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It's time for Coffee and Company,
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Holy crap, I don't know who
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off our show, idiot. The
kids are crying or turning off, crying.

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The countries are screwing it up.
Gold Play inter murals, Brother,

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gold Play intermurals. They're supposed to
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not. Who's the kid here?
Who's the kid here? Are you kidding

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me? Now? Here's Nick coffee. When there's a little bit of a

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delay, not for the show to
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his job. He got the party
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I assume is it a button?
It is a bum. He hits the

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button and we're off enrolling. But
when it takes me a little longer to,

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you know, turn on my microph
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I've got to I've got to get
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people like, hey, in case
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here. It's Coffee and Company from
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field by Thornton's with myself, Nick
Coffee, and the company man John

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Alden. I mean, there's no
way they'd forget, right, No,

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not at all with the mainstay.
Now, it's true. I mean it's

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we're a staple here. We're a
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I'm sure you listen every second of
this program from three to six, and

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we appreciate you for that because I
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few minutes, because then you'd feel
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you didn't get the full fix.
That is the experience of this show.

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Do you think people forgot about the
worry of yesterday storms? I mean it

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was definitely underwhelming, at least in
our area. Yeah, and again it's

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good because like it sounds like there
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I'm not really sure of any severe
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around here, maybe south of US
maybe Tennessee got it pretty hard. But

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I actually feel like Wednesday, I'm
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Wednesday, but I feel like the
build up, right, the buzz about

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some severe, very dangerous weather,
and look, as we discussed yesterday,

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I mean they had us on alert
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if in case things got crazy,
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When I left here, I drove
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and it was raining really hard,
and once I got into dinner to

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the restaurant, it thundered really loud
ones. But then after that it was

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kind of, you know, pretty
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we want, right we don't want
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I'll say about it and we'll move
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be some level of like a barometer
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going to really ramp it up and
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know what I'm saying, Like because
yesterday again I'm not a meteorologist, what

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the hell do I know? But
it didn't really feel like it was anything

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crazy at all. But the one
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when we heard thund I know from
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you know, it was loud,
but sounds like things were you know,

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not dangerous, which again is good. All right, Let me remind

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Thursday afternoon here in Louisville, you
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listener hit me up earlier this week
that told me that they finally got got

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Their employer is now restricting streaming access
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which I'm not sure if it's because
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I can't imagine that's the case,
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be that heavy on your connection.
Video different story, but it's probably because

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they want you to be productive.
But I think all employers should understand that

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the best way for your employees to
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are working hard while consuming the show. Just my thoughts, probably biased,

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but uh, you know I I
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Oh yeah, send them a little
send them a little work around to

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where they can bypass the uh,
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somebody's got on their on their on
their access. Now they should know and

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I probably should have told them this, like, hey, you know,

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like you could eventually get caught again, but this should this should bypass whatever

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you're sending me. Very concerned listener
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what it was showing at work,
and I'm like, oh, I've seen

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that before. Not that I'm you
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used to work the Cube life.
I used to have to uh, you

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know, I used to have to
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my eyes out for some of the
latest hacks to get to work around things.

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Because obviously they don't want you.
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other than working whenever you're at,
whenever you're at your desk. I guess

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if you are at, if you're
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ability to do that, right,
I wouldn't think. So I let's say,

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just have direct access to your computer. Yeah, if you have,

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if you have a laptop that they
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they you could still have like some
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your own internet, would that would
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It's a good question anyways. So
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into the typical stuff that we get
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of feel like the last two weeks
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going to be three weeks total around
the city of Louisville has been great and

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something I don't really remember ever happening
before. We had the Kentucky Derby last

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week. Obviously, Derby one fifty
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And as we discussed on Monday,
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better for those that put it on
right. Obviously, if you bet money

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on the ponies and they didn't come
through for you, then I'm sure you

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didn't have a great experience. But
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think for the most part with weather, attendance was was strong, and you

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know, the race itself couldn't have
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PGA event that's coming up next week
and this week they're already doing a lot

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of preparations for it. Tiger Woods
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you saw that John there's pictures of
him on the course yesterday at Valhalla,

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and Tiger Woods is one of those
celebrities that I feel like for the rest

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of his life and probably after he's
dead and gone, Like he's that famous

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to where I don't care who you
are. You know who he is.

