WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:06.280 What is going on? Everybody? Happy Wednesday, Happy Wednesday. Thank you 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:11.640 for joining me for another BEGI Cast Wednesday Live podcast. You guys noticed I 3 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.839 swapped up the look a little bit. I gave Tim Poole his beanie back, 4 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:18.199 I got my hair cut, and you know, this is where we're 5 00:00:18.239 --> 00:00:21.719 at tonight, guys. So it's just been hot as hell here in Colorado, 6 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:24.679 like it has been the past few weeks. But nonetheless, let's dive 7 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:28.480 right into it. I've got a dream team here with me tonight, two 8 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:32.799 very very special guests I'm about to bring on, you know who kind of 9 00:00:32.840 --> 00:00:36.520 see things the way we're seeing them at this point in time. I made 10 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:43.280 a post earlier today on X talking about how something very strange has happened in 11 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:49.000 the conspiracy community, especially for individuals who've been following it for a long time, 12 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:52.119 such as myself and the two people I'm going to bring on, and 13 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:57.479 we're gonna break down exactly what the hell is so strange and what's going on. 14 00:00:57.560 --> 00:01:00.679 So first I want to welcome to the stage Ride. He's been on 15 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:03.159 the show before. What's up Man? Thanks again for being here tonight. 16 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:07.000 What's up, dude? I'm excited to be here, my friend, I 17 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:11.519 got my kick him in the caball sunglasses going on. I can only kick 18 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:15.599 him in the caballs with these sunglasses on. And we're in a once in 19 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:23.920 a lifetime show here today with my good friend Shane and you. So I'm 20 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.239 very much looking forward to it. Thank you, man. And I got 21 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:30.519 mister Shane Sador. He has not been on my show, but I have 22 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:34.280 been on his. And welcome to your first time here. Man. How's 23 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.480 it going? Absolutely spectacularly if that's a real word. If it's not, 24 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:44.879 is now, well just created it, dude, I'm telling you. Man. 25 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:47.280 So all right, guys, it's it's a pleasure to have you here. 26 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:49.400 Let's dive right into this. I mean, so both of you guys 27 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:56.000 are very similar to me. You know, you have been observing this situation 28 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:00.840 for quite some time, and you've seen a lot of weirdness to emerge from 29 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:04.959 this, especially on the side of the conspiracy and the truth or community. 30 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:07.639 And to me, it seems like, you know, at a time, 31 00:02:07.800 --> 00:02:12.520 we had, at least in my eyes, we had somewhat before twenty twenty, 32 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:16.360 what I would call a somewhat unified, somewhat credible community at that point, 33 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:19.960 I mean, there were somewhat people trying to do the right things, 34 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:22.639 but you know, of course we had things here and there. But then 35 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:28.560 it seems like after twenty twenty or even potentially before, we had a lot 36 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:31.759 of weird things get thrown into the mix and the water's muddy, it seems 37 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:36.000 to be. So let's start off with Wright, Wright, what do you 38 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:38.400 think is going on? Man? What do you think? Why do you 39 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:44.840 think the deterioration of the conspiracy slash truther or community has has become what it 40 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:49.639 is and why do you think it's almost kind of assimilated itself into almost a 41 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:53.759 mainstream media kind of category at this point, Well, it's because we are 42 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:58.439 the media now, like mainstream media has failed, it is not pulling in 43 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:02.039 the numbers that it used to pull in, and now we are the media. 44 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:07.639 And it's almost exactly like what's happening with regular TV as well. You 45 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:12.759 know, with all the streaming services and stuff like it used to be regular 46 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:15.120 TV. You sit down and you watch it at a specific time. If 47 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:17.680 you don't watch it at a specific time, you're not able to see it 48 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:22.240 anymore, or you have to wait a while to see it. And what 49 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:24.520 they did is they took for a really cheap price. They were like, 50 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:28.840 okay, well six ninety nine you can get Netflix. You know, that's 51 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:32.000 where the baseline Netflix started out, was six ninety nine around that area, 52 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:35.400 because I remember when I first got it, when it first came out, 53 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:39.240 And now they've switched that, they've turned that into now you have to pay 54 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:44.240 more to get that premium Netflix, but they've given you a base here, 55 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:49.520 and the base here is with ads, right, and what is regular TV? 56 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:53.680 Regular TV made money because of the ads made money because of everything they 57 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:59.000 could be promoted on that TV show, on the news, on all of 58 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:03.560 those watching a movie on regular TV. And now for the same price that 59 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:10.000 you were getting before, now you get the ad version of it, you 60 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:13.240 know. And that's how they've all done. That's how like Peacock is, 61 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:16.639 That's how Hulu is, That's how Netflix is, That's how HBO is. 62 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:20.959 You get the low tier. You can pay the same amount that it was 63 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:28.240 when it first started. But now you're gonna get bombarded with freaking stupid pharmaceutical 64 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:39.680 ads, cancer ads, HPV, freaking all these ridiculous pharmaceutical things that have 65 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:44.000 absolutely nothing. I've never had any either of you ever watched an AD on 66 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:48.160 TV and then thought, oh, I immediately need to go ask my doctor 67 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:51.480 about this. You know how at the end of every pharmaceutical commercial that like, 68 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:56.639 ask your doctor about luxeber, actual doctor, if this is right for 69 00:04:56.720 --> 00:05:00.720 you. Has anybody ever watched an AD and then immediately win and ask their 70 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:03.040 doctor if they can be put on this medication. It's the most ridiculous thing 71 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:08.000 that I've ever heard, Like, and I've never washed an ad either where 72 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:13.959 I want to go buy that product. Like, no bounty commercial has ever 73 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:21.600 convinced me to buy a bounty not toilet paper but tile paper. You know, 74 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:27.600 Don dishwashing liquid has never made me want to wash off a freaking bird 75 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:31.879 that's been involved in an oil spill, you know, like Don dishwashing commercials 76 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:39.560 wash everything besides the dishes. I know, you're it's almost like, I 77 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:45.199 want to say, the pharmaceutical it's like a glorified trap house the pharmaceutical commercials 78 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:48.399 man. Because I'll always remember the Robin Williams skit where he's like talking about 79 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:51.000 his doctor coming up to him like, hey, hey, Robin, I 80 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:54.639 got this new shit I want you to try. Let me let me slide 81 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:57.360 you a sample pack of this and if you really like this, you know, 82 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.240 call me and I'll hook you up. It's like it's almost like it's 83 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:02.040 like a glorified trap house when we're talking about that kind of stuff, I 84 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:05.879 mean, or glorified drug dealing. Honestly, in my opinion, yeah, 85 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:10.519 that's what it really seems like. And I kind of went off on a 86 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:15.040 little tangent there on on media and stuff, but that's really how it is. 87 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:16.920 But when it comes to the community, we've seen this evolving nature of 88 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:25.720 the community. And I was listening back in like the early two thousands and 89 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:30.240 and how far it's gone, and you know, let's let's just make conspiracies 90 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:34.759 interesting again. There's literally not it's it's a regurgitation after regurgitation. It's old 91 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:40.160 information is being regurgitated for a new group of people. I me and Shane 92 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:45.879 have talked about this several times on my show. And it's it's cern, 93 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:54.759 it's harp, it's uh Tartaria, it's the World's Fairs, it's Antarctica has 94 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:58.879 directed energy weapons. It's like we get these things that pop up, like 95 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:03.040 every couple of months, there's some kind of new event that is then related 96 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:09.279 back to one of those five things, and it's just it's a constant revolving 97 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:14.199 door of those things. And then people will dig up old videos that people 98 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:17.199 have seen and heard a thousand times that's been into this community for a really 99 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:23.680 long time, and then repost them as if it's something brand new, like 100 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:25.759 all the time. I just seen that one guy. I just seen a 101 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:30.279 video earlier today on Facebook of I forget what that guy's name. It was 102 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:32.279 like in ninety five or whatever, where he was sitting down and like talking 103 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:34.720 about the Reptilians. I'm sure, Shane, Shane, you know what I'm 104 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:39.279 talking about, where he's like the Auctorians came in and it took over the 105 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:42.720 Reptilions, and then Auctorians didn't do a good enough job and they had to 106 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:46.800 send in the galactic reinforcements of the Pladians, and then the Pladings came in, 107 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:49.720 and now the Pladions are in control and the Reptilions are really really really 108 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:54.959 really strong and powerful and it's like a three hour long conversation. But they've 109 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:58.600 they just clipped out a little thing of that and then put it online and 110 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.399 then acting like it's something like brand new, and that's just like a common 111 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:07.759 thing that has just happened over and over again, and the degeneration of the 112 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:16.439 content within the community is always related to something that's happened before. It's wild. 113 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:20.600 It seems like it's just consistently be No, I'm with you, it 114 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:24.439 seems like it's consistently being recycled. And I've noticed this as well that the 115 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:28.199 things that are getting recycled, they're they're adding like these new nuances, like 116 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.480 you're saying, try to make them seem new, try to make it seem 117 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:33.080 like it's information that you know, a lot of us haven't heard before. 118 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.039 On top of that, also, man, they're just you know, and 119 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:39.559 I kind of blame TikTok for this. I don't know if I can completely 120 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:43.480 blame TikTok for this one hundred percent, but they have. They've been the 121 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:46.000 ones pumping out like the most ridiculous things like you know, as far as 122 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:50.480 like the most ridiculous like fear monitoring. I mean, we all talked about 123 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:54.799 what's going to happen for the EMS test that happened back however long ago, 124 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:58.919 how it was going to shoot these neutrinos through you and it was gonna you 125 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:01.159 know, map your body and all the people who got the vaccine, it 126 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.639 was going to activate the nanotechnology inside of them and they were all going to 127 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:09.480 be good. I know that's where I where I kind of, you know. 128 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:11.480 I I don't want to place blame on TikTok, because I know it's 129 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:13.639 a lot of people in the community, but that just seems to be where 130 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:16.039 it's been. Like focused on that now, Sane. One thing I want 131 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:20.120 to talk to you about real quick is something that you brought up to me 132 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:24.399 when I was on your show, about how the conspiracy community has been infiltrated 133 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:28.799 for quite some time, even before the days of the Internet. So why 134 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:33.279 don't you elaborate on that a little bit well without going too much into the 135 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:35.559 weeds, because I know that some of your viewers don't know who I am, 136 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:39.320 but I've been a whistleblower since I was like twenty sixteen. I come 137 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:43.559 from what you guys all call the Illuminati, even though that's not the real 138 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:48.200 word for it, and I used to work doing disinformation for them, specifically 139 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:52.080 related to UFOs, because they were trying to cover up my lab experimentations and 140 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:56.000 things like that. And then eventually I got a pretty good look at what 141 00:09:56.039 --> 00:10:03.240 they were doing for this blossoming. It used to be kind of in you 142 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:07.919 know, conference halls or basements, some dude's basement or maybe a library or 143 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:09.320 something like that. But then we got the Internet. We started to get 144 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:13.879 forums and chat rooms and things like that. But back before the Internet