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Breaking down all the exes at all. It's Steve Rivera and Jagen Salmas.

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This is I on the ball on
Fox Sports fourteenth fifty talking back down on

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the ball around Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm jagon Zalez, my usual partner

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in crime. Steve Rivera is on
the road. We just had him on

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and then dropped the call right with
the yeah, with about a minute less.

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But I perfect, perfect, he
was perfect. But I've got Greg

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Hanson as a guest host in here. Greg Hanson, long time calments theres

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on daily. Do I call you
semi retired? Do I call you retired?

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What do I call you? Okay, okay, you're barely working.

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So but Greg's come in to join
us for a couple of hours here.

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I think I'm having a good time. We had Josh Passer on a little

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earlier and gave me all all the
batting advice I needed for the rest of

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the or at least for the Sweet
sixteen and Elit eight, So I'll be

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using that. And then Steve begged
me not to take Houston, which I

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can't. I can't commit to that. Yeah, I can't commit to that.

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Listen though, Well, no I'm
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I I so far A stayed off
Arizona, and I will stay off

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Arizona because I don't want to,
you know, kill their chances. But

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you know, Houston is fair game. I can take Houston if I want

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to. I think I don't know
what their line is in the in the

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in this game. I know Arizona
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I don't know if it still is. Anyways, we're here at the top

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of the hour, so we got
breaking news with Analyse Sports fourteen fifty.

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Hit it again, this news on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Okay, welcome

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to breaking news. We're gonna start
with a few just random Arizona things I

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saw today. Tiger Christiansen, Arizona
golfer is the Pac twelve golfer of the

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week. I think they just had
a tournament and I think he won,

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right, Yep, he would shout
of sixty five the last days, all

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eighteen holes, because you know,
when I play nine, I'm closer to

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sixty five after nine than I.
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twelve golfer were very good. And
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they're really good, aren't they this
year. Oh, Tiger Christen might be

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the best athlete on campus. Yeah
wow, I mean they they're loaded.

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They have like seven or eight players. Yeah. I mean, you know

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we had we had Jim Anderson on
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But then, I mean, they're
winning tournaments. Didn't they win the one

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in Hawaii? Yeah, you know, they won here last and then they

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won here the tournament they had here
last week. It wasn't a good field,

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but they wont. Yeah, they're
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then going to Arizona track and Field, slash cross country. Trevion White Austin

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is the was named the PAC twelve
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the thirty three year old school record
in one hundred meters. I looked it

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up yesterday to see if there's an
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there is. The two hundred meter
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and he's this closed to break the
two. Wow, that's awesome. When

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I heard that the record was still
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that was a really long time ago. You know, I'm thirty three years

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I was. I was young when
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Remember how big time he was.
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a bronze medal yep, yep in
the Olympics. Yep. And then so,

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Sir Jonathan Simms is the PAC twelve
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posting his personal best leap and this
is this first place victory. He got

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his fourth in the in school history
and currently ranks first in the nation this

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year. What was his leap twenty
six dash one point wow. Vance Johnson

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holds that record twenty six eleven wow. So he's gaining on it. Finished

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like anch out of the Olympics.
I remember that. I remember that.

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Yeah. So this was all just
posted like within the hour. Oh cool,

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very cool, good stuff. Yeah, so that was cool. And

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then I don't know if every and
saw this, but they did a Sweet

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sixteen sent off for the men's basketball
team today at McHale and there were a

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bunch of people outside with signs wishing
Wildcats good luck in the Sweet sixteen.

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There was Brent Brennan, was there, Sarita Stubbs. I don't think they've

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ever done that before. Was the
public invited to that? Was it just

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McHale people? I don't know,
there was a bunch of people. Yeah,

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that's cool. I mean, you
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right and you know pretty much,
you know all the time as we were

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talking about I think the new athletic
director probably helped organize them. Yeah,

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that's awesome. That's a great idea. Very cool. Yeah, very cool.

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And then there were just some other
things you guys were already talking about

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that room. So I guess it
is confirmed, not just rumors, that

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SMU is hiring Andy Einfield from USC
and men's basketball coach. His days were

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numbered there, weren't they. I
mean, weren't they never just about done

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with him? He was just a
vanilla personality. Yeah, I mean he

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had that run Florida Gulf Coast.
They jumped on him and never really material

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wise did the USC. So now
who does USC go get well going into

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the Big ten? At least they
have a new a d who may hire

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better than the former US. Do
you think they'll have someone within a few

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days? What do you think the
US? Yeah, you almost need to

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at this point, I mean,
the portal is open and all that stuff.

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I mean, you got, you
know, all their players, how

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many of their players are going to
jump in the portal. You know,

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it's that whole thing that enters now
into you know, coaches coming and going

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anymore. They're best players, that
freshmen who won't come back. Yeah,

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that freshman guard. Well that's that's
a tough job. It's almost like ASU

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basketball. No, I mean really
it is. I mean it's like,

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you know, it's sad though you
know they care about football over there.

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You're in the LA market, so
you know you're behind everybody else, especially

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if you're USC basketball. I mean, I mean U c l A Basketball

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doesn't draw like you used to.
I mean those you know, some of

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their games. You go, you
watch your games, you go, who's

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even there? And that was blaming
on the traffic, but you know what,

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go to the games and Mick Crona
came in and plays a slow down

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style, tries to beat your fifty
nine to fifty seven. Yeah, they're

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not going to LA. People aren't
going to drive out for that. Yeah.