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He's a larger than life fishing Yeah
sure, And when you know he's in

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your city like it, you know, it kind of feels cool. Like

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it hasn't impacted me in any way. I'm not like riding around looking for

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him like paparazzi, but you know, he's like a mega super famous person

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and I don't really have any strong
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a golf guy. I think that's
been pretty clear over the years. It's

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the one sport that I kind of
feel like I should, Like it would

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benefit me with you know, this
show probably, and it would benefit me

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professionally to be able to go out
and hit the golf course tap business,

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right, Like I can't tell you
how many times we've had a client that,

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you know, hey, when we
go play around a golf and I've

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had to tell him like, I
mean, we can, but like I

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would, I would just embarrass you. I embarrass myself, and you'd be

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embarrassed to be seen with me playing
around of golf. Now, since then,

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I've gotten a little bit. I
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it's not good, Like I still
will occasionally take a swing with the

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driver and miss the ball, you
know. So you know, if I

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was gonna get into it, I
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I've been telling myself that for years. Although I do play a couple

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times a year and it's always a
lot of fun, but usually the fun

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for me is just pounding bush lights
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Like that's kind of that's kind of
why I do it. That's that's the

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injury, that's that's that's what gets
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we're gonna go play around the golf
and I can't drink beer and you know,

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hang with the fellas. Then like, yeah, I'm out, you're

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the party guy. Yeah, Because
I'm really competitive with myself and if I

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suck at something, I'm not gonna
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and not enjoy myself. That's why
growing up, I played one sport.

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That's the only sport I played,
and I got made fun of in school

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whenever we had to like have pe
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one of them was weightlifting. I
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like, you know, high school
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and obviously you play a lot of
different sports like you know, will football,

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flag, football, archery, We
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was the worst at every sport other
than basketball. Not even kidding you,

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Like people were people were like,
like, have you seen him throw baseball?

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Got he look it was like a
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mean it was. It was embarrassing. So you know, when I was

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five years old, I played t
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ball, never came back and started
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So that's one of the reasons why
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just having fun, because like I'm
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which I do, it just it's
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golf is such a time consuming sport
for your entire day, you nailed it.

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I had always heard that, but
as someone who doesn't play often and

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previously have never played, I'd never
really thought about that. But yeah,

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it'll if you play eighteen, you're
with a crew. You know, let's

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just say you have three or four
of your buddies. I mean, that's

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gonna take you a long time.
And I'm and I'm the guy that'll make

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it take even longer because I'm just
like, no, I'm gonna pick up

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the ball and move on. I'm
not gonna let you guys sit here,

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and just you know, I'd be
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than it needed to be because I'm
I'm terrible at it. So uh,

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Anyways, Tiger is I mean,
he's Tiger freaking Woods and it got me

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thinking, like where does he rank
as far as the most famous people in

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the world? And fame is different
for all different types of people, right,

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Like I know that Kylie Jenner insanely
famous. I don't know why.

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I don't mean, I'm not trying
to be that guy like, you know,

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bagging on people who are famous on
social media, but I genuinely don't

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know what why, Like what's her
what's her craft? Right? What does

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she do? I mean, she's
famous, she's you know, you know,

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believed to be super attractive. I'm
not saying she's unattractive, honestly,

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you know, I feel like I
could pick her out of a lineup.

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But like when you ask me,
hey, who are the most famous people

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in the world, I wouldn't think
of her, But if you said her,

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I would like, oh, yeah, clearly she's like she's super famous.

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I feel like it stems from whenever
they had the show Keeping Up with

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the Kardashians, right, I mean
that's probably what and just being a part

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of that entire crew that again famous
from a reality show, but their fame

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like on the internet, on websites
and you know, TMZ stuff like that's

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taking it to a different level.
So when I think famous, I think

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of someone that everybody regardless of what
their interests are, if you're a big

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sports person or if you're not a
big sports person, if you're big into

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music, if you're a kid,
like, do you know who that is?

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Do you recognize that person? You
don't have to know their bio,

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you don't have to know everything about
them. You may not even know what

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they do, but you know who
they are because they're that freaking famous.

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And I've got a list here,
John. Okay, this always surprises me,

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but it shouldn't because this has been
I mean, this guy has been

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listed as one of In fact,
I think it's been the most famous person

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not only in sports but in the
world for a long long time, and

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it always surprises me. But it
shouldn't because it's been this way for a

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long time. Christiano Ronaldo, so
he's he's listed here as the most famous

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person in the world, not famous
sports person, just the most famous person

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in the world. And I think
why that surprises me each time is because

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soccer is growing in America and it's
popular to certain crowds, right, Like

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we're not people who just you know, like it's not as if we're learning

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what the sport is here in America, but it's so different across the world.

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It's it's their culture, right and
it's not really ours. I mean

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again, not not to say that
like people don't like it and care about

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it, but like here we do
American football, we do NFL, Like

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that's that's the dominant sport here.
And there's others too that you know,

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obviously get a lot of tension and
bring in millions of viewers, but you

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know, American football, NFL,
that's that's what's king here. So rinaldo

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and then another soccer start, you
know it, ISS's who I would have

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assum would have been number one if
you were picking between I don't even know

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the difference between the two, Like, I mean, I mean serious,

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Like I don't like I'm either between
either of the two. Do you know

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which country they're from? No,
Okay, Messi's from argentinaka, Ronaldo's from

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Portugal. Okay, I think I
you know I would I would not have

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guessed Argentina for Messi, but Portugal
I remember Ronaldo being from there. But

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again, if it's like a multiple
choice question, I probably would have got

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it. But number three is Kylie
Jenner, and again she's you know,

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she's got I mean, I think
her fame is mostly because of again like

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at one point she had the most
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Instagram. But she's twenty six years
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American TV personality, model and business
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with the Kardashians is what she's I
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John John's playing coy here, like
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everything. So Selena Gomez, I
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you know, she's a musician,
right like I mean that's a nod.

