he's
while he's preaching the h you know, the doomsday cult on top of that.
So I'm with you, man, I see the griff Shane. What's
your what's your response on that? Oh? Man, I think I forgot
the question at this point. It sounds all good. Run, No,
it's all good. So I mean here, we'll start off with you do
on this, man, So let's talk about the you know, because this
is something we've we've talked about a lot. Let's talk about the Trump Biden
thing that's currently at play right now. Do you think I mean, and
I'm sure you could probably answer this is is this a form of MK ultra
that's going on with these with these two candidates, and and if it is,
would you please elaborate so the viewers can understand this because I feel like
this is something i've been trying to say for quite some time and nobody wants
to hear it. This is actually it will help me because I can answer
the last question too, like I've been kind of doing this for a long
time, and you know, I have a story that doesn't have any verifiable
proof for people like I can't you know, sit you down and be like,
this is why I know it. And but I don't rely on just
that to speak because I can still see the rest of the world and make
sense of it. Right. And but going all the way back, one
of the first things before anyone had ever seen my face, and I thought
that that would never happen. Someone's like, well, if you know so
much, tell us something that we don't know. And I'm like, Donald
Trump will be your next president. It's going to change everything and things will
never be the same again. And I elaborated to go on about how like
basically, if you will accept that manage your president, they know they can
do whatever they want to you, and you know they're going to give you
that first four years to see if you finally stand up and say what the
and if you don't, then they're going to continue to be even more absurd.
So what happened four years later, they put a corpse in his place.
Right when I was watching that most recent debate, I was like,
oh my goodness, Like they really are just it's almost like they're just performing
a humiliation ritual on you, all right, and that's that. It's like,
I mean, they're literally abusing an old man on television. They're literally
propping up a caricature of a human being on television, and they're making you
vote for these two clowns, like or one of these two clowns. It's
the most ridiculous thing. And the insane culture cult worship on either side from
both sides both Like when I say cult worship, it's hate and the love.
You know, this is the tweet. I forget who actually said it,
but it sounds something like, please God give me the Trump that the
leftists have created in their delusional minds. I don't remember who said it,
but I saw the tweet. I know what you're talking about that I would
repeat that, but like or the Trump that the right wing has created in
their delusional minds, because neither one of those two Trumps exist for real.
Right, what we're actually dealing with is barely a human being. And I'm
not saying like he's possessed by some I'm saying that he's basically a cartoon,
like a living cartoon, Like there's not anything real there. He's just gonna
do what he has to do in order to be that caricature, right,
And so the worship on both sides, the fear of him is ridiculous.
The I thought that he's gonna somehow save you. Did you guys forget the
first four years? And that he's gonna kill us? Did you guys forget
the first four years? It's like there's like either side, they're both absolutely
out to lunch. And I honestly didn't think they'd ever get this far,
Like I didn't think that people would get this far gone with all of this
stuff. But that is how absurd it is. Is it's crazy making,
right, Like we hear about that expression when it comes from narcissists, but
that scales up to sociopaths and even further to psycho pass Crazy making is their
game, and that's exactly what they've done to the public. And I like
because I never believed that they would pull this off. To see how stunningly
they have it's mind blowing me and I agree. Yeah, I agree,
dude, I totally agree. I'm with you. I didn't I personally didn't
think it was going to get this far. But you know, the one
thing they always said, you know for a while now is even the most
seasoned of us would be surprised at, you know, at what happens.
And you know, there's I'll tell you at this point, there's no shortage
of surprises when it comes to what's happening here. I'll tell you that,
writer, what are your thoughts on that? Man, do you think that
this is which is some kind of mk ultra like hypnosis, that's that's almost
kind of hypnotizing the masses into this cult, Like Shame was saying, this
cult following like losing their focus on what's really important and just drawing their focus
onto these individuals. Well, I just think that it's interesting that they really
haven't built anybody else up on the Democratic side. There is no body else,
because as soon as the debates were over, everyone was like, they're
gonna replace Boden, They're gonna switch them out in there with Kamala Harris is
gonna be up there, or Michelle Obama. She's gonna swap in for Biden.