even 145 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:20.320 it was already being infiltrated with basically disinformations. So something that the illuminati did 146 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:26.080 was dump all of the truth to people from going back, I don't know, 147 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:30.159 fifty sixty years now, and allowed researchers to do what they do with 148 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:37.000 it, right, and then steered those people very very carefully towards curated conclusions, 149 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:41.080 let's put it that way, and then propped up the people who came 150 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:46.759 to the correct conclusions to start what the original alternative community was, which was 151 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:50.480 prior to the Internet, right. And then when I started to really look 152 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.399 at it was the early days with like you know, all the early whistleblower 153 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:58.960 interviews and everything. I don't have name channels and stuff like that, but 154 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:01.399 like when it went it released in the forums, and I was a moderator 155 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:05.480 of a popular one things like that, and I was all still working for 156 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:09.240 them at the time and reporting back to them on what I was seeing, 157 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:11.480 And at that time I used to fight with him a lot because I thought 158 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:16.360 we were when I say we the public were smarter than we have turned out 159 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.159 to be with all of this information. But you know, they predicted that 160 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.399 this is what would have happened, right, And I can remember talking to 161 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:28.240 researchers back in twenty ten about how one of their big plans was to try 162 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:33.159 and criminalize conspiracy theory and really demonize the alternative community as it was, because 163 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:39.919 they knew that kind of what writer was just saying, a mainstream alternative community 164 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.080 was coming, right, the intellectual dark Web, people like Joe Rogan, 165 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:46.679 people like us all kind of combined into one thing. They knew that that 166 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:50.639 was coming, and so they wanted to make sure that there was so much 167 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:54.679 mud in the water that we were doing exactly what we've been doing, right, 168 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:58.679 which is creating conspiracy snowballs and conspiracy burritos and never actually going back and 169 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:03.240 looking at the center of that snowball and the foundation of the house that we 170 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:07.039 built on that land and things like that to really find it if any of 171 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:11.120 this stuff was ever true in the first place. Right, And you know, 172 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:13.480 I've been saying that for a long time, and people were getting really 173 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:16.679 mad at me. But you know, year after year after year after year, 174 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:20.440 there's just more proof than the result that that's exactly what's going on here. 175 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:26.440 And so since twenty twenty when the thing happened, we've had this big 176 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:31.440 influx of people waking up, right which the community before that, as you 177 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:33.720 said, was sort of unified. We had our problems, but we did 178 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.559 have a pretty solid community at that point in time. We were all waiting 179 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:41.200 for that, right, We were waiting for the event that was going to 180 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.480 wake everybody up, and then we were going to the Promised Land. We 181 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:50.039 were going to get what we wanted. We but what did we do well? 182 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:54.159 We we made it so that all those people who came into this world 183 00:12:54.679 --> 00:13:00.399 ended up stuck in a perpetual rabbit hole that they'll never find out of, 184 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:05.600 because, you know, they've got a handful of truth and a fistful of 185 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:11.639 you know, getting alien probed on Mars, you know, and they don't 186 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:13.600 know what Israel. So they could kind of just do this and they go 187 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:18.399 right back to where they were, right, or they end up ditching that 188 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:22.679 cult, the mainstream cult, if you will, and just joining one of 189 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:26.960 the many cults we offer within our community, because we have those too. 190 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:30.879 We did a great job of building cults within our community. It was really 191 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:33.679 impressive. It was almost like we were trained to do it or something. 192 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.200 And that's what I'm trying to say, is that we were and yeah, 193 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:41.440 and now here we are where you know, it was supposed to be the 194 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:46.799 only kind of safe haven from the mainstream clown show, and now it's just 195 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.440 as much as of a clown show, right. Like writer drops some names 196 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:54.759 of different things that have gone through, like the QAnon thing. I was 197 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:58.799 warning about that years before it ever happened, Like this is going to happen. 198 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:01.399 I don't know what they're going to call it it, but everyone's gonna 199 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:03.639 love it. It's gonna come up on a forum just like this. It's 200 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:07.879 gonna seem all mysterious and cryptic, and everyone's gonna buy its nonsense. And 201 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:09.679 it's gonna be the beginning of the end for us because they're gonna end up 202 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:16.840 creating domestic terrorism based on that, and here we are we have domestic terrorism 203 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:20.480 based on that. But I'm still just some guy who you know, I'm 204 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:24.200 a little bit Chevy Chase today meaning I'm in a little bit of pain and 205 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.000 so I might be a little bit cranky because they're hitting me with the d 206 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:35.840 w's to mine control me to tell you these things right with a do He's 207 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.919 getting hit with the mountain dew code red. Boy, you can't come back 208 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.559 from the mountain dew code red. He's getting baja blasted, man. But 209 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.200 no, no, Shane, I think you described it perfectly, man, 210 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.960 because yes, you know, we were all talking about the event, like 211 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:54.320 and we thought that after that event, like it was gonna just be a 212 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:58.480 whole old new thing. And you are absolutely right, you summed it. 213 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:01.840 You summed it up perfectly that it was our mentality. But boy were we 214 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:03.559 wrong. And you know the thing that you brought up about qan on too, 215 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:09.440 man, is this still going on? You still have people believing this. 216 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:11.639 I see it on x all the time. They have all these different 217 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:16.120 qu accounts, man, and they'll post like in forty eight hours, this 218 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:20.679 is gonna happen or this is the matter, this event's going to occur, 219 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.279 and then you see like all of these people buying into it. Man, 220 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:28.639 it almost seems like you know, like the the the I guess you could 221 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:33.440 say that the newer individuals who have quote unquote woken up. They're just dying 222 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:37.279 to grasp at anything that they possibly can. They're taking advantage of that. 223 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:41.679 So I mean, onto what the next thing, guys? I mean, 224 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:46.480 so, what do you think personally? All right, personally at this point 225 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:52.480 in time, do you feel is the biggest thing that they're doing to muddy 226 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:54.639 the waters? And I'm gonna honestly say, I feel it's the these the 227 00:15:54.799 --> 00:16:00.519 conspiracy syops like you guys were talking, I call them syops sandwiches this point, 228 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:02.960 like I think I told told a writer or that. And the reason 229 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:06.960 why I call it is Siah is this layered like you have you have the 230 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:08.879 two pieces of bread, which are the sy op, but then you have 231 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:11.759 the sy op in the lettuce too, and then you have the sy op 232 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.399 and the tomato, and then you get to the meat and the meats full 233 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.919 of sy ops. I mean, what is your guys' opinion? I mean, 234 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:22.200 where do you think really that this all started to go downhill? Asides 235 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:26.480 from the potential infiltration, I mean, do you think it's human nature and 236 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:30.440 human behavior or was there any other kind of driving factors behind it? Well, 237 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.399 to follow up on what she was talking about, which I think was 238 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:37.559 really important when Sheen said that when you track back all these things to their 239 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:41.240 original source, you come to the conclusion that they were never real to begin 240 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:47.120 with. And unfortunately that is the case. I mean, that's one hundred 241 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:52.360 percent sure. I've done an entire series of UFO doomsday calls on my channel. 242 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:57.320 I'm doing a series right now on the legends of ufology and going back 243 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:03.120 and looking at what everybody talk about talks about now within the community, within 244 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:07.759 the New age community, within the conspiracy community, within ufology. It can 245 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:12.440 all be tracked back through all of these UFO cults. Everything that they've talked 246 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:19.279 about before, going as far back as the early thirties is just been changed 247 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:23.880 and molded and shifted and turned into something just slightly different than what was being 248 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:30.720 talked about before. And that's a really important thing to understand. And then 249 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:34.799 when you take into the Paul Bennowitz case and what was done to Paul Benowitz 250 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:40.960 and the misinformation and the deception surrounding him and what all came up out of 251 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:45.559 that. You know, so many different things came out of the Paul Benningwitz 252 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:51.839 case that are still regurgitated to this very day, including a contract with extraterrestrials 253 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:57.359 and the military that came directly out of this misinformation and deception ran on Paul 254 00:17:57.359 --> 00:18:04.759 Bennowitz from the NSSA and Air Force Office Office of Special Investigations that there's that 255 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:10.039 the cattle mutilation stuff is connected to aliens and UFOs. That came from Paul 256 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:17.000 Benowitz as well. Uh a secret underground military facility in New Mexico came from 257 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:22.359 Paul Bennowitz too, And then it gets shaped and molded and then turned into 258 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:30.359 something that and then you got Bill Cooper that took that thought from Paul Benowitz 259 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:36.039 and then turned it into a contract that Eisenhower signed with aliens. It was 260 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:41.559 no longer the military that signed the contract with the extraterrestrials. It became Eisenhower 261 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:48.119 that signed the contract with extraterrestrials. And it's just it's unbelieving, and people 262 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:49.720 don't really want to look at that type of stuff because they've been so locked 263 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:56.039 into the lore and the mythology of you know, UFOs and aliens, which 264 00:18:56.240 --> 00:19:00.759 UFOs and aliens are a big part of the conspirac community, whether people really 265 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:06.279 want to recognize it or not. Is. It is a large chunk and 266 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:12.680 because normally whenever people it's like you can take anything that's been blamed on aliens 267 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:19.000 and extra tresturials and you can just replace that with humans and you get the 268 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:23.599 exact same thing. Everything that's been talked about that extra trestrials are doing is 269 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:30.799 what humans are doing to other humans. Is what governments are doing to their 270 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:33.559 own people, to the to their own population. It's what the CIA is 271 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:37.240 doing, It's what the NSA is doing, it's what all these three letter 272 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:41.279 organizations are doing to their own people. You know, that's like the alien 273 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:49.160 human hybrids. Okay, well we just had one of the biggest largest border 274 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:53.519 crisis in US history. What are those people considered. They're considered aliens, 275 00:19:53.599 --> 00:20:03.279 right exactly? Well, if they're right, newcomers, new comers, newcomers, 276 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.519 newcomers into the community. But if we were to if I were to 277 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:10.519 travel to a different country like Shane, if I were to go to Canada, 278 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:15.720 I would be considered an alien because I'm not from that land, i 279 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:21.640 don't live there. I'm an alien to your land. Same as if someone 280 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:25.440 comes from another country in the United States, they are an alien. And 281 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:33.960 then what happens when those aliens breed and mix with people from that native land, 282 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:41.680 they create alien hybrids. Right, It's true. It's true though it's 283 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:45.559 an alien invasion, but it's not an alien invasion from outer space. It's 284 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:52.279 an alien invasion from across the border. I would, dude. I'm telling 285 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:56.160 you and one thing I want everybody to consider about what writers saying. And 286 00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:00.240 you know how I talk about human psychology and in nature a lot on this 287 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:04.839 channel. I mean that is the psychology of the government. Blame it on 288 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:11.200 something else. Get people to look in a different direction than what you're doing. 