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fourteen fifty from Steve Roberta, He's Jiggensauce

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Dotter, Guy Henry, and today
welcome to Monday. I hope your weekend

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was better than mine. I was
gonna say, wow, you know,

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I mean, yeah, you got
you got beat up yesterday. Right.

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The storm was that Hurricane Eldi Elda. I don't think so. It was

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just to be I want. I'm
not gonna say a basic Tucson monsoon.

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But it was just one of our
monsoons. It just came through here and

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blasted us. Although you know I'm
on the east side, you're on the

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northwest. You reigned in my place, but we didn't get anything like what

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we've seen across town. I was
driving right before, about half hour before

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the storm. That's gonna be a
big one, and it got dark and

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it's just, oh, it's good
to be a big one. Yeah,

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And it was a big one,
right, it was you know, you've

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seen pictures all over the place.
You've seen parts of buildings knocked down,

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a gas station torn up. Anybody
have a place like to stay. Yeah

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it was that bad. But yeah, trees all over the place. And

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then you know it's midtown, right, there's a lot of stuff by the

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U of a stuff up on the
northwest side along the freeway, all over

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the place. And like I said, I'm a Sabino Canyon Tanka Berdie.

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So it just it skirted us.
It got us the rain, but it

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didn't get us anything else. Well, last week you talked about your storm

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that was bad, and I said, no, we didn't get any Yeah,

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yeah, no we did. Yeah
that was on what Thursday, Thursday,

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and it was it was bad,
but it was just it was that

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would also was just rain. It
wasn't you know, howling winds and stuff

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like that. So it was so
I didn't you know, it didn't get

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any of that. I got to
turn off my sprinkler so I don't have

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to water the lawn for a couple
of days. But other than that,

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you know, we were fine.
Well, feel bad for you guys.

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Yeah, it was bad all over
the place. Okay, so let's move

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on to the sports. A lot
of things going on, drafts news.

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You'll have breaking news. We'll say
that for breaking news. Yeah sure,

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so we have hen But how many
guys so far? Three? Okay,

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I know of the two, so
all right, we'll get the third.

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Yeah, there's the draft, Steve. I sat down and watched an entire

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soccer match, which hard to finish. Which one the Coppa last night?

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What if? What if? He
was a great? The one in Miami?

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It was a great We sat there
and waited for it to start,

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right, it was a disaster,
the whole you know, the getting into

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the getting into the stadium and all
that. You know, waited for the

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thing to start and then But so
I sat through that, you know,

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with my family. I may have
sat through a World Cup final, but

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maybe a handful. I just don't
sit down and watch the soccer. Actually

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nothing you know, I'm one of
those guys, well nothing ever happens.

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But even though you know, it
got into the it got into extra time

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and it was zero zero, A
lot was happening. They just didn't score.

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You had the whole the drama with
with Lionel Messi and and his foot

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and he was bawling on the sidelines
because he was out and it might be

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his last match. And then they
showed his his ankle and it was like

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a big old balloon. There was
a lot of that stuff, and it

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was I mean, I was excited
by it, and you know, you

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know, it was fun. I
had fun watching that. It was my

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It's kind of like my experience with
hockey. Uh the last just a month

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or show. Going over these game
six games in the final three minutes was

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like, holy yeah. They were
attacking and attacking, they couldn't score well.

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And and I actually watched the tail
end of the the Euro match because

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but only because I only saw part
of it because I was watching the Dodgers

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crap on themselves in for the second
day in a row. And I'm not

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gonna let Bill listener, Bill,
I'm not going to satisfy him. He

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thinks I'm going for fifteen minutes.
I'll just say Dodgers crapped on themselves two

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games in a row. The crap
way to go into the All Star break.

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But it's over. But coming out
of that, I did switch it

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to that soccer match in time to
see Spain score the winning goal and that

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was very cool. So you know, I mean I watched a bunch of

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soccer yesterday. You created this storm, then I started show the storm.

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Yeah, it was all on me. He'll have the three ory like Jay

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watching soccer. Yeah. So now
so I'm kind of sad here because it's

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that Monday of the All Star break
and there's there's nothing to watch. There's

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nothing to pay it tend to do. Worst of all, there's nothing to

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gamble on except for the home run
derby, and I don't think I want

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to do that. Yeah, that's
when does that start? Five o'clock?

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Five o'clock? Well, okay,
that's It's like nothing murder this year to

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me. Yeah, I mean,
who are the guys right? Show hay?

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Even summer league Summer League. I
watched a little of it. I'm

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not too excited about that. I
saw the Berench guys play each other a

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little. In fact, we're gonna
have some Summer league Summer league guy here

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about ten minutes right. Uh.
His name is Kevin from the He covers

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Stafford. He's the playboy played by
play guy for Stanford Women. Okay for

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Stanford Women. He also does also
just played by play for the Warriors G

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League team right right, or the
NBA TV. Yeah, he does all

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that stuff. So we'll ask him
on the air. Uh So he saw

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I know, I saw talked to
him last week. He saw the Miami

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guys, uh, pele and uh
and key shot, So I wanted to

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get his thoughts. I think he
may may have seen him more than once.

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Yeah, because because both the key
shots, Like he's not so much

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lighting it up, but he's playing
very well. Yeah, he's doing the

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stuff that we saw, right,
and everybody's freaking out. Well where where

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you been while he was in Arizona? Yeah, just you didn't stay up

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late enough to watch him. So
there you go. So that'll be good

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just to get an update. What
else well, and then we're gonna keep

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keep working away around the Big twelve. And we've got Tim Everson. He's

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the sports editor for the Manhattan Mercury, which is the hometown paper for for

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Kansas State. I never even heard
that paper, Manhattan Mercury, college town,

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right, yeah, college paper,
you know. Uh So he's he's

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a sports editor and the beat writer
for Kansas State. So we'll talk to

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him about you know, as you
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know, their impressions of the team's
coming in. Uh, what we can

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expect to see when are's on the
place Kansas State because that's loving as a

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as a pretty important game for both
teams from a college football playoffs standpoint.