I'm like, no, they're not. But one, we got four
months until the freaking election. Are you kidding me? They you know how
long Trump has been campaigning. He's been campaigning basically since he lost the election
in twenty twenty. That's how long he's been campaigning for presidency. You're telling
me that they're gonna bring somebody else in and they're gonna fit almost four years
of campaigning into four months. Are you out of your mind? That's not
going to happen. And if it does, it just shows you how ridiculous
of a country that we live in that the leaders at the top really think
that somebody that has only been running for president for four months can beat somebody
that's been running for four years and that was president before, you know.
So that's a really big error on people's And that's another thing within the community.
Everyone's immediate like, oh, they got to they got to have Biden
stepped down, blah blah blah blah. And that really actually influenced the mainstream
media because the mainstream media is also talking about it, and I don't think
that they would have if all the big popular alternative media people were talking about
it, they would have just kept on. They would have cut it all
up, cut the the big it up into a way that people can not
see the mental cognitivity of Biden, to kind of brush it off and run
little bits and little segments on how Biden is so great. So I really
think that that was an influence from the alternative community that actually influenced the mainstream
media in that narrative. But when it comes to Biden, he's obviously he
has zero. Well, before we get into that, I want to talk
about this twenty twenty five document, the stupid twenty five bullshit document that everyone's
been uh, you know, talking about that freaking Stephen King has been retweeting
that all the show him. I can't, I cannot stand. I'm sorry,
guys. All right, it's really a policy proposal of it's I think
it's like around one thousand pages, uh, for an incoming Republican, which
that incoming Republican is supposedly is supposedly going to be Trump right now. A
section of it does talk about like abortion, like uh, like three sentences
out of the thousand pages or whatever, and everyone's calling it like a document
of hate, like it's it's Nazi Germany document, you know, and it's
uh, but it deals with a lot of things. It deals with the
you know, finances, the culture, to the Republicans, to the Democrats,
and the Democrats really hate it because they've they've I was at the gym
yesterday and see obviously CNN and MSNBC is on the TVs at the gym,
and it's set under project Operation Project twenty twenty five to over just to stock
the Supreme Court justices, to overrule the Supreme Court justice and what the fu.
But everything is just an agenda. Now, you got agenda, Agenda
twenty twenty five, you got Agenda twenty thirty. It's like they're just put
it's a it's an alternative. It's it's just the way that the alternative community
has bled through into the mainstream community. But this twenty twenty five thing has
nothing to do with Donald Trump. It's not a policy. It's yeah,
it doesn't have anything to do with their it's it's not even a policy for
an incoming president or even the Republican Party, right, and they do it
every four years, So it is you know, like once again looking at
the foundation, it's not Trump's thing. It's the Heritage Foundation. So let's
look at them. They've existed for a long time. They've done the same
thing over and over and over again. Nothing's ever come from it because nobody
takes them seriously because they produce trash like that, right, But like the
media running with it like that is just just beautiful because it's like I've been
saying and with the alternative community for a long time, that we have a
comprehension problem that most people aren't comprehending what they're hearing. They're really just hearing
the big sexy story. They're not really comprehending what's going on. And that's
the same thing with that. It's like anyone who just reads it can comprehend
this is a nothing burger, but people who don't know how to read that
can't. Right. It's very much like you know, it's not that I've
never trusted scientists. I just know that a lot of them lie. And
I know how to read science, right, But if you don't know how
to read science, then you have to rely. And it's the same thing
with politics. If you don't know how to read newspapers, then you don't
understand, right. And what has been baffling me, is the people on
the left freaking out about the fact that they're no longer allowed to break their
own laws, that their own Supreme Court justice has decided that they have to
follow the law their own constitution, and somehow that's a problem, and that
guy is going to be a fascist, Like I don't understand. It's like
it's one of the most narcissistic Like I know you are, but one am
I things I've ever seen. Like you guys literally have spent the last four
years breaking every law under the sun that you possibly can, im bending the
ones that you can't, all for your own political gain, And now you
want me to worry that that guy's going to come in and do the same
thing you guys are already doing. Like it's just I don't know what I'm
supposed to be scared of. It is gas lighting at its finest. That's
gas lighting right there. I call it. I call it the five year
old mentality. It's like a five year old kid on the playground where they're
with their friends, Like like me and my friends can do it, but
you can't, okay, Like that's that's it's literally what it sounds like to
me. I mean, we've all been there when we were younger. We
were the kid who was like, I can do it, but you can't.
