According a Stegment Dennison from yesterday, it appears that the Reds games on Friday
and Saturday night will be about forty thousand strong. I think SRO is only
available. Sunday is about thirty thousand. Other words, once again, the
Reds are going to sell out Great American Ballpark, when earlier this year they
had the lowest attendance ever. And then we're in a ten game stretch starting
tomorrow. Then after that they go to Milwaukee for three, then they get
played the Dodgers and Cubs. So by the first part of August, we're
gonna know if this is real or Memorrex coming up later as Sean Miller,
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Show, and mo when I look ahead, what lies ahead? How excited
should we be? I monitor the National broadcast that it appears Elie de la
Cruz. According to the National pundits should have been in the All Star Game.
Yes, maybe as a starter or at least as home run derby.
And at this point, I think the Reds since he came up on June
sixth, which is d Day, Della Cruise Day, our twenty three and
eight and that second best record in all of baseball. So looking forward to
the second half of the Reds baseball season, what lights up the corners of
your mind a lot? I start with the search for starting pitching, because
they need better starting pitching in the second half of the season. But I
think it's going to be really fun to watch what I think is going to
be a two team race. I don't think either the Reds or Brewers can
run away from each other. Obviously, there's a huge series you just mentioned
it that starts tomorrow. I think we are really in for a fun,
you know whatever. It is ten eleven week dash to the postseason. And
I think more than anything though, just watching this team handle the Pennant race,
watching this team handle the national attention they're getting. I got a call
today from a guy from Yahoo Sports who's going to be doing a big story
on not just the Reds but sports and Cincinnati and the dramatic one eighty we've
done here as a city. This is a team. If you watch the
All Star Game the other night on a couple of different occasions, unprompted,
Joe Davis and John Smoltz talked about the Cincinnati Reds and deservedly so. So
can they live up to the hype? Can they live up to the billing?
And can they get the starting pitching help they need? Looking at it
from thirty thousand feet FC Cincinnati a couple of three years ago, last place
they stunk. Now they're the best team anamalis. So we got Messy.
Messi's coming here in about four weeks around August at twenty third or so.
I think Messi that'll be bigger than maybe Taylor Swift. I might ask you
who's bigger Messi or Taylor Swift. I think globally, I might say Messy.
I think I'd say Messy. I think without question, he's you thought
Paley was big in the nineteen seventies. Yeah, just do another love.
I think Messi is the sports is all of sports, biggest global star right
now, and he's gonna play at TQL. Yeah. It's because again the
West tennis Cincinnatis, that possible number one might not be possible to get a
ticket. It's not possible. FC was like at the bottom, now at
the top with MESSI. Secondly, the Bengals two or three years ago were
a laughing stock, and all of a sudden they're the favorite in some minds
to win the Super Bowl and they're exciting. Complaint when I whenever I watched
national shows as a stand up of Joe Burrow behind the host saying Joe Burrow
is either one, two or three the best quarterback on all the football offensive
linemen want to come here the block which never happened before. It didn't happen,
even the Boomer Glory years, it didn't happen. And then the Reds
who lost a hundred I said a hundred games. I said a hundred games
when last year October of last year was seven eight months ago, they were
a hundred games. Now we're talking about the World Series. So no city
has done what Cincinnati has done. And on top of it, Taylor Swift,
and on top of it the tennis coming, and on top of it
the Kroger Classic. Cincinnati is the place to be. Why actually break it
down by team, What the hell happened? And you know you add to
it now we have two major conferences in town with the Big Twelve and obviously
Sean Miller's basketball program in the Big East. Yeah, we we deserve this.
We as fans, we as a city, we deserve this. I'm
you know, I don't know if there's any one common denominator other than good
players. I mean, that's the Bengals have a bunch of good players.
The Reds have a bunch of good players. FC Cincinnati has a bunch of
good players. You know, you start with Joe Burrow. And I don't
know that it's that surprising that the Bengals by now are bona fide Super Bowl
contenders. I think what is surprising is the fact that in a second and
third year they appeared in back to back AFC Championship games and came this close
to winning a Super Bowl. I think it's interesting though the Bengals go into
this season there's maybe not a super Bowl or bust feel, but I think
there is a sense of Okay, they've come close. It's it's kind of
time to go get one, and so how do they handle that. I
think that's going to be really interesting. But they are on the shortlist of
teams that I think coming into the season you talk about being bona fide championship
contenders. FC Cincinnati might be the best team in the league. Last night,
in what felt like a rather hum drum sort of slog that they were
going to lose, they end up not only surviving and getting a point,
they get three on the road. That is a really good and well coached
team and well put together team. And you know, we've seen the US
men's national team representation as it relates to FC Cincinnati soccer postseason's kind of random.
But they're in the US Open Cup semi finals. They have a chance
to get the Supporters Shield, which is what you get for having the most
points in the regular season. They're going to be a playoff team with a
chance to win a title. And they played in the league's Cup here in
a couple of weeks, and they've got the captain of the MLS All Star
Team, which next week is going to play a team from the English Premier
League. So a lot of credit to Pat Noonton and Chris Albright for what
they've done there. The Reds, Willie and my wildest dreams. I never
thought we'd be talking about the Reds being in first place coming out of the
All Star Break. I think we all believed they had a chance to be
better than last year, because you couldn't be any worse. And I think
we all believed that with the collection of talent that they have been accumulating,
that you could start to envision the Reds being pretty good next year and maybe
really good in two years. They've got a chance to play in October,
which would be one of the most remarkable and I know that the postseason's kind
of watered down. It's there's six playoff teams per league. This would be
one of the most remarkable single season turnarounds in baseball history. Maybe not the
greatest, but certainly one of them. We've had worse to first teams before.
But it's not just that Willie and mid May they were seven or eight
games under five hundred, and now it feels like, not only can they
not lose, but different hero emerged is every night. And I think the
exciting thing about this is we're talking about the Reds entering an age where they
should be relevant and able to compete every single year with these young players,
they have and more than anything, the Reds are cool. Like read what
people are writing about the Reds around the country and Elie Dela Cruz and the
way in which they play and the brand of baseball they play. The Cincinnati
Reds are cool. And then you add to it all the other stuff.
It's it's a really fun time. I think it's a really fun time to
live in Cincinnati. It's a really fun time to be a Cincinnati sports And
the Reds official told me we don't have to make a deal for a starting
pitcher. By the way, the Reds have the third worst starting pitcher pitching
ERA and all of baseball. They're terrible. They got the Nickolodolo coming in
the next two weeks, three weeks, then they got Homer Green is hurt
constantly. I mean they think if Green shows up in pitches and if Nicolodolo
show up in pitches, that's the two aspects that we don't have to trade
in Canarcion or somebody to get a starting pitching What does most say about that,
um, Well, that strikes that strikes me as a strategy of hope.
Now, look ideally, yes, Hunter Green comes back and he's terrific.
The last six weeks, and yes, Nicolodolo comes back and he's terrific.
Now the last six weeks, are you counting on those things? No,
those Neither of those guys have pitched two full seasons. Neither guys pitch
in the big league pennant race. Now you would be getting fresh arms.
It's worth mentioning neither guy is dealing with an arm issue right now, which
I think is important to point out. But you know, I've heard,
well, they hope they're back in August? Is that August first? Is
that August thirty first? Are they they back pitching? But not necessarily effective
yet to me? And by the way, that's that's still a few weeks
away. And so I think a few things have to happen. I think
you start with Graham Ashcraft. He's back, he's healthy, and his last
two starts he's been really good. That has to continue. That absolutely has
to continue. You clearly hope you could add Green and Lodolo to the mix.
That's still a lot of youth and it's still a lot of hope.