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Well there was the guy that took
me to three final fours. Oh,

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same guy, Ben Allen. Yeah, he's the same guy, right,

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that's why they fired him. Yeah, and you know, maybe not

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as grouchy as as Cronan, but
still a grouchy guy. He wasn't he

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was a grouchy guy. I the
I worked two regionals that they played in,

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you know, in that stretch when
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He was grouchy. He really was. At the same time, USC had

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Kevin O'Neill and u c l A
had Ben Holland. How could you have

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two less likable guys and go on. I like Kevin, I like him,

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yeah, but as yeah, you're
right as a as a basketball as

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the head coach, he was kind
of challenging. But U c l A

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was good even just a few years
ago. They were really good. Well

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they were, they were in the
fire. He inherited, inherited. Yeah,

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that's true, all right. I
have a couple more things. So,

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like you guys mentioned earlier, maybe
you didn't mention this. The Washington

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State athletic director leaves to go to
rival Patrick Chuhn. Yeah, yeah,

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I mean he goes from being a
no conference athletic director to a Big ten

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conference athletic director. With Jed fish
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know that whole thing with Jed,
I mean, the the ad that hires

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them leaves five, you know,
is gone after five months up there and

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crazy stuff, you know. I
mean I don't know that. I mean

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when I worked at McDonald's, I
wasn't going to quit after five months.

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But Patrick Chuhn gone from Washington State
has I mean, he had a lot

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to do with trying to hold the
hold the whole thing together because he knew

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that the position that they were in, and I think he became pretty influential

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after that. But now you know
he's gone. So what are they going

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to do up there? They've lost
their basketball coach, They've lost lost their

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athletic director. What do you do? I asked Steve Hekey about a month

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before he's fired, who were the
most effective ads in the league? And

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he said, Patrick jump yeah the
first Yeah, because he does he did

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so much so little. Yeah.
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it's all done. What about Oregon
State? I mean Scott Barnes,

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Yeah, you know, they lost
their football coach, you know, I

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mean, you know some and the
basketball can't afford to pay them all,

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and you know, and then once
in Wayne Tinkle, I mean, what

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are they going to do with him? They only big money through I think

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twenty eight. Yeah, that's a
tough job. Yeah, Yeah, but

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they're bringing in a lot of money. Man, all these you know,

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Arizona's bringing him at bringing him a
lot of NCAA tournament money. They got

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a bunch of bull met there.
They got money, but they don't have

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much else up there. You know, what do you what do you think

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is going to happen there? Do
you think they become you know, a

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sort of a little higher level Mountain
West or what do you think happens?

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Their best option has to be to
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because there's no other option. Yeah, what other option is there? I

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mean, do they go hand pick
you know, six Mountain West teams and

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maybe I don't know, I don't
know who else is out there though,

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you know they unlike the Pac twelve, the Mountain West has like a big

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fifteen dollars million penalty if you exit
the league. So no one's going to

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leave, right And that leads me
to ask, could they kick sant as

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they stayed out somebody like that?
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an Oregon state or in Washington state. But that let's say, or let's

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say the Mountain West as it is
right now, and they add Oregon State,

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Washington State. That doesn't make them
a Power five or you know,

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that doesn't lift them up into the
power conferences. And I'm never going to

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get a TV deal yeah, other
than the one they have, right,

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I mean there's still a you know, group of five, right even if

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they had those two guys. So
what so what do you do? Do

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you stay independent? What options do
they have? I don't know. I

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don't even know. You can't stay
independent. It's sad because Oregon State's got

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it almost a top ten baseball program, yeah, and washing State doesn't have

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any, but that's the one program
and then organ States gymnastics programs top ten.

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Yeah, and football has been good. But as we said that,

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you know, Jonathan Martin left.
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I don't know. I certainly choose
that. I wouldn't want to be in

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with those guys over there. All
right, what else you got? So?

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The first televised spring spring football game
will be happening this year. It's

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Ohio State on the nationally television national
nationally televised spring game, first ever Ohio

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State on Fox. What do you
guys think about that? Didn't they do

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Colorado last year? So we're talking
a network, national network, you know.

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No, I'm not watching it,
right, Yeah, I got things

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to do. But I mean somebody
did the research and said, you know,

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we'll get maybe you know whatever their
alternative programming is, you know,

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that day, I guess they figured
out this will be better than anything else

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we got, you know, the
you know US or the United Football isn't

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the United Football League now the combination
USFL and XFL, Arena Arena ball whatever.

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Maybe they say it's football. It's
Ohio State people watch, I don't

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know, Midwestern. Yeah, I'm
not watching. I mean I go to

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the Arizona spring game and I'm I'm
disappointed every year every time because it's like

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I could see the scrimmage at one
of your practices. You know, I

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didn't like. I didn't like Jed's
spring games and then the fall you know,

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scrimmage. I didn't like. I
want to see a game and he

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never played like a game a game. All right, that's pretty much it

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for breaking news. But there was
something that I kind of saw just randomly

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on Instagram that I thought was funny, and that is that the U it

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was a comparison. I don't know
if you guys saw this of the UNC

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starting five age versus the Oklahoma OKCS
starting five age and it was the same

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twenty two years old. This is
average starting five age of UNCO. I

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thought that's kind of interesting because you
think about, like Kylin Boswell, isn't

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he like eighteen? He's eighteen,
And I don't know, it's just kind

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of funny to think about the difference
in the age that they're going up against.

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Like Cormack Ryan on UNC is twenty
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eighteen. That's seven years. Yeah, huge factor. That's a huge factor.

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Yeah. But how old is Keishad
Johnson? Yeah? Right, yeah,

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those Pack twelve quarterbacks twenty four it's
not just kind of interesting. Well,

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Michael Pennix is so old that he's
not being drafted high because he's so

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old. I got told that,
I got told you we had who do

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we have on the on the show? And I would saying, why is

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Michael Pennix not being mentioned to me? And I thought all year long last

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year he was the best quarterback in
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better than Bo Nicks. I thought
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And they said, because he's twenty
whatever, and he's got two or

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three fewer years to play than those
other guys. And so the MBM,

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the NFL looks at that. You're
you're you're buying a quarterback that's got a

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lot of miles. He's twenty three, Michael Pennix really about to be twenty

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four, Yeah, about to be
twenty. Okay, all right, you

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know Caleb Williams is twenty twenty one, twenty two. But they said a

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year or two matters to these NFL
teams. It's one less you know,

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that's one less year that you're going
to you know when when he gets to

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his five year content tck, he's
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Streaming live on the iHeartRadio Whip,
This is I on the Ball with Steve

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Ravera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports
fourteen to fifty. Welcome back down the

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ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your host, Jay Gonzales.