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even more so than like a Taylor
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surprised. So this this list,
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here, maybe you hey, you
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the world. I want to see
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surprised me is in fact Taylor Swift. But number four Selena Gomez, as

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The rock Wayne Johnson, like he's
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and I think he's been in enough
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maybe he still is. He was
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you can be like me in your
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younger, and you remember, do
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he was doing the rock Bottom on
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to The Rock, and then of
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that's a good question that again we'll
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The Rock bigger in Hollywood mainstream media
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but like Hulk was still mainly for
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appearance in like terrible movies like Muscles
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hul Cogan which randomly had me Accunis
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you watch it every year. I've
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to see it. No, I
remember like finding old Like, you know,

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there was a there was an article
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show a few years ago about like
the worst Christmas movies ever, and there

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were many that I've never even heard
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one. Muscles with Santa Ariana Grande's
number six, Kim Kardashian number seven,

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Beyonce number eight, Chloe Kardashian number
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like I'd believe all that, but
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I have never once ever went out
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found myself seeking to find. Hey, I wonder what Chloe Kardashian's posting today

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on Instagram. I really would love
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Oh Justin Bieber, Yeah, I
would love to really let me, let

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me see what he's got going on? Is TikTok man? I just need

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my Bieber fix. I'm a Biber
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I'm not knocking people who are fan, but it's just not my lane.

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again, all these people I can't
really like, I can't tell you if

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Justin Bieber is making movies or music
right now, genuinely mean that. I

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still don't know what the Kardashians do. I know, Beyonce's Beyonce, but

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like I don't, I don't,
you know, I still know that they

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are Like if oh my god,
that's that's that's car, that's Justin Bieber

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so number eleven, Elon Musk,
I get it. Because you know he's

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Elon Musk, But I feel like
there are people that would see him and

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not know who he is. But
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it checks out. I think Elon
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five years, has been a big
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Younger people wouldn't recognize him, but
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I'm sure Robert Downey Junior, number
thirteen didn't see that coming. Yeah,

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that's a little bit of a surprise. I know, the Marvel movies and

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Iron Man and all that stuff were
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this is from legit dot com or it's

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like a legit it's under one of
these new sites umbrellas. But like the

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platform here is called legit, which
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that they're basing it off of longevity.

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for maybe Robert Downey Junior. It

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would certainly make sense for number fourteen. Will Smith. I mean, he's

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been relevant in the acting in realm
for decades now. When's the last time

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he did a movie though, he
king Richard that was what he got,

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what he won the oscar for and
then slash that rock in the okay face

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or whatever got it. So I
just didn't know if he'd been But he's

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one of those guys that he could
not do movies for a few years,

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and he's not going to fall off
and people be like, damn, what

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happened to the Rock? I forgot
he exist? Or what happened to Will

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Smith? I forgot he existed.
Jeff Bezos Number fifteen, no surprise there.

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Number sixteen's Tiger Woods. And that's
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pretty sure Tiger Woods is more famous
than anybody that came to Derby last week.

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I mean, maybe there's a super
celebrity that showed up and we didn't

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know about it, but that's not
how it works. If you show up

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at Derby and you're super famous,
that's kind of why you're there, because

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you're super famous. I would imagine
many many of these super celebrities that go

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to the Derby do not know or
care about horse racing, but it's like

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that kind of an event that brings
out the stars. For seventeen, Mark

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Zuckerberg Rihanna eighteen, Taylor Swift nineteen. I you know, I'm not like

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a fan of Taylor Swift by any
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she was like number two. Oh
and yeah, I totally agree. Did

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you find a different list? Now? I found something that wasn't like it

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was more of like the one hundred
most influential people, which is kind of

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a different thing, a little different. But yeah, so right now,

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one of the most famous people on
the planet is in Louisville, and that's

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pretty cool. And that's Tiger Woods. And again, I feel like a

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phony saying this because I'm about to
give you a golf take and I don't

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know anything about golf, but I
feel like this is not like me talking

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into my rear end. I think
it maybe it actually might be something that

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a lot of people just tend to
agree with, Like, yeah, no

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brainer, Nick, that's not a
hot take. That's a very known thing.

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There's nobody that did for their sport
or does for their sport even to

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this day, like Tiger Woods does
for golf. There's no there's don't.

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I don't and it's a different sport
because right like it's it's an individual thing

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right, It's it's not like a
team, but he will always be the

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most followed, most covered, most
talked about golfer in any event that he's

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in, until, of course,
you know, he fails to qualify or

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something like that, But even after
that, it'll still be one of the

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most talked about things. When you're
recapping on a write up or a news

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story about set event, what happened
with Tiger's always going to be brought up,

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and it's most likely going to lead
and if he wants to keep playing

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until he's eighty, this will still
this will still be the case. So

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yeah, I yeah, I'd be
a liar to act like, oh man,

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I can't wait for the PGA event
next week. But I'm happy that

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we have these events like this in
Louisville because hey, it's good for the

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city, and you know, I'm
a Louisville man. Am I not?