Why not go for it? Why not go get an established arm that you
could rely on. I would love justin Verlander I would love Kate Upton bring
her, but the reality is, look, you can't do this. You
can't. You can't have spent the last two or three years yelling and screaming
that the Reds don't care about winning, and then when they have a legitimate
chance to win, it to have to give him a chance to show how
much they care about winning and give Nick Crawl an opportunity to not necessarily finish
this off, but given Nick Crawl an opportunity to show that he can make
a move like this. I think most of the decisions he has made since
he has been in his current role have been really good. He's put together
a pretty good club, and I think within the parameters of the direction the
Reds chose to go and Nick Crawl did some really good things last year and
acquiring young talent now give him a shot to make a decision that balances the
long term with the short term. But you can't complain year after year after
year that the Reds don't do what it takes to win and then not want
them to do what it takes to win now making twenty extra million dollars every
three game weekend sellout, and it's that's that's important, Willie. I talked
to Millie. I talked to somebody with the Reds during the last homestand and
he said, we're going to have money to play with because what we projected
and what we're getting those are different numbers. And so we're we're going to
operate uh in in the black from a from a from a revenue standpoint this
year. Well, okay, the Reds have always said we take the money
we get and we put it into the ball club. It's Phil cast to
Laney off the hook. I think he is off the hook in terms of
choosing to take the Reds in the direction that he chose. I wish,
and I'm sure he wishes he could go back in time. I wish the
tone too too at times about you very much. So I think I think
if you, if you pressed Phil on this and you said, okay,
if you could go back and do it all over again, what would you
have done instead of being combative and antagonistic and kind of talking down to folks
who are critici criticizing the team. I think if you would have a just
sort of understood heat's gonna come your way when you trade away good players.
B Hey, look, I know you don't like this. I know this
is tough. Trust me, what we've got coming is going to be really
good and you're gonna love it, and you know what, bear with us
and the short term if you don't, we think you're going to be back,
because that's exactly what's happened, instead of where are you gonna go?
And just the overall combative tone. I think, in terms of the direction
the Reds have chosen to go in sure fills off the hook, mainly because
they haven't deviated from the plan that they set forth a while ago. And
my biggest criticism of the Reds for years has been that they never stick to
a plan. Phil and Bob and company have stuck to the plan. I
think if they just would have said, hey, look, we trust our
plan. We want you to trust our plan. If you don't, we
get it, hopefully you're back by the time we're good again, because we
think we're going to be really good here soon. I think if that was
the case right now, Phil could do a victory lap. I think it's
hard for him to kind of do that right now, But in terms of
what he chose to do, yeah, I for me at least as of
now, he's off the hook. The big name is Michael Lorenzen. He's
an All Star from Detroit. He's got a friendly contract of like eight million
dollars. Yeah, Reds and have to pay about three of his contract.
Tigers want to deal him. They're going nowhere. Lorenzen would love to come
here. He's an outfielder, he's a starter, he's a middle reliever,
can be a closer. Wouldn't it say something if they did everything in their
power to get Michael Lorenzen back. Yeah, Michael Lorenzen was an All Star
this year because the Tigers had to have an all Star. He's not having
an All Star caliber year, but he knows how to pitch. He is
a versatile. He wouldn't be my first choice. But but I'll say this,
Michael Lorenzen is a starting pitcher for a good team. Is probably a
middle of the rotation guy, so as Tyler Malley. Now, unfortunately Tyler
Mallley just had Tommy John surgery, so he's not available to the Minnesota Twins.
But the Reds traded Tyler Malley this time a year ago. What did
they get for him? Three guys? Spencer Steer who could be the Rookie
of the Year this year. Pretty good. Christianer Carnassi owns frand so that
just goes to show. For a picture the level of Tyler Malley, the
Minnesota Twins had to give up something significant. So for a picture the caliber
of Michael Lorenzen. Yeah, you might pick up some money, but you're
gonna probably have to give up something significant. And I think you let Nick
Crawl do what a a general manager is paid to do, and that's balance
long term considerations with short term. You gotta go for it. The National
Lyue CENTU will probably not be as bad next year. You don't know year
to year what the health of your team is going to be. Windows close
more quickly than I think people realize. So I think you've got to I
think you've got to take a stab at it. And baseball's postseason is random
enough. Right now, the Atlanta Braves in the National League look unbeatable.
But how many times has the best team, the team with the best record
in the NL or the AL made the World Series? Not often? Yeah,
So I think a long suffering fan base, you gotta go for it.
All right, mo, thank you. We'll see what happens. It
all starts tomorrow. Tickets are going to be at a premium. I'm saying
the Great American Ballpark now is the place to be. I can't imagine pay
Course Stadium, but that's going to be like the preseason game. But Packers
is only about a month away. That's unbelievable. Plus we have to talk
about Lionel Messi, yes coming here along with Ronaldo. So tomorrow begins a
ten game homestand I am going on Saturday. I don't have an extra ticket.
I'm taking my daughter on Sunday, and so I do have an extra
ticket if you would, if you would like to join us. I'm thinking
about going to the game Monday, and I'm thinking about going Wednesday. Now
I'll be out of town the following weekend, so I can't go to the
Diamondback Series, but I always make the overture. This is the longest homestand
the Reds have this year. We'd love to see at the ballpark. Let
me think about it. I can't make a commune me and Crosley on the
summer Sunday at the ballpark. Can you think of anything better? Yes?
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as Ibelle and Swim. This year many issues percolating. Number one, we
have the arrest and we've scheduled an appearance by the good Sheriff of Amble County
with us tomorrow. After the three o'clock news conference, Brian Combs tells me
we may carry it live. This is the murder of Tamaya Barton Pickens,
age nine years old, and as many kind of predicted, and I had
a birdie whisper in my ear that there was a male family member who had
committed some wrongful act against someone who a robbery that one and hired these two
individuals to do what they did, believing that the robber was living in that
home in Silverton. So one thing leads to another. Guy's name is Quassam
Dixon. I can't imagine being twenty five years old with an extensive previous criminal
record. He's a hired hand and a killer who was hired by a robbery
victim to shoot up the house to send a message to the robber. And
just by terrible circumstances, the male family member decided to spend some time at
that home in Silverton where Demaya Barton Pickens, nine years old, was residing
with her grandmother. There were a total of three kids in the house and
just unlucky circumstances for her that the family member of Demaya Pickens's, one of
the boyfriends, so to speak, was himself a robber who robbed people.
And the person that was robbed hired with Sam Dixon, and the getaway driver
was Damario Williams, and the killers under a two point five million dollar bond,
and the nine year old girl there scheduling a funeral, and this reminds
me of the uncertainty of human life. I had a cop tell me that
so far this year, this happens everywhere, but the frequency is generally in
the black community. But in Indian Hill there's been about twenty two burglaries so
far this year, which are somewhat unexpected. In Indian Hill, almost everyone
has, in one sense or another, an alarm system or something in place,
and it's done in a way because some of this is happening. The
run of the mill. Burglary should go where the money is. That's why
banks are robbed, that's where the money is. Go to Indian Hill,
or go to somewhere like Villa Hills, go to rich sections of Warren County,
and that's why it happens. And what's feeling a lot of this extra
crime are illegal gangs who have come across the Southern border and they're hired out
and paid to do certain things. Much like the industrial strength shoplifting happening.
It isn't simply individuals who put a bottle of head and shoulders in their purse
and out they go. These gangs are hired to loot, to rob,
to steal, commit burglaries as a consequence of them owing the drug cartels serious
money for getting them over the southern border. And so when Indian Hill as
numerous dozens of car break ins and burglaries, something more is at stake than
the run of the mill stuff. It's because the gangs have chillions, or
they have Ecuadorans or others. They came across the southern border and to pay
off their debt they have to work for these gangs for one or two or
three years. That's why there's industrial strength shoplifting happening in the tri State,
in which shopping carts are filled up and out you go, and no one
stops anyone from anymore anyway from occurring, and a curse. It appears that
if if a Walgreens or CBS discovers that an employee is trying to film or
video or tape someone stealing or stopping someone, the employees in trouble. And
so we're living in a time of massive lawlessness that makes absolutely no sense.
