It's just like the old radio show with the additibility to swear a lot from
a mac of All Trade studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dods jeep
Rams. It's bilified the Bill Moran podcast. Well, hello and welcome on
a weekend. Man. My liver, my kidney, my scleen, all
of it. And I ubered in and I wounded up yelling at an Uber
driver last night because he's across the street. I go, dude, I
gotta get out of here. I got I got frunk people with me.
I gotta go now. He's like, I'm trying to get people out of
my over. The rest supposed to be in this uber. They jumped to
the wrong over. I got a five out of five of my Uber drive.
He goes where, Yeah, he goes where. I said, I
know exactly where you are. I want you to turn left, then I
want you to turn right, turn left again, and I'll be right on
that corner. He goes, Okay, five out of five of my we
were driving. A son of a bit. Stiffed me on the tiptop.
You were driving people last night. That is true. I am, and
I can even hear into my voice and stuff. I'm still recovering, but
yet yeah, I was. You know, we were over at Iron Smoke
last night and we saw a couple of great bands over there, including the
fantastic Tommy Burnette band. I really like chart Well, the YouTube cover band.
They did a great job. And then with Tommy, my son and
I kind of got down in the front and then Tommy said we're gonna do
a song. Let's have a twist contest, and he asked me to come
up on stage and judge the twist because I saw that at the very end
when I was going to back yes. So then I asked Jen Christie,
who I think is just a super talent, and you gotta go find her
music. Somebody had texted me over the weekend going, hey, man,
I listened to the pot and I've been binging Jen Christie music all day.
She's fantastic. I actually took video of her from the bridge that I put
on my Instagram story as we were walking into the music fest last night around
six and then uh so she came up. She and I did the twist
together, and then the rest of the night it was just it was just
a fun, just an ease and a flow to it. And I will
tell you like hanging out with you and Greg Connors and my old friend John
de Tulio and his wife and you know my son, uh Damien, Damian
was there. Damien popped around and and Tommy Brennette or Burnett. I feel
like in his wife Jen, I felt like it was as crowded as it
was. I felt like it was in a very small space. Didn't it
feel like almost And I know this is gonna sound weird. I didn't know
what other word to use. Intimate. It was intimate. It was hip
to hip and mal Conners trying to get a d could not move. No,
it was hip hip there. It was hip hip out on the street.
They had probably a record setting crowd for the Fair Poor Music Festival,
which raises money for Galisano Children's Festalsano Soon with I mean, Glas, okay,
Well, I did get a mess host the COVID, I go,
I don't come on. I went for a run today. It was fine.
I had a blast. I mean, wasn't that fun? But it
felt fun like I didn't feel like it was in a massive, massive crowd.
Ran into that kid, I mean, what are the chants? Everybody
yeah, Stephanie last night and I had I had a blast. It's the
first time I ever been in the Fairport Music Festival, third time I've ever
been in the Fairport. Yeah, it was really and they do a great
job. So that was that was a ton of fun. And if you
didn't go, you should really try to make an attempt to get down to
whenever's happening here. And I'll say this, Uh, east side towns,
you got a problem because Fairport's blowing up. There's more businesses coming into Fairport.
It's becoming a destination for entertainment. And as people said to me last
night, I grew up in Pittsford. They would never do this, and
Pittsford does some nice stuff. The uh they've taken the regatta on the canal
and turned it into Poor and Paddle, which is a pretty fun on weekend
and you go and there's beers and all this stuff, but it doesn't have
the same vibe as here, and it doesn't have the same venues and you
can walk up and down the street. It's safe. It's a lot of
entertainment and it's like that most nights of the week in the summer, Like
we leave this studio sometimes you know, late and there's yeah, yes,
yes, and that's it's it's wonderful. I think that's just great for the
local economy, but also the local latitude. It just makes you feel like
you live in a vibrant area. While I was down at Windjammers and in
Charlotte on Friday night and I'm just outside looking around, and I'm like,
why don't we have like a boardwalk, like an Ocean City boardwalk or Wildwood,
New Jersey. I don't know where we would actually put it down there,
but yeah, you're right, I mean that would something like that.
I mean, yeah, we only get but you think Wildwood, New Jersey
only has three four months of summer week, we have just as much as
they do. The guy that we were hanging out with last night, it's
one sitting on the radio. We're the only town with a lake, a
canal and a river and we can't figure it out, right, you know,
we have a lake, a canal, and the river and the canal
and we can't figure out the canal. On the west end. The east
side starting to figure it out. They're starting to figure it out. I
think Spence Report has a nice where they do I think that canal. I
think it's very pretty Lockport Rockport. Yeah, but you're right, there isn't
this uh and this isn't centered around the canal. It's centered around but it
just adds to that ambiance when you stood when I stood on the bridge and
looked over and saw a sea of people, you know, and they put
out sod in that one parking lot. So year it's not like you're sitting
in the parking lot and people brought their launch chairs and the boats are up
and I go, man, that's fucking cool right there, that's fucking cool.
So that that is uh pretty awesome. But yeah, I was,
and then I end up. So it was so crowded that you couldn't get
signals, like all of a sudden, at one point, enough people must
have left the area last night that my phone went ding ding ding ding ding
ding ding, like all these text messages that were sent to me that didn't
arrive. So I wasn't getting messages. And I have Verizon, my son
has at and T he was working. Yeah, Greg and his friend were
trying to call you and yeah, Johnny and on the way in and I'm
the only one that's got the phone, it works, and I have spectrum
which works off for Verizon towers, which so that was odd to me that
I was working unless it's less people on the spectrum, you know, understand
what I'm saying, Like so many people use Verizon that it was clocked.
I don't. I don't know. Verizon has priority on their towers, and
then whoever's working off of them, it just would be the same thing.
I should have been the one off and they should have been the one on.
So well whatever. So then but I'm back. I wind up back
with Damien and we're getting yelled at by this lady that you can't go up
front. So we're hanging backstage at one of the stages and all of a
sudden, here comes Kevin and Greg from backstage and like what and Kevin goes,
no, you just gotta act like you know what you're doing. I
say that all the time. I got padded down. Yeah, almost arrested,
and I'm like, yeah, I just walked right there. I just
walked, and I've walked right past you. I walked and saw somebody outside.
Knew I wanted to show that I actually have friends. Yeah, a
couple of people I saw it last night that I was like, oh,
I haven't seen you in forever. So that was but it was a great,
great time and good night, and it was fun hanging out with my
son and all you guys and your son was a trip last night. He
was an absolute trip. I don't, I don't. I don't even want
to know. I don't even want to know. Did he make it to
eight am this morning and starting, yeah, yeah, good? His All
of a sudden, at five thirty this morning, I'm hearing a ruga ruga
feel him. No, it's so kind of fucking alarm that sounds like a
nuclear clock. And I go out. I go, Jordan, it's five
thirty. Huh, turn it off. It's five thirty. And then he
gets so then he's like oh, and then it's seven fifteen. I go,
buddy, I gotta get moving, I know. And he peeled himself
off the couch. I gave him some water. I offered him coffee.
He didn't want it. He said he was gonna stop and get something,
and then he called me, I gotta heavy. Around twelve thirty, he
goes, yeah, job's done, We're packed up. He goes, uh,
I don't know if they wanted me to go out and do a gig
at r it. He goes, I'm waiting on that call, and that
was it. I wish I still had the ability to to do that.
I mean I for the most part, ken Yeah, hit it hard at
night and I'm up the next morning ready to go. But later in that
day is where I kind of I missed the colleges where you go out and
hit it hard all night, wake up and roll in the class. That
is something we're gonna check in with our friend Raised and Randy. But and
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that up because Justin Hares won the championship at Land of Legends. Oh is
that backed the back that he would last year? Ten? Think so?
So we'll Randy'll tell us. We'll check in with Rays and Randy but Race
and Randy Man Ryan Priest in NASCAR, And I'm telling you when we play
the audio, they say this car flipped ten times. I was with Kevin.
I counted in slow motion. I think this thing barret rolls in the
air six times before it hits the ground, bounces back up and goes probably
I think it was twelve. I think it went over. I think it
barret rolled twelve times, and dude just got it walked away. It's amazing
what they've done with the technology with these cars. It's and it was just
like we asked that the Doug dan venton how would you get on a plane
after that? How would you get back into the car after that? Yeah,
we'll ask stage freight when I just hit something. Uh, hello,
Rays and Randy, we are on the podcast, sir, Hey guys,
how you doing. We're doing pretty well. We were just talking about the
Ryan is it Priest. Is that how you say his name? Yes,
Ryan Priest. So Ryan Priest is thirty two years old. And we played
the audio and it said that he barre rolled. They go at ten times.
I counted it, Randy, and slow motion, it looked like he
went over twelve times in some of it all at once in the air.
I think it just did six times before it came back to earth. But
that was amazing. And then he tweeted two hours after the race, if
you want to be a race car driver, you better be tough. I'm
coming back. Oh yeah, he's he's been a released from the hospital.
He's released from the hospital this morning and he's already flown flown on back to
North Carolina. So yeah, that was a hell of an accident. Let
me tell you. I mean, you haven't seen stuff like that in a
long time. You've seen it at Daytona, but you haven't seen a car
flip like that. There's a new gent, next generation car flop. I
mean, none of them cards a flip like that. He what was he
truck? What I'd be treated? Well? I gotta think you there,
maybe there's got to be some kind of concussion. There's no way your brain
isn't getting tossed around because he Well, let me just play a little bit
of this audio, Randy, and and we'll just hear someone what the h
the announcers were saying so fast had been right when a guy in the grass.
Soon that's when it started to lift. And then this is just violence.
I mean, look at this car and they're just showing a roll and
roll and rolls. Yes, it's just amazing. If something that weighs over
thirty five hundred pounds, does it weigh thirty five hundred pounds? Randy?
The car it looks like a toy car flying through the air. Hundred sounds
good? Yeah, because I'm going I know that they build these things to
be lighter, and they're mostly fiberglass, right, the frames violets, not
the frame, but they started to meet a certain weight with the driver in
the car. Okay, okay, what's a typical car like one? And
I would drive down the streets say something same sizes and that's kind of like
a healthcat or something like that. What's something like that way versus the thirty
five hundred cars in NASCAR healthcats about thirty three hundred pounds. Believe it or
not. Healthcats are heavy. Mustangs are. I think Mustangs are the lightest
than the Camaros, but the Healthcats are a little bit heavier. Yeah,
I mean, look that. So the next gen car is the new one
for twenty twenty three, right, Yes, Well, Dave raced it last
year too. They gave race it's not just new for this year. Next
gen curve been off for a couple of years. But did they did they
tweak it for twenty twenty three because I thought, Randy, and you'll know
this and I don't remember, but I thought there were problems with guys getting
concussions in what didn't seem to be high impact crashes from the rear. Right,
they did. They did a whole bunch of work to the rear to
change that. Okay, So so then is that changed for this year in
twenty twenty three? So it's still the next gen car? They just treat
it because I think, didn't Kyle Bush or a Kurt Bush excuse me retire?
Yes, he returned the other day, he guess, from back and
into the poconal wall during qualifying. Yeah, and he blamed it on the
car, saying that the way it was structured, it led to the concussion
and he hasn't been the same since. No, he has not. And
NASCAR has known that, and they've taken cars back and back and they've re
vamped this, made more crush zones and made something a little bit different,
so the car will give just a little bit. They were so rigid back
there that they were take pretty much going in back. They were taking the
whole shot the ball. Yeah, okay, so they were taken there.
So those guys were taking the most impact their body was, yes, yeah,
going in backwards. Yes, it's it's amazing because I mean, think
of have you been in car accidents? Oh yes, yeah, oh yeah,
Oh yes, I've been. I've been in one where a lady pulled
out in front of me and I ran and ran into the side of the
door. Okay, so just about in the side of the door. So,
and I was moving about forty miles an hour when I happened, right,
And it's amazing the amount of damage you can do at that speed.