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And so we'll we'll pick his brain
about Kansas State and what we can expect.

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I think they're picked to finish second. Yeah, yeah, so we'll

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see what he's what he's got.
So again we're gonna be making our way

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around talking to various people out of
the uh, out of the big twelve

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we got, we had Graham Rosini. If you haven't heard the the conversation

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we had with him on Friday,
should go and check out the podcast for

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that very Uh. He was a
pleasant guy. I liked him. Yeah,

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you know, smart guy. Liked
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kind of very straight forward. I
Doug Tamaro, there are media relations guy.

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You know, I exchanged some text
messages with him. He just said

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he's a good dude, and he
sure sounded like you. Yeah. So

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he wasn't a short shoppers segulation.
I mean, I don't like him anymore

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than they did before, but he
seemed like a good guy. So there's

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that. So he's not that good
of a salesman. Well, you know,

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look, nothing's ever gonna make me. I mean, I look I

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like Doug and you know, but
the school in general, I still still

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one of these days, you'll be
at your death bed saying I forgive him,

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No, no, no, freak
absolutely not. Don't even think it.

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I don't even think it. Please, I would never here's my apology

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to that. Never tarnish my life
with that, and that chucks. He

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still run so anyway, So so
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talk to to Tam and see you
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and uh, you know, their
thoughts going into the into the football,

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into the football. Okay, cool, Henry you okay, your your folks

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leave from hell today yesterday? Yes, yeah, so their impression of two

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son is just a hot place.
Yeah, why did you come to school

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here? Did you see the temperature
drop? It dropped like forty degrees or

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thirty thirty some degrees. It dropped
from mid you know, almost one hundred

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and ten down to like seventy four
seventy four and sticky as hell. Yeah,

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especially inside the house. Okay,
cool, what else is going on?

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Anybody calls, so you want to
call us later five two o four

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one six seventy four forty would love
to hear from you. They just see

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it's SEC Media Week, four days
of media days in the SEC. Well

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live here, they have egos feet. I saw some of the stuff on

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the ESPN. Uh some of the
coaches being then interview. There was a

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there was a funny post. I
think it was I don't know if it's

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Pat forty. Somebody posted it that
Nick saban On in an interview, must

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have been on ESPN or something said
that he's never obviously never been to SEC

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media days as a member of the
media, and that he got to he

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got to media Days and they wouldn't
let him in because he didn't have his

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credential. He had to go back
to his hotel and get his credential so

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he could get into media Day.
That's funny because I've told you that story

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about lout right. Yeah, yeah, they wouldn't. You know, you're

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just one of us now, dude. So he had to have to rite

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or go get his ID from the
office from the hotel and he sat in

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the stands watching his t practice.
It was like that Yeao commercial, Yo

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yo yo, try to buy.
Yeah, he was just obviously seven point

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four. Yeah, yeah, I
don't care. So we'll be seeing some

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stuff coming out of SEC media days. You know, they're talking about them

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having four or five teams in the
playoffs, in the playoffs and all that

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stuff, you know, all kinds
of things. So you know saying that,

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well, you know, and the
Big twelve and the a CC will

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each be lucky to get to you
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the two conferences, I'll have three
teams or something like that. So well,

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but that's why a game like the
Kansas State game becomes important. Right.

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You know, you're gonna you're probably
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out of the Big Twelve, no
more than two losses to get into the

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to get into the in the playoff, because they're gonna take a three loss

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SEC team over a two loss Big
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you know, you're you're gonna have
to You're gonna have to be in that

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kind of position, so that that
game becomes very important because it's a non

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conference game. Uh, and so
you know the winner of that game is

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in a good spot because both both
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o. Whichever team wins that game, it's probably three and all after that

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game. Yeah, yeah, so
we'll see. It'll be good to talk

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to what's his name again, Tim
Everson, Tim Tims okay cool cool or

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Everson? I think it's Everson.
Yeah, we'll get that name locked up

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by the time you teach them.
Okay, anything else. So you went

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golfing? Nice? I did.
I golfed a Saturday afternoon. It was

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horrible. Uh, we got went
over teares on the National It was it

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was wide open for the front nine
and then we got to the back nine

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and it backed up. We played
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half. We played the back nine
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you know, it was hot,
but there was like a breeze blowing

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all day, and not like a
hot breeze, you know, sometimes it's

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so hot that the breeze just makes
it worse. It was actually a cooling

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breathe and it was it was nice
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fun. Didn't get overheated, didn't
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and had a nice dinner with some
friends on Saturday night, and uh,

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and it was it was good.
I wasn't like spent, right, you

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know, I get home from one
of those hot days at the golf course

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and I just don't have I can't
do anything rest of the day, well

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especially under the seat. Yeah,
but it was it was fine. And

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uh we shot the same as I
always shoot, So didn't that didn't change

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at all? Okay? Uh anything
else, Henry, nothing, any observations.

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No, you didn't jump out of
a plane over the weekend, did

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you, like? Want? No? What the hell are you talking to?

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Are more stable? Like they put
their life in their hands when they

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live in New York just by itself. You're manheat are you from? Where

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are you from? You? But
I'm not how you we're at. We're

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at in district? Where where do
you? Where do you did you or

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do you live Upper west Side or
Central Park? Compared to that? Yeah,

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that's why I like, what give
me a number? Oh that's okay,

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Mickey mantles in that area, you
know what I'm talking about. That's

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right, that's right, stats from
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Okay, yes, yeah, okay, I didn't want in sixty third.

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But I used to live going there. I only know that because I stayed

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the Empire Hotel. You know that, Okay, I stayed there for three

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weeks one time for utility you like
I do. I wouldn't live there,

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But I mean nothing against New York. It's just not my kind of place.

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I like having a yard and all
that stuff. But I did like

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going there. I've enjoyed. I
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In the three weeks I spent there, I mean I got I became

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one of you guys, what more
mean and grumpy? Yeah, way more

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mean and grumpy, faster faster,
walker, handshoved in the pockets, looking

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was like, what the hell is
wrong with you? Well, are you

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talking about what you want? A
piece of mettle? It's I think it's

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a very cool place. You know. I enjoyed it. Every time I

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went there, I had a great
time. To me. To me,

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it's like Vegas. You don't I
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often, get in and get out. Too big for me. My son

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I just know, I don't think.