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My buddy Steve is on the road
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little while and then dropped the call, so he's gone. He's out of

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sight, out of mind for now. I do have Greg Hanson in here,

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a longtime Arizona Daily Star columnist,
filling in for Steve, and Alisa's

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running the board. Got Jim Rosber
on the phone, former Arizona assistant now

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a Pima women's basketball assistant now coming
off. I guess Jim a fun run

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at the tournament. I know,
you know you got beat that first game,

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but then you had a nice little
run after that. Tell us a

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little bit about how you're feeling about
what your team did at the national tournament.

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Actually, it was spectacular. We
won the first one actually, and

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then lost the second one to the
defending champion, and then reeled off three

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again really talent wise, quickness wise, better than we were, So it

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was absolutely a spectacular run. I
don't know, Greg may know, but

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Jay were starting four freshmen and one
posphomore, and they were spectacular. Our

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little point guard Riley Wall, the
last game we played on Saturday, went

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off for forty three points, a
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So it was absolutely a spectacular season, absolutely spectacular tournament. What you do

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is you want to give your girls
a chance to play the last weekend,

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and we did. Saturday was the
last day you could play in our division.

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We got that far, so all
in all, couldn't have been better,

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couldn't have been more fun. I
could overhear what you were just saying,

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and I don't know why you guys
are worried about my having a neat

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replacement when I'm only forty five.
What's going on? Yeah? See when

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Greg said, when Greg told me
what your age was, I didn't believe

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him for a second. I said, as Jim, Jim is in his

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forties for sure. So when I
get up there, when I get up

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in the morning and look in the
mirror, I can tell you it ain't

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in the forties anymore. So.
Yeah, So, Jim, when you

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have a season like this where you
feel, you know, you feel good

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at the end of it, how
does that carry you into next year?

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You mentioned you got four freshmen presuming
they're going to come back, and you

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build on that. Well, you
know, tell me the kinds of things

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that you put into an off season
when you've had a season like you had

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this year. Well, you know, I think everybody gets it needs to

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get away and get refreshed a little
bit and then we'll get back at least

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in the spring. Here the shooting
a couple of times a week. But

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you know the thing is, and
I you know, chatted with Todd when

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we were in the air for you
get done Saturday and you win the game.

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It was about one point thirty.
We won by two o'clock. You're

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already thinking about next season or recruiting. Who's going to be back off this

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team, maybe adjustment and offense.
Maybe you just frankly and you guys know

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about this. You just don't get
away from it. So, uh,

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you have a great, great feeling
when it's over, but then you're already

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moving on to next season or the
spring or something. It just it just

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doesn't stop. It doesn't seem right
that you guys won all those games in

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a row and only finished seventh.
Shouldn't you have been like fourth or something?

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Well, I thought I thought we
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so I voted as number one.
Well, you you win one,

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and we were a pigtail bracket,
and then we went into the main draw

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and you lose there you go into
the consolation bracket. So they're just the

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way they set it up. Greg. There just wasn't anything we could do.

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But we did beat some very very
good teams, a couple of them

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from out East. And you know, you guys would both agree if you

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were to see these teams that they
had a lot of talent, a lot

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of quickness. So I don't get
the whole seating thing. Just I just

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try to get ready to play the
next next game. But yeah, I

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would agree with you. Running off
three in a row. Three in a

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row at the end might seem like
there could have been a higher spot for

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us, But all in all,
again, to get them to the last

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day of the season, I thought
was pretty terrific. Well, I was

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going to say, because you know, you have the disappointment of being eliminated

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from the main tournament, but you
kind of get to get back to a

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feel good spot by having the opportunity
to do that. How important is that

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for you guys? Well, I
mean, you know, you guys could

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sit there right now and count up. So there's only about seven or eight

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teams in the country in any division
that finished on a high note by winning,

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and that is we did in a
constellation bracket, the division one,

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Champ, two Champ, three Champ, an AI A champ. There's only

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again about eight to finish on a
high note. So I think that's really

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pretty cool and fron of the girls
who worked hard, and again we're talking

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about fall. We had no clue
how this team was going to be,

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but for them to be able to
finish as they did, and all of

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them have good seasons, get along, no drama. Uh So it was

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just you know, it really ends
on a great note when you win.

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How many games did you win?
Thirty? Now we were twenty six and

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nine. Yeah, it's amazing every
year after year after year. Todd and

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you you guys just roll. Well. It's a it's a good system and

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Todd does a good job. As
you know, Greg and Jay and I

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think we work well together. I
think we're all of us that are there

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coaching wise, are on pretty much
the same page as to what we want

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to do. We were off with
good defensively, We were a good help

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side team, very very generous with
the basketball. So I mean all the

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things that you you guys have seen
year after year from Arizona other good teams,

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we were able to get across to
the girls. And I also thought,

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this is not to I mean,
any of the other teams we've had

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anywhere, but it was maybe the
smartest team, smartest team. It was

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a picking up stuff that I'd been
associated with. And you know, we

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had, you guys know, some
kind of knuckleheads. And I'm kidding when

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I say that. Down at Arizona. Some of them still don't know the

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place. So these girls picked up
things quickly and you could make little adjustments

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of practice or shooting, and they
were really a smart us as well.