289 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:15.119 And like I said, I agree with writer. I do think that 290 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:21.720 a lot of what we see as extraterrestrial narrative that's being perpetuated in the mainstream 291 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:25.920 is by our government one hundred percent. So I agree with that wholeheartedly. 292 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:30.079 Shane, what do you think? What do you think is kind of the 293 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:32.839 worst thing going on with this right now? I know you wanted to talk 294 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:37.599 about the person we can't talk about, but you can go ahead and talk 295 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:41.519 about them all you want. Well, definitely, that's not the biggest problem. 296 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:45.160 But that's not the bigger thing. Far away from the biggest problem. 297 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:49.279 Even though people like to believe it's the biggest problem. No, yeah, 298 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:56.519 just kind of following on what writer said, Like he's talked about how the 299 00:21:56.559 --> 00:22:02.200 earliest UFO stories have been adapted over time, But those UFO stories were adapted 300 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:06.440 from other types of law and folk tale that had to do more with entities 301 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:10.880 and spirits than it did with aliens too, Like all of those same cults 302 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:15.200 existed before we had the word alien to throw in there. In fact, 303 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:18.680 that was just a really clever twist and you know, made people a lot 304 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:22.279 of money along the way. So this has been something that we've been doing 305 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:26.880 for a long time because it facilitates cults. Let's just be real about it, 306 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:34.279 right, and going back to the foundation of things is important, Like 307 00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:38.759 we might have learned recently with mathematics. Let's say that you have the equation 308 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:42.799 where you have to multiply one times one and then you have to add two. 309 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:47.240 Well, if you listen to Terrence Howard, then you're going to get 310 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:51.279 that equation wrong because you're going to multiply one times one wrong, right, 311 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:55.799 And so even if you add two correctly to that outcome, your answer is 312 00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:59.519 still wrong. And that's the alternative community is like going all the way back 313 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:03.200 soon said that one times one was two, and we continued all the math 314 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:08.240 from there, and that was it. And for the most case, that 315 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:12.480 is true. And what a writer said about aliens. The other thing I 316 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:15.680 brought up is the reverse of that, which is how long does a species 317 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:22.160 have to be here before they're just native to this planet? Because when we 318 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:23.640 talk about the end KNACKI story, if we were to just kind of take 319 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:27.720 it at face value and they were here for thousands of years, who's the 320 00:23:27.759 --> 00:23:33.319 alien at that point? Didn't they aren't? You know? But this is 321 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:38.160 just something that we do because it works. And I mean, I do 322 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:42.119 have firsthand knowledge, but I don't even need to rely on that at this 323 00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:45.799 point in time because it's so obvious to just point to everything as it's happening 324 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:51.799 and you can see what they're doing. Having a fear of an enemy has 325 00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:56.240 always been important to the country you guys live in, for sure. As 326 00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:59.880 an example, and what was that Reagan speech about how if we had a 327 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.079 one enemy that we could all unite around right then for an enemy from off 328 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:08.400 world that would cause the But of course we we also really had to get 329 00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:11.039 rid of the communists. We really had to get rid of the Nazis before 330 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:14.519 that we really needed to get rid of the Communists, and that we really 331 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:18.200 needed to get rid of the Soviets, right, And how did they use 332 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:21.799 all of that fear propaganda against their public? We can look at it with 333 00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:26.559 Hindsein now and it's pretty clear all the way that they did that they're they 334 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:30.640 use aliens in no different capacity. They use it as the same type of 335 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:34.480 PSIO. And what's even better about that is it it lets them get away 336 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:38.200 with testing all kinds of stuff that they're not telling us that they're testing, 337 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:45.119 right, and that they we don't understand, Like we can have a really 338 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:49.079 early prototype for a NASA outfit land in Alabama one day and have a dis 339 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:52.880 drop police officer takes some photos of them, and we think that it's an 340 00:24:52.880 --> 00:25:00.480 aliot, kidding writer, things like that mic was muted. Bro, Bro, 341 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:07.559 I love the Alabama metal man. Stop talking is real, That's what 342 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.559 I mean. It could just as easily have been that. And you know, 343 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:14.359 with a lot of the stuff that we're seeing now, that's that talking 344 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:18.240 plasma technology that they've been keeping a secret for a while. That's those unmanned 345 00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:25.039 crafts being driven around drones being driven around by AI that they've been talking about. 346 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:26.839 And guys, just look at the way that they reveal this stuff like 347 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:30.920 it comes out of nowhere, right. These things don't come out of nowhere. 348 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:34.480 They have like a seven to fourteen year period before they could even start 349 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:38.680 testing it, and then they have to test it for a long time before 350 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:42.960 it comes out of nowhere. And that's where the programs came in. Was 351 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:47.200 all of this testing that they were doing, right, and we understand, 352 00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:49.559 like we hear about it in Nazi Germany, right the end of all the 353 00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:53.359 Nazi scientists doing all those it wasn't just them. Russia was doing it, 354 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:56.920 China was doing Japan was doing what the Americans were doing, the Canadians were 355 00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:00.480 doing, everybody was doing it. Everyone continued doing it too. The only 356 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.200 thing that happened there is we got to take a group of them and distribute 357 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:06.279 them into all the other places that we're doing it already too. And that 358 00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:07.960 has been what they've been doing all along, and it's leading to all this 359 00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:12.400 technology that we see coming out of nowhere. Right. And you know, 360 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:18.960 through my experience, I saw thousands of people hooked up to this type of 361 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:23.119 technology and I know of zero people who went out of space, right, 362 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:27.440 and since coming out of all of that, I've seen all of that technology 363 00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:33.559 hit the public and I've seen zero people go to space. So, you 364 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.880 know, I don't know what else to say about that. That's interesting, 365 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:41.079 man, we're going to say right or go right ahead. Well, just 366 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:45.640 to piggyback off of what she was saying about Canada doing these kinds of experiments, 367 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:52.559 I mean, it's heavily documented that doctor Hwan Cameron Miguel University in Canada, 368 00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:56.839 who was a mk Ultra contractor. He was being funded by the Cian 369 00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:03.960 and he could do race people's memories through torturous methods. He would drug the 370 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:10.160 patient, he would electro shock them a sleep deprivation, prolonged sleep through the 371 00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:17.039 use of other drugs like benzo diazepem and a whole host of other barbituate sleep 372 00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:25.240 aids, and then he would implant new memories so we'd erase the person's thoughts 373 00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:29.839 and memories and who they thought that they were through a process that was called 374 00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:33.559 depattering. That just I just listed to things that were done in that deep 375 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:40.279 patterning process. And then he would do something that's called psychic driving, where 376 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:47.279 he would go in and the official terminology of what psychic driving is, which 377 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:49.279 it could be a bunch of different things, when we'll tell you the official 378 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:53.839 one is that they would put in a looped audio message, so they would 379 00:27:53.880 --> 00:28:00.599 have like a tape recorder. After the subject had been depatterned, they were 380 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:06.440 taking a tape recorder and with a looped audio message. Anything could have been 381 00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:08.920 on the looped audio message. It could have been you were in a secret 382 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:14.440 space program fighting aliens in space for twenty years, you got injured, and 383 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:18.039 you had all this high technology of doing all this stuff, which I think 384 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:26.920 is the very rudimentary thing of what Sheen is talking about now with the programs. 385 00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:30.599 It's a very rudimentary way of doing it. That's how it was done 386 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:36.480 in the beginning, was like with a taped audio message to implant thoughts and 387 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:40.079 ideas and beliefs into the subjects. Had to get them to believe in something 388 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:44.839 that didn't even happen, So you completely erase their identity, and then you 389 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:49.680 put a new identity directly into their head. And now you can just you 390 00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:55.559 know, take that and replace it with a TV screen. It's no longer 391 00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:57.759 a tape recorder. Now it's a TV screen, so now they're getting a 392 00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:03.519 visual and an audio message. So that's just uh, you know, putting 393 00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.440 it into their head even more. And then you get a device that goes 394 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:12.240 over their head, and then you also have the screen, so then you're 395 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.640 getting it double even more, and then it turns into some sort of VR 396 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:23.200 simulated. Virtual reality is the most high tech version of the process that really 397 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:30.079 slams into the person's psyche all of these false memories and these that's completely false 398 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:41.240 reality identity that is just driven into their head at enormous levels because they believe 399 00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:45.680 that it's real. And we get the Montreal experiments and things like that thrown 400 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:49.759 under the bus, just like with the Nazi scientist example, so that people 401 00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.599 are like, oh, well, we found out about it, they stopped 402 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.920 doing it. They wouldn't be doing that to all of us, now, 403 00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:59.720 would they, right, Which is where we're at now, is they threw 404 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:03.359 all that experimentation. I've been saying for a while, like I started to 405 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.720 notice it in around twenty eighteen and really get bad at twenty twenty. But 406 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.720 they've been mk all cheering the public and they're doing a great job of it. 407 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:15.720 It's working which I'm sure we'll get into too well. I mean that 408 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:21.680 was just important for me to say because there is sheen. He kind of 409 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:27.640 jumps to the to the end with the VR and the whole technology aspect, 410 00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:33.000 but there's there's a whole evolution of it. And the evolution of it started 411 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:37.160 with these mk Ultra programs that were being done in Canada, being done in 412 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.720 the United States, being done at universities. I mean whole wings of hospitals 413 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:48.440 were open to do these run these experimentations on these people. In Another misnomer 414 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.200 is that it was just all LSD. It wasn't all just LSD. There 415 00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:59.799 was reportedly at least one hundred and fifty drugs that was being tested on these 416 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:06.160 patients. And Sidney Gottlieb, which was the face of the Chao Altri programs 417 00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:10.119 in the United States before it was supposedly shut down, had a brother and 418 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:15.039 his brother's name was David Gottlieb, and he was a plant biologist. Why 419 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:18.359 has nobody looked into that. You got a guy that's ahead of the CIA 420 00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:23.039 that is doing all this experimentation on all these people using all these different substances, 421 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:30.720 normally CIA designer drugs and his brother is a plant biologist. That is 422 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:36.200 interesting. The psychology I was pointing to is like what writers said about the 423 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:40.039 evolution. They threw it under the bus early right, like at maybe at 424 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.599 the TV screens like clockwork orange style is where they kind of threw it under 425 00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:47.319 the bus. They never mentioned, you know, everything that followed