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I'm car I mean, I'm Cardboy. You are card Boy. All right,

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let's get to our first break here. What I want to get to

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coming up here on the other side, we'll talk a little uh well,

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I don't want to act like,
hey, everybody's stick around. We're going

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to talk NBA playoffs, because yeah, I know a lot of you don't

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really care about that. But I
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Nick watching the Pacers get beat and
it was painful because I love the Pacers,

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but it also, you know,
made me sad. But I felt

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alive, like I felt like you
know, I was into it. I

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was yelling about the refs, dropped
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my kids, like a like a
loser. Wife's still giving me crap about

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it. But also once again,
as always, we'll talk some portal stuff

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and some nil numbers, right because
I've been saying for a long time there's

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no way these guys are getting the
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believed to be. And there is
an athletic article that I guess gives us

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a peek behind the curtain that tells
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paid nil guy in the portal what
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it's not anything close to what people
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loaded the rest of the way.
Stick with us, no guest, which

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On a Sports Talk seven ninety about
a little John Daly on a Thursday.

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I've heard this song before. I
don't remember it sounding this good.

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It is good. It's not bad. John Daily my favorite golfer, and

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it's because he's actually one of my
favorite athletes. And I mean that sincerely,

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because he is so genuinely one of
a kind, and like, I

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think a lot and maybe this is
me being cynical, but I think a

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lot of like a lot of people
like Art wouldn't be the exact same person

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if you met him in a you
know, when nobody was around. Is

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what you see like on TV and
stuff and interviews. I feel like John

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Daily is the exact same human being
every second of his life. And he

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had a lot of I mean,
I don't know if i'd call him flaws,

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but my man liked to party and
crush beers, and you know,

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sometimes they got in the way of
work. That's a pretty relatable thing I

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would imagine for a lot of people
and his you know, his situation played

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out in front of all of us, and you know he was just so

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genuinely him and he's still uh,
he's still killing it being him. I

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mean he's just he's doing appearances.
He still plays I think on like the

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Senior Tour or something like that.
But love John Daly. The ESPN thirty

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for thirty on him was so well
done. One of my favorites. And

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they did a lot of really good
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one. All right. It's Coffee
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Talk seven ninety n at coffee.
That is me, the company man,

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John Alden writing Shotgun. This afternoon
and last night I watched the Pacers Knicks

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game, and the nostalgia was unbelievable
for me. I mean, I mean

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it was I'm gonna sound like a
psychopath here, but like it was.

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It was amazing, Like it was
like an out of body experience because you

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know, I grew up watching Reggie
Miller own the New York Knicks and and

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brag about it and put it,
you know, and mocks Spike Lee court

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side like we always were. Not
always, but a lot of times you

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know, especially when I was really
into the Indiana Pacers as a kid.

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We'd get by the Knicks and they'd
be you know, arrogant going in.

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You know, there's such a fraud
franchise. They think that like the NBA

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needs them because they're in a big
market, like they've They've done nothing in

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my lifetime that you know, I
feel like has ever mattered. And yes,

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I'm biased because you know, they're
kind of a rival, I guess,

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but we would always own the Knicks
more often than not. Now they

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got us a couple of times,
but we would win against the next but

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then we run into guests who you
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that never worked out in our favor, and it, you know, it

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made me sad. So last night, it's it's the Knicks, and it's

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it's the Pacers. Pacers. You
know, a lot of leads slip away

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and completely you know, choked it
be honest with you. But Reggie's on

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the call, and Reggie was talking
smack before the game, and it just

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it took me back to nineteen ninety
I mean in ninety seven, ninety eight,

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ninety nine, I mean that was
when I was obsessed with Reggie Miller,

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which was kind of weird for me
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obviously, how can you be a
kid in the nineties and not idolize Michael

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Jordan. I love Jordan Jordan,
Michael freaking Jordan, but I also love

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Reggie Miller, and I love Reggie
Moore actually, and I knew he wasn't

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Jordan even as a kid, but
you know, I mean, I had

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my heart broken by Jordan many times. And that's why it almost brought me

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to tears watching the Last Dance docuseriies
when Jordan talked about the battles he had

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with the Pacers and Reggie, and
I'm getting chills thinking about it. Now.