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So all in all, a really
great year. Jimmy, I'm saying this

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in the nicest way possible, but
you've got a lot of miles as a

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coach. You've been coaching for a
lot of years. What is it about

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working with Todd Holthouse and working with
this PIMA program that keeps you going?

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Why do you keep doing this?
Well? I love it. It's just

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something that's been in my blood since
my dad put up a hoop on my

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garage, his garage when I was
three years old. And I really loved

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the association with the kids. Todd's
a great person to work with, you

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know, we get along well.
It gives your room to do your stuff

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and do your thing, and we've
got a pretty good division of duties on

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the court there on. I like
it. It's like your friend there Hanson

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likes golf, even after that double
bogie on number eighteen, still likes golf.

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Just gets in your blood and something
you want to do. I like

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the competition, I like the even
still the slow on the game day where

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you got a little bit of stress. At least you know you're still upright

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and involved. So it's just something
that gets in your blood. And so

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far physically I've been able to hold
up reasonably well. So you know,

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as long as that's good, I
think another season or two is in the

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books. All right, that's very
very cool. Well let's let's break into

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something that I know you're very familiar
with a lot of years playing the Nancy

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Double A tournaments. Arizona's in the
Sweet sixteen this year. First of all,

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you know, we've had a whole
season of watching them ups and downs,

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more up and downs, but the
downs have been big downs because they've

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lost. They lost to some bad
teams. Your general impression of where they

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are today, well, I went
down today, Jay watched say based on

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everything I see, you know,
let's to me last weekend winning and getting

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into the sweet sixteen was always we
lost him? Can you text some time?

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We dropped the call. We just
we just dropped the call. So

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I'm not sure what what what's happening
there, but we'll get we'll try and

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get him back on He was just
just about to give us his thoughts on

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Arizona. So we'll see if we
can we can continue with that. But

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you know, you know, I
think he was I think he's about to

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say that he thinks they got a
really good shot at this thing. Think

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he was going to say that they
made the sweet sixteen. And now is

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where, yeah, and this is
where where where it all starts to happen.

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I hope he's got I hope he's
got our number on his on his

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phone so he can he can give
us a call right back. He's he

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Is he back in town? Do
you know where where where gym is?

408
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:08.559
Or is he on his way back? Oh? He's back. He went

409
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:11.759
to the practice. Oh did he
golf with you today? No? But

410
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.359
he went to the u A practice
this morning. Oh okay, all right,

411
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:18.839
Okay. He's seen it all.
Yeah, well yeah, I mean,

412
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.039
you know, he's seen ups and
downs. He was on the you

413
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.599
know, with the national championship team. He was on the bench when that

414
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:27.240
same team lost the next year,
and that was you know when Steve and

415
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.720
I keep bringing that one up.
That was a horrible day, you know,

416
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:34.000
for them. But you know,
but he did, you know,

417
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:38.039
he just keeps coaching, which is
amazing. You know, he went.

418
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:45.400
He likes to talk about nineteen eighty
final four. Iowa went and they were

419
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.960
probably the equivalent today before or five
seed, and they got to the final

420
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.720
four and they beat John Thompson and
Georgetown to get there. They had to

421
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.960
play a perfect game in the head. And that's a pretty good legacy.

422
00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:02.680
Yeah. And he saw the whole
he build it Iowa with lout and he

423
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:07.200
saw the whole thing here and uh
oh he could. He should write a

424
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.920
book. We we write a couple
of books because he's you know, and

425
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.519
again the fact that he stayed here
too, you know, to keep doing

426
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:18.240
this to me that I think that
says a lot about I love the place.

427
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:21.480
You know, I've talked to a
number of times about all the guys,

428
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:23.799
you know, all the athletes,
men, women that have come through

429
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:27.000
the U of A from places far
away and you know and stick around.

430
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:32.240
You know, Larry Smith, Jim
Young, Dick Tomy, you know,

431
00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:34.759
guys like that. You know Luke
who could have gone anywhere he wanted,

432
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:38.640
however many times he wanted to go
and always stayed here even after he was

433
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.799
done. You know, all of
all of those things. And a guy

434
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:47.119
like Roz, you know, came
from somewhere else and and and just the

435
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.119
fact that he stayed here. Now
you know, he's he's helping this program

436
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:55.000
at PEMA be really good. You
know. He was a heart and soul

437
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:59.200
of those Arizona programs for what nineteen
years. Yeah, he was the player

438
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:02.480
rep. I mean everything flowed through
him. Well, let me ask you

439
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.400
that because you you know, you
you you covered the team a lot more,

440
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:07.200
a lot longer, and a lot
more than I did. You know,

441
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:10.359
in the years that I that I
covered Arizona basketball, Kevin O'Neil was

442
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:12.200
that guy. And at the time, you know, I loved Kevin.

443
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:17.519
You know, however, grumpy he
became as a head coach as the player

444
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:21.319
you know him and Ricky bird Song
you know, as the as sort of

445
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:25.440
the players coaches. I thought,
you know, Kevin and Ricky did a

446
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:29.440
great job of that. You know, he was awesome and uh, you

447
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:33.759
know, and if Froz was that
guy for for uh you know, the

448
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:41.839
the those years, you can see
why that success continued. You know,

449
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.359
he he got a head coaching job
in Northern Illinois after the Iowa success,

450
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.640
right, and those jobs are so
risky when you go to a small school

451
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:51.640
like that, Right, they don't
give you time. Plus he got a

452
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:55.319
new athletic director, so his career
didn't get to develop as a head coach

453
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:59.119
because that new athletic director let him
go after three years at Northern Illinois.