And we and we think that's slow, right, I mean one year and
I've been I literally been the steering wheel forward and my hands on I gripped
when she pulled out and I gripped it so hard and straighten my strength in
my arms straight that I've been the steering wheel. Wow, Wow, you're
you're an animal. Ready strong, ready strong. Yeain't married. It's tracy
because I've been in a few car accidents and they're scary, and I've had
them where I've been hit and spun and not knowing where I was going to
land and wind up hitting a fence and I mean, I can't imagine where
because you're literally out of control. And when your car starts spinning like that,
you know it's most of most people grab and go the wrong way,
so they're they're turning into so you make the spin worse. You're either go
the opposite way or take your hands completely off the wheel and pray. Yeah,
if you watch, if you watched like the years ago, that they
really showed its where the IndyCar does. IndyCar was one of the first guys
that they would just let go of the wheel yea. They didn't want the
wheel to snap around right And actually actually they watched Danny Copetrack do that in
NASCAR when she was in it, and that's when NASCAR guys started actually doing
it. Yeah, I mean it's bigger or not, it's probably the smartest
thing to do. Take your hands off the wheel because you're not gonna be
able to almost sometimes you can't even fight the inersion and stuff that's happening.
Well, and that they come back break fingers, Yeah, they'll come back
right around and break your fingers. Well, they're moving at speeds that are
I mean, you're not hopefully you're not on the roadways. That might sounds
a supert question. But do they and they do practice and stuff like that.
Do they practice certain types of Obviously you can't practice a twelve time role,
but do they practice getting hit and how to kind of take that and
not hurt yourself? To speak, I'm pretty much that they build the cars
that they do. The NASCAR does it at their center. They do testing
and they do different things. Now I've never seen them do it, but
I knew they do do all different kinds of testing. Like they also do
simulations and stuff, you know what, putting in all the factors of speed,
weight and stuff like that. Do they do do that. I mean,
I've never seen them do actual crash tests a car, but I know
they do a lot of a lot of simulations. To try to get it
right. You know it's well, help man, they got it right because
this guy walked away from one of the most horrific looking crashes I've ever seen,
only needing a new race suit. I'm guessing because I would have had
shift my should y, I would have number three a little bit of everything
I'm telling you they say ten times and that thing, I swear to god,
he went over twelve by the time, because it hits on the eleventh
it's like a half turn. It hits on, it lands on the roof
and then bounces back over and he's on the wheels and he lands upright when
it comes to a complete stop, and that's the twelfth time it went around.
If he was good, he would have landed around the on the front
end, right. Unreal. I'm just I'm just glad of landing on the
wheels and not on top, because that would have been that would have been
a crazy scene. To try to get that car. They probably they was.
The first thing they would do is probably check and make sure he's half
decent, Okay. They would probably try to then flip that car bank over
on its wheels. He helped get him out of the car I mean,
if he was really, really hurt, real bad there, you would have
seen him cut their roof off. Yeah. Well they strapped him to a
board pretty quickly when he got out. Wine to me, would that kind
of spending a couple of times that he did head they want to make sure.
Yeah, I don't get that, I get that completely, But I
mean, you know that that's the the I guess we would say in every
sport there's the unexpected. I don't want to say the violence or the you
know, it's it's part of the sport. But you know, there is
an element of danger to many sports, football, Nascar, there's an element
of danger. These are gladiator and I I gotta tell you, man,
I think people discount you know that old joke. It's just left hand turns.
They're moving at speeds I mean centimeters away from each other, and things
like this happen, and it takes a great skill and an unbelievable concentration.
I think to drive these cars for as long as they do. Yeah,
you go back and look at the cars of today. Go back with the
crash and Rusty Walsh at Daytona. Go look back at the crash at Davy
Allison at Pocono. You want to see two wild ass crashes. He gotta
figuet how the hell they walk out of them carves. I mean, that's
just and that's back in the nineties. Yeah, I mean, who crash
didn't look all that bad, horrific. It looks like you hit the wall
and yeah, he's got you see that. Do you see that crash Ryan
Blaney took last night, went on the water one hundred and nineties something.
Oh that happened and just oh, you missed that one that was near the
end of stage two. You should check that at crash out. He went
head on at the wall he was leading, got hit in the right rear,
made an abrupt right turn, and went straight into the wall at one
hundred ninety miles an hour. Damn. I mean he was probably probably no
more than fifteen feet from that wall, bang under the wall. He sat
there a little bit trying to catch his breath. He had to catch his
breath for a little while. Yeah, bring out out of the car.
I can get that. I get that. But still the way they've built
these cars, so, I mean, you work on cars for a living,
and I'm sure you're seeing all kinds of things come in the technology.
I mean, has it trickled down to consumer level? It's, oh yeah,
it had. I mean the cars are rated now and they're rated and
you want they tell you that you want to look for a car and it's
got the best crash ratings there are. Because the Ford pickups, like back
from two thousand and three to a certain year, yeah or nineteen, they
hit this rounded front end the driver's side crashes worked terrible. Yeah, I
mean that was bad for Ford. And then of send, they made a
change and they went from like a two to five. Made it better,
you know, and just but they were really bad. And you know it's
like years ago Chevrolet and forty did he said the gas thing was monitored in
the bad behind this driver, you get a hit in the side, the
gas tank would explode, could explode league, you know. So they've made
changes through the years, but in the last twenty to thirty years, you've
seen drastic changes in Kurve as far as protection. Drastic I love love that
movie. I love the Drastic Park. So, buddy, who did win
Daytona And I mean this is the final regular season race before the playoff?
Who did win it? Why web Chase Ellett ucause Chase Elliot could any but
a hook up with and that's why he didn't win. Chris Buscher won it
as his third win in five races. And that's the team that Brad Keseloski
who actually pushed him to the win and as the part owner of that team,
pushed him to the win. That's because Alaski would win. I get
I want to see him get a win, but he just pushed, stayed
behind his teammate and pushed him to the win and gave that's given them three
wins this year. They've they'ven won a race in a while, so and
they're right now they're the top four team going in. They are they've coming
to guess tooking them all year. It's took in Brad, I know a
year almost two years because he go over last year to get that program going.
And they say, you walk into that shop today just by what Brad's
done in the last almost two years has changed that whole format of that team.
And they're right now they're the team to be. Chris Bosher, he's
won three to last five now it's been on three different SISE tracks and also
it's done on two and a half or two and a half mile. So
let's you know, so let's see what's gonna go. Let's see what happens.
It's gonna be an interesting you know, he's gonna be he's not seated
number one. I think William Barne seated number one. But you know he's
in there. So he's in there. He's got three wins. He's in
there. They're going they're gonna be going to a road course. They're gonna
be going to super speed, gonna go to Teldegat, They're gonna go to
Brustow, a short track. They're going to Darlington, which is one point
three mile, which is actually with the very first super speedway on NASCAR when
it was built. You know. Also, it's gonna get really interesting.
It's you know, it's right, it's gonna be fun. Of course,
Harvard is in. He's in. It's his last ten races as his last,
he'll be done retired, you know, so who knows is he gonna
stick up? He was asked last night with their chances were, and he
said he didn't know, So he really doesn't. He didn't. He said
he didn't want he didn't want to even he said, I didn't want to
even say anything. I don't want to even speculate because I didn't. I
don't think he knows either, all right. I mean there's trouble, there's
struber, there's trouble at Stewart Hat. They need to wake up, something
going on there Stewart hoss Uh switching gears a little bit. Our friend Justin
Harres wins at Land of Legends. What is he the track champion again?
Yeah? Third time, third time in a row, three years and we're
always been track champion years in a row, track champion. That is unbelievable.
That's amazing and it's impressive. And that's even the best part. As
I actually just re I just re up to my U Speedway is Speed Illustrated
magazine and I actually talked to one of the editors. He's the one that
teach one of the tuck and I put in his ear about Justin. So
I think Justin's going to get a story about him in the magazine. Well,
that's great, that's very good. And Justin, of course is a
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need to make your landscape and that much better. That would be uh,
that would be fantasy. That's right. Yeah, there's only one more I
think it's one more points racing. Then it's done and then the big Gerald
here memorial will be later in the month. The once to win. To
me and my grandsaid, we always get invited today, we like to go
there. That's great. His mom, Justin's mom's great. I'm telling you
if you've got to meet her, she's a great lady. I have met
her. I have met her. Okay, she's a great lady. She
really is. Yeah, she's a great lady. Well, Randy, get
ready for the playoffs. And I know you've got a lot going on with
your family. But I'll tell you, man that it was one hell of
a thing in NASCAR to see two crashes of that level and these guys walk
away is unbelievable what they've done with technology. Now. Oh, I mean,
I guarantee they're both a little short today. And I'm sure you know
he's even guaranteed. Priests got black and blue marks as those belts are tight
to hold you in that seat, and I'm sure Ryan's got some a little
black and blue marks on himself too. I guaranteed they both woke up one
to sitt in an ice bass probably for an hour up their neck, probably,
But I don't blame him for that. I think it's the mental aspect
to get back in the car, and you know, how do you I
don't know how you do that? Sometimes, Yeah, they got one more
super speed we race got tall Daga. He's left us on the ten race
deal. So you're gonna go right back to the same thing and the same
thing could happen again, and there's never no maybe say it. I was
bitchy, Tay was South Butler Dragon Race. It was a great day.
We had a lot of fun today. Well good, how was it?
We had great We had I don't know how many cars we had told,
but I know like the last two months we had twenty to twenty five new
people they've never been their race. We had twenty more new people today they've
never raced there. So it was a lot of fun. I think the
top speed was one hundred and thirteen today. The Harold Farrel went one hundred
and thirteen in his Camaro that was the fastest. No, nowhere near the
track record, but that was the fastest. That that's fast enough. There
was a few cards went up over one hundred. That was surprising to see.
It was glad to see because that's what dragon is about. After last
because Harold Ferr went to stay yesterday and he kicked him off because he went
too fast. He went too fast, Yeah, because the role cage in
this car was what they called sir defied. Well, he has not gotten
a recertified cause it costs money to get it. It ain't cheap to get
a certified. So he got a paid go get a certified. He went
five eighths in the eighth and it was too faster. That kicked him to
kicked him out, pulled over at the speedway. Yeah, but is that
is that for let's say it's a safety issue. Yeah, but they want
to make sure. You want to make sure that you give them a time
that you're supposed to hit and if you get under that time, that's not
good. Where you have to the cage is not certified. Cage is not
certified. And he's got that car. He's taken him a couple of years,
but he's got that car rolland so he's gonna be all right, Well
you mean, I'm sure he'll get a certified a bench because he wants.
I'm sure you want to go back there kick some ass, you know.
But all right, Randy, Well, uh, an eventful week and uh
we'll see how things go. Is they're head into the playoffs. Thank you
for your time, sir. Okay, guys, no problem on the Kevin,
we gotta get some biscuits, buddy, Absolutely, let's go. And
you know what I'm he might have been having the yearning for well, I'm
stupid cheddar biscuits at freaking lobster. Oh we tried to go to Red Lobster.
You can't you buy have a lobster. I have a box at home.
I made him a couple weeks ago. You can buy it any good.
Yeah, they're not bad. Any good. I put more on what's
called for in the recipe. But you know, yeah, let me see.
Here's half a couple here or six pounds, let me go. Perfect
for Kevin Harry. I'm right there with you, Kevin Pornin baby, all
right, we'll see you Randy. All right, guys, see later.
That's a fact. Guy's wet tree right there is did you get into Wegmans
BJ three pag look at that? All right, we will, We'll take
a moment, uh and when we come back, Deputy Hurley in studio from
the Monroe County Sheriff's Department. We don't get to that next, but first
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I lived on at good and I approval. Our new friend Jen Christie,
who was at the Fairport Music Fest, probably sung back up on this song
with Melancamp at some point in her career. Obviously he recorded it before she
joined up, but they a whole bunch of stuff and then she was great.
Over the weekend, Deputy Hurley from the Monroe County Sheriff and we were
gonna play. I shot the sheriff and he goes, yeah, but I
didn't shoot the deputy. That's always Uh that's a good thing, right.
You gotta know where your cover is. That is true. Uh. So,
Debbie Hurley, how does it all kind of begin since since you're here,
and we'll get into some other things uh as the podcast progresses. But
you're always interested in in uh kind of service and giving back. Yeah.
So growing up, my grandfather was a fireman in the city. Okay,
so I kind of wanted to follow in his roots, just having that shadow
growing up and seeing you know, the respect that he gets and all the
good things that he did. Yea. So that was my first thought was
to try to follow that and ended up here. Ended up being Yeah,
so with with the Minnroe County Shares, how many years you've been on,
uh, seventeen and a half seventeen and a half years and uh so when
you start, where do they have you start? If you go into that
so when someone retires or we lose people, they just backfill and when you're
new, they can put you wherever they want. Okay. Actually, when
I started all those years ago, I started over here in a zone which
is what the fair board Pittsford Penfield. Yeah right, because Pittsford does not
have its own police departments. The p towns that I put you in the
Cherry gig Star, that's the A zone. That is the A zone.