The idea of a twenty five year old young man firing a couple of three
dozen shots willy nilly. Twenty eight rounds were fired out of an AK forty
seven into the home of a family living there when a male member of that
family committed a robbery against somebody else that hired Quissan Dixon, who hired than
De Mario Williams as the getaway driver to shoot up the house willy nilly,
without concern who's inside. Normally, if someone's got an ax to grind against
a male member of a family, you look up that member of the family
and deal with it. But not anymore now because of the lack of ethics
and values, because of a of a revolving door criminal justice system, individuals
go in and come out. In fact, the prosecutor in this case said
that uh, that the main the main perpetrator, Dixon is well known,
and the prosecutors said that the man, Uh, the man recruited Dixon to
go after the relative. So the victim of the robbery recruited Dixon, the
shooter, to go after the male member of the family of Demaya in order
to send a message. And prosecutors David Wood, my good friend, is
in prosecutor's office. He calls the cases in room at said that Dixon has
an atrocious history of picking up new charges while he's out on bond. So
Judge Kirk Kissinger it's a pretty damn good judge said. Dixon's bond at two
point five million dollars and he appeared in in court on crutches because as part
of the getaway there was a crash that took place, causing injuries to him
and injuries to the getaway driver, Demario Williams. And now we have a
life taken. It's an awful circumstance. And guess what's likely to get worse,
not likely to get better anytime soon. Williams, who was the getaway
driver, fled from police and crashed into a convenience store, and the coppers,
the homicide detectives Hamlet County Sheriff's Office, deserves quite a bit of credit
because within a day or two they focused, they did what they could have
find out the perpetrators. And Williams's lawyer, who who's the so called getaway
driver, argued for a low bond, stating that his client's connection to the
shooting was based upon rumor and innuendo. Prosecutors said they planned to file additional
charges against the getaway driver, including a possible felony charge of fleeing and a
looting. So while the investigation continues, the judge set his bond only fifty
thousand dollars to look at the pictures of Demaya, the cheerleader on the West
Side Panthers, a youth football cheerleading organization. She was supposed to be on
the west side of town because of certain dysfunction in her family. She just
happened to be staying for a few days in Silverton, and the city of
Silverton, which is a great community, well known to the great American,
said that our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of young Demaya
Pickens Barton as they grieve and try to make sense of this. We extend
our wholehearted support about this unimaginable difficult time. Silverton is a small, close
knit community right on the eve of on the edge of Deer Park in Madeira.
In fact, for a long time Silverton has tried to get their kids
into either Madeira Public Schools or Deer Park Public Schools because they're right now.
They hooked to as CPS, which is a failing school district. And so
for that to happen, Number one CPS since I Public School has got agree
to let Silverton go. And secondly, you have to have Madeira or deer
Park willing to accept the kids out of Silverton, which I am confident der
Park would accept. Madeira is over subscribed, be Madeira is building new buildings
for all the kids going to school in Madeira, and der Park under the
leadership of J. Phillips is kind of bursting at the seams. Also because
people want to go to a functional community. So if Demaya was residing in
Silverton, she would have to go to Cincinnati public schools, which is not
a good place to be, which is why I complement Bill Sites and other
Republicans in Columbus that are providing voucher systems so good kids can get out of
dysfunctional schools wherever they might be with a voucher if the other school will accept
them. So deer Park accepts a few, Dara accepts a few, but
they can't have one or two hundred because both school systems will be oversubscribed.
Got to build new buildings. But the lawmakers and columbers are doing their damnedest
to try to help kids who find themselves locked in terrible circumstances. And some
of these terrible circumstances are in rural areas in Adams and Brown and Highland County
also in which the school districts are completely dysfunctional and they're not succeeding whatsoever,
and it's a terrible You can't give up on kids. You can't say to
Demaya that you're nine years old. I assumes she's in the third or fourth
grade, and you're not being educated. You have to stay there, locked
in that environment. And I don't know whether I blame certain members of the
Barton family for having a member in the family who's I guess, an armed
robber robbing people. But that's a dangerous business to be in because they get
somebody killed. It's probably no more than fifteen hundreds or two thousand dollars.
And when I speak to my friends in the criminal defense bar, it is
more violent now than it's ever been in the city of Cincinnati, you know,
Mark Twain, the wise Mark Twain said, I want to be in
Cincinnati when the world ends, because Cincinnati won't find out about it for about
ten years. And Chicago, Austin, Dayton, Saint Louis, Baltimore is
there right now, in which there is completely dysfunctional schools, track meets in
the hallway, teachers get worn down, school board members don't know what to
do. And to an extent, the CPS school board members, the Mike
Mourowsky types, etc. Have good feelings in their heart. They want to
do their best. But when you have the majority of kids coming out of
dysfunctional environments in which education is not valued, those are lifestyle choices. It's
not about racism. It's about lifestyle choices that family members make that put kids
like Demaya in terrible circumstances. And then she's victimized by the behavior of a
family member of a relative who robbed some other third person who hired these hired
killers to kill or shoot up the home where where the robbers located and Tamaya
Denard Demaya of of of Silverton, who should have been on the west side
of town spending some time there in Silverton, Demaia Barton pickens, it's just
another victim of urban violence. And these things happen all over the place all
the time, whether it's Claremont County with that Dorman character who should be summarily
executed for killing those three little boys, or this murderer who's a hired hand
for money, sprayed about about three dozen bullets into the home or Demaya just
happened to find herself, just happened to be there. So Demaya Pickens is
dead and they're planning a funeral and it's sad. But right now we have
a functional police department, we have a functional sheriff's department that can find these
individuals quickly. Cincinnati has about a clearance rate of a little over fifty percent
of the homicides in the city and about seventy percent of the homicides in the
county. The perpetrators are arrested. In many big major cities the numbers twenty
percent or less. And it's going because veteran cops are leaving, and because
so many individuals don't want to become cops, it's going to become more and
more difficult. But at three o'clock today, Jack Crumley tells me we're going
to carry the news conference conducted by our sheriff Charmaine McGuffey about how this thing
developed, and if things go well, she'll be with me tomorrow at noon
to talk about the investigation in where it is at that point, it's obvious
at this point that Demarrio Williams, the so called getaway driver. They have
to prove that he had knowledge of why they went to Silverton. And right
now he's under some relatively minor charges. But if he knew that a hit
was going to take place, he participated in it. As the driver of
the vehicle. He would have had to have slowed down to put that many
bullets into that home if he watched it going on, If he knew it
was going to take place and he drove away, he's equally culpable with Dixon
and is facing aggravated murder charges. And because we have a functional prosecutor's office,
when you murder a child, you can get the death penalty. But
I'm confident in twenty five or thirty years, if the judiciary and Hamlety County
continues on the same course, about half the judges on the bench have a
different attitude about criminal justice than the other half. Likely Williams and Dixon may
get out of jail in twenty five or thirty years, But of course the
nine year old girl will not. She's dead, and this will continue on
and on for as far as the eye can see, until we separate from
American society. The killers and the murderers who perpetrate such harm in our community.
It's happening in Claremont County. It's happening in Indian Hill. When you
have a couple dozen home break ins and cars are being broken into. It's
fueled by gangs and their insatiable desire to get money, and so forewarned is
forearmed. It is sad that Demaia had to face the end of her life.
I look at this face and her cheerleader outfit. What an atrocious situation
that her life ended because a family member of her female relative had a relationship
with him and that he was an armed robber and he committed offenses that resulted
in a killer being employed to go shoot up the home that he thought the
robber was living in, and Demaiah was an unfortunate victim. All right,
let's continue after one o'clock today, we have Steve Raleigh to talk about what's
happening at beginning at four o'clock about his daughter Madison and her death and why
it happened. After two o'clock today's an expert on the movie Out with Jim
Caviezel about human and sex trafficking and more. Plus later on we have the
head basketball coach of your Savior Musketeer Sean Miller. I'm gonna ask him questions
about nil money and how we go from here. And as Moja said,
I can't think of a better time athletically and downtown to have events going on
of this character. I would note that three hundred thousand attended the concert with
Taylor Swift, along with the Reds and along with TQL Peaceful Calm. It's
a small number of individuals. Black males are generally responsible for these activities,
but black males in general are not responsible. It's the small number that calls
havoc in the black community and elsewhere that must be separated. And it's not
just about color. I refer you to the Dorman case in Claremont County and
the two dozen burglaries happening in Indian Hill because of the insatiable desire for money
and profit by these gangs, and they must be locked up permanently. Twelve
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movie is assisting many children from getting out of the circumstances in which they find
themselves. And of course, unrelated to that, as the efforts of Steve
Raleigh and Juliet at Mattie's House and the fundraiss gone. And as I speak
and begins I think at four or five o'clock today in a couple of hours,
and Steve Raleigh, welcome again at the Bill Cunningham Show. And let's
go back in time just a little bit, because Mattie's House has now become
like a symbol of parents and many others who care about the lives of their
children when they get off track, But can you talk about the last year
or two that you and Julie dealt with Maddie's difficulties and how the house that
currently exists may have assisted with that. But go back a year or two
before her death and explain what you were dealing with. Well, quite honestly,
it was something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. It went about
ten or twelve years of some issues. My daughter, unfortunately had a rather
unfortunate incident as a small girl, and she masked that pain with drugs as
she got older, and we only found out through counseling that that's what she
was doing. And so it took a long time to go through that process.