that, 426 00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:52.559 which has been progressive and does get to like the type of technology that they're 427 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:55.559 talking about having now right, Like once again, it didn't come out of 428 00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.279 nowhere, but I'll let you continue. No, no, no, man, 429 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:01.720 that's that was That was no, And that's that's useful information. I 430 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:06.880 think it really brings to light you know, the where why. I mean, 431 00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.640 I've talked about how we have to have discernment with everything at this point, 432 00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:14.559 you know, we have to really truly I mean and at least in 433 00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:19.279 my eyes, that's part of being a sovereign human being is to to have 434 00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.759 this discernment. But it seems like now, you know, getting on to 435 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.119 the next talking point, that all discernment has has has fallen out the window 436 00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:30.599 when it comes to this community. Man, it's it's like we cannot be 437 00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:37.000 honest anymore, we cannot be objective anymore, and you know, and when 438 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:43.440 we try to bring what we feel is actual, true, objective information to 439 00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.799 the table, we're chastised for it. And you know, it seems like 440 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:50.880 you know, of course, I'm sure you guys can attest this was this 441 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:53.839 was all done by design. But is there also a human nature component to 442 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:57.160 this too? Because when we see, you know, when you get a 443 00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:00.759 lot of I'm gonna use a polite word, not to bright people in a 444 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:06.759 large group, you know what I mean, a lot of interesting things start 445 00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:10.400 to go down, and I think my mentality and group things starts to showcase 446 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:15.839 itself. So I mean, I mean, what is your your your thoughts 447 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:17.480 on this writer, because this is something that we talk about a lot. 448 00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:22.000 It's like you cannot be honest in this community and you cannot be objective in 449 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:28.279 this community anymore. You really can't. And that's the issue is you you 450 00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:37.039 know that you're really onto something when you're just getting attacked and like trolled like 451 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:38.680 all the time, you know what I mean, Like that's just like a 452 00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:43.680 part of it. You know, you're hitting a nerve with people. Now, 453 00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.880 that doesn't mean that everything that you're seeing is one hundred percent truth, 454 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:50.720 because nobody has one hundred percent truth. You know, at a lot of 455 00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:55.079 times people are talking about a little bit of speculation stuff, which is also 456 00:33:55.160 --> 00:34:00.440 important, but it's also important to say, oh, well, this is 457 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:06.359 just speculation, this is this is theorizing, this is something that can't be 458 00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:12.800 proven, because if you don't, then you're just contributing to the deception and 459 00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:15.519 the miss and the disinformation that is already out there. It's like what Bill 460 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:22.480 Moore was talking about that had just covered in this five hour long lecture that 461 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.119 he was giving to the move On conference in nineteen eighty nine. I mean, 462 00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:29.159 he is telling he's laying it all out there. He's like, this 463 00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:32.800 is all not this bullshit nonsense. If you take strip away the fluff, 464 00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.599 you basically just have the Paul Benowitz case. And we know what was going 465 00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.079 on with the Paul Bennowitz case, and it was an unbelievable thing. And 466 00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:46.519 he hit so many good points in that discussion in that lecture, and people 467 00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:52.719 hated it. They hated it. They booed him, they did not like 468 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:54.079 it. They wanted him off of the stage. At one point, they 469 00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:59.039 were turning off the lights on Bill Moore to tell him to get off of 470 00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:00.800 the stage and people were like booing, and then they had to get the 471 00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:05.360 runner of the conference to come up there and be like, I'm very disappointed 472 00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.519 in some people in this crowd right now, you know, and then letting 473 00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:12.840 them continue. But then they just start turning off the lights. And that's 474 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.840 just like part of the course here. When you strip away a lot of 475 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:21.639 the nonsense and a lot of the garbage and a lot of the deception and 476 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:25.400 you get down to the root of it. People don't want to hear it 477 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:31.599 because it's like a you know, like an awakening that people talk about within 478 00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:37.599 the spiritual community where they feel like that they've been lied to their entire life. 479 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:42.079 Well, it's like realizing that you've been lied to your entire life, 480 00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:45.559 thinking that you have that you know more things and know more about the way 481 00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:50.840 that the reality works, and then getting hit with a sledgehammer over your head 482 00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:54.639 and then realizing that those years that you spent trying to figure out things is 483 00:35:54.679 --> 00:36:00.719 also a lie. It's a lie within a lie. And they don't want 484 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:07.360 to go through that process again because if they did, then this community would 485 00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:13.519 kind of just cease to exist, It would no longer exist, and people, 486 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.159 no one would be able to make money off of the community anymore, 487 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:21.360 no one would be able to go to these conferences and talk about these wacky 488 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:27.760 space adventures and extraterrestrials and aliens. That means that that is all over and 489 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:30.000 they don't want that. They have to hang on to that because they've built 490 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:37.719 their entire personality and their entire life around this narrative. And if people don't 491 00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:42.280 believe that, they can they can believe whatever they want, but they have 492 00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.639 a lot of these top speakers in the community have built their entire life and 493 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:50.880 their foundation, especially people within the Secret Space Program and the Super Soldiers. 494 00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:54.679 That's like all that they have, and it's just it's just a coincidence. 495 00:36:54.840 --> 00:37:00.480 And this isn't me talking bad about anyone. I've I've struggled by entire life. 496 00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:02.480 I mean, I was not born into a rich family. I was 497 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:10.519 not born into anything. I was moderately poor. But it's just interesting that 498 00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:16.320 all of the people within the Secret Space Program and the Super Soldier people are 499 00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:22.519 dirt poor. They're living off of food stamps, which just again there's nothing 500 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.440 wrong. I've been on the foodstamps before in my life. Okay, I 501 00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:31.400 get it, I understand it, but it's another level when they're trying to 502 00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:37.239 create something that's going to give them a platform in order to make something of 503 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:39.679 themselves and of their life, when it's based on a lie and it's based 504 00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:43.920 on a fallacy to try and prop themselves up. They're trying to give them 505 00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.239 an audience when there's so many different topics out there to discuss other than but 506 00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:52.480 they just double down on the secret Space Program, super Soldier narrative, you 507 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:58.480 know, hoping for some kind of phrase, hoping for something to boost them 508 00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:02.559 up out of the It's just a grift. It's a giant grift. You 509 00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:07.119 know. It's like, well, why don't you go back and look into 510 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:10.840 the occult like study the occult study serial killers. Do whatever you can. 511 00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:15.159 There's a lot of other communities that you can get your foot in the door 512 00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:22.800 and other than repeating nonsensical garbage that has no basis in reality. I'm with 513 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:24.599 you on that, man. I think, I think, you know, 514 00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:29.719 I mean, we see the profiteering and the grifting, you know, constantly, 515 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:35.679 you know, especially with the fearmongerers, the doomsday individuals. There's one 516 00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:38.079 offhand that I give a lot of shit. I'm not going to name names. 517 00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:43.320 But you know, it's funny how he's he's constantly trying to get us 518 00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:47.719 ready for this cataclysm that's supposed to occur in the year twenty forty when the 519 00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:52.760 Sun's supposed to burp in micro nova at the Earth. But he's really getting 520 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:57.679 people back into the bipartisan system. He wants you to vote Republican while he's 521 00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:01.840 while he's preaching the h you know, the doomsday cult on top of that. 522 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:04.840 So I'm with you, man, I see the griff Shane. What's 523 00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:07.360 your what's your response on that? Oh? Man, I think I forgot 524 00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:16.280 the question at this point. It sounds all good. Run, No, 525 00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:20.159 it's all good. So I mean here, we'll start off with you do 526 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.079 on this, man, So let's talk about the you know, because this 527 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.159 is something we've we've talked about a lot. Let's talk about the Trump Biden 528 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:30.760 thing that's currently at play right now. Do you think I mean, and 529 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.000 I'm sure you could probably answer this is is this a form of MK ultra 530 00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:37.559 that's going on with these with these two candidates, and and if it is, 531 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:42.519 would you please elaborate so the viewers can understand this because I feel like 532 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.960 this is something i've been trying to say for quite some time and nobody wants 533 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:47.920 to hear it. This is actually it will help me because I can answer 534 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.440 the last question too, like I've been kind of doing this for a long 535 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.320 time, and you know, I have a story that doesn't have any verifiable 536 00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.280 proof for people like I can't you know, sit you down and be like, 537 00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:02.639 this is why I know it. And but I don't rely on just 538 00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:07.000 that to speak because I can still see the rest of the world and make 539 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:12.000 sense of it. Right. And but going all the way back, one 540 00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.000 of the first things before anyone had ever seen my face, and I thought 541 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:16.559 that that would never happen. Someone's like, well, if you know so 542 00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:20.239 much, tell us something that we don't know. And I'm like, Donald 543 00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.239 Trump will be your next president. It's going to change everything and things will 544 00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:28.000 never be the same again. And I elaborated to go on about how like 545 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:30.840 basically, if you will accept that manage your president, they know they can 546 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:35.480 do whatever they want to you, and you know they're going to give you 547 00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:39.000 that first four years to see if you finally stand up and say what the 548 00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:45.320 and if you don't, then they're going to continue to be even more absurd. 549 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:47.599 So what happened four years later, they put a corpse in his place. 550 00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:54.159 Right when I was watching that most recent debate, I was like, 551 00:40:54.639 --> 00:41:00.960 oh my goodness, Like they really are just it's almost like they're just performing 552 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:06.079 a humiliation ritual on you, all right, and that's that. It's like, 553 00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:09.519 I mean, they're literally abusing an old man on television. They're literally 554 00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:15.559 propping up a caricature of a human being on television, and they're making you 555 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.199 vote for these two clowns, like or one of these two clowns. It's 556 00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:25.360 the most ridiculous thing. And the insane culture cult worship on either side from 557 00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:30.719 both sides both Like when I say cult worship, it's hate and the love. 558 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.679 You know, this is the tweet. I forget who actually said it, 559 00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.360 but it sounds something like, please God give me the Trump that the 560 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:43.239 leftists have created in their delusional minds. I don't remember who said it, 561 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.960 but I saw the tweet. I know what you're talking about that I would 562 00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:49.360 repeat that, but like or the Trump that the right wing has created in 563 00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:52.519 their delusional minds, because neither one of those two Trumps exist for real. 564 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:57.880 Right, what we're actually dealing with is barely a human being. And I'm 565 00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:01.760 not saying like he's possessed by some I'm saying that he's basically a cartoon, 566 00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:07.480 like a living cartoon, Like there's not anything real there. He's just gonna 567 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.639 do what he has to do in order to be that caricature, right, 568 00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:16.199 And so the worship on both sides, the fear of him is ridiculous. 