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More power to you, Henry,
good luck to you, excellent tropolis.

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Except for that three week time,
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or four days. Yeah, so
I like it. I enjoyed that.

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Okay, take a break. Hey, get a hold of mister Kevin Dana.

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fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back
to woin the Ball Hero Fox Sports fourteen

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fifty on Steve, he's Jay there, Henry with us. We don't have

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our guet Kevin yet for so win
keeping design the ball. I guess I

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hope he's not doing a gay but's
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Well he was doing it in nortow
he might not be doing it.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that
makes sense. Okay, Yeah, we'll

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see what happens. So I just
texted him to give us a quick call.

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Uh, it's a little late,
Okay, I'm looking forward to that.

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You said Miami's playing right now,
right, yep, yep, it's

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uh I think twelve eleven. I
just saw a minute ago. Neither keyshod

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Nor nor Pallet was in the game
a second. Ope, but they've gone

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to a TV timeout. So we'll
see when we come back that your guy,

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your your homiees playing. Yeah,
iimy Hawkins. I'm I'm a little

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surprised with Uh. Henry and I
were just talking about Hawkins was a starter

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from Miami last year. But yeah, he is a second year player,

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right, so he qualifies to play
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So I'm gonna take your word for
that. Oh, he just sent

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me a note he thought he thought
tomorrow. Oh he's fine, he's he's

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okay, give us a quick call, all right. Anyway, So yeah,

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Hockey's is playing for them, So
okay, here we go. Kevin

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is a shoe. Yeah, This
is Kevin. Hi, thanks for calling,

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in which how do you say your
last name? Kevin Dana? Yeah,

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sorry about I read the message today
and thought you were calling about tomorrow,

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but I can definitely do right now. Okay, No, no,

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we're on the air. Thanks for
joining us. In fact, we're just

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talking about the Miami game. They're
on they're plane and you've seen them at

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least once. How many times have
you seen them? Yeah? So I've

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seen the Miami Heat play three games. I saw all their games in the

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Cali Classic. Guy, I actually
just stepped out of the gym that they're

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playing at right now against Oklahoma City
here in Las Vegas. Okay, great,

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great, So that's why we want
to have you on. What were

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your impressions on both Arizona players.
Yeah, so a key shot Johnson was

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really really impressive, and I mean
they got a steal that he went undrafted.

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I mean I looked at five different
uh you know, mock drafts the

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day of the draft, and he
was you know, squarely like low mid

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forties, even high thirties. So
the fact that he went on drafted,

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that they could get him on a
two way in Miami is a steal.

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He was fantastic, especially the third
game that he played. Uh it was

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against the Lakers. He had like
twenty something point. We interviewed him after

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the game. I mean, he
had fifty family members there because you know,

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at the Cali Classic, his family's
from the Bay Area. He was

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really good. I believe Pela Larson
only played two of the three games at

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the California Classic. He had kind
of a rough shooting start, but I

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mean he he played really good at
the start of the second game. And

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look, I'm not worried about whether
a guy makes or missus shots. I

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know Pela Larson can hit jumpers and
that kind of thing. He's an athletic

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player, and I think that was
a pretty good pick for Miami in the

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middle of the second round. So
let's start with key Shot. How are

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they using him? I mean,
he's he's six six, he's the same

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height as Kimi hawk Is. He
can't shoot like himI hawkas So how are

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they using key Shot? Is he
at the three or the four? Yeah?

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I mean, you know today it's
all it's you know, kind of

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position. Listen. I can't quite
remember if he was at the three or

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the four, but I mean he
did have the ball in his hands a

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little bit, he was cutting well. I mean he was a defensive test

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a big time and just his athleticism, just his athleticism and how hard he

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played really stood out. And it
just seems like such a good fit for

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Miami for you know, they talk
about heat culture over there. He seems

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like a heat culture kind of guy. Interesting, Yeah, yeah, no

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question you. I'm sure you had
seen them before, hadn't you. You

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you operate out of northern Northern cal
right, Yeah, I do operate out

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of Northern California. Now I had
you know, I remember key Shots from

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the San Diego State Final four run
a little bit. But honestly, I

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mean most of my work is in
the G League, the NBA, NCAA

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women's basketball. It is rare.
Unfortunately, I don't get a ton of

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a chance to watch men's college basketball
right now. So I've seen Arizona bits

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and pieces here and there when they
play my Stanford Cardinal and that kind of

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thing. But I didn't have a
huge base of a key Shot Johnson knowledge

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or Pella Larson knowledge, Like I
knew who they were just because you know,

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you hear their names around the pack
twelve but I can't say like I

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knew their games all that. Well, okay makes sense, Yeah, that

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makes makes total sense. So just
some of your general thoughts on the value

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of the summer leagues. You know, I mean, look, anytime you

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guys are playing, they're hopefully getting
better. But you know, what are

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the what are the the what's the
management looking for when they see their guys

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playing, because they're not playing against
you know, NBA starters and stuff,

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So you have to be like,
you have to stand out by a lot

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for them to say, okay,
this guy might make it. You know

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what, what are they trying to
achieve? What are the players trying to

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achieve? Yeah, I mean,
well, I think what the players are

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trying to achieve and what the coaches
are trying to achieve sometimes are at odds

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a little bit because I think some
guys come into summer league just looking to

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try to score forty points. And
you know, to your point, Steve,

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they're not playing against NBA starters and
most of the guys that you know

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that NBA teams have locked on contracts. They have those guys who can score

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four points in an NBA game,
and they're not necessarily looking for that,

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but they I mean, I think
like what they want to be looking for

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is do guys play the right way? Do they know how to fit a

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role that could be translatable to the
next level. Do they know how to

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be a spot up three point shooter? Do they know how to get back

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and transition on defense? Do they
know how to do those kind of things

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that contribute to winning. They don't
necessarily want to see a guy dominate a