Well, there's stuff that goes on. I believe me, there's stuff.
I mean, there's a lot of things that you know, nobody hears about.
But these guys all are working. I'm former intern of mine became a
Monroe County sheriff. Actually he was working in radio for a little bit and
then he went over. I forget the guy's name. Uh, And when
I saw him, he was like he went from the skinny little kid,
he was jacked. I was like, damn, it's like it's not an
officer. I want to not that I would ever mess with any of them,
but I go, jeez, you mean him as an internal No?
No, no, no, no, but the uh so seventeen and a
half years. But did you grow up in the Monroe County area? I
did? I up in Greece. So you grew up in Greece. Grandfather
was a city fireman. And what did your parents do? So my dad
worked at Kodak Okay, mom worked at Wegmans. My dad is now a
town justice in Orleans County? Is he really? Yeah? So law enforcement?
Yeah, yeah, there you go. It's in our blood. My
uncle was the Wayne County sheriff for a while. Uh. Jim Hurley,
Jim Hurley. Okay, yes, okay, okay, Wow, Wayne County
you get some They get some good ones out there. Oh yeah, they
get I'd love looking at the Times of Wayne County to see who's been arrested
for what. I think one of my favorites was the guy who was busted
in Ontario. He got pulled over for wearing nothing but green pair of panties.
He had a bottle of Western Oil on the seat next to him and
a dirty book or something and he was going to Ontario Video News but he
had a tail light out. But they write all this in the Times of
Wayne County. It's always, uh, it's something. Are you amazed sometimes
with what people? I mean, you see all levels of humanity, some
of it comicals, some of it's sad, some of it tragic, but
where people's heads are times, Yeah, I think it's safe to say that
I have seen way too many people naked. Really. Yeah, seventeen and
a half years, it's nothing to brag about, but se Yeah, there's
a lot of times where you go to calls and you just scratch your head
and look at people and what were you thinking? Yeah, what were you
doing? Yeah? We got to play our favorite call for him and see
if he's had anything like that. Oh yeah, yeah, there is a
call where a guy winds up turning himself in. I mean it kind of
starts like this, Let's see if I have it right here? Well,
what is the addit of your emergency? Okay, I just want to my
emergency isis I met these two young kids at the bar a couple of nights
ago and all, I'm sorry, you're gonna think I'm a really bad person.
But these says, he's getting a mess. And these were young people,
young like twenties, twenty one, twenty years old. I'm forty one.
So I said, all right, whatever, take my number calling if
you can get it. You called me today and he said, I got
that close? How much money you guys? So well, jeez, I
only got twenty dollars because I'm just strowed on it right now, right He
said, all right, I'm gonna come among me and my farents coming over
to give it to ye. And I heard him lasting in the background,
and then they stoked up in a truck and they look like two shady characters,
and they tell me they gave me, they gave me this piece you
meth with just like three times as much as as you get, but it
looks just much. So the guy wants people to come over then and test
the meth for him because he's worried, but he also knows how much you
should get what he got. You get worried like this, isn't that?
Like you have you had calls like this similar? Yeah, like I said,
I think I told you before we you know, you'll have people who
will call and say, you know, we were making a drug deal and
they stole all my drugs, or someone broke into my house, and as
you're talking and going through the house with him checking, they're like, oh,
you know, I had a bunch of pills over there, or whether
you're your pills. No, not really, but you know, and they
just turn themselves in on all kinds of things. And if you can build
a rapport with people and then you can you know, get that relationship going.
When you sit down across from him, it would be amazed. But
people will tell you, I can't wait till the Jedi mind tricks the shit
out later, something's gonna be awesome. It's like for lawyers here, that's
right, Greig Connors just sat down, so put out my lawyer present.
That's pretty funny. But yeah, it was so naked. You've seen more
people naked, like in what capacity? Every like out just out in the
wild, you name it. People walking down the street, people you knock
on the door because they call and they answer the door. Naked, drunk
people, people have a nervous breakdown. People just love to get naked for
some reason. There is yeah, and I gotta think they're seeing a mental
man. They are naked, shouldn't be naked? No? Right, well,
this is what he said. In my seventeen years, have seen more
people naked than I should have ever seen, and some of the not to
be naked. But when you think about, like the mental health aspect of
stuff, I feel like we have someone of a mental health issue. I
don't want to say a crisis, but there's a mental health issue. And
I don't know if it's the stressors if we're coming out of COVID, but
you see people behaving, We just see more I don't know what it is,
like craziness. And again, we get more information faster than we've ever
gotten it. So I always question and I try to step back and go,
was this always happening and we're just hearing about it more now? But
it feels like, no, I don't think it was always happening to this
level. I was talking to somebody the other day and you know, I
said, I know I'm getting older and things are starting to annoy me a
little bit, right, And I sometimes check if I'm the old man shake
in my fist at the clouds music of today, you know, all those
things. But you know, I think that the world is just different.
Politics, social media, all that, and if you feel a certain way
or you believe a certain thing, you can go on social media and you
can find people who think the same all the time. You find your tribe,
right, you got your tribe and you go and that's the it's it's
great, and it's a problem. You know, if you're if you're somebody
who likes I don't know, hemming engines and hell cats and you can find
the hell Cat group and go look at cars and you know, safely race
them at a drag strip. Great. But then when it's this other stuff
that's more in the French, and they become the loudest and they become the
ones that and I think most people are really in the middle, but we
don't hear from them, and so this gets all the attention and then people
get fired up over it and it's go, God, it's just a bunch
of noise and bullshit, but it starts to move people. Well, the
people you do from the most are the people that are most passionate about whatever
the issue is. It's but that's a that's the small minority of see.
Yeah, And with the politics of the last eight years, more people have
felt a kindred spirit and feel it. They have a voice. I think
the police have probably taken more of it than anybody because of they're the first
responders. So when you have these heightened situations, they're the ones that are
the first people there. They're taking the heat on it. And when we
see it. Even in my profession and our profession since COVID, it's ratcheted
up. I mean, we used to say ten percent of the people take
up ninety percent of our time. Now we have five percent of our people
taking up ninety five percent of our time. It's just gotten worse and worse
and worse. And I mean we've lost five attorneys in six months because they
don't want to deal with the people anymore. People have gotten that bad.
I can't imagine how bad it is. I was just gonna say because I
said to him. You know, there was an officer who once pulled a
gun on me, who came up to me at the Fairport Music fests,
said, hey, remember me, But I was speeding into work Woodcliff had
been robbed. I was doing ninety getting in towards the city and I got
pulled over and there were guns drawn on me, thinking maybe I was to
suspect it was a maroon minivan. I was driving a maroon minivan and I
was not going slow. I was trying to get to CMF at the time,
and he always jokes with me, but he's thirty three years But are
you seeing along the lines of Greg where some officers are going. I'm cutting
this short because it's just it's gotten worse. Yeah, I mean, it's
everybody's personal choice. I know that there are some that are frustrated. But
the positive side to this is, you know, when COVID we had the
protests a couple of years ago, all that stuff, all the bad publicity
on social media, that just made the regular people, right, the everyday
people that you actually see not a keyboard warrior. They come up doing they
say, you know, thank you so much for your service, thank you
for everything. It does feel like the pendulum swinging back a little bit in
that direction. And it was funny because you know, you would see a
lot of like the violence that would come out toward police officers at the different
protests and things and a lot of times. And I always loved the comedian
Bill Birds bit because I had said and I hadn't heard the bit, and
we played it here the other day. I go, I felt like with
Black Lives Matter, at least on the local level, it became middle aged
white women that were down there yelling at the police officers what's sad? And
then all of a sudden they played they go have you heard Bill Burring?
I don't no, And Bill Bird's got it was his Saturday Night live monologue.
I don't know how I missed it. He goes, yeah, he
goes, And then all of a sudden, middle aged white women swing their
gucci footed boot over the defects that they get in there and they're yelling at
officers like, oh yeah, it's but slowly, I feel like the pendulums
come back. You know, this whole idea. I always thought the U
and I had talked to your boss, Sheriff Baxter about this. I never
liked the term defund the police. I can understand where we can say,
hey, some things aren't work and we need to reallocate some money. Maybe
we need to have that program they used to have at least in the city
where police officers were also coaching youth sports and playing there was that was a
whole program for a long time. I think that's how what's his name he
played for the Knicks for John Wallace. I think John Wallace was what came
out of those programs as a kid, and it has been an advocate saying
we need that kind of program back to build the re or between the police
and the community. And those are things. So if you want to reallocate
money like that, but don't call it defund the police. And come on,
man, we can't have Greece just took that program away because my son
Tyler plays it in every year with softball. It was a blast and they
didn't do it this year and the new chief didn't want to want to reallocate
funds elsewhere. Yeah, well, I mean it does become a budget issue.
But so two things real quick. Where we're seeing it the most is
in the recruitment. Okay, and when I took the test eighteen years ago,
I'm going to say there was sixteen or eighteen hundred people signed up to
take the test. Wow, this last test that we have everybody signed up,
I want to say we have maybe six or seven hundred. Really,
I signed it so comparatively will So that's where you're seeing the herd. It's
changing people who want to get into this career. Those of us that got
into the career are here. We're going to see it through to the end.
But it's getting more people in the door for the future. That's when
is the next test? Is there another one coming up in the spring or
when they do them? So the next test I believe is next month?
Oh next month, but yeah, I think the sign up is already over
for that one, but there will be another one soon. Yeah. And
how would people find out about signing up for the test? Let's say I'm
listening to this, I'm interested. I want to so you can follow our
social media. We have it on the recruitment social media Facebook, Twitter,
you can follow our web page monro Konni sheriff dot gov. And there's also
the civil Service page that will announce whenever the tests are Yeah, the Berkeley
Marine did a story. I know, Kiya boys has been a big deal
throughout the county, primarily in the city and Berkeley Breen did a whole story
where he went into the tunnels underneath the subway and they found abandoned kyas in
there, and I told him he needed to get tested for diseases after coming.
Now, but how is that becoming less more remaining the same? I
feel like I'm hearing about it less. But then I think I went to
one of the websites today and it said that a stolen car are driven by
a nineteen year old drove into a house. So I again, in the
city and not primarily your area. But look, I mean, I know
you guys all support each other and and Sheriff Baxter has been out in the
front talking about all the violence in the city. Absolutely, I would say
stick with us. We may have some information coming up all the time this
week about some of that stuff at the subway cars. I can tell you
that we did find those you didn't We had those toad out they're now in
RPDS custody because they were stolen out of the city, so they're you know,
they're processing those and they're trying to find who stole them. Yeah,
when those cars go into impound, the impound isn't I mean, it's not
free. So those people have to then pay to get their car back that
was stolen that they didn't put an impound for any of their own actions.
Like if you get pulled over for DWI, your car goes to impound or
wherever it gets told out of there, do they have to pay all that
stuff? I mean, that's it. So I'm not sure how it works
for the city. For the Sheriff's office, we do it a couple different
ways. If we if you're drunk, you crash your car, Yeah,
you get arrested, we tow your car, We have it towed to the
TOE agency, and then the toe agency will charge you. Yeah if it's
evidence, if we take it and hold it it fleet. I don't believe
we charge Oh okay, all right, Yeah, I don't know how all
that works. But I go point just the pain of the assets to the
person who has the car stolen, and then I don't know how you solve
this problem when again a product of social media and board kids and you know,
so it's a couple of things, right, It's it's education. It's
it's teaching people how to make their car a harder target so that it's not
so easily stolen. It's on pushing the car manufacturer to make the changes so
that the car can't be stolen that easy. But then you saw them still
smashing the windows, trying to get the car, breaking the steering column,
and then they find out it's already been fixable, but the damage has been
done. And then you know, it's it's just watching these people that are
doing But like you said, unfortunately a lot of them are juveniles. So
we catch them and you have to let them go. And then we catch
them again and you have to let them go. How So the Beill reform,
that's of a product of the Bill reform. It's a big part of
it. Raised the age all of that stuff. And I thought Mayor Evans
had spoke one time when I was on radio and said that the idea behind
that was that if you stole a pack of gum, you could still we
would let you out so you could go to work because we don't want you
then falling behind, because the whole idea was it becomes and I don't know
if this is the termino, but almost a cycle and poverty, right,
I do something silly and I get okay. So that was the idea.
He goes that that's the thinking behind it, and he said, I feel
like it's gone too far. We've got we need to somehow redo this.