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Don't laugh at me, because you
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out of Reggie Miller as a competitor. Reggie did not kiss his ass and

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a lot of guys did in the
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Michael Jordan, and I think Jordan
respected that, and they had some really

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good battles, and Reggie's my idol. And you know, after the emotion

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kind of wore off a little bit, you know, because I was so

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mad that they lost, and I
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game was essentially over. Free throws
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something like that. Reggie's doing the
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garden and he Josh Hart walks over
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him. So Reggie takes his headset
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hey, man, I think they're
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but he said the actual word on
TV, and like people are gassing

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00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.000
that up, like, oh man, Josh Harden is so cool and I'm

406
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:45.599
like, no, he's a clown. And what I had to wait what

407
00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:48.440
made me calm down a little bit, as I had to remind myself Reggie

408
00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:52.480
Miller is a villain and I idolized
a villain. I love him. I

409
00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:55.559
don't see him the way other people
do, but he loves he loves being

410
00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:57.599
a villain and he's great at it. So like that's just gonna always happen,

411
00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:00.359
you know. If Reggie's talking rectly
before the game like he was,

412
00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:06.519
and the Knicks end up, you
know, beating his Pacers, which by

413
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:08.720
the way, still his franchise in
my opinion, then they're gonna come back

414
00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:11.599
at him, right like when you
when you when you play like Reggie Miller

415
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:15.319
and you don't come through, it's
gonna come back at you in a major

416
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:19.039
way. So but I'm just sensitive
to it. And when the Knicks were

417
00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:22.880
pulling away with some nonsense calls,
I mean, I don't know if I'm

418
00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:27.400
a big fan of Rick Carlisle being
such a baby about the officiating, but

419
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:30.279
there were some crazy calls in that
game that were just, you know,

420
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:37.599
insane. And you know, Jalen
Brunson's out here just being unstoppable, which

421
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.400
I gotta tip my cap to him. He's amazing. But tomorrow is Game

422
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.960
three in Indie and I'm I'm trying
to go. I'm not kidding you,

423
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:51.359
I'm trying to go to My buddies
are going. They're all they're Pacers fanatics.

424
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:53.880
We need you need to introduce me
to him because I don't have any

425
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:57.440
Pacers fans friends. Actually I do. You know one of my buddies,

426
00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.240
Andrew Linz, he used to work
here for Chris is the director of ops.

427
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.119
He's now coaching at Butler. He's
a big Pacers fan, so he

428
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:06.440
and I, you know, we
talked Pacers. But you know he lives

429
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:10.359
he lives there. But this was
Reggie before the game. And again,

430
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:15.440
like people couldn't stand him. He
was a very unlikable guy girl when I

431
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.559
was a kid, but I loved
him. So I'm in you know,

432
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:21.079
I'm in the minority here. So
like I see this and I'm like,

433
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:25.240
hell yeah, Reggie. But it
probably everybody watching this on TV last night

434
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:27.440
before the game, especially Knicks fans, are probably watching this thinking to themselves,

435
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:32.400
the hell with this guy? I
forgot how much I hated him.

436
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.640
I know people are like, aren't
you worried about going back to New York

437
00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:40.559
City and calling the game? No, I've owned this city, I've owned

438
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:45.559
this building, so why would I
be worried about walking on out there.

439
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.640
It's true though, it's facts.
I love that that on my face,

440
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:53.559
that quote. I mean, I
you know, when I was in I

441
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:56.240
don't know what great it was.
I feel like it was towards the end

442
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:59.880
of elementary school. Maybe you know
I grew up in Bullet County. He'pe

443
00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:03.839
you know that there weren't many Louisville
fans, right, I mean, John,

444
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:08.119
you you know, probably more when
you were growing It was probably it

445
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:11.119
had grown by the time you were
growing up. But then you know,

446
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:12.319
at that time, you know,
you got to keep in mind it was

447
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:15.640
the later days of Denny in the
nineties. Things had kind of worn off

448
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:21.240
a little bit. Football didn't really
have any any notoriety, so it was

449
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:23.839
rare a kid, and you know, Bullet County being a louisvill fan,

450
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:30.960
So everybody idolized the bulls in Kentucky
that I was in school with my classmates,

451
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:33.400
and I loved Reggie Miller and Louisville. So like I was, you

452
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:38.480
know, I was, you were
going to get absolutely absolutely all right,

453
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:42.759
So let's talk to an Il,
shall we, because I find I think

454
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:48.440
actually nil is is a big talking
point for a variety of reasons. Sometimes

455
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.559
it's just it's you know, sometimes
people are just complaining about guys getting paid.

456
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:56.839
Sometimes it's about you know, the
amount of money that's out there and

457
00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.039
it or it's about, hey,
our school's got a great, great collective,

458
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.279
we're doing good. Or hey,
I'm worried like it's going to can

459
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:07.079
you continue to be talked about because
even whenever they do become employees by the

460
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:08.119
school and the school is paying them, they're still going to be able to

461
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.119
make money through nil. And you're
going to have to do that if you

462
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.680
want to get really good players.
But I've always said, and I know

463
00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:17.440
I'm going to sound like a broken
record because I say this probably at least

464
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:19.599
once every other day when it comes
to nil. But now we actually have

465
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.400
you know, maybe not proof,
but some information as far as what is

466
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:30.319
actually being spent to bring in a
transfer on the market. Now football,

467
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.319
this is this is strictly basketball,
but I still think the same thing in

468
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:38.119
football, Like I don't know if
if these football players are getting the two

469
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:45.440
million dollars that they're believed to be
you know worth. And I've said it

470
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:49.319
many times. I think that the
reason you don't hear anybody dispute it is