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ball. Now, maybe if it's
a lottery pick, they're trying of us

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in that way, sure, but
for these other guys who are on two

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way contracts or who are just undrafted
free agents, unless you really get it

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going and it's within the flow of
the offense, they're not necessarily looking for

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someone who's going to be dropping forty
for you. So you cover the G

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League as well, So I'm curious
when you see these guys in the G

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League, and you've seen a lot
of them obviously, and they're really good,

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does it even surprise you that they're
not in the league because the league

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is exclusive. Man, you've got
to be really good. And now nowadays,

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even if you follow basketball like US
college basketball, there's a lot of

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names we don't wrecky nice. Yeah, I mean, honestly, Steve,

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at this point, I've seen so
many really good players in the G League

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ever play in the NBA that it's
just the numbers game. Right. There

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are five hundred and i'm one hundred
and forty roster spots thirty times eighteen if

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you include the two A contract.
There are well more than five hundred and

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forty players who can play in the
NBA who have NBA talent, and at

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some level, you just need to
have one team to like you, whether

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you know, it's something you do
in one game that really attracts the team

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to you, or the way you
carry yourself. It could come down to

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the little things about bench demeanor or
you know, how how you interact with

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teammates. That kind of intel can
make or break a career for a guy

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on the fringes of the NBA,
or whether he has to go play in

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Europe or some other league abroad.
So it's those kind of things, because

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there are so many good players who
can score twenty points in an NBA game,

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but there's only one basketball and so
it's about finding what else you can

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do to help the team win.
Okay, so you know this question is

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coming. Bronnie James. Yeah,
okay, you see because I enjoy talking

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about Bronnie James. All Right,
if I told you, Steve that a

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guy had a plus six wings fan, had a forty and a half inch

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vertical with a consensus top thirty recruit
who went five of eight from three in

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the McDonald's All American Game, scored
thirteen points in an NBA combine game.

408
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Does that sound like a draft pick
to you? The way you say it

409
00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:40.000
convincing me? Yes, all right, exactly so like to me, he

410
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:42.680
has the profile of a guy who
could be drafted late in the second round,

411
00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:47.720
and he went late in the second
round. Now, yes, nepotism,

412
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:51.119
sure that the four year, seven
point nine million dollars deal. He

413
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.319
probably doesn't get that. If his
dad isn't Lebron James and shirt, maybe

414
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:57.920
he doesn't get drafted. But I
don't think it was crazy that that Bronnie

415
00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:03.480
got drafted when he was a four
to five star recruit, a McDonald's All

416
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:10.559
American who's coming off a cardiac arrest
thing that really messed up his freshman season.

417
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:14.680
Now I am a lebron apologist,
I will own that. But Steve,

418
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:18.680
I don't think it's crazy that this
guy got drafted. We're not talking

419
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:22.880
about Manny pakiaw playing professional basketball in
the Philippines like he used to do because

420
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:27.000
he ran the country. Basically,
Like, this is a legitimate draft prospect.

421
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:32.640
And yeah, it helps that his
dad is Lebron James, but like

422
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:37.440
he has the profile of someone who
could potentially play in the NBA. So

423
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:40.359
I don't think it was crazy that
he went late in the second round personally,

424
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:42.200
So Kevin, just real quick,
I'm with my partner Jacon Zaliz here

425
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:47.240
too. So that's that was his
question. He comes up with crazy questions.

426
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:49.359
Yeah, but Kevin, you also
didn't bring up his stats from USC

427
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:52.200
So there's a little hit. There's
that, Okay, all right, so

428
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:56.960
hey, you guys love TAC twelve
basketball. Peyton Watson averaged three point three

429
00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:00.039
points and two point nine rebounds per
game his freshman year at UCLA and went

430
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.720
in the first round. Like,
it's not always about stats, Angewin Davison's

431
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:08.640
second leading all time scorer in NBA
history minus three points behind Pete Maravich and

432
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.880
didn't get drafted. It's more than
just the four point eight points in a

433
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:15.240
game. Kevin. Let me tell
you, I totally agree with you,

434
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.000
because I'm one of those advocates if
you were good enough, teams will find

435
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:22.480
your numbers don't mean anything, right, And I guess I needed to ask

436
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:27.480
this is Jay Has he looked like
an NBA level player though this summer?

437
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:32.480
That's the question, really, So
here here's my answer. I think he

438
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:36.480
has looked like a summer league level
player, which is what most late second

439
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:40.480
round draft picks look like. I
think he knows how to play basketball at

440
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:44.480
a reasonably high level. He hasn't
shot it well, but I've seen plenty

441
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:48.200
of people not shoot it well.
Brandon Pajemski last year in Sudder League shot

442
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:52.279
twenty five percent from three and thirty
three percent from the field. Like he

443
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.279
did not shoot it well, but
he went on to have a first team

444
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:59.519
All Rookie season. Now, I
think Lebron James Junior is a fringe NBA

445
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:03.759
player, which is exactly what this
number fifty five overall pick is supposed to

446
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.680
be. So I like, I
think he might have a future in the

447
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.079
NBA. He might not, but
a lot of people who are drafted fifty

448
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:15.119
fifth overall sort of have an NBA
future. And sort of don't. Right,

449
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:21.240
So do you think just obviously Pelly
has signed his contract, key Shot

450
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:23.440
his two way, and I believe
that they did that for a reason.

451
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:27.480
Obviously play up. Do you think
they'll stick in the NBA. I think

452
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:30.680
key Shots will stick in the NBA. I think he has the right I

453
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.880
mean, I know it's way too
early to say something like that, but

454
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.720
he just has the right attitude about
him. He plays hard. The three

455
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.160
doesn't look broke, and I think
that will something that will be refined.

456
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:47.480
And Pella Larson has like a certifiable
skill at the NBA level. I do

457
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:51.519
like as of now, I kind
of like key SHOT's NBA future a little

458
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:56.599
more, but that could definitely change. Yeah, right, other guys around

459
00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.079
around the PAC twelve who you recognized, remember, anybody else will stood out

460
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:04.319
there? Maybe nobody's talking about it, right, we're not thinking about huh.