And once we were able to get her a little bit in the straight
and narrow there, we also had to deal with a dual diagnosis which she
was also bipolar, so she was dealing with an addiction and a mental illness,
and so it was a long, hard road. And I'll tell you
that as I stand here now, as I talked about it, I almost
well up because it was so tough for Julie and I to deal with.
You know, the interesting thing about Maddie's house bill is the fact that it
was my daughter Madison's idea when after about the fourth or fifth rehab, she
said, I could teach this stuff. I just need somewhere to go.
I need somewhere to hang out. I need people who understand me in the
road that I've walked, so that I can get help from other people when
I need support who understand me. And so at that point, after unfortunately
her being tired of being tired, she took her life. And that was
coming up almost five years ago. It's January seventeenth here, and so at
that Julie and I said we've got to do something, and we started Maddie's
House, which was in a two thousand square foot storefront here. In the
last couple of years, we've had three hundred thousand service hours and ten thousand
individuals in and out through a NA and it's a hangout for recovering young adults.
So it's not residential. It's worth somewhere to go because here and across
the midweston really virtually across the country, nothing like this exists. Its aftercare,
and that's what we've developed in Mattie's House. Wo we're about to move
into a giant eight thousand square foot house coming up in about six weeks.
Steve Raleigh, when you went through that process, and almost every family is
touched by either drug addiction, alcohol addiction, by polar disorder, god knows
what else. It's rare to leave it to beaver lifestyle. It's things happen
in life. And you fight in your holler and your scream, and you
say, I've had many parents call me over the years and say, my
child literally is on the street. She's twenty four years old, she's addicted,
and she comes to the house. I let her back in my house.
And after a year, after a week or two, things are missing,
she sells things. I come home from work and there's strange is living
in my own house that my daughter allowed to come into the house. I
call the police. They don't know what to do. And this is a
terrible, terrible circumstance that many families deal with. And I don't think anyone
is better situated to deal with and Steve Raleigh and Julie Lesa Raleigh, because
you two, shall we say, are extremely well connected. You're bright,
college degrees, you knew what to do. But there's many families that don't
have the connections that you two had. And with those connections and with those
influences, you still couldn't solve the problem because it overwhelmed you. What would
you say to a mom or dad listening this afternoon that says, right now,
I'm dealing with a similar thing, and I don't know whether to let
him or her my child back in my house, not let them in my
house, they leave, they destroy things in the house. That's ruined my
life. I don't have a life anymore. What advice would you give to
that person, if any Well, I'll tell you this. Each case is
individual, of course, but we went through everything you talked about, and
it was very difficult for us. We went through all of the stages of
trying to keep it hidden. We were embarrassed, we didn't let our friends
and family know. And then at some point you just say, well,
we've got to deal with this. And then we took the measures that we
took that were appropriate for Madison at the time, and we did what we
could. The bottom line to this is, obviously, it's frustrating, it's
difficult, it's overwhelming, and frankly, I'll be honest with you, there
were times Julie and I were at each other's throat. Unfortunately, during an
addiction situation. Often that person tries to side and split the two and we
realized at that point the key, at least one of them is is to
stay united. Whatever you decide to do, you have to stay united.
And that's the one piece of advice I would say that we learned over time,
and this was a time period, as I say, of about ten
or twelve years. But that's what's important here is getting the help. And
then once they get the help is to have a place like this aftercare of
Maddie's house, because there'll be somebody else who's further along in their journey and
that young person, that young adult can say, Okay, I remember where
you are. Now here's what I did, and this might help you.
And that's why this peer to peer, this community that we're creating, this
ability to not just come and have coffee. Yeah you can do that,
but maybe you want to come to a meeting and then play ping pong or
pool, or you want to take a yoga class, or maybe some life
skills because so many times there's you know, you've been in jail because of
these things and you need help with getting a job or anything like. These
are the services we're going to provide and it's all free and we're about to
open up there, as I say, in about six to eight weeks on
two acres on a beautiful bucolic setting with a pond. We just put in
a fountain in the back. You can hear it gurgling from the big deck
we just put on. And it's all happening right now and to at four
o'clock. We need everybody to tune in so we can continue these services.
Was there a sense of guilt? I have a family member dealing with a
similar circumstance, and she feels as if my parental skills are not up to
the task. She's a devout Roman Catholic that would pray, light candles,
go to novena's, say the rosiary. The prayers were not answered. Maybe
they were, but she perceives they're not. And now her child has been
absent from her house for about three months. Has no idea where that girl
is. She's about twenty five, twenty six years old. Could be in
Louisville, could be in California, could be dead. I don't know where
she is, and has trouble sleeping at night. When the phone rang,
she's hoping it's her daughter calling for help. Did you have a sense that
you failed as a father? I think there was a time of that.
I think Julie as well. We both thought what did we do wrong here?
You know, one of the things I hope to acme was, quite
honestly, Bill, is to break some of the stigma down. You know,
Julie and I have been blessed in life. We had four kids,
we have a nice life, a couple of good jobs. We've been able
to enjoy our family at a level that we thank God that we can.
And it can happen to anybody. And that's the thing that you have to
remind yourself that it's not just folks who may be at a socioeconomic level that
is not up to your part, because we're the prime example of just something
happening in the past that ended up building up to a situation now. So
yes, we have felt that before. The one thing we know is as
God fearing people, honestly, is this was a plan we don't like.
And there's a plan for everybody in life, and Julie's and mine we were
uniquely placed. Julie's a master fundraiser and I say fun fund raiser and She's
been marvelous to be able to create opportunities and with my little bit of celebrity
because of the good folks at Channel nine and being able to do this telethon
tonight at four, well, we're somewhat placed to be able to put Mattie's
house in the community. And so now we eat everybody else to support us,
and I hope that happens tonight. All right, it begins at four
o'clock on Channel nine, and I think it's great Channel nine's allowing you to
do this because if a family's not yet been touched by this, they will
be at one point. It's one thing if your son, your daughter develops
a lymphoma, develops a brain cancer, you tell people. There's some stigma
in some people's minds attached the idea that my son, my daughter has a
mental disorder that has flowed into chemical addiction. It's flowed into maybe marijuana,
maybe fentnel, maybe alcohol, whatever it might be, and then the drugs
are taken to mass to bipolar and that has a geometric effect on the personality,
the fighting, the arguing, the screaming, the the arrest, the
fact that the child is under arrest. Do you bail him out, do
you not bail him out? Do you want him to stay in jail?
Don't want them to stay in jail? And your life is consumed by this.
And I can't imagine the call that you received that Madison had killed herself
because she couldn't deal with the pain and that she was going through. She
felt trapped, I'm sure, and that was the way out of her anger.
But for all of us who have had dealt with family members, I
know at one point I had an uncle who was a long View State Mental
hospital, and as a boy, I would visit him there and it was
so heart rendering. He got out, got back in, he went in,
came out, began drinking, did this, did that, committed crimes,
went into the system, came out, and it never ended. And
I think to an extent that maybe a person in the throes of what Madison
was going through thought she wanted to save you and Julie the pain of dealing
with her life, and that's why she ended it. She loved you so
much, she wanted the pain that you had to end. Well. She
always told us she loved us. She always also said, you don't understand
me, and that's what really tripped things for us to try and get this
Maddie's House together and to your point, build these are diseases. These are
diseases that people go through, and the kids that we're helping because we're focused
on young adults, are the ones that have gone through counseling and rehab and
want to stay helping. They've for whatever reason, had problems that got them
there, but now they want to go a good path. And that's what
makes this so important. In an addition to that, for everybody else who
may not be touched by this. And I think that's a small percentage from
what I know and the stats that I've seen, but if it is true,
the reality is is something like Mattie's House and places like what we're trying
to accomplish as a template for other communities will help the community in general.
We know the epidemic of Fenton al that's going on in Ohio. You know,
Ohio has twice the national average, and we have all of these stats
to in Hamilton County and elsewhere around our area in the dry state. So
that's why we think this is so important and we're hoping for everybody's support all
right beginning at four o'clock. And what is the website for those who want
to be involved financially, giving time, whatever. What is the website to
whom we can direct the American people. Sure, it's Mhcinc Dot org.
So it's mh C I NCY dot org. So you can always give there.