But that's a state issue, not a local issue. So people are you
know, sometimes I feel like like you talk about you don't at the clouds.
I feel like a lot of people get on and just yell at the
clouds and not there's no you're not making a difference in that. I think
you got to write your representative absolutely and try to say, hey man,
this is a problem. Absolutely. And you know, as the person who
one of the people who manages our social media read the comments and there's a
ton of people who say, you know, we'll stop letting them go.
It's like we can't. It's we only enforce the law. We don't make
the law right. We do everything that we can, and if we let
them go and they come in another crime, we're gonna get them again.
I have to go to your social media and read that's the comments. They
have to be priceless, and we get the same thing in our air.
I mean, I'm talking about this worker's camp. You know, people are
just dissatisfied, they're frustrated, they're angered by just process. And we don't
write the laws. We just interpret it and apply it to your circumstance and
advocate in your behalf. But is it unfair? Yeah? Should you be
upset and frustrated, Yeah, but you gotta you gotta, you know,
look at the governor and look at your rep. Look at your state senator.
It's it's there's so many other forces, particularly coming from downstate, that
influenced the noise of it that you know. It's most people don't know anything
about the laws until they're faced with the situation, and then they find out
that, you know, it's not really it doesn't seem fair or how whatever
term they want to use. But that's where, you know, and it's
I don't know how you stay up on all this stuff like that's your job
or that's your job. But for the average citizen, I don't know how
they stay up with just in terms of life and stuff. And then you're
stuck on Facebook. Have the people yell at the clouds reading it? Can
the local level do anything to kind of a mend not a men with the
states done, but kind of put their own procedures in place on stuff like
that, saying, hey, you know, we're not gonna you steal pack
gum yet you're good you steal a Kia not so much. Yeah, and
you've seen a couple of things that we've done, right, And the county
executive bellows done with the children's detention center now so we can put kids there
instead of just letting them go all the time. It gives them a faster
process instead of, hey, here's your parent tickets. See in six weeks,
they get rained. That day they you know, they sit inside the
detention center and it's immediate action, so they can't just run back out and
commit more crimes. There are things that we're trying to do. It's it's
just a process. Yeah, it looks like a sometimes a thankless process,
thankless jobs. Yeah, I mean that's what it really does look like that
the reward, the reward comes in when your family safe for them. It
really is, you know, last night we were here, you're here in
fair pur for the fair Part Music Festival, and there were Monroe County Sheriffs.
The reward is we were there. Everybody had a great time. There
was no disturbance. There was no unrest at least none non significant that we
know about. And everybody had a great, safe time. That's the reward
that they get when they do their job and they do it well. And
they were outside, they were in mingling, they had you know, people
probably were not making good decisions and you just kind of talked them and steer
them in the right direction and make sure they make better decision. It was
funny. I was saying Greg. As I walk back from Iron Smoke up
to here, I was like, wow, this has been fantastic night.
Yeah. I saw, you know, groups of young people. But uh
like, even as I was walking down, I go on, I wonder
what these guys are gonna say. I don't know why, because I was
with my son. I popped into my head. They were just laughing walking
back to the car. There was no issues at all, nothing nothing,
nobody there wasn't, you know. And when you're in certain parts of different
cities, like if you're in a certain part of Buffalo and you have an
event like that, you know, you walk down the street, you wonder
if you see somebody, what's gonna happen, what's going to a rop Even
in the city of Rochester it's six miles away, you think that you know,
and and it's unfortunate, and it's the community that we live in.
But it's really about the feeling safe and doing the right thing and understanding how
to treat other people. And it comes from within. It comes from your
family, it comes from the community, It comes from teachers, It comes
from the police force being out and doing coaching and just just being out there
and helping kids know that if you make right decisions, good things can happen.
I think what the sheriff does and what you do with the podcast is
a great idea. And I just want you to know that Matt Barnes,
Chief Barnes from Fairport, is trying to steal that idea. Yeah, he
wants he wants to come over here and do a podcast. He wants to
do the whole thing. Told me that after Fairport Music Festival he wants to
find some time and do a podcast. But but he's been in pressed with
what uh you and the sheriff have put together over there. It is pretty
nice. And he and the sheriff were some of the first guests at my
kitchen table when we started. Yeah, yeah, they came to I remember
that. We were one of the first ones. All right, we'll say
it was a raid, but you know, well, we'll take a moment
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That's my favorite part of the n w A movie. But the guy's trying
to explain to them how good he is as a record user. Yeah,
and he took the freaking California raisins and let them quadruple platinum. Yeah,
we'll sign when you were good. Well, you hear a lot of things
through the Grape Fine, I'm sure, and we hear it all the rumors
you have to hear more rumors about. Do you ever hear rumors about yourself
as an officer? Yeah? Right, I'm sure. One of my favorite
stories about that is you'll you'll arrest somebody, You'll have him in the back
seat and they say, hey you no officer Hurley, we're good friends.
Like, oh here's a jerk. Wow. They try to throw your name
around. What do you look like? You know he looks different, Yeah,
And I'm like, oh god, well that's a fail. That's terrible.
Uh. We were talking about you know, cut day and uh,
I forgot you do youth hockey as well? Used to Yeah, oh you're
used to? Yeah, because I was asking like, I did not try
out for the basketball team because I knew I would get cut And I never
got cut. From any sport, and I didn't think I could handle it,
and I just knew my Looking back, I go, I'm sort of
self aware and also terrible because I think you you probably who knows, maybe
you would have made it, or you would have learned and enjoyed play the
game and challenge yourself and pushed yourself to do something. And that was a
week move not to do that, but I didn't on purpose. That was
the one reason I never played organize basketball was because of that. And I
love watching basketball. I love it. I think it's almost a musical game
the way they play. I mean it's hard as a coach too, to
make cuts. I mean having unfortunately, I mean I coached youth. I
coached youth basketball lacross and football, and we didn't really we didn't make cuts
in football because football you can always find a spot for somebody. Yeah,
basketball, you know, there's five guys around a court. You can't have
twenty kids. And that was hard. That was That was particularly when they
were younger, because you never want to kill somebody's dream and puberty. The
only thing about youth sports for me is having having coach when I was in
college youth sports when I was twenty years old and just was you know,
just all aggression and just took the tough kids and whatever. But then seeing
your own kid and then other kids, and then watching them growing mature at
different stages. I mean, I've seen kids that were horrible in sports when
they were ten or eleven, and then they hit puberty and all of a
sudden, they're the best lacrosse players that are on the Well see on the
field this and you're like, where the hell did that come from? Right?
And well, like it all comes together. Ye ever have those moments
where it all comes together? You know? I think it was Steve Serku
was in here when we was talking about law school and maybe you can relate
to this. He goes he was going to a professor, and then he
goes, man, I'm just not getting it. He goes, are you
studying? He goes, yeah, like six seven hours not He goes,
give it a little time, and he was Then the light went on and
it all clicked. And I think that's a lot of you know, times
for kids too figuring it out. But if you don't have all that behind
you to help, you know, wrap your brain around. That was the
thing I always say, with my kid, because he plays hockey, there's
five spots and he's a goalie, so there's only one for that. Yeah,
and only can one can play, whereas the other players. You can
swap him out as you need to. Yeah, there's only one goalie.
And he finally got it in high school. He's like, yeah, I
made the wrong decision in the in the NFL cuts. The NFL cuts are
different than youth sports because what hurts most when you have a youth sport cut
is the parents are hurt the most. Yeah. When when the guys in
the NFL get cut, man, that's the that's their soul, that's their
identity, that's everything about them. U sports, these kids are most of
these kids. First of all, I don't think I ever cut a kid.
And we might get some feedback on this who put the time in and
wanted to be there. If that kid wanted to be there and he tried,
and he worked his tail off and he practiced outside of practice, we
wouldn't cut that kid. But if you had a kid whose parent wanted him
there, the kid and wasn't there and he was borderline, there are other
kids that worked harder. I was. We were more inclined with the guys
that I coached with to have the kid who wanted to be there rather than
the parent who wanted to have their kid there. Because the kids look and
the kids know you're eight years old, nine years old. They know whether
they belong or don't belong it more so than the parents do. Parent meltons
are always the best of Seriously, Deputy Hurley, A couple, do you
have a few? How do you handle that? Now? This is where
you've got better training, probably than anybody at the table. And I think
about this, how to handle of it? Know what you're doing, No,
but a crisis situation. You're trained in this. Yes, the issue
is because of the job. Right, there was people who just wouldn't come
to you because for whatever reason they were afraid. And you're unapproachable because you're
a police officer, okay, right. And it's the mustache. Yeah,
back in the day, I gotta grow hair somewhere. That's why my hair
is long, because I can't grow must mine's going south. Uh, you
know, it's it's a couple of things. And sometimes you made those cuts
because it wasn't fair to the kid. Right. They you can never tell
like you said, you know, they're they're eight years old, they're nine
years old. You don't know where they're going to be in a couple of
years. But there's no sense in a couple months, even a couple of
months, but there's no sense having them ride the bench, right, you're
not getting that quality time, especially in hockey. Right, you got to
get as much ice time as you can. That's what's gonna help you.
That's gonna get better. And if they're just not getting it's a waste of
their time and it's a waste of their money. And it's never fun to
cut anybody. Yeah right, Yeah, parents are the best, you know,
everybody, everybody's kids the next Wayne Gretzky. And you know you're you're
a volunteer. You're not getting paid, right, you're actually in hockey.
You pay to be there because you have to take special courses up the USA
Hockey all that stuff. So you oh yeah, oh I didn't know that.
Oh yeah, you're something with basketball, Greg when you know you and
stuff, au you have to do that, but local coach I did.
Yeah, yeah, so you did the same thing, and that's volunteer.
Yeah, yeah, you got to certify. We pay you pay to coach.
That's what I'm saying. That's what he's saying right to the volunteer.
We're actually laying out hard cash and absolutely and you're time. Yeah, it's
all your time. So Gene Mask, Gene Mask and Gene Matt Mico football
coach and Hornell. He had one of the best lines at like the parent
remember being like in ninth grade and he had the parent meeting beforehand. He
was like, look, if you've got problems with your son's playing time,
you have your son. Come and talk to me. If your son has
problems with playing time, you have your son, come and talk to me.
If you have problems, don't. I don't want to talk to you.
I want to talk to your son. He's the kid who's on the
team, right And I gotta tell you that he didn't get too many complaints
because the kids knew, they understood what they were putting in, where they
fit in the team, what effort they put in. Parents didn't you're not
a practice. You're not there. You don't you always have this vision of
what your kid is and what you want them to be. You as a
parent, we need to be there to support our kids and to push them
to excel and to commit the time, to sacrifice, to put the time
in to be successful. I mean, look, my oldest son will love
basketball, loved hoops. He put time in, he committed his time to
it. He was on the varsity team. He didn't quite get the playing
time that he wanted. And I was like, you gotta go talk to
coach. I mean, I'm not your coach. You gotta talk to him.
Coach comes in. You gotta work on this, this and this.
He would do practice. He then put in the time after practice. He
still didn't get the time on the court that he wanted. He thought he
should play more, but he didn't. They won sectionals. That's all that
mattered right now. And now he's in college and I'm like, you know,
would you learn from that? He goes. He he studies his butt
off because he knows that's what it takes in order to be at the level
he wants to be in. You just can't put in regular time. You
gotta put in the extra time if you want to be the best at what
you're doing, right, And that's what sports teaches you, whatever the sport
is, and that's what youth hopefully that's what the coaches and youth are trying
to teach youth and to do these things. And it's not not everything's not
a fit for for your kid. You know, some kids are great in
swimming, they're not good in hockey, right, some kids are good in
lacrosse, they're you know, they're not good in tennis. It's you know,
allow your kid to fit in where they want to. And as a
grandparent, just love your kid. Just love your grandkid. Just whatever you
do, just cheer him on, just say he did a great job.
You don't though he sucks. That's all they want. I know not of
a lawyer in town who used to go and his son was a coach,
and he would yell and get guy thrown ahead of places. Oh I like
the guy a lot, but you know, he's very passionates, the city
resident, and he's a very passionate, yes, passionate man, and his
and his sons are very passionate as well. What's great about coaching, especially
the youth level, is it's just full of life lessons. If you get
cut, there's two ways you can handle that. You can pout, you
can sulk and not change, or you can take that and use that as
a drive to get better and then the next time not get cut right.
And the same thing with losses, Like I don't like to lose, right,
no one does. But when you lose, you learn from it.