And that's I mean, that's basically what it is. It's like we're
looking at a collective that is like adorned this child like mentality like throughout like
this, this whole whole situation, and it is it's almost as if like
the the and my theory behind it is it's because what they do is they
they're consistently hitting the very deep emotional triggers of the collective with all of this
stuff. And this is why this has happened, because you know, when
you when you push another buttons like that, you're gonna have people throw any
common sense and rational thinking out of the window, and you're gonna have people
just acting like a whole bunch of children, just emotionally immature children. But
you know, one thing I want to ask you to you know, since
we're talking about this, this has been a huge thing that's been going around
and I've kind of theorized myself, do you feel that some of the top
people in the alternative media community are potentially instilled there to do what they're doing.
Are they potentially some kind of actors of some kind, or are they
instilled to keep the diversion of everything going on and everybody chasing their tails?
I mean, what do you think about that? I think it's a Devil's
Advocate quote of I just set the stage, you pull your own strings.
I like that. Yeah, I think that's what has happened. It's what
I've been saying about whistleblowers since Corey Good was that, like, they don't
need to put disinformation agents in there anymore, they don't need to mind control
these people directly, because we have people who are just going to come along
and do it themselves right and play those roles. And ever since I said
that, we've had a parade of them, right, Like I have a
pretty public debate with one that that I know writer knows too, and like,
you know, this is what we've had ever since I said that,
Because that's that's and that's it, I think. And the same thing is
true for even like a Joe Rogan, Like I don't think that he needs
a CIA handler sitting beside him telling him what to do. I think Joe
Rogan's personality just fills in all of that hole for him, right, And
I think the same thing with like a canvass Owns or a Tucker Carlson or
a whatever those the Twin Cradssteen boys are and like all these different other people
on the left as well, Like, I don't think that they need to
actually puppet these people because what you said was true. They started hitting everybody
here, right, And when we're really activated here, we don't use this
at all. It's why in ocult you're always going to jump bump into the
trivia method is because that's part of the mystery schools. It's almost the foundation
of them is to keep that in order of thought, feeling, action,
because when your feelings are in the way, you don't think properly. When
your feelings activated, all you're hearing is beep. And the only thing make
that deep go away is Donald Trump or Joe Biden, whichever when you prefer,
right, it's the only thing because that's here, right. But while
that's happening, we're not using this, and that's why they're being able to
fill this for us. And our actions follow here though, right, So
this is all activated, we're not listening, we're throwing hands up in the
air. They get to fill this and then the trickle down ends up being
the actions that they want us to take. And so it's playing on human
nature and perverting the reward system so that people just do it themselves. And
I'm sure writer can speak to that, because we see a ton of it
in this community, right with like just the individuals like I don't believe for
one second that I don't know, I don't really like individual like James Rink
is being controlled by any type of handle or I think he's just a desperate
man who doesn't have any identity outside of being a fake super soldier on the
internet. Right, Like if Shane the Ruiner went away tomorrow, I'm fine.
You know, I've walked away from this community for up to two years
at a time, and I was perfectly fine. But these people can't say
that. I've even challenged them. Won't you step away for six months?
I dare you? And they won't do it right, And it's because they
can't for that reason, and that's why they don't need to remote mind control
us or send the CIA in unless we're gigantic and really getting out of line.
Maybe, but at this point in time, there's too many different voices
already that you don't really need to do that because even if Candice Owns starts
running around saying that Bridget mccuran's a woman or a man. Sorry, Like
you know, it's easy enough for people to just tune that out. And
the one thing I want to sy that you summed up before we get the
writer or no, You're absolutely right. We do do it to ourselves.
And that was you know, one of the biggest things in twenty twenty,
you know, with the koof and everything that was going on with that,
they didn't have to police anything. Our own people policed each other. So
like this is a good analogy for you know what you're talking about, Shane.
We do it to ourselves. We can make ourselves crazy, we can
police each other. I totally agree with that, right, what are your
thoughts? Then? It's just so interesting to me that they play both sides
of the aisle, and that's what they've been doing for a really long time.
They fund and they control both sides. They are the creators of the
miss and disinformation and the deception, while on the other hand saying that we
need to stop miss and disinformation and deception, right, playing both ends of
it, and I have it's just like that Vice article. Then I just
posted about the other day on Twitter, and I showed on my show with
Dana yesterday saying that you know, uh, scientists are saying that if you
research and you look into things, then that leads to conspiracy theorizing. Like,
okay, well what is involved in research? Researching just means that you're
reading. So they're saying that if you're reading, then you're a conspiracy theorist.