461
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:07.559
Yeah, I'm sorry you said from
the pack swell well, from the

462
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.799
PAC twelve or anybody you know?
All right, Well, I'm going to

463
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.880
do a Jalen Tyson game on Wednesday
when the Warriors play the Cavaliers, so

464
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:21.119
I'll see what Jalen Tyson looks like
on an NBA floor. I'm curious to

465
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:26.920
that. I liked his work at
CAL. I saw fardas Amac, another

466
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:30.319
cow guy. He was with the
Sacramento Kings in summer league. He's a

467
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.559
great rebounder. He needs to learn
how to finish around the basket better.

468
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.000
I think that's a serious concern for
fard Oz. I'm rooting for him,

469
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:41.160
but I think he really needs to
get that figured out. Otherwise, if

470
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:48.319
he can't do that against NBA sort
of athleticism, his his career might be

471
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.200
better suited for overseas. So though
those are the first two names that come

472
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.680
to my mind, I'm racking my
head for some other pack twelve guys that

473
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.599
I saw. Josh Tristopher, he's
on the Miami Heat summer League team.

474
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.359
That this guy who was the first
round pick just three years ago. He's

475
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.480
trying to work his way back in
the NBA. He certainly has the athleticism

476
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.920
to get back there. They I
talked with the guy with with a person

477
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.400
around the Miami Heat. They seem
to like him in this summer league.

478
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:18.680
So yeah, those are some of
the names that are coming to my mind

479
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:23.279
right now. I haven't seen Cody
Williams yet. For the Utah Jazz so

480
00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:26.400
that Unfortunately I haven't had a chance
to watch him play. But those are

481
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:29.640
the names that are coming to my
mind right now. Who have a couple

482
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:32.519
of minutes left. Let me ask
you, I think you do the women's

483
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:36.200
Stamford team too, right you are
you? Yep? So tell me what's

484
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:40.839
what's the not fallout but your thoughts
on Tara leaving and then the replacement?

485
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:45.480
Now, yeah, you know,
Kate pay is the perfect person's takeover the

486
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:49.119
program. Maybe she played for Tar
for four years. She has been an

487
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:55.240
assistant coach for seventeen years. She
knows the program inside out. That the

488
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:59.559
staff, It's been a pretty seamless
transition. Everyone's very familiar with Kate.

489
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.599
They just had to hire one extra
assistant coach. I believe she came from

490
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:06.799
Notre Dame. I haven't met her
yet, but the rave reviews about her.

491
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.359
Look. I've known Kate for ever
since her first year as an assistant

492
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:15.079
at Stanford. She's a great fit
for the program. She she gets it.

493
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:16.559
She knows what it's all about.
She knows what it what it means

494
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:21.680
to be a Stanford student. Uh
and that's a big part there there at

495
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.559
Stanford to get that aspect of it. She has been great to me.

496
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:29.359
I'm a big fan of her,
and look, losing keiky Uri often really

497
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:32.519
hurt her being at USC. That
USC is going to have a chance to

498
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:37.880
win a national championship this year,
So that's gonna that's gonna be tough.

499
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:43.519
The adjustment to having conference games three
thousand miles away is going to be tough

500
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:49.079
playing in the ACCU. But look
there there might be you know, that's

501
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.720
gonna be an adjustment. But I
don't expect a Steve drop off. I

502
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:58.200
expect Kate pay to keep this thing
rolling as best as possible. But what's

503
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:01.799
the buzz around the yeah, fleg
department about all of this? And you

504
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:06.160
know, I mean, are people
are they talking about and dreading the travel?

505
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:07.960
Are they just saying, look,
it is what it is, let's

506
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.359
go. I mean, what's the
feeling about about that? Because that's that's

507
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:15.759
as dramatic a change as there is
any of the t I mean, I

508
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:19.519
can tell you the women's basketball staff
is excited to see these new places in

509
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.839
the ACCU. Personally, Like,
I think it's a shame that the PAC

510
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:27.880
twelve exploded. I'm still very upset
about it. But I know that Stanford

511
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:30.640
and count did the best that they
can do by moving to the ACC.

512
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:34.720
And so look, it's gonna be
cool to see like Virginia Tech for the

513
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:37.440
first time, for Florida stay for
the first time. We'll see how long

514
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:42.039
Florida stay last in the ACC and
Clemson and before you know, there's that

515
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.680
whole thing going with the conference of
them trying to leave. But but yeah,

516
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:50.880
there's the excitement of seeing new places. There's the reality of man,

517
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.240
you got to play so many games
so far away from home. Well,

518
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:57.799
we'll see how we feel about this
in a couple of years. But I

519
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.480
think Stanford and Colt did the best
they could do with what they had.

520
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:04.160
And lastly, we got just one
of one minute left your thoughts on Arizona's

521
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:07.599
idea, Barnes and the program and
it so badly wants to get to that

522
00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:12.480
top of that league. Now it's
got a new league. Yeah, well,

523
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:16.320
I mean I went to you know, I remember when Arizona women's basketball

524
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:20.119
did not have a lot of people
at those games, so Stamford was comfortably

525
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:23.039
beating them by thirty or forty Ada
Barnes turned that thing around. I mean,

526
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:29.159
they were an Aarry McDonald three away
from winning the national championship. She

527
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:31.480
has done a hell of a job
with that program. Basically, from the

528
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:37.559
time Shantonese Folk died until like twenty
nineteen, they were a complete afterthought in

529
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:44.159
women's basketball. But Ada Barnes really
brought that program back. And look,

530
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.199
Big twelve. You got to deal
with Baylor now, one of the premier

531
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:51.760
programs in women's basketball. That's not
going to be an easy thing to do.