454
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.440
Yeah, just when they're going I'm
good. The guy who replaced him came

455
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:06.000
in with his talent and went to
the NCAA tournament. Yeah, and then

456
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.920
Ross gets branded. He had his
chance, right, right, so he

457
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:11.599
made the most out of his second
chance. But getting back with Lute,

458
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:17.599
Yeah, exactly where do you think
he would have fit as as a head

459
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:22.920
coach? Man? He's You know, when Mike Hopkins was hired by Washington

460
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.839
career assistant at Syracuse, I thought
they celebrated him. We got this guy,

461
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:32.079
this great guy Hopkins from Syracuse.
I thought Rosboro was more qualified than

462
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.359
that guy. Yeah, what a
personality. Was an engaging guy. Yeah,

463
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.000
knows basketball inside and out. But
he got his one chance and didn't

464
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:42.480
get the second chance. I know
it bothers him. Yeah, not actively

465
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:47.480
anymore, but when he talks about
I can tell there's still a source pot

466
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:51.319
there. Yeah wow wow, interesting
because you know, again, you know,

467
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:55.000
always the good soldier, right,
and and then clearly a good talent

468
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.119
evaluator, you know, because he
you know, because he was bringing in

469
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.680
guys and and then and then coaching
them. I mean, he was just

470
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:06.799
a guy. He was involved in
everything. He would go to their classes

471
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.119
in the morning to make sure they
were in the classroom. Really, I

472
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:14.079
mean that's getting up early, that
is. And then he would he would

473
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:16.720
mentor him because you know, Lout
wasn't that kind of a touchy feely guy,

474
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:22.880
right, He never was. So
Roz was deservedly inducted into the Assistant

475
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:27.039
Coaches Hall of Fame in Atlanta two
years ago in the second class. Ever,

476
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:30.799
so that shows how much other people
outside of you of athing Yeah,

477
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:35.640
yeah, how much does it bug
him that he wasn't ever a head coach

478
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.359
again after after that? You know, I don't think he ever even applied

479
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:45.000
again. I don't, Yeah,
because you know what it's like. When

480
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.039
he got here into Lute, it
was rolling. Yeah, you wanted to

481
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.400
be a part of that, and
he remained a part of it. Yeah,

482
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:52.359
he stayed a big part of it
for all that time. Yeah.

483
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:55.079
Yeah. Now, and I you
know, I think that I know a

484
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.960
lot of people here know him and
know of the work that he did,

485
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:05.599
but I still think maybe a little
underppreciated for what he did here. And

486
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:10.000
this isn't a nice thing that happened
to him. You know when Luke kind

487
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:14.359
of wobbled at the end, Yeah, he got rid of you. Yeah,

488
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.799
I remember that. Yeah, I
do just a crazy thing. Yeah,

489
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:21.000
nobody understood that, and there was
no way for him. Luke couldn't

490
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:24.000
make it up here. Then everything
fell apart. Yeah yeah, well yeah

491
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:29.160
that was that. That was that
all right? Okay, Well, sorry

492
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.839
that we dropped the call with with
with Roz, but uh, you know,

493
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:35.000
we had a little good, good
conversation with him. Too bad that

494
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:37.640
we didn't Uh, we didn't get
a chance to get him back. But

495
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:39.640
we're gonna come back. We have
a segment. We can take your calls

496
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.559
five two zero four one, six
seventy four for We've talked about a lot

497
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.119
of stuff today. You know,
Rivera's been on. We had Josh Passner

498
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.720
taking Houston in the National champion for
the National Championship, doesn't have you can't

499
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.519
even getting into the final four,
uh, And I had a lot of

500
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:59.039
breaking news, some coaching changes us. He's going to be looking for a

501
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:00.880
new head coach, So give us
a call if you want five two zero,

502
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:04.319
four, one, six, seventy
four, forty. I have Greg

503
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.200
Hanson here. If you've always wanted
to ask him a question, we'll let

504
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you out. We'll let y as
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505
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This is I on the Ball with
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Surgery I on the Ball. Welcome
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Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Jagonzales.
Steve Rivera is still on the road somewhere

551
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in LA. For getting close to
it, I guess Greg Hanson has joined

552
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us as a guest's co host,
and we got Jim Rosboro back to finish

553
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up the conversation. We're just getting
started his thoughts on Arizona. Jim,

554
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:49.400
I appreciate you you calling back.
We'll take some calls after we have this

555
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.159
little conversation with Jim. But you
were just starting to talk about talk about

556
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.880
your thoughts on Arizona were what were
you about to say? Well, and

557
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:59.119
I did stop down today just to
see him and to wish to everybody,

558
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:04.079
well, you know, they were
sharp today and everything that you can say

559
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.519
as a cliche has to happen.
But they have good players. You know,

560
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:10.079
you guys know that they have good
players, they have good talent,

561
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:15.559
They've got a good amount of depth
that you know will help them. So

562
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:20.639
I think they're in a good place. But the the whole deal is you

563
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.559
have to understand that right now,
this is just a basketball game. Don't

564
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:28.119
put added pressure on yourself. Don't
do anything. The court's still ninety four

565
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:31.239
feet by fifty. The ball is
the same size, the rims that say

566
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:36.559
the same side. Be ready to
go. But don't overdo the pressure on

567
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.480
yourself. Somebody wants said pressure is
a privilege, and I agree with that.