Yeah, and you get those teams that never ever lose, and then when
they do it, that's a great time to really drive home to those kids.
It's so funny because you know sports, as long as you don't lose
in the super Bowl, well, it's win or lose. Right In life
though, a lot of times people you know you lose, and I always
think that's where you gotta I never think of it as a loss necessarily.
I think of it as you're pushing yourself a little bit further. It's never
you never get it wrong. You just never get it done. That's just
not the right way, and you gotta keep pushing. But it is that
lesson early on, where hey I did this before, I can make it
again, and I've done it and this is and I can apply it here.
Yeah, and it's life. You don't always win in life. Right
now, You're you may not be a good accountant, but you could be
a great lawyer, right and you can. You don't always win a trophy.
Not everybody in life wins a trophy. And it's a terrible thing to
teach kids at a young I'm a big fan of the same thing. That
just drives me so and the thing is so extrapolate this to life. Right,
So, you're in youth sports, things aren't going your way. You're
in a job, the job isn't quite for you. How do you handle,
you know, being terminated? How do you handle being fired? You
take it two ways? Call my mom, take it as an opportunity.
I call my mom and she and I would say that. I mean,
I don't know if you've ever gotten anything like that, but I've heard of
employers getting letters or emails from parents. Yeah, Jeffy, Yeah, could
you imagine? No, no, no, But those are the lessons.
And I think the generation us us, as parents, we need. I
think we need to do a better job equipping our kids with the skill set
in order to handle that type of rejection. Right. Yes, I mean,
look, I haven't succeed in every job I've done, but I've used
I've utilized that as a different experience to help me be successful in other things
I'm good at, rather than using as oh, I'm a failure. I'm
going to quit. I'm a loser, which some people do or people some
people like, oh Greg, it's not your fault, it's their fault,
it's all them. Well, either's some accountability to me. What am I
going to learn from it? I've come to believe and I always tell me,
what's whatever happens to you in some way is your fault? What that
is? Well, you're you're doing something and the end probably the best thing
all of us can do, it's work on ourselves. When you work on
yourself, you're going to be better for everybody. You're gonna be more intractive
to your employer or whoever you're working with. It just makes everything better.
But you invest more time on yourself, learning more things, investing on something
that may advance your group, but it just increases your knowledge. And a
lot of times you get kicked in the teeth, but I don't know if
you're competitive, get back up and let's go, And you said go ahead.
I'm sure you've had the situation, same kind of situation with parents,
where why are you arresting my kids? He's a good kid. Seven TVs
and four pounds of cocaine over here. But he's a good kid. So
I was gonna I was gonna bring that up, right, you'll we'll make
a traffic stop. Back when I did them, you'd make a traffic stop
and you'd pull up and it'd be a sixteen seventeen year old kid and they've
got the phone and they're trying to hand you the phone. It's my mom,
and it's like, put that down. You're the one on driving,
you have a license, you're operating the car. Your mom or your dad
isn't going to answer for you. You're the one that has to do it.
Yeah, right. I mean now with razy age, it may be
a little bit different, but back then it was you're sixteen, you're the
adult. Now you're driving the car. You can put your phone down,
you can talk to your parents afterwards. There's no reason for me to talk
to your parents. You're the one who was speeding. You're the one that
did whatever, you know, and you and you explain it to them and
you give them that whole back and forth of here's why I stopped you this,
you know. But it's like the one thing and the one thing for
me, and I agree with the hundred percent on that you know, and
I hate to bring my anilien to this, but so Will's at penn State
and he's late for class. So he's speeding through campus and the nim Nod
drives right by campus security and gets pulled over. Well makes him look totally
late for class. I don't even missed the class. But he was like
complaining about why'd he pulled me over? Was you know, the guy was
an idiot? He was And I'm like, you would go in fifty and
a thirty Are you kidding me? You're that's dumb. It's not gonna help
you. So he had to be accountable for that, he had to take
accountability for his actions. He had to go in, he had to pay
his fine, you know, has a mark in Pennsylvania on his license.
I'm like, Lee, s grew up again. You're done. I mean,
that's on you. I'm not gonna The one thing, the one thing
for me and that I see today and you could probably kind of touch on
this more, is that the forgiveness of our judicial system with kids doesn't seem
as tolerant as it was when when we were in the eighties and the nineties.
So I made some bad mistakes and that. I know, it's hard
to believe. In horn Ow, I made a couple of you know,
those poor cows, those damn cows, those those dirt roads. But you
know, But but the people that were in the judicial system, some of
the police officers, you know, knew my parents, knew my family.
He's like, Okay, look he's a fourteen eighteen, seventeen year old kid.
He's just being an idiot, dude, But you could talk to the
parents. Fourteen eighteen, how much trouble do you I knew, and there's
a reason why I went to law school. You knew that It's been a
lot of time that wouldn't happen at home. Look, yeah, I remember
getting a speeding ticket and my dad had a Fiarro and he let me take
it to work and he goes, no tickets I got. I was coming
up to the Kingston Ryan Cliff Bridge, and I was so tempted when I
saw I was doing eighty five. I had the rolling stones cranked on my
little cassette tape and I'm the windows are shaking and I'm flying and I go,
damn it. And I was so tempted to because back then it was
fifty cents or a quarter or something to go over the bridge, and they
had the basket that you would toss your chains into. Yeah. I was
so tempted to toss my fucking florid over there, and I didn't. I
pulled over, but I didn't call my dad. I didn't even want them
to know. I got ticket. You got more trouble. I got more
in trouble at home. And I did buy the police, yes, yeah.
And the biggest rat was I'm gonna call your dad about this, And
I was like, no, just write me a ticket, man, Yeah,
exact, let me pay the fine. I don't want to have to
deal with that. I don't think I don't see parents today doing that as
much. I think that they try to justify and explain away why their kids
shouldn't be in trouble, as opposed to saying, you know what you were
speed, it's your damn fault, don't do it next time. Right,
Well, I mean those are the laws are designed to try to prevent you
from doing it again. Right, That's why the speeding and things are the
laws are the way they are. Right. Absolutely, that's a it's a
life skill, right. You have to be able to talk, you have
to be able to answer for your actions. And just because you pull somebody
over if your speeding, doesn't mean they're always going to get the ticket.
But you're gonna have a talk on the side of the road, right and
to just hand the phone and say, hear my mom's gonna handle this.
No, that's not life. That's not gonna work in your hand exactly.
Uh. Well, you know it's funny we're since we're talking about cuts in
the NFL, teams have to cut what by Tuesday at four fifty three man
roster. Yeah, so I called Quentin Gauze today. And Quintin is a
local product and he had tried out for the Eagles, had a great preseason,
thought he was gonna make it, and then some cornerback became available and
the fifty three man roster wasn't gonna put it there, and so he winds
up. I think he bounced around. Eventually caught on with Denver, played
in some games as an NFL linebacker, and then I went to Canada.
I think he's either in the XFL now or I don't know what what he's
doing now. He just said to me, let me call you right back.
It sounded like he was in a crowded place. I never heard of
him again today, but he's an interesting one because I wanted to know,
you know, the guy the Turk who had used to see it on hard
Knocks. I don't think they're showing it anymore. I don't think they show
the cut anymore. But the players parents complained about it. Well, it
happens again. It happens at the very end of training camp. So so
they cut now in the last day of training camps. There's no there's no
other cuts. They used to have cuts periodically to out training camp. They
eliminated that because they needed players there to play the games, because the guy
didn't want they're about to play. They want to have bodies. So it
is a weird thing, like why do they have to go at six o'clock
in the morning. I can't think. Wait, let the guys sleep into
nine because if they know they're cutting them, lets you always get that knock
on the door. Guys all sleep Yeah, Uh, coach wants to see
you bringing the book, and I go, it's got to be six am.
You give me at least an hour an hour bore, Well, a
part of that, I mean you cutting me I'll be there later there.
I mean a part of that from that messaging was the coaches are there,
Why aren't you working, the guys that are making the team. Where the
guys that are up at six o'clock putting the time in studying the book lifting
wings. Wow, okay, I see, I see. I still comedy
comedy show. All I know is that Kevin and I asked you to come
hang out with us on Saturday to watch the Bills game and do some day
drinking. Yeah, and have some fun. That's but you didn't come.
Why Because you were working? I was you were working. That's what makes
you good at what you do, because you put that time and was doing
some some other podcast though, and that's why you're successful, and that it
was lemonade and nice team. We were drinking. I will, I will,
I wasn't driving. I will driving that. I was with somebody today
who said to me, man, I didn't think it was gonna work what
you were doing, what you were doing, And he goes, I'm blown
away by what you did. And I and that that's the greatest compliment in
the world. I mean, that's a that's a great compliment for someone in
what I do or did in radio to say that and mean it. I
was like, yeah, damn, that's nice, that's very nice. Yeah,
I had I had no doubt that you were going to make it.
I didn't know how quickly you would get there, but I had no I
didn't still climbing and I'm still going. He just said to me, he
goes, that looked like a mountain that was possible to climb. That's what
they said to me. And I went, yeah, that surround yourself with
good people. There you go to tell you the other thing that is absolutely
true. That is a true And there are people who never stepped foot in
this studio or behind a microphone at any point that have been really instrumental in
helping me with stuff. I remember when things were going down and you had
an idea this. You said, look, this is what I'm thinking about
doing, and I was like, all right, what's it cost? What's
the business, what's the model, what's the costs? Don't know? I
was like, what's the expense? What do you gotta do's You've been telling
me you want to do this for three years. Yeah, we'll do it.
Let's go. Yeah. It was a it's a it's A funny thing
is you know, with that kind of stuff, there are no rules.
And sometimes I think even in life in general, if you think about people
tell you how to do something, there's rules there, right, and sometimes
in your training and things if you expand it out and go a little bit
hard and do more and go beyond what they're telling you and nutrition wise,
I mean, we watched the guy played a practically forty five and one of
the most violent sports in the world. Right he was on the field for
the last Raiders game telling those guys, you know, go make this the
best day or rip their hearts out or whatever Tom Brady said to the Raiders
because he's a minority owner now. And then you know, joking around with
other guys who came over to him, going, you hit me too much
and that's why I'm not here anymore. But you played to forty five because
you were so disciplined. Your diet. People made funny your diet that you
had avocado ice cream. Who wants to live that way? I wouldn't want
to live that way. Well, it depends on what your goal is.
Won seven Super Bowls? Okay, why are you going to rub it in?
I know I believe Kevin does. Every time I see him. Almost
yours Pat's hat yesterday to the Bills game at my house. Say your Buccaneers
geared down to the basement yesterday. I'm a Bucks NFC team. Why don't
we take a moment. I do want to talk a little bit about the
Bills. I want to talk about the Trey Lance thing, touch a little
bit on college football. There's a college football player that's getting a lot of
attention because of the number he wears and his name has nothing. I don't
know that he's a he's a red shirted senior. I don't know whether this
guy's been but he's getting a lot of attention now, which will just be
funny because college football kicks off next weekend. Here we going for West Virginia,
Penn State, West Virginia. Yeah, you're a Notre Dame guy.
You're not stomp Navy and Ireland yesterday. Oh that does that count? That's
the kickoff? Okay, okay, okay. You never feel good about beating
Navy though, right, No, no, I know right. The Army
Navy of my brother in law was a West Point guy, so that was
always a big deal of the Army Navy games of any level, even if
I think it's soccer, they took it all over, dude. The pomp
and circumstance, everything's round in that football game is what's what's great about college
football. Yeah, it is probably the greatest tradition. If you watch one
college football game a year, watch that. It just makes you feel good
about Yeah, college football in America, and it's it's it's I think one
of the games that has the least amount of penalties called. I think it's
because the referees don't throw a full coaches are going to rip their heads up
shoot them. All right. We'll take a moment and get to that next.
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owner of the Buffalo Bills, as I like to say. And it's coming
down to it's coming down to cut day. And I was somewhat impressed that.
And yet I don't know what this means. I think want you to
look at the quarterback situation. You're gonna have Josh Allen and Kyle Allen.