Well, how did they come to that conclusion? How did those scientists
come to that conclusion that they had to have read some stuff? Right?
Super, we just broke the matrix, just shoving the dolarge off the page.
I have a clip though from Barack Obama that I haven't the thing here
that I want to everyone to listen to understand. It's not necessary for people
to believe you tell you tell you tell me when you want me to hit
it real quick man. Sorry about that. All good. I played this
machine. I played it with Andy a couple of weeks ago, and I
think that it's just the best, uh encompassing nature of everything that we've really
been talking about here, and we can expand on it afterwards. But this
just lays it all out there like perfectly, an amazing conspiracy burrito, an
amazing cult burrito. Sorry, And where he's saying this speech is important too
because it's a cyber policy center, right, So it's about the Internet stuff,
it's about social media, it's about what we do. So we go,
let's roll on it. Understand, it's not necessary for people to believe
this information. In order to weaken democratic institutions. You just have to flood
a country's public square with enough raw sewage. You just have to raise enough
questions, spread enough dirt, plant enough conspiracy theorizing that citizens no longer know
what to believe. Once they lose trust in their leaders, in mainstream media,
in political institutions, in each other, in the possibility of truth.
The game's won there, it is. He just said it in the most
perfectly elegant way. I mean, people can talk about Obama as much as
they want, but man could speak. The man could get up there and
given an amazing speech. He was very persistent system in the way that that
he spoke. And it's wild that we transferred from that. It's kind of
like what she was talking about from that to a reality TV star and then
into a bumbling idiot that obviously has some a lot of mental problems and probably
dementia and all Alzheimer's. On stage, I was gonna say, what does
that he was? He squatted over and he looked like he was pooping and
pooping during that kind of say answer. Well, before Trump, the Obama
was a test too, because it was like, what happens if we put
this guy who looks perfect and does all the wrong things? Does anybody notice
right if he literally breaks every law that he could possibly break, he's literally
killing your own citizens. He's you know, starting killing more people than But
he looks good, he sounds great, right, all of that, So
it's okay. And the important thing that he said there, and there's different
directions that we're getting to this but not knowing what to believe, right,
people tend to give up at that point in time and they just decide that
they don't believe anything. And the other side that comes through the truth movement
is that you can't possibly be sure of anything. There is no objective reality,
right. Well, the end result is that that is the same that
you don't really believe anything, and when you don't have conviction in anything,
you act like you don't have conviction in anything, and then you can be
very easily steered around by either side of this political puppet stream or the alternative
community, public's public strings, or whichever, because why you can't know,
right, You couldn't possibly know, but somebody must. So I'll just keep
going where everybody else is going as long as I like this. It's the
smell of that room. Yeah, that's exactly. But it's so interesting because
Andy brought this up in our conversation. He said that that is exactly what
Juri Bezmanov was talking about in nineteen eighty three, the KGB defector in nineteen
eighty three. We almost gave that identical thing that Obama just said, Like
all the things that we just heard Obama talk about, also what Juri Bezmanov
said, and just a different kind of words back in nineteen eighty three.
It's and I made a reel of it, and it's verbatim the exact same
thing. Wasn't that interview on the news? Right? He was talking about
how the you know, the KGP, the KGB doesn't spend as much money
in espionage as the United States thinks it does. If they wanted to take
down a country. This is how they would do it over generations, isn't
that interview? Am I correct about the subversion of an entire country and the
four steps to subvert a country destabilization, demoralization, crisis, and then normalization.
And he's you know, your rebustment office Like hey, like, if
you create enough confusion, then that makes it to where no one no longer
knows what to believe. They don't trust anyone. They don't trust their friends,
they don't trust their family, they don't trust their neighbor, they don't
trust their institutions exactly themselves. That's a big fun. Yeah, sorry,
that is a big one. No, I would completely agree with that.
I think, I think, you know, I mean, I remember when
I first saw that interview, probably like ten years ago at this point,
you know, I I really saw it and it started to make sense in
the aspect of what was going on, you know, in my younger years.