569 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:20.800 The I thought that he's gonna somehow save you. Did you guys forget the 570 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.199 first four years? And that he's gonna kill us? Did you guys forget 571 00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:29.599 the first four years? It's like there's like either side, they're both absolutely 572 00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:31.559 out to lunch. And I honestly didn't think they'd ever get this far, 573 00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:37.199 Like I didn't think that people would get this far gone with all of this 574 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:40.280 stuff. But that is how absurd it is. Is it's crazy making, 575 00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:45.199 right, Like we hear about that expression when it comes from narcissists, but 576 00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.719 that scales up to sociopaths and even further to psycho pass Crazy making is their 577 00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:53.280 game, and that's exactly what they've done to the public. And I like 578 00:42:54.559 --> 00:43:00.559 because I never believed that they would pull this off. To see how stunningly 579 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:06.519 they have it's mind blowing me and I agree. Yeah, I agree, 580 00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:10.000 dude, I totally agree. I'm with you. I didn't I personally didn't 581 00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:13.079 think it was going to get this far. But you know, the one 582 00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:15.880 thing they always said, you know for a while now is even the most 583 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:21.000 seasoned of us would be surprised at, you know, at what happens. 584 00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.760 And you know, there's I'll tell you at this point, there's no shortage 585 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:28.920 of surprises when it comes to what's happening here. I'll tell you that, 586 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.119 writer, what are your thoughts on that? Man, do you think that 587 00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:38.159 this is which is some kind of mk ultra like hypnosis, that's that's almost 588 00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:44.440 kind of hypnotizing the masses into this cult, Like Shame was saying, this 589 00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:49.880 cult following like losing their focus on what's really important and just drawing their focus 590 00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:53.360 onto these individuals. Well, I just think that it's interesting that they really 591 00:43:53.400 --> 00:44:00.840 haven't built anybody else up on the Democratic side. There is no body else, 592 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.199 because as soon as the debates were over, everyone was like, they're 593 00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.280 gonna replace Boden, They're gonna switch them out in there with Kamala Harris is 594 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:12.480 gonna be up there, or Michelle Obama. She's gonna swap in for Biden. 595 00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.239 I'm like, no, they're not. But one, we got four 596 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:19.840 months until the freaking election. Are you kidding me? They you know how 597 00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:23.679 long Trump has been campaigning. He's been campaigning basically since he lost the election 598 00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:29.280 in twenty twenty. That's how long he's been campaigning for presidency. You're telling 599 00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:35.320 me that they're gonna bring somebody else in and they're gonna fit almost four years 600 00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:39.000 of campaigning into four months. Are you out of your mind? That's not 601 00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:43.920 going to happen. And if it does, it just shows you how ridiculous 602 00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:49.159 of a country that we live in that the leaders at the top really think 603 00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:54.599 that somebody that has only been running for president for four months can beat somebody 604 00:44:54.639 --> 00:45:00.239 that's been running for four years and that was president before, you know. 605 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:06.920 So that's a really big error on people's And that's another thing within the community. 606 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.719 Everyone's immediate like, oh, they got to they got to have Biden 607 00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:15.519 stepped down, blah blah blah blah. And that really actually influenced the mainstream 608 00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:20.559 media because the mainstream media is also talking about it, and I don't think 609 00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:24.039 that they would have if all the big popular alternative media people were talking about 610 00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:27.519 it, they would have just kept on. They would have cut it all 611 00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:31.519 up, cut the the big it up into a way that people can not 612 00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:39.039 see the mental cognitivity of Biden, to kind of brush it off and run 613 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:45.400 little bits and little segments on how Biden is so great. So I really 614 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:51.280 think that that was an influence from the alternative community that actually influenced the mainstream 615 00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:54.360 media in that narrative. But when it comes to Biden, he's obviously he 616 00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:58.559 has zero. Well, before we get into that, I want to talk 617 00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:05.760 about this twenty twenty five document, the stupid twenty five bullshit document that everyone's 618 00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:10.079 been uh, you know, talking about that freaking Stephen King has been retweeting 619 00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:15.880 that all the show him. I can't, I cannot stand. I'm sorry, 620 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:22.079 guys. All right, it's really a policy proposal of it's I think 621 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:30.159 it's like around one thousand pages, uh, for an incoming Republican, which 622 00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:35.400 that incoming Republican is supposedly is supposedly going to be Trump right now. A 623 00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:39.800 section of it does talk about like abortion, like uh, like three sentences 624 00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:45.199 out of the thousand pages or whatever, and everyone's calling it like a document 625 00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:51.400 of hate, like it's it's Nazi Germany document, you know, and it's 626 00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.000 uh, but it deals with a lot of things. It deals with the 627 00:46:53.039 --> 00:47:00.920 you know, finances, the culture, to the Republicans, to the Democrats, 628 00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:07.840 and the Democrats really hate it because they've they've I was at the gym 629 00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:15.639 yesterday and see obviously CNN and MSNBC is on the TVs at the gym, 630 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:23.880 and it's set under project Operation Project twenty twenty five to over just to stock 631 00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:28.639 the Supreme Court justices, to overrule the Supreme Court justice and what the fu. 632 00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:32.400 But everything is just an agenda. Now, you got agenda, Agenda 633 00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:37.840 twenty twenty five, you got Agenda twenty thirty. It's like they're just put 634 00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:43.039 it's a it's an alternative. It's it's just the way that the alternative community 635 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:50.599 has bled through into the mainstream community. But this twenty twenty five thing has 636 00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:57.239 nothing to do with Donald Trump. It's not a policy. It's yeah, 637 00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:00.480 it doesn't have anything to do with their it's it's not even a policy for 638 00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:07.800 an incoming president or even the Republican Party, right, and they do it 639 00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:12.199 every four years, So it is you know, like once again looking at 640 00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:15.920 the foundation, it's not Trump's thing. It's the Heritage Foundation. So let's 641 00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:19.480 look at them. They've existed for a long time. They've done the same 642 00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.119 thing over and over and over again. Nothing's ever come from it because nobody 643 00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:28.679 takes them seriously because they produce trash like that, right, But like the 644 00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:32.400 media running with it like that is just just beautiful because it's like I've been 645 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:35.960 saying and with the alternative community for a long time, that we have a 646 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:42.039 comprehension problem that most people aren't comprehending what they're hearing. They're really just hearing 647 00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.559 the big sexy story. They're not really comprehending what's going on. And that's 648 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:51.760 the same thing with that. It's like anyone who just reads it can comprehend 649 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:54.960 this is a nothing burger, but people who don't know how to read that 650 00:48:55.280 --> 00:49:00.599 can't. Right. It's very much like you know, it's not that I've 651 00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:04.360 never trusted scientists. I just know that a lot of them lie. And 652 00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:07.679 I know how to read science, right, But if you don't know how 653 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:09.679 to read science, then you have to rely. And it's the same thing 654 00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:14.480 with politics. If you don't know how to read newspapers, then you don't 655 00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:20.280 understand, right. And what has been baffling me, is the people on 656 00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:22.639 the left freaking out about the fact that they're no longer allowed to break their 657 00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:30.679 own laws, that their own Supreme Court justice has decided that they have to 658 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:35.639 follow the law their own constitution, and somehow that's a problem, and that 659 00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:39.079 guy is going to be a fascist, Like I don't understand. It's like 660 00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:43.199 it's one of the most narcissistic Like I know you are, but one am 661 00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.880 I things I've ever seen. Like you guys literally have spent the last four 662 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:50.559 years breaking every law under the sun that you possibly can, im bending the 663 00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:53.920 ones that you can't, all for your own political gain, And now you 664 00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:57.639 want me to worry that that guy's going to come in and do the same 665 00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:02.920 thing you guys are already doing. Like it's just I don't know what I'm 666 00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:07.760 supposed to be scared of. It is gas lighting at its finest. That's 667 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.639 gas lighting right there. I call it. I call it the five year 668 00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:14.679 old mentality. It's like a five year old kid on the playground where they're 669 00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:16.800 with their friends, Like like me and my friends can do it, but 670 00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:22.840 you can't, okay, Like that's that's it's literally what it sounds like to 671 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:24.199 me. I mean, we've all been there when we were younger. We 672 00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:27.679 were the kid who was like, I can do it, but you can't. 673 00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:30.679 And that's I mean, that's basically what it is. It's like we're 674 00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:37.519 looking at a collective that is like adorned this child like mentality like throughout like 675 00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:43.079 this, this whole whole situation, and it is it's almost as if like 676 00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:46.800 the the and my theory behind it is it's because what they do is they 677 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:54.320 they're consistently hitting the very deep emotional triggers of the collective with all of this 678 00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:58.880 stuff. And this is why this has happened, because you know, when 679 00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:02.800 you when you push another buttons like that, you're gonna have people throw any 680 00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:07.599 common sense and rational thinking out of the window, and you're gonna have people 681 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:13.039 just acting like a whole bunch of children, just emotionally immature children. But 682 00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:15.039 you know, one thing I want to ask you to you know, since 683 00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:20.880 we're talking about this, this has been a huge thing that's been going around 684 00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.880 and I've kind of theorized myself, do you feel that some of the top 685 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:32.199 people in the alternative media community are potentially instilled there to do what they're doing. 686 00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:37.840 Are they potentially some kind of actors of some kind, or are they 687 00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:45.400 instilled to keep the diversion of everything going on and everybody chasing their tails? 688 00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.760 I mean, what do you think about that? I think it's a Devil's 689 00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.320 Advocate quote of I just set the stage, you pull your own strings. 