I think you put Barkley on the practice squad or the emergency quarterback. Would
that be the way we go? Yeah, but I don't know. You
can have four now, oh you can afford Yeah, because of San Francisco,
because of San Francisco last year. It won't count if you can add
a quarterback to your practice squad, but it won't count towards your numbers on
the practice squad. So you can have one. You can have your two
one within your practice squad if you want, you can have another one that's
part of your practice squad. As you emergency quarterback. Okay, and it
doesn't count towards your practice squad numbers. But the fact that they reached out
or involved in Trey Lance and the move that he ended up in Dallas,
which I go Dak Prescott, I mean said they never said anything to me,
but this is a business, and he said all the right stuff,
but there was never a conversation. I guess they didn't really owe him that
I suppose, but it wouldn't be questioning because he was a high draft pick
though he was the third pick over and well and they traded the freaking Dolphins
pick. The Dolphins ended up getting Wattle Tree Hill, Oh my god,
who else was it? There were two other players I can't remember what it
was. I mean, they got four players out of that trade that are
freaking starting for them right now that are key players of the Dolphins team.
Yeah. Yeah, trade Land, I mean that's a would that have been
a good move, I mean for Buffalo, and that would have I liked
it. I mean if, if, if, if Brandon Bean could have
pulled that off. I thought it had been great for two reasons. One
is that that Trey Lance is a is young, He's on a rookie count
Stills. But number two is that his skill set is similar to what Josh's
skill set was. He's a strong athlete with a strong arm, and that's
what Josh is. So you the offense doesn't have to change. You go
to t You go from Josh to Trey if you have to, and you
know, hopefully you're talking a short term circumstances is that you don't miss a
beat. You know, with Kyle Allen, he's he is similar to Josh,
but not the same skill set, not as athletic as Josh is.
Where Trey Lance is him going him going to Dallas. I mean, look,
Dak Prescott hasn't finished a season. No, he hasn't, and that's
the are you kidding me? I mean, and he's coming in and I
think it's a great move for Dallas. Dallas was able to take his contract
and they gave up a fourth rounder, which which was nothing. That's nothing,
that's nothing. I thought the same thing, and I thought, wow,
this is a kind of an interesting move because Dak gets hurt often.
And then you know, when you're looking at Buffalo with with Kyle Allen,
the only thing I thought is, well he can handle it. But this
is Josh's offense, right, so yeah, you would adjusted. You would
have a week to adjust to make it more Kyle's offense if he was in
there. But yeah, yeah, well are you feeling confident going in well
in terms of like all the pick I mean, I know we talked they
looked better against Chicago. It seemed like they I didn't think there was any
upside to the starters playing in the Bears game. All I saw was potential
downside and that injuries could happen or they could lay another egg like they did
against the Steelers. The Bears defense was not is not as good as the
Steelers defense. So and I think that's what Sean McDermott saw, and I
think his press conference McDermott said, you know, every preseason is different.
We have to do it's best for the team, and so he I think
they knew that they could be successful against this Bear defense and gained some confidence
in kind of quiet some of the naysayers like like me, like I was
last week the same thing. Yeah, it was like what seven eight play
drive and went down. They scored, They did what they had to do.
The other thing that I liked in this game, which I did not
see as much in the Steelers game, and was Dorsey changed formations. He
shifted formations, gave Josh, it gave the line some pre snapper reads in
terms of what coverage they were in, and they used it and it worked
out well for them. So I kind of again, it makes me say,
Okay, so Dorsey, maybe he's growing and maturing as a second year
offensive coordinator in the NFL. So yeah, I'm ready, man. September
eleventh, Here we go, New York City, New York City. It's
just a lot of pressure in that game. I feel like it. And
I don't know, you wanted to say professional athletes, right, professional athletes
they have to perform in these situations and that's why they're sports psychologist. And
you get ready for the game, and you know, part of you hear
every guy who retires. I'm gonna miss walking out of the tunnel on a
Sunday. I'm gonna that that roar of the crowd, that camaraderie that going
away the past. I may have convinced our friend Greg Connors go to a
Sunday night game in New York too. While he's down there. Oh yeah,
what's the Sunday night Dallas and the Giants. You know, that's an
interesting thing because we were talking when Matt was in here. He's a big
Dallas fan, because why didn't we think of that? You could have done,
you know, he goes, you probably could have found tickets for both
games, and I got my Jets. I got my Bill's Jets tickets from
Monday night. I didn't appreciate that the Dallas and the Giants game was Sunday
nights. So I'm thinking about what are you going in? I'm either going
in Saturday or Sunday morning. Yeah, I'm much quite sure. Yeah,
but now with the Giants game Dallas, I might go on Saturday for sure.
Yeah. Do you have a Do you have a team, Debbie Hurley,
any team that's is or footballing. You're more of a hot more of
a hockey guy. Yeah, more of a hockey. I grew up a
Raiders fan because my dad was. But yeah, watch more college football now
than the NFL. Yeah. Did you grew up in Rochester Raiders fans?
So he's probably like a Kenny Stabler guy back with John Madden back in the
early seventies. Okay, I can see that. My grandfather. I remember
watching that Super Bowl at my grandfather's house, and he wasn't a football fan,
but he loved John Madden. He thought John Madden was great. Yeah,
John, he did a Hell. There's a college football player who plays
for Ohio, not Ohio State, but Ohio. His name is Parker Tittsworth
and he wears number sixty nine. And I go, he's getting like I
I opened up social media. I go, we're all thirteen year old boys
forever. This is it. Everyone's going, what a great name, Parker
Tittsworth. I go, what then? This is what social media has to
being up, designed by genius, to be run by that guy in the
Patriots that one night we were all laugh. Was not gonna say it,
but oh okay, okay, never mind, you can look it up.
I just remember them now. Yeah, but I go that that's the thing.
Now you'll go down so you'll have weekends, Greg, that you'll hit
a Penn State game and a Bill's game. Yes, yeah, yeah.
And this weekend coming up, Luke has his first high school game against Hilton
Friday night, and then I'll head down to Penn State, UH for the
West Virginia Penn State Saturday night game, okay, and then come back.
If the Bills had a game Sunday afternoon, i'd Sunday night, I'd be
there for that. But it's Labor Day weekend. So yeah, are you
coming out to the West Side or is it out here? It's in Hilton,
Yeah, Hilton. Yeah, I got my passport ready and everything I
saw. I'll have some breakers in the fridge for not far from I saw
the I saw some write up. I think it was Hilton, the team
that didn't have a lot of veterans coming back. They were like a new
quarterback. I don't remember. I thought I saw a headline. The DNC
did a nice job. And on another radio show I did years ago,
we used to have the high school Fantasy Football. Oh my gosh, I
do remember. You can recruit you well. It was just a way to
talk about the local kids. And so if you were you know, your
kid was playing and you want to nominated, or your nephew was playing,
we could get you know, you could brag about him a little bit because
nobody knew. We had no idea who these kids were. Yeah, there's
nothing better than high school sports. I mean, the watching these kids play
off summer preparing themselves. You know, Luke's team doesn't have a lot of
kids returning. They had a great team last year. A lot of those
kids went on there playing in college, either football, across or different sports.
And so it just gives them a chance to we're out and compete and
have a good time. And you know, again, for me, these
guys at this level in high school, it's the lessons you learn on that
field with those coaches and the guys you're around takes you. I mean,
that's what teaches. Life is about team sports, and that's what it is.
And I thought you were going to say the thing that the guys missed
most coming out of the tunnel, but it's also being around the guys on
Sundays with having your guys, having that team. Yes, there's nothing better
than having and I think people, I think we're pack animals, and so
you gravitate towards that. That's why you have your buddies, and that's why
the women have their core girlfriends and they hang out with is act. It's
good to have that and it's fun and there's nothing better than that. The
uh, yeah, it's funny. I wonder how often you're gonna see Tom
Brady on a sideline for a team this year. You know, I know
he's got the Fox deal or whatever. He's five million dollars to go into
the booth. I think Tom Brady's very smart. I think Tom knows that
he isn't ready to do that yet. I wonder so I think he's couldn't
take a season to train himself, like that guy's gonna work out work everybody,
right. Yeah, we know that he's gonna watch more film, he's
gonna learn everything. He's gonna do it, and I think he'll probably be
excellent when he gets in there. But he delayed it on purpose. I
thought they may find a way to do it as a three man booth too,
because they just picked up they just signed Julian Edelman too. Yeah,
so you get croncked down on the field doing the Sarah Goosa, get the
two guys up in the booth. One guy that would would actually really like.
First of all, there's nothing more hilarious than freaking ron Yeah, there's
nothing. He is one of the funniest guys you'll ever listen to. If
you haven't listened to him, you've gotta listen to He could absolutely play that.
Sarah goos Roll totally did it, but that was a he's a dopey
dude, yeah, because but there were times like where I saw him on
Fox and it was awful. Yeah, because he's dopey dude. Like bad,
He's dopey dude. Okay, what's happening here? But yet there's some
why there's a likability about him, right, there's a huge likability. It's
because he's dopey dude. Yes, because it is in Western New York.
Oh. In one moment, he is the epitome of a star, and
the next moment he is the epitome of an absolute idiot. Yes, he's
a frat boy and he's funny in both instances. Yeah, but you look
at it and you're like, wow, he doesn't know better. That's just
him. When you when you come up on a situation, did you ever
pity somebody and go ahad they just don't know better? Oh? Sure,
yeah, absolutely, I mean there's got to be some I mean, look,
police officers are human affric so there's got to be some stuff. Yeah.
Yeah, you have to have some empathy and some compassion, and you
look at people's circumstances, right, and you know, we've been putting a
lot of the attempt to identifies out for larcenies and things like that, and
you know, we always see the comments of people, well, they're just
trying to support their family. And if I don't know a deputy or an
officer that if they found somebody who was stealing to feed their family, that
wouldn't make some kind of fundraiser go to the union, would ever get money
to help those people? Right? It just but that never gets publicity.
I don't know that it should be, Honestly, I'd rather I always like
when I find things out like that, it just makes me respect the person
more, you know, the person that has to dain name on every field
and every town. I don't. Yeah, no, but I mean but
you do too. You support things that people have no idea. Yeah,
yeah, And I always think that that's an amazing When I learned that about
people, it just tells you a lot about them. I didn't know that
with officers. Yeah, you would try to help. Yeah, you see
him every once in a while, we set on social media in all different
places. It's a kid has their bike stolen and the local police department raises
money to go back and they give him a bike, and you know,
they tried it sometimes try to turn into a PR thing, but the actual
police they don't do that. They just they're doing it because I don't know
that it's a bad idea these days, it's a great idea. It's a
hard self for people who are humble and don't want the spotlight. Play a
basketball with the kids or street hockey. Right. Well, the other thing
is that if you intentionally do something for PR, it never works. Absolutely,
it never works because it's not genuine. It's not that genuine, sincere
thing you do. You know what we do and what police officers and other
people in the community do all the time is you do it just to do
it because it's the right thing to do. I mean, you know,
just candily. You know, I had a circumstance with the Metastatic Mafia Bill's
training camp. You know, Jennifer Lukey came to me just out of a
whim and said, hey, can you help this out? They just want
a gear, And I was like, yeah, I didn't I didn't intend
to tell anybody about it, and I just did it. And then we
got him to meet Josh. Yeah, and I didn't do it because of
anything other than these women are wonderful, phenomenal women under really horrendous circumstances,
and and it was like, if I can make them smile and have a
great day, who wouldn't do that? I mean, I'm just blessed and
fortunate that I could actually help them, and Jennifer knew me to make it
happen. I didn't. I'm not looking for anything. I just their smiles,
they're hugs, they're you know, all that is what it's all about.
Now, back a great movie trope in the eighties when a hot chick
up pulled over would be that she unblut unbuttoned a few all right, and
then did that stuff? Ever? Did you ever witness that? I'm not
saying I would. I would advise you, as your attorney not to answer
that question. Have you ever heard of it? Okay? Have have you?
Do you know of anyone that allegedly Yeah, there's tons of stories where
you know, someone walks up and there's a shirt that may be undone a
little bit. Yeah, you walk back up with the ticket, it's buttoned
up to their chin. They're upset. Yes, yeah, I mean people
you see you did the tears ever work. I've known guys who have cried,
oh yeah, there, it all depends, right and again, when
you do this job, you as the head of the ticket, go here,
wipe your two not with body dam when for a living, when you'd
work with people so much and good bad, the worst of times, you
really get to learn how to read people and you can tell if it's genuine
or if it's not genuine. I mean, one of one of my favorite
stories of all time is I pulled the lady over for she was flying down
the road thirty over the speed limit. I stopped her and you could see
she's sweating and she's just shaking, and like, are you okay? She
was no, I got a poop and I said have a good night.
Then I walked away took off. Okay, maybe she was lying, it
didn't look like it. You make me laugh, you're not getting a ticket.