And then of course we go four to eight tonight and we've got a
complete show just us from seven thirty to eight o'clock. We got some cool
celebrities, we've got some great information, and we've got a firsthand behind the
scenes look of the brand new Maddie's House coming up. Steve Rowlie, thank
you very much. And your journey and your fight today will be many in
the days and weeks and months and years ahead. And good luck to you
and Julie. Thank you very much. Thank you Bill, and I just
want to say one sentence. You have been there for us from the beginning,
and thank you so much for the support. Steve, Thank you very
much, So let's continue. One thing I did mention is that I've had
family members have been in the throes of mental health difficulties, and generally when
you have that problem, often it takes in today's life to form of alcoholism
or drug abuse or something, and that many can reach out today's we're better
off now than we've been in a very very, very long time about more
or less accepting the idea that if these people need help immediately, and if
you've not been touched by drug addiction, alcoholism or mental health, you're you're
blessed. But go to the website, get involved, and let's help these
very special people. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WLW.
Now that you've taken on that given to the penalty area, it comes
out to Obi WOMANO, who take your son? Obi? WOMANO has done
it? Woman? Oh death two to one Cincinnati. Oh about that?
Hell? Helloo, Hello, I'm broadcasting. You know I'm saying back to
back. We got Chip hard tomorrow one thirty. Justice Joe Dieters will be
here, no smoking state visit from JJ himself as Scott Slippers, some wine.
You'll be here. Wow. But my neighbor in Finnytown, now we
got I went to the to the public school. He went to the to
the Atolic school. He's rich, and we weren't allowed to play with each
other. Okay, we shouldn't play with him anyway? What are you talking
about? I know, but they we weren't allowed to play with each other
because that's the way it was. No. I called you about a couple
of saturdays ago, all my way out to Climes Market to buy some cream
horns, and you invited me to your ponderosa in Claremont County. And I
said, well, you said your wife, VICKI was like delivering a long
horn your baby or something. I said, that sounds painful for the woman
to deliver a long horn, Am I right? A wrong? Well,
what gave you the idea that they have horns when they're a baby being born?
What? What? What do you? Where did that come? What
are you? What are you inez? How the heck would you get that
through the love canal? I have no idea. I mean, for crying
out, that would be a problem right there. So when did to develop
the horns? They start developing about two months after they're born. About that?
And she bottle feeds four calves right now? What time she bought she
gets nursing at her breast or what is it? No? No, what
gave you that idea? I mean nursing? He has all these ideas that
you have no idea about the idea. So she bottle feeds. They get
about a half gallon of milk in the morning, special up calf milk.
And there's four of them, so they're they're being bottle fed at about six
thirty in the morning. They're wine and I mean they're ready. They want
to eat. They want to eat. And then during the day that's supplemented
with straw and a couple of treats. You can pet them, you can
walk them like a dog. And that's the reason for bottle bottle feeding is
to get them accustomed to people. People. And yeah, this began as
an advocation. Now it's a business. Is that correct, Yeah, it's
a full blown business, Straight Creek Cattle Company. Horn she will be,
she will be. You have to have the calves to sell. So she's
still building at her and she's become a real badass. I'll tell you what.
You see a woman handling a long horned cow, you know the ways,
six hundred pounds and the horns are already two and a half feet.
They'll get to five feet on each side, and she's a badass. She
wrestled them down. If they get a little I'll tell you what you try
and get one in a trailer or one of those shoots that so that you
can do a blood sample. It can get a little testy. I can
imagine you're like a ripped wheeler in the Rosa yellow Stone that's my favorite.
And you're like Rip Wheeler or John uh, probably closer to John. Yeah,
use you're a rip Wheeler. Do you have bet? I like to
see best Actually wife, if if rip Wheeler or a woman, that would
be my daughter. She has become quite the uh, quite quite the tough
kid helping mom raise cattle and seven dogs. No, I fix things,
okay, okay, I fixed the fans. I gotta I gotta moved up
the rolls of the handyman. I'm the handyman. Okay, breaks right,
I'm any animals do you have Let's see twenty head of cattle, about fifty
chickens, uh, six sheep that helped graze down all the weeds and poison
ivy and seven dogs. That's almost three or three of the dogs are Great
Pyrenees and their their sole purpose is to protect the calves and they do that's
that's what they do, and they do. So your house is like I
gotta come out a full blown farm, that's what. It's just not a
big one. It is kind of a fort. It's kind of like a
compound, SAgs, It's a compound, that's right. I have a thousand
foot driveway and I can touch the end of it with them if I need
to. Okay, the ground just gives out. You just disappear, that's
right. It's become quite a life change, that's and see, that's why
I have to come into the city, okay once in a while and be
here and hang out here and having an office. So your wife's taken of
this more than you thought she ever would. She did, she did.
Uh, it's quite quite amazing. I mean, you got to be committed
to do something like that, and it's a long term commitment along with homeschooling
the kids, which she's been doing for about five years now, and what
they're learning homeschooling with you know, two hours of chores a day, you
know, with the animals and all that chickens. I'll tell you what it's.
It's something else. They want to get out, They want to get
to graduate. They're perfectly happy. They're perfectly happy. Yeah, they just
weren't meant for the routine. They tried school. They tried public school,
okay, and it didn't exactly go the way it. Try something different,
try something different. And what a time to be homeschooling right now. Fantastic,
especially in your ponderosa. That's right, that's right. Say give me
some sports and making fast hard is making a state visit. Hold, hold,
talk about a job you have that's easy this summer and fun for crying
out loud with all the great news, the great sports. I don't have
to think about that for Everybody's the first place I know it's wonderful. Two
years ago, everybody, we're talking already a bad place. Will the manager?
Will the manager be gone at the at the All Star break or right
after the break? Or who's going to get traded in about two or three
weeks? And now it's like who are they going to add? And all
this stuff. It's unbelievable not to mention. Normally you'd be talking aboungals haven't
even started yet. But normally you you would be talking about what you're gonna
be what the teams are gonna be doing next year? Exactly? Yeah,
right, we got night. Yeah, that's right here, Milwaukee, you
got three Milwaukee four, the Giants, three the Snakes. Then is two
Milwaukee to Los Angeles Dodgers the next seventeen days. Uh, I go nine
and eight and be very happy with that lineup. I'll tell you what,
I'm looking forward to, some good well I want to go. It's gonna
be good stuff. And Bley is like he came here June sixth on D
Day. Since then, the Red Legs are twenty three and eight, which
is second and all of baseball. Only the Braves have a little bit better
record. They're the like, the second best team in baseball. I'm thinking,
what and you got Lionel Messi is coming here August to twenty third.
Messi is bigger than Taylor Swift? Am I right or wrong? Oh?
You're right, you're right. And look at I've never met the cowboy.
I would love to meet the Cowboys sometime. But talk about a guy that's
wet and his pants calling games. You can hear it. We got to
say at right there, there's one. I mean, I didn't know,
I know he wet his pants. That's what it sounds like. He's awfully
he's awfully happy and excited. The last few years. In the middle of
July, I sold out. My ballpark is sold out this weekend. Yeah,
he's got he's got a lilt in his voice. Oh it's good.
And if Bengal is gonna pay the packers in three weeks and then you got
FC they're undefeated, untied, unscored on and Messi is coming to sit in
a bar and otr. Can you see Lionel Messi with my good friend Ronaldo
having a schnops an otr? Would you believe that? Oh? I think
I'll take him to the opera. What do you think? I love the
opera and Southern too, absolutely love the opera. Well they the Stude Reports
a pro service of your local temp star he did to get their conditioning dealers.
Temps are quality you can feel in Cincinnati called Schmid Heating and Cooling five
one three five three one sixty nine. Can you name one opera? Just
give me one. What Phantom of the Opera? Is that an opera?
Good enough? Not bad? You're pretty good. It just popped in my
head. It's like everything else. How about swan Lake? Never heard of
it? How about the Nutcracker? That's not an opera, that's a play.
No, I didn't I that urology exam. I'm not sure what that
is, Bellieve. We also want to thank Ron's Roost Restaurant and bar,
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or have a place in Anderson or on the east side. Is that what
it was? Yeah, only a carry out location. And uh Tom Weedman
didn't give enough tax credits? Is that what it was? We're deck kidding.
I got a report from John Barrett that called in Nuncracker is an opera?