568
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:43.840
But you don't want to overstress yourself
out. It's a basketball game and

569
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.440
get out, have fun, do
the things that you've been taught. I

570
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:50.840
think they're in a good place and
in a good position. Frankly, well,

571
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:52.679
how do you do that, Jim? Or how can you as a

572
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:59.519
coach help them realize that or understand
that and have that mentality? How hard

573
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:02.280
is that to do? Well?
I mean, the truth, the truth

574
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:07.119
is the truth. I think you
talked to him about it and understand help

575
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.039
them to understand. Yeah, we're
Week sixteen team and everything else. But

576
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:14.199
you know, they've played a good
schedule. They've played about a thousand games

577
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:19.159
a piece from AAU ball when they
were young. So it's just to keep

578
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.159
things in focus. It's not bigger
than what it is. And you guys

579
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:27.000
both remember, I mean our ninety
seventeen that wanted they didn't know what the

580
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.039
heck was going on, and there
were no great expectations, and you beat

581
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:34.800
Kansas, and then maybe after we
beat Kansas things stepped up a little bit,

582
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:38.440
but you just kind of let it
happen and maybe talked to the kids

583
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:42.880
a little bit about it and try
to keep the stress level down and let

584
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.199
them have jelly bean fights at dinner
and gone stuff like that. It's just

585
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:51.039
keep it as normal as you can. Yeah, well, well then let

586
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:52.880
me follow up. Then, So
let's say that the ninety eighteen the next

587
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:58.559
year, that every all year long
they're supposed to win it again. Would

588
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:01.599
that have been a case where the
the expectations maybe got the best of them.

589
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:07.000
Well, that's a long story.
That's off the record. Okay,

590
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.159
all right, never mind, No, I mean that was that was a

591
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:14.679
good team and unfortunately three of our
top guys just had bad shooting days.

592
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:16.719
Yeah. I mean, it wasn't
that we didn't get shots. But you

593
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:20.480
know, again then you wonder if
you could slice the kid's head open.

594
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:23.239
What what caused that happened? Because
we've been so good all year and you

595
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:27.719
know, five, well eight returning
guys, you know. So, yeah,

596
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.960
that was a big, big disappointment
that year that we didn't win it.

597
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:35.639
Again. I got a question about
that game. Yes, Majeris puts

598
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:39.679
on the triangle in two and everybody
made a lot about that. Was that

599
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:44.480
that big of a deal. Was
that the deciding factor that defense? No?

600
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:49.000
I think more more the deciding factor
was that we didn't shoot the ball.

601
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:51.960
Well. I bet if you and
I Greg sat down and looked at

602
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.440
the film, Miles had good shots, Jason Harry had good shots, Bivvy

603
00:40:55.480 --> 00:41:00.559
had good shots, and some days
they just simply don't go. It was

604
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.360
just a bad day, and it
was some of the key people that bad

605
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:06.679
bad days. I mean a Trianglee
two is fine, but you still got

606
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:09.920
to move and still got to make
cuts and get your hands on the ball,

607
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:14.440
and I think we did that,
but we just simply we didn't make

608
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.519
shots. Now they can say trying
one too. I don't think I'd buy

609
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:22.039
that. I think we didn't make
shots. So so this team's in the

610
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:28.280
sweet sixteen. You went to some
sweet sixteens, is there? You know

611
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:31.559
you kind of feel like the final
fours in reach? How do you get

612
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:36.280
them to keep their eye on what
they're doing knowing that, look, we

613
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:40.079
win a couple more games, we're
in it. Right what's Tommy having to

614
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:44.719
talk to his guys about right now? Oh, everybody knows that. I

615
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:49.840
mean everybody that follows basketball from ninety
five years old to twenty two knows what's

616
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:53.079
insight. But you just you cannot
look ahead. I worked for a guy

617
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:57.440
named J. D. Barnett at
Tulsa, and he told us one day

618
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.199
at practice, Coaches, I hear
any of you you say the word final

619
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:04.880
four, I'm gonna fire you on
the spot. So I just don't think

620
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.320
you even even remotely talk about that. You hardly dare to let yourself think

621
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:13.880
about that. Now. If you're
up two points or up ten points against

622
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:16.679
North Carolina, for example, in
the next game, then you can start

623
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:21.119
thinking about it. But it's just
dangerous to talk about it. It's dangerous

624
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:23.480
to overlook the next people. You
just you just can't do it. You

625
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:29.480
never even mention it. You just
get ready for the next game when you

626
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:31.559
look at the opponent. And I
don't know how much you've looked at Clemson,

627
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:34.599
if you've got a chance to see
their game or anything like that,

628
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.440
anything about the matchup that you're aware
of that we should keep an eye out

629
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:44.159
for. You know what happens on
Thursday. No, not really. I

630
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:45.679
saw them a little bit the other
day. I watched them, and really

631
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:50.840
I think they've been a little bit
of a surprise team. They were either

632
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.800
seated a little bit lower, but
they've come on strong at the end.

633
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.519
And this is what you want want
to happen for your team, is that

634
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:02.159
you're playing well at the right time
and now in the tournament. Just based

635
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:07.400
on the little bit I saw,
I would say perhaps if the Arizona squad

636
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:12.639
is a little bit quicker, certainly
is big, but again it all boils

637
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.159
down to matchups and how you're shooting
and taking care of the ball. So

638
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:21.679
again, sitting here today, very
dangerous to say, but I think Arizona

639
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:23.519
has a really good chance to win
that game. Would be my feeling,

640
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:28.360
all right, all right, of
all the years you were involved, from

641
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:31.199
the Sweet sixteen and beyond at Arizona, who is the best team you ever

642
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:35.960
played? I might vote for Arkansas
from what I saw, But what would

643
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:38.559
you say as a coach? Well, I think I think one or both

644
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:43.480
of you were there, and that's
the team we played after we beat Kansas,

645
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:45.360
and that was Providence, and I'll
tell you, I think that was

646
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:49.760
an overtime game. They were loaded. I think God Sham God was the

647
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.840
point guard, and how you're going
to beat him and their front line?

648
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.159
Greg, you remember that. I
mean they were giants, two hundred and

649
00:43:55.159 --> 00:44:00.840
fifty pounds and sixty ten. They
were an awful good team in the tournament.