I've heard that if you make the cop laugh, yeah, you're human
and it's well right. I mean, I was flying down four ninety once
got pulled over by a state troop senior set you got the ticket and I
and I said to him, I'm on my way home for an emergency thing.
And he said, find follow me, and we got home and help
me, help me out. And I think I was yelling. He goes,
don't yell at me. I said, I'm sorry, I'm I'm like,
on, i gotta go. I'm not yelling at you. I'm yelling,
Goes, Okay, just tell me what's happening. I will help you.
And it was right, absolutely, because that's the bottom line. People
take this job to help people. Yes, and even the speeding ticket right
like that gets a bad rap because it's like, oh, I'm in a
hurry, and you all hear the there's a quota, you gotta Quotas are
illegal. There are no quotas. Yeah, that's true. Although the county
does count on the revenue. I'm sure in the state, I'm sure they
do well. Yeah, and and there's a certain budget in every yeah,
you know, municipality and state that accounts for that. So I mean,
yeah, but quotas are not proper. Just wanted on record. I didn't
say that. He did not. He did not. He did not.
He did not. What's the most ridiculous thing you have heard from buddy?
You're just like, are you kidding me right now? Or you've heard others
share with you that you've heard. You can't. That's a tough one.
I mean, I can't even tell you the amount of people who said they
were going to have my job? Do you know who I am? And
the answer is always know my kid? Uh yeah, I can't even think
of who says do you know who I am? That's the most ridiculous thing
I've ever heard. So I'll tell you when I when I first started,
right, we talked about how I got sent over here in the PA towns,
and it was always something you'd be told as a new deputy. Right.
You never know when you go to someone's house, they may ask you
to take your shoes off, right, And it's why So without a doubt,
we went to an alarm one night and it was in a local business
that I won't mention, But the first thing that the person says is,
hey, you gotta take your shoes off, like they're maybe a burglar in
your building. Yeah, but you gotta take your shoes off. We just
had our floors done. I'm not I'm not taking my boots off. It's
a safety thing, all right. Well, don't worry about it then,
Like you're okay with the burglar being in He's like, I just got new
floors. Okay, we'll stand out here and let us know if you see
anything that's insane. Yeah, that's insane. Now. I did see a
CBS news piece that said when they tested people's shoes, because that becomes a
big date debate. They find lead on on your soult of your shoes,
that's coming into your house. But most people was the debate shoes on,
shoes off. One guy has you put on slippers, somebody else goes.
I would never want people to be uncomfortable in my house. If they want
rope, take your shirt, booty covers, why don't they offer you like
a booty cover then to walk across the floor right Like, yeah, you're
like your spectrum. Yeah, spectrum always does that too. I used to
go, don't worry about it, man, you're not gonna make You're gonna
make the house cleaner. But keeping those on your feet. We had a
person, same thing, burglary in the house, burglary alarm. We get
there and we have a canine in the area, so of course the dog
can search the house better than weekend and faster. Yeah, and my partner
brings the dog up and the woman goes, whooa, whoa, whoa,
You're not bringing that in my house. And he's like, what do you
mean? She goes, what if it has fleas? If that thing shits
on my couch, He goes, ma'am, that dog's better taking care of
than any of us. Yeah, right, like the money spent on those
dogs. Yeah, it was hilariously what if it has fleas? All right,
Well, take a moment. When we come back, we'll do one
more set. The question is, so New York State is adding a dollar
tax to cigarettes, I believe September fourth. I don't know what that'll make
the cost, the final cost, and I think a lot a lot of
that depends on where you are, and I think they're more expensive downstate.
But my question is does that sort of stuff work? And do things like
the clickt or ticket actually work? Do we see that? Do those billboards
work? I alwish thought it was kind of a bullshit thing. I apologize,
I'm sorry, but I just always thought that was I have another message
that I think that the police and everybody should be behind. No, I'm
serious, can't wait to hear that. I will tell you one I'm serious.
He drives the blue Saturn when you pull it out. God, I
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You know it does a buffalo coming right out of look out charge New York
State for a while, and I think it was more of the state thing.
Used to have those clickt or ticket right to remind you to put the
seatbelt on. And I think it's important, like with the parents and stuff.
And by the way, one thing that the sheriffs do do that I
don't know if uh people that they do is the uh if you have a
baby getting the car seat in, it's an Olympic event. It used to
be. They make them easier. Now they have the hooks available. They
do all that, but to have it checked by right the sheriffs. You
can go there and have it checked to make sure it's improperly apartment. Yeah,
yeah, I think that's a great thing. We have certified uh what
is it called seat belt installation technicians, so they attend to I believe it's
a week long class because you have to learn every manufacturer. Holy and they
expect me to put that on a bench in by my I mean it's those
were and I think it's gotten way easier now. Like I said, in
the in newer cars, they have more hooks and things for you to do.
But I mean I remember I was practically putting my foot in kneeling on
it. If it'll hold me, it'll hold down putting your older kid out
there, so you know. Yeah, but the thing is like the little
or the kid is the more shit you got. It's like you're traveling.
It's you need a team of people. You got strollers and seats and carriers,
and they're like, you know, eight pounds, come on. But
that that is one thing. So the clicking or ticket did that was that
effective? Yeah? I think any any program that you put it out and
remind people is effective. There's still assholes who don't wear seat belts. I
know that. Yeah, and that's the thing. Well, well think back,
look, I mean think back when we were growing up. Yeah,
nobody wore seat belts. Nobody warres seat belts, so the click didn't even
have them. Really, the clicking, the clicking or ticket was an educational
thing. And I mean in the way that the way the technology and the
seatbelt and the harness and all that, I mean that saves live. So
that was more of getting over stupidity, yes, for years of just not
knowing to make our generation more knowledgeable about it because our parents didn't know about
it. It's just I mean think that we didn't have that lot. Yes,
my kids don't know any better right now, my kids get in the
car, it's the first thing. Yes, I do the same thing now.
So I think it was affective because I do it regularly. I don't
even think about it, and I do it the best one. When Ford
had those ones that would go up automat automatically, didn't they have that was
an issue. Yeah, they got sued for that. Yeah. Yeah,
and the Temple had the Temple that first because I remember my college roommates would
always come from yeah back at Yeah, but so, but I thought they
used to have things where they were checking for your seatbelt too. That were
like almost clicking or tickets stops, I thought checkpoints, Yeah, checkpoints.
So typically what you'll have is you'll have somebody uh a little bit down the
road watching all the cars go by, and they'll call out red car license
whatever, they pull up to all the officers standing there and you have them
pull over and issue them their citation. But and again that's all for a
reason, right as the people who do go to the crash, as the
people who do see the body ejected and up in the trees or what have,
your seat belts do save lives and all these laws. And that's what
I always tell these kids when we go to the schools and we're talking about
drivers safety or anything like. All these laws are there for a reason,
right. Stop signs are there because they've had so many crashes, and these
certain intersections, same thing with red lights, all that stuff, they're there
because they've had so many crashes. And speed limits are there because they've had
so many fatal crashes. Seat belt all that it comes from bad situations that
they say you have to not all right, So the new thing I want,
I want some reminders to check your tire pressure. I think it's the
leading cause of accidents. It doesn't underinflated tires, And I think people don't
pay enough attention. And I think sometimes I love walking through parking lots and
I see like tires and I'll go, how the fuck are you driving?
I mean, it's smooth, it looks like a Nascar tire. I go,
how is this possible? Why aren't they getting pulled over? Because they're
dangerous? So they do they do? You have to have a certain amount
of tread on your tire. Yeah, there's a test part and all that.
Yeah, well, Lincoln's Head's gotta not be able to see. So
what I thought you were going to say after you mentioned that was, you
know, like on your license plate, they have that code, right,
they gives you the registration, so they have the technology that as the you're
coming towards that the police can identify whether you're register or not register or just
by driving. Well, they should also have something like that for tires.
So when you get your tires done, is they put it on there,
it tells you what it is and so then boom you can get it.
I like, they can check them. Yeah, because I do think that
that's the one of the leading causes of accidents is under inflated tires. I
just don't think people are aware of it. So if clicking or ticket worked,
which I always hated, but I agree. And there are times like
if I if I didn't have to wear a seatbelt, I probably wouldn't,
to be honest with you, which is terrible, terrible. I've been in
car accidents and seatbelts have saved my life. They also hurt my neck and
some muscles and things that I want to be in physical therapy for. But
you're right, but you're alive. I'm alive, and that's a really good
thing. And I would say that the technology. We watched a horrific crash
in NASCAR. This car flipped twelve times and they walked away. I know,
it's amazing. You gotta go back and watch this thing. Only I
must have watched it eighteen times because the announcers go, that thing barreled ten
times ago, bullshit, And then they had it and I counted. I
sat here and I counted. I counted with Kevin. I counted at home
when I was watching it. But that technology has come to the consumer and
these cars are built now to withstand unfortunately a lot, and you never know
right, you never know, and it's a privilege to drive, and we
want you to be alive. So the clicker ticket worked. We need to
do something about these tires. That's my thing, absolutely. And have you
seen that meme that's going around where it shows the dashboard and it's the tire
pressure and the person says, no matter how hard I try, I can't
get it two hundred percent. It's like they all say, ninety nine.
See see that's an idiot. These are people who should just have their license
taken away. We should not need them on the road. And then I
always love that winter. Like I never understood how you don't find the uh
no, the pressure on your it says it right there, dude, Okay,
I gotta I gotta admit to something. I am the worst freaking person.
I have the damn indicators in my on my dashboard that come up and
you know it turns red when it's below her it should be Yeah, and
I'll drive to the point where when I finally get gas, I'll like the
third time after I finally put it in. Yeah. Sometimes sometimes it's it's
atmospheric conditions, like you start warrant driving and the tires warm up and you'll
see your pressure go up a little bit, so you're you're okay. So
sometimes it's you know, it may be it may it may be that,
but it is a good indicator to check that stuff. I always think your
tires are I mean, it's all between you and the road man. That's
you get that first cold spell there every year, and yeah, devitably one
of those dots comes out and you just go check it and check it out.
That's all. That's all my thing I want. I would like to
I'm gonna divise a campaign. There you go, and this goes back to
what we were talking about earlier. But it's all about teaching people that.
Yes, and now you got to teach them make sure you check your tire
press. I say that to my kids all the time. I used to
you know how I really learned about that pressure. I was broke. I
used to go to salvage arts and buy tires. They never matched. They
were never all the same brand. They were all the same size tire to
put on my ship box that I was driving, and they had great tread
and they would pass inspection, but they were never the same brand at all.
You had all different ones, but I would get them off res and
they sold them for like fifteen bucks to tire at the time, or maybe
ten I don't remember. But you were going in, dude, there's there's
a business right there. Tell Jordan that, hey, you started his own
business. That's yeah. I used to go to the salvage arts and that's
a that's actually a good idea, KIDNT me. Yeah, because I never
had matched thrown them up online to an online Wait, we should stop talking
about this. But see, now here's the other thing. Like when I
went there, this is where I was going with this that with the price
of cigarettes going up a dollar, right, and they did this whole news
story and one guy goes, hey, man, I was a packet day
smoker and when the price got so high, I quit. And I go,
I don't think that ship works. I don't think raising the price of
it works. I really don't. And when you talk about education, because
I think there's so many ways now to go underground. There's reservations, there's
I mean, there's black market cigarette there is. It's got to be out
there, I'm sure. So I don't know that it stops this shit.
I think it gives people to go an alternative way. But you know what
I do think works is when they start playing these PSAs at the beginning of
the year every year. This is the I'm married to watch these, I
have to turn the channel or somebody's missing half their face. I go,
fuck it, I'm never smoking, never doing it. They'll never do work.
Yes, that. So when my daughter was younger, those would start
coming on, we'd be sitting at home watching TV and she would just cover
her face and be so grossed out. Yea, by and and that.
I mean it works that absolutely older kids. So my daughter's twenty now,
okay, but yeah, and that kid must have never got away with shit.
Yeah, or any dudes that came to the house. She was a
hockey player, she could beat she could hold her own. I'm sure.
But I'm just saying, like, even God like because he said you,
I can read people like, oh man, I wouldn't have got away with
anything. It's funny. The refs used to call it the ponytail rule,
and she would get in front, she would getting away with things, and
the ref would escape by and go ponytail rule. She's one of the tougher
ones out there too. I remember, really wow, but these this stuff.