Oh it is okay. You should have known that the Reds twenty twenty
four schedule. Willie is already out. The twenty twenty four schedule is out
for the Red Legs. What you will give your speech opening day Thursday,
March twenty eighth, Great American Ballpark against Saint Louis the Washington Nationals. That's
good. The Cleveland Indians, the avaunted Ohio Cup is back the wait minute,
excuse me, scratch that. The Guardians come to town Great American Ballpark
two games June eleven and twelve. Also, Otani comes to the Queen City
with his Angels May twenty four, twenty five, and twenty six, like
the Royal Day weekend trout Otani, if he's not traded in the house,
don't you have any current news or sport was going to happen a year from
now? Come on, I didn't come down here to listen the road.
The road games include they're gonna play the Yankees over fourth or July weekend all
next year. Happy about that. College football Evan Prater out of Wyoming switching
positions or quarterback to wide receiver, good corny to coach Scott Sadderfield. Xavier
has announced their non conference schedule for twenty three twenty four. Muskies will open
the season against Robert Morris November six at the Sintas Center. They'll play news.
That's what I'm saying. This is what it is. What have you
been doing all day? Huh? You're not coming back here anymore? The
eleven days you're supposed to let him have it? Not men stay at game
regular season schedule, eight home contests, Skyline Chilly Crosstown shootout against those Bearcats
Center. What the data that Saturday December ninth, Let me get out my
calendar on my phone and the Cincinnati Bearcat's reports are they have added the Evansville
Purple Aces to their home non conference schedule Saturday, December thirtieth. Yet wait,
congratulations last night to FC Cincinnati winning last night two goals in the waning
moments. As you heard at the top of the Stude report that was Tommy
g on ESPN fifteen thirty good. How about some current sports. I need
something a lot going on, Reds and Reds and Brewers tomorrow night in the
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Jeep, Dodge and Ram. What about Messi. Messi's coming to town
in August? Can you leave Messi's gonna play soccer at t q L If
you say so, you don't you know who MESSI is. No, I'm
afraid I don't about That's okay. How about Christiana Ronaldo? Mike? What
about the boppy? I am about a Harry came about Caca? No,
I don't know any of them, but that's okay. I think gave your
dogs to them. Is that your dog's names? Uh? Caca? No?
No, oh, no, MESSI no making a mess with big About
a big Harry cow named Johnny? You got a Harry cow named Johnny,
big Harry highland named Johnny. Don't I tell a mother, don't deliver Johnny.
He's got some Johnnies home, john That's some Johnny's. So this is
a education for your for your boys, Oh yes, yes, for my
for my kids. How many eggs you can live alone in that farm?
Forever? Water? There? There's yeah, there's their fish whatever you know,
chickens playing egg guns, it's right, ducks, you know every all
of that kind of stuff. I gotta tell you. We have two of
the two of the females. The heifers are in standing what's called standing heat,
okay, And what that means is that while we're standing around most the
the other not only are the bulls trying to mount them, but the heifers
are trying to mount them as well. Act he got twenty four hours to
get for them to get impregnated, so dying thirty. The other night,
the Vet comes over. My wife had bought a couple of straws a bull
semen and it was frozen, and they bring over the cut They bring over
this container. Okay, and the Vet puts on a glove that goes up
above his elbows. He puts it all the way up the canal until to
pass the elbow, and then he slips the straw in while stretched out and
releases the semen into the into the cat. You know what, that was
not a vent. That was Mike Rowe of the Dirty Jobs. That's who
that was dirty. The Dirty Job Show came to you. Yeah ninety nine
half that half hers a halfer or mayor whatever. It's well to have.
Now we hope she. We hope it takes standing in heat like Sarah atanding
and heat. Yes, all right, Chip, thank you for your state
visit. Tomorrow one thirty, Justice Joe will be here. Say hello to
Joe for me. Well, we don't talk to him anymore. He's above
us. Okay, segment give me out of the sec He has to be
in the next studio. We can't even be in the bree studio with him.
Oh my goodness, Willie, an honor of chip Hart and a cow
and heat. We leave you with the immortal words of the student Report.
U NA will be the thirty second free standing have free thirty three thirty two
free standing members standing together to defend our people on our territory. That's our
leader. Take me to your leader. We're in trouble. I'm embarrassed.
Thank you. Give my best to Vicky. I will make a visit this
summer and say hello to Johnny will I will wait, I will make a
visit. I will. We'll save a straw for you to insert in one
of the heifers. Okay, save that kind. I gotta see Continue with
more Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WW Sports fans in Ohio. No,
that nothing beats, and it's about the One of the most horrible things
happening in the world today is the sexual exploitation of children. May the darkest,
deepest recesses of hell be reserved for those in that particular line of work.
And I think so much of that is happening now because of cross border
crossings of children. Many times the person being exploited must pay with body or
with labor in some sense or another, and it is disgusting. And I
had thought that ninety nine point nine nine percent of us understand this, But
there's a little bit of a pushback happening about maybe this is not real,
maybe it's a conspiracy theory. God knows what. But to Hailey McNamara is
the vice president of the National Center Sexual Exploitation. They've been doing this work
for about the last sixty years. Hailey McNamara, welcome, I think for
the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Haley. First of all,
what impact has this movie head on the awareness of individuals that are being
sexually exploited to the tune literally of millions around the world. But has this
movie been an impetus or has it always been there? You know, this
issue unfortunately has existed probably since the dawn of time. But it definitely is
sparking interest and awareness, which is always a really good thing. And I'm
heartened by the number of people who are seeing this movie and then saying they
want to learn more and they want to do something about it is the cross
border situation, not just in a mirror, but really all over the world,
especially in Europe and elsewhere. Is that an impetus for more children being
sexually abused because of what's happening on our southern border. Yes, unfortunately.
You know, sex traffickers and abusers of any kind will always target a vulnerable
population. And so we see that this happens, you know, internationally at
border crossings, but it also happens domestically in America as well, often online
grooming of children, and so yeah, so it definitely happens across borders,
but it also happens even within our own communities. Sometimes even children that go
to school and sleep in their own beds at night and their parents don't realize
that they're still being sexually exploited. It's in the suburbs. Can you explain,
First of all, give us a definition of sex traffic, and then
I want to talk about in the suburbs. If you're in Austin, Texas,
Cincinnati, Ohio, Chicago, it could be happening next door to in
your next department, next house. But what is sex trafficking. So,
sex trafficking is any kind of commercialized sex act that's induced by force or fraud
or coercion. People often think about force, maybe the movie Taken someone being
kidnapped and held in chains. Unfortunately, that can happen and does happen.
But one of the primary ways in America that sex trafficking is in force is
through psychological coercion, whether with children or adults. This can be grooming,
building a relationship, building trust, and slowly escalating abuse until it gets to
a point of sex trafficking. So yeah, So, like I said,
unfortunately this happens all across America, in small rural communities and in large cities
as well. Very often it's online grooming on places like Instagram or even video
games that are child centric, like roadblocks and other places, and so it's
something that everyone definitely needs to be aware of and engaged on. Haley mcmall,
Let's take us through a typical sarcumstance. All of them are outrageous.
Let's say there's a mother and two little girls, or a mother and a
boy and a girl making their way from El Salvador and they walk through Mexico.
How does the grooming, how does the process, how does the selling
of those children begin, So all of sex trafficking, all of the money
comes into this because of people who are willing to purchase someone for sex.
So that's the market that the sex traffickers are using. So they'll find someone
for vulnerability. So in the case of a border, it's might be someone
who's trying to cross and meets assistance and then they're told, you know that
this is that by allowing people to buy purchase them is a way that they'll
get a passage, or they might have a debt that is incurred and they're
told this is the way to work off their debt, or you know,
domestically, this might be a person who believes that they're in a romantic relationship
with the trafficker who says that, you know, by allowing someone to buy
them is the way to make money for them to maybe run away or what
have you. Of course, this is also such a big problem for homeless
youth as well, so there's always kind of an extortion based on a vulnerability.
But I think it's really important that we recognize that it's the sex buyers
who really are as a root cause of all sex trafficking. You know,
if people didn't buy sex and sex trafficking would disappear overnight, and as far
as the long term impact, if you're a seven, eight, nine,
ten year old girl or a boy, it happens to both genders, and
you find yourself trapped in this world, you look toward your mother or your
father for protection and for guidance. And when that wall of trust is broken
down because the mother or the father or the person you're with has said you
go with that man over there and do what he tells you to do,
how does how does a child process that? How does a child look at
that and say, a child doesn't even know I can get out of that?