But like I've told Rider before, you know, I fell for the
New Age scam in the beginning. Luckily I wised up and after that and
understood that it was a kind of a sham in and of itself. But
no same thing man, that you could even see it applicable going on right
now even in the alternative community, and you can see this kind of applicable
to everything. And you know, I think, you know, kind of
what we're hitting at here, guys again is like, you know, we
we have to understand that there is foundational principles and what's going on as what
Shane is saying for sure, and you know, we have to to know
that we have to just use discernment and we and the biggest thing you guys
talked about too is man just fucking reading the goddamn paperwork, like just just
to read it, you know, Like I think, really, you know,
I think, you know, it's kind of a vicious cycle too,
because you know, if you look at the world today on how it's it's
either it's either it's a double edged sword. I think, yes, there's
there's uh, there's people, there's people taking advantage of it, but it's
even us too. You know. It's like you look at our day to
day lives where a lot of people are so swamped and busy, that's where
they're going to get their information. They're going to get their information from a
thirty second reel, you know, as opposed to looking up the actual document
itself, and which pisses me off so much, Steven, it pisses me
off so much. If that's the case, I'm with you because I'm a
guy that two. I like to read things I don't like to just you
know, I like to look at papers and things like that and actually read
over stuff. I'm with you on that. It's just like people would rather
like my short little reels, and my short little clips like do so much
better than my normal show does on everything. Dude, Like I can post
something on TikTok and get a thousand views in like five minutes, you know,
and I'm struggling to get a thousand views on my regular shows. It's
wild and I it like makes me want to just like stop doing it.
But at the same time, I'm like, well, you know, as
long as it's getting out there in some way, and maybe one or two
of those people out of those thousands of people that has watched this minute clip,
maybe one or two of them check out the full thing, you know,
and that's worth it. I guess. It's just really frustrating and the
way the platforms treat real solid information is ridiculous as well, they like,
my stuff should be just blowing everything out of the water, but it just
it doesn't. And that's really discouraging as well, you know, because I
know that it's good and it's been proven that it's good. I mean,
I have videos on TikTok that have like close to half a million views,
you know, and I know the things that I put out as quality,
and I know that it's really good, but they it just does not want
to be pushed because it's lumped in with all this nonsense, garbage, bullshit,
you know what I mean. I feel you on that, man.
And you know, I think, well, the one thing I've seen of
these platforms do and I'm sure Shane can agree with me when I say this,
they seem to pop up the the what I call the the limited hangouts,
uh, the the sensationalists, you know, and the the fearmongers,
and then just the individuals who are just really causing like a lot of hardcore
division even further. So that's what it seems like to me. And and
and I feel you on that, writer, because it sucks when you have
somebody, I mean, you have a documentary and that's out on Amazon,
you know, and Uh, you've put a lot of work into what you
do, and uh, you know, I can understand your frustration behind that
one hundred percent. But but Shane, let's let's hear it, hear your
thoughts on this as well. I don't I've said it all already. No,
no, no, you know we're going in circles because ultimately, people
aren't really looking for the truth. They're looking for a big sexy story and
they've woken up to go back to sleep in a different dream. And you
know, from my whistle blower knowledge, the one thing that they told me
over and over again was that they, like I didn't think that they could
do this, but they kept saying that they would make people want it.
And you know today that like every day that's just ringing in my ears is
like almost their laughter, because it does sure as hell seem to me like
people want it at this point in time, Like they don't want freedom,
they don't want truth. They want a comfortable lie that they can disappear to
the multiverse with. And that's all the problem. And ideology is very important,
and you know, the ideology that the alternative community shares is the same
ideology they fight against with the mainstream community, right, Like everything that most
alternative community people will point to about the mainstream, they'll be like, this
is wrong, this is wrong. You guys are doing the same thing.
You're just doing it with a different flavor, kind of like I've said,
like super Soldier Furry, explain to me the difference. In a lot of
cases, there isn't one right and and that's it's sad to see. But
at the same time, we you know, we can do better, and
I know that we can. And you know, I've watched this community go
through bad cycles before and will bounce back from this one too, just like
humanity always will, and so will we. But for now, we should
be trying to be more disciplined, trying to be more responsible with what we're
doing here, because, like writer has said, we are the new media.
Everybody, like even the audience is part of the new media. And
you have a responsibility now. And if what you truly want is truth and
what you truly want is change, then make sure your actions prove that to
the world instead of just your words. That dude, and I think you're
one hundred percent right on that. And the one thing I want to say
is, you know, is the biggest thing we could be doing to change
things is focusing on creating the existences that we truly wish and desire. That's
one of the biggest things we can truly do to change things. And I'm
with you on that too. It's almost as if, like you know,
people wake up to go back to sleep in a different dream. It's not
a it's almost as if, you know, I hear the laughter that you
heard. Also, man, because I look at I look at this today,
like right in front of me, and I'm just like, holy shit.