650
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:04.800
You know, you could go back
and pick some other teams that were

651
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.320
good, but just off the top
of my head, I would say they

652
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:10.360
were awfully good. And then a
couple of those Kansas teams that we lost

653
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:14.760
to go to the final four,
what was that maybe two thousand and three

654
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:17.840
or something? They were three were
awfully good. So there were a couple,

655
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:22.239
but that Providence team was awful good. Okay, basic question, why

656
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:27.440
do you think you guys beat Kansas
in ninety seven? What happened that that

657
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:32.800
week or that night? How were
you guys able to do that. Well,

658
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:39.239
that's well, the whole trip down
there was screwed up. We got

659
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:43.199
we got in late, and we
were supposed to be a practice, and

660
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:46.360
that was that was late and too
late. It was just kind of everything

661
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.800
was kind of messed up. And
then we get on the floor and I

662
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:54.719
think I kind of feel with that
whole bunch just like I felt in nineteen

663
00:44:54.760 --> 00:45:00.599
eighties Iowa. I don't think anybody
that were the players really understood totally what

664
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:02.440
was going on, if you want
the truth. And then all of a

665
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:07.280
sudden, you're out there and you're
making baskets and bibi's and like a senior

666
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.400
and guys are playing out of their
gorse, and then all of a sudden,

667
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.480
I think, well, we got
a shot to win this thing.

668
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:14.920
And you know, you got to
give a lot of credit to the big

669
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:19.119
guys AJ Bramlett, who handled themselves
on the boards and stuff. But it

670
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.119
was just one of those things I
think probably just caught fire in the kids'

671
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.320
minds late in the game. But
you know, we stayed with them and

672
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:31.039
we battled, and that's probably what
led to the upset. Well, I've

673
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:36.000
always wondered about that, and it
was to me I think you know,

674
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:40.840
arguably, if not the best top
the number one Arizona win in history,

675
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:45.400
certainly the top two or three because
that one, like you said, unexpected,

676
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:50.760
completely unexpected, and then started that
run to the national championship. So

677
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:52.320
a lot of fun. Well,
Jim, we appreciate you calling back and

678
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:58.639
giving giving us some of your valuable
time. Love your perspective and you know,

679
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:01.880
safe travels going forward, and go
ahead and go ahead and take handsOn,

680
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:04.840
the money on the golf course,
all the all that you want and

681
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:07.719
let us know about it. Yeah, Dave, Greg thanks, always good

682
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:13.840
to be with you. Appreciate it. Did. Jim Rosborough, great guy

683
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:15.880
we've talked about. You know,
we all think the world of him.

684
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:21.599
He's been a great coach. It's
been a great two sonan. You know,

685
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:23.960
just somebody who's just always contributing here. I've loved having that guy around.

686
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:27.559
He moved here in nineteen ninety,
so he's been here a while.

687
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.039
Yeah, he counts, he counts, so definitely all right, though we

688
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:32.559
got got about a few more minutes
if you want to give us a call

689
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:37.719
about any of that. Five two
zero four one six Sety just to some

690
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:44.920
programming notes tomorrow. We've got a
loaded up show. We're gonna We're gonna

691
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:49.760
have Francisco or Meyer. We're gonna
talk some baseball because baseball gets started for

692
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:53.840
reels on Thursday. Francisco is the
Spanish language play by play guy for the

693
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:58.679
Houston Astros. As much as a
Dodger fan as I hate to have to

694
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:00.880
talk about the Astro, We're gonna
bring him in here. He's a local

695
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:05.039
guy and always a great guest.
We're gonna talk a little bit about some

696
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:09.440
women's gymnastics. You have a women's
just gymnastics team has made the uh the

697
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:13.199
the regional in Arkansas. They're gonna
be playing in that. Let's take this

698
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:15.559
call before go on. Hi,
you're on the air and eye on the

699
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:20.320
ball. Hey you guys, good
afternoon, This is Gave. How you

700
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:22.320
guys doing. We're good, Gabe, how are you what's on your mind?

701
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:30.320
I'm just getting over a cold.
But in regards to Arizona, they

702
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:35.199
got there. They go out of
the round of the three two and they're

703
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:39.760
in the Swiss the sweet sixteenth,
so they just need the stack wins on

704
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:45.320
top of each other and fingers.
You guys, so what do you what

705
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.440
do you think? Uh, what
do you think tomorrow night? What how

706
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:52.320
do they win that game? They
no mistakes, They just need to do

707
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:59.880
what. They just need to play, like Arizona Lights against Dayton and lomb

708
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:06.480
no mistake. If you're gonna commit
mistakes, well you're gonna have one a

709
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:10.199
plane ticket to home. So you
kind of afforded that. That's for sure.

710
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:14.199
That's for sure. All right,
Gabe, we appreciate it, Thank

711
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:21.280
you sir. Down in Arizona,
go cast let's kick them out. Gabe.

712
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:24.039
We love Gabe. He's he's he's
always got. He says ask sometime

713
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:29.039
during every call. So just so
you know a lot of times it's in

714
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:34.440
reference to Arizona State, but pretty
often. But okay, so I was

715
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:38.000
running down the lineup. So we've
got Jim John Court. Uh, you

716
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:44.079
have a gymnastics they're they're headed for
the regional uh at Fadeville, Arkansas next

717
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.280
week. They've had a great season
and and they're in in the n C

718
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:51.280
Double As again. And then Ryan
Hansen, who's on the radio, is

719
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:53.639
on the radio call with Brian Jefferies. He's going to give us a call

720
00:48:54.239 --> 00:49:00.400
tomorrow from La so we'll get his
sort of his preview of the game of

721
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:04.400
the game on Thursday, and then
no show on Thursday. We're not gonna

722
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:07.239
make you feel guilty about not listening
to us while the air Zona game is

723
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:08.880
on. Well you're not gonnaeel.
You wouldn't feel guilty anyway. So we're

724
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:12.840
just we're not even gonna try.
We're just gonna take the day off on

725
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.559
Thursday. I'm gonna sit home and
I'm gonna watch that game. Rivera will

726
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.400
be there, and so we're not
gonna have a show on Thursday. Then

727
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.199
Friday we'll bring it back kind of
depending on what happens. We'll get some

728
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:27.079
some folks in here to give us
an analysis of of all we can expect.