471
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:56.359
because it's a mutually beneficial arrangement.
If the school is believed to have paid

472
00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.759
two million for somebody that looks like
they got money, they've got resources they'll

473
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:03.279
spend, which means you're going to
be more popular among other players. If

474
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:08.839
the player himself is believed to have
gotten two million dollars. I mean that

475
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.480
makes it look like, damn,
he's he's he's worth that by definition,

476
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:18.000
that's his value. So there is
a let me make sure a site where

477
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:21.559
this Yeah, so this is from
the Athletic. This is Brendan Mark,

478
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:23.640
C. J. Moore and Kyle
Tucker who put this piece together. Did

479
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.680
a really good job. And I
don't I don't do this often. If

480
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:32.759
you're ever going to pay for uh, for coverage writing, you know,

481
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:37.519
journalism, the Athletic is phenomenal.
I mean they have really really good work

482
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:40.799
and they have some of the best
writers you'll find. You know, I'm

483
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:42.880
sure they do it in the NFL
and in soccer and NBA, but for

484
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:48.799
for college sports, their coverage for
football and basketball, I think is is

485
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:52.880
is great, uh And you get
you know, obviously, this day and

486
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.599
age, a lot of people consume
their news with a tweet, right or

487
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:59.079
a thread and that's you know,
that's still the case. You know,

488
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:00.000
that's probably gonna be the case for
a long time. But you know,

489
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.559
I know there is still a market
for really good journalism, and the Athletic

490
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.200
does it. So if you are
ever going to pay for you know,

491
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.200
some premium content, I think it
would be worth it to do it,

492
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:15.799
to do it here. But here's
what we have. This is a breakdown

493
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:21.200
here as far as the amount of
money college basketball players are really getting right

494
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:22.720
now on the open market. So
I'm going to read some excerpts here.

495
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:30.599
This is from one insider quote Baylor, Arkansas, and Louisville have helped the

496
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:37.559
market. That is from one insider. Another one says those three plus Indiana,

497
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:42.079
Alabama, and Kentucky are believed to
be the biggest spenders during this free

498
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:48.640
agent season. Says here, a
mix of that plus obscene asking prices,

499
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:55.640
plus a little bit of a liar's
poker have resulted in this new reality.

500
00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:00.480
Every kid has multiple seven hundred and
fifty thousand dollars offers. That's the opening

501
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:05.039
line of every agent. That's one
insider says. So this is where they

502
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:08.240
break down what they you know,
they claim to know, these insiders are

503
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:15.480
the actual going rates for transfers signing
with high major programs right now. So

504
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:19.720
like if you're a high major program
again we're talking we're talking high major programs.

505
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:22.200
That's the programs around here, Louisville, Kentucky, Indiana, In fact,

506
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.119
all of those are in the in
the tier of blue blood if you

507
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:31.400
ask me. But a starter is
going for two hundred to two hundred and

508
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:36.240
fifty thousand dollars if you're a starter
and you came from the portal. Maybe

509
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:40.519
not everybody's getting that, but that's
that's the that's the real amount of money

510
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:45.079
that is that is being spent in
this kind of transaction. If you're an

511
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:49.720
All Conference player three hundred and fifty
thousand, if you're an All American and

512
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:55.240
you are either staying in school at
your previous school or you are transferring to

513
00:32:55.319 --> 00:33:01.440
another school, five hundred thousand dollars
plus. But he said there are This

514
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:07.599
is another source that says here there
are people paying double that across the board.

515
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:13.240
As far as who that is,
you know, I'm not really sure.

516
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.920
Maybe it's maybe it's those schools we
just mentioned again. You know,

517
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:21.359
this mentions all three local schools,
Kentucky, Louisville, Indiana as far as

518
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.119
you know, the big spenders,
which makes sense, right, I mean,

519
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.319
you should have a lot of nil
money to work with because you just

520
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.200
hired new coaches at Louisville and Kentucky
and you know, let's be real,

521
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:36.200
Mark Pope and Pat Kelsey are cheap
compared to what you know. I mean,

522
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.519
Pat Kelsey, I'm stunned he's not
making more money. And I'm sure

523
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:43.759
he will if he if he you
know, succeeds early on. But I

524
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:45.160
think that was the strategy for Louisville. I don't know about Kentucky, but

525
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:49.039
you know a lot of this donor
money that you thought you'd need to go

526
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.759
pay to get Dan Hurley at Yukon
and for Louisville, if you were going

527
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:57.480
to go pay to get Scott Drew
and pay him eight million a year,

528
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.079
if of course you know he would
have taken the job. You say,

529
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:01.359
have a lot of money in that
money. I think it's now going towards

530
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:06.079
Nile resources. So that I mean, it's a win win. Here's another

531
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:08.039
so this is you know, that's
just one insider, two insiders. Here's

532
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:12.840
another one that says starter is two
hundred to three hundred thousand, all conferences,

533
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.159
five hundred thousand to seven hundred fifty
thousand, and the high end.