Sometimes, like you know, I do realize the magnitude. I look
at it and I'm like, this is this is one hell of a wall.
It's gotten a little bit bigger. It's gotten a little bit bigger over
the past few years, you know. So, but uh, and stop
thinking that everything is a freaking signop. Everything's not a freaking sign up.
Like things happen, like things naturally occur in our reality. It's like the
conspiracy in the truth of community want to make it where nature just doesn't nature
anymore. Nature still, Nature's nature has been naturing since the beginning of time.
Okay, natural things happen, that's just the way that it is okay,
and people are so freaking blackpilled to the point that they can't see anything
but a freaking syop or some kind of controlled opposition, and that's why they
attack each other. That's why they're always like this at each other all the
time. Twenty four to seven. No one ever says, oh, hey,
we should collaborate, we should like bring our minds together, we should
come together on this and work together, and maybe we'll figure out something that
we didn't know, maybe we can actually get to the bottom of this,
maybe we can actually possibly change something. But instead, it's like we're just
fighting with each other and butting heads against each other. No I'm right,
No, you're right, No, i'm you're wrong. I'm right, I'm
right, you're wrong. And it's like created this ridiculous type of back and
forth within the community. And that's really the way that it's been for a
really long time. And I believe that that's done on purpose, that is
done for a reason, and it's it's just unbelievable the way that you see
people treat each other within the community. I'm like, whose side are you
on? Bro? Like, whose side are you really? And then they're
so jealous of other individuals that are that are doing better than they are doing,
which makes absolutely no sense. We should be lifting these people up.
We should be sharing their content. We should be putting out their content.
We should be liking their content. We should be reacting to it, we
should be commenting on it with good and positive things, even if you don't
agree with them. Like me and she and't have talked about several times,
I listen to people all the time that I don't like or that I disagree
with, because maybe somewhere and that I can get a different perspective, somewhere
in that my mind could possibly be changed by what somebody else says that I
hadn't thought about before. And this whole idea is that if you disagree with
someone, that means that you hate them or that you don't like them.
That is not the case. What happened is like civil debate, there's people
just like not debating anymore. And that's another thing that goes back to Trump.
Trump turned the ties on freaking debating. He just got up there and
just like insulted the ship out of Hillary Clinton, which yeah, yeah,
exactly. It's like that Family Guy episode where Lois is running for mayor or
whatever, and she just walks out there and says, nine eleven, that's
what it is. You changed the whole game. He turned it into an
internet chat room in a legitimate presidential debate. Well, and we changed the
timeline because don't you remember Smoky the Bear said only dudes can start forest fires.
In my timeline, bro, what timeline? In my timeline it was
Giuyetti. Smoking never existed. There was no stay. I'll tell you skets
people get it right. But dude, writer, you hit a very good
point, man, because like that's what how I feel. I feel like
we're all comrades here. I really do, Like I feel like, you
know, you know, yeah, there's the same thing. There's there's people
that I don't one hundred I've had people on the show that I donte one
hundred percent agree with. I mean, there was a guy not too long
ago. He was a great guy. It was a great conversation. Like,
don't get me wrong, but like didn't a hundred percent agree with everything
you're saying. But I still have respect for him in the fact that he
put this much work into this research, like you know, he he did.
He was very educated in what he was talking about. I mean he
did. He opened my eyes to some things that you know, I had
to go back and reevaluate. And I think, I think that's true critical
thinking? Is it not? Like I mean, it's it's true critical thinking.
Isn't that what this community was supposed to be founded upon? Was critical
thinking? And like common sense? Isn't that what this was originally supposed to
be? But yet it's not now anymore. Anytime anything happens that seems set
tabit like anything on the world stage, like within the hour, dude,
people are on it. They're like, oh no, it wasn't really that.
It was it was freaking aliens. It was it was a mall alien.
I got a I got a video recording or someone sent me that was
there when the the mall in Miami. They said that there were aliens.