But what impact does that have on the child's life immediately? Yeah,
the trauma is really i mean almost unmeasurable. So of course, you know,
trust, the ability to trust is greatly damage. Of course there's physical
damage and trauma and also psychological trauma. You know, severe mental health impacts
have been noted in survivors of sex trafficking, you know, leading to struggling
sometimes lifelong with depression or substance abuse issues as well, which is why you
know, really donating to or supporting volunteering with exit services and recovery services mental
health programs for survivors is so key because yes, it's it's just an untold
amount of trauma as we sit here now, do you have some number as
the number of children in the United States of America being sexually trafficked at this
point? Are we talking thousands, hundreds of thousands more? I would say
at least hundreds of thousands. You know, the numbers on these things are
really difficult because this is a crime that happens in the shadows, and most
of sex trafficking doesn't get reported. You know, sometimes we think that every
sex trafficking victim would identify themselves as such, but typically they are, you
know, in psychological chains and don't even recognize that they're being exploited while it's
happening. So it's it's very difficult to get a strong number. But we
do know that the majority, large percentage of youth online around a third or
a fourth, do experience some kind of sexual overtone from adults online, whether
that's sexualized comment, a direct message trying to initiate a relationship. Obviously,
not all of those are onboarding to sex trafficking, but we do see that
there's a large amount of grooming and potential abuse that contacting children online and for
some that could escalate to sex trafficking is what we've seen in Sound of Freedom,
the number one movie of this summer. That is that a real depiction
of what occurs. Yeah, Unfortunately, it's true that there are you know,
around the world, brothels and massage parlors and strip clubs where minors are
sexually exploited. I would say that in America that does happen. Absolutely it
does. But also, like I had said, a lot of it is
facilitated online, and even recording of child sexual abuse being uploaded to mainstream pornography
sites and social media is a real epidemic right now. So I would say
it looks somewhat different u in scale on internationally versus domestically, but the issue
is very much still the same and is really real if you're a mother,
a father, if you're an adult. Many times are antennants are not up
on this kind of an issue. I know airlines and flight attendants are watching
for this kind of stuff, but this is happening in suburbs, it's happening
next door, It's happening constantly. What are some of the cues are the
keys that someone who wants to help can actually observe and see definitely, So
I would say do some research on the signs of sex trafficking. This could
look a lot of different ways depending on your context, and there are national
hotlines that you can report any suspected signs of sex trafficking too, but especially
even for within your own community among children, especially if you see real changes
in behavior, maybe a kid suddenly acting out, a kid who's maybe scared
to go to sleep, or maybe regressing things like wedding the bed or there's
a number of different signs you can look for in children that you know in
your own life, and even just crushing your own gut. If something seems
off, it's good to ask questions and if there's a concern to report it
or contact additional support to assess the situation, and it's a really important thing
to do it happens. Also, I've done topics on this before where a
teenage boy or a girl gets into a situation with a trafficker that does not
know it's a trafficker when it's going on, and pictures are taken, are
shared and then extortion takes place. So if you live in a fine suburban
community, and you have a vulnerable child, a boy or a girl.
Explain the process of how traffickers get into the minds of children and then turn
them for profit. Absolutely, so, unfortunately, every child online is vulnerable
to these things. I think people will often assume, even thinking of their
own family as well, my child comes from a stable and loving family,
they will be fine. This is an issue for other people. But unfortunately,
with the Internet, every child is vulnerable. So and a predator might
reach out initiate a relationship. They might even be known to the victim,
or claim to go to their school, claim to be a friend of a
friend. So in the child's mind, they don't think to tell their parents
that they're talking to a stranger online. They think they're talking to someone that
they know. And then and then there really is a process of gaining that
child's trust, and very often, like you said, it will escalate to
asking for sexual images, and then those images can be used to extort either
for the creation of more images, sometimes more extreme, or to even meet
in real life for sexual abuse or sex trafficking. And this kind of dynamic
doesn't even only happen to children that happens to adults as well, and I'm
sure your listeners are familiar with the terms like revenge pornography or the non consensual
sharing of explicit images, which is often is to extore or keep someone in
an abusive relationship as well. So if you or someone that you know has
dealt with this, if they're a minor, I would recommend going to the
National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, and they have an entire program that
helps removed images of children online and to get you connected with law enforcements.
That's the National Center on Missing and Exploited Children. And if you're an adult
who's experienced your images being shared online, I would recommend the Cyber Civil Rights
Initiative, and they also have a lot of persons for how to get images
removed and how to involve law enforcement if needed. Haley mcmarrion in United States
of America, I think ninety nine point nine percent of us consider this to
be a representation of absolute evil. But there are some movements of groups who
contend that that a child, even a teenager, has the right to determine
to have sex with an adult. And we did that topic about ten years
ago, and I cut off in the middle. I said, that's it.
We're not going to do that anymore. And isn't there a movement or
an idea that if you're if you're a child, but that I mean seven,
eight, nine, ten years old or a teenager sixteen or seventeen,
you should have the right to have sex with an adult. Yeah, Unfortunately,
there is a real normalization of that concept that's happening, and so it's
really important for us all to be vocal and strong about recognizing that that is
child sexual abuse, and especially if there is the commercialized element. You know,
under federal law, any kind of commercialized sex act involving a minor is
by definition sex trafficking, even if that minor quote unquote agreed to it.
Right, So it's really important for us to know the laws on these matters
and to speak out against normalization of child sexual abuse. Well, in this
hit movie, of Course, the star Jim Cavezel plays a part of a
government employee who becomes enraged at what he sees observing. In certain parts of
the world, this is acceptable. For example, in Asia, Africa,
India, it is not that unusual for moms and dads to sell their children
am I correct about then, yeah, and unfortunately that's happening in America as
well of adults, even from them selling their children or allowing sexual abuse to
happen to their children. So this is, you know, this is a
worldwide epidemic, and it's something that's a really dark topic. So people often
feel like there's nothing that they can do, but there really is so much
that can be done. So of course, you know, we've talked about
investing in aftercare services, volunteering, knowing the signs yourself and being such an
important part. But we also have a campaign called the Dirty dozen List,
where we named twelve mainstream companies that contribute to sexual exploiting. And many of
those are online platforms that contribute to sex trafficking, such as Instagram, roblocks,
Twitter and others that people don't really realize there's grooming happening. There's facilitation
of advertisements for sex trafficking happening there. And if you go to dirty dozen
less dot com you can take action in really tangible ways. You can email
the executives at these companies, and we've seen progress happen. TikTok, for
example, has made it so that adult strangers cannot direct message miners anymore on
their platform. This is so common sense and there's much more progress that needs
to happen. But I would be I would want to encourage people that while
this is it's quite a dark issue, and it is an epidemic around the
world and within America as well, but there are steps that we can take
to try to prevent some of this harm from happening. And Handling McNamara,
you've been at this, your group has for about sixty years. But of
the sense things are getting worse, not getting better, is that fair?
I think that that's true, especially with the rise of the Internet. You
know, it's just made anyone who has an inclination to abuse another person have
easy access to vulnerable people. So I think that's why we really focus on
kind of mass scale prevention is what we want to enact. We will always
need exit services for people who've been victimized, but if we can prevent a
number of people, especially children, for being contacted by exploiters in the first
place, that can just prevent so much untold trauma. So that's a large
part of what our organizations working to do, both with corporate policy, legislation
and also litigation on behalf of Survivors. I'm looking at the headline of USA
Today the newspaper. It says why Sound of Freedom, Jim Caveasl's controversial child
sex trafficking film is a hit, and I don't think it's controversial. I
would hope we're divided politically among so many areas of life, but I would
hope that the exploitation of the most innocent among us is such an issue that
it's not controversial. It must be stopped. Those who are involved in it
must be stopped, and men and some women, mainly it's men involved in
this trade have got to stop buying children once again. Dirty dozenlist dot com
is out of sight, and what's another website? If someone suspects somehow the
child's being exploited for sexual purposes, I would go to the National Human Trafficking
Hotline, and there's a number you can text for calling. They also have
a website. All right, Hailey McNamara, Vice President, National Center of
Sexual Exportation of Children, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
I'm glad this movie is out. I would encourage everyone to see this movie.