534
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:21.159
And there's it's this is what it
says here. On one hand, there

535
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:25.599
are there are players in college basketball
that are making eight hundred thousand to two

536
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:31.880
million, and I like I believe
that I do. So there's another little

537
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:35.639
breakdown here that says it depends on
this I'm sorry, little quote here from

538
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:38.800
another source that they that they that
they use for the story. Depends on

539
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:43.119
the position. An All Conference guard
could be looking at four and fifty thousand

540
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:46.800
to six hundred thousand. As they've
gotten more scares. Here it says six

541
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:51.480
hundred to eight hundred thousand could be
the high end of that if there's you

542
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:54.679
know, for an exceptional player for
bigs. What was six hundred thousand plus

543
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:59.880
for an All conference player is now
over a million. So they're giving you

544
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:06.039
different different ranges here a little bit, but overall, you know, two

545
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:12.480
million for great Osa bor like,
that's just not I don't that's not happening,

546
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:15.480
like Louisville is believed. And look, maybe Louisville would pay that,

547
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:17.280
I don't know. And if they
did, hey, that must mean they

548
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:22.639
have the money and they know they
need to get a quality big But you

549
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.440
know, Texas Tech Washington, I
believe even like they're not going to pay

550
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:29.679
that, and I don't you know, if it was me and I had

551
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:30.760
the money, then yeah, I
would say, if okay, we can

552
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:32.280
afford it, and we have it, then you know, why not?

553
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:37.920
Right? Because the coaches, like
when they're talking to folks and I don't

554
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.239
even know how it works specifically,
but like if you've got somebody that's in

555
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:45.280
between that works for the school,
that talks to the coach, and that

556
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:47.480
person also then talks to the collective
and whatnot as far as how it's gonna

557
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:51.840
work, you know, if they
have it, they'll they'll spend it.

558
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.159
And you know, you know,
like leaving ni O money for a season

559
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:58.400
just not used is stupid, to
be honest, because that's literally what the

560
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:00.400
money's for. Now. Figure out
how you're going to split it up among

561
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:06.960
your players. That's a different conversation. But I bet these guys are shopped

562
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.039
for these you know, two million, three million, and then in the

563
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:15.440
end it comes down to where,
Okay, your best offer was probably half

564
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.679
of that or maybe forty percent of
that, and that whoever was willing to

565
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:23.679
pay that, that's where you that's
where you picked. So that that to

566
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:28.039
me, that what I just laid
out there. And again I would recommend

567
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:31.079
going and reading the article because it's
just really informative stuff that to me seems

568
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:34.840
way more realistic than some of the
other things that I've that I've seen,

569
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.320
like Jaden Quaen's I don't believe that
he made two million dollars to go to

570
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:43.320
Arizona State. I don't. I
can't prove that. And if he did,

571
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:47.000
good for him. So the kid
bollow is that his name from Indiana?

572
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:51.079
Yeah, Umaro, you would know
better than I. What was the

573
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:54.519
noise from Indiana fans or just I
guess college basketball folks As far as what

574
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:58.400
he was being, like what he
was going to cause, I don't remember

575
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.639
how much the prediction was, but
I remember after things kind of settled down

576
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:05.639
with him, I was told that
he made around eight hundred thousand dollars.

577
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:12.400
Yeah. So Trilly Donovan, Trillie
Donovan had had during his his I guess

578
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.079
his you know, he only did
only visit one place. I think he

579
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.239
was going to visit place in Indiana. That was it. Yeah, So

580
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:23.039
initially Trilli Donovan was was was sharing
that he believes that like they were asking,

581
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:28.000
I guess his agent one point three
million, but he ended up getting

582
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.079
between seven and eight. Like again, that is one of the best bigs

583
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.920
in the portal. I can totally
like to me, I would I would

584
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:38.199
believe that, but like over a
million. I mean, I just,

585
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:45.000
you know, I'm trying to put
myself in the shoes of people that I

586
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.239
should not try to put myself in
the shoes in because I can't relate.

587
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:52.719
I don't like if I ever had
that level of money. I mean,

588
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:54.239
I love I love U of L. I want to see him do well.

589
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:57.840
I mean, I'm a fan just
like everybody else, you know,

590
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.639
And if I had the if I
had the ability to donate and help with

591
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.639
the collective, like in a major
way, I would. But I feel

592
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.400
like even if I was stupid rich, I ain't paying a million dollars.