532
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.760
Texas is always going to be an
Elite eight threat. So those are

533
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:58.000
some tough programs they're gonna have to
deal with. But they came from the

534
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.400
best conference and in college basketball,
well, it's a shame that there's going

535
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.440
to be no more packed well women's
basketball because that was the cream of the

536
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:06.960
crop and now we're all over the
play. Yeah, you're right, Well,

537
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.119
Kevin, you're pretty good at this. Maybe you should become part of

538
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:15.280
a professional you know. Hey see, thanks for having me on to talk

539
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.000
James and whatever. Hey, we'll
have you back. Yeah, thanks a

540
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:23.039
bunch, Kevin, all right,
thank you, thank you. He was

541
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:25.880
good. Yeah, he was good
stuff and good stuff. I mean,

542
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.119
guys obviously knows this knows this stuff, right, I mean he dropped stone

543
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.119
Pulse name. I mean okay,
yeah, who reads that? Right,

544
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:35.880
that's almost twenty years ago? Right? Yeah, okay, no good?

545
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:37.960
All right, let's come back and
we talk more about it. All right?

546
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You're Jake, and you're Henry and we

577
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got fourteen minutes left in this first
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578
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to two, four one, six, seventy four forty. It was good

579
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to have Kevin on even dropped like
you said a Shantanese Polk reference. Yeah,

580
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.760
yeah, few would remember that,
and that was a big, big,

581
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:13.719
big part of the history of Arizona
basketball. Yeah, big time women's

582
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.880
basketball, big time. Yeah.
So, Judges, I've had the Miami

583
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:21.320
Heath Summer League game on and Keishad
Johnson is in the game and came on

584
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:28.599
just in time to watch him get
a steal breakaway, and so U it's

585
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:32.239
hard for me to argue with Kevin
or and agree with him whether he has

586
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:39.199
a better NBA career than Pelle.
And I say that only because uh I

587
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:43.239
said this before when I bet apparently
made the bet with Brian. I didn't

588
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.960
think either of them were going to
get drafted or either them would stick in

589
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:50.800
the NBA. They both offer two
different styles, they're they're two completely different

590
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:52.559
guys. And the thing is that
the same height, right, you know,

591
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:58.039
I mean it just didn't seem like
you that that was taller, bigger

592
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.800
because because of the presence, but
he's not that they're both listed at six

593
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:06.599
six as his Imy hawkis, but
yet two completely different players. Pelee is

594
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:08.400
a you know, he's a he's
an outside player. You know he can

595
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:12.480
guard. You know he can guard, uh, you know with the perimeter,

596
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:15.639
the perimeter guys, he's got it. He's got a three point shot.

597
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.559
Key Shot is more you see him
more as an inside guy, a

598
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:22.239
physical guy. Uh can can you
know, hold hold his weight in the

599
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.800
paint and still and depending on the
perimeter, defend on the perimeter a bit,

600
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:30.079
but probably not Pelle would could defend
a point guard. You don't see

601
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:32.519
Key defending the point guard, probably
because he didn't really have to, right,

602
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.960
I don't. I don't know,
because to me, Key Shot is

603
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:39.320
just a he's just he's a he's
a Dennis Rodman guy. Needs to be

604
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:42.880
three inches taller, and he needs
to shoot the ball better. If he

605
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.960
can shoot the ball better, he's
Dennis Rodman to me in a sense that

606
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:50.079
he can go after balls and get
twelve games. Yeah. But but again,

607
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.840
as you know, as as Kevin
said, you know, he looks

608
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.440
like he works hard. Yeah,
well he does hustles, he does,

609
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:59.360
he does. You know, you
do all those little things. They're willing

610
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:01.599
to take those things and say,
well, the other stuff will come along.

611
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:05.760
So you know, again, Solomon
Hill is a you know, is

612
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:08.199
a perfect example of that. TJ. McConnell's an example of that. You

613
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:12.880
do all the all the little stuff, you know, they can you can

614
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.519
get to the big stuff because a
lot of guys don't like to do the

615
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:17.679
little No. No, we talk
about this like the TJ. McConnell's and

616
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:22.159
he said, you got to fit
the system, and especially the system that

617
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.239
you're playing for, right, and
if you're on the end of the bench,

618
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.760
you you're a guy that's happy to
be on the end of the bench.

619
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.559
Those checks still cash, right,
and you're happy to be there and

620
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:34.800
you're gonna do whatever you can to
contribute. Yeah. The funny thing about

621
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:38.199
he's bringing is your Bronny question up? Hey, when he was just don't

622
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:40.840
put a name to the stats,
right, Okay, sounds good. But

623
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:44.840
then if the other side you bring
this name to the stats on the other

624
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:46.800
bad part, Right, do you
think that guy doesn't belong? Yeah,

625
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:50.880
well you could use well you know
this, the stats are good for what

626
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.440
you need them for, right exactly, it'll be interest to see. Let's

627
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:57.719
say Brownie hangs on and key Shot
does not. You're gonna go, wait,

628
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.800
key Shots ten times a player,
Bronne Jane, Yeah, what the

629
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.920
hell's going on there? Yeah,
he's not playing for the for the Lakers,

630
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.440
right, No, that's just kind
of and you know this because and

631
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:12.199
Henry knows this better than both of
us, because you watch his party more

632
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.719
NBA games than I do, and
you do. Uh, there's names on

633
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:19.079
those rosters that we have no idea
who they are. And you didn't hear

634
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:22.320
them in college, and maybe they
played a little for their international pairs,

635
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:28.400
but even the non college don college
big names are on those rosters. You

636
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.159
know what I'm saying, Could you
come up with one right now? And

637
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:36.280
just kind of there's dudes that we
never heard before and they're playing. Yeah,

638
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.199
I'm playing well, playing well.
They just didn't have the opportunity,

639
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:42.960
you know. And I'm not talking
about the kid from Memphis. What's his

640
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.079
name? They got in trouble with
the guns, No, no, no,

641
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:50.079
with Memphis, Memphis. Yeah,
he got in trouble. Half to

642
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.840
half the gear set out Trumman and
he and he played for a small school

643
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:57.119
and we knew when he's come out
after the playoffs, right, but before

644
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.239
that, we didn't know who he
was, right, Uh, and he

645
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:06.760
becomes that guy. Yeah, so
yeah, again, it's as as as

646
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:08.360
Kevin said, and a lot of
people say, you only need one time,

647
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:12.320
one team to like, one team
to like you, and if you're

648
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:16.199
lucky enough to land with that team, then you got a shot. Gab

649
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:22.239
like Gab Gabrielle liked you, and
that's the girl you found. You turn

650
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:27.639
out okay, you just need one
girl like you. You know, we

651
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:30.559
really really really didn't have to go
there, did we. You know,

652
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:35.239
you're just mad because your roof got
blown off. That's all. Every every

653
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:45.320
every pot has you found yours.
It was completely completely unnecessary, just totally

654
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:49.119
no, you're mad. You're mad
because you have no roof at your house.