It's one of those things you have to understand what's happening, and this
all around us constantly. We must act as one. And Haley McNamara once
again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and good luck
on all your ventures. Thank you, Haley, thank you. All right,
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one of the clogs in that wheel is going to be a core Xavier Basketball
and Sean Sean Miller, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Sean,
rather than talk about xs and os, I like to wax with you
philosophical. May I do that. I'm happy to be on go right ahead,
all right now. When I look at the nil issue, Xavier is
uniquely positioned in certain ways and not in great positions in other ways. I
spoke to a noted coach on the West Coast who you know, who told
me for some players, the bidding starts about a quarter of a million dollars
to get some McDonald all American talent, and it goes up from there.
And I would ask if Xavier, which is in the Big East, and
I think the best representative of Big East basketball is Zavier. You might want
to throw in Villanova, but Xavier and also Connecticut good representatives. Can Xavier
compete in an environment or some of the big ten ACC schools SEC schools are
paying literally hundreds of thousands of dollars. Can Xavier compete in that environment?
Yeah, Bill for sure. And you know, I think there's there's really
a rule of thumb for us in terms of our approach to recruiting, and
that is this. It's it's like a ninety ten rule. Ninety percent of
a young person's decision on whether they're gonna come and be a part of our
program here at Xavier or not. That ninety percent hasn't changed, Right,
they're gonna say we want to be a part of the small campus at Jesuit
School. You know, a program that's had America's number one graduation rate for
about thirty years. You know the city of Cincinnati where you have the best
of both worlds. You have the private setting right on the fringe of a
great city, a pro city, the big East cost, the style of
play, and I can keep on on and on. You know a head
coach who as a track record, etc. Wanting to be a part of
a program that's in the Ncuba tournament. That ninety percent has to be the
same. Then I think it's up to us as a as a program and
a university to recognize that there is a different ten percent and that is name,
image and likeness, And we have to have a plan, We have
to take it serious, and we have to be able to treat our players.
Right. If a young person, you know, isn't isn't kind of
wired to that ninety ten. So let's just say they're looking for the most
amount of money, we're not going to get them. And I would also
say that you know, this is young and new, this name, image
and likeness. We haven't seen multiple seasons of it already. But I think
a lot of the players that are going to make their decision for that reason,
I think their time at that university would be short, short lived.
And I'm not so sure that that's the you know, the fabric, the
culture, in the winning environment we want to create. So, you know,
the ninety ten, you know, there's always going to be players that
we can't get Bill, But I think as long as we keep dealing with
the family, he's the high school coaches, either travel team coaches, and
the young people that are really about that, I believe that the program we
have will allow us to be successful. I look at it this way.
Kolbe Jones pretty good player. I think it got eight million dollars to sign
in the NBA. David West came through Xavier. I think West played ten
to twelve years, had some NBA rings. Byron Larkin, I think he's
on my all time Xavier team along with Brian Grant played in the NBA and
also Tyrone Hill, Romaine Soto and so if you want to come to if
some player comes up to you and say, you know, Coach Miller,
I need an extra two hundred thousand dollars to go to Xavier. You're likely
to say this isn't the place for you. It's just not going to work.
But you actually the ninety ten that I talked about, right, you
actually explained it through your analogy, and that is if you make your college
decision for all the right factors. You know, the name, image and
likeness is just a small part of it. You know, really what you're
signing up for is the next twenty or thirty years of your life. And
if you get that the college decision right, like a lot of young people
have, you know, where they're going to make the most money and have
the best life is they're going to become a version of Kobe Jones and Kobe's
next ten twenty years. You know, that's really what you're signing up for,
right, the development while you're in college. And and Bill I would
say this, that's something that hasn't changed regardless of where you go, and
for whatever reason you chose that program. You have to develop. None of
these guys can do it alone, right, you know, part of going
to colleges you grow up, you learn to solve problems, you get an
education, you get bigger and stronger. You know, the sport did you
play? You know, you start to learn it and you start to become
smarter, and you grow with experience that none of that has changed. And
uh, and I think that getting the right reasons right allows you to have
the best life after college. And those are really the that's the audience we're
targeting. Sean Miller. I can recall you playing guard for Pittsburgh, the
Panthers obviously at the Cincinnati Gardens rooting against you like crazy. And at that
point, if somebody would have come up to you as a starting guard and
said, hey, we're gonna pay you fifteen or twenty thousand dollars to play
guard, you would have said, what are you talking about? Can you
imagine the way the world has changed. It used to be if some kid
got tattoos and exchanged for a basketball jersey, he was suspended. On the
other hand, now some kids are getting a hundred thousand dollars to play basketball
at Xavier. Could you have seen that change that and it happened rapidly?
What the hell happened at college basketball? Yeah? You know the way that
I look at it is no matter what industry you're in, including your own
industry that you have, It's just the world evolves and grows and changes and
adapts, and you have to be evolved and adapt with it. And look,
what once was is no longer. There's no doubt about it. It's
it's certainly a different feel, and everybody's trying to kind of get used to
it or strategize on how we all can be successful in the new world that
we're in. But one thing is it's just like no different than the phones
we have in our pockets. Like twenty years ago you barely talked on the
phone, didn't have a cell phone, and you imagine now living your life
no without bone that you currently owned. So I think that some of it
is, you know, recognizing that it's not just college basketball. It's changing.
Everything is changing, and it's up to us to adapt and evolve.
And you know, you ask me that question, that's our plan at Xavier,
and you know we're fortunate, Bill, and that you know on our
campus we don't have college football. I can't imagine dealing with both college football
and college basketball and name, image and likeness. I'm just the basketball coach
and you know, I think we try to take advantage of that as well.
Now you have seven or eight or nine kids. If you're a big
time football school, you might have fifty sixty football players. Then you got
the girls softball team. They want to be paid. And then you got
the baseball team. How can the LSU And there was a story that LSU
baseball cost a million dollars for a baseball pitcher at LSU. I'm thinking,
are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? And that I said,
and the answer is no. They're building the stadiums and at some point the
arms race has got to stop. I don't know where it ends, but
a kid that goes to the Xavier campus in this community, and you look
at what we got going on with soccer and football and basketball and baseball.
You look at the southern shores of Ohio, the great northern Kentucky. You
look a little bit to the west, you got in the end of the
Indianapolis five hundred. You look at the Kentucky Derby. You look at Ohio
State football or you see football. If that this is the place to be,
and I pray to God Sean Miller, you look nowhere else that I
was Xavier, the harbor, the deep blue waters of Xavier basketball, to
be the last place that you go to. You know what I'm saying,
Yeah, well, thank you. I appreciate you saying that. I'm I'm
I'm both grateful to be back and then really enjoying my time being back here.
And to your point, Bill, sometimes when you leave this area,
not until you're in a different area do you realize, you know, just
from a sports perspective, you know so much greatness and opportunity here. You're
right, I mean, if you just look in college basketball, and I
tried to explain this to people when I when I didn't live in Cincinnati.
You know, on a typical weekend in January, when you add up the
people that are going to be you know, at at a Kentucky game,
Louisville game, you see game Dayton Xavier, Indiana. If you add all
that up, I mean you start to get into you know, hundreds of
thousands of people at the same time watching college basketball, all within a couple
hour radius. And uh, it's it's something that you can take for and
something that I certainly won't take for granted moving forward. It's right to be
here involved in sports, and I'm thrilled to be back at Z Well.
I'm told you're a swifty and that one week and we had Taylor Swift concert.
We had one hundred and twenty five thousand, we had the Reds with
the Reds had about one hundred and twenty five thousand, TQL had twenty five
thousand. I'm told you had. You're on the front row of Taylor Swift
concert going nuts. Well, it's not true. I will tell you that
I went to the Cincinnati red game and you know I have I'm second cousins
with TJ. Friedl. I don't know if you knew that. So t
J. Friedel's grandfather who's passed away, was the brother of my grandmother who's
also passed away. Her name was was Freedl, and so yeah, I'm
related to him. And you know his story bills amazing and that he was
a walk on at Nevada and you think about leaving high school becoming a walk
on baseball player at Nevada and then here he is hitting leadoff for the Cincinnati
Reds and doing an amazing job. I mean, I don't know another analogy
that can show you where he would have been at eighteen years old and where
he is today in life. We're all very proud of him and U so
I watched the Reds closely. Oh, that guard from Pittsburgh did pretty well
too. But uh so the reports of you being a swift, it may
not be accurate. But there was a picture floating around at you in the
front row with a seed coin hat on. But maybe that maybe that wasn't
you. But Sean Miller, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show,
and with your permission, will do it again. Thank you, Sean.
Oh okay, thank you, thanks for having me on. God bless America.
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