690 00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:57.800 I like that. Yeah, I think that's what has happened. It's what 691 00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:01.000 I've been saying about whistleblowers since Corey Good was that, like, they don't 692 00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:05.679 need to put disinformation agents in there anymore, they don't need to mind control 693 00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:08.280 these people directly, because we have people who are just going to come along 694 00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:14.199 and do it themselves right and play those roles. And ever since I said 695 00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:17.119 that, we've had a parade of them, right, Like I have a 696 00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:22.039 pretty public debate with one that that I know writer knows too, and like, 697 00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:23.320 you know, this is what we've had ever since I said that, 698 00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:27.880 Because that's that's and that's it, I think. And the same thing is 699 00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:30.679 true for even like a Joe Rogan, Like I don't think that he needs 700 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:35.400 a CIA handler sitting beside him telling him what to do. I think Joe 701 00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.920 Rogan's personality just fills in all of that hole for him, right, And 702 00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:42.719 I think the same thing with like a canvass Owns or a Tucker Carlson or 703 00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:47.760 a whatever those the Twin Cradssteen boys are and like all these different other people 704 00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:51.199 on the left as well, Like, I don't think that they need to 705 00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:55.760 actually puppet these people because what you said was true. They started hitting everybody 706 00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:00.559 here, right, And when we're really activated here, we don't use this 707 00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:05.039 at all. It's why in ocult you're always going to jump bump into the 708 00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:07.400 trivia method is because that's part of the mystery schools. It's almost the foundation 709 00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:10.000 of them is to keep that in order of thought, feeling, action, 710 00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:14.679 because when your feelings are in the way, you don't think properly. When 711 00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:19.800 your feelings activated, all you're hearing is beep. And the only thing make 712 00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:23.000 that deep go away is Donald Trump or Joe Biden, whichever when you prefer, 713 00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:28.320 right, it's the only thing because that's here, right. But while 714 00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.039 that's happening, we're not using this, and that's why they're being able to 715 00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:36.239 fill this for us. And our actions follow here though, right, So 716 00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:38.800 this is all activated, we're not listening, we're throwing hands up in the 717 00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:43.000 air. They get to fill this and then the trickle down ends up being 718 00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:47.320 the actions that they want us to take. And so it's playing on human 719 00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:53.079 nature and perverting the reward system so that people just do it themselves. And 720 00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:55.559 I'm sure writer can speak to that, because we see a ton of it 721 00:53:55.599 --> 00:54:00.880 in this community, right with like just the individuals like I don't believe for 722 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:06.239 one second that I don't know, I don't really like individual like James Rink 723 00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:08.760 is being controlled by any type of handle or I think he's just a desperate 724 00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:14.159 man who doesn't have any identity outside of being a fake super soldier on the 725 00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:17.440 internet. Right, Like if Shane the Ruiner went away tomorrow, I'm fine. 726 00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:21.519 You know, I've walked away from this community for up to two years 727 00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:25.079 at a time, and I was perfectly fine. But these people can't say 728 00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:29.280 that. I've even challenged them. Won't you step away for six months? 729 00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:31.599 I dare you? And they won't do it right, And it's because they 730 00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:37.199 can't for that reason, and that's why they don't need to remote mind control 731 00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:42.239 us or send the CIA in unless we're gigantic and really getting out of line. 732 00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.960 Maybe, but at this point in time, there's too many different voices 733 00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:50.440 already that you don't really need to do that because even if Candice Owns starts 734 00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:53.119 running around saying that Bridget mccuran's a woman or a man. Sorry, Like 735 00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:59.320 you know, it's easy enough for people to just tune that out. And 736 00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:00.440 the one thing I want to sy that you summed up before we get the 737 00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:04.239 writer or no, You're absolutely right. We do do it to ourselves. 738 00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:07.960 And that was you know, one of the biggest things in twenty twenty, 739 00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:12.280 you know, with the koof and everything that was going on with that, 740 00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:19.920 they didn't have to police anything. Our own people policed each other. So 741 00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:23.159 like this is a good analogy for you know what you're talking about, Shane. 742 00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:27.119 We do it to ourselves. We can make ourselves crazy, we can 743 00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:30.159 police each other. I totally agree with that, right, what are your 744 00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:37.480 thoughts? Then? It's just so interesting to me that they play both sides 745 00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:40.840 of the aisle, and that's what they've been doing for a really long time. 746 00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:49.199 They fund and they control both sides. They are the creators of the 747 00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:54.199 miss and disinformation and the deception, while on the other hand saying that we 748 00:55:54.280 --> 00:56:00.639 need to stop miss and disinformation and deception, right, playing both ends of 749 00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:04.800 it, and I have it's just like that Vice article. Then I just 750 00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.280 posted about the other day on Twitter, and I showed on my show with 751 00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:17.599 Dana yesterday saying that you know, uh, scientists are saying that if you 752 00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:23.760 research and you look into things, then that leads to conspiracy theorizing. Like, 753 00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:30.280 okay, well what is involved in research? Researching just means that you're 754 00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:37.079 reading. So they're saying that if you're reading, then you're a conspiracy theorist. 755 00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:39.880 Well, how did they come to that conclusion? How did those scientists 756 00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:44.719 come to that conclusion that they had to have read some stuff? Right? 757 00:56:45.719 --> 00:57:00.360 Super, we just broke the matrix, just shoving the dolarge off the page. 758 00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:07.039 I have a clip though from Barack Obama that I haven't the thing here 759 00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:10.039 that I want to everyone to listen to understand. It's not necessary for people 760 00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:14.119 to believe you tell you tell you tell me when you want me to hit 761 00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:16.360 it real quick man. Sorry about that. All good. I played this 762 00:57:16.480 --> 00:57:20.840 machine. I played it with Andy a couple of weeks ago, and I 763 00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:28.400 think that it's just the best, uh encompassing nature of everything that we've really 764 00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:30.679 been talking about here, and we can expand on it afterwards. But this 765 00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:37.400 just lays it all out there like perfectly, an amazing conspiracy burrito, an 766 00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:42.559 amazing cult burrito. Sorry, And where he's saying this speech is important too 767 00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:46.360 because it's a cyber policy center, right, So it's about the Internet stuff, 768 00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:52.920 it's about social media, it's about what we do. So we go, 769 00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:57.960 let's roll on it. Understand, it's not necessary for people to believe 770 00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:05.480 this information. In order to weaken democratic institutions. You just have to flood 771 00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:10.719 a country's public square with enough raw sewage. You just have to raise enough 772 00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:22.519 questions, spread enough dirt, plant enough conspiracy theorizing that citizens no longer know 773 00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:30.559 what to believe. Once they lose trust in their leaders, in mainstream media, 774 00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:39.639 in political institutions, in each other, in the possibility of truth. 775 00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:50.199 The game's won there, it is. He just said it in the most 776 00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:54.159 perfectly elegant way. I mean, people can talk about Obama as much as 777 00:58:54.239 --> 00:59:00.639 they want, but man could speak. The man could get up there and 778 00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:06.840 given an amazing speech. He was very persistent system in the way that that 779 00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:14.039 he spoke. And it's wild that we transferred from that. It's kind of 780 00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:19.440 like what she was talking about from that to a reality TV star and then 781 00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:25.320 into a bumbling idiot that obviously has some a lot of mental problems and probably 782 00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:32.320 dementia and all Alzheimer's. On stage, I was gonna say, what does 783 00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:36.920 that he was? He squatted over and he looked like he was pooping and 784 00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:42.320 pooping during that kind of say answer. Well, before Trump, the Obama 785 00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:45.039 was a test too, because it was like, what happens if we put 786 00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:50.239 this guy who looks perfect and does all the wrong things? Does anybody notice 787 00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:54.320 right if he literally breaks every law that he could possibly break, he's literally 788 00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:59.559 killing your own citizens. He's you know, starting killing more people than But 789 00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:02.079 he looks good, he sounds great, right, all of that, So 790 01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:08.599 it's okay. And the important thing that he said there, and there's different 791 01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:15.199 directions that we're getting to this but not knowing what to believe, right, 792 01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:17.920 people tend to give up at that point in time and they just decide that 793 01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:22.440 they don't believe anything. And the other side that comes through the truth movement 794 01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:28.079 is that you can't possibly be sure of anything. There is no objective reality, 795 01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:30.519 right. Well, the end result is that that is the same that 796 01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:36.360 you don't really believe anything, and when you don't have conviction in anything, 797 01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:39.280 you act like you don't have conviction in anything, and then you can be 798 01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:45.719 very easily steered around by either side of this political puppet stream or the alternative 799 01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:51.880 community, public's public strings, or whichever, because why you can't know, 800 01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:57.039 right, You couldn't possibly know, but somebody must. So I'll just keep 801 01:00:57.079 --> 01:01:00.440 going where everybody else is going as long as I like this. It's the 802 01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:06.440 smell of that room. Yeah, that's exactly. But it's so interesting because 803 01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:12.719 Andy brought this up in our conversation. He said that that is exactly what 804 01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:17.360 Juri Bezmanov was talking about in nineteen eighty three, the KGB defector in nineteen 805 01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:22.719 eighty three. We almost gave that identical thing that Obama just said, Like 806 01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:28.679 all the things that we just heard Obama talk about, also what Juri Bezmanov 807 01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:32.320 said, and just a different kind of words back in nineteen eighty three. 808 01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:37.320 It's and I made a reel of it, and it's verbatim the exact same 809 01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:44.159 thing. Wasn't that interview on the news? Right? He was talking about 810 01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:49.159 how the you know, the KGP, the KGB doesn't spend as much money 811 01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:53.559 in espionage as the United States thinks it does. If they wanted to take 812 01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:57.320 down a country. This is how they would do it over generations, isn't 813 01:01:57.320 --> 01:02:01.960 that interview? Am I correct about the subversion of an entire country and the 814 01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:09.039 four steps to subvert a country destabilization, demoralization, crisis, and then normalization. 815 01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:15.679 And he's you know, your rebustment office Like hey, like, if 816 01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:20.880 you create enough confusion, then that makes it to where no one no longer 817 01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:23.920 knows what to believe. They don't trust anyone. They don't trust their friends, 818 01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:28.440 they don't trust their family, they don't trust their neighbor, they don't 819 01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:31.760 trust their institutions exactly themselves. That's a big fun. Yeah, sorry, 820 01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:35.840 that is a big one. No, I would completely agree with that. 821 01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:37.280 I think, I think, you know, I mean, I remember when 822 01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:42.960 I first saw that interview, probably like ten years ago at this point, 823 01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:46.440 you know, I I really saw it and it started to make sense in 824 01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:50.840 the aspect of what was going on, you know, in my younger years. 825 01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:52.480 But like I've told Rider before, you know, I fell for the 826 01:02:53.320 --> 01:03:00.760 New Age scam in the beginning. Luckily I wised up and after that and 827 01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.960 understood that it was a kind of a sham in and of itself. But 828 01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:07.039 no same thing man, that you could even see it applicable going on right 829 01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:10.840 now even in the alternative community, and you can see this kind of applicable 830 01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:15.480 to everything. And you know, I think, you know, kind of 831 01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:16.960 what we're hitting at here, guys again is like, you know, we 832 01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:22.119 we have to understand that there is foundational principles and what's going on as what 833 01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:25.679 Shane is saying for sure, and you know, we have to to know 834 01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:30.880 that we have to just use discernment and we and the biggest thing you guys 835 01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:35.079 talked about too is man just fucking reading the goddamn paperwork, like just just 836 01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:37.719 to read it, you know, Like I think, really, you know, 837 01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:40.119 I think, you know, it's kind of a vicious cycle too, 838 01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:45.159 because you know, if you look at the world today on how it's it's 839 01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:47.199 either it's either it's a double edged sword. I think, yes, there's 840 01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:51.559 there's uh, there's people, there's people taking advantage of it, but it's 841 01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:52.599 even us too. You know. It's like you look at our day to 842 01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:57.519 day lives where a lot of people are so swamped and busy, that's where 843 01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:00.280 they're going to get their information. They're going to get their information from a 844 01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:03.559 thirty second reel, you know, as opposed to looking up the actual document 845 01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:08.519 itself, and which pisses me off so much, Steven, it pisses me 846 01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:11.519 off so much. If that's the case, I'm with you because I'm a 847 