729
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.360
Were you talking about a win and
onto the Elite eight or we're talking

730
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:32.519
about a loss that I think if
they lose, I think people are gonna

731
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:36.840
still feel not very good about Oh
how they how far they got? Right,

732
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:39.960
don't you think absolutely? Especially since
Clemson will get no respect? Yeah?

733
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:43.920
Right? You know if it was
Baylor, you'd say yeah, you

734
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:45.599
know, yes, But it's clems
to say, well, it's a six

735
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:51.280
syed you should you should beat them? Right? If you go down?

736
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.280
I got the media guide here every
year at the tournament. You look at

737
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:57.960
the times they lost when you didn't
think they're gonna lose it. Yeah,

738
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.480
there's a whole bunch of them.
They went ten and eight in the sweet

739
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:05.320
sixteen, which is as good as
you could ever hope for. Yeah,

740
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:08.079
And if you'd have asked me,
I'd have thought the record was better than

741
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:12.800
that in the sweet sixteen because I
feel like there have been a bunch of

742
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:16.199
elite eights and then they didn't get
to the final fource. But you know,

743
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:19.880
I know, you know, there
were there a couple that stick out

744
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.519
for me with with lout there was
a they lost to Oklahoma I think,

745
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:29.159
uh that was the one in the
sweet sixteen that was just awful. Two

746
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:35.199
in San Jose. Yeah, the
loss, Yeah, they lost. Well,

747
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.599
I think the one that hurts the
most was the was the U n

748
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:40.679
LV loss in eighty nine than he
lost in the history of the basketball you

749
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:45.119
think, So vote yeah, near
number one? What would you vote?

750
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.280
You know? Yeah, because you
know, you know, there are all

751
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:53.880
those first round losses in like to
Santa Clair and East like Okay, but

752
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:58.719
the one that broke their hearts,
yeah, I think was that one in

753
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:00.320
the field because it came out of
nowhere. It was no good team.

754
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:04.079
Yeah it was. It would have
been seat in hall the next day or

755
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:08.880
to the next game, I mean
sel last game. I remember walking into

756
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:13.360
the locker down the corridor to the
locker room and his mom was there.

757
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.039
Yeah, and he was crying on
her shoulder. Yeah. Well, Clarence

758
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:20.000
tab from The Citizen had that great
photo of him crying on his mom's shoulder

759
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.119
in the hallway, just kind of
in the darkness of that hallway. I'll

760
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:25.360
never forget that locker room walk in
the locker room when they left the media

761
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:30.960
and Kenny Lofton is just sobbing,
just sobbing. I remember that that That

762
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.519
was the one that hurt the most
because they could have won the national championship.

763
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:37.760
Yep. Yeah, didn't Michigan win. Michigan won that one. But

764
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:39.840
they had a good team but not
but not great. Romal Robinson and all

765
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:44.880
that. Well, they beat Seaton
Hall for the championship. Could have been

766
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:47.880
an eight seed. Yeah, yeah, No, I think when you talk

767
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:52.880
about heartbreaking losses, because you know, the the eighty eight final four loss

768
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.079
was heartbreaking, but you were still
happy that they were in the final four

769
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:59.159
for the first time. Ever,
they lost, and they lost a really

770
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:01.800
good team. Yeah, I think
I think you could say that that was

771
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:05.920
that was a tough you know,
the ninety eight loss in the Elite eight.

772
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.960
But again they'd won a national championship, so it was kind of like,

773
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:10.719
okay, you know, I mean, I know my fan, you

774
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.719
know, we had gone to that
game as fans, and I know,

775
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:16.400
you know, Adam was five years
old, he was you know, he

776
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:20.840
already was devastated by you know,
by a loss, by that one.

777
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:24.760
But yeah, I think you have
to say eighty nine just was, you

778
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:29.000
know, heartbreaking for a lot of
for all the you know that team,

779
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:34.039
Cook, Lofton, Elliott, you
know, all those guys you know on

780
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.519
that team, and that it went
down and that to U n L V

781
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:43.800
Evolf teams right to Rememberanian I still
remember at his press conference, Tarcanian stands

782
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:52.239
up and goes, I sent Luther
home and just chuckled. Yeah. Yeah,

783
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:53.679
well we were there for that,
all right. Hey, Greg,

784
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:58.960
thanks for doing this. Thank you
appreciate it. It was fun. I'm

785
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:01.039
glad we got a chance to do
this and go down memory lane a little

786
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:04.719
bit. But a lot of stuff
going on now and didn't get a chance

787
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:07.559
to talk any baseball, but I
prefer to not talk baseball with a Yankees

788
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:12.480
guy anyway. So what do you
think real quick? Yankees World Series?

789
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:15.719
No, yes, they're already got
injuries that are gonna kill him. Well,

790
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:19.320
I got one Sodo on my on
my fantasy baseball scene. I can't

791
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:21.679
wait to see what he does,
as long as he doesn't do it against

792
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:23.719
the Dodgers. And a lease.
Thanks for being here today, Coo.

793
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:29.039
It's always a pleasure. Take care
of yourself. Yeah, nice job on

794
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:31.079
the on the breaking news. All
right, we'll be back tomorrow. I

795
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:35.519
already said we've got a loaded group
and then we're off on Thursday. So

796
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:37.440
give us a call tomorrow with your
thoughts on the Arizona Sweet sixteen. So

797
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:38.519
talk to you tomorrow