593
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:12.800
Everything that's come out and kind of
shown that they're the one who's willing to

594
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.199
do that. As the John Ruis
guy in Miami, Yeah, well I

595
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:20.519
will say this Rick Keever of glob
Brands, sunten City, Planet Fitness,

596
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:24.159
and buff City. So I mean, he was very, very visibly attached

597
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:28.599
with his one million dollar contribution for
the collective. But that wasn't you know,

598
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:30.239
Hey, I'm gonna go pay for
a player. You're right. The

599
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:31.760
guy for Miami, he was like, all right here, here's like contracting

600
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:36.519
out Nigel Packers. He put it
on put he made it public to flex

601
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.760
that he's out here. You know, he's got money he'll pay. So

602
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:44.119
it's always going to matter. Right
again, even whenever they do become employees

603
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:46.320
and things are regulated, I'm sure
there's going to be some stipulations as far

604
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.039
as well, Okay, if you're
going to agree to this, you can

605
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:51.400
you got to be here two years
or something like that, or you get

606
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:53.199
this much upfront, you get the
rest on the back end, whatever it

607
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:58.000
may be. But nil, like, there is going to be illegal for

608
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.800
you to tell these student athletes that
they cannot make money from the name,

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image and likeness even when they're employees. Which, by the way, we'll

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get at this later. How about
Boise State, Like with a bold strategy,

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they're head coach letting freshmen know you're
we're not gonna let you make any

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money. I mean, like,
that's a great that's a great marketing,

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marketing strategy. That'll really get the
buzz going about Boise being the place to

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play. Right now, All right, quick break stick around. We still

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got a ways to go before it
gets here. But the TBT is,

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I'm sure Louisville fans know is back
and they're going to play once again at

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Freedom Hall, and they are slowly
but surely putting the team together. Kyle

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Kuric is the latest former Cardinal to
commit to play for the squad, and

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right now they have let's see here, I believe the roster currently is Peyton

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Siva, Russ Smith, and I
don't want to walk through Kyle Kirrick and

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Montres Harrell. So it's a heck
of a squad right there. And they'll

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add more players. I've heard of
a couple of names that could potentially be

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joining, but it really comes down
to their professional situation, right So you

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can be I mean, I think
you can be in this event as long

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as you are not currently on an
NBA contract, So you can be on

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a G League contract but not an
NBA contract. So for example, David

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Johnson, I actually think it could
have worked out, but he was an

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injury situation potentially, or maybe it
was he was still you know, he

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had an opportunity to go work out, maybe get a tryout, and he

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just didn't want to get hurt.
I don't those specifics, but he was

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somebody that initially he was still on
an NBA contract I think from when he

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got drafted, which meant, even
though he's playing in the G League,

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he's on an NBA contract. But
once you're just in the G League as

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a G League player, not tied
to an NBA roster or an NBA franchise,

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then you can play. So like
Mantres Harrald, I really hope that

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he is a part of this.
But he's healthy now. He did not

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play this past year in the NBA
because of a torn ACL But I wouldn't

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be shocked if he ends up not
playing because he he's got a chance to,

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you know, sign a deal and
and go through summer league and maybe

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go through training camp. So I
know he I know he really really wants

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to play, Like he came to
some of the games last year if you

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remember, and was into it.
And U Tres is one of those guys.

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Because of the NAA situation, he
didn't you know, he wasn't the

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only thing he you know, I
don't. I wouldn't even say he got

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in trouble. But Louisville, because
of their punishment from the n double A,

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they had to disassociate themselves from a
handful of players. He was one

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of them. So for like a
three year, three year window they couldn't

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like promote in the arena. He
was a former player, and they couldn't

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let him at ten games, you
know, with tickets that were provided by

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the school. He couldn't be in
the locker room, he couldn't come work

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out of the facility like a lot
of former players most all former players can.

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So that was tough for him because
he loved his time here at Louisville.

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But that since passed, and you
know, he's I think he'll see

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him in Louisville here and there throughout
the rest of his life, so you

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know, and I'm biased, of
course, but Trees was the most.

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He was the NBA sixth Man of
the Year just a few years ago.

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I believe it was in I know
it was when he was playing with the

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Yeah, and twenty twenty one,
or no, I'm sorry, it was

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twenty twenty. Yeah, he averaged
eighteen points and seven rebounds in let me

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see how many minutes he played in
twenty seven minutes and was he was the

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NBA six Man of the Year,
and then the following year had another.

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I mean this, He's averaged double
figures every year he's been in the league

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since twenty eighteen, so the fact
that he you know, his last year

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was in Philly and he ended up
being waived because of the injury this past

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year and didn't play. But man, I'm hoping he can get back out

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there because he's talented and I mean
high energy guy. Like every NBA team

667
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can use somebody that just plays like
a madman with intensity, physicality, and

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you know, Trez worked on his
outside shot a lot when he was when

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he was here in his senior junior
year and he got better at it.

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But I felt like I think he
felt as if he was gonna make in

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the NBA, he really needed to
have a perimeter game. And you know,

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I'm sure that's helped him a little
bit that he can knock down some

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shots. But he became a known
player in the league, you know,

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winning six Man of the Year because
he's a dog that will rip it off

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the will rip the backboard off or
rip the rim off the backboard and get

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get his I mean, he's just
a high energy guy and every team needs

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that. So it should be fun. I can't wait to see how the

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roster finishes out. And you know, Pat Kelsey's gonna be there court side,

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getting you know, bringing energy and
it's gonna be a lot of fun,

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no doubt. It's a lot of
fun last year. But now we

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got a new era here. And
I know, Pat Kelsey, I mean

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Kenny Payne came to one game.
Jeff Braum came to more of the TBT

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games last year than Kenny Payne did. Bum