01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:13.920 guy that two. I like to read things I don't like to just you 848 01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:15.800 know, I like to look at papers and things like that and actually read 849 01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:20.039 over stuff. I'm with you on that. It's just like people would rather 850 01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:26.079 like my short little reels, and my short little clips like do so much 851 01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:33.360 better than my normal show does on everything. Dude, Like I can post 852 01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:39.519 something on TikTok and get a thousand views in like five minutes, you know, 853 01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:46.880 and I'm struggling to get a thousand views on my regular shows. It's 854 01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:51.719 wild and I it like makes me want to just like stop doing it. 855 01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:55.599 But at the same time, I'm like, well, you know, as 856 01:04:55.719 --> 01:04:59.480 long as it's getting out there in some way, and maybe one or two 857 01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:03.800 of those people out of those thousands of people that has watched this minute clip, 858 01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:09.760 maybe one or two of them check out the full thing, you know, 859 01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:14.559 and that's worth it. I guess. It's just really frustrating and the 860 01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:23.920 way the platforms treat real solid information is ridiculous as well, they like, 861 01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:27.599 my stuff should be just blowing everything out of the water, but it just 862 01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:31.199 it doesn't. And that's really discouraging as well, you know, because I 863 01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:34.760 know that it's good and it's been proven that it's good. I mean, 864 01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:40.559 I have videos on TikTok that have like close to half a million views, 865 01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:44.360 you know, and I know the things that I put out as quality, 866 01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:46.320 and I know that it's really good, but they it just does not want 867 01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:50.239 to be pushed because it's lumped in with all this nonsense, garbage, bullshit, 868 01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:55.760 you know what I mean. I feel you on that, man. 869 01:05:55.800 --> 01:06:00.159 And you know, I think, well, the one thing I've seen of 870 01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:02.719 these platforms do and I'm sure Shane can agree with me when I say this, 871 01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:08.159 they seem to pop up the the what I call the the limited hangouts, 872 01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:14.400 uh, the the sensationalists, you know, and the the fearmongers, 873 01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:19.400 and then just the individuals who are just really causing like a lot of hardcore 874 01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:24.239 division even further. So that's what it seems like to me. And and 875 01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:26.519 and I feel you on that, writer, because it sucks when you have 876 01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:29.159 somebody, I mean, you have a documentary and that's out on Amazon, 877 01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:32.239 you know, and Uh, you've put a lot of work into what you 878 01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:36.360 do, and uh, you know, I can understand your frustration behind that 879 01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:40.199 one hundred percent. But but Shane, let's let's hear it, hear your 880 01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:51.519 thoughts on this as well. I don't I've said it all already. No, 881 01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:56.639 no, no, you know we're going in circles because ultimately, people 882 01:06:56.679 --> 01:07:00.880 aren't really looking for the truth. They're looking for a big sexy story and 883 01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:04.880 they've woken up to go back to sleep in a different dream. And you 884 01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:11.239 know, from my whistle blower knowledge, the one thing that they told me 885 01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:14.480 over and over again was that they, like I didn't think that they could 886 01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:16.159 do this, but they kept saying that they would make people want it. 887 01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:23.400 And you know today that like every day that's just ringing in my ears is 888 01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:28.440 like almost their laughter, because it does sure as hell seem to me like 889 01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:32.000 people want it at this point in time, Like they don't want freedom, 890 01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:36.800 they don't want truth. They want a comfortable lie that they can disappear to 891 01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:45.199 the multiverse with. And that's all the problem. And ideology is very important, 892 01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:49.400 and you know, the ideology that the alternative community shares is the same 893 01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:56.159 ideology they fight against with the mainstream community, right, Like everything that most 894 01:07:56.239 --> 01:07:59.480 alternative community people will point to about the mainstream, they'll be like, this 895 01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:00.960 is wrong, this is wrong. You guys are doing the same thing. 896 01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:04.760 You're just doing it with a different flavor, kind of like I've said, 897 01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:10.920 like super Soldier Furry, explain to me the difference. In a lot of 898 01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:15.359 cases, there isn't one right and and that's it's sad to see. But 899 01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:19.119 at the same time, we you know, we can do better, and 900 01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:23.920 I know that we can. And you know, I've watched this community go 901 01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:29.279 through bad cycles before and will bounce back from this one too, just like 902 01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:32.960 humanity always will, and so will we. But for now, we should 903 01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:39.199 be trying to be more disciplined, trying to be more responsible with what we're 904 01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:42.760 doing here, because, like writer has said, we are the new media. 905 01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:45.920 Everybody, like even the audience is part of the new media. And 906 01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:51.039 you have a responsibility now. And if what you truly want is truth and 907 01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:56.479 what you truly want is change, then make sure your actions prove that to 908 01:08:56.560 --> 01:09:00.239 the world instead of just your words. That dude, and I think you're 909 01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:04.039 one hundred percent right on that. And the one thing I want to say 910 01:09:04.199 --> 01:09:08.680 is, you know, is the biggest thing we could be doing to change 911 01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:15.600 things is focusing on creating the existences that we truly wish and desire. That's 912 01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:20.279 one of the biggest things we can truly do to change things. And I'm 913 01:09:20.319 --> 01:09:23.560 with you on that too. It's almost as if, like you know, 914 01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:27.840 people wake up to go back to sleep in a different dream. It's not 915 01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:32.000 a it's almost as if, you know, I hear the laughter that you 916 01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:35.279 heard. Also, man, because I look at I look at this today, 917 01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:38.680 like right in front of me, and I'm just like, holy shit. 918 01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:42.239 Sometimes, like you know, I do realize the magnitude. I look 919 01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:45.680 at it and I'm like, this is this is one hell of a wall. 920 01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:48.199 It's gotten a little bit bigger. It's gotten a little bit bigger over 921 01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:51.760 the past few years, you know. So, but uh, and stop 922 01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:56.239 thinking that everything is a freaking signop. Everything's not a freaking sign up. 923 01:09:56.359 --> 01:10:00.439 Like things happen, like things naturally occur in our reality. It's like the 924 01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:03.680 conspiracy in the truth of community want to make it where nature just doesn't nature 925 01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:09.560 anymore. Nature still, Nature's nature has been naturing since the beginning of time. 926 01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:14.079 Okay, natural things happen, that's just the way that it is okay, 927 01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:18.520 and people are so freaking blackpilled to the point that they can't see anything 928 01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:24.079 but a freaking syop or some kind of controlled opposition, and that's why they 929 01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:27.840 attack each other. That's why they're always like this at each other all the 930 01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:30.720 time. Twenty four to seven. No one ever says, oh, hey, 931 01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:34.680 we should collaborate, we should like bring our minds together, we should 932 01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:39.079 come together on this and work together, and maybe we'll figure out something that 933 01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:42.239 we didn't know, maybe we can actually get to the bottom of this, 934 01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:45.680 maybe we can actually possibly change something. But instead, it's like we're just 935 01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:47.920 fighting with each other and butting heads against each other. No I'm right, 936 01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:51.199 No, you're right, No, i'm you're wrong. I'm right, I'm 937 01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:57.520 right, you're wrong. And it's like created this ridiculous type of back and 938 01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:00.680 forth within the community. And that's really the way that it's been for a 939 01:11:00.760 --> 01:11:06.399 really long time. And I believe that that's done on purpose, that is 940 01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:13.239 done for a reason, and it's it's just unbelievable the way that you see 941 01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:16.439 people treat each other within the community. I'm like, whose side are you 942 01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:20.279 on? Bro? Like, whose side are you really? And then they're 943 01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:28.520 so jealous of other individuals that are that are doing better than they are doing, 944 01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:31.600 which makes absolutely no sense. We should be lifting these people up. 945 01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:34.479 We should be sharing their content. We should be putting out their content. 946 01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:38.760 We should be liking their content. We should be reacting to it, we 947 01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:44.039 should be commenting on it with good and positive things, even if you don't 948 01:11:44.239 --> 01:11:45.960 agree with them. Like me and she and't have talked about several times, 949 01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:49.359 I listen to people all the time that I don't like or that I disagree 950 01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:55.119 with, because maybe somewhere and that I can get a different perspective, somewhere 951 01:11:55.119 --> 01:12:00.359 in that my mind could possibly be changed by what somebody else says that I 952 01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:04.319 hadn't thought about before. And this whole idea is that if you disagree with 953 01:12:04.359 --> 01:12:08.439 someone, that means that you hate them or that you don't like them. 954 01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:12.239 That is not the case. What happened is like civil debate, there's people 955 01:12:12.359 --> 01:12:15.279 just like not debating anymore. And that's another thing that goes back to Trump. 956 01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:20.359 Trump turned the ties on freaking debating. He just got up there and 957 01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:26.600 just like insulted the ship out of Hillary Clinton, which yeah, yeah, 958 01:12:26.760 --> 01:12:33.359 exactly. It's like that Family Guy episode where Lois is running for mayor or 959 01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:42.680 whatever, and she just walks out there and says, nine eleven, that's 960 01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:45.520 what it is. You changed the whole game. He turned it into an 961 01:12:46.479 --> 01:12:51.920 internet chat room in a legitimate presidential debate. Well, and we changed the 962 01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:57.880 timeline because don't you remember Smoky the Bear said only dudes can start forest fires. 963 01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:05.479 In my timeline, bro, what timeline? In my timeline it was 964 01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:15.479 Giuyetti. Smoking never existed. There was no stay. I'll tell you skets 965 01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:19.279 people get it right. But dude, writer, you hit a very good 966 01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:23.319 point, man, because like that's what how I feel. I feel like 967 01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:27.239 we're all comrades here. I really do, Like I feel like, you 968 01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:30.479 know, you know, yeah, there's the same thing. There's there's people 969 01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:32.479 that I don't one hundred I've had people on the show that I donte one 970 01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:35.279 hundred percent agree with. I mean, there was a guy not too long 971 01:13:35.319 --> 01:13:38.800 ago. He was a great guy. It was a great conversation. Like, 972 01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:42.000 don't get me wrong, but like didn't a hundred percent agree with everything 973 01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:45.880 you're saying. But I still have respect for him in the fact that he 974 01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:48.760 put this much work into this research, like you know, he he did. 975 01:13:48.840 --> 01:13:53.000 He was very educated in what he was talking about. I mean he 976 01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:56.439 did. He opened my eyes to some things that you know, I had 977 01:13:56.439 --> 01:13:59.960 to go back and reevaluate. And I think, I think that's true critical 978 01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:03.079 thinking? Is it not? Like I mean, it's it's true critical thinking. 979 01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:06.640 Isn't that what this community was supposed to be founded upon? Was critical 980 01:14:06.680 --> 01:14:11.039 thinking? And like common sense? Isn't that what this was originally supposed to 981 01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:15.479 be? But yet it's not now anymore. Anytime anything happens that seems set 982 01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:19.119 tabit like anything on the world stage, like within the hour, dude, 983 01:14:19.239 --> 01:14:23.680 people are on it. They're like, oh no, it wasn't really that. 984 01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:26.720 It was it was freaking aliens. It was it was a mall alien. 985 01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:29.760 I got a I got a video recording or someone sent me that was 986 01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:33.640 there when the the mall in Miami. They said that there were aliens. 987 01:14:33.640 --> 01:14:36.800 There was twelve foot tall aliens that were outside. That's why all the cops 988 01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:42.520 were rolling up. It's I don't know, dude, It's just so wild 989 01:14:42.640 --> 01:14:48.640 that it's that there's not any time in between any of the stuff that comes 990 01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:54.479 out within the community, Like there's no like looking into it anymore, there's 991 01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:58.800 no critical thinking behind it anymore. It's just like, how soon and how 992 01:14:58.920 --> 01:15:03.760 fast can we push out this content after something happens, And inevitably all those 993 01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:08.840 people that push out that content as soon as it happens are all wrong. 