There was twelve foot tall aliens that were outside. That's why all the cops
were rolling up. It's I don't know, dude, It's just so wild
that it's that there's not any time in between any of the stuff that comes
out within the community, Like there's no like looking into it anymore, there's
no critical thinking behind it anymore. It's just like, how soon and how
fast can we push out this content after something happens, And inevitably all those
people that push out that content as soon as it happens are all wrong.
They're all wrong every single time because they don't have all the information. All
the information has not come out about it. If they would awaited a week
or maybe even a couple of days, they would realize that it was nothing
like that. But that's not the goal. That's not the point. It
goes back to the confusion aspect of this whole thing, and you flood the
Internet in the population with as much nonsense and garbage as possible, all out
at once, so it just confuses everybody on what to believe. The mean,
the alternative community is the main extreme community for the people that don't believe
in mainstream news and mainstream community. That's what it is due. And I
remember the whole the whole mall alien. You know, we had a lot
of different aliens last year. We had cake aliens, we had we had
mollyds, we had Vegas aliens. You don't remember the Vegas aliens. No,
I didn't even see. I know we had a plastic jug alien.
Somebody thought of bleach bo bottle. Wasn't it that the duff was an alien
skullar or nothing like that? But uh, it could have been a joke.
But no, I did not hear about these Vegas aliens. Enlighten me.
This is one I missed. Uh you didn't hear about the Vegas aliens,
dude, I don't think so. Man, Well, there's footage of
it. You might be able to look it up. I don't know.
Uh, you just type in Vegas. Let me see. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, it's got it's got awful footage. It looks like
it was filmed off of a two thousand and one freaking flip phone razor.
I could have filmed them. Wait a minute, let me let me see
it. So it was like, was it like two months ago? No,
it was. I think that it was in It was last year,
all right. So it says it says the cops investigate alleged UFO crash and
green colored aliens sighting in Las Vegas. I don't know if that's the one
or not, but I'll definitely have to look it up. Man. But
no, that's you know, I'm surprised that's slid by me. I don't
know. Anyway, there was this aliens that apparently showed up in this family's
backyard in Vegas, and the whole family was there and they all looked on
like one person, the only one person that was videoing anything, was in
the very back of the group. There was a fence in between them and
this entity or whatever, and all you see is like what kind of looks
like a outline of a man, and like that's it. But the footage
is so freaking blurry and so distorted that it's hard to make out anything.
Which is That's another thing that I've mentioned the machine several times and a lot
of times on my show, is like, why is all of the footage
of anything weird or anything strange or freaking big foot? Why is it all
shitty footage? It is? It is like it's like it literally it's like
the guy, the guy can't hold the camera straight for the life of him.
You know, later I felt the aliots, They're right here on the
screen in my room, a really clear view of them. I'm telling you,
it's it's every You want to know what the only the only clear clear
video I ever saw of something man I was actually I was watching with with
my lady the other day that we've been watching the paranormal caught on camera just
to kill time when we're hanging out in the evenings, and somebody actually got
a bigfoot video that was not like they actually had like a clear I mean,
it could have been it could have been a lot of different things.
But but but but still, I'm with you, guys. Were you talking
about the one in Colorado? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was that
was the one that they were showcasing. That one was really interesting me and
show didn't mean Sheane did a whole show on it. That one was interesting
because I mean, it could have been somebody in just the weird like honeying
gear whatever. But the thing that I found interesting that I brought up in
the video was that the creature or the entity or the person or whatever,
he sat down like he was trying to blend in with the shrubbery, which
I thought was really interesting. That's what you would probably do. That's what
animals do, is they try and blend in with nature, and like whenever
they're stalking a stocking something, they will try and blend in with the surroundings,
the surrounding areas. So I thought that was gave a little bit more
legitimacy to it. But those people are actually from Wyoming and their story seems
to be legit. I don't know who knows. Man. You know.
That's the one thing too, is it's like I think, I think,
you know, because we're gonna start winding down the best thing that I can
lead off with this man after this whole conversation tonight. You know, I
got two very smart individuals sitting here who have done their research. They have
looked at the things they have put in the work. Like I said,
Writer, Writer has a documentary called JFKX on Amazon right now. Shane is
a whistle blower and he actually, you have classes to teach people magic and
other things correct as well, right I do? Yeah? And what I
define magic, that's your relationship with yourself, your environment, and other people.