I mean it freaks you out absolutely well. The one I do remember
now, I remember a seatbelt thing, and I don't think they do this
anymore. They it was almost like a roller coaster ride. It was a
little thing and it would ten miles an hour, and you would it would
slam into a barrier. Do you remember this? They would bring it out.
I went to such a small school. We had the f f FA
Future Farmers of America and we had a big festival every October. It was
a whole weekend. It was great because you got the day off. We
all competed in like field day events. It was called agg Day, and
uh, you could go buy like this is how redneck this town was.
You could go buy a square in a fenced off field, right. You
would pay five dollars for whatever square and if the cow shit in your square,
you won the pie chip Bingo's cow chip Bingo. Do you did they
have this out? And no, no, of course, but I'm cultured,
so yeah, so we so we had all that, and then I
remember it was the thing where they slammed you. I mean, you hit
it ten miles. People don't realize how fast that is. Troopers have the
one that spins. I think, what is that? So it's a it's
a trailer that they pull up and they don't I don't think they don't put
people in, but they'll put it like a crash down the end. Yeah,
it's the simulates a rollover so you actually see whatever. Oh yeah,
well they used to take They have the one where you can tell where you're
texting and it's a simulator what you're doing and it crashes as a simulator like
a race simulator. Yeah, oh I haven't seen that. Oh that's a
great idea because those things I think are I mean, I always joke like
technology is so great in cars now, and some of these cars put the
focus back where it should be on driving, because driving becomes the secondary activity
as we check our email and answer our calls. And now you know,
with technology, you can do it right through your phone. You can say,
hey, read me my messages or whatever, which makes it a lot
easier. It's still, I think a little bit distracting, but no more
distracting than a nagging woman yelling at you on your way home. I think
every one of us at this table, at some point in our lives have
been there and it's very distracting. Nope, never never had I've had I've
I've had him jump about of cars it times. I'm quiet on this one.
I mean that's distracting. That is distracting. It was a jump when
it with an arm help. No, no, no, that's why our
backdoors don't open only from the outside, can't. Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, oh I've never even thought of that. Sure trying to run away
escape? Yeah the way the dollar tax on the cigarettes is also a revenue
grab. I know, I guess that's the only thing. Look, it's
for the lazy. They do it for the people that want to continue smoking.
They're too lazy to go to the reservation. Right, That's what it
boils down. You got the reservation, you got all these other ways of
doing it. And I go, if you really truly want to stop,
run these ads all the time. I only see him at the beginning of
the year and maybe midway in the year. Run that during football. I
think you're gonna save people quickly, right, all that stuff. Well,
they used to also take out the d W I rex do they still do
that to the schools? Any car that you would see it, and it's
usually right before prom Yeah, you want to mind all the kids that are
going out to PRIM and they're gonna party and whatnot. You want to show
them what it's like. And I mean they do the full simulation. They
bring the rack they have, the drama team will go out and they'll get
all painted up and there's a simulated dead person that reads a poem to the
parent. We did one in the Churchville I think, and the girl was
in the back of the hearse and she was reading a poem to like her
family. Oh my god. Brutal, you know. And it's especially if
you're someone who's ever been through one of those, like it's like PTSD all
over again. You're said there, you're recalling all the scenes that you've been
through for them. Some people left there and I need a drink. I
mean, it's a lot that's heavy. Hey, look, drink all you
want. If uber Uber is the greatest thing, right, we have it
now, let's not be stupid. And that's the hardest thing. We with
tech Kevin and the tip people are still making mistakes, you know, you
know, yeah, we get. The thing is with that is you just
never know, never never know. And that's the bad part. Oh,
I thought you were gonna say something. I remember when I was at Alfred,
one of the troopers came in for the student council and they took somebody
who's over twenty one on the radio. They had him drink. They had
a girl who weighed like a hundred pounds, you know, petite. They
had a guy, and they had a big guy and a small guy,
and they measured your blood alcohol content, and whether you were a girl or
a heavier guy, it was like essentially the same because we all had the
same amount of blood, nerves, bodies. So BAC is alcohol. Because
I always thought when you buy generic drugs, and it's the same for ever,
you know generic, whether it be a thailand on or whatever, they
go take two for adult. I well, what about the four foot eleven
woman and the six foot seven guy. Can't be the fucking saved. But
I guess it is that makes sense. Well, I mean, I think
it depends, but your blood is close enough, it's close enough that you
should all follow the same procedure. The big one for drinking is the myth
of on an empty stomach. Yeah it's not a myth, that's true,
Okay, because you're I don't want to totally nerd out on you here,
but we used to teach this, but the if you have food in your
stomach, your stomach holds the alcohol. Right, there's a valve that closes
to keep the alcohol in your stomach. If you don't, it gets into
your intestines, and your intestines are more surface area and we'll absorb the alcohol
faster. So that's how that works. Gets into your blood streaming a lot
quicker. Yeah, that's it. I'll volunteer the next time you want to
come out to drinking tests, volunteer my liver. That is how we teach
the young recruits. As we bring people in and we have them drink and
we haven't eat a little bit. We have got a free Saturday coming up.
Sometimes they put you through all the tests so they can see how you
react when you're so wait, how do you volunteer to be one of the
people that does the test? And then do you take them home safely?
Yes, we make sure that we dump you in an uber and no it's
good luck and they play over five minutes letter. It is very monitored.
We make sure that you don't get too intoxicated. But yeah, that's how
you learn. Well, what a great thing for the citizen who thinks,
hey, man, point oh eight is really low and I'm fine. How
many people have I used to love this one because I grew up outside Woodstock.
I drive better when i'm high, man, I'm so much better when
I'm high and I go we And that's that's got to be a real challenge
now with the legality in New York City. Can't get a ship together.
So I don't know how prevalent it is, except that you can't buy it,
is my point as readily as but it is legal. Got to go
to the reservation. When you get cheap cigarettes. Well, that one's stuff
too, because you still can't drive under the end of no, you can
with that testing and you know, maybe you have a better idea now,
but you know it stays in your system longer. Yes, alcohol stays in
your system for a matter of hours. From what I thought, the law
was that if you from the time you inhale with marijuana or ingest it or
whatever the drug is other than alcohol, you are deemed intoxicated for the next
sixty eight hours. Is that an accurate I think that's the law. I
think that's the law in the books only because the guys who wrote the law
like to drink and they didn't do other stuff. And I thought that was
why. But I maybe getting bad information or saying bad information. On one,
I would just say this, if you get high, don't drive whatever
you're gonna do, and don't get behind the wheel. Add to the other
part that you were talking about, right, it's you put people through the
field sobriety tests and the funny parts when they're always like, oh, I
can't do that sober right number one yourself? Number one? Hey man,
I got bad angles? Yeah yeah, yeah. First of all, I've
never enabled to say the alphabet backwards period. I can't say the alphabet ackwards.
I don't think I can't either. I can't either. I mean I
had one time I got pulled over and the officer said, can you say
the alphabet backwards? And I said no. He's like why, He's like
why not? And I'm like, I've never been able to. I mean,
I wasn't intoxicated. I'm like, I can't. I can say it
four words, but I can't. I mention that worked in your favorite honestly,
because if you're drunk, you're like, all right, find I like,
how there there's the key right there again? Right, So for me,
it was always just do the alphabet started a go to Z, but
don't sing because everybody can sing it. Yeah, And actually a lot of
people when you have you can't sing it. You stop and you're like,
hey, yeah right, but yeah, I mean if you can't do that,
now we're talking about something, right, because kids can do it.
If you you've done it your whole life. If you're that intoxicated where you
can't say A B, C, D eat like all right, then it's
just simple, simple things like that for me. But I'm just one person.
And then they throw the quadratic equations. Actually they really just mess your
world up. Let me just one other theory. Can we tell a lot
about a community by looking at their grocery store or Walmart parking lot and seeing
how many assholes leave the carts and don't put them in the corral. Can
we tell a lot about that community just from that, Like I can tell
a good community if all the carts go back in that corral. I go,
this is a nice place I can live here. I like this.
If I see and I'm pulling into a parking space, and I don't see
the half cart that's in there. I'm pissed. And this is a shitty
community. Would you agree? Yeah, I always put my cart back.
No, I know, I'm sure you do so this will drive my wife
nuts. But when I fly, my pet peeve is the people who just
stuff their stuff up up above. Yeah. Right, It's like if this
is my row, this is my seat, that's my overhead, right,
why are you just putting your stuff in over hae? That and the ones
that drive drives me insane. I hate to say that. When I put
my stuff up there, I actually close it. Yeah, I close it,
and if somebody stuff is there, I'll ask the person that's like in
the row, is that your stuff? And if they say yeah, I
leave it. But if it's not, I take it out. You do,
because that's my that's my bin. See I feel better about No,
I don't think for the seat. I get the bin ahead of my head.
You know who I am. I've never never said that. I've never
taken somebody's luggage. I love that bass fucking love that I do. That's
a great move. I And then when I'm done it's there, I just
close it. Give me your one last theory, your police hawks. Oh
well, this has been fun, a good day. No, no,
no, this is a great one. Have you ever seen anybody with a
bird flying at them? They fucking lose their ship, people lose everything.
And I got this from my son being attacked by seagulls on a beach in
Clearwater, Florida, when he was eating a sandwich. They came down and
bit his thumb. Right, He's screaming, he's running around and when I'm
trying to gather shit up now because now we gotta leave because he's crying because
he got bit and everything's sands and everything. But I go nobody, nobody,
I don't care who you are, can have a bird flying at you
and not hit the deck or do something or run or drop their gun or
whatever it is. So I'm saying that you need to have like the falcons,
like in the old days where they have the hooded falcon. You just
bring that guy out and if we got some money and there's something bag going
on, you just get them set up and just fly that fucking bird at
him and then boom. I think standoffs end. I think we got I
think I think it's a great move. Until the guy plays duck hunt.
I know I can't, but let him shoot one of those, then you
get the other one to come in the other direction. I actually work with
a guy who does. He's a falconer. He's a falconer. Don't mean
we're getting closer part of the Sheriff's department. Do they use them? I
don't think so, God damn it. They gotta use them for that now.
Yeah, but the drones don't. I mean, the drone is just
taking pictures unless you can drop something. I don't know, but I like
I like the idea of just an animal just flying at you. People freak
the fuck out. They can't handle it. It's in the car exactly,
yeah, exactly, Yes, that's right. Yeah. Or you ever see
somebody walk through a s and you don't see them like, you don't know
they walk through what they look like. They're insane, picking up their face
doing this. Yeah. So what Bill's talking about is that, you know
the redirection, right, you want to distract him, to redirect them to
get that going. That's the and my cousin, Jason, he's I was
on the boat with him today, is that he is he was a falcon
He trained falcons and did all that. He was at the house, be
we gotta grab him. Oh, I didn't know he trained falcons. Yeah,
he was on He worked out in Montana on on like big farms and
that's what held do falcons and they would run off the wolves, wolves and
all that stuff. Yeah, so what does this guy do with the falcons?
But for what for farms? And I'm not one hundred percent they're running
off wolves. They could go after criminals. I'm telling you now. See
what we gotta do is put the two together and teach them to take down
drones because if you have drones where they're not supposed to be, Yeah,
that would be nice. Somebody's spying money in there? How much? Are
there a lot of complaints for drones over areas that they shouldn't be Oh yeah
really just from citizens going hate someone spying on me they got a drone up
there. So drones are are a hot topic, right, and people get
them for Christmas all that stuff, but they don't realize there's a lot of
rules to drones, right. USA regulates all that stuff, and there's certain
areas that you cannot fly. You can't fly anywhere near the airport, I
think the Red Wings Stadium. I don't think because that's in the flight path.
But people just don't know and they and there's privacy laws too in terms
of what you can see, what you can which you can peer into,
all kinds of stuff. Yeah, there's Man, if you're a fifteen year
old with a drone and you got a hot neighbor, that I mean,
you know, that's you always wanted to see. It brings a whole another
definition of peeping town. Does that? I never even thought of that.
I never thought of that. Oh yeah, wow, very cool. Well
I appreciate you coming in. It's been a fun. Yeah, I've learned
some things tonight. I think hawks are a great idea and they clicking of
taking things all works. People learned, but now we gotta do they inflate
the tires? Yeah, and stop pitching about your kids playing time. That
would amazing for Greg Connors. That would be Deputy Hurley for Greg Connor's future
owner of the Buffalo. Bills down to fifty three man roster Tuesday at four
go bills for Kevin Muir, who was the uber driver five star last night.
Totally. I'm Bill Murram. We'll see you tomorrow BA