994 01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:13.880 They're all wrong every single time because they don't have all the information. All 995 01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:16.239 the information has not come out about it. If they would awaited a week 996 01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:19.840 or maybe even a couple of days, they would realize that it was nothing 997 01:15:19.960 --> 01:15:23.960 like that. But that's not the goal. That's not the point. It 998 01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:28.680 goes back to the confusion aspect of this whole thing, and you flood the 999 01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:32.359 Internet in the population with as much nonsense and garbage as possible, all out 1000 01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:36.600 at once, so it just confuses everybody on what to believe. The mean, 1001 01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:42.319 the alternative community is the main extreme community for the people that don't believe 1002 01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:46.800 in mainstream news and mainstream community. That's what it is due. And I 1003 01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:49.479 remember the whole the whole mall alien. You know, we had a lot 1004 01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:54.800 of different aliens last year. We had cake aliens, we had we had 1005 01:15:54.880 --> 01:16:00.520 mollyds, we had Vegas aliens. You don't remember the Vegas aliens. No, 1006 01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:02.159 I didn't even see. I know we had a plastic jug alien. 1007 01:16:02.279 --> 01:16:06.920 Somebody thought of bleach bo bottle. Wasn't it that the duff was an alien 1008 01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:10.920 skullar or nothing like that? But uh, it could have been a joke. 1009 01:16:10.960 --> 01:16:13.439 But no, I did not hear about these Vegas aliens. Enlighten me. 1010 01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:15.920 This is one I missed. Uh you didn't hear about the Vegas aliens, 1011 01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:19.199 dude, I don't think so. Man, Well, there's footage of 1012 01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:21.079 it. You might be able to look it up. I don't know. 1013 01:16:21.239 --> 01:16:26.159 Uh, you just type in Vegas. Let me see. Yeah, yeah, 1014 01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:29.479 yeah, yeah, it's got it's got awful footage. It looks like 1015 01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:32.199 it was filmed off of a two thousand and one freaking flip phone razor. 1016 01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:40.239 I could have filmed them. Wait a minute, let me let me see 1017 01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:43.000 it. So it was like, was it like two months ago? No, 1018 01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:45.920 it was. I think that it was in It was last year, 1019 01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:50.479 all right. So it says it says the cops investigate alleged UFO crash and 1020 01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:56.039 green colored aliens sighting in Las Vegas. I don't know if that's the one 1021 01:16:56.119 --> 01:17:00.399 or not, but I'll definitely have to look it up. Man. But 1022 01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:03.159 no, that's you know, I'm surprised that's slid by me. I don't 1023 01:17:03.159 --> 01:17:06.880 know. Anyway, there was this aliens that apparently showed up in this family's 1024 01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:11.640 backyard in Vegas, and the whole family was there and they all looked on 1025 01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:15.560 like one person, the only one person that was videoing anything, was in 1026 01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:18.800 the very back of the group. There was a fence in between them and 1027 01:17:19.079 --> 01:17:25.520 this entity or whatever, and all you see is like what kind of looks 1028 01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:30.760 like a outline of a man, and like that's it. But the footage 1029 01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:35.600 is so freaking blurry and so distorted that it's hard to make out anything. 1030 01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:40.479 Which is That's another thing that I've mentioned the machine several times and a lot 1031 01:17:40.520 --> 01:17:43.680 of times on my show, is like, why is all of the footage 1032 01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:47.880 of anything weird or anything strange or freaking big foot? Why is it all 1033 01:17:48.079 --> 01:17:55.720 shitty footage? It is? It is like it's like it literally it's like 1034 01:17:55.760 --> 01:17:59.119 the guy, the guy can't hold the camera straight for the life of him. 1035 01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:03.199 You know, later I felt the aliots, They're right here on the 1036 01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:10.960 screen in my room, a really clear view of them. I'm telling you, 1037 01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:15.960 it's it's every You want to know what the only the only clear clear 1038 01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:19.720 video I ever saw of something man I was actually I was watching with with 1039 01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:25.600 my lady the other day that we've been watching the paranormal caught on camera just 1040 01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:28.840 to kill time when we're hanging out in the evenings, and somebody actually got 1041 01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:33.359 a bigfoot video that was not like they actually had like a clear I mean, 1042 01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:35.479 it could have been it could have been a lot of different things. 1043 01:18:35.479 --> 01:18:38.920 But but but but still, I'm with you, guys. Were you talking 1044 01:18:38.920 --> 01:18:43.000 about the one in Colorado? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was that 1045 01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:45.199 was the one that they were showcasing. That one was really interesting me and 1046 01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:48.560 show didn't mean Sheane did a whole show on it. That one was interesting 1047 01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:53.840 because I mean, it could have been somebody in just the weird like honeying 1048 01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:57.880 gear whatever. But the thing that I found interesting that I brought up in 1049 01:18:57.720 --> 01:19:01.319 the video was that the creature or the entity or the person or whatever, 1050 01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:05.680 he sat down like he was trying to blend in with the shrubbery, which 1051 01:19:05.680 --> 01:19:09.319 I thought was really interesting. That's what you would probably do. That's what 1052 01:19:09.399 --> 01:19:14.079 animals do, is they try and blend in with nature, and like whenever 1053 01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:20.119 they're stalking a stocking something, they will try and blend in with the surroundings, 1054 01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:25.520 the surrounding areas. So I thought that was gave a little bit more 1055 01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:32.319 legitimacy to it. But those people are actually from Wyoming and their story seems 1056 01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:36.319 to be legit. I don't know who knows. Man. You know. 1057 01:19:36.359 --> 01:19:39.880 That's the one thing too, is it's like I think, I think, 1058 01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:42.920 you know, because we're gonna start winding down the best thing that I can 1059 01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:45.800 lead off with this man after this whole conversation tonight. You know, I 1060 01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:49.880 got two very smart individuals sitting here who have done their research. They have 1061 01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:53.640 looked at the things they have put in the work. Like I said, 1062 01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:59.680 Writer, Writer has a documentary called JFKX on Amazon right now. Shane is 1063 01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:04.520 a whistle blower and he actually, you have classes to teach people magic and 1064 01:20:04.600 --> 01:20:08.960 other things correct as well, right I do? Yeah? And what I 1065 01:20:09.039 --> 01:20:13.720 define magic, that's your relationship with yourself, your environment, and other people. 1066 01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:18.399 It's not throwing fireballs exactly as actually you know. To tie it into 1067 01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:23.880 the Secret Space Program, I put an and I'm doing introduction calls for free 1068 01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:27.239 for the rest of the summer if anyone's interested, because usually it's sixty dollars 1069 01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:30.800 for that introduction call. Because of Secret Space Program. People wanting to learn 1070 01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:35.960 how to throw fireballs but it is I feel I feel you, guys. 1071 01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:41.560 I got a question for you really quickly. Shane Ryan Burns was on my 1072 01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:44.840 show the other day and he was talking about this thing that's called the Red 1073 01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:49.600 Right, and he said that it kind of came out of Michael Achino and 1074 01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:56.119 which Michael Achino started the Temple of Set And apparently Michael Achino was involved in 1075 01:20:56.159 --> 01:21:04.600 this like ritual where he would essentially imbue his essence onto a pregnant lady that 1076 01:21:05.039 --> 01:21:10.399 had the child has not been born yet, and he would do some kind 1077 01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:15.760 of magic to like put his consciousness inside of the unborn baby. And then 1078 01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:20.560 at some point I would be guessing pretty close to the pregnancy, he then 1079 01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:27.920 kills himself and then commits suicide, but his consciousness is now inside of that 1080 01:21:28.680 --> 01:21:30.319 unborn child. Have you ever heard of anything like that? I think there's 1081 01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:36.960 a show that's very similar called Intruders. But yeah, there's a you know, 1082 01:21:38.760 --> 01:21:41.640 not to say that it worked, but there's definitely a few Culls out 1083 01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:45.560 there who believe they can do stuff like that, and it's up for debate 1084 01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:48.039 whether or not it works, and it definitely doesn't work one hundred percent of 1085 01:21:48.079 --> 01:21:54.319 the time. But yeah, it's a type of forced incarnation. It's possible, 1086 01:21:54.520 --> 01:21:57.920 and it exists. Whether or not that gentleman actually was involved in it 1087 01:21:57.960 --> 01:22:01.720 or had just heard about it or saw true is up for a bit as 1088 01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:06.039 well. But yeah, there's a lot of weird ship. All right, 1089 01:22:06.039 --> 01:22:09.680 I'm not gonna deny that's sorry for my language and your show. But there's 1090 01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:13.279 a lot of weird stuff. There's truth in almost all of it, and 1091 01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:19.399 but all that noise is what's drowning out the truth of it and the truth 1092 01:22:19.399 --> 01:22:24.560 of it on both sides, whether it's our enemy or the powerful ones. 1093 01:22:25.239 --> 01:22:29.560 The answer is human and that's why people don't like the answer. I can't 1094 01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:32.479 understand that one hundred percent. And I like the way that you phrased that, 1095 01:22:32.720 --> 01:22:38.159 because there is truth in this. It's not we're not It's not that 1096 01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:42.279 you guys are coming up here and being like you know all of it. 1097 01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:46.960 It's not true now that there's definitely very strange things that are that are happening. 1098 01:22:47.479 --> 01:22:50.479 And and like I said, Shane, you put it really well that 1099 01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:56.760 there's this noise that's this this background noise or this background mental noise or whatever 1100 01:22:56.800 --> 01:23:00.640 we really want to call it. That's clouding out the discernment to look for 1101 01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:05.000 that actual truth as opposed to just believing what's handed to us, you know, 1102 01:23:05.039 --> 01:23:10.920 and TikTok videos and what's on you know, the x feed or things 1103 01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:13.239 like that. So well, guys, let me tell you this, it 1104 01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:15.680 was a real pleasure having you two on. It was great to have you 1105 01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:17.760 both here at the same time. So I do have writer, I have 1106 01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:24.239 your YouTube link and your Apple Podcasts link in the description. Shane, I 1107 01:23:24.279 --> 01:23:29.359 have your YouTube link. But if you two want to announce where they can 1108 01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:32.119 find you guys outside of that before we close out tonight, and so everybody 1109 01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:36.279 can go and check out your stuff. You can find me on YouTube had 1110 01:23:36.359 --> 01:23:43.159 Raised by Giants and you allodcast platforms at Rais by Giants, And check out 1111 01:23:43.159 --> 01:23:46.960 my documentary jfk X on Amazon Prime if you're inside of the United States. 1112 01:23:47.319 --> 01:23:51.600 If you're outside of the United States, check it out on Vimeo's up on 1113 01:23:51.720 --> 01:23:56.319 Vimeo as well and on t B so you can watch it on two B. 1114 01:23:56.399 --> 01:24:00.600 I think twob goes to a different a couple of different on trees and 1115 01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:04.760 I am currently working on documentary number two, which is going to be amazing 1116 01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:09.920 and blow everything out of the water, so really looking forward to that. 1117 01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:14.039 Thanks for having me on, Steven, and thanks for being on here, 1118 01:24:14.079 --> 01:24:17.560 Shane. Once in a lifetime podcast that we just did my friend and I 1119 01:24:17.960 --> 01:24:21.199 very much enjoyed it. Been wanting to do one like this for a while 1120 01:24:21.239 --> 01:24:25.239 and then she and I mean Stephen hit me up and was like, yeah, 1121 01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:28.000 to do this bad boy, so very much enjoyed it. Thank you. 1122 01:24:28.479 --> 01:24:30.199 Oh yeah man? How yeah? And Shane, where can everybody else 1123 01:24:30.479 --> 01:24:33.359 find you? Aside from your YouTube channel? I know you're on all social 1124 01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:40.119 media as well. If you do the link linked tree u r L after 1125 01:24:40.159 --> 01:24:43.640 the slash Shane underscorees a door like it's written on the screen there. If 1126 01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:47.399 they see that, but with an underscore between changes the store, you'll find 1127 01:24:47.439 --> 01:24:51.000 out my links there. I don't really post to public YouTube anymore because of 1128 01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:58.279 the community, and I know I have a paywall that's there more like a 1129 01:24:58.319 --> 01:25:02.199 gatekeeper than a money making thing, because yeah, I don't really make a 1130 01:25:02.279 --> 01:25:05.079 don of money off of it. I just don't want to have to answer 1131 01:25:05.199 --> 01:25:12.800 everybody's absurd questions. I like to questions. I totally understand, man, 1132 01:25:12.840 --> 01:25:15.239 I totally understand if you two want to stick around for just a second, 1133 01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:19.800 guys, I want to thank you all for joining me for another bg Cast 1134 01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:25.880 Wednesday live podcast. I think this was a very insightful conversation with writer Lee 1135 01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:30.439 and Shane here. I think, really what this really says to us is 1136 01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:32.800 we need to use discernment. I mean, this is something I hit home 1137 01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:39.039 so much. Is discernment at all time high right now. Discernment is key 1138 01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:44.800 and do not let the noise cloud out what is truly there for you to 1139 01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:47.439 see. And that is really the best thing that I can leave you all 1140 01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:50.760 with. Guys. I'll be back next week with Rafael. He's going to 1141 01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:57.720 be coming on to discuss kind of a similar topic, some of the misinformation 1142 01:25:57.880 --> 01:26:00.439 in the conspiracy community at this time, as well as some other occult stuff 1143 01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:02.479 we're going to get into. And other than that, you guys, have 1144 01:26:02.520 --> 01:26:05.520 yourself a wonderful night, Take care everybody, and thanks for joining us.