655
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:52.599
That's all that's what that's about.
You're just crank. Roof is because

656
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:59.280
you're just cranky over there. My
roof is good and shows you're just mad

657
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:01.800
at that. No, I'm just
making it out. I'm still looking for

658
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:06.960
my one. You had one.
No, God, that didn't fit,

659
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:13.400
that goes the wrong lead, glove
don't fit, wrong lead, don't fish.

660
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:16.840
Let's quit. Wow, Wow,
okay, all right, okay,

661
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:21.199
nobody want to call please do five
to four one, six, seventy four

662
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:22.840
forty get us out of this mess. It helps us. We have nine

663
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:27.360
minutes. Uh uh what else?
You know? It's like less than fifty

664
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:31.639
days of football before football start.
Now we're getting there season. It's happening

665
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:36.519
fast, Steve. But uh,
you know we're uh, we're getting there.

666
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:38.119
Man. We're going to talk some
football. Did we did we find

667
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:42.079
out when practice starts? No?
I haven't looked at that. You haven't

668
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.119
said, okay, yeah, okay, because that's we're less than two weeks

669
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.880
away. I'm sure it got to
be July twenty eighthish or twenty ninth ish,

670
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:52.360
If not before that, it's gotta
be sometime soon. But uh,

671
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.880
but we are going to talk some
other some football with Tim Everson from uh

672
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:01.079
He covers football for the Manhattan Mercury, which is the local paper where Kansas

673
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:06.079
State is located. And we'll just
get some thoughts, some thoughts on their

674
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:10.239
Wildcats also, you know, just
you know, welcoming in Arizona to the

675
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:13.400
league. You know. Again,
one of the things I want to ask

676
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:15.760
all these people that we talked to
who were in the Big twelve, what

677
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:22.280
were you thinking about Arizona and ASU
and as they as they were talking about

678
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:24.280
coming in, what was your impression
you thinking this is good? This is

679
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:28.440
bad? They sucked? They don't
suck, you know. Uh was it

680
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:30.039
like, Okay, well we'll take
them because if we don't, you know,

681
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:34.519
our our league is terrible, you
know, with Oklahoma and Texas leaving.

682
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:36.199
I don't know. I just want
to find out, you know,

683
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:40.719
just an outsiders view, what they
think of the of the four schools in

684
00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:46.159
particularly Arizona coming over and sort of
what's the reputation of what's Arizona's reputation with

685
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:51.920
them? That's that's my thoughts.
So anyways, yeah, okay, okay,

686
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:57.039
did did you ever did you ever
play the the that college video game

687
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.119
is out? Did you ever play
that? No? No, I'm a

688
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.599
video game guy, like I said, that's because more we and no,

689
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:06.800
that's right. No, no,
my sons. My sons played soccer,

690
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:08.480
so they played the song. They
played the college football game. No,

691
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:15.239
no, you Henry, No,
surprisingly not. I'm surprised too. It

692
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.880
was more like games. Okay,
that makes sense, that makes sense.

693
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:22.239
Why you ask? Just it came
out today? Okay, So is that

694
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.480
the one they're getting six six thousand
dollars or something like that. Our players

695
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:30.920
getting six thousand dollars, six hundred, six hundred game will raise I guess

696
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:34.920
six Yeah, six hundred dollars they
needed they get if you allow your if

697
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.679
you allow your image to be in
the in the game, you have six

698
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:42.159
hundred bucks and a copy of the
Why wouldn't you write why not free money?

699
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.039
Yeah? I mean because it's you're
either in or you're out. You

700
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:46.079
can say, well, no,
six hundred bucks is not enough. That's

701
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:49.880
say fine. In the game.
Did you see that? What's his name?

702
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:53.360
Arch Manny initially opted out, and
then he said he did a video

703
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:55.679
like a week ago announcing yeah,
and then he said, I mean,

704
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:59.639
okay, yeah, not like you
need some money, right, put me

705
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:01.039
in? Yeah, maybe someone will
play me. But you know, seeing

706
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:05.800
guys like you, the generation right, justin Spears and some of these guys,

707
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:09.000
they're on social media and they're showing
videos of the of the plays from

708
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:13.360
their games and stuff like that.
They're playing it again. I played it

709
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:15.880
a couple of times and it wasn't
any good at it. But my son

710
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:22.159
who's thirty one now, and he
was, you know, a little kid

711
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.639
when it first came out, and
it hasn't been off for eleven years,

712
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:30.840
so he was twenty when they stopped
putting it out. You know, they've

713
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:32.079
been waiting for it, you know, but all his buddy's been waiting for

714
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:36.519
it. Their wives must be very
happy about that. Let's take this call.

715
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.599
Hi, you're on the air and
I on the ball. How's it

716
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:43.719
going today? What's up, Brian? Don't talk to me. I just

717
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.920
to worried about you. I'm fine, thank you. That's me every day,

718
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:50.559
Brian, every day. No,
no, no, this was a

719
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.239
bad weekend for him. Well,
because the Dodgers were not very good.

720
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:58.639
My softball team, my my co
ed softball team could have beat the Dodgers

721
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.239
the last two games. They were
terrible. God. I mean I sat

722
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:06.119
there and I watched that game and
on Saturday, I'm going, Okay,

723
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.800
they're up nine to four, no
big deal, and wait for the next

724
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:15.519
one. Yeah, and yeah,
that was ugly and I was worried.