It's not throwing fireballs exactly as actually you know. To tie it into
the Secret Space Program, I put an and I'm doing introduction calls for free
for the rest of the summer if anyone's interested, because usually it's sixty dollars
for that introduction call. Because of Secret Space Program. People wanting to learn
how to throw fireballs but it is I feel I feel you, guys.
I got a question for you really quickly. Shane Ryan Burns was on my
show the other day and he was talking about this thing that's called the Red
Right, and he said that it kind of came out of Michael Achino and
which Michael Achino started the Temple of Set And apparently Michael Achino was involved in
this like ritual where he would essentially imbue his essence onto a pregnant lady that
had the child has not been born yet, and he would do some kind
of magic to like put his consciousness inside of the unborn baby. And then
at some point I would be guessing pretty close to the pregnancy, he then
kills himself and then commits suicide, but his consciousness is now inside of that
unborn child. Have you ever heard of anything like that? I think there's
a show that's very similar called Intruders. But yeah, there's a you know,
not to say that it worked, but there's definitely a few Culls out
there who believe they can do stuff like that, and it's up for debate
whether or not it works, and it definitely doesn't work one hundred percent of
the time. But yeah, it's a type of forced incarnation. It's possible,
and it exists. Whether or not that gentleman actually was involved in it
or had just heard about it or saw true is up for a bit as
well. But yeah, there's a lot of weird ship. All right,
I'm not gonna deny that's sorry for my language and your show. But there's
a lot of weird stuff. There's truth in almost all of it, and
but all that noise is what's drowning out the truth of it and the truth
of it on both sides, whether it's our enemy or the powerful ones.
The answer is human and that's why people don't like the answer. I can't
understand that one hundred percent. And I like the way that you phrased that,
because there is truth in this. It's not we're not It's not that
you guys are coming up here and being like you know all of it.
It's not true now that there's definitely very strange things that are that are happening.
And and like I said, Shane, you put it really well that
there's this noise that's this this background noise or this background mental noise or whatever
we really want to call it. That's clouding out the discernment to look for
that actual truth as opposed to just believing what's handed to us, you know,
and TikTok videos and what's on you know, the x feed or things
like that. So well, guys, let me tell you this, it
was a real pleasure having you two on. It was great to have you
both here at the same time. So I do have writer, I have
your YouTube link and your Apple Podcasts link in the description. Shane, I
have your YouTube link. But if you two want to announce where they can
find you guys outside of that before we close out tonight, and so everybody
can go and check out your stuff. You can find me on YouTube had
Raised by Giants and you allodcast platforms at Rais by Giants, And check out
my documentary jfk X on Amazon Prime if you're inside of the United States.
If you're outside of the United States, check it out on Vimeo's up on
Vimeo as well and on t B so you can watch it on two B.
I think twob goes to a different a couple of different on trees and
I am currently working on documentary number two, which is going to be amazing
and blow everything out of the water, so really looking forward to that.
Thanks for having me on, Steven, and thanks for being on here,
Shane. Once in a lifetime podcast that we just did my friend and I
very much enjoyed it. Been wanting to do one like this for a while
and then she and I mean Stephen hit me up and was like, yeah,
to do this bad boy, so very much enjoyed it. Thank you.
Oh yeah man? How yeah? And Shane, where can everybody else
find you? Aside from your YouTube channel? I know you're on all social
media as well. If you do the link linked tree u r L after
the slash Shane underscorees a door like it's written on the screen there. If
they see that, but with an underscore between changes the store, you'll find
out my links there. I don't really post to public YouTube anymore because of
the community, and I know I have a paywall that's there more like a
gatekeeper than a money making thing, because yeah, I don't really make a
don of money off of it. I just don't want to have to answer
everybody's absurd questions. I like to questions. I totally understand, man,
I totally understand if you two want to stick around for just a second,
guys, I want to thank you all for joining me for another bg Cast
Wednesday live podcast. I think this was a very insightful conversation with writer Lee
and Shane here. I think, really what this really says to us is
we need to use discernment. I mean, this is something I hit home
so much. Is discernment at all time high right now. Discernment is key
and do not let the noise cloud out what is truly there for you to
see. And that is really the best thing that I can leave you all
with. Guys. I'll be back next week with Rafael. He's going to
be coming on to discuss kind of a similar topic, some of the misinformation
in the conspiracy community at this time, as well as some other occult stuff
we're going to get into. And other than that, you guys, have
yourself a wonderful night, Take care everybody, and thanks for joining us.