725
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:19.320
I was really worried about you.
Jay. I was fine. Look,

726
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.360
here's here's why I'm fine, Brian
is because they're so far ahead in the

727
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.440
in the Western Division. Look,
you know, you go through this thing,

728
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:29.320
you get you get it out of
the way and get onto the playoffs

729
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:34.239
and see what happens. But you
know what, I've got no no expectations

730
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:37.760
of them in the playoffs because they're
they don't have the pitching to make it.

731
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:39.440
They don't have the pitching to make
it. You know, all the

732
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:44.519
guys are hurt. So don't you
know, I'm I'm at peace with where

733
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.199
they're headed. You know, maybe
maybe they'll make maybe they don't make some

734
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:50.960
moves. I mean, there's plenty
of time. Yeah, you know,

735
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:53.599
try to find some pitching. I
mean, if they're counting for Kershaw to

736
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:59.000
get back there in trouble, well, Kershaw bureau a bunch of guys,

737
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:05.800
a bunch of Yeah. So every
every team has the same problem. Yeah,

738
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:09.719
exactly. They they hammered they hammered
the Dodgers, So that's what I'm

739
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:12.920
saying. I saw that, and
I'm like, they're not going to beat

740
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:15.239
these guys in the playoffs. So
I'm not worried about it. Yeah,

741
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:21.719
I just I was just worried about
you, you know. You know,

742
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:23.440
but Adam text me and told me
you were fine. You're playing golf.

743
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:27.800
Yeah, we were golfing. We
were golfing on Saturday. And I did

744
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.400
see that mess on yesterday and I
just changed the channel. Hey, this

745
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.599
is how bad it was. I
changed the channel to a soccer match.

746
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:38.840
Oh that's that's pathetic. So there
you go. That that was me.

747
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:45.840
I'm all good. Okay, thanks
all right, Brian, thank you.

748
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:51.159
Okay. So, so did you
see the play that Radugo made yesterday?

749
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.199
Oh you ran in on the ball
and they went over make Yeah, yeah,

750
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:57.719
that was a that was a walk
off, right. Yeah. I

751
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:02.599
also saw the walk off where the
the catcher, the Colorado catcher, threw

752
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:06.719
it while threw it over the picture's
head on a on a throwback, you

753
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:08.119
know, just got about throw it
over his head. There was a runner

754
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:13.519
on thirty scored in the game.
Who teams I think the Colorado I think

755
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:16.239
against Uh might have been Saint Louis, I don't remember, but that they

756
00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:20.719
lost it on that on a bad
throwback to the picture went over, the

757
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:23.480
pictures went over the picture's head and
uh, the run scored from thirty and

758
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:30.159
that was a walkoff. So yeah, I didn't see it that just you

759
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:35.719
know, Steve, it didn't feel
like stuff like that was as regular as

760
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:37.960
it is. It's like the baseball
has gotten worse. Yeah, it's funny

761
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:42.199
because just the fundamental stuff. Well, the thing about it, there's how

762
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.519
how can we say this because it
said less maybe less Homer Before we see

763
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:47.480
these things out because everyone has a
video, and now maybe because all the

764
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:52.360
games were publish or published or whatever, we see it more. Yeah,

765
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:53.480
I don't know, I don't know. You do see a lot more gaffs.

766
00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:58.360
But but all the baseball games have
been on TV for quite a while.

767
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:01.639
I mean, y yeah, the
headline and highlights and stuff. You

768
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:07.920
just seem to see more really bad
like what the Dodgers did yesterday and in

769
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:16.440
that second game, you know,
the who the hell did they play the

770
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:22.960
Tigers? They scored the two winning
runs on bunts. You know, they

771
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.920
had a guy on second. They
were bunning them over the ball. You

772
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:28.840
know, it was a pop flight
bunt. Nobody could get to it.

773
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:34.360
They threw it, and the guy's
up at third, and then the guys

774
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:37.559
ends up at second, so they
bunt again, try to throw the guy

775
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:39.119
out at third and throw it away
and he scores in the winning run score.

776
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:43.480
It was like stupid, It's all
stupid stuff, you know, and

777
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:45.599
and it just seems like there's more
of that, you know. And then

778
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:50.519
the discussion about, uh, you
know, what's the Mendoza line now,

779
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:55.519
right where it used to be two
hundred twenty four was what we used to

780
00:50:55.559 --> 00:51:00.159
call the Mendoza line, and I'll
have to look that up. But now

781
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:05.440
it's it's like every team's got four
guys in their batting order, you know,

782
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:08.039
at it's two hundred, two hundred
batting average. Just called them Mendoza

783
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:14.360
line. And now it's like you
go to you go to a lineup and

784
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:20.760
there's four guys batting under either around
or under two hundred. Right, Well,

785
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.800
who's the guys are considered stars?
Well, even if they're to Kyle

786
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:27.880
Schwerber, you know, he hits
forty homers a year, but he bats

787
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.840
one eighty. Well, but he's
a star. The guy who's the leadoff

788
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:35.039
for the Diamondbacks, he's about two
hundred now, he's about two ten or

789
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:37.519
whatever it was. When I saw
him, he was like one seventy five.

790
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.719
You're your leadoff here. Used to
have to bat three hundred at least

791
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:43.280
to get on base, right,
you had you had to be batting three

792
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.760
hundred. Yeah, and now it's
like it doesn't matter if you can runs,

793
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:49.480
you're good. Jay, I'm a
firm believer, like fundamentals, blah

794
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.880
blah blah. And now they talk
about trajectory and that's just play the game.

795
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:57.000
And maybe I'm too old. Just
hit the damn ball, Just hit

796
00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:01.119
the just hit second. There've been
over three thousand homers this year, and

797
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:05.519
then there've been like twelve thousand strikeouts
or something like that. Yeah, just

798
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:07.960
step to now. No one talks
about the strikeouts exactly. Yeah, okay,

799
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:10.039
all right, Hey, we're at
the top of the hour. Henry,

800
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:14.679
Oh my lord, you too,
I know. And he's going to

801
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:16.559
be back with breaking knees, aren't
you, Henry. He's got it all

802
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:17.